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>>568300886i wish she would comand throw me around like an rag toy
>>568287720>they are boring, unoriginal tropes with zero appealPresentation matters. Those designs worked due to MOTW's vibe and overall aesthetics because they were designed with that mind, unlike in COTW which has a super generic presentation by comparison, it's obvious why their designs would be affected as well especially with some of those terrible 3D models.
Andy is... McDonald's manager
>>568305532>Those designs worked due to MOTW's vibeGame flopped even harder than SF3, which had the exact same problem. With the exception of a few, MOTW characters are generic and bad. People told all the copers that, but copers gonna cope. It has nothing to do with the models, cause if it did, KOF 14 and 15 has even worse ones, and people still showed interest in the characters. They're just bad. Nobody cares about chars like Kevin.
>>568305532I could say the same thing about Ninja Master's, yet that game is about as bad as MotW in that regard.Going from something as bombastic as either Real Bout series or closer to MotW release date Last Blade 2 to MotW is like a cold shower.
>>568306318>Nobody cares about chars like Kevin.Funnily enough, Kevin is pretty much the only one I like. He's still boring, but with him it is in a good way.
Grant isn't boring
Bought cotw few days ago Probably a skill issues but I can't for the live of my execution the kick super constantly does it have a different input window or something?
>>568285734>because capcom would be the one making itYou fags also shit on sf6 and call it trash. You’re just retards who don’t play games and prefer to whine like bitches.>>568287720It’s not a rare occurrence btw, it happened to so many old ips that were revived, which is why most companies now don’t listen to nostalgia fags.
>>568305532It flopped. It never was popular, that’s a recent internet thing because of basedfags into pixel art.
>>568310941What exactly is the problem here? Which character, which super, raw, or canceled combo...?
>>568315701Raw. Doing actually combo and mixing them with supers is something out of my skill level .I can execute punch supers if I wanted but kicks supers rarely works for me
>>568317273As for characters I'm certainly playing through EOST finished Rock ,Terry and b.jente and everyone of them I suffer from the same problem
>>568299781cool design for an evil yakuza character, but its lame robert.
>>568317626currently*
>>568314152>>568306318What does that have to do with anything? No shit it flopped it scrapped most legacy characters, came out when 2D was starting to be seen as outdated and Fatal Fury's popularity already waned by then. It still doesn't change my point that MOTW designs were made to be complemented by it's aesthetics.
How come she doesn't have any children in Cotw yet? Holy shit.Terry is gay. Oda is gay. Japan is gay and hates babies.
>>568317626From here it is hard to say you what's the problem.Do you use the "button hold" trick?
>>568323227Terry?
Have seen people say that the strange-looking intro and outro sequence in the Mr Karate trailer was made through a new mocap studio SNK has now. Is AOF4 gonna look like that then? That could be cool to be fair
https://youtu.be/0H-ebdYkULY?si=LnYoMI1FS1GaZNh4Karate breakdown
>>568323227The main characters must remain celibate.Even the Art of Fighting characters don't have any children and they are in their 50's now.South Town has become a Pride Parade.
>>568324798AOF3 was a rotoscoping experiment, using the fourth game as a mocap experiment wouldn't be a surprise.
>>568327805Dragon Step feels like it should be a universal mechanic imo
What's the excuse for SNK not doing alternate costumes despite majority of their fanbase asking for them since KOF 15? They can't be bothered to do them unless contractually-obligated to like with the Capcom crossover, or for "special" occasions like Kain. Capcom is able to make tons costumes just fine. They even have 3 for SNK's own characters, and for a character that's not even released yet. Fighting Games aren't even their main focus like it is for SNK, and SNK makes and focuses on literally one game every 4 years. Yet they can't be assed to do the one thing a lot of people are clamoring for, for the one game they have out. Guess they are too busy doing other things like making the menus in COTW look not like cheap power-point flash presentations 1 year after release, while some praise them like they've done something amazing.
>>568332621I want to grind my meat between Ingrid's thighs
>>568328659K'ek. Bravo Snk.
>>568328659The actual reason is they would need to make the children's a characters at some point
>>568332621The excuse is that they're just bad and dumb. The reason they supposedly can't even give Mai her classic costume is because her model is animated specifically for her new costume that has heels. Which I'm not really doubting is the reason since these are the same people that somehow managed to have Terry's MOTW costume have fucked-up/different frame data not just once, but somehow twice, in 2 different games. These guys are legit retarded, and can't do anything right except make acceptable-playing FGs. Capcom had the foresight to not give Mai's costume heels, because they're actually good devs, with actual talent, and who aren't 20 IQ. They'd probably be able to have her OG costume just fine even if they did give her heels anyway, since they're more talented and not bad like SNK.
>>568335184They even put the Ronaldo and that DJ in the game. Making a new character shouldn't be that hard.
>>568332621It must be something to do with how they model characters and clothes and shit, they've made it difficult for themselves to make costumes somehow.
>>568332621It's because you can't justify the sale of costumes for a game that barely anyone bought. It's that simple. No one is buying a copy for a costume, but people will buy for a character. People like >>568335497 will cry and moan about Mai's costume but at the end of the day, he still owns the game and so does anyone who cares enough to complain about it. >>568336918They do key frame clothing, like Rock's jacket, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have to. Which is why he got a Luke costume. They only plan to give alts to the characters who have a high usage rate or popularity.
>>568336918's what i saidthere are people who are professionals, they just know what the tools are and how to use them at the basic level to get things donethen there are the experts, in things like programming, iwata, carmack, they don't just know the tools and how they're used, they know the cool tricks and algorithms and when and when not to use them and how to tailor a solution to a specific case, how to get the most out of your tools, knowing that the hammer can be used for more than two thingsthings that you don't get by simply seeing the tools used in basic fashion, thinking outside the boxiow they programmed themselves into a corner and don't know how to do it any other way and yet, there are some people who think just because they have a job, that they know what they're doingyou only have to look at gamefreak to see an example of a company that didn't know what the fuck it was doing and claimed that it couldn't fit something in a game UNTIL HERO IWATA CAME ALONG and did their jobs for them like the warthog of philadelphia
>Literally just the AST versionhttps://x.com/i/status/2059273349994336588https://youtu.be/KD8lR4y69ogI thought you fags said they can't use them because of rights issues?
>>568341478pretty sure it was generally a question of why aren't they using them and wondering if it was rights issues
>>568339996All they have to do is make classic Mai slightly taller to rig her, no?
>>568341589There was a smartass here who would always say they're owned by Pony Canyon. I ain't forget.
>>568341743that's a hardwired fix>>568341876if that was said then rights can be transferred
>>568342025That was you wasn't it
>>568341478>first new character not from the leaked list back from near release of the game>doesn't get a new remix
>>568335184>>568335510Jan (playable) confirmed in AOF4
>>568341478So what will the excuse be now when they don't add more ASTs in the jukebox or future releases?
>>568342167https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/390332636/#390676176are you talking about this postwhy would i say all that
>>568341478The COTW one is a remake. Not the same as the AST.
>>568342601I want Cougar King
>>568342771It's the exact same composition. If they've managed to remake it so accurately somehow then that's impressive.
>>568335497>The excuse is that they're just bad and dumb.It's really this simple.
>>568339739>They do key frame clothing, like Rock's jacketThey haven't keyframed idle stance clothing since kof 14, anon. All the rest is Unreal Engine physics. I can't believe some people still don't know this lol. The only thing they (rightfully) keyframe now are things like Terry's jacket blowing after specials and supers. In XV, they did it for Kyo and others during supers only, not idle stances. And Capcom did the same in SF6.In fact, if last gen fg devs did both, and still had costumes, there's no excuse. I love the game, but they still need to do better.
>>568324798>made through a new mocap studio >Is AOF4 gonna look like that then?You do know mo-cop does not equate to graphics, right.
Photorealistic ChamCham
Harada.....
>>568351920He's talking about animations and camera work, I presume.
>>568353775Oda, hire this man.
>>568331701it's cool but it still functions as a QTE and most people hate that.
>>568331701It isn't that just dodge attack ?
>>568342601Jan could become the Shingo/Alice of Aof and make his moveset a mix of King and the kyokugenryu practitioners.
making children is just new characters that will take the moves of their parents, meaning they will have to be put aside or will lose interest in them because of a copy. But all this concludes into, will they be popular than their predecessor? usually it's always no. Rock will never be cooler than Geese, so was Hoktumaro. Playing it safe with characters that are already popular is a better choice.
>>568374406I will argue rock is decently popular but yeah I agree this is the main reason FG character usually have no children (Tekken is the exception because jin is arguably as popular as kazuya's)
>>568374406Rock isn't just Geese and Hokutomaru isn't just Andy.The only one that actually got it bad is Adelheid, and I don't even mean his name.Actual kids aside, who the fuck would ever pick Marco after Ryo will be back, if the latter will be given the same kind of love as Mr. Karate? You can make similar characters with some extra sauce, but I don't see it here.
>>568375990Jin actually proves my point, because they had to invent new movesets for him to bring Kazuya back.
>>568376083One of the reasons people hated Tekken 4 is Jin changing the moveset. They added Devil Jin with the old moveset for a reason.
>>568376036They still have some moves, and this does take away from the original character. Only exception is giving them an entire new style, but then you go into the issue of having to age up the original characters. it's just easier to add new characters that are mostly disconnected from the story.
>>568376462if I remember, he was in the end nerfed to the ground and changed some movements for later titles. Also he was was never a 1:1 copy of Jin from Tekken 3.
>>568376502No, it doesn't (or rather there are pros and cons). A character isn't just the function and even the function behaves differently depending on the properties. Characters doing moves, but remixing them in application got the appeal as well.Hell, we've been through this a thousand times already. A more punchy version of a character here, a more kicky version of a character there and can't forget a slower, but more powerful version as well as a parody of sorts.
>>568380953Or stronger and faster but die quickly version
Kula's kula
>>568383354BREEDBREEDBREEDBREEDBREED
https://youtu.be/63PIWEPQcNgOnce upon a time...
>>568324798>>568328782>>568355660>>568351920Funny thing we only seen mocap with ryo, yuri, haohmaru and nakoruru and we know they are making samsho and aof games.
>>568386815Really?
>>568393978no he's lying, they showed vids for Terry, Kyo, Iori.
>>568397418nta anon but I remember seeing mocap stuff for those characters too. It's all posted on one account so it should be easy to find if you have it.
games like SF6 are so different from their predecessors that people like Daigo are just brand loyalists at this point. The same of course would apply to cotw, but snk has no fans afterall.
>>568405768Would she be offended if someone fed her grilled chicken?
>>568341478This is exactly like Persona's music that zoomers love so much. if snk manages to produce the same quality and feel in their next games, they would have a banger album.
>>568406714It's a 30 years old piece though.
>>568406714>This is exactly like Persona's musicwhich personapersona 5 gives jamiroquai vibesa persona 4 track is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0yQsS7fb7ci don't think i would have thought of persona at first listen without being told, i would have probably thought of "ne!" from kof94 though that uses synth pads instead of an organ sounding instrument
Mr Karate in 30 minutes right? Or is that tomorrow?
>>568349162I'm just bullshitting. It does seem to be the AST.
>>568299781Is the Mr. Karate patch coming out in a few hours? When is it releasing?
>>568409314
>bug fix onlyWhen do we expect a kneecapping for Billy and Marco? After Kenshiro?
>>568406714Some people set it’s a rearrangement and I went with it. But it seems to be just the old track reused. Well it’s not hard to make the same type of music if they wanted to.
>>568408445At 0:40, it really feels similar to the track in whims of fate.
>>568416519>Bug fixes It a whole 8 gb Did they include FOTNS whole soundtrack or something?
Confirmed. They used the arranged music...You also can't have it on stream and videos??
I'm watching Go1 playing Mr KarateThe character is insane. Did he really need this special dash?https://www.twitch.tv/go1channel
>>568426370Yeah looks like they don't own the rights completely
>>568426370More retarded guidelines>You can't upload gameplay anymore without "adding your own element">You can't make mod videos>You can't make content that "undermines the game's world and story" whatever that means>Even if not listed above, SNK may tell you to remove your content if deemed inappropriate
>https://x.com/vryu123/status/2059551579229814934Does his EX DP brake have infinite juggle points?
>>568426591This is typical stuff lol
>>568426370Because they don't own the fucking rights to it, you morons
>>5684243748gb of Yuri's ass in Robert's story mode cutscenes
>>568426591How is it typical to ban mod videos and normal gameplay?
>>568431810>8gb of Yuri's ass
>>568432793meant for this cocksucker>>568428826
at least since it's snk, there won't be a lot of videos to overwhelm them in enforcing any of it
>>568432812FAT ASSES
>>568433985
>Mr. Karate calls Chunli "You big chink" whenever he throws a fireball
..............................................guys?
So much for keeping his face hidden
And animated trailerhttps://youtu.be/cZVLtaxwYVI?si=oMyRNVCowZN4LStJ
>>568439674I've seen this meme in porn, crazy stuff
How old is Yuri supposed to be?
>>568439674>Oda is gayMore news at eleven.
>>568439674No love for the jobber of Kyokugenryu that keeps letting the sign get stolen.
Not sure I like Robert animating and jerking around like his AOF 3 version. He looks weird as fuck lol. But when you realize they did it on purpose, you get used to it. Hey, I like Robert in all the games, but don't think I'll use this version. His stage and clothes are based, though.
>>568441936Dan Hibiki?!
I prefer playing Robert to Ryo in KOF so this isn't a complaint but it's still weird they went with Robert here over Ryo, unless they have something specific planned for Ryo
>>568446997It's the opposite for me, I never really cared about Robert, but his Mr. Karate version is definitely his best one. SNK cooked hard with him.
>>568450909Different strokes, eh? Glad he's in. His movelist is also very, very good, I'll give this version that. Better than any recent KOF version
>>568445683ROBERT WON
>>56844568345-ish.
>>568445683She has grown.
>>568453095ROBERT LOSES
The background glasses wearing karate student also has a name now. He's "Daniel" according to the credits, and the blonde girl is Sally.The bear is just called bear or "Kuma".
>>568445683This gives me hope to see Ryo finally being with King
>>568455441
>>568455441it's that girl
>>568445683I've cummed.
Game good, I'll pick.itmup when they add Mai's classic costume.
>>568456129Zamn!
>>568446239is he even married>>568443550finally, there's heat, a feud, and a purpose and villainry as an obstacle and a hero to supportan actual storypic related>>568445683finally, yuri gets a hint of her old rightful hairstyle back instead of that thinned short hair look
Now i hope they announce season 3 at evo, not just Kenshiro trailer/date.
>>568457449Already been datamined, there are at least two more seasons
>>568445683Dead mother hairstyle.
>>568457449I hope no more celebrities or other out of place crossover characters.
>>568457530I know about the datamining, that's why I just want them to show a bit of the season.
>>568455492>This gives me hope to see Ryo finally being with KingTakuma would sleep well knowing he's getting some grandkids at least.
>>568445683Cute but need to see if the business in the back is still intact
>>568443550Of course he'd have a Pagani.It's the car for rich people who want to show off.
I feel like with how much they're commissioning Obari to do these animated vids, they could just have him animated the main story of their next game, at least a mix of cutscenes and slideshows
>>568460727Back in the PS1, PS2 days was pretty common for games having anime cutscenes but today many Japanese developers say they are too expensive. Yet Obari is managing to make some good shorts between character releases. They really should put that expertise to a better use.
>>568306125Mainic Pixie Dream Girl
>>568460547I don't see why not; it's an important charm point.
>>568460727>>568461015Judging from how his recent anime is way gayer than anything he's made before, I'm convinced every animated bus that works with him is holding him back from going to his Angel Blade days.
>>568456129>recurring background npc waifuSoul
>>568457439>>568457340We already saw Yuri in Marco's ending and the new story they added is basically what you're bitching about. Play the game before you want people to take your opinions seriously.
>>568464331My post was about the NPC girl
>>568445683HOTShe also has a Pagani?
>>568465520Oops didn't mean to reply to you
>>568465819No prob
>>568443550It's that kid!
>>568466753Is this porn?
>>568467110a classic at that.
>>568455441Are they really going to copy tekken’s animal thing? Would be so lame.
A stripper, a bear and this kid.They really need to find more students.
>>568460727His artstyle sucks nobody wants him
>>568467495The bear has been around since MOTW
>>568468093Didn’t know. Hope it’s just a gag. I hate humanoid animals so much.
>>568467828Even if Obari isn't the best animator it's an improvement over Tonko's half-assed cutscene slideshows
>>568467538Can't believe they got an honest-to-god hentai artist to do this art
>>568467828retard
>>568469393That's because Tonko isn't an animator
>>568470449Getting an illustrator to do your cutscenes is a choice only a dev with no money makes
>>568445683>Obari designed a better older Yuri design than TonkoWhat was the point of even including her in Marco's ending?
Oh, hey Ryo
>>568406407She's a crane and birds eat other birds all the time so probably not.
1/2
2/2
Robert's Arcade Mode doesn't explain at all why he's Mr. Karate now. They're doing this "Takuma told me to find true Kyokugen strength" story but there's no reason for him to be hiding his identity. The original Mr. Karate identity was because Takuma was working for Mr. Big anonymously. Ryo using the identity in Wild Ambition is because he was a mysterious bonus bossHere it's just Robert. This legitimately makes zero sense and feels like an empty subversion of expectations
>>568475368Either Takuma told him to or Robert thought it would help in his quest. Or maybe they all like to take turns playing dressup.
>>568475368Imagine caring about the story from nu-snk oda
>>568475368Why wouldn't you dress like your father in-law?
>>568475368Mr. Karate is a symbol, Ryo is out of town, Robert is available to do the job. See, that wasn't hard.
Where are the children? Where is the next generation of Kyokugenryu?Give me proof they've reproduced even if it's only a background character!
>>568475368it's to conceal his identity as garcia foundation president. shareholders/board members/etc wouldn't want robert going around beating thugs up and getting into fights as the face of a multinational corporation. 'mr. karate' gives him plausible deniability.as has been said, the mr. karate 'mantle' doesn't mean much in the ff/aof continuity. it's just a disguise. robert gives out tengu masks to random people like they're candy in eost mode.
>>568476915>Give me proof they've reproducedYuri has the face of a satisfied pussy owner so they've been trying.
>>568475368I think you're just mad that they finally confirmed that Mr.Karate is an actual mantle unlike what you've been trying to prove last thread or so.
>>568469393>Tonko's half-assed cutscene slideshowsThat’s because TONKO only worked on some conceptual and promotional designs, while Hinano is the one responsible for the arcade and EOST artwork. If anything, you should be blaming Hinano, not Tonko, for the half-assed cutscenes.
>>568475368You have to wait for the Mrs Karate story mode for the rest of backstory
>>568477052>>568475368Apparently, is precisely that, so he can focus on finding the secret of Kyokugen and get ahead of Ryo for once. I'm more salty about Takuma explicitly entrusting the mask to Robert.
>>568457449kenshiro will likely be shown beforehand
>>568481045Robert is Takuma's son in law so he also has access to the family heirlooms.
>>568481045Signore Karate
exe order changed pl048 now ahead of pl039 and pl040, v302 folder was empty prior so it tracks, the latter two are releasing together going by the v303 folderpl017 (newcomer) moved back4 brand new ids (pl050-pl053) are inbetween pl016 and pl017pl042 now ahead of pl028 (alfred)ryo and kasumi are still among the last in the list
Does Robert Garcia speak Spanish?
>>568483067Interesting, if real. I don't really like Ryo, Robert, and Butt in the same 1 on 1 fighting game, but whatever.
>>568483067What does this all mean in the end? Anything new?
>billionaire Arabian petroleum jelly money>can't buy back own AST
>>568483843it means that it's a complete clusterfuck and that it isn't barely reliable anymoreall i can say about the upcoming content with 99% certainty is>kenshiro releases with two stages>rick strowd and duck king are the first season 3 characters>two characters after them in s3 release at the same time>alfred, kasumi and ryo are coming at some point
>>568483163Spanish is Italian with spelling mistakes.
>>568485429I feel stupid now... I thought he was of Mexican descent
>>568443550I think it's an interesting detail that Jeff told Terry about a fight between Robert and Geese.I mean, you can assume that they are talking about one that could've happened in AoF2, but I wouldn't rule out it being a tease for the new AoF game having Geese and Jeff.
>>568484137Oda hates KoF. More news at eleven.
>>568492505Pretty sure it's about AOF2 as seen by Robert's design in the flashback
There's a chance that Takuma used to make low budget commercials for the dojo.
>>568492505I was also thinking that with all the references to Jeff being drinking buddies with Robert, surely that means we will see Jeff in a potential new AoF game right? It could fit in the timeline right before Jeff got killed.
>>568493207>>568492505Well is either that or they will actually add Jeff to COTW sooner than later.
>>568485429Which Italian are you speaking of though? They speak a different language in nearly every region.Unless you mean the official one which is an artificial language based on one Dante Alighieri used when he was writing the Divine Comedy, in which case lol.
>>568483067a bit confused by some of this, like 'pl017 moved back'. what does the full list look like right now in order?rickduckpl048pl039pl040pl049what comes after them?
>>568493064Yeah, I thought about this, but it isn't like they couldn't reuse Robert's old design for AoF's return. It still holds up for what it is supposed to be and honestly, it might look better in 3D than in 2D. Would be better than reusing his Mexican vacation one. I'd joke about alternate costumes here, but certain professional complainers sucked all the fun out of those jokes already.>>568493520Pleasant Dream Jeff vs Nightmare Geese, LMAO
Witness the power of Kyokugen!
https://x.com/sorana_xxxx/status/2059245669227876466kek
>>568483781Ryo and Robert are extremely easy to differenciate and make them feel different. The problem is that Marco with his MotW-isms would feel extremely poor compared to either.
>>568293770>>568294074Looking at Steam chart in-game player counts, the high is centered around NA/SA time zones. Whether that's a result of SNK's effort to target the American audience -- or the just the IP's popularity with the American audience justifying SNK's effort to target it -- doesn't matter anymore.
>>568492505Am I misremembering KOF15's plot or is Jeff potentially alive in the KOF timeline now?
>>568494360>what comes after them?PL041 PL016 PL052 PL051 PL050 PL053 PL017 PL042 PL028 PL046 PL043 PL045 PL029 PL027 PL038 PL044originally PL017 was in front of PL016
>>568448763
>>568495825Marco is very slow desu
>>568497720>PL041 PL016 PL052 PL051 PL050 PL053 PL017 PL042 PL028 PL046 PL043 PL045 PL029 PL027 PL038 PL044thanks! anything else new/interesting besides this?
>>568456129I recognize Daniel from some Kyokugen dojo stage backgrounds and endings, but don’t recall ever seeing Sally before CotW.
>>568499781Why would you make that
I can't be the only one who find it extremely annoying that the majority of the white characters are blonde right?
>>568499347nothing that i found
>>568499781She actually originates all the way back to Fatal Fury 2 where she shows up in Terry's ending.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXWWa-MTJ9MThe manga adaptation gave her the name Media and had her as Terry's love interest, at least until Mary took that spot. Kinda random she's back after all this time but still cool.https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Garou_Densetsu:_Aratanaru_Tatakai
>>568496440You're misremembering KOF14's plot.There is something in Team China ending that could be read as an implication of him being resurrected via Verse shit, but it isn't conclusive.Personally, I hope that he'll return as a masked character there for whatever reason, like G Gundam's Schwarz Bruder or something.
>>568501906Funny, Terry's looking at her, like wtf a girl is doing at my table.
>>568483163Garcia is an italian surnameGarcía is a spanish surname
>>568501906>as Terry's love interestI miss when japanese media was BOLD
>>568432793Show me where they banned a mod video or replay channel, you dip shit.
>>568507954You think they made these guidelines for the fun of it? And how is it typical again?
>>568500436SNK used to be the only 2D Jap dev who had non-blonde White characters, like Brian Battler, Ralf, but even they gave into the anime trope. Not complaining, though. These are staple characters now. You can't make Geese have brown hair.
>>568511937>You can't make Geese have brown hair.
S3 will be awesome!
>>568481045>>568475368>>568477052I'm pretty sure Marco's ending hinted a situation where Ryo HAS to go and it looked like an emergency or something.what happened with that?
>>568513767Eh, it seemed to me like it could've been a leisure trip. The emergency part was that Robert and Yuri were busy as well and they needed someone to look after students.
>>568513767Looking at the Mr. Karate ending, Takuma directly or indirectly sent Ryo to Japan to train.Also, guys, something I noticed just now, look at >>568471407Is it just me, or Ryo got NGBC stance here?
>>568513767>>568514947He said he’s going to Japan, either it’s relates to Kasumi being present in COTW or it’s indeed for the World Grapple Tournament.
Isn’t it ironic that Gai Tendo was based on Hanma Baki, but it’s Tekken that had a guest character from the series.
>>568426370>>568341478They also used the arranged version of the aof theme from kof 96 in the animated trailer. I don't know the situation but snk hasn't used the arranged tracks since kof 13 so its an interesting development.
>>568513767Ryo is in South Town during the events of the game. He goes to Japan AFTER the KOF tournament has ended.
>>568516914I wouldn't trust DLC characters story to perfectly fit with the timeline.
You know, with the recent revelations one has to wonder if Robert was the one who introduced Andy to the Italian Pizza.
>>568300886
>>568301336That color doesn't look too bad on Shermie.
Can someone show me/us what's actually under the in-game model Mr. Karate mask? I wanna see.
Another weird soundtrack thing, the song they used in the character trailer is Ryo's Fatal Fury Special theme. Odd choicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwujOmoRowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0nExAcoXO8
>>568464331>the new story they added is basically what you're bitching about.bitching? what do you mean bitching you retardi was trying to toss praise in and you still take it in as bitching smdh you don't know what kind of shit you want from anyone else you giant dumptruck of dumb
>>568528543>Fatal Fury Special theme>of a Dream Match thing Art of Fighting character>kind of a variation of Ryuhaku's theme that was retconned into being Art of Fighting theme in general>Odd choiceBro?
>>568529906It's an odd choice because there is are two Fatal Fury Mr. Karate themes(wild ambition), and there are a half dozen Robert themes they could have used as well. Specifically picking Ryo's FFS theme is an odd choice, you'd think they'd save that for Ryo himself
>>568530319ryo better have a cool gameplay gimmick to separate him if he's even in this game
>>568530705He'll get some Buriki One-like moves (obviously remapped to be normal)
>>568531245will have to see how that plays out
>>568530705>>568531245Unfortunately I think you're right. Personally I'd love for him to be his Wild Ambition or Kof MI2 Mr. Karate self, but that's pretty much just a mix of Marco and this Robert. And what would be the point
I still think that making Robert, Mr Karate, is a shitty development but I really enjoyed the reveal that he and Jeff were friends
You’re just mad because you think he “stole” the mr.karare persona, but as other anons explained, it was always nothing but a gag not something special.
>>568538353he ain't sounding mad to me, he's just expressing what he wasn't fond of and you take it like this
>>568538353>it was always nothing but a gagIf it's a gag then trying to tell people to play SNK games might be the biggest joke of them all
Well the little buzz Mr Karate got was good for the few hours it lasted. Now all the attention is solely on Ingrid/Street Fighter 6. Unfortunate that SNK had to release an update for their game right before the update of most played and loved FG by a huge margin this gen. SNK will always be in everyone's, and most especially Capcom's shadow.
>>568542359I've been hearing more about Kunimitsu than Ingrid t.b.h.
>>568542359>SNK says they'll release a DLC character every month -- and end up doing that reliably at the same time for the next 5 months. >Capcom says nothing about Ingrid until a one month heads up. Besides the DLC dumping and rushing through Seasons 2-5, SNK is not in the wrong here. Next you'll complain about how close the next DLC characters are released to Avatar's and Tokon's release dates, LOL.
i forget what month evo usually takes place in but am i right in assuming after next month they'll probably take a 2-3 month break on releasing characters?
Speaking of SNK news, I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, but they doubled back the World Championship number of slots for KoF XV and SamSho (2019) after the complaints.
>>568542359>Now all the attention is solely on Ingrid/Street Fighter 6.Ingrid might have fucked Street Fighter forever with how hard they made her be a multi-universe goddess.
Is Mr. Karate the character with the highest damage without needing bars in the combo?
>>568512896Female Polnareff...
>>568556374or just Benimaru with fake boobs
>>568521181Nice
>>568545184>uses KOF15 and Samsho as placeholders, the main event is for Cotw>KOF15 finals receives all the attention and hype, to the point that people don't even remember who won the Cotw final>"Oh, no! We can't let that happen again!">Makes a stupid decision that generates a gratuitous backslash, only to undo it laterSNKAAAbros...
It feels like a cheap jap
>>568538353>it was always nothing but a gag not something specialStill coping I see.
>>568528691oooh he mad.
>>568542359>Ingrid takes SF6 to yet another all-time peak in playersCapGAWD/SF6 is literally unstoppable. There's no shortage of people ready to consoom it. How can SNK even hope to ever compare?
>>568542359No SF6 players care or play cotw you fags are retarded and obsessed with capcom.
>>568575327you ain't seen mad, woman
>>568581727What do you mean? We're just acknowledging how Capcom is the vastly superior company. I mean that goes for 98% of the FG devs now compared to SNK, really. But most especially Capcom. They're just on another level entirely.
>>568583017ohhhhh shit watch out
>>568585216yepso fix the bad wiring in your head if you aren't capable of telling the difference between bitching and praise
>>568584941Oh, shit! It's Robert from King of Fighters.
>>568542359>he thinks Capcom and SNK don't have an agreement to release things at certain times, and aren't aware of when the other will do it.
>>568512896In-game :). Women's Studies, Blue hair Andy is another one.
>>568599828Shermie thinks she is Ikari Warrior (ToT)
https://x.com/neogeostyles/status/2059893911095763055Nice
>>568497905I love that SNK plays with Dan lore
>>568583840You claimed that sf6 is taking players from cotw, which is factually wrong. Also im not an snk mark, yes capcom is superior, stop this childish behavior.
>>568516650Is Buriki One apart of the Fatal Fury timeline?
>>568611202Loosely. Ryo is there as Mr. Karate, Kaphwan and Joe were mentioned. But it got an inconsistency with Ryo's age as there (and in Wild Ambition IIRC) he's a decade younger than he should be.
Next COTW guests
>>568618365*Kof16
>>568609085Idk why but... this looks like some "goodbye" or "thanks for playing" product. >twf S3 was cancelled
nooo stop caring about KOFXV, love City of the Wolves instead we are trying so hard!!!
>>568627746To be fair, Wolves Destiny and what they've done with Mr. Karate actually made me interested in CotW again.Not sure for how long I'll stick with it though. KoFXV gameplay cadence and roster appeal to me more, not to mention the older games (and me not playing JUST fighting games).
SEXORURU
Ingrid...
>>568629441Sexoruru? Where? I don't see Rimu in your pic.
Learned to draw toons, lmao.
>>568528691>>568586610Hey retard you do realize that I was referring to you complaining about the story being heatless right? Wire your brain for basic reading comprehension first.
This guy explains what happens with Mr. Karate, Mr.Karate II, III and so on.What is canon and what is not.In 2 words:Takuma and Robert are the only canonically mr.karate.He uses the info of the games, not wikis.
>>568637503https://x.com/RaitoADV/status/2059808888241688941kinda forgot lol
>>568637503It will be really funny once Ryo comes out and they confirm he once wore the mask too
Have a bump
>>568631921>Hey retard you do realize that I was referring to you complaining about the story being heatless right?yeah the story is generally heatless and sauceless and that's not wrong outside of maybe krauser who is at least just a bad guy but that alone doesn't mean heatthis is significant enough to call it heat because there's a feud and there's a cry for an asswhooping, so you don't really understand heat like you think you dothat's the gayew booking mentality you have
let me explain heat btw for the uneducated which is like everybodywe can talk about the physics of heat and things like entropy and exchange of heat energy and thermal equilibriums and the like butheat when it comes to things like this is a measure of the reactions of the audience or emotional investment or engagement they have in what's taking placekrauser just wanting to show south town who's boss of this gym is not something that builds a lot of heat, it's just another generic motive, it doesn't give anyone the dire urgent feelings of "man i want to see someone beat the everliving fuck out of this guy"mr big finally shows us by picking on guys smaller than him and destroying their dojo, and it's extra because there's these kids around looking all hopeless and there's that want for someone to come get revenge on mr big for doing what he didthat's why they call mocking home sports teams "cheap heat", because it's low hanging fruit but it's also not that personal because anyone can do that and get away with that with some casual boosi can't believe i have to explain this and i can't believe i have to clarify why you're wrong and i was right the first time and still the last timesmdh reading comprehension at least learn of the terminology i'm using before contesting it
Didn’t read. Anyway I love Yuri’s butt.
good thing you weren't commenting on my shit in the first place then
They opened their merch store.https://www.neogeostyles.com/
>>568660724chances are the hat alone will sell faster than any of snk's modern games
>>568637503>the super spy ......huh?
>>568666594who needs ai as an enemy of art when this exists
Even though cotw flopped but the company is clearly expanding. It either pays off or makes them go bankrupt.
>>568668884>going bankrupt with an unlimited credit cardNow that's an achievement.
>>568670419Oh, look! Another NEVER EVER
>>568627746>26 years of just KOF>crying about 1 FF gameNobody's stopping you from playing KOF XV. It's still a new game, by modern standards. It's all SNK, anon. Calm down.
>>568627746What next street fighter fan complaining about a new final fight game ?
>>568669792The Saudi's will drop them just like The Line once they realise the game companies they've bought aren't meeting expectations.Then SNK can buy all its assets back and start anew again. Third time's the charm!
>>568679441They won’t buy themselves don’t fool yourself. Saudis either sell them to a Chinese company or auction their assets.
>>568679775It would be really funny if Mexicans bought SNK.
>>568474093>>568474889King is so lucky...
>>568679994>new kof every year againI'm not sure how I would react.
>>568679441Thirds ? I'm pretty it will be the fourth
>>568687259That would kill the series honestly
>>568679441>Then SNK can buy all its assets backwith what money
Robert... yamerooooo!https://x.com/KenshiroCL/status/2060336240453407016
>>568679994>all their games have shitty dragon ball z inspired stories with dbz inspired characters who wank their power levels and serious naruto uchiha personalities and leona/blue mary clones>insane combofest with cinematic dragon ball z supers to end each combo>they sell their games through subscriptions to their gaytreonjust like them with mugen
https://youtu.be/9zyXaUcxZ9cRoof saying he has 99% execution rate in KOF with every character besides Ash had me rolling. Sure big guy, sure. lmfao
>>568701638*throws you mid-roll*
>>568701638Idk why people watch that fat retard. Bad at games, just leeches his info from other sources. At least Max makes the attempt to come off as affable to normalfags
>>568679994Let them have a go, how bad could it be? Rage of the Dragons was by a Mexican dev right?
why I never play in the subway stage in ranked?
It probably have been said multiple times already, but why is their only one 2 lines stage? I don't think I even saw it once playing EOST
>>568727348because you don't understand 2 lane stage development
>>568694710With money that Oda stole from them. 4D chess, son (raughs)
>AoF characters>john, micky todo, sinclair>oh the interesting ones? They’re in kof and cotw!>new characters? Like fox and preecha lol?Dead on arrival.
>>568734805John and Mickey are cooler than people give them credit for.
>>568735729dunno about that, mickey be a fruit
>Street Fighter 6 update a day later Vs. COTW update a day laterYIKES
>>568736467Give 'im the slack. He's a young buck, straightens up a bit in the second game.
>>568736751>players see cotw and do a 360 and walk away
>>568736751sf has lost more people
>>568738987yeah it's easy to say that when there were people to lose in the first place
>>568736751360 players because Cotw is a Xbox 360 game lol
>>568738987After hitting a new player count record
>>568735729There’s literally nothing cool about them, and it’s factual not a matter of different opinions. Just imagine the reactions to John in modern graphics>lmfao is this temu wesker?
>>568740757What is temu in metric terms?
>>568741185
Andy is Nintendo fanboy
Why are old fighting games so much fun even without online? I would spend hours cheesing or doing challenges I created for myself like winning with only one move, but I would never do the same with modern games.
Now Kula's birthday is coming to an end. Let's remember when she was presented as a real adult.
>>568751520Because modern games are actually designed with combos in mind
>>568751520It must be fatigue due to the numerous changes for the worse and the direction fighting games are taking. Also, so many shit now, toxic talk, payed shills, woke bs...I think your brain just wants to go back to the times when you had more fun playing and less stress about FGs
>>568609085>Fatal Fury cap>Made by NEW ERAAWROOOOOO!!!
It's so fucking over.
>>568751520I can play older SNK arcade modes for hours but I can barely bring myself to do a COTW one whenever a new dlc drops
>>568754058Noo, stop lusting after Ingrid like she isn't a super cool eldritch being, you're making the main FGC guy sad...
>>568701638This guy gives off incel lonely vibes like no other FGCtard
>>568754332>max_playing_baiken.webm
>>568754532Remember when Baiken was a cool defensive character with a playstyle focused on counters and looked like Kenshin? Me neither.
>>568754058Athena at home.
>>568727348Just be glad you got 1. It's fun, but you can't even dash around your opponent when in the other lane.
>>568753348Tung pls
>>568758845>but you can't even dash around your opponent when in the other lane.that's bizarre, you can do that in rbs
>>568736751>an snk character owned by capcom stealing the light of an snk gameEverything surrounding this company is so funny
>>568762835it sounds like you're trying to suggest that snk should be getting such a spotlight just for it being snk
>>568763003it sounds like you're just making shit up as usual
>>568763804then why is it so funny, huh, because it's notthe fact that someone is saying it's an snk character is made upstealing the light of an snk game, also made up
>>568763934you're such a retarded moron
>>568764058lol k if that's all you gotcapcom always wins baby
>>568764137you're almost there. even failed cs grads can work their brains if they try juuuust a little you know
>>568764427>you're almost therewait oh i was apparently erping with you*asmr whispers* capcom always wins baby ksksksksksk
>rich gaijin rival and friend of a main character>has moves just like said main character in a gi>starts being more heavily varied with like more leg usageman i can't believe a capcom character owned by snk is stealing the spoahahahahahahahaha you can have this one
>>568764815ah. so all this time you complaining about "snkfags having homosexual fantasies" was just your own sad projection.i mean that's on par with you, but it's still pitying to see where all that passive anger was coming from.
>>568765502please please please sksksksksk
>>568765456lmao he's still going with his imaginary argument. trust me admitting that you've misinterpreted what i've said is less embrassing than whatever you're trying to do.
>>568765893>he's still going with his imaginary argumentyes he isbut as for me, i've nothing to admit that i haven't already expressed, and i would also suggest, stop hitting the bottle there too much because it's affecting your perception of things, because you can't possibly mean mai shiranui, because she's not owned by capcom, but given that they've adopted her and treated her better, she might as well be theirs, and ingrid, haha, i hope you don't mean herafterall, this thread does try to reach in support of snk, at least some remnants of it does compared to back then when it was a greater majority that i didn't supposedly run off already
oh god he really is deranged (and mad)
>>568766413and don't forget gay (and every woman)
>>568766590have it your way man, i can tell getting uppies on everyone in this thread means so much to you, even if it entails entirely distorting what the other is saying.you're pretty funny though.
>>568766753thx i win then
>>568766824I mean...sure!
>>568767065yay
So... Mr Karate good or nah?
>>568754058Hey buddy. You better stop that RIGHT NOW.
>>568768110>idk if im too wokeyes
>>568767698Good.
>>568780705Nice
>>568754168Basically this. I think long combos do play a part, but most importantly the reason is because old games had passion in them, while modern games are just corporate shit. It’s also why people gravitated towards Japanese games compared to western AAA shit. When you play old games you can tell what influenced the devs to add a certain character or stage, like a movie actor or a past trend, while today you look at preecha or fakhumram or kimberly and wonder wtf were they thinking?
complaining about combos in modern games is strange especially as long uninterpretable combo and infinite was a thing in every game at some point Modern games go out of their way to make sure it almost never happen
>>568790239>fakhumramThe worst possible example
>>568767698Too good
*saves SNK*
>>568790239>>568754168Arcade era>no loading whatsoever, from title screen to final boss>instant fights>every screen is designed to look as cool as possible>every transitional screen keeps your interest or sets the scene>special intros are short>individual stages>peak of 2D graphics after decades of progressCOTW/KOF arcade modes:>wait to load the title screen>wait to load menus>wait to load character select>wait to load character intro>wait to load first fight, and between every single fight.>every screen is designed to look as cheap as possible (cotw arcade doesn't even have a select screen, just a fucking menu);>every transitional screen is a blank screen with a loading symbol>special intros almost non-existent, or are too long, with bad camera angles.>almost has individual stages. KOF stages barely match the teams, and COTW leaves some chars out completely>3D has not peaked yet, and SNK graphics are mid-low tier compared to being AAA 90s It's just a different experience. Even if you switch from arcade, to PS1 and 2 arcade ports, you still get still like customizable # of rounds in the mode, health options, proper character select screens and stages that fit the character (looking at KOF XIV and XV here). COTW and SamSho are tied for the best Nu SNK arcade modes so far. With COTW having extra points for secret bosses.
Mr. Karate has ruined COTW. This character is retarded. Way too much conversion ability and too many options at all times. Bonus points to the mongoloid flying kick that sends him fullscreen over lows with a massive hitbox and combos into super.
>>568766332>she might as well be theirsNTA, but it's as I've said, you want capom games with snk characters, it's why your biggest wish in life is CVS2, exactly as max dood.
Krauser has ruined COTW. This character is retarded. Way too much conversion ability and too many options at all times. Bonus points to the mongoloid flying kick that sends him fullscreen over lows with a massive hitbox and combos into super.
>>568752356>>568751994This Kula is much better than the retarded one we currently have.
Tsugumi has saved COTW. This character is based. Way too much cumversion ability and too many openistions at all times. Bonus points to the ultrachad flying ass attack that sends her fullscreen over dicks with a massive titsbox and combos into sexo.
>>568689319"Interesting... very... interesting...."
>>568792426i know that he's influenced from baki characters, but I literally only knew when people said it, because he doesn't look the part nor act like one. it's like when suits try to do something being told kids will like it. or how nobody now likes collabs anymore because they're no longer genuine like a dev being obsessed with another piece of media and includes it in his game.
Mr.KARATE comic https://x.com/i/status/2060677751573766635
>>568796998Has any version of Mr Karate ever been weak? He probably will be nerfed but I assumed SNK wants the character to be high/top tier
>>568800028The "Mr. Karate was never a mantle" anon has been reaaaal quiet ever since he kept getting btfo'd day after another.
>>568795471>no loading whatsoever, from title screen to final bossAnd even when ports did have loading screens, they sometimes had neat art.
>>568797746>you want capom games with snk characters, it's why your biggest wish in life is CVS2no i don't, and cvs2 already exists, so there's no need to wish for its existencepeople will stick to a brand they think they trust even if it betrays them at times because it's a safer option than seeing a cheaply made temu alternative that they don't know if they will like and that's a consistent part of life
>>568797746>it's why your biggest wish in life is CVS2I will not be gaslit by you bums, CvS2 was not that good and this was a more common opinion to have back when people actually played itGames would last forever, half the cast felt like shit to use, it wasn't terrible but it's not some unsung masterpiece people now pretend it is, the Alpha games were the more fun Capcom games at the timeI literally just want a good KOF with good visuals and for it's newcomers to not be total ass
ya see, snk, here's the thingyou're looking for one ultimate reason why snk is failing to capture an audience when it's more than just one contributing factor, it's a synthesis of suchif you suppose reductionist reasons, you're gonna get reduced results, and you're gonna look for the next single reason to blame for failing, which this method only works if you're debugging something but not when you're running a business, because people aren't computer software
>>568790239Long dumb cumbos and the incredibly sluggish gameplay, I haven’t play cotw since the beta but when I did I launch mtow right after and the difference was night and day, in these newer games the characters feel like they are stuck in the mud, dumb floaty jumps and normals that hang around for too long like they wanted the game to be more whiff punish oriented and like a crapcom street fighter type of game, neutral looks mad boring with same set ups and cumbos and when it’s no that it’s a bunch of feints into 50/50.
>>568815481Yeah but that was when SNK had soul, and weren't the soulless husks that reside in the company now. All their good devs went to the other FG companies, most notably Capcom after the bankruptcy, and after they went to pachinko hell. It's why Terry and Mai are infinitely more cool in SF6 than they are in KOF 14, 15, and COTW. Things like pic-related is like shit old SNK would do. Ingrid has so much detail and care put into her. That's how you know there's some SNK DNA at Capcom. If only said DNA also manifested in how SF6 played, but you can't have everything, I guess.
>>568800028Cute!Imagine if it were... Tsugumi
>>568815481Never emulated Neo-Geo CD versions, can you configure the loading speed there?
>>568827394I completely agree with your point of view. Money + soulless mean nothing.
Meanwhile Oda's out here censoring designs and Hotaru's super
I fucking love watching my wife comment anything snk...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYCh26u0Dcw
>>568839931Cute wife, anon!
>>568299781I want to improve my Blue Mary, is there any good replays of her, in-depht video, general tips or data? Besides the obvious ones of course, like dreamcancel. Normal youtube search only give me first impressions that mean nothing at this point.
>>568837940Capcom only started doing this when SF6 got popular in Japan, to make it worth it ignoring the west. They’re still cowards, see how they censor the fuck out of RE.
>>568842651Yep. We must never forget Mika's butt slap.
>>568827394Mai in SF6 feels nothing like Mai and also everyone who actually plays the game hates her because she's so overtuned, she's just cornered the gooner market basically
I hope SamSho Souls is good but I feel like it'll be what bankrupts SNK for the fourth time instead lol
>>568844401You can't just say the actual shit going on, it has to be a fight about how much Capcom is better than SNK because this fucking general has a victim complex and ntr fetish
>>568815481Yep. Now, they don't wanna remind you it's a loading screen, so they keep it blank.
>>568825426That's the anti-zoning push that started in the late 2000s. Once again, it was the FGC that complained and complained about zoning, and stuff like chip KOs, so Cap and SNK started nerfing pushback on projectiles, making backdashes short and stiff, nerfing jump arcs, walkspeeds, and killing invincible meter-less reversals. It all makes the basic gameplay feel glued down, and like you can't get away or move around as freely. Then they started making meta all about 3 touches a round, and we have modern fighting games.I will say COTW has the bones of a classic, old school game, but movement and skill scenarios are nerfed to hell. Rev Block, safe on block Rev Blows, nerfed dashes and jumps, etc. It's very good, but just like everything else: very flawed.
>>568818993This x10. It was a jokey, broken side game. None of the SNK dudes playing it over FF, SS, or KOF. And none of the Marvel, SF guys played it over SFA3, which wasn't that good either. By 2001, the arcade departments of both companies were shadows of themselves, imo.
>>568815431I'm not that anon, but isn't this comic just double downs on that it isn't a formal mantle of Kyokugen, but a convinient alter-ego?
>>568849623That guy insisted that it has never been nothing more than a mask that hides Takuma's identity and went nowhere after. SNK also straight up calls it a mantle in the the steam description. What even is a "convenient alter-ego"?
>>568852521By mantle, I imagine an official honored position of some kind ceremonially inherited from one to the other. As in "pass the mantle". Takuma just gave Robert the mask to hide the face with and gave him the permission to use the same moniker as him. While it does certain hold meaning via their past, it is mostly utilitarian and doesn't hold any additional responsibility that Robert didn't have before.Though I guess if you approach it as loosely as it is used in capeshit, where you can have a bunch of Spidermen or Batmen running around at the same time you can call it a mantle.
snk should make a moba or hero shooter.
>>56885639310 years laterat least
>>568856393If you squint, For Honor and Naruto Shinobi Striker are hero shooters, so I guess it can work.
>>568856393errr, anyon? We already had a moba. Is there any private server up though?
>>568855298>official honored position of some kind ceremonially inherited from one to the other.Yes. That is what they call a mantle.
>>568852521>That guy insisted that it has never been nothing more than a mask that hides Takuma's identity and went nowhere after.That's... completely accurate, though? In canon, this is the first time that someone has donned a tengu mask in 30 years.And Takuma doesn't even give Robert his own tengu mask. He hands him a new mask with no history or meaning.In the comic, Takuma also literally says that Robert should hide his face because he's now a target as the head of the Garcia Foundation, which is exactly what anon said.
>>568845903Lucky Mika
New Metal Slug when?
'98 would be so fun if no one picked Chris. Seriously, what's the appeal of such character?
new visual improvements on snk grafics and models when
Kek they’re selling onions saucehttps://www.neogeostyles.com/view/item/000000000031?category_page_id=new-item
>>568880831For Geese?
mexicans actually love this guy, get him as a guest
>>568875057People like to win
>>568875057jump C+D enthusiasts
This Karate nigga gotta go
>>568897464Achievable natty depending on your lineage.
>>568878306>"RAM prices back to normal when"lol lmao
>>568901234snk be like "let me take 50 times more ram to do the same things other do"
>>568901318That what ever successful software company does
>>568901714well i guess snk is unfortunately facing capdrones clearly trying to sabotage their pure attempt at success, and it's totally not their own doing that's causing their own mess
Shermie!
Robert being Italian instead of Spanish makes him 10x cooler, those trivial details really do matter. Though unfortunately snk seems to have subtly retconned him into being spanish with how he acts and dresses as a stereotypical one.
Yuri aged like wine
I want a harem anime about Ryo.空手を習いたいんだけど、女の子たちが許してくれないんだ
>>568914032>potential GFs by lore: King and Kasumi>He has neitherRyo is gay.
Joe big cock
>>568914685More like big cuckand by Billy lol
>page 10Momoko saves neog!!
>>568844401Her gameplay is irrelevant. She has better animations, better visuals, a better model, cooler supers, and much more which matters a lot more to the majority. Same goes for Terry(besides the ugly face). They look cheap in comparison in their own game/games.
>>568915470Cutie
>>568926985Surface level shit matters more, yeah
snk is like that prostitute that's ugly af but her loyal renters will tell you that she's really good at fucking
>>568929598Definitely sounds like a SF6 prostitute, no matter the bitching, niggas still hit it either way and come back for seconds
Why is it that SNKfags always ask why people don't want to play the game but whenever they start getting honest answers that are shared by the majority, they start getting so personal over it? The replies are full of angry fanboys.
Thinnest man in Taiwan.
Stop wanting things. Stop asking for things. Like seriously, just stop. You should've learned this a long time ago.
>>568931875SF is able to attract more young people though.
>>568936790Of course it does 8 years since last game vs 25 Fucking years Very high production value and Marketing campaign on top the fact street fighter his always been the biggest fighting game series not named mortal kombat Don't forget that Capcom is arguably in their second golden age ever since RE7 released
>>568936790Zoomers don't give a fuck about Street Fighter 6 or fighting games in general. The only exception is Mortal Kombat, and even that is for 2 weeks at the most. The SF6 FGC is big fish, small pond syndrome. As soon as you start talking about real outside the FGC numbers, SF6's numbers look like shit.
>>568932676Only braindead fanboys won't admit it's graphics. Now, the game looks OK to me, and compared to nu SNK's previous games, it looks amazing. But objectively, we all know the truth.
>>568844401>so overtuned,That's every character in SF6. Game sucks.
>>568941114Was in their second golden age. MonHun Milds killed it and now Capcom has to try again like with RE9, Pragmata, Mega Man and Okami 2. I'm not sure why Ingrid is bringing in more players than usual, but they announced this is the last of the new World Tour content so now either Season passes will have more characters going forward or will have less effort. SF6 might be on its way out if they don't retain retention, the rest of the genre is doing worse than ever before despite the "higher" player numbers. This shit is not looking good>>568941281Why does nobody talk about this? Fighting games are so painfully niche and don't try to leave their pond. Then they ask why people generally don't play fighting games, let alone SNK games>>568941571SNK just needs to step out of fighting games and work on real shit people actually give a fuck about. A big problem is they're putting out cheap fighting games for a dwindling number of players that don't look as high quality as the competition. If they even polished their shit to look an ounce of as stylish as what ArcSys puts out, they don't even need "le realism" like Streets, MK or TekkenIt just feels like not just this fanbase but the FGC ignore the multiple elephants in the room despite there being no room for one elephant, let alone multiple
>>568941114>Don't forget that Capcom is arguably in their second golden age ever since RE7 releasedI'm sorry for you. I mean, yes, I know this is the most popular opinion right now but c'mon, they only release slop after slop.Unironically I think SF6 is if not their best game, their best tuned game since RE2 remake. Other games are just well packed excellent marketed soulless slop.
And what they do with SF6?.Milking it dry with pathetic CRAP for the World Tour, horrible colors, paying to change the UI, and the occasional decent costume.They're exploiting the players' goodwill in the most underhanded way possible, and the funniest thing is, it works! They control the narrative on social media.SNK doesn't need to learn how to make a complete product to sell (well, maybe they do), but above all, how to control their public image. It's not about putting ads on buses and the subway and paying for ads in WWE. Advertising these days is about controlling the narrative.
>>568944076It's easy to control the narrative when you have money behind your work and aren't purely incompetent retards like Bandai Namco who have never put an ounce of effort into making anything good or getting people's good will to fight for them. They just buy shit out and expect you to accept their slopMeanwhile Capcom makes real video games outside of fighting games. They make AAA stuff people actually want to play and watch and stream and are really good at selling ideas. They've never been good writers or designers, they've always been good at selling you an idea of something bigger than they are. Even back in their golden era all their shit was half-baked, crunched, barely finished and sometimes barely functional. Capcom is a B-Tier studio in the AAA landscape, you compare to Nintendo, Square Enix, Bandai Namco, Sega Sammy or hell even Konami and they're barely a speck all things consideredStreet Fighter itself is not a money maker. The way it's ran bleeds more money than it makes despite the "impressive" numbers. The reason it can be run this way is because they make money elsewhere that they can use to fund a project like this. It's the same way YouTube is ran. It's not a major success because everybody uses or plays it, it's a major success because it's allowed to be supported by other ventures and it's part of that narrative control you're talking about. Capcom can afford to burn money on a piece of shit like SF6 because it keeps attention on them, just like YouTube keeps attention on Google. When you have a "big, supported" product like that, people will ask why others can't do what the bigger developer is doing. And this just encourages smaller companies to try and develop compromised alternatives to this big product in hopes any users trickle downIf Capcom is succeeding so hard right now where are the other fighting games? Where's Darkstalkers? Mahvel? Cyberbots? Red Earth? It's because they're only succeeding enough keeping one game alive
>>568945457>fighting games? Where's Darkstalkers? Mahvel? Cyberbots? Red Earth? It's because they're only succeeding enough keeping one game alive.Or you know they learned that flooding the market is a retard idea that would lead to the games cannibalizing each other coupled with the fact games coast more and take longer to make
>>568946691Stop flooding the market with terrible games then. Put an ounce of effort into actually making them different and unique instead of just "here's Ryu as a Succubus"Imagine sitting on like 5 different IPs because "they won't sell as much as Street Fighter" and fans will defend these decisions because they think canned phrases like "flooding the market" is justification why we don't get shit. This is why Ingrid is going to put Morrigan in Street Fighter because we can't get a new Darkstalkers
>>568947219Morrigan has only been in crossovers and enhanced ports since 1997. Even if they never had a perceived genre bust it would be the same.
>>568949508Fighting games simply can't be live service games outside of the arcade setting because the barrier of entry is just too high to truly get into for most casuals to play more than a few hours at a time at best. SF6 broke records by being the first midwit game where players slightly better than casuals but worse than professionals can get constant wins. This is a demographic that has existed but never truly tapped into, which makes for the best diehard fanbaseBut the main point of contention about "flooding the market" is just the difference between how fighting games are perceived nowadays vs. back then>Game with minor and slight changes + updated roster whee the only difference is what quarter you put your machine into and if your arcade dealer wants to buy the new cabinet/game to begin withvs.>Needing to pay $60 up front for a game that might get better later + a minimum of $20 per year for the new content they addFighting games never truly escaped that arcade cabinet curiosity phase. They're no different than space shmups, rail shooters, Pac-Man or card game sims other than they've been attempted to be reinvented as live service games, where there's too much effort put into developing them for minimal gains compared to a Fortnite skin. Shit the Fortnite skin slop is part of the reason SF6 is so big, yet simultaneously it's shown to be as lazy as it is because it just makes people ask 'why is this not an actual character?'
Andy is thin
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>>568942481>A big problem is they're putting out cheap fighting games for a dwindling number of players that don't look as high quality as the competition.IIRC, MajinObama once said in a video that Japanese devs choose to make fighting games _because_ they are cheap and easy to make. But yes, the competition keeps upping the ante in graphics and QoL features. Just look at SNK playing catch-up with all the features that were added to CotW after one year.
I don't think the game looks bad I think it looks like a better MVC3
>>568958002MVC3 also came out over a decade ago.
How is that studio making the Avatar fighting game able to pull off decent looking 2D (it basically looks like the source material) while being a small studio? I don't actually think the wider audience would be that impressed by KOF being 2D regardless but SNK quite literally couldn't maintain it yet those guys can?
>>568962682That game was cancelled and revived by a nepo studio that wanted to fund the game being finished
>>568946691>cannibalizingIt's funny how nobody used that word in that way in the 90s.
>>568965603Yeah that how you get vampire hunter 2 and savior 2 at same time
*saves Cotw, Oda and SNK*
>>568966141Because they wanted to get rid of their CPS2 stock, only for that to not do well and the CPS3 is still doing poorly, they they make Alpha 3 and MVC to save face?
>>568966679f'real?
>>568966679For a true great guest character you need some that actually relevant and doesn't have much overlap with the existing cast And of course fit the series kiryu would have been an actual great pick but we already getting kenshiro so something like a puppet master would good or boxer
>>568969157>For a true great guest character you need some that actually relevant(raughs)
The lads.
>>568970490Did Wolf from Sekiro (everyone was going nuts about that game at the time) make too much sense for a SamSho guest for SNK to do it or something Or a Rurouni Kenshin or Gintama character Or a Ninja Gaiden character Anyone other than this literal who gacha character and For Honor guy (no one even played For Honor anymore by that point)Was neat how that game blatantly did so much better than SNK expected that they did several waves of unplanned DLC though to be fair
>you fail the DP>you say goodbye to your healthhttps://x.com/FGC_KTOP/status/2061072511161307173
>>568947219Exactly, so we get nothing but street fighter dix for ten years till people get tired and sick of the game I mean I got tired of that game In like two weeks and then I was hoping for cotw to be the game that I would actually be playing for now but surprised it’s another flavor of street fighter dix again with bland looking characters and backgrounds like if they were trying to make a fixed version of dix rather than their own game, I would ignore the mid graphics if at least it had lanes and ring outs rather than ex Mac juggles to oblivion, if you make fighting games exclusively for esports you are deemed to fail unless you are Capcom.
Here come the amateur game devs and pretend shareholders lol. Miserable general full of people who have never touched the games.
>>568979391So most people
>>568932676Graphics is just the logically acceptable criticism target. No one actually cares about them THAT much.People that say graphics is the reason why they aren't playing SNK games wouldn't play them even if they looked like Strive or 2XKO (which is a shit idea) or, let's say, Invincible VS (slightly better idea).They just want to justify why they aren't into SNK games despite them having most of the other things that they ask for and keep the FGC myth alive.It's same reason why Battlefield will never beat CoD or why any new strategy game from someone else than Blizzard won't attract StarCraft 2 players.
I know it must burn your soul that COTW is getting at least 12 more characters. :)
>>568981881>Only two more seasonsThat's still not 3 years of content
>>568941281>>568942481>Zoomers don't give a fuck about Street Fighter 6 or fighting games>Fighting games are so painfully niche and don't try to leave their pond.You’re only speaking about the west retards. SF6 in Japan is a big hit with vtubers playing it, and even an anime being made.
>>568983607Playing isn't watching. 90% of those zoomers (older than you realize, they're mid-20s now) are watching their waifus play the game, not play it
>>568980830Who the hell wants any other video game to look like "Invincible Vs"?
>>568981881I know it must burn your soul being an uneducated, unemployable shill paid pennies by Oda's pocket change to make it your entire personality to defend this game.
>>568945457>Street Fighter itself is not a money maker. The way it's ran bleeds more money than it makes despite the "impressive" numbers. How can you say something so retarded? Not only does it have a high playerbase, it also sells dlc like crazy, and their dlc aren’t cheap at all. You must be a complete delusional idiot to state sf6 doesn’t make money.Yes Capcom doesn’t rely on sf6, yes sf6 was made using RE money to make it look this good, but that’s called investment, that’s how sf6 is now able to make money unlike snk fighters
>>568985776>How can you say something so retarded>Proves my point
Lol being an snk mark is akin to a bitch coping about her cheating and denying it saying it’s her husband’s fault for this and that
>>568984942Dunno, but it looks decent enough for what it tries to be, the shills here are talking about how much better the game did than CotW and the general vibes in the discourse about it are fairly positive. If I misread the situation but the hype of it is true in spite of the visuals it still proves my point though.
I'd like to remind people that fighting games aren't a serious genre.The most successful fighting game series, Mortal Kombat, plays like shit and no one cares.
>>568989627>the shills here are talking about how much better the game did than CotWIt currently has a lower playercount and somehow died half the duration COTW did
>>568990380Aw, shucks. How could this happen despite NINJA DAGGER shilling his buddies?
>>568988058Next OP pls
>>568983925they must be "watching" on those steam player counts, unlike cotw for which they are truly playing, because snk only has players, like how gAyEW only has "wrestlers"
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>>568992506Real games have consistent 50k players and SF6 can only keep 70k during updates with female characters. Keep punching down on SNK for being a joke of a company, they are, but they're a joke of a company because of the retarded decision to stick to making cheap, crappy fighting games when most of the world just does not fucking care
SNK has legitimately responded to all the feedback they have gotten. They're even adding Mai's original costume to the game. I'm not so sure why some of you are constantly grumpy as fuck in this thread.
>>568992973>stephen
>>568993365why you do that so much?>well uhh snk is failing but ummm capcom is kinda also failing too if you umm look at the bigger picturelike you think that's gonna stop me or anyone else from shitting on snk? because noi'm still gonna do itgod help the person who tries to stop me
>>568993368Why dedicated haters keep on hating? Gee, I dunno.That said, I don't think that responding to feedback is the right choice, when most people don't even know what they want.Personally, I at least partially concur with >>568993365 that SNK nowadays got an unhealthy reliance on fighting games. I'm not saying that they shouldn't make them at all, but it is such a waste to focus only on them.
SNK just opened up a new studio, and has 26nor so open positions they are actively hiring for. On top of having best the support for it's current main fighting game in the genre.Seems to me they're in a great position.
>>568994201then reacting to our negative comments just comes off as an insecurity issue
>>568993526Because you clearly want the attention by replying to me in the first place. So I'm responding to your points with my points. My point is you're shitting on what's below the whale poop that is SF6. You point to numbers that are "impressive" but are never consistent or reach the true highs other live service games getSNK is bad because they focus on a niche genre and do it poorly compared to the rest of the industry. To go "yeah but SNK does it WORSE" is redundant when people want to keep bringing up how good "other game" has it (most of the time it's grass is greener shit anyway)
>>568994676>Because you clearly want the attention by replying to me in the first place.well duh i need them 0.02 capbuck deposits for all the (You)s on my posts thx btw>SNK is bad because they focus on a niche genreyou really think it's just the genre? i just got done explaining that it's a synthesis of many factors and yo'ure just doing what i said you guys tend to do when trying to figure out what the problem isit's not what the problem is, it's what the problems are, and it's not just the genre, but you can cling on to that and get back to me when they fail again and blame capcom or ronaldo again or whatever
>>568994341why would i care about "looking insecure" on an anonymous image board?
>>568995218i dunno, why would i care about attention on an anonymous image boardwell i guess it only counts when it's someone saying badspeak about snk, because snk can do no wrong *gets hypnotized into an snk dff*
>>568994943Because the reality is most studios are just relying on brand recognition or trying to ape off the current big thing instead of trying to do something truly unique in this God foresaken industry. When I say it's the genre, I say it's the big players all fundamentally not putting any effort into making it any better. Capcom rested on their laurels after a successful launch, so did Bamco. ArcSys does try, but they're a cheap ass studio that does a better job hiding they're a cheap ass studio by actually polishing their work and taking commissions like Tokon to fund their personal projects. Now here's why I say shitting on SNK doesn't accomplish anything. SNK is putting out:>A cheaper, worse-looking alternative to a big game the FGC is already playing that hardly has an identity of its own given its 3 most iconic characters are in other games>Has no current support for their older games people clearly like more than the current game they're desperately trying to push as their face>And these are the only 3 games they have put out in the last 7 YEARSThe genre is ass and SNK isn't helping at all, they're coasting. Yet unlike Capcom or Bamco who did have successful launches, SNK is bleeding money on a game no one plays to try and convince people to play it with impossible victory pots for anyone but the upper .1% to achieve, or I guess watch since people think vtubers sell games in this generalI'm not deflecting to the genre being a problem, I'm SAYING the genre has a lot of problems, especially currently, and only absolute buffoons think it's a viable focus in this day and age. If SNK wants to be seen as a AAA company or wants to make ANY money they need to allocate resources to shit people actually care about and do that well, (ergo good graphics/content/etc.) otherwise you become whipping boys like ArcSys, also only relevant in the FGC sphere and nowhere else. Meanwhile, if SF6 was a failure, Capcom wouldn't hurt in the slightest (as MonHun shows)
>>568996703>but they're a cheap ass studio that does a better job hiding they're a cheap ass studio by actually polishing their worka concept not unfounded in any situation, like you go a job interview, you play to your strengths and minimize your weaknesseswhy is that a strange concept if we're talking about this or that like it's the way things work? because that's one way that life worksand while agree that snk needs to spread out and stop just putting only fighting games out there, i'm not arguing that at all, i'm arguing that there are way more problems with them than just the genre that switching it up won't just fix, and i'm not sure if you're hearing what i'm saying because you're so focused on the topic of genre when i'm saying it's beside the pointlike i'm saying switching genres is fine, but there are also more pressing issues that they need to address first and foremost before they even try to tackle another big project, at least with the team they goti've had to work with too many people in several companies who didn't give a flying rats ass how well of a job they did as long as they did a job, checked off a box for the bare minimum, and got paid for it, and that to me seems to be a lot of those working at snk, workers rights, right hangma'am adam page? the same people, on that same token, who don't care to do an exceptional job, are the same kind to demand to speak to a manager at mcdonalds because they found a pickle in their hamburger that they didn't want, because people make mistakes at a job, but they're the ones lacking self-awarenessif you want a good job done, you have to expect that of yourself too, and snk has to expect that of themselves as well, especially if they're paid "decently"and they have too many rudimentary issues that need addressing but we're supposed to simply forget that for a genre switch
>>568941281Zoomers play SF6 in droves though? Most especially in Japan.
>>568996703>ArcSys does try, but they're a cheap ass studio that does a better job hiding they're a cheap ass studioAs a Technos fan, I'm offended by this statement.
>>568996703>And these are the only 3 games they have put out in the last 7 YEARSMetal Slug Tactics bros... we are forgotten...Yes, I know that they aren't the development studio for this one.
>>568993365>70k is not successful it’s a failure that doesn’t make moneyLmao even a cock in your brain won’t fix it
https://x.com/nkt_dreamer/status/2061296807259595212If he joins Harada here’s your confirmation they’re going to make a fighting game
Alice, Li Xiangfei, Tsugumi Sendo, and Kasumi are going to look great in COTW.
>>569005546You forgot Lily Kane.
>>568975565For honor currently see more player then all fighting game in in the market not named SF6
you can tell he's really from the region that plays that game when he used the wrong word for a comparison
>>568998656>Zoomers play SF6 in droves though?No, they don't. This is what real numbers look like. And this came out before SF6. If I picked a newer game, it's an even bigger gap.
this guy seriously thinkin that if snk made a pubg style game that snk would be making numbers too lol
>>569005546I would kill to have Alice in the game
>>569015258I'm honestly morbidly curious at how would CotW translate her moveset.I feel like it would either butcher it or take her to the new heights.
>>569010998Duh. The numbers won't be exactly the same, of course, but they will certainly be between 2k-4k players per day, which would be good. and also this would make million-dollar prizes make more sense, instead of seeming like money laundering.
>>569005546>>569006270>AliceNo>Li XiangfeiYes>Tsugumi SendoNo>KasumiNo (AOF4 yes)>Lily KaneNoBuy my game (raughs)
>>569015258Don't kill Oda, anon! Please, no! Definitely don't do it! I beg you, don't do it! Don't kill him! Anon, noooo.......oh, well. I tried.
>>568996703SNK is so stupid they still haven't learned that good graphics make up half the game. They're also stupid for not thinking strategically. If they really wanted to release a new Fatal Fury with those graphics and didn't want to cause negative reactions, they could have simply hired an indie company to use as a front. They "release" COTW, SNK is a publisher, and everyone accepts the graphics because they come from an indie studio. Boom, problem solved. Oda did his wet dream. Now it's time to focus on games with good graphics and different genres. Right?>Art of Fighting 4See? they are legitimately retarded.
>>569017646>good graphicsYawn.Call me when there when SNK will begin to spawncamp new fans in Roblox.
>>569010917Lmfao this dumb latinx doesn’t even know how relative success to cost works. I guess any successful game must sell like GTA or have 1 million peak otherwise it’s a flop. Snk marks really want to convince you sf6 is not much better than cotw.
>>569010998Kek literally the meme.>dud just copy the popular thing now
>>568932676Why do people always demand that SNK games have Arcsys style anime graphics when the games have never looked like that? On the other hand Street Fighter used to be anime as fuck in the 90's (Alpha/Zero especially), but no one ever asks why SF6, a game considered ugly as fuck by most people, doesn't have Arcsys style anime graphics instead?
>beat SS7 with nearly every character on hardest near launch>boot it up recently, getting wreckedI forgot how to play Samurai Shodown.
>>569018143>schizocope babble about SNK with no refutationsI accept your concession.
>>569021085First, accept the average person has no imagination or creativity. Hence everyone calling ArcSys' current style impossible in 3D...until it actually happened. Second, learn to recognize insincere memes, like when people called MotW their favorite fighting game. There were always hangers-on and liars before social media, but it has increased them by 1000%
>>569021085I don't get why people ask for it either (besides lacking braincells to understand that it's a bad idea), but to be completely fair, SNK games always looked anime, even if it's not the same style people most strongly associate the word anime with.Real Bout Special / 2 is fairly close to what you described as "anime as fuck"As a reminder, Iori in Arcana Blood looked incredebly soulless.
>>569021793SamSho Senven?
>>569018225If it's not a fighting game, SNK doesn't care about what's popular. If they did care, they would have already released a new Beast Buster to ride in the hype of Resident Evil games.
>>569021875What’s there to refute subhuman the game sold 6.36 million copies, has high player retention, continuous dlc support, it’s success is as obvious as the sun, but keep posting steamdb numbers of pubg and dota to cope that it failed.
>>569024270Saying beast buster as if the ip matters when they have to start from scratch making it virtually a new game with a name nobody recognize.
>>569024270>they would have already released a new Beast Busteryou cannot be for real at this pointthis has to be some kind of cris level post
>>568991790You will get the worst OP image next thread, as always.
>>569018143Big fish, small pond
>>569029448>he's still seething about SF6 so-called big numbers meaning jack shitPitiful. Move on, anon.
>>569044536This.
>>569029448>6 million copies soldAnon, Resident Evil 9 sold that in in a week
>>568992973Projecting won't make you any less broke and desperate.
>>569021085SNK games never looked like the ugly shit they put out now either.
Next stop.Hokuto Shinken is invincible!
>>569044862ye-yeah bu-b-but they o-only watch i-it, t-true players p-play cotw G-GOT'EM
>>569044862And? A success is still a success
>>569049518It's a success because it's relying on other actual real successes to be successes, which was the initial point in the first place people keep dodging. Fighting games are NOT the red carpet, they're a side attraction. A bonus. During Capcom's "Golden Age" in the 2010s they put out SFV, a certified flop that only got sales the more content they pumped into it + the actual, real games Capcom was making like RE7+8, Mega Man 11, DMC5 and ESPECIALLY MonHun Worlds+Rise. All this shit happened while SFV was on fireMeanwhile SF6, a success by fighting game standards, is still limping along and hasn't beaten SFV's lifetime sales and won't come close until Season 5. The only true victory SF6 has earned is higher consistent playerbases than literally any other fighting game, and that's a fraction of every other game people have been using to showcase this is big fish, small pond syndromeAnd DESPITE all this proven logic, SNK is focusing on fighting games exclusively
>>569018225and yeah, it's spot-on because of the fact that when i did this edit, i simply took some of the actual things people said in these threads, such as the f2p bullshit
https://x.com/itsveryyarmy/status/2061489049647407185
>>569044550>no refutationI accept your concession.
>>569044862SF6 didn’t cost as much as RE9 at all retard. Plus SF6 is GaaS the game sells dlcs and cosmetics. But yeah go on tell me COTW’s sales? Yeah right they’re hiding the numbers lol.
>>569064716>B-but what about CotW LOLYou keep doing this. You keep trying to pivot back to CotW's failure in this closeminded discussion of why it's so much more of a failure than SF6. SF6 isn't a failure, it's a minor success propped up by bigger successes around it. CotW is a minor failure in the grand scheme of the AAA market because it has absolutely nothing else to support it. No ongoing development of other games, no other game releases. It's literally all SNK has going on right now which makes it all the more apparent how much of a failure it isMeanwhile SF6 is trudging along because its competition doesn't exist. Tekken 8's fucking Director just announced he's quitting and ArcSys is focusing more on Tokon's release than any increased Strive support because that game's 5 years old. No future for GG given the anime was a flop. Meanwhile because of Saudi buying out EVO and people only pointing to player numbers, any other fighting game that comes out and isn't as immediately big as SF is deemed a flop because smaller studios can't support the Live Service structure as well as Capcom. French Bread has to release a brand new Melty Blood altogether rather than updating Type LuminaWhat the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you think fighting games MATTER this much when they really do not?
Didn’t read lol
>>569066345I mean obviously you can't
>>569065616>You keep doing this.considering how much you guys are all about "what about capcom/sfdix" that's rich
>>569069441I honestly couldn't care less about SF6, Bison was my last straw and Ingrid really confirms that I'm not going to enjoy the future of SF or Capcom. I'd rather be frustrated with SNK's incompetence than deal with something I already don't really care about to begin with since I do like SNK's IPs more to begin with. And I can say I don't care about SF6 because I don't actually own the game. I DO own SNK recent games (KOFXIV, SamSho, XV, CotW and even Heroines as a gift from a friend) but I didn't get S2 because I'm genuinely tired of what SNK is doing and have lost my patience with them. I'm here mostly for news and leaks, which never seem to happen anymore unlike during the KOFXV era. Probably due to SNK being THAT irrelevant. CotW can't get any YouTube content that aren't just boring ass unedited matches. There's no interest in this game beyond people who exist to shill it. I would have liked if that wasn't the case, but SNK didn't deserve anything more than this given how little effort and polish CotW hadThe internet has become retards that want to talk about things they don't like or low quality things they do like that are significantly less appealing than what came out in the past, yet won't talk about/play those past things because "they're old" and literally no other reason. The only things that matter are what's out right now. That's why nobody makes rooms or invites people to matches in this general because that requires playing an older game, and since nobody plays SNK's current game CotW, nobody wants to play ANYTHING
Lmao I know the ESL ain't talking about rent-free. He's in literally every single thread involving SNK doing nothing but seething about them. Even sits in this general 24/7 just to seethe about them instead of doing anything else with his time(enjoying/talking about something he likes). Peak mental-illness. I remember I was in some random thread on /v/ and seeing him somehow bringing up SNK to seethe. Knew it was him because it was the same pics he always used, post was typed in the same ESL format, and he used wrestling-references. I swear someone at SNK must have raped his mother in the favelas to get him this obsessed.
Stop fighting, bros! Let's talk about MY WIFE LEONA instead.
>>569072020No, she's too autistic to have a conversation about
>>569071330you don't even know how to use a hyphen and you're saying that
>>569072469conversation?
>>569072469>>569074526
>>569071304First time I've seen an SNK fan disliking Ingrid. She's basically just a KOF character.
*saves snk, cotw, oda, harada, neog, fgc, saudis*
>>569075648Honestly it's not the design I have a problem with or even the context of her being SF's goddess, I think the surface level is good. But that's the problem I have with SF6. The surface level is good, but the depth of the game is a fucking mess. All Ingrid tells me is that Capcom's going to get more "experimental" with SF to try and erode its identity further as if it had one to begin with. A multiversal space goddess that can retcon things like Bosch's death just means nothing matters, and it'll allow them to get away with those collab characters like Tifa or whatever else they feel like doing. Ingrid being the last story character means SF6 is done getting story content and anything else is just going to be adding characters for fan and function reasonsThis is the direction fighting games are trying to push for. It's capeshit stuff. Just like MK's multiverse or Tekken outright retconning things from the previous game. Because "nobody cares" this ends up destroying the value of other fighting games too. Why have a new Darkstalkers, Morrigan can just be added to SF without needing to make a new gameThen it goes back to my question: What's the point of fighting games being your source material when the fighting games that actually do well are crossovers and spinoffs like MVC, Smash, Melty Blood, DBFZ, etc. There's no need for Street Fighter to have unique lore because it'll do better once it's Ship of Theseused into Capcom vs. Then the rosters will erode to just the popular characters like it has now because there's no room for freaks and geeks. Ingrid is much bigger of a draw than Sodom or Necro, but she's a load-bearing character that'll mark the franchise's final shift going forwardDon't have any Ingrid pics saved so here's babyface Athena
>>569077261This loli athena is so hot. She would dethrone Ingrid if they redesigned her like this. I’m fairly confident as a weeb with more than 15 years experience.
>>569071330Kek
>>569078171People keep acting like bringing back her KOF XIII design would somehow make Athena popular again. It didn't work back then, and it certainly wouldn't work now when a large part of the Western audience loses its mind over anything that looks remotely loli. The truth is Athena peaked in the '90s. No redesign is bringing that popularity back. Ingrid's current popularity is a miracle that only a company like Capcom could pull off.
>>569079962Said miracle being putting effort into what you're making.
>>569079962Anon, Ingrid is literally no different than she's ever been outside of what >>569082025 said. This is the first time Ingrid's ever been included in a game that wasn't a budget title. Now people LOVE her because she has the presentation she deservesThis is the reason we have revisionists in these threads saying "the MotW cast was never good" despite half of them being in KOF at this point. Good presentation is what these characters need. I just wished it wasn't at the cost of their depth a lot of the time
>>569079962You’re contradicting yourself in your own post two times. First Ingrid is a loli, and has broken SF6’s player records. Being in fear of a few whiney posts in social media is the same reason oda is not including freaks or violence or lolis anymore, you think just like any retarded suit. Second Ingrid’s game Alpha also flopped and she was brought back to SF6 and succeeded.
>>569064383>NPC mimicry cause he still can't refute itYeah, you were gotten to. kek.
>>569079962KOF XII-XIII design was a mistake. This is a universal truth applicable to every single character in those two games.That said what you said is too defeatist. Idols are still popular and SNK characters actually can still get a share. What they were doing with KOF XIV wasn't wrong in principle, but they haven't found the right balance with their reinventions yet, their graphical fidelity was lacking and they stopped with their output too soon. Oh well, Tachi bou ke is nice, I guess.In an ideal world, SNK would use Saudi money to make a new Band of Fighters, with music albums, rhythm games, dating sims, live concerts, amusement """games""" and anime.Ingrid's popularity is noja loli idol moe appeal combined with Street Fighter reach.Imagine Athena in Smash. SNK not cashing in on Psycho Solider theme popularity is honesty baffling, but I guess by the time it happened they fell under a false impression that they are a fighting game company (LMAO).
>>569082647>This is the reason we have revisionists in these threads saying "the MotW cast was never good" despite half of them being in KOF at this point.I say this and I stay by this. They are for the most part boring in KoF or otherwise. Only one that actually improved my opinion is NGBC/KoFXI Hotaru, but it's less about the character herself and more about gameplay. Too bad she "gone back" in CotW.I'll take Falcoon OCs over them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNCJpU7wT8
>>569093650>Ingrid's peaks have already dropped back to 10k during peak American Off Work hoursBig Fish, Small Pond
>>569093650AAIIIIIIE COOKIE CUTTER SAMA I KNEEL
The general impression around Mr.karate Is outside of Drago Supremo he is mid tier And
>compares a $5 game to a $40 game with dlcsKek what a retard but keep going I know you’re fuming.
>>569096413and...?
>>569096703leave it to the autists in this general to take everything at face value
>>569096998The counter stance is overtoned
>>569005546I legit think all 4 of them will make it in. Lily will not
We need a boxer
>>569099497Don't worry, Rick will be in.
>>569096413Drago aside, he has good tools, does more damage than average characters and super sookoo ken is a great super with lots of uses. I don't know how good he is with frametraps, pressure and combination of moves to create the chance.There's also a 3rd super secret, but I've never used it.
>>569098234We had two seasons so far with 1 girl in each, if they continue like that, there’s only room for three girls, as the game is planned to have 5 seasons.
Now you remember that snk says Billy Kane surname is pronounced like Khan. What fucking retards.
>>569100673He was カーン since before you were born.
we need a puppeteer
While I'm not a fan of the character hokutomaru really lost a big chunk of his design appeal in cotw
>>569105326Hokuto's redesign being ass + him being meta is like a toxic concoction contributing to CotW being so unappealing
>>569117193The newest .exe leak suggests either more planned seasons now, making the total 6..somehow. Or more than 6 characters for some seasons, which would be possible if they do like the Chonshu/Chonrei like that bottom suggests.Could just be them being hopeful but that's how things are as of the Mr. Karate update. Hell originally they were gonna stop at 3.Kasumi is basically confirmed. Alice, Xiangfei, and Tsugumi would put in basically every Fatal Fury female, King and Yuri would be the only notable Art of Fighting girls that would be candidates. Plus there's at least 6-8 more guest characters coming if they do two a season.
>>569117362>>569100568I keep fucking up my posts so I'll just say that reply is supposed to be to this post, I'm going to bed lol
>we can only have new males on the roster>females? there weren't that many in the old games to begin with
>>569118290>New males: Vox, and 4 collab slop characters (Ronaldo, Salvatore, Ken and Kenshiro)>New females: Preecha and Chun-Li (also collab slop)The rest of the game have been veterans, unless you REALLY want to be anal and say Mr. Big and Mr. Karate Forma de Italia are newcomers too (ironically also technically crossover characters)
>>569118730>The rest of the game have been veteranswell hell hell, i'm glad we got veteran franz joining the roster from fatal fury the wolves of the kwab
>>569118869In what, Season 3? Hasn't been announced yetFranz is going to be the first actual fucking Fatal Fury newcomer since launch
>>569118973and then it just ...stops? k
>>569105326His original design appeal was rather questionable in the first place. Best you could describe him as is gag type of character, like Cheng or something. It's a rather questionable direction for the next generation of Shiranui-style ninja. Making him a young vigilante pseudo superhero is actually a pretty cool modern take, even if they need to work on refining that idea more.Perhaps they can put him on a team with May Lee in KoF, if they aren't going to make a ninja team of sorts?
>>569119071Point being if you want to be mad about the "lack of girls" it's not the previously established characters to blame, I just listed 5 completely non-Fatal Fury characters that take up a roster of about 28 characters (7 if you include the AOF characters). They wasted prime opportunity adding new whores for you to jack off to pander and advertise shit nobody cares aboutMaybe go ask SNK for new female characters, or don't because you likely hate Preecha anyway. You can always play KOFXV, a game that is known for having great female characters and has a roster right now with some of the best in the series (this is the actual game I recommend playing)
>>569118973Gaoh, kind of?
>>569119302>Point being if you want to be mad about the "lack of girls" it's not the previously established characters to blame*i* wasn't the one using that logic, i was actually mocking people who do as a response
>>569119373>Add new antagonist in Wolves' Destiny>He straight up isn't playable because his slot was taken by futball man, DJ man and Fist of the North Star manAwesome
>>569119434being bought by the saudis is snk's fault afterall, they had to have such a low market value that they were easily bought, shares sold off by displeased previous investors angry that their capital not only did not grow but it shrank
SF6>S1>Cut base roster characters>S2>Shitty filler characters and collabshit>S3>Interesting characters but they're all vets, with Ingrid being in a gray area of vet/newcomerT8>S1>Cut base roster characters, Heihachi and a shitty FF collab>S2>Mostly vets with a single newcomer>S3>Vets again and more collabshitCotW>S1>Cut base roster characters and collabshit>S2>Characters that also should have been base roster and more collabshitJudging by how """AAA""" devs operate fighting games, Franz might be the only newcomer in S3
>>569119965it's nice to know that snk likes to play follow the leader because they'll always be the pace car coming up from the tail end of things
PSYCHO BAAAALL
>>569129176Wrong Athena?
>>569119268Gag? Nah 70s ninja boy anime character is more like it
>>569130230like what, that's not even a typical feature, that's like "there's this uh 3obscure5u anime that has a ninja, made in the 70s"he comes off as the dumb brat from naruto and that came after, at least iirc since i don't think naruto was in the 90si don't keep up with 70s anime but not a lot of people do outside what, galaxy quest or w/e the fuck it was called with the train and starlord, and a bunch of gobot sentais
>>569130230>70sEh.No, I roughly get his archetype, but it doesn't matter much what's the origin, in MotW he's played almost strictly as a comic relief.Kinda like AoF Lee being usually played for laughs, rather than straight.
>>569130516There three that comes to my mind Manga Sarutobi SasukeSasuke (1968)Igano Kabamaru (especially this one for some reason)This the ones I know ofYou're probably thinking about Space Battleship Yamato or star blazer as it was localized
>>569132539>Manga Sarutobi Sasuke>Igano KabamaruThose two are pretty funny though.
>>569132539>Manga Sarutobi Sasuke>Sasuke (1968)>Igano Kabamaru (especially this one for some reason)never heard of any of them except for sasuke the naruto ninja>You're probably thinking about Space Battleship Yamato or star blazer as it was localizedlooked it up and was actually thinking of galaxy express 999 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgrQ5faJyLE
based.
hoktumaru was supposed to be a gag character as if mai and andy had a child but really didn't. Making him older is stupid and now he's just lame.
>>569137798I'm too old to be excited for a project that will take at the least 5 years to make. I would even quit gaming by then probably.
>>569138026He was also kind of like Naruto like right when Naruto blew up
>>569139546I agree his design especially the spike hair was clearly a homage.
>>569138130Ditto. I'm reaching a point where I'm simply going to "give up" on conventional games, stop watching trailers, events, imageboards, etc... and only play games that I create myself with AI, instead of waiting for companies to spend $200 million and take 7 years to deliver the game after the first announcement. That is, if the game isn't canceled 5 years later.
>>568299781Yuri as Mr. Karate when
>>569144295You should kill yourself while you're at it too.
Congratulations to /ourguy/
>>569146361Nah. I'm good. Just tired of all this shitposting from the gaming industry. But thanks for the advice, tranny.
Raiden waiting room
>>569146924Whether you like him or not but the fact that he has trolls that dedicated their lives to stalking him for more than 10 years is pretty crazy. They’re really gay as he says there’s no other explanation.
Wolfpackbros... not like this...
>>569075648>First time I've seen an SNK fan disliking Ingrid. She's basically just a KOF character.I'm a similar boat as >>569077261 but I'll also add that even stuff like Deadpool-esque 4th-wall breaking, being the source of Psycho Power (I'm pretty sure Dhalsim's fire comes from some Indian god, so some vague pantheon that's the source of several in-universe powers doesn't sound too weird), etc. doesn't actually bother me these days so much as the fact that the actual WRITING around her is s bizarrely autistic and outdated as all hell. I don't know which Capcom boomer has this much of an infatuation with this concept to the point of spending literally 25 years trying to trojan horse it into a complete game, all the shit about code holders and fonts and universal stuff and whatnot, but it sounds like really 3rd-rate visual novel type of writing that I genuinely cannot imagine actually creating a compelling story, much less even a functional one. There's no actual setup to this, there's certainly going to be no payoff, and between A Shadow Falls + World Tour any time Street Fighter tries to tell a story it's a giant clusterfuck that nobody actually likes, and that gives me a really bad omen for whatever they'll do for SF7 when the time comes. The most unfortunate part is that Ingrid is actually much more charismatic than ever when the writing is removed, but the full tonal clash is so goddamn jarring with how it literally feels like some kind of 2000's-era Fanfiction.net OC self-insert plotline that hasn't been altered a day since it's conception.
Ralf harassment!
>>569159187Big
>>569152339u-uh invincible vs btfo!! we're eating good snkfriends!!!
Ms.Garcia
>>568839931She's got a weird, hamster/squirrel-like face going on. Not saying she's ugly or anything, but just kinda weird in the face. Would say she's quite cute, actually.
>>569167838not even the hairstyle in the animated clipquestionable anatomy on the drawing too
>>569167838Yes.
awroooo
If SNK has a Murray he'd be constantly white-knighted by blue checkmarks and their dumb ESL followers
>>569146924
>>569146924Who cares?
>>569138026It wasn't as if Mai and Andy had a child though. By his old characterization roughly speaking he was to Mai what Momoko is to Kensou.>>569139546>>569143958Not really? Unless you guys mean Konohamaru, who is clearly from the same monkey ninja brat archetype.
kek
