>Lasguns fire beams of light editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>568288696>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus is coming to Warhammer 40,000: Darktide!https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Space Marine 2:Patch Noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0Dude Wallhttps://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
space orks lmao
bolter veteran with executioner's stance
*hits blunt*If Fatshark made their next 'tide game a different franchise instead of Warhammer, what would you want it to be?
>>568433859Wut wuz dat ya git?
>>568433938Scandinavian folkloreI want none marvel Thor and Loki, they're much funnier than cringe capeshit
Shock trooper needs to be a marksman focus keystone modifier and should also provide increased crit chance for ranged weapons.
>>568433938Star Wars. Occupying Endor.
>>568433938Dune
playing sm2 as well as darktide makes me treat the darktide bolter like it's autogun
>>568433937Are the most skilled class in the game.
Skitarii?More like Shitarii!
>>568434773You take that back!
>>568434071>peter madsenisn't that the guy who built a submarine and then murdered a journalist in it
>>568434773>SKIITARII?>MORE LIKE SCATARII?TRY HARDER RATNIGGER
>>568434902Different Peter MadsenIt's a very common name + surname in Denmark
>>568434902>isn't that the guy who built a submarine and then murdered a journalist in itHuh, something for me to google.
What about ____lasguns____?
Why does every Russian play a stealth veteran in prisoner rags and then join havoc?Why can't these fuckers just bring gold health?
>>568432096They bring it for threat reduction, your actual damage is higher in that ten second window than if you were using executioner stance since you don't have to worry about melee. They don't bring shout because a lot of players don't keep trash clear of them so they can actually use their shooting build to its fullest extent.
>>568435706More like skubguns that fire piss
True Grit?More like True Shit!
Coming to Darktide nextGames workshop mandated star wars pew pew blaster bulletsEnjoy your new las weapons vetsRed lasers are Dawn of War propaganda, ignore the decades of lore, this is the popular thing nowTypical GW behavior, but then again Fatshark is basically just free advertisement for them, they're not particularly concerned about gamer opinionsThank the emperor it doesn't affect my tabletop games
>>568436138Now that sounds like a fun Idea. Shooting completely unmolested... but then again I'm pretty good at weaving around attacks with my ranged weapon out, like those goofy resident evil animations.
>>568436978ntaBut gold health really helps psyker out, his toughtness and healthbar is more of a suggestion on havoc40If you're playing flamestaff and doing hordeclear duty, it doesn't take more than a couple of zombie hits in the back for you to go down.
>>568436904>ignore the decades of loreFrom irrelevant 3rd party video games from like a decade ago that don't matter.
>>568436138>They bring it for threat reductionIt's not gonna help if you actually do damage
>>568437269No it helps, it just doesn't help if your 90% threat reduction still puts you at a higher threat level than the rest of your team, but at that point you are playing with shitters in the 20 range and no build or skill level will save you from that.
>>568437204Over two decades in the tabletop, which is core Games workshop interest (They make so much money selling plastic crack to rich nerds) They've been beams of light since 3rd edition, this is just another retcon they're doing for marketing reasons.But unlike female custodes, I actually care about the guardsmen, since they're the base template that every other faction is compared to.Autoguns exist...Just let some Imperial Guard company (No I'm not calling them Astra Militarum, go fuck yourself) that actually uses Autoguns shine for once in a whileOh wait you don't want to bring out all your historical rip-off companies do you?You want EVERYTHING to be fucking CADIANSAbaddon did the galaxy a service and yet we can't escape these fuckersThe running joke within the community was always that Imperial guardsmen were equipped with flashlights and t-shirtsBecause Flak armor was a pathetic armor save that did basically nothing against Bolters
>>568437771>they're the base template that every other faction is compared to.That's Space Marines.
>A shocking conclusion
>>568438221>Brainwashed immortal child soldiers in power armor are the baselineWhy do you care? Autoguns and lasguns are equally shit at penetrating +3 power armor that the basic bitch space marine comes with.Genestealer cults aren't that different, only their equipment is somehow even shittierBut at least they're the only faction that actually bangs
I have decided. I will jump in Sefoni's tank and have my way with her. She shouldn't have been blowing kisses at me in mortis trials if she didn't want this to happen.
>>568438609DreadAnon please stop, you're drunk
Warhammer is kinda like being in a gay club the primaries (faggots who suck cock and drink cum from used pozzed condoms) will make fun of you for being a secondary (straight guy hitting on the women who accompany their gay friends)
this poster hasn't seen grass for an entire year
>>568438741As long as there's water in Sefoni's tank, I haven't drunk enough.
>>568438832I literally wrote that right after mowing my lawn, you couldn't be further from the truth
>>568438761I see that some things never change.It was always kryptonite to the men of wo, if you wanted any prospects you never admitted to the hobby in public
>>568436904Fatshark is clearly pushing back though and clearly have the clout to squeeze a concession out of James. They're red instead of yellow. Even such a small thing like that is a win. DoW and all those decades of media since that time, AND the recent animations with yellow bolts, proved that using red was the superior choice given the general color pallete of the setting. Following the yellow bolts in recent animations against sandy evening yellow backgrounds is horrid, where red bolts would have stood out as they should. Still not as eyecatching as beams but it is again a win.
>>568437771The old IG art had las weaponry fire white-yellow bolts, presumably, since you'd only see the muzzle flash and impacts. The red beams I'm pretty sure came from DoW. In any case this is all easily handwaved by different patterns of las weaponry firing in whatever way a laser weapon can be made to fire. What bothers me is that they did a trailer for Darktide where the lasguns were firing bolts when the game versions fire beams. It makes me wonder if GW may pressure them to change it to be in line with current depictions.In real life though, actual energy weaponry isn't visible since the weaponised wavelengths aren't in the human visual spectrum unless a visual wavelength is deliberately emitted like a tracer round. A concentrated gamma beam would just about be the deadliest and most frightening weapon imaginable, you wouldn't see where the shots were coming from, you wouldn't hear anything, flesh would just combust and explode suddenly.
>>568438761Hey, I'm a primary with a wife and have a number of betrothed primary friends. Dadhammer is very real
>>568435815slavnigs and chinks are nonhumanoids it's impossible for them to understand what teamwork meansin competitive games they cheat the most, that should explain most things
>>568439287Trailers are passed through GW first. That means they approved of the red bolts in the trailer.
>>568439287>The old IG artMORE LIKE BEAMS OF PISS
>>568439640Yeah, and GW has changed its mind now. The lasers are yellow bolts now like they were like 25-30 years ago.You think they are not capable of changing their minds?
>>568439287>What bothers me is that they did a trailer for Darktide where the lasguns were firing bolts when the game versions fire beams. It makes me wonder if GW may pressure them to change it to be in line with current depictions.Look at what the servo skull fires. They were allowed to keep the existing lasguns red. But the little servoskull fires yellow las bolts
>Wake up>Rub sleepy eyes>Open 4chan>Laser colorfags are STILL goingIs there any word for this other than autism?
>>568437771You yesterday had a 8 hour long autistic as fuck meltdown over this inane, pointless dogshit change that means absolutely nothing at large.Go to fucking reddit or whatever "whore's galaxy" to cry about it.
>>568439868go eat breakfast first otherwise it can damage your mitochondria
>>568439868i said what i had to say yesterday. When I saw the OP today I laughed audibly. Not gonna go through it again. People have their opinions and there's no way you can change them. I just know my opinion is the best opinion.
>>568439709If it's a beam its good if its a ballistic bolt its shite
>>568439868>Is there any word for this other than autism?Being unemployed.
>>568439812>servo skull firesScrew the servoskull weapon I'm changing mine to Medicae ASAPIt's probably going to be on an auto revive on blitz cooldown, with maybe another talent point giving it corruption healing if you invest further in it
>>568439812It barely even makes sense, because it's firing a bolt that is CLEARLY travelling slower than light. If the idea was to copy star wars, then they're doing it badly because star wars blasters are firing plasma bolts.
>>568439949>pointless dogshit change that means absolutely nothing at large.It completely changes how IG battles look in video games. It's a big deal to the visually inclined. If you don't care then i suggest you ignore the conversation.
>>568440293>It completely changes how IG battles look in video gamesNo, the fuck it doesn't. Stop being autistic.
>>568440108Shut up mayfly
>>568439798Anon you seem to have a bit of trouble with time. Yellow bolt animations came out back then, Skittle trailer came out just now. Before, after.
>>568440409If you think this is autistic, actual autism would blow your mind. I am simply scratching the surface. Also you're blind.
>>568440409>Stop being autisticIt's not that easy, he was born that wayI bet he plays Ogryn
>>568440660i play all classes
>>568440409>asking a 40k fan (particularly an IG fan) to stop being autisticSecondary spottedLARP alert
>>568440807As I said, you play OgrynOnly Ogryn players are autistic enough to play all classes to more effectively tank and lead.Or put differently: A lot of people don't like playing an ugly character in video games. It's why most people in WoW play elves and humansThe horde is really the faction of elves at this point.Side tangent over
stop caring about things i don't care about!!!!!
>>568441070that's good to hear. I was afraid my autism had left me. Turns out I still got it :)
>>568441070most autistic post in this general
>>568441246Heavy is my favorite voice for him, I even tried to make him look like a Mercenary Ogre from Mordheim
I don't really care about bolts or beams cause I think they both look good but it's very funny that GW is hardcore coming down on beams for no reason whatsoeverSeeing this thread yesterday was blackpilling though, dozens of people saying Darktide has only ever had lasgun bolts. Turns out a lot of people will just adopt an opinion based on vibes and feelings, they dont even care about the subject matter at all but they'll still zealously fight over it. Not sure they even play Darktide
>>568441070>Only Ogryn players are autistic enough to play all classes to more effectively tank and lead.I hate that you're correct. I got all classes except Scum, just don't like them or care for the gameplay.Started Darktide with ogryn and 99% of 2200 hours is on ogryn.
>>568441886based, any special tip for the pickaxes? I feel like they all play the same
40k is a very particular kind of tismThe kind that makes you pick FUCKING CADIAN as your veteran voice like an assholeI hope the Skitarii will shit talk him
>>568441886Second favorite class behind Ogryn?
Seeing that this guy is the new class talent designer made me realize why all the DLC classes are so fucking uninspired, talent tree wise. Actual literal mouthbreather
>>568441070>Only Ogryn players are autistic enough to play all classes to more effectively tank and leadIs it autism if I played every class looking for one which I enjoyed and ended up landing on Arbites and Ogryn?
My Skitty wishlist:Green eyesFeminine voiceAnd extremely glitched out and hostile
>>568442410I just gave AI this image and asked it to tell me what that tooltip says>Weakness Analysis Doctrine>[crypto_afflicted_increased_damage]>+15% Damage for 8s on damaging an Electrocuted, Soulblazed, Burning, Bleeding, or Toxic afflicted enemy.This is what that guy sits there mouthbreathing for. Designing exciting talents like that. Each breath of air into his oral cavity gives him more halitosis and more ideas on how to make the most fucking dogshit uninspired boring +15% damage talents possible
so less crushers but more everything else are havocsissies enjoying this or what
how do you guys keep playing darktide with the same 3 missions
>playing flamestaff psyker in havoc>team is my buddy on stealth zealot, random vet with infiltrate for some reason, and rampage scumyou have no idea how abandoned I got in the final room of dark communion, I couldn't even be mad it was just hilarious. normally I can do alright when separated from the team but I was just plopped into the sea of crushers and elites coming from the sides while everyone zoomed off to objectives invisible or at lightspeed and won over my dead bodyunrelated but I reject every zealot player in havoc now no matter what
>>568442913i think it's more than 3 now
>>568442913Nice try Nurgle
>>568441557you think you can just come and and be... reasonable?
>>568442280It's a tie between arbites or psyker.>>568442087Branx is good with thrust and headtaker if you want to kill bosses fast. Same goes for elites. For branx the horde clear combo is accessed from the push attack which lets you do a diagonal heavy attack from the left going right, and then follow it up with 1 diagonal light attack that goes from right to left.Karsolas is good for crowd control when you put slaughterer and headtaker on it since the heavies for karsolas are just horizontals.Borovian I don't have much opinion because I don't really use it.But all of them do function well for killing all enemies, like hordes and elites.But I personally just like using the shield even if it has gotten a bit power crept, it's still my favorite.However with all ogryn weapons if you want to do well on them, you need to learn the tech for charging your heavy attacks during dodging and sliding so you can keep your momentum going.Also with ogryn you need to learn to conserve your stamina by not constantly running because both blocking and pushing with ogryn is very strong.Especially if you have the No Pushover talent, it lets you stagger everything around you throws everything onto the floor since all pushes and blocking works in a 360 radius around you.
>>568442778Could be worse, could be the retards over at GGG designing passives.
>>568442913>how do you guys keep playing darktide with the same 3 missionsAutism, but you also get used to it over time...
>>568443582What's GGG doing that's worse than 15% damage on (condition so easy it might as well be fully passive)? I haven't played PoE in a long ass time
>>568443803Big poe2 update on friday, friend.
>>568441557>Not sure they even play DarktideWell obviously, the only people who play Darktide here are Ogryn players, this is our swamp.
>>568442913we've become institutionalized
>>568442913I only care about gameplay. Levels, lore and objectives are whatever, it's faggot shit for nerds that hit the wall in skill level and need something else to fixate on to cope.
>>568443803>Alignment >30% more damage when you you pointn your ability in the same direction as an arrow pointsThere's also reduced attack speed nodes for two handers to deal increased damage and other such shit. They also pulled some shit where you needed to generate charges to use totems and they really leaned into the bender/spender playstyle. I'll still be playing the new POE2 league though, its f2p this weekend iirc so give it a try if you are interested.
Help im getting filtered by ragers
>>568445126Just push them
Post your Ogryn fashion
>>568445236ooooh
>>568445289>Hobomaxxing
>>568445126Bully them with impact (the stat that makes enemies get staggered). More impact => more staggerMore strength => more impact => more staggerBlunt weapons have higher base impactAlso when ragers start their attacks, they get stuck in animation for a long time. Also if you're caught with your pants and stamina down, it's ok to pull out a shotgun and start blasting
>>568443571>the shield even if it has gotten a bit power creptWhat's the meta weapon then? I thought spamming heavies with skullcrusher and intersparsing a shove ever one or two attacks was the optimal way to play. That and using the grenadier gauntlet with the brace node to regen toughness.>learn the tech for charging your heavy attacks during dodging and slidingWhat tech is this? So far I've been spamming heavy attacks and never get punished for it.
>>568440469The skittle trailer kept the existing lasguns reddish, likely as a compromise because it'd be too unreasonable forcing Fatshark to portray yellow las when the ingame is all red. Even then, the skitarii trailer bolts are all a far lighter, yellowish red than ingame or earlier trailers.Also, the servo skull minion fires straight yellow las bolts. I think it will do that ingame too
>>568445289Im too poor for fashion in this game :(
>>568447164with very few exceptions, the free cosmetics are the best ones in darktide anyway
>>568446352>What's the meta weapon then?Power maul currently is the best weapon for ogryn.You just need to remember to put Skullcrusher and Power Surge on it, you use power surge because it lets you apply 80% Skullcrusher onto everything in like a 10 meter radius
>>568446352>>568448064>What tech is this? So far I've been spamming heavy attacks and never get punished for it.Dodging is paramount in Darktide since it makes you invulnerable to all ranged attacks during dodging, which are ogryns biggest weakness.Also charging your heavy attacks during dodges and slides lets you keep up your attack chains better so you can keep fighting. Also helps you clear more room since ogryn has a passive ability where he pushes non-elite, non-special enemies out of his way during dodging. Which means you don't get as tangled on hordes.
>>568448064>you use power surge because it lets you apply 80% Skullcrusher onto everything in like a 10 meter radiusDamn that's pretty cool. I think I'll still be sticking to the shield and maybe try out the pickaxe.>>568448717Yeah I can charge heavies during slides but from how you said 'tech' I assumed it was something more complex.
>skit talent tree full of palceholder images for talents>one of them is sanicskitarii gotta go fast
>>568449637must be a foreign intern doing this, no way a fatshart dev got sovl
>>568449637Skibidi be zoomin'!
>>568449637Kek
>>568449637in competitive verm they would never allow this meme shit
How bad is it to go full curio health + these talents for havoc support? Works great on Auric, and looks like it does a decent job on sub-30 havoc. Blazing Piety, Chorus, the "normal" build, but a lot of health, and the huge damage reduction from Bleed for the Emperor. It's only 3 points, I'm sacrificing some damage like Anoint in Blood, Sustained Assault, but so far we have enough damage. I just can't stand the busters, holy shit I hate these shitbags on so many levels.
>>568452179In competitive verm they would pick this + the DR on zealot
>>568452179gunners will still shred through you
>>568452179It's what I main in 40, works fine, you just need max gunner resist. Keep in mind that you're still a toughness class, and still want to pick up toughness DR, especially the node on Chorus. You will sometimes have to pop Chorus defensively. Get used to sliding a lot more, too.Otherwise, it's actually very safe and bails you out of many fuck-ups as well as increasing your downed timer.Just don't take +5% health, that shit is a meme. If you're desperate for defenses, take bomber and flamer resist, though cdr and revive speed are just better anyway.
>>568432562except fatmangus isn't an RP build it's an actual meta build
>>568452841In competitive verm they use fatmangus builds all the time
>>568449637That fits the bill for this kind of phenotype>>568442410I used to go to high school with that type of nerd after all100% he paints his own mini's
>>568442410his mouth is closed, both new classes have been fire, and he listens to summoning. We're in good hands.
>>568453749>his mouth is closed, both new classes have been fire,two observable lies
>>568453882time to take those pills anon
>>568452368We're only now getting to 30, and so far gunners already shred the shit out of me, and not even the elites, I got x3 DR on curios and we manage to focus elites somewhat, but just the normal scab shooters because they're fucking everywhere and because we don't have vet because I'm basically the only one playing vet seriously>>568452736Thanks.
>>568454180it's literally open lolthe other point is subjective but you're probably a mouthbreather too if you think 30% of the talent tree being copypasted from other classes is "fire"
>>568452841sorry brother I was looking at vet builds
>>56845424815% toughness on dodge will save you against gunners oftenif you are struggling with havoc gunners, especially regular non-elite ones, have your psyker run shriek and prioritize tagging groups of them with it since 6 stacks of soulblaze will burn them to death and the rest of you can focus on other thingsalternatively an ogryn can AOE them with his ranged weapons but that's very ammo hungry without a pocket vet
>>568454515You realize that in competitive verm everyone picks the same talents anyways right?
>>568454515He just has big lips and didn't get the proper dental care to get his jaw pulled forward while younger.
>>568454576fair enough brother
>>568454515it's literally closed. You need glasses.
>>568454671>and didn't get the proper dental care to get his jaw pulled forward while younger.the number one cause of a receded jaw is mouthbreathing
>>568454576>Invincible VetI wish they were Invincible, unfortunately no build will save you from dying to bosses because you don't learn melee or how to hold down block when it's your turn
>>568447557Except those two packs they released I forget the name of>>568442913Because it’s more than 3
>>568455169He probably had allergies, they're quite common.Tree sex offends the gentle nords sensesWhy do you think they keep settling in inhospitable hellholes where nothing can grow?
>>568455182>kraks>no Out for Blood>no Shout>Stealth with no TDR>no full CDR on curiosEven for a Vet it's not even tough, let alone 'invincible'>Wep Spec revolver but without the keystone modifier that reloads itso retarded
>>568436904>>568439271Why are you looking for conspiracy in a badly animated, low effort in-house trailerFatshark can't even decide what the laser trail looks like. DoW2 had yellow lasers btw
>>568455739>conspiracyit's not a conspiracy, GW flat out stated that yellow piss bolts is canon now in multiple mediums. White dwarf magazine says it, official community posts straight up directly clarify the new canon and cement it, and all depictions past the release of that official canon post depict lasguns as bolts, and all BUT the darktide trailer bolts are piss yellowI think it looks cool. I also think you would have to be a blind retard to miss this change, though
>>568455739>looking for conspiracyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/Unfortunately it's just GWs latest blunder to try and attract fresh customers>Looks kids! We're just like starwars! But with space orks! Which automatically makes it better.
>>568439868It’s really incredible what people will argue over if they have the time and energy to.>>568441070Unrelated but man WoW just sucks.
>>568456470>>568436904How much do you wanna bet they're doing this because they want to release plastic nerf toy soldiers that shoot out plastic rods, and yellow pigment is cheaper than red pigment?
OMG niggers are you still going about the lasguns? Nothings gonna change about them in Darktide because fatshart are lazy and GW deems video games non canon anyway.Mentally ill fucks.
>>568456973Shush the skubguns are keeping the thread aliveIt's not like you have anything better to bitch about
>>568456973>Nothings gonna change about them in Darktide because fatshart are lazy and GW deems video games non canon anyway.is that why the skull shown in the trailer shoots piss bolts? this is what it's going to look like ingame and it'll look retarded
>>568457498Clearly that's an autogun
>>568457685Anon... there is no physical space on a servitor to house bulletsit's a lasgun. You can go watch the trailer, it makes lasgun sounds. And it has lagun impacts, not bullets on the shield. You mistaking it for an autogun is the exact problem with the new lasgun design
Interestingly the skitarii also shoot some sort of blue laser bolt. I'm not even sure which weapon they have would fire that
>>568433859And that’s a good thing>>568434902I watched that documentary too very interesting stuff
>>568452019What happened to versus anyway?>>568447557>with very few exceptionsThat exception is zealot, they knew that class would be a cash cowThe havoc set combined with the black expedition head looks pretty sweet on every base class
>>568458243Everything electric is coded blue. Most likely the galvanic rifle but it sure is a very anemic result to be putting into a trailer.
>>568458243>which weapon they have would fire thatThe giant revolver sniper that is going to be awkwardly slow Unless Skitarii just shit on convention due to their cybernetic enhancements and can just generally run faster than other classes.
>Warframe is too piss easy>SM2 has no mission variety>Helldivers 2 has too much boring transportation and not enough playstyle customization>L4D2 also has no customization>Far Far West is too early in EA>DRG and Vermintide have ridden their trains and departed>Darktide feels like its still in EA I hate this.
>>568457498>is that why the skull shown in the trailer shoots piss bolts?No, that's because the Payday 3 furfag gmod "animator" they've hired made them this way.
>>568459207>I hate this.Could be worse
>>568459138Is that a las weapon? I thought galvanic rifles are something different entirely, that they shoot bullets that have some sort of chemical/electric effect
>>568458243>>568458830galvanic rifles fire servo bullets, so I guess Im fine with it be depicted like that. The DoW2 rifles fire and leave a trail of smoke iirc. I dunno how arc rifles will work or have been previously depicted
>>568459513>Is that a las weapon?In 40k every weapon is a las weaponBolters shoot bolts of lightning, that's why they're called Bolters duh
>>568459727OG Dante was lit
>>568459546>>568459138I think this is meant to be the arc rifle then
>>568457924>You mistaking it for an autogun is the exact problem with the new lasgun design
>>568460047That is obviously the arc maul impacting with someones skullThey show you what equipment they haveI hope they get night vision
>>568460047And here's what I think is the phosphor blasterBased on this trailer I am 99% sure of the following>arc rifle is just a voidstrike staff>galvanic rifle is basically just a helbore, maybe without the chargeup that does some sort of debuff>phosphor blaster is just a bolt pistol reskin with burn added to the explosionThe melee weapons are even more obviously just power sword, force sword, shock maul reskinsIt'll of course all be overtuned and completely overshadow the things it's reskinning. But I can already tell this is going to be very lazy
>>568452736>toughness DR, especially the node on ChorusI don't know, 30% damage for everyone sounds huge. On the other side, beasts will usually almost die before the stunlock ends, while the captains will eat most of this bonus with their bubble. So maybe DR is really better.
>>568460429oh shit, we're already doomposting going off very little information and a mound of assumptions that will all prove completely wrong? we didn't even make it to the gameplay preview this time
>>568460257You're right, I thought that was a barrel but it's a mace being swungI guess this is the arc rifle shot then
>>568460663that is very obviously the mars pattern power sword cutting a man in halfthe arc rifle shots are featured early in the trailer after they disembark, galvanic kills the bulwarkI feel like maybe you're not qualified to be the one dissecting this trailer
>>568460654Wasn't the prediction template that people will say things look underpowered based on the preview, and no mention of how unique they are? I'm doing the opposite, I'm saying the things look copypasted but will probably be OP. Can't really shoehorn me into that template can you? Especially because this has been true for every DLC class so far
>>568460663It's blue :)
WARNING: this guy is a troll and is very clearly trying to bait you. If you aren't familiar with him then you might just assume that he is retarded, no, he's a troll AND a retard. He will continue for hours after you have btfo him>>568460429Fuck off and kill yourself
>>568460883No I apparently just can't see very well in the dark, no need to be a faggot about it I just wanted to talk about the trailer and weapons
>>568460883>he's a troll AND a retardThere's a difference?
>>568460429>wowie a gun is a gun and a sword is a sword??Ffs are we really gonna do this again, Sukhdeep?
>>568461080Why are they only adding swords and maces if there's halberds, spears, fist weapons, flails, chainglaives and all kinds of shit though? I know there's always going to be some overlap but there's no excusing the laziness
all me, i play all sides I've gone to a kebab and used shekels .
>>568461018Wtf are you talking about? I'm talking about this faggot here >>568460429His gimmick is going>sure X has a different appearance, stats, moveset and special, but it's obviously just a reskin of YHe's a stale, shitposting retard
>>568460520>30% damage for everyone sounds hugeIt's additive to all other +% damage modifiers so the math is less impressive. It's good, of course, but the DR is a bunch of borderline invulnerability. It's not the 1 boss you're worried about, it's the 3 bosses at the same time while a dozen gunners and 4+ mutants are on your ass.
>>568461308Both of these posts are me, I haven't even posted here for months. I am not poopdickschizo sorry
>>568461203If darktide was more popular in China they'd add glaives and spears really fastSword & Board and Maces sell in the westSpears are peasant weaponsAnd I can garauntee you that the Asians don't get a shit about 40ks lore, they're here because it looks sick as fuckPicture unrelated
>>568461485>I haven't even posted here for months.I never made this claim. You did the same shit during the hive scum release and then crawled back into your trannyhole
>>568461643Well if you say so, I hope you won't be disappointed when you don't get the expected meltdown out of me
>>568461203It's THE skitarii weapons they're adding. The same weapons that are on the plastic sprues. I'm surprised they've decided on transphobic blades, guess the taser goad would be boring and a duplicate of an arc maul in a way.Shame about the radium carbines but you'd be complaining they're basically IAGs anyway.>UGGHHH WHY THEY DON'T ADD A CUM GUN AND LET YOU SWING TURDSYou're dumb brown subanimal, fuck off with your obnoxious reductionism.
>>568462029That's his entire gimmick. You are falling for bait right now
>>568461308>>568462134Yeah lol, it's the same doomjeet, I'll stop engaing.
>>568462029Don't admech guys have stuff like halberds too though? Or can skitarii not use them? I remember seeing people talk about admech possibilities and there were a lot of cool shit like halberds, glaives, spears, even saw one concept with some sort of quarterstaff>>568462134Can you fuck off already? Just keep your poopdickschizo accusations to yourself. Just don't reply if you don't wanna talk about video games. Even the other guy with his weird brown spergout at least talks about the topic
>Check my teammates’ steam profiles while in the lobby>Polish, Russian, Ukrainian>Wipe in the first 5 minutes
>Oh boy we're going to get the literal infiltrator stealth Skitarii! That thing looks sick as fuck!>Make up Skitarii Alpha Primus insteadMy disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
>>568462604>>568462029Disregarding the mentally ill schizo paranoia meltdown, skitarii could totally have transonic halberds or chordclaws
>>568462669>>568462604Reminder to NOT reply to this doomjeet faggot he will waste your time for hours. It's all he doesaaaa
>>568462669you're such an idiot
>>568463157Rent free
Speaking of chordclaws.They actually have it peeking in the concept art, no guarantee it'll ever come out tho.
>>568463504Uh oh doomjeet melting so hard he had to spend 5 mins in mspaint
>>568463529I think since there's no deluxe skin, it means they won't have one. DLC classes don't seem to get any additional weapons. They did show a shot of an arbites using a shield + arbites maul combo which doesn't exist though, so maybe it's something to look forward to in a few years. I think the game needs a lot more weapon variety so it's kind of a shame they decided to put in yet another powersword over claws or a transonic halberd
>>568463157wait are you the same guy that spends hours calling everyone a jeet and a samefag in the sm2 thread?jajajajaja nice to see you again
>transonic halberdHe's still trying to bait.
>>568462626And you are..?
>>568464359If you don't want a halberd in DT you just have shit taste, nothing to do with bait
darktide has no polearms, skitarri gets added and it has no>taser goad like they're often shown with >arc lance which secutari can have but probably would be fine on a skitari for variety sake >all kinds of transonic weapons including chordclaws and whatever shape of blade is described in lore sometimes, including spears and glaives and halberds unrealized potential
>same bait now in lowercaseI'm sure someone will bite it this time, lil bro. Or you can just samefag it out.
>>568465480Nothing in the post is wrong
>>568465480Interesting that you'll keep replying whining about how only retards who got baited reply. Did you think about that?
26 days, 22 hours, and 5 minutes until skididdle, friends!
>>568461030Some of them have self awareness but most of them don’t these days>>568459727>>568460013Old 40knart is just peak sci fi sovl
>>568465206>unrealized potentialliterally every single 40k game desu with you
>>568459367wow the chinese are not pleasant looking is this a recruitment video or something
>>568455538Kek>>568456470Cool art at least>>568458428>What happened to versus anyway?Killed by thirdies and hackers
Learn to recognize the doomtroon schtick>every weapon is just a reskin even you can prove otherwise>every map is just metal corridors even you can prove otherwise>every talent is just copied even you can prove otherwiseDon't think for a second that he's looking for an honest discussion
>>568467049pretty much sums it up
>>568467049>for got an "if" and then i copied and pasted my mistake 2 more timesOopsie
>>568460429You forgot the Arc Rifle, which is just going to be a electro staff secondary fire.
>>568463529>They actually have it peeking in the concept art, no guarantee it'll ever come out tho.The chord claws won't be a weapon and are just a premium shop skin or a penance skin.
>>568467049I just want polearms, you can stop screeching
The 'Cord Claw
>>568467508'law on 'ick.
>>568467049>>every weapon is just a reskin even you can prove otherwiseTell us how a 4th shockmaul and a 7th power sword will be any different from the ones we have now?>>every map is just metal corridors even you can prove otherwiseNot wrong, since all Darktide maps are just metal corridors, but your options are "Do you want sand or snow with your metal corridors?">>every talent is just copied even you can prove otherwiseNot every talent but arbites does rip off from the ogryn tree heavily. Or are you going to pretend that Target the Weak isn't just Hard Knocks? Or how Weight of the Lex isn't just Beat Them Back? Or how Withering Fire is just Reloaded the Ready?
>>568467858You really wish you were smart enough to pull this bait off successfully
I'm new and I'm really enjoying playing the Arbiter. How am I supposed to kill the bosses? Should I run and shoot, or what? They two-shot me.
>>568468178You've just discovered Arbi's biggest weakness: having low boss damage.
>>568468178>They two-shot me.Start by dodging big attacks and blocking small attacks>how to killDepends on your weapon. The arbites maul with no shield can kill bosses pretty fast if you put relentless strikes on it and do heavy, light strikedown combos at them or if you're using the rashad combat axe heavy attacks
>>568467049>every new DoT is unoriginal because... it's a DoT>ok, what's your idea for an original donut steel DoT?>*crickets*I remember this classic from hiv cum times. Wasn't he trying to pull the same thing with the needler only for it to end up being the most original gun in DT?
>>568468546Might be. He's usually pretty obvious
>>568468178Your only option for good boss damage is the bolter, which also doubles as a decent special killing weapon
>>568468178let your teammates kill the boss for you ;)while you protect them from netters and snipers
>>568468178Put unyielding and Full Bore on your shotgun, and aim it at the weakspot. You didn't brick your build by forgetting Soulguilt, right?
>>568468546Cryo dot that slows enemies more and more with each stack and freezes them for a short duration when it hits max stacksAcid dot that changes enemy armor type where hit to infested, which can be good or bad depending on situation and requires critical thinking toxin was an uninspired copypaste of fire with better stats
>>568468873is up-to 16% weakspot damage really such a big deal?
>>568469024It's strength, which is a different mechanic altogether, and functionally a multiplicative damage modifier.Do you want to deal +16% more damage?
>>568469024it's weakspot STRENGTH which multiplies all other damage ups Fatshark is retarded and does not properly communicate this distinction
>>568468334>Soulguilt>>568468441>>568468762>>568468870>>568468873well im fucked, im using this guide https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f35c673-7c83-4bd1-9d77-a25d7b19984d/execution-order-nuncio-aquila-arbites
>>568469187>following some gameslantern slop that bricked the build by forgetting Soulguiltretard
>got to havoc 20-25 and started jobbingIs there any way to tell whether this is a skill issue on my part or my teammates being retarded?
>>568468947damn, those are actually kinda good ideas. If not a bit OP at first glance. Not sure if we have any freeze guns or freeze psykers in the lore.
>>568468947>no reply to this, just cricketsClassic
>>568454576that squad leader build has been a disaster for pub games, no field improv or demo team
>>568468546funny I remember it as him blowing your ass wide open with cool concepts and you just going>well um if u uhhh reduce it then its just like smite isnt it...kill yourself spastic
>>568469187Don't use that site's guides
>>568469476oof, spoke too soon
>>568469821the reply was in agreement so yeah the anon who made the initial "nobody can come up with anything cool" is being real quiet right now
>>568469923gotcha
>>568455739I think they contracted the top cutscene here to Janfron1.
>>568468947sent that freak flying nicely done
>>568469776there is nothing on youtube(or is way to old), there is to much infodo you recommend another site?
>>568468947>Cryo dot that slows enemies more and moreWe're not DRG, bub. Might as well suggest an inflation DoT where enemies just fly away.>Acid dot that changes enemy armor type where hit to infestedDo you even play the game? Jeez you're dumb.
>>568470342small dick energy reply, both of those would be good
if you reply you're fucking gay
>he's samefagging nowBloody benchod...
Nobody likes the middle keystone for Arbites. It's worse weapon specialist, and we already have that on vet. Replace it with a keystone that gives him +1 golden toughness, recharges on some condition.
>>568470271There is no good place for darktide builds. Your best bet is looking at multiple guides and hoping they have actual explanations for why they're taking what, and then make your own decisions.Most jewtubers are just clickbait faggots catering to their retarded audience who struggles in malice, and gameslantern guides are written by those very malicelets.Even many havoc guides are just clickbait garbage.>but what should I doYou git gud. Spoonfeeding builds is difficult here because some major sperg invariably has a multi-hour-long meltdown whenever someone posts truths, with proof, about not commonly known things.
>>568468947the query was DoT effects, and you provided two status effectshere are some actual distinct DoT effects>a DoT that only affects enemies while they are moving, meaning you have to kite them in order to get the effect, and they are safe while relatively static>a DoT that builds in power the more the enemy is damaged instead of building off stacked applications>a DoT that builds off duration maintained on the enemy instead of stacked applicationshope this helps
My headcanon is that the mouthbreathing chinlet class designer who puts sanic on talents browses this thread and he's the guy attacking every single post and calling it a "doomjeet" if they call any design bad
>>568471290You need to start adding a full stop at the end of the sentences and stop getting so asshurt when people call you a jeet. Your samefagging is way too obvious.
>>568470271You post your build here, and then people will say>[talent] instead of [other talent], why?>[Blessing] on that gun is useless, better on other marks>[Blessing] on that melee is bugged don't use it
>>568471290>headcanonAt least you acknowledge it>>568470105I forgot about that guy wonder what he’s doing these days
>>568471204Diversifying dots into status effects like that cryo/acid concept is good too though. No reason dots cant have additional cool effects. Like cryo freeze would be relevant on elites but still outright kill small enemies with frostburn
>>568472170He's working for fatshart, on Darktide specifically. That's why every trailer after beetus has characters with cartoony-twitchy animations or funny run cycles like it was made in GMod.
>>568442410>expecting the developers not to look like dweeby nerdsAlso both Arbites and Scum are kickass classes. Fatshark as a company may suck but if he's the one who gave us those classes then I like him.
>>568472419>diversifying apples into oranges is good becuze supports my agument saarlmao what a freak
>erm, akshully, I LIKED arbites and scum!no one believes youyou aren't even going to believe this after skitarii is out
>>568433672>Cooperative Games General>it's been 95% warhammer trannies for the past 12 monthsI don't get why you guys just don't make a Warhammer general. You have enough posters and enough games for it
>>568473307Fuck off splitfag
>>568471632meds
>>568473307We derive pleasure from friendslop shitters barging in here expecting their dick sucked only for them to get shat on."Nobody is stopping you from discussing the coop game you like, just like nobody is going to discuss it with you." is our motto.
>>568470271Just watch my stream.
>>568473307we like ALL co-op games here!except for sm2, helldivers 2, DRG, rouge core, vermintide 2, literally any new and upcoming releases, and anything that directly competes with darktide, and also darktide
>>568468178Shoot them in the face with your shotguns.>>568469187On the one hand, I appreciate somebody putting the shotpistol in their build. On the other, they do some stuff that I greatly dislike. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e1a7ac-363f-4e9c-a7d3-230509838ec5/aaa-3Here's what I'd probably run for the same blitz+ability+keystone+weapons build combo (personally, I prefer Forceful builds with the maul+shield, and I like running other stuff, like the Tac Axe, with Execution Order since the crit talent in EO kinda goes to waste on the maul+shield). High Voltage on shotpistol means you need to tell your dog to attack the boss while running Voltaic Mandibles. Alternatively, you can put No Respite or Pinpointing Target on it if you don't wanna do that. Main thing with curio perks is 3 ability regen and 2-3 gunner resist. The rest, you can experiment with. I like Ally Revive speed or Stamina Regen
>first few days it goes super quick>start reaching the bigger goals>slows down to a crawlI am nooticing
>>568459367ngl that seems like a good thing for him
Speaking of Arby, why did they decide to make Remote Det complete fucking trash?It doesn't knock down. It doesn't do damage. It only gets 2 charges and takes almost a minute per charge to refresh. What's the fucking point? I'd rather take non-replenishing grenades since they'll actually do something.
>>568475178Because not everyone plays on tryhard difficulties so the game is balanced around malice and heresy :)
>>568475178Too good on release so they had to snip its ballsack off
>>568475681kek I guess>>568475709Ah yes, I love me some>Do I fix the problem? No. I create opposite problem. Balance!
>>568475178It's perfectly fine and powerful in auric. It throws bosses around and very much does stagger things. It's just difficult to use, and they should've found a better way to implement it.
>>568474337Again, no full-stop. You're too obvious.
>>568475828>fine and powerfulVery much disagree. While staggering bosses out of actions can be useful, that's the only real benefit of the ability. Its stagger on mobs is pretty brief, and I don't feel the need as Arby to run even more stagger for elites/chaff.
>>568459367>want to make parents proud>join the military>for the glory of the motherland>be the dedicated toenail cutter for disgusting conscripts
>>568476758The only other options are>stun minewhich is useless in auric, and>impact nadeswhich are fine and good tooArbitrator just has weak blitzes unless you Lone Wolf them. At least with the remote det nerfs, you're no longer retarded for bringing a different blitz even with the dog.Remote det is still plenty useful in auric, if you aren't feeling it I assume you just aren't using it right. Most tards I see either never use it and then dump randomly both charges when I remind them of its existence by using it myself.
>>568475178>>568476758Its damage is fine - it also benefits from talent tree buffs so just use it after you juice up your damage.
>>568461530>peasant weaponsSpears have been the superior weapon for all of history.Swords are status symbols of cucked wannabe descendants of proper warriors, carried around like purses.
>>568473307That's the entire reason there was a HDG general. Posters here got outright hostile so they made their own general and took their ball over there, which caused more people to become hostile because they split to a place where they could actually talk about the game.
>>568476160there is no need to add a period when the end of the sentence is clearly communicatedI bet you even begin every paragraph with an indentation when you already put a gap between them
>>568477960This, HDG general (on the VG board) is full of only happy, polite, peaceful posters
>>568474994>whole life turned into a chink army PR stuntI bet you if we found this guy right now he's either killed himself or been dishonorably discharged.
>>568477540>using it rightIt just isn't that useful, anon. The main benefit is the recharge to it, but unless I really screw up my positioning, there's never really a situation that would be significantly improved by using RD. Arby isn't in peril engaging dense elite packs in melee, even with a low-impact weapon running Execution Order. And for managing screw-ups, the grenades and shock mines are both significantly better anyway. I get what you're saying, and I'll relent that it isn't totally useless, but it also doesn't feel like it has a proper place to me.>>568477727It did like 200 damage when I popped it. I've closed the game since, or I'd check how it does at full stacks. I'll have to look again when I'm back on it later, but for the moment, I have a hard time believing that damage grows substantially given the base.
>>568468947>toxin was an uninspired copypaste of fire with better statsTruth Nuke.
>>568478545>doesn't feel like it has a proper place to me.It's just decent supplemental damage and stagger that you get basically for free. Just use it when the dog has enemies around it and don't worry about it. It really is not that deep, it just deals decent damage.
Havoc isn't very fun when people keep rage quitting and leaving you with bots who are worthless. Its not like normal auric missions either where a random can join after. You're just stuck with a bot so all your time has been wasted cause some fag got their feelings upset. Once I get my penances done I'm not touching this mode again.
>>568479287Trench moment lol
>>568478925>It really is not that deepIt's really not that useful either
>>568477801>Spears have been the superior weapon for all of history.Not superior, just the cheapest.Since it's hell of a lot easier to outfit every person with a spear that has a relatively small tip made from metal, than giving every person a axe or a made or even a sword, which takes a fuck load of metal to make relatively speaking.Also spears were favored in history, because many people used spears to hunt animals and it was very common way to do it even during medieval times.So many people would have some sort of experience in how to use a spear effectively. Stabbing a human with a spear isn't that much different from stabbing a boar or a deer a spear.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>568478545>It did like 200 damage when I popped it. I've closed the game since, or I'd check how it does at full stacks. I'll have to look again when I'm back on it later, but for the moment, I have a hard time believing that damage grows substantially given the base.I'm pretty sure you can get epicenter damage to 300 with buffs from the tree, which is enough to outright kill poxwalkers in the smaller AOE and damage them in the larger. This is realistically more powerful than Shredders which usually take 2. I'm not saying its the worlds best grenade but it regenerates and is useful enough even in Havoc.
>>568471290I honestly think Badwin might be behind it. The guy left the forums (we don't know exactly why), yes, but he is still active on reddit. One anon posted a screenshot of that here.He is also has a pathological need to shill for Fatshark, which is very characteristic of the "doomjeet" anon who gets mad at the slightest hint of someone daring to call Fatshark lazy hacks. So the personality/behaviour fits.Only real issue is the way of typing, Badwin wasn't this shit talky on the forums. But there's a good and simple explanation for that. Badwin didn't shit talk on the forums or on reddit is purely because he knows he'd instantly get banned by the mods if he ever so approached to dropping a slur of some kind.
>>568480087Oh that's something. That does make them a bit more appealing, yeah. One thing I'd point out about shredders is that while 1 Shredder might not kill poxies, 2 will kill poxies as well as some weak elites/specials, plus you regenerate Vet nades faster than dog charges for the most part (assuming you run Demo as well).
>the doomtranny is now trying to pretend that anyone who calls him out might secretly be BawdinBro really thinks he's cooking up a masterful troll
