Previously on /coopg/: >>568433672>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus is coming to Warhammer 40,000: Darktide!https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Space Marine 2:Patch Noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0Dude Wallhttps://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>568565136im a newfag. explain to me when is it that a new thread must replace the old thread? is it at specific number of replies?
>>568564893Can you really blame a girl for dreaming?>>568565238autosage at 750 posts
>>568565238archiving purpose
>First of all, I really must correct the record about Lady Kerillian the All-Wise and Ever-Beautiful, may I one day be worthy of cleaning her boots with my tongue. What the fuck Kerilian.
>>568565238Page 7-10
look, all am saying is give me a few rocks and a branx pickaxe and I would have killed Horus
oh neat, scum have a separate customization menu in addition to the usual talent tree. How cool would it be if every class got this? Zealot could decide the nature of their prayers, arby could choose physical augmentic upgrades for their dog, etc.You know the admech guy will have this with his ervo skull, for sure. It can be a turret, or a healing station, or a shield, etc from this menu I'm sure.I wasn't really liking scum very much to be honest so far so hopefully there's cool stuff here.
>>568566770What the shit.
>>568566770you play on a giganticTV ?
>>568566770The stimm lab is purely novelty and barely changes the way you play it. It looks cooler than it feels. In practice, you just take the top right and pop it when you need big damage. You sometimes go bottom left too if you want high viscosity, and very rarely bottom right if you're doing an actual support build, but that's about it. Top left is useless, and variety is extremely limited in practice. Minimum viscosity builds are non-viable because all they do is spam useless crates that do nothing, it's only for penance farming and anyone that sticks with it for the crate explosion is a fucking retard.>but muh dependency stacksCongrats, you're stacking cooldown reduction for an ability that doesn't use it. Good job.
I'm very late but I finally thought of what I'd want Fatshark to make a different tide game for. Dinosaurs. Dinotide. Think about it.
>>568566581But what about Horace?
>>568567936>bitching for ammo>on zealot>when you have a crate>and everyone else is doing fine enough on ammoEvery fucking time, man lmao
>>568560447>In 40 I only use shock mines when enemies get REALLY retardedly dense, or an objective needs doing, or someone went down/dead in a truly atrocious positionuh yeah no shit?? what the fuck else did you think they were for
>>568568229Yes, but if any of those happen once every 90 seconds (or realistically, more than like 4 times in a run), you have other problems that need addressing, that infinite mines don't actually solve.
>>568566770nigger is a hammerhead shark lmaooooooooo
>>568568308what else did you think shock mines were for
>>568568531(You)
this nigga thinks they're low value because he was using them on bosses
>>568567936based as fuark ogryn players
>>568565279How is it she keeps getting more perfect….. post more
>>568569570By being the best.Lalatina is a masochist, Chris deserves hard fucks, Aqua deserves a frontal lobotomy, so Megumin with no flaws is the best.
>>568567936It's been a while since I last saw this. Still gets me.
>>568566974>Minimum viscosity builds are non-viable because all they do is spam useless crates that do nothingThey make your entire team immune to corruption and delete hordes with the toxin explosionBeing immune to taking ANY purple damage at all means your team can ignore most mechanics and just stand on ground goop with zero consequences
>>568571597And you are spending an entire ability slot for that, on the class with the biggest steroid ability across the board. You could instead just bring a zealot and not grief the team.>but I'm blind and retarded and keep standing in puddles anywaySkill issue.
>>568567469Man i miss exoprimal... I wish they hadn't locked so much of the maps and content behind story progress and matchmaking, made so many people think it had no content
>>568571753>You could instead just bring a zealot and not grief the team.Zealot does not give you 100% uptime corruption immunity you dumb niggerThis shit is for ignoring the timer in expeditions ENTIRELY and certain ultra cancerous havoc missions
>>568571883>Zealot does not give you 100% uptime corruption immunityIrrelevant, if you don't suck major cock you don't need immunity.>ignoring the timer in expeditions ENTIRELYCompletely irrelevant because you can blitz through every level near effortlessly with just 2 half decent players, and it's just a penance farming mode, nobody plays it for fun.>certain ultra cancerous havoc missionsYou're still better off bringing a proper rampage melee scum alongside a chorus zealot. Crate spam is only good if you're dogshit at positioning and fail the DPS check. Only retards sit in puddles. Purity aura is enough.
Why does my scriers gaze always end and give me hack like 3/4 of the cooldown for freeIt even happens if I only kill chaff level guys and not anyone stronger which I thought was required
>>568571753You are allowed to bring more than one scum>bring a zealot That's griefing
>>568572398>zealot>griefingThanks for admitting you're a trenchie, this conversation is over.
>>568572232because psyker is a welfare class and their CDR leaches off your allies in coherency killing specials and elites even though pysker is the best elite killer in the game and can be competitive with vet for special killing
>>568572589Ohhhhhh thanks anon
>>568571753I will never ever talk down to people for picking the ability that is at least kind of unique over>brooooo 200% melee damage. Enjoy>brooo 200% ranged damage. Enjoystat buff template trash
>>568572949Crate is fine.Minimum viscosity crate spam is the retarded part.
>>568572117>irrelevant>properPure autismBack to the havoc mines with you
>>568573180I'm sure corruption immunity is plenty relevant in your hands, which constantly run out of time in expeditions, and constantly get bogged down in AIDS puddles.
>>568573529>Anon points out the use for a build>NOOO That isn't the 100% optimal pure autismo way of playing the game! You should all have 1k+ hours in the game and play perfect 100% of the time>You are not allowed to deviate from HAVOC40 meta outside of HAVOC40What an utterly reductionist faggot you turned out to beIs this what maining Zealot does to a motherfucker?
I hold the bacon of purity!!!!!1!!!
>>568573867>game puts down DON'T STAND IN THE CIRCLE RETARD mechanic>some absurdly retarded niggers think the ability to ignore those is somehow good>instead of just not standing in the circleDon't even start insinuating that expeditions are somehow relevant, or that timing out is something that anyone but complete turboshitters do, you disingenuous faggot.
>>568573867Not him but I don't think the definition of 'viable' does not mean 'has -a- use'
>>568574139But the entire floor is covered with the circles...
>>568574139>insinuating that expeditions are somehow relevantVideo games are entirely irrelevant on a fundamental levelThat exist to waste what little precious time you have on this earthYou don't get to tell people to pick a different class outside of your little premades havocsissyHave you ever considered that maybe some people just find the Zealot insufferable and would rather play hive scum?>If you don't live up to my completely arbitrary standards you're griefingWhat a sad existence you must lead
>>568574408>kill enemies fast enough>the circles just form a critical mass in front of you>get pushed>kill enemies near the circles>sprint through the circles>take negligible corruption that zealot then clears by existingAt worst, it's like -20% max health or so, because that's how much corruption you should expect to be taking on the back line classes. The front liners should already be built to deal with it, and have better positioning anyway.>>568574642>implying premadesI'm sure you're stuck so far down in the trenches that you cannot even conceive of the possibility that random h40 groups could possibly win, considering how incredibly retarded your opinions are. Let me guess, h28 at the highest?>Have you ever consideredWell no shit, most zealots are complete garbage players, and all the pre-nerf zealot mains already went through all the stages of grief and landed at acceptance that zealot is no longer the epic solo protagonist melee DPS meme class and switched to melee scum.Notably: melee scum. Not crate meme grief scum. MELEE scum.
If you use cheat mods, you didn't actually beat H40.
I want my friend to mating press me into submission until I can no longer walk.Coop games for this feel?
>>568575530Atlyss
>>568574923nta but there are still melee dps zealots who didnt switch to hive scum that still do huge work. Hive scum's hella overtuned but a good zealot is still a good zealot.
>>568574923>I'm sure you're stuck so far down in the trenches that you cannot even conceive of the possibility that random h40 groups could possibly winNah I'm done climbing, I got my havoc forged title so everyone can laugh at me when I still eat shit to getting blindsighted by an overheadAnd I did it entirely with pubsI'm implying premades, because anyone who's had to do that climb and then try to tard-wrangle pubs into changing build or class, appreciates the suffering involved in trying to make a fucking russian change from stealth vet to shout
>>568576593Let Boris do his thing, man. He'll 100% carry, just you wait
>>568576296>but a good zealot is still a good zealotBarely any good zealots remain unfortunately, and the amount of autistic dedication required to make stealth zealot perform adequately is not really worth it compared to the shit that scum can do.As far as occupying a team slot goes, both chorus/support zealot and melee DPS scum tend to have much more weight than a DPS zealot does nowadays. One-shotting havoc bosses isn't nearly as relevant as reliably blowing through 3-5 of them back to back and providing stability when that happens. A stealth zealot can barely keep up with boss spam, it gets pretty clumsy.Also chorus can run a weird off-meta hybrid build with chorus and martyrdom, doing like 80% to a boss health bar with thammer. Played with a couple of those, works well, but they really struggled doing much outside of support and boss killing, to where the horde clear of relic blade would've likely been preferable. One guy complained the entire time about how much thammer sucks, even.>>568576593>I got my havoc forged title so everyone can laugh at mefor getting carried and not having True Survivor*>because anyone who's had to do that climb and then try to tard-wrangle pubs into changing build or class, Do you not even know how h40 games are played in practice?>host lobby>get application>inspect the build>think it fits into the team comp>accept>don't like the build>decline>fill group>hit playZero communication required. Half the lobbies don't even bother saying hello. You only rarely get someone asking to switch classes, or missing modifiers and requesting purity zealot for AIDS or something. No discussion is necessary if the host is actually doing his job of weeding out the inevitable retards.You also get 40s fucking around with heinous meme setups, which can be fun if everyone is just fucking around with low expectations, and hilarious when it does end up working, but that's besides the point. Sure I'll apply as zealot to a 3 zealot lobby.
>>568575150>There are people in this thread right now who use the mod that makes all elite glow so they're easy to pick out in the clutter/darkness>They actually thing their havoc-forged title means anythingIf you used any mods or had a premade, this is your threadly reminder that you didn't earn your havoc-forged
>>568577054>havoc-forgedCarried shitter title, True Survivor is the only one that counts, and even that is only a mark of being able to do the bare minimum. Havoc-Frorged just screams "I'm not good enough to do the bare minimum".
>>568577007im not even talking about just stealth zealot, fury zealot's still plenty good and capable of putting in huge work in the right hands. Pretty few and far between yeah but ive got a few in my circle of friends that prefer zealot over scum.
>>568565238Good lord, imagine being THIS new.
>>568577007>True Survivor autistWe've go a live oneNow post how many thousands of hours you've wasted on this swedish skinnerbox so we can all laugh at youOh and btw if you used any mods then your true survivor doesn't count
>>568577238>fury zealot's still plenty good and capable of putting in huge work in the right handsIt's pretty dire how underwhelming it is unfortunately. You really do have to try 10x as hard for barely 80% of the performance of an actually good build, it's fucking sad.Compare, for example, to an ogryn just firing his rumbler lmfao. Bigger numbers for holding down left mouse button.
>>568577274Every so often I see anons whine that "jannies keep deleting threads" after they hit post limit and eventually fall off page 10 At least this guy asks
>>568577351I see I struck a nerve with that call-out.Just because you've indirectly admitted that getting it would take you thousands of hours to achieve doesn't mean this holds true for everyone, projectard. You are just bad at the video game. Some of us got it in only a handful of tries, in a random pub lobby, and continue to get True Survivor eligible games to this day, in random pub lobbies.No need to have a melty over it.
>>568577380yeah i think it's really unfortunate that for something so kino it's so overshadowed. Not that i think it needs to be buffed, i just think that everything more cringe than fury zealot should be toned down till its worse than it. The most based and fun way to play should be the most optimal. That said you can still make it work and it's really fun when you do make it work, much more so than hive scum or rumbler which is extremely sleeper.
>>568577659>i just think that everything more cringe than fury zealot should be toned down till its worse than itCompletely agree, across all classes. Players have been power crept like fuck, while FotF remained the baseline of how much power a player should really have.But I also wish zealot got some slight damage buffs overall. I hate how heavily the class relies on being permanently in max martyrdom to even achieve competitive damage. It's stupid. Martyrdom was a fucking game design mistake, because now these dumb Sw*des obsess over it whenever they look at zealot's damage.
>>568577560>Didn't post time to disprove meSo how many mods did you use to give you "visual clarity"?
>>568577970>I cannot fathom someone reaching havoc 40, let alone True Survivor, especially not without cheatsOne day you will stop projecting and git gud. With a bit of introspection, perhaps even today.
everyone is bad except me yes-yes
>>568578050And maybe one day you'll stop being an evasive faggot, maybe perhaps even today.Did Mr E tell you that it was ok to use those mods and that it wasn't cheating when you made every elite glow in the dark so you can pop their heads the instant they enter your line of sight?Until we see your mod list and time played, your True survivor means nothing
>>568578234Notice how much this tranny obsesses over the need to devalue someone else's True Survivor instead of nutting up and just getting it himself (because he knows he can't). No amount of woman behavior will make you a real woman.
>>568577659>>568577898just revert cdr on crit, zealot was basically carried by that when they revamped it the 1st or 2nd time
>>568578365>Deflecting this hard rather than posting a simple snippet from their steam pagePathetic but good of you to concede "True Survivor"
>>568578405The overall CDR changes were good and healthy, zealot just needs some slight, further tweaking. Pre-rework CDR tech was retarded and made chorus the most overpowered thing imaginable and stealth borderline invulnerable, with certain builds.I think we just need slightly lower numbers on Martyrdom, and buff zealot's damage nodes slightly, or convert some to strength. Just to stop overcentralizing the class' entire damage potential to a singular keystone.
>>568578405nah, the class tree rework was a mixed bag but the best thing it did was kneecap the CDR slop that was ruling this game's meta. Fury zealot doesn't need anymore buffs, it's good and it should be the baseline. Nothing should be more offensively powerful than Fury Relic Blade (which is the most OP thing that doesn't make the game unfun).
delete all classes from the game except skitariirelaunch darktide on june 23rd and pretend the original launch never happened
>>568578576It is my privilege to YWNBAW and YWNBATS you in the same sentence and have it actually make sense. Genuinely delighted.
>>568577405Are you talking about when they have all the posts in them deleted after they archive rather than the page just 404’ing after a few days? Because no one seems to actually have an explanation for that yet.
>>568577054>People bring up how cheat mods are literal cheats on the forums>B-but it's for the hearing impairedBros just admit that you cheat. You don't gotta hide behind the skirt of the deaf.
rentfree
>>568578820It must be a really embaressing high number for you to be deflecting this desperatelyPut your money where your mouth is faggot
>>568579195>Put your money where your mouth is faggotWhat the fuck does that mean?NTA, I just read this and I'm very confused.
>>568578721i dont like relic blade, the combo is really annoying with with the last two heavy hits repeating rather than cycling backoriginal eviscerator is better for this because it cycles its combos very easily with h1->l1, even then you can just spam lights in a panic because theyre very fast
>>568579195>post proof of a thing you physically cannot getNigger I got TS somewhere around 50% Poxbreaker, which must've been ~600 hours. It was shortly after havoc came out. I've never dropped out of 40, and as a result completed numerous technical True Survivor games for randos. Posting my 1000+ hours now is completely meaningless.>>568579338He's trying to play some retarded gotcha.
>>568579338it means give $20 to the guy who's dick your sucking, which i find odd because usually it's the other way around
>>568566770>that aspect ratio
>>568579338Definition: Support your stated opinion by acting on it, investing on it, or betting on it.
>>568579408>He didn't back up his wordsI can make outlandish claims also, but without proof you're just a little shit on a taiwanese basket weaving forum trying to look big
>>568579371Im not a big fan of the looping heavies, but it doesn't bother me. While i find the relic blade fun sometimes, I don't like to use it often just cause I don't like the heat mechanic. I'd rather have one consistent slightly lower power level than an inconsistent power level. Sucks too cause otherwise I really like the mk2 moveset. But it's fine im more of a Foot Knight 2 enjoyer with Arbites.
>>568579649>can't provide proof for something that literally happened a year and a half agoDamn dude you fucking got me!
Skitarii?More like Shitarii!
>>568579970You're washed up, rat. It's time to retire.
>>568566974>>568571597Even without cartel stimms the stimm crate will still apply whatever you have equipped to the entire team. Which has one niche use case where it's a good idea, and that is pox gas missions. This is because med stimms are everywhere in those missions, and the stimm crate lets you heal the entire team with one.
It's always funny to see that without skipping a beat there will be some guy here who will start acting like an internet tough guy if you ever dare to say anything negative about True Survivor.
>>568580298Yeah the stimm sharing gimmick is actually fucking sick and probably really good in a 4-man premade with voice chat, but it's shit in pubs where even communicating that is difficult, and some players don't even know how to (or that it's possible to) toss stimms over.
>>568580394True Survivors can identify trench stuckies from the way they type, and it is in their nature to mock their shittery.
>>568580394yeah like to do people actually give a shit about true survivor? i had the tittle unequipped for longer than I had it equipped at this point. poxbreaker sounds cooler anyways (ofc it also doesn't mean anything)
>>568577007>inspect the buildYou can't do that without mods you filthy cheater
I AM ALWAYS 2X BETTER THAN YOU!!! THERE!!!
>>568580298When you say something wrong and retarded then you shouldn't be surprised when someone corrects you
>>568580425If you manage to get into a Karnak twins mission where your teammates understand that, you can have an equivalent of 16 med stimms for the final fight that way.
>>568580687>do people actually give a shit about true survivorConsidering how mad the stuckies get whenever they see one? Clearly.
>>568580785fuck you am triple better
>>568580860Karnak twins hasnt been remotely challenging ever since they nerfed the hardmode
>>568580861like dawg i think you had good takes about zealot but putting weight in having true survivor and also taking the the bait is pretty lol
>>568580949You didnt say "always" so my always 2x better comes back into effect and now I'm 6x better... foolish
>>568580949I play havoc 40 without mods
>>568581093You've got it backwards. Having True Survivor just means you can do the bare minimum.Trying to make any claims about anything, and not having True Survivor needs to be shamed.
>>568579479Oh, okay. So it's not about eating money but into proving what you say.
>>568581303>Having True Survivor just meansNothing if you used mods to get it>Timmy cheated at a PVE game and now brags about it on the internetMany such cases
>>568581303fair enough, with the caveat that i think someone who plays meta a lot and doesn't have true survivor is a sign of being dogshit, but someone who only plays off meta and not having true survivor isn't (not that i even know anyone who hits that description, all the good off meta players i know have gotten it at some point even if they don't equip it)
>>568581461>he's still insinuating that literally everyone who did the thing he is incapable of achieving must be cheatingJust hang yourself already, faggot.
>>568580565>True Survivors can identify trench stuckies from the way they typeNot really. I've gotten called a trenchie before despite having H40 and TS, and that only happened because I dared to say that Havoc is badly designed since it didn't fix power creep, but instead validated it more.Issue with aurics is that they got too easy, the problem would've been solved if the devs just nerfed OP shit like VoC, psykinetics aura, OP weapons and in general lowering player power. That's all that we would've needed.But instead the devs decided to waste money, time and resources on making a gamemode that just reinforces and validates the existance of those OP things, which in turn has started to fundamentally rot the foundations of the game, and it is doing it until this very day.Hey, at least they nerfed crushers spawns finally, which they said they would do like 6 months ago in 2025 November... But they did nerf Uncanny Strike finally, after like 2 years of people telling them to do it...
>>568581592>insinuatingYou already admitted to cheating by saying that you inspect people before inviting them to your groupThat's a mod
>>568581303>Having True Survivor just meansNothingBecause 3 competent players can carry a complete turbo shitter to the finish line by babying them through out the mission
>>568581832Then how come you don't have it?
There are (were?) exploits where you can just kill yourself off a ledge then have a stealth zealot solo the H40 mission and everyone gets true survivor. I know for a fact people on discord were doing this for people en masse to help them get achievements. So regardless of what you think achieving the title legitimately involves, it helps to remember that a solid percentage of people you see in games with TS probably didn't actually legitimately achieve it. They just got a discord carry while watching. Helps explain why sometimes there's utter dogshit True Survivors who go down 4 times in aurics
>>568581141I don't want to play with you anymore
>>568581592If you use mods it's cheatingIf you didn't have Inspect From Party Finder mod, you would have never gotten True SurvivorTry doing that one time uninstall it and try playing lets see how far you can go
>>568581830Can a man rape these things?
>>568581671Issue with aurics is that they got too easy, the problem would've been solved if the devs just nerfed OP shit like VoC, psykinetics aura, OP weapons and in general lowering player power. That's all that we would've needed.But instead the devs decided to waste money, time and resources on making a gamemode that just reinforces and validates the existance of those OP things,Agree here, but I am at least glad that havoc got made, because even despite the flaws of its design with the map pool and boring and annoying modifiers and furthering power creep, i do enjoy the frequent bosses, the captains, the twins, and every room being chock full of ambients making the room breaches a big ordeal. Lack of those things are super noticeable when playing auric, and my ideal state of game balance includes a Havoc difficulty that maintains those things.
>>568581924I was carried by 3 competent players to the finish lineIt's that easy
>>568582050Also on topNo premades and you are only allowed to que up in pubs.
>>568582050>If you didn't have Inspect From Party Finder mod, you would havehad to resort to premade trooning. Randoms are genuinely insufferable. Still would've gotten it week 1. I refuse to play with randos without inspecting them. Your argument also doesn't work because there's a 90% chance the host I'm applying to also uses the inspect mod.No idea why you've so autistically latched onto this strawman and keep holding on.
>>568582218Honestly I liked H40 for a while but i went back to aurics because the pacing is better, I just calm myself and sandbag and mess around and if you have no tryhard sweatlord on your team (surprisingly many people on aurics just race for kills all mission) it's kind of the way more fun experience for me at least and stiill has some difficulty spikesit IS way too easy to just destroy all difficulty spikes before they happen if you know how though, no doubt, and it ruins half of them because someone does it
>>568582370>you are only allowed to que up in pubs.>que[sic] (faggot can't spell queue) havocYou don't even know how havoc works, shut the fuck up about it you dysgenic freak.
>>568582404cause they're baiting you for (You)s
>>568582404>Had to resort to cheating to get True survivor>Deflects and namecalls to try and distract from this basic factLittle timmy cheated in a PVE game because he couldn't cut it, and now he copes by saying other people are in the trenches or stuckiesSad
>>568582404>>568582554>n-nuh uh!>i would've gotten still!>but i refuse to play with pubsOk you are a shitter then and you didn't get TS legimately.Until you get a no death run in a public match hosted by yourself without the Inspect mod, then you will be a permashitter
>>568582840>>568582863I see the keyboards are particularly shit-smeared today
>>568582437I went thru that phase too but im back to playing just h40s. found a group and couple playstyles im happy with. I don't like the idea of going back to auric because I still want a difficulty that challenges me when I'm actually trying and off-meta havoc 40 is that for me. And yeah like you said half the time either a pysker or someone actually good at the game is in the lobby and then you barely get to play or engage with any difficulty spikes which really bores me.
>>568581245Greetings übermench. How nice of you to bless us with your presence!
>>568581830Cute…>>568582165No anon that would be offensive it must be consensual
>Need private game penance>Post generic listing on party finder>It actually works after a few minutesWow, that's neat.
>>568583272They'd rape me, given the chance! It's all their kind know.
>>568582404>Your argument also doesn't work because there's a 90% chance the host I'm applying to also uses the inspect mod.No it does workYou're genuinely stupid not figuring out how to do this challenge and if you can't figure out how to get around this simple restrictionHere's your True Survivor ladies and gentlemen a man so stupid he can not figure out basic problem solvingIf you actually do wonder how do you do this legit you just host yourself you dumb motherfuckerIt is weird you couldn't figure this out
>>568582165you can't rape the willing
>>568582953>You're a shitter if you don't have true survivor!>What do you mean I can't just use mods and cheat to get information Fatshark doesn't want you to have?>What do you mean I can't just use mods to invite 3 turbo autist to my premade with 3k+ hours in the game and the sweatiest meta builds to carry me to TS?>Y-You're a troon!>Y-You're brown!>N-No I'm not going to play with random pubs! They're insufferable!>But I will still try to belittle people on a Taiwanese basket weaving forum for not cheating like me!
>someone has True Survivor>this insults my izzat>proceed to have a massive meltdown
I have True Survivor. Still managed to die to a crusher in 1v1 in Auric. I still have nightmares about that.
>>568583717>Someone cheated to get true survivor and decided to call everyone else shitters, permastuck and in the trenches for agreeing with his dogshit opinion>Investigate>The true survivor was the real shitter all alongTrue survivor?More like True shitter!Ratman do your thing
>don't have True Survivor>get jealous>start screeching at anyone that has itMany such cases!
>the guy who is very very proud of his video game title got it by using mods that make the game substantially easierWhy am I not surprised.
>>568584079>Cheating is cool bro! Only the title matters!Unironically an anon who uses paint to put True survivor under the name is more authentic than this scared little faggot
Holy shit imagine being this angryYWNBATS
>>568584305>ur brown!>ur a tranny!>ur mad!Get new material cheater
>>568582840>>568582863>>568583565>>568583634>>568583981>>568584079>>568584119>>568584225>>568584628Holy samefagging. Crazy concept but I don't really care if other people use mods or not, outside of "play the game for me" mods. >Cheater!! post modlist!!!
>>568584693
>>568585012>More than half are (You)How do I learn and further develop upon this samefagging power?
The only one who's getting mad here is you. And the only reason you think true survivor is important is because you had trouble getting it.
>>568585219>Replying when you're replied to>SamefaggingBack peddle faster little timmy, unfortunately no one has made a mod that makes you not look like a little bitch on the internet yetBut I'm sure they'll come through for you some day
>play event mission>guy keeps telling me how impressed he is with my damage throughout the runremoving baseline scoreboards was a mistake
>>568582404So you're a scared child who is autistic about a silly video game.Got it.
>Mocks other people playing legitimately while cheating out his assYep that's going in my cringe compilation
>>568586928The fun part is that he boasts of inspecting others. Meaning that he wants to be carried since he's too shit to play it himself.
I've only started checking this general three days ago. Is it always filled with angry autists being full retard like that or am I just unlucky?
>>568587837Both. You're unlucky to be here.
>>568587837Pretty unlucky I'd say. It's not USUALLY this intensely focused on the retarded topics.
>>568587837Trust me when I say it could be much worse
>Far far west already forgottenWell, it was a cute little splash in the pan.
>>568588367I dare not try to imagine it.
>>568586007>removing baseline scoreboards was a mistakeThey just made it more subtle, the top 2 will usually be the only characters that banter during a mission (Outside trash talking people when they go down)You actually get a pretty good feel for how well people are doing, by how the characters interact
I had to drop the difficulty down to the easiest because the Karnak Twins were literally tearing my butthole across the room and broadcasting it for all of Humanity to see seriously what the fuck is this?
>DPS metaslaves use mods to give themselves a scoreboardWhen did Darktide turn into a MMO? How long before you faggots start talking about parses and DPS checks
>>568586928Lmao
>>568589712>seriously what the fuck is this?Blocking and dodging around them to make them waste time turning is your friend, focus on that until you can stay alive, just blocking Rinda and pulling her far away does more to help your team than you might expect.Every time you dodge behind one of them, they spend like a full second menacingly turning around to face you before they continue attacking
>>568569709Megumin is of course the best, but Chris is a close second. After that, yunyun is rapable with a paper bag over her head and the rest of the cast is untouchable.
>Burster approaches >All clear>Open fire on it>Teammate from out of nowhere runs at it>Blows up in his face>Thanks!>Thanks!>Thanks!He hates me now :(
>>568589093Bruh the kinda shit you hear from the bottom of there scoreboard like wtf is this cope?
>>568590402>Anons teammate after trying to push the burster away like a hero, only to get betrayed by the sleeper nurgle agent in the party
>>568590402>play with a buddy>we're both really fast and aggressive>constantly blow up bursters in each other's faces on accident because we're retarded or something>just started using health curios instead of gitting gud>it works
whats the best weapon for blowing bursters up on people?>Trauma stafftoo obvious and visible, warns the person im gonna do itI want one shots bursters to the body in H40 and also doesn't have any significant windup or pullout time
>>568591053For ogryn it's the grenade launcher
>>568591053I prefer leaving the corcle under the burst while it approaches someone. Keep them guessing for a bit.
>>568591053Combat shotgun and arbitrator shotguns should do it. Might need the slug special on the combat shotgun. Not sure how havoc scaling affects bursters (never bothered to check) but you might need ... infested? if pellet count matters too much.Zealot knives also do the trick, and they're virtually silent.The main issue is that you can still see who blew up the burster in the kill feed, so there's no stealth griefing.
>>568591053Friendly rock one-shots themBonus sometimes the Ogryn laughs at the burster exploding in their face
>>568591213rumbler? too much explosion delay, also i dont want to play ogryn>>568591225that's a fun bit too, but i want to see if there's something better>>568591256slug shotgun i could see, but a little too much windup. Ideally, I'd be able to weapon swap, aim, shoot once, burster explodes on teammate. I do think the minimum pellet count would be a problem.>The main issue is that you can still see who blew up the burster in the kill feed, so there's no stealth griefing.I don't care about stealth griefing, I just want to piss people off and make my team terrified of bursters>>568591392Rock has travel time and that could lose out on the burster, also i dont want to play ogryn
>>568590967>just started using health curios instead of gitting gudThat remind me of when I played psyker in havoc with full toughness mods and still getting one-shot by burstersJust one health curio makes a world of difference
>>568591732>Ideally, I'd be able to weapon swap, aim, shoot once, burster explodes on teammate.All shotguns have very fast swap time and can fire almost immediately upon pressing the swap button. Make it a habit to always load a special slug before you put your shotgun away, and always swap to it during a lull in the action just so you can make sure a slug is loaded. This should be standard practice because slugs are your special snipers, and that should be the main reason you pull the thing out.It's just a bit of a learning curve.Revolver should do the same but I find it much clunkier than the slug shotgun.
I don't even feel like finishing this event, it gives you like 40% as and 200% damage so it makes auric even more boring
>>568591732>could lose out on the bursterBy like a split second unless you're trying to trick shot at 50+ meters, I've intentionally blown up enough bursters in peoples faces many times. Also unintentionally because my aim sucks.Either way that'll teach them for picking the Cadian voice.
>>568591053Kickback
>>568591976>Revolverfigured it out, zarona weapon specialist, the guaranteed crit from killing enemies in melee one shots the burster to the body, and surgical can guarantee a crit if i happen to not have that available. dont even need infested or specialists to get the one shot (i tried that to get no crit body one shots but it didn't work). Best part is I run shout with gold toughness and res and purposefully hold shout until immediately after i blow the burster up on them. Also being the teams shout vet means its less likely that someone has gold toughness when i go to try and shoot the burster.
>>568593263That's really funny also go fuck yourself
>>568593263>mfw I recognize this exact method as a healer mainDiabolicalFiendish evenI love it
>>568583981True Survivor?More like True Shitter!
>>568589849when they released havoc
>>568594126Yep, this goes to my collection. Keep doing the God's work.
>>568594126Thank you it's perfect
>>568579970I'd ask you to go back to posting cropped ketzio art but I realized he hasn't posted in a while so that sucks
>>568594429>Fatshark removes the leaderboard from regular play because it makes people toxic>Add a decaying leaderboard you can derank from as containment for the most sweaty and toxic autistsThose wily swedes
>>568593593Smug elf sex>>568587837You’ve gotten really unlucky I don’t think this has place has gone longer for an hour without arguing about something in the past few days
>>568595360>Smug elf sexPreferable to slutty elf sexYou think modern women have a body count? Imagine if those sluts could live forever and never hit the wallYou think white women are bad with dogs? Now imagine if they could fuck and crossbreed with every monster in the setting.Truly horrifying
Hive scum with combat shotgun, is it dogshit or am I having a skill issue? Feels like dogshit but I'd like to use it...
>>568596061Combat shotgun is only good for sniping specials, it's not really a great gun on its own. Its main use is very similar to bolt pistol, except it's much worse at damaging bosses.No real point using it on scum unfortunately. You have much better options.
>>568596228Yeah I know it's not meta, I was just hoping to goof around while I level him and was wondering if I was missing something. Secondary question, melee scum with combat axe, how about that?
>>568596360Combat axe is extremely good with rampage, the only reason not to use it is because it's so fucking boring.
>>568596590>Combat axe is extremely good with rampageNTA butI still haven't bothered to do the rampage penanceWhat's a good build for the combat axe?
>>568590370Yunyun is fine shut up
>>568596806Rashad, most likely bromentum, headtaker. I forget which perks scum wants, probably carapace flak. You have so much rending that you should rape crushers with it.Just build for crit and attack speed with 3 stam curios really.
>>568596061The Zarona is okay on a ranged scum not great. Mild benefits of a shotgun and the high crit combines well the man-stopper special for trash clearing. Scum doesn't have much for extending the effective killing range of the standard shot, but it should still be able to aim headshot gunners to close-mid range
Picked up hive scum, are shivs a decent weapon to continue to use while leveling or are they too dependent on talents? Can always break out a tac axe or ol'reliable combat axe if so until I got some levels and talents under my belt.
>>568589712Hi, welcome to an actually dangerous enemy in darktide. Time to learn their moveset so you can mog them.
>>568597242They are the best weapon on the class, but they do benefit a lot from Hypercritical, Swift Endurance and Coated Weaponry.
How the fuck do the scum pro-gamers do it?>no cleave>no stagger>basic bitch shooters obliterate you in one volley>different dodge profile fucks with your muscle memoryNot to mention that the carpal tunnel demon is standing behind you breathing loudly in your ear.
>>568598254>>no cleaveBattering Strikes in every build. >>no staggerDodge more. Push a bit more. >>basic bitch shooters obliterate you in one volleyDodge MORE. You're not dodging enough. (also cover)>>different dodge profile fucks with your muscle memoryYeah that legit fucks with you. But just get used to it. >Not to mention that the carpal tunnel demon is standing behind you breathing loudly in your ear.I'm fine.
26 DAYS UNTIL SKITARII
For all the new friends on steamPlease go into your keybindsAnd rebind jumpIt'll save you accidentally eating shit because you jumped when you intended to dodge after you run out of stamina for blocking / pushing
>>568599298https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/249if you want to keep jump and dodge on space this mod is gold
>>568599580>modJust remember to turn it off when you finally graduate to havoc, for the full cock & ball torture experienceWhile queuing exclusively with russians who don't speak english and / or bazilians who don't speak english running unupgraded off meta builds with their fake Havoc-Forged they got carried to by three Trueshitters using mods to trivialize the gameIt's the intended Fatshark experience after all
>>568598254All of their cosmetics look like ass too
>>568599580>Using that when you can just rebind jump to CAlways with the overcomplications, anon.
>>568589712Just block.
>>568600462There's nothing overcomplicated about installing a mod with like 3 lines. I prefer saving a keybind.
>>568600462You guys who can just be okay with jump not being on spacebar are a different breed, I could never. I've been jumping with spacebar since quake and hexen, I shan't be untangling those neural pathways any time soon.
>>568600462>CI personally prefer Alt or 1
>>568600056>strawmaning this hard because still malding about being called out
>>568579371>the combo is really annoying with with the last two heavy hits repeating rather than cycling backI actually like that with the Mk X. Letting the heavy sweeps loop infinitely lets you just keep sending them into a mixed horde where there's no Ogryns mixed in, letting you devote your attention elsewhere (not that any weapon combo is deeply intensive or distracting, but it's something). But I tend to play with Martyr+FOTF, so I'm frequently going with 2 big attack speed buffs, so the slower speed doesn't cause issue. I can totally see the issue if the heavies come out too slow without Martyr buffs, actually.>>568578721>Nothing should be more offensively powerful than Fury Relic BladeYou think it's better than Martyr Relic Blade? I find Martyr more powerful, but I haven't set out to perform some definitive test.
>>568600543>saving a keybindAre you on 40% keyboard or something?
>>568600778Marty is not incompatible with fury relic blade anon, I just didn't specify keystone.
>>568600056>he's still mad for being called a cheat using cheaterKek
>>568600056It's truly pathetic to see the kind of bitterness that being a shitter brings
>>568601003Oh, I thought you specifically meant crit build given the transition from CDR slop (which was obviously the crit build before). I misunderstood. My bad.
>>568600739Dodging is just way more common in tide games and jumping is usually meaningfully limited to vaulting railings to get out of a tricky spot, or jump puzzles. No other game would I be doing something like this.
playing versus mode just makes me feel awful for the survivors. Yesterday I managed to pounce on an Ellis player as the hunter and the others were too busy to help him, he went from full health to dead over the course of like 20 seconds without being able to do anything. I even tried to stop the animation to let him fight back and it didn't let me. I apologized on chat and he quit the game.How do you even enjoy versus with how Valve wrote every character as likeable
>>568600956What kind of question is that? If I can have space and dodge on the same keybind and not have it bother me, why wouldn't I? Fair enough if you prefer putting jump on C but what is your actual problem?
>>568600462>>568600750You guys are putting jump on anything besides space? What the fuck is wrong with you?>Jump on space>Dodge on the nearest thumb mouse buttonThis is the best way, objectively. Source: the depths of my asshole and personal experience™.
>>568601425Spotted an aimlet.
>>568601425Refer to >>568601193Jumping just isn't as important in this game like dodging is. Plus I like hearing the click of the spacebar when I dodge.
>activate PBB and fire indiscriminately into a mixed horde>entire squad starts going "YOU GO BIG MAN!", "OGRYN'S RACKING UP THE KILLS!". "THE SLAB IS BLESSED WITH HOLY FERVOUR!"feels good to be the king
>>568601425jump on alt, dodge on space, crouch/slide on near thumb button, weapon special on far thumb button
>>568601281>play PVP>feel awful for the survivorsYou're too pure for this genre fren
>>568601667Explain the connection>>568601696So what if it's not as important? The thumb button on the mouse is just as immediately accessible as space since your thumb is resting there and is competing for, at most, one other action.>>568601732You're a freak
>>568601425What if I told you that I put run on space and dodge on shift?
>>568601924The 2 thumb buttons are for 1)weapon special2)BlitzAin't got no more for dodges.
>>568601924>you're a freaki have small hands and don't want to hit ctrl. Also sprint is on shift
>>568601985I'd kindly tell the spider poster to fuck right off
>>568602097Rude!
>>568602097Spiders don't post here schizo, they wouldn't even be that bad if we did.
>>568602080>blitz>usually grenades>not on GI understand the thought process. But no.To be honest, I don't think you need the blitz to be so immediately ready.
>install mod to keep jump on spacebar because of muscle memory and remove accidental dodges>bind slide to C>dodge slide with just my thumbPerfection
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>>568602395NTA but I had to take my blitz off G because I kept fat-fingering F for my ability. I moved it to Q
>>568602395I bound blitz to Q because I untrained myself from using the "previous weapon" keybind from playing competitive FPS so it became useless. I just piano across 1234 instead, so I free up room to use Q
>>568602354>if we did>>568602558Understandable. I've avoided accidents there 'cause I insist on Interact being on F, so I put my ability on E.
>>568602395TA and I agree with >>568602558 hated fat fingering F. But now there's even more questions, like why he removed his quickswap key and made it the blitz? That's weird to me.
>>568602830Well, I tried blitz on M5 for a while but it felt a little too awkward to use with how I grip my mouse, so M4 is weapon special and M5 doesn't do anything. For quickswap, I changed my 1 key to do it and left 2 as ranged. I also put marking targets on C and I have no idea where that even was originally.
>>568603064Target marking is clicking the scroll wheel by default.
>Target markingI put it on alt. I'm not fond of M3 binds in fast paced games. Great for something like Distract on Rogue in WoW, but I don't put anything on it in Darktide. Maybe if I wasn't retarded and used my right ring finger to hit RMB instead of my middle finger, but I've been fondling mice this way for over 20 years.
>>568603638Yep, that's exactly why I moved it too. I put the emote wheel there, generally it's low intensity with plenty of breathing room when I want to use that.
>>568601702Just wait until you have a heavy Ogryn in your squad>Doing good son.
>>568603771Oh, I might do that. I have it on tilde right now, which is fine since I mostly just use it for the Cheer, but being able to cheer without having to force myself into a straight line or stopping would be neat.
>>568601281Whenever I'd play versus l4d2 I could never bring myself to attack Coach
>>568603638>Target markingI put that on scroll up and just grind the wheel into the darkness anytime I'm paranoid about specials>Weapon specialI put that on scroll down
>>568604251I would absolutely fuck that up
>>568597178>Scum doesn't have much for extending the effective killing range of the standard shotScum has Sticky Hands, which gives you .-30% spread. That's massive on a shotgun since it's a passive buff that's always on. The only other spread reductions available for the combat shotgun are Exec Stance on vet(massive opportunity cost since it's your ability) and Dance of Death on zealot(conditional on successful dodges so have fun trying to hit that sniper while you're actively dodging attacks). The bigger issue is the slow reload time which drastically lower's Desperado's effectiveness(sure you get a free reload when you activate it, but that's true for every gun).I wouldn't really use it as ranged scum, but it has some other benefits on the hive scum. For instance, being able to load a single shell lets you trigger pic related without having to commit to a full reload, basically giving you 25% TDR on tap.
>>568604424ADS shot of the zarona is already a fairly tight spread, its effective killing range is more a factor of overall long range damage/dropoff. plus you don't want to reduce the spread of the special shot as that makes it worse at hitting a wide crowd.
>>568604424A tighter spread is the opposite of what you want in a game with the minimum pellet count mechanic, though.
>>568599298Speaking of keybinds, you may want to bind the communication and ping commands to different buttons too(they're both on the mouse wheel by default). This is because the ping button only tags enemies and items, while the communication button can tag the terrain. This lets you spam the ping button to seek out and tag a concealed enemy without spamming tags on terrain around it and annoying the shit out of everyone on your team.
>>568605489>Q isn't the default tag buttonoh fug I completely forgot
>>568604424>Havoc modifier is darkness>I fucking hate darkness, can't see shit and the maps aren't rote memorization to me yet>Ogryn and two premades Charge through the map at mach 2>Oh fuck I'm a slow as shitty Arby and I gotta keep up>Oh fuck bumbled into five hundred crushers>Dodge to the side to avoid an overhead>Fall off a ledge and die>Later>They pick me up and then rush ahead>Before I even manage to run after them, I get swamped by the horde of poxwalkers they've been ignoring and zooming past>Oh well my backs up against the wall, guess I'll just grind them down>Live with a sliver of health, spend a minute to figure out where the fuck I am in the map>Can't use them as guide because they're already off at the boss>Tell me to suicide>They can go fuck themselves>Stumble my way to med station, get to the boss fightWhere they using mods or were they just genuine hyper autists who can play the game blindfolded? They didn't use flash lights or flame staff, or really anything to light up the place to navigate by when I was spectatingThey just blitzed through the entire map like it was Mario Kart
>>568605760Fuck mbDid not mean to reply to (you)
>>568605489You can disable the terrain ping on repeated ping press in the game options somewhere. No need to overcomplicate it with another keybind
>>568604059makes me wonder if it'd be better or not to let people play as their own customized characters like in chivalry
40k gets the coolest fucking fan songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJLHNfu7_uY
>>568605243>>568605329Fair points, but if we're just talking about effective range, then lower spread is what you'd want.
>>568605760There's a handful of + movement speed nodes if you need help keeping up with an ogryn. But yes, we have all the maps memorized. It would be weird if we didn't, after thousands of hours.
>>568606887>if you need help keeping up with an ogrynI don't unless the modifier is darkness
>>568606458this is going to be AI, isn't it
>>568607154yeah, it was
>>568607324>>568607154>that cool thing you like? it's actually AI you wish jeet
>>568607464I sincerely hope you're joking. I don't want to believe anyone could have taste this shit, but there are now children who will have grown up with AI slop, so it's possible.
>spiders ITTWe shouldn't have chased the heckdivers away.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e3c427-59c9-409a-a3e8-863ae1380b46/havoc-9Thoughts on this havoc arbites I tried putting together? There are a few nodes I've taken that I think would be better spent elsewhere like razor jaw being swapped for go get em' to make my dog better at killing gunners. Maybe I should swap out RD for normal grenades. Should I just stick to my crusher BTL, lone wolf build instead?
>>568607637You got all the must-haves, the rest is up to personal preference. It's perfectly fine.
>>568606172But I need to tag terrain every now and then, and having the comms button bound to T is no big deal since I already got used to that in ratclick.
>>568608034Fair enough I just use the circle menu for that cause it's so rare
>>568607598>children who will have grown up with AI slop, so it's possible.Bleak
>>568607637Build is fine overall, only some minor points:Shield maul feels weak without the two damage nodes in the bottom right. You can safely drop Razor Jaw and Target Selection without too much of a loss.Alternatively, pick up the +% ammo and +% reload speed instead if you want to pretend to be a ranged build.+5% curio perks remain a bad meme, just take revive speed and cooldown reduction, or other resists.Puncture will likely provide more value than Cavalcade, even as the dedicated boss raper. Its sustained DPS is incredible and it will save you lots of ammo on safer boss fights that don't need to be solved right now, while also opening up some break points for bodyshots.I'd take shock mines over remote det.I'd accept it as the first application I guess, but it does nothing I'd want to round out a team. Then again, that's just arbitrator in general.>spoilerPlease don't do that.
>>568608451I miss when Arby dog was completely busted with the dog bolter bleed explosion, because I stumbled on it without realizing itI just ran Bolter because Bolters are fucking cool and so is the bolt pistolI also miss my three charges
>>568607624It’s fine, we have 40k gamers present, every single one of them is a natural bug hunter (hence why Tyranids are too scared to show up on Tertium)
>>568608762The bistol enables so much bullshit in this game, I love it.
>>568608990>Tyranids are too scared to show up on Tertium>He doesn't know>He is unawareYes definitely no tyranids on Tertium or the Mourning star
>>568608034>bound to TAre you a coffee alien from men in black, do you use your little hand to tag?
>>568607993Cool.>>568608451>two damage nodes in the bottom rightEmperor's fist and weight of the lex?>pretend to be a ranged buildThe bolter is just there to rape bosses. I just need a dedicated oh shit button for when my teammates fuck up.>Puncture will likely provide more value than CavalcadeThat was my mistake. I'm meant to be running cavalcade and puncture on my bolter. >Please don't do that.I swear, nearly everyone I bring this up to hates it but it genuinely feels so smooth to run. The damage is shit but the cleave, shoves and aoe skullcrusher are underrated imo.
>>568606458>This nigger is trying to shill his AI slop here after getting laughed out of the forums for trying the same shitLol.
>>568606887>But yes, we have all the maps memorizedheh... yeah...>quickplay into dark mission>the mission is already halfway through>spawn a mile away from team for some reason>where the fuck am I?>uh, I guess in some kind of metal corridor?>good thing I brought a flashl- no wait I have a boltgun>mfwt. 1500 hours in the game
>>568565136Player new to darktide here. Got 2 classes to 30 and finished some maximum difficulty missions. Is havoc worth it? Ngl game seems cancerous af on endgame difficulty with rigid meta and sadistic director that will always spawn a goon right behind you every time it gets a chance. Melee is worse than vermintide. In vermintide you could pull through with enough skill, doesnt seem to be the case here with the autistic difficulty mods that are possible
>>568609454>Emperor's fist and weight of the lex?Yes.>I just need a dedicated oh shit button for when my teammates fuck up.Can't you just play zealot? Both chorus and stealth counter bosses really hard. With thammer chorus you can even kill them (although you don't do much else).>spoilerYou're just describing the reverse situation of the "arbites is better ogryn" meme, where you just made a worse ogryn just because you don't also have a rumbler.
>>568605760>picrelI need to read that again, it was my first japanese light novel and I loved it.
>>568609454>Arby crusher enjoyerTeach me your waysI am so fucking tired of just using the shock maul for debuffing bossesBut the crushers feels slow as shit, do you have to run it with a pistol to make it bearable?
>>568609615>Is havoc worth it?Probably not anymore, I hear the 20-30 trench is pure cancer. It's worth playing your weekly game for the mats, but don't bother climbing if you don't enjoy it. Stop when you stop having fun.>Melee is worse than vermintide. In vermintide you could pull through with enough skill, doesnt seem to be the case here with the autistic difficulty mods that are possibleNo, you're just bad, and that's not a dig at you or anything. Once you git gud, you can kinda permakite through the entire map, at least in theory. Pure melee obviously doesn't work because you have to occasionally pull out your gun to shoot something, but that's what pistols exist for. Darktide is a melee game.
>>568609615The cosmetics are pretty great, but you don't have to climb to 40 to get them. Havoc 30-40 is where it's at it's hardest and worst. Really up until fading light 2 it's pretty easy. The biggest problem is functional party members
>>568609350What do you mean? It's right next to R which is used all the time, and there's never really a hectic moment in which you need to use comms anyway. You think I should bind it to my dick or something? Have a little button on my chair that I press with my boner?
Got to level 12 on scum. What did I think of it so far?
>>568609960>that's what pistols exist for.Where's my fucking pistol? Hadron you skank just give me a recon-lasgun with a Ripper handle on itWhat do you mean that's tech heresy?I'm starting to think this whole machine god thing is just an excuse for being lazy
>>568610413>it's the resolution freak againgodspeed >>568610502The kickback!
>>568610593>The kickback!That's a shotgun!How am I ever going to be a proper Kommando with this garbage>Give the big dumb guy an oversized musket for laughsThis is why I am reduced to throwing rocks at all of my problems
>>568610218>a button on your chair>not under your desk
Okay SM2: I'm fucking trash or something. Chaos spawns absolutely WRECK my shit as soon as there are a couple of them. I can deal with them in practice mode, but in the wild, I often even struggle with just one of them. What the fuck?
no skitty news from fartshark today either?time to cry myself to sleep :<
>>568610950Delay your parries.
>>568610950they have intentionally misleading attack warning prompts, get used to parrying or dodging based on when an attack is actually meant to hit you instead of the blue and orange flashesdodge out of multihit attacks after the first parry, or use Argent Edge to cancel them instantly, which is why it's considered so good
>>568609736>Can't you just play zealot? Both chorus and stealth counter bosses really hard. With thammer chorus you can even kill them (although you don't do much else)I'm gonna sound like a complete retard but when I tried Zealot it felt like he was made of paper. I also tried using the thunder hammer but the cleave and horde clear left me getting more annoyed than anything else. I kept getting hit by one or two little poxwalkers every fucking time which was making me more and more tilted, gunners were also a problem but that was probably a curio issue. Most importantly, the voice acting sucks compared to my arbitrator. >made a worse ogrynThat's just like your opinion man. >>568609878https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e3d3a5-8182-4e65-a727-8c56134a51b5/crusher-arb-2That's how I run my crusher, the attack speed actually feels pretty good thanks to lone wolf and hammer of judgement. You usually want to push every one or two attacks but you can perma-stagger just about everything. Against bulwarks you want to activate your special then you can hit their shield and they will still get staggered. If you want more damage you can swap out thunderous for slaughterer. You could also run the bolt pistol but something about swapping to the shotgun and blasting pellets feels better. Also good for bossing.
>>568612120>lone wolfYou monster
>>568612402I'm sorry but that 10% attack speed feels mandatory on the crusher. I tried both with and without and it was night and day.
>skitarii won't have a lone wolf node because the servoskull is just his blitz>the servoskull will be 10x more useful than the doghahaha, a fucking classic of the DLC class treadmill, each new class corrects the failings of the previous ones, making the failings of the old classes even more glaringchrist
>>568610502>>568610593>>568610845The ogryn's equivalent of the pistol/revolver is actually the ripper gun.>quick swap speed>holds 6 shots(6 X 3 shot bursts)>can take out any shooter or specialist easilyIt's the single most versatile ogryn gun because it can also fill many other roles>gunlugger with ripper>flechette + cavalcade(and other crit bonuses like the massacre talent)>consistent application of bleed on ranged hits while PBB is on cooldown>both bleed&burn while PBB is activeand it also works as a way to apply brittleness stacks on builds that need one, such as a cleaver melee build>can opener blessing>instant max stacks of brittleness on anything you stab with it>the stab counts as a melee heavy attack so if you have the batter talent, it'll also put 4 stacks of bleed on themIt's unfairly maligned because it is admittedly hard to aim(as it has the most recoil I've ever seen in any gun in any game), but once you get the hang of it it's the single best gun ogryn has, in many ways. Almost any build can work with it, if the gun itself has the correct blessings.
>>568610413So this is how an Arbiter sees the world huh?
>rippertard is backJesus Christ.
>>568612743If I don't have the dog I'd honestly rather play zealot for the gold healthIf I'm gonna just be CC king, I might as well go full healbitch
they should bake lone wolf's stat increases and grenade regen into arbites but let him keep the dog
>>568612832I shan't touch that piece of shit as long as the stability bug is present.
>>568613617yknow if theres one thing i always think this game needs, its more fucking power creep yessss bro i love 40 ragers at once
>>568613773you say this, and yet you're excited for skitarii
>>568613773>bro i love 40 ragers at once>mfw Ogryn can just stunlock them infinitely while ripping through themI always see it as my number one duty to keep the rager / crusher horde from sneaking up behind the psyker/vet
>>568606458>AII remember seeing a channel that had a bunch of Sisters of Battle themed songs that was kinda cool, but I assumed it was AI, especially with the AI art for videos. IIRC, the channel about section claimed she did all the female vocals. No idea if that's true. AIshit has me doubting everything now.
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>>568598917It's too far away, I might be dead by then.
>>568613463Probably shouldn’t a raccoon so close to his dogs. They can kill one if they’re vicious enough.>>568614109There’s really only one AI channel I’ve come across that’s worthwhile honestly all the others have been kinda lackluster in my experience.
>>568613671you just gotta get used to the horrible recoilonce you learn how to aim that thing you can take out even far away enemies with a burst or twoliterally a skill issue, not that I blame anyone for it, I can see how it's just not fun to use for a lot of people
>>568611721>get used to parrying or dodging based on when an attack is actually meant to hit you instead of the blue and orange flashesThat was something that pissed me off a LOT about that game. Who the fuck designs a game to give you prompts that are just fucking wrong? It's so twisted and trollish.
>>568612832>It's the single most versatile ogryn gunOh for a moment there I thought you were talking about a gun other than the rumblerThe only good ranged weapon that Ogryn gets>Bosses>Elites>Crushers>Maulers>Hordes>Fast>Gee how come Grendyl allows you to carry 30 sticky grenades?And it's still not a fucking pistol! You still two hand it!
>>568614667the orange and blue flashes are just there to warn you about unblockables and potentially off screen or otherwise obscured lunging attacksa lot of attacks get thrown at you with no indicators at all, you're meant to be watching the enemy, not the indicatorsit gets communicated like bamham but it's not bamham, so people assume there's overlap when there isn't
>>568614320>There’s really only one AI channel I’ve come across that’s worthwhile honestly all the others have been kinda lackluster in my experience.which one anon?
>>568614035i dont care it isnt fun to deal with on any classbut we're only here because the only way to challenge how fucking OP everything has become is to just throw a ton of bullshit at youi miss what the game used to be but right now its a visual and mechanical shitstain>>568614000im more concerned its going to be another powercrept room nuking retard because surely ANOTHER one of those will finally make the game fun
>>568615036No, a lot of the attacks line up with the prompts quite clearly. The devs simply decide to create an illusion of a rule and then belie the "rules" they seemingly established.>you're meant to be watching the enemy, not the indicatorsThat's all well and good until you put a bunch of flashy lights on my screen that's full of fucking enemies. It's hard enough picking out specific animations from a crowd of animations, even more so when you put giant blue/orange lights that distract the eye and obfuscate detail. It's just dumb.
>>568615274>but we're only here because the only way to challenge how fucking OP everything has become is to just throw a ton of bullshit at youFirst time?
>>568615410I don't have any trouble with it
>>568615418i literally also play warframe but that game still has enjoyment to be had due to the overall kind of game it is and features it has, of which darktide isnt and doesntif i wanted to play room nuking simulator, id go play that, but i dont want to, i want to play a game with tide combat, but both the devs and players seem to fucking hate that now so they do everything to overwrite it apparently
>>568615603Congrats. Practice predispenses trouble. Otherwise you wouldn't see autistic speedrunners completing dozens of consecutive frame-perfect maneuvers to do ridiculous skips. It's still a retarded design decision.
>>568615274>i dont care it isnt fun to deal with on any class>Haha flamestaff for fwoosh>Haha giant moonlight greatsword slash just evaporated this entire hall of enemiesI don't know if you can still do the infinite parry and then make them explode with soulfire anymore, but that was the funniest shit ever with blocking giving you perilI'm just glad we aren't playing crushertide anymore, I was getting really tired of being shit out of luck if I couldn't deal with ten crushers sneaking up behind me
>>568615710It's the opposite for me, but that's probably just because I played warframe for far longer than DarktideI remember when Trinity was the strongest warframe in the gameI remember doing pub raids back before they removed them from the gameBack before everyone had infinite self sustain, energy, health and damage
>>568612773Wrong
>>568615274>but we're only here because the only way to challenge how fucking OP everything has become is to just throw a ton of bullshit at you>im more concerned its going to be another powercrept room nuking retard because surely ANOTHER one of those will finally make the game funThese are my issues with the game too.The game isn't fun when the only challenge can be achieved is the AI director snorting crack and 60 gorillion crushers, bulwarks, maulers, ragers and then spawning like 6 fucking bosses on top of one another.It's just becomes a mess of fucking particles and sound effects where I can't even tell what the fuck is happening half the time because 90% of my screen is taken up by the the SHEER AMOUNT of enemy mass in front. So as an ogryn I just resort to looping heavy attacks to keep my toughness up and hope I do SOME sort of damage.Then on other hand Fatshark then making classes who might as well be fucking thermo nuclear bombs on legs, who just kill everything both on lower and high difficulties before you manage to do anything yourself. It's just straight up cancer.It's neither fun, interesting or even engaging anymore.And it's even worse when they keep refusing to make new maps and biomes for the REGULAR base game, aka the thing everybody likes and wants to play.Same with weapons for other classes. Last weapons we got were in Bound by Duty in 2025, it's been 8 months since we got any new weapons, and it's been like YEAR AND HALF since ogryn got anything.
>>568616473ntaBut that actually doesn't disprove anons pointIt hovering around you and shooting stuff like a Warframe sentinel, while having all of the Blitzes rather than just one tied to it.The Arbitrators dog problem is that they gave the arby lone wolf because they chickened out in case people hated the dog.If the dog was mandatory, the buffs that feel necessary for certain weapons wouldn't exist.
>>568616176yeah im fully aware warframe did go through the same whole treatment and lots of mechanics got basically completely overwritten or just ignored, but my point was that warframe as a whole still manages to be an enjoyable experience due to the whole package. but most of what darktide has going for it is the mechanics that are being bent over and fucked right now>>568615941not only is that only on one class, the most busted one in the game, but you are giving examples of the most overpowered weapons in the entire game that are the prime example of what is wrong with the balance>>568616697thank god theres people who see the issue on this board, its just so miserable
>>568614730>delayed detonation>arced projectile trajectory>magazine size is 1the rumbler is good, but it works nothing like a pistolthe ripper has a lot of the good things you'd want from a pistol weapon, even if you still brace it with 2 hands
>>568616697>the only challengeIt's because you're not engaging in the true endgameCarrying 3 shitters through lower difficulties while using a suboptimal build yourself because you're eitherA: leveling and hoping someone else will carryB: Got tired of havoc meta and just wanted to bring a FUN build for onceClutching out a victory for a bunch of shitters never gets old
>>568616473Anon, you do realize that the servo skull hovering near you, does not exclude it from being your blitz.It's very likely the servo skull is the blitz for the class, but you then get 3 option in the skilltree to decide WHAT the servo skull does as a blitz.
>>568616748Jumped the gun on the "just his blitz" part.My hypebrain thinks the weapon options are like scums crate and you pick one, while the blitzes are more active shit.Scany boy, explody boy, medicy boy, voxy boy.
>>568616982>it's because [made up retarded shit I just came up with to cope with the fact there is no actual endgame content]
>>568616949>the mechanics that are being bent over and fucked right nowIt's a processWe're all basically betatesting for Darktide 2: Genestealer editionWhere people will finally get to play as sisters of battle because the power scaling has finally reached that point.
>>568617236>no actual endgame contentHow many thousands of hours anon? It's not forbidden to play other gamesNot every game needs to be a forever gameYou are capable of coming up with challenges for your own right?You aren't a literal golem who needs to be told how to have fun in a video game?
>>568610502>Where's my fucking pistol?I still think that Darktide should've given all classes 3 weapons, 1 "big" ranged weapon, 1 pistol and 1 melee.Ogryn or zealot get the ability to equip a 2nd melee weapon in the pistol slot.I say this purely because I want a build for my ogryn with a ripper gun + slab shield + big hand cannon revolver.
>>568601985I would find where you live and murder you.
>inb4 Sisters of Battle would just be ZealotWe don't call them bolter bitches for nothing
>>568612832>it also works as a way to apply brittleness stacks on builds that need one, such as a cleaver melee buildGood news, none of the cleavers need can opener brittleness anymore. They each have a workable anti-armour combo that does fine on its own. Two of which open with a push which easily flows with Brutish Strength talent if you still feel the need for brittleness
>>568617484This is still just you huffing copium over the fact that this game has no actual end game. I know that games don't need to be forever games, but unironically making up shit like>bro just play with sub optimal loadouts with shitty weapons and clutch missions in pubbie retard lobbies that is the "real" end gameIs actual fucking cope.You say I am a golem, but you yourself are doing the dumbest shit imaginable to extract every little piece of "content" from the game.
>>568618217it is my honest and genuine expectation that they're holding off on heavy bolter so they can give it to the Sister of Battle
>>568618217>this bolter + chainsword wielding religious maniac is definetly different from this other bolter + chainsword wielding religious maniac
>>568618318>the dumbest shit imaginableReplaying the leveling experience and vicariously enjoying every fuck up you watch new players make?It's the best part of a fresh influx of playersIt's almost like you enjoy being miserable
>>568618675Honestly lame, it would fit ogryn better.
>>568618801>uhm akchually i love playing with anthropomorphized anchors that i need to be saving every 30 seconds because they can't do anythingYou call others golems and then say shit like this. The lack of self-awareness is tangible.>frogposters and retarded fucking opinionsName a better duo.
>>568618692Yes because one of them is wearing Power armor and gets to play with the space marinesDarktide 1 is just the epic backstory for our characters to get to fight alongside the Imperiums finestIf you think we've moved beyond being simply Rejects with the introduction of Skitarii? That's nothing compared to Sisters of Battle fighting alongside usThey are complete brainwashed Schola Progenum soldiers like the Adeptus Arbites, but with fucking POWER ARMORAlso remember that Genestealer routinely take out space marines in TERMINATOR ARMOR
>>568618274I'm well aware sir. But I still prefer being able to instantly put 40% brittleness on enemies on some builds. Brutish Strength has a point tax of also having to take Slam, and it still can't apply stacks as fast as Can Opener on the enemies that you really want to apply brittleness on.
>>568619119Then why do you play the game if you obviously aren't enjoying it and don't want suggestions on how to enjoy it?I swear you faggots would never have survived the dark souls community>Spend thousands of hours on the game>Doesn't want to teach other people how to enjoy the game so he can keep the game aliveActual retard take, you aren't buying cosmeticsI'm not buying cosmeticsYou aren't a paypig are you?Or have you reached jewish levels of spite towards the world? Or just Fatshark in particular?
So admech was the obvious class from day 1. Arbites was fine, but ganger feels like an easy low hanging fruit to get some money and activity while they work on the thing everyone actually suspected from day 1, which is admech.But from here things are less obvious.Personally I would love a xenos mercenary. Kroot, slyyth, and votann are often hired by imperials and work with humans all the time, and votann even has the added benefit of being the Bardin stand-in, they already have experience with his body type.I would also love a SoB. They would show up to help just like the Arbites did, and you could have cool faith powers like Zealot. As many have pointed out, they would have mechanical and flavor overlap with Zealot, so to differentiate them, SoB would have an armor system since they would be the first power armored character where you can customize your armor, just like how Scum can customize their chem and admech will customize his servo skull. You could be a hospitalier (support), Retributor (access to unique multi-melta and heavy bolter), or a Dominion (power swords, meltaguns, flamers). There's actually a lot you can do here with armor and weapons in addition to faith powers to differentiate from Zealot.I also like the idea of a Cold Trader. It would be a way to have needlers, chem weapons, shuriken weapons without adding a playable eldar, and eldar melee weapons without adding a playable eldar.They could also split up the psyker into multiple classes. Having one psyker cover everything is constraining them. They could split it into a Biomancer who is melee and toughness orientated, and Mystic who is lightning and shield orientated like now. A Telepathy psyker could see enemy outlines through walls, and get advance warning of spawns as their unique mechanic.Splitting Veteran is possible too, sniper, medic, artillerist, etc can all be separate.A Commissar who shoots allies for group buffs.40k is vast, they really have a lot to work with.
>>568613463Okay I tried running a nuncio-aquila version with a bolter secondary and execution order with the mastiff. Even without the extra 10% from the lone wolf passive you still feel pretty good. Just swap out lone wolf for whatever node you want instead. I don't think you hit the stagger breakpoint for ragers so just be a bit careful though, keep your grenades for them and use the dog to peel when necessary.
>There are people in this thread who treat darktide as a competitive PVE gameHoly shit that's even more sad than people who run mythic keystones to austic extremesAnd the wow sweatlords are all modders too, it makes perfect senseThe problem with wow raiding was always the arms race between making fun boss encounters, and modders not completely trivializing every encounter by giving players all of the timers and warnings anytime a mechanic they need to pay attention to comes upThen they complain they the fight is too easy, and they introduce true mythic ultra plus where the difficulty is balanced around everyone using mods to practically play the game for themKids don't use performance enhancing mods unless you're actually paid to win
show me the feminine skitussy, fatshit
>log in to darktide to kill heretics>show my ass and play like shiti just want to have fun in aurics
>>568621015ThanksI'll give it a try since I dig the look
>>568623826The shitty red skin for maxing out a mastery on weapons I feel exist purely to clash so hard with everything to temp you to buy weapon skins
>Dodge? Spacebar>Jump? Forward mb>Crouch? CYep it's gaming time
So given that the servo skull can have a flamethrower attachment then surely it will be a limited duration thing and not active at all times like the dog? Having passive flamethrower support seems way too good
>third unique slot for each class>zealot: second melee weapon, if two smalls can dual wield>veteran: second small ranged weapon, ammo splits between both, can dual wield a small gun + sword>ogryn: just a second weapon of any sort, big man can carry lots of shit>psyker: psy-curio that lets your blitzes scale like a weapon so they arent either useless at high levels or overpowered at low levels, please god my assail, or just give them a gun+staff and let them dual wield a staff with a laspistol>arbitrator: shield slot, you can use a shield with any one handed weapon and there's a few options>scum: idfk let them dual wield more shit>skitarius: idfk yet servo skull upgrades maybe? or little deployable gadgets? who knows what their kit will bewould be a great update
>>568624782It would be pretty funny if the little skull fella just kept shooting fire all the time
double ripper damagedouble ripper reservesdouble ripper reload speeddouble ripper magazine sizedouble ripper fire ratedouble ripper accuracydouble ripper recoildouble ripper bloom
>>568624148You\re right I should wear the red uniform insteadIt\s the only customization you get as Arby anywayFeels really good, I like this build
>>568625186bro its already ogryns strongest gun, RELAX
>>568623826>>568624148The free "fire wastes" weapon skins from the commissary go really well with the red operative skins that you get from penances, even on the arbitrator.
You can still look pretty cool even without any premium stuff.
>>568624782it's a paid class and the playerbase confirmed that class powerlevel was a big motivator for buying a class so yes, it will be busted
>all base classes and arbite at 30 +350 account level>experience a crash maybe once every couple weeks>get hive scum class>third mission with him crash as soon as I join mission in progress>crash immediately on reconnect twice more
>>568627017I don't know if I'd call Ghetto BDSM Mall Santa cool
>>568627872turn off your cheats
guys hive scum finally clicked for mebad news: it's melee hive scum
>>568628883>bad news is using the fun and good way to play scum
>>568624782You can tweak everything to be shitty enough to be always on.
>>568628468You don't think grandpa with a greatsword is cool? I guess we have different ideas of what is cool.
I'm confused. Did they or did they not buff the Buff Butchers to be better into carapace?
>me, having known melee scum was fucking amazing from the moment the class dropped, only to be told by everyone here that it was a meme build and that they'd kick me from their havocs, only to be vindicated by melee scum being accepted as the designated way to play him months later
>>568629303Yeah retard it received absolutely nuclear buffs in between those. Shit is twice as strong in melee as it was on release.
>>568629430name one
>>568628883Melee Scum is the only Scum I've played since I finished leveling it. Melee is just way more fun than anything else, and blender mode makes it twice so.
>>568625226>mfw I've converted someone else into the crusher cultJust a heads-up that its not the most optimal thing in the world. I'm by no means good at the game so take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt but you start hurting around the havoc 25+ mark. In my experience that's when you really start feeling how poor the damage is and maybe it was just a glitch but I just had multiple scab gunners not get staggered by crusher hits into their heads with a follow up push which led to me getting gunned down. Gunners can and will chew through you in an instant. That being said it still feels decent for horde clear but definitely not the same monster it was in auric maelstroms. I genuinely felt like such a detriment to my team in my last game, I bring no damage and we already had an ogryn with skullcrusher. Its not like I could tank well either since I would melt in half a second from gunners.
>>568629303Everyone saying it was bad was just outing themselves for being bad at the game and/or having bad fundamentals because they kept eating shit. That, or they were using shit weapons.>>568629430It was very strong Day 1. Buffs and fixes just made it better.
>>568629523they removed the damage and stamina debuff for rampage that happened when the ability went on cooldown
>>568629849was never an issue, is not a "nuclear buff"here's what really happened>some changes occurred to melee scum that were insignificant>the retard horde finally migrated to melee scum because someone said it was GIGABUFFED>they all said woah wtf melee scum is busted OP after the buffs! because they had 0 frame of reference to how it had always been since launch
I think I might like Tac axe more than shivs on my hive scum.
>>568629817Look at all these cuties brought in by the promise of skittiesIt's like being a mini Ogryn, but you have a dog and don't have to fatrollNever tried the Strength blessing on the arby shotgun before, I'm liking the +20% strength for +5 sec so farDoes it also boost the Crushers damage? I get the feeling that it does but I haven't looked it up.
reminder that the first duo havoc 40 scum clear that was posted was two melee scums with shivs and needle pistols
>>568630082I find it to be better personally. You can skip brutal momentum if you have hyper critical and go headtaker decimator and it feels absurdly strong
>>568630234Who cares about autistic freaks, don't balance shit around neets who hyperfocus on garbage
i have a bad feeling that skitarii is going to disappoint
>>568630069Dude.. I haven't played melee scum since launch to get them penances... are you saying it's now STRONGER?
>>568628710As soon as they fix their game.
>>568626619I'm stealing thisI love larping as an Imperial Captain
>>568630483I have a feeling that, if anything, it'll be way too goddamn strong, but the talent tree does look fairly bloated with tax nodes, doesn't it.
>>568630082Tac Axe is quite fun on Scum. I find Shivs better still, but I also haven't run Decimator on it like the other anon mentioned. I left it HT+BM. Might have to try it out with Decimator later.
>>568630762my problem is that it isnt going to have any weapons i care about. skitaari arent allowed to use the omnissian axe so we'll be going another year without any true polearms in darktide and it makes me very sad
>>568630762In one of the dev interviews you can see a node that says something like>+15% damage for 8 seconds after hitting a burning, bleeding, soulblazed, toxin or electrocuted enemyand it just made me wonder, when would this shit ever not be up? Considering this character FOR SURE has electrocute in his kit given that multiple talents use it. I don't like those sort of talents. You HAVE to take them because it's +15% damage nearly unconditionally
>>568630082I'm leveling scum right now, using tac axe feels a lot more forgiving than shivs with brutal momentum and the push.
>>568627017I just hate that there aren't very many good poorfag hats :(
>>568630069>had always been since launchLiterally until an eceleb tells them a build to carry them through the problem, then it's bullshit and too hardThey might as well get used to this kind of behavior if they intend to capture the chink market.
>>568630231>don't have to fatrollThe downside is that you can't knock enemies over by dodging but at least you don't get trappered through walls. You can still get trappered during your BTL. I am still mad.>Does it also boost the Crushers damage?I think so but you aren't using the crusher for damage so it doesn't matter much. Depending on how your matches go switch to the boltpistol if there are a bunch of snipers or the bolter if you need bosskilling.
>>568631056>another attempt at power sword>dual wielded shortsword and dagger>dragon's breath revolver>steampunk garandno weapons you care about? really?
>>568627017>ZealotNice Mordheim cosplay grandpa
>>568631390>power sword round 6 or something i really dont care that much, honestly>dual wielded shortsword and daggeri dont think this is an actual thing but id love to be proven wrong. seems alright>dragon's breath revolveri actually really dislike short ranged guns. im genuinely sick of the flamethrower and flame staff, so no, i absolutely do not care about this whatsoever>galvanic rifle/arquebuspretty good. no complaints.
>>568631269it's gotta be on purpose, to make people buy more premium cosmeticsI bought this hat
>>568615418Kek>>568619216> Also remember that Genestealer routinely take out space marines in TERMINATOR ARMORWhat does that have to do with anything
>>568631389Oh I love using the arby shotgun, it's my comfort ranged weapon since you just kinda aim vaguely in the direction of snipers and pellet count usually ensures that you oneshot them even at great rangeOtherwise I mostly just use it to run around and delete specials if I'm not in meleeIn my experience it's that one trapper that ends a run, or getting grabbed because you're a fat ass by a mutie and you dodged one pico-second too late because server latency meant the mutie was already in melee and now you're being held down face first in napalm because of course there's a fucking flamer
>>568631702>i dont think this is an actual thing but id love to be proven wrong
>>568617239I doubt we’re going to see another new game from them anytime soon or if they’re even still capable of making one. At this point we’re already operating comfortably within that power level so they’ll likely just add them to base Darktide instead of waiting who knows how long a fucking Darktide 2 is going to take (ignoring the time it would take to make it functional at that).
>>568631707Wouldn't you know, it works for almost all of my outfits
>>568632010nothing in this image indicates that any combination of any of the depicted weapons are dual wielded together
>>568632007Its so fucking gay when you get chain grabbed by muties especially with their bloated hp on higher difficulties. If two or more spawn and you're trying to clutch it becomes hell. The other cancerous experience is when a mutie holds you up into a squad of gunners so you get instantly nuked.
You just know Fatalist is going to use his Inquisitorial Seal to bother some politicians and nobles if he survives Tertium
>>568604251This is how I avoided carpal tunnel doing melee builds in Warframe, putting melee on the scroll wheel
>>568632101Anon when you looked at this image and you saw the "6 Deluxe Weapon Skins" bit superimposed. Why did you think it's put there?
>>568632101
>>568632101"6 deluxe weapon skins"I am of the belief that it is disappointing that they aren't separate but they are definitely together
>>568632305>Oh you missed the 180 no scope friendly rock?>Get fucked for the next minute and just hope your allies will prevent a special from turning you into roast chicken or netting you
wtf is in the needle gun that it could poison NURGLE enemies to death
>>568632007>spoilerThis is the reason I use 2 flamer/bomber resists on tanky classes. You can actually just tank through the flames that way lol.Also a reason to invest in health curios btw. Bigger pool = bigger buffer against fuck-ups.
>>568613773>bro i love 40 ragers at onceme but unironically, I've been playing an armor-cleaving build with zealot and a wall of ragers or maulers gets me salivating for what I'm about to do to the kill feed.
>>568632396It's going to get taken away and even then, Mooks like Interrogators only get shitty seals that mark them as extension of an Inquisitor's will, ultra-mooks like us only get them on specific tasks and they're basically nothing more than a fancy paperweight. It's not a "real Rosette".Trying to push your weight with one like that after concluding your business with Grendyl and Rannick would at best earn you a big belly laugh and at worst a visit from Inquisition asking why the fuck are you impersonating them.
>>568624148>clash with everythingNot for much longer
>>568632101the datamine from like 2 months ago literally had "transonic sword and knife" as a name for a single equippable weapon, the same datamine that literally has been proving multiple times over to be true
>>568632838fent
>tfw shock maul taser muscle memory got me killed to a single rager when using the crusherThat charge up is uh...Pretty long
>>568632919>tfw I fell for the toughness meme
>>568633641Toughness is close to optimal on most builds, but many genuinely benefit from 1 health curio preventing one-shots in havoc 40.Psyker is a health curio class btw. Off the charts levels of tankiness in auric, it's fucking retarded man.
>>568632458>>568632490>>568632526>>568633186it's not dual-wielded. you can see that weapon in one of the promotional images they shared on twitter and there's only one weapon in that skitarii's hand. so unless its using a custom animation that hides the offhand weapon unintentionally then its only one weapon.it's far more likely that swedes cant count. it'd also be funnier
>>568632838This has been talked about before chemical and toxin weapons are effective against them that’s how the Tyranids stalemated the Death Guard
>>568633437After starting with the crusher I could never get into the shock maul. The horde clear feels so shit in comparison.
>>568633865I really wanted a new knife weapon too, but I'm afraid it's true anon
>>568634082NTA but that's crazy, the shock maul is like the only arbie weapon I even like using
i exclusively play cop with lmao2shield because im a shitteralso i like being able to countersnipe snipers with complete and total impunity because im an aimlet and a baffoon
>>568634318I like the arbie shock maul but the original one feels like complete shit. The cleave feels so small.
>>568634541>the original one feels like complete shit.Like I said that's crazy, but I think that's a sign of a good weapon spread when different people can find different comfort weapons. I feel like Sauron with that thing throwing armor enemies around left and right. Fantastic "policing" weapon too, I'm just in that bitch playing whack-a-mole interrupting crusher/mauler windups until the rest of my team has murdered them. I also don't get the point of arbites shock maul, idk maybe I'm just retarded.
Ok so there wasn't any news today, but there will be next tuesday!
>>568634431I can't stand the melee shield because it feels slow as molasses, but I am the same way about snipers with the pistol shield, holy moly it feels so good to be the dedicated "suffer not the sniper to live" role
Finally, we have beginner discussions againIt's like the sound of tiny footsteps in your house and the laughter of children
Haven't gotten to the needle gun or bonesaw yet, why do people shill them so much? Needle gun I can see with the DoTs and such but why the saw?
Oh so it's LEFT click to hit stuff
>>568634082I just needed to remember why I put +damage to maniacs on my shotgunIt's so nice to have a fast weapon swap, whatever the fastest swap gun Skitarii gets will be likely be the one I use, unless the Arc gun is really disgustingly good.As for using the regular shock maul? It also applies debuffs with head taps due to Concussive and they come out pretty fast, so you just r1 spam kinda like the bully club while aiming at heads and pushing hordes while dodging.The taser is just a great panic button and drains the captain / twin shields decently fast
>>568636797The saw is the most interesting hive scum weapon, but hive scum play best when they're spamming super fast attacks to keep their rampage and toughness up. It's not a bad weapon, it's just much worse than the shivs
>>568633865>you can see that weapon in one of the promotional imagestheyve shown dregs using lasguns in promotional images, i wouldnt use those as definitive evidence, especially not when like i said, >>568634184 the datamines literally have it as one equippable object
>>568633865There are 2 sword weapons, retardSingle sword and sword and dagger
I finally went back to Chainsword + Bolter Zealot for shits. It's been kinda fun, but good god do I feel limp against Mauler and Crusher packs.
>>568635994Kek sure man>>568636628Damn you’re right it is kind of refreshing I wonder how long they’ll last and stick around
>>568638008That's the chainsword for you
>>568635994We're going to flatten you if you end up wrong again
>>568638008Imagine going zealot and picking chainsword over eviscerator You have got to be a little gay fella who submits to big men
i'm bad at polehammer 50k dark time
>>568638317Gulp
>>568638282Yup. Was expecting it, but still. What I was surprised by was how fucking garbage it is against bosses. Going from the Eviscerator that just rapes them to the Chainsword that tickles was a jarring contrast.>>568638352Play the game longer
>>568636835>Imagine having a weapon skill that requires more brain cells than mash buttons and bad man fall overCouldn't be meI see why it isn't meta now, shitters can't get carried through havoc 40 True survivor with itThat was the crux of the issue
why are so many weapons in this game so motherfucking catastrophically unreasonably fucking BAD
>>568619216>but with fucking POWER ARMORits inferior power armor compared to what a space marine with a black carapace can achieve.
>>568639007Fatshark thought:>high impact justifies low damage>special attacks justify low damage>good soft target horde clear justifies low damage against armor
>>568639045>its inferior power armor compared to what a space marine with a black carapace can achieve.Fun fact = Getting shot by a necron? You're fucking deadSister of Battle getting shot? She livesAs far as being bullet proof and being made out of las-reflective Ceramite? And having actuators that boost their strength?No matter how many cosmetics you buy for your Zealot, you're still just a hobo in clothes and makes flak if you're lucky.Also they get jump jets and get to use all of the heavy weapons that guard need a heavy weapons team for.Because Power armor gives them the strength to haul them around while jogging next to the ZealotIt's quite the jump in power level to have recoil gloves so you can one hand bolters like a space marine
Rampage or stimm supply for leveling?
>>568639720Rampage pretty much always. There are not a lot of cases where you would rather use stimm supply
>>568639508Seems coolI'd play it
skitussy beta primussy
>>568639508>Fun fact = Getting shot by a necron? >You're fucking dead>Sister of Battle getting shot? She livesSource? That just sounds like a case of comically bad writing. There’s no reason a Sister should be anymore resistant to being pulled apart at the molecular level than anyone else other than weird miracle shenanigans
Alpha Primus Skitarius?So is this like an Omegaverse thing or what?
>>568639508>It's quite the jump in power level to have recoil gloves so you can one hand bolters like a space marineNot really? It’s not like they’re using space marine bolters. Impressive sure but not SM level.
>>568639007because a couple weapons were way stronger than everything else by a landslide and rather than nerf (bad evil word) those to align with where the rest of the game was at, they buffed (good happy joy word) the enemies to meet those weapons where they were atthanks god for helldivers balance!
>>568640801Omega Pregnant Skitarius will be my skitty's name
>>568640772https://youtu.be/B9V0bOB8sXQ?t=54
>>568639508Great, we agree then that Sister of Battle would make a meaningfully distinct class from Zealot. But is definitely not too OP to fit into the Darktide setting as part of an auric level acolyte squad in service to the inquisition.
Run and Gun should let you reload while sprinting. Why not? Nobody takes that shit anyway. It'd just make the shredder pistol more fun.
>>568640772They don't call it POWER ARMOR for nothing, it's the same concept as Fallout 4 power armor, it's sci fi bullshit and rule of coolBecause we need S3 T3 space marines with a 3+ save, but they still need to look like hot nuns with gunsIt's not deepIt's space orks tolkien nerd shit
>>568640995I'm naming mine Alpha Ligma Sugma
>>568641515finally the kickback would have a blessing that meaningfully impacts its gameplay!
>>568641282Wow. So quite literally a combination of both like I said. Are these trailers actually ‘canon’? As far as I know a lot of them are exclusively promotional material that don’t actually portray any particular events and are basically made up on the spot but I think there are some exceptions.
>>568641546I'm naming mine CyberneticChastityCage
>>568641715That's pretty weird
>>568641515The Shredder pistol has run and gun built in. I mean its a fine idea but you don't even need it.
>the powerlevel of SoBs is too high>Introducing Alpha Sigma Optimus Prime GigaNigga Skitarii!>the powerlevel of SoBs might not be too high after all
>>568641715I was gonna name mine HadronIsMyKeyholder
>>568641762It's Pretty Skitarii
>>568641414>But is definitely not too OP to fit into the Darktide setting as part of an auric level acolyte squad in service to the inquisition.I agree because they were actually a class in the Fantasy Flight roleplaying gameAlong with ArbitersThey did not start out with power armor usually, but there's was also infinitely better than the ones you could buy if you somehow got the insane amounts of cash to buy one (Hello priests who have the highest salary and have a tendency to end up as Puritanical Inquisitors if they live long enough, The Mechanicus likes to bribe the Inquisition, because then they can strongarm them into protecting their assets like Atoma)But they are perfect power level scaling for genestealer
>>568632396Wait I didn't even notice they get Inquisitorial Seals, I thought only scums got them
>>568641787Yeah I know, that's what I'm saying. If Run and Gun let you reload while sprinting it would functionally change nothing because people still wouldn't take it over damage, so it would only make the shredder more fun to play with. Which is also a gun nobody ever takes anyway.
>>568640995Clanker detectedGo jerk off to Battletech iron wombs instead
>>568632838bleach
>>568641532Sure, but 40k tends to have internal rules and structure regardless, even if it does have exceptions, we’re never going to see a Guardsman take on an army of tyranids by his lonesome without some extremely exceptional circumstances to give one extreme example, which is why it’s best to ask for context and clarification with stuff like this.
>there's only one weapon in that skitarii's handwhich also happens to be not the one depicted next to a knife, anon
>>568641682Sisters praying to overcome various injuries or even death is canon. Living Saints fly around and shoot fire out of their hands, and even regular soldiers have a chance to ignore lethal injuries (represented on tabletop by them all, every single model and vehicle, having a 6+ invulnerable save that can be taken even if a weapon pierces armor).It's core to their faction identity that their faith lets them do supernatural things. It's different from warp abilities that come from psykers, because they continue to work in places where psykers are cut off from the warp, such as the pariah nexus.
>>568641682>Are these trailers actually ‘canon’?They are 100% accurate with both codex entries and the tabletopThey are nearly as durable as space marines, the difference being that between an Ork and a Human (Imperial Guard)They are basically perfect for Darktide to give us Space Marine 2 levels of power fantasy, but keeping it grounded and human, because holy fuck a genestealer will eat her for lunch if it gets closeIf you think stealth crushers are bad?Imagine an extragalactic xenomorph turned up to 11 that eats Space marine terminators for lunch.>Muh Ogryns crunched a BroodlordIronically a better chance versus a genestealer, through sheer layers of fucking fatPower armor is like butter to Genestealer in the lore and they're so one of the most insanely fast speedy boys in the setting, if you don't gun them down with heavy flamers and bolter fire? You are fucked, and you are not surviving it sneaking up behind you.Usually you call in the Deathwatch for fighting genestealer cultsAcolytes are not built to fight them
>talk to someone on mourningstar for a little bit, both wearing same outfit>want to party up>can't and cant figure out why (was probably crossplay)>say goodbye and go to separate missions >only find social tab now and could have added them on steammissed out on a darktide friend, sad
>An entire new cast of badiesYou don't understandGamesworkshop really wants people to buy Genestealer cults, they're the most expensive army to collect of them all.And they have so many special characters, they're practically built to be villains (This is exactly what they did in the Rogue Trader RPG)I imagine it will largely be hybrids and cultists, with the occasional earlier stages of hybrids acting like ragers, crushers and really all of the specials we have +more>We are going to get assaulted by a three armed freak with a giant rock cutting tool he revs like a chainsaw, before sprinting at you like an insane madman with no sense of self preservation
>>568643197imagine being an imperial citizen during the first few years of a genestealer cult>meet a lady at a bar, she's wants casual sex, but then she wants marriage, and then she wants children all in the span of an afternoon>suddenly you have this big group of friends who act as a commune>your kids have scales but you don't notice, it's okay they'll go to the private school your big friend group made>everything is fine and dandy in the imperium, under the watchful eye of the four armed god emperor
>>568642248Exactly guardsmen just aren't on sisters power scalingBut that's why we have Commissars! Shout is the only Vet build anyone wants on their team anyway, And someone has to shoot the specials at range.I would say Plasma gun has a decent chance at downing a genestealer. But anything smaller than a bolter? You're kinda fucked.By the time Hive Scums poison has killed it, it'll also have shredded said hivescumThe only way they could do the Genestealer justice in Darktide, is by making it a glass cannon threat that does nothing but lightning fast overheats, giving you 1-2 blocks at most before it starts tearing you to shreds. Undodgeable pure DPS check
>>568643730>overheatsI meant overheadsInsomnia is a bitch
>>568643921It's almost 04:00, anon
Wait hold on shredder on scum is crackhead kino though
>>568642535I mean thanks for the response but I know all of this. Their faith abilities are inconsistent at best, as proven by the fact that they’re killed at all, and it’s something I myself mentioned in my original post. That last part too is inconsistent since GW doesn’t actually seem to know if they want to them to be separate things or not at this point in time (Celestine had her aura cancelled out around the blackstone pylons). My main issue here is that Necron Gauss rifles (the lowest level of Necron ordinance) are usually portrayed as being able to kill in one shot, and when they don’t, they at least completely disassemble the body part affected, so to see that Sister walk away with just her hand glowing is… just jarring, to say the least. Not impossible since yeah faith magic and shit but it still doesn’t sit right with me. >>568642737>They are 100% accurate with both codex entries and the tabletopNeat, is there a source or GW statement confirming this? I also think you’re confusing Genestealers and Genestealer cults. Genestealers are the somewhat glass cannon ones that zip around with the super sharp claws. The cults are the mutated people who take over all levels of society on a world and usually use regular imperial weaponry to overthrow it with some special units mixed in and are likely the ones we would be fighting since they’re pretty much 1:1 with the current enemies we’re fighting now (and thus easier for Fatshark to implement).
>>568644232shredder is kino on arbites, psyker, and zealot as well
>>568644368The ammo consumption though
>>568644457Doesn't matter in his malice games
>>568644457>interacting with resource management causing me to make decisions about pacing and forcing my way through the map and creating high-low moments naturally as i progress through the missionoh no, game mechanics, whatever shall i do?
>>568644740That's a lot of words to say "I eat up all the ammo pickups"
>>568644283I'm not confusing them, they're the same factionThey're also in space hulk and in the games against the deathwingI'm telling you what their actual stats are, which is what the lore is generally written to reflect with one exception being Space marines because they're the super important faction that caries the brand.But on the tabletop? They're just guardsmen in space marine armor, with the same bolters and heavy weapons so they aim slightly worse.In the fantasy flight RPGs they differentiated it between systems, you were a great deal more powerful when playing as Elite Deathwatch Space marines, you were basically all Titus.The genestealer was still a respectable enemy in that setting could fuck you up in a turn or two, but nowhere near the "total party wipe" XCOM chrysalid tier bullshit encounterI very much doubt we'll get to fight the Patriarch, a regular genestealer will be devastating enough as a bossIt's basically a horror survival game the moment one shows up, especially if you split up. Dog but near instant death for a human.
>>568644942>DPS check dog and it doesn't even bark, you just hear one of your psyker die instantly to overdamage from behindHow horrifying
desperately want an actual healer. like you look at someone, press F, and it gives them piss toughness on a short cooldown or somethin
>>568644283It's not "jarring", it makes total sense and the faction has been this way for 20+ years with no problems. The emperor only intercedes on their behalf if their faith is strong enough, sisters die by the billions, it doesn't not make sense for them to die. You're having trouble understanding a really simple ability that other people don't have problems understanding and then blaming the material.
>>568645219>Immune to most CC like the burgle>Constant rapid tracking Crusher overheads from four arms>It runs faster than the player, faster than the dogYeah we're going to need Multi-Melta's if they actually introduce genestealers, they're the xenomorph of the 40k setting after all.These things are all mind flayers with hypnotic gaze that stuns youYou need to be a ultra indoctrinated psychopath (Hmm Sefoni what are you doing again?) to withstand it's gaze.And if it eats your brain? Then it gets all of your secrets and memories, because that's just how tyranids work in 40k (Space marines can do this too btw, but I bet they don't show you titus eating a guardsman to figure out his military schedule)
>>568646128Every comp would just turn into 3 damage dealers and 1 healer
>>568607637I'd go something like this>Razor-Jaw6 bleed isn't really all that strong and it's pretty finnicky>Target NeutralisedDecent but ~10% toughness on elite kill is pretty mediocre when you're already getting 12.5% on any hit + 5% per any kill>Fear of JusticeCould drop it, but I think it's pretty class for stamina management on clutch revives or getting more hits in vs Monsters>Emperors FistNeed(?) it to stagger Crushers out of overheads>Soulguilt ScanWithout stacking Finesse (which Arby can't do), headshot damage modifiers are not really that strong and this is a very low number to begin withI would also>swap Gunner Res for Cooldown Reduction>double check the efficacy of High Voltage on the weapon, see if it actually helps any of your breakpoints or if you're maybe better off with something like Hammerblow to start putting Crushers on their back (could also drop Emperor's Fist in this case for something else)>consider swapping the Bolter for a Arby shotgun - easier to handle, still good at bosses. Bolter is better off paired with a weapon using Skullcrusher to go all in on boss bursting (definitely personal choice on this one though)
>>568646128>The medicae servoskull inject the yellow piss directly into your veins, so you can shoot your yellow piss lasgun all pew pew likeThey're injecting you with GW compliance btw, that's why you're suddenly immune to genestealer claws like a NAMED CHARACTERThe most powerful of all armors in the setting
HadronsToeCleanerHadronsChairUnitHadronsUrinal
>>568633168Shitty aftermarket paintjobs have to be heresy.
>>568647202ToasterRaper
Poor Lohner, he can't even write what he wants in his own diary.
>>568647202Heretek42069
>>568647202KharibsBoyToy
>Mechanicus character>still not going to be able to include numbers in the nameCalling it
>>568646892>>Soulguilt Scan>Without stacking Finesse (which Arby can't do), headshot damage modifiers are not really that strong and this is a very low number to begin withok but its not finesse, its weakspot strength, which is +strength on weakspot hits. it's not like weapspot damage where it only affects the headshot bonus, weakspot strength is strength for the entire hit so this is a multiplicative 16% more damage considering basically everything else is +damage
>>568646257It’s jarring for the reason I just explained, that being Necron weaponry being gimped in this instance, the faith shit isn’t, and I already said it isn’t impossible, just stupidly unlikely. I understand the ability fully well. You’re completely misreading my post and attacking a straw man.
Green lights will be Aquila cosmeticsCalling it nowAlong with the bucket
>>568647571yeah you might be right, take Soulguilt
>>568644942>I'm telling you what their actual stats are, which is what the lore is generally written to reflect with one exception being Space marinesI’m almost certain there are other exceptions to that even if they generally do reflect them. The FFG stuff in particular gives some *very* wonky results for Astartes strength values for examples. >>568646439Xenomorphs don’t hold a candle to Tyranids really they literally do everything they do but better
>>568648263I've never seen anyone make porn of tyranids whereas I've seen multiple depictions of facehuggers doing various things to women, including a particularly good one where she's hooked up to a machine enema and is being used to mass produce alien larvae
I still can't believe the marshal outfit isn't part of the special editionyou just know this will instead be added into the vestures shop on day 1
>>568643197I'm skeptical even if we do get Darktide 2 in a decade or so.
>>568644368>>568644232Best shredder build?Also how’s a rush ogryn?Or while taunt gets memed a lot is it really the best?I like to play twin stubber ogryn for fun though.
>>568648060It's not jarring for the reason I just explained dude, and I haven't "strawmanned" anything. She said a prayer, her faith was strong, so the Emperor interceded on her behalf and the mortal wound she was experiencing was negated and she was miraculously healed. This is how that faction operates, both in lore and on the tabletop that this game is drawing from. None of this is inconsistent, "jarring", or hard to understand. It's not even new, this is how it's always been. And the weapon doesn't matter, they've survived artillery barrages, and they've also jumped up from being fully dead on occasions too. You're being stubborn and autistic for no reason. Look up sob miracles and read more about them. Or don't, I'm trying to help you understand and you're being combative lol.
>>568648645this paintjob is awful
Lads I’m gonna probably be able to get 200 Canadian dollars off of my tf2 weapon skins.Do I waste the steam money on whaling for the barely alive life supported mmo spiral knights or darktide commodore’s vestures?
>>568648849flak maniac with pinning fire + inspiring barrage. if your build gets a lot of value from crits and/or you wanna magdump bosses, like on scriers psyker, then cavalcade + inspiring barrage is good too
>>568649128gift me rouge core
>>568649128Customer is always welcome to play War Thunder.
>>568648645Don't worry you'll get the vanguard set in the commissary
>>568648263>Astartes strength/Toughness values for examples.They're double that of humans for damage/carrying, while maintaing the relatively low numbers for skill checksSince the game isn't really balanced around every skill check being 90% success rateYou generally want to put your players up against appropriate foesA sister of battle would be burning Fate points like crazy when fighting a Genestealer if it ever got into melee for comparisonSame for every character, the Ogryn might be the only one with enough wounds to survive a round or two unaware, especially with a big shield, but it's not going to last very long if the party isn't there to save his ass.Compare that to the tabletop where the difference is S3 T3 for guardsmen/sisters S4 T4 for space marine, same for pretty much every other stat and the space marines have better morale because they have "And they know no fear" which means they're basically immune ot psychology tests. (Sefoni what are you doing to the rejects?)When a genestealer turns your hive scum who burned his last fate point in a firefight into red mist before any of you get to act? Yeah that's when you know you're a human rolling a fear test like a pesky mortal.With the upper tiers of weaponry the rejects can kill one singular Genestealer if they work together, but it'll be on a different level that basically makes melee impossible to survive for anything but hyper specialistsI don't think you're gonna parry a genestealer in Darktide>>568648621>I've never seen anyone make porn of tyranidsPlease remain blissfully ignorant on this subject matter.
>>568649154>>568648849Pretty much what I did too except I did blaze away instead of inspiring barrage
>>568649368>the commissary>mfwArbiter has to go to the Zealot tab to buy skins for his shared weaponsThanks Tencent, I'm glad you're getting along with Games Workshop
>>568649448if you're playing outside of havoc you dont need inspiring barrage but it's a great utility in havoc
>>568648880Once again, you are completely misreading my post. I’m not saying that the Sister doing faith magic shit is jarring. I’m saying anyone walking off with a glowing hand after taking a shot from gauss flayer rifle is when we’ve seen what they can do. Hint: they don’t normally leave people with glowing green hands. “Artillery barrages” don’t even remotely compare. I know how SoBs work. I know what they can do. I also know what Necrons can do. Hell, “jumping up from being dead” would have unironically been more faithful and appropriate, at least then you do both sides a service. You are misrepresenting my argument and my post and trying to claim I’m being “combative” for correcting that.
>>568649808Oh yeah, makes sense. I didn't think it was a havoc-ready weapon at all, but I'm just an auricbab
>>568650116>I didn't think it was a havoc-ready weaponif you're good enough to play off meta in havoc it's a really fun supplement to a primarily melee build, very kino weapon
>>568650259on command suppression, stagger, and full toughness yes sirit goes really well on my h40 brain burst build that actually holds up surprisingly well in havoc
>>568650094>“jumping up from being dead”
>>568649648I mean on the class' release. I'm not saying your getting it later
>>568650420is that the devils claw scriers warp unbound EP flayer + resonance one?
>>568650593>Man how the hell you "jump up from being dead"
He was gay, Rannick?
Its nice having new players but jesus fuck these people need to learn. Had a gunlugger ogryn sit at the medicae on the final event LOOOOOGING and took all 4 charges, healed every time he took chip damage instead of using his melee.
>>568651051Biggest gets biggest share of medicae!
>>568650651Yeah but I doubt it'll be a penance unlockGoing by Arby and Hive scum, the coolest shit got put behind Aquilla's so Tencent can get their % of the profitsIf we're lucky they'll have been allowed to make something more creative for the penance unlocks.That's why they're giving out 500 nowThe helmet is gonna be 900They banking on people cracking and paypigging for 500 more And then they'll have 100 leftover in the walletTaunting themThat's how Tencent operates.
>>568651296for a second I thought this was pig vs 1000 degree knife
>>568648645!00% that helmet will be Aquila only
>>568648880Some people are too autistic to help. You should have stopped the first time he was unnecessarily argumentative. He's wrong that the scene doesn't make sense and you even kindly told him why, the rest is out of your hands. I see this kind of shit here all the time sadly. People are just looking to argue for no reason.
>>568651051>heh, you guys haven't seen nothin' yet>I'm INVINCIBLE with one of these at my back!>I bet they don't even know what these things are>I'm the best user of the god mod boxes!
>>568651569>People are just looking to argue for no reason.Don't tell me you'd honestly rather have waifuposting gooners and insufferable avatarfags who ERP in public
>>568648953>this paintjob is awful
>>568607637>Razor jaw>Keeping protocols>Monstrosity hunter>No bleed on bolter????You either go full retard or don't touch razor jaw. Swedes are fucking retarded and don't know how their game works, so they messed up big time when balancing dog damage. Dog bleed has 200% base damage but only 6 stacks. You wait for dog to apply bleed, then you bump it to 16 stacks with bolter or bolt pistol and extend its duration. If ogryn applies his bleed first your setup is ruined. If you apply your bleed first by shooting a bolter at a boss (which is a normal thing to do) your setup is over. Yes, it sucks, but it's the only reason to ever pick razor jaw, otherwise just ignore it. It was already bad at 6 stacks before the bleed nerf, and now they butchered bleed even more. >crusher bad
>>568634184>>568637261To be fair to that anon and to pour some fuel on his schizophrenia, there actually were strings for sword and knife separately, don't think those were posted before.Based on "6 deluxe weapon skins" I'd say chances are slim, but still - some hope for separate transonic weapons.
>>568648621It's the tentacles
>>568652151soul
>>568652283>Swedes are fucking retardedI couldn't agree moreBut it's not their faultThey just went to school and university like they were supposed to
>>568652603This is correct. Since Skitarii doesn't share human melee weapons they made extra melee weapon out of fear of people complaining and review bombing. There's a sword version, a knife version, a sword and knife version, as well as an unrevealed Omnisian Axe with one mark being like halberd and the other like the billhook from vt2.
>>568653018If they get transed at school then why aren't the better at coding?
>>568650942Consider the ultimate female privledgeThe Emperor is clearly a simp for Sisters of Battle since he keeps bringing them backThat or they are actually all just psykers (aka witches) and therefor massive hypocrites for persecuting psykersFaith powers used to be extremely rare prior to Cadia exploding and the setting getting ripped in half by hell spilling over
Yeyeyeeeeeeyyeeeeahahahh imma finna binna linna binna boutta vomit on the floor BLEREHRHGH
>>568653496*power slides in and catches it in my mouth*
>>568648060>>568650094sobtrannies aren’t known for their reading comprehension and this particular autistic retard shat up this place for close to a month during the lead up to hive scum with never ending text walls, just walk away because xhe’ll spend the rest of the thread arguing about it
>>568653293Coding is hardJust look at jeet spaghetti code and ask any engineer who has had to fix it.
>>568653478We already know they like BT’s because they’re all in on Emprah love so “some of the good ones” is pretty consistent with themFaith powers are still pretty rare altogether now honestly we’re just getting more spotlight on the exceptions these days
>>568641930>But they are perfect power level scaling for genestealeri’d argue what we have now is already perfect, our rejects are clearly capable and like the other guy said we’ll likely just ordinary genestealer cults rather than anything crazy like a patriarch, they presumably need to have parity with admonition so they don’t just run over everything so they can’t get *too* crazy
>Spun us a tale of a damsel in distress, he did, and a gallant battle against the forces of darkness to boot, and kept the details consistent enough that I might almost believe him. Then there was the look of outright puzzlement on his face when Kerillian quizzed him on the damsel’s name. Proper baffled, he was, which as we all know is a telltale of enchantment. I think the only thing that stopped Saltzpyre claiming witchcraft was that he – as this journal will ever attest – absolutely did not spend the return to the keep hugging the cat in a matter most unbecoming of a witch hunter.Okay, what's that about?
What if for Darktide 2Rather than letting players makes their own characterThey pick one personality for each class, based on the most played and most successful in Dark tide 1And choose to carry them on as a vermintide style named character instead? Allowing for better writing that the limitations of self insert "personalities"
I don't think there's going to be a Darktide 2, Mr. Frodo
>>568648880>so the Emperor interceded on her behalfNo, she called on the human portion of the warp, the place Lorgar is desperately trying to shut down
>>568654064Nahhh
>>568654171How else are they going to erase the past and get everyone to fire yellow piss blasts?It's a metaphor for how useful your pistol is against a nurgle plague marine
>This thread is full of spiders
skitussy is going to have a ranged revive blitz and it's going to break the gameniggas gon' be out here runnin' three wounds unironicallyshit gon' b wild yo
>>568654727>and then they all got turned into biomass and consumed
>>568654727This isn't /indie/ or /civ4xg/ though.
>>568654727https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Megarachnid
>>568654727>mfw i have a spanking fetishMe: 1Tyranids: 0
>>568654834No one is safe
>>568654782You mean like the veteran shout which didn't break the game?
>>568655336that's a combat ability on a big cooldown on a class you're not guaranteed to have in every lobbyservo skull is a blitz, every lobby is going to be skitarii soon
>>568654064>every psyker is now the pajeetNo thank you!
>>568655447>every lobby is going to be skitarii soonAnd none of them will run support skull, because yellow piss toughness and reviving is for girlsThey'll run stealth sniper builds and hide 9 million miles behind the frontline, before getting grabbed by a mutant while the skull does nothing to save them, before being pulverized against the floor
>>568655584
>>568655447Vet revive shout can revive 3 players on a sub 30 second cooldown and it still doesn't break the game when it is present
>>568656145that's because vet players all have the souls of niggers and can't use it correctly
>>568656145>sub 30 second cooldown
>>568655250I assumed genestealers would quickly get krumped by orks, since orks don't have a reproductive cycle.
>>568655840The skits get 4 branches. I'm sure 1 of them makes you tanky enough to survive a mutant grab
>>568656272Assuming you are benefiting from the numerous cooldown reduction sources in the game
>>568656283>since orks don't have a reproductive cycle.That's actually not the issue, Tyranids already stole ork genes to create BiovoresNo the issue is that the Orkz collective WAAAGH energy doesn't vibe with the Genestealer cults psychich networkSo they usually get found out and krumped for not being "propa orky"Tau just give their citizens proper healthcare, so they get discovered during screenings (Also they tend to sterilize humans who join them)
>>568656292>I'm sure 1 of them makes you tanky enough to survive a mutant grabAnd it'll probably be the melee variant for those transonic swords and arc maul
>>568656475>>568656283> So they usually get found out and krumped for not being "propa orky"This is also why Chaos Orks tend to be found and dealt with pretty much immediately. The Orks might be simple, but it’s that simplicity that’s so effective against subterfuge and other tricks that everyone else employs. At the same time, it can also be turned against them too.
>>568656475>So they usually get found out and krumped for not being "propa orky"I mean, same with humans, orks aren't special.
>>568656475Even Tau aren’t immune though, it’s implied there’s some Ethereals who’ve been infected and are still in hiding, but the Tau are so desperate to understand them that they even allowed Inquisitors to infect a whole world with them so they can further study them, so at the very least they recognize the threat and are proactive about it.
>>568657149>they even allowed Inquisitors to infect a whole world with them so they can further study themB-But reddit told me that the taus are... le good guys!!!
>>568656853Yeah but the main difference is that the Genestealer cults are surprisingly good at blending in with imperial society.It is unfortunately a common occurrence that the Inquisition merely stumbles upon them by accident while purging a chaos cult, since they both tend to chill in the under-hive and forgotten placesBut appropriately for Skitarii, they also tend to get to work in mines, since they're very industrious and productiveTheir alien biology makes them insanely resistant, and unlike the average human who dies and gets discarded by like 50? Genestealer cultists can live a lot longer, assuming they don't get killed by accident or violenceAfter all Grendyl is "just" and Ordo HereticusUsually when you trip over genestealer you GTFO and call forthe Ordo Xenos to come and do unspeakable things to them with hellfire bolt shellsBecause you can bet the Mechanicus give their best shit to the space marines dedicated to protecting their manufacturies from aliensA chaos cult is just a domestic problemGenestealers are grounds for exterminatus if the space marines can't save the day.
>>568657334I dunno, this feels like "ok so these aliens are good at infiltrating societies! Well, except my orks, because they're special, or necrons, or Chaos, or... actually they're not that good at infiltrating societies".
>>568657456They're good at infiltrating humansBecause they're 40k xenomorphs mixed with a few other horror tropesIt's not that deep
>>568657965Funny that Tyranids gave up on trying to infiltrate orks despite being at war with Octavius's Overfiend for decades now.I guess fucking humans is more important.
>>568654064I'd hate it. I'd be okay with them scrapping personalities all together and giving us different, named characters again like VT though.
>>568658204It's not a question of importance, but of efficacy
>>568658601I get it's some in-universe bias since we see most things from the perspective of the Imperium, but it really annoys me that everything in Warhammer 400000 feels tailored to fuck the Imperium the most. You never hear about what what dark eldars weapons do to Tyranids or if they can even drink tyranid pain, it's always imperial citizens. You never hear about orks stealing Chaos or Eldars equipement, it's always imperial material. You never hear about eldar warcrimes on Chaos citizens or cultists, it's always imperial citizens.The entire galaxy punches down the imperium, but if I cheer for them, then I'm racist and nazi and fascist and Onision but worse.
>>568658204>gave upThey just ate them instead since they were already thereThe whole point of genestealer cults is to weaken a worlds defenses so the approaching hive fleet can devour it more easilyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyxyQ0tixFkDon't really get time to start a multi-generational cult with fungi
>>568657334>After all Grendyl is "just" and Ordo Hereticusis this actually confirmed? i don’t remember it being stated what ordo he belongs to. he’s just the only inquisitor around so he’s taken it upon himself to deal with this.>>568657456>>568658830it’s natural consequence of humans being the protagonists of the setting and also extremely numerous. it’s just more horrific and daunting if we’re the ones being subjected to gene stealing alien cults and psychic torture vampire elves.
>>568658830>if they can even drink tyranid painThey like to toss them in the Arena and make them fight slaves, saves them the trouble of getting one of their fucked up Homunculi stitching together another abomination for their pain orgies.But there's probably a genestealer cult somewhere in the webway because one arrogant Eldar tried to use them to take out a rivalAfter all they love backstabbing each other in ways that can't be directly pinned on themArchon politics and all thatOr they give you a black hole in a box if they're VectKinda same problem with Eldar, the whole aspect warrior + very long lived.Good fucking luck hiding your multi-generational cult amongst them.They just ate the craftworld wholesale instead, which is why one of them is largely made up of wrath guards, because they all got fucking nommed by the nids and their souls then got shoved in warp robots to keep fighting.>Idiot honorable warrior Avatar of Khaine challenges the Swarmlord to an epic 1v1>Gets drowned in Carnifexes and dies without impactmany such casesThere is a reason some of them willing to torch a 100 human planets, if it means saving one craftworld
>>568660152>is this actually confirmed?Zola bitches about it to Melk when he interrupts her missionAlso Ordo Heretic is the lowest tier of the InquisitionThey get Sisters of BattleThe Ordo Xeno get Death watch Space MarinesAnd the Ordo Malleus get Grey Knights and the entire planet needs to be sterilzed and mind wiped afterwardsBasically the more help shows up, the more fucked Atoma is
>Surely my hobo with a pistol and a rusty shiv can stop this!
>>568657265Probably not even the worst they’ve gotten up to at this point too kek.>>568660274>But there's probably a genestealer cult somewhere in the webway because one arrogant Eldar tried to use them to take out a rival>After all they love backstabbing each other in ways that can't be directly pinned on themWe know for a fact there is, but it wasn’t because of that, it’s because some Drukhari started grafting Tyranid limbs and body parts to themselves as a fashion statement and it’s hinted that they’re now being affected the Hive Mind’s influence basically.
>Beautiful elven tourist destination gets swallowed up be ravenous space locusts
>>568650749yeah, its very fun
>>568660978>now being affected the Hive Mind’s influence basically.The Delves are so lucky that they live in the webway and the hiveships have basically no way of getting to themThose cultists are going to be waiting a long time in elf pirate hellThe craftworlders on the other hand...
>>568660491atoma is already in ordo malleus threat range with the daemonhosts and lesser daemons
Just finished my first ever Damnation difficulty mission. It was tough but we did it. It was the train one too which is a hard mission for my first time. I think zealot is my favorite class, I use it with the keystone that heals corruption and the assault chainsword mostly.
>>568661258I just unlocked aurics with a zealot that's a cool coincidence. I can play way more aggressively with zealots than vets they're really fun
>>568661239Let's hope no one tells the ordo MalleusIt didn't end well for any human characters on ArmageddonAnd they ended up fighting the space wolves over how absolutely shit they treated the planetary population and the Imperial guard who fought and died there against AngronBecause knowing that Daemon primarchs exist is just completely heretical and forbiddenI mean this is the universe where Adeptus Arbites routinely show up to your hab block and kill you for witnessing a psyker cast a power, intentionally or not.Ignorance is strengthAm very strong
>>56866149125 days until I press for the death penalty because somebody got a court date for a speeding ticket the same day skitarii releases
>>568660274>But there's probably a genestealer cult somewhere in the webway because one arrogant Eldar tried to use them to take out a rivalapparently some DE stitch some tyranid parts to themselves
>>568661637>that time Draigo thought he could threaten the fucking Dark Angel chapter
>>568661258>the assault chainswordNot making it easy on yourself. Doubly so if you didn't use the Shred blessing
>>568662089You know you can get out of jury duty by saying the right/wrong things, right?
>>568661258>>568661592Based Zealot enjoyers. When you've both played enough to have gotten good at taking little damage during runs, check out melee Scum. It's all gas, even faster than Zealot with way more damage but a lot less safe.
So if I have a rating 500 weapon, but my mastery only allows me to have up to rating 100 items, what happens? The game is letting me use it, but I'm wondering if some aspects of it are turned off so to speak until I unlock them.Some of the stuff like cleave, brittle, the difference between weak spot vs crit, what counts as a consecutive hit, and a few other nomenclature or arbitrary mechanical things are still unclear. Is there an in game thesaurus, or a reliable wiki people use? For general new player questions?
>Try to save shitter who went down>he is in the fucking monster closet of crushers and maulers>Start punching and cutting>He bleeds out before I'm done fighting>Just how shit is my Heresy teams DPS?>Oh fuck my other team member died>All I'm left with is a bot>Nothing but tight halls>Charge through to clear the path to run for rescure>Fucking trapper around the corner that spawned five minutes ago to kill the first shitter stealth veteran without scavenger>Catches me just as I round the corner punching a mutie in the faceOgryn why must you be so peakAnd so obese at the same time?
>>568654064I don't think there will ever be Darktide 2.
>>568663954The mastery level just means you're capped on the perks/blessings you can put into the weapon, meaning you're stuck with what the weapon was rolled with until you pump more mastery points and can start picking what stuff you want on it
>>568663954>what happens?You just get to use your level 500 weaponLeveling the first character always sucks the most
>>568653257>as well as an unrevealed Omnisian Axe with one mark being like halberd and the other like the billhook from vt2.Fatshark doesn't do surprises. What you see is what you get.Also Fatshark said skitarii will come with only 6 new weapons, while DLC deluxe edition image shows 7 in total.The trans knife and sword are part of the same set.
>>568652603Those are labeled as separate because the weapon uses 2 different weapon models for it.
>>568653257>Omnisian Axe>He thinks he'll get the Engineseers signature weapon as a no-name retrofitted Skitarii because that's the best they could throw at the problem
How the hell does toughness work brosI'll have 75% of my bar and take a bunch of health damage anyway and then the next guy to hit me only does toughness damage don't get it
>>568665760Average Psyker experienceToughness is more of a suggestion if you don't have gold piss
>>568665760ranged attacks are absorbed by toughnessmelee attack have a bleedthrough depending on the remaining toughness meaning if you have 99% toughness you'll get some HP chip dmg
Why does darktide do such a shit job explaining it's systems?
>>568665963it's built upon a pre-existing tide gameswedish wording is strange afthey probably count on autists on forums such as this one to explain to the newcomers
>>568665963sweden
>>568665963The joy of discovery
>>568665963It was made by dumb people for smart people
>>568666167The unfortunate truth is that this is the way you get the best games.
>>568665704That's really cool
>>568665760toughness reduces melee damage take equal to the percentage of the current value out of the total value when struck. damage taken is a flat value, not a percentage of your toughness, restoration of your toughness is usually a percentage of your total value unless other stated.
>>568665963Like what? There's a tutorial literally explaining how all of its mechanics work
>>568665704Ever since the larp replica relic blades, I don't even think it's that far fetched.Getting fartshart to get off their asses to make new weapon archetypes is, however.
>>568666517the same tutorial that says that damage hits toughness first, then health? with nothing mentioning melee bleedthrough?
>>568666517It says that toughness blocks damage and gives you a range example, but doesn't mention that it only 100% blocks ranged and it's more of a sliding bar of damage resistance to melee. Or whatever the fuck a perfect block is, not that I care it's a worthless mechanic.
>>568666776speaking of perfect block it always pains me to avoid the two talents related to that on Arbites
I dont think fatshark can top cogboi class release in terms of hype. Like every other fitting new class would feel worse. Space marine never ever same as Sisters, too high of a powerlevel. Dont know where they could go from here.
>>568666951Darktide 2, with the power levels bumped up enough that a Sister and Space Marine initiate are possible.
>>568666951>I dont think fatshark can top cogboi class release in terms of hype.Very true. Now wouldn't it be absolutely hysterical if they monumentally fucked up the launch by nearly bricking the game, having several abilities that cause server crashes, all while they incidentally happen to be on vacation for over a month while half the class isn't working? :^)
>>568666951Same scale but it's rogue traders that can theoretically go anywhere. More character/class diversity, more level variety (entirely different worlds?). Mite b cool
>>568666951ratlings, kroot, votann
>>568664064I love how they drew the ogre face>>568665963Likely a language barrier issue honestly>>568667115Inquisitors can go way higher than Rogue Traders, we just got a very limited set up
>>568666951A xenos weapons specialist maybe?
>>568667351I was more thinking in terms of being limited to one world/one enemy to fight and rogue traders seemed like an easy way to get more gameplay diversity out of it. I'm a filthy secondary with surface level knowledge about 40k though
By the end of the campaign our characters have pretty much done as much if not more than a Space Marine Initiate to be honest.
>>568667713Even making it to the end of the campaign without being corrupted is impressive.
>>568667713Sedition is the canon difficulty
>>568667713I skipped the story
>>568667713That lasts years or decades for Marines though doesn't it
>>568666951>Sure I'll krump some spikey gitz and some purple gitz>But I wantz a snazzy hat after da skrap!The commodore will salvage this mess of a mission, not like she listens to the Inquisition anyway>tfw a 60 million year old bioweapon fungus outperforms the entire team because he wuz built for fighting
>>568668641>That lasts yearsDepends on the chapterBlack templars give their "scouts" and "initiates" power armor to circumvent the 1k space marine limit imposed on most chapters>Laughs in space wolf>What are you going to do? Arrest a founding chapter?>Get bent Grey knights
>>568668641Correct. The average Battle Brother is probably at least a century old, with pretty much all of that time since childhood spent training and serving the chapter, averaging 10 hours of battle practice a day (not including firing and weapons practice) every day. To make it even worse, the "average" Space Marine is a tactical marine who by default has spent decades as a scout, devastator and assault marine before he finally becomes a tactical marine. By the time they eventually get killed your ‘average’ space marine will probably have been hundreds of years old. So they probably have us beat out even then.
>>568666951>Like every other fitting new class would feel worse.One of these fucks nearly killed Horus
>>568669087the drugged up melee spastic is the scum
>>568669087>>568669324A single shiv scum with rampage and a damage stimm active could have taken out Horus
>>568644368Shredder is my 2nd most favorite gun on vet. But swiggers are pederasts so it's expected all fun weapons don't have either ammo or damage or both.
>>568669971shill me this weapon, the recoil fiters me
>>568670007use it on Scum and take the no recoil talent. This solves the recoil issue and you'll have infinity ammo
>>568670007"What if we made a really fun horde clearer but never gave you enough ammo for it"
>>568670070thank you Hitler
>>568670235you're welcome my child
>>568670070>the no recoil talent.The what now? You mean sticky hands or whatever in the top part of the tree?
>>568670007It's a close(mid) range weapon with by far the most dakka in game that deletes everything in front of you while staggering the everloving shit out of them. It's not THAT bad at mid range, you can even kill priority targets at long range if you really want to, especially as vet. Imo it has enough damage to carapace, not broken-tier but almost enough. But the ammo is a misery. Even if you're not doing dumb shit like shooting long range and carapace targets.TSD.
>>568670385yes. More for the -spread, really. It makes a big difference. Also slap blaze away blessing on the weapon
>>568670070>>568670438for the blessing it's the usual dumdum blaze away?
>>568670438Also it's very fun to chew on the combat stim and stagger the demonhost into submission.
>>568670513i don't think it has dumdum. Usually people go with pinning fire instead.
>>568669324>is the scumMore like the ultimate Career path of the scumThose Eversors are hooked up on so many combat drugs that their lifespan is shortened to a few months on top of being cybernetics and genetically enhanced. Remaining in stasis in between missions because they're basically a ticking clock for when their body finally gives outOh and they explode in toxins when they dieTaking out chaos space marines is pretty normal business for them
>>568670678Eversors are such retarded grimderp that it loops back around to being kino
>The next class after Skitarii is on this ancient scroll of lost knowledge
>>568670513>expecting swiggers to give close range blessing to close range weaponCute.There's no dumdum, but there's pinning fire, it's good.And cavalcade, which I assume is better for bosses and crushers, but that shouldn't be your focus.
>>568670796>psycher
>>568670796>next class is a naked oiled up custodes
>>568670971I'd kill to be raised by Kars
Damnation players are next level dogshit bro what the fuck is this
>>568671438They're the ones who couldn't make it to Auric.
>>568671438And you are on damnation.
>>568671438It's the highest "normal" difficulty and their ego doesn't allow them to go lower
>>568670796An Eldar Corsair or Votann(squat) wouldn't be terrible calls for hitting the right kind of powerlevel, still being sub-power armour tier while still being different enough from the current roster. They'd also be able to get some hype for being a xenos pick.A Kroot would be cooler.
>>568670746Probably because it ties into the fantasy of a mad scientist just being allowed to do whatever. The fact that one canonically reenacted the Mereum v. Netero fight (including the pocket nuke) is awesome.
>>568670678I think he knows he’s just shitposting>>568670746Nah, that would be something like Arcoflagellants, Eversors are just kino
>>568671972kroot would be wasted in this game with how they’re smart enough to avoid eating Chaos shit and thus deprive us of the coolest thing about them. also they’re more or less space marine level. votann themselves are probably too much the more I found out about them but they would be cool.
>>568671438You are going to see some wild shit when you progress to Auric, and that is nothing compared to the dreaded Havoc 20 trench.
>>568670746>everything I don't like is grimderpWhy do you even care about 40k then?
>>568672724>reading comprehensionI like them even though they're grimderpYou can't tell me they aren't grimderp.
>>568667713The story missions are the only things that are canon to the story and they literally Malice tier in difficulty even at "auric" difficulty.Also I played those on auric and there were basically 0 monstrosity spawns or even daemonhosts.So aka, canonically the Rejects never fight Chaos Spawns, Plague Ogryns, Beasts of Nurgle or Daemonhosts. Only bosses we fight are the Assassination mission captains, who might be above avarage height but still regular humans.
>>568671972they said they wont do new skeletons, so no kin/halflings or xenos, maybe an eldar would kinda work
>>568672724>He doesn't use the term grimderp endearinglyCadian pisslord detectedAngron did nothing wrong
>>568666691>Ever since the larp replica relic bladesThey are not relic blades, it's just fatshark being retarded and using the wrong fucking name because they are swedish retards.
>>568673149Hence, larp replica relic blades.
>>568672332>event>auric is full of h40 sweatlords who run through the map in 15 minutes while destroying every heretic shrinet-thanks, fatshark...
>>568673206Call them power greatswords instead.Yes, I am autistic, fuck off.
>>568673451It was necessary to drive home the point about larp replica omnissian axes being plausible.
>>568672329>kroot >more or less space marine levelNo clue what gave you that idea. They're skitarii level at absolute best. Tabletop rules have had them as a chaff horde unit for a decade.Fair point about the feeding though. Could address it in talents, different builds representing different adaptions, but still a lot less cool that eating dudes during a mission.
>>568673259Keep up cutie
>>568673575It wouldn't be because skitarii don't use axes of any form.Also we already know what weapons we are getting, and we are only getting 6 weapons as they said in the dev blod. Said weapons which we can see in the deluxe edition image.
>>568673259speed event
>Decide to take my plasma doctor build for a pin in Heresy mode>mfw three retard vets on a train mission>ooh boy>We beat it no deaths and I shouted the one down back to his feat immediatelyJust plasma cleave everything to victory I guess>A single plasma pistol shot from a Commissar took down a Carnifex (The same type of bug that nearly killed Titus in the start of space marine 2)>Said Carnifex later returned as Old One eye with hyper regeneration after getting its brain cookedI don't get why people think Vet has no place next to SoBShitty chaff imperial guard have no place, but we're playing a veteran with a Plasma gun and obvious a medkit in his backpack
>>568674179>Just plasma cleave everything to victory I guessIt also helps that rolling steel is a narrow linear map. Helps line up the enemy for big blasts
>>568673575>replica omnissian axeSounds like tek heresy to me.Its tech adepts and up, a holy icon on top.Why the fuck would a skittle desecrate that?Ignorant asspull level bullshit, Anon.
>>568673807I run my fastest builds in it now
Does the event cover every level or only a pool? Rolling steel event map sounds kinda funny
>>568674627Hell yeah brother
>>568671972>An Eldar CorsairIt clearly said Dark elf Space trooperSo Wyches confirmed aka mass produced and cloned Dark elf Scum for even more drugs and melee>Doesn't even get a toughness bar, because their dodge window is so generous that any hit deserves to be directly to your health>regains health by torturing the shit out of specials
>search for havoc party>empty>list my own>nobody joinsGame dead?Mode dead?
>>568650593Realistically, will we ever get a Sister of Battle?
>>568676212it would sell very well, so yes
>>568676212If I were them I'd hold it back for Darktide 2 and bump the power level up to match
why isn't rogue core discussed here
>>568676628It sucks
>>568676182>late in the weekEverybody's finished their assignments, try again on sunday after reset.
>>568676212When genestealer / Nurgle marines release as new bosses we'll get sisters with heavy bolters and heavy flamers
>>568676771>adding a new heavy weapon specialist instead of giving new weapons to OgrynYeah that sounds about right
>>568676212You'll know if you can figure out next years Skulls theme
ffs
>>568663304Americans put a whole jury just for a speeding ticket?
>>568677295Would be x10 funnier if one of them had names swapped.
>>568677295
>>568676698please play rogue core
>>568676887Ogryn is ugly and stupidSisters of battle are sexy magical girls with divine powers and giant gunsAlso they'll sell like hotcakes, and just like the Zealot all the best stuff with be premium, with different color variants as the penance unlocksAlso they would be the only class with the ability to equip a jumpjet, which honestly excites me way more than a heavy weapons specialist.
>>568677795I got melkbucks to farm before the skitt comes out seriously though I want to like it but it needs some work as it is now
>>568677894Brother, Ogryn couldn't vault ledges right until just recently, you really think Fatshark is going to be able to figure out programming a jump jet?
>>568677295At least it's not Dredd or some Lex punI saw one where it was kerillian as arby and Saltspyre as dog
>>568677894
>>568678005>you really think Fatshark is going to be able to figure out programming a jump jet?Considering it's just turning gravity on and off to varying degrees, yeah I do even Fatshark can't fuck that up.The question is whether or not they'll make it feel half as satisfying as playing assault marine in either of the space marine games (Which I highly doubt)Because I don't think the Adeptus Sororitas will be ground slamming with a thunder hammer,It'll more be either flying down and slashing with your sword, or flying up high and hovering as sniper bait while you shoot stuff, far removed from the genestealer on the ground currently eating the OgrynAnd obviously you're shit out of luck on any map with a cramped ceilingIn effect it would just end up being personal melee immunity for shooty builds, that then resort to melee when they have to land, since they're supposed to be jumping and not actually flying.With the added benefit that easily distracted pilots end up dropping into a bottomless pit
>SoBfag is backNormally I'm happy to see paragraph-length discussionposting but not this fucking dweeb
>>568677295I didn't even know you could rename the mastiff.
>>568676212It's genuinely a 50/50 split between yes and no. Meaning it can go either way.Reason why it might not happen are;>what is happening on Atoma is below sister's "pay grade">if sisters arrive there's gonna possibly be same problem as with space marines, once they are done there is no Tertium left to be saved/revuilt, so if sisters arrive the entire game and story are over>seeing what devs have made there's like 100% chance they'll turn sororitas into melee class like zealot/arbites, so is this interesting reason to make it? Especially when there is already a religious fanatic class that gets access to bolters, flamers, relic blades, eviscerators and chainswords?Reason why it might happen are;>it will net Fatshark F U C K L O A D S of money in terms of DLC sales, which is a very good reason>it'd be a very low effort class to do, since again, it would definetly just be a zealot reskin largely
>>568677894>Also they would be the only class with the ability to equip a jumpjetWhich you will not get because none of the fucking maps in this game are designed with mobility like that in mind.And no. Fatshark is NOT going to go back and rework every single fucking map just so you can't exploit the fuck out of them with a jump pack.The swedes hate work more than you think.
>>568678954you think there's only 1 sobfag? that's cute.
>>568678954I'll take this over the shitposting we've had the last couple of days to be honest. He just comes off a really dedicated SoB fan with slight autism.
How do I make a good thunder hammer build?
>>568677295>Have a shirt that think is cool>See some utter subhuman wear same shirt>Never wear that shirt again What causes this?
>>568679268>He just comes off a really dedicated SoB fan with slight autism.No he's autistic on par with the rippertard.
>the ripperobsessed is backwe're getting the band together boys
Any rot news?
>>568679827No.
>>568679827THE ROT SETS IN
>>568679334Even fully optimized it's hard to call Thunder Hammer good, especially with the reduction in Crushers recently but as a dedicated Thammer enjoyer this is what I runYou can replace FotF for Stealth for boss oneshot memes, just replace the two bottom right nodes for the two backstab damage ones, and Unfaltering for the extra Shroudfield modifier
>>568680178NTA, how do you get the picture of the full talent tree like this?
>>568679035>F U C K L O A D S of money in terms of DLC salesYeah, that's the problem right here. You can't milk sororitas without a gazillion of DLC, because the potential is absolutely crazy. But there's a thing that really gets in the way, in this thing is two existing DLC classes that got approximately ZERO cosmetic DLCs. You can't just be like "oh yeah, these losers won't get any outfits, but this new shiny thing will get all the cookies in the world, please boughtenbuy". Sure fatshart fans have negative standards and negative pattern recognition, but I still believe there's a limit in how much you can bend over your palyerbase.
>>568679827Another Krieg rotation next week, please enjoy.
>>568680258https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editorAlternatively there's a mod somewhere that scrunches your talent tree down ingame to make it all fit
>>568679035>the entire game and story are overYou're forgetting that Sisters of Battle get BTFO all the time against every single faction- Including space orks and tyranids and basically every faction that wants to do nasty shit to youLike the NecronsThe reason I bring up Dark Heresy, is that I know SoB where in both that and the later 40k RPG where you could also play a space marine and humans in the same systems, with rules to cross over. It's the fitting escalation to purge the rampant mutant and chaos spawn over population.Having a small group of elite power armored psychotic hypno indoctrinated child-orphan-soldier-nuns in power armor isn't going to necessarily tip the balance too much in Grendyls favor. Because you can't have the holy nuns dying right in front of the Imperial guard, that would be embarrassingHence why they're only really appropriate as the first "start at level 30" no leveling class, to launch with the second hive. Which is filled with genestealer cults, allowing you to jump straight into the content with a baby easy power armor mode.Until a fucking genestealer insta-gibs you on the ground because power armor is paper to rending claws and they don't get to wear a helmet, so crusher overheads will still one-hit them.You can make it fun, the heavy weapon specialist doesn't get a melee weapon beyond a kick, which really, really isn't what you want to rely on when a Mauler start overheading you and you're just shoving at them with your giant useless heavy weapon.She doesn't have Ogryn strength in melee, it is just that one of the special things about their power armors, is that they can lock into place and brace themselves to fire heavy weapons, and one hand bolters. It's a lot of recoil compensation.She's still getting grabbed and slammed into the ground by the mutantA sniper is still head shotting herAll disablers workYou know shitter protection from bullets and fire
>>568680298They could just go back and release skins for the previous DLC classes at the same time. Do that once or twice and then go back to lazy mode because the blow has been softened when the next release is just for the sisters
>>568680178What's your main combo, heavy into push? Why would you want to go FoTF instead of stealth? I'll give this a try in damnation first before going up to maelstrom.
>>568674179Plasma gun is stupidly overpowered in rolling steel because the entire map is a one long tube packed with choke points, it trivializes aurics, and heresy is a joke>I don't get why people think Vet has no place next to SoBpeople somehow think rejects who killl hundreds of scabs per mission are weak because they start as prisoners, meanwhile lore-wise we play as helldivers who extract every single time
>>568680479>They could just go back and release skins for the previous DLC classes at the same timeDo I need to bring you a fucking map or what? A calendar maybe? They work on Darktide like 30 days a year, at best, what fucking DLC for the old classes, they could've done this any time if they could because that would be guaranteed profit, they can't, physically incapable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op7M4j1LGeEI'm telling you, they intentionally made three archetypesBolter Bitch LeaderHeavy Bolter BitchLas Pistol Bolter Bitch
>>568681017Zealots already bring faith powersWhat will Sisters do to one-up them
>>568681017love the mossa style ork
>>568681017look at me. im the sister now
>>568681527They will be Arbites with swordsToo bad Arbites already have swords because retarded swedes couldn't give them chainaxe instead
>>568681527sob will have fire and boltgun talents
No but for real, Sisters would sell like shit because a lot of people don't like being forced to play females, and among the ones that don't mind many aren't excited by the prospect of a desexualized sister of battle
>>568681527Consider the followingHeavy Bolterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndboXMvS4oIt's the only way we're getting itAnd that would mean being the first class with NO melee weapon, but only push and running away really fast in bullet proof power armor.(But evidently not Melee proof)
>>568682673>It's the only way we're getting itOgryn can get it.In the Dark Heresy cRPG game made by Owlcat, the ogryn companion can get a heavy bolter as a weapon for himself.Also there's this art piece from the game, that gun is literally just the Gorgonum twinlinked stubber from Darktide.Ogryn is gonna get the heavy bolter, nobody else.
>>568680393>You're forgetting that Sisters of Battle get BTFO all the time against every single factionEvery faction gets BTFO constantly this is a nothingburger statement. Even fucking space marines get BTFO if GW deems it necessary.The whole 10th edition tabletop trailer is just space marines getting massacred by the tyranids.
I wonder why they made PBB the way that it is. The ability should have just been bardin's minigun active from vt2, replacing the minigun with the stubbers. Looging feels so retarded and inefficient.
>>568682936Ogryn will never get anything else again
>>568680178You can shave off couple of points by getting rid of the 15% elite damage, 25% DR on dodge and then taking off the revive perk. You can reinvest those perks into scourge + 40% DR on crit.In aurics you don't need those.
>>568683251just blasted my way through a maelstrom with pbb. Didn't even use the ammo crate. Being locked into 1 weapon for the ability sounds objectively worse. Not sure why you'd want that.
>>568682936No base class is ever going to get a new weapon if they could make the same new weapon and toss it on a DLC class to effectively sell it
>>568682936Well I don't see why they couldn't both get heavy bolter? They'd still be very different classes, and Sisters of Battle would also have the option for a Heavy FlamerOgryn would need a weapons update to fight Genestealers, considering how Melee focused he is.He definitely wouldn't get the auto-aim assist and bullshit night vision and auto senses that Their Power Armor shares with Space marines.Like they get to play with Mods on, without actually installing Mods.Meanwhile the Ogryn is getting eaten in the Dark because he's trying to beat a Genestealer to death with his Heavy Bolter.Are you sure you wanna give up your melee option? Sure Ogryn could probably bash as the special.It suffers from the same ammunition problems as the bolter.
>>568680298>You can't just be like "oh yeah, these losers won't get any outfits, but this new shiny thing will get all the cookies in the world, please boughtenbuy"It's more likely that Fatshark just won't make cosmetics for Sisters either, they get the 1 deluxe set and 1 premium shop set, and that it is.They would just get the exact same treatment as arbites, scum and skitarii.
>>568683678>Well I don't see why they couldn't both get heavy bolter?same reason zealot couldn't get crowbar
>>568683407One, Stubber stats are built entirely around PBB to bring it to a threshold that isn't gay and piss, with an active ability weapon being significantly stronger than the stubbers we have now.Two. being able to bring two ranged weapons sounds way more fun, but also much stronger for a ranged tree theme rather a steroid.
>>568683407fun beats effectivity, every timeI'd love to play goonlooger with a minigun built in
>>568683492Then why did we get the power falchion after Arbites?
I just wish it didn't put a red tint over the screen for its duration, like maybe I want my vision clear when I'm shooting a gun?
>>568683924i think having more options for looging is more fun than only 1 option for looging, but that's just me
>>568683727That would be extremely retarded to not dlc-milk sisters, EVEN by Fatshart standards. Why even bother with a new class at all in the first place? Might as well bring virtually anything else, would be much easier to design than "how do make it not 1:1 zealot copy". You can't name a single class they can bring into Darktide that would generate more revenue from half-assed cosmetics than sex sisters.
>>568683757Damn, martyrdom and fotf with a crowbar would be a better crackhead experience than actual scum
>>568683975Cause nobody gives a shit about a power falchion and it suits no other class in particular, and they already promised it before arbites
>>568683678>ogryn can't melee if he has a heavy bolter equipped>the same gorilla man that can pull a fucking imperial guard chimera, that weighs 37 000kgs, out of a ditch and drag it for 200 meters while under enemy fire>but he can't equip a melee weapon because he is "too weak" and has a slightly bigger boltgunThis whole fucking idea is fucking retarded and terrible.
>>568684026huh? It would free up your ranged slot choice, right now you're objectively retarded if you pick PBB with anything but twin stubber or rippergun, MAYBE rumbler now that the burn worksif you rolled some of his power into passives instead, then made PBB into *whips out minigun* it would turn it from 2-3 options into "you can use any ranged weapon you want"
>>568684193If nobody cared about the falchion, why make it at all?>>568684075Doesn't matter how retarded you think it is, that exactly how it WILL be.They will get the exact same treatment as the rest of the DLC classes. Aka you get nothing. Simple as that.
>>568684432>If nobody cared about the falchion, why make it at all?they already promised a veteran weapon and it was the lowest effort option. Read nigger.
>>568684504>and it was the lowest effort optionThe lowest effort option would've been to just make an LMG and just copy the braced autogun stats on it.Wouldn't even need to use a new mechanic either.
>>568684193>>568684504But I like falchion. It's a good trash cleaner for ~5 seconds, which is exactly how much time veteran should be spending not shooting his gun.
>>568684716>But I like [something]that's illegal
>>568683727>They would just get the exact same treatment as arbites, scum and skitarii.Doomerkun has already given up on skitarii before it even released.Grim
>>568684663No lol that would've required a whole suite of new sounds, new animations, entirely new mechanics maybe even to make the LMG different. Why expend that design and production effort on a free weapon when you can later make a stormtrooper class that has one and you can sell it? Meanwhile the power falchion was just>steal relic blade mechanic and sounds>steal power sword swings, mix with some catachan swings>make a model for it done
>>568684787Good luck catching me, I'm in the deepest trenches of Atoma.
oh god
>>568684865>No lol that would've required a whole suite of new sounds, new animations, entirely new mechanicNot at all.Just use braced auto sounds, you can just make the LMG magazine fed, no need for new animations.Also it doesn't need a new mechanic. Just add a flashlight onto the gun like they did with ogryn stubber.Or just keep the weapon special as a bash, easy.You're not thinking lazily enough.LMG would just be>steal braced autogun sounds and mechanic>don't need to make swing animations because it is a gun, make the gun magazine fed >make a model for itDone
>>568684275I'm actually pretty sure that a Ogryn wailing a genestealer over the head repeatedly with a heavy bolter would be quite fatal to the creature.Or a crusherOr most things reallyMaybe the gimmick is that the bolter is actually a pretty good melee weapon in the hands of an Ogryn. But it fucking breaks the more he uses it as a blunt instrument against armorThat or it'll just have utterly atrocious ammo economy on Ogryn compared to Sister of BattleConsidering she's giving up her melee entirely to use it, she'll need to be basically self sustaining with bolt shells to be bearable to play in any way or shape.
>>568686171Still a retarded and terrible idea.Just give me the heavy bolter and let me equip whatever the fuck melee weapon I want to.>b-but that could be too OPI don't care. Your idea is shit.
Make new
>>568686264Unfortunately the main argument for not giving it to Ogryn is just that the 40k setting is quite awful.You see using a bolter is seen as high prestige, because it's the same weapons that the space marines use (And amusingly in the RPGs they're much shittier, but not the heavy bolters. Since those are shared vehicle weapons.)The other problem is handles and trigger finger sizes.Again Bolters are largely a prestige thing, to show connection to the Imperium. It's an obscenely expensive weapon to actually fire.Consider how some of the Ogryn personalities handle those stubers...Are you sure Rannick would clear them for HEAVY BOLTERS?I'm pretty sure they'd allocate all of those resources to the much more responsible Sisters of Battle.to sell yet more games workshop product in video game space.
>>568687904>You see using a bolter is seen as high prestigeYes, that's why a penal legion faggots get access to those.And the ogryn companion in the Dark Heresy game also gets a bolter.Stop being retarded. This is the reason why people hate sisterfags, you're morons and come up with the stupidest fucking ideas and then try to make them make sense by pushing a square peg into a round hole by force.
need a sister to push a peg into my round hole by force, on god
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>>568688216Alright gameplay reason then, but that would probably be part of the lore justificationA SoB gives up their entire melee kit for a terrible push and kick to wield the heavy bolter.So to balance it out the Ogryn would have to have Rumbler tier ammo economyBecause Heavy Bolter shells are built different, it would have a similar effect but with bolter accuracy
>>568677295ruh-roh
