Kris truly is the Steven of Johto.

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>guaranteed specific Master Fair with 10k non-paid gems
I demand refund for players which wasted more gems on the previous gacha

>>568439298
I'm more annoyed about the free Holiday Lillie putting me at 4/5, let me get a candy back instead

>>568444934
You're just getting futureproofed for seasonal grid expansions.

I miss when tech units were just the best at everything instead of trying to make them more unique

I’m just glad that Ethan is an easy skip

>>568439298
>Already at 5/5
Cool thanks

>>568448378
>no Rebuff and can't debuff Atk/Sp.Atk like NC Blue
What's his purpose aside unga bunga and faster stats buffing?

>>568450565
Likely tailored for whatever inevitable Arc Electric unit they plan on dropping, which always have rebuff as the basis of their kit.

Either that or future Tower floors will just have so much health that you need all the zone extension you can get by using Ethan instead of Blue.

>>568450565
he's a wtz feeder support like Kris, bede, sonia, etc

>>568451749
Can’t wait for Arc Electric to be support

>>568439298
>first release banner I rolled for her (under pity gems) and never got her
>She's 3/5 right now

Debating whether to even bother to 5/5 her. She's still sort of mediocre and I hope there's another buff to her OR we get a new water support. She's a what, 4 year old unit? 5?

She's outclassed significantly for supports in
>current year

>>568455327
The fact that they're guaranteeing her here makes me think they've got a better unit in the tank (summer?) to replace her.

I want to SA Sabi

>>568457741
I'll do the same, sounds pretty fun to maximize her double sync as well
I wish she was rock instead though...

>>568455919
Which is why 10k non-paid gems is as lot. Basically half a month's gems for an outdated unit or a powerup for an outdated unit.

I do think you're on the money, we have the grass/water HSE coming up in July.
We might get a Water support and maybe a Grass Sp Atk Arc/NC to shill the HSE

>>568458384
I feel like ground needs more help than rock right now, but I have Brock so maybe that’s why I feel that way. Also since there hasn’t really been any techs worth candying since Red96 I got plenty of candy to spare for her so SA just feels right, and because she’s cute

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Ded gaem.

>>568459893
it's not fair...

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>>568459865
i actually skipped brock thinking we'd get sabi and rhyperior later haha
guess i'll get him on rerun if nothing new comes up

Oh great another physical ground pair from Sinnoh...

>>568459893
>Sleep, Unite, and Go get collabs with Horizons
>meanwhile Masters get....Johto
T-Thanks

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Soon

>>568461995
>mastersex gets irrelevant flops instead of irrelevant flops
oh the humanity

>>568462860
Liko is a sex goddess, you homo.

Male neo champions are always so cucked lmao
meanwhile all the female ones are still very relevant

>>568459893
Nobody cares about Liko

>>568429953
If you played SV you'd know why.

Kris...

>>568467047
Should've been from the remakes if she wanted to be treated with any form of respect

Yourself...

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Johtodev fighting the censorship!!!

Brandon is probably coming soon.
>3D model, voiced

>>568459893
>Pushing a dead show no one is watching

>EB with Fire, Electric weakness and Johto bonus
I wonder if Red 99 can brute force it

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>>568473153
Can’t wait to exploit that electric weakness with my Johto pairs

>>568425158
Ideally it should be SS2 Elesa + SS Iono to make a decent team with NC Ethan

>>568469276
Didn't he already have a 3D model?
Since the 5th anni.

>>568476259
Ethan is a support, retard kun.

>>568479002
I know?
>Ethan support
>Iono EX Field
>Elesa damage dealer and rebuff
I'm saying that both Elesa AND Piers are a bad side rate up, Elesa and Iono as the side rate up would have been better

>>568478640
Voiced now with more animations

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Region based on Germany fucking when?

>>568437841
Kris got cucked so hard LMAO

>>568488526
Really should’ve been Lyra and Kris, instead of spoon fed Ethan

sassy transgender gamergirls pretending kris is popular when even the remakes have replaced her

>>568491378
Don’t really care about Kris but seeing Ethan get an arc suit and then a NC a few months later is super lame. Just as bad as the Paldea pandering in my opinion

>>568473153
>wise entry x3
>def & sp.def damage mitigation / defensive base stats multiplied when no status
>def & sp.def damage mitigation / defensive base stats multiplied
>kris using aoe freeze
built for triple ho-oh team
and you have four (4) ho-oh pairs to make a team with

>>568492185
Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gen 3 and (pre-legends) Gen 6 have a limited cast to pick alts from and for so they will always look like they are being pandered when they happen, but in the end it's not as bad as forcing character alts when their region basic trainers haven't been released yet, happens with Paldea and Unova a lot.
Can be extended to the regions with NPC hell villain admins too.

wasabi's in the game now?

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>>568492795
should have been nc claire and karen to have something different for once

>>568492328
One of sidemon can use Sleep Powder so you probably want to give the tank Sleep Immunity if you aren't using Electric Terrain

>>568492185
A year is a few months later?

>>568499275
Yep

>>568499275
Urm aksually it hasn’t been a year since Arc Lugia

>>568496391
AS Silver has also Solar Team Status Immunity at 3/5, but I wouldn't candy him for just that.
>>568499387
I don't fully agree on the time between alts but I can agree on it being too much that both of them are 1% Fairs

I think that Lyra is more Gym battle focused while Ethan is more Tower focused

>>568500421
I feel like that would only be true if the tower restricts theme skills in the future. Like only protags or rivals etc

>>568501023
Neo Champion Klara would be amazing.

>>568507718
>Anything SwShit
>being amazing
Lol

>>568501023
At this rate Neo Champion Florian and Juliana are going to use Skeledirge and Meowscarada since they both already used multiple legendaries

do we have a gem count yet?

>>568501023
>all those rivals from Galar and Paldea
instant skips other than Taunie

Raifort is the first good Gengar.

I made someone else the leader of the gym, left, and uninstalled PoMas, goodbye friends

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My June prediction landed in the wrong game...

It was supposed to be Diantha's turn...

>ANOTHER Electric and Fire
>NC Calem is still ded
Shit update

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>>568437841
Cute exposed pits and legs Lyra and ancient snow cnnuy. Months like this is what we save our gems gems for, lads.

>>568521238
Fire desperately needed a new physical unit. Ethan seems like he is prepping for the physical unit that electric needs.

Raikou is another big damage amp. It's missing super effective next so I'm expecting whatever the next premium electric pair is will have it.

The japs costs us candies and gems we'll never get back because they couldn't help themselves from cheating.

>>568529646
It wasn't japs it was literally a chinese gym.

>>568530637
Look the same to me.

>>568530637
It was literally the japs. If it wasn't for Dena's incompetency in coding, there would not be anything for the other gooks to exploit.

Nobody cares about Diantha, but Ansha is sex.

>>568533227
Bro Ansha is just small Diantha.

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>>568533557
Not really.

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Pull her

Cynthia.

>>568541902
I don't like evil women.

>>568542028
She's not evil she's autistic.

>spend my good little piggy ticket
>get 2/5 Jacq

I HATE MALE PALDEANS

>>568545536
Why did you do it

>4 gengars
>zero of them are for Morty

Do they hate him?

>>568505098
I don't think that's necessary, his defensive trinkets already make it clear.
Though obviously both NCs will be good in both modes, and if the Electric AS covers his shortcomings (EX ET, Offensive debuffs) then it's all good.

>>568527289
>Raikou is another big damage amp.
lolwut

>>568552597
Reading is hard.

>>568553687
Its a support with regular terrain and useless johto circles.
Pokefair-tier
Huge dmg downgrade over nc blue

Is there info on which banners will be rerun this coming month? I think I saw absolutely-pm with an Arc silver pic, is he rerunning? I'm missing that guy and Arc Ethan too.

>>568554094
There's a strong possibility that you're retarded.

>>568555348
SS Kris with the NC event
Arezu and Hassel
NC Calem, NC Elio, SS Ethan on Masters day
And a select scout for the gauntlet

Is Physical Fire now on the same level as Special Electric, Special Water, Physical Rock, etc.?

>>568556267
It depends on the multiplier for Entei's b-move. He's gonna be BiS for gym challenge at the very least and fire is a very common weakness across every region.

>>568556090
Oh so no Arcs, thanks man.

>>568556267
Doesn't special electric have Red 96 which I don't think other types can match?

>>568555634
>t. professional retard

>>568556567
Post gym rank

>>568556446
I'm expecting it to realistically cap at x2, that would put her B move at 600~720 BP at most which would be fair considering that most 600+ BP moves are 1 use only.
>>568556484
Yes, but I think that they're still in the range when you consider the other components, so the whole thing as teams.
Comparing it to Physical rock, Red96 > AS Brock
But NC Blue < Anni Gloria
And SS Iono/Variety Hilbert < Perrin
At least, that's how I see it.

>gymslop

>>568530637
It's the japs that complained
>huooo not honoraburu win
who cares I'd rather have another run of gvg with tryhards doing weird shit to get top 8 than nothing at all

NC Ethan is the worst 1% pair since ~Arc Lance or so
or the Nemona MF

>>568563834
Johto men are just always bad

>>568563834
Ethan knows about the arc electric being physical and setting ex terrain

>>568566313
Still wont be worth using him, just run triple dps

>>568541902
I would if she had Pidgeot and was white
>>568533896
Ansha will 100% get my shekels

>>568533896
so who's her father/diantha's partner? I didn't finish ZA but I assume it's not stated.

I'm going to roll for Lyra, but I have a feeling we'll get an Arc in July. I only have 40k gems too which is worrying

>>568575603
you're right, they never say. diantha herself doesnt even appear

I don't think anybody said it yet, but Anni '24 Lillie is rerunning with the 30th year stuff
>>568575864
We'll probably get 2 arcs, be real

>>568575913
Given time skip of 5 years between XY and ZA, it's safe to assume she had her already by that point. It's a shame XY was never remade, it seems like the game that needed it the most due to all the cut content and lack of third version

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>>568437841
Have the models for masters been ripped yet? I want to study how they made the hair and hands to improve my Green model.

>>568579238
>inb4 "check the OP"
All of those links 404 and are dead.

Do you think the Tower update will add more cookies?
Who are you expecting/want to get one?

>>568579238
check models resource

>>568579614
I sure hope so
Give ultra chicken a strong cookie

>>568579238
https://discord.com/invite/gjeUNAxb5d

>>568575864
As someone who wants Lyra and Sabi, it’s gonna be a rough one

>/pmg/ claims unit is bad
then it's a guaranteed good investment
>/pmg/ claims unit is good and futureproof
then it's guaranteed gloria tier deadweight
it's a simple decision making method

>>568583156
Lyra's my priority. I was hoping this was going to be a skip month as I'm running low. I stopped doing the 2.5k pull as it's a scam.

I assume Entei, Green, and Arc Silver will be the best units for Fire now?

>>568579614
I'm sick of getting Gloria and Leon cookies. I don't even own base Leon

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>May grid update is one month from now
this is all so tiresome

>>568585192
Has being contrarian ever actually worked out for you?

>>568588998
I dunno about him but supports have always turned out good when /pmg/ shits on them at datamine

>>568587735
>20k gems
Gee, thanks.

>>568587735
>20k gems
Hopefully I get lucky with Lyra. Will definitely hold off anything else

I wonderi f it'll be possible to brutefor the Ethan EB with 98 Red and Blue

>>568591358
what was an actual top-tier support in the last 1-1,5 years besides Arc Korrina, Arc Silver, anni Gloria?

>>568591358
Everyone talking about Ethan is saying he's a sidegrade at best, not that he's shit.
The problem is that the game recently gave us NC Blue for free, so Ethan isn't very tempting to spend on.

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>>568588998
Yes, I didn't waste a minimum of 5 SA candies and candies on SS2 Elesa and SS Iono >ultimate special Electric team for example or to awaken Dahlia for Water, or SS Hilda for physical fire or SS Mina for whatever investment she was supposed to be or to awaken SS Roxie, Oleana, SS Skyla :^)

>>568580137
Thanks anon. It was helpful to see that I was overthinking it. Kind of wierd how the eyes are textured on instead of modeled like in most anime games today but cool how they manage to make the textures do most of the work.

>>568592824
Let's ignore /pmg/ and see what the chink sheet says
>Ultra 1
>Ultra 1, still sees consistent top use
>Ultra 1, outdone by NC Serena
>Great 2, best phys fire until Lyra
SS Mina is still decent but she was 3 years ago and was better then.
>Ultra 1, still best poison in slot
Oleana is a whiff sure
Skyla doesn't even have an SS

>>568592797
>Everyone talking about Ethan is saying he's a sidegrade at best,
right now he is a big downgrade from nc blue

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Realistically is there any other pokemon they could even give Kris?

>>568596695
Dunno, Togepi or something, who cares about Kris lmao

>>568596695
Someone from her PokeSpe team.

>>568597292
Meganium would make for a good pick then, potentially Mega

>>568596695
like every other playable MC, any pokemon that your average playthrough would have is fair game

>>568597931
Aside from Kalos, every player NC has had a legendary, but Johto has dipped into those too many times. And Arc Suits have avoided player characters aside from Ethan

>>568597793
Either way, unless EOS comes first, eventual Mix Johto pairs will have another round of starters, and I wouldn't bet on them having tera types or same base type tera types.

>>568598419
>Arc Suits for Johto
Silver's been done, as has Ethan. Lance is Johto/Kanto, but would they give it to Claire? Morty maybe?

Same with Kalos. It's either Diantha or Lysandre.

>>568596695
Unironically only Misty fits dinosaur suicune, unless they give it to some MC that doesn't deserve it.

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>>568598735
speaking of, what would mix do after this that doesnt repeat types? assuming they are still going to do starters and field pairs
i think only like, delphox has a type that hasnt been used (not counting charizard and venusaur cuz they have mix pairs already)

>>568599306
>unless they give it to some MC that doesn't deserve it

If that. Its gonna be on some seasonal or SS of a random paldean

>>568592109
>Arc Silver
That dude was definitely shat on on here

>>568599013
What criteria are you going off of?
There's more than 1 round of suits per region, Korrina got hers before Diantha did.

>>568601017
I know a lot of it was him being the first repeat and also so soon after Leon. Also I still don’t like his random buffs on hit but the individual pairs make up for that aspect.

>>568601026
Popularity as a character. Jasmine is another Johto possibility.

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2D Green
I hope she gets added and gets a sygna suit version.

>>568601017
The most annoying shit with this general is that we know for a fact that it's roughly the same 10-15 regulars. We know for a fact that they always shit on new units when we get a new datamine. Those same people will come back 6 months later pretending that they, or anyone else, never downplayed xyz. They'll be doing the same shit AGAIN come Anniversary if Arc Red drops with another Physical Pikachu.

>>568611783
I remember when I posted a screenshot of me testing Red96 for the first time and casually hitting a million damage and someone just hit me with the he’s not that impressive.

I don't think people know how circles work. Ya'll know that you get the same exact damage buff if you ran either Blue or Ethan right? Running 2 under Kanto is the same exact increase as 1 Kanto 1 Johto under both.

>>568601017
I don't think that necessarily was for meta reasons though. He was the first repeat type and the first non champion to get one. His inclusion did open the can of worms that led to Brock boogaloo. He was also the first to not actually use his ace and in his case something he ever actually owned. Outside of a meta lens it's still a stupid alt.

>>568601017
>That dude was definitely shat on on here
and rightfully so
but meta-wise any pair with -2 rebuffs + EX zone will be good
NC Ethan is dogshit in comparison

>>568613075
That's fine in a vacuum but you're ignoring the Master passives since Red and Blue are both Kanto units. Whatever Ethan brings has to be as good as Blue and also overcome that passive bump

>>568613075
Blue has
-2 rebuffs
Adrenaline 3
and is Kanto which is much better with Red96

5/5 Blue > 3/5 Blue > 5/5 Ethan

>>568613726
>>568614301
>+3 sync buff
>Head Start 2
>Debut: Team Sync Move Boost 3
>sets ET 5 times
>B-Move -1 sync +2 sp/phy up next
>1st S-Move: Team Physical Boost 2
>Earth-Shaking Roar
>Sets both offensive circles twice + extension

>>568614204
They have the same master passive lol

>>568614575
Actually correction, he has a better passive than Blue. He has the same passive as Red96.

>>568587735
why does Lillie look like she's dressed for winter

Isn't Blue better for Sp Atks and Ethan for Phys Atks?

I won't pull for Ethan so I have no horse in this race

>>568614928
He does both but leans more towards physical.

>>568614384
all crap compared to >>568614301
even just to -2 rebuffs alone
the physical boosts dont even matter as Red96 is purely special

>>568614710
>Actually correction, he has a better passive than Blue.
Wrong, he's not Kanto
so its worse

>>568614575
>>568614710
Read the entire passive, not just the first few words
Blue's
>The more allied sync pairs with the Kanto theme you have on your team, the higher these percentages are. (Each additional sync pair powers up moves by 10% and reduces damage by 3%. The maximum power-up is 30%, and the maximum damage reduction is 26%.)
Red's
>The more allied sync pairs with the Kanto theme you have on your team, the higher these percentages are. (Each additional sync pair powers up moves and sync moves by 15% and reduces damage by 3%. The maximum power-up is 50%, and the maximum damage reduction is 31%.)

Red and Blue each have the Kanto theme. Ethan does not. That means both Red won't get the increase, and either Blue or Ethan won't get their increase.

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>>568614928
Yeah pretty much. In my opinion though rebuff>circles. Also a lot of these arguments seem to bank on Arc electric being physical and giving ex terrain, so hopefully Ethanbros get their extremely expensive wish.

>>568615239
Your debuffer will be applying rebuffs for you in GvG. If we're talking specifically about electric tower it's not like Red96 isn't going to brute force the entire thing alone.

>>568615327
Yeah about that gym content…

>>568615519
If we're not taking any upcoming content into consideration there's no reason to pull for anything.

>>568615239
>rebuff >>> circles.
fixed

>>568615646
Kinda hasn’t been for a long time outside of tower. Not everyone is finished with it or whale on everything after all.

>Gym battles
>Current gym is dead, only 7-10 log in. Other 9 have been gone for more than a month.

Stop forcing MP shit in the game DeNa. You can't rely on randoms. I hope it becomes a dead game mode like that one years ago that you had to travel to nodes

>>568615837
Have you considered not being lazy and join one in top 500?

>>568616019
>Try to join one
>Request never gets accepted (week passes, I lose out on gems+coins)

even if arc electric will have EX zone - why would I bring NC Ethan?
the 3-rd would just be another dps with terrain - Florian or maybe SS2 Elesa

>>568615327
>Your debuffer will be applying rebuffs for you in GvG
how would they do that when 99% of players are in random gyms with no groomercord coms
at best you can get a stall team that applies poison and trap + Bertha, thats it
thinking your electric team will have free rebuffs pre-applied every time is silly

>>568617057
>be shitter
>project
tale as old as time

>>568617267
Ok sweatlord

>>568617368
>put square peg in square hole
>WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>SWEATY SWEATY BOY

The gymfags are getting uppity.

At this point I only pull pairs to make new teams to try out for fun. Gym is pointless to tryhard when you have to rely on others and everything else outside of tower is either brain dead easy or gimmick pair shit.

joining trooncord for top 500

>>568617947
you'll never be challenged by van darkholmes and being the master of his gym.

>>568618603
Tower is THE main gimmick pairs mode

>>568619075
I wouldn’t call status checks gimmicks, when I say that I mean more stuff like Noland, Leon, Wally UBs. If it’s a really shit type like fairy then yeah that’s a gimmick with all of them being just confusion bots. The rest of tower is just physical/special checks

>>568618663
Yeah, fuck them, Anonymous is legion!.
Just don't look up how hard 4chan is tracking users.

>>568619319
>I wouldn’t call status checks gimmicks
the phys/special dmg split is the main gimmick check
You literally cannot progress at all without the right dps (often at 3/5)

>Noland, Leon, Wally UBs.
by now all UBs are old and can be bruteforced pretty easily, ignoring or semi-ignoring their conditions
Except maybe Noland
even back then, the conditions were generally pretty simple to fulfill and didnt hard-require specific pairs
Even on release every UB could be off-typed right away
Tower is a much harsher roster check than any other mode

Wait until these anons find out that 4 of the top guilds are /pmg/ guilds and it's just them crying about being afraid of other people.

>>568619758
I get that but that’s not a gimmick, it’s a whale check. I couldn’t think of the other UBs like the hair/ice zone one, but the point was you can’t just bring a team to test stuff out with in certain UBs because of said gimmick. Compared to tower (at least for me) where I can just test a team on stage 30 for fun.

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>>568615837
>a dead game mode like that one years ago that you had to travel to nodes

jesus christ that was a deep memory unlocked. what the fuck were they thinking with those events

>>568619787
Don't see Hazard Hall anywhere in the top 100

>>568621926
pretty sure all they do is shitpost on /vp/ for attention

>>568622474
That's just one guy not even in there

>>568622474
They're often here though not /vp/. Tbf I don't go to /vp/

>>568592824
How is not falling for SA scam being a contrarian?I think that should be the norm.

I’m glad I didn’t SA that water hag and got to use a team of cute young girls instead.

I'm glad we're moving better than last month

Hazard Hall LOVE

>>568615837
I like the node one better than the coin gacha box one. And I like it better than the current one too since I can ignore crap I don't need so it doesn't clog my inventory. The game gives you way too many level up books for even a new player.

>>568468368
Lyra looks really cute in her NC outfit, I can't help but want to roll for her

>>568468368
Green should be in masters too.

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>>568459893
Liko got into Green's second game.
Why do people get so mad about me wanting to go through more games with my waifu? She's my partner in everything.

Is anyone doing the Kris scout or does everyone already have her?

https://x.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/2060194559817031868?s=20

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Hey kids, member Paldea?

>>568651817
I can't forget about it because you have to bitch and moan about it on a daily basis.

>>568651743
Hey let's becoming Neo Champions and make Kris watch!

>>568650065
I already have her 3/5 and her 4 and 5 nodes aren't that big a deal right now so I'm good.

>>568648701
Show us your Leaf collection, bro.

>>568651817
I'd think they just threw her in there just so she can say that Entei and Raikou look a lot like Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt

>>568650065
3/5, and I know it's b8 for a new water support before HSE.

>>568642667
They need to trim the fat like how they did with the spheres. It's not like the level up books are what hold up people, if its anything it's the slabs/books (141-180) and the 181+ crystals.

>>568651817
Hmmm no, sweaty, Gen 9 Paldea and Kalos did the "remember Johto?" first with tons of Johto forms, crossgen evos, megas and starters following Gen 8 Sinnoh forms and cross gen evos.

>>568650065
I have her 5/5 bro..

>>568463683
NC Hilbert is mandatory on Ice teams

I wanted to invest into AS Silver but good lord his grid sucks ass and you have to go to 5/5 for the weather extension.

So for this month pull priority is Lyra >>>>>>>>>>>>> Raifort > Ethan >>>>>>>>>>> Sabi?

>>568659594
For me it's Lyra > Sabi and who are the other two again?

>>568659594
Lyra > Ethan > Sabi >>>> Raifort

I didn't even realize that they were rerunning the anni Lillie freebie. Even without a new Lillie this is Lillie month.

>>568662181
There's 2 free Lillies in fact, what a loose slut

>>568662470
Just the way I like her

We need more paid Lusamines to go with our freee Lillies

Ethan
1 base unit
1 variety
1 masterfair sygna suit
1 arc suit
1 masterfair neo champion

Lucas
1 base unit
1 variety
1 mix unit

>>568674652
ones competiton is Dawn and Cynthia
the others is ... Kris, Lyra, Lance
..............

>>568676315
>ones competiton is Dawn and Cynthia
also Rei

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>dawn but better in every way
>gets nothing

>>568679646
She'll get Arceus

>>568674652
>Hisiuian Lucas already has an alt/academy unit.
>Akari has now a lodge unit and prob alt soon (NC/Arc?)

Akari would never get Arceus because Arceus hates women

>>568437841
When I say Liko, you say KINO!

LIKO!

>>568689645
Liko didn't want Masters in her show so she can't be talked about here no more.

>>568688708
Arceus IS a woman as per GF canon

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Green > everyone else
>>568652228
who the hell is leaf?

Will the third anni Lillie get Necrozma?

>>568676315
They really should just do a Clair vs Karen event. Those two are pretty overlooked as far as Johto content, despite being among the most memorable characters.

>>568697624
Green collection, my bad.

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I saw people talking about master passives yesterday and was confused why people were arguing that Blue activates Reds.

>>568703747
Sanqa event confirmed

>>568711535
Both are kanto and both passives have different names so they both get stronger together
This didn't happen with SST Red and NC Blue, because they have the same passive iirc.

Can that bum Brendan get a Masters day expansion in July?

>>568723307
his mega evolution was his expansion

>>568724865
Kinda weird they gave Mudkip an expansion though

>>568727101
because mudkip could mega evolve already before expansions were a thing

>>568717465
Kris activates Ethan's.

>>568728368
You need to run hilbert for ex zone and super effective.

Really sucks not having an updated pomatools anymore, I just want to look at damage calcs for new pairs every once in awhile

>>568723307
A Gym Cookie could easily give him that classic CS like passive plus built in Dauntless and maybe No Quarter or Haymaker alike passive.
Consider there aren't many 5* candidates yet in Hoenn for Gym Cookie, May might get one on her alts rather than another cookie for her Swampert but this didn't stop Red from having 3 custom cookies so who knows.
If I had to pick 5 or 6 characters I'd go with:
- Steven (CS passive plus SCD and -2 Defense debuffs or +1 Phys Up Next after each successful hit)
- SS Steven (CS passive + Brainpower + Unfortuitous 9)
- A Steven (CS passive + Fortuitous 9 or Phys Up Next + Flying Zone Extension 3-5)

- Brendan (Dauntless + CS effect + Grassy Terrain on sync or Defense Destroyer 9)
- SS Brendan (Dragon Zone and Dragon Zone Extension 3-5 + team random stat up +2 each successful attack)

- Wallace (AOE trapping + CS effect + Shifty Strike or Hype Up 9)

- Phoebe (SCD + Burn or Confusion upon attacking a foe + Catalytic Cure)

- SS May (CS effect + Staggering)
- A May (CS effect + Discombobulate 9 or Accuracy -2 upon attack or Shifty Strike 9 + Endure or HP heal when >=50%)

>>568729440
and throw a bone to that disastrous freebie legendary Zinnia
> Zinnia (Impervious or Furious Brain or Brainpower + CS effect + Propulsion 2 or Sharp Entry 3 + First Aid 4)

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>>568438095
I saw even japs making that joke but I can't recall which Anni you guys are referring to

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>>568730721

>>568729030
poomatools.site has a damage calc and is updated, never used that function though
>>568729440
I feel like Gym cookies aren't going to deviate much from Sync Bonus Boost + CS2/Vigilance + Skill so if he gets one, the third skill is probably Dauntless or No Quarter. That doesn't really cover all his problems like how slowly he buffs his own speed or being reliant on Sun for extra damage.
In my opinion for the Hoenn Gym challenge, if it happens sooner rather than later, I'm expecting the characters to be
>One general pool
Courtney
>One Pokefair
SS Wally
>The legendary adventure character
Zinnia, third skill is Impervious
>A 1% character
AS Steven
>A recently added one
NC May or NC Brendan (they're the most recent premium characters for Hoenn, grim)

>this didn't stop Red from having 3 custom cookies so who knows
I think he only has two though, the custom tower cookie and the CHARIZAAAAARD event one. Are you counting the generic tower cookie too?

>>568731849
Couldn't remember the name of this version so thanks anon. It moves a lot faster than I remember at least. I liked seeing the raw damage number on the old pomatools but can't find it here, but this is good enough as a reference.

>>568711535
>>568717465
Right, EX Master passives are all unique because even though they start the same, they're tacked on top of another skill. Red96 is
>Powers up the moves and sync moves of all allied sync pairs by 20%. Reduces attack move and sync move damage taken by all allied sync pairs by 25%. The more allied sync pairs with the Kanto theme you have on your team, the higher these percentages are. (Each additional sync pair powers up moves and sync moves by 15% and reduces damage by 3%. The maximum power-up is 50%, and the maximum damage reduction is 31%.) Increases the user's Special Moves Next effect by two ranks after using its sync move.
Which is the buffs on top of S-Move: Special Boost 2.

So it's fairly easy to make every EX Master passive unique. But the regular regional Master passives eventually overlap when there's only so many to go around (Flag Bearer, Pride, Spirit). To date there's only been a few type overlaps though
>Hoenn Pride: Maxie and NC Brendan
>Hoenn Spirit: Archie and NC May
>Kanto Flag Bearer: NC Blue and SST Red

>>568735427
Arc passives are in the same boat as Master passives, so there's also the overlap with Leon-Silver and Ethan-Blue
NC Lyra will be an upgrade for Fire teams even on that front

>>568735427
And to add to that, the name is also important
NC Lyra and NC Ethan have the exact same passive, down to the side effect 1st S-Move: Sync Buff UP 1, but because they have different names they should still stack.
Not like you'd ever use them together though

>>568688708
If Arceus hates women then why did he bless a relatively unpopular female gym leader with an arc?

Still 2 more resets until new content

I will pull Ethan because I like Raikou.

Anabel should have gotten Raikou like we all wanted

>>568748496
Who is we all? The voices in your head do not count.

We're about 2 years off from uppity fetuses celebrating XY as the greatest pokemon games ever made.

>>568492795
They haven't even added Blue's big sister yet.

>>568596695
Shiny Gyarados?

Arc Diantha and Rosa next month. Then Arc Red for anni so they can replace the login art with one where everyone has arcsuits

>>568740518
4 more until people can get the pair they actually want to pull

>arc Diantha
Lmfao

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>>568761808
Big if true!

>>568763370
What is this supposed to be mean?

>>568723307
I know they’re just doing them because they started awhile back, but these expansion for old general pool characters have changed nothing. They still won’t be used outside of CS, especially since they refuse to give them role cake expansions as well

>>568674652
does anyone actually care about flopcas though

What side pokefairs are in the new banners?

>>568748496
I wanted her in her Battle Frontier outfit....

Is Lyra a Fire strike physical?

Who do you think will get a summer alt this year?

>>568779373
Yee

>>568779412
Lillie and Lusamine

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Damn it’s that dead, huh

>>568779501
Cool. Might roll if I wasn't broke.

>>568774280
They just had to release the upgraded Platinum designs.

>>568780914
WHERE DID IT GO??

>>568780914
20k apologems. How dare they.

>>568780914
Im assuming that the update wasn't actually supposed to be this late and they had to change a bunch of shit to remove the gym battle so the normal scheduled changes got fucked up.

>>568784828
Gym battle have been tied to AS release so far, I wonder if the Jotho NCs were supposed to be the July content

>>568787074
I doubt it, we got the Alola NCs around this time last year

>>568787074
Gym battles are most likely a bimonthly thing not tied to anything specific. But they will base the types on what is coming for the month.

Next gym battle is probably Jotho themed

>>568780914
booted it up and noticed that

>piggy for the daily streak bundle
>Get 1/5 SS L**f
eh, theoreticlally OK for the next even as she's grass but at 1/5 she's useless.

Are you pulling for Lyra?

yes

no

Maybe

Perhaps, I'm broke

>>568798321
>Are you pulling for Lyra?
I have 200k gems and i will keep skipping

I miss galar shilling

Yes, I've never regretted pulling on feMC in cute little dresses they're safe investment

I want Z-A shilling....

>>568808398
Maybe in August

Volo dies during anni and then the ZA arc starts

>>568798321
Yep, she's cute and unironically the only pair worth pulling

Who is rolling Ethan tonight?

let the shit die

>>568829613
Gayfags, I guess.

>>568830074
Welcome back doomer anon, haven’t seen you in awhile

>>568833214
Kris will get an up to par pair one day, right?

>>568798321
>pulling for Kris' ugly replacement from the demake
Pass

>>568834490
She's definitely the improvement, but that's not Kris' fault