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i think Reddit Quest 5 sucks!
The OP wasn't even updated...
>>568528449This OP is lazy as fuck considering we have a new game, yeah.
>>568528013Is dragon quest smash grow good? Ive never played a dragon quest game before. Also is it gacha? The only mobile games that keep my attention nowadays are gacha
We play as the bad guy...
>>568528561Yes it’s gacha but for armor and weapons for your character. Anniversary event is going on and you can get Erdrick armor or Gwaelins dress if youre queer or something, I think it’s decent personally
>>568527491Going from a demon prince to two little girls sure is a temperature difference.From the point of view of reach, I could see japanese boys picking up M3, but would they be drawn to M4? That feels more ojisan-exclusive.
Can you marry her in this game?
>>568528743that's not even the same crest
the pink haired girl in the XII trailer wasn't cute, it's over
>>568529053duh, it's different franchiseshowever you're gonna have to employ some pattern recognition skills here
It's her game
>>568528962>DQM1+2, spin-off of DQ6>DQM3, spin-off of DQ4>DQM4, spin-off of DQ5>DQMCH, spin-off of DQ7>DQM Joker, its own thingAm I getting it right?
>>568529643Maybe 9's world is the dreamworld that the MC visits?
>>568528743
>>568529643IX bros...
>It came to me in a dream, and I forgot it in another dream
>>568529509I don't think DQM2 has much to do with VI.
>>568529643VI -> XII -> IX -> X -> IV -> V -> Heroes
Horii is too old the chuuni edge of a dark game.Man just wants to rest.
>>568530003Aren't the two protagonists from some DQ6 location?
>>568529982He has had the same haircut forever
Next question: will Harry be in DQM4?
>>568529045She kind of reminds me of Bayo's daughter
Advanced just a little bit in v3 and really enjoying it so far. Still at the beginning of it though.
On vacation with family. Got 7 Reimagined on my hacked Switch as the game to play during downtime. Maribel is cute.
>>568530687I don't think so, he's a slave during that time period. Crispin, though, is guaranteed to appear since he's Flora's childhood friend.
No way that Flames of Fate playtest leak is real because if it was really that far in development and just had a few bugs to scratch, it wouldn’t have been scrapped to this extent.
>>568531863stranger things have happenedbut yeah probably not real
The new porns gonna go crazy
>>568530995Seeing Maribel with voice acting hits in an unexpected way.I played both the ps1 and 3ds versions, so seeing a "mute" game like this with voices is fresh.
>>568532315That’s awesome. This is my first time experiencing the story, I’m still a bit of a DQ newfag.
>>568530995Maribel is cute indeed.
>>568530995>>568532752If you really end up liking her (and can tolerate Dynasty Warriors) she and Ruff are also in Heroes 2.
Maribel STINKS
https://www.dragonquest.jp/monsters4/
>>568533128It's a good kind of stench.
>>568533143>Sun and moon in logo>In Rivals, the brides had a sun/moon/star themeNeato
The Final DQ protagonist drawn byToriyama.End of an era.
>>568533638Cute and funny.If DQM4 sucks, I'm gonna flip.Not that it matters for another 2 years.
>>568533875I think his offputting nature is charming.
>>568533143Coming soon has to mean this year right?
I was hoping that the reveal would put to rest all the speculation of what was going on during development but it looks like that isn’t happening anytime soon lol
>>568533875Unfortunately im glad he isn’t designing anymore
>>568534159wonder if they'll ever tell us
>>568533962Same. I like the sleep-deprived, tired eyes. I think having a hero like that is pretty cool
>>568533875It really is the hair for me, why did he have to give him this zoomer taper fade.
>>568533962I think he looks better in 3D than his 2D art
>>568533875He's grown on me a bit. His official art looks kind of bad but in the actual game he's OK. The main thing I don't like now is the leather armor pieces. Green man, on the other hand, I'm not sure is salvageable.>>568534159I just think it's fascinating that they came out swinging with this apparently bold concept and then completely changed gears behind the scenes.
>>568534019I said the same thing and then anons pointed out that they also said that they hope to release it before DQ12. Comboed with the no gameplay trailer that looked like it was made in an afternoon, I think its safe to say it's not coming anytime soon.
I wanna see debogaki
>>568534778Very cool
>>568534778seeing this pic makes me kinda hyped for his high tension look
The "XII" in the logo being slightly shifted to the right almost feels like a tribute to Zoma
>>568535075Look forward to the all-new innovative "gumption" system.
So how is the Dark Prince? Worth 10 burgers?
>>568535276Sure. It's not mindblowing but for ten bucks you'll at least get a kick out of it.
>>568530995>Got 7 Reimagined on my hacked SwitchI considered doing the same but I figured it must run like shit so I may just stick with the 3DS version
>>568535276It's nice if you enjoy DQ4, don't expect too much though.
Good to see the logo's red-and-blue alternation pattern is being kept intact.
>>568535413It’s been going pretty well for me so far but I’m not too far in.
OK, since Horii personally stepped in to say it's not actually Over™, I'll live up to my end of the bargain and buy Treasures.
>>568536240On the Hire This Man scale I guess it's fairly decent, but I really miss the DQ8 era.
I swore off monster collection games a long time ago, but I'm happy for the Monsters fans getting a new game
>>568534559Maybe they are saving the gameplay reveal for tokyo gameshow since it could potentially bring in non dragon quest fans
>>568535276steam version comes with all the dlc i belive so i would say you will at least have a 7/10 experience
I hope to god we don't have bow puzzle mechanics or shit like that because that shit fucking sucks
>even the japanese wanted the old version
>>568537470The one-two punch of a grimdark one and then a lighthearted one in quick succession would've been cool.
>>568537470Have people stopped to think that maybe it was scrapped because it was absolutely shit?
>Asks "what is the purpose of light?">Never answers
>>568537747No.
>>568536240Thank god there's a Slime.
>>568536719Why did you swear off on them? Too many disappointments?
>>568537747Maybe.
What's her vocation?
Gwaelin is the first video game character I've ever fapped to after playing DQ1 on GBC. Thanks for caring about this.
>Seeds of Salvation>Chapters of the Chosen>Hand of the Heavenly Bride>Journey of the Cursed King>Echoes of an Elusive Age>Beyond DreamsDragon Quest titles are usually so strong, they feel like the names of legendary epics. What happened with XII?
>>568538175strong womyn
>>568538240Premium taste.>>568538427Spend all their alliteration points on "The Flames of Fate".
>>568538017I like to do all the content in games, and many such games require meta-gaming to complete it all, sometimes up to a competitive level, and I'm not cut out for that shit.
>>568538175Christmas Cake. When it turns out she's barely 20 I'll be disappointed.
>>568538976I like Bianca's hair in this design but I'm mixed on the funny jackets.
They're saving the last Monsters game for a Terry remake aren't they?
>>568533550she is in
>>568539605No more remakes please
>be playing smash/grow>dqi event ongoing>npc character looks like marle.
>>568540356okay maybe not a remake but an adult Terry game
>>568540146I know, I genuinely think it's cool that they hung onto that theming from Rivals.>>568540530He doesn't need another DQM, but Terry in a character action em up would be fun.
why couldn't Tact get a port
>>568539541Never seen a poncho before?
i think i rather keep Hero, Erdrick for smash. maybe have Arus (I) and Midenhall (II) take solo and eight's spot.
>>568540930Midenhall is a no-magic retard even more than ever now, he wouldn't really fit.
Beyond Dreams is a cool title
dragon quest should have its own dissidia
Zenithia HD2D when
>>568533875He honestly looks okay in action as long as you're not looking at the fade.Ideally you'll be able to make him wear equipment like the lizard's armor that covers its ugly mug.
>>568540225Looks like the protag of Joker 2.
>>568541982I just want Heroes with a better online mode as far as action spinoffs go
monsters 4 will save us
>>568546931Vaguely suggestive aura
JUSTUST
>>568548375Based
>>568537747It's Square Enix, this is a retarded company so it might actually have been really good an interesting but they got afraid and went full retard and decided lets just restart from scratchUnfortunately we will never know since we never got to see the original version outside of the logo.
>>568537470Do you think that they're a monolith or something? Horii is a perfectionist and he killed Flames of Fate because he didnt like it.
Dragon Quest 6
>>568537625>>568550942DQ already covers a lot of dark themes and concepts, especially in the older games. The so called "gritty game" would just be an aesthetic shift at best.
>>568551326aka westernized slop
I think they restarted development of Dragon Quest 12 because of the failure of Final Fantasy 16. FF16 had a similar premise as DQ12. "Make it dark and mature and it will appeal more to the west". FF16 also turned completely into an action game with barely any RPG mechanics left. In the end FF16 only sold 3 million copies, much less than DQ11's 8.5 million. Sure DQ11's sales mainly come from Japan and part of the huge number is due to the multiple ports and rereleases of DQ11... but it's still 8.5 million sales, nearly triple of FF16 and FF16 had no legs, nearly all of its sales came at launch and then the sales cratered immediately. With these elements in mind I think it's fair to say that they didn't have hope in Fates of Flame and restarted development afterward.
It’s kind of insane that they didn’t announce that they scrapped Flames of Fate for literal fucking years
Being a game about dreams...The first half of DQ12 will be a premonitory dream.Source: my own premonitory dream.
These threads are going to be fucking unusuable because they managed to attract both /vpol/ and FF schizos in one 10 minute stream.
Withered Tree (to be) wife
>>568553526It's gonna inevitably blow up in the faces of /v/tards at least, since every game that sells has to be "anti-woke" or whatever, and this game will inevitably do well in Japan.
>>568551793This theory is retarded for several reasons and I think to insist on it you have to be an FF fag who only knows about DQ second or third hand.The reason why they didn't do the darker game was simply because it wasn't the right time in all likelihood.Sugiyama died, Toriyama even in 2023 was getting surgery and brain scans done and not looking too good, and they'd just gotten out of a pandemic where surely a lot of people they knew died (since they're all fucking old).It's far more likely that DQXII just got scrapped because it would've been in poor taste or just not something Horii would want to present as being released after all of that.
>>568548375The woke censorship made me skip III and VII remake.
>>568552010How many years are we talking about?
>>568555195We don’t know for sure but with current dev cycles I’d wager 2.
>>568554525I dunno man I think "They changed their mind for financial reasons" makes a lot more sense than "They changed their mind because some people died" actually.
>>568555414If it was financial they wouldn't have cancelled a numbered DQ title, which would inevitably recoup any costs.Anyone citing "financial reasons" at all is a newfag.
>>568555414>>568554525The influence of FF on DQ is just conspiracy theory shit. We do know that after DQ2, Horii has become a serious perfectionist and has no qualms with redoing games from scratch or making very big changes late into development. This is probably another DQ Treasures scenario and the old Flame of Fate will get repurposed because it doesnt fit the aesthetic he wants for a numbered entry.
>>568555720More likely I imagine Flames of Fate will just return as DQXIII.
>>568555089What was censored in 3?
what am I in for/what should I know? never played a monsters game
>>568538175Artificer>>568540146> will appearGod damn, we got scraps.
>9 years since XI and all we have to show for XII is a short teaser that just got revealedgrim. I feel like this game isnt coming out until 2029 at least.
>>568556694Fun.>what should I knowUhhh have fun, catch and breed everything, once you get the equivalents of HMs there's some bonus stuff if you backtrack. Ice world best world.
>>568556694play the 3DS version, and start with terry's instead (aka monsters 1)>butthey got translation patches, and you can easily find the already translated game online>butemulate it just like you're emulating that one, your phone is more than capable of doing it
It's literally right there. They even got a robot too.
>>568560681>game is dream themed like VI>VI's development happened during CT's developmentmaybe Horii wants to relieve his memories of the dream team project
Thank you, X (formerly Twitter), user. We have only seen that same image posted about 25 times since yesterday.
Theirs no reason to pick flora over bianca.The elf part when you're a kid should have been written to have her with you during it so they can showcase her personality like bianca got with the haunted house bit
>>568560681God the dragonman is so fucking ugly no matter how many times I see him.>>568563370I'll pick flora to make all of you beg me for my version exclusives.
>>568559819yeah no Im not playing a 3ds game on picrel even if its technically possible. I highly prefer the comfy gbc presentation anyway and all the sources online seem to indicate the original version is great as is.>>568559621just mash random monsters together or is there some kind of strategy to this? I just finished oasis world so I should probably start breeding soon
>>568566392lel>>568564913Honestly I don't remember, I just mashed random monsters together until I get a strong one. Unless you're a completionist it shouldn't matter that much.
>>568563370I would rather spicy arrabiata but in its absence I will pick mild bolognese spaghetti over whatever backwater food they serve in Stockenbarrel.
>>568567486a hundred flavors of stew, most likely
>>568566392so we're all in agreement Twelveo is a werefurry?I mean it's not exactly new for the protagonist to be half dragon after all
>>568553312That’s just fucking Zeztz.
>>568567993No, I think the dragon guy is just a soldier of the same kingdom and they're wearing a similar uniform.
>Lucca, Robo and EpochLITERALLY STEALING FROM CHRONO TRIGGER
>>568568656Chrono trigger is a Horii game
>>568568656>Chrono Trigger stole Horii's attention from DQ6>Horii steals from Chrono Trigger for his DQ6-quelPottery.
>>568568656Everyone stealsSometimes from themselves
>>568540356DQM 1 & 2 3D really could use a remake. Not just for an official translation and availability on new system, but also to bring back online battles and fix the unavailability of online-only monsters.
Do you think we will have a smaller party this time? I would not mind like 5 people max as long as they aren't all humans
>>568570991Unless the battle system's completely different I want at least 8 guys. DQ is always more fun with a full bench and from VII-XI only one game actually had that.I also just realized that the sci-fi tech might make a cozy wagon less likely. Shame, that was a minor complaint I had with XI too. It just adds something to the adventure.
>>568568656>stealing from a game he wrote
Tattoo girl doesn't look anything like Lucca. Superficially she reminds me of the girl who takes over the story in the new part of Sand Land.
>>568571381I don't mind a bigger party if there's individual skill tree for each. Whenever I got vocation I end up with much of the same late game.
>>568572207DQ3HD basically boils down to Sage/Thief/Merchant at the end anyway.
>>568572295Enough to make a demon(lord) cry
>>568572295Twelveo the dragon killa
>>568572295Fornicate thou
>>568572295Doce, el exterminador de demonios
>>568572295FUCK YOU
>start playing DQ 11S>change to JPN dub>my weebass can differentiate the dub and the text being differentAm I going to have to play with JP text too? Will I have to learn moonrunes to not get tilted at the game?... 'Oy mate
>>568573678Many DQ games are like that.You either use the fake meme script or learn Jap
>>568573678Change to English you fucking wanker apart from bandana girl the VA is solid throughly.
>>568573678I don't know what to tell you anon but most JP games have been like this since the beginning, specially Dragon Quest.
>>568573678Turn the voices off retard. And play with JP text. The beepboops will let you differentiate male and female characters and that's all you need.
>>568573678>play video game>the translation is inaccurate and changes a lotWoah...
>>568572295>Dost thou love me, Donte?>Fuck you.>But thou must.>Fuck you.>But thou must.>Fuck you.
>>568574803Just because it happens constantly doesn't mean it's not noteworthy
>>568572295I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit
Wasn't expecting her to have a fanclub of ogre otakus...>>568553526Isn't just the same shit as 3? And that game did super well. At the end of the day you should just ignore retards that don't even play these games.
>>568575386It really isn't. The thing is, these popular AA or AAA video games, they're made for a very big audience, and their translations are done with the same expectations. It's not some random guy on the lower levels enforcing this, specific people in the company hire specific people to write translation style guides that do this, and it's for a variety of reasons.The big one is simply to appeal to the domestic market. So no, it isn't noteworthy at all, because this is just business and if you really cared, you would've actually learned Japanese years ago because this has always been the case, even the older translations of DQ are riddled with poor translations and inaccuracies (even ignoring the fact that over half the Japanese games brought over at the time just had completely made up American specific stories).
>>568540146https://x.com/i/status/2059820450457534753
>>568575895Yeah, you can write paragraphs about how it's fine, but at the end of the day it still sucks ass.
>>568576242NTA but I think this is more about “the game is nearly 10 years old and we’ve been over this 500000 times.”
No, the localization is never going to improve.You can learn Jap or accept the burger script will be butchered shit by failed writers.
Will XII dare to have a cutie this cute?
> Square Enix is live on Twitch > Nier Automata Wtf, and right in front of my DQ day
>>568573678>>568574803>>568575386>>568575895>>568576242>>568576743In a recent interview with Famitsu, Dragon Quest series creator Yuji Horii and Paranormasight series director Takanari Ishiyama (who also worked on DQX) had a “master and disciple” discussion to commemorate the launch of Paranormasight: The Mermaid’s Curse. With both creators being prolific storytellers and writers, much of the discussion was dedicated to their know-how and peculiarities when approaching a game scenario, like Horii’s manga-inspired technique of almost completely abandoning narration in favor of dialogue. Interestingly, the topic of localization also cropped up, with Ishiyama expressing concern that his obsessive pursuit of the perfect word choices and phrasing in The Mermaid’s Curse may end up being for naught when translated into other languages (the game released with day one English and Chinese language support). In response, Horii commented, “When it comes to English, the flavor tends to get lost in many ways. Things inevitably end up sounding simplistic.” As one example, Ishiyama brings up the variety of first-person pronouns available in Japanese – like ore, boku, washi, watashi, etc. While each of these can reflect the speaker’s gender, age and even personality traits, in English, they all become simply “I.” Horii seems to consider the shortcomings of Japanese-to-English localizations a result of inherent differences between the two languages, commenting, “I’ve come to accept that English is a simple language, so there’s no helping it.” On the other hand, he feels that this issue has been somewhat improved with the introduction of voice acting in games, given that voiced lines create extra room to convey a character’s traits through tone and delivery.
Horii is not going to stress himself over the english loc because he thinks english is fundamentally a single language and so its not going to be the same as what he originally wrote. Maybe if we had someone with good translation and writing skills in addition to not being bound to whatever notions, then maybe we could get a really good translation but since that does not exist, you will simply have to learn Japanese or just cope.So just leave the thread and stop wasting everyone's time.
>you don't get it bro, pafu pafu is extremely intricate and lost on westerners
This shit always reminds me of that post about Japs discussing king of the hill dubbed or subbed. Post it.
>>568568628>Like in DQ6, the hero and his buddy sign up to be soldiers
>>568572295Well, I know what I’m naming him
I do think a dual world/dream world plot is likely. The coat of arms in the arena where the lizard man is fighting is twin lions on a half red half blue field.
XII protagonist looks woke and retard.Even gasha MC looks better.
>>568580150Ok ESL-kun.
> you'll play my game again on Switch 2™, won't you, Anon?
To go theorycrafting schizo based on the very little info we have: I think it’s possible some of the central ideas of Flames of Fate got heavily reworked instead of tossed out when development restarted. DQ has touched on the idea of “humans vs monsters” several times and maybe the “dark world” of XII was going to be about a world where the MC is fully a monster trying to be a hero in a world ruled by monsters. And instead they decided to go with a hero who turns into a monster in his dreams and have it more about both sides coming to an understanding of each other.
>>568580150A character not being a 10/10 model doesn't mean it's woke. DQ games always had silly character designs, like the Slime looks like he's mocking you instead of looking like a cool dangerous monster, Ragnar was an old man in a lame armor, etc, Toriyama principles which you could find in classic Dragonball as well.Imperfections can make things more memorable, if everything is attractive like a chinese/korean manhwa, then it's less memorable as well.
Is the pastebin up to date about what versions to play?
>>568577767>I’ve come to accept that English is a simple language, so there’s no helping it.as an esl i agree, but it's not like japanese isn't mostly "me go work, me like jelly filled doughnut". The hardest part is having to learn all the gorillion different ways to say those words, and to recognize moon runes fast enough to read them
>>568582898Don't think so but it's still kinda accurate. If you like the HD-2D look you could play the new remakes for 1 to 3 as well (I and II are pretty different from the SFC versions but still pretty good).
>>568582214Maybe if there were some graphical upgrades.
>>568582898the final fantasy general hasn't updated their pastebin for like 15 years now, dead franchise lol
Is the downgrade of the party chat in VII reimagined too big? I searched online and it seems like some dialogues are there, and some aren't?
>>568584532Yeah, the remakes are on sale so I was thinking about them. Not played the originals.>>568585229lol
>>5685857323DS version dropped the in-battle party chats. Which wasn't the most extensive outside of some boss fights.Reimagined chopped out a bunch of contextual party chat so most of the time you just get the generic reminders of the next main objective
>>568585732It was drastically reduced. In the original/3DS version party members react to every story beat and every bit of NPC dialogue. Reimagined is basically just “go to the next objective”. The original PlayStation game also had a chat command during battles that was cut from the 3DS version.
>>568586127>>568586294I see, a shame because the party chat stuff from the 4-7 era was some of the most charming stuff in the games, kinda like the Tales skits.
>>568586294so basically every version of VII is kinda bad and there's no real definitive version?
>>568586552Lol in my opinion yes kind of. I like the original 7 a lot but wish the job system was better and think the game structure could be better.
>>568563370Flora has always been my favorite
>>568586552More like a "pick your poison".Having cut battle party chat isn't that big of a deal compared to overworld party chat.The translation in the 3DS version is more flowery and detailed, the translation of the ps1 version is straightforward but can be a bit too dry which doesn't make it more "accurate", it's still a PS1 game translation after all so they get some details of what a character meant outright wrong.Reimagined has visuals that are easy on the eyes, voice acting, and a better vocation system.Some things can outweight the others depending on the person. I guess if you could play PS1 JP that would be the purest version since you get all the "content" without needing to consider translation differences, but not everybody can dedicate 3k hours to learn nip for a slime massacre simulator.
>>568586552A rework for the game would need to go a lot further than Reimagined to actually address the issues most people have with it, and I say that as someone who likes the game as it is.
so do we think gameplay for monsters 4 is getting shown at summer game fest or tokyo game show? summer game fest would possibly draw in more westerners that don’t typically play the games where as tokyo game show could draw in slightly more japs
>>568587424>Reimagined has visuals that are easy on the eyesFor the blind maybe
>>568586491Yeah. It really makes me nervous about what they might do with 4-6 if/probably when they get remade.
>>568580150The irony of an Indian complaining about an Indian coded MC
Finally getting around to playing the mobile versions and why do they look better than the console versions of the mobile? The sprites aren’t super blown up like on console, such a bizarre change
>>5685880607 was DQ6 on steroids for better or worse, to the point that its length became infamous and each successive remake has tried to shorten it.4-6 wont have that problem, especially 6 which is likely to get MORE content
>>568588060The point of contention for 5 is Debora being included or not.Suffice to say, I meant the comments from M4 will make staff realize that people like Debora (and it's not like they forgot her in the first place, she just isn't one of the protagonists, could be a rival instead).
Been meaning to play V for a while now, but I'm not sure which version to get. Is the iOS version good, or should I just get the DS version?
>>568588423They're putting Debora in the new Monsters I doubt they'd leave her out of a remake. At this point the people who played 5 on DS first are oji-sans too.
>>568588430DS is good.The mobile version recommendation used to be for 4, because 4ds cut out the party chat in the english release but it was present in the mobile release.Nowadays though there's a mod for 4ds so it adds party chat back, so no need to play with touch controls.
>>568588430ios version is the ds version but with party chat in the west. you can also just patch the party chat into the western ds version
>>5685883456 getting modern QOL like objective markers will shorten it even further cause like 30% of the game without a guide is trying to wrestle plot triggers or trying to remember if the next objective is in the real world or dream world
>>568588430>>568588771thought you said iv because i half read stuff my b
>>568588345>>568588423I was specifically talking about party chat. In V especially it's a game changer, and I don't think II HD style cutscenes would make up the difference.>At this point the people who played 5 on DS first are oji-sans too.Ouch...>>568588430>>568588771It's only IV that didn't have party chat on DS. V and VI have it no matter which version you play. The only real difference between V on DS and phone besides the interface is that they added a casino prize to the phone version that makes monsters easier to recruit, so if you have mons tism and want to catch em all that might be helpful.
>>568588423>(and it's not like they forgot her in the first place, she just isn't one of the protagonists, could be a rival instead)Bargain.Hang in there,lad. Eventually you'll reach acceptance
>>568589138A rival role could be more memorable than a MC role since you could get Debora being sassy like a Gary Oak type.We will see.
Wonder if the guy that did the designs for smash/grow did the designs for little flora and little bianca. They are so good
>>568589127>they added a casino prize to the phone version that makes monsters easier to recruit, so if you have mons tism and want to catch em all that might be helpful.Sounds fun on paper until you notice the touch controls.Good controls aren't a good trade-off for recruiting monsters, the time you will lose walking in weird ways will still make your playthrough slower/take longer compared to just having a functional d-pad.
>>568589783You can’t connect a controller and use it?
>>568572295is that Donte's jacket?
>>568591813No.You could technically emulate the android version and use d-pad inputs to imitate touches in specific spots, but it's still clunky since you would need to with WASD and mouse like it's a fucking FPS, and also dunno if it was just me but it was kinda laggy with input delay.
>>568557893sexo
>>568586491We will never get a game with as much ambition in the dialogues than in DQ5 cause holy shit the amount of dialogue in the party chat they put in those games, every playable chara had something to say for any place you go whenever its night or day and pretty much every fucking npc
Looks like our visitors are gone (until the next trailer drops).We can go back to posting about which characters smell bad now.
Hey twitter fags if you see this FUCK YOU.
>>568600224this is the kind of thing you get as a passion project from one guy interested in writing this stuff for himself and not caring that the average player will only see 5% of it, and won't get from big budget projects with management asking why you're paying that guy to waste work hours doing nothing
>>568600616Why would Twitter fags be here?
didn’t realize so many in japan were disappointed with monsters 3, seeing a lot of posts with a fair amount of likes talking about issues with it in jp. feels like americans dick sucked the fuck out of it despite it being subpar
>>568602275For most gaijins that liked the series their last official access to it was Joker 2 (not-pro) so they didn't know all the shit in the JP only games that 3 was missing.
>witcher 3 has sold 65 million copies before dragon quest 12
>Official: "A bright and exciting world" >Me, after DQ relentlessly drained my MP: "I'm not falling for this."
>>568593830This is would be too good to happen. This shit probably is a Western only dialogue as well
>>568602275Western players have abuse victim mentality after having so many Monsters releases withheld. >We have to shill the game and get more people to buy it or else we'll never get one again
>>568602789Give me a running gag of Twelve falling asleep during puff-puffs
Twelve-kun shoving away busty bunny girls so he can stick his face between a pair of pillows and get some fucking rest
>>568602275I saw a couple of posts saying like "I want to use meat again, not that Scout stuff!"You can get the vibe that the jp DQ fanbase wants the oldschool stuff
>>568551631>>568551793Take your meds.
Twelve with a 200% weakness to Snooze
>>568605260When Twelve casts Snooze it also puts him to sleep
>>568605260Twelve is Estark?
>>568605260Weak to Snooze but always wakes up in 1 turn
Will we finally see Mottle Slimes again?
>>568603025>>568604673I have officially warmed up to Twelve.
the twist in 11 is absolute dogshit btw
T.T
i liked the mobile versions of 1&2 more than the hd2d despite them looking much worse
>>568608408There's something to be said for elegant simplicity.
>>568605651That's Terry
>>568608631especially on replays, cutscenes just get in the way and the way of getting items in the new one just drags
>>568608637Terry has a 200% weakness to dinosaur pussy
>>568608408Those are basically ugly ports of the SFC games which I think are the best way to play. Lots of the most nostalgic Japanese ojisans only ever played the SFC version too.
For the past 2-3 years I was certain the only time we’d see a XII trailer was on DQ Day. Now that the game has been revealed and the only other confirmed DQ game is Monsters 4, there will be a chance we see a trailer at all the big gaming events. Not in any of the upcoming ones (well, maybe Monsters in a Direct) but potentially TGS or Jump Festa.
>>568608408DQI is unironically superior with less content, it feels like a completely different genre from a JRPG. To me it feels more like an arcade game, especially in Japanese with the password system. The fact it's such a short game you can bumrush gives me a kind of rush no other game has ever given me. Making multiple enemies appear in remake ruins the point too, the 1v1 was perfectly balancedDQII needed the extra fluff. It's also fine as a limited game, but they never really got the balance right. Cannock suffers the most as a character because his utility was always ass even with previous remake buffs. Cause of that it's just more fun to replay DQIII. Just feels like a more realized version of II
>>568606579I have seen a lot of people switch from their initial bad reaction to Twelve thanks to fanart
>>568611249That still means in the in game model and official art are shit and should be different btw
>>568611317>in gameI think his face looks way better ingame than his art even from the little we saw
>>568611537I hate both
>>568609681>Those are basically ugly ports of the SFC games which I think are the best way to play.DQ1 and 2 are actually distinct for mobile. 1&2 SFC were based on 5, while 3 was more based on 6. The mobile ports bring them closer stile-wise to 6 and 3SFC which I think have better art than 5 and 1&2SFC did. The thing I'd agree on being ugly about 'em is the UI and font due to being too HD, but the mobile pixel art is damn solid, picrel (fastest screenshots I could grab), just a shame that the pixel scaling isn't quite right on the tiles. You're probably thinking of the console versions of the mobile ports that use higher resolution sprites which... yeah those look rough, you can feel the mismatch
>>568612228The overworld character sprites in the mobile versions still look pretty bad, and they're obviously oversized compared to the world that was ripped directly from the SFC games. The console ports are way worse, and I don't think the actual SFC versions were lookers either, but it's still not ideal.The GBC version is still the best & cutest.
>>568610207There will probably be a longer trailer coming up, they haven't uploaded the clip from the stream as a separate video yet
what if Twelve becomes Dr.agon
>>568612768>The overworld character sprites in the mobile versions still look pretty bad, and they're obviously oversized compared to the world that was ripped directly from the SFC games.I guess I'll just disagree then, but fair enough. I was never a fan of the early SNES look DQ5 and FF6 that just kinda felt like NES with added shading, specially not compared to what was done later in the console, probably why I think the mobile versions look better, I really like the character sprites being more in the style of 3 SFC personally. Though on retrospect, I can see what you mean by them being too big, they did resize stuff for DQ3 on SFC compared to the original version didn't they?>SpoilerYou know what? I respect it, yeah those versions were definitely very charming, something about GBC 8bit stuff has a very unique look to it (probably a consequence of needing to account for mostly light backgrounds as opposed to mostly black ones on NES just so you could see the damn thing)
I have a theory that Twelve was originally in Flames of Fate, but due to the backlash that was FFXVI they retooled the game and any existing characters in Flames of Fate are in Dream Beyond.>>568603025why is it a trend starting from 8 all protagonists have brown hair?
>>568613367Dr. Agon is the Dragonlord's great-grandson's son. Trust the plan.
>>568614331i know the transformation is a possibility, but why did the uniform he wears swap?
>>568614735Maybe they’re different characters who just happen to be in the same faction or army.
>>568614916There's a non-zero chance it's a reference to DQ6 where you and Carver both join the army.
>>568613389>backlashFF16 really makes everyone insane huh
>>568616201I think the problem here is the developers watched Game of Thrones and Expedition 33 too much to make their game succeed only to fail.
>>568616980E33 didnt even fucking exist when FF16 came out. What is it with that game that makes everyone retarded?Yoshida just tried to cater too many people at once and pleased no one because everything either feels unfinished or blatantly held back to avoid offending people.
>>568617308I love E33, but fuck, it attracted such an annoying group. So many people who clearly haven't played any jrpg since the ps3 days and keep repeating the same tired takes.
i wish veronica would do things with me.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144489325yeah it's AI, but people keep telling me to take advantage of what's going on now before it's too late.
>>568618332do you think the people who played E33 never actually played an RPG before? I think they only like it because of its cinematic look and realism.
i will never play e33 because the fanbase are faggots
After having a day to decompress, sleepy-kun is growing on me.But I'm still not sure about the haircut.
>>568619202The fact they have a website ready i really do think they will show off the game in the next 3 months
>>568618858If E33 actually did prevent DQ or any other series from sliding into action combat or if it somehow helps rescue FF I'll be grateful, but I have no interest in playing it. I don't like the way it looks and the twist sounds like it would ruin the game.
Tfof is our versus xiii, but even that still had footage and gameplay before getting canned. We only got a logo and a 10 second teaser, grim.
what exactly was great about DQ Swords
Will they have stupid accents?>>568621505Looks great, weirdly has a soundtrack not by Sugiyama (and it's good). Just a funky idea.
>>568621326When I see him in actual Toriyama style art, he looks fine. The concept art they showed in the stream did not feel like that, and the models in game look a bit weird too.
>>5686194903 didn't take too long to come out once they announced itthe fact they showed a logo, the main characters and a new monster makes me believe they do have a game that isn't in production phase stillreally hope it'll be as good as 2 and Joker 3 gameplay-wise
>>568614735doesn't have to be either thing, but if Twelveo can animorph i guess they gave his fursona a different outfit (more than one, he also wears that armor) to not spoil it, as in the game is like IX so every equipment piece shows up on your character and that's how they have different clothes
>>568621891that's cause that drawing didn't give him his crackhead eyes, which is something i'm seeing lots of fan art is doingnot that i can blame people for doing that
>>568622496>so every equipment piece shows up on your characterGod I wishI was surprised the Xenoblade remaster even redid all the armor models and added more when even that series stopped doing it after the 2nd game.
will nera (or is it flora) boyfriend show up?
>>56862179811 had an area with Italian accents right? I think it was some seaside town? Maybe I'm just misrembering
>>568624159yeah, I want sex with italian woman
>>568624159Gondolia, it was a port town yeah.
>>568624159Hotto, Gondolia, and I think Sniffelheim had some accents slapped on.
If Debora is confirmed as a rival, can we all agree that Nera is the official protagonist? I mean it's simply more fitting than Bianca.
>>568625278Whoever you play as is going to be a silent protag anyways, which is a little unfortunate
She's cute!Also, 3.0 was surprisingly short.
okay bros what difficulty for III HD-2D?
>>568626290Draconian Quest is good enough, most of the difficulty comes from both the early game and some of the new boss fights they added.
>>568626561I'll do it
>>568621505good character designs, good music, motion gimmick was still a cute novelty and not something people dreaded
>>568622086I really can’t wait, Flora is the cutest in the world
>>568625756saw a fan art of her eating a burger years ago and have never seen it again since
>>568626962You can change difficulties at any time anyways, like if you wanna stop and grind for a bit you can turn on Dragon Quest mode to speed up the process,
jesus smash/grow is either a massive drain on my battery or my phone is just old.
Why doesn’t Yuji Horii yell at Squenix usa till they translate X?
>>568628053if XII was underdevelopment for almost a decade it's baffling we didn't get X during the inbetween.
what events were played throughout since day 1 of smash n grow?
>>568582214I'd buy an upgrade if it existed, but Stupid-Enix gonna Stupid-Enix.
>>568609681What about the GBC DQ1+2? I played those and thought they were pretty good, 20-25 years ago.
>>568629570Pretty straightforward ports. I know 2 GBC tried to buff green cousin a bit but he still kinda sucks, and gave the party some innate resistance to instakills so the suicide monkeys won't just wipe you every time they manage to explode
>>568582214if it had ps4 or ps5 level performance before switch existed.
>>568626816I want to do terrible things to him
i was surprised how kindly everyone treated her even after the twist
>>568627658>Psst! Hey, kid. Wanna be a Pokemon master?
The reveal put me on a DQ mood again, what I should play? Here's what I've played so far:DQ1DQ3DQ4DQ8(Dabbled into some 9 but lost my save before finishing)DQ11Monsters Joker 1
>>568633027VI seems most relevant to XII even if a direct story connection hasn't been confirmed. Obviously DQM4 is connected to V, but also it's DQM4 so you could try playing that series from the beginning if you liked Joker at all.
It's kind of funny to see some people running to connect XII to IX.
>>568633953I feel like you'd need a decade of playing X to really be able to speculate properly on that.
>>568634112Can't wait to go on another adventure with my tiny wife.
>>568637134please do not the saber
>>568638616do not what?
Just saw the news. Why the fuck does the new hero look like John Highguard?
He's so ugly I love him
>>568639406Dragon = OverQuest = Watch
so which mainline game doesn't have a spinoff entry.
>>5686396251: Kenshin, Builders 12: Builders 2, Caravan Heart (sort of)3: N/A4: Torneko's Mystery Dungeon, Monsters 35: Monsters 46: Monsters 17: Caravan Heart8: Yangus's Mystery Dungeon, arguably Rocket Slime9: N/A10: N/A11: TreasuresNot counting full series crossover stuff.
>>568639625>>568639625DQ1 has BuildersDQ2 has Builders 2DQ3 = ?DQ4 has the Torneko games and Dark PrinceDQ5 has DQM4DQ6 has DQM1DQ7 has Caravan HeartDQ8 has Yangus Mystery DungeonDQ9 = ?DQ10 = Dragon Quest X Offline, maybe?DQ11 = TreasuresSo we don't have DQ3 or DQ9 spin-offs, maybe you could do like a young Ortega game, or some spin-off featuring Stella.
>>5686400323 could have a city building spinoff for the merchant town
>>568640386the world is peaceful by the time DQ II HD happens, so who knows what's going on there.
dragon quest builders 3 would be technology vs nature theme.
>>568639598Woah...
How long until they start calling the lizard thing a trans allegory
>>568641212>he doesn't know
>>568588060>>568589127I felt 6 had the most party chat. Was it actually 5?
>>568642270It probably has more since it's longer and has a lot more human party members who are consistently with you. The chat in 5 is really high quality though, especially for the brides and kids. 6 has its moments but it's not on the same level.
>>568641212Don't know why you'd think this would happen when /v/ has already asserted the protagonist is 100% Indian.
surprised how no one bring up how Twelve straight up looks like a crackhead
I want to do unwholesome things to Jessica's mom
OP anon here. I finally updated the OP pastebin a bit. Take a look and let me know if anything else needs to be updated. Holy fucking shit the captcha is fucking garbage now what happened?
>>568628260Perfect time to get it translated, no one is saying they have to do it all at once, release v1-v3 at first and then give us v4 5-6 months later and then after try and do 1 version a year to draw out peoples subscriptions till we reach the final version
>>568633027dqv
>>568639963>>568640032>3 has nothing despite being the most iconic game in japanese pop cultureHow did this happen?
Isn’t 11 technically a 3 spin off
well I certainly didn't expect the annual DQ event to be announcing that all of 12 is completely scrapped lmfao
>>568645442They're probably making a Builders 3 based on DQ3 at some point, but yeah it's still strange it has no spin-offs.
>>568646614hopefully the negative reaction even in japan makes them try and do something besides just monsters 4 to fill the void, a remaster of swords or one of the dungeon games could be fast turn around
>>568646614Yeah... I kinda wish they pushed through with the og 12 and then made this new project the 13.But I guess we're in a privileged position of BEING ABLE TO LIVE. All the main 3 will soon become dust and maybe Horii doesn't want to end in an somber experimental note.
give the next mainline game to the hd2d team so it’s finished in 3 years
DQB2 made me cry>>568644949V also made me cry
>>568644345Looks good to me, nice work anon. I don’t know if guideanon is still here but I might be able to slap something together to update the graphic if he isn’t.
maybe the pink hair girl will turn into an ogre in the dream world
>>568633027Become a man and play 2.
>>568647320I'd rather a new MD than another remaster/remake/port.
It still makes me smile that they gave Malroth back his Fullheal in 2 HD, even if he only does it once so it's really just a health bonus.>>568651009Yeah, it's crazy that it's been so long and they haven't cranked another one out.
>>568568274Even better that it has a DQ parody episode
>>568572295KINO
>>568651009>>568651087Considering Shiren 6 did very well for a shiren game, I could see them trying a new MD title. But I think Pokemon Mystery Dungeon would probably be the first priority for Chunsoft Shiren 6 basically has an entire post-game dungeon that's a massive PMD reference, where Shiren turns into a fox and gets 4 moves just like PMD.
Even if XII plays it safe, which would be fair enough, it'd be cool if DQM4 was the game to break the ice and got a new composer involved. Use all the DQM and DQV songs you'd expect, but maybe have a little more fun with it this time.
>>568572295Lmao
>>568652197Shiren 6 did fine but the PMD remake didn't do too hot though.
Beyond Dream Girl
>>568654764PMD remake had a great art style it just had some of the worst marketing for a pokemon game i can remember in recent years
>>568654764>>568654965I had no idea there was a PMD remake, or if I ever knew I forgot.
>>568654792I can see them...
>>568655261Don't tell her she's not invisible.
>>568654764It sold over 1 million, which isn't bad for a Pokemon spinoff.
is Treasures fun or is it too baby game
>>568654965Pokemon fans don't really like the MD gameplay.>>568655612It isn't but it seems they were expecting more, it's one of those games "people on the internet likes" but the public at large doesn't care in addition to never being a critics darling.
>>568656825I really like MD games personally but the Pokemon Company are crazy for not taking the Pokemon isekai concept and making a generic action game out of it, they'd move copies for sure.
>>568656825>It isn't but it seems they were expecting more, it's one of those games "people on the internet likes" but the public at large doesn't careExplorers sold a combined 10 million, and the remake actually sold closer to 2 million, which was better than both Gates and Super's sales. Selling 2 million while being barely promoted is very good. >in addition to never being a critics darling.Lol MD has ALWAYS gotten dogshit reviews in the west because reviewers are retarded and don't know what a real roguelike is. They get much better reviews in japan.A new DQ MD is possible but it's a lot less likely than them just doing a new PMD since it's a much safer bet.
We'll get Erinn's Mystery Dungeon to go along with the DQIX remake in 2050.
>>568657116it would be kinda funny if after Nintendo/TPC got Koei to make Pokopia that SE went back to Chunsoft to make a new Torneko
>>568655081it was cute
>>568566392she would be into it
>>568657343Would be cool, or make a spin-off of DQ3/DQ9 since they don't have any.
Should I play Terry's Wonderland (never played more than an hour) or Treasures (just bought) first
>>568661775play the game you spent money on
Twelve-kun is growing on me.
Annnnd just like that, we're dead again
Just started this obscure game called dq 11
Please God let this be the first Dragon Quest game to have a non r*ddit localization.
>>568671381Art thou feeling it now Twelve-san?
>>568671453
>>568668006Same, I just wish his hair was different, other than that I think I'll get used to him. He looks very different from your average DQ hero.
>>568642727ugliest a hero has ever beenall they have to do is just make another DQ3/DQ8 herobut no, we get that and ugly ass female+green lizard man toomost disappointing reveal ever
>>568642532>protagonist is 100% IndianSo the spinach hair boy and the curry seer actually did it... arey
What DQ game should I play first? I played the XI demo and emulated VIII, up until I accidentally updated PCSX2 and corrupted my save. Seeing as there's a lot more on Steam now like the III HD remaster I was wondering if I should try that out or pick up the latest when I have a chance.
>>568682487play V
>>568682487The one equivalent to the last number of this post.It's 6 btw, check it.
>>568684883VI bros...
>>568682487Start with DQ1 GBC, it's an iconic JRPG and you can beat in a few hours. The game just trusts that you'll write down the NPCs' tips because what they say in one place might be useful in another corner of the map, so have a pen and paper but don't worry, you don't need to write too much, the game isn't that big in the first place.The GBC version has double exp and gold, so there's way less grind while still being faithful to the OG.Then play DQ3 SNES or HD, it connects to DQ1 in a fun way, but this one is a party builder where you can choose classes, etc, it's very iconic as well and gets referenced not just all over the franchise, but in other jp pop culture as well.
EnoughWhat is the best version to play of every DQ game
>>568685860>Dragon Quest IIf you want the "narrative", HD-2DIf you want the gameplay, SFC>Dragon Quest IIHD-2D>Dragon Quest IIIHD-2D>Dragon Quest IVDS>Dragon Quest VPS2>Dragon Quest VIDS>Dragon Quest VIIPSX>Dragon Quest VIIIPS2>Dragon Quest IXDS>Dragon Quest XPC>Dragon Quest XIPC
>>568687963>Dragon Quest V>PS2>chibi shovelware tier 3D slop over iconic pixel art kino AND Deborakekand the 3DS remake of 8 is better than the OG
XII hero is the pinnacle of Toriyama's evolution as an artist, the greatest art is never appreciated in its own time.
Debora fans really are like vegans.
>>568691729I like DS DQ5 more than PS2 but DQ8 on 3DS is crap. Two overpowered tacked on party members that mysteriously disappear during portions of the story so they don’t have to redo cutscenes. Field encounters and heals on level up make dungeons and exploration less engaging. Worse visuals and music. And a (thankfully optional) dumb fanservice alternate ending that undercuts the story.
>>568655974Both. It's baby and combat is dull but collecting treasure is enjoyable if you're into that.
>>568606107If XII really does have a dream world I hope it includes the few dream world monsters from VI like Mottle Slimes and Dreamaeras and some new variants in the same vein but also finally lets some of the weirder DQM exclusives into the main series by putting them in dreamland.
>>568694968They still make you play the only good ending for 8 first before the optional ones just like the original. Even the horse marriage ending is lame compared to the default end.Most of the loss is in the visuals, even worse pop-in than PS2 and no more lighting in the environment at all. Morrie's OP mainly because tension is still just as OP, Red's Blade Cascade is weaker than Jessica using the massively buffed Sudden Death from her own sword tree, unless the target is immune to Crack.Ideally someday they'll just put out another port that at least looks like original version visually with the postgame gauntlet included.
>>568685860>ISuper Fami>IISuper Fami>IIIHD2D>IVNES>VPS2>VISuper Fami>VIIPS1>VIIIPS2>IXThere is literally only one option >XDoesn’t matter lel>XI3DS
>>568697157Holy contrarian
>>568697281You asked for opinions dood, these are the versions for each I enjoyed the most
Ps2 version is indeed better than 3DS. Cutscene of cow in dress is not enough to compensate.
I just can’t click with Dragon Quests that don’t have random encounters
Moo.
>>56869858111 compensates with the production values, but 8 3DS doesn't have that going for it.Also I think symbol encounters are objectively good for the Monsters series.
>>568698749My biggest issue with modern monsters is the size limit, it’s just a fun killer
>>568698917I like using the big monsters for one off fights but its annoying actually doing shit around the map or trying to scout things using them
>>568698917unless you're referring to 3 a "modern" monsters games have custom sizes for monsters after you beat the final boss
> Leave Jade in Switch 2™ to me
