Take the Red Rocket pill edition>Update 13.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0>Hotfix 13.1 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/400-hotfix-13-1-patch-notes>April Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/p9UAyjJ.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>568456494
Marksman Bolt Carbine headshot version has the highest DPS of all of Tactical's weapons. Averaging 160 when maxed out on headshot damage and all of his class-specific ranged buffs. Requires a pussy destroying index finger.Stalker and accuracy Bolt Rifle average 140, with the latter having the benefit of not inducing RSI.Auto Bolt Rifle and Heavy Bolt Rifle both average 100 DPS.The Plasma Incinerator has literally been nerfed as of U13, it can no longer three-tap a Majoris into execute state even with Plasma Boost. It takes four shots to induce execute state, which requires you venting or overheating the gun before you can fire the fourth shot on all variants besides the venting speed variant. Averages 80 DPS. Do not use this piece of shit.
>>568514757I hope so. I want the live service longevity of Warframe but with the actual depth of SM2. The customization in Warframe is a mile long but it's for gameplay that's a foot deep so it's pointless.
I am really glad we have a testing arena where every midwit can see numbers in a vacuum and think they mean anything.
>>568592518>raw numbers don't meant anythingsorry bud but the plasma incinerator not being able to incap a single majoris without overheating on 3/4 of its variants is in fact dogshit.
>no changes to plasma were done with patch 13>anon is sure plasma now sucks because he has the testing arenahe's going to have the perks setup wrong, isn't he
>>568593073>Completely ignoring the entire damage model just got reworked across the board>Talks smugly about vacuums and then acts like plasma is in its own bubble free from the changes
>>568590042I tried it once
>>568592192>spawn 5 warriors in the testing arena instead of 1>plasma now does 360 DPS>also every shot staggers, unlike stalkerDPS meters turn people into fucking idiots so fast, it's hilarious
>>568593693It exposes idiots, no create them.
>>568593914>>568593693Cool, so it's an infinitely shittier Pyreblaster.
What level should I be before I can do siege Normal without being a burden?
>>568594173>confirming he genuinely forgot it's AoE>goalpost movinglil' bro, please never try theorycrafting again lmao
>>568594275get a team perk, then ur good, normal siege is a joke
NTA but no, something has definitely gone awry with the PI. It took three shots to incap a Warrior in U12, not four.
>>568594523>81 > 81 > 81Plasma Boost isn't activating by the looks of it. The numbers seem to update after the 4th hit, but prior to that, they don't read write on their own instance. If Plasma Boost was activating, the third shot would have done 113.4.
>>568594523stealth nerf or slav incompetence, call it
>>568595304*read rightSleepy ass writing write instead of right.
>>568595304plasma boost definitely works on the new heroic plas pistol, don't know how they could've broken it for just one weapon type
>>568594523Based simple Smurf player.
I am once again shilling the venting version of the Plasma Incinerator which can fire seven [7] times before overheating. That's four [4] more shots than any other variant.
>>568595304Plasma boost still works for me but it only incapacitates in three shots if I'm using the damage variant.
>>568596179I said the same thing months ago and everyone laughedLet it go anon, they will never understand
>auspex doesn't increase equipment damageBug or feature?
>>568597517I never understood why it was considered a joke, it doesn't take that much longer to charge, and it hits 40% overheat by the fourth shot, meaning three shots are getting that juicy PB increase.
>>568597727Feature.
>>568597727I'm more concerned that it's doesn't boost gunstrike.Sometimes i wanna visit their office and ask them few question. We live in the same city but i doubt that they'll let me it.
>>568602286Should send in multiple drones instead, buy some from Ukraine.They deserve every last one bit.
>>568597727It actually used to, but then they changed that because they didn't like people deleting the hive tyrant in a second with meltas and auspex.
>>568602896What's with Saber not liking players beating the game?
>>568599171It would be nice if the description stated what it doesn't work with.It implies it just increases damage done by everything.
>>568603054bAlAncE
>>568602286St. Petersburg or Nicosia? Last time I heard they were moved to Cyprus.
>>568603054Welcome to pidor game dev philosophy, anon. Play War Thunder or Stalcraft and you'll find the ball crushing experience is marginally similar.
>>568603054Russians hate when people enjoy their games or have the least bit of advantage over enemy AI/NPCs. Escape from Tarkov is a very good example.
>>568603292SPb, didn't know they moved somewhere
>Equip a cape>Suddenly can't have front cloth equippedI'm gonna say the word Brothers.....
Auspex Scan was a mistakePerk-based healing was a mistakePerk-based ammo regeneration was a mistakePerk-based equipment regeneration was a mistakeWeapon perk trees being tied to X amount of variants was a mistake, because it inherently limits how many perks a weapon can haveEnemies having their HP determined by difficulty was a mistakeThe Biovore was a mistake
>>568603054It would really benefit the world if more people exposed themselves to Russian ideology and culture. It would answer every question you have ever had about them.
To those who still refuse cape grinding word's out that the Bulwark's 90-sec Majoris/Extremis execute is broken, gotta grind that Bulwark cape before Saber patches it.Makes entire sections comically piss easy. Just bring a Neo Volkite or the heroic Plasma pistol to deal with bosses.
>>568604261I'm of the opinion anybody who thinks damage and defenses should be determined by perks is inherently stupid. At least unless they're certain they have a bomb-proof foundation that works flawlessly.
>>568604428or you could just cheat engine italso, using this perk with a block weapon on bulwark makes it so you can no longer perfect blockhow the fuck did they break so much shit with a single hotfix
>>568605027>or you could just cheat engine itHow?
>>568605240get the cheat engine bypassdo >>568496272warning, it will require multiple completions of custom hard strats, and if you edit the wrong address and crash your game you have to start all over
>>568604261You’re a mistake
It annoys me that the HP bar is segmented and yet HP regeneration doesn't work like Transformers: War for Cybertron. Basically imagine your HP is segmented the exact same, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. If your HP dropped to 33%, you're above 25% and beneath 50%, so your HP would regenerate to 50%. If you were at 89%, your HP would regenerate to 100% etc.Considering this is a pretty close analogues and game-ified version of how Astartes heal from wounds pretty fucking rapidly, but can't recover from major stuff without medical help, I don't get why this wasn't where Saber went.
>>568606227>Astartes heal from wounds pretty fucking rapidlyI feel like this is armor system
>>568604428I'm already done with all ordeals, for capes at least. Thank the Emperor.
>>568606772The armor system is a weird bastardization of the faith system from Space Marine 1, in which the aura protecting your HP bar was literally dev-described as Titus' willpower.Honestly, I think the armor system causes far more problems than it solves. Exhibit A being the insane damage that certain melee attacks do to your HP bar, yet just one single armor bar can tank the same thing.
The imperium was a mistake
The halved values still feel too high for the capes and crap.
>>568608450They'll never adjust it again, any ordeal reward adjustment will instead go to the siege mode ones where they'll remove the wave 20/25 requirements and just put it at wave 15
>>568604428So that's why everything dies instantlyBulwark is the last character left for me to level up, not counting new Techmarine which already caught up to him. I thought this easy mode is how Bulwark played all this time
Armored Advance never comes off.I beat the double Helbrute weekly with Armored Advance.
I do not understand the obsession with Siege mode. Initially it was called horde mode and everyone was even sperging out how Saber dared to even release this game without a horde mode. As if it was so important. I always knew it will suck, since this game mode sucks in L4D, VT1, DT and Space Marine 1 even. It's simply a lazily designed mission where you are just running in circles around samey box of a map as enemies spawn endlessly.Actual l4d style missions are objectively better, actually guiding you through varied locations, tied with a narrative and with thematic objectives. I wish they never bothered with this meme Siege and just made another mission instead. Same with Mortis Trials. Instead this shit even sucks out development time from normal Operations. Fuck Siege. Fuck those arena modes in general
7P99VHard Weekly, if any Brother wants to join, Euro ping, so be advised
why should i bother playing and leveling tech marine?
>>568610830Apologies, lobby cancelled, an issue came up
>>568610671>actually guiding you through varied locations, tied with a narrative and with thematic objectivesDon't care, just here to murder stuff and siege let me murder stuff for several minutes un-interrupted by garbage fluff that doesn't matter.
>>568610936im trying him out and half the time i get stunned and do the gunstrike animation instead of my servo gun doing it. is this normal?
>>568612702You do regular gunstrike while your servogun ability is active.
whylet me have fun
>>568616348niet
>>568579025LMB = ShootRMB = MeleeMMB = GrenadeLeft Shift+Hold Mode = AimLeft Control+Toggle = SprintScroll Wheel = ZoomQ = Ping+Social wheelE = InteractF = Class SkillAll else is default. I know it's fucking weird but I've gotten used to it by this point.
>>568579025swap aim to m2 and melee to m4set aim to hold instead of toggledone, you have now fixed sm2 and can stop saying shit like "heavy is bad because he gets stuck in heavy stance :("
>>568617240>All else is default.Actually that was a fucking lie,V = StimC = ExecuteSpace = DodgeLeft Alt = ParryB = EmoteI can't remember exactly but somewhere there was a game with shift as the default aim or zoom button but it was the only mapping I could find where it made sense. Trying to fucking crush my scroll wheel just to shoot straight feels abysmal and somehow this setup feels way more ergonomical to me.
>17 more skins in total on Tac weapons alone>85 siege wavesIf I were to AFK it would still be a slog to go through. Jfc Saber, make it so you can spend existing currency on those skins.
>>568619945What really kills me is that the siege skin unlocks use your *entire* class's weapon pool as the well, pool. So it's very neat of them every time I get an Occulus color.
>>568620347Yeah, it is VERY counterintuitive. The first thing that comes to mind when you think about unlocking a camo is "bring a weapon you want the skin to unlock for". It's been said so many times here, but they design these systems completely backwards. It's unreal.
>>568579025>shoot - LMB>melee - RMB>ping/comms wheel - MMB>parry/block - MB4>grenade - MB5>ADS (hold) - space bar>med stimm - 1>ability - Q>swap weapon - E>execute - F>use/activate - alt>dodge - ctrl>sprint (toggle) - shift>emote wheel - C
Kraken rounds on the HBR are peam for Chaos Siege
I have to shit.
>When you zone out for half a second and eat shit in the most disgraceful way that brings the shroud of dishonor upon you
>>568628465I will go a week or more without being downed even a single time on absolute and helping randoms do hard weeklies, then on a random fucking mission will just get pranked to death so hard I want to strip all the veteran shit off my plastic toy soldier in shame
>>568619945Just play in normal and dip out after wave 5
>>568616348Reward points are locked, but you can still make progress on ordeals and get the rewards associated with them.
I don't necessarily pay too much attention to the chapter markings but this entire week there's been a huge amount of Salamanders, Blood Angels second, and Imperial Fists third.
>>568628847>>568628465>When the Chaos Spawn goes for the highly telegraphed leap attack with a million year wind up and you stand there ready to parry/block>Flub the timing
The hard stratagem experience.
>>568630098If you have 100+ ping the plasma shots will instagib you thanks to delay and stutter
>>568630098Shit like this is why there needs to be i-frames on being staggered this bad. Genuine hard-locked to death.
>>568630098The devs don't care about hard stratagemsThey only care about normal
>>568630098
Assault and Bulwark are the only time I have fun in this game. Turns out peak SM2 gameplay is either when you're a mosquito that dodges everything, or a slampig unkillable wall.
>>568630098why didn't you pop your stimwhy didn't you clear your wound
>>568631575Because normally you can take one hit then instantly pop it to recover both the health and your wound. In this case it didn't let me because lol lmao get spammed
So tell me more about this "split up" modifier that causes my team to think fighting the entire mission on their own is a great idea.How bad of a modifier are we talking about here?
>>568633216If Split Up, Shadow of the Warp and Strike Out are present you reroll the modifier immediatelyAnything else is better, if you have ranged teammates or are with a Pyreblaster negro you also reroll the friendly fire on modifier
>>568633216If you're too close to anyone, armor regen AND CHP regen AND stims are disabled. To stay too close to anyone is actively griefing
Working on getting the cape for my Son of Horus.
>>568634243Horus?More like Whore-Us
>>568633796>>568633653>Pub nigger re-rolls reduced vision like it's the worst thing ever>Strike Out
>>568634545You won't see where the rocket Terminators and the Biovores are atWithout gunstrikes you won't get free armour, no one on hard siege runs Block and only stupid niggers do and they learn the hard way and switch to Balanced or quit
the heroic heavy bolter is definitely better than the accuracy. cant really use it with the +15% damage on overheat perk though.
>>568633653Shadow of the Warp isn't even bad on nidders
DOG SHIT MODIFIERS THAT YOU NEED TO REROLL IMMEDIATELY>split up>unity>Armor Malfunction>Suspicious BehaviorEverything else is whatever
>>568634720Nigger, Siege waves are just nonstop execution chains, how the fuck are you running out of armor
This new siege update is one of the worst updates I've ever seen to a game. I don't think a single change here has improved the experience at all. From the bugs to design choices that clearly show no one at Saber plays the game. You can join someone elses Siege, wave 1, 5 seconds after the elevator closes and not be able to get your first passive perk. Who thought putting the perk terminal inside the elevator area would make any sense at all? They've also now doubled down on the terminal being fundamental to getting to wave 15, in a game where most people are idiots and are incapable of understanding what any of the parts within the terminal does. They're expecting people to buy Admechs on all three, turret upgrades, all turrets, mines, IG and other items at the right time in the right order, with 2/3 of your groups power dictated by people who could be complete idiots.
>>568635831>isn't even bad on niddersYeah on Waves 1-5
>>568636519Skill issue
>>568636447If you need a passive for the first five waves you are genuinely retarded. You can also get it at the end of wave 5 before the next area. You also don't need constant admechs unless you are again, retarded.
>>568636824Its not about need its about design. There was no reason to place it there to begin with. You also lose out on perks if you join an in-progress game. Its just illogical.Also there is no such thing as not needing Admechs. You have to take them. There is no objective better choice.
>>568636824>You also don't need constant admechs Anon... they give you points...
>>568636063Or they could just remove the negatives entirely. Its hard enough for most randoms filled with idiots.
>>568637102>>568637214So you can spend them on what, more admechs? Just buy stims, a relic, and some ammo boxes if you need them. By the time you get to wave 15 you should have enough for Valtus anyway, and there's no point in playing after that since nothing takes damage.
>>568637551Oh you're trolling. Get a life.
>>568637701Have you tried not being bad at the game
This general is just chuck full of whiny shitters who can't even play Absolute without getting downed, let alone Hard Strats/Siege. Then they have to come here and let everyone know how fucking dogshit they are, like their opinion matters.
>He's desperate for someone to fall for his bait
>he can't clear wave 15 without admechs
Valtus is worthless now. You buy a Commisar and two tarantulas at every shop for half the price and achieve a far more effective use of your req.
>>568636447The reason other coop games work is you can just solo them if your team is shitters. Saber hasn't figured that out yet.
>>568638514I wouldn't say worthless, but the turrets are definitely better overall. I have no idea if they're invincible or what, but I've never seen them break mid wave
Something tells me I could point to this post >>568333221 that proves getting triple Tech Priests as early as possible (so before wave 1) is the mathematically efficient choice and this retard will still argue the point.
>>568639130I could point to your post proving you're gay and retarded and bad at the game and you'd still blah blah blah blah
uh oh melty
See? I bet this is the same guy who thinks Heavy is bad.
>>568639130Its the residential shitposter, he samefags all thread just ignore him.
Saber just fucked up Valtus' numbers, they modified siege mode so much and added more Extremis enemies and forgot about him.By next major patch he'll be back to strong again and will be a must pick for higher waves.They'll nerf the turrets and AdMech guaranteed.
>>568639409And yet, I can clear wave 15 without needing admechs. Curious.
>>568618407>you have now fixed sm2SM2 isnt fixed until they add autosprint. There is never a situation where you wont want to sprint.
More than anything I want weapon specific executions for terminus and extremis.
>>568579025Left shoot, right aim, M4 melee, E parry, M5 stims, use Tab. I dont super love this but Im still new to game. I dont like Alt and Ctrl very much, or even Shift, so it's tricky for me.
>>568592010Can any other non-Heroic sidearm match that for damage?
>>568640482In hyper specific situations, but overall no. Also keep in mind that Neurothropes take like 5x headshot damage so you're not doing that on a Carnifex or Helbrute
>>568640220I want primary and secondary executionsimagine unloading a charged shot from a plasma incinerator into a biovores mouth and its top blows off like a tank turret
>>568639573Wave 15 done correctly is piss easy. Its just that 'playing correctly' is spamming the terminal rather than playing well.
Looking very yellow today
>>568641540>only three purity seals Discount mcdonalds toy
>>568641725I have 5!
Decimus is mad all the time because he knows his class is the bottom bitch boy that's only good for its heal.
>>568641985Decimus is mad because he's dummy thicc and the clap of his ass cheeks keeps alerting the tyranids.
>>568641847>not in double digits I wish we could place custom seals
>>568640736The main advantage of the Neo-Volkite is the actual damaging part, the pop, happens regardless of where you shoot. The only factor is shooting the body has a slower build up than shooting the head. It can also pierce/cook through blocks, which is handy against warriors, the trygon etc.
>>568642456haha, yes !
>>568642765Im trying to figure out which class has the most so far Assault wins with 9 seals
>>568631575I've been in that spot, you unironically are not able to pop it in that state because these shit sucking slavs decided to make everything animation-based.
Did Warhammer get invaded by the furries and trannies?
>>568630098getting pushed up into a wall is death
>>568642765>>568642851Oh shit Tact can have TWELVE seals. Nine in the front and three in the rear. What chapter loves purity seals the most? This should be thematic.
>>568643496Black Templars
>>568643562>Black Templars
>>568643496Exorcists. They literally make crotch cloths out of them. Nobody beats them for loving the fuck out of purity seals. They even have their own unique blue versions.
>>568643729>>568643562Ew. I think Exorcists might be better.
>>568644145Exorcists also got a massive boon with the Salamander torch being split from the rear ornament and now takes the same slot as an Iron Halo. They love their torches.
I love ultramarine sergeants!I love the 4th company!
>>568644352There is something unholy about this specific shade of orange. I swear every color in SM2 is too bright. Maybe I need to change the trims.
>>568644548well met brother we will bring glory to the company
>>568644749I highly recommend Angron Red. It's this nice deep blood orange. I use it on my Blood Ravens.Also Saber aren't stupid, the Exorcists have a gold aquila and follow the same company color rule as the Ultramarines. i.e. black shoulder trim for 5th company, gold trim for 2nd etc.
>>568645406Saber ARE stupidFuck off phone Jesus Christ spell check is getting worse
>>568645406I'll try that color next. Alternative pitch however:
>>568645484The red and white cords make it look really busy imo
>>568645554Agreed, this one has no white cord. But I had to lose a purity seal for the death watch shoulder already so I don't want to ditch more.
its hard to find any kino moments with heavy. he just kinda stands there
>>568645682>>568645406Good call on the red this looks way better.
Red or Green gang for deathwatch lenses?
>>568645717Heavy needs one of those Terminator missile packs on his back so he can finally have a kino moment where he team kills everyone at once
>>568645942green
>>568646018imagine if his q did anything
Holy shit bros I did it.>IH bro>4th-5th time today I attempt hard siege>Usually lose because the black templar players are too stupid to spend resources>This time get an assault and a heavy ultramarine.>Assault bitches out before wave 6 so he gets no mention or glory. It's just me and the heavy smurf who has an unmodified DLC skin>herewegoagain.jpg>Few close calls, but we don't faulter. We hold>Spending everything I have on techpriests and turrets. Barely have enough resources for stims and ammo.>He helps out. I wouldn't call him a pro, but he comes in clutch and does his duty. Only went down twice the whole time. Even buys techpriest every now and then.>Have a system so locked down we actually are able to make it to turn 15 and could have gone more.>Leaves the lobby before I can even get his name and friend requestGuilliman was right IH+UM=invincibleIf you think Heavy sucks you're WRONGIf you think dlc skin purists suck you're WRONGIf you think Smurfs suck (Like I did an hour ago) you're WRONGBECAUSE THIS SON OF A BITCH WAS THE BEST TEAMMATE I EVER HAD! I miss you brother.....If you're still out there....I hope you're still kicking ass....
>>568646245Tech gets three different guns, Heavy gets a shield that does nothing in all situations. Isn't it hilarious.
>>568646245
>>568646796
>>568646796I want the three signature skills to be one that makes the shield invincible for its duration, one that removes it but gives an AoE heal over time and one that puts down a giant fuck you bubble that blocks all ranged damage.
>>568645910Funny part is the right shoulder fits because they're super secret Imperial Fist successors but the Inquisition hides it because the Exorcists engage in super dark voodoo shit.
>>568645717I use the multi melta like a gears of war cover spammer and it looks pretty mental. No clips though unfortunately.
>>568647276Same dude. Its fun.
fire rate multi melta its for youbtw if you are going to use the fire rate multi melta don't use a skin on it because it lowers the fire rate
>>568647464Why would a skin affect the fire rate
>>568647660slavcode
>>568647186Lol what a happy coincidence
>>568645717He needs heroics that actually change up how he plays. Block multi-melta when?
>>568648336>>568647186Still needs more purity seals but hes good enough.
>>568649152We need a dude wall but for action shots
>>568646245I'm not sure SM2 can handle multiple skills per character, it's not on their code.It's why the Librarian is impossible unless they're only going to give it Smite or some variation of psychic fart.Iron Halos are given to Space Marines who did above and beyond, does that mean Straban is a real badass? I'm surprised that even Captain Titus in SM1 didn't have one on him and he only got a meme helmet for ending a massive Chaos invasion in SM2, he should have been given an Iron Halo plus the helmet for his efforts.Heavy's current crop of guns need more damage output (Heavy bolter, Pyrecannon, Multimelta) and more ammo (everything but the heavy bolter). The Gravis armour can have built-in grenade/krak launchers, Boltstorm/Flame gauntlets, jetpack to become Inceptors (though it belongs to Assault), heavy melta rifles and all sorts of 1H weapons.
Thoughts on the new pyre grenade?
>>568649662Only works on Techy who can shoot it without going into a gunstrike.
>>568649662its a better shock nade imo
>>568649662It's good in Siege but it feels limited in its use on Operations.
>>568649662Fun.
>>568649662Great if you have tactical with infinite grenade perk. Inferior to melta without it.
>>568649662bis in siege it basically destroys one entire pack as soon as it spawns
i still not sure how i cleared this weekly with heroic heavy bolter with randoms first try as 3rd hard strat ever clearedThat shit batteries section was hell
>>568649758I prefer it over melta with heavyThe fact i need to gunstrike it is a bonus since i use the heroic heavy bolter so i can insta cool the gun with the grenade
i queued for absolute and there were no brothers online
Anyone has experience with controller on PC? I tried to setup my steam controller for this but i am struggle to even move around let alone aiming
>>568653230I plugged in a spare PS4 controller I had lying around and it just worked.
>>568653230Have you ever used a controller before? Because the default controls are mostly intuitive outside of sidearm being assigned to dpad up. That shit is an instant re-keybind to a back button with a Steam controller.
>>568653230I exclusively play with a PS4 controller. You really have to abuse the autoaim that controllers get.
>>568652769This weekly is pure rng, so you should be happy about your luck.
>>568654939Well we had a tact who did near to 50k ranged damage
I'm shocked there's been no datamines of the Raptors cosmetics, or the new Salamanders champion. We've got Lamenters stuff, the Deathwatch fist, but nothing for the next set of cosmetics.
Do we agree?
>>568656025We agree that people who say "Storms Dominion", "Chains of Duty", "Death's Grasp" etc instead of "heroic X" are insufferable faggots.Also some things in your pic are wrong, but it doesn't matter.
I like the ultimate ratio because I don't want to deal with balanced blocking ever, and the techmarine is squishy enough as is.So that also means the Xenophase gets put down, although I haven't tried it yet after patch 13 said they buffed power sword speeds or something.
>>568656025Not really
>>568656025Power axe too highHeavy Bolter S tier lol lmaoWho the fuck use gladius in argent edge eraBolt sniper is unplayable vs chaos so wtf S lolCombi Melta is anything above F tier? I want his weedRatio is a bit unfair but it is massively worse than the relic tier, same as the Power Axe but for some reason he puts that one A tier kek>>568656410Use Argent Edge, it's your best melee weapon
I hate the people that play this game
>>568656663I'm not going to use a knife when I have a class exclusive weapon right there. As good as it may be, I want to use the explosions.
>>568656824Then better get used to balance because ratio is wayyyy to behind the relics
does anybody wanna join my homebrew chapter the beaky blinders? it is like deathwatch except you have to use a mk6 corvus hel met and you can be from any chapter.our motto is "never give up never surrender" like from angry joes angry army.
>>568657001that sounds tuffwhats the heraldry like?
Is anything blatantly wrong with my Victrix Guard lad here?Knee markings are confusing.
>>568657187I've only seen the helmet fully gold or blue with a gold mouthpart on GW minisThat and both your shoulder trims need to be white
>>568657187Also victrix use the command skull instead of the veteran icon
>>568656882Isn't ratio just a fencing relic with 1 less cleave
Bulwark bugged perk doesn't work anymore
>>568657079we are a successor chapter to the raven guard hence why we use beaky helmets and why we name ourselves the beaky blinders and we crusade throughout the warp tryna find our primarch. it is similar to deathwatch but you 100% need to wear a beaky helmet or you will be lobotomized and turned into a servitor
>>568657572The damage difference make or break weapon especially in meleeSame reason heroic power axe is garbage, damage difference with relic options is too high
>>568657380Like this?I feel like the fully gold helmet just doesn't look as good.Also, corax white trim on this left pauldron still looks metallic, even though it's not supposed to be, and also affects the filigree. I haven't unlocked better ones yet.
>>568658013desu there isn't really another shoulder that shows off the emblem, if you wanna be 100% accurate just go back to the 1st one with no laurelyou could also do blue helmet and gold faceguard. Or do whatever you want, that's a relatively new helmet so there isn't much "official" stuff out there about it
>>568656025I do not like the Wrapped Instigator, same problem as the Occulus. Massive spread unless scoped, and the damage gains are minimal over the ammo Instigator for Vanguard.
The multi melta is a monster
>Sniper still only has a knifeThis is beyond retarded. With the game power creeping towards larger and larger packs it makes no sense that his only melee option is single target.
>>568657187>>568658013>Deathwatch Firstborn is in the game>can't be used>Victrix Guard is in the game>can't be used>Clean Mk10 armour is in the game>can't be used
do I try and grind out the weekly or go ERP in VRChat?
>>568661046If you haven't beat the weekly yet just post codes
The customization options for Vanguard is so fucking limited. I thought I could make a Carcharodons thing for him since I have the pack but no go for the chestpiece.
>>568661308Of all the possible Chapters you can turn Decimus into, he makes for a solid Raptor.
>>568649256That’s actually a neat idea, a battle record of sort, a remembrancer wall maybe, not sure if it could be implemented on the Dude Wall in its own section in some form
>>568661669You have to change his voice to someone who is not “MAGAZINE OUT, MAGAZINE IN”, a bit too ragey for a Raptor
>>568661970A website of uploads would probably be easiest
simple bangel
>>568661669Decimus is probably the worst candidate for a raptor of the six.
>>568662085I was more meaning his aesthetic. Decimus has tons of tacticool options.
>>568662458Show me your Vanguards, I've been running him as a Pre-heresy World Eater for months now.
>>568662458Agreed, the different voice is just an addendum to make it perfect, but between the event helmet and all the antennas and pouches and all that good stuff he’s pretty on point
Saber just needs to commit to the second voice pack. Give me my Raven Guard VO and it'll be going on all my Raptors.
>>568662458With their reputation for preferring simple practicality, I feel like they would be stripped down over superfluous tacticool.
>>568662785Not at all. Simple practicality means grenades and ammo being stored on your armor, instead of purity seals and ornaments.Guaranteed the Raptors pack is probably going to be every limb plastered in ordnance. The chest might take inspiration from a lot of Raptor custom jobs where people shave off the aquila entirely so there's a flat surface for ammo pouches.
>>568660891Just use stock Balanced if you wanna wade into gaunts and not eat shit. Though this is more a damning indictment of Sniper's AoE in general.>Balance knife has triple the cleave of next best option lol >Ammo on secondary kill perk required for all else.>Final perk required for equipment regen, also giving us the one solid use case for the Hero BP.>Las Fusil+Refund on multikill works if you no scope into hordes on approach.>Hero Instigator is a good mower but has shit ammo economy.>Max damage ammo inferno pistol lmao.Everything else is about fucking up one thing as quick as possible in this horde shooter environment.
huh?what are these?
>>568662973Strap loops.
>>568662785I'm hoping for some capes, maybe a camouflage or two when they release Raptor's pack. I guess we'll see if they include some sneak peeks in today's CU.
3 gay dailies today.
>>568662912Tacticool is having a bunch of useless "tactical" shit on your gear.Like three different scopes on the same gun that a space marine is never going to need, one of which is staring directly at the gigantic front post, purely cosmetic faux-picatinny rails, some fidget spinner thing of ambiguous function, a vertical foregrip, leather/cloth wraps and a dumb call of duty weapon charm. Also the weird pouches space marines are covered with these days that are too small to carry anything of use besides maybe one or two bolts.
btw this isnt just an ultramarine helmet
Rhythm of Carnage doesn't work at all
carrying randos through the hard strategem is how I punish myself for failing my workout goals.
>>568664567That really does not look great.It's like a crow is stuck on the face of his helmet.
>>568664783>1 death>more ranged damage than melee as bulwarkShame.
>>568665003blame the disk fags for flying where i can't hit them, and having to solo 3 total helbrutes for the other
>>568664952its an old model
>>568662454Decimus is probably the worst candidate to be a dreadnought too; He's just going to rush in and crash the thing and that shit's expensive.
>>568664783>Assault>low melee damage>lower than Fencing>6 deaths
>>568662556
>>568666235For the nudreadnoughts that turn the pilot to goo over time he isn't actually a terrible candidate.>but why do the new dreadnoughts do thatCawl invented them and says they're better(they're almost identical statistically).
I've just reverted to all of my marines being clean and simple. Smooth brain, smooth marine.
I realize it was posted before but there are few extra angles for the new heroic PF with deathwatch motif.
>>568669414so what is going to be its quirk? No need to charge up the cone attack and a slightly different animation?
>>568670550Charge attack replaced by a melta squirt
Before release I thought Bulwark will be my favorite class, so knightly and melee focused, but he is the least played. He feels so boring and passive and slow and tanky...I thought I will hate Vanguard, because Reivers looks funny + he is a nigger, but he turned out to be my favorite since release and even in PvP now where he was nerfed into uselessness. This glasscanon playstyle, rushing into the enemy, only 2 armor segments, it's all like a fucking crack to me
>>568670550My hope is that it replaces the gun strike animation and weapon stats so you raise the power fist and gun strike with it, getting a stronger version of the inferno pistol's gun strikeIt has the range limitation built in to make it not too powerful already
>>568670550at full charge it does a fire explosion
>even Hazeman rates the Heroic Heavy Bolter highs and questioned if there was some shadow buff to itI knew the daka became stupidly good this patch for no apparent reason
>play alone happily>wave jingle starts playing>a wild 250ms ping chink appears>enemies spawn on top of you>parries stop registering>dieand ching chang chong to you too, mister
>>568637701He's not trolling I've seen this sort of this before.>>568637551>Just buy stims (150), a relic (200), and some ammo boxes if you need them (you do) (30)Cool you just racked up a bill of 380 minimum. Where you getting the money shithead? You get 200 out of the gate.Oh I know! you expect to either win enough waves because you're mlg enough, because let's be real your ass don't do missions, or for one of your teammates to invest in admechs so you can play trust fund baby and sit on 2k resources for doing absolutely nothing. Fuck you
>>568669383Playing a "grunt" marine is a vibe of its own
>>568639573Eh I play turret tech marine and I like to keep it thematic I'll still get em
>>568639706No you can't
>>568678382I've played my fair share with my grunt marines. After a while though, having completed all the ops I figured they deserve the drip. They've been decked out ever since, though I can understand that anon's >>568669383 approach.
>>568641371What do the Admech even do?
2 Neuros with accompanying Zoans when its -75% ranged damage (with Bulwark + Assault). Absolutely horrendous.
>>568678638You know those resources you use to buy guardsmen, turrets dreadnoughts, and whatnot?If you buy this little admechs guy you can actually grow and invest said resources. So you're not a broke ass nigga in higher waves
>>568678638He gives you 40 requisition every 35 or so seconds 8 times by the time he despawns or less if he's killed before that.
>>568676223So the heavy bolter is good now?
>>568678929Oh those resources, makes sense, thank you Brother
>>568679128It continues to be heavy's second worst weapon in general.
>>568679128Heroic yesRelic variant not so muchBut the heroic is really in a good spot now>>568679378Chains of Duty is the second best main weapon Heavy after RoF Heavy Plasma Incinerator but sure
>>568678280>play as a trust fund babythat always ends up being me but I'll splurge on my babbies anytime they ask
>>568678638>>568678929>>568679039Assuming he lives his full term>Initial cost is 200>Stays for 5 minutes and gives 40 req every 35 sec >5*60=300 seconds>300/35=8.57 drops round it down to 8>8*40=320 resources >320/200*100= 160% return on your investment >Aka an extra 120 req for doing JACK SHIT If you are sitting on a surplus of resources and have the extra 200 it's always good to put it for the future
>>568679624>Chains of Duty is the second best main weaponmy man you have a weapon with no splash or aoe or afterburn with the damage per second of a tactical with an auto bolter if he never uses auspex
>>568680810You are very wrong about it
>>568641371>Playing correctly As I get older anon, not only does that appear to be the case for games, but also real life.
>>568681052so you think it either has splash or aoe or afterburn and higher dps than an auto bolter
>>568646426>Literally just want the champion skin without the helmet.>Try to build a custom set> IH champion Chespiece won't give me the metal tabbardSAAAAAAABEEEER!
>>568682429I think you understimate massively the weapon
>>568682907which part
>>568656025I only play techy. You should probably have tier lists for each class. Heroic HBR is pretty good though
>>568656810They do tend to larp a lot don't they?
>>568683319https://youtu.be/MlkmDCR6iC8The guy pretty much only plays hard siege now
>>568683154The fact you think this weapon doesn't currently shred into mist minoris majoris and extremis at it's optimal range to do headshots
>>568684349at the damage per second of an auto bolter
>>568684523Play the game
>reddit guardsman say heavy bolter good>hazeman say heavy bolter good>everyone on internet say heavy bolter good>this place say heavy bolter bad
>>568684636playing the game is what tells me how much damage weapons do
>>568684960They say the relic RoF heavy plasma incinerator is better than the heroic variant too, yet the former has such a dismal ammo capacity that I'm nearly out of fucking ammo after a single engagement even when I'm trying to be conservative with my shots.
I'm tired of fighting thousand sons and calling them "chaos" when can we fight other legions?
>>568645717If only melta guns could be melta guns instead of tickling the balls of targets it should be raping.
>>568686067That is for playing like an howtizerIt's hard playstyle, especially with randoms so it's better suited for solos, sieges, playing with competent people and you also know very well how to play
Just give Heavy two primaries.
New community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/404-may-community-update
>>568690373>new class for 2027what are your bets?
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/404-may-community-update
>>568690739I can't wait for apothecary and the accompanying healing/contested health rework to completely dumpster the game's internal balance
>>568690739Apothecary, I don't see Librarian being a thing
>>568690739Apothecary:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/ideas/361-new-class-apothecary?page=1
>>568690373>Regarding the new Ordeals, our chapter Chaplain has learnt of a number of “creative” practices with the private lobbies to quickly get the rewards, and has instructed all units to heed the following warning. We’re not going to fix these, but you’ve been warned, Space Marines!
It's going to be Leandros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib8VnOHR9yEShut up Leandros
>>568691062>Russians pointing out cheatingI love the irony, but at the same time I appreciate their jest. You got me there Ivan!
>>568691151>You gained nothing!Uhhh, I gained the cosmetics I wanted and I'd do it again with thresholds steep as these.Go back to fondling serfs Leandros.
>>568686067>heroic plasmaFor shitters, slightly subpar to heavy bolter>relicHigh skill only.If you are bad don't play relic incinerator
I wish new "hard" ordeals were at least somewhat interesting. Triple headshot kill is good... And that's all. All those grind regular shit is not really hard ordeal, just tedious.Give me smth funny, like explode 3 extremis with one melta. Or complete mission without taking health damage. Or finish off two terminus in 10s.
>>568691062>We’re not going to fix theseNice of them to at least admit those were a mistake.
>>568690739Judiciar
>>568692263Oh no Leandros got him
>last area before the entry to Nozick's facility>guy runs in first, kills all enemies, pings a turret, then the techmarine (me)>no single target in sight>we just finished a wave>run past him>he emotes "refuse" and ragequitswhat the fuck is wrong with people
>>568686237>have a plasma pistol>don't use it even once
>>568690739>Chaplain >Apothecary >Librarian >NiggercatcherThose are our options. Chaplain and apothecary are the easiest, but less likely to not interfere with balance. Librarian is a cool idea, but I'm not sure how he can be implemented. I'm thinking some heavy shields along with some psyker blast mechanics. Maybe you could change staffs and perks to change said blasts into cones or circles of aoe.
>>568693232Nta but how the heck are you supposed to use the plasma pistol for CHP regen? I always eat shit trying to charge the thing and thus I stick to HBP and the Inferno mostly.
>>568690739New chaplain from 11th
But...I just did this...am I missing something? I stopped right after wave 15 and started from wave 1.
>>568694637Charge speed variant. It's the only usable one.
>>568696135If an host migration happens the game say it doesn't count anymore
>>568696361Fuck
It's Apothecary or Chaplain for sure, with Apothecary being the most likely in my opinion for two reasons.>The Apothecary was one of the first greenlit ideas on the Focus Forums suggestion page, like we're talking the first give things approved alongside lens colors and such>Apothecary gives Saber the breathing room to rework the entire healing system in regards to the likes of Bulwark and Vanguard
>>568690739>a new class>in half a fucking year
>>568690739New class wishlist>LibrarianI can see him being the novelty pick. How I'd envision it is that his primaries are replaced with psykana schools unique to him(Pyro = Flamer, Voidshit = Plasma, Telekinesis = Bolters), he'd get the full range of secondaries, and his unique melee being the force staff that slightly changes depending on psykana school. Other than that? I can see a reskinned power sword and the knife being alternatives. Also WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOM level VA work. Probability never ever.>ApothecarianSafest pick by far. Vanguard having the most consistent healing with Bulwark a close second is *not* going to last if we get a healbot guy. How they would implement that is the hard part, given that Apothecaries are not known for their damage output. Unique reductor pistol would be cool but probably shit and I don't even know how they would implement the narthecium.All is forgiven if they don't touch Unmatched Zeal and give Vanguard a Helix Adept left arm cosmetic.>ChaplainCrack pick, probably conflicts with Bulwark already.>TerminatorProbably takes the most work, but the janky Astartes mod version was fun.>New weapons/Cosmetics wishlist>Evisc/Relic bladeNot my first choice but here because it's what slavs crave.>Paired Combat Knives for Phobos ONLY.Give me options for sniper, a knife playstyle that actually can handle shit like a Bulwark, and manic crackhead energy. I don't even care if it has the same cleave so long as it swings fast enough to not matter.>Heroic Melta with low cleave but 100 damage.FUCK YOU GIVE ME LORE ACCURATE MELTAS.
Similar to the Dreadnought, are the Guardsmen something I should be saving instead of deploying right away?
>>568698754NahYou want to buy the 3x techpriests, turrets and the guardsmen because they will protect the priests
>>568698754Guardsmen are there to give the enemy more targets and therefore more meat to chew through. They're cheaper than the dread but they are just meat shields at the end of the day so make sure you have admechs first at least. I prefer turrets tho
>>568698754Purchasing the Guardsman has become pointless. The Commisar spawns them endlessly for the five minutes he's active, so one the 5/10/15+ etc. waves, the second you enter the countdown phase, you should buy him immediately so he can generate as many Cadians as possible in the minute he isn't getting attacked.
I like this new red for the blood angels, very demure
>>568699171I dont see anything called admechs anywhere in the buy list.
>>568699558Techpriests anon 200 resources cmon get with the slang
>>568699178I thought the guardsman purchases increased the cap on guard that the commissar could replenish? They are one time purchases.
>>568699178That's actually a cool feature, these bumbling russians are incredible at implementing nice stuff and some horrid garbage all in the same update
>>568634304Don’t talk about my wife like that.
>>568696814>apothecary is now must bring >nobody wants to play the heal bitchBig issue here here is lack of wargear options. While Primaris getting rid of wrist-mounted Narthecium was partially walked back on, the standard Primaris Apothecary would still only get a Heavy Bolt Pistol, a CCW of your choice and the Reductor Pistol which is essentially just a fancy captive bolt pistol (as in, the kind they use to euthanize animals) so essentially a melee weapon or a special gunstrike/execution thing.Of course this didn't stop them before but still, Apothecary would probably be pretty lame in offensive terms being basically a Tactical without scan.
>>568699281Looks dope, it reminds me of the colors from the Angels Of Death animation
>>568700631>lack of wargear optionsJust make him buff teammates damage and deal low damage himself So net team damage stays the same.
>>568700527HORUS SUPERCOCK
>>568700720Yeah I love it, looks so metally in game
>>568701026it looks more like how someone would paint their minis. super nice.
>>568699281I love it as the shoulder highlights for my Black Templar.
>>568700527the whoreus herussy...
>>568700876LICK'MA JOHNSON
teammates left me behind with 2 hellbrutes
>>568702024if they spawned in the necron tomb area or the gangway the strat is to just run past them and get to valtus
>>568702159it was at the battery and both my teammates just fucked off somewhere else
>>568700527>Starts off as a cool charismatic big breasted tomboy>Chaos corruption causes her to shave her head reduce several breast sizes and become a cunty lesbian futa before her mother is forced to put her down Sad>>568702024Fleshnigger Teammates come and go anon, but turrets have no legs so they can't leave only the strength and certainty of steel and be trusted
I have a RX 7600 with 8GB VRAM, I got this game earlier in the year and it had a bug where the textures would blurry every 5 minutes. Do you know if they fixed this? The game was fun but unplayable.
>>568700631>nobody wants to play the heal bitchWhy do you think that is anon?Have you played this game lately anon? I'm a techmarine and I can't get my teammates to stand next to me let alone my turret no matter how safe and buff giving it is. You put a traditional medic class in this game and he WILL be abandoned by the assaults vanguards and snipers. Bulwarks will pretend to have his back, but they're going to ignore them too.
>>568701953VULKUM
>>568700631Dow2 had him with a chainsword, bolter, and power axe options. Narthecium gauntlet aside the first thing that came to find afterwards was a chainfist but I don't think they deploy with those. A dedicated "support class" with low damage output doesn't seem appealing.
>>568703095>Dow2 had him with a chainsword, bolter, and power axe options.Shit dude why not just merge him in with tactical then?
>>568703095yeah, but dow2 is prePrimaris
>>568703093FULGRIM
>>568703550It wasn't meant to be too positive of a comparison since his wargear is still pretty limited even in other games.
>>568704113Oh, I get it!
>>568703095That's pre-Primaris Apothecary. Honestly more "fun" option could be Helix Adept. They're just average Phobos armour retards but they get the Narthecium-like gauntlet to heal people, but they're not actually Apothecaries and don't even have the white colour scheme.Back when game released and people were brainstorming class ideas I figured it'd be easy to adapt the existing group as "Prestige Classes", Assault becoming a Chaplain with Jump Pack and shit (see recent new edition announcement), Heavy becoming a Techmarine with two-handed melee weapon instead of gun but with a gun on his back (See Tech-Marine's forge bolter) and Vanguard becoming a Helix Adept. I still feel like that might have been the original intention with how Straban is an autist, Vespasius helps the Chaplain a lot, the Scipius voice line about "I look into their eyes, not their minds" (picrel), etc. I think there was a voiceline about one of the guys helping rebuild the Apothecarion but I don't remember which one that was.
>>568704614>I think there was a voiceline about one of the guys helping rebuild the Apothecarion but I don't remember which one that was.Quartus, the bulwark, mentions that HE'S the one undergoing reconstruction in the apothecarion.
Where's my heroic tri-burst plasma incinerator that goes all in on common shots?
>>568704712Is that so? I might have misheard/misremembered it then. Still, I feel like they set up so many "future promotion" hooks with them that it just makes too much sense to be a coincidence.
>>56870567>>568704614>Valius: Finally becomes sergeant with Vespasius and Quartus' commendations>Vespasius: Enters chaplaincy>Decimus: Becomes a dreadnought>Quartus: Continues tenure as Bladeguard or also in line for being dreadnought>Scipius: Evolves into pic related>Straban: More silly gravis armor shit
kris deltarune
there a list of the best base perks for each class?
>>568706571
Anyone wanna lobby up? :3I'm not very good but I miss playing with the bros all the time at launch
>>568706185>More silly gravis shit.That reminds me, double plasma heavy is arguably one of his better loadouts so it kinda upsets me that we don't have Inceptor cosmetics. Like, that dumbass ballistic helmet and folded up Gravchute booties would look neat imo.
>>568708116whatcha wanna do?
>>568708830Maybe the big dailies? The regular one for warm-up, then try the hard one/siege if anonmarines feel like dealing with my constant fuckups.>t. tactical main but I kinda want to level assaultI'll give it a few minutes.
>team has 5000 points and won't spend it on anything
>>568709261Why would I be spending cash on anything besides 30req ammo packs and 5-wave interval defenses?
>>568709617So we dont die on wave 19.
>>568709617Techpriests....you could make your 5k bigger and help your team out at the same time.
>>568707204>Tact: Ammo on majoris kill>Assault: Refund on jetpack enhanced running attack>Vanguard: Depends>Bulwark: Intimidating Aura>Sniper: Contested health heal on cloak>Heavy: The weapon based one>Tech: Also depends
>>568684960they are only talking about the fencing version. it is quite good for "trve solo runs" where you have infinite ammo and armor drip. but its not great in a team setting where you want to focus on killing high value targets at range
>>568691062>>568691151Every time you cheat, Leandros seethes just a little bit more.
>>568709261>The reason they have it is because you spammed techpriests >No they can't return the favor
>>568711494Yes this is exactly what happened.
>>568698328>first half of 2027More like a year and a half. And they were just catching shit not long ago for missing the shit out of their deadlines. So it'll probably be months longer than even that, closer to two years.
>>56871021020 absolute cleared since patch with Heavy and the heroic heavy bolterYou are supposed to play """""range artillery support"""""is a fucking meme, if there is a cunt sorcerer that far away or termicunt with rockets Iron Halo > charge shot heroic plasma pistolHeroic Heavy Bolter + Heroic Plasma Pistol is my go to until something change.ROF relic Incinerator mortar shot are undeniable strong yes, but that shit is just too much effort than worth itRight now my average damage is ~25K every run> it is quite good for "trve solo runs" where you have infinite ammo and armor dripthis is but the plasma yeah, the bolter has zero ammo economy issue and actually you want to be low on ammo quite often with it for the damage boost
the hit box of this attack is such bullshit
Hard Weekly is being made even harder by runfags who proceed to get double tapped in the back by the Helbrutes.
>>568712850It shouldn't even be an attack honestly, especially not an unparryable one. It's a lot like the neurothrope wake up (not the scream it almost always does when it gets up, I mean that it lifting from the ground can sometimes deal damage for some reason).
>>568714318>sometimes deal damageI think it ALWAYS used to deal damage but a patch intentionally nerfed it, or the code that causes its damage reduction as its recovering messed with the damage values for the recovery shockwave.
>>568712997There is only one run section, if the Terminus spawn at the trainyard you are forced to fight them.This weekly filters noobs who need to practice at the Battle Barge arena more.
>>568714714>There is only one run section, if the Terminus spawn at the trainyard you are forced to fight them.And again, everybody who starts running dies. Just fucking kill the Helbrutes, it's not hard.
>>568715196>play the game like how I want or I'm going to hold it hostageCool
>>568715581yes
>>568714714The trainyard at the very least has wide open spaces and some decent hard cover around the control platform to dodge charged shots.
Fall of Atreus Hard daily brothers?I got stuck on the loading screen, and then the game crashed.
>>568715581The fuck are you implying by holding anything hostage?>Every time my team fights the first batch of Helbrutes we win>Every time some fag runs we loseI'm not the one hampering the run
>>568690739I bet it'll be something gay like apothecary, when all we really need in terms of healslutting are tips during loading screens or somewhere to let people know how to team heal with bulwark or vanguard.Do people really want a class virtually all about healslutting? Then one guy's gonna be forced to play that class on everything above absolute probably until the servers shut down, and it'll probably play like another lesser tactical, except they'll have a reductor pistol for unique executions and for interacting with dead teammates bodies so they respawn twice as fast or something.If they really wanna make something ball blasting, they have to make something like a librarian class or a terminator class. There's ways they can make them work, and both them and the community have had an ocean of time to figure out how to implement them without breaking the game. Terminator could be a more melee equivalent of a heavy. And we don't really have a mage type class like a librarian, so you could do tons of shit with that.And unless they finally fuck off with being anti class stacking, they really should put out two classes at a time like another anon suggested.
>>568714714>>568715581>>568716169I literally had a weekly run yesterday with some jackass nightlord who thought he could outrun the carnifex and solo everything. Never knew what happened to him because shadow of the warp, but I didn't bother with the revive.
>>568716152Expired.
>they brought back tactical getting grenades from his ammo regen perk>no one said anythinglmao the meta just flipped back to GL
QUIVERING MASS OF COMPUTATIONAL GREY MATTER
>>568717842Oh so that explains why I've been seeing way more Tacticals running the GL bolters again.
>>568717859INSIGNIFICANT WASTE OF GENE-SEED
>>568716370>people know how to team heal with bulwark or vanguard.They do know anon. They just don't care.>Same reason why people try to run away from entire parts of an op>Same reason why people receive 4k resources from their teammates techpriests, but don't buy one in return >Same reason why they think having a certain build is grieving They know anon. They're selfish assholes. Many of them are underage. Have a healslut class or don't it changes nothing. People will still play it or not. Some idiots will try to solo with it. You
People seem to have glossed over this one.This doesn't sound like a simple numbers change, this is an entire fundamental rework of the mechanic.
>>568718280And that's why we need a search menu like drg, so you can filter hosts based on if they're p4 and how many Xx's are in their username.
>>568690952So which Chapter is Apothecary's champion skin going to be? Another Ultrasmurf like the pre-order Heavy one?
>>568717964that and kraken rounds applies to bolter grenades if you switch back to aiming with the bolter after you shoot the grenade. It does this with every projectile.
>>568718998It's a lot and a lot of nothing to go on at the same time.They could've been working on it all this time and moved so many numbers around in the background only for the actual tangible change to be so subtle in execution that you have to be told about it and to look for it specifically to even notice it.
>>568718998one of the more popular positive strat boosters is larraman cells, so what if the new system is a middle-ground rework?>take damage>you're able to recover all cHP doing the necessary damage>there's a new regen cHP bar that's 75% of the damage taken>if you don't do the necessary damage to get all cHP back, you passively regenerate hp larraman cell style up to the regen cHP that's remaining
>>568719646It's gonna be a sanguinary priest.
>>568721927Quick question brother, do Sanguinary Priests go White Scar or do they use that light gold out of the BA pack? I've seen both paint schemes and did up my Bulwark to look like one but I haven't posted him because I don't want to get the scheme wrong and embarass myself.
Literally 90% of the difficulty is that the token system was never designed for this number of high level enemies. The fact that you can be targeted by both Helbrutes AND three Soulreaper Terminators is fucking horrendous.
>>568722718terminus dont obey the token systemim not even sure if extremis do
>>568723595That's what I said, and no, Extremis don't follow it either. As in the example, you can be targeted by both Helbrutes spaffing plasma faggotry AND three missile Termies committing Israeli warcrimes on you at the same time. I don't care how good you are, this is an insta-lose situation.
>try heavy>play Heavy Plasma and you are a shittier sniper with none of what makes sniper good and you have such a shit ammo economy missing a shot or not getting extremis to execute legit makes it a miserable experience>play heroic heavy bolter and now your damage is noticeably peanuts compared to plasma but you kinda made up for it with infinite ammo and a good parry for better surviability, so now instead of being a shittier sniper you are a budget tactical with nothing of the tactical perksthe class needs a massive rework holy fuck
>>568722718all the enemies in the world dont matter>round 15>krak grenade with 50% damage buff does 3% HP to a mutalithNone of our tools do any damage at some point and I dont have the patience to keep LOSing enemies and playing some faggot ass parry gameI look at all the patchnote copes from the devs>headshot calculations are too complex to balance easily>contested health calculations are too complex to balance easilyand all i can think of is how retarded Arrowhead is in making its otherwise elegantly simple Helldivers 2 an overcomplicated, impossibly hard to balance shit show because someone decided to be retarded instead of playtest the game and manually tweak the numbers until the game didnt feel like shit
>>568726576Very common problem these days that developers overcomplicate very simple systems. Constantly trying to reinvent the wheel.
>>568726118regarding the heavy bolter>does no fucking damage despite being the largest bolter, but is consistent with bolters>unnecessarily high rate of fire that requires a ramp up so youre suboptimal unless wasting ammo actively, not that it matters because you will overheat in no time>character cant hold it steady or shoot straight at max RoF, which should be its selling pointIts like some faggot thought he was clever and felt the need to introduce a drawback for every feature regardless of it is a good or bad oneon and this very faggot hasnt played the game or used the gun, hes just pre-empting, so for no reason at all (which is exactly how the suckage feels in practice in all aspects of space marine 2 and helldivers 2) the end product feels like shit
>>568726775remember that time they had a problem MECHWARRIOR HAS NEVER HAD?like the gun was actively shooting the barrel, and therefore the model, instead of the aim being handled independedntly of the torso or barrel or whatever so you could blowyourself up because apparently swedes have never played mechwarrior?
>>568727443What was happening was the missile housing was clipping into the front of the mech, and the missile was colliding with the front which is what blew you up. Hence why it only happened when turning right. Their fix was to limit the missile housing's turn radius so now it can't really aim independently from the mech.
>>568727741so what youre saying is they never learned from mechwarrior, and their fix was worse implemented than mechwarrior?
>>568727443Game developers now are not only not programmers they dont even know basic math. Not even fundamentals like quantities and order of operations. They just drag shit around in blueprint until it works.>>568727871And 99% of "game developers" do not play games or even research other projects. All of these people are living in their own faggy bubble hugbox where they are always right.
>>568727871Mechwarrior doesn't even entertain the idea that your own munitions can collide with your mech when being fired, because it's needless overcomplicated shit trying to be realistic. It is physically impossible for your munitions to hit you because they aren't tangible objects on your end.
The 30% Vanguard heal isnt as great as I thought, it can be stolen from me when I need it and Extremis and Terminus arent super common. Who shilled this shit?
>>568728918>Extremis aren't commonSorry buddy this is a big self-telling on what difficulty you're playing.
>>568727741They could have just made the missile not interact with the missile housing for say, first second.
>>568729174>Arrowhead>Sensible decisions
>>568728918>extremis aren't super common
>>568727147>>does no fucking damage>>unnecessarily high rate of fire that requires a ramp up so youre suboptimal unless wasting ammo actively, not that it matters because you will overheat in no timeyou are not supposed to play other bolters beside the heroic in that weapon treeNo ramp up takes a while to overheat, and anyways you can gunstrike to insta cool the weapon (it has fencing parry window)
>>568729060The only difficulty that matters.
>>568728918they aren't maybe below lethal
All absolute done atleast once2 games for Heavy Red cape
>>568729275to be cleari prefer the heavy bolter more because of the parry timings and melee damage than anythingthe stomp is just that much better vs chaos than alot of things vs chaos
>>568728918It's not worth it below Lethal
>>568656025Biggest problem here is that several relic versions of these weapons are still stronger than even the S tiers save for stuff like the parry knife and wrapped sniper.
>do normal siege>tell my teammates to buy tech priests and turrets>they don't>they don't even spend the resources I'm generating for them>one of them has 4400 and I've not seen him near a terminal once>go to hard siege>the host started it early and has all 500 dosh>he meanders around until finding his way to the wave starter without spending any of it, not even one tech priestIt can't be this hard for people to figure out how nuSiege works, come the fuck on.
>>568732928Did they manage to find the blessings station at least?
Wow only 3 years after release we maybe might get some actual bug fixes. How generous.
Every single fucking death against these assfuck wombo combo Helbrutes has been the definition of borderline comical unfair bullshit. >Double stacked plasma blasts in awkward intervals>Charged blast not even aimed at me conveniently OHKOing me more than once>Triple Extremis respawning almost instantly>Massive super horde spawning that makes bugged old Substantial look tame in numbers
Wish we had four loadouts instead of three.
>>568732928last game I could do nothing but stare in wonder as the prestige 4 lvl 25 assault I queued with launched himself max distance away from the nearest teammate (it's squad unity) and die to like 10 gaunts
>>568738045Could easily fit 5-7 loadoutsLet us buy all prestige perks and reshuffle them per loadout, they can also add more prestige perks Add one last prestige level that unlocks a fifth slotLet players spend siege mode currency to buy siege mode colourways and skins
space wolves won this patch, its not even close
I know the omnisiah axe is supposed to be bad but how do I get the most out of it on tech marine?
>>568740919>300-400 damage in a giant AoE>bad
>>568740919put the perk that does AOE on lights. spam chop/explosion/spin
>>568741108How do I get that shit to work in majoris groups? Get the parry then instantly start charging it? When am I supposed to use the gunstrike? Also do I use the block or fencing to do this?
>>568741390Just fucking swing, it's not that complicated
>>568740371Yeah the fashion for the Space Furries is making it difficult not to go Wolfspear.
>>568741390>blocknot on techmarine, noparry, gunstrike immediately while also slamming a chop down, hold it and release it whenever you need to get out of the animation to do your next parry
>>568740919Get fencing one. Parry-attack into charging boom-gunstrike mid charge so enemy don't move\attack-double boom in big aoe.
>>568741390>Parry > Light > Hold > Gun Strike > Explosion
>>568741763the day they add a white fur cape to match the wolf shoulderpad is the day every class I can equip it on gets that, and get converted to whatever chapter I need to to have it make sense for them to be wearing it
>>568741783>>568741839>>568741853Thanks brothers. Does the rush have a use case aside from plowing through minoris and spamming gunstrikes? And does it matter whether I use the light finisher from it or the one that activates if you just keep holding down melee?
>>568742116Why don't you just let your wife's boyfriend play the game for you since you're too fucking retarded to figure out the most basic shit in the game
>>568742314Why do you instantly start thinking of cuck shit
>>568742457Because you can't do anything on your own
>>568742116It's just movement ability, nothing useful.
>>568740919Bottom treeAll melee talents
>>568742513Rip i guess. Kinda makes the heroic worthless no?
>>568742857Correct
>>568742857Yep, it's shit, regular fencing is better stats iirc
>>568742952>>568743125>both heroic axes are garbageWhat did the ziggers mean by this
>>568742857Do you need someone to hold your hand while you make poopie too
>>568743125Regular fencing has one more cleave.You never want to be actually swinging the axe over explosions anyway so Heroic Fencing Omni-axe is better than the relic fencing.
>>568744503Cleave affects explosion damage on everything outside of the initial target though
>>568744642Even with minimal cleave it's still hitting majoris enemies behind me.
Where's my chainfist
>Block Axe with its near-20 damage>Still takes like 5 hits to put a Warrior into incapBro this whifflebat shit is getting old.
>>568747371Yeah, I need to do some testing but the power axe's normal fucking attacks hit like a wet noodle. It's fine on Techmarine and Vanguard because they use it as a great defense tool but trying to use it on Assault is asking to eat shit to Majoris groups.
You know this entire time I thought Xister Hylia was a tranny, but it turns out she’s just some 6/10 Slavoid But you know what? Would.
>>568747583>>568747371The simplest possible solution would be to balance Majoris enemies to die within a designated combo chain. That's both intuitive for players and the dev team.i.e. a Nid Warrior and Rubric marine should be incapped within four hits of a Chainsword light combo, which is the actual length of the chain without getting into that worthless additional 5th hit perk.
I am Bortifying this thread.
>>568718998It desperately needs a rework. Your first thought when taking a chunk of damage shouldn't be "Oh no I need to retreat while firing my gun like a faggot to recover my HP", it should be "I need to slice up that cunt with my chainsword right NOW to get my health back".
>>568717842It's only one grenade every time Emperor's Vengeance procs but yeah it's still better than nothing. The real kicker is that Heavy doesn't get fucking anything back with Auxiliary Reload; if he got a full refill of grenades with the thing it'd at least be a fun niche loadout.
>>568754896Yeah the numbers are completely off in regards to encouraging aggression. But it's not just the cHP recovery, it's down to the fact enemies can and will repeatedly put you on the defensive in melee to the point it almost never feels worth getting into the thick of it.Block especially induces a really negative habit in the player, in which you'll just play like a defensive cuck until you have your adrenaline stacks for the explosion and armor.
>>568756456It’s the opposite actually With Parry/Balanced you’re eternally a defensive cuck, you never have priority, even if you’re attacking you have to instantly stop and parry the moment anything thinks about swinging at you With block at least once you have your two stacks you get to actually go on a genuine offensive because all your attacks stagger the enemy
>>568757513That's not entirely true, as Assault/Bulwark I straight up won't melee with one stack of adreno, whereas with Balanced I will just swing like a retard and dodge cancel out of the locked animations.
>>568718998It's a prerequisite to even consider an apothecary class.
What unlocks the Emperor's Children icon?
>>568763285eating and raping an infant, in that order
>>568762224This entire rework of the cHP system is definitely a probably hint that the next class is Apothecary. Boosted healing doesn't become mandatory when everybody passively recovers health ala Larraman Cells, it just becomes a nice boone instead.It also frees up Bulwark to be the dedicated armor reinforcer.
>>568763897>>568762224>>568754896larry cells passive + vanguard majoris execute is how healing should work in this game
I remember when our helmet choices were incredibly limited.Now there's too many to choose from.
>>568768092Shoulder choices are still pretty grim desu
>>568769392As bad as the lack of Phobos chest pieces?
Loyalist Emperor's Children for the Dude Wall.
>>568770690From what I can tell, the purple color from the Salamanders pack has the more metallic looking purple that I think make for a better looking EC than the color that flat out says Phoenician Purple.
>>568770271Yes, because it's an illusion of choice. Most shoulders are shit yet there's tons of them.
>>568771886still shits me off that they're all reserved for the one side rather than both shoulders.
>>568771949It's why I've settled for making the most big standard looking marines, because otherwise the basic shoulders look weird on a really ornamental dude.
>>568773380*bog
>kraken penetrator rounds damage bonus applies to the heroic plasma pistol shots as long as you're not ADSing>can one-shot an auspex'd Neurothrope>also the Tactical and Bulwark instakill signature perks don't have a cooldownHow do they manage to break shit this severely?
>>568770690>>568770859I think you might be onto something.
>Warframe is too easy for me>SM2 is too difficult
>>568776094>too difficultDid you just start?
>>568776264Yeah, but I cant even beat this weeks Strategem on normal. The 2 big bosses wipe us every time.
>>568775583I was on the fence about buying the Salamanders pack myself but this might convince me over to it. I was staring at another guy in EC colors and was wondering why he looked more purple than I did.
>only one new class instead of putting in Leandros, Apothecary guy and an Executioner if they can't add the Librarian
>>568776094Thats sad because SM2 isnt even hard.
>>568776320What level and class?
>>568776453Just shows how boringly easy Warframe is.
>>56877645417, Vanguard. Couldnt do it even when paired with level 25 randos though, several times.
Another day, another opportunity to be introduced to the worst max prestige players I've ever seen.
>>568776541Close to max I see, are your weapons at least at relic? I wouldn't consider SM2 really "starting" until you maxed out on weapons because that's where the baseline damage values start to matter.
>>568776705No, but I dont think a minor increase in damage woulda made a difference.
>>568776453how do you even 39k damage on heavy?>10k damage tacticali guess you need the rest of the team to literally never shot their guns
>>568776094SM2 isn't difficult, its a gear check plus RNG check for the weeklies. There is fuck all skill involved.
>>568776543The game should have a ELO system that filters max prestige players per class that is server side only but made public as a permanent tag.Tracks how many Absolute, hard stratagem and hard siege victories and losses. Right now its actually hidden and can be manipulated via Cheat Engine.A level 25, prestige 4 player with a low ELO is a high-risk player and most likely a retard who should get kicked.
>>568776819>No, but I dont think a minor increase in damage woulda made a difference.It's been ages since I've leveled primary weapons, even considering the techmarine, but a full weapon perked loadout with full levels and stats is where you should consider being "prepared". You're not necessarily playing with a full deck with low levels when you're still building one character to max.
>>568775583Wait, is this that Salamanders pack purple or Dark Angels pack purple?
>>568776850You shoot things. Its just that simple.
>>568777338what weapon you use?
>>568777475heroic heavy bolter
>>568777528yeah you need afk team mates to do that much damage with it
>>568777574Whatever you say nigger
>>568777219It's from the Salamanders pack, screamer pink.
>>568777707your tactical did 10k ranged, that is afk tier, the assault did jackshit tooEither they were afk or you soloed 90% of the map and these guys joined near the end
>>568777913HmmI did want to try out the brazier, but the salamanders have another champ pack coming soon, most likely for heavy to boot.
>>568778946The brazier is chapter-neutral now since it's been decoupled from the Salamanders backpack. Good for chapters like the Exorcists, Black Templars and Word Bearers.
>>568779080Yeah having a flaming skeleton on my power pack was an interesting combination I've been eyeing.
Am I retarded or is there no way to get the space furries tabard from vanguard's champ skin on him unless you wear the full skin?
>>568780553Think Tactical got it, same with the Salamander Sniper tabard, but no Vanguard can't use it because he has no access to those sorts of cosmetics as a base.
>>568780553Lots of items dont appear unless you wear the full skin or because its the 'wrong' class
>>568780650>>568780686Saber blows me away with their incompetence.
>>568781502Just dont think about the fact that modders have added about 10-20x more content in terms of cosmetics every 6 months
3 doable dailies today.
>>568781767youre doable
Raptors cosmetics leaked.
The Neo Volkite regens 0 CHP. I don't know why you guys say so.
>>568782418It regens a trickle of cHP on the beam and then a massive chunk of cHP on the explosion.
>>568776819The damage numbers on the weapon page don't actually give an accurate representation of how much damage it does.
Storm Bolter when...
>>568718998I don't like big changes to core mechanics after release. Just make Space Marine 3 if they want to rework health
>>568776094Don't feel bad anon. I have 300 hours so far which isn't a ton but I have pretty much all weapons maxed and every class prestiged multiple times but I've still never beat an absolute mission. Most of my time is spent in Substantial and Ruthless since everything past that is just too much. This is definitely one of the harder games I've ever played and I have no life and have played thousands of games. I have 2,200 hours in warframe from waaaay back in the day and it was definitely gay baby boo boo mode compared to SM2.
>>568787869>I have 2,200 hours in warframe from waaaay back in the day and it was definitely gay baby boo boo mode compared to SM2.From what I know of, the problem has only gotten worse since then.
I FUCKING HATE THIS CLASS
I hope they eventually say "fuck it" and truly unlock the wargear options. Let me use the Raven Guard champ skin pteruges on any class I want, damnit.
>>568790571Maybe it will be fixed in the 3rd year :) (lol)
>>568776094>Play random op on minimal>Win with no deaths = up difficulty level >Win, but die even once, (even if revived)= stay where you are >Lose= go down a difficulty level
>>568780553Oh shit that's a thing for you guys too? I know Ive been having that exact issue with the Iron hands champ skin.
>>568792795>any difficulty levels but the ballbreakers give minimal, if any rewards and your grind to level your weapons now is a matter of daysGreat
It's like the game knows you're playing assault so it spawns 2 Neuros.
>>568793183Fligger I have played this game for about a week.>I've prestiged 3 times and closing in on my fourth>I've gotten and fully mastered basically every weapon I want> I got two heroics I'm 100 Doritos from the third and last one.The only way I see grind being a problem is if you have a ADHD mindset that prevents you from committing to a play style. Find a weapons load out you like and stick with it.
KPISAHard Weekly, if anyone is up for it, I have been banging my head on this thing for the last couple days, I hate these hellbrute cunts
>>5687952022/3
>>568795202What classes and what loadouts you got?
>>568795554We have a Tactical P4 and a Vanguard P4. but I can adapt to anything, I have everything maxed out
>>568795501Is it just me or that chat is disabled?
>>568795657Chat might be broken, I do not see your messages
>>568795742I can't even bring up the screen despite pressing O, oh well.
>>568795814Fucking SaberYou can try rejoining, might fix it
>>568795907Nah its cool, sometimes it works but most of the time it doesn't ever since this new update rolled out.Try typing something, if I can see your chat its all good.
>>568796001Tell me if you want to try with a random or if you prefer to wait a bit more
>>568796129Your call, if its a random just make sure he's not low level.
>>568796197Let's take a gamble then
>>568796262That's weird, there's 20k players now and you're obviously from Yurop yet no one's joining...
>>568796501I'll try to remake the lobby, it might be bugged
>>568796537NTA but if you have a free spot, I'll boot up and join (I'm a recent REJOOOOOINER, so I'm rusty as fuck)
NBZZMNew Lobby, same Hard Weekly
>>568796683expired
>>568796648A Brother is always welcome
>>568796765He just left, come right back in.
>>568796683Yep, expiredI can try and host?QCYHZ
>>568796814Expired
>>568796914Full, actually.
>>568796939Oh great I joined the first guy, left his lobby because you made a new one because he wants to leave too and now its full.
>>568796997This is confusing.GKGB9 has a spot open now.
>>568795202The code brought me in a different lobby somehow, I'll try rehosting 4BEHE
in the last 30 absolute i seen 2 heavy 1 vanguard 0 snipersnice game
>>568797084No one wants to play Sniper 50 times especially if they're max prestige already.Saber is tone deaf and should have minimized cape grind to like 10 per class.
>>5687970782/3
>>568797078We're all here, join here we're at 2/3 or host should just find a random.
>>568797078Expired, or you're full. Guess I'll grind some baby levels with randoms and level my other classes
>>568797398Yeah we're full, sorry, it got messy
>>568797496It is what it is at the what it is factory
What chapter
>>568797216>>568797084Before the update I had the impression that 50% of /sm2g/ players mained snipers.
>>568795646>Tactical and a vanguard vs hellbrutes Too light needs something heavier like a bulwark heavy or tech
>>568797908BT
>>568797084I main sniper but the hit boxes for Chaos are fucked and I can't respec out of the Heroic Bolt sniper.
>>568797939That's because the old Ruthless scaled well with the Las Fusil.As Lethal and Absolute crept up the main Sniper weapons didn't and he became a cloaking Vanguard.
>basic bitch pyrecannonIs this the heavy meta or what
It's another episode of chaos absolute with vanguard glued to execute button when i am desperate for execution to restore my fucking armor
>>568799416What class? You the tactical from earlier?
>>568799352no and the cannon is it's weakest weapon but the class remains gigashit
>>568799731:(
The Bulwark sucks, died before even the first Terminus.
Almost got it, ggs, better luck next time Brother
No, thx. This is such a dogshit on anything but bulwark and i wanna my tact cape.
>>568801463Can't get executions?
>>568799416>It's another episode of chaos absolute with vanguard glued to execute buttonLiterally me but for every class :)
>>568801560I like stalker bolt rifle now and go headpoping from range.
>>568799352Its the best Heavy can do which is about 1/10th of what Tact can do.
>Radiating Impact can kill Tech Priests in SiegeYou gotta be fucking kidding me.>>568799352Heavy meta is the HPI. The flamer is good, it's just inexplicably inferior to the regular Pyreblaster on Tactical (iirc it has worse range and perks). Multi-Melta is pretty decent and the Heavy Bolter is okay, I guess. The only weapon that is truly irredeemable dogshit on Heavy is the HBR which was only given to him for the sake of consistency with the tabletop. HBR is a Tactical and Techmarine weapon, don't use it on Heavy unless you really want to do some gimmicky shit.
>>568801463This is literally the most piss fucking easy mode passive there is you pleb
>>568803589I would expect them to give fencing when using heavy bolt rifle as heavy.
>>568805953No, the only weapon that gives Heavy a fencing parry window in the heroic Heavy Bolter. Everything else is balanced. Maybe one day they'll rework the class and there will be a reason to take the HBR on him.
>>568778038>10k is afk tier>as if he was thereYou sound like a pretentious faggot. Over Space Marine 2. How do you reach that point?
>ally once again would rather die than heal his mortal wound with the medicae he's carrying
>>568807079Lamenter?
>>568806120Considering cosmetics, IRL Gays Workslop models, lore and the multiple successful ops that Talasa and Veridian complete the Iron Halo should be universal across all classes.Give the Heavy a Gravis integrated grenade launcher that fires like a Terminator rocket pod. Add a heavy grav-gun, Volkite Culverin, Autocannon, etc.
>>568807142With how many ops they've done, just deck them all out in Terminator armor at this point. Fuck, they've all got the crucix for it anyway
>>568807253Titus ended a massive Chaos invasion and all he got was a meme helmet with gold laurels.Didn't even get an Iron Halo and Artificer armour.
>>568807253>>568807558Scarce resources. Small family Imperium. Please understand....
the hard weekly is anti-randomsyou cannot complete it with randoms since randoms including yourself only care about (you)also filters out shitters aka faggots who die before the first terminus spawnsome regions are clearly superior than others, it must suck being in ded regions aka everyone not in north america and western europe
Just witnessed a neurothrope killing off 6 randoms before i could finally kill itwhat a fucking mess
>>568807125deathwatch black templar
>>568807972I have completed it at least three times with randoms.
>>568808619It's the most RNG weekly yet. I've done it twenty-ish times at this point and won four times.
>>568809510It highlights the dogshit target priority enemies have in this game.>both helbrutes and an extremis just randomly choose to attack one of three players
>>568809818Russian misery coded into the game.
>>568809818AFAIK it's based on your damage output, so if you suddenly start magdumping the Helbrute while the other two players are stuck on the defensive then the target prioritization across all the Extremis and Terminus will designate you the new bitch needing a stretched asshole.
>>568810152>This is somehow fun
The weekly is just clearly tuned to be minmaxed>Tactical doesn't bring Secure Stockpiles = wipedoesn't bring the Pyreblaster = wipedoesn't bring the heroic plasma pistol = wipe>Assault, Heavyinstant wipe, useless class for hard but alright on normal>Bulwarkdoesn't bring the currently broken 90 second auto-execute for Majoris and Extremis = wipedoesn't bring banner revive = wipebeing a shieldrush Bulwark instead of a traditional parry shock healer = wipedoesn't bring Armour Reinforcement, instead picks Advanced Conditioning = wipedoesn't bring the heroic plasma pistol = wipe>Vanguarddoesn't bring Unmatched Zeal = wipeuses Occulus, Marksman and Instigator carbine = wipedoesn't bring Fencing power axe and Melta rifle to initiate double gunstrike with double Melta rifle shot in the railyard to deal 400-500 damage against the Helbrute = wipe>Sniperdoesn't bring Pattern of Excellence and Precision Targeting = wipedoesn't bring full auto bolt carbine = wipe
>>568810438A lot of these are just tells you're shit and have nothing to do with the actual difficulty.
Bolt carbine goes brrrrt
>>568797908Space Yiffs
If one of you gets downed in a double Terminus fight you already lost, the trick is to not get downed and to split up both Terminus enemies and use the current map to your advantage. Inside the cathedral one of you niggers needs to fight the Helbrute on the second floor while one fights them in the ground floor using the pillars as natural cover. In the train section the map is so yuge niggas should stop fighting them both in one area and rolling in the same vicinity. The control platform is excellent in corraling one Helbrute while the other fights them near the entrance area.The third player not engaged against the Terminus enemies should hunt down the Extremis enemies plus all of the chaff, at 50% health the Terminus enemies will always spawn extra reinforcements and there's 2 of them so managing their health is also crucial, the third guy cannot handle double reinforcements.
>>568810779>split up both enemies that randomly change aggro and teleport around the levelyeah, i mean, yeah
>>568810779>In the train section the map is so yuge niggas should stop fighting them both in one area and rolling in the same vicinity. The control platform is excellent in corraling one Helbrute while the other fights them near the entrance area.If you start outpacing anybody in damage, one of the Helbrutes will teleport to you and double up.
W3FMXReady to get my ass blown apart by the Hellbrutes again, if anyone wants to join
>>568810152I've seen them pick me out before anyone has even fired a shot.
>>568604261the game's gameplay in general is a mistakeidk how everyone could ever think this is a base to build one. I feel like most people including me play this just for the dress up aspect, missions are a chore especially at the highest difficulty. not engaging, not a challenge I look forward to, just a frustrating chore based entirely of timing my blocks all game
Saber literally hired Leandros' voice actor just to publicly shame shortcutchads on cape farming, failing to realize that their remaining playerbase does not care about mindless grinding and just want easy cosmetics
>>568811345>implying he was not already available recording his lines for SM3
>>5688112362/3
>>568810779I had both Helbrutes target my asshole and I couldn't even leave the section where you enter the trainyard. Honestly having 5 disk cunts is worse.
>>568811345What makes this grind debacle funnier is them stating verbatim>we are not going to fix thisThere's no worse way to fire such a self-own. The only thing they achieved there was admitting grind IS a problem, but "well, blyat, grind more tovarisch".Damn Grigorenko....
Yeah doubt i can push for 50 right now thoughand Red Cape is possibly peak already
>>568811550I thought they meant they are not going to punish people or make it harder to use the cheat engine.
>>5688114923/3, thank you for the assistance brothers
>>568811734No, they meant the thresholds for specific tears in those new ordeals. They went on record long ago saying they will not penalize cheating in PvE, but they would go scorched earf if you tried doing that in PvP.
>>568811926>tearstiers, mb I'm tired
Stop sleeping on the full auto Bolt Carbine. Literally puts a Rubric into incap with wild bodyshotting and only vague headshots in like 2-3 seconds.
What chapter should I make my assault?
>>568812176The bolt carbine is the only gun in this game that actually feels good to use.
>>568810779>He spawns helbrutes anywhere but the corridor of deathImagine such luck and RNG gifts
>>568812176It's good but its not as good as the carbine right now.
>>568812081np brother, i'm esl and had no trouble understanding you
>the next class is gonna be apo- ACK!!!Shut up, hover boys are the next class.
>>568810779>Teleport slams your asshole cutely
>>568812751It's going to be Librarian.>WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
They should give assault the dagger so you can use the power gladius on the jump pack dodge buildoh boy that'd be peeeeeeak
>>568812751ah yes, the strike witch brothersno, they won't do that, even assault barely functions as it is
>>568812751>hovering mechanic>in PvENot to break your bubble there, Brother. But do you honestly believe Saber would make the effort to rework *all* maps in the PvE just for one class? When people complained (rightfully I might add) assault's hovering doesn't work the same way in PvE as it does in Campaign devs politely said the maps for co-op are designed differently and that would require a tremendous amount of time and effort to let you hover freely in co-op..No, it's much easier to add earth-bound class. And since Apothecary is the most upvoted requested class, there's no other I see them adding.
>>568813058In an old interview they said they weren't gonna add Librarian.
It's going to be Apothecary because there are like three reasons for it to happen more than anybody else.>One of the first ideas marked as a must have on the Focus site, up there with lens colors.>Devs have went on record saying they hate banner heal on Bulwark because he's meant to be the armor sustainer, but have left it as is because there's no other way to implement that kind of healing right now.>The entire cHP rework is likely in part because they don't want a healer class to be the exclusive source of HP recovery, and so are probably making a new health system where everybody can innately recover back to full through skilful gameplay. Apothecary will just boost your ways to heal.
>>568812751ngl it was galaxybrain move to make players stop expecting bulwarks to have the healing perk by normalizing people being low level in all threat levels because of prestige
>>568813952>where everybody can innately recover back to full through skilful gameplayThe skillfull gameplay in question: >>568801463
GG folks
>>568814121kinowish i had a cape
>>568813952The game has every class support the others in some way. Bulwark is already a heal/rez bot, that other one with the healing on executions is a thing. This game doesn't need a dedicated healer that thay needd to rework CHP over. It's fucking dumb.
GG Brothers, the double DOUBLE Hellbrute at the railyard was brutal but we slaughtered them, FOR THE EMPEROR
>>568814121Kino, my beakie Brother
>>568814701One of the most popular classes in WWZ is the medic, it's happening. People love to be a support bitch.
>>568814745>play techmarine>don't melee at all>eat shitmany such cases
>>568814640>>568814745GG. We did it despite 2 super handicapped players. I was so desynced the helbrute would shoot as I was grappling and I still got hit lmao
It's going to be Chaplain as they have Leandros modelled alreadyIt's going to be the dedicated melee buffbot and will be the only class to carry 2H melee weapons as a stand-in for the Executioner
>>568814897>Class where you're forced to used Balanced to deal damageFuck that. I'll sit on my fencing power axe and settle for being a parry bitch. The only way to make Techmarine fun in melee is to get a Heroic that doesn't cockblock your gunstrikes.
>>568814745>>568814937Good job, boisWish I was there...
Woops, I forgot to censor your names. My bad.
>>568814897See >>568814937I was playing with extremely high ping, my first death was a surprised plasma shot just after activating the first turret.Second death I ate shit with a desynced plasma shot that also killed one of those guys.Third death is all on me since I was gangraped by multiple Majoris while my servogun was in cooldown and I only had a sliver of health after getting nearly raped at the podium by flying Tzaangors.
>>568593693To be fair you don't want to stagger an enemy whose head you want to DPSThat said the fact that they have 100% accuracy and are actively shooting back is reason enough to not want to do itThat doubly said having to shoot an majoris 8 times by rd15 in siege is unacceptable
>>568814937the last fucking hellbrute throwing a 3 points BIDEN BLAST and killing you both was evil as shit, but we persevered
>>568814937>those latenciesI hope you Brothers had an astropath watching over you. Still, good job lads. Congrats.
>>568814937>250+ pingAssuming you're German you shouldn't be playing with Asians/Aussies/LAfags
>>568811273>Don't have remotely the depth of customization or stat bullshit of a "souls like">Still implement annoying enemies with dreadfully long melee combos like the mutalithDo they even play their own game
>>568815054You were there in spirit, Brother
>>568814690>>568814861Thank you crosephs, I've been fiending to finish an old-school RG shadow captain for ages.
What the fuck is First Reddit Guardsman smoking by insisting the Plasma Incinerator is good to the point of ranking it A-tier? It's abysmal.
>>568814892>Overhaul CHP>Add new healing item>People want a healing classAll 3 things at once will over adjust things In a direction they don't like and they'll go 5 steps back and it'll be completely shit in a brand new way again, like with every other retarded thing they've done
Why don't goldtards just play Celestial Lions? At least then they'd be lore accurate goldtards.
>>568816270Implying they know they exist at all. Now I want to make a CL with the space wolf head
>>568815784Caw caw Brother, I would love to go doing crow shit to the enemies of the imperium together
The Carnifex is genuinely a poorly designed enemy and the more I fight it in the battle arena the more obvious this becomes.>Has two variations of all of its melee attacks>One that's on reaction>One that's delayed by roughly 2 seconds>There's almost zero way to differentiate between the two beyond a person's ability to react flawlessly, which becomes harder in a horde scenario>Can instantly enter an unblockable charge with a very blatant broken animation, after a leap and it releases its claws from the ground, the attack is near-instant with little warning>Can and does repeatedly dig its claws, MAKE the firing sound of its back gunk cannons, but never fires anything, and then undigs its claws, repeatedly fakes the player out when they're fighting the horde
>Buy IH champion skin>anons on here bitch about me using exclusively the campion skin as is and not putting my own spin on it.>Ok fair enough I make my own custom armor set using the champ skin parts>log on today to see my set glitched out and now all skin parts are removed and I'm just wearing the default set with IH colors.>Doesn't have this problem when I just wear the full set.And that's why you have people who don't part from the champion skins.
>>568817324And remember, the reason it doesn't stagger when gunstriked is because they never even bothered making an animation for it so it just never staggers aside from when colliding with a wall during a charge, and even that is inconsistent.And somehow it's spine bunker attack is the most powerful thing it can do
>>568816270>Celestial Lion>Blue Sergeant markingsUh oh a secondary.>>568816376It doesn't look good to be honest with you.
>>568817423I think this happens if you create/edit an armor set and don't exit the game by quitting from the menu (slavcode is powerful)
>>568817324The Carni is the one enemy in this game I refuse to face in melee. I won't go near the fucking thing unless it retard slammed its head against the wall and is knocked out.
>>568817324Nah, chaos spawn are up there too. you fight five of them in the arena and you'll quick start seeing the problem with them>kill dozens of them just fine>all of a sudden one wave will decide all three at once will drop their 6 piece kfc combos on you to the point it's impossible to respond to all of them and then you just die
>>568816931I'm around, but be warned I'm on OCE ping.
>>568818047I know Sergeants are black helmetsthis is a Lieutenant
>>568817646I don't know, it kinda fits, although I don't like helmetless in general much. Also pretty good damage with the auto bolt rifle, the recent buff to bolters is a godsend
is the heroic burst bolt pistol good?
