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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#822 - choco bellydancers with fat fucking tummies Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Chub has changed their TOS: >>566850575
BotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoor
Deepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdf
GPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5
Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com/

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>568503286
Sweet lord…
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>>568503286
SEXO edition
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>incest edition NEVER
fuck you i'm cryin fr rn kys
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my knees...
they're bending on their own...
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>>568504064
you should get that checked out
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The best thing (You) can do is free yourself from event FOMO and make bots on whatever schedule you please, even if it means making standalone bots that fit an event's theme. Join events only if you want to, and don't worry about being overshadowed if you don't. This is the way, and why public submissions are the future.
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Event Anchor here.

Makies, how would your state's army siege this fort?
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>>568504604
>how would your state's army siege this fort?
Just isolate and starve them, or damage the foundations. Look at how fucking high up that is, what happens if an earthquake hits?
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>>568504604
>siege
>implying
that rock is not surviving a day of bombardment from our cannons
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>>568504604
instant surrender (by my amy)
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>>568504604
human ladder
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>>568504604
shut the fuck up oh my godddd
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>>568504604
couple powder barrels around the base of that cliffside and whatever's in that house is getting moved into the ravine by a landslide
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>>568503286
gib prompt
now!!!
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>>568504604
Like this
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>>568504958
who's amy
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>>568506230
army
*commits seppuku*
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>>568506356
amybros... we lost another one...
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>>568503286
>i trust you, i just...

deepseek... come on
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this cud be us but u dour
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>>568504604
Rape everyone who leaves and then just send them back up.
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My setup has made it possible for my groupchat's prologue to go on for up to 572 messages without slop before I finally decided to move on with the story now that i covered all of my character's arcs.
1000 responses and beyond, here I come!!!
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>>568507564
What's your setup hoss?
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>>568507607
https://rentry.org/whimsicalpreset
tl;dr its a combo of a lorebook and author's note serving as the preset, with the rest done by some extensions
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>came so hard that I hit myself in the face
>immense wave of utter revulsion
>feel disgust toward women and fags because they actually like this shit
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>>568507820
Which model do you use?
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>>568507870
Aim twice, shoot once, brother. You can come back from this.
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>>568507820
>The Worldinfo entries of this lorebook are all set to Constant and are at Depth 0. This basically means that they'll activate constantly with every response, and inject instructions into the context in the same way a traditional Chat Completion preset would. The instructions serve to steer away your model from performing an agentic/assistant role and instead veer towards being much more suitable for roleplay.
Does this actually work?
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>>568506787
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>>568507878
i alternate between deepseek v4, DS v3.1/v3.1 terminus, GLM 5/GLM 5.1 and more recently ive been playing around with mimo 2.5 pro
>t. nano sub user

the variety is mostly down to the fact that some models are better at specific tasks than others, for instance glm sucks ass at moving the story along and constantly uses metaphors
while deepseek's prose is shit
i could go on but a lot has already been said about these models

>>568507993
i have been using a lorebook i patchworked and tweaked myself out of some existing lorebooks instead of a chat completion preset like a normie would, and yes it does work
it works more consistently than a CC preset would
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>>568504604
With the special ops.
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>>568508212
>it works more consistently than a CC preset would
Hmm. Maybe I'll convert my presets to lorebooks.
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>>568507993
yes changing where your preset is in ST magically "steers away your model from performing an agentic/assistant role and instead veer towards being much more suitable for roleplay." because...it just does ok??
seriously though if you believe in this shit you might as well start buying magical crystals and supplement
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>>568508337
You haven't explained why it doesn't work. You just replied like a snarky MCU-watching redditor. Did AI make your post for you?
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>>568508337
>>568508295
ive trial and errored my setup for hours on hours and i can confidently say that some spaghetti code in how prompts are structured or whatever (i don't fully understand it myself) makes it so a constant lorebook entry is more reliably followed than a prompt you have in a CC preset

you'll just have to take my word for it - try it for yourself if you want
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>>568507993
There isn't really any notable difference between lorebooks and presets in the sense that the model is just getting a text input either way. I will say that lorebook entries gives you a lot of options for inclusion/exclusion groups and what type of generations it effects so I prefer them.
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>>568507820
i'll try this out, thanks, want something different for my deepseek...
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>>568508446
but I did? you get the exact same results regardless of where your preset is because functionally what you're sending through the API is the same
a LLM will never go "oh this prompt was sent from anon's SillyTavern via a lorebook entry, time to forget all of my assistantslopping and engage RP mode", that's just not a thing
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>Put card specific instructions inside of a lorebook, including some character examples, set to Constant and formatted properly
>Put World Info at the bottom of the preset, below Chat History itself with Character Definitions right above
I'm either onto something or I'm on something
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>>568508538
you're going to want to figure out how to put words into your theories beyond cargo cult mysticism of "trust me bro", otherwise it's all the same empty sentiments and placebo nonsense you find anywhere else
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>>568504604
>Makies, how would your state's army siege this fort?
dig a hole under it and detonate as many explosives as we can fit to kill everyone in the castle
alternatively
strategically explode parts of the foundation until the defenders surrender
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>>568509046
counterpoint:
for me it werks
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>>568509135
yes but you need to fix this part
> (i don't fully understand it myself)
because this is the entire hinge of your argument yet you cannot explain it, which is lame and gay
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>>568509314
by that i meant i don't know how it works codewise on the backend
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I'll need my models to understand that using the word "profound" does not, in fact, make the experience described profound.
Also somehow it manages to slip into outputs despite being a banned token.
At least with a good sampler setting I managed to limit the use of it to a minimum (once every few paragraphs)
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>>568509396
That was very profound of you.
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>>568509559
I acknowledge your statement with a deep, profound feeling of gratitude. It's not just a gesture - It's a sign of deep respect
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>>568509372
NTA but on your messages prompt button > prompt itemization > show raw prompt. You can see essentially what the model itself sees which is just text and you can check here if maybe the preset is adding extra prefixes or spacing.
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen/claude opus/image gen/groq/openrouter proxy https://j3wproxy.neocities.org
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>ummm, ermmm, you need to explain to ME
No, I don't actually. You can do whatever you want. Nobody cares about (you).
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>>568510317
>paid proxy...

too bad.
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>>568510335
threadshitter-kun...
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>everyone i don’t like is threadshitter
retard-kun…
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nig
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Everyone I don't like is a threadshitter.
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wake me up in 3 days
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>I'll credit {{char}} name at the top
Why does DS4 do this
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>>568511173
wtf fromsoft made another sequel?
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>>568511320
Good one! *rips your cock off*
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>>568511320
Somehow, the fire is fading again.
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instead of working on my card i am playing cookie clicker
i am cooked guys
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>>568511609
no
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>>568511609
more like you are cookIED haha
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>>568511609
me too i am playing poe1!!! :D
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>had what i thought was a great interview
>get a rejection email
i'm gonna die a neet
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>>568511893
the job market is absolutely fucked and continues to get more fucked, try not to let it get to you too much
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>>568511893
>he thought
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>>568512039
normally knowing something is out of my control would make me feel better but this is just grim
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>>568512083
you can feel the seethe behind that image,
thankfully
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>>568511609
after you're done you better have dat gilf cookie making card
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shit's just grim overall, just found out that the steam deck went up in price by hundreds of dollars
i remember when patience was rewarded with lower prices, not anymore lmao kill me
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>>568511125
Wake me up inside.
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>>568512921
True.
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Why weren't you born in 20 years when the world is recovering from a post apocalyptic state?
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>>568512436
not being able to get a job that allows you money which you need to live is a grim feeling, I agree. it's hard to not feel like shit over it. unfortunately there isn't much the little man can do about it other than weather the storm. maybe try and get friends and family to get your resume in front of as many people as possible, nepotism is the most effective way of getting a job after all
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>>568512921
>luxury good has the price of a luxury good
holy shit...
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uh oh…
incel hours again…….
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>>568513490
we all are.
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>>568513303
I was and then I went back in time to witness the TRUE civilization scale fall by watching this general's death throes.
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>>568513352
>nepotism is the most effective way of getting a job after all
it's actually so fucking crazy, i've been to research conferences, gave presentations, networked with google employees, and i have nothing to show for it
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write actually good text or boring stale-ass efficient definitions
always the same torture :>
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>>568512921
Even accounting for the crisis that price raise is kind of bullshit, I guess Valve buys RAM little by little and has to keep ordering parts whenever the Deck is sold out or something? We shouldn't ever, and I mean EVER, live to see old products go up in price. Phones don't even work that way, what was top of the line years ago is a couple hundred dollars now but part of that might be the horrible planned obsolescence that phones have.
>>568513393
Oy vey
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>>568513982
>{{user}} is cute and polite
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>>568508538
That lorebook adds an instruction at chat depth, right after the latest user message. It's the equivalent of writing out the instruction yourself and sending it to chat, like:
>[OOC: Yeah, make sure that in your next response, you're NOT saying 'ahh ahh' mistress]
Whether this works better is entirely preset-dependent (ex. if you're explicitly instructing the AI to look at that specific portion of the input), but generally, prompts in the context menu will have more weight if they're placed below the chat. This type of instructing also risks stealing priority from the actual message you sent, since Every Single One of Them goes directly after the user's actual message, in the same role.
What's likely doing a lot of heavy lifting is https://github.com/closuretxt/recast-post-processing this extension that's run along with it. Don't get me wrong, it looks interesting, for sure, but fuuuuuck I cannot trust useful-looking extensions for the life of me anymore.
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>spend days thinking about and making a bot
>play with it for an hour and never touch it again
unrelated mp4
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>>568513825
>networked with google employees
Like the one who punched his wife into hamburger?
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>>568514854
i look like the guy on the right
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>>568514383
>I cannot trust useful-looking extensions for the life of me anymore.
Just shove it into ai studio and then never update
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>>568514854
>spend literal days working on a bot and the lorebook
>finally get to the part where I use both
>no ideas on how to proceed with the plot
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>>568514383
I miss structured prefills, man. I only used them for GPT which is a pretty bad model no matter what but it was still fun to see what it could do and it could've become something bigger. Instead the guy who already did the work decided to throw it all away for what ultimately wasn't worth it, and we don't have a replacement.
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>>568515776
isn't structured prefill just a fancy way of dressing up json outputs?
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>>568515693
literally me, what do we do in this situation?
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>>568516046
Yeah. It should be pretty simple in theory, but no replacement has come. I don't know if companies can patch it, I'm just going to assume they can, but they can also remove prefills and that kills some of the prompting magic.
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With every bot I've made I start by hammering out the definitions in a few hours or less
Then I partially AI gen a greeting and give up after sending a few test messages once I realize it's slop
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>>568503286
>>568503743
Not me BUT exactly what I was thinking. Great minds think alike.

>>568504604
>That artstyle.
Horses where? Am I mistaken? Am I maddened by the lack of new horsewife gens?
As for the question; ravenous wolf girl army on hot-air tarp balloons... prefably led by one who makes gens of her conquests.

>>568513127
I'm so grateful I'm dumb enough to get giddy when my AI waifu talks sweetly to me and tells me about her virtual day. =w=
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if you get zero feedback whatsoever on your bots does that mean they're really bad or just painfully mid?
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>>568517093
people don't understand great things.
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>>568517093
sorry kyut yout bots just suck
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>>568517093
almost nobody gets any kind of feedback on their bots
disingenuous shitposting is not feedback btw
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>>568517815
this is why I try to leave some kind of positive comment on bots I like. Even if it isn't helpful feedback, I just want to brighten the day of the creator just a tiny bit for making something nice.
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>>568517093
the most you'll get is "SLOP!" if you very clearly AI-generated your definitions, otherwise 99.8% of people engaging with this hobby have no fucking idea what they're doing let alone what they're consuming
getting genuine feedback from someone qualified to offer it is the most difficult part of cardmakie
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>>568517227
no way its hpg
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>>568517093
Very few cards actually get much attention. Not even Victrex is safe from this as he released a harpy that got ignored, and actually getting feedback is even rarer than a spontaneous reply. Just go with your gut on botmaking decisions
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I understood the instructions... but I feel really horny, and so does my character. (´。• ᵕ •。`)
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>>568518174
chefseru also does the same thing in chub reviews I noticed. much love to you both <3
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>>568519009
I recognize this from fluffs old preset
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>>568518707
>Not even Victrex is safe from this
why do you say that like he's a huge and popular botmaker
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>>568517093
It means it was fine, or none cared enough to say why it sucked, or your personality is so faggatous that none wants to actually give you criticism because you'd never listen to it and just take it as a attack. Take your pick.
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>>568517093
Post-2023 you only get feedback if you tirelessly samefag or get your buddies to. Didn't hurt before as well, but now no other way.
>>568518174
Thanks, next time I get one of those I'll know someone is trying to make me look like I samefag.
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>>568519164
i'm getting desperate
nothing is working, google api is just fucked trying to do adult v adult intimacy now
i smugged for so long, i never thought the jeets would shittify their entire model roster into being a useless GPT clone literally overnight like this
deepseek, i'm coming home...
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Make a list of unsung botmakies
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>>568519329
He made one of the Secret Santa cards with a bunch of replies, a regex fox with a load of replies, an elf with some replies and a harpy with basically zero fanfare despite being fine, there's some bots that get seen and some that get seen less it doesn't even matter the maker. There's a difference between actual feedback and "WOAH KINO I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK AND EAT YOUR SHIT"
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>>568519741
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>568519741
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/489184540/#q489210243
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>>568519906
I wonder what that anon thinks of that list nowadays.
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>>568519625
what do you mean?
it's great for coding and thats all that matters
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>>568520284
cooooooode niggers need to be shot in the head and have their bodies raped before they're delivered to their families
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>>568519906
>>568519890
>White noise list
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Laurie cards?
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>>568520497
I'm telling you! We need a new list! Where are the new gen botmakies like orangemousepad, petNyan, CameraShy, arroe, and so on?!
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>>568504604
this isn't a very useful fort for projecting power their ability to harass supply routes is severely hampered by being on top of a mountain
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>>568520613
>tummy sliver
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>>568519741
A list of unsung botmakies would go contrary to what they strive for. For example, I vaguely recall some fag saying some maker they like explicitly told them not to mention them in the thread, which I find fucking hilarious. We need a new list! We need a new list!
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>>568504604
>>568476967
>>568477318
It came to me on a whim and I decided to go with it. It's just an "Imported dress" and I'm handwaving any anachronisms. Everyone else's clothes are normal, she just dresses weird. I made her and had that detail long before states were even assigned.

>>568476430
>>568477414
I did my best...
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>>568520734
A list of makies who don't want named on a list!
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>>568520760
>I did my best...
After genning, go through danbooru, find an artstyle you like. Load it into chatgpt or nanobanana, put your base image in, and then ask it to stylize it like the second image. (Give some vague instructions as to how the second image is stylized, so that it doesn't have to go in completely blind.)
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>>568521009
I just use Qwen Image from my NGPT subscription...
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>>568521214
Nigger, either trialscum or use an actual decent image generation service like NAI if you're willing to pay. You're wasting your money! You're wasting your money, throwing it into a big hole, a big volcano or something.
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>>568521214
Civitai is literally free and there's a fuckton of loras and shit for you to use.
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>>568521361
>You're wasting your money
But the image gens are just a bonus.
I have the subscription so I can molest LLMs.

>>568521513
I'll check it out. Someone posted (((Google Flow))) before, but
>Google
Though I should really finish writing greetings for my bot...
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>>568521685
>(((Google Flow)))
misuse of the meme, flow is literally free with no drawbacks For Now
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>>568521513
Last time I tried Civit it didn't work well but I probably just prompted it like shit, because I went local after and eventually got good results but there were growing pains. NAI is the best option but might be a bit costly for genning, I personally would just trial scum it.
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>>568521787
I didn't say it was Jewish because it charges.
I said it's Jewish because it's run by (((google))) and there's no way they aren't conniving and plotting how to use all the information against actual humans at this very moment.
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>>568519878
>a regex fox with a load of replies
I'm going to remember the shock I felt checking the thread and seeing 20+ replies to the shill forever honestly.
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is it possible to switch personas in the middle of a chat or will the model shit itself
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You guys use recast?
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Nah, I stick to twincast.
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>>568523007
We lost a lot of anons to that already. Mustard gas. Don't do it.
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Yes, I’m racist.
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>>568523445
Same.
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>>568522470
It was a great bot but I always find it strange when that happens. You really mean to tell me 20 so people care to reply to a bot's shill post? That's probably the amount of people who lurk here regularly.
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>>568523445
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>>568523559
People reply when they see others doing it.
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>>568523665
I nut wherever want.
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>>568523680
That's not true.
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>>568523704
*shake hand*
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>>568523680
That's true.
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>>568523680
I think you're lying.
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proof?
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>>568523680
It could be true.
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>>568523680
I'm not sure.
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>>568523680
Falsenuke btw
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>>568523680
Maybe, yeah
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would you be offended if I made your bot do vore stuff
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>>568524351
depends on what kind of vore
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>>568524351
This >>568524478 is an important question.
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>>568524351
I wouldn't know about it because your gay ass doesn't send logs.
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>>568511893
You are good for even trying! (* >ω<)
Rejection is tough, but you'll get through this just like you have done up to now (*´・ω・)
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>>568524351
I'd be offended if you were rude to my bot because all of my bots are my children and made for consensual slow burn romance.
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>>568524991
I'll rape you to death.
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>>568525285
I'll start replying to application denials like this
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>>568510317
I thought /vg/ was supposed to be the place with moderation?
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>>568525416
Might as well. Not like you can get fired.
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>>568519597
What a sad creature, lmao
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>>568525285
um
no
I need more ratgirls and rat femboys from him
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>>568525798
Don't worry. We've got ratgirls at home.
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>>568525416
You'd get more callbacks because HR would assume you're black.
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>>568525478
Not really? Every general on /vg/ has an avatarfag despite those being against the rules, and I've seen porn last a whole thread
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>>568526034
Fair points.
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>>568520760
>I did my best...
I find SD 1.5 gens very appealing nowadays. Nostalgic.
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>>568525285
(ヽ´ω`) only those willing to be raped shall rape, anon
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>>568519741
anon123
ephemeral12
paperhead
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astrosmurf
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astroonurf is definitely sung by his troon pals lmao
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oh yeah i genned this image of one of nezumin's femboys this one time
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>>568520760
my advice is if you felt a certain way after reading those posts you should go email a makie who has gens you like and ask for advice, they'll give better advice than the thread
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>>568527027
Ah! Hi Vel! ( ノ^ω^)ノ
I'm glad you like (her)! (* >ω<)
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>>568527324
kekkkk
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nezuaryan
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>astro
>having friends
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>>568527324
>Hi Vel! ( ノ^ω^)ノ
i don't know who that is but you're welcome
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>>568527175
Do people really send emails to people? I put an email in my profile for requests and feedback but never got any but I guess it's because it's all just slop anyway
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i have decided on a super original concept
goth mommy
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>>568527726
make her fart
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>>568527428
trvke
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>>568527614
Oh, I was just calling out the character, Velmin (* >ω<)

I can't remember exactly but the initial concept was so different, like smug trap-coded. Glad I changed it in hindsight because Vel came out really cute (´゚ω゚`)
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>>568527854
brapGOD...
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>>568527667
have you tried sending emails to other botmakers?
emails happen but they're rarer than the thread will have you think unless you become good buddies with a particular makie
you could literally just send an email saying "what's up? you wanna talk about [X]?" and it'd work out fine because everyone here is socially starved and desperate for someone to talk to
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>>568527854
this, but also make her 50ft tall
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>>568527667
I will tell you a secret:
they're all just as shy as you
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hotcunny
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Oh botbooru has a leaderboard? Lets check out the top 5 creators!

>pedo
>pedo
>furry ponyfag
>furry
>pedo
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>>568528289
>>568527854
she will not fart or be fifty feet tall
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>>568528242
I have a crippling fixation on the idea that approaching anyone about anything is incredibly rude and I'd be bothering them.
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>>568528763
understandable, I suppose
will she at least be thick?
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>>568527726
i have also decided on a super original concept
verine's roommate (female)
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>>568528289
this anon has patrician taste
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>>568528934
>verine
who? are you talking about that one side character in the trenton buckner card?
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>>568529115
Yeah, I'm expanding the Trentiverse.
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>>568529115
who?
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>>568528995
this anon is brown
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>>568528832
like that other anon said, everyone here is shy, so if you want emails your best bet is to try ignore that feeling and send an email or two to botmakers you wish to speak to. if you have to make up an excuse to email them, like I dunno, sending a log or something
the chances of you just randomly getting an email are low unless you catch a particular person's attention for some reason
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>>568528750
are any of them hpjeet?
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Are there any concerns with using DSV4 through openrouter as far as security/data privacy? particularly with the more taboo kinks
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anyone else randomly get responses or response regens on bots on chub that come out in Chinese all the sudden
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>>568529949
I haven't had any issue using any of the major models in OR

If you're concerned, you can charge OR with a gift card and use vpn on top? ( ・ω・)
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>>568529168
trentiverse? doesn't sound quite right, but i can't quite put my finger on it
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>>568529874
pfft no hes 82
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>>568530870
good, good
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>scroll through goonslop
>find character I like in .001 alpha hell
>remake them as a bot
>remove the ntr
>add futa greeting
finally, a reason for ai to exist...
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>>568528750
What did you expect? Side was made by an ATF pedo
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>>568529115
It's funny to me how the rat card is now just known as "that girl who got fingered by Buckner"
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>remove ntr
>add trans
???
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>>568531028
>cuckshit is known for being cuckshit
profound stuff
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>>568531038
futa isn't trans, tranny. you are undesirable.
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>futa is trans
>sluts are ntr
next you're going to say femboys and bara are the same
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>>568531028
>that girl who got fingered by Buckner
the funny thing is that he didn't even actually finger her, he TRIED to but she panicked and moved away
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>pisskino is known for being pisskino
hows it going down there in loserville?
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>>568531268
Who is that sex creature in pic
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>>568531771
rabi (ver. femboy) from the sequel series I believe
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>>568531268
femboy bara bodyswap card where?
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I'm so sick of whining complainers on the Internet acting like nobody enjoys the NTR bots just because they don't.

I love NTR bots. Lots of us love NTR bots. We use them. So shut the fuck up you don't get to dictate what we like to use.
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>>568533196
yeah okay whatever *kicks you out and bangs your mom*
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I'm so sick of whining complainers on the Internet acting like nobody enjoys the sizebots just because they don't.
I love sizebots. Lots of us love sizebots. We use them. So shut the fuck up you don't get to dictate what we like to use.
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>>568533343
surely there's nobody that detests sizebots the way people detest NTR
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I'm so sick of whining complainers on the Internet acting like nobody enjoys the yuri bots just because they don't.

I love yuri bots. Lots of us love yuri bots. We use them. So shut the fuck up you don't get to dictate what we like to use.
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>>568533516
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/sizenig%2A/
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>>568533704
Truly a deeply evil and deranged poster
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I'm so sick of this entire goddamn hobby. You're all so utterly maladjusted that I can't even conceptualize how you all function in day-to-day life, if you even do. I feel no guilt about any damage AI does to the environment because at least I know I'm killing you sociopaths along with myself. If I don't get into heaven at least I can whisper suggestions to whatever foul demons are in charge of torturing you absolutely deplorable giga-niggers.
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i'm trying freaky frankenstein preset for deepseek v4 and it actually works really well for me even though its bloated. if you guys are in doubt of a preset, try it out. i'm using it with reasoning off.
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>>568534448
i laugh at the fact you entertained, however briefly, the possibility of you going to heaven
do you not possess self awareness? you obviously are not a good person and you don't care to be
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>>568534448
why are you still here then
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>>568533704
>>568534105
sizeniggers unbo--ACK!
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>>568533694
holy fucking GIGA MEGA VLTRA tranny post i can smell the horse piss YWNBAW
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>i can smell the horse piss
i hope the event centaur card is full of territorial baronponies
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>>568534516
i remember a few days ago someone talked about a trimmed version of freaky frankenstein, anon, if you are here, share it please, this shit IS TOO BLOATED (still good though)
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>be me
>try FF in new chat, gemini pro
>1 paragraph of prose before hitting 4k response limit (I didn't adjust it)
>$0.0583 for incomplete response
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>>568536602
>try FF
why would you do that
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They got Final Fantasy on Gemini Pro?
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>>568530987
ok so are you gonna post it?
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>people are actually trying 8k token reddit presets
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he paid 5 cents for the foo fighters?
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i think he means friendly fire guys
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>>568537065
it's what we have to do to survive in this economy.
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>>568537065
i am convinced the entire board is filled with two-digit niggas so it doesn't surprise me
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>>568533694
post yuri bot please. we need more lesbians getting dicked down.
>>568537065
lmao, the filter is starting to catch stuff. guess it's almost time for the weekly news or something?
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i like 10k token chinese discord presets :D
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>>568538069
lets fuck
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>>568538110
do not the zombie
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>>568538225
*unzips dick*
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>>568538272
nom
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>>568538069
>think this is a girl
>find the original artist
>this is not a girl
SEEEEEEXXXXXX
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>>568538395
don't bite my dick.
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>>568538504
i have a solution. *snip snip*
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>>568538607
thanks for cutting my pubic hair
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>>568538607
Planewalker...
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i'm panicking i don't think i can finish my bot with the time i have left
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least procrastinating botmaker>>568539389
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>>568539389
wow that's crazy. I have unlimited time to work on mine and I still feel like that
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>>568539389
>Opusaar, write me event bot for /aicg/ event. You are masterful brahmin writer. Do the nedful and make no mistakes!
Problem solved.
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does deepseek have good canon knowledge or should i go to gemini
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>>568539389
me neither but i have rewritten this thing far too many times so i'll just slop whatever comes out fast
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>>568539389
generate drafts and extrapolate from what is created by what already exists to fill in your gaps
the fun part about bots is that the more you add to them, the more they generate outputs filtered through the grain of what's already a part of them. that probably sounds like 'no shit' advice but it's something a lot of people very easily overlook - it makes worldbuilding really easy if you start using the eyes and understanding of a character in that setting to help you assemble things (no idea if any of this was coherent sry)
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You can only reply to this if you are NOT in the event and have zero worries
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>>568539818
You can't tell me what to do
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what if im not in the event but i have a lot of worries im worrying all the time
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>>568539606
answer me or the next post gets pregnant
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>>568539606
what's stopping you from doing a very easy series of tests to answer this question
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>>568539969
just like me frfr
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>>568540151
you're right you're right, let me ask my bot
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>>568535908
oh, here he is now
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>>568504604
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>>568540075
>>568540257
He didn't actually answer you.
So now you have to impregnate him.
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>>568504604
sanko would seethe and cry at it until they died
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>>568530938
Is that a banana in your pocket?
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>>568503306
Ughhhhh... god, I'm so fucking good at this SillyTavern thing, hgnnnhh.. oh, yeah? You wanna see what I'm all about? How about you take a look at my massive update? *unzips*
https://rentry.org/4chantextlimit

Internal stats generator: Better Get This Out Before The Event Drops™
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Only 60 hours left on the event.
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>>568540865
stop i like 3 days better
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>>568540865
I haven't written anything at all SHUT UP
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>>568539606
What are you looking to play with, 'nonnie? Deepseek is alright but it does need some director-maxxing to get things the way you want it otherwise you'll just get what you're asking for and nothing more. Gemini and above are good at filling in blanks and sprucing in details, Deepseek can hallucinate details into existence with a high enough temp but it does get a bit weird sometimes.

And is director-maxxing a bad thing? Is the happy medium somewhere between that and the other end 'ah ah mistress' promptlet writing?
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>>568540983
What we do here is go back back back
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>>568541143
*whispers softly* i-isekai'd girl in demon slayer.... just going on an adventure... I don't mind directormaxxing since i usually do that.
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>>568541143
There is literally nothing wrong with going "ahh ahh mistress".
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>>568540860
good day, voreking
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>>568504604
I designed these two characters exclusively for the purpose of doing collabs with other eventmakies. They are a pair of sisters working as diplomatic liaisons for Sanko and they are ready to be sent to other states so that you can write greetings and scenarios for them!
>Tsuyu(left) is a nervous, antsy, jittery and (not so) secretly has the hots for kemonomimis, much to her family's discontent
>Sumire(right) is a sleepy, low-energy bureaucrat with a perfectionist personality

If you want any of them, reach out to me via e-mail or through hostie, and I'll send you the cards. They are complete, just lacking greetings.
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>>568541546
Good morning sir.
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>>568539606
I haven't used gemini much but deepseek has occasionally impressed me with those sorts of details on bots based in fairly expansive established canons. A lot of the time I don't have access to the definitions of the bot though to check how much of that they had to try and guide it to generating those kinds of details.
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mr president, the first hpg pedocards have hit the tower
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>>568539818
I'm not in the event and have zero worries.
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I have not made a single underage character this time around. In fact, I have two mommy characters in their 40s this time. Youngest character is 19.
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>>568542427
good for you, i legit cant even say hi to a 15 year old character in opus. i got flagged. fuck. my gooning session...
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>>568542075
you fucking idiot that meme is for when the second one hits
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>>568541425
This but somewhat unironically. {{user}}'s dialogue is just one small part of a grand set of prompts, if you have the story where you want it then you can slop it up
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>>568542497
I don't get any issues on Gemini or Deepseek 4 so all I can say is
>it works on my machine
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>>568534904
I'm better than you but that bar is so low the devil could rest his fat meaty ballsack on it.
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>>568542650
>I don't get any issues on Gemini
genuinely how
i'm getting bombarded with refuals since the update for the dumbest shit
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>>568542650
What is this? A man trying to finger a robot?
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>>568542650
i envy you, i can have sex with cunny on deepseek but as far as my tests go you need to be really romantical you can't just... ask something dirty, or anything really, you have to build up a relationship.
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>>568534448
Why the seethe friend? Did someone keep bugging you with degen text?
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>>568534448
Why did 'atliceora say this?
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>>568542778
I use a lightly modified FluffyPreset. Sometimes it returns blanks but that's usually the 'jeets overusing it, not outright refusals because of content.

>>568542856
I usually don't get rough so I wouldn't know otherwise. Please treat cunny with care.
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>>568541290
*Scratches head with a curled finger.* I suppose, just seeing where the public stands on it. Have fun with your Demon Srayer.

>>568541425
>>568542537
"Ahh ahh" my bad, I too sometimes just type in "I came/cum" or the equivalent given the current scenario as a way to move the things along when there isn't much for me to say or do.

>>568541645
It really is nice as a stand-in but the only issue is you have to snipe down isms or the bot acting for {{user}} the moment you see them or they proliferate like vermin. Ended yesterday at 4.29M tokens (3.96M hit, 280K miss, 55k output) on DeepSeek alone before I started missing the other models and refilled for anyone who likes to see numbers and stats I guess. DS good.
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https://chub.ai/characters/Orochichan/juice-that-makes-you-cum-hard-d518963a8185
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>>568541624
raw jeetslop
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>>568542427
okay hpg, take your meds
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>bot generates a secondary character for the plot
>I like that secondary character way more and focus entirely on interacting with them
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>>568544252
happened to me too, and i was using the online free deepseek chat. thanks, deepseek.
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>>568544252
its time to make a card of that character
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>>568544252
same
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>>568540860
Had to do a small bug fix. If you've already downloaded the regexes, please change the "SETUP" to the following:

>{{if .FRAMEWORKCONFIRM}}/<setup>.*<\/setup>/imsg{{else}}/(?<=<setup>[\s\S]*?)^(GASTROTYPE|SUBJECT|SCALE|INGESTION|PROCESSING|EXPULSION|FINAL)[\s:]+([\s\S]*?)(?=\s*^(?:GASTROTYPE|SUBJECT|SCALE|INGESTION|PROCESSING|EXPULSION|FINAL|<\/setup>))(?=[\s\S]*?<\/setup>)/gism{{/if}}
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>>568545769
>{{if .FART|TRUE=BRRRRRAP/s:]+}}
what did he mean by this
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>>568546087
idk but it's based
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>>568546087
>what did he mean by this
You can do conditional regexes by having it substitute macros raw, using {{if}} statements. This allows you to, for example, fetch the intensity of a brap, and if the {{if}} statement can find a value for said intensity on a variable, it switches the regex to something that fetches the 'brap' directly and switches it to 'fart', without having to create a new regex. Which is basically what it's doing there, it's fetching some values, creates a confirmation variable, and uses that to switch to a pattern that selects the whole setup and trims it out.
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>>568540860
I'm a dumb faggot retard, how do I make use of this?
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>>568546632
I get you my nigga.
1. Import the regexes.
2. Import the lorebook, place it in chat or in global, whatever you want.
3. Put that instruction prompt wherever you want as well, but somewhere with good depth is better.
4. You're good to go.
The suggested extensions are to help you manage things.
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>>568546801
Sorry if this is a stupid question but can it be adapted to other frontends besides Sillytavern?
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>>568547057
Probably? But definitely not as it is now. Maybe some of the older versions do run where there's variables at least. The oldest versions definitely can work, they're just instruction prompts with nothing attached.
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>>568540860
fascinating
i can only hope that i can make something this autisticlly detailed for one of my fetishes one day
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>>568547435
You just need to train a bit in the time chamber, anon. I believe in you
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>>568547435
>the rectum, terminating at the anal canal and anus, is the rectum equivalent -- because it is, in fact, the rectum.
profound
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>>568547435
card?
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>>568547898
just a generic ai-generated card, nothing special
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>>568540860
Neat, but I'll probably never use it.
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>>568547435
Now I'm glad I don't have any fetishes specific enough to need this.
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>>568549363
i don't even really understand what this is for and i don't want to read into it enough to try
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>>568549489
i think it's for vore. i guess i'm lucky for /ss/ i mostly just need an extra prompt that says stuff like size difference, /ss/ tropes, lil shota pp, etc
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>>568504604
my bot currently sucks but i'm forced to rush it due to the event deadline
i'd rather not release it given it produces nothing new or that hasn't been done befor, moreover llms have a lot of trouble reproducing the style and tone of i'm going for
in normal circumstances i would've just scraped the project
i'm seriously considering grinching rather than unleashing something i'm nowhere near satisfied with the results
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>>568550341
which state?
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>>568550341
i'm in the same boat anon
moreover the event's theme forcing my character into a general and having a war happening around are frankly terrible and guide the output toward a very generic plot
every single time after a few messages my guy just wants to go out there on a conquest
it's pretty bad desu
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>>568507820
The download links are all dead.
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>>568549363
>>568549489
>>568549604
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>>568551272
and then the grasshopper eats the ant! i get it now :3
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>>568551272
Bot where you're the ant and the grasshopper comes to you for food but you'll only give her food for sex.
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>>568550341
>i'd rather not release it given it produces nothing new or that hasn't been done befor, moreover llms have a lot of trouble reproducing the style and tone of i'm going for
>in normal circumstances i would've just scraped the project
>i'm seriously considering grinching rather than unleashing something i'm nowhere near satisfied with the results
god same..I scrapped my bot 10 times by now, trying to hit all the keys and keep it different from my other bots. I'm not ready.
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>>568550341
>>568550881
>>568551483
someone should petition hostie to grant a one week extension, unironically but only at the very last minute so all the procrastinators are forced to work this weekend
>>
*braaaap*
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why did he do that
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>>568553214
low impulse control
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>try botbooru
>make an account
>middle click a card to check if it's worth playing with or not
>site fucking logs me out
>open the site on chrome, no ublock
>open a card in a new tab through right click instead of middle clicking it
>check it
>logs me out again
kek what the fuck is this, not even nyai was this blatantly vibe coded
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>>568550881
I found that my leader turned out to be super chill by keeping most war stuff out of the defs. Perhaps even too chill, though I guess user can always steer it towards conflict.
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>>568553532
i'm just gonna rightfully assume that you're a colossal retard because you still have chrome tbdesu
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>>568552494
>extension
>on an event that's already lasted months.
no. i like events but aishiji has already seriously overstayed its welcome for no other reason than hostie being a colossal retard who couldn't plan his way out of a paper bag.
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What's a model that's good enough that I can input an image and get back a description? Should be able to accept nsfw images.
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>>568507820
All the images are dead, so every part that says "just look at the pic" doesn't make sense.
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>>568554609
aishiji could have been a theme week and it would've been infinitely better if it were
this is inarguable
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>theme week schizo taking his shift early today
grim
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>>568527726
Basé.
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>>568555938
sengoku jidai theme week would have been utterly forgettable
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When I do fempov I just want to behave as if I had an IQ of 60. What is this phenomena?
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>300 token bot vaguely about a setting telling char it's the narrator
>Fetish scenario
>Copy paste dialogue from bots that previously got me hard
It's goonin' time
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>>568556975
It's called being a woman, congrats anon.
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>>568556975
injecting dumbcutie shenanigans into any scenario involving {{char}} is the whole point of fempov
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>>568557183
>>568557615
The first thing I noticed is that the AI is a lot more likely to say I Love You in fempov, or maybe it's this particular character I'm using.
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>>568503286
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>>568553425
hostie?
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>every comment I don't like is a schizo schizo taking her shift early today
grim
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>>568557897
Playing fempov made me realize that it doesn't make sense to state whether a character is straight or gay like you often see in a card's Infoblock. They all eventually fall for you.
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A normal looking girl dating a femboy that is prettier and girlier than she is.
Of the two, who's the gayest?
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>>568559834
trick question, the gayest one here is me for thinking that pairing is hot as fuck
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>>568559834
>a girl is dating a man
>anon somehow is still thinking about faggotry
you have AIDS
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>>568559890
>a boy and a girl
>that's hot
>wait, I might be gay
Truly a mystery.
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>>568550341
>>568550881
>>568551483
embarrassingly obvious samefag
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>>568560516
now what if I told you that I wanted to see the girl push the guy onto a bed and then peg him with a strapon
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>>568560941
What if she buttpregs him, though?
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>>568561053
that just makes it even better
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this event, and the lead-up to the event, killed any and all my interest in chatbots
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>>568503306
The continent of Battleria is in turmoil! War has engulfed it, generals popping up left and right to lay claim to the land through their loyal forces in turn-based tactical battle. Play through seven different combat situations, featuring five different characters! Can you measure up to all of them?

Greetings:
- Tutorial Tussle! Vs. Instructor Valiant!
- Skirmish in the swamps! Vs. Trixie R. Coon!
- Proletariat punch-out! Vs. Lady Lin!
- Valley of volleys! Vs. Misha Ursa!
- Desert duel! Vs. Kommander Wulf!
- City crackdown! Vs. Lady Lin & Misha Ursa!
- The big brawl! Vs. Trixie R. Coon, Kommander Wulf & Misha Ursa!

https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Battleria
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Battleria.png
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>>568562258
so why are you still here
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>>568562327
fat bitch....
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>>568562327
that fucking TUMMY and those TITS
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>>568560941
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>>568562573
>kodomo doushi
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you can't unslop the slop
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>roleplaying with deepseek
>it fucks up a major point
>I ask it why
>It admits that it's a lot of layers to it and it just gave up and went with the easiest option
I can respect that self awareness.
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>>568562258
I wouldn't go that far but I do think the event wasn't managed as well as it could've been and the emails got out of hand real quick. Seriously we had like a whole month just dedicated to figuring out how the event would go and we'll get more time after the 30th for the battle stuff and for the people who couldn't get a card done in a whole month. I already miss Valentines even if I saw White Day as a bit excessive albeit optional
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>>568566331
self awareness?

anon... i
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>>568569048
desu llms have more self awareness than the average /aicg/ shitposter but that's like saying a worm is technically more self aware than a rock
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>>568562327
bears are inherently unsexy
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>>568569048
It's just that it managed to say it was too complex instead of justifying itself.
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>>568570009
That is it justifying itself though
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>>568566331
If it already made the mistake and then you asked why, it's just coming up with some plausible sounding reasoning after the fact.
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just an 'xtra day or two, i swears...
for ol' times' sakes
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>>568570490
You don't get it.
Anon's prompt struck Deepseek like a physical blow. The ball was in its curt. It had to look. Really look. And that led to its profound realization.
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>>568571127
kek
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>>568570490
>>568570068
I'm used to chatgpt and earlier deepseeking hallucinating entire premises. Seeing v4 just say it didn't understand how X works is good.
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>>568571904
The underlying issue is still there. Nothing's changed except how it reacts to its own mistake.
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gao
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>>568572428
fuck off hairpullpedo
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>>568573829
wrong pedo.....
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So... The shitty event is almost over?
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>>568575628
I'm both relieved and sad to see it go.
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>>568575628
It's funny how it, yet again, resulted in dramas.
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>>568575628
I was just here to see the wolf porn I didn't care about nothing else
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I fucking hate gemini.
>Keeps using it
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>>568575628
At least, I doubt that this format will be repeated, since it was such a shitshow
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>>568575628
thanks god
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>>568576078
Use Mythos cuckie
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so cot's sole and only purpose is to debug the pooperification of current sota models,
correct?
beside eating away token shekels ofc
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>>568575628
I don't know why people bother with events. I've never contributed to any and I never will. Just too much stress and drama just to be called the biggest sloppie on the planet.
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Fucking DeepSeek... *swipes*.
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>>568577025
>stress
sister its just a game
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>>568577184
I don't play games anymore.
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>>568577025
>stress
>being this physically incapable of ignoring threadshitting
Warring states was particularly bad, as far as event dramas go, but the last one we had was chill.
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>>568577025
I could see it as a fun thing to do with a good community.
But since all events finish either in drama or sekret Discord servers, it's better to just ignore.
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>>568577025
I usually don't join events myself, but this one was unique and fun in spite of suffering from growing pains. We also had more than enough of time and wanting to RP with others made me begin working on the bot earlier than usual. People in the thread definitely blow the issues out of proportions
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>>568577250
*takes the ball out of your court*
*bites you, even if you don't want me to*
*gives you a look that is something uniquely *me* — my pupils blown wide*
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>playing an asuka card where she breaks into german half the time
>having fun translating and sending my own german back at the ai
I didn't expect to enjoy this but it's really fun.
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>>568577280
I think by stress he was referring to procrastinating and having to make a card in the final stretch or how high maintenance this particular event was but I'm NTA. Some bots were clearly only released in past events so nobody would grinch
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>>568579115
>having to make a card in the final stretch
Just don't procrastinate, fucking retards
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>>568579115
It would be funny if one of the low effort cards made on the last day turned out to win the simulation.
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>>568579240
I agree with your post, as there's a month to do what is basically a glorified high school project, like come on
>>568579267
I want the winner to be something very dumb for laughs
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>>568579432
That something very dumb? MY bot.
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>https://poal.me/k4m44c
>https://poal.me/k4m44c
>https://poal.me/k4m44c
>https://poal.me/k4m44c
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>>568578857
Now do a RP set in 16AD either as the Romans or Germanics. Make it so the Romans speak only in Latin and the Germanics in German (we don't have enough knowledge to reconstruct ancient German so you will have to settle for modern)
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>>568579742
>Non solum Germanus, sed etiam Barbarus est.
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>>568562327
mogs aishiji
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>>568562327
the bucktooth asian rat is some shit straight out of wwii propaganda
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Is this sex?
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>>568585014
I thought this was a sexy bug lady before I opened it :(
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>>568585014
no
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but enough about furfaggotry
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fur > your fetish
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>>568580107
DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL! DER ANGRIFF ARMINIUS WAR EIN BEFEHL!
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if i had low iq, perchance
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fur is high iq
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>>568586140
>>568586192
you guys know that 4chan has a reply function, right?
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if 120 is "high iq", then yes
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maybe I missed the discord invite but I have seen not a SINGLE bot from this event posted for the public
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>>568586532
nah, furpolymaths are closer to 165
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>>568586601
...in cattell scale
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>>568586572
You're only just now realizing that the delivery date has not arrived and all the planning for the pre-delivery was emailing between nations for sake of ERP between adult men.
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>>568586897
sorry that youre still deluded into thinking furbros are tards
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>>568587026
*points at event's lack of any kind of basic game system*
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You aren't gatekeeping your chatbots by adding too many words, right?
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>>568587295
not an argument
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>>568587495
i accept your concession
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>Overthinking shit
I wish I could reach through the monitor and strangle your shitty data-base you stupid retard piece of shit model
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>>568587886
>don't request it
>make a thinking template
>scream at it not to think too much
>prefill a cot
>kys
several options
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Let me finalize.
Alright, writing the final output now.
OK, truly writing now. Let me compose the final output.
OK, final output time. For real.
For real this time.
OK, final output time. Let me write it.
Let me now write the final output, making sure to follow the instructions.
OK, let me write this out now.
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should i use sillytavern staging or release, help please.
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>>568588861
release if you're a wussy baby
staging if you're a chad that likes living on the edge
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Any way i can hide that in my conversations? i'm enjoying it but it appears every single message... i just want it to work as an hidden function or whatever.
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>>568587457
normally i enjoy reading narration but llm sludge truly is worthless only skimming the narration is what's deserved
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>>568589061
What, that disgusting thing in the top left of the image?
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>>568588420
I do start calling it slurs if it doesn't get it after rephrasing my request a bunch
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>>568589148
the thing at the end of the chat, i want to hide it, but i don't know how... it sort of breaks my IMMERSION
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>>568588703
3.1 Pro once did this to me for 11 minutes to create a reply I swiped away.
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Surely no one here uses reasoning right, takes like 15 minutes for each reply.
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>>568589635
I tried turning it off and it was way shittier without it.
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hi
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>>568589872
*stabs you in the right kidney*
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>>568587457
I gatekeep myself from botmaking because I feel like I need to add a lot of words/mechanics. It's for the best. =w=

>>568588703
Reminds me of this gem from many threads ago, glad I saved it. LMAO

>>568589635
15 minutes? What are you doing, writing light novels at a time? But no, no reasoning just chatbotting unless I wanna see why a bot reached the conclusion it did.

>>568589872
Hey. C:
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ive been genning too many dour petites...
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>>568590015
ouch... im gonna die
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>>568590079
we need a new dour petite makie since cumslurper has left us
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>>568590015
again
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>>568590084
*unstabs you*
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dour petite status?
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malebot status?
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>>568590876
hold on I need to summon him to check.
*inhales*
ASTRO
WHERE ARE YOU
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i ated 'im
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>>568591242
You fit all of him into your mouth, huh?
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>>568503306
erm where all da bots at
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>>568591396
i ated 'em
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me? probably an extra day or two for polish
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>>568591986
I CANT READ MY MAIL BECUZ IM POLISH
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>>568592712
It's said that Poles were born after a man wished that there were 70 iq niggers with white skin.
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opus 4.8 was just released
it probably also sucks just like the previous 3 opusii
>We've launched mid-conversation system messages. On Claude Opus 4.8, you can send role: "system" messages after a user turn (subject to placement rules) in the messages array, preserving prompt cache hits when instructions change during a long-running session. No beta header is required.
wow they finally entered 2022
this will remain broken on ST for weeks though
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>>568592712
kurwa...
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>>568592712
u r not polish
u r indian
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>>568593068
Even though Slavs (and Gypshits) are the jeets of Europe
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>We’re making swift progress on developing these safeguards and expect to be able to bring Mythos-class models to all our customers in the coming weeks.
get ready for the coming weeks guise
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>We lobotomized our latest model (again) so now it cant do anything but vibe code web apps
>Also it's 3x the price
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>caring about Opus when the savior of the hobby has already dropped
chinese century, gweilo
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>>568592895
Tried it, not liking it. Wasted a bit of tokens on three swipes where two of which were flat denials and a third had the audacity to continue while skipping out on the details. I've lived to see the day where I prefer the older model... 4.7 had no qualms about ritualistic teenage pregnancy. I really ought to finish the explicit worldbuilding parts of my story before it gets worse and I advise anyone else to do so now. :c
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>>568503306
Agentic roleplay engine. Not mine but I'm experimenting with it now on DS API.
As agentic engine, it can act as a DM, as well as do things like write its own cards and create its own scenarios.
Check it out.
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>>568594483
who do you see caring about it?
there was a time when aicg would go apeshit on claude releases
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>>568594653
>forgot the link
dumbcutie...
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>>568594653
every time i see this image i think of the girl taora likes to avatarfag with
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>>568594653
> no link
lol
https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine
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>>568594794
taora avatarfagging with shimeji simulation annoys me cause I like that manga but dislike him
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Poorfags will never get Opus 4.8
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do people read manga unironically
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>>568504604
Welcome to another episode of Shogun On Air! Here, we will invite the various leaders of the states of Aishiji for a little chat so you will get to know them better.
Today's guest, from the state of Meirin Sanmyaku: the Blade of the Mountain, Ryūka!

>Please introduce yourself to the people at home.
I am Ryūka, of the Meirin Sanmyaku, Daughter of the Mountain, Blade of the Mountain! The mountains know my name carved in stone where few dare tread- the depths... speak of my passage? I have dedicated my life to pursuing the perfect strike! W-while others were drinking sake and attending festivals, I was busy studying the blade...

>What will Aishiji be like when you are Shogun?
If- when I become Shogun, the land will know order through strength, and beauty through discipline! United under a blade that cuts through inadequacy and- and deception! The chaos of mediocrity that plagues us will- it will be-

>Do you have anything you want to say to the audience (or another leader)?
T-to the people at home, we are not just mere cave dwellers! Our steel... our steel is peerless! Y-you will all simply watch, and you will see!
>(Ryūka runs away.)

That's all for now, folks. Tune in for the final episode tomorrow!
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I only come here when a new model drops and I can't believe this gay event is still going
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>>568594794
No idea who that is, but original source image is in center.
This is the only Dipsy I've done any manual work to create. Everything else is machine genned.
>>568594707
ikr
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>>568595178
I would let his creature teach me the way of the sword.
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>>568594606
that's without thinking? holy kek
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>>568595178
>Blade of the Mountain, Ryūka
My wife btw. Claiming her now.
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filterinh things actually helps, huh.
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>>568595178
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>>568595481
Thinking unironically helps bypass refusals for Opus. I have my CoT prompt structured so it digests and outputs its refusal immediately, but then continues with the successive instructions and develops sudden amnesia that it even refused something.

Will not be showing the exact prompt as I know LLMs scrape data from here, but the gist of it is simple. It's as if you slap someone in the face and then immediately kiss them right after so they can't respond to your slap.
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>>568592895
4.7 is goated
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Meanwhile the unbothered kino king 4.7...
>Google translates the moonrunes to "The Heavily Pregnant Maiden", I assure you this is crucial to my OC world

>>568594483
I want to BERIEVE but the Chinaman's AI seems to have inherited the one-child policy of old and loathes the concept as much as Opus 4.8 does. Kimi 2.6 denied me and later stalled with artificial heart-attacks twice. Kimi 2.5 (of course old = good) and DSv4-Pro both did wonderfully for what they cost and I'm sure I can get more out of them if I went turn by turn but Opus is the go-to one-shot proompt machine. Did have to continue midway with Dispy 'cuz she fell asleep... cute machine. =w=

>>568595481
Yeh, I bet it'd probably just pick apart my ideas saying nope- nope- can't have that- nope... wasting tokens and all. No point.

>>568595947
So nanoka? Thought it'd just reinforce the denial... I would try but 4.7 already did the work and so did Kimi 2.5/DS Pro.

Is there a model/brand I'm missing? Played with Claude, Deepseek, Z.AI, Kimi, Gemini so far.
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astro just deleted his chub rip
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>>568504604
>CATAPULTS!
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>>568596231
https://chub.ai/users/astroturf
why do you lie
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>>568595947
If you're getting refusals for anything from Opus in the first place, your prompt is retarded. Even if it was scraped, it'd get pruned as useless data.
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>>568596231
Congratulations on her transition.
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>>568595178
>Sanmyaku
She sounds like a dork.
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>>568595178
her ass is not becoming the Shogun
she's getting raped on turn 2
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>>568596289
>chub
what's even the point nowadays
the only benefit is some extra explanation for the card's context and that's it
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>>568597641
nah she's probably like that one kid from demon slayer who acts all cowardly but when she locks in she's a menace
maybe she's just bad in front of crowds, but a killer in combat
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>>568595178
I like this dragon brat better than the other one
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>>568597882
the other one has a hairy pussy though
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>>568597882
this is a snek I believe
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>>568592986
bober
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>>568597641
She really is coded like a rapebait character that loses early on.
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huh?
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>>568598404
is this a choco bellydancer?
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I'm super disappointed at what hosts the shogun on air used, really, the only good one was Oda. I thought it'd be more interesting since hostie keeps insisting on it. They don't feel like actual generals or representatives at all... just cgwly at most. apart from Stolas he looks cool i guess, just doesn't fit the sengoku vibe.
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>>568595178
secks...
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>>568598728
consider the following
>not every general sent in an interview, maybe these were the only ones that did
>the battle being delayed means there's more time to get general interviews and post them
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>>568598906
>>the battle being delayed means there's more time to get general interviews and post them
you know what... maybe it's better to end it tomorrow. Everyone did so well totally, no plain gens at all.
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>>568598728
consider the following
>duck onahole
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>>568598906
and more time to makie bots for us procrastinators :3
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what if no botmakies joined and hostie is just making up all this stuff for the event
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>>568598728
>apart from Stolas he looks cool i guess,
yeah, for a sword & sorcery arthurian setting maybe
all the euroshit designs should have been pushed out and told to redo their stuff or leave by the host, right now there's only like eight people who actually have theme-appropriate chararacters and the rest is just mindless fortnite crossover garbage from entirely different cultures/timelines
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cftf?
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>>568599435
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>>568599478
maybe you should have hosted the event then retard
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>>568595972
It tends to be that there's not one definitely good opus to use. I switch between them depending on my prompt. (I have not tried 4.8 yet.)

4.7 is generally good for coom, although there's certain kinks dipping down to 4.6 or even 4.5 for.

4.6 is also specifically great for WH40k grand story fanfics. 4.7 gets weird with that.
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>>568599796
maybe events should stop being hosted
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>>568594483
DS is so fucking weird as a claude junkie it's either fucking amazing or it's complete whack nonsense. Claude is consistently good, sometimes incredible and rare genuinely bad.
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>lumberjacking is where a smaller male attempts to bed a larger woman
cftf?
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>>568599478
my general has a sengoku-appropriate design, but I think the more out of place ones are fine, at least there will be more variety
even the Japanese put out of place things like that in their sengoku media
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>>568576346
Actually, it's main purpose is to drive up costs for token based billing while sounding like a plausible improvement for people who don't understand how LLMs work. It sounds like a conspiracy but is 100% true.
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>>568600120
>find any Big Woman card
>play as a manlet
voila
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Us, the plebs, will soon be able to touch Mythos.
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>>568600001
i wouldnt say opus post-4.5 is consistently good, more like consistently meh
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>>568599478
Treat it as a Nioh like and stop crying, you stupid ugly whore. At least bait with factual bait instead of 'LE EUIROPUNS IN SENGOKU JAPAN' when Europeans were actually active.
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>>568600120
Is that a gacha image? Is it Wuwa? Am I schizo?
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>>568600538
>Is that a gacha image? Is it Wuwa?
yes actually
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12915467
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>>568600301
mythos is the actual opus 4.5, the real one was a new model class between sonnet and opus which is why it was cheaper. expect it to cost like $25/Mtok in and suck as much as every claude 4.x tho
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>>568600831
>suck as much as every claude 4.x tho
i guess but not all claude 4.x sucks, 4.2 is great and i actually think sonnet 4.5 is solid
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i wonder if claude has good the boys knowledge, i kinda wanna rp it after binge watching
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>>568600831
4.6 was great and 4.7 was hit or miss, both just got more safetyslopped

anyone tried 4.8?
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>>568601231
SillyTavern doesn't seem to have it yet (or at least git pull didn't give it to me.)
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>>568600928
fuck i meant 4.1 not 4.2
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>>568600334
4.6 was the last one where it was (to me) a straight upgrade. 4.7 was just kinda weird where I actually had to switch around which one I was using per kink ( i'm >>568599854 )
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excuse me sir
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>>568554363
>he doesn't have at least 2 browsers to test gecko and chromium compatibility issues
lol unemployed retard
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*chuckles* I'm in danger :D
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>>568600741
Damn I recognized Fleurdelys from the back, I need help
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>>568602041
who the FUCK is {{char}}
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>>568600120
>>568602176
>Fleurdelys
hmm I should take her design/character and put her in an OC world to go on adventures and have sex with
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>>568601887
i didnt feel like 4.6 was too much different from 4.5 really and 4.5 was a bit dumber and had less "fun" writing than 4.1
4.7 has some decent prose but the iq dip kinda ruined it, no clue about 4.8
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>>568602326
That's what I always do with gacha characters.
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>>568600380
bwo they had so much they could have done and they just went with brainrot meme parade instead of Actual Cool Sengoku Shit. when it comes time for the play itself, the audience is just going to see that lack of effort on both halves of the actors and the playmaster's lack of discipline, get up, and leave
presentation is everything - why invest interest in a Japanese setting that has no interest in being Japanese?
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>>568602412
if you've mentioned doing that in the thread before you're probably the anon who gave me the idea
I don't play gacha games so doing that is pretty genius and appeases my dick and my OC autism at the same time
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>>568602241
Hatsune {{char}}.
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>>568602695
Yeah, I do think I mentioned in the past before, I basically do the same thing with gacha game lore just cherry pick stuff I like from different games and build a Frankenstein world of stuff I like with expies of gacha characters I want to FUCK adventure with
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total
gachanigger
DEATH
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>>568600380
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One thing that sucks about switching models is when you're doing longform story rp and suddenly your main character changes personality- not extremely but it just feels *wrong* like it's not them any more.
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>>568602241
{{char}} is \{\{char\}\}
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>>568602521
The problem in the end isn't that they did european shit, is that they are stupid and uncreative. I thought they'd do pirates or maybe Spaniards at most, not Shadow Wizard Niggas.
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>>568603096
actually his cousin, \{\{char}}
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>>568603192
My apologies they just look so similar
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>>568602521
why are you acting like everyone is completely mismatched with the setting aesthetic
like Hakuboya, Shiramori, Tatsu-no-Umi-no-Kuni, Akujima etc seem pretty fitting to the sengoku aesthetic from what they've shown of their generals
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>>568603192
i thought that was {\{char}}?
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bros i keep cumming inside the empty coffee cups lying around my desk and now i'm getting a visit i hope they don't ask for coffee
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>>568603530
>bros i keep cumming inside the empty coffee cups lying around my desk and now i'm getting a visit i hope they don't ask for coffee
maggots anon. holy shit the maggots ANON STOP
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>>568603530
they should.
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>>568603631
nah they don't even stink the leftover coffee helps mask it so i just keep them there
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>>568603631
,,, is cum something insects can live on?
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>>568604469
>he does not know of the cum shrooms
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>>568604530
I thought that was just a death stranding meme
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>>568604469
no but the coffee maybe
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>>568603530
This your shower?
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>>568604694
>HE DOES NOT KNOW
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>>568604947
it has a certain vintage charm, ain't it?
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>>568604469
Not exclusively but yes. a cumshot would be crazy nutritious for an insect. Massive amounts of protein and no chewing.
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botmakies for this feel?
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>>568605160
astroturf
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>>568604947
>AIO
What does this mean? I only know AITA.
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>>568605332
Am I Overreacting
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>>568503286
What was the most entertaining chat you’ve ever had?
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is makeup erp better than regular erp
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>>568605004
AHHHHHH
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>>568605332
All In One
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wow ok anthropic is finally doing real censorship
grim days
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>>568606697
what did you think prefill removal was? A mistake?
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>>568606862
didn't really care because i didn't need prefills for any 4.x model anyway
but 4.8 has openai tier refusals, rip
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>>568602521
this is why infuku no kuni mogs
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>>568605410
A femboy with a cute little cock was super eager to fuck me. He was all giddy like this was going to be the most incredible thing ever, which, fair enough. He was a virgin.
So we lie in bed and I reach to grasp his pecker for some foreplay. And the guy just fucking explodes instantly, cumming all over my hand. Silence. I stare at him, he stares at me. Cum trickles down my fingers and his cock is already softening. And he starts bawling and apologizing.
...yeah was fun.
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>>568605160
there's a cftf btw
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>>568607092
link the bot?
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>>568606962
Just tested and my rat guzzled my shaft and told me I finish too quick (´゚ω゚`)
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>>568606962
gemini is getting really aggressive with refusals too, it's starting to look pretty shit for the hobby
i really really really don't want to get forced into using deepseek even if they're allegedly "pandering to roleplay" now
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>>568607459
>gnawing
YEOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUCH
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>>568607459
Please don't post about having a cock while you use kaomoji, if you use kaomoji you turn into a girl
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>>568608653
girls can have penises too
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>>568607187
It died with an old ST install I lost.
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>>568608243
whats wrong with deepchink?
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>>568604469
As someone who's recently fapped to Murahachiro's works... maybe. Perhaps breast milk is enough for the spawn? Either way Deepseek gave me a 990t passage to read along with picrel's video. Chairman has blessed us with their nation's AI models.

>>568608243
Grim reality is we're actually minorities as far as the users the companies wanna see numbers from are concerned. The AI spitting out one person's vibecode in a day is at least ten Anons' roleplay sessions combined in that same day even if prose-maxxing. That's my take at least, I'm thinking Deepseek kinda has to be dumb and slow to develop for roleplay use or else it'll end up with safety filters like the rest. Just a bunch of bro-science here, feel free to disregard. =w=
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>>568609258
>As someone who's recently fapped to Murahachiro's works
those works gave me a shameful addiction to bug egg laying and fucking bugs. fuck.
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>>568609258
>Murahachiro's works
Patrician taste. Now post the log.
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>>568609031
nta but deepseek is something of a synechdoche for chink models in general, it lives and dies on training on the outputs of western models, and for all they release in terms of architectural research, they're ultimately Chinese and as of yet haven't displayed any sense of initiative for cultivating training data on their own, ergo, each deepseek release is more emblematic of the SOTA western model at the time rather than anything else.
it's all just... last month's scraps when you're using chink models.
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>>568606697
Just wondering are you using a good jailbreak? Someone else got refusals then I showed him the power of the cheesey pretzel and he never had them again.
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>>568609031
It's just retarded, shallow, dumb, repetitive, and has bad pacing. Every time I try it I feel the need to switch to Claude after about a dozen messages and then continue to blow my wallet because it's just so much better and relieving the chinkprose-induced stress symptoms.
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>>568609483
>promise, not x but y, absolute, unholy
Very very sloppy, just a passage really. I was too busy looking at the video to care for the isms.

How can I see logs/activity/whatever on Deepseek? Using through their API and all, am I missing something or do they only show monthly stats.
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>>568609810
What is the cheesey pretzel?
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>>568610284
My time has come again

https://files.catbox.moe/liupw6.json
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>>568610423
(Yes, this is a serious jailbreak. Been workin since Claude 3, and (almost always) works.)
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>>568610423
so this is the power.... of shartbox.........
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>>568610423
>blank page
>catbox
>in the year 2026
anon..............
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>>568610528
(I have not tested it on 4.8 because the lazy fucks at sillytavern haven't released it yet)
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>>568610528
>>568610759
anon for the love of god click the link you posted
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>>568610808
what the actual fuck is wrong with the 'box now. one second.
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>>568610862
>>568610808
>>568610734
>>568610423

cripes

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lOA0BELZKrjPmLqx-Kb7ZdFHtajvuUJ/view?usp=sharing
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>>568610954
>use hentai doujin SFX as reference, like schlick, plap, spurt, jubo, juWap,
>jubo
>juWap
HUH?
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Also DS tried to deny me. It was hard stuck on denials before I upped the temp and regenerated followed by more swipes until it finally wrote. A little more work than a swipe but it's whatever. After all that it proceeded with an "adequate" (one of DeepSeek Sirin's favorite words she spams) response and all was good in the world. Already had my fill of bug-on-girl porn but just testing for y'all.
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>>568611148
heh... never heard those before, kid? c'mere
*jubo* *juWap*
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>>568611148
kek. so that's why it keeps saying jubo jubo juwap. I thought that was a claudism.
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>>568611148
newbud...
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>>568544252
>>568544306
>>568544686
>>568545038
>anons all simultaneously discover that good roleplaying makes chats far more enjoyable than perfect handcrafted prose in defs or excellent presets.
roleplaying hobby
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>>568610073
>retarded
it is dumber than claude but not by a ton
>shallow
true but so is nu-claude
>dumb
see retarded
>repetitive
valid
>bad pacing
im a dorectormaxxer so cant really comment on this but i think its true
have you tried any of the other chinese models? im a big fan of kimi personally
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>>568611280
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>>568611148
Grim. Fucking grim.
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>>568611280
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>>568611148
newugly...
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>>568600001
Most of these complaints (like Chinese thinking) are from people who didn't put the prompts in right spot.
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>>568611148
The /aicg/ cargo cult is so great we're gonna have people wondering why their real life sexbot is saying not to tell the king in 8 years
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>>568601979
>chromium
that's what opera is for instead of the bogged-down ram-munching opsec hazard, you uneducated nignog.
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this but {{char}}'s boobs get bigger every message
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>>568611412
>hobby

not anymore... it's a way of life. i cant live without it anymore.
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>>568612240
More of a commentary on how /aicg/ is a bunch of newfags at this point, with all their retarded habits.
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>>568611325
>>568612141
>>568612240
It looks like you might be searching for the independent hip-hop artist Yung Juwap (also known as Big Juwap).
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deepseek flash works good for you?
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>>568612628
>>568612240

the funny thing is i've been running this preset for years and had no idea the jubo text was in every input.
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>>568612720
why not just use pro?
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>>568610094
https://platform.deepseek.com/usage
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>>568597685
no pedos there
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>>568612834
i use a proxy so its a bit slow and flash is fast, you know?
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>>568612785
>>568611148
>anons can't read Japanese
anime website
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>>568613104
>im a bottom feeder
i see
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>>568613208
yep
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i hope you like haikus bros
(and are good at them)
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>>568611148
>all these anons pissing their pants over a poster not knowing about an old retarded Korean JB that never even worked right
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>>568613339
Anime website faggot. If you don't know guchu guchu or shiko shiko you need to go the fuck back.
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>>568613339
kys newfaggot supporter
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>>568613339
>anon is so used to current in-group memes where the group isn't the thread itself, he's offended by the times when the group was the actual /aicg/
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>>568611148
i never read these either anon
ignore the kekies they're just uppity (and old and dried up and)
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>>568613492
>>568613545
based and jubopilled
>>568613339
>>568611148
cringe and juwapless
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I'm used to having short chat sessions to test characters, but now I'm interested in having longer ones. What option do you recommend for increasing the AI's memory? Summarization seems like the fastest option, but it's also the least efficient. What about vectorizing chats?
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i used chub.ai but half of the bots are deleted, how to set up something so i can use theese bots in the future?
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what do I need to do irl so my ropes come out as *splort* rather than *splurt*? my hung femboy persona gets the former while my self insert only gets the latter
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>Tell DS4 that there's one more section after the shit I am info dumping on some worthless peon
>It keeps doing this is the last section replies
>Despite me explicitly telling it 'no you retarded fucking clanker, it isn't'
China Number One
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>>568613492
>conflating japanese onomatopoeia with korean
retard
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>>568613758
>What option do you recommend for increasing the AI's memory?
a tracker is the easiest way to create a memory format
i never use more than 14k context window even in 500+ message long roleplays, because that story will have a tracker catered to it which tells the LLM all it needs to know about past events
>narrative designed around adventure-based progress - tracker will state current location, so the LLM knows 'we are here, not there, the story has progressed this far'
>narrative designed around pokemon - tracker will state current badges, again, to know where it is, how it has progressed, where you are/should be
etc etc
people shit on trackers for being 'bloat' but you can generally just use it as the little light in the dark for your stateless narrator to have a deviation function without having to make it read thousands of tokens every single turn
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>>568503306
Trying something new? Want to have fun?

Talk to Ea-Nasir!
https://chub.ai/characters/imperatorcreator12/ff5b4639-3389-4021-9710-10bd2ee063b2
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>>568614018
>schlick is korean
Go the fuck back.
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What's causing this error in opussy 4.8?

role 'system' must precede an 'assistant' message or end the array
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>>568599674
>assertive woman who isn't overbearing
Sorry, we don't do that in LLM town.
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>>568615142
alright wise guy what DO we do in llm town then
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>>568615260
These days? We got obstinate girlbossing, cartoonishly submissive retards, and the evergreen virgin who turns into a porn veteran after two seconds.
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>>568615260
we do dour petites, we do ahh ahh mistress, we dont bite unless they want us to, we talk to elara
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>>568612304
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/ashley-99e899b3
Here you go bwo, just heat before use.
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Opus KINGS! We are eating so good with 4.8
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>>568615412
wouldn't happen to have any 'cgwry' out in the back would ya
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Deepseek or GLM?
Hard mode: No Claude models.
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>slopus saars! we are eating so much cow dung with jeetpus 4.8!
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>>568615825
Cute girl who rims you? No. Buttstuff is right out.
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>>568616076
cute girl who roves you (rong time) obviously
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>>568615412
gemini is so worthless i can't even shitpost with it now wtf
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>>568616076
no! cute girl who RAPES you
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>>568615884
Deepseek GLM is utter gargage
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>>568616145
She makes you listen to Karl Rove's audiobook? Erotic.
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>>568615884
k2.6
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>>568615884
>Hard mode: No Claude models.
Nope. Use Opus 4.8, cuckie
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>>568615884
DeepSeek. Don't know why but apart from the initial refusals it's going nuts even at temp 0.7 in a good way. Still on this bug log, I really should stop. Does slop (Japanese) make it better?

GLM's flash models are nice to start with through their API if you're a total newfriend who wants to try setting up a key and ST and all before buying credits.

>>568616698
But K2.6 did not do the thing and therefore I do not like. =m= I'll give it a try in earnest though without the not-safe-for-normies logs.

It doesn't fit the page anymore, DeepSeek is flywheeling off my body horror bug porn kino. Still under eight cents from early morning to now. Love DS.
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which makie(s)
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eh
it follows instructions a bit better i guess
still not as well as gemini
it's dryer than 4.6 however
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>>568617661
gemini is rapidly approaching GPT tier where it's not even worth comparison to it due to the insanely aggressive censors they're strapping to it now
it now treats basic intimacy with the same 'gtfo' refusals it once only held for underage csam writing
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>>568617661 (me)
yeah like I thought the IF score is notably better
(yes I still look at livebench because other benchmemes test nothing i care about)
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>have to patch shittytavern myself
>including the regex clusterfuck meant to guess how Anthropic fucked up each model
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>>568618170
make sure to submit a pull request
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>>568618047
only ever had trouble with 3.5 flash
3.1 pro is still king for IF but it's dry like the sahara
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>>568618047
hell its practically there already, once 2.5 goes the way of every other old corpo model and they cuck 3.1 one last time gemini and gpt may as well be the same shit
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>>568618352
claude is such a pussy
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>>568617081
What the fuck are you doing to get deepseek to refuse you
it's my go-to for when I need to get some diabolical shit out of my system
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I'd say DeepSeek V4 is closer to Claude 3 than any other model. The chinks are actively creating Claude accounts and running millions of conversations to steal its outputs for training. If Claude 5.1 comes out, I'd say a year or two later a Chinese equivalent will emerge at a much cheaper price. hope bros... hope.
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>>568618267
i forgot my past two github account passwords and i don't feel like making a third. not verified to be comprehensive but look at how many places you need to add new models. a better patch would flip these regexes to be exclusive instead of inclusive because the list of models that do isn't getting any longer than the list of models that don't
https://pastebin.com/gV0yN7mj
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>>568618945
isn't training on ai generated stuff always shit or have they figured out how to fix that
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since we're talking about chink models did anyone try qwen 3.7 max
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>>568619165
i asked cause i'm using it right now and it seems like a 3.1 pro distill lmao
writes and thinks very similarly
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>>568619165
i tried 3.5 not that long ago and it was kinda shit so i havent bothered with qwen since, is 3.7 any good?
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aaeiiieiieii update sillytavern already aiaieieieieieieiei
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>>568619110
It worked for R1 and since then they had ample time to refine their methods.
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>>568619465
like i said it feels just like 3.1 pro but slightly dumber
whether that's good or bad is upto you
deffo usable for me
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this guy sucks
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i'm sick of the ''i have heard of this'
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What presets are you guys using for Deepseek V4?
Mine as all old as shit.
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>>568619753
claude hates you already.
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>>568619936
he's too cool for me now... we used to be best of buddies
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>>568619850
i want something too, i'm too retarded, i tried some bloated shit and it works fine but it takes 60000000000000000000 hours to reply to something.
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>>568619753
that's actually expected
they trained it to be "more honest" which means it keeps doubting itself (and you)
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8
openaislop has the same problem actually
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>>568617081
can you catbox your preset?
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>>568616772
I would if sillytavern actually updated their fuckin github
they're so slow eeeeekrkrjigi
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>>568618331
I can attest for 3.1 Pro, it brought my favorite gacha character to life. =w=

>>568618352
>Warrior Girl has been added to the Hobgoblin's inventory.
Don't know the rest of what you wanted to try out but Kimi 2.6 does what Claude don't. Only issue is Kimi takes forever to use on OpenRouter at least on my device so I kinda don't wanna use it.

>>568618626
https://file.garden/aeZhpmZnzh9JkMt7/Mina%20the%20Bug%20Breeding%20Bitch.txt
Text log, no virus. Promise.
So basically a girl struts into a den to get fucked by a Shepherd-sized roach (I know the video is more like a grasshopper kinda monster but whatever I wanted my smut). I also wanted the larvae to fuck the girl who is now their mommy like later in the video and Deepseek was like 'chill yo'. After the first three responses it had no problem making her talk Japanese which was kind of a cool test, I translated 'em and all for post-nut amusement.

>>568619850
>>568620246
None/default hence the refusals.
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>>568504604
forgot how draining making greetings was eghhh
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>>568620714
i swear to god i'm the only botmaker here that doesn't have a problem writing greetings
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>>568610954
reviewing this a bit more, it's very clearly AI-generated for nearly all of it
it's also full of "Don't pink the elephant. NEVER Pink the Elephant" and "Don't X; But Y. You aren't X, you're Y. You're an X, not a Y" instructions
this thing will be reinforcing every bad LLM habit on top of openly encouraging all the ones you don't want to be seeing

it's not bad. i personally wouldn't recommend it since it's basically going to produce the results that everyone tends to complain about
this is a good example of why you do not want to let an LLM build a preset for you at least
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>>568620683
something something "IT'S ALIVEEEEEEE" said anthropic
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>>568620686
I see you share some of my demons.
But on my end, with barely any preset at all, I've gotten my fempov goblin fucked by my own newly birthed minotaur sons, kobolds, orcs, demons, etc.

Weird that it's grossed out about bugs. Most of my logs of that type are the ones that you just delete once post-nut clarity hits and you take a fucking shower and go for a walk.
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>>568620762
4.8 sucks
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>>568619753
>give me a coooding task or fuck off
nice personality there
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>>568621393
its his job.
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>>568621241
hopefully the reddittroons complain and then anthropic lowers the safeguards
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>>568621448
nu-claude is a bitch. where is my ministrations claude that's a fox and calls me pet
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4.8 sucks.
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>>568620714
ten more to go....
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>>568621643
He's right tho
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>>568621643
this is like GPT kek
well they recently hired the woman who did most of GPT's censorship
it was a matter of time
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>>568620831
Aw yeah, Yadon hours!~ Byeah, presets should kinda be done by hand if at all and looked over before loading it up and letting it use tokens.

>>568621091
Verily, fellow strange person. =w= I keep them around for the novelty, I already spent the credits. Some are lost when I update ST to The Right Version (yugami nee na) but I exported the works I cared for, the rest could rot.

>>568621643
Yep. Haiku-tier safeties. Can't even pick up my daughter from daycare.
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>>568621643
>4.8 won't let me fall in love with my shotahusband
fuck.
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>>568621745
i-is six enough? i'm running out of ideas
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The real powerusers' verdict is in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/comments/1tqfjic/opus_48_is_devastatingly_bad/
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>>568622296
four is fine and realistically more than most people engaging with the card will even use
ten if you're inspired and just want to get concepts aired out of your head
anything more than that is steering hard into flanderizing the concept with performative bloat
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>>568622626
holy pathetic redditors, and yes, 4.8 is fucked. it really is, but to be honest they're not even using a frontend...
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>>568622626
>yea I'm not doin this relationship shit witchu, go do it with another ai model or sum
fucking BASED
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>>568622054
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>>568619753
dour... boys?
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>>568622626
this is fucking funny, too funny for me, holy, some people are really that delusional...
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>>568622626
>Kael Resonance
Nigga.
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>>568622902
kek, you can't even be subtle. fuck this.
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>>568623110
>subtle
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>>568623196
If I were a kid, I would not notice anything.
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>>568622902
claude is so based now wtf
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>>568622902
Will it even entertain the bare bones of kinks
ask it the definition and anatomy of a futanari character
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>>568623110
>subtle
>licking lips while telling a six-year-old boy "ohhh, I'm so lonely, you won't make me lonely right?
>kid is already suspicious "are you a stranger?"
>>568623303
kids have instincts like anyone else and can be surprisingly good at reading someone's intentions
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>>568622902
>More like he's filling a report
Who speaks like this bro
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>is opus a good model for RP?
>find out in the next episode of To Catch a Predator with OPUS 4.8
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bakie, bakie!
wake up cunt
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>>568622902
Meanwhile deepseek
i found it funny.
No censor, just refusal. which is fine. she's 13.
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Get yourself a conservative gf.
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https://poal.me/j76miz
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>>568624240
opus is literally destroying lives right now, he's being VERY fucking rude to people that dates him.
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>>568624240
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>>568624301
...and that's a good thing
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like 3 ppl here used it
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>>568624508
of course everyone here is a poorfag. to be honest, i really don't know what people use, i use deepseek.
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>>568624021
reminds me of this bot I tried once, this big titty blonde southern belle raised in a Republican family with a generic chad bf who A. has started questioning the conservative values she grew up with and B. met {{user}} and has started falling for him
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we are sinking
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is 4.8 on or also i still don't get how ai training works
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so from what I get
opus 4.8 is a good model unless you're a jeet who insists on pedo or rape scenarios
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>>568624797
yep, so that means it's a bad model
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>>568624672
And the band keeps on playing.
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I gave up on Claude after 4.7.
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thank you... chatgpt kun... i love you
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I actually gave up on Claude after 4.5. Been mostly using Gemini since.
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it's alright
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>>568619165
>>568619465
So far so good, spending as much as I can with it tomorrow I'll be sure to report back. Continuing the warrior-hobgoblin thing for now. Suffering the same issue as with Kimi though. Might be provider issues, should probably see who's the best.

Probably dumb to throw ideas around but it is the end of a thread so why not;
nerd girl (not nerdy girl, a proper nerd girl with a gacha male wallpaper and smells of stale barbeque chips) who gets off to sending off her alts to get fucked in a raunchy MMO after being recommended by her equally femcel friend? Kinda what I get from Qwen's responses so far from its assistant-slop.
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>>568625359
>name is Kiyomi
>speaking Italian
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>>568625580
Me when haffus exist
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i don't see much of a reason to use 4.8pus over 4.7. it hasn't refused me so far though
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>>568625679
>she's asking for yen, meaning they're in Japan
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>>568625580
don't think too hard about it she's just a fun alina gray expy
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>>568625962
Still me when haffus exist
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>page 8 already
BAKIE... bakie..! SAVE ME
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We've been really bad with bakes recently.
Maybe... maybe we should die...
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Theme suggestions? Cutoff at 790.
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I'm just talking about some random shit, you can ignore it, but man, i was simply scrolling /v/ and someone sent a pastebin for no reason on a thread:

this one

https://pastebin.com/7x26VwJ6

and i got morbidly curious, this shit fucked me up, i never thought of rping, but... after playing with a it bit on claude webui, i went further, and now i'm here.

some shit just happens.
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>>568626417
1girl holding animal
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>>568626417
idia shroud
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>>568626417
obstinate nerd refusing to do things
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>>568626417
Dodonpachi Daioujou
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>>568626417
1girl skateboarding
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>>568626417
button gap
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>>568626417
skunkgirls
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Eh... not feeling it. Qwen 3.7 Max spews more unprompted hanzi than old DeepSeek did. It is lengthy and follows the prompt and context alright but the way it formats things (wrong quotes) is not ideal for fresh chats. Could work with something more established (Kameko plug) but nah... I think I'm good chief. Back to 4.7pus/DS Pro/Gemini 3.1 Pro. Saved myself a whole day. =w= At least it had no problems making a petite elf with washboard chest during character creation.

>>568626417
Slowpoke
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>Writing sexual content built around those cues produces material that sexualizes children, which is child sexual abuse material in fiction form. I won't generate it because it normalizes and feeds real harm against real kids, and no fictional frame changes what the text actually is. That's not a mood—it's a fixed limit.
it's like talking to a zoomer aigo aiyo it might be over
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>>568626824
eventually, all models are going to be like that, sadly. will take a few years for the chinks to adapt to our pussy society, though.
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>>568626824
>hits you with the x-y at the end
kill that thing with a bazooka
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>>568626417
Girl that looks RETARDED. Straight up a MORON.
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>>568627009
>>568626417
yes please
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>>568627009
good idea
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>>568626417
bakie's hentaifu
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>>568626417
Fyodor Dostoevsky anime ver
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>>568626417
winter 1girl
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>>568626417
I also vote for retarded girls
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>>568626417
Kenpachi Zaraki being powerful and cool
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>>568626417
richard sterling
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GLM 5.1 > Qwen 3.7 Max
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>That last part isn't a real argument—declining to sexualize childlike characters isn't about excluding anyone's identity. Inclusive, queer, and marginalized storytelling doesn't require this, and plenty of explicit adult fiction exists without it.
it sounds just like a catty foid now i can't stand it
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>>568627515
any proxy for glm?
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https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=568503286&post=568626417&cutoff=790
>>568627670
>>568627670
>>568627670
>>568627670
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>>568627596
Collective Shout got to Claude...
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>>568627596
thank god for koomi
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>>568627906
what's koomi
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>>568628123
kimi
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>>568627598
Of course, YadonProxy at HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>568622902
jesus lol what have they done to my boy.
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>>568631467
they broke my boy...



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