News:>Welcome to Season 2https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>Rook Bloodlust Updatehttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_9_1>Season 2 Cinematic Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1i801SDrJA>Youtube and Twitter:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGamehttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/Previous:>>568399901
Bungie lied, Destiny died
>>568681535Thank god
>>568681535>Lets get to an 11+ hour stream to shart and fart in a huge melty about it.What causes this form of mental illness? Battered wife syndrome?
>>568681809A combination of stockholm syndrome and sunken cost from all the time they wasted on the game
Part of me wishes to have idle shell chatter akin to vermintide, but it'd probably be a pain in the ass to have someone wittering away in your ear while you're trying to listen for footsteps. Perhaps a PVE mode thing?
>>568681956The idle chatter doesn't really fit in games where the soundscape is very important to identifying threats and other elements. I think the current system with the communication wheel is already plenty enough and there's also enough variety to be able to identify who is talking and why.
>>568681809What ethnicity is that? He is so ugly, and yet I can't pinpoint why. His face is uncanny.
>Use magnum>Feels great to shoot bots with>Try to fight a player with it>Can never land a single shot with it>For some reason it's a schema only and never spawns in lockers so can never practice with itPlease Bungie I need to get my pistol practice in before Sentinel drops
>>568682079a few small ones would be nice, at least for rezzing.
>>568682262the magnum is bad for pvp because people are hard to hit. ifs great for pve because its ammo efficient and can be suppressed.
>>568682203He is Filipino and Mexican mix
>>568682203American
>>568682203Some United States La Creatura likely being enough of a mix of like six different ethnicities down the genetic tree. The issue with figuring out is that the entirety of the US is such a ridiculously high concentration of mixed blood that it becomes almost possible to figure out the exact heritage. Considering his looks, he might as well be Samoyedic, but in true US fashion he might just have Latin American dad and mystery meat mother.
>>568672956Bungie expecting player retention where there's no mode to just zone out and grind but be slaved to doing incredibly tedious contracts with two other tards or having to lfg kinda kills the fun a bit It'd be like if Helldivers was locked only at level 10 difficulty and you only extract with the samples/credits/medals you pick up rather than the team
>>568682815why do you want to zone out and grind? is your time not valuable?
>>568683103Whose gonna tell him playing video games is a waste of time?
>>568682815>there's no mode to just zone out and grindThere is, it's called Rook. The only thing you don't get out of Rook runs is contract progress, which is fine in the future as they're decoupling contract progression from faction progress, same with materials grinds for baseline stat functionality. Will there be some luxury upgrades in the faction tree? Likely, but will they be necessary unless you're going an extra mile? Likely not. It's already like this at the end of S1, so in S2 even with just the Cradle and priority contract changes even the blackest gorilla nigger can make progress by going into N.Marsh as a Rook and just picking up garbage and exfilling. What you're essentially asking is a complete removal of the PvP aspect in hopes of thinking it would attract some magical unicorn that just loves picking up garbage in maps designed around team PvPvE. Will it happen at some point? Maybe, but it wouldn't be Marathon. You could go play unfinished games like Forever Winter or maybe Gray Zone if your entire life hinges upon just fucking around on maps without a single ounce of stakes thrown above your head.
>>568683184having a job and a gf makes me reevaluate my time spent gaming. i want to have FUN playing games. i dont want to do work in them. i play marathon to get into cool fights.
>>568683354>values his time>plays extraction shooters[X] Doubt
>>568683273The thing is the only real challenge and difficulty in the game is killing other players and there's no other to reason but to gear out for max pvp and the same stale meta So everything else takes a backseat to that which is kinda lame considering even Rooks kill other Rooks and they have nothing to lose
>>568683472i dont play tarkov anymore specifically because i DO value my time. there is not 'spend 10 mins building a kit + 5 mins loading + 15 mins of walking or crawling + 10 seconds of combat + 2 mins to load back to menu' in marathon.
>>568683354>Cool fights
>>568683707>real challenge and difficultyThese aren't metrics for fun, neither are they always the full course meal. In one hand, i've found Marathon to be very casual in terms of it's barrier of entry in comparison to a lot of other games in the genre and i'll never figure why it's considered such a 'hard' game to get into.>there's no other to reason but to gear out for max pvp and the same stale metaThe gear is expendable, you might as well burn it all in three month cycles, so a lot of the gearing cycle is about grabbing what you think is cool and rolling with it. Even with the currently under-performing guns, the game isn't designed around everyone running meta equipment, neither does the meta dictate all levels of play. >So everything else takes a backseatNo. People can have very different goals and motivations to play. A couple of people from crews i frequent haven't really stepped much into Cryo outside a few vaults largely because there's solos in the mix and they enjoy playing casual matches on Perimeter-Dire Marsh-Outpost axis in Solo or Trios. Others seem really into Ranked and Cryo, so their playstyle consistently highlights improvement on that part. I'm somewhere in between, i'll play whatever i find fun and although Cryo is the pinnacle content, it still doesn't represent what i enjoy the most. My favourite time in this game was definitely the early-to-mid Season on the more open maps with larger emphasis on just finishing priority quests or just getting into shootouts. It's where i think the strongest DNA for this game really resides in. I can understand though that some people want to consider only the end-game as the only worthwhile thing, but there are plenty of those who don't so i think it would be to everyone's benefit that the game focuses the net as wide as possible in terms of making the PvP engaging at all levels of play.
>>568684748What I'm saying is that it's lame for the hardest thing in the game to face is other players especially since it just means having all sorts of different gear and mods is functional useless
even as a vandal enjoyer i do think the power slide needs a nerf. at the very least make it so powersliding multiple times generates exponential heat.
>>568685146>it's lame for the hardest thing in the game to face is other playersbut thats always going to be the case, unless you want every bot to recon and grenadier commanders.
I hope season 2 addresses the game becoming incredibly unfun after level 30
>>568685327If UESC weren't just passive noise traps with horrible weapons it'd be much better imhoThe maps are also way too tiny for the amount of players being dropped in and how loud the guns areLike seriously, why are suppressors a rare attachment
People are still cheating in the game like no tomorrow. It’s ridiculous. Something like 5/10 games.
>>568685146You make it sound like having accessories and situational tools built solely for maps like N.Marsh or situational elements wouldn't be a good idea, PvP or not? I've been saying to people almost religiously that the issue with S1 wasn't that it lacked content, rather it's issue was that it blew it's high-end content straight out the gate and thus people equate the entire gameplay experience to the higher end of the totem pole instead of the low-to-mid tier risk options. It's always better to have a larger appeal across the spectrum than laser focus on a singular group of demographics. As much as it was a meme to think all changes in S1 were done around the demands of streamers a lot of the changes made early were a knee-jerk reaction to the top players finding the early and mid game progression boring as it wasn't anywhere near a competitive as they wanted and i think from the viewpoint of the average casual, that sort of pushed the envelope to think that the entire game would be focused on that specific process, instead of ... You know? Making new maps and stuff that isn't related to Cryo all the time? I think the biggest struggle Bungie got into at the beginning of the Season had a lot to do with creating a framework where the high-end players wouldn't get into a massive melty by making sure there was new and challenging stuff to do on the weekly. Instead of that, we're now seeing the fallout of the focus on that end-game pipeline come bite the devs in the ass, as their release schedule on the more widely appealing content comes after what could be considered a very rocky launch in terms of player retention.
>>568686048Well mainly the fact for me is that it only really makes one type of engagement (pvp) the only thing that feels exciting or dangerous in the entire half hour matchAnd that's like what? Maybe two to three firefights that actually matter while everything else is basically plinking range targets and rooting around in trash cans?
>>568686606I think it's just the fact that the loop needs to be more exciting across the board, not to mention less punishing in the on-boarding and scavenging/contract progress. This already removes one layer of people feeling like they waste time and also helps that lower rung of the ladder feel that they're making progress, even in the case they get gunned down by a bunch of Arachne skinners. I think the emergent gameplay on the maps (both PvE and PvP) must play a key role in that equation. Currently if you look at practically all four maps in the game, each requires a bit of a different approach and have different objectives, so having something like Night time variants and a constant changes in the map ecosystems already introduce layers and layers of systems that will help that along. If you don't enjoy the genre at all, then there is practically nothing that can be done for the game without turning it into some scuffed looter shooter.
>>568685858How do you even notice someone is cheating?
>>568687445Everyone who kills you is cheating.
>>568687445You gain an eye for it by the time to kill. If it’s too quick and they’re on you, you can just tell. Also if there’s just zero hesitation of zoning in on you. I had a teammate before perched on top of Perimeter, team from the tunnels immediately know where he’s peeking from and down him and us with snipers. All of us were hiding on the roofs of North Relay, no one can see that.
>>568682203He's an asiolatinx o algo. I look like this btw.
>>568689216>All of us were hiding on the roofs of North Relay, no one can see that.Drone-kun can...
>>568681809Marathon is causing recordbreaking clitty leaks. It's admirable.
>game is so dead it takes minutes to get into a cryo mapBruh
I just realized that Sentinet's prime can be used against the tox warden.
>>568682262I've seen it multiple times in lockers wtf
I wonder what this means.
What happened to the wstr? I hit someone at point blank twice, two head shots, I don’t even think their purple shields broke.
>>568693473From left to right>MIDA phone call>Wifi router reset (unbanned, Jannie’s can’t counter)>televiv missile redirect
>>568693739It no longer two taps above green shield. The entire point was to make it so that those still using the gun at point-blank can still unload it in some knife fuckers face and still win the fight with a single swing of their own. It's even better with sucker punch or the mod that gives it three shot. At that point, it still melts someone.
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>>568693473>pips>rotating cube>orangeWho knows, we'll find out soon enough.
>>568685376>I hope season 2 addresses the game becoming incredibly unfun after level 3090% of free week noobs are gonna get stomped out fast, so you're gonna get turbo sweats regardless of level
>>568693473>>568695213The pips are amount of anti greniggers and bubbleniggers left in the trophy system so you can keep track.
>>568685376They're giving everybody free purple kits at the start of the season lol. Season 2 will be cancer from the beginning.
>>568696412makes sense. everyone bitches about how slow and shitty you are with white or no implants.
>>568696412Aren't those just like a one time or req slip? Like you get a certain amount of them and then they're gone. I also think that no kits will get purple shields from the start with likely blues being the absolute maximum. There's also the fact that if you lose the kit, it's already a bump up to someone's gear level as it'll likely contain a bit better meds, guns and maybe some throwables?
Now that's an interesting bug. I tried queuing fill with it and unfortunately it just disappeared during queue.
>Previously reported as having sold 1.2M copies by March 24, Marathon is now reported to have sold 1.5M as of today, May 29>According to estimates, Marathon has sold ~300k copies in the last 2 monthsthere's no way this is rightif it is, that's bad
>>568699967>A game is only good depending on the amount of salesbased retard>inb4 "THATS NOT WHAT I SAID" we all know what you mean
>>568700337if its a game you dont like then low sales mean bad game and high sales mean slop.
>>568699967>Reddit spacing>TroonEra>sales postingQuick, you can still fit in a daily thread on /v/ and /pol/007 just came out, dont forget to call it “woke” on /v/
>>568701096It isn't usually like this most of the time. Some franchises just move copies like crazy and certain games have staying power solely due to their genre. Others sell more in a niche category. I can think of plenty of JRPGs (even really good ones) that have pretty bad sales, same with entry level sales that were complete piss and shit. To put these sales in perspective of overall copies moved, it's around the same ballpark as Stalker 2 when it first released. I just don't see the point of looking at the overall units sold, as there will never be millions of players for Marathon until it gains some traction.
I am not a sore loser per se, but anyone who played ranked and got levels in that should be banned until next season's ranked is up.>play rook>mind my own business>get tripple fucked by a team who beelined it to me because i fought a commander in some asshole of a locationReilly?>all ranked players
>>568702965cry about it rook boi
>>568702965your a rook, you dont have rights. you're a beggar with a gun.
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/season_2_combat_tuning_preview
>>568704021Overrun and CE Combat Sidearm buffed.
>>568703171>beggar>RookAfter some upgrades and buffs, Rook is no beggar.>>568703127Its a free kit, so what is there to cry about? Maybe its the teams that gun them are crying because they got fuck-all of a loot out of one?
I still haven't gotten the WSTR for the Rook. Arachne is hard to both level and upgrade.
>>568704545>aim assist>bullet magnetismHardcore game my ass.>aim bot on controllers and consolesPlease fuck off.If there is one thing that i should spill my ire on in Marathon, its the fact that its a shit game on account of those three things but they market it as "hardcore".
Is there a downside to having the LMG shield mod enabled?
Playing a lot more cryo now that gear doesnt matter and desu, it's a really bad map...I'd much rather go into Marsh without a sniper than do cryo with gold bully and gold misriah and 6 frag grenades and 9 signal jammers and 9 energy amps
>>568704545Bye, bitch.
>>568705293the shield doesnt recharge, even when you put a new shield on. you should only turn it on if you are getting in a player fight, even then you may want it off because it is fairly bright and easy to see.
>>568705653So it has limited durability per run per weapon? Interesting.
>>568705380ranked is closed now, right? Feel like I should have tried a couple of runs solo for the hell of it, but I'd already written off cryo completely after the first weekend
>>568705793i think the shield health is tied to the gun, not the shield mod.
https://youtu.be/Gk781Z0ErmA
>>568706160just give thermal sights a fixed battery life.
>>568706160Finally. People actually need to get spotted and weather works in disfavor for snipers now...
>>568705810Yeah, I managed to extract twice but it was too much and teammates were getting really pissed because I didnt know the map so I didnt bother trying for silver or gold lol.>>568706160Good. Now just need to hear they removed bubble shield.
>>568706432>Now just need to hear they removed bubble shield.Sorry, nothing. But there is new stuff.
>>568704545>ce pistol ads accuracy error reduced by 50% so THATS why it was so awkwardly inaccurate.
>>568706268Yep, it's a no brainer, there's even already a precedent for it with lmg shields. You should only be able to have them enabled for like 5 seconds continuously, before they have to recharge. So you use them to quickly sweep over an area to scan for people, or momentarily flip them on to shoot through smoke and fog when you know someone's there.
>>568704021>overrun improved recoilActually kind of exciting. I stopped using the Cyac sponsored kits after one too many wild swings when going for headshots. >stack overflow and sniper thermals temporarly removedCrazy.
>>568705620>chipsAre there gold ones?>weapon builds>chips are software that does seemingly impossible thingsPurge that shit out of the game entirely.Either proper hardware mods, or fuck off. Stench of hero shooter bullshit is right there.
>When you take splash damage, your Hardware, Firewall, and Self-Repair Speed are increased for a short time.This seems pretty useless.
>>568706160Its like they are retarded on purpose>thermal scopesMake them obey physics ffs.>runner overheated>glows like a christmas tree in thermals>runner at 0 heat>unless within 30 metres can barely see one>metal heated on the sun masks heat signatures>heat grenades and flares spoof/mask heat signatures>fog blurs out signatures and thermals work worse in fog>rain obscures signaturesHow fucking hard is it to "cook" that?>cookI hate that word in the context they are using.
>>568705653>>568705793The shields do recharge, you have to the drop the gun to make it work. It must be a bug they never addressed, hopefully it's in the next patch.
Ornithologist is…liked?
>>568707960I believe that's sarcasm.
>>568707354The self repair speed is nice but the other stats are pretty useless honestly. Really only worth it if you're getting nade spammed by a team>>568707960Actually made me mad to read>We know you are sick of only using a small handful of actually worthwhile chips>so instead of gutting or reworking the shit ones, we're taking one of the most useful ones away and adding more garbage meme ones in to dillute the loot pool lolLike most of the other changes make sense and are sensible, this is just a waste
Implants almost completely reworked.
>>568706694>and a new alliance is formedHow fucking often you see that shit happen in the game that gaslights you into killing other runners/teams without second thought?
>>568702287>To put these sales in perspective of overall copies moved, it's around the same ballpark as Stalker 2 when it first releasedStalker 2 was honestly a big flop and rugpull compared to the previous game. Not a good look when that is your comparison. Not to mention the huge bloated budget for Marathon and bigger team size compared to some Ukranians working for 10 dollars an hour in poland or wherever the fuck.
>>568707729>How fucking hard is it to "cook" that?They likely don't have a particle and range oriented system in place for even considering this. On one hand i sort of understand them wanting to have a reliable way for countering smokes and invisibility with optics, but it never should have been a thing on the longest range guns in the game that have 1-2 hit K.O potential. This will also increase the value of smokes in just countering ranged snipes, as you either have to push into the smoke or get into a range where thermals are at their peak. The coolest part is that they didn't mention the regular thermal optics getting the treatment so the CQC, mid-range options and DMRs will still retain valuable amount of anti-smoke options. Overall i don't think that thermals should ever return on extreme ranged high damage guns and rather keep the Thermal/IR and other vision options on the mid-range/long range rifles to give them a role in spotting, which currently really isn't needed as snipers just fulfill both roles without much issue.
Bonus Magnum changes from Reddit.
>>56870918941 damage on a pistol? Christ.
>>568710073This removes a green shield on a bodyshot.
>>568709189fuck yeahhhhh
>>568687445>A player 1v3s my whole team >We're all on different levels of dorms >Even after rotating, they still know where we will peek from>They kill my last teammate while I drop down and rotate from roof to the ground floor.>They insta peek me and shoot me from the roof when I didn't even run while I rotated>Check their profile and they are LVL 25 to our 200s>Their steam account is only days old with only marathon playedNobody else on their team even shot at us.
>>568710527Are you surprised? Thats how cheaters work.
>>568710740Well, he was asked how does one know if someone is cheating.
>>568710740Lol read the thread bud
>>568708628Once or twice if a fight reaches a lull where we both know where each other are but there's no clear advantage, prox chat works out and we have just agreed to fuck off.
>>568707354kinda depends on duration I feel, if it works for like 30+ seconds, that could actually give you a pretty substantial boost for a fight. Like you eat a claymore to start, and can get back into the fight faster, or take a chem grenade - it does less damage because you have a higher hardware stat so you can go through it and be aggressive with less of a disadvantage than others. Or the frost mine thing.Then again because the game has no firing range it's really hard to tell if that's even how hardware works, or if it really just decreases the duration shit lasts on you. The only part of that I'm sure about is self-repair making you use healing items faster.
>>568712146How many cases like that have happened in your runs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9rMu1XYB98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaNQ_uePFkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQKX07MlVjghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vurgeAkIxYWho hyping themselves up for season 2?
>>568713045In trios, three times I'm pretty sure. In Solos it's more common with bullet proof glass and a fight not even starting, probably somewhere in the 10-20 range. I feel like it became more common as the season went on for people to actually be open to prox chat/not just desperately trying to kill each other.
>>568713095I don't need external materials for that. The daily info we've been getting is enough. Looking forward to the next roadmap.
>>568713095Me and my wife's son are excited
>>568713095Im not. Even with all these changes, i probably will skip the season. Im glad i did not buy anything other than the game itself. Battlepiss and shop can go to hell.Wasted potential.
>>568713404>Daily info>External materialsthese are reviews of the old games
>>568713463Well, I've already reviewed the first one by playing. I think it sucks ass. Maybe it was great by standards of when it came out, but it didn't age well at all. And either way, the gameplay of the old games has almost nothing to do with the current Marathon, so that would do nothing to hype me up. But I did read another anon say that maybe we'll get to go to another planet from the series in the future, which is a really cool idea.
>>568713809Oh so you're just a secondary nigger. Thank you for clarifying that I should disregard everything you say.
>>568714012If I'm a secondary, then there are a lot more secondaries ITT that you need to worry about.>Thank you for clarifying that I should disregard everything you say.Good luck with that, this is an anonymous imageboard.
The Cradle has a total of 84 pips, 6 rows of 14 (7*2). Stat upgrades don't scale, each costs 1 worm always. I wonder what the max level will be. I doubt they'll let the player have all the stats maxed out. Maybe 65, since that bar has the VIP color. But it's still not full, which is interesting. Maybe it'll be some other multiple of 7, which 65 isn't.
>>568715194So this is gonna be the new permanent stat unlock system instead of getting upgrades from the rep trees?
>>568717735They'll probably touch it up too, but yes, no more stat upgrades on faction trees.
>>568717829HOORAY
>>568717829It felt kind of silly too in most cases. The amount of stuff that was behind material grinds was stupid. On one hand it did promote a series of localized competition for specific things, but at ít's worst it just felt stupid especially when there was a lot of RNG and time involved in the blue materials. I still think it could stay as a nice touch to leave the more oriented stuff like Traxus gun barter unlocks, keystone upgrades and the faction specialties into the tree as they actually are meaningful upgrades that you'll keep through the season and likely the stuff that you get each season could also change quite a bit. Like say Bully SMG goes out of "manufacture" and KKV or maybe BRRT is something that can be unlocked off the tree this season.
I don't want to 'waste' my gear, even though it's an even bigger waste to keep them in my vault until reset. How do I stop being retarded?
>>568720194Bro, you've got 4 days, use it or lose it.
>>568720568It's more like Use it & Lose it Either Way.
>>568720194It feels nice to not have to worry about even the more expensive stuff. I'm also burning creds to all the shit i've got as schemas. It's a fun time to just go on whatever map you prefer and put all that stuff to use, win or lose.
How are you supposed to loot algae office without being raped?
>>568721513Patience.
>>568721513>Hide in nearby room>Wait until round timer is between 8 to 3 minutes>Open office>Map is (almost) entirely deserted now save for you and maybe one, two players who are lord knows whereIt's still risky, just less so.
>>568721513Rape them first
>everyone is so hyper-aggressive and bloodthirsty at end of season that I don't even hear exfils even being called anymore in most of my matches
>>568720194Just dont use it? Let it sit there. Atleast it is a collection you can appreciate and admire. Like items in a museum.
>>568721869I claymored every entrance and sat there with a shotty watching the staircase for 10 minutes and some asshole still somehow managed to come inside in dead silence, without any explosion, door opening, vent or window breaking or anything, and raped me by surprise
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2060436009599332384
>>568724062My unfiltered shit opinion is that Dire Marsh was my favourite map and Night Marsh will be cool too. Sure, D.Marsh has it's issues in terms of certain things being retarded (Thermal snipers) but it's currently the only open map where you can also get into gunfights outdoors where you aren't kissing your enemies on the lips.
>>568724612I want at least one map that is so large that the timer isn't enough to roam the entire site.
>>568687445A lot of them really like running the gold BRRT, instabursting a full clip of headshots, downing you so fast you’ll think you got one tapped by a mizzy til you look at the kill feed.
>>568725594Fun idea but that's never going to happen. At most you can expect current maps to get shorter timers, for whatever reason.
>thermals removed on snipers for season 2
>snipers removed for all video games
>>568727083>Equip Thermal on Night Marsh>Win every single fucking fight guaranteed nowmaybe it's a good thing.
>>568727283kek
>>568727083>>568727283>gameplay removed from all games
>>568727617Thankfully we're starting the season fresh with purple rarity thermals and not having people hoard all the ones they had
They should remove aim assist and bullet magnetism entirely from the game.>bully has 2.47 degree aim assist>brrt has 2.44>M77 has 1.96Gee, no wonder why those are being used so much.>copperhead has 1.4>SideArm has 1.53>Punch has 2.02Also, why not round them and have .02 or .96 or such.>Repeater has 1.01>Hardline has 1.01Seriously, what gives.
>>568728039I think it's both Bungie's "gimmick" and what they are known for since the Halo days and they don't want to disenfranchise their console players. Trying to shoot with sticks and no AA is kind of aids.>t. former console bab
>>568728039>and haveinstead of having*I should proofread my posts ffs.>>568728968I played Quake 2 and a bunch of other shooters on PS1 and PS2. No aim assist. Yes, its kinda cancer, but to tout the game as "hardcore" when it has aim assist and aim bot is just bullshit. They should've kept Marathon to consoles then, if they want to keep that shit in.>can use hardware hacks and get aim bot on PC tooAll players who cheat in multiplayer deserve to have their hands ripped out right off the shoulder sockets.
>>568728039It's a cone of effective range, so obviously the weapon classes and types don't go to a 1-to-1 ratio. Meaning largely that on controllers the guns with tons of recoil and low range tend to have very forgiving cones, while every pad player gets less overall aim assist on the upper end of their weapon range. For MNK the cones largely affect bullet magnetism (or more appropriately, bullet size) so the cones mean jackshit outside what could be considered a weapons upper end range, which also doesn't matter all that much because mouse users can actually fine aim without assist on any range even if it's outside the weapons cone range.
This is all that we saw of the zombies in that video. Not impressive.
>>568729712Wonder whether they'll spawn off the player corpses in-match and then multiply?
>>568729291who fucking cares dude
>>568729712It's only one of the new type of biological enemies, is supposed to have 3 variants. One is this explosive biomass, the other one is a possessed runner and the third one is an ethereal shadowy thing with red eyes
>>568729291Quake 2 on controller must have been something.
>>568731809Do the possessed runners use their guns wildly like STALKER zombies?
>>568730416>be the best sweat there is>wipe the lobby to do your EZ PZ DAD CONTRACT>unlimited Bobs spawn off the corpses of your fallen enemies and home in on you from all over the map
If season 2 and the free week don't bring in players, is this game genuinely just going to be over? Sure its not going to die right away but it feels like this is the last real hurrah and if it doesn't go anywhere, why would Sony not flush this?
>>568735330Who knows.
>Just lost all my purple shields and my best weapons in runs with randomsI LOVE COMMUNITIES FILLED WITH SHITTERSCOULDN'T GET ENOUGH OF THAT IN DESTINY
Got carried again.
>>568735330Copium>The F2P week will start and finish before the PvE queue arrives, the thing Bungie is building to bring more players in>and even then it's just an experimental queue and not the real thing. a finalized and improved PvE experience will arrive later, Sony is aware of this>The fact that Director Joe mentioned season 5 in the learnings blog post implies that Sony have given them a year's time to get the game up and running. there will be more opportunities for players to come in, this likely won't be the only F2P week marathon hasBlackpill>people who think it's just the destiny team who's getting laid off are deluded - marathon being worked on by 400 devs is utterly unsustainable and they're gonna get cut down hard, which will obviously impact the recovery attempt>bungie leadership has proven to be very reactionary, for all we know they could pull the plug on marathon before sony does>the game's initial budget is insurmountable either way, it'd have to do arc raider numbers to be a success and that's just not gonna happen, especially not with a non-existent the console userbase
I play solo and stealth and i don't kill players. I let them know i'm there and then run about and follow them and keep freaking them out by making running noises for a few seconds around the buildings they are in. Thats my fun.
>>568724062>>568727083Maphacks are going to run the show so goddam hard here.
>>568735330I don't think you really comprehend just how impossible it is to fund ongoing work on this game with anywhere near the numbers they have. The game is turbofucked, will never make money, will probably generate losses for it's entire life. They would need some massive AAA develompent budget class remake to even have a chance at turning things around. Realistically this lasts until they figure out a better plan for what the fuck they want bungie to do.
>>568738613Lost the vault 5 key. Easy come, easy go.I must say, the difference between me and most other people playing Cryo is staggering. I must be one of the lowest level remaining players. And the fact that I'm generally inexperienced in FPS doesn't help.
>The only friend I ever made on Marathon>Hasn't played Marathon since early AprilIt's over
>>568742438He'll come back for Season 2, but he needs your help. It's up to you to let him know to start sprinting in the Marathon™ again.
>>568740308Well, PvE mode for solo/co-op would go a long way considering they dont have anti-cheat and considering that this game devolves to PvP.
>>568742629He fucking hated Dire Marsh, I don't see how setting it at night is going to change his mind.
>>568742438>runs away from marathon>stuck trying to escape from tarkov
Call me names if you must, but I think the TTK could do with a little nerf. Maybe buff shields and health by a bit..
surely I'll got a barter that isn't the Goddamn tac pistol or the stryder before the season ends
Fuck this, I'm going solo.Fills are a liability.
What's the best way to farm reflex coils? I need so many.
>>568742656Does it bring enough players to pay for itself? Does it drain resources from the core game? Does bungie even have the people to make a compelling PVE in the time and budget? I don't think so, but we'll get to see.
>>568743034I definitely think they could give players something like 20% more HP and the game would probably be funner for it.
https://youtu.be/iew9op9aPLQ
>>568744516Humor like this is a lost art.
>>568744516
I had fun in Cryo today. Grew accustomed to the Copperhead and the Demolisher. God, I want a firing range.
>>568746417I'm on the side that wants a social hub without the game becoming Destiny.
idk if I'm a big fan of the stryder, the fire rate seems way too slow. I guess it's a more dedicated sniper DMR than the other ones that can actually compete in close quarters fights.
>>568748139you just have to not miss and its ok in output compared to the twin tap and others, styder has high damage per bullet but yes in close quarters you should bring a smg or shotgun with it
>>568744073Its piss-easy. Boot player(s) into the map instance with no other players/teams. Its enough.>but i want PvE to be a campaign and cinematics and whatever else and contentSo? Game already has more than enough shit to do. Hell, if they want to save money they should just make an offline patch, pull the plug on multiplayer and call it a day.>but muh core gameCore game is so shit that playerbase has been declining into sub 10k peak. At this point anything is better.
>keep getting shit sekgen random missions>already out of rerollsfuuuck
Why do i find Marathon tense but enjoyable but Arc Raiders feels like i'm having a fucking panic attack?
>>568751249Because Marathon is the better game.It just needs more maps and content.
REMOVE WEAPON RARITY, I AM NOT JOKING, THIS IS NOT A BITThey spent over a decade training the gamerdads to be a hoarding dragon and develop a pavlovian response to same gun, but different colour name. Expecting the "dads of destiny" to have what you have trained them to think is the "treasure" stolen is a mistake.The point of the game is we are being sent down by corpos to stripmine a mysterious abandoned colony, those relics should be what gets treated as the "treasure" and guns should be like getting to the sniper first in Halo 3 big team battle. Fun but if you die and lose it whatever.I am objectively correct. They already had Destiny for this shit and as we have seen from stuff like Highguard younger games don't give two shits about diablo names, they were trained to bark at "SSR's" or whatever.
Where do you aim shotguns, considering they have headshot multipliers? Head, center mass, somewhere between?
>>568752336I just aim chest so maybe don't do that because I suck with shotguns
Third partied two retards fighting over Warden then cleaned it up myself. The gold scar mod is actually pretty good.
Took a maintenance canal key in, spawned at bio. I make my way over and as soon as I get near, some poor fucker opens the other locked room at maintenance. I blow him up (except there was another body in the room, so maybe I avenged the actual keyholder), loot up and then get down to canal to use my own. As soon as I open the door, there's an assassin at the other door to the right, with his back turned to me setting up a claymore on the wall. I didn't even know there was a second way in, idk why the fuck he just casually had his back turned to me. He must have known I was there and the doors didn't just suddenly open for no reason, right?Even though it's end of season it still feels weird leaving so many purples behind as a perpetual poorfag, but I was only after codex entries anyway. The only things I even took out of those two locked rooms besides collectibles was a purple shield and a bubble
>earnestly trying to use all the gear up before reset>almost wipe an entire lobby of free kits>walk out with more lootwe got into one little team fight, and once we were done healing or rezzing, we heard foot steps of another team. repeat one more time and we think that might be lobby. our recon scans again and there's the final team up on the 2nd floor. we decided to hit some 3 rooms and bounce. we had been fighting blues and purples and this last one was the designated lobby gold team.
>>568752147What weapon rarity?
>>568754316>I didn't even know there was a second way inmost key rooms have 2 ways in. some will have 2 doors and even a window. the maintenance canal can open up the big gates as well as go up into the maintenance change room.
>just casually wiped the lobby and looted vault 5 with random fillI WILL kill that floating red faggot. Just two more to go
Anyone else more excited for nighttime creatura swamp than cryos bubblefest?
What are the chances of doing fill cryo and getting a full lobby to go kill compiler since the season is over?
>>568756272Season end means everyone is bringing their top gear, since it's gonna be gone in a few days anyway.Which means a single coordinated tea, geared up to the teeth, could wipe a lobby.But uncoordinated? Doable, but tough.
>>568755915that's the spirit
>>568752147you are not the one who decides the point of the game, especially when you don't seem to actually like it.
>>568756605I hate to use Dark Souls terms but if Arachne is the equivalent of red phantomsI think NuCal or maybe SekGen should be the equivalent of white phantoms or gold phantoms. UESC can be Blue
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>>568756720its a shame they are using the tarkov way of doing factions. I really do miss when games had you CHOOSE a faction and it would make you an enemy of another faction.
>>568756807Imagine the handjobs.
>>568756034>clipfarm archivei was never excited, saw that trashfire coming a mile away
>>568756720Thinking about it, how different would this game be if it had invasions instead of open PvPvE?
>>568756851I do think it'd be cool if repping a faction at the start of a season gave you bonuses for doing contracts with them.
>>568756851Sadly modern gamers don't gel with that. You see which one starts to do better and everyone joins that one.Most famous example in recent years was FFXIV. You choose to join the pirates, wood guardians or oil barons private military but the pirates and pmc were so much more popular than the woodcucks they first start giving incentives to play as them and then made it so while doing pvp you were randomly grouped with the one doing worse and just got progress for the one people liked. Which meant loading in to a map, seeing your icon was the yellow colour not red or blue and going "well FUCK" as you watch your team throw the game due to yellow attracting the shitters.
>>568756807They won't do this but imagine one of these games using recordings + gen AI on the fly to make impersonations of your teammates saying shit to fuck with you
Somehow Dire Marsh feels more chill right now than Perimeter which is really fucking weird.
>>568756272>start out in revival>push on to the next POI>can hear footsteps, a team followed us from behind>i get a vantage point and my teammates start talking to no one>realize they're on proxy>we got a a six man formed>push to the next team>they must not have proxy on cause they start shooting>team behind us starts shooting>team behind us stops but for some reason we're still trying to talk it out with the first team>somehow lose a 6v3 in the ensuing chaoslol fun times.
>>568757172Why are modern gamers like that?
>>568757292From what a bungo leaker has said they pitched them as recording voice lines of your team and playing them back distorted like a mimic. The sell was "but only still they log out so we can't get in trouble for recording" but then someone, in tone if not the exact words went "do you remember the fortnite darth vader? we aren't having a zombie vandal running around calling people double niggers".
>>568756720i don't play dark souls, so i have no idea what the phantoms are. and even if i did. i think i would just ignore all the lore because i'm a cutscene kind of guy. I've filled my codex up but haven't read a single one
>>568757621Its because games like WoW pushed a hard, very californian gated community mindset. You don't want to be part of the riff raff, you want to be in the winners inner circle donchaknow.
>>568757660>getting called a double nigger while a 3 armed vandal runs at meb-basedo!
I think I just got killed by one of those BRRT cheaters, I got like one shot off and instantly got downed in like 0.5s
>>568757660God imagine being a streamer trying to be le srs hardcore milsim guy pretending to be scared for the clips as a CREATURE shambles by only for it to go "MAMA MIA, PAPA PIA, BABY GOT THE DIARRHHHHHEEEEAAAAAAAAAA" in microsoft sam voice.
>>568681809So does he have anything else going for him or will he have to find a proper job when Destiny is shutting down?
>>568758367Better than some, hes a more clean cut straight edge asmongold. That wierd charisma that appeals to incels will carry him along.Now Datto, who was relying on Destiny money to finish his transition to becoming a korean woman -yes this is not a joke i am deadly serious- thats not happening.The funny one is channels like houndish who were always slobs regurgitating paul tassi and just going "which is well wierd, roight?, lemme no wot u fink in da commints" those guys are going to have to find a new ip to remora to the underbelly of and start over. My guess is call of duty or back to being WoWslobs.
>>568756807uhhh did i miss something ive been on vacation??
>>568758827haha don't worry about it mate.Just... just remember your night vision scopes in Night Marsh and remember if you hear another shell talking to you do NOT answer back. Just burn some sage and say "I have a right to walk here" and continue on.
>>568758998>"I have a right to walk here"what dumb /out/ or /x/ meme am i being reminded of here?
>>568758103>BRRT cheatersi must have shit aim cause i prefer the pooperhead over the BRRT
>>568758641Looking back, I could probably count the worthwhile Destiny content creators on one hand.
>>568759485Both, its honestly funny how much of this applies to the next patch.
>>568760594Dense forest map for Marathon when?
>>568760905>quiet and serene>doing the "trump just shit his pants again" crouching duck waddle through some ferns>hear a loud SNAP of something breaking a branch>worry.png
>>568759485That's like core backwoods stuff man, there's evil shit out there.
>>568761503>He thinks they are kept out of the cities after we replaced cold iron with plastic
Do you think we'll get a proper snow biome at some point? Imagine the shenanigans you could do with footprints in snow.
>>568687445I've only encounter a few cheaters, but each time they seemingly knew exactly where to place their cross hairs before I moved into that position. Any time I revealed my position i was shot within a split second of exposure by multiple people, I think it was wall hacks.
>>568762221Have you not seen the gifs? they literally see a stickman through all terrain at all times. They just aim slightly in that direction and once they are in range and theres no terrain blocking the program pulls the trigger for you to melt them.
What if the night marsh pve combo grabs people and they pivot into another live service horror game like Dead By Daylight or Devour?
>>568762143God I hope so
Is Duo queue coming back in S2? My friend is gonna try out the free week with me.
>>568763239Outskilled
>>568763395Yeah
>>568763491Nice
>>568762882Heres what i think is coming:>PVE only mode is "crews working together">Probably going to lean into the survival aspect and load you in with nothing with an opening phase where you avoid bots and la creatura to gear up like a battle royale>Recycle Destiny public events>The longer you stay in the harder it gets>Aim is to survive to take on a Primeaval style bossBut if you can pve on night marsh and how fucking popular horror live service are for streamers i could see them replacing the destiny gamerdads with "the horror girlies".Real question is whats the pure pvp mode? can't be battle royale the engine cannot take that so you would assume arena shooter using the scrapped crucible maps they never added to destiny but who knows.
The PvE mode is going to be framed in universe as UESC Sanctioned Runners doing ops for Orion.
Bruh the cheating in this, It’s absolutely fucking out of control. I just got done at mid range by an M77 in 0.2 seconds. It’s like 50% of matches. Other extraction games must be just as bad if not worse.
>>568765243look up "the tarkov wiggle" and you will not believe what you are seeing.
>>568765243It’s so stupid that these players are like level 257 and they’ve put 500 hours in. How can you be so invested in something while ruining its integrityIt’s like being in a marriage and raping the woman every night and smacking the kidsThat other game shut down over all this, the dinosaur one
>sniped a thief out of the air with my sniper as she was trying to grapple hook awayWhere do ya think you're going lil' missy?
>>568765717Cheaters fall into two camps:>Griefers who get their fun purely by ruining someone elses good time hoping for a angry reaction to go "lol u mad bro?", tale as old as time. Cunts but they have always been around>The newer modern post digital game emotionless izzat farmer. Usually american, indian or russian and they dont care if they get banned, they dont care if the game dies. Its just about getting the high rank, the perfect k/d ratio. Because they might get noticed and uplifted by a big streamer but absolutely nothing else matters and they feel no emotions about cheating either way. Until it happens to them and they go fucking nuclear.
>free week won't have PvE>/r/Marathon is hastily tanking the game a few days before S2lol
>killed a guy who had the key for the overflow room>make my way over there>hear gunfire, see the yellow caution holo meaning warden is there>try to skulk around but make some noise because there is a crashed dropship nearby>guy on the roof pops the TAD while I'm hiding in the bathroom>get a brain blast>open my mic: "hey I'm not here to kill the warden, you can have it dude">to signal my intention I open the key room>he comes by and crouch spams in front of the safety glass>I crouch back>he goes back to fighting warden>get out with 25k profit
>>568765243This is exactly what I said would happen in this dogshit game. Even kernel level anticheats can't stop aim hacking, so every extraction shooter just becomes a hacker playground where they can endlessly victimize normal players. Bungie, in their infinite wisdom, did not see this coming and dedicated no real effort to stopping it. Tarkov already exists and it shows the inevitable trajectory of every extraction shooter.
>>568681535Faggots cried
>>568766015>if I cheat, Shroud and Ninja will notice meIs this how zoomers live
>>568766015>surely no based Allah-blessed evropvvr would ever cheat
>>568767206Yes, they live for the streamer recognition.
>>568768069What was Vandal's battle plan?
>>568768069The LMG is such a peashooter, takes like 25 bullets to down one
>>568768069why do i never get players like this in my lobbies?
This is probably the most intense, sweaty, tryhard game I've ever played in my life at this point this late in the wipe. So fucking ruthless and cutthroat, if you aren't giving 100% just give up because someone else and will win hard. Make one mistake and you're fucked. I won 1/10 raids today and somehow I keep coming back to this cock and ball torture, Jesus. This game is really something else, not for the faint hearted. Tarkov end of wipes were no wear near this level, how do you guys do it.
>>568774441Maps too small, easier to just bloodthirst on everyone then do the things you want to do.
>>568774441just bought game, im guessing im gonna get fucking assblasted every game for a bit?
>>568775405Possibly, but that's par for the course for any game really until you learn its intricacies.
>>568769814The LMG is either shit or one of the best feeling weapons in the game, i havent quite figured it out yet myself.
>>568709189fuck yes
>>568775405Most people here are at least 80+ which is the floor for the high-level queue bracket
>>568775405no, they instilled a noobie perimeter up until lvl 25(?) with more focus on contracts and tutorial with less team spawns. you most likely won't see another player until you're out of the noob stages.
>>568776547Which also makes no sense. 80+ just means you've played a lot, it has no bearing on how skillful you are as a player.
>>568776887>>568776547>>568775735bless, i will dive in luckily i get good fps it seems so hopefully I can learn b4 getting ass blasted.
>>568777061just make sure you turn the in game music down and turn off whatever shit you normally have playing in the background when you play other games. and make sure your headset is on right, i don't understand how people in this thread STILL wear them backwards and hear foot steps on the opposite side.
>>56877688712, unless they changed it up.
>>568777012It's their solution to having a hidden MMR so it's all level based.
>>568777223must be twelve then, cause that was what i initially typed before changing it to 25.
>newbro>2nd game>some thief fucker is following me cloaked>i start shooting at him in panic>he stabs me to death>sheeeeeeeit
After a month break I'm getting the itch again. Season 2 can't come soon enough. Is recon still the same since the buff for her ult?
>>568778927assassins turn invis. thieves can see them with their visor though. everyone's aim is kinda shit at close range unless you got a shotty, knife is still pretty effective.
>>568779441>>568779441>Is recon still the same since the buff for her ult?are you asking if she's had any changes after the buff, or is she much better after the buff? after the buff you can tell where other players are unless they are signal jammed. if they're jammed they appear the same as other UESC. UESC appear as red dots and players are pinged the same as MSB3 with their shield colors above their heads and there's lines focusing on them.
>me when I get Traxus VIP
>>568779738Yeah, I meant if she got any changes with patches that came after the ult buff. Like nerfs because people thought it was op or such
>lv 32 thief>takes out whole team>purple shields >look at username>full of weird ascii charactersVery subtle.
>>568782772naw, she's still the same and super meta in cryo.
>>568783286they barely try to hide it,
>>568783291Thanks.
>>568783842The amount of Japanese and Koreans artists I saw doing Marathon far art in March was really nice, even art directors from other games were doing fanart of their favorite shells, people really like the design of Recon
>>568783286>>568784581i haven't come across one for marathon but there are youtube streamers who just stream with active cheats on. the whole stream is basically them wall hacking and following around a bunch of red rectangles on the screen. i think people have uploaded montages while cheating in marathon. they dgaf.
need a true megastructure map
>>568781369Last month, I saw a security system at one of the places I was doing work at that looked like something made by Traxus.
>>568787839>bungie could’ve ripped off Tsutomu NiheiSuffering. Also, I just saw the new patch notes. Thermals were removed and replaced with night vision because of course they were. And Sentinel has a free heartbeat sensor? That’s what we’re getting more of? Wallhacks? Could give the Hero anything and that’s it? Free clays and wallhacks?
>>568776158It feels good because all your shots are pulled magnetically to your target. Hold the button down at mid-far range and watch the tracers, game plays itself.
>>568755915>he fell for the vault hamster wheelkeep going, this time the accomplishment will feel real and you’ll finally be content. Only 20 more hours of repeating the same map.
So what are your predictions for season 2? I expect the following:>Free week won't boost numbers much, maybe 30k peak and it's mostly going to be returnees >Night Marsh will feel more annoying than fun. Mimics will be goofy not scary, and Pinwheel-like complex upper level a slaughterhouse>Sentinel will either be oppressively overturned or undertuned, no middle ground >New weapons will feel bad to use, and they are going to remove mainstays like Bully and M77 from faction shops>Shell stat progression will be about 1.5x more grindy than previous faction upgrade iteration >Implant rework will be good but you won't be able to purchase anything useful from the shop. Expect loads of Ornithologist (why isn't it removed yet?!) tier garbage with weird ass stat mixes on them
>>568772127Unfortunately the morons you see in clips all the time only seem to exist in NA
>>568792504Cradle is definitely going to be a worse system than what we've got now, that's just par-for-the-course with bungo. It's going to be 5x as grindy as faction upgrades just so they can fix it later and be all "we're le listening" (it'll still be at least twice as grindy as the old system)
>>568792504Well aren't you a ray of sunshine?>>Free week won't boost numbers much, maybe 30k peak and it's mostly going to be returneesI expect 70k at least. I assume Marathon will be mentioned at the State of Play, including the free week.>>Sentinel will either be oppressively overturned or undertuned, no middle groundYesterday, I had a Cryo run with a mic user, and 3rd guy was AFK, so we talked about the update a bit. He thought that Sentinel looked OP. I think that there is a possibility of that. But I assume that the worst of it will be patched out in a week.>>New weapons will feel bad to use, and they are going to remove mainstays like Bully and M77 from faction shopsThey looked pretty good. And I'm actually waiting for the weapon accessibility changes. I hope it'll let me use weapons I previously didn't have much access to. I wish there was a mid-tier shotgun that wasn't WSTR (don't like double barrels) and also wasn't rapinator-7000. Just something nice.>>Shell stat progression will be about 1.5x more grindy than previous faction upgrade iterationBasically impossible, lmao. I'm actually worrying that it might be a bit too fast since you can turn gear into worm XP.>>Implant rework will be good but you won't be able to purchase anything useful from the shop.They literally said that they will be purchasable.https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>You can expect to see some new additions to the faction trees too. For example, each faction now has a unique family of implants (head, torso, and leg) which fits the playstyle of that faction. NuCaloric offers implants that help with healing and durability, while MIDA has ones more proficient in mobility or disruption.
>>568792504My prediction is that I will have a blast again :)
>>568793358I didn't say they won't be purchasable, it's that the actually useful ones won't be. What shops will have is the "get hardware boost after using a patch kit" or "get hp on shield breaking EMPd target" shit not anything good
>>568793604You can already get useful implants from the store. I don't think there is any president for that changing. I assume NuCal will cell Triage Cloak.
>>568793761Holy ESL
>>568794245Yes, I'm Russian. I misspelled "precedent" as "president".
>>568794294Cell should be sell.On another note, don't you have a drone to hide from, Ivan? Any ditches to hide in?
>>568792504I predict Night Marsh will just strain peoples eyes more. They’ll probably say something like this:>this hurts my eyes >team over here>where>in the dark over there>where
What are the pillars in Cryo Archive's central room? Why do they lower sometimes?
>>568794562>On another note, don't you have a drone to hide from, Ivan? Any ditches to hide in?No. Why?
>>568794586Just ping? Give them directions.
>>568794830BRO HES RIGJT THERE HES ONE SHOT
What does self revive sound like again
>>568794990>no pings>no directions>no comms at allWHERE WERE YOU?
>>568794990I fucking hate this shit. The only reliable info is whether someone has a cracked shield or not. So many times a "one shot" dude had 100+ hp.
>>568794990When they say this I tune out cause it means fuck all.
>>568795127>teammate runs off 127m by themselves>team on me>*SHONLGK*>where was my fucking team man you guys are so bad
>>568795091Shoom
The perimeter warden is so hard oh dear lordy he’s wiping the whole trio
I think Bungie should realize gearing out feels lame because the only real choice there is goes between utter poverty and fully kitted to kill other players
>>568795091fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE- *KA-CHOM-KA-CHOM* (misriah)
>>568795621Gearing will feel lame until there are weather forecasts and PvE alerts BEFORE entering the match. >it’s raining, gotta bring the umbrella>this key will take us to the pyramid, so we need shotguns and agilityRPG stat mechanics and loadouts can’t be stressed in PvE because all that matters there is range.
Ziegler man help meeee
>>568785151Recon and Destroyer have some strong tokusatsu vibes, no wonder they like them.
Dire marsh is so retarded right now, Arachne rank is skyrocketing, because everyone wants to get on a roof and snipe, while you just wait for them to take a shot at someone, and shoot them in the back
>PvP Lite is available at launchThe fuck is that, less teams on the map? I will play it just to rush and slaughter the other team
>>568798229Cry about it.
>>568798363I will delete game when PvE is out, but PvP Lite is for griefing, rushing the players
>>568798490Even better.
>>568795621Your image is fossilizing anon
>>568682203he's azteqi
*penetrates your spawn**penetrates the next POI*can't wait for the PvEiggers in PvP Lite
Signal Jammer nerfed ahahahaah
Another wonderful day.Time to lose everything!Hope you are doing well, /mg/.
>>568800948The firefight thing seems to make complete sense as the idea of the jammer is to both make you digitally invisible to sensors and pings along with obscuring your silhouette at distances. Currently it just pretty much an evasion buff you want to pop up at all times, regardless of the situation and map.
>Random fills>Get two vandals>Both are rush-in-and-get-yourself-killed retards
Bully and WSTR will be mostly untouched, but their rarity will be changed.
>>568802962Usually also have really poor situational awareness.>Teammates are looting up in the intersection gatehouses. >Notice an assassin getting into the same building from the opposite side of the skyway. >Ping and voice to them that there's an entire team barreling at them from the other side.>Some form of goobledygook i can't recognize as any earth language.>Decide to just keep an eye on the skyway and hope the retards stay put on the other side so i can put them full of holes with a Demolitionist as i've got a perfect angle.>Teammates just rush to the skyway instead of taking the roof or heading into cover.>Teamshot by the opposing runners so they're now swiss cheese.>Opposing team greeds like hell and cross the bridge.>Clobbered to shit by half a mag of Demo and two are full KO. >Of course the free kitters don't have any self revives, cause why would they?>Happy noises resembling encouragement floods team comms. Both teammates are now just body bags.>Get into a 3-4 min hide and seek with the assassin and finally shove a WSTR and a knife up his ass.>Go res the teammates.>They go die to bots in the Intersection anyway so another team pushes and my luck runs out.
>>568799341>Inventory value: 4klol ok who cares
>Playing on PSquintupple>Just audio coming out tv>Do alright>See fancy sony headphones that should be 150 for 30 on sale as a newer models replacing them and decide fuck it lets see how noise cancelling 3d audio changes things up>Bro is now LISTENING>Have been the one to walk away from every encounter in solos because i am aware of where they are at all times and if i crouch walk they dont seem to be able to hear me at all>Clear an entire map of players on last run just creeping up behind and melting them with an smg as they were looting and they were so spooked they had no time to react.>The whole map, like a goddam slasher movie villain their numbers dropping as some unseen titan knock off climbs out a vent or through a broken window and they just aren't listening.I feel like this genre more than any other really has a significant difference on if you have good headphones or use tv/monitor audio. Its like being the only guy who could hear in a room of deaf people.
I can't play Vandal without the fast cannon charge core.
>>568803190If WSTR wasn't dead before, now it is.Shit performance *and* harder to get? It's fodder for the cradle.
>>568803898>Why yes I will loot this crate even though I'm in an active firefight/enemies are approachingWhat kind of upbringing fosters such cognitive capacities?
>>568804856He didn't say "harder".
>>568805137Given Bungie's track record, I'd be very surprised if they made WSTR more available. But I will gladly be proven wrong.
>>568804236I can never hear shit in this game because the tv is far away. Then some pc player in my team, playing in a styrofoam box with headphones will tell me the steps per minute the team next door is doing and whether they’re wearing leather or cotton due to the chaffing
>>568804990This is just the beginning anyways. N.Marsh will be a complete shit show with fills as they likely have no amount of capacity to understand visual radio silence or staying in places that minimize the chances to get spotted.
>>568803190What the fuck do they intend for people to use instead of a Bully?
>>568805604Maybe they'll swap Bully and Copperhead?
>>568805389Just imagine if player comms attracts the CREATURES. Fills are one thing but what if one of your boys is a straight up yapper and wont shut the fuck up and is like that guy in left 4 dead who runs up to the witch with their torch on and gets instagibbed.
>>568805683Wouldn't that just make it worse in some respects? Copperhead outperforms the Bully in CQB PvP.
Imagine if Rook got a compromised Misriah instead in season 2.
>>568804314yeah thats honestly her best core.
What's the fucking point of railguns?>FAR less range than snipers>Far less damage and worse crit-mods too>Uses the same ammo though>Barely any applicable spaces for the hold and peek fighting style>Just barely outside the effective range of good automatics or even some buffed SMGsI have no idea what to do with these.
>>568807008They are supposed to be instagib weapons that have near-unlimited range, no bullet drop, insane stopping power, relatively silent compared to most weapons, at the cost of charging time, recoil, and encumberance. Bungie are retards though, and they made them shit.
>>568807008fune
>>568807008Try Zeus with the gold mod and then get back to us.
>>568751249>Load into Marathon>Expect everyone to be a murderhobo so there is no extra mental calculus to discern friend from foe>Load into Arc Raiders>Gives you Dark Zone PTSD where someone *might* be a murderhobo and the paranoia stresses you out and makes the whole experience tense
How have they not fixed this spawn yet?>Game puts you frozen in place on Perimeter with 2 ghost bots literally staring at you in the water, shooting you before you can even move
>>568809972This only happens if someone is going that one NuCal contract. I don't think it's a big issue. It's not enough to down you, and the contracts will be gone, anyway.
>>568810164>It's not an issue>Despite literally no other spawn having this bugkys retard, a problem is still a problem, even if it's minor.
>run with a key>either get sniped within 30 seconds of the match>or die to a consoletard Recon in some bushWhat the fuck.
>>568810961>Run with key>Go inside the building it belongs to>Find a dark corner>Crouch and tab out until the last 8 to 5 minutesit's that easyJust don't stray. Once you load in, rush your key building immediately. No detours unless you absolutely have to. Some players might have the same idea, but usually not. They might creep around near you when you're there, but just sit still and be quiet until enough time has passed.
>>568807008pwning noobs epic style
>>568810961>The ole stankrat got em agin ahe he he...
didnt realize i only had to dcon one of them
>>568811923It literally says 0/1.
>>568811962yeah and it gave me 3 dingles
>>568812394I'm guessing the intention was to allow up to 3 players/teams to this in the same run. Slim, chance, but not impossible.
>>568812394>>568812552Yes, these missions are designed to let 3 people who have the same quest take it on. It's semi-competitive in that sense while also allowing for a fully cooperative run where everyone can get it done in one go. A few other missions are similar iirc.
>>568811120Its getting to the building that is the issue, not what or where to hide inside.>no key, just template>have to find matter fixative>fight like a mofo all of UESC and reinforcements>noone bothers me for the whole match>run with a key>die within 3 minutes of matchSeriously...
>Rando fills who are clearly undergeared to take on ANY of the wardens>Don't play particularly well either>Aggro anyway>Die within 20 secondsI solo exfil, at that point.Get fucked, you dumbshits.
Do any of you actually Rat? it feels like i'm either seeing aggro murderhobos or oblivious fodder standing in their inventory giving us free wins.How many actually pull a stankrat and set up a kill floor and camp?
>>568813949>stankratstop making up new words that serve no purpose.
implant icons really just need to have text on them. i hate having an inventory of like 8 torso implants and i have to cycle through all of them to remember which one is which.its honestly to the point where i just equip them at random unless im doing a real tryhard run.
>>568811923Don't be so nervous that you drop your spaghetti, Runner...
>>568814008Stankrat is the most famous youtuber who rats in extraction games bro. Hes been around for years. You are just letting us know you are destiny refugee.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0raDJElH6I
>>568814945why do you watch other people play videogames?
>>568815076>Hes playing the uno reversi save face card boys, a bold tactic lets watch how it plays out for him.Don't you have a petition to sign lil' cuz?
>>568813949Since there's no duos me and my boy just go double assassin and camp next to the destroyed wing entrance waiting for teams to rape
it really is crazy how not-good the repeater is.
>clench and sit tight>5 minutes to final exfil>go open key room>at the same time exfil activates like 200m away from me>fuck.jpg>quickly loot what i need>not much of anything of use save blue salvage>leg it further way to a guarded exfil>that exfil someone popped is idle>oh shit.jpg>my exfil pops>get to it, cover with smoke>final second>sass enters itSeriously?! You had yours! Fuck off, i dont need a heart attack.
>>568820751He probably wanted to shank you but miscalculated the timer.
>>568820751he probably wanted the carri points
>keys before>"fragile">if you lose them you lose them>and your killer goesnt get them>"players are upset that they cannot get keys">make them require matter fixative>now if you lose them you lose them>and if you turned them into keys and lose them...>...your killer gets themSo... some streamers were upset that they could not get keys from killed players?
>>568824819It was more that the old design just made people idle on Perimeter in a corner and not engage with anything to get free keys and if they somehow got stumbled on everybody lost out. Now at least you might find a key template and go scrounge up a matter fixative. It's objectively better but not perfect IMO. I still think keys breaking if you can't get a fixative is ass, sometimes RNG just screws you. Fixatives should either be guaranteed commander drops or add some other conditional that requires an item that doesn't make the key break.
so how do we fix physical credits? its almost never worth it to pick them up as finding more than 500 in a normal round is pretty rare, its also extra pointless when ebt cards put money directly into your bank.are they going to start adding vending machines or paid exfils?
>>568826297Just turn all credits into the data cards desu, even ones found in loot crates.
>>568826297Coin-operated schema printers?
>>568826297I think they're fine for what they are, they have more value in the early season or for new players. Even the purple data cards don't mean much when you have hundreds of thousands in your account.
>>568826297data cards, also means even if you lose everything uploading that data can buy shit from the stores to keep the players moving and putting shit in the gear economy.
>>568827339I got those hundreds of thousands by picking up the data cards when I find them.
>>568818817i bet in development it twoshotted people and they had to nerf it
>>568811923the way you ran after it made me laugh thanks for posting
>>568810494the enemies are there because they appear around the end of the nucal contract that has you scan the growths in the river
my friend thinks lmgs are good and then throws a fit when someone two taps him with the outland. "BROOO HOW DID THEY KILL ME??? I WAS SUPRESSING FIRE@!@!!"we tell him every time it's pretty much only good vs bots in cyro but he wont listen.
>>568826297i've had up to 5k in phys creds before. although it was in cryo that it ever gets that high.
>>568824819i discovered that if you and a friend both bring in templates and only one of you have a matter fixative. you give yours to them and exfil, he gets two keys, and you get your template back. unlimited template hack.
>>568837243I've had a funny dude come in with twinked out gear to Outpost yesterday, except every single thing was on last trace. I got a fat pile of creds instead of gear and two minutes later a Rook killed me and my entire team.
If Marathon survives, they do you think they'll be adding a new ship map? Season 4? Season 5?
Pve should be a roguelight where you all start as rooks with nothing, every door on perimiter is locked and you need to find tunnels and vents to progress. Then you do missions and solve puzzles so you start new runs with some gear or door keys and unlock shells by finding them in one of a few random places e.g a Vandal in the tick nests in the underground.
they should add binoculars or something, i wanna be able to zoom in on a place without my sniper lens flare
>>568836591>LMGsThey are shit, unless you use aim bot.
>>568837914If they weren't retard trannies they'd have a team of people dedicated to shitting out a new map a month
Is runner blood bleach?
>cryo fill>warm up match>can't get lvl 2 so we venture into control>get pinched between two teams and my teammate is pissed because that's his last purple shield>I still have 21 plus 3 goldsdid some people not vip factions because of le 'thermodynamics of death' meme and they thought nucal was for destiny dads? lol.
>>568837457Well, i dont have friends so thats a no-go for me.
>>568838459demolition goes hard if you use it as a PR or Hand cannon and never let it go full auto and just click heads.
>>568838979I didnt collect agent rewards because my loot was full for a loooong time so couldn't VIP
>>568838985all my friends are just randoms i've added over time from good raids.
i don't know how so many of the player base ran into this problem. the only thing i stock a lot of are shields and implants. i have a decent size of weapons, zero mods, and salvage.
>>568838979I have 30 blue shields, and 14 purple, and still have 10 VIP rewards from NuCal. Shit, if i barter replicator for shield... i get so many purple shields, and so many blue ones for dermapacks...
>>568839443When I first banged through the contracts my vault got filled with shit and I never knew if I should sell or keep.
>>568839443I stopped stocking weapons. The only ones i have are two Misriahs and one Copperhead because i have all purple mods for it and shotties are trophies. The only guns worth stocking are literally copperheads and bullies because of 4 mod slots. If you are going to keep 4 mods in vault, might as well slap them onto a good weapon and keep 5 things in space for 4.
>>568839702Sell all green unless Materialist+ on implants. Keep blues and above. I have 20 unclaimed VIP from CyAc - all those are backpacks, so i only kept 2 purple ones and that Gold one you get from reaching VIP with CyAc.
But I like using LMGs. They're fun.
>>568839702have you also maxed out your vault space upgrade? i sell all green mods. only things i don't sell are salvage but i do limit them to 1 stack (200 for greens, 50 for blues, keep all purples). i sell guns i never use. i keep only purple back packs stocked as i can just buy the blue ones if i really had to do budget runs. only stock purple shields once i unlocked blues. nu caloric also has barters for purple shields using enzyme replicators. this doesn't require you to unlock them from maxing out nucal as well.
Apparently, this isn't in upper Complex. This is the physical representation of the Cradle system.
>>568839630i don't even stock blue ones because they are so easy to get (buying them or swapping off dead bodies)
>>568841801And the new result screen seems to be in that room.
>>568841801You'd imagine a big tree like that would be really obvious if it's on the Equanimity, right?
>>568842072They also show off Sentinel in front of it. This is probably the new main menu, where your selected shell does idle animations.
>>568842072Looks like the beginnings of a social hub.
>>568838897its squid blood, runners are printed using cephalapod dna, its how assassin cloaks.
>>568842072i still wish they showed me where they shot me or where i shot them. i just lost a duel with my copperhead vs a br and i swear i'm trained on my enemies head.
>>568842072>damage parsing and downs counted tooYES! YES!
>>568843989Yeah, replays would be nice. I'd just like to be able to spectate a run, even a recording of it. Would allow me to reflect. Especially in Cryo.
>>568839193use the loot until you die then? are you retarded or so pro you never die because that's basically impossible
>>568844549I suck but often have a streak of exfils starting with a freeshit and don't need to buy anything.
>>568842545Food for thought: How would a social hub be justified, in lore?We are basically just minds when not in a shell.So a hub, like the cradle, would have us move around as ghost-like apparitions.Alternatively, we could still just move around as our shells because "that's how our mind envisions its appearance"-
>>568845119maybe just a chatroom ala ghost in the shell. have everyonen just be shapes.
>>568845119Sure, Vandal in the first cinematic didn't wake up on TCIV, she got up from printing and went to talk to ONI in a chair.
How are you supposed to beat the sniper squads that set up on the top of algae ponds?
>>568845119A VR training area to fuck around in
>>568846038Don't go to DM
>>568846038Plenty of blind areas to approach from. The underbelly side and the routes from Maintenance near the Intersection side has like zero sight lines. Algae ponds in general has pretty poor sight for snipers with the exception of straight towards intersection and some finicky ones towards Greenhouse. Peeking towards AI Uplink and the areas closer to Maintenance is like needles in a haystack. AI Uplink is much harder to root away from Sniper teams solely because you only have two possible directions with very few being covered so you got to take underground path or eat a bullet and bleed out in the swamp ass of nowhere.
Baby's first Cryo exfil, finally got at least some subroutines on the board. Trying to hit as many as I can on the way out of this patch hoping that other scrubs are in the same boat as me. Sentinel trophy system can't come soon enough. Also first time getting killed by the goo gun which was really annoying because I'm almost certain the team using it had teamed with the other one we were fighting because they refused to attack each other. Cryo is definitely a spectacle but fighting in it is so unfun, it's basically doorway control simulator and seeing who's 3rd is dumb enough to walk forward.
Will we ever get wide open maps with 3 mile hikes between POIs like the trailer?
>>568847936No. Engine can't handle it.
I really wish randoms would fucking stop calling air drops. I have never had a team of fills that managed to live through the other runners this inevitably attracts. It's like they can't help it. They see a button and *must* push it.
>tell myself I gotta use up all my gear>infil with a blue backpack, shield, and green bully and wstr>catch the 2nd last team looting and finish the lobbyit's like an addiction, i swear.
>>568848525
>>568848525This game will tickle all your receptors, then grab you by the balls, then tickle you again. It's a wonderful cycle of abuse and ecstasy.
>>568848929Is that what you tell yourself when you're getting raped?
>>568846038Map knowledge
>>568849362It's what carried me through 12 years of Destiny.
>>568848073If you're gonna press the button and hide yeah cool, but people who stand still on the pad waiting for it.. might as well alt-f4.
>recon scans and runs ahead through a group of bots>HE'S IN FRONT OF ME HE'S IN FRONT OF ME SHOOT HIM SHOOT HIM>assassin throws down smoke and none of us are thievesi swear, just cause you play recon, doesn't mean you're smart. dude lost all his HP to bots and then tried to 1v1 a full health dude.
>>568848073it's griefing at this point in the wipe
>>568849448Some people just want to suffer
My first Cryo exfil. Made out with a pretty cool haul too. Gold backpack, shield, gold M77 and DRRVISH + two gold cores. I was really hoping we'd kill the Compiler too but I have no idea how to even get to the Compiler, and my teammates didn't either.
>free weekCan't wait to VIP in 2 days
>>568849848You need a DNA access card, probably anti-virus, and tons of batteries to kill Compiler (and level 4 security clearance but you really want 5).
>>568850121I've found batteries scattered throughout, and I can bring anti-virus with me. I guess I just need a coordinated team to do it now. I also just don't know the way to the damn thing either. Cryo is suffering to navigate. Don't know how to find the DNA Access Card either.
>>568849848you also need to clear all 6 vaults. you're a long ways a way besides wiping the lobby.
>>568850043you won't if you're like everyone else on this board. because you can't empty your vault to accept your VIP packages.
Cyro needs 5-10 more mins how do people manage to do anything here.
>>568850268You can find DNA access cards in most of the vaults. You can only use them if you've gotten all 6 subroutines from each vault though.
>>568850272Tfw will never do compiler or survive in cryo for more than 5 mins
>>568850272>>568850464Oh. I was really hoping to kill the Compiler at least one time before the season ended.
>>568850447But now there's the cradle, that encourages converting old guns
>>568850616if you random fill with someone who has all that done you can still kill him. You just can't initiate the quest yourself unless you have all that shit. If anyone else can or does you're cool though.
New story when?
>>568850679build a better system, god will make a better idiot.
>watching my teammate make his last stand>2 assassins are just running at him with a knife>he wastes time shooting left and right trying to spray them down>told them he probably would've been better off pulling out his own knife>"oh yeah"doesn't matter anyway cause after he lost the 2v1, a 3rd party came in and knifed them down lol. i leave them and tell them to be careful while i run around trying to get lvl 2 and they push out and get into a team fight. oh lord.
>>568850605the general play is to get lvl 2 and travel through the outskirts between POIs. if you cannot get 2 and absolutely have to go into control, depending where you are, you can drop down to the first floor and look for tags/ kill purple bots. or find more hacks in some of the intermediate floors. every room after your spawn is guaranteed a hack, and i've even seen hacks in the spawn room that people overlook because they kill the commander, pick up the one tag and don't even bother looking around. if you get into a confrontation that you don't feel you can win in control, just back out or run away, cause chances are high you will get pinched. i've seen 2/3 hacks in the second room before if you're really lucky. i like to travel the outskirts and fight teams there. on the first floor there's one part with vents in the floor that i like to duck into and flank teams with a shotty.
>>568853390Well I'm never gonna have 2 competent friends to play with so I'm done
>Literally everyone somehow gets lobby-wide compiler kills>I get sweaty retards who refuse to even fucking consider the idea of a fun lobby-wide compiler killgive peace a chance bros it'll be fun
Combat right now is just fishing for sniper kills, trading pot shots for like 5-10 mins and then when one team finally gets a down + finish they push before its even possible to revive. Not really any skill, just getting the lucky sniper shots.
>>568855678Not my experience
>Meet random early in the season who’s chill>Sends me a friend request and ever since we’ve been playing on and off whenever we’re both online>Hit lots of milestones together and we’ve gradually gotten pretty familiar>Today I ask if he has a discord>Mostly ask just so we can better coordinate meet ups and send memes or marathon related shit to>”Oh uh sorry man…I like to mostly keep things in-game, you know?”
>>568858623How it should be
>>568858907why?
I'm trying cryo more now that season is about to end. I made the mistake of picking up the item that activates a boss encounter in a frozen room while my teammates were right outside. I got locked in with this boss fight and obviously died. I kept trying to escape which I realized too late there is no way out except to kill the boss. 2 self revives later I just died in there and the red barrier was still up, so my team had no way to even revive me or finish the boss or anything. Pretty brutal.
>>568859181Also playing with randoms sucks but nowhere is that more clear than fucking cryo. God it's just painful trying to do anything with 2 ps5 players who can't communicate other than sitting still for like 90 seconds to type out a message. Miserable experience desu
>>568858623
>>568858623>d*scord Pathetic. I'd unfriend anyone who asked me that. Thankfully none of my marathon homies would ever ask something so stupid
>>568859964>chat software bad because it just is ok?
I just had bizarro randoms. Really good runners. Well equipped, knew the map.Killed warden, hunted a team, destroyed rocket drone.Then just as we wanted to exfil, Recon spots one more runner. Who makes a mad dash.Naturally, it was a rook. Probably wanted to check for rocket drone leftovers.I honestly feel kind of bad for him. He clearly wasn't trying to engage, even ran away. Triage shot him in the back before he could turn corner though.We exfilled with decent loot for perimeter. The rocket drone even dropped some gold valuables.
>>568860064its bad because intimacy of any kind of super scary
>>568860064Discord is full of degenerate freaks
>>568860453Tell me about your mother, anon.
>>568860554anon, discord is not a website.
>>568861231That doesn't detract from my statement
>>568861478yeah it does, its a completely facile argument. theres trannies HERE yet here you are.
>>568860625Freud was just a hagmaxxer who projected his mommy issues onto everyone else
>>568861660Truly a visionary.
>>568858623Things have really changed in gaming, people just stick to their friend groups nowadays and no one really wants to form connections anymore. idk what happened
back in the day you'd meet a few guys in a halo/cod lobby and become online friends for years, now people are anti-social and reclusive
>>568859028Just play the game i don't wanna be your friend faggot
>>568862167>>568862382It's fear of exposure and too much commitment in something that shouldn't be a potential time-bomb for drama, both digital and IRL.
>>568862382It was different when we were kids and online every night for 8 hours without fail. These days I have no idea when I'm gonna play again, and it won't be to some faggot I met in the game's schedule.
>>568862561whys it such a point of contention? do YOU even know why?
>>568860215Never trust a filthy (Durandal forgive me for uttering this word) r**k. Kill all r**ks on sight.
>trusting a r**kISHYGDDT
>>568863101>>568863307TRD
>>568863307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8eT45Hlli0
>>568863307Rook games are gonna go fucking crazy with those new frost trap placeables.
When the fuck are they putting toe poppers and cyber-punji traps into the game for the real Rook experience?
>tfw ganking a team of 3 with just a Punch and a little sneaky sneaky
>>568805892>>568805604Hope you boys like the BRT
They don't like the prestige, they don't like the notoriety; they don't like the fact, that I got more cars than most of you have friends
Post your end of season report cardsLVL 172 - Rank Bronze 1 - Main Vandal569,687 final credit countTitles: Profiteer, Notorious, Archivist, Graverobber2 Cryo skins(Vandal, Recon) - 3 Compiler killsCodex 340/455
>>568862167right? I remember during destiny /vg/ had a vibrant community. Friend groups formed, it was easy to ask for help with raids, ToO and shit. It was good times. I poked my head in here to see if anyone could help me learn cryo but looks like I better l check somewhere else.
Any random that solo-rushes ahead to challenge warden will be left alone. You deserve to lose your gear you incompetent fucktard.This is just like Destiny. A community bad at its own game. Zero understanding of its mechanics, zero map awareness, zero tactical thinking. Just rush in and die.
Did they announced anything about a longer downtime before season 2 starts?
>>568868458Started late into S1, wasn't a day 1 player so my stats are low and I don't want to share them.
240 hours total, 230 hours in solo
>>568869063It's ok man any progress is progress!
>>568868584even the tarkov general was really cool for a few years, I think the world in general is just a less friendly place
>>568868458Lvl 108 - Bronze III because i did not play ranked.1550000 in credits, 450k in vault value.Titles: Profiteer, Notorious.0 anything Cryo because i only tried solo ranked once and got wasted by cheaters.Codex: 223/455VIP: 28 CyAc, 20 NuCal, 14 Trax, 11 MIDA, 3 Arachne, 9 SekGen.Im still going to finish off some stuff, but its all so very annoying.
88% of players have not unlocked VIP https://steamcommunity.com/stats/3065800/achievements
>>568870608Considering the falloff trend from the release of the game? No wonder there.>implying season 2 will be betterLol, same shit as with path of exile? 50k at launch, and falls off to sub 10k after 2 months, losing 50% of that 50k in less than a week.>free weekMaybe that will bump it up to 100k, maybe. Now, how much you wanna bet there will be a cheater rampage?>make a fresh lvl 0 steam account>hop onto Marathon>cheats enabled>have "fun" until ban>if banned before week ends roll a new accountIt will be a shitshow.
>watched a video of a guy glazing audio design of MarathonYes, some of it is nice, but a lot of it is just there to force PvP, meaning its not even close to being good.>be underground>can hear people shooting outside>be outside>can hear people looting shit while being undergroundReally dude...
>>568871264What can you possibly lose this early in the season though? Everyone will be on grays and greens at best. Cheaters will be a nuisance, but they won't cause any considerable loss.
>>568871264It will be fun, as always.
>>568871776>what do you loseProgress, time, neurons.
So how much longer until the game gets shut down? I want to cum already.
>>568871892doubt.png
>>568871965Sony kneeled to risegkm and is not shutting it down
it's actually really pissing me off that every perimeter game has warden at south relay now when I need to go there for drive salvage can you just fucking stay in overflow
>>568872116I give it about a month before the EOS announcement. Then I’ll cum so hard from excitement that my squirt will splatter my bedroom walls.
>>568872586You said the same thing a month ago
>>568872457I hate it when randoms challenge Warden. In most cases they just get trashed. It's absurd.
>people got fucked so hard on Marathon, they can't cum anymore, if they're not getting bent over, and taken from behind>the only way for Marathon quitters to cum, is to get topped, or hear about EoSMany such cases, poor Alys*fag in particular
I am playing this game with zero spoilers, it is a good time.I like the layers - it is like an onion, but fresherprops to the mine guy while I was doing sekiguchi intro contractI made it to the scanner while dying, it still scanned me in.
>>568873459Game is fun. Hope future seasons add more content though.
Lore wise, do we know anything about CyAc? They seem kind of weird in being both the vanilla faction and having the least amount of info about them, including being a proxy for Durandal of all people
>>568870608that's because the early game is confusing and boring for like... 50 hours
>>568873734Is ONI actually Durandal? Or is she a more advanced version of the AI of which Durandal was a branch of?
>>568873836>that's because the early game is confusing and boring for like... 50 hoursBoth early game and late game is about killing other players, what's confusing about that
>>568874163Ask the hundreds of thousands that quit the game before spending 5 hours in it maybe
oh my fucking god the lmgs are such fucking dogshit even with the shield what the fuck were they thinking with these things
>>568874591I'm asking you, to see your answer. I already know why people quit, they're terrible at PvP
>Go to PvE mode>Not enough stuff to do, no content>Quit>Go to standard Marathon 2026>Get stomped 5 times in a row>Quitcurrent Bungie is beyond based
>>568875596Why do people whine about getting killed by other players in a PvPvE game?
>you can't learn anything organically without being gunned down by sweats so you have to look up guides and follow a metaWould it kill to have a better explanation of the maps and objectives
>>568876549One of the reasons is youtubers taught them to say "Friendly", and if someone refuses to be friendly, they're a rat, and bad person.One more reason, I think, is that some people want a looting game, to make number go up. They don't want to fight, to make number go up.
>>568877263There's nothing really on the map to explain, you load in, and go to [location name], and a yellow objective dot appears. >gunned down by sweatsPoor baby
>>568875596>this PVP game in particular made people hate PVP>it's le people's fault>ignore literally every other successful PVP game ever. those don't count.
>>568877263your comment confirms why I love this game so much.
>>568877662You have to look up guides on how map events work let alone how to do Cryo in general
>>568877704>>ignore literally every other successful PVP game ever. those don't count.Other people force bad players to lose items. They feel robbed by force.You don't lose items, when you quit a match in Call of duty, Apex, Warzone, Battlefirled.Marathon is 10X harder than popular games.
>Marathon free play weekBuilt for my uncircumcised, long and unwashed deimosite rod
>>568880703it might hurt the reviews when f2p shitters get their feelings hurt
>>568880703>queue times downyay>loot pool greyerboo
>>568868458LVL 101 - Rank Bronze 2 (ranked is not fun) - Main Destroyer493,763 final credic countTitles: Notorius0 Compiler kills Codex 199/455The days leading up to S2 have been the most fun for me. I'm not cortisol maxxing or gear fearing. I'm winning the majority of my fights and most games I walk out with a bag full of purple stuff. Hoping to ride this feeling through out S2
>>568878094>ignore multiplayer survival games with 10x the playercount
Thirsted on some poor sin who I jumped while he was trying to fight over that intercept cargo that can randomly spawn on perimeter, he backed himself into a corner so I just pushed him and slurped up his essence.
>>568881881Those couple of games don't matter. Arc isn't even first person
>>568884163>he was trying to fight over that intercept cargo that can randomly spawn on perimeter, he backed himself into a corner so I just pushed him and slurped up his essence.That was me, you sucked all the juice out of my balls
>>568884458keeeeeeeeeeeeeklike I said, your argument holds no weightthis game wasn't ignored for being hard, people didn't care for it at all. evident by the pathetic all time player peak
>>568884579*SLUUUURRRP*
>>568868458level 123, bronze 1, main reconi don't have many credits because i'm always blowing them on shit to play all day. i die sometimes and need a lot of credits for purple and gold shittitles: pacesetter, notoriouscryo skins or compiler kills: none, i think i bought the game too late. i might get him next season given the full season length of time. i have two subroutines rn, 01 and 04codex 237/455
>>568885232gamers are very bad at video games, that's why they stopped playing
400 hours and still begging for Skill Based Matchmaking.P.S. any time there's SBMM, I always reverse boost back into normalfag lobbies, and never get banned or anything.
>>568682203I dont think hes ugly, hes quite charismatic too
does anyone have the Triage looking up -meme? i need it. pic related
Do you still feel abused on Marathon? /mg/ was complaining a lot, about getting used an abused
>>568889996I mean every major company has figured out that SBMM means more player retention, not sure what Bungie is striving for here.
>>568890789Bungie let people see the truth. A reminder, that most gamers are trash. Absolute dogshit at video games
>>568891321That's somehow new information? Any field has a skill distribution due to both talent and varying interest and time investment, so it's only natural. Retarded from a business perspective to not take this into account.
I don't really care about Bungie, I think it's cool to have an AAA game to remind people, what a skill gap is.Too many games have an algorithm, that manipulates matchmaking. People don't even know what a squad of real sweats is, with near-perfect gameplay. >someone's doing too good, means he's cheatingOr he just faked his stats, intentionally farmed bad results, to get into normie lobbies.
>>568891961Seething at scrub cope is not a healthy perspective on pvp games but go on posting how, you repost, your epic reverse boosting, with a cronus, while you, sleep.
>>568891813>That's somehow new information?To many people it is. Call of duty has a giant community, they all think SBMM ruins the game, doesn't allow them to farm noobs.Funny thing is, they are the noobs, without SBMM, they won't even be able to get any kills. In other games, bad players think they are good, and that SBMM is "hurting them, by keeping them out of noob lobbies"
>>568892352>bad players think they are goodWe know, thanks.
>>568891961>I don't really care about Bungie, I think it's cool to have an AAA game to remind people, what a skill gap is.I like to get better and lack of SBMM makes it harder. Shitters don't punish your mistakes, and the top 1% are so far away that it's hard to see all the things you're doing wrong. From an improvement perspective, a well-tuned SBMM puts you against players who are:* 1 tier below you* equal tier to you* 1 tier above youThis means the relative -1 tier players are still good enough to punish you if you fuck up, and the +1 tier players are there for you to learn from, but not impossible to take down if you've learned your lessons or they have a bad day.I see the only players against SBMM are mostly these pseudo-sweats who are slightly or somewhat above average, who would have their illusion of superiority broken when consistently going against top 10% players.
>>568891961If you have to reverse boost into shitter lobbies you are objectively a turbo-shitter.
>>568892041Bwo you know I love you, but you both are terrible, I'd unironically 1V2 you without blinking once
>>568892506>If you have to reverse boost into shitter lobbiesNot have to, but want to. What is the point of always playing against clones of myself, who're all doing the same meta stuff.>>568892470>I like to get better and lack of SBMM makes it harder.With SBMM you can plateau, keep getting mid results without getting stomped, and learning from that. When you bump into players way better than you, you can develop a plan, to avoid losing next time. You may still not be as good as them, but you'll find a way to make it unfair, and kill them by fighting dirty.
>>568892545that was from week 1 i'm roughly five times better now
>>568892758>With SBMM you can plateau, keep getting mid results without getting stompedNot true, if you keep learning from your losses against +1 tier players, and not forgetting what keeps you alive against +0 and -1 tier players, then you'll eventually become the +1, moving the needle on you upwards. Rinse and repeat.>but you'll find a way to make it unfair, and kill them by fighting dirty.True, but cheese tactics aren't sustainable if your goal is to get better over time, you'll get hardstuck eventually.
>>568892758>Not have to, but want to. What is the point of always playing against clones of myself, who're all doing the same meta stuff.Depends, do you enjoy playing basketball against toddlers who can barely walk? If so, reverse boosting sounds like your thing.
>>568892776>i'm roughly five times better nowOk, maybe I'd blink when breaking down your squad>>568892980>but cheese tactics aren't sustainable if your goal is to get better over time, you'll get hardstuck eventually.In Marathon they're sustainable, because they're not complicated. All you have to do is pretend you're not there, and shoot someone in the back. Works with bubble shield nerds, shotgun nerds, roof campers, everyone
Why did Arc Raiders retain such a higher playerbase? The game is so boring compared to Marathon. Do gamers really just want a handhold experience? I mean there's nothing wrong with that, but still, kind of lame.
>>568893213>do you enjoy playing basketball against toddlers who can barely walk?Not everyone in normal lobbies is a window licker, you need a new account to get into actual toddler lobbies. SBMM has multiple brackets, I will not struggle in the top one for free. That's like doing work and not getting paid.
>>568893343>In Marathon they're sustainable, because they're not complicated. All you have to do is pretend you're not there, and shoot someone in the back. Works with bubble shield nerds, shotgun nerds, roof campers, everyoneWell if it works so well then surely SBMM won't be a problem for you. You can show off your skills. ^^
Moment cryo opens in season 2 every sweat is gonna be farming compiler and be right back to max vault and upgrades lmao
>>568893386>Why did Arc Raiders retain such a higher playerbase?Looks cinematic, realistic(like The Last of Us). And has matchmaking that helps you avoid PvP players. If you don't shoot players, you into lobbies with people who only shoot bots.Graphics matter a lot, so does safe matchmaking. People love movie games.
>>568893386Dunno. Dropped ARC after 20 hours because every round felt the same and the "factions" were boring. Played marathon 200 hours before taking a break.
>>568893451>I will not struggle in the top one for free.So you just confirmed that SBMM would reveal you for being the shitter you are
>>568893497SBMM eventually matches you with people just like you, doing the same thing as you. There will be a giga aim god, super movement demon, and an ultra camper. Why would I fuck with them?Is someone paying me to deal with them? No pay, i go fuck up the normies.
>>568893451>I will not struggle in the top one for free. That's like doing work and not getting paid.You should try playing video games to have fun. If you're not having fun playing against skilled players what does that make you?
>>568893649>Is someone paying me to deal with them?Not sure what you mean, if you want money go get a job.>SBMM eventually matches you with people just like you, doing the same thing as you. There will be a giga aim god, super movement demon, and an ultra camper. Why would I fuck with them?If I join my local football division then then I'll come across people just like me, doing the same thing as me. Who'd have thunk
>>568873734>>568873903I think ONI is going to be exhibiting more signs of rampancy in the future, you can kind of see it already with her affirmations when you're solo and her concern with Nona trying to muscle in on us. She's basically personified Microsoft 365 compared to Durandal being the tortured 3rd child of Strauss.
>>568893583I can confirm I haven't used Nucal, Traxus, or Sekiguchi upgrades, and still got an extremely high Arachne rank, with like a 4.5 K/D ratio
>>568894052Ok bro
>>568894052>i played a lot look at my faction rank>here's my k/d in a no sbmm gameAre you real? Is this some andy kaufmann shit?
>>568894329I don't have shell enhancements unlocked>no self-repair speed>no cool down speed>no blue cores>no blue gunsI mostly used green guns and shields, always
>>568894395>>here's my k/d in a no sbmm gameSBMM players have K/Ds between 0.9 and 1.4 within their "level". Real KD is reflected in no SBMM games.
Welcome back 10mm Flechette.
>>568894562You're so close
Time to hit lvl 100 a second time, did it on Xbox a couple of weeks ago. But I didn't play solo on my Microsoft account. Sony account was mostly solo.
>>568893650>If you're not having fun playing against skilled players what does that make you?SBMM i about always playing within your "bracket", I refuse to play an endless Mortal Kombat tournament for free. I did not consent to ranked mode. I will bypass SBMM and play with all kinds of levels.
>you should follow the rules and play within SBMMWhy should I sweat for free? There's tons of players that are not able to make me sweat, why would I not play with them? Is Bungie paying me to be a competitor, and follow competition rules? Imagine going tryhard 24/7 for free, working on the game, instead of fucking around and blasting normalfags.
>>568895382You are the most insecure player/poster I've ever seen
>releasing new season on a tuesday
>>568895440I'm being honest, when you play PvP games a lot, with good results, SBMM puts you into tryhard ranked lobbies only. I refuse to stay in those lobbies at all times, I will not work hard for free.
>>568895887You hit a plateau and instead of coping with the limits of your skill you've turned to this pathetic cope as an attempt to soothe a bruised ego.>I think it's cool to have an AAA game to remind people, what a skill gap is.I agree, sbmm skill gapped and mindbroke you.
>>568896352I'm super good at Marathon, that's cool too
Am gonna play with black superman
PoV: You convince the purp-gold misriah team to give peace a chance and let you rez and exfil altogether.Picard would've been proud of me.
i wish they'd nerf triage because the amount of utility he brings especially to cryo is off the fucking charts and i feel like i'm griefing if i don't play him
>>568897326smeni nikneim i pososi huy, pidor blya
>>568898291It's mostly Shareware and that in an of itself isn't too bad once you consider that Signal Jammers are getting changed next Season so they won't just be a passive boon to everyone the second you turn them on. Beyond that, it's just utility in terms of passive shield regen from bots and saving up on meds and those aren't too bad on their own. I'd rather just play the shells people are good at playing and slap my teammates around for being cheapskates on bringing meds/hardware/firewall utilities.
Cuties
I'm really hoping these implant and core (?) changes feel substantial.
>Destiny is fixing everything >Marathon is getting overshadowed amd ratioed Uh oh...
>>568901428
>>568901871shouldn't this be>marathon>myth>oni>halo>destinythen marathon again?
>>568898370I don't know what that means. I was paired up with two ruskies with the Fill function.
>browsing /v/ marathon thread >jump to the bottom>some guy posts a vocaroo>calls the song niggerbot >lyrics have nothing to do with anythingIt’s like I witnessed some genuine Chris-chan type shit. I wonder if it’s still in the archive
How many hours did you have in S1 and how many AI subroutines did you get? I’m curious what Bungie intended here with the Compiler completion rate.
>>568904321 (me)250 hours, 4 vaults completed. None of it was done with premades, it was all random keys and runs.
>>5689043211801, vault 1. Will try to get the second one, I have a key for it.
>>568904321415 hours, all 6 subroutines completed. 3 Dead Compilers.I got my 6th and final one probably around 360 hours(?). No premade, all fill queue and just using my own keys or keys I found on dead players. I got my first Compiler kill before I got vault 6 subroutine which probably says a lot about how absurd the drop rates and bullshit you have to do to GET that subroutine is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJYQDG1ORoY
>>568904321270 hours, 6 subroutines, 4 compiler kills
>>568904321350h and one subroutine done. Fuck running Cryo with fills, doesn't help that I don't really have all that much time to play during weekends.
Here's your Night Marsh gameplay. Drop a (You) if you can't see shit
>>5689043211500, I didn't touch Cryo because it looked like it would be boring and I'm going in now and my suspicions are 100% accurate. 3 red cryo keys in my vault just so others could not have them, and I'll do the same thing in S2 unless they make the map actually fun.
>>568907215Nigga should turn on his flashlight or use sonars.
>>568907215
>>568907215Bets on how long it'll take for them to tone down the darkness thanks to streamers bitching?
Kay, this does not look good here, um...
when are they gonna show the new battle pass i need to know if i should buy this one
>>568908719Maragawds....the Destinychuds are gaping us lowkey...
>>568908719Why yall finna be postin this man… on god…On my mama we reachin huned k on s2
>>568908719And yet destiny is finished. Curious
>>568908719I know it's probably just shit stirring, but I'm pretty sure people are just retiring for the season. Most runners I've been playing with have been playing for 3 or 4 days trying to empty out their vault as a grand finish before wipe but they just keep filling it back up so they're taking a break until the reset hits
When’s Day Marsh coming
>>568910298Anon, the Marathon playercount has been around that number for a few weeks now. Most of the players are on PC too which makes the Destiny mog look even worse.
Marathon got stuff like thishttps://x.com/eternalcrim/status/2023613201645268999?s=46What Destiny gotWhat Halo got
>>568910684the exact same
>>568910721Alright I’ll give Halo a break because Cartano’s feetI’ll give Marathon a break because Theif is JapaneseWhat does Destiny actually have
>>568910885A tranny character
>>568876549Because you think PvPvE means its PvP exclusive/only, while they think PvP is optional.It does not help your cause that should players sideline PvP and co-operate more, everyone benefits aside from PvP-only players. Faggots like >>568872828 ruin the game for everyone.
>>568907405i wonder how visible healbots are from a distance on night mode.
>>568876370>>Not enough stuff to do, no contentThst bullshit and you know it.
>>568911786The game has four mapsFOUR MAPS
>>568877361>some people want a looting gameLol>game has loot>game makes a lot of point that loot is priority>loot is needed if you want to progress>loot is needed if you want to complete contracts>loot is needed if you want to learn story"some people want a looting game".Gee, maybe its because it is a looting game.
>>568889023>console>controllerYou did not win the game, you did not do shit to be good at this game. Aim bot, aim assist, bullet magnetism did the work for you.
>>568911874>game has 27 maps >people only play 2 of themEvery mp game ever
>>568889996>>568890585>get steamrolled by cheaters or consoletards>get mogged by pre-mades who sit in discord or IRL together"I am bad at the game".Yah, no wonder.Game is always going to be shit no matter how much people glaze its designs, VAs, and such because gameplay is shit, and it is shit because>aim assist stat>bullet magnetism>aim bot on controllers/consolesAnd worse still>hit registration>inability to see ping/latency/server regionAnd even worse>anti-cheat so decrepid that game has no effective anti-cheatAnd so you see these low-level accounts with just 1-5 games absolutely wiping the whole lobby.Or accunts where player has spent 9k hours in CS2 and Apex and thus claims he is super skilled and totally did not cheat.>game has no logs or replays which complicates cheating detection>Bungie claims to also run their own anti-cheat tooAnd this comes from a company where cheating was rampant in their previous game.Some hardcore game, huh.And the marketing, oh the marketing... picrel.
>>568912536I didn't read the reply chain and thought he was talking about Marathon, woopsie!
>>568912136If you played on console, you’d be shocked at how bad your aim is because of the controller. Everyone who complains about aim assist don’t actually play on console.
>>568893583He is a shitter who relies on cruch called aim bot. Why do you think he is so desperately posting here. His ego cannot take an actual challenge.
>>568911874So? You have more than enough to do on 3 maps. Cryo is a whole other affair that you need to run 6 times to get access to Compiler. Come back to me when you solo Cryo and Compiler.This game is not Unreal Tournament where you need more than 20 maps to keeps things interesting. Or CS.>some people just play de-dust all the time and only that map>some just play Bridge of Fate or Face_2 all the time
>>568912667So? it snaps onto player even if you dont see him.And if aiming is so bad on consoles, why not allow an option to disable crossplay on PC? It is an option on consoles.>aiming on consoles is assDid not stop me from playing the shit out of Quake 2 on PS1 or Black on PS2 or Unreal Tournament on DreamCast. Did not stop my ass being handed to me by my friend who was much better than me at them. Play some games without aim bot, you'll get better (maybe).
>>568913771It doesn’t snap to the player, aim assist (in various games) only snaps to the player when they’re moving horizontally very fast close to the player (think sliding out quick from behind a wall). All aim assist does normally is a slight drag on a target when they’re inside a radius, and the reason it exists at all is because it’s easy to overcompensate when tracking targets on controller.
Did Vault 1 again, this time of my own volition. We only survived because we managed to avoid all confrontation. Well, I did. One of my team mates wasn't so lucky. One more time and I'm ready for vault 2. Where do you find coolant containers? Especially the filled ones.
>>568904321110 hours, 2 subroutines. Sitting on 2 other unique keys but low likelyhood of getting them done because I only have fill players to play with, and Cryo is too much to reliably complete. Tbh gold mods were a bad idea they just make PvP unfun and unfair just like Exotics did for Destiny (they're the same fucking thing).
>>568904321170+ so far. No routines, no Compilers, no nothing. Only two successful exfils from Cryo - but I've also only run Cryo about 15 or so times total.
>>568904321Almost 400. 0 Cryo content done. Made one run back when ranked was on, solo. Got wasted by cheaters. I have 4 keys for vaults - 1, 2, 3, 5.
Leaked image of a Cradle XP token. Unlikely to have other uses.
>>568921642Laugh now, but you'll regret it when they make Conquest and Volt Thrower the only guns you can buy from the armory.
>>568922148Volt Thrower is slept on desu, I love comboing it with the V75 or V66 for budget builds. It's a nice stand in that lets you move more erratically because of the lock on in areas where the bully is usually the go-to.
>>568923874yeah i'm looking forward to using the volt thrower more next season after reset it's better than an unmodded bully
Excited for everyone to be back at green and grey shit for a bit the meta has gotten really stale and desperately needs a shake-up.
>>568928264Most of us here will be purple because we are over level 75. And if that's lost, there will also be backup blue kit if the purple one is lost.
>>568928438Okay, most of you are shitters so your one free Scar and blue shield isn't going to mean anything. I'll have the same 75+ kit.
Man this game feels like a team based roguelite was turned into a pvp game in the last year of development because a c suite guy saw his kid playing cod dmz.
>hardline does 23 damage>magnum does 33 damageWhat logic is this? They use same ammo.And so it is with everything in this game. FFS. And they go "oh we want a niche for every gun", "we will buff these and nerf these"... fucking meta-enabling retards.
>>568931294What do you want? A gun that's objectively worse than another in every way?
I've had 0 issues with battleye and now all of the sudden I'm getting kicked out like every 5 minutes what's happening. I have 50 hours and not a single issue has happened until now
>>568932390They are actually giving a shit about hackers because they know this weeks patch is a big deal and the hackers will be wanting to grief like mad and thats a recipe for horrible first impressions and they are more willing to let people get caught by accident as long as it hits more than the nothing they were stopping before.
>>568932110I want consistency. I want damage being consitent with calibre. And none of that MIPS shit either. Light/medium/heavy, buckshot, sniper, rail slugs. How hard is it to have 6 ammo types and balance around that? 12/24/36, 10 per pellet, 60, 150. How hard can it be?
>>568933341>>/eftg/
As someone who just started, why does everyone want to fucking fight the wraith warden? I've seen it die 1 time and we all ran out of ammo and then died to another team. But so many runs, the fucks I get in with pick a fight and immediately get their shit stomped. Its like retard bait. I've literally heard someone say "this guy doesnt fucking die hes bugged wtf". Is it even worth to kill that thing?
>>568936323>why does everyone want to fucking fight the wraith warden?You answered your own question.>Its like retard bait. But seriously, wardens drop keys. Still, I think it's unwise to fight it early in the run.
>>568893509>Moment cryo opens in season 2 every sweat is gonna be farming compiler and be right back to max vault and upgrades lmaoAnon, i dont care what sweats do. Nearly 200 hours in and I still have yet to see the goo gun in a match. I saw my first gold shield out side of cryo for the first time just the other day.
>>568910434Before Bungie announced they were killing D2 the game wasnt really doing much better than Marathon, all the D2 players are flooding back to the game as a final send off or as some kind of cope moment thinking Bungie might notice and change their minds.
>>568933341>Everyone who quit: I cant find ammo!>This anon: I want to increase ammo scarcity via unnecessary ammo types!Go back to tarkov.
>>568912612Bungie straight up tries to put the responsibility on the fucking player to record their own game, live, and submit video evidence of cheating to them. Useless, lazy retards>>568918083Empty coolants in preservation, fill station at very bottom of control or biostock spawn. Filled coolant spawns in the level 3 room southwest corner of steerage
Fun fight. Tons of misplays.
>mfw spawned in AI uplink
>>568937887>i cant find ammoThere is a shitload of ammo. Ammo scarcity is not an issue.>Chaos Theory chipRetards. And you are a faggot.>implying i ever played Tardkov in the first placeSuck down the L.
>>568939708I posted this while matchmaking and ended up in AI uplink.