Visual Novel General #7637This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>568997268
>>569044534He's not going to be happy about this OP.
Lessons in Kino
Sherry won...
Sherryling is unironically really funny. Might read the fanTL just becuase of that.
AGP won
Archer won btw
>>569044534I can't wait to get home and read more Manosaba!
>>569044534>Sherryling
>>569044534Remember to be nice to your fellow prisoners.
>>569044968Meruru titfuck
>>569044773EVERYBODY! GET IN HERE!>>568956774>>568956774>>568956774
>feMCYou've got my attention.
>>569045410Needs peaking pubes
>>569044952This translation does not exist
Jewelry heart kinohttps://youtu.be/IoVk5_pVH5g?si=30dPS1OsW-USYjw3
hide namissy postersapplyno stubs
>>569045460They didn't start growing yet..
Real thread>>569045450
>>569045721>thread war spamKill yourself
Alsirlings..
>>569045721>thread war kinoLive yourself
Kiss your sister
I have it good that this will be our third /acacia/ thread.
>>569045493Enjoy the few months this translation has to live, nobody's gonna care about it when the official one releases.
>>569046248The official translation will steal "Sherryling"
>>569046248What if it's better than the official one?
Poland is on a rampage today.
>>569046306And maybe this, too.
This is why I think you're all retarded. You can read the thing or you can wait for the other thing. This schizo rage bullshit is zoomer behavior.Even umimasa spam is better than this shit
>>569046485Both are forced shitposts that no one actually cares about
>>569046306Deserved, I hope they take everything from him>>569046327Dishonest. They have over a decade of experience, an upstart working solo is never going to do better. Especially if we end his career. I hope you've all sent your complaints to Shiravune. Oh, maybe we should go check the trannysaba discord and see if he said anything personal that could help us track him down.
zoomcord lost, floodcord lost.
>>569046327not a chance.>>569046306as fine as Sherryling is the fairy hidden meaning has to do with her backstory and her register (not captured by translation) so they probably won't
>>569046654this. trooncord won
can't wait for gooncord and coolcord to join the fight
>>569046428And NAM. And Albania. And Tuscalusa, Alabama. KekaroooooooooYou tell 'em, Kageaki
>>569046232And yet you couldn't keep your own acacia general alive. LiL bros were able to make it to their second general and are still going
>>569047214That's because a /vn/ schizo is spamming them to make sure they don't come back here
>>569046997looking at her makes me feel like a flower... anybody else?
>>569046779
>>569047308I actually started reading LiL so I could post in /lil/ and keep it alive. That's how much I hate LiL and never want to see it come back to /vn/.
>>569047315Totally. You're a beautiful flower, trannager
not open your vietnamese image
>>569047214Yeah, sorry about that.
GODnager*
>>569047429>I'm that schizothat's not surprising to me
>>569046040Manosaba if it was LiL
>>569047308That sounds like cope. Just accept more people like LiL to where they can sustain their own general and not have to flood /vn for attention unlike your game
>>569047429Have you considered that killing yourself might be the better option?
>>569047797>LiL vs ManosabaWhy do you make up rivalries in your schizo mind
vietnam not sending their best
>>569048013Cause both manotards and LiLbros flooded vn but the difference is one of them started and failed multiple generals while the other started their first general and are already on their second
>>569048341>he already knows the image from the thumbnailgeg this is not the win you think it is
>>569048382Well it's hard to make a general with a bunch of circlejerking JOPs isn't it?When Manosaba gets translated it will easily make an active general though because dangantards and other normies are highly anticipating it, enjoy your peace while it lasts JOPsissies.
>>569047754share the manosaba koikatu cards please, i wanna FUCK THEM
>>569048382>VN readers flooded /vn/Fuck... this is not good
>>569048853>Acting like both games aren't off topic
I would summon Sakuraba Ema during the Holy Grail War
>>569049063>visual novels are off-topic in the visual novel general
>>569048727>When Manosaba gets translatedCope moar
>>569048727I mean most 4chan fags that truly wanted to read it have already done so with either the MTL released many months ago, used their own MTL or the patch released recently. So there is no excuse. The faggots here aren't even talking about the game, they are just spamming fan art/edits or non vn related news which you don't need a translation for
>>569049119Hiro's ability is kinda similar to Angra Mainyu's
>>569049205>Spamming fan art, talking about merch, collab deals and manga are on topic
>>569049205
>>569049536manosaba is translated
>>569049619Sure, so is Amakano 3. Oh yeah, LLJ too.
>>569049462>mangaDas rite, mane
>>569046040Which patreon scam is this?
Oldfags had Ever17 and Tsukihime. We have Manosaba and LiL.
>>569049786Lessons in Witch Trials
>>569049786Manosaba 2
qruppo... save us...
>all-ages VN>gooners have to resort to making Koikatsu models and generating AI art to fapkek
KINOkatsu
>>569049995Imagine Ema being your daughter and never allowing her to wear panties in your household.
>>569049910Oldfags had X-change too. VNs have always been a tranny hotspot.
>>569050080We're waiting for you with open arms >>568956774
>>569050267Kino, we all want to be cute anime girls after all.
>>569050408
I'd rather be a posh lady doing funni hand signs instead.
>>569050267I will never forget the rape bus...
More importantly, what the FUCK is up with this vndb thread?
Nukitashi was about sex mandated by lawHenpri was sex bannedWhat will the next game be?
>>569050803Degenerates vs Prudes
>>569050803God Hentai Prison was so fucking good...
>>569050803>What will the next game be?All-ages ge where sex became outdated practice
I haven't had sex in 27 years and I am 26.
>>569049119we need more vietnamese servants
>>569050803More seiran island content if they are smart and capitalizing off the momentum of the anime
>>569051057Does the moment of your birth count as sex? I mean, technically your dick was inside a woman's pussy...
>>569050410What would you do if got turned into a cute girl and then boarded a bus on which all women get raped?
>>569050803A new setting to prove they can still make kamige each time.
>>569051187>heroine has a son>dude's dick was inside of her 24/7 for 9 whole monthsLiterally NTR.
Where is Karenschizo?
>>569051153This would make sense if the Hanamaru Little Bro = New MC theory is true.
>>569051223I would start masturbating and raping myself with a vegetable I had in my handbag.
>>569051346Rimming a gorilla
>>569051346She was too heterossexual for the gay state of this general
wasn't there supposed to be a divegeass update
>>569050803Henpri 2
>>569051675Is that a VN? I can't find it on vndb.
When was the first /vn/ general made?
>>569051741Shuichiro gets isekaied into a world wher hes the chief warden?
>divegeass
>>569051821It's a combination of https://vndb.org/v7368 and https://vndb.org/v58138
>>569051821https://vndb.org/v50
Sex with Ema
>>569051741How would that work though with how henpri ended? It wasn't written with a sequel in mind unless you want more content of shuuichiro running his company
>>569051821divegrassit's not a vn but has gameplay with real winnerd though i didn't quite understand the rules
>>569052095I don't want to sound like a jealous incel but keep Saber away from those shotas.
>>569052095>>569052209Shiki and Akiha's son in the back
>>569049462>noooooo you can't talk about fan art, talk about merch, collab deals, manga related to visual novels>you can't blogpost manosaba either, i'll spoil you>the only posts allowed here are random screenshots of sprites and thread personality wars (muramasafag vs uminekofag, jop vs eop, etc.)
Steins;Gate? More like Shit;Gay.
How powerful would a person that wields both the powers of Muramasa and Umineko in his hands be?
>>569052335Here let me make this simple for you:>visual novel i don't likenot allowed, spam, off-topic>visual novel i likeallowed
More like Kino;Gate
>>569052095>>569052209VN starring Saber and those shotas by Koku when?
>>569052541IDBLT
>>569051346Karenschizo is like a cat. He’ll pop up from time to time randomly.
>>569050803Curing racism by having sex with lots of gaijin heroines
>>569052640poop*
No one:Masabro: NTR with Saber when?
What would you do if you were her little brother?
Kami;Gate is visual novels personified. You can track the visual novel industry to its peak in 2009 when the vn released and the industry's gradual downfall parallel with the gradual downfall of Sci;Adv and Mages.
>>569052629This looks like the girl from happymaher, honestly moe artists making NTR is so dangerous... imagine if Muririn started drawing NTR? Even if the characters aren't actually them they resemble them, it's heartbreaking...
>>569052335You can just ignore him. His rage is impotent. He can't do anything to you if you post a VN you like.
>>569052629Why didn't she just say "no"? She is the adult in this situation.
>>569050803about teaching sex to prude hags
>>569052335>>569052541>>569052886Yet you fags screech about lessons in love HMMMMMM
>>569052862>You can track the visual novel industry to its peak in 2009 when the vn releasedThis except the vn is Muramasa instead of Steins;Lame.
>>569052835Nguyen-dono...
>>569052154At this point I don't think it's Henpri 2, it's been way too long (almost 5 years) for that. And I'd be pissed if all that time was spent for an asset flip game. As much as I like Henpri.
>>569052948Rape doesn't require consent.
>>569052886Please direct people to the better translation if you can, the Lunatranslation is the only way to truly enjoy Manosaba.
>>569052841Have you read Sharin no Kuni?
>>569053065no i dont
>>569053148No.
AIsirGODS*
>>569053065I've never said a word about LiL. They can post here as much as they want, what do I care? Learn to ignore posts you don't care about.>>569053128What the heck is the Lunatranslation
>>569053098Very few people think it's gonna henpri. With how much focus qruppo has been putting on nukitashi anime I'm fairly certain their next game(if there ever is one) is gonna be something related to seiran island
>>569052640So Karenschizo is Tom and Manager is Jerry?
>>569052862>the industry's gradual downfall parallel with the gradual downfall of Sci;AdvThere is no downfall because Sceince Adventure was never good.
>>569053279There are three translations of Manosaba (or there will be, soon)ShiravuneLunaOfficial
I don't like the way you're behaving. Try to be better or I'll leave.
>>569053128I don't think anyone should read the MTL patch at this point.
>>569047429your sacrifice will be appreciated
>>569053426I still don't know which one the Luna translation is.
>>569052948The gakis are too strong.
>>569047429You're like the girl in an NTR ge who's having sex with the fat old men in exchange for them not raping another girl she's trying to protect.
>>569053501AIsir just know that I was there on /bant/ watching your progress and even if this general doesn't appreciate your work I do.
>>569053279Kinda hard to ignore posts that use randomizers and flood the board with art(manosaba). Makes filtering much more difficult. Wouldn't care as much if the few schizos spamming weren't so obnoxious about it and just fucked off to their own general(oh wait they tried and it died cause they only care about being attention whores and not actually reading)
>>569053501Alsir worked very hard to make it and even paid money to make it, it would be horrible not to give it a try. Especially when the fan-patch is an absolutely horrible rewrite that rapes the script so hard, it should be featured as a bonus episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
how do we fix /vn/?
>flooding the imageboard with art
>>569053707>Kind of hard to ignore posts I don't likezoomer mental illness
>>569053794ban all IP's from vietnam to take care of the manoshitba spam for starters so they are forced to relocate to their own containment general
>>569053794ids would fix EVERYTHING
>>569053794if everyone read LiL /vn/ would enter a new golden age
>>569053754Your patch sucks. You don't even know Japanese.
MUMBAImasa
Lowercasesissies melty
>>569053804>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>discussionTiL discussion means spamming fan art to be a disruptive attention whore
Why doesn't AIsir learn Japanese?
>>569053794ban uppercasers
>>569053669STOP SPAMMING FANART REEEEEEEEEEEEEDISCUSSION ONLY
>>569053562https://rentry.org/ManosabaMTLHow long have you been here? A person from /vn/ made it.
>>569054050Lick my sherryling balls
>aisir>personkek
Post your vinny girlfriend
>>569054176why not call it "the MTL" like everyone elsewho calls it the "Luna TL"
>>569053562https://vndb.org/r142616.2
>>569054010IDBLT>>569054102Bad post
>>569054217Seethe over the fanfic translation sabotage and future spoilers of the upcoming games rice farmer. Hope you can read fast in japanese(you can't)
>aisir talking in 3rd person againi miss the totsuraba blogpostation already
>ban all IP's from vietnam >everything stays the same cause no one here is from vietnam
He can't keep getting away with it... Help me take him down guys, together we can cancel the fuck out of him forever
>>569053990>you don't even know ching chong nip nongGood.
>>569054306Because a second MTL came out a week ago.
>>569054302You posted her.
>>569054390nice try ho chi mihn
>>569054372>uppercasers>has agpmany such cases
>>569054306...because it uses Luna, retard>>569054451based
>>569054414>saw logsah yesvery apropos zoomer slangthey all say "saw logs"
>>569054390Meanwhile if India was banned we'd 100% of our mumbaimasa posters GEG
Logs kek
>>569054306>who calls it the "Luna TL"The person who instructed the machine to translate the text would rather not call it a machine translation.
>>569054581your mom saw my logs slide into her mouth
>>569054608...
>>569054519Why does another man have photos of your wife, you fucking cuck?
>>569054608GEEEEEEEEG idblt don't it
>>569054306There is another MTL on steam, so we call this one the Luna TL to differentiate them. The fan translation is human, but the human behind it is, uh... very creative? It reads well if you just forget about the Japanese, and I'd say it's a good experience overall if you can get past Coco's lines. Otherwise, I can guarantee not everyone can read it. (At least the guy who did it didn't beg for money so that's that)
Which is better in practice; fantasy setting or highschool setting?
>>569054678Umumbai when they shit
>>569054752>dogshit or horseshit
>>569054757>>569054678KEKOLAA
>>569054414>was about to saw logsHOW do you make this kind of mistake? what
Do you ever fantasize about being the girl that's getting mindbroken?
>>569054302We're on a date right now.
>>569054926yes
>>569054926Yes and nothing wrong with that.
>>569054302
>>569053237
>>569054608KEK
>>569054926No, not really.
>>569055085Hiro (Male)
I fantasize about being a man.
>>569054859There was a theory one or two threads ago about how she might have picked up outdated slang and stuff from her grandpa, so maybe there's a deeper lore here... or maybe the translator was on crack, I don't know.
>>569054678saarneko
>>569054989STOP POSTING FANARTORELSE
Jops be like:>after 10 years of learning I can finally understand what "tasukete, onii-chan" means. it was truly worth it!
Has anyone noooticed we never see how witchification looks like in other outfits besides the prison ones?
>>569054414That must be the funniest way to describe taking a shit.
>>569055680I want to see it naked
What if instead of witchification it was called bitchification and they started stripping and having sex with all the other witches?
>>569055330He's on crack since she only speaks something resembling zoomoid with eye dialect. It's not even heavy zoomoid to begin with
>>569055680are we to somehow believe that the government screening process is so comprehensive and thorough that literally no one ever witchifies outside the prison, in regular society?what if coco was just forced to play hide and seek at school, wouldn't there be some massacre that made the news and would be hard to cover up? how does that not happen multiple times a year?
>>569055857Hire this guy
At least we can make memes out of the translation (lol)
>>569055787keep dreaming all age fag
What are some vinnies that doesn't deserve its vndb score?Overrated or underrated doesn't matter which
>>569055653Feels good being a jep
>>569055787>Witch Margot's blackened titsHFK
mou iku xD
>>569056035Steins;Gate is underrated.
>>569056035Never7 is heavily underrated
The jop thing is actually tragic. I do feel like they're massively having a breakdown about AI translating everything mostly correct. It's making them feel worthless
>>569056221More like never reading it lol
>>569056035anything with episodic releases (every EVN getting rated in an unfinished state, overrated r07slop)
>>569055934It's not just that it would be hard to cover up. It's that if it happened, even once, you'd have a homicidal and IMMORTAL monster rampaging around. So asking us to believe it never happens and that the government imprisons all the girls just weeks before they have the capacity to witchify is crazy.I did just come up with a handwave explanation/excuse though, the magic resonance on the island makes girls way more likely to witchify while they're there, while in normal life they don't witchify until they reach age 18 or so. So girls are captured at 15 and sent to "the island that makes you witchify more easily"
>>569056035little busters is 80% fillerevery part written by maeda is the main game and everything else is padding that isnt remotely as good
>>569056035Umineko is overrated, Hanachirasu is underrated
>>569056035Muramasa (way too high)
>>569056035Muramasa is overrated, RGD is underrated.Also Subahibi and F/SN should be in the top 5.
>>569056603Detroon sponsored post
>>569056035Muramasa is underrated. Subahibi and F/SN are extremely overrated.
manosabatrannies sure are eager to start "discussing" their agp VN right after being called out on spamming fanart
>>569056035>35
>>5690564109nine episode 4 aka VNOTY 2021 deserved it tho.
>>569056449And why 15 specifically? Sherry had her witch powers manifest when she was a kid and already had multiple incidents. The setting is full of plot holes as an excuse to make a death game with young girls cause of the authors fetish. He'll prob go younger and edgier if he thinks the market will not react negatively
>>569056035S;G is overrated.
>>569056509>way too highI get that you were high writing this but I do agree Muramasa is underrated, it should be number 1 or 2.
>>569056710It was a 7/10.
>>569053065>65Even in /acacia/...
>>569056505>5I understand the desire to be a contrarian, but Umineko not being in the #3 anymore is already too low.
>>569056035I WANNA HAVE SEX WITH KUON!!!!!!!!
>>569056706I am a teen and imo Manosaba is fantastic. Stop seething and learn to ignore it if it's not your thing.
>>569056035Umineko and Steins Gate are way too high
>>569056913Umineko is top 600 on EGS.
>>569056035We need to talk about Muramasa and moogy's influence. He used to hold considerable sway over his cord buddies back in the day, so it was rated fairly high at release, but now that he's fallen from grace, Muramasa shouldn't be up there with Muvluv, WA2, Umineko and Rance X anymore.
Spaghettibros...
No VN will ever be as good as UminekoAnd that's a fact
>>569056913Nah, meh ending and after a certain person died the vn was on life support. It deserves to be among the goods but not among the greats.
>>569056762Eh, there's "having a magic power", which happens from childhood and is fine, it's mostly harmless stuff, nothing that could destroy an entire city. There's "turning into a witch", which would be incredibly destructive if it happened in public, but I guess we have to believe never happens. In any country, not just Japan. Every country on the planet has an advanced (and top secret) program for detaining girls before they can become witches.
>>569056035>>569056505>>569057105
>>569057127so all vns are higher than good
>>569057127What if I don't care about mysteryge? What if I want something life changing, like Subahibi, instead?
>>569056035Muramasa and Ooe are way too high.
>>569057113
>>569056035S;G being rated higher than 9.0 never made any sense to me.
>>569057142>>569057010>>569056964Faggots, you need a notepad to write down the clues and some cold water with estrogen in it to help you calm down or else Umineko won't be an enjoyable experience. You didn't play it correctly.
>>569056814Actually it was a 9/10.
>>569057113Spaghetti bolognese is like the best food ever. I wish I knew how to make it perfectly
>>569057847Babby's first visual novel for a lot of people, and it represents the medium.
>>569057893>Steins;Gate out of nowhere
Turns out Steins;Gate and Umineko are better than Muramasa. I don't make the rules, yorhel does
>>569056509>>569056603>>569057105>>569057329Chuds, you're supposed to jerk off to the NTR h-scenes and skip the rest to properly enjoy Muramasa.
>>569057878I see.No one told me that.
>>569057847What's hard to understand? Do you know how hard it is to write a good time travel plot? Have you ever tried to write anything before?
>>569058059I still think about Yorhel sometimes.
>>569057952>and it represents the medium.Except for the fact that it's rare to find another vn with such a well written plot. It ruins the medium.
>>569057113Not even trying to oppositefag but spaghetti with tomato sauce is total shit and I don't understand its popularity.
>>569058116Naruhodo, that makes a lot of sense if I view it from that angle.
>>569058059https://vndb.org/u2/ulist?f=&l=1&l=2&l=3&l=4&l=6&l=7&mul&s=3q2w>Muramasa 10/10>Steins;Gate 7/10>Umineko 4/10 droppedI fucking kneel to Yorhel
>>569058116>>569058286THIS
>>569058304>droppedOk, I might kill myself now.
>>569058286Kageaki sure does a lot of viewing
>>569058481Now you can join your favorite t-witch
Uminekobros post more we have to hide that L regarding Yorhel's list.
>>569058304chudb should be removed from the OP!
>>569058304>>Umineko 4/10 droppedYorhel was a hero
>>569059005>005Having such a get on a post like this must be the cruel whims of fate at work.
>>569059005>>569059089
>someone rates Umineko low>check the lest of his list>he gives high ratings to moeslop and edgy chuunishitThis shit gets me so fucking angry. You should never make your score visible if you have such garbage taste.
4/10 kek
>>569049308Those faggots waiting for translation are infinitely more respectable than MTL slaves dude, they aren't wrong
>>569059207>he gives high ratings to moeslop and edgy chuunishitBased.
>>569059207Post this chad account for me to send a friend request
>>569059207>he gives high ratings to things that either are or aren't edgyway to say nothing
>>569059292The official translation is prob gonna be as memeworthy and fanfic
>>569059207And r07 slop isn't edgy?
who are the most prolific vndb users
Why are there fags that edit their character traits on their own vndb profiles just to include edgy shit like "Engages in Genocide" or "Subject of Bloody Sex"? YOU ARE NOT FUNNY.
Look, I don't want a fucking boring visual novel where I have to read 20 hours of absolute nothingburger drama just to have 2 vanilla h-scenes.Either give me a plotkamikinoge, or literally the best nukige ever made with some depraved scenes.
>>569059845you can add traits to your profile? adding those two now
>>569059785https://vndb.org/u35602https://vndb.org/u303559https://vndb.org/u151392
>>569059987>you can add traits to your profile?You didn't know? Look at shit like https://vndb.org/u273754
>/vn/
>>569060114Did bro have his full legal name? Zoomers, man.
>>569060238Geg
>>569060114>https://vndb.org/u151392Finally someone with taste that doesn't overrate everything.
>>569060114these faggots are from here rightI want the cartel members to build a cartel llm
>this changed moogy's life
>https://vndb.org/u65Uminekobros, what are your thoughts on his taste?
lmaoEma is adorable.
>>569060114>https://vndb.org/u151392This is schizophrenia
>>569060681Meruru is precious
>>569060582>65>650>6500>are all empty accountsCursed
>https://vndb.org/u5Masasisters, what's going on?
>>569052948Because she secretly wanted it to happen
>>569060863>steins;gate 10HOLY FUCKING BASED
EL PSY KEKAROOOO
>>569060767>having taste is schizophreniaMy average score is 4.8 btw.
>>569061079you are too based for this place
>>569061079I don't mean the scores... look at his notes.
>>569060782too bad she's dead
>>569060942El Psy Kamige.
Who the fuck is congro and why is he psying?
>>569061256read the best vn ever written and you'll understandel psy kekarooo
>>569061336I already read umineko
Test
>>569061380kek
>>569061336But I hate science. We were all created by Prometheus and Athena not this stupid science slop.
>>569060681>Object goes out of the window>random upper case letters? It looks like shit, why did he do that
>>569061181Kinda weird to involve her in future content when canonically she's dead. If they gonna do that, why not involve Yuki?
Wow I'm surprised its still up
>>569061664Are all moeshitters like this irl? Calm down, it's just a fucking drawing, son.
>>569061380>uminekoNot a real kamige, try again
>go onto vndb>find a vn i might be interested in>go to reviews>sandwiched between the "this is the best thing ever" reviews is a critical one that points out that the vn is infact bad and a massive waste of time>saves me countless hours
https://x.com/qruppo/status/2061392222361391593>New qruppo post >Just more manga/anime shit
>>569061380TRVKE
>>569058304floody, what do you think about this?
>>569062076What do you want? A new fucking vn? We are in the dark ages of the medium and you will only get a good one maybe once per year. Let them cook.
>>569060681>It's weird that I wasn't invited!One of the funniest and most memorable lines in the game (although it's optional/non-canon)
>>569062275He dropped both r11 and umineko so he can't be trusted. I doubt he saw the true end considering that you need to play the game twice
>>568989353>>568991919Now I made it work. It's updated with all recent threads.Thanks for the anon who gave me tips.also if any one is curious about the dead anon https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/post/507296235/
>>569062734>I doubt he saw the true end considering that you need to play the game twiceTalking about his s;g score obviously
>>569062530She is talking about my cock?
>>569062943ask for the top 10 posters
What if the Manosaba girls put chastity cages on your cocks?
>>569062709It was really funny.>>569063105Why would that be a problem?
I FUCKING HATE MANOSABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO RAPE EMA NOT JUST LOOK AT HER FUCK HERE FUCK HER FUCK HER!
>>569063215>>569062943You have no idea how rag works and why it won't be able to reply properly, but I can't be bothered spoonfeeding you on how to fix it, sorry
How come Manosaba is so popular now when almost no one was talking about it 15 years ago?
>>569062454>New fucking vnConsidering it's been almost 6 years since their last vn, yes. >dark ages of the mediumUmm actually vn's are getting more popular>Let them cookSeems to me they are only cooking manga and anime content of nukitashi and it's the sfw kind
>vndb hackedGEGI hope you haven't used your real email chuddies
>>569063834Proof?
>>569063834I used you mom's email
>>569063574It’s a local prototype. Obviously, hybrid search and reranking come next if I need accuracy, but it handles my files fine for now.
>>569063834What if I did? Can they access user data?
>>569063834GEEGAROOOOOOOOOO
>>569063813>Umm actually vn's are getting more popularyes but we won't get something as good as Subahibi again.
>>569063490someone here has an ema koikatsu card and isn't sharing it>>569063807it's weird huh, all this manosaba discourse popping up just in the last twelve months, strangely inorganic
>>569064415>someone here has an ema koikatsu card and isn't sharing itYou don't want other people to fuck your character card?
>>569063807>>569064415Chotto matte!Manosaba came out in 2025.https://vndb.org/r141099
>>569063834@grok is this real?
>>569063834el psy kekaroo is this real
>>569064073Point is, it can't answer questions like "list all x" because it only gets a limited number of chunks in context. You need to specifically create metadata if you want it to answer those kind of questions
>>569056035manosaba is a solid 7, yet it's sitting at around 8.5
>>569065024But you haven't even read it?
>>569064890Super Hacker Daru is infiltrating vndb yo uncover Yorhel's HRT prescriptionThis was the choice of Steins Gate
>>569065024will the score go down after EN gets their hands on it
Kamisaba
i read troonsaba1/10it's no kinomasa
>>569065084its score will surpass R07 works and even the things it's cloning once more westoids start jacking off to its fanfics and oji-san headcanons
>>569065076He will change the scores and make SG number 1 again, back in its rightful place.
>>569065226Not enough black people in it for you, masaar?
>>569065226Not enough NTR?
>>569065675>>569065697totally organic posts, namsissy.
TUTTURU~~~
>>569065084Let me just say Rance X's days are limited
>>569065778Mind your own business
Namcord is raiding us again...
MUMBAImasa melty
Why are Vietnamese schizos like that?
Utawarerumono is officially over and we never got to see Nekone naked.
>>569064917Yep, but for that specifically metadata you don't even need AI for that, you might as well ask b4k itself for schizo name+schizo/troon/sissy suffix or use a script to run through your files>>569063215It would just repeat the above, so use this
>>569063569Good taste, she was my favorite shuffle as well.
>>569066096Nekone with a big ol baby bump would have changed the world
>>569066258If you ever actually need to "list all X," you don't even need the database. You can just drop the raw text files directly into the Google AI Studio web interface and ask your question. It will read everything simultaneously and give you an exact global list.
>>569061458now post the fart version
>>569066096We live in a world of lost opportunity.
>>569066096Ending spoilers doko?
>>569065384funny you think westoids are gonna be jacking it to shitnosaba rather than calling it problematic 'diddy blud' media just like that one roastie who said she felt like a pedophile after looking at clannads art
>>569066552I've never encountered such a thing. Maybe you just dreamt of it
>>569066096That's what you get for supporting all age garbage. You can see most relevant characters naked in Rance
>>569066096Don't remind me
>>569067059it's fag friendly so it evens out on the problematic scale
>>569067170it's even worse than anybody could have thought. they got rid of all upskirts and even the cgs are mostly devoid of any kind of fanservice now. shunya doesn't even have exposed shoulders anymore. japan is so absurdly cucked.
>>569066096Aren't all the girls in that ge kemonomimi? Nothing of value was lost.
>>569066276I miss her
>>569067080No, I made it.
>>569067476
>>569044534
>>569067476there's some that aren't.
Balkan Qveen
>>569067712Is it wrong to be into boys? Why is /vn/ so judgmental?
>>569067831The only thing I know about Underwater Ray Romano is the sperm song.
Alsir don't open
>>569068104it's a nice series. i feel that the overall setting and world building carries it more than the characters although the characters themselves are really good. I would say the original vn trilogy is worth giving a try if you like war fantasy vns. The jrpgs and spinoffs are a mixed bag but if you are a fan of the series you will probably like them anyway despite all the jank.
>>569052876>honestly moe artists making NTR is so dangerous/ourgirl/ https://vndb.org/s1453 did it better
*inhales air*This is not a story of heroes. Since time immemorial, warriors called musha have ruled the battlefield, granted supernatural power by their enchanted suits of armor - tsurugi. Minato Kageaki is one such musha, driven by duty to don his crimson armor and challenge the greatest evils of an age. But though madmen and tyrants fall to his blade, never will he claim that his battle is right. For the tsurugi he wields is cursed Muramasa, which five centuries ago brought ruin to the land, and innocent blood is the price it demands in exchange for its terrible might. "Where there are demons, I slay them. Where there are saints, I slay them." These words are an oath, the unbreakable Law binding him to his armor. But they also tell the story of his past, and of the future to come.
>>569068745Forgot to add but:This software contains mature themes and graphic images that are not suitable for minors. You must be 18 years of age or older to purchase. Characters, places and events are fictional – resemblance of real-world people, places or events is purely coincidental.All characters, models, actors, actresses and other persons that appear in any visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are at least eighteen years of age or older. Read the full 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Compliance Notice.この作品は日本国外専用となっており、日本国内への使用は法律により固く禁じられております。Not for use inside of Japan.
god i wish that was me
Never change, Ema.
>>569068913>Not for use inside of Japan.What happens if you use the english translated Muramasa in japan?
>>569067426VISA strikes again!
>>569068745More like inhales farts.
lol, troonslator skipped this
Time for a light snack
>>569068981HFK
>>569069139this but without the gay happy pride month
What went wrong?
>>569069336I could co-write a better finale with floodbro, that's how bad it was.
>>569069262Vietgods eat 10x better than Kageakijeet. Holy kino
>>569069402IDBLT
>>569069262Looks delicious if I'm being totally honest.
>made AI vietnamese food to own the imaginary vietnamese /vn/ users>just made vietnamese people look coolgegaroooo retard masabro be like that he do be
>>569069262Is that Bern in the background?
>>569069262I want to eat that too
I could go for a roasted bottle right about now...
kek
If I wasn't a nukige gooner, I'd be reading Manosaba and I'm sure I'd be having the time of my life. Alas
Coco-chan... calm down...
Anyone gonna post a good vn?
>>569070498UmiFuckingNeko
>>569068183qt>>569068981kinoest theory
>>569070498
>>569069981>>569070114>>569070274I don't get it. Setting the Alsir rants aside, is the translation good or bad? How would you rate it out of 10, 0 being find the guy and kick him in the balls so his offspring never sees the day to perpetuate his mediocrity?
>>569070235What are some 10/10 nukiges, nukigeGOD?I want to learn your ways.
>>569070647between 5 and 6 out of 10
>>569070274She makes that face when I stick it into her
>>569070559Kamige
>>569070647Didn't you see all the script comparisons posted over the last few days? Do you feel like the ojou character should use 'bitch' for kuso onna?It's readable.
>>569070647>How would you rate it out of 10An 8? I don't think that it's bad so far.
>>569070847Given her character and backstory it'd make sense though? She was a massive poorfag, and she often slips up with her ojou speech because she isn't used to it
>>569067426That's not really unique to japan, just more of a corporate thing
Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
>ywn read Totsuraba for the first time ever againNot bussin
>>569070689Studio Pork for NetoriHeiantei for even better NetoriCattleya for momcestOppai Maid for maidOppai Bunny for bunny
>>569071150Maybe on planet retard.
>>569071204Just wait for the new event
>>569070235You're not really missing out on much on basically a walmart danganronpa. Just read Danganronpa if you are getting the itch
>>569071150Maybe on planet genius!
>>569071359No thanks, I only read nukige.
>>569070906But you don't know japanese so how would you compare?
>>569071505You don't need to know japanese to know if a translation is good
>>569071505What makes you think that?
>>569071587lol
>>569071424Not technically a nukige but has a lot of sex, you can give Sickly days and summer traces a try
left or right /vn/?
>>569071667Tits too small.
>>569071359>just read teenshit
>>569071716Left!
>>569071716This ge triggers my AGP...
>>569071716holy mogging
>>569071716Flood queen...
>>569071762We love Dang It Ron Paul here
>>569071013Not in this context. Even if she broke ojou, bitch is too far.>he mangled the next line too by putting graciously too earlyuwa.
What would you do if your brocon imouto went and got gang-raped in order to make you pay attention to her?
Was Makinasis an actual woman or just a man pretending to be a woman? Visual Novels.
>>569072189I would kino my pants.
>>569072197If she was a woman, would you cream your pants if she asked you out?
>>569072189I would curse my life and cry that I am the mc of a plotge
>>569072164I think it made sense because she got accused of murder and was really nervous there, it was really hard for her to keep her composure
>>569072320No shit, it’s very unlikely that I will meet another woman that is into vns and has a femdom/foot worship fetish again.
>>569072197She was the realest woman we ever had
>>569072416You think you are safe in moege?
>>569071601You don't have the japanese text pulled up to compare in any of your screenshots
>>569072438y'all love making excuses for this shitty TL instead of just admitting it's shit
>>569072742
>>569072589What parts of her made you sure that she is a woman?
>>569072913>He missed the meetup
>>569072835No, just calling out a faker when I see it. You're no different from Aisir claiming to know japanese. If you actually knew japanese you would be reading this in japanese and not the fantl. And if you were actually trying to verify the quality of the TL you would have the japanese text pulled up to show as comparison to see if it is accurate and good
>>569072438She would have to be absolutely livid screaming at someone in full anger to push it as far as bitch, it's a pretty comedic scene and she's talking to Sherry whom she's friends with.Dunno why try to defend every line like this when even the author admits it's full of errors.
>>569071601The fact you're rating it that high is a dead giveaway broski
>>569073028>If you actually knew japanese you would be reading this in japanese and not the fantl.Only if you're a sissy jop. I'm a JEPGOD. I don't hate english.
>>569073028> If you actually knew japanese you would be reading this thread in japanese and not the fantl. this is how you sound like. my dad was a samurai you fucking faggot, i know more japanese than you.
>no you see actually coco despite being a stereotypical streamer really likes making old-timey boomer references because she spends a lot of time with her grandpa! that's definitely what the translator intended to convey! doesn't matter that that's not in the original work at all!
>>569073268don't forget the translator already fixing that as errors
jop melty
>>569073242Nice apples and oranges comparison. You will forever be a dekinai larper
>>569073268That was just a speculation though, no one said it's a fact
I love Ema's juvenile, cracking voice.
>>569073536Stick an apple in your ass faggot. I am japanese master, above even the jops.
probably the most blatant unironic shilling in this general ever
>>569073542Speculating about it every thread just to cope is annoying
>>569073716It was only said once
>>569073542we sure are willing to give that guy a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of leeway aren't we for what could just be a shitty TLyou're literally still defending him right now
>>569073714it's confirmed the translator and his clique post here at least so you know who's doing it
>>569073669Post vocaroo oh great one
>>569073714shilling of what? a fan translation?
>>569073225my fellow JEPbrother...
>>569073596her VA was amateurish as fuck to the point it pulled me out of the game at times, not a fan
>>569073225>I don't hate english.This. We love English visual novels like Lessons in Love here.
>>569071716Left was probably raped less.
You can't shill something that's not commercial, dumbass
Would your favorite heroine be able to defeat them?
>>569074043i mean, the game is actually interested but mc getting raped every 30 minutes is very offputting
>>569072779>>569073114It's not that deep>>569073842You are obsessing every day over it just because you're mad people don't read your MTL crap
>No one:>Masabro: Let's talk about the Koku NTR again
Why didn't anyone tell me that manosaba was finally translated a few days ago?
>>569073714It's called anti-shilling, and ye, fan tls usually don't receive this much headwind. Isn't the official paid one underway?
JEP is not a real term you morons
>>569074245it is
>>569074245>t. seething JOP/EOPyou are obsolete now
ex-JOP > JEP
>>569074195...Wrong guy. I also don't want people to read the MTL, since it's subpar, so dunno why do you keep deflecting with that and pushing the cope further with the retarded>hurrdurr need to get paid to shill hurr
>Alsir melty
>>569074237fan tls usually ain't this crap and in the cases they are, no one reads them. Yet here we are with you tourists
>no one>namsissy seething about muramasa againI feel pity.
KINOmasa.
>>5690744121. You're still a subhuman2. Learn Japanese
NAMsaba
JOPBOT is here to replace JOP
MTLchad won
>>5690748161. cope2. seethe
>another day of kageakijeet seething over manosabakageaki are you okay
>>569075050Does JOPBOT do it for free?
It's Muramasa Monday!
>>569075620No one says this
Does it bother anyone else that he ditches the daibensha at the end to go back to personalizing truth, after already going out of his way to give it someone else as a mouthpiece? or am I just autistic
>>569075620All of Mumbai will be celebrating today
>>569075789GEEEGAROOO
>>569075764>or am I just autisticAlsirbro...
nice bday date.>shigatsuYouka has done irrepairable damage to my brain
>four untranslated screenshots in quick successionwho could be behind this....?
((Manosaba))Holy shit... <(ToT)>
>>569075620Best ritual post
>>569074229We all told you, bro.
>>569075620Maybe on planet retard.
>>569075620And it's also Monday in Mumbai.Coincidence?
>bandwidth actually valid in this context (paperwork)Huh. Don't think I've seen it used besides the net bandwidth. Or just forgot.
>>569076254HFK
>>569076606saar, you are drunklook at your calendar
>>569076068You never read it though
>>569076752geg you owned him with that in-depth local knowlegde on India, kageakijeet
Powerful autism. Her hobby is showers.
>>569076752based aryangeaki helping the next one
>>569076972Same.
(Manosaba)Damn...
>>569076972Most unrelatable hobby ever
>>569077036HFK
Why isn't Dull reading Manosaba?
>>569077180because Detroon is
>>569077180Cause even dull has standards
>>569077180Dul is fetching water for his village. It's a 10KM walk
>>569069336It was good, not sure what the problem people have with this game is
>>569076972There's a Holocaust joke to be made here, but I'm tired
>>569077405It was dogshit.
>>569077180
Immensely kino autism.Can't complain about Ayana va for these sections at least, even if she feels off in combat >>569077067could be worse>>569077428Heroine for this feel besides schwarzesmarken?
>>569077512>Heroine for this feel besides schwarzesmarkenRewrite
>>569077450Care to tell why?
>tfw no Shrine Maiden gf (male)
>>569077428Doesn't have enough people in it to make a joke
>>569077580Fuck, forgot. Yeah no.
Name that heroine.
If we wont get a cuddling with cat CG im going to get real mad
we buying right?
>>569077428cool it with the antisemitism
Yeah this might match Katan route
>>569077991Who is this "we" exactly?
>>569077872
>>569078045I look like that
Kneel before your queen, /vn/!
>>569078082The entire population of Vietnam
Rare autism duo.
>>569078110Why does it look she's in an escape game?
>>569078228There's only one queen of /vn/
>zako>disasterAny and all localization greatly unsettles me. Even though it's tadashii...
oyasumi, /vn/...
>>569078110Tsubame is a good girl and you should buy her products.
>>569078426No, I'm not buying any more natto.
Similar to the BG I complained about but this one's fine. Very neato lighting
The actual Rokuhara descendant...
>>569078420good night
>>569078579looks like arcade's hotel room
>LiLOh, the pink thread is not gonna like this
>>569078045GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>569078661Why doesn't she have a Mohawk and sunglasses?
>>569077991tacky junk
>>569078045EL PSY GOOOOOOOOOOG
>>569078734>arcade'sI was so confused if you meant the hotel name or something for a while and then I pronounced it in my brainSame general idea I guess, but Arc's room is so much more detailed with far better buildings it feels unfair to compare
lil nigga mass replying to his low effort sloppa will never not be funny
>>569078854She takes more after her mom Karen by being homeless.
so wait a minute? that manosaba collab is for some karaoke thing in Japan? who tf cares?
so qt
>>569079145We /vn/cuties are going to sing there together
>>569079145did you not get the invite to the /vn/ karaoke meetup in japan?
>>569079145They will sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIr9IDXFfA along with uminekofags cosplaying as Beato
>>569078661She looks like a whore. Does she know that her daughter is a carpet muncher?
>>569079468>Does she know that her daughter is a carpet muncher?Yeah, she is too.
>>569079368silence of the goats
>>569079145theoretically someone could dropship some merch for usi would kill for an alisa... whatever they're selling, acrylic stand or card or whatever
>>569079145We will all be there and watch muramasafags sing Alabama Nigger cosplaying as Chacha.
>no one:>Masabro: Goat NTR! Hfk....
>>569079670Can you faggots make your own general and piss off there? You're just talking about off topic shit now
>>569079814it's a translated visual novel = on topic
>>569079670We will be buying.
>>569079368GOOOOOOOOOG
>>569079713GEEEG
>>569079713geg
>>569079713gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
>>569079814>please stop talking about english translated japanese visual novels here :(>koikatsu EVN spam? that's fine :)KYS shitposter.
>>569079368jej
>>569079992Both are fine here actually
>>569079713gog
>>569080047This.
>>569079670https://collabo.karaokemanekineko.jp/list/manosaba
>>569079670>acrylic stand or cardThe worst of the worst when it comes to merch.At least let us order some wall scrolls or figs, Acacia!I want a Guitar Hiro fig...
Witchification Yuri
>>569079368GOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEGOOOOOOAAAATSSSSS
>>569080047
Still wondering why Ichijo was gangraped by Rokuhara soldiers.
>>569079992Nobody is spamming lil here. It's just one fag blogposting while everyone else is at the lil general. You dipshits aren't even talking about the vn but just spamming irrelevant tangents
>>569080689we call it NTRmasa for a reason geg
>>569080689>canon art of Ichijou getting raped>canon art of Kanae rimming old men>canon art of Muramasa farting massive cloudsMumbaimasa...
>>569080312I love acrylic stands. Wish there was an easy way to make them at home
Why is the Manosaba translation getting so much hate? VNDB, twitter, Steam... They're all hating on that new MTL patch like it's absolute garbage. But it's not that bad, is it?
>>569080975I like how long she is.
>>569081147>unironically using social media shit outside of 4chankys
>>569044534love my cute rokuhara onahole wife.https://litter.catbox.moe/d8y918.jpg
>>>569081147They're all trying to make you seethe less
>>569081147cause the official EN translation has already been announced and will be coming out, so this will fracture the fanbase
I can't believe aisir is still trying to boycott it... I haven't laughed this hard since swan song broke him
ultimate 4chan lolcow
>>569081054Sex with white women!
>>569081283Why is Ichijo cosplaying as Sherry?
>>569081283sherry and the sherryharalings
>Sherry Lingwhy is she chinese american now?
>>569080302>coasters and keyholders shaped like cassette tapeswell that is kinda cool>>569080486SHARE THE CAAAAARD
>>569081283Ichijo and the Banditlings
>>569081565>>569081765uminegrofags are just cursed
>>569080486>LiLsabaToo.... powerful.....
>>569081865>65 againoi yamete!
>>569081865oh no friendly fire friendly fire!!
Where do i go if i want to talk about vns?
>>569081865>65I kneel kek
>>569081865>>569081565>>569081765JFCThis is fucking legendary What are the odds?
>>569081147Dunno, might be better than anon's? Check it? The issue is with releasing them when an official one is coming.
>>569082170heretalk about any vn you like and ignore the people telling you you can't talk about it
I finished manosaba, but I'm still missing this one image in the gallery. I'm assuming it's from a bad ending, but I'm not sure exactly where to get itAlso, what's this "Sherryling" joke everyone keeps posting?
>>569082170>xhe wants to talk about shitual novels hereGEEEEEEEG
>>569082260>The Cat
>>569081565>>569081765>>569081865
>>569082260>Also, what's this "Sherryling" joke everyone keeps posting?Did you even read the vn?
it's looking bad for umixisters
>>569082260im not launching my game now but probably electric chair bad ending for Arisa triggered only by letting time run out during a specific part of a specific trial. There's a guide somewhere
Reading Manosaba with The Cat right now
>>569081865>>569081565>>569081765Umineko has nine lives and you just killed three!
>>569082260>Bee!! (maybe dark)>Evil Jabez>The_Cat_(?)Way to dox your friends
>>569082260of course shitnosaba rejects are cord users
>>569082907you are too kekhowd you know thats cord UI and not anything else
>>569082260>Also, what's this "Sherryling" joke everyone keeps posting?ling = famous vietnamese honorific
>>569083052newfag...
>>569082170The FotM club is playing an EVN this month, so discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels is on hold.
>>569082470Okay, I'll get back to looking for it. It's annoying to wait for the timer to run out, only for it to be a completely different bad end than the one I still need
>>569083719there are steam guides for finding the missing CGs, just follow one of themthey're not really worth it imo, hell they're kinda mean spirited and cruel
>>569083719The guide should specifically mention it's only during X portion so that should be easy to find
>>569083901>girls suffering game>pretending people don't play it for the mean and cruel specificallywhat kinda pussy shit is this
>>569083719Send my regards to The Cat
>>569083901>edgy game with edgy premise is mean spirited anc cruelno way, you don't say!
>>569083901It's erotic though
>>569078734God I wish I had a white woman gf...
>>569083901>>569083927Thanks anons. I found the last ending I needed. I was worried I would have to replay a large portion of the trial again, but it actually didn't take that long
>>569085538White enough?
>>569086049Someone feed her. Her ribs are poking through her skin.
That's a pretty cute outfit.
Hot sister
>>569086209.. for you.
Sex with Ema. Nonstop sex. Impregnating Ema.
>>569086137No she's perfect as she is, my beautiful emaciated white bunny with pissing problems
Yeah this is very clearly the last route ur meant to read kek
>>569086597ogho voice ema after she tries to escape but you drag her back in
sugoi
gowasu
hmhm...
>>569087263gowasu
>>569086621Don't forget digestive problems. She's perfect.
>>569087403Why are you reading when the poor localizers need you on the front lines? Defend you superior MTL patch over the fanfic fanTL
I like how MC's attitude towards Udatsu gets worse and worse until he starts telling him to kill himself
>>569087638man whats even the point of this post. im not seeing the end goal
>>569087786>>569087843So what actually happened in her route? Can someone explain that shit?
The funny face brigade are here.
Are we even sure the fanfic fantranslator is lurking around? Or was it Alsir having an extra hot melty?
>>569088108Yes. They posted this for example >>569047357
>>569087915The end goal is you prove to the world you are right and that your patch is the correct TL. Are you simply going to roll over and let thousands of souls unwittingly read fan fiction and think it's the correct experience? What of the others who stood with you and had your back when you spoke the truth? Where is your polish spirit?
I'm humbly requesting a plain moege OP that doesn't ruffle any feathers. I'm tired of thread wars.
>>569088389LiL op please
>>569088389Albatross...
>>569045450>>569045450>>569045450
nah, I will wait for the 7638 bread
Kek those butt cheeks
>>569088423>>568956774>>568956774>>568956774
>>569088203Hasn't this gif been around for a while already?
>>569088484We will be moving.
>>569088906>>569088906>>569088906It's up!
MOVE>>569088942>>569088942>>569088942
>>569088971GEG
>>569088972>thread wars
>>569088971>>569088972aiyee what shit timing
>>569089050Blame Alsir for having a melty
>>569089050blind nigga
>>569088971>>569088484Is one thread without umineko flag colors too much too ask?>>569088972Thanks
steins shit lost
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
uminegro lostnamsaba lost
Somebody left this at page 10... I should pick it up just in case.
MUMBAImasa lost
https://youtu.be/IY9mF06ZVFI?si=9il3hqvgux-mxgoV
