>Discussed ServersClassic EraClassic Era HardcoreThe Burning Crusade Anniversary>UpcomingInfinite Classic>Previous Thread>>567457438
troll, undead, or blood elf for priest?
>>568417976Troll or UndeadBlood Elves are for homos
Times Change...
Skull Rock auction house is so fucking deadIs everyone playing solo-self found?
>>568417028>night elf paladinshahaha no
>>568417976troll priest is kinda kino
>>568417028It's annoying that we KNOW streamers/influencers got to play classic+ early so these stupid "leaks" will be popping up for months of kids larping as NDA breakers.
>>568423514>stupid "leaks">literally confirmed by one of the main insiders for WoW
>>568423730>main insiders for WoWMust not know very much since WoW hasn't had a major leak since Cata.
>>568424024Imagine missing the dracthyr leak and everyone screaming it had to be from another game
>>568424081Leaking shit less than a day before the reveal hardly constitutes being called a leak
>>568424182>It's not a leak unless I say soOkay, WoD then. But I'm sure you'll come up with some tranny delusion about how that doesn't count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q0f4KtEiZ8
>>568427157sovlkino
>>568427157>close up shots of npcs auto attacking each other is more hype than any other trailer WoW has made in the past several years
I made a toon a couple of days ago, any wowcg guild on Nightslayer?
Alex status?
>>568417028>MoP Classic so dead the OP doesn't even mention it
>>568428910its alexa now
any freshes?
>>568423426Retard
>>568417028>Horde paladin + allianc sshsman Into the trash it goes
>>568433410thiswe actually need more faction exclusive classes for classic+
>>568419972>tauren priestfucking hell
Ploos aint happening and it aint going to be your idea of ploos if it does happenThanks for reading
>>568434014proofs?
>>568431076that bikini should be red
One last Throne of Thunder..
>4 rough stone on the auction house>1 stack of copper on the auction housevolumes
>>568417028I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. There's nothing outrageous. Night Elf Paladins is retarded but could be hand waved away as Elune-based magic.
>>568460494Krvnvs?
>>568467435see >>568419758
>>568467154simply not happening. they wont add ne paladins because then theyll have to make unique mounts for them. they wont even add ne paladins to retail and we all know how much people love their mounts there
>>568417976Them designing the landscape of azhara into the symbol od the horde in cata is cringe as fuck
>>568468969This. Night Elf Paladins are quite literally the most requested race/class combo for decades in retail and they still haven't given it and are just saving it out of spite. There's absolutely no money in games right now and companies are crashing and burning and Microjeet is no exception.
If they won't put Night Elf paladins in retail they will never put them in classic. At the most you're gonna see the class/race combos added in Cata in Classic+
>>568468969>theyll have to make unique mounts for themWhy? Dwarf and Human share the same mount.
>>568468969Just add some effects to the current night elf mount. An intern could do it in a day.
Yes yes the leading game publishers and developers are spiteful, crashing and burning
>sod fresh balast
Alchemy or jewelcrafting? I already have eng Draenei shaman
Why does good loot drop for other people but not for me
>>568482514All the expertise leather and druid tokens dropped last week and i lost on all the rollsAnd you know most of the same stuff isnt going to drop again this weekIts ovyr, the retardins have won
>>568468969>take low poly night saber mount>recolor armor golden
>>568482514>>568486767retail fixed this>>568473778>>568487241the classic team couldnt even release a 20 year old expansion a couple of months ago correctly. do you really think they can accomplish a mount reskin?
>>568488189What are you talking about? TBC had an hour or two of launch issues due to the millions of people slamming the servers. By the end of the night it was fine.
cryboomer son or mazed daughter?
>>568417028>They don't admit that retail is fanfiction and also double down that it's the canon versionInto the trash it goes
Starting to feel the burnout from running a guild, should I just rugpull them? They can probably recover.
You now remember Sneedvun
>>568500557the guild will 100% die. that being said, you should try to delegate more responsibility to your officers to offset the burden. if youre stuck doing all the diplomacy, raid leading and human resources then its only a matter of time until you crash out
>>568500557Delegate more.
>>568471534>Night Elf Paladins are quite literally the most requested race/class combo for decades in retailwhy are they such faggotsjust what the hell man
>>568471534Undead Paladin is easily the most requested since Cata.
I know this is not canon but are Golbins spiritually Jewish?
I thought ploos was about something else, i guess everyone has their own idea of ploosMust be why it will never happen
IM LOSING ON ALL THE ROLLS
My level 1-13 experience in TBC Anniversary has been so much better than the two times my friend tried to get me into Retail.Just seeing other people walking around, grouping for random questing and shit, and autistically waving at every single person I see has been so much more engaging than current WoW.If they actually end up doing a Classic+ I might devote some serious time to it
We need a fresh asap
>>56851690995% jewish 5% weapons dealergnomes are similair
femgobos can save classic+ and the horde
After How many weeks months is it ok to leave an inactive guild
>>568517504bolumes!>>568517774retail fixed this
>>568526687did retail fix it again? i saw people complaining and saying they wanted personal loot back
>retail ruined this
>lvl 17 horde hunter with a ravager petis it really worth the effort to travel all the way to the draenei area?
>>568531092nobut i guess restedxp or wowhead said he has to do that
>>568531829oh good, seems like aids to get toill just stick with my wind serpent
>>568527986>the biller is bybooming
>>568482514God doesnt like your kind
>>568417028>Season of Goblins and GnomesI remember this in hearthstone
>>568551751weirdly i alsi remember that in hearthstone but i cant remember anything added in it except dr boom
>>568553176piloted shredderIt was Hearthstones first major expansion yet started it's downfall trend of adding bullshit rng cards.
>anniversary will die when vanilla returns>have to play vanilla>almost no classes and 1 button rotations>Warriors are fun but have to compete with 13 of them for lootMaybe I try PvP (priest or druid)
>>568555052no fun classes*
>>568468969>>568471534The end cap of Midnight leading into TLT, is probably going to have them opening paladin to all races, like they did with Warlock. Midnight is probably going to climax with all these forces of light converging on Xalataths final location/stronghold whatever
If they actually add goblins as a playable race what would the model be? The model they used on Turtle was just the vanilla npc goblins which were complete dog shit
>>568555483cata i guess. surely they don't put effort into new models
>>568555483Probably Cata goblin models. Those were on par with the vanilla race models for the most part until they all got updated in WoD and they didn't update the goblins/worgen for a long time after that
Lets humor the Classic+ idea for a minute, what actual class changes could they do? Aside from meme paladins and the hybrid tanks, what specs/classes actually would need adjusting or changes?
>>5685550521 nice thing about playing warlock(more so on alliance than horde) or druid is you get a lot of gear since the classes are pretty rare
>>568532707The only reasons the ravager is so strong is that it has the highest damage multiplier (not much higher than a cat or owl while leveling) and it can learn gore while having bite. Even then, it's not until you get the focus regen on crit talent that the pet really goes ham. It's only worth it to get the ravager early if you specifically want that skin, which some people do and it's a pain in the ass at cap to level a pet so why not hit it while you're leveling.No matter which pet, it will slap but I always preferred a pet with screech
>>568555052anniversary is going to die when wotlk rolls around again. You're basically plaiying seasonal servers with anything past vanilla
>>568557409People shit on people for using the meme bug but aside from a cat, you're basically gimping your damage if you do anything else.Wolves have an actually good buff but they can only learn bite
>>568557530Won't TBC just move to WOTLK?
>>568557082feels like feral is the only spec that can be fixed with minimal changes to vanilla gameplay
>>568557082>>568557954Hunters need several changes that are simple. One, give their pets scaling damage wise like they did on SoD. Hunter damage falls off a cliff because their pets don't scale and they constantly die to AOE. Second would be letting them use traps during combat Melee only hunter does not need to be a thing. You could reduce their dead zone to allow them to melee weave like TBC but melee hunter would just devolve into another duel wielding attack speed buff reliant mess
>>568558405true that is an easy improvement
>>568555052>>Warriors are fun but have to compete with 13 of them for lootif you play warrior you pretty much accept that your gear is coming from ranking not raids except for some ring some time maybe possibly every 4 months
>>568565642Or you swipe like all the other pvmpuers
>>568565642Is that true even for later tiers of raids?
>>568557082Warlock needs pet aoe immunity, pet scaling and moving ruin up one tier. Oh and hit talents.
>>568569243nobody is swiping in pumper raids because they are loot council>>568570174most aq40 tier pieces are better than rank gear and you got some individual drops like gloves from the last boss but most of your gear is from ranking with neck/rings/belt from mc bwl ony zg and trinkets are from pre raid dungeonsnaxx of course has straight upgrades to a lot of stuff but they went back to tank maxing the warrior tier gear so dps dont want those
>>568570174Unless you're the GM, his twink boyfriend or a biological woman (yeah right) you're pretty much fucked when it comes to warrior raid loot.>vis'kag and deathbringer never drop>half the raid has an SR on Crul, OSG, DFT and QSR>tier drops are borderline useless to you>most AQ40/WT raids won't take you unless you have at least some raid loot on youThe only upside is the fact that raids love stacking warriors and you're far more likely to get invited compared to a rogue or hunter.
>>568571880>soft reserveyou are playing in a clown guild bro
>>568572221How does LC make things better when you're 1 out of 15 brownoids competing for the same drops?
>>568573463All brownies are not the same.
>>568573463best performing brownies get looties of courseeven if you look at the top autismo guilds there is a very clear difference in the performance of their warriors
>>568573712Assuming we're talking about a fresh server and pre-AQ40 raiding, it sounds like you'd just get left in the dust by gold buyers >lionheart>titanics>edgies (assuming non-orc / human)>librams, enchants>BoE weapons>every consumable under the sunmeanwhile you're out there in blue gear with a dal'rend (if you're lucky)
>TBC anni comes out>maybe this time I'll finally be able to experience the end game>just approaching max level now>everyone in pugs require penis inspection to raid >Finding a guild worse and more slimy and fake than finding a job on linkdIn>Subreddit filled with elitists complaining about people not knowing mechanics and self-felating for multiboxingI feel like my continued enjoyment of this game is contingent on half the community having a massive coronary event
>>568571308>>568571880I never played in a minmax 70% warrior raiding guildDoes stacking undergeared warriors actually result in higher dps than a balanced raid team? Are world buffs really that good for warrior?
>>568574784The classic crowd is the worst, I remember quitting in 2019 because half the chat was twitch emote spam and everyone and their mother was buying gold (and even publicly defending in gchat).
>>568574874Absolutely, a hit-capped warrior with a decent pair of weapons is going to absolutely shit on all the other dps when it comes to single target damage.
>>568574874warrior scales to infinity with how rage works and healer mana is the only real limiting factor in the gameif mage had unlimited mana you could potentially use more of them but for the most part they exist to aoe certain packs since warrior has very limited aoe and before aq40 you have to be a frost shitterevery other dps class exists to bring a buff or a debuff to the raid
Maybe Classic isn't actually good
>>568577214better than retail
>>568577214It's still the only good MMO left, REALLY makes you think ...
>>568574575>titanics>BoE weaponsyou are not expected to get these even in the sweat guilds but everything else yeah maybe if you join late you buy boe weaponsin the early stages you have so many people trying to get dalrends you can just use thrash blade and mirahs song while getting all the non weapon gear from dungeonsyou are in blue gear pre aq40 and rank 12+ outside of a couple of pieces like chromatics and onslaught girdle/zg belt + av ring and ony neck anyways
>>568571880No one plays on era
>>568577612I'm not saying it's expected of you to have it, but someone that buys gold will have all the good stuff and he will do more dps than someone that can't afford to buy all of it.So when a big piece of loot drops who gets it, the guy on top of the meter or the 10 other shitters below him that are doing the same rotation but falling behind because they don't have krol blade's or whatever?
Why did Jahy leave us for psg?
>>568579149too impatient to wait for PLUS
sod, which is classic plus, released years ago
Wrong
>>568579114sure being top of the meters with your swiped gear looks good and can help with getting more gear but it also works the other way if someone swiped a viskag for their warrior in an ony pug but still gets constantly beaten by someone with dalrends thats not a good looklike i said the sweat guilds have loot council and pretty much mandatory minmaxing of their gear so everyone has the best possible stuff they can get within reason ie no titanics because of the autistic cost for tiny gain but lionheart is bis forever and is expected so using a libram on it is also not a wastemy guild atleast studied everyones logs autistically and looked at exactly what they were doing and with what gear so its not like the guy who got the first ony weapon then got all the gear after because he was top of the meter in basically every fight
>>568577214Nah, pre cata even with the AIDS community is still one of the best games of all time and worth playing
>>568582795You think gear helps you press your buttons better? As simple as fury warrior is, there's a massive gap between shit ones and great ones.
Is it normal as a ret pally to be DPS mogged by the entire party bar the healer? Really having trouble keeping up, I twist and weave judgements in there but I avoid using consecration and other shit even on trash because I don't wanna piss of the tank. Any tips?
>>568589741Paladin is probably the most comp reliant spec in the game. If you don't have WF, you're basically already losing 30% DPS.
>>568589502i have no idea how you drew that conclusion from my post
>>568590085>Posts about gear, gear, enchants, gear>"IDK how you drew a conclusion that I'm talking about how gear is the most important thing"
>>568590284i literally said that a dude with viskag not being higher on the meter than a guy with dalrends is not a good look
>>568590857>So when a big piece of loot drops who gets it, the guy on top of the meter or the 10 other shitters below him that are doing the same rotation but falling behind because they don't have krol blade's or whatever?
>>568589853Damn, I have yet to even group with an enhancement shammy. maybe that's what I roll next
>>568590990>so its not like the guy who got the first ony weapon then got all the gear after because he was top of the meterthat was literally in the same post
>>568579149its called FRESHalso xshe died on hc that was really embarrassing
>>568580135>that indirect seethe
>join some bwl pug>NO DISCORD, NO LOOT>get on voice>a woman is present and won't shut the fuck up
>>568595694just mute her, or mute all of discord in the sound settings
boredwhen is classic+
>>568598951you can play it right meow
>>568599138thats season of discovery cant you read
>>568599138NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE .... BECAUSE IT JUST DOESNT OK?!!!
>mop is classic because the bnet launcher says mop classic>sod is classic+ because it says... uhh because it just is okayuhoh...
>>568598951Only 107 sleeps until Classic+ announcement.
>>568600485im not going to make it brehs
i draw the conjuration circle and summon alexensual
If 2004 classic is vanilla, what flavor is classic+?
>>568611448cherry vanilla
>>568600358oh so now mop is classic
>>568612058i dont know is sod classic+
>>568612190yes. its adding stuff to vanilla while keeping the game capped at lvl 60 which is the general idea of classic plus
>>568557656Yes but wrath is aids so it'll crater again
>>568615215>>568615215lol?wrath is the most popular version of the game
>>568616694>>568616694And it cratered because it's boring as fuck
wrath classic was beyond misery. i never want to set foot in northrend ever again
>>568612614som did it better T_T
brehs... i think the sun is setting on world of warcraft
>>568618870>midnight was a total flop>private servers are in ruin>classic is seems deadits not looking good, although HC is randomly popping off on Doomhowl so im doing that
>>568618870What are the chances that a standalone Classic WoW client becomes available if Blizzard gets shuttered? The SPP relies on having the official WoW client installed from Battle.net, as far as I know
>>568557082None of them. There is absolutely no need to speedrun raids. This is a playerbase issue, not classic balance issue. People are retarded voluntarily
>>568619209desu since you get a free transfer to era if you die there is no reason to lvl on era instead of hc. hc has more lvling activity>>568624780no idea. i wouldve thought they already had something like that
they're saying classic is finished with mop so whats gonna happen to my moppie toon?
>>568625515People are retarded but it isn't stupid to want balanced classes. I'm not talking about with one percent autismo balance but within five-ten percent or so.
>>568625515blizzard at the very least needs to adjust the mob values or the set timers on boss mechanics. even with completely retarded groups ive never seen moam do anything because it dies too fast
the biller must boom. it is natural law.
>>568627181either getting sent to retail or sent to turtle
I get my warrior to level 35 completely unmolested and then in the space of an hour 3 different hunters jump me while i'm below half hp
>>568526416???
>>5685264163 days seems fair
>>568629005was it in desolace
is economic warfare considered griefing? if I go to tirisfal glades on a pve server and mine all the copper so starting undead can't get it, does that make me in violation of the social contract?
>>568557082As lord Nixiom wisely pointed out in his many machinima videos, the entire point of classic is the vibes of classic, that is the community of classic, which includes the memes of classic, which means the classes of classic, so the classical classes of classes are classified according to the concept of how the community perceives them, and this shall not be infringed or else it is no longer fucking classicthat means: paladins LOL get shit on fuck you cunt this is a warrior game!
>namedropping randoms like we're just suppose to know who they are
>want to dps>know that paladins do not dps>make one anywayAAAHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK I CANT DPS SAVE ME AGGREND
paladins can't tank and can barely heal toothey're supposed to suckninjalooting from paladins is the morally right thing to dothe community will thank you for keeping the Spirit of classic alive by shitting on paladin cucks
>enter thread>shitskin seething about paladins again
>>568635191Paladin players would know best the shortcomings of their own class, so kind of a weird point
>>568635696paladin players are too stupid to know anything, they're mouthbreathing droolersit's up to the rest of us to know that they deserve nothing but scorn, forever
>>568632595its only illegal if you piss off the bot cartel
>>568636332paladins give me blessing of kings i love that
>>568635191shitskins are the ones playing paladin, thoughever
crazy thing is most paladin players go warrior in vanilla
>hurr paladin gave me a blessing of cucks>it's ok that he contributed 5% of a player that plays an actual class, because he made me 10% strongerthis is why the horde will always be superior: volkism favstian vertical solidarity racism strength nietszchean overman spirit of classic
uh oh noshoe meltieyour windfury didn't hit as hard as you would have liked against that plate armor, huh?
Ele shaman at 68. Anyone recommend a set up for learning healing? Im thinking some kind of party bars addon and clique is there a generally accepted best option? Figure its about time to start attunements and all that. Is there an addon/guide to doing all the quests for gold or do I have to level a mage/pala and do some weird aoe bullshit to farm enough gold to get flying and prep for wrath.Current plan for gearing is yolo5s for weapon and IDK I guess buy a cheap set of sorcerer/invoker gear to quest as ele?Someone help a retard out, want to relive my wrathbaby days and tryhard prep for that.
>>568634553You can clear raids with priests auto attacking the bisse down. Is fast? No. Is it meta? Will the boss die and do you get oot? Yes. Players do this meta shit To themselves
>>568643313you can play however you like but if you get pissy because nobody wants to join your meme raid then thats on you
>>568643313this is such a retarded argument. you can reach your destination by crawling on your hands and knees but you dont do that shit because its retarded when you can drive, take a plane or even walk.
>>568644162>why is nobody else walking across the country and taking a plane instead fucking autistic minmaxers ruin it for the rest of us
>>568643313We used to run with a ret pally or 2 in classic and same on anni, but they understood they were basically last in line for any loot that went to the proper specs first
>>568643313Classic players love the game so much, they do everything in their power to make sure they spend as little time playing the game as possible. It doesn't matter if we clear the content, we have to do it fast, I have stuff to do (I don't)
i dont even understand why you would want to raid as ret you do nothing like actually you might get 10 autos off and youd still have to dispell. people wont notice youre healing in the wrong spec(we have dual spec now anyways) and you can get the same items simply by saying its for pvp or farming
>>568645182You either do nothing but auto or you do nothing but cast the occasional holy light. Rogues are only allowed to press 2 buttons and keep up an attack speed buff. Poisons are not allowed. Hunters are only allowed to cast aimed/auto shot. NO DEBUFFS. You're messing up the warriors/locks dots!Majority of Vanilla is basic white attacks and empowered basics.
>>568645169i need to clear this naxx as fast as possible so i can clear my 2nd naxx and go world tour
>>568645540yeahits amazing raiding became the main focus of this game
>>568645885It's more how min max raiding has become as gay as it is. A slow raid full of meme specs and classes would actually be refreshing, rather than a mostly brown raid frame where everyone is in full world buffs and the debuffs are kept to a spread sheet
>>568646136they should simply remove the debuff limit
>>568645182the desire for browns to feel white is just that strong
you're all missing the pointsomeone has to be the losersomeone has to be the designated shitter penguinif hybrid classes and especially paladins weren't the shitter class, if you could do high damage on a huntard or rogue, what would be the achievement of being a warrior gigachad worth? nothing. it would be just another class doing damage.the entire class fantasy of the warrior is to be the one true king, the literal godyou cannot despute this and always resort to commie socialist european cucked collectivism and dilution of faustian responsibilitythe game is ABOUT being an aryan warriorit's what tigole bitties and alex afrasiabi the iranian fuhrer envisionedand that feeling of superiority is the only reason why classic wow EVER existed
>>568647994*COCs your anus and kites you around in circles like an npc*
why does everyone hate eye on the wildheart trinket for boomkins and restro its a god dam god mode gambler trinket you can double proc it by casting in human and than going into a form and procing it again for like 360 spell power with no internal cool down if your lucky it chain procs like crazy
>>568649303nobody cares about minigays
>>568647994In some respects I agree. Being a Warrior in general is suffering but having the highest overall potential for meter toppage. Notice how everyone wants Warriors nerfed to the ground but given nothing else to compensate, because they're the "perfect class" (they aren't, that's Mage).I'm all for fagadins getting a damage boost but you gotta give up something in return. Hybrids in general ie healers are already in a good spot in 'nilla IF you like to raid as the classes were intended to play, they're already very strong outside of raids too, so if you want more, you gotta give up something.
>>568649383i dont know what any of that means
>>568651014thats because your not on the spectrum and should run from this evil skinnerbox of a game
evens i play mageodds i keep playing shaman
>>568645169Or maybe this is the third go around and we want to get to the fun stuff, retard.
Why were they so obsessed with making main hands weapons? ffs I am still using a green weapons as enh shaman because MHs keep dropping.No I am not doing pvp
>>568656425ive always wondered the same thing why do non-set mainhand weapons even exist at all
Is TBC Sneediversary dead yet? I am in the classic+ waiting queue, wish blizzard would take notes and understand that anything past vanilla is gay.
>>568640602Nothing wrong with blizzard's frames.
anyone alliance on doomhowl? having a lot of fun after burning out on the midnight hamster wheel
the thing you retarded mouth breathers don't realize is that you can now vibecode a better classic+ than blizzard will ever make. within 1 week. Just get a Codex or Claude 200$ sub, download the most recent pserver mangos/trinity core of the expansion you want it based on and you're all set. Even Alexensual can make a better classic+ than Blizzard now (idea for new arc, alex?). What are you waiting for? Are you a stupid retoilet untermensch, or EVROPAN BVILDER OF SOVIETIES?
Fuck me I didn't realize how frustrating it is to have to attune on every character.Looks like it's bench time until they get removed.
>>568640602I use elvui and clique, and some addon for totems. There is no one accepted best option I think.
Im thinking of starting a shaman on anniversary Should I do it if I don't have a guild but want to do raids? I'll roll on the EU PVE realm
>PvEYou're not playing the game
sorry im not interested in being corpsecamped by incels while tryin to do shit in the world
>>568574874They are. Preraid warrior in blues pumped with alchi and world buffs will wreck even maxx
Surprisingly it's easy to get raid spot as warrior in tbc but fuck this shit I don't want to play it, it's too expensive and unlike pala I can't just bankroll myself from strat farm
>>568673581Sure, why not? That's what I did. Enh and Ele are easiest specs to find roster spots in the game, and healers always have it easy too. PvE>PvP always when behind the curve.
>>568670898N*ger jeet go back to your psg containment cell
>>568670898>paying for sloppaLOL!>>568574784yeah the community is insufferable, bots everywhere, economy is completely fucked due to them, blizzkike does nothing to them. what an utter piece of shit
damn MoP is already out? haha, must have missed it! i've been taking my time and just leveling on one of the original classic servers. made it to 11 yesterday and spent some time just fishing and taking in the sights. what's the rush anon?
>>568687123
>>568673581Do not roll horde on Eu pveYou have been warned, they are still learning how to start a fireThe difference between ally and horde is depressing
When will Blizzard do something about the bots and cartels?
>>568691917ebin r*ddit spacing pseud
>>568695190never ever and a day longer
>>568695190when they stop making a profit off them
>>568695190in 2 weeks
>>568695190Never, they're paying customers after all. The playerbase has already shown them that they'll keep paying for and playing the game no matter how bad it gets.
>>568643313>i want to play with the big boys but on my terms where i am the only one who does not put in any effort
>>568704487You have to understand, the poster you replied to is most likely south american or of south american origin. Trying in any capacity in a group setting is seen as being taken advantage of in most countries in south america. It's the reason why Ragnaros/Azralon players hesitate to play with each other in retail.
>>568634553>>568643313>moonkins do the same level of dps as ret paladins in vanilla if not worse>the crit aura is overall a dps loss for the raid because one extra mage or warlock would do more damage in that group than providing 4 mages/locks 3% crit>if someone asks "can I bring my ret paladin" they get laughed out the discord server>if someone asks "can I bring my moonkin" the raid rolls out the red carpet and every caster begins to beg to be put in the crit chicken's groupBoomkins, how the fuck did we win? Are paladins simply hated that much?
>>568705546Rets don't bring anything exclusive.
>>568705546No one plays on era
>>568705546the boomkin does the same thing as the resto druid would which is buff the raid with mark of the wild and press faerie fire on mobs nobody cares about whatever he does outside of that
>>568705546druids are always more likely to flex so the boomkin could be asked to go resto and realistically do it. ask the ret to go holy and he will say no and throw a fit if you continue to pressure him
>>568707112the druid wants spell hit for faerie fire anyways
>TBC anniversary 2026>Queue daily BG>15 man alliance premade with 7 healersNot even incels are this pathetic. What compels these subhumans?
>>568709075He is talking about vanilla
>>568673581>>568691917I'm on Thunderstrike EU too. Disgusting amount of german/french clients in the chat channels.The players are mostly shit, but at least the server isn't 30% bots like Spineshatter.Topping the damage meters as frostmage with orange and pink parses lmao.If you want free raid spots just go Shaman (any spec).
>tanks 3 sr >tank also hr one token>everyone else 2 srK e K brehs
>>568710395so am i and if your druid is not pressing faerie fire with spell hit gear he is griefing
>>568710487How greedy can I be? Can I join TK and Kara as a fresh 70? Is resto the easiest way to get loot too while I'm at it?How cheap can I be on consumables?
>>568714531If you have blue dungeon gear people don't care as long as you drop wf totem or spell totems
>>568714531>>568710487>>568718324Enh/resto shaman on thunderstrike alliance, getting in parties is easy and it would be even easier if I spoke german. I regret rolling here, I didn't know it was the german/french server.
>>568718860>I regret rolling here, I didn't know it was the german/french server.Say no more
>>568718860Its eu, there are a couple of german and a couple of french guilds. Idk what you expect from eu, mexicans or something?
Say his name
>>568704961that's because it literally iswow is an easy game, if you're told to try it means someone is trying even lessfuck off with your socialism
>>find a nice friendly village of humans in silverpine forest>>go to the inn to log out>>weird that it makes me take the 20 seconds to log out but ok whatever>>log back in during night time>>friendly humans replaced with hostile wolf-men of some kindwtf?
>>568726762>what is lycantrophyanon, I...
>>568727546>what is lycanthropymeme condition, like autism and bipolar
>>568727756true, but not in the shithole you parked your character in it seems
>>568726762get yiffed retard
>>568661794300k characters raiding a week. It's still popping off
Tank is having a melty because someone rolled need on fel armament and he "needs the aldor rep".
>>568729857lmao. people act so entitled
>>568730361Like all the DPS crying that most tanks won't tank for their pugs unless they get paid for the headache
>>568730875I mean, I wouldn't either. I tank in xiv but I refuse to do so here.
I will tank in your pugI will play without addonsI will not manage threat properlyYou will thank me for it
>guys we need 5sec for tank to get threat every time the boss resets threat>warlock overaggroes and diesWhy are warlocks like this? It wasnt even aoe trash
>>568668334some of us from GLOBOFOMO on /wowg/ are playing ally on doomhowl
god orcs look so wrong in wow, both in classic and with WoD models, it's not even funny
Just the grain shipment from Andorhal. There's no need to worry milord, it's already been distributed amongst the villagers.
God i wish female humans existed irl, on god
>>568734982>Uther: Oh no, it's already begun. These people may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into the Undead!>Arthas: What?!>U: This entire city must be purged.>A: How can I even consider that? There's got to be some other way.>U: Damn it, Arthas! As my future king, order me to purge this city!>A: I am not your king yet, old man. Nor should you obey that command even if I were.>U: Then you must consider this an act of treason.>A: Treason?! Have I lost my mind, Uther?>U: Have you? Prince Arthas, by right of succession and the sovereignty of your crown, you must hereby relieve me of my command, and suspend my paladins from service.>Jaina: Uther! He can't just-->U: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow him. The rest of you... get out of his sight.>A: I've just crossed a terrible threshold, Uther.>J: ...Arthas?>A: I'm sorry, Jaina. You can't watch me do this.
>>568735579this but female dragons disguised as female humans
I wish HoJ didn't get moved to Emp, such a slog of a farm even if you stealth all the way up to his throne room
Holy crap elves used to be tall
>lost my level 8 HC priest to three murlocsTHIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS
>>568738130this but unironically and I don't even play HCit's always the same shit, both HC and era>>don't take risks>>get bored>>start taking risks>>die>>repeat
>>568738130>lvl 8thats like 3 hours bro, just go agane and dont be retarded
>>568738130murlocs and caves are a death sentence. hc is streamerbait though and completely moot given the amount of bots going around and blizzard doing nothing with them. were the bots gone or they'd implement epoch's rp walk idea I'd give it a shot tho
>>568724091our lord and savior
alexensual wonmethod josh won
>>568739025neither of those are exclusive to HC at all
>>568735742Lmao
>>568666402>>568672105Guess I'll do clique and standard UI, guess I'm just paranoid about not seeing stuff I need to cleanse or debuffs and that. Maybe just making excuses and will just jump in rather than putting it off. Thanks.Any word on guide/addon for doing all the TBC quests for gold? Need the cash and would love to turn my brain off in order to do it. Guessing proff wise I'll go ench (275 to DE anything?) but no idea what would be good for tbc/potential wrath. Was kind of regretting spineshatter but hearing these thunderstrike comments I guess I'm hoping not too much griefing in my future. Guess pala/mage alt for farm might still be in the works but I guess I'll focus on finishing this thing.
>>568735742why did uther do it
>>568749168gavinrad was making a move, he had to get it on
>>568705546Rets typically want all the gear that the Warriors (and rogues) want whilst doing fuck all damage. They're a literal parasitic loot sponge that does less than the tank. They'll also probably take the gear that the Holy Paladins want like T2 for some janky spelladin shit that is just as bad.Our guild always made it clear that any meme spec would be dead last in loot prio. If they get pissy about it then they can hit the road and find a meme guild
>>568749879>less than the tankbruh the tank in vanilla is a dps
>>568750752yeah and if you can't match that you need to fuck off
>>568750752exactlyRet paladins and frankly paladins of any kind are there to eat shit and die, that's why they're thereAnything other than that and this is NOT the world of warcraft of my classical education
>>568750939you need mages to decurse
>>568751004paladin is always the last class to die
>>568751629lol as if
>>568752259outside of getting mc'd and killed by an incel when do paladins die before anyone else
>>568752651when the mage escapes through the door of light
play retail (objectively better game)
All this erajeet talk...
>>568754342i wanted to for the goblin girls but the rest of the game was giving me eye cancer
>lfm kt cleanup
i would have said retail was better in DF, but honestly TWW and Midnight are lazy low effort bad expansions, especially Midnight.
who asked?
>>568754342A lot of why I play classic WoW is because of the immersive atmosphere. Everything is too power crept in retail for me to enjoy it. It's simply strayed too far from the RTS series.
orc, undead, or elf lock?
i personally asked that anon
>>568763375orc desu
we need race changes on era
we need tbc on era
whats the point of self found?
>>568769941i guess its supposed to be a challenge. i really dont know
>>568769941redditors to feel good about themselves
>>568754342They massacred shaman, so no
>>568773358Totems actually take skill now being active abilities not just static buffs you place on the ground and let sit there
>>568773547but they removed fire nova totem
how do i lvl a priest?i want to heal
>>568782732get spirit tap in the shadow tree and then simply bee urself
>>568769941It's a white thing
>>568754342I don't hate retail but it's on the same level of something like Genshin Impact to me
>>568782732>bubble>dot>wand>tab out for 20 secs>repeat for 200 hours
did every spell really need a 3 second cast time
>>568791312
>>568791312is something supposed be east of arathi and west of mulgore
>tanks 3 sr + 1 hr>rest 2 srTake me back to 1999
Classic "I fell off the horse" Andy
>>568791312Mental illness picrel
The only retail races classic+ needs
>>568791642>more dwarves
>>568791661Yeah, I will not rest until Horde have angry fire dwarves
>>568791642The high elves are Blood elves, did you skip wc3 or something?
>>568791550where is pandaria?? i was told that was deep warcraft lore and not kung fu panda for chink markets
>>568791737No one mentioned high elves
It's time to start overNot Classic+But Classic reimagined in a new timelineA better timeline, without human cucks and orcniggers
>568791986You posted this in the real thread and got no bites. Maybe just kill yourself
>>568792325>retail player energy
>you posted this in the reddit thread and got no bites. maybe just kill yourself
Is Destiny a good weapon for slam warrior?
>>568791769That map was probably before the frozen throne released, pandas were introduced in tft with chen stormstout in the rexxar campaign
>>568791986Furbolgs... vgh.. if only...Sometimes I feel like I'm the only playable furbolgs autist out there
>>568795659furbolgs shouldve been the alliance shaman race
>>568730361>why cant i find a tank for my dungeon
Will there be RP on Classic+?
>>568791737Kill yourself autist
>>568798671Fr fr
>>568791986honestly very interesting, this would be kalimdor in a version of wow set during the second war, something ive fantasized a lot about, did you come up with this yourself, i would wanna do one for eastern kingdoms
>>568737715fun fact, classic high elf females are taller than the males
Do you rather play early in the morning or late at night
>>568804960I don't have enough of an interest in the EK at large. If I make another stupid map it'll either be Lordaeron (with a focus on Alterac, Arathi, and Gilneas), or a "what if the base game was Northrend and Outland instead"
>>568571880>People still post my kino memes
>>568805657I rather play 24/7 so i dont have to be reminded of how shitty my life is
>>568773358they gave you winfury back and ret is a literal memespec without itjoin us.
>Race to world first>For a Raid reealsed 10+ years ago
1. How frustrating is it to play an alliance warlock on a pvp server when 40% of horde are undead?2. Chances of horde racials getting a nerf in classic+?Warlock is my favorite class by far but I played a human lock on Kronos 3 and I don't recall the experience well. I know that in the abstract, ally warlocks are more in demand, get more loot and don't have to deal with paladins dispelling their dots in BGs. But something about almost half the enemy players having a 5s immunity and trinket to your primary CC sounds like an intolerable handicap. Not least because, you're giving every incel school shooter who rolled undead rogue/mage a free dopamine hit that they can finally use their broken racial.
A Warlock complaining about Classic wow pvpNow thats new
Your whole class is broken stfu
you already posted that
>>568812856>toilet bad>do not redeem the google play
>>568814705>2 indirect seethe repliesThink I gotta make a warlock bros, makes autists have a fit just by existing
The most brain dead class in tbc
>>568817302All of them
>>568807521Seems like a skill issue
>>568814705go orc warlock so you make the parsetrannies who rolled human rogue/war seethe
Why are there so many 60% mounters in green boes queuing bgs.There's so many things to do at max level, and these insects are queuing AB and being completely useless.
>>568824218Cheapest boost from bot sites probly
it's insane to me how dead Classic isI get that Classic+ is like 2-3 years away or whatever, but why aren't they doing a fresh for SoD at least?Everything is so boring.
>>568828716whats the point of a fresh when its invalidated by the next fresh
>>568791642>>568791737As much as I love the draenei, what I want from classic+ is blood elves vs loyalist high elves in some form.
>>568824218>>568825234Could they be farming honor?
>>568805657one of the reasons i never uninstall the game is because there is never anything to do at 2am
>>5688292434k honor for a 26 min game doesn't seem like the brightest farming idea to me.
>>568824218ive seen the entire team(besides me of course) go to goldmine and somehow lose the cap so many times it has to be bots
>>568812905i feel like half of them are saying it like a joke
10 classic players can easily beat up 100 retail players.
delusion and classic playerslike flies to shit
>>56884057410 men in their prime vs 100 50yo sickly trannys?yeah
>>568738130I remade my HC guy today, same everything. This time I got to level 9 then died lmfao, not even joking.
No one is running heroic shattered halls and I need it
>playing era>finally got some raid gear>decide to do a bit of pvp>everyone else deletes me in a 1v1 it wasn't supposed to be like this
>>568749879I understand being a loot vacuum against the warriors is different from being a loot vacuum against the mages/locks. Maybe it's because moonkins don't expect to ever get a nelth's tear. I played in a DKP guild so it was never a big deal when the moonkin got gear.
>>568850842you should kill the dual boxing mages around stratholme to feel better
>>568841075>spending your prime playing this shitgrim
>>568852543how do you think they became 50yo sickly trannys
i was still in highschool when i played feenix/nost and this year im going to be 30 u_u
>>568856368>playing banilla makes you a sickly trannybolumes
>>568856972retail players also wasted their prime playing banilla, tbc, wotlk that is true but they couldnt get out and now theyve been slow boiled through a decade of furry and lgbtq2ia+ xpacsblizzard needs a class action desu
>>568849440what do you need there?
>>568790413more like>bubble>holy fire>MB>wand
>>568790413>>568862563you can literally do whatever you want stacking spirit gear with spirit tap
>>568867929good luck smiting with spell pushback
Leveling as a mana class sucks
>>568868362>Laughs in hunter, priest, druid, and warlock
>>568868362i wasnt having any trouble chopping through everything on my shaman
>3 more months of complete silence regarding C+Why are they like this? At least tell us what base client they're going to use... like it'd be nice to know if we're getting vanilla, TBC or WOTLK ret as a base.
Should I drop ffxiv for tbc? Ive got a few friends playing tbc right now and I really miss playing tbc hunter
>>568870686idk what ffxiv is
>>568871275 fino fanta fourteen
>>568870686>Should I drop this game filled with trannies for a game filled with subhuman thirdworldersI dunno man.
There is a spec called preg pala
>>568871757sigh we couldve had both if blizzard left turtle alone
wasnt classic plus just TBC?
>>568872962it cant be read >>568612614also nobody knows what classic+ is and it cant be defined btw
>>568574874A warrior in pre raid bis with full wbuffs and consumes will out damage a warrior in full bis with out buffs and conusmes.Gear just sends them into absolute over drive. You really cant comprehend how fucking absurd warrior is until you play one.
>>568851196It's really just gear fear. There are typically 13 warriors in a raid and they have to compete for loot with hunters and rogues. Having one more person who can roll on their shit causes them to unbelievably seethe and ree.
>be hunter>wear 2p t5 while soloing>have had three random hunters ask me why im not wearing 4p beastlord holy shit fuck off retards
>>568879113that is not bis anon
Holy shit can I go ONE week without bagnon breaking because of a micro-patch from blizz? This doesn't happen to any other addon.
>>568417028People still use MMO-champion?
>>568858980Attunement
>>568881019Stop using bagnon
tbc hunter melee weaving is peak wow
>>568886137BM should have been dual wielding + pet (rexxar)Survival should have been ranged + pet (dwarf hunter in the intro video)Marksman should have been ranged + no pet (dwarf marksmen)
If you have your main WoW acc tied to your battle.net, can you make a starter (free) account as well and have both logged in at the same time?
Oh you know.
>>568887869i dont know but probably not
I wish I liked tanking in wow, it would trivialize finding groups
>online friend creates a guild>it fills relatively easy>31 geared raiders ready for phase 2>main tank who got every item drops the game after one discussion with gm>2 guys leave because of work schedule>another one leaves because a family member got sick>6 people completely disappear from the game >we're now barely 20 retards and half of them don't even bother watching guides or paying attention to mechanics>we can't even reach vash or kaelthas because some are too tired after 1-2 hours of raid (lol)fuck this shit never raiding again after this phase
ngl I am kinda doomering about not finding a shattered halls party Like I just found one, but I got ignored and found another healer
>>568887869Yes just dont have them use the same email
>>568851196>moonkins don't expect to ever get a nelth's tearof course they do because their main job is pressing faerie fire to buff warriors and if the first fearie fire resists raid dps goes down a lot
>>568902804I finally did it but I am not happy, just glad. Fuck this shit I am never doing that priest alt
>>568902804wow community sucks
>>568906031>id first faerie fire resistsStfu pls you have no idea what you are talking about
>>568906782hmm INTERESTING i wonder why the druid has stacked spell hit and has nelths tearturns out you are the animal and completely clueless
we are here!https://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolinahttps://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolinahttps://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
sure are a lot of dudes playing as female characters in wow classic... almost as if you're all a bunch of TROOOONS!!!
Whats going on with TBC?I see like every random group having "unwanteds" on HR. Even those where you can gearcheck tank and he is wearing some shitty leveling gear.Worst thing is that most of them dont even write it upfront, they do the rat thing where they either write it after you join the group, write right before dungeon or you find out within the dungeon
>>568917653because thirdies need to put food on the table and firstie neets want to upgrade their gpu
I am finally done with the attunement. Daily heroic, ssc/tk on sunday, and gruul somewhere along the week. I can now play some other game.
if I get sweeping strikes at level 40 instead of 30, am I basically griefing?
>>568924876YesWhy would you not abuse your best power spike in conjunction with ww axe?
>>568927218because I probably won't even get the ww axe until level 40 anyway
>Anni lost 20k raiders in the last week>Even with post nerf T5
>siege trinkets are so busted than even the lfr ones are better than the heroic ToT ones
>>568936626Yeah they're incredibly busted...
>>568870302If they use anything but Vanilla they're retarded.
>>568939928
>>568941159>>568870302It will be wotlk base in a vanilla map.
>>568939928i dont get it. is it the esl responses or the fact that they are reserving the only loot people are after
>>568942440Hey, people also want the healing trinket
if classic+ doesn't have kul tiras and gilneas it is not worth playing
>>568950626retail ruined kul tiras and i doubt they will deviate from that fat retard design
>+ isn't worth playing without obese humansjust play your real life retard
>>568417028SoD won.Why haven't you played it?
if classic+ doesn't burn down teldrassil and every fucking nelffag in it to cinders and screeching and crying and pissing themselves and then dying it is not worth playing
I'm gonna say it. Tabards are unwarcrafty
Question for the people who played during real classic back in 2005 - when grouping and items dropped to roll on, back before there were the Need/Greed buttons, what was it people would say in chat to decide to roll or pass? I'm trying to remember. I think we would say either "n" for need or "v" for vendor. If anyone said n then that person rolled and everyone else passed. But if nobody said n then everyone would roll.Anyone else remember this?
might be doing my first ever ssc
>>568963808no, that never happened
>>568964485solo self-crafted? how do you do that, you can't get a pick or a blacksmith hammer without buying them
>Be priest>Decide to spend arena points on S1 healing mace as i just have leveled and got now enough conquest to buy me a weapon>Do Kara next day>healing mace drops>noone needs itARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
>>568963808ive always just used the buttons
>>Be priest
>>568963808in 2005 you had different servers with different unique rules and personalitynot always good
>>568967827thats just how the game works its even worse when you have multiple characters
>>568939928another reason they shouldve released t5 in phase 1
september is so far away im gonna kms
>>568967827I keep telling people, if you want a weapon drop, always enchant your current one with the best enchant possible. The game has a way of knowing when to happy punish you.
>>568973309my enchanted wep is better desu
>>568972962Whats in september? Pls dont say blizzcon or some other irrelevant thing
lady vashj pump incominghttps://www.twitch.tv/stellsiashttps://www.twitch.tv/stellsiashttps://www.twitch.tv/stellsias
>>568978836moms birthday
Any burgers want to start on hardcore with me? I want to play a Priest
>Classic+ in 2027>New Witcher DLC in 2027>New Kingdom Come game potentially late 2027Is gaming... dare I say it? Healing?
>>568982323>3 potentially bad gamesno
>ploos not even defined let alone announced (calling it classic instead of retoilet+ huh? Ok)>getting hyped for some tripple A downloadable content>something something Potentially comingDamn 2027 is killing it
>>568983338Witcher 3 DLC then Witcher 4. If you haven't played the Kingdom Come games, I highly recommend them. The first game hard filters a lot of people due to the combat system but if you give it a chance, it actually becomes very enjoyable.
>>568984881>The first game hard filters a lot of people due to the combat systemhow so? thinking of trying it
>>568984986It just has a very steep learning curve that can be frustrating. They removed a lot of the complexity in the following game because people complained.
>>568984881I played 5 hours of kingdom come and it was boring as fuck
I have to win against the german guild gatekeeper mafiaWish me luck
>>568987028I can't imagine being forced to play with EU spergs.
>>568987113Half the server is refusing to speak in englishThey cried for german servers and didnt get one so they invaded the eu pve server with this nazi shit
>>568987113Very comfy. Russians and germoids used to have their own containment servers. It used to be a lot better than NA which is half Spanish, nowadays though I'd rather take the spics over germoids, no joke.
>>568987904in 2020 there was kind of a spanish containment server but its all merged now
>>568989029Ah, that's cool. Around the same time EU had their containments up probably. They need to bring those back
>>568984881KCD1 is eurojankKCD2 is woke blackrockslop
>>568956491Basically everyone did during phase 1.Then most quit because there was nothing to do at lvl 25.
>>568989104the game does not have the population to have country specific servers like it used to when 10 million played the game its why the usa servers are forced to deal the the oce shitters and 3rd world mexicans. you ever raid with a australian guild? my god I did worst choice of my life they could not down prince on week two and blamed my tanking even tho I day 1ed prince without issue
>>568997558every other guild has a few aussies so i dont notice desu
>>568998272when they are spread out they are charming outsiders but when its the whole guild my god nightmare material
>>568998272I swear every Aussie/NZer in my guild are NEETs cause why are they raiding every morning on the weekdays then go to bed during NA's mornings.
>>568999195half of the playerbase is neets
whats the best era realm?
>>569004512whitemane pvp on na firemaw pvp on euthe servers are clustered so it doesnt matter which individual one you pick as long as theyre in the whitemane or firemaw cluster. there are pve servers too but they are a lot smaller and the populations are 80% alliance
>>569005654ok i made a human priest on whitemanewhat am i in for?
>>569006119vanilla wow!! on a 10 year old server. take advantage of the inflated prices at the auction house for ez mount money and so on
How come Barny stopped making videos?
>>568939928Honestly even as a caster/healer I'm not enticed joining dst hr pugs. Although I don't need it myself, I also want less competition for my tokens and guess what all the warriors will sr instead of dst if it's locked? If it isn't, I get free defenders tokens.
>>569008726too much hrt and welfare
>>569008726too busy seething about chuds on twitter
>>569008726>tbc>wrath>cata>sod>hardcore>anniversary vanillaHe has now played through all of these and hasn't even finished his tbc video yet.
>>569011185>that listwhere did the time go
>>569014340Not to mention we are about to get the last patch of MoP so that xpac is also finished.
Is there any more info on the Jokerd reroll for SOD? I know Guzu is also doing one, but I don’t think I feel like leveling without the XP boost buff in SOD again. So I would like to find out some more info on Jokerd’s approach to the reroll but can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Any OCEtards wanna level with me? I'm using RestedXP and it's put me into the blood elf leveling area and I kinda need someone to fuckin chat with while I got youtube going in the background
>>568427157Shame the game sucked
>>569018205there are multiple of them?
Do Pugs still ask for tier full tier 12 set to enter Karazhan? Hopefully my cheap gems and enchants will be enough.
Is this was I get for playing on linux?
>>569025868Could be something else, I know plenty of people who (for some reason) play on steam deck.
>>569025962I wasn't hacking though, that's what the reason for it was. (´~`)
>>569025868Because of the short length of your ban, you may not appeal it
>>568990697>Woke blackrockslopThe only woke shit that was shoehorned in was being able to romance Hans.
>>569006119You are in for peak private server slop with inflation through the roof so you can get your welfare mounties and stuff
>>568939928why can't they just put DST on a vendor for badges when tier 6 starts?
>>569038412what is it with this retoilet mentality of putting everything on a fucking vendor just to invalidate all previous content?
>>569038893>retail out of nowhereThey don't do that, the ilvls are just high enough that all trinkets are garbage compared to the trinkets of the following season
>toilets out of nowhereV O L U M E S
>>569038893Because the damage by the retail mindset is already done. That's why consumes costs are astronomical. Everyone wants to minmax despite not needing to. The least Blizzard could do is reduce the amount of friction if they're going to fuck the playerbase over by ending the game in a year instead of 16-22 months like TBC/TBC Classic was originally supposed to run for.
>>569038893because Classic is filled with toilet tourists, why do you think the community is so shit?
>>568571880I really don't understand how people enjoy the classic parse meta after the first iteration of classic. Shit gets old real fast when all you're doing every week is obsessing over the orange/yellow number because you do enough damage to ignore 90% of vanilla's raid mechanics which aren't very hard, but every parse-obsessed retard i've run into literally cannot handle boss mechanics to save their fucking life and now I have to deal with them being unable to handle nerfed SSC/TK raid mechanics because classic fried their brain and they would rather ignore add mechanics off of Al'ar or KT egg because it doesn't count towards their parse.
>>568574784>Subreddit filled with elitists complaining about people not knowing mechanicsThis is valid thougheverbeit, there are so many resources or people you could ask to circumvent not knowing raid mechanics in the dad gamer filter phase
>>569039986They need to minmax since you are not getting a raid spot with shit parses on warcraftlogs
>>569039986>muh retailnah retailers wouldnt touch the piece of shit game that is classicthere are midnight herbs that are cheaper than herbs on tbc classicyou did it to yourselves
>>569042261Half the raidlogers are play retoilet
>phases are half the length of previous phases of TBC>loot drop rate remains the sameI don't think it's preposterous to see an accelerated server and demand that loot should flow in a corresponding accelerated fashion
>>569042769Phase 2 is exactly the same length as phase 1I dont see pugs clearing p3 content anyway unless its one of those one shot pugs with an experiences clique that is funneling gear because half the raid does not know what is happening
>lost 20k raiders last weeknot a good look tbcsissies
>>569043358they dont call it the filtering crusade for nothing
>>569042019>>569042261Everyone says "retail mindset" then points their fingers at retail players but that's not even the case. The world buff consume stack meta came over from private servers and none of those freaks had played retail in years.
>>569043524private servers werent nearly as degeneratet. played on them since the molten and monsterwow era
the biller must boom. it is natural law
>>569043754Everyone wanted to be the next APES/Progress/Onslaught. Pservers would most likely have been just as bad if a WCL quality website existed.
People are trying to get their numbers up because they wont get spots in grps that can one shot these raidsHas nothing to do with literal who sweat guilds
>>569044468>Literal who sweat guilds set the meta>Meta trickles down because that's what always happens in every single video gameYou think this isn't how gaming works in 2026 but go look at the amount of "PLAY THIS X BUILD TO COMPLETELY DOMINATE THIS SINGLE PLAYER GAME" on Youtube. Gaming in general is plagued by minmax culture. It's not crazy to say the worldbuff consume stacking was ported over from pserver guilds when they were the ones pioneering it since Nostalrius/Northdale.
>the latest cope is to now blame the results of your own terrible community on a completely different and unrelated terrible community who likely doesn't even play classic
There is a finite source of engineering and alchemy consumes, parsing is not rocket science
>>569043125anniversary as a whole, not the individual phases you dingusso p1 TBCC vs p1 TBCCA
don't you have a toilet to decorate?
My hardcore warrior is level 14!I managed to make like 3 gold selling copper on the AH and it's been pretty self-sustaining for a while. If you buy a new weapon every few levels, warrior leveling really isn't that bad. I'm sure it'll get worse with time though as stuff gets stronger.
>>569048639P1 of both of them are the same, retard, the only accelarated parts are p3 onward
>>569043358>>569043501324000 logged characters. hundreds of thousands are still leveling.
>>569050575this is including p*p toons. raiding lost 20k from 331 to 310k
>>569051958Been raiding since week one lil n*ga, more than half of my raids arent even logged
>>569052526massive cope
>>569054419Millions of us unlogged raiders
only a census can save anni ...
>>569042261debunkedwhenever a new retail version comes out 70% of the guild discord talks about it and plays it
Umm, dst gets replaced by tsunami trinket anyway
>>569070429only feral chad is lucky enough to discard dst for tsunami
if you want to raid in era you will need to go through him
>tanks 3 sr + 1hr>everyone else 2srBrehs
>>569073938>if you need, need
>>569043754i miss those vanilla wow servers that were run on tbc
actually i dont think anyone called it vanilla wow back then it was always called pre-tbc
>>569078027nah it was always vanillaonly recently did people start calling it classic
>>569079436might be true. i cant really remember and the only supporting evidence i have is if you look up pre-tbc before:2010 on youtube you get videos of old private servers and if you look up vanilla wow before:2010 you get nothing
why is this general so dead?theres classic plus news to discuss
>>569083309such as?
classic+ should have 50man raids
>>569083309too little too late only reddit/facebook dads give a shit about classic anymore
>>569083309you cant even define classic plus, much less discuss it
>>569084952it was defined in this very thread tho
>>569085219Your idea of ploos with gay centaurs does not count
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/14273-MoP-Classic-PTR-Hints-at-Solo-Shuffle-and-BG-Blitz-Brian-Holinka-Joins-Riot-Games>Solo Shuffle and Battleground Blitz may eventually make their way to Mists of Pandaria Classic! In the latest Classic PTR build, Blizzard updated pvpinfodocumentation.lua, adding new API references related to Solo Shuffle and Solo Rated Battlegrounds.Only retail can save classic... Ironic...
>>569086626goddamn mop really got exposed as the worst version of this game
cata, mop, and wod are too far from classic but still too primitive for retailit was doomed
>>569086626>let's bring features from the dead version of the game, it will surely revive this one
>>569087589Uh anon ss and blitz are not from classic...
>>569086626wow mop pvp will be poppin off now just like retail pvp is poppin off!
>>569086626What's Solo Shuffle and Battleground Blitz? I'm not versed in retoilet lingo
>>569088370being a pvper must be true suffering
>>569088812well yeah pvp is a meme minigame
>>569088812no one but uncs that cant hack it in dota care about wow pvp
>>569088979yeah>>569089067yeah, but the gameplay is unique enough that i can understand wanting to keep playing it. like dota 2 isnt really that similar
>>569088370more people queue shuffle every day than there are classic players on every version combined. shuffle saved wow pvp, arenachuds are simply too raped to admit it
>>569090887proofs?
>>569088502solo shuffle is arena but with machmaking and cycling teams. you play 6 rounds and each round you get different teammates. dampening ramps faster so you get 2 min rounds on average.bg blitz is rbgs but you can't do full premades, you also get faster mounted speed.shuffle is significantly more popular than regular arena and blitz completely decimated the rbg scene.
>>569091850how will thirdies sell boosts and win trade in pvp then?
Everyone has to suffer because some people cant just accept the randomness of gearing
>>569086626kinda weird to bring this now when mop will get its final patch tomorrow
>>569093829maybe thats why, the wanna test it out before doing it in wrath anni and classic+
>>569094213test what if it's already there on the toilet?
>>569093829For wod
>>569094460>Wod Classic will add all the missing features wod had originallyH O L Y
>>569094341classic pvp and retoilet pvp are very different, maybe the formula doesn't work as well in classic. healers in retoilet all have a defensive (or multiple) they can press during cc for example.
>>569094916i meant the system itself not the class balance. unless plooos is based on mop class gameplay then it would be pvre kino
what happens if they dont talk about classic+ at blizzcon
>>569096001We continue playing on Capy
>>569096426eww get out of here tranny
>>569096426Psgjeet get back to your containment thread
>>569058168a census you say...
I got to lvl 60What nou
>>569105925go rank14
we have to find a way back
when is the next fresh?
>>569115058if classic+ is real probably 2028if there is no classic+ then we have to wait for streamers to tell blizzard they want FRESH
>>569116285classic ploos is 2027 and tbc anni advances to wrath in 2028 it would make zero sense to release a anniversary edition a year early
>>568580135It was and I loved it.Popping into this thread after glancing at the OP and I'm hoping it's real.
>>5691164592027 seems a bit early
>>569118960SoD released like a week after it's reveal
Nice week old general losers!This kino was posted by the /wpsg/ gang, FRESH threads daily.
Come on what is this shit? Do classictards really?
>>569137420Nowadays im getting so tired of this HR shit on literally everything. Especially considering that most groups that are listed in LFG that dont HR anything actually DO HR everything, they just dont write it in dungeon finder, you first have to join their group and fly to the dungeon to realize that everything is HR
>>569137420My favorite is “everything not SR is HR”
Did they increase the exp rate on anniversary or something? Been casually leveling a warrior and it feels much faster than when I leveled mage and shaman, 30-40 felt torturous but i've breezed through it this time. Maybe i'm just enjoying it more.
Man fuck this lvl 60 warlock mount questIt’s so fake and gay
javels gym brapper!!
Hope they change classes in classic plus.Have to pick a class:>WarriorNot competing with 12 others for gear>RogueCompeting with bunch of same loot as Warriors>PaladinBoring healer, can't do other shit>ShamanBoring healer, can't do other shit>HunterBoring>WarlockLiterally one button to press, soulshards taking bag slots>MageOne button to press, lots of competition>PriestCan't find many flaws for a healer, Spriest sucks>Druid10 year old me noticed that it was the last class they made and it shows. Will play it if they fix 99 problems it hasLove how almost all specs are fun in TBC.
Why did they put the bis totem for enh on the hardest boss in the game
>>569148236Hyjal orc side?
>250k survey entries for c+>want new models>want new spell effects>want layers>want rated pve and pvp>want reduced raid size>want aoe loot>want achievments>want quality of life raid buff consolidation and durations>want 4th spec>new proffesionsso....these people want....retail...pony-tail sama was correct. apologize.
>>569148838Everyone wants retail without extra continents and flying mounts.
>>569148912I'm starting to get retail-pilled. Might be time to switch generals.
>>569148954dont/wowg/ is infested by a clique of furtroons posting their shitty slop all day every day
>>569148954Test those waters with MoP first then
>>569149103>implying /wowcg/ isnt filled with a bunch of degenerate faggots too
>>569148838>Don't limit the survey to Classic only players>Get a bunch of retoilet requests
>>569149215its better than slopped furfag avatars derailing the thread with their samefagged shit
>>569144253Any tips for this quest? I thought I was done with the 30 raging blood thingies and now I get 3 additional questsWtfI’m legit new at this
>>569149509Check the quest on wowhead and see the whole chain and what it needs. Ask for help in chat if needed.
Levelling alts is such a feel bad moment in this game, I have no idea how people go through it
>>569149509Ask a warlock to boost you for 500gIt saves you another 500
>>569150120Boost to 58, do dungeons.
>>569150230Yeah but you could be running heroics instead to gear, or make money. And the you have to grind reps again, and the attunements.Idk, since I started playing xiv I simply find their system much better
>>569150120the usual cope is that the leveling is better than the endgame
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Call me when they make a Classic Ploos survey ingame for people actually playing Classic so 'toilet tourists can't skew the results.
>>569152361retoilet tourists dropped that turd game back in classic
>>569152361in fact, don't send a survey to anyone with retoilet installed in their pc
>>569148838>want layers I won't be playing if there's this cancer. Absolutely ruins the game world. What was wrong with having servers? Just merge them if they start getting fucked up populations.
>>569154558I too enjoy spending all day hoping to get 1 tag on a mob that's needed for 2 different quests and is in the way of the next 3 quests so 500 players are all trying to kill it on sight
>>569150507>Idk, since I started playing xiv I simply find their system much betterwhat system? slog through 150+ hours of "story" just so you can start playing the game?
>>569042769>loot drop rate remains the sameDidn't they increase the amount of drops for tier pieces?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz62h4VVkwMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz62h4VVkwMTRVTH NVKE
>>569157629yeah its the toilets who likely dont even play instead of your own dogshit community im sure
>>569155587>hallucinating a scenario that never happensMeds retard
>>569157629is there a single thing trannys(retail players) havent tried to ruin this decade?
>>569156491The system where you can play every class on a single toon.
>>569127280pls no bully
>>569157629Classic players talk more about retail than retail players talk about their own game I swear to god lmfao
oh my nigger! i can finally build a toilet!
>>569160381yeah, mostly making fun of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkgvMLi3PE
kinda funny how the "toilets" didnt "ruin classic" when it was doing well in 2019 despite that being the only time they likely played
>blud don't deny being a toilettestaments
>>569038412H+ dungeons > Vendor
>>569148838Developing off surveys (or any collective) is retarded especially when there is virtually no quality control, ie limiting them to Classic playersUnless there is an actual dev lead with a personal vision it's fucked
>>569171759>no arguments, just indirect seethebolumes
>>569175839the fact that they're asking grifters what to put in ploos says a lot
>>569038893Bosses should drop tokens, when you have 10-12 of those you can buy item from its loot table.
Are we preppin for Wrath Anni or nah?
>>569177059Nah
>>569176814Why?Ill give you a better idea, bosses should drop tokens with which you can buy flasks and parsing pots.
>>569167261it's a shame my alliance guild died so i have to play with no shoe niggers
>>569178067and render professions useless? r*tard
>>569179362No you dont, just the alchy mafiaRetard
>>569148838I just want quests to tell me exactly where to go and zones to show recommended level and normal QoL stuff like this
>>569086626They keep bringing retoilet systems to Classic and then wonder why it's dead ...
>>569148838>250k retoilet players take a survey and submit retoilet answersHoly
>>569182493>you cant survey the people who would want to play it>you have to survey the people who will play it regardless
>>569183314This is why you only send surveys with people that never played r*tail.
People want Classic plus to be retail. But without the leveling experience, without the story, without the gay centaurs and stag husbands, without the bloated gameplay, without the over reliance on addons and third party websites, without the disney pixar models, without the hundred of useless currencies, without 10 different raid difficulties, without the pay to win aspect (token), without crossrealm, without layers, without sharting, without crossfaction, without dungeons just being glorified hallways. People just want retail man.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM PLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSING
>>569184001Truke
>>569184001I want retail but good
Can you recognize this music? It goes something like "sa-ha.. sa-ha, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, sa-ha, sa-ha, dun dun dun dun dun dun.."
>>569184001brvtal
>>569184498Hint: That's from the expansion where classing is going next..
>ctrl f vanilla>25 results>ctrl f retail > 44 results
>>569188884toilet 22 results
Sneedvun status?
Daily reminder that ploos isnt announced, confirmed nor defined(Your idea of ploos with or without gay centaurs does not count)
