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>another skitty edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>568565136

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus is coming to Warhammer 40,000: Darktide!
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Space Marine 2:
Patch Notes
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0
Dude Wall
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
The Outlast Trials
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
John Carpenter's Toxic Commando
Far Far West:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:

Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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how many new maps have been added to darktide in the last year or so? haven't played the end of 2024
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>>568689179
Rolling Steel, Dark Communion, No Man's Land and expeditions
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True next heavy weapons turret class coming through
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Felinids will be playable in December. Trust the plan anyons. >:3c
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>>568689739
>fix ogryn vaulting
>add class that can't vault, jump or go up stairs
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>>568689739
>ERROR. ERROR.
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>>568690017
>>568690210
https://youtu.be/MK9liYPm7eE?t=48
What now?
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>>568690456
EXTERMINATUS
EXTERMINATUS
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>>568690210
Heavy weapons will be her optional gimmick, mark my words.
It's the closest we're getting to a space marine bracing to fire their heavy bolter into a horde with the backpack fed ammo drum.
And power armor lets her zip around and ignore bullets
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>>568680676
Heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy for crowds, pushattack -> heavy whenever you need to refresh dodges or dont feel safe for another heavy
Light-spam for elites, aim for heads. Special + light usually oneshots reapers/muties, special + heavy for lone maulers, ragers and crushers. There's not a whole lot of depth to the moveset, sadly.
>>568683374
Scourge + Crit DR is what I used to use for a while, but Scourge and by extension Enduring Faith gets a lot lower uptime you'd think on Thammer even with FotF, talking sub-10%. The Crit DR node is still arguably worth taking but weakspot feels more consistent.
Also Abolish Blasphemers is nice because Thammer's DPS into ragers/maulers is abysmal dogshit, though I haven't tested how much if any it changes breakpoints.
The easiest node to get rid of is Unfaltering if anything because it does nothing but I think it's comfy
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>>568690017
wait they finally fixed ogryn vaulting?
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New class coming to SM2 in the beginning of 2027

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/404-may-community-update
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>>568690857
Pretty much
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>>568690976
Amateurs
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True Survivor?
More like True Shitter!
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>>568690976
What class/es have been 'highly requested by the community'
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>>568691225
Terminator.
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>>568691225
Librarian, apothecary and chaplain/judiciar. It wont be librarian since they've said they wont do that. Most likely a Judiciar since they are adding Greatswords
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>>568690590
heavy weapons will be the ogryn's gimmick
We don't need shitters of butthole for this
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>>568680676
I forgot, to add onto why FotF over stealth: Because it's more fun (to me), and better in most cases. Movement, attack speed, still guarantees instakill Stealth is still very viable and fun but it's way overkill for regular aurics, bit more useful with the monstrous specials maelstrom modifier, and of course it IS way better if your teammates are all drooling retards and you need to do objectives/clutch/revive.
I typically have the stunstorm grenades to help secure revives in usually fucked situations, but if you go stealth you could totally bring knives + flamer/bolter or something.
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>>568691225
The man himself gets spat out by the warp to help with all of these foul burgles and chaos spawn
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>>568689551
So one
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Should I become a force greatsword psyker main or a relic blade martyrdom main?
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>>568690976
>New class coming to SM2 in the beginning of 2027
It'll be a class that wears terminator armor.
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>>568691485
Depends. Do you want to play a strong psyker build or a mediocre zealot build?
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>>568691340
>He doesn't appreciate the irony of luring the space marine fags into darktide with power armor, but then forcing them to play at nuns
I still don't see why we can't have two different takes of the heavy weapon
You said yourself that you wouldn't like the Ogryn as a Turret
So why can't we have Ogryn using the heavy bolter as a side-grade rumbler
And SoB gets to be a swift redeployable turret,
And that definitely isn't "just Zealot"
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>>568691485
psyker for more damage
zealot for more survivability
the choice is yours
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Dev blog today?
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>>568691416
I tried it again and even though we beat the mission and I clutched I can't get over how bad the thunder hammer feels. I guess its just something that won't click for me.
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>>568692103
That's fair. You're kinda in Cryostasis until a boss shows up, and then you get your 5 seconds of glory where you two/oneshot it unless any of the other 3 players play krak/power sword vet or hive scum and delete them before you get to them.

Pro tip: If you see a Lights Out mission you can specifically bring stealth thammer Zealot and oneshot all the Daemonhosts lying around for shits and giggles (provided they're still idle and not alerted)
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Green Fire!?
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>>568691720
Mainly just want to have fun whilst carving through hordes and bosses without being a paper towel. I've grown tired of Arbitrator and Ogryn.
>>568691916
Isn't it the other way around. I could swear Zealot does more damage or at least burst damage.
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>>568692103
>>568692751
Relic blade shroudfield zealots can achieve similar results
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>>568692892
>Isn't it the other way around.
Ehehehe no. Maybe a long time ago but not today. Psyker greatsword damage goes crazy because he has access to more +finesse and +crit damage boost than zealot.
However zealot can cheat death, which is neat.
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>>568692892
Zealots can ledge bosses with chorus or oneshot them with backstab shroudfield running stab memes, but psykers usually do significantly more overall damage, often double the damage of zealots of similar skill
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>>568693110
>>568693161
Neat, which one do you think is more beneficial to the team? I was leaning towards a stealth zealot rather than a chorus one and a scrier's psyker.
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What causes retards to magdump captain shields and melee monstrosities?
I read the thread and everyone talks about killing monstrosities with swords like it's a normal thing to do.
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Picked up the game last week and I've been enjoying it a lot. Chainsaw Zealot has been fun as fuck, trying Ogryn now. Is the Point-Blank Barrage ability supposed to be crap or am I just missing something?
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>>568693795
Melee killing monstrosities is completely fine because you can block and push while doing it so you keep yourself far more safe, just a bit less dps. Sometimes bosses need to be held in place for a bit until peopel are freed up to deal with them
Magdumping captain shields can be ok depending on the weapon if you need to get rid of it fast
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>>568693834
It's not that ability is terrible, but most ogryn ranged weapons are bad. And cd on PBB is humongous, yes.
It's good with grenade gauntlet though.
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did we finally get rid of the true shitter?
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>>568693795
if they're playing a melee build, they're most likely gonna do more dps in melee

>>568693834
point blank barrage is a meme. It's possible to do big damage with it but if you're new to the game i recommend ignoring it
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>>568693795
ripper guns are oddly good vs captain shields (don't tell the rippergun-hater)
but I don't know any other weapons like that
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>>568693795
>magdump captain shields
They're skittish retards
>and melee monstrosities?
This is the optimal way to fight monsters, baring some exceptions

>>568693834
Gunlugger Ogryn is pretty shit overall but PBB is especially weak, yes
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>>568693649
Stealth is better for revives, objectives and monsters
There are different ways to play melee psykers. Laspistol psykers can kill monsters very fast too but staff psykers can kill massive amounts of melee elites when they show up
>>568693795
You use melee against monsters if your ranged weapons don't do the job quicker
>>568693834
Point blank barrage is for spreading burn stacks with the twin linked stubbers on monsters and hordes of elite enemies. It's not very useful in lower difficulties
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>>568694427
>Gunlugger Ogryn is pretty shit overall but PBB is especially weak, yes
Only in havoc
Grenade gauntlet lugger destroys aurics, I don't think there's any competition
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>>568693834
>Is the Point-Blank Barrage ability supposed to be crap or am I just missing something?
You best be fucking joking. PBB lets you clear the entire screen with just about any weapon.
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>>568694698
>Grenade gauntlet lugger destroys aurics
ok
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let's see if this sparks a debate shitstorm
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>>568694698
>>568694427
PBB has unironically picked up a lot in Havoc. This won't apply to pugs because they never play these comps, but if you play a comp that doesn't need any ammo at all except for the Ogryn he can just blast all fucking game with the new ammo refund. It's extremely strong damage and he's relatively tanky and has good blitzes so it's kind of a powerful overall slot
But yeah it won't ever be leveraged in pugs
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>>568694938
I'm sure you'll do your best to fuel the flames like a faggot
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>>568692103
>I can't get over how bad the thunder hammer feels
For fun try the Ironhelm hammer as a normal weapon. Less monster damage gimmick, but it feels better for the rest of the mission.
Slap skullcrusher/headtaker on it, spam normal heavies. the mixed attack chain gives it a mix of controlling mauler/ragers with relentless sweeps, then a strikedown for finishing them off.
pull out the energized heavies for select use; big targets, reaching out to touch a special/elite hiding in the horde, etc. even power sweeping trash can speed up removal a little if you get bored,
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>>568691893
Both of those ideas are shit.
Just give me the heavy bolter as a regular ranged weapon and let me equip a melee weapon in peace.
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>>568694987
>he can just blast all fucking game with the new ammo refund
Yes, it's taken for rumbler because of reload speed and ammo refund is a very nice buff. But you said it, it's unusable in pubs because of ammo.
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>>568693795
>What causes retards to magdump captain shields
Sometimes having 1 player magdumping the shield can work.
For example, the ogryn ripper gun does surprising amount of damage against void shields.

>inb4 rippergun
I know, the gun is B A D, it has some niche applications.
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>>568694987
>it won't ever be leveraged in pugs
like hell it wont
I just hog all the ammo boxes
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>>568695151
I've been doing it with the twin stubber and even the rippergun in my group and we've genuinely come to the conclusion that regardless of weapon picked, having goonlugger in the "ammo consume" slot is probably the strongest setup you can have. Cleaivng ranged weapons are just kind of OP in this game, even Ogryns shitty ones, so when you have a setup that can actually let you shoot all game long it just tends to be broken
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>>568693834
Yes, PBB is bad. It's a memetier ability.
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>>568694698
>aurics
Every weapon destroys baby mode difficulty. Not much of an achievement.
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>>568695741
And rumbler PBB destroys havocs
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>>568695451
It falls off in random H40s because in those pugs, ammo is the wild west
in aurics you have enough ammo so it shits on the game. In organized groups you have enough ammo so it shits on the game

It's still a meme tier ability, it should be fucking balanced normally instead of relying on external ammo econ factors. But calling it bad is wrong unless all you do is play H40 with randoms
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>>568695435
Well, that's how the game is designed. You are supposed to bring a vet for the aura but vet is not the one that should take tins.
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I swear every PBB naysayer is stuck in 2024 and probably also too retarded to play the retard class.
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>>568693795
Certain guns do well against the captain voidshield; Twin-Linked Stubbers and Ripper guns for ogryn (notably the mk II for the extra pellets), and the high RoF autoguns. The shield has both a damage reduction and a damage cap per hit, which matter less if you're putting out a lot of small hits. (this does not apply to lasguns which have additional reduction and should never be shot into it). A Gunlugger ogryn can take down both Karnak twin shields on its own faster than most other options.

If you can't melee monsters than you never learned to fight them properly.
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>>568696052
I wonder how many of them know the rumbler is very strong in high enemy density but are still too fucking retarded to realize that improving the rumbler ammo economy and dps makes it even stronger
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>>568696052
and that's okay. I don't need others to know everything.
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>>568696052
It's always a thing. Most people don't actually try stuff for themselves, they just follow what youtubers say is meta
So when soemthing gets buffed to the high heavens they'll just basically not know about that until a youtuber realizes he can get views by showing this new take. In other games that can be pretty fast, in DT it takes years
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I've only been playing for a couple of days and I really like the Arbitrator.

What other class would I find fun?
I've tried a bit of the Zealot but prefered the more hybrid gameplay of the Arbitrator.
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>>568696406
there was a time when i used the kickback and it was good but everyone thought it was shit
it made me feel very special and cool
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>>568696352
No. Retards who don't know shit should keep their uninformed opinions to themselves
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>>568696586
Same, I used that thing on release to stagger shooters in a cone so I could just walk up to them and beat their asses. I found it pretty OP even it completely replaced dodging and sliding
but everyone just focused on
>I shot a bulwark in the face and it DIDNT EVEN DIE!
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>>568696052
Taunt is better because it protects the entire team. You become the beacon for the rape train of enemies, instead of your team, meaning they can kill enemies unmolested.
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I swear to god my team becomes a squad of professional assassins and snipers the second I need to kill an elite for pickpocket, elites exploding just out of my reach for days...
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>>568696541
Psyker
>>568696586
Depends on when you were using it because it used to be fairly weak
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>>568696909
If you think they're good then just wait until I start brainbursting something
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>>568696643
Ironic, coming from a PBBtard.
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>>568697072
>this guy insists PBB is good while I think it's bad
>HE must be missing information
How does this angle even make sense? I never understood this shit
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>>568697072
What did i tell you about keeping your uninformed opinion to yourself, retard?
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>>568696861
Taunt is good. Spamming infinite rumbler grenades protects the team just as well and also kills everything dead. Different use cases. I wouldn't put one over the other, even in h40. Assuming PBB rumbler vs GG taunt.
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>>568697229
He desperately needs taunt to keep poxwalkers from killing him
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God, what I would give for fatshit to make a PTB version of shart tide so I can play with the skitarii early while it's still being polished
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>>568697240
Yeah, why aren't you keeping it to yourself, retard?
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According to coopg this is the best ogryn build for havoc 40 currently.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e566ea-4c90-4a53-97b9-373b1c33438e/best-ogryn-build-3
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>>568697490
that exists, but you have to suck up to swedes on discord to become a playtester
start talking to people on the troonopots disc and pretend to be their friend, it's how my buddy got in
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>>568697501
Just repeating
>no u!
Time to pipe down. You had your chance to btfo PBBchads and you just made yourself look retarded
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>>568694938
Well well well. Looks like my prediction came true.
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>>568697836
Looks like my prediction came true>>568695034
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>>568697773
Yeah, your PBBtard ass should pipe down. You just made yourself look retarded.
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>>568696861
>they can kill enemies unmolested.
Or they can ditch you and run away with stealth because you're a stinky abhuman
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>>568697945
nope, i take no part in this. I just called it, since I know people have strong opinions and everyone has blindspots about the game
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>>568698040
>stealth
DECLINED
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>>568698050
>and everyone has blindspots about the game
Yeah, like PBBtards thinking they have cracked the code when in reality they are still huffing the retard gas.
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>>568697961
Maybe you shouldn't start arguments if you have to resort to copying the guy who's btfo-ing you just to compete
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>>568698262
thanks for the reply but I have no dog in this race
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Well I guess I'll give PBB another shot tonight. I've been using the taunt ability and pugs really don't capitalize on it from what I can tell.
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>>568698262
Never thought i would find someone who's so retarded that
>press F to kill everything
Was too complicated for them
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>>568696182
I just pop PBB and start unloading into whatever else is around the captain
zealot can probably one-shot a captain but he can't do it with bombers and snipers and hordes around him, so I kill those
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>>568698706
they only capitalize on taunt if they feel threatened by enemies. Which means taunt is trash on easy difficulty, but very good on hard difficulty
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The rippertard is now shilling for PBB I see.
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Every person here thinking that Shitters of Butthole or Redditgryn will get the heavy bolter as a weapon.
But they aren't ready for the skitarii sweep.
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>>568698706
Don't bother in lower difficulties. You won't get the number of enemy spawns needed to utilize a screen clear ability

Bullrush is more useful in easy difficulties
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>>568698913
If skitarii had more than 6 weapons then he would have more than 6 premium deluxe weapon skins, sorry to inform
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>>568698398
Maybe PBBtards shouldn't start arguments if you're just gonna resort to copying the guy who's btfo-ing you just to compete.
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>>568698854
You got so utterly ass raped that you're calling the rippertranny haters for backup
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>>568699079
It's the rippertroon. He is now shilling for PBB because everyone spanked him when he tried saying the rippergun is viable. He will spend hours and hours arguing about this and trolling just to protect his izzat.
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>>568699067
>If skitarii had more than 6 weapons
Who said anything about weapons?
1 of skitarii's abilities will be pulling out a heavy bolter and it works exactly like the Outcast Engineers gun from Ratclick.
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>>568694426
Twon-linked stubbers also shred shields. At least on my PBB build, haven't tried it raw.
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Debate tier list!!!!!!!!!

>S
PBB
>A
havoc vs auric
>B
beams vs bolts
>C
rippergun
>D
boltgun vs bolt pistol
>E
doomers vs hopers
>F
tide games vs other games
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>>568699234
That would be cool but I won't get my hopes up with Fatshark, it'll be like
>mini dash with 3 charges
>selfbuff
>some sort of aoe buff effect for allies
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>>568697071
If it's any consolation I feel bad every time I do it, my "kill priority target" reflexes fire before I recognize what's happening, sometimes. That's why I shoot bursters too I'm sorry
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>>568699429
You forgot the OG
>ogryn knife sucks and can't kill anything
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>>568699429
>PBB
>Ever being S tier in anything
It's at best fucking C tier even in arguments. Only people who argue that it is good are tardos who don't even actually play havoc.
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>>568699079
You ran out of steam very quickly. You aren't smart or confident enough to defend your opinion but you still want to punish me for dunking on you
>>568699226
Don't try to play detective. You don't exactly have the intellect for it
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>>568699602
>>568699429
I also remember the guy who for months on end would keep screeching that
>Ogryn is not a frontliner he's a backliner, he has to stop the poxwalkers from walking up to the psyker from behind
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>accidentally bound my mouse click to bring up the scoreboard
>can't click "mod options" to fix it because it just brings up the scoreboard
Wasn't expecting to get soft-locked on darktide of all things
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>>568699687
You ran out of steam very quickly. You PBBtards aren't smart or confident enough to defend your shit ability but you still want to punish me for bodying your freak ass.
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>>568699649
it's in S because of how volatile it is. Notice how engaged you are? The mere mention of PBB creates outrage every single time.
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>>568699649
You got cock smacked several posts ago >>568696347
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>>568699687
Looks like I hit the nail on the head.
Rippertroon, just give up. Nobody will ever think it's good, and nobody will ever think PBB is good.
You forgot your full stop again, by the way.
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Skitarii Will have 11 weapons
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>>568699832
>too retarded and uninformed to debate
>too boring and uncreative to troll
Is there anything you're good at?
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>>568699959
as the original ripperchad, it's funny watching you accuse others of being me
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>>568695059
The ironhelm hammer managed to be worse than the thunderhammer. I didn't think it was possible but fucking hell. If anything I now have an actual revulsion towards using the hammer.
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>>568700085
>too retarded and stupid to debate
>too boring and soulless to troll
Is there anything you PBBtards are good at?
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>>568699769
>>568699602
don't forget krak vs frag. That's a classic.
(un)Fortunately they seem to be rather balanced today.
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>pooping and thinking about the ongoing argument on /coopg/
>get an idea for a great retort
>waddle back to pc carefully to btfo the rippertroon before wiping so I dont forget
>accidentally spread my cheeks too much when bending over the chair to type
>shit nugget falls on my pc chair
I can't get this smell out fuck lol
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Does the rippergun recoil still scale inversely with the stat?
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>>568691126
oh neat
also the biggest redpill, once you get true survivor, you don't have to play as hard anymore
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>>568700484
i dont remember it getting fixed so i assume so
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>>568689739
>new mission where you need to escort the heavy duty servitor to a door for it to blast open
>it has its own healthbar
>need to keep enemies away from it while it slowly trundles through half the level
>then gets into position and starts to charge the engine
>hold your ground until it fires
>then its a mad dash to the end of the level and the objective
>beyond the door its HISTG spawns as they try to kill you to keep you from reaching the objective
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>>568699959
I don't expect retarded shitters like you to think it's good. You wouldn't be a retarded shitter if you were able to figure such things out by yourself, but don't try to speak for other players

Shitting on the ripper won't support your anti-PBB argument and your attempt to do so is very desperate and pathetic
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>>568700484
There's been nothing about it in any patch notes, so it is most likely not fixed.
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>>568700453
Hate when that happens.
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Crazy how the PBB hating trannies have managed to make the anti-ripper chads look bad
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Okay shredder scum might be the first build with him that I actually like
Am I crazy for taking a 100% viscosity damage/cd and just hitting it after every other Desperado to make the next come back faster? The way I see it, it reduces ammo pressure even more by making my shots kill faster while Desperado isn't up.
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>>568700749
I don't expect retarded PBBtards like you to know what's good. You wouldn't be a retarded shitter if you were able to figure such things out by yourself, but don't try to speak for other players

Shitting on other players won't support your pro-PBB argument and your attempt to do so is very desperate and pathetic
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I play on Heresy and I shoot zombies because it's fun
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>>568693649
If you're already building for crit an electro staff on scriers psyker gives you decent ranged damage to take out specials or packs of gunners without relying on ammo. Being able to right click and stun a small group of enemies with the lightning gives you some crowd control without having to go smite, but its usually easier to just use the sword unless you're facing a huge wall of armor.
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How popular is arbites in public lobbies? Been a while since the last time I played and don't have the game installed at the moment to check. Thinking of buying arbites on sale now but not if there's already gonna be one or two in every single lobby I join.
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>>568701004
You're not crazy for it. But since the class has defacto infinite ammo from dickpocket, i wouldn't worry too much about ammo pressure.
Also attack-speed-heroin is just really fun with the Shredder. Become the A-10.
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>>568701265
I'd say they're very common at least at lower levels
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>>568701005
Imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness
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>>568701132
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>>568701265
They're super popular, gonna have to wait a bit longer to play the super special class alone. Or you could just not give a fuck and play what you want.
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>>568701306
Yeah it's something I'll probably reallocate later, I still gotta get used to using pickpocket effectively
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Damn this anti-PBB retarded is seriously crashing out right now. I didn't pay attention to the ripper arguments but the ripper lover somehow managed to make him his mindbroken cumslave
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>>568700484
yeah but it's barely a difference, you still wanna dump ammo for blaze away
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>>568701132
leave this place fun-haver, you are too nice for this thread
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>>568701265
They are really popular but honestly I see a good mix of all the classes, nothing stands out as something I see too much or too little of.
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>>568701696
I think psykers have been extra popular lately
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Got his ass...
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>>568701265
Somewhat common, its a fun class anon you should try it. I see a lot more vets and scum than I do arbys.
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>play taunt
>completely dominate but have to try sometimes
>play PBB
>completely dominate without even having to think
Truly a dogshit ability
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>>568701818
auric is unplayable because you can't get a single lobby without an inferno staff psyker, or an EK shriek psyker, or an assail spamming psyker, or a smite spamming psyker, or a greatsword psyker, etc
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>>568700453
Do Ogryn players really? By the emperor you want a heavy bolter and you aren't even potty trained!?
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Post that arbites webm with the vet going for the ammo, but the ogryn yoinks it.
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>play infiltrate vet
>just want the penance done and the cosmetic jacket
>team keeps shooting the elites I'm trying to shank before I can get to them
>manage to only get a few kills of my own per mission
truly the dark ide of our times
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>>568702007
WTF do you want em to do? Laspistol psyker?
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>>568701876
>completely dominate without even having to think
And yet there are shitters so shitty that they can't figure out how to make it work

I don't mind the fact that shitters exist, but they shouldn't think that they have any business arguing with good players
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>>568702141
Have you tried not playing on uprising?
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>>568702007
I play trauma psyker.
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>>568702258
i want psyker players to kill themselves
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>>568702258
shock maul psyker
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>>568700093
based ripperLORD
I, too, enjoy the ripper gun
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>>568698913
Those are Hastarii with Neutron Fusils, not Heavy Bolters. Mechanicus elite forces don't really use basic bitch Bolters that much, aside from maybe putting them on Servitors and using the really big ones on Automata and various Knights/Titans.
>hurr what's the difference
Neutron Fusils are stats-wise Lascannons and EMP weapons in lore.
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>>568702141
>dark ide
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>>568702381
trauma psyker is included in the etc, especially if you bring that shit in a CIVI
>>568702258
the psyker players should be happy with devils claw, shredder autopistol, and brain burst
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>>568702007
What did the bad psycherr do to you anon?
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>>568702141
This? Doesn't say anything about killing elites, I got it done just unstealthing on packs of gribblies
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>>568700453
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>>568702141
>stealth
>attack groaner pack
>???
>penance
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>>568702007
>auric is unplayable
I think your build might be unplayable
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>>568700453
Best post in a while
>>568698913
Looks sick
Better than shitters of butthole at least
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>>568690976
meh
>>568691074
we need more alpha legion stuff honestly
>>568691434
i didn’t know sm2 had those
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>>568699827
>True shitter bricks his game and banishes himself to the modder hell, by overdosing on performance enhancing mods to increase his DPS parse by 1.4% on average
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>true shitter
This like when poor and retarded people convince themselves that people who make good money are dishonest thieves
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>shivs are fun
>but so is combat knife
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>>568704840
2 funs? That's too many funs
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>>568704482
Nah I'm an auricbab I just want feedback on how I'm doing compared to everyone else.
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What color you pickin' anons? White for me.
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>>568705054
>White for me.
SKKKitarii
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>>568702482
They can bolt heavy bolters on. They are strong enough for it.
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>>568705054
Also, the devblog dropped.
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>>568705054
Gotta be the classic red for me
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>>568701413
Imitation really is the greatest form of flattery that your PBBtard mediocrity can pay greatness to
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>>568704967
The feed back is pretty simple
Are you dying a lot?
If no then you're probably doing good
If yes then what are you dying to?
A DPS parse wont save you from standing in shit or getting eaten by dogs
It wont make better at killing every boss, special, elite and ogryn in the game
Because you need to learn how to kill them all
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>>568705054
Man, the orange one looks like shit.
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>>568705054
>>568705468
Am I the only one who likes the orange?
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Enjoy your nugget skitties
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>>568704934
ai cri a da tim
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>>568705468
>>568705571
i need to wait and see how the orange will look with the lighting in game, but from that image the chosen color just doesn't feel very good to look at
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THEY TOOK MY ASS! I CANT SHIT! HELP ME REJECTS!
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>>568705054
I'm going white even if I don't even know what forge world it is
I just like the drip
And I'm going medicae servoskull anyway, might as well look the part
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>>568705383
I just like data man, why you gotta come at me like this
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>>568705872
>>568705615
>>568705054
What's all this?
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>>568705054
assassins creed loooking ass head ass
also I thought admechs only wear red, what does orange and white mean?
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https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feature-highlight-skitarii-visual-design/122020
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>>568705054
>original Mars red is the only good one
Grim
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>>568705209
"No."
t.Games Workshop
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>>568705927
He's a mentally ill retarded retail worker who hates scoreboards because they let everyone know how much he sucks
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dude they made gloam unusable for c4sh in bl4 I'm so upset
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>>568705872
Absolutely shitter shattered
Hadron you sick fuck why are you harvesting human anuses?
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>>568706020
Oh its another revolver
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>>568705927
there's a couple spergs that farm (You)s by having melties anytime someone mentions using scoreboard or QoL mods, and they usually try to bait specifically havoc players who still have an ego about beating havoc by implying their mod use means their havoc wins are cheated and they're actually a malice tier player. Just ignore em.
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>>568706265
>doomjeets were right
Lmao
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>>568705615
Why is giving them a horrifying zombie monster face part of the skittarization process?
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>>568705960
They're from forge worlds other than mars.
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>>568705927
>I just like data man
Don't we all?
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>>568705960
read the devblog instead of posting stupid questions here
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>>568706343
They get more and more mechanized throughout their lives and they also potentially use weaponry that slowly radiation poisons them.
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>>568706479
Oh right the radiation, I knew that it just didn't occur to me.
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25 DAYS UNTIL SKITARII
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>>568706343
Because the Mechanicus are basically the Strog from Quake in terms of body horror
I mean you see them turn a traitor into a servitor
And you hear medicae servitors with broken consciousnesses
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>>568706556
The phosphor gun came first
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>>568706447
sorry didn't see it until after I posted, also it's not a stupid question
you, are the one who is stupid
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>>568706265
I mean I hope it will be fun to use but how are they going to differentiate it from the snub nose?
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>>568705257
Where?
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>>568706668
It just seems like you could still get all the robot parts and not have to remove your face, is all I'm sayin'.
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>>568706343
Because its grimdark. Same as the mechanicus in the word bearers omnibus asking if the guard troops will let them have the dead soldiers to feed to their skiitari. Just a good use of materials, the dead don't need those bodies anymore and thats calories baby!
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>>568706747
The arbites shotpistol was significantly different from the revolver despite being revolver shaped and now you're asking how a flare gun is different from a regular gun
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>>568705615
>no female fucknuggets
boooooo

>>568706265
>break action revolver that spins its cylinder nonsensically before every shot
if this isn't skit's best gun I'm actually going to shit and piss all over sweden from 40,000 feet so it freezes and becomes shit and piss icicle death
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>>568706995
Fair enough. Hopefully I'm just lacking in imagination and Fatshark won't be lazy with it.
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>>568706265
>>568706325
>gun that looks exactly like a revolver is a revolver

Why is this a surprise?
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This concept art shows that they design DLC class cosmetics around existing assets from the basegame they can re-use.
I'm sure some degree of this is just reality for smaller studios, but it's kind of sad to be putting that in a dev blog for a 200 man studio.
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>>568705960
Mars wears red. Most other forge world incorporate red (inside coat on the Ryza orange one and pants on the Metalica white one), but have their own colours as well.
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>>568706343
Because Admech doesn't care about human life or its form.
You are only worth the knowledge you have, if you have nothing worth while, they won't hesitate to cut you up into a servitor to serve some sort of function.
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>>568705615
I dunno I can barely tell them apart from hive scum desu
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>>568705571
I think it'll make you look very cute, pumpkin.
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>THUNK
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>>568707227
Seems like having your face removed would hurt a lot though
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>>568706265
>>568707028
it spins the chamber before shooting, maybe it'll have a charge up like the helbore or plasma gun that's represented by the chamber speed increasing to max? How do the phosphur blast pistols work in lore cause a quick trip to the wiki doesn't tell me anything.
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>>568706779
Literally the same place it always drops, the forums.
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>>568707475
>speedloader
Thank The Omnissiah
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>>568706265
You guys sure that's spinning? Could also be like it's vibrating as it charges up to fire
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>>568705872
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>>568707736
>You guys sure that's spinning?
That's how revolvers work
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>>568707143
I assumed all that crap in the middle was just generic scifi tech tubez or whatnot, and like maybe there was a charge-battery in the back or whatever
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>>568707840
That doesn't look like the single rotation of a revolver moving to the next chamber though, which is what I assume you mean.
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>>568706687
The phosphor pistol came out in 2015.
Google is telling me this nerf gun came out in 2005.
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>>568707736
And how will the bullet get to the barrel?
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Branx Minor gang report in
Who else is going to be from the Darktide OC planet?
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>>568708114
It can also rotate cylinders like a normal revolver? I just think it rapidly spinning before every shot is too farcical of an idea for a revolver style weapon.
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>>568707957
You can literally see the hinge for the break action.
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>>568707980
it looks like it's spinning rapidly and making full revolutions, hence the blur of the lighting. Like it's a centrifuge that spins and charges the shots somehow nonsensically and epicly before it fires
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>>568707980
It shows it spinning when the trigger is pulled and stopping when the shot is fired. Like a revolver
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>>568708469
Oh yeah okay I see what you mean, yeah okay that actually is probably what it is. I didn't make the connection that it just keeps spinning till you release the trigger, hence a charge up function. I thought the spinning would be like, you pull the trigger and it spins first and the hammer just slams a random cylinder to fire it
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>>568708391
>>568708243
>>568707513
Assuming it'll do a retarded whirly spin before every shot, then my best headcanon explanation is that the rotation agitates the phosphor ammunition, changing it from a relatively stable and safe state to the active burny glowy state that phosphor weapons are known for.
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>>568708317
Eh again who knows, could just as easily have been a round thing the model designer stuck on cos he was just sticking round things wherever, GW's designers are infamous no-guns who'll design weapons with a clear lack of understanding of how guns work
>hmm what if THIS boltgun had the little fin at the end underneath it instead, yeah that looks cool
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>>568708897
kek what the fuck is that
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>>568708897
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>>568699429
You forgot inconsequential psyker mechanics.
For some reason the things that lead to the same place or are largely irrelevant with psyker are the things that people are the absolute most opinionated about for seemingly no reason, like warp resistance being the dumpstat on blaze force sword. Or lacking/having crack of bone on scriers
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>>568707513
Phospor weapons fire a burning projectile that sticks to the enemy. Think Judge Dredd's hotshots.
>>568708897
It's not even that bad. The "little fin" could easily be a handstop and it's not like Marines actually need ironsights that much.
The right one is retarded in the classic way that almost all Bolters tend to be, which is that the barrel doesn't line up with the chamber but the magazine being there all the way at the back isn't even that bad. You could make it feed. Would it be pointless complexity? Yeah...
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>>568705054
The white one is the livery of the Forge World Metallica.
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>phosphor blast pistol has a burning effect, is anti armor, and marks the target for allies
we're finally getting an unironic revolver class, bless
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>>568708897
I feel like bullpup designs don't really fit the setting.
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see this guy's are clearly revolvers also wtf why do they have cowboys
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>>568709419
>come up with a new mechanic?
>nah, just roll 3 existing ones into it
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>even fatshark acknowledges that space cop and space hobo, along with the original 4 space hobos were not 40k enough
grim, dark even
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>>568705884
>>568706196
>>568705872
Kek
>>568706668
The Strogg if they were even cooler yes
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>>568707481
Do you think a nail feels pain when it feels the strike of a hammer? Of course not. Same logic. :)
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>gg
>some third worlder goes "99" because they don't have latin alphabet
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>>568710559
>feels the strike of a hammer
You just said that the nail feels
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>>568708163
It doesn’t really make a difference does it? So maybe
>>568710087
At least they’re capable of introspect I guess, too bad it won’t amount to anything (probably)
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>>568710829
That's cute but what the fuck lmao even HK server says "GG"
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>>568710829
>>568711319
>cute
It's Russian draft dodgers
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>>568711810
They are based then.
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>>568711319
cyrillic script goes "nn" instead of "gg"
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>>568710087
The 4 original classes were already closest possible to the core of 40k.
Ogryn is actual kino and one of the better thought out and unique classes Fatshark has actually created. He plays different and feels different from the regular humie classes.
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>>568711963
No they should also get killed
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>>568683374
Putting crit talents on a non-crit weapon without BP doesn't do anything. If he made those changes, he'd be throwing those talent points away.
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>>568712141
facts beat feelings, fatshark says the original 4 weren't 40k so they aren't
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>>568712161
Nah.
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>>568708897
that fin is a bayonet lug
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(You) WILL be able to name your skit I-L0V3-8008135
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>>568713649
Can't wait to become 6969-420L0RD
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>>568713649
T045T3R-F00K3R
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>>568713649
i wonder if i could get away with NI-99-ER
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>>568714702
Probably not for long
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>tried out relic blade after someone recommended it
>makes zealot actually fun
I'm too retarded to pull of the chain sprint heavies though so I couldn't one shot any bosses.
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>>568715098
What do you find fun about it?
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>>568712279
>fatshark says
No matter how fat Matte from Fatshark might be, he does not represent the entire studio.
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>>568715294
The attack chains feel smooth and cleaving through chaff is nice. Also empowering the blade and fighting elites feels good.
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>>568715098
Tap block to animation cancel, then start sprinting. If you can't consistently get the stab heavy, wait longer after sprinting before you press attack, and hold it for longer. It's just a matter of getting used to the timing. You'll figure it out. Block cancelling helps a ton.
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>>568713649
>skiitari 867-5309 reporting for duty
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>>568716325
J3NNY..
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>vermintide 3 is revealed
>they've added sprinting and sliding
I think this would unironically ruin the game.
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>>568676212
It's entirely possible for these reasons >>568619851. It fits gameplay and thematically so I fully expect it when they need some money.

>>568657334
>>568660491
That's not how it works. They're not tiers above and below each other. One doesn't outrank the other. They are separate branches of the Inquisition. Hereticus specializes in human and chaos adversaries and corruption from within, Xenos specializes in non-human adversaries, and Maleus specializes in deamons. They all deal with every level of threat that falls under their specializations, and all three can destroy entire planets if they need to. Grey Knights killing friendlies who know about them is a separate issue, that's for secrecy so deamons don't learn their methods.

>>568679035
The situation on tertium absolutely falls under the purview of what the ordo hereticus specializes in, and is absolutely a situation where the SoB could be called in. An entire guard regiment went rogue and is disrupting production of an important planet. In fact in a situation like this, the only lore reason they haven't already been called is the communication and travel issues they said are happening in the area.
It's also not true that marines and sob are only called in when the planet is already destroyed or will be fully destroyed. They save people and planets all the time. sob especially, guarding planets and pushing incursions off imperial planets is one of their primary jobs.

>>568682936
If sob are added to the game, they would have a heavy bolter. For all of their faults, fatshark does generally do lore things fine, and the heavy bolter is one of the sob primary weapons. They would have multimeltas and heavy flamers as well.

>>568681527
>>568619851
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>>568715302
if that quote was a discord or twitter screencap you'd have a point, but it's an interview conducted by fatshark, with that quote being selected, highlighted, and displayed with prominence
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>>568713649
I'm naming mine V4-RL3T
Wait can we use dashes though?
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>>568708163
I might make two skitters. I cannot choose between the OG Mars or the donut steel white of Branx Minor.

...oh Branx Minor, more like bowel movement! There. You rats can have that crappy one for free.
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>>568717790
Dashes are what you're supposed to use. Even on the standard classes
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>>568718109
Oh, I guess I've never noticed.
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>>568717392
>that's for secrecy so deamons don't learn their methods.
It’s more to prevent people from knowing about Chaos in general given it’s a memetic cognitohazard that even knowing about can cause great harm. Rest is true. Ordos don’t outrank each other. If anything Hereticus might actually ironically command the most respect among the Imperium because it’s their Inquisitors that always have everyone on edge.
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>>568719679
Shotgun!
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>>568719679
This looks weirdly familiar.
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>>568719679
Would make an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor squint.
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>>568719679
What in the phantom menace is that shit
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I hate snipers
I hate trappers
I hate bombers
I hate flamers
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>>568719856
You probably are thinking of the Separatist armored assault tank from Star Wars.
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>>568707475
>Moon clips
I'd cum
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>>568717392
>and the heavy bolter is one of the sob primary weapons
It is not, only for the sisters heavy weapon squads.
It's not a standard armament at all.
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>>568707481
theyre a big guy
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>transonic short sword and dagger dual wield
>phosphor blast revolver
>servoskull that either does ranged revives or does objectives remotely
oh fuck I'm gonna pre
don't even show me the combat abilities or I'll blow
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>>568722761
>combat ability dashes through enemies like handmaiden's with 3 charges
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>>568717392
>An entire guard regiment went rogue and is disrupting production of an important planet.
This the average tuesday for the Imperium, guard regiments go traitor every other week, they are not going to waste Sisters of Battle on something like that, or even some random dipshit cultists.
What Admonition is doing is small potatoes over all.
Nevermind that the entire planet is still being kept together by 3 crackheads and a retard of a substantial size, they don't need sisters for this.

People entire miss the point of Darktide. The point is that what is happening on Atoma is a drop in the bucket for average day to day within the Imperium. There's rebellions and chaos cult uprisings all over the fucking place, even on Terra, every few weeks.
Even if there was no warp storms isolating the system and Grendyl and Rannick asked for reinforcements, the Adeptus Administratum is just going to look at the form with
>"Sororitas and space marines needed? On Atoma Prime for some renegade guard regiment and small time cult? What is this backwater system? Who do these faggots think they are?"
>"Send them 4 regiments of cadian guard, they will make do with that. They won't get anything else."
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>>568723845
no, most worlds are very mundane, the average imperial citizen isnt dying to traitors, aliens, or daemons, its going to be starvation because the shipment from the agriworld got delayed again, getting shivved by some ganger, or the radiation shield failed in one of the lower levels and everyone got cancer
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>>568722542
incorrect. The heavy bolter is indeed an option in the standard battleline infantry battle sister squad.
The heavy flamer and multi-melta are options as well.

You are thinking of Retributors, who can ALSO take all of these options, but it absolutely is in fact an option for the regular battleline as well.

This has always been the case by the way, so you're not even going by outdated or retconned information, you're just wrong. Battleline sob have been able to take these forever. I've played the faction since 4th edition and have 3500 points of them.

The trinity of weapons SoB specialize in is bolter, flamer, and melta. This includes the larger versions of all three. They are part of the faction identity.

If sob are added to darktide, they will come with heavy bolters, heavy flamers, and multimeltas as the class identity weapons.

>>568723845
Also not true. There are billions of sob around the galaxy and fighting heretic incursions is their main job. They are not rare like astartes are, they are the standard troop of the church. A planet that has important industrial export like atoma being disrupted by a chaos incursion is absolutely the SoB bread and butter job. It would be completely lore compliant to have them show up.
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>>568724581
>they will come with heavy bolters, heavy flamers, and multimeltas
Heavy Bolter is Ogryn's special weapon.
Flamer is Zealot's special weapon.
Melta will be Veteran's special weapon.
Cope and seethe agptroon
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>unlock Damnation
>First mission I play I am paired up with 3 level 30 players who do not seem to know how to use the Auspex to scan objectives nor hack in defense situations
What the fuck
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>>568724425
That still does not change the fact that guard regiment going traitor means absolutely nothing to the Imperium.
Also average human life is not really that mundane within the Imperium.

It's been stated multiple times in codexes and novels that there are rebellions breaking out and starting all over the damn Imperium basically everyday. Which is what the Imperium spends most of its time stamping out by just killing and executing every single civilian who partook in the rebellion. Because Imperium as an authoritarian shithole does not give a shit about human life, it's a non-starter for them.
>how many rioters did we execute this time around?
>500 000 executed? 300 000 lobotomized into servitors?
>Just whip and work the remaining populace a wee bit harder to keep the same productivity levels. Increase the working shifts from 13 hours to 16 hours.
This is how the Imperium operates. It does not care.
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>>568725119
>base game classes
>getting fun toys ever again when they could be sold instead
hahahaha, delululu
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>>568724581
>There are billions of sob around the galaxy
There are not.
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>>568725283
Wait until you get to auric and get 3 teammates farming the same spawn door and collectively going down to a single burster.
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>>568725283
damnation teammates are generally pretty poor, and i wouldn't be surprised if there are far more console users on that diff than on auric
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>>568725293
A whole city falling to a chaos incursion is actually out of the ordinary, and it will require all survivors to be purged after it's taken back. The fact that the cult is summoning daemons en masse means the cult is sufficiently advanced to warrant the Ordo Malleus to get involved.
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>>568725283
The Fan event with the batteries is where runs go to die because the team just wants to kill the endless horde instead of carrying batteries. I wouldn't mind if they didn't die all the time.
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>>568724581
There’s definitely not billions. They’re supposed to have rough party in numbers with Arbites and Scions, neither of which number that many.
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there are sisters guarding every shrine
the moebian domain has a shrine world in it
there are sisters of battle in vast numbers here, don't be silly
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>>568689016
Why does zealot feel so weak bros i want to roleplay an insane muh emperor fanatic but i just can’t do it. I can play every other class just fine and feel like i am meaningfully contributing. On zealot i can’t even survive. I can’t get the hang of the weapons, i want to like the thammer and the big chainsword but they have such weird unforgiving movesets that i can’t even survive in hordes sometimes.
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>>568725293
In Forges of Mars there's a worker revolt that demands Mechanicus improve their working conditions.
They're in a precarious situation so they reach an agreement instead of putting it down with force. There's a bit of a surprise when productivity actually increases when they do, because according to their calculations and logic it should have decreased since the workers work less hours now.
Funnily enough Black Templars helped to bring that about.
Anyhow I'd say that Imperium in general doesn't care but they also broadly understand that willing workers and soldiers are better than unwilling slaves, it just isn't always possible.
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>>568728384
i'd say im pretty good at zealot and even i can struggle with the hammer and chainsword

honestly the most op weapon i've played with on zealot isn't relic blade but the tactical axe, it kills everything so easily, even crushers die from a few seconds of light attack spam
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>>568728384
Relic blade.
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>>568728751
NTA obviously
Tac axe is pretty incredible in auric, but from what I've used it in havoc 40, I definitely found myself missing the horde clear and sprint poke damage, especially on bosses. I feel like arbitrator uses it much, much better.
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>>568728384
Would you like a build for easy kino with the eviscerator?
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>>568726360
>A whole city falling to a chaos incursion
The whole of Tertium *hasn't* fallen to a chaos incursion. Most of the hive is still under Imperial control, not chaos control.
The places missions take place in and places we fight in just happen to be the highest concentrations of traitor presence. Explaining why we go there to do missions, it's to disrupt their hold over those areas.
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>>568728384
TH is just kind of a mediocre as fuck, and by comparison to the stronger weapons in the game, it seems pretty bad.

Eviscerator, on the other hand, is quite good but takes some getting used to. Personally, I think the Mk XV is by far the better mark. Your light spam with it cleaves easily, and its vertical heavies and pushstab are both good for single target when you don't have the safety to commit to a full special+heavy. It makes the Mk XV a lot more versatile than the other version. Use Shred+Rampage or Shred+Perfect Strike if you aren't already. Perfect Strike with BP enables swinging lights into mixed hordes, which can sometimes be quite helpful for safety, but Rampage is just overall more damage.

As for why Zealot feels weak, other classes just get more sources of multiplicative damage and better rending access. Also better weapons. A Vet with the Powersword will kill a Crusher faster and more safely than a Zealot with a Thunder Hammer while also being superior at cleaving (mixed) hordes. And comparing the Psyker's GS to the Relic Blade hurts.
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>>568728408
What you described is an extremely rare event that basically happens once in a thousand years within the Imperium and is not at all the norm.
In the Imperium, you and your life only exists to serve and be exploited by the system. That's the point and that is your lot in life.
This is the reason why there's rebellions all across the Imperium every day, and it is a non-starter for the Imperium because have zero qualms about using lethal force to put down a riot to make you an example as to what happens if you ever dare to rebel.
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>>568730289
>A Vet with the Powersword
Remove this weapon from the class and Zealot instantly looks a LOT better. But they won't do it because vetfags (china) cries and review bombs the game. There's no reason PS6 should be getting away with like 10K boss damage per hit.
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>>568724581
Heavy bolter is still better for ogryn.
We don't need another zealot whose only gimmick is done by another pre-xisting class better anyway.
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>>568730289
the XV is just better at everything, the only downside to it is you might fall asleep from all the light attack spamming.
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>>568690210
>Doesn't know how to rocket jump
ngmi
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>>568726360
Speaking of daemons, isnt the beast of nurgle a mid-tier daemon that requires a warp connection? If those exist, plaguebearers and toads and other lesser things should also exist. Why no nurgle sorcerer boss? Why no plaguebearers that damage you with their rusty swords , making your corruption completely unremovable?
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>>568731152
Darktide creator Obese Fish is sleeping at the wheel.
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>>568731152
because they wanted to make stormvermin boss for darktide (projectile beam attack + weakspot in the back) and beast of nurgle was the best fit
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>>568730908
I vastly prefer the mkIII eviscerator. Much better elite cleanup while light spamming through your problems.
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>>568731905
There are no problems left to clean up once I get done cleavemaxxing everything in sight
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>>568728408
>unwilling slaves
Funny, the same book also features naval ratings, which are all enslaved in vast quantities to keep the void ships running.
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>>568730908
Mk3 light spam is still good into hordes and makes quick work of lighter elites. I just hate how it comparatively struggles against armor.
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>>568732143
Yes, and they revolt. Successfully.
Do you have reading comprehension issues?
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>needle gun
Jesus this thing is busted. Since all of the damage comes from the DoT I'm guessing damage is the dump stat.
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>>568732601
Yeah makes sense, anti-armor is the only reason I use the eviscy at all, perfect strike is so good
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>>568732712
I really like using the chainaxe with martyrdom for the sound design and mulching, but the evis really is just better.
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How come the Aquilas event counter stopped going up in real time?

Also doesn't seem like we're going to reach the 500 lmao
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>>568733432
Fatshark won't let the event fail, it would be an embarrassment if it did.
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>>568733432
yeah when is the event even ending? i was going to uninstall and take a break until skitarii comes out but i have to keep launching the game and checking
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>>568733690
These events usually run for a couple of weeks, but since it's a skitarii lead up, they might keep it running all the way up to release.
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>>568733828
i was thinking that as well, i might just uninstall but knowing my luck the aquilas will disappear the day before skitarii comes out or some shit
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>>568734074
Do you desperately need the aquilas or something? Fretting this much about it is a very FOMO kind of thing to be doing.
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>>568732629
No, I just started the first novel. Didn't realize those are the workers you're talking about. However, ratings being shanghaied isn't a unique occurrence, that's just how it's done in the Imperium.
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>>568734323
i don't have any interest in buying cosmetics but i would still like to get one eventually and it's not like many events give out aquilas, only have 500 from that event a few months ago

i only do this kind of thing for games i'm really invested in, hence why i wanted to take a short break so that skitarii feels more fresh

but yeah, FOMO basically
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>>568733681
I think it would be funny and in tune with the game setting to not just give it to us
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>>568733690
12 days 12 hours left.
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>>568732673
It’s also the coolest weapon of the class
>>568731152
BoNs are literal daemonic beasts, they’re the lowest on the totem pole, basically the equivalent of fauna in Nurgle’s garden. Everything requires a warp connection. All of those other things *could* be possible, but the explanation is obviously that FS can’t or doesnt want to. For an in universe one, it could be that Admonition’s sorcerers just don’t know to make/summon them, which makes sense given how mid~tier Admonition is in general.
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>>568734460
It's a point raised by workers - they realize that in Imperium everyone must serve, one way or another, so their issues aren't really about being kidnapped and forced to work, it's that they are treated like shit while at it and would rather work willingly than as slaves.
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>>568732919
Chaxe was the superior option for a long time. I haven't used it in a good while though. Been enjoying the engoodening of Eviscerator too much.
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>>568732673
Damage or Stagger. Doesn't matter. Stagger might be worth it in niche scenarios, damage in other niche scenarios.
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>>568728384
There are different marks of weapons. One of the eviscerators swings back and forth on light attacks and does overheads on heavy attacks. Very simple
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>try to play havoc
>every single fucking lobby there is a retarded stealth nigger zealot
>nobody brings chorus
>fucking one brought an autopistol of all fucking things
I hate these fucking retards. Honestly just makes me want to quit playing havoc all together.
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>>568736434
>he needs everyone to be playing meta builds to enjoy havoc
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>>568736434
host your own and reject all zealots no matter what, your experience will improve by a hundredfold
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>>568736670
this is what i do but i reject all psykers and book zealots and let based zealots in instead
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>>568731152
>isnt the beast of nurgle a mid-tier daemon
It's not even mid tier, it's a bottom of the barrel daemon. They are technically not even daemons, but daemonic beasts, aka basically animals.
Even the daemonhosts we encounter are nothing special as you can see by how weak they are. Meaning the daemons bound inside them are weak, they are basically dollar store daemonhosts made by the dozen.

Which makes sense from a story perspective, because it is very likely that all daemonhosts we encounter are just failed experiments the Admonition has "discarded".
What are they experimenting for then? Well remember Dark Communion and the cult leaders stringing up Rodin's corpse onto the chaos star as they pump his body full Crack and Meth as they chant "Rise Great One!".
It's very obvious they were trying to summon a Great Unclean One into real space. But remember, that still does not at all guarantee they would succeeded, Chaos and its gods are a fickle mistress. And the nature of Warp is very random at its core.
You can't guarantee what happens.
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>>568737142
>It's very obvious they were trying to summon a Great Unclean One into real space
*AND to make a daemonhost out of Rodin's body and bind a Great Unclean One inside it.
Forgot to add that.
I'm fucking tired.
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>>568736434
Low skill complaining lmaoooooo
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>>568736434
>why is no one carrying me?
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>>568728384
Relic blade and cowboy revolver is fun as fuck my boy
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Adding stealth to Tide games was the biggest mistake Fatshark ever made and they should have never brought it back.
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>>568710087
Maybe they will finally stop hating darktide and give it at least 30% of support they gave vermintide
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>blah blah blah classes that aren't skitarii
zzzzZZZZZZ
no one cares about those boring old grandpa classes
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Sisters shouldn't be the next class.
Eldar would be cooler and more interesting.
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next class should just be magnus
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>Eldar would be cooler and more interesting
I've never seen Kroot spelled like that
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just add a whole ass playable imperial titan to darktide
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>just add ass to darktide
ftfy
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You guys are all delusional. Next class will obviously be inquisitorial savant.
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I'm glad we all agree that whatever it is, it's not sob
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daily reminder that our heroes are probably not surviving the inquisitorial audit that'll happen in the wake of all of this bullshit
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>>568742160
>>568742687
homosexuals who also think ordo hereticus should allow FILTHY XENOS into their ranks.
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>>568744329
>admonition are beaten back to negligible levels of strength
>Zealots, Veterans, Ogryns, Arbites all obey and remain on the mourningstar
>get executed
>Hive Scum and Psykers disappear into Tertium
>live out their days in squalor, becomes new gang leaders
what happens to skittles
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Remember when the Rippertard got spanked AGAIN after shilling for PBB? Classic.
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>>568744329
All major players will be long dead by the time the Administorum sends someone out.
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>>568744879
>what happens to skittles
Mind wiped and sent to the next warzone.
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>>568744329
Our heroes being the plucky named characters of the story get rolled into the warband proper by Grendyl and thrown at the next problem. It's the rest of the rejects that get liquidated. Our characters get to live until they die in service or go renegade.
Darktide II Renegades will Rise[/spoiler] Chaos Boogaloo
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>>568747595
this time, it's personal
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>>568746037
Unironically this. This is a super minor conflict that probably won’t even reach the ears of the wider imperium. All that will be known, if anything, is that competent badass inquisitor Grendyl and the forces under his command saved the day and that will be that. The only way I can see anything else happening is if we start making use of Xenos or Chaos or something and a hyper puritan inquisitor somehow manages to catch wind of it and take it upon themselves to do something about it. Otherwise, we’ll be kept around because we’re useful, unless Grendyl is kind enough to let us go is we beg to go back to our old lives.
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>>568748767
we're already doing a tech heresy
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>>568748767
is grendyl even alive or real? i heard a swagger voiceline in expeditions recently that gave me the impression he's either dead or just a made up guy (or i suppose that swagger himself is grendyl)
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>>568749274
What did he say? I never played expeditions so I wouldn't know.
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>>568749474
can't remember what was said, i tried looking it up but couldn't find any transcripts or videos of the part i'm talking about, but essentially swagger was being very sarcastic about grendyl and the phrasing of it stuck out to me.

i found this when i was looking for it, which is somewhat interesting too
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1s2unbo/one_of_the_admonition_cult_leaders_recognizing/
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Deathwatch novels show that inquisitors have no problem sacrificing their underlings and infecting planets with genestealers just to complete a step in their plan. They won't spare our rapidly cooling corpses a second thought.
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did fatshark finally give us amd gpu plebs some love? i just came back to the game recently because of the event/skitarii announcement and it feels smoother to play, the graphical glitches that i kept seeing in the hourglass maps are also gone after i posted about it in their forums 1+ year ago so it feels like they still give a shit about us, it still stutters sometimes and i had to do some ini tweaks as always but it feels way better compared to before
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>>568750106
NTA, his third theory is actually what I think. I'm pretty sure I remember there was an expedition voiceline about an unknown magos biologis being detected out in the wastelands, something like that, and he's pretty much always around mechanicus stuff. Even hangs out near Hadron's shop on the Mourningstar.
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So why did they mention skitarii has its own unique rig like ogryn when it still has regular human proportions?
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>>568751829
because they actually put effort into the customization for this one, unlike all of the other human classes
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>>568751456
Not augmented up enough, even for a Magos Biologis
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>>568735682
>cooler than two pistols you twirl to boost accuracy
Not even close
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>>568752143
Hope that means we’re getting the reverse joined legs and other crazy stuff and not just regular legs but robot
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>>568752298
it just means we're getting leg, forearm, cloth color, and lens color customization
I doubt there will be anything more to it than varying shapes of leg and forearm that can still be animated the same way
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>>568752298
You'll get starfox legs and you'll like it young man
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I just got the game guys whats the tier list for champs?
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>>568753027
>champs
we call them "toons," newfriend
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>>568753027
>S tier
What you find fun
>F tier
Being a retarded metafaggot.
Hope this list helps!
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>>568753027
Don’t ever post this image again if you know what’s good for you
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>>568753027
outside havoc(endgame challenge mode) you can just run anything and win if you're good at melee and quick on the trigger.
in havoc if your class has a option to help the team and you don't take it you're kind of griefing but if you're not going down every minute no one's gonna call you out on it.
the way tide games work simply not going down to melee or anything but specials is already pulling your weight, but darktide makes you have to do a little more since you can't skillcheck your way through ranged combat, 90% of failed runs are because of rooms full of gunners and the person with the active ability to solve it is currently horizontal.
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>>568754601
problem?
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>>568754793
Post the Kevin James edit
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>>568753027
Is this a japanese girl with down syndrome?
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>>568755158
Ohhh husbant. You havea downy syndromu
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all is forgiven if fatshark unveils female quadruple amputee skits
I will wipe the slate clean, they can begin again
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i always see vt2 fans who dislike darktide but anyone else love darktide but not vt2? tried playing it a bunch of times (got it free on steam years ago, couldn't get into it then tried again after buying darktide)
i even bought vt1 because of how much i like darktide and wanted to see what that was like

i just dont get the intense feeling that darktide gives when i play vt2
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Now that I'm getting towards level 30 with hive scum I was hoping I could get some general tips. Rampage and chem dependency with shivs and needle gun, I can manage well most of the time but it feels like shivs push doesn't push as much as the other classes. I'm used to incorporating pushes and push attacks into my combos a lot, but with shivs it feels like I don't clear as much space. Like on other classes like psyker/arbite/vet I can be surrounded and push then dodge in the space I've made even in auric, but with scum and shivs it feels like I push and am still boxed in more often than not. More than once I've tried to push then dodge a mauler overhead attack and just dodge into a poxwalker that didn't move and eat it. End up taking chip damage throughout the level, and not being able to use stimms to regain some health isn't a crutch I can use. Also, why do people not heal me lol. I'll carry a med stimm and top off scum when I'm playing other classes, but can't get the courtesy when I'm scumming.
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>>568710872
Ignore that part
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>>568757273
You're not my real dad you can't tell me what to do
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What does the eviscerator do better than the Relic Blade?
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>>568755738
Hot, who's the artist?
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>>568754793
I'm 41 years old and I have a much better hairline than this 22 years old girl.
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The game runs like shit ever since I updated my drivers.
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>>568758668
Runs like shit one patch, fine the next. Runs fine for a day, runs shit the next. Darktide
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The flamer looks fun, but I bet it sucks.
Does it?
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>>568757963
killing twins, it's basically the fastest twins killer in the game while being good into bosses, unremarkable into captains, and not much worse than the relic blade vs hordes and elite groups. Relic blade's obviously better overall but evisc has its upsides and is worth picking over relic blade depending on what your comp needs
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>>568759129
not sure about havoc but on high auric it's really good, range feels like it's about 2-3x what the inferno staff can do so you can hit from pretty far
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>>568758913
>>568758668
I'm surprised it's not common knowledge at thsi point, but this game has to rebuild shaders after a patch. The first couple games always run like shit because of it
If it's not that, just revert the driver update
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>>568759129
It works best in very high enemy density and in cooperation with someone who does a good job of killing specials. Very popular in havocs
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>>568758668
Your driver update likely changed a bunch of settings. I've been there
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I'm still only playing on Malice but somehow I feel like I'm the only person who knows how to use the Auspex to scan shit.
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>>568757963
power fantasy
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>>568758302
This unc is stylish!
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>>568760050
You might very well be the only one who does know how to use it in many of your matches
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>>568760050
contrary to what one might expect if they knew nothing about coop vidya pubbers, it will only get worse as you climb the difficulties
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>>568752149
Magos Biologis tend to upgrade themselves biologically with gene enhancements and synthetic organs. And forgo the usual mechanical enhancements. Meaning they would look much more outwardly human than most techpriests.
Swagger does look like what you'd expect from a magos biologis.
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>>568760050
>teammates won't scan shit
>teammates also won't watch your back while you scan shit
>teammates won't do minigames
>teammates also won't watch your back while you do minigames
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>>568761907
>Magos Biologis tend to upgrade themselves biologically with gene enhancements and synthetic organs.
Yes.
>And forgo the usual mechanical enhancements.
Not to this degree.
>Meaning they would look much more outwardly human than most techpriests.
Yes.
>Swagger does look like what you'd expect from a magos biologis.
No.
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>>568761113
i have 750 hours in the game and only found out how to do the hab draqo tree unguent minigame last week, i still dont really know if there's a proper way to do it, i just bruteforce the circles until one goes white and then click that again
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Wait i have to play this shit again?
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>>568763212
no you can press the skip button that is in the image you posted
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>>568763212
Yes. The skip button is just a ruse
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>>568762209
>Not to this degree.
Yes to this degree. That's exactly what makes Biologis weird among other techpriests and why they are even untrusted to certain degree by their peers.
Also it makes sense for Swagger too to forgo lot of mechanical enhancements if he is going on intelligence gathering runs and his main point is to blend into the crowds. Having less or even no visible indentifying markers, like cybernetic hands, makes his disguise much more effective and make himself go unnoticed.
Less you stand out amongst a crowd less people will pay attention to you and less they will remember about you as well. And being a magos of somekind, Swagger would be more than smart enough to realize this phenomena.
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>>568762795
I tied it the earlier today and got filtered.
I randomly clicked circles and progressed to the third section, which I could not complete.
I still have no idea what I was supposed to do at all. Does it has something to do with the movements of the eye?
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>>568763871
And to add because I forgot.

Lets not forgot that Swagger also wears a heavy trenchcoat as well that covers lot of his torso.
It's very easy to hide cybernetics under something like that, say if he has cybernetics on his chest to enhance his heart. Like we did see these recent skitarii concept arts, if Swagger has cybernetics like this on his, it'd be incredibly easy to hide under a heavy trench coat.
Minus the nuggetification. Which would make sense since biologis enhance their limbs by giving themselves stronger bones and using dense artificial gene-enhanced muscles.
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>>568764271
>>568762795
>Highlight the circles
>One circle goes white
>Click that one
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I am new and should learn the little puzzles too. Is there a guide online?Or video? The train one was just a white dot moving around, I have no idea what I did to solve it. The one where you catch the matching letter in the paragraph at least makes obvious visual sense at first glance and is intuitive.
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>>568764428
Well now I feel foolish.
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>>568764434
For the train one you move the circle as close to the edge as you can (it turns gold) without letting it hit the edge
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>>568764271
you just click on the different circles until one turns white then click it again to get to the next section, do that 3 times and that's it

as i said i dont know if there's another way to tell which circle will turn white or if you're meant to just bruteforce it.
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>>568763871
>Yes to this degree.
No.
I don't care about the rest of your Swagger argument. You might also even be right since Fatshark butchers the lore regularly, but the turbochad gymbro/sexy anime girl Magos Biologis is 100% a fan interpretation and is not part of the official canon.
Just because a Magos Biologis might have a bunch of crazy organs like a bargain bin Space Marine doesn't mean he's forgoing mechadendrites and the rest of that shit.
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>>568764473
it also took me a long time to figure out

The one I hate is the matching 4 symbols one. I know how to do it I just hate doing it
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Jaq Draco class please fatshark
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Skull event status? Do the sweden servitors have my 50 aquilas already?
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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Name a fun zealot build
or a fun build in general

fun builds I tried so far:
>GFS Meleeker + laspistol
>castrator stance + mk3 shotty
>tac axe blender hive scum
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>>568765104
This guy is such a fucking schizo but so cool
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>>568767408
Executioner Stance + Marksman Focus Vraks Infantry Autogun Veteran.
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why they knees so low?
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>>568767408
Electro spam psyker
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>>568767446
yeah it's a shame the other 2 books ian watson planned weren't written, jaq deserved better
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>>568767531
it's very common for skitarii units to get second hand parts
though these are alpha prime models, they likely use beta, or b's as they're commonly called in the fandom skitarii parts initially
yes, they are the b's knees
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Why are there to Atoma Pattern weapons in Darktide?
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>>568767408
zealot, chainsword, combat shotgun, fotf blazing piety
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>>568764618
>Fatshark butchers the lore regularly
Magos Biologis not using cybernetics is not breaking the lore.
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I like playing Arbites
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>>568768575
Atoma makes tanks and shit
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>>568768192
I've only read one 40k book and it was a one-off about a knight world. How come they don't do more media about the knight worlds? They're a little weird thematically, sure, but I like them
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>>568770443
>>568768192
I have no idea why I replied to you, sorry. Enjoy the (you)
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>>568770565
Why did he get a (you) and not me?
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sorry man I only have like 3 more (you)s to give out before my next (you)cheque
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>>568770443
>How come they don't do more media about the knight worlds?
Because nobody cares about them.
Also most knight worlds are also feudal worlds, meaning those planets basically look like medieval europe. So they are pretty generic.

Basically, if you want a 40k game based on a knight world, just boot up Vermintide. Weirdly enough, that's what it would look like, minus the human sized rats of course.
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>>568771310
Yeah fair enough. I liked the juxtaposition with the feudal stuff and the mechs
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>>568767408
FotF with Catachan sword and Laspistol is extremely fun and possibly the highest skill ceiling build in the game--absolutely the highest among Zealot builds at the very least, I'd say--though its skill floor is similarly high.
Note that it's in a very awkward position for shit like Havocs because it's not really a reliably pre-screenable build. If a player is good with it, then they're GOOD, but if they're bad (the more likely option considering your average pubber) then they'll be dead at the first wave.
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>>568771015
Get a youb
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>>568771516
I'd genuinely take a Fotf zealot. Anything besides stealth ziggers, please.
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>>568700453
Almost a classic post but had to chud it up in the end
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>>568771516
>>568771776
Nah. Foft zealots still have mid damage. Chorus zealots give urinary toughness and can easily ledge bosses
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>>568771905
I know that, but least fotf zealots are not aggro dumping ziggers who can't even do a good job at the single fucking thing they are meant to do, aka kill bosses.
I have only come across a single stealth zealot who was actually good at stealth and could just insta kill every boss as one appeared. Everyone else is a mouth breathing retard that does nothing half the time while they jack off in the backline playing as a discount veteran.
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>>568771310
Man sized rats aren’t out of the question either. They wouldn’t be called rats but who knows what kind of fauna any one planet has. Could be a neat tribute/reference.
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>>568773167
They are out of the question because there are no skaven in 40k. GSC are their equivalent in 40k.
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I don't know what to play to tide (hehe) me over until the next piece of news/talent tree is shown for Skitty, any tips besides burning myself out grinding for extra Melkbucks?
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>>568690976
Chaplain or Librarian
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>>568770443
Knights don't sell enough, but if you want some reading material, get Vengeful Spirit, one of the Knights was so fucking arrogant to he killed an aspect of Slaanesh
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Be a good person.
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>>568773738
You misunderstand. They wouldn’t literally be Skaven in anyway besides appearance. I’m saying you could have giant feral rat people and it would fit because there’s crazy fauna all over the place in 40k and especially now in the setting. It would be a fun nod and that’s it.
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>>568774950
Feral rat people would be exterminated for being xenos/mutants.
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>>568774597
I don't owe you anything
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A had a dream that my city was flooded by a huge wave and an earthquake was cracking the streets open and was rushed into white vans to escape and the people in mine gave me a lobotomy and all I could do is stare at people with my mouth open and everyone I knew felt sorry for me, and then when I got home I tried to do bone saw heavy 1 but the devs had removed that satisfying scraping animation and turned it into a single boring hit and that was unironically the scariest part
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>>568775330
Did I fucking stutter?
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>>568774310
Suspiciously bombshell shaped
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>>568775239
They’d certainly try but if it’s a low tech level world and they actually breed like… rats, it’s probably easier said than done.
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>>568775632
Female marines with K cup tits and wide hips were always canon.
:^)
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>>568778370
>but if it’s a low tech level world and they actually breed like… rats
We have solutions for rats.
Even final solutions.
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I just got done with a level where it let 4 humans in but didn't kick one of the boys so we had 5 players. That was pretty fun
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>>568780505
>Boys
Bots* but whatever same thing
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>>568775632
Watch your mouth buddy. That’s the Emperor’s Finest you’re talking about.
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>darktide
>torrent mission
>that tiny ass pipe corridor section
>two chaos spawns and twins attack at the same time
>horde, hounds and mutants
game really didn't want us to win that one
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>>568781505
The Emperor's finest bombshells?
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>>568779346
shut the fuck up Malcador you woke retard
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Guys... I'm sorry to say this but I'm taking a break from Darktide and these threads until Skitarii comes out...
Au revoir, my bosom companions...
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>>568781964
This is slander against Malcador the Hero. Malcador was based, but both you and the Emperor are too lost to see it.
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>>568783374
Malcador never had sisters and it shows, neither did you COOMPATROL
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>>568783441
Your parents being retards and not controlling your sister/s has no bearing on this.
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>>568781964
Malcador wasn't woke, he just wanted a harem of primarchs, which was exceedingly based. Big E said no because he knew, and he didn't need his OP plz nerf powers to figure that out.
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>>568736434
>mfw every time I want a taunt ogryn its a fucking meme heavy stubber ogryn who's running useless "ranged dps" in the back until he runs out of ammo 1/3rd way through the mission and is now useless because he didn't build for melee
>Every vet/zealot i want for gold piss runs stealth and somehow is still the first to go down and first to die
>Every psyker runs neither bubble nor flame staff, you're either getting a gunpsyker or a smigger who gets backstabbed and dies without even going down
>Hive scum is a 50/50 whether or not they've mastered dodge spamming yet, if they have they'll murderblender as hard as they can. If they haven't they'll be tanking the floor most of the game
>Arby will either be painfully average but better than a shitter of any other class, or will be the absolute clutch lord who never goes down and salvages your cursed run from the brink of oblivion
Welcome to the trenches anon
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>>568785060
It's not even the Trenches, I'm playing 40s.
It's the other type of trench.
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>>568781595
You called?
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>>568786516
>I'm playing 40s.
That's just the frontline trench
It unfortunately doesn't get any better
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>team eats shit
>clutch a massive wave of shit
>nearly done, the hard part is over
>get dogged/netted
Is there a worse feeling?
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>>568785060
hi im one of the stealth zealots
i like contributing via skill and mechanics rather than existing to press a button every 40ish seconds
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based ogryn gunner KINGS
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>>568786861
I know stealth is better but it’s still cringe when you’ve got a huge sword, charge is kino.
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>>568787019
charge is great too, just depends on the mood but i refuse to run piss book ever
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>>568786801
>>Is there a worse feeling?
>be the lynchpin of the entire team
>die due to some stupid mistake you shouldn't have made or die to some stupid serverside bullshit like a mauler nicking your pinkie toe
>your team mates can't get you up be it because you're on fire and surrounded by a fuck ton of enemies or they just panic not knowing what to do
>inevitably respawn at the totem
>watch helplessly for the next 5 minutes as the rest of the team flail around trying to make progress only to inevitably be withered down by attrition
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>>568787089
Charge is okay, it’s the most fun by far but stealth + relic blade is a silly strong combo. It’s just very cringe thematically
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>>568786861
DECLINED
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>>568787236
oh no!
anyway
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>>568787164
That’s not as bad, you know it’s over when you eat shit. The trapper off angle clutch stanch gives you hope, you fight your ass off for 3 minutes only to fumble it because you heard a “dodge to the side” net but it was actually a dodge back because the trapper was caught on something.
I’ll give you that playing with friends that know you’re the only reason mission finish in a win watching you burn in net that was an easy save though.
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>>568786861
>IM BOOOONKING
It presses the button and clears the trash or it gets DECLINED again
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HIV CUM with crowbar and pistols is like another game entirely holy shit it’s heart rate simulator. You solo the map or you die to one hit
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>>568787164
That's very cool anon, but that's nothing
>take class to fill a role in a team
>you do your thing perfectly
>other roles not being filled
>you wipe because of it
>you switch class to fill role everyone ignores
>role you just vacated no longer being filled
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>>568787164
>>568788139
>that awful team that actually throws you off your game because you’re second guessing what the fuck they are up to
On the contrast theres no better feeling when not a single word is exchanged, you all keep a close yet lose coherence and just get shit done knowing you can count on each other for the basics. Dogs/nets, close ranks, massed elites? Tanky classes go to the front and slowly give ground. Massed gunners, spread out and around and pick off what you can and then converge. It’s such a good feeling
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>>568787736
doing me a favor cuz i like playing with people who enjoy the game, not toddlers who demand babysitters
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>>568767408
>fun Zealot build
Perfect Strike eviscerator mk XV + Martyrdom + FoTF
Just aim for torso height and enjoy zoning out until the room is empty and you are covered in blood.
>fun build in general
I'm enjoying "Crackhead with a shredder autopistol" Scum lately and a beefy melee Vet that uses weapon specialist and quickswap to reload the snubnose instead of doing it manually. Note this is all Auric stuff, if you're looking for Havoc gameplay then YMMV
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>>568767408
fatmangus zealot
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i need to be mating pressed
i need to be mating pressed
I NEED TO BE MATING PRESSED
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>>568788694
>i want to be babysat, not do the babysitting!
Bonking the occasional boss is not as useful as you think
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>see lvl 7000 zealot
>his profile says 6800 hours in Darktide
It's always zealots.
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>>568789463
this must be a male inferno staff psyker player
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>>568789463
psyker mains...
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>>568789496
>implying that i use thunderhammer with stealth
no i use charge for that because i dont hate myself, i use relic blade with stealth so i can do it all
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>>568780505
The most I ever had was 4 people and 2 bots. I loaded mid-game and I could even see 6 people on the loading screen with everyone having their own seat and not clipping into each other.
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>>568789792
2 bots is crazy. I have never seen more than 1 in my 3000 hours
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>>568780505
They should straight up add a mode that throws like 8 or 12 players in a field and just let the game go nuts with the spawns.
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>>568790004
the game engine already is breaking with the harder difficulties spawn rates, this would likely result in an unimaginable spike in DCs, crashes, and even more audio cuts and issues
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>>568790059
Could save on compute by giving poxxers and other grouped units swarm logic rather than each one having its own individual AI, but that would assume swedish competence
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>>568790059
not to mention 1 purg or smite psyker/flamer zealot/gunlugger or rumbler ogryn is all it takes to make that mode unfun for everyone else in the lobby
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>>568790004
You would need 1 or 2 smoke vets. Gunners, shooters and snipers are a much bigger problem out in the open.
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>>568790143
wdym swarm logic
the individual ai for each enemy is so they can interact with the slot system, which is literally how enemies are able to hit you in the first place, two or more enemies taking up the same slot would result in merging hitboxes of enemies which is kind of important to not happen in a horde game
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>>568790420
dude he's an anon, he's an expert
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>V2
>let’s add a side mode
>the worst the game has ever been
>let’s try again
>against all odds works and people like it
>darktide
>let’s add a side mode
>trash
>try again
>even worse
How do you get lucky once and let it slip by? Either stop with the side shit or just do the thing that worked
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>>568790596
They hired a different studio to make chaos wastes. That studio closed down
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That's rough buddy
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>>568790830
Just sacrifice a weapon
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sex with sister prine
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>>568782262
We’ll miss you felinid bro
>>568774310
Baby making sex with Siggy
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>>568767531
Wait til you see Stiltarii
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>>568705615
wait so my guy will be castrated?
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>>568774479
>Paperback is 400 burger dollaridoos
Fucking nevermind I guess
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>>568791330
You see that tube that goes up from the crotch? Your penis inside it
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>>568791376
So you're saying there's a chance
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>>568791376
how am I supposed to have sex with Hadron
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>>568791435
A chance that you have a penis? Probably not. It's just a chunk of flesh that's in the way
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>>568791549
Hadron doesn't have a vagina either. Nor a butthole. She doesn't even have a mouth.
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>>568791549
Pick a face that still has a mouth and tongue
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noosphere sex with Hadron!
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>>568790420
Each enemy has its own instanced logic, you can tell because individual poxxers, the one enemy type you would expect to lump together with swarm logic, can peel off from the group and go after other targets. This works fine with low spawn counts, the kind you see on Malice in fact since that's the intended game difficulty, but it's not scalable which is why you see it break down when the spawns hit higher numbers. Fatshark gets around this by balance tweaking so players pass DPS checks before the spawn count gets too high, and by setting spawn limits. The problem is that exceptional players on the upper end of the bell curve will blow past this balancing.

Rather than viewing it as an engineering issue, Fatshark just nerfs players and buffs enemies so the most skilled are still challenged by the upper spawn limit. If you have 20 poxxers spawning for example, they shouldn't be running 20 instances of poxxer logic, they should draw from a single instance and act as a group until more granular behavior is needed.
>the individual ai for each enemy is so they can interact with the slot system
Yes, but it applies all the time instead of only when they need to, such as when they reach a player. A poxxer standing right in front of you is running the same logic as a poxxer several meters away, the one that's several meters away doesn't need an individual instance to mimic intelligent behavior until it has to interact with you. It's hard to explain this without visual aides.
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>>568790971
>Baby making sex with Siggy
Kharn…
>>568791707
Kayex…
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>>568791761
Homo came in my eyes. Gave me visual AIDS
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>>568791625
Where there is a will there is a fleshlight mechadendrite attachment.

Or just do the demolition man brain sex thing, Cunnilingua-Technis if you will.
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Do people even be having sex in 40k? The universe feels uniquely sexless considering how otherwise graphic it is. To be clear I think that's a good thing, having romance options in 40k felt really weird to me in Rogue Trader
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>>568791625
I've seen many pictures that indicate different
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Will we get new music with the skitt?
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>>568792253
A power KNIFE?
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>>568792481
No, when a man and a woman is sanctioned by the administratum, they hold hands and cherubs soon deliver a baby to them as the Emperor's blessing of their union.
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will I get flagged for naming my skitty HadronsToilet?
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>>568792481
brother
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>>568792734
its a dual wield knife and sword combo weapon
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>>568792481
>Do people even be having sex in 40k?
Yes. But GW doesn't want to focus on it because it is a tabletop WARgame first and foremost. It's meant to be an over the top setting where people kill each other for stupid ass reasons with bad ass weapons.
Also one of the bigger customer bases for GW and who they want to sell models to are kids, so they are not gonna add graphic depictions of sex into it.
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>>568792481
>Do people even be having sex in 40k?
Anon do you know how people are (generally) made? There's 40k gorillion people in the setting, and some number approaching 100% are spawned through completely conventional means. They fuck like crazy.
If GW weren't fucking pussies they'd have entire in-setting fertility propaganda and whatnot. Manpower is important after all. Pound a pussy for Big E today, enlist your kid to the Guard!
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>>568792830
My scum is George FIoyd dude you'll be fine
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>>568793539
They don't need to compel people to fuck because the imperium is a feudal shithole and most people live short, miserable lives and fucking is the oldest form of entertainment, so fertility is absurdly high as a result. Hive cities can pretty much pay their whole tithe in fresh bodies alone.
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>>568793730
True, but given the grimdark and also grimderp tendencies, I'd imagine all kinds of dark sex shit to happen in the setting. At the very least silly shit like calling contraceptives heresy.
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>>568793845
Upper spire nobles are 100% having orgies and starting slaaneshi cults.
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>>568793845
look at China and India's state of affair, yet they number in a a billion each.
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>>568793915
I thought China was experiencing demographic collapse. Also India barely contains any humans.
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>>568793907
>he believes the Terra's files
fucking traitor

>>568794024
you know what I meant, and for chinks collapse it's the one child policy blowing on their faces
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>>568792481
GW operates on traditional double standard of rivers of gore are ok for children but God forbid they hear a sex joke or see a titty. Even the nominally hedonistic crazy sex and drugs and tentacle rape Chaos God Slannesh got so neutered with time they even got rid of xher in Age of Sigmar.
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>>568794024
They have a demographic bomb that hasn't gone off yet, the gender ratio in China is off by a huge margin because the one child policy only encouraged parents to have boys for dynastic and academic reasons. By about 2050 there'll be more people retiring than working like in the west, and that precipitates economic collapse if a war doesn't kick off first.
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>>568794152
it's the typical puritain view where righteous violence is downright encouraged
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>>568794152
this is why kids shoot up schools instead of having sex
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How the fuck does loading into Morningstar still take minutes?
Don't tell me it's because it needs me to connect with every HDD slavoid one by one? Swedoids couldn't possibly make the code that bad.
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>>568794362
Kids that shoot up schools wouldn't have sex anyway. Hell, half of the time the reason for the shooting is that they didn't get any.
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>>568793730
>fertility is absurdly high
You meant to say birthrates?
Seeing what microplastic alone does to balls, I dont want to imagine how fucked fertility would be from pesticides or chemicals on any given agrar or industrial world.
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please dont tell me you're gaming on a HDD in 202X
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>>568794426
it's a cointoss, if you connect quickly to the designated server
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>>568794426
>How the fuck does loading into Morningstar still take minutes?
Sw*dejank.
I'm on hardware fast enough that load times should be nigh instantaneous. I imagine it does a lot of unnecessary server validation, and then whatever the fuck "waiting for other players" does.
I also imagine there's server issues. Sometimes logging in is really fast. Other times it takes minutes. This includes the pre-menu login screen btw.
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>>568794426
>Swedoids couldn't possibly make the code that bad.
never think this ever again and you will be correct, always.
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>>568794478
I do, mine's a high RPM one though, my SSD is for storing terabytes of porn, not for gaming.
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>>568793907
>Upper spire nobles are 100% having orgies and starting slaaneshi cults.
That is canon.
It's an ever present issue with the Imperial nobles and the Inquisition is VERY aware of the problem. So they try to keep a close eye on them.
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>>568794024
China is only "collapsing" because of the 2 child policy (they changed it some time ago, still doesn't fix the issue) and due to their culture being centered around wanting to have a male child. Iirc it was something to do with marriages and if you have a son married off to another family's daughter, you're better off financially or something.
It's weird, somebody here can probably explain it better.

But the point stands, if China didn't have these 2 things, their numbers would be exploding even higher.
India is a good case study on seeing how China would be if they didn't have the 2 child policy and culture thing, and the result is that we can is rampant over population.
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Is this accurate, and why is it on some obscure imgr instead of in game right on the weapon screen? How am I supposed to know what stagger/cleave/force/mass/brittle/etc mean? A weapon info box telling me that a weapon has 6000 cleave and inflicts 600 Brittle means absolutely nothing without a definition and frame of reference. Why would a developer obfuscate things like this?

https://imgur.com/a/DqmYpV1//layout/grid
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>>568789643
>do it all
As long as that "all" includes golden piss toughness so the psyker doesn't get one-tapped by some random bullshit
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>>568790596
The only problem mortis trials and expeditions have is that you have to queue up for them at a seperate table
they would get 1000% more play if you just got the option to enable them on your queue from the main mission board
And they're enabled by default
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>>568795980
>Why would a developer obfuscate things like this?
Either because Sw*dejank, or to intentionally hide the game's mechanical depth to avoid scaring away the retards (their actual target audience and the largest portion of the player base). Most players remain clueless forever.
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>>568795605
1) Male children work and can provide for you when you're old.
2) You have to pay dowry for your daughter.
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>>568795980
because youre not the 0.1% of players that needs to know this kind of information, asking that question already means you dont have the requisite autism to be able to utilize this information
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>>568796394
Just sell the daughter? Problem solved.
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>>568796689
>Just sell your daughter
Father of the year award right here.
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>>568794024
>experiencing demographic collapse
That doesn't happen over night
Just look at south Koria which is the most fucked country on the planet when it comes to demographic collapse
It takes a long time
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>>568796919
Nobody wants your ugly ass Chink daughter, you'd have to pay me to take her.
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>>568755738
Here's your nugget after Hadron performed breast reduction surgery to improve her combat efficiency
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>hidden window
>I can see it
??
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>>568728384
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>>568729061
I would. I tire of the relic blade.
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>>568799034
>the swedes have started to include cryptominers into their game to cover some of the developement and server costs
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>>568773738
>there are no skaven in 40k
Yes-yes stupid man-thing no skaven at all!
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>haven't played in a while
>log in
>pic rel
ugh
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>>568799803
That's a ratling, you dumb bitch, they evolved from humans and are a type of beastman abhuman. It's a different thing. Not a disgusting sewer dwelling mammal of the rodentia family.
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>he actually believe skaven propaganda about skaven being "evolved humans"
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>>568800126
ratlings are space halflings, not beastmen. that's some long forgotten beastman variant or something.
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>>568800267
Halflings aren't fucking real, you dipshit. There's only dwarves and shorter gnomes.
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>>568800126
>That's a ratling
U wot m8? U tryin ta start sumthin? Just cuz we're short n' hairy?
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Ratlings don't real.
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nids is bugs
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Remember sideburns are an important part of Ratling culture
So is being able to cook and turn anything into something edible.
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LASSES CANNIT ELP BUT LUV THRN BIG PROPER OGRYN GEEZAS INNIT
GO BIG OR GO HOME YASPFT SOUFERN BASTIDS
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>>568800761
love these little magpies so much, perfect foils for the ogryns
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>>568800795
KEYHBORD TOO FUKEN SMOL FOR OGREN FINGERS
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Give me the space goats already fatshark
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>>568801005
imagine the bants. the entire cast shitting on the goatman for the entire mission.
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>>568801005
uhm no sweetie in the nulore they all turned to chaos because of space racism to maintain the GW status quo
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>>568801054
>the entire cast
Ogryn would never!
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>>568801142
>he doesn't know
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>>568801005
>>568801172
>>568801287
BUILT FOR HUMAN WOMEN
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>going to have to wait three weeks before they show us any info related to the skill tree

I hate Fatshark so much. That said. Mars, Ryza, and Branx Minor are kino picks for cosmetics but I would have probably preferred Metalica if Fatshark hadn't been lazy fucks and given the class Radium weapons.
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how does one stay as an eldar fan if GW almost starves them of any spotlight
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>>568802436
>given the class Radium weapons.
The rest of the part would quite literally turn to goop during the loading screen flight

Also there is likely a fourth color we have't seen yet, considering arby and hive scum got 4 factions

I wonder if the rest of the party will comment about how painful it is to work alongside a Skitty using Transphobic blades
>Eyes feel funny sah! Cannot see proper sah!
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>>568802640
you don't. Fuck eldar (figuratively)
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>>568802640
last time GW's gaze ended on the Eldars their wraithbones got retconned into simple materials, it was a blessing to be ignored
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I was watched older cutscenes and compared it to skittles trailer and that dogfighting 40k show

nigger why GW did tell them to turn lasguns into onions wars blasters
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>>568802640
>spotlight
>Xeno species
lol
lmao even
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>>568802886
orks? space tomb kangz?
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>>568802748
>The rest of the part would quite literally turn to goop during the loading screen flight
Not my problem
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>>568802978
>Getting killed by space marines in the current starter set means you have the spotlight
Funny that you should post the two factions who cannonically never get anything done because they're too busy fighting themselves
Let me add a third
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>Arc Rifle Skitarii + Smigger Psyker
Name a more fucking boring duo.
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>>568802886
this desu
Humanity is the protagonist and the galaxy truly and unironically belongs to humans
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>>568803846
>belongs to humans
Belonged
It belongs to the tyranids now, every major hive city is already filled with genestealer cults including Terra
It's only a matter of time before only genestealer hybrids remain
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>>568803465
Smite psyker + Soulblaze psyker
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>>568804390
>Their hopes and dreams?
>Crushed
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>>568804054
>Gene Stealers
Mechanicus ass pull (probably from Crawl) could probably completely wipe them out by having them make a biophage that specifically targets them. Gene Stealers are no more a threat than the Tau on their own. Their only advantage is the latent Psyker abilities and rape.
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>>568792253
what does "the machine spirit" mean in this context? AI? An algorhithm? Someones brain?
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>>568802436
We were probably meant to get radium weapons years ago. Remember the "Good Ol' Plasma Gun" vox teaser?
And there were hints that the veteran class would've gotten access to it as well, since both characters talking in the snippet complain about headaches and nausea, and are generally perplexed by the weapon. Which would be uncharacteristic for a skitarii since they use those weapons all the time, unlike guard.

There's possibilities that Fatshark just entirely canned Radium weapons themselves, or GW themselves told them "No." for whatever reason after that debacle.
But over all I think there's like 90% chance we are never getting them. Since if we were getting them, it is really weird they didn't add a radium carbine or something into the DLC now.
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>>568804820
>Their only advantage
You should go read about the Twisted Helix
But the short version
>Human nobles who run biomedical companies capture genestealer and experiment on it
>Think they invented perfect-safe immortality serum
>Inject it into themselves like retards
>Become genestealer thralls
>They now mix genestealer DNA into all of the drugs they sell and ship across the imperium
>Everyone who takes their drugs turns into another cultist
>Original captured genestealer test subject becomes their Patriarch
Also historically Mechanicus doesn't have much better luck when they try and capture tyranids to experiment on
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>>568805406
I think the good ol plasma gun incident is explained another way.
I think that the team recording those things had the whole games content plan laid out in front of them, then went down the list and recorded it all ahead of time, then Fatshark started dripfeeding them.
This one was obviously meant to drop after/during an admech class release. They just fucked it up cause they actually thought it was about a plasma gun. Remember they're WHF fans, originally not 40k
This also explains why a lot of those vox transmissions were about some chaos sorcerer bigshot guy. One such guy was doodled on a paper sticking to a monitor in the latest dev interview
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thinking of playing havoc again but all I want to do is play FOTF with Eviscerator
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>>568805168
Probably an automatic computer that is connected to the swords, that are connected to the skitarii, can just tweak the sword sound field on the fly.
As a whole Machine Spirit is a nebulous thing and their existance at best can be classified as "Yes and no."
Lot of the time things that are labeled as "machine spirit" are just forms of AI*, other times it's just the automatic programs/algorhitm of the technology and sometimes it is just a made up belief.
Like think about it logically, does a sword like devilclaw sword or a lasgun have a machine spirit within them? No.
But something like a titan? Yeah it definetly has an AI of sort that is its machine spirit, but it is possible it might also hold a "soul" in a spiritual sense too.

Largely there's no consistency and the fluff flip flops on whichever sounds cooler or more interesting at the time.

*(Yes both the Mechanicus and Imperium do use AI, like what do you think servo skulls are? They don't have brains inside those, it's rotten away. They just call it "machine spirit" to get around the legalities and not to rustle someone's jimmies)
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>>568805168
>what does "the machine spirit" mean in this context?
Anon every door has a machine spirit, even if all it does is open/close
You don't want the Glitchlings to start messing with your tech because it's depressed from a lack of prayer
Don't forget to burn your incense during maintenance rituals
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>>568806415
>two stitched together
They need a Get Along shirt.
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>>568805720
>They just fucked it up
No, it's very clear that GW got involved.
Reason being that imperial guard as a whole don't get access to radium weapons. They are admech only. And yes, GW is this autistic about this stuff.
Also we already have plasmaguns in the game, and none of the characters complain about head aches or nausea. Only thing they complain about is that the gun over heats and burns them.

Also why the fuck would the studio ever make a vox teaser for a weapon that ALREADY EXISTED IN THE FUCKING GAME SINCE LAUNCH.

The whole headache and nausea part was a very deliberate on Fatshark's part because those, are very common signs of ionizing radiation exposure. Which is what the Radium weapons out put practically constantly, it's literally in the name of the weapon. And the plasmagun does not put off ionizing radiation, they are not that stupid.
They literally use codexes as a fucking basis for all these weapons. It would be no different for the Radium weapons' design eithe.
Fatshark just did the "good ol' plasma gun" as an attempt to try and save face, and the reaosn why they were so quick to do this is because they definetly got a strongly worded letter from GW's representatives about giving a Radium guns to regular guard.
Also they can never say that GW told them no and they have to change it, even if it was true.

If Fatshark started to list off all of the things GW has meddled, interfered and changed within both Darktide and Vermintide, even if all of those things were true. Only thing that would result from that is GW quickly and swiftly just closing any and all collaborations with the studio and then blacklisting Fatshark forever.
Which is something the devs obviously know would be financial and PR suicide for them.
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>>568806415
It's clearly an euphenism for something though
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>>568807263
yeah, for my dick.
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>>568801172
Beastmen smell like nosh, they wouldn't mind a nibble right?
Bet they don't have that sweet, but nasty cinnamon burn the chaos troops seem to have.
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>>568807263
Anon part of every Imperial guards maintenance training for their equipment is prayer to the devices machine spirit
Machine spirit is not just the name they give to what limited AI they use, or just computers
It's everything
The humble lasgun has a machine spirit

You have to remember that in the imperium, Ignorance is a virtue
If you think your average person today has no idea how devices like their smartphones work?
Imagine being an illiterate hive ganger who got drafted into the local PDF and you're handed a lasgun
Someone is going to have to teach you how to maintain and take care of this ancient relic, they're not going to tell you how it actually works, or what function your actions serve
Knowledge is power, guard it well
They're going to tell you to do this specific ritual with your hands, while muttering the incantation of "replacing the battery and putting it in the charging station" etc

All because everyone from Mars is exceedingly autistic
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>>568792253
>60
what's the total at? are we even going to make it to 500?
are you telling me they decided to reduce the welfare aquilas? 500 was too much to be handing out for free every YEAR?
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>>568807942
>The humble lasgun has a machine spirit
don't they just tell them shit like this so they don't fuck with their weapons and let professionals fix them?
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>>568804390
>The difficulty is Damnation.
>You are still seeing squadmates walk straight into overhead swings of Crushers and Maulers. Psykers are still popping themselves during calm downtimes.
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>>568807958
>500 was too much to be handing out for free every YEAR?
To be fair, they did give away 1000 total aquilas for all players last year.
The managers saw that and thought it was too much and would bankcrupt the studio.
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>>568802821
What did they justify that change with?
I could see it being revealed the materials are a more mundane type when you look close as it need to exist in reality without warp permeation.

Thats before the warp is introduced, but you would also note the odd way it seems to have been grown like trees or bone. Very unlike rocks that are compacted, but maybe like a fossil embedded. Once you add the warp to it, then it completely changes and comes alive, no longer just some dead extruded alien stuff. The layman person might not even think to get a psyker to just try it and no one should ever trust what a xenos says. So that might just lead to the common idea it's just odd shapped rocks and shit. Ignorance reigns.

Or its just GW letting some warning color hair add female feelings and making ot lame a gay on purpose.
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>>568807942
It's not just that the martians are autistic at this point, they legitimately don't really know how anything works either, they're just doing rituals because that's what they were taught to do. The mechanicum in 30k had a nominal understanding of how most of their technology worked, apart from the almost certainly AI designed stuff from the dark age, but the schism fucked them up about as much as the horus heresy fucked up the imperium and they lost a lot of technical knowledge and never recovered.

Research and innovation is literally heresy to these guys, and Cawl is a heretek for engaging in both.
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>>568808331
dunno, dates from the 10th edition. Maybe they did to wave their dicks
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>>568808204
Anon every weapon needs basic field maintenance
Whether its autogun or a lasgun
A tech priest doesn't do basic field maintenance, they're busy with actual important stuff
If you actually manage to break your lasgun? You're usually in deep shit, considering how sturdy those things are.
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>>568808441
I just think all the old Eldar writes left the company at this point and no one remembered what the fuck wraithbone was supposed to be
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>>568808634
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>>568807263
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>>568808952
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>>568808287
That still happens in Auric too
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>>568807259
They were denying its a rad gun within minutes. There's no way GW told em to shut it down that fast
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>>568808634
>>568808784
the lore might as well be this at this point, nothing fucking makes sense or matters anymore, everything is up for the latest whims of NuWriter cucks
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>>568810526
>might as well be this at this point
>nulore
Anon Xenology is from 2005
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>>568808287
You think that's bad?
I see people in auric who:
>don't use medicae (non-martyr zealots)
>don't know where to go (start running backwards through the map to where we came from)
>place preemptive medkits and crates mid mission when everyone is full hp and full ammo
You'd think being forced to play all those missions to reach auric would teach the most basic of basics. But no. Some players are so bad it looks like it's their first time ever playing the game.
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>>568764403
lol no dick or balls
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>>568799178
Here you go, I slapped this together for you. Keep in mind it's just Auric-tested, I got the impression you weren't talking about Havoc gameplay though.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1e75e8b-78b6-4dfd-9927-7a483d872168/cleave-through-everything-even-my-ex-wife
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>>568810819
It's because it's very easy to get carried by just one good player who knows what he's doing in lower levels
You don't need to learn how to play, if the someone else has already rushed ahead and completed the objective
You don't even need to survive for the mission to succeed
You get paid the same even if you die 8 times during a run
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>>568811003
oh I'm not that guy you replied to, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
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>>568810819
>don't know where to go (start running backwards through the map to where we came from)
This shit happens to me fairly often on lights out missions, I'm sorry.
>>568811101
All good brother I hope you like it.
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>>568810843
castrated cyborg nuggets that get used like disposable pawns, by tech priests who removed the ability to feel empathy from their brain three centuries ago because it was making them inefficient in their duties.
Probably one of the most cursed existences you can have in the imperium while still conscious of yourself

I think every reject besides maybe the ogryns is going to be kinda freaked out by them
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>>568811456
>Probably one of the most cursed existences you can have in the imperium
Don't they sign up for it though?
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>>568811292
what are your thoughts on the other evis type? I forget the name. I like the higher speed but the combos sometimes elude me.
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>>568795980
I've been playing for a couple of days and I'm still not sure of the difference between cleave and rend and stagger and impact and brittle and all that shit. Same for some of the weapons stats. I can inspect them but there's like barely one line of text to describe the mechanic.

I'm only playing on Malice so I don't even need that, but I'll have to learn all this some day I guess.
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>>568811673
I'm not an expert by any means but I found it to be extra complex for no real gain, the XV seems to clear hordes and kill single targets more effectively despite having the incredibly simple moveset, it kinda baffled me honestly. I don't really get the point to the other mark, doesn't seem to do anything better for the cost of it's more complex combos. The attack speed is part of why I take Martyrdom over Blazing Piety though
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>>568811572
>sign up for it
Anon they're mind wiped
Do you think they consensually signed up to become limbless nuggets that get used as mere spare biological parts for the mechanicus warmachine?
They turn people into Servitors without their consent, why do you think they'd be kinder to their Skitarii?
This is the faction that doesn't even bother giving people anesthetics before they get horrifically cut apart and turned into a mindless automaton
Mindless if they're lucky at least....
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>>568796919
god i wish that elephant's trunk were my dick
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>>568811879
>Do you think they consensually signed up to become limbless nuggets that get used as mere spare biological parts for the mechanicus warmachine?
I mean... in this universe I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just a secondary but somehow I got in my head at some point that skits were like, your career path if you flunked out of magos school, basically.
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>>568811572
There's no real standardization for Skitarii. It's up to their Magos. Some are roided out giganiggas with photon thruster cannons and power claws, others are castrated cyborg nuggets with leather bellows for lungs barely above servitors, mind linked to their commanding Magos.
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>>568811993
>but somehow I got in my head at some point that skits were like, your career path if you flunked out of magos school, basically.
No Hadron just found a way to upgrade the existing mind wiped drones they have around, so that they can function in warband missions
Their personalities will be very robot like I imagine.
Possibly one of them will be glitching out because they half remember an old life.
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one of the skitari voices better be lohner
>pi-pi-pieces of my mind are dri-dri-drifting away
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>get thrown over a ledge by an explosion
>spectate players while i respawn
>two of them are obviously using controllers
Lads, give it to me straight for I am rather new, is this game crossplay?
Have I been playing with consoletards this whole time?
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>>568812748
yes, and they can turn crossplay off but you can't
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>>568750254
Fatshark said that the upcoming updates will be all about balancing and fixing/polishing the game performance, last 2 updates also fixed the game vram usage and mentioned that it made it more stable. The next update that will come with the new class will surely come with more improvements as well.
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>>568812748
There's crossplay yes, but you can use gamepads on the pc version
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Fuck the rejects, give me my radium carbine NOW. I dont care if the warband dies of cancer, THE FLESH IS WEAK
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How come they don't turn Ogryn into skitarii? Actually do the Admech make use of abhumans at all?
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24 DAYS UNTIL SKITTY
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Nyeheheheheh.....
NYOHOHOHOHOOO!!!!
...Skibidi......
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>>568813484
>How come they don't turn Ogryn into skitarii?
It's pretty expensive to make a Ogryn cyborg compared to a Skitarii
And a bunch of Skitarii with insanely powerful guns will usually do better

Mechanicus approaches warfare with a scalpel approach, if they need a sledgehammer they'll bring out artillery, tanks or just their actual giant war robots that make ogryns look like toddlers
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>>568811673
It's very easy once it clicks. Combos are maximum 4 steps and most of the time it's an alternating pattern between horizontal and vertical strikes.
For horizontal strikes two options:
>Heavy -> Light -> repeat (infinite loop. H -> L -> H -> L....)
>Heavy -> Light x3.

Add some push attack filler and enjoy total poxwalker death:
>Heavy -> Light x3 -> push attack -> repeat

For vertical strikes there are 2 combos:
>Light -> Heavy -> repeat (infinite loop. L -> H -> L -> H...)
>Light x2. (for small enemies)

Or just stick with the slower mark if that's your cup of tea. I'm a whore to attack speed which is why I prefer the faster one.
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>>568810806
point at the part where their feces are alloys
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>>568814278
Eldar pooping crystals is from that book and it's been a meme in the community ever since
I don't have time to spoonfeed you the exact passage, you have the source and it should be easy enough for you to investigate xenology 2005 for the quote, since it's been talked about to death ages ago.
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>>568814059
based
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>>568814191
Yeah that makes sense, I guess using an Ogryn body doesn't really provide any benefits for them
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>>568814479
>I don't have time to spoonfeed you the exact passage
this is the usual roundabout way of saying "I'm lying"
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>>568814196
yea the faster one is addictive. it's been a while since I played but I remember having some Blazing Piety attack speed build where I didn't even combo and just rushed in and swung lights like crazy and it blended through hordes.
I think it was completely inferior against heavies tho.
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>>568815258
by default the slower one is better vs Crushers and such, true. But since I run martyrdom and fotf, it's not really an issue.
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>>568801785
shut up sanjay
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>>568794458
I’m pretty sure it’s just because they’re antisocial and have psychopathic leanings to begin with
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>>568795245
I wouldn’t say everpresent, but yes, nobles are just as susceptible to corruption as anyone else, any good inquisitor knows to keep an eye on them
>>568794152
She’s still around in Age of Sigmar, just imprisoned, and it’s hinted that she’ll return soon basically
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>>568797043
Korea has a boy girl disparity too? I thought it was just their feminist shit fucking them up
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>>568794458
retarded woman viewpoint
not having sex doesnt you shoot up schools, something like 15% of men are permavirgins

its like in 40k
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>>568817165
HUMAN WOMEN YEARN FOR THE GIGANTIC ANIMAL PENIS TO STRETCH THEIR WOMBS
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>>568794458
Vapid cunts that derive their self worth from fucking are a bigger factor than whatever reasons you manage to come up with.
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>>568802640
Because they have really cool lore and aesthetics and factions.
>>568806150
>>568805168
Machine Spirit could be literal or metaphorical in this context. Machine spirits are not a uniform thing. They CAN be A.I. , but it’s usually it’s just wn umbrella term that’s used to refer to anything perceived to be within machinery and can and has been used to referred to anything from software in the machine that may not be designed for humans to organic processors to actual animist spirits inside a piece of tech. The latter would presumably be created by setting mechanics combined with the human tendency to anthropomorphize, like the one time a Titan's machine spirit was shown to rescue its dead princeps from the Warp.
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>>568805609
>>568804054
Genestealers are a pretty big threat of course but it’s obvious they’re not going to win the setting or anything, I think they’re being set up to clash with Bile’s New Men who have also already ingrained themselves in many imperial planets and sectors of society and also have the ability to reproduce.
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>>568819008
>it’s obvious they’re not going to win the setting
They're just Tyranids, and Tyranids are absolutely the End Times threat that Skaven were for WFB. There's realistically nothing any of the factions can do to stop the nids either in the materium or the hive mind embodiment in the warp.
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>>568819000
>eldar aesthetics
>cool
They look like failed circus clowns (harlequins are cool tho)
Those mono color armors and their canon schemes make me want to puke, most jarring shit ever.
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>>568748872
Mechanicus does Tech Heresy all the fucking time, the current Fabricator General is a big fat tech heretic.
The Admech is unironically a lot more open minded than the wider Imperium, I don't know if they wrote it like that on accident or not.
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>>568811572
Many do. Ignore the other fag, he's carelessly mixing in servitor lore. Skitarii are entirely different, though the mechanicus certainly isn't above using conscripts and cybernetically mindfucking them into compliance. Even still, a great many are indeed volunteers. Forge worlds are full of faithful followers of the machine cult, and for those without the aptitude for joining the priesthood, skitarii is the foremost alternative option to rise above menial labourer.
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>>568814059
Damn it Skrolk, go back to Fantasy!
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>>568819913
I disagree. Banshees and Warp Spiders and Wraith titans and their tanks and Autarchs and their weaponry and the Phoenix Lords like Maugan Ra look very cool and imposing. The blue and white color scheme does a lot for me, but I prefer when their face masks are that cool see through material that obscures their face but you can still their eyes.
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>>568819396
There’s plenty of Deus Ex machinas that could be busted out to stop them from winning. They’re so numerous and deadly though that it’s likely they’ll be sticking around forever at this point. The actual winner of the setting is destined to be Chaos, just like in WHF, but as long as 40k remains profitable it’s unlikely we’ll ever see that come to fruition unless GW feels like starting up Age of Sigmar 2 Electric Boogaloo for whatever reason.
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>>568821519
In fantasy, there was nothing bigger than the chaos gods, the tyranid hive mind is explicitly bigger than them in 40k
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>>568821173
So 1 big guy and 20 little guys that look cool?
Meanwhile 80% of your armylist is those retarded looking basic warriors.
Its mostly fine in the art, but repulsive on the table.
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>>568819396
Wouldn't they be pretty disinterested in necrons and vice versa though? It might be those two factions could coexist peacefully once everything's said and done.
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>>568822350
>coexist
The tyranids won't stay, they'll move on to another galaxy. Necrons don't like the nids anyway because a lot of them want to return to flesh and blood bodies, which they can't do if the nids eat all the biomass. The necrons could be waiting billions of years for life to get started again, and they don't have that kind of time because of the destroyer curse and the flayer virus.
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>>568811770
>cleave
Affects how much enemy mass you can attack through. Basically more cleave = can swing through more units. (But most weapons aren't gonna do much damage after the 3rd or 4th target, so it's largely a stagger tool)
>impact
stagger strength
>rend
Armor penetration applied to you
>brittleness
Armor reduction applied to the enemy
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>>568822350
The tyranids don’t like attacking necrons because they offer no value and necrodermis has actually been recorded to literally eat tyranid bioforms from the inside out once it starts to reform but the necrons actually want to actually retain and rule over something other than barren rocks too even if they don’t care for the sapient life that lives on them so they have to clash even if they prefer not to
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>rampage with shivs running around like a crack head
>either the smoothest mission ever or pulling teeth
>stimm supply with bone saw
>laid back steady progress
>managed to clutch a twins mission on damnation with stimm supply explosion staggering both twins long enough to get someone else up then kited the bosses away
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>mfw I hear one of the iron warriors muttering under their breath "...quadruple amputee castrated fuckmeat..."
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>>568767408
FotF Heavy sword zealot. It'll be fun, trust me. Although it's carried by the heavy attack spam.
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>galvanic rifle
>servitor bullets
Do they use tiny abhumans or what?
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Ratlings (female locked) next
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>>568831431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw
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>>568832036
Psyker (male locked) (hard gay) next
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>>568829038
They wouldn’t do that…
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>>568832278
Weird ass nigga
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>>568767408
Thunder hammer
ranged weapon of choice
martyrdom
bonk anything to death in one hit



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