Previous: >>568735232>Chaldea Broadcasting Station Vol. 24, Nostalgic Eternal Journey:●Wednesday June 3rd, 18:45 JST.▶MC: Mafia Kajita.▶Cast: Kenji Akabane (Kadoc), Ayako Kawasumi (Artoria Pendragon), Karin Takahashi (Van Gogh).▶RT campaign: 14 SQ.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoX0JFtWbRA>One Second After Time: Nostalgic Eternal Journey - Past Chaldea:●Release Date: Wednesday June 3rd.▶Requirements: Clear "The Beginning of Aftertime" chapter and clear the Recognition Battles for 2 classes.https://www.fate-go.jp/special/2026-new_chapter/>New Chapter pre-campaign (part 3):●May 27 ~ June 3 JST.▶NEW Login Bonus: 3 SQ, 2 Golden Apples, 10 Hellfire of Wisdom and 1 Summon Ticket.▶NEW Limited Master missions: missions: 10 SQ.▶AP consumption for all Pseudo-Singularities, Chapter 5.5 and Chapter 6.5 will be reduced to 1/4.▶AP consumption for Ember Gathering quests and Training Ground quests will be halved.▶Chances of getting a great/super success when strengthening a servant will be double.▶Strengthening Quests for Sigurd (skill) and Valkyrie (skill).▶Limited Master missions: 11 SQ, 2 Crystallized Lores and 30 Hellfire of Wisdom.▶AP consumption for Grand Unlock Battles and Grand Certification battles will be halved.https://news.fate-go.jp/2026/05/2026_new_chapter_cp3/>New Chapter pre-campaign (part 3) PU summon:●May 27 ~ June 3 JST.▶Servants of the 4 Ordeal Call will have their own PU.▶See the link below for each PU.https://news.fate-go.jp/2026/05/2026_new_chapter_cp3_pu/>New Limited Craft Essence added to Mana Prism Shop:●Available till August 31."Sword Saint of Wandering"▶Increases the Bond Points gained of Saber allies by 20%. >Future Schedule:▶Rerun of past Grand Duels (Stormpod consumption will be excluded):-May 29 ~ June 5: EXTRA I & II. -Login Bonus: 7 Golden Apples.>/fgog/ Friendlist form (2026):https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8>Utility links:https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
>>569050002OUR HERO APEX ARTHUR PENDRAGON...and musashi
Matthew sexalso>image bump limitthe absolute state
>last thread hit image limitstop spamming retards
>>569050237We were only 35 posts away, it's not a big deal
Hey! It's Sion's birthday and this thread looks very un-siony to me...
birbs
>>569050685for melty collab
>>569050685The dead don't have birthdays
yep she's coming back
>>569050138>I only play glorious and superior japanese joseimuke Both are trash sis. LADS men look too "plastic" while JP joseimuke (in general, not just otoge) are rather antiquated
>>569052009What will life be like for these guys?What will their social standing be like? Will they have lucrative jobs? What will their families think?
>Manaka destroyed Musashi's timelineWho can stop the evil smelly loli?
>>569052167They are happy, which is the only thing that matters
>>569052183arthur in the upcoming proto collab
>>569050002What is the reason for requesting only two Grand Servants?
>>569052183>Who can stop the evil smelly loli?meI could destroy her pussy
>>569051725I would let her molest me
>>569054180When I grow up I will marry aunt Musashi
>>569052183>smelly?she's a zombie?
thirty motherfucking nine hours away
>>569052976>last volume released: 9 years ago
>>569055082Using Febreeze as her perfume of choice should have give it away.
>>569055323The first thread after the launch of OC IV lasted less than two hours
>>569050237based
>>569057762>no bushhow sad
>>569057762TAMAMON
>>569058015monster enema?
>>569055564Rude he has an ongoing mango
>>569058137for clean anal
>>569058015I miss classic Tamamo
>one of the chapters will be a Proto chapter (Arthurwank)>another chapter will be the Lord Logres chapter (more Artoriawank)
>>569058241Why is kamana so perfect?
>>569058791it's overkoyanskaya is here to stay
>>569050002I don't know shit about fate nippon power levels is Sword saint that big of a deal?
>>569063001Depends.It boils down to>They can do this ONE THING really REALLY goodAnd then they put them in situations where the one thing is important.
>>569059524Arthur hasn't been relevant in +10 years it's the least they could do.
>>569051740I don't care I'm still not playing the most jewish and predatory kusoge out there
>>569063001what is a saint?
Mordred/Florence VA birthday
>>569066162Rama and Artemis too
Why the fuck is Arthur in the newest shop CE? Musashi I can accept, but Arthur only appears in random events and doesn't really do anything.
It's hilarious how Arthur is such an abandonware character that everyone forgot he also was supposedly wandering dimensions like Musashi.
>>569067014ProtoKINO incoming.You? crying and shaking
>>569050237TAKEUCHI! Put Mashu is a slutty bikini with none of that frilly covering horseshit this summer! Call it character development or whatever! Do it, faggot!
>>569067014clearly less relevant
>>569067215bro ? >>569055564
>>569067838How many skins does Mashu have?
>>569043858What I would genuinely love to know for sure are operating costs for all these games, because I have a strong suspicion that, to use a car metaphor, some of these are Premium Gas-guzzling deluxe Ferraris and some of these are the kind of shitboxes that run a thousand miles on a bottle of cooking oil.
Question about Singularities? When they appear, is the location completely cut off even if it's not in same time it appeared?
>>569058241Is Manaka the strongest MC?
>>569067014Because he's (finally?) going to battle Manaka. There's going to be a TWIST because Draco's line to him has her sure of "you're hunting G...No What?? APOCALYPSE?" Maybe Manaka is Apocalypse itself. That's why she's Beast Princess.
>>569071310No, that's Mountain man.
>36 hours until the start of the new story arc
>>569052183A heroic wielder of the promised febreeze spray bottle of victory
How do nips feel about Arthur?
>>569071132Singularities, much like "what the hell is Guda actually doing in combat" have always been rather loosely explained so they could at any point pull whatever writing bullshit they want, but broadly speaking they're characterized as bubbles of limited space.
>"Merlin... That's not the problem here! You've been playing up the recluse angle, Merin! But if you can come out just like that, then there's no reason for me to continue wandering the worlds alone-!">"Because it seemed fun!? Ok... listen up, Merlin. You know, I've been travelling the worlds in accordance to your prophecy, searching for L and R at that Chaldea from far away- There I kept waiting for the continuation of the prophecy, for portents of S and G. And yet... You intervened, an intervention unprophecised and unplanned. Just because it seemed fun!?"Purin is hot but damn, why is she such a bitch. You can only feel kinda bad for that poor lad being forced to travel alone while some troll gives wrong directions for shits and giggles
Good morning /altera/
>>569075119I'm starting to feel nervous...
>>569078153I wish she would leglock me and whisper in my ear "ufufufufu no pulling out"
>>569080608that's a dude bro
I miss my canon girlfriend and boyfriend so much
>>569078153It'd be even funnier if she was the Beast
>>569082078>that foreshadowing from the 8th anniversary PV>mysteriously absent from the finale>actually plot relevantIt's Merlin (male)
>>569059389lust for PVC sluts
>>569050002Almost had 0-quads
>>569070510Beyond the usual 3 ascensions, she's got 2 versions of Ortenaus, 1 Paladin, 2 swimsuits and 1 idol costume.
>>569091246does she really need another bikini? even if it's sluttier?
Mash needs a third swimsuit to compete with Lilith and Gensai for my dick
We need a tier list of female servants on rank of ball caressing vs ball crushing.
Da Vinci's on the Caster CE. Nemo's on the Rider CE. Musashi and Arthur are on the Saber CE.Who should rep their respective class for the Archer, Lancer, Assassin, Berserker and Extra Class CE's?
>>569096516emiyascatsome hassankintokihopeman/abby/jannu/bb
>>569096516>>569097514It'll be Arjuna for Archer so they can also slap Karna on Lancer.
Enkidu? For me of course
>>569097608>two pajeets in a rownah
>>569092153Gameplay wise, it'd actually be nice to have a swimsuit with the Paladin kit now. Both of the available ones are Galahad.Also, yes, you eunuch.
>>569097608>It'll be Arjuna for Archerlmao, an Archer who uses a bow, what a fag
>>569097608you mean Indra____
I legit would love to know what execs feel pouring money into name licenses, expensive 3d assets, voice acting and choreography, and then get passed by a 10-year-old 2D sprite card game doing absolutely nothing but reruns.
>>569104307And this is the reason why there will never be a FGO 2. There's no need.
>>569104307>Beaten by chink-only nardo
>>569104307Well, we didn't do nothing except reruns. We released John Fate Grand Order.
>it finally happened. gil made me gay
It probably took half way through the FSF banners for all the whales to finally realise that FGO was getting more content and then to wake up and roll on the prelati and john banners.
>>569105383Whatever else can be said about Takeuchi, he has something in the way he draws Gil that conveys a degree of "colossal douchebag" energy that's missing in most other depictions except for Wada's.
>>569105806I think Mori conveys it well. Gil is kind feral and not just a twink
>>569105976The word twink has lost its meaningIf you're not a big muscular man then you're a twink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gyxzFPzcO0
The One True Sword Saint.
>>569110764Hair down Gil is superior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmcruAFhmCkFGObros... it's over... the real FGO killer has finally arrive.... it's been nice knowing you...
>>569113926I have questions
>>569105806He def looks like a douchebag here lmao >>569113176
>>569110764o god we're going back to the gay erai knew those fashion disasters weren't an accident
>adult rin can use isthar powerspowerscalers bros
>>569078153They should start playing Arthur up as this poor bastard, that ends up in horrific shenanigans, because his court mage is a fucking sadist and sends him anywhere she wants instead of letting him rest in his afterlife
>>569115903She can't in my fanfic
Last day of waiting.Hope the stream isn't 90% FES shilling
>>569117559
Look at this shitty carnival-tier game but with FGO branding... SUGOILook at this expensive carnival-tier but with FGO branding... SUGOILook at this cheap acrylic stand merch... SUGOI
>>569117813I don't mind it when they reveal the CEs and ASMR characters but the whole planimetry shit I don't care
>>569117559There's a stream?
>>569118478The new main story starts tomorrow, what do you think?
https://x.com/i/status/2061467936607318261
>>569118531I thought it'd be a week or two after something tomorrow.
The STRONGEST
>>569116157Arthur's always been characterized as a poor bastard, that aspect of him just hasn't been present in FGO due to his lack of screentime. Meanwhile in Prototype and Fragments, Lucius, Proto Mordred, Bryn Alter, and Manaka all want to rape him, Misaya wants to torture him to death, he's forced into being the licky priest's servant at one point, etc.
>>569119153Philia... Forgotten...
The girl who'll be leading the first PU of this new arc has to be someone big
>>569119423Manakabros it's our time
>>569118727
>>569119423Galahad is a girl?
>title is Past Chaldea>Galahad was the second Servant summoned by ChaldeaIt's his turn.
Mama content Mama lb5 costume Aphrodite playable Tomorrow I'll be big hell yeah babyy
>>569120412Literal cardboard
>>569119423With EoR, Musashi was released at NY as the first Servant of the new arc, and Moriarty was the star of the actual first chapter's PU. Now we have Logres as the NY Servant who seems like she'll be a main helper later on, so the new chapter's lead SSR could very well be a guy again.
Ehhhhh we don't need logres we have the strongest and cutest with usOlga Marie Earthmirate Animusphere
>>569121138Is magus power directly tied to how ridiculous your name is?
>>569082078She and Fou are being used to hide Merlin (true) Beast. She could get a second redherring Beast moment.Proto Beast is already claimed by Manaka and pet.
Never change, Gil.
>>569114534That's just him in heat and trying to get yorokobe priest's attention.
>>569122416Soul...
>>569122416What the hell are those proportions?Why does Artoria have Bayonetta-tier leg length? Is this a common problem in HSR?
>>569120994>so the new chapter's lead SSR could very well be a guy again.I mean, if it's Gigantomachia it has to be Herc. Ever since they pivoted from the Twelve Labours to hyping up his feats in the Machia, + shit like Shinpachi randomly saying ''wow this guy must be a master swordsman'' in dialogue lines.
>>569122804>I mean, if it's Gigantomachia It's most likely a prologue chapter like Fuyuki you'll return in the finale.
>>569122763Couldn't tell you, I was just checking out the animations. I'll credit them for one thing. They are the first to actually get Enuma Elish right in over a decade.
>>569123004>They're giving this away for freeCrazy
>>569123096Exposure to new players in this day and age is literally golden
>>569119153Lol those fucks really wanted a Fate franchise collab, not UBW specifically. Nasu even said that Saber was written in her post-FGO form.>>569122416We still don't have proper joint attacks in FGO
Wow we are so dead...
>>569125010We're all having a sleepover at /hsrg/'s house
>>569122763thats just classic takeuchi not knowing how to draw legs. Look at her right leg here and it seems like she has an extra joint somewhere.
>>569123096>>569123219You should look at the Rebecca WuWa is giving away, she looks absolutely insane.
>>569104307These games are too demanding for the little entertainment they provide. FGO's card game is barebones but low-maintenance. It's easy to slip in and out of playing FGO without missing a beat while the 3D games are like picking up and putting down a rock.
>Rin in HSR is getting Ishtar shit
>Gilgamesh treasury isn't limit to just earth stuff since he have castorice and sparxie stuff too.Oh right he did have alien ship in extra ending didn't he ?
>>569122804But my Archercles....
>>569126962It's not an alien ship, it's what humans owned.He doesn't get Karna shit or Excalibur because Karna and Artoria are only borrowing their shit for example.
>>569127769considering the whole Vajra and Vimana shit Gil has it's veeeeeeeeeeeeeery arbitrary.Gil will steal shit from 50 Pantheons then claim that he couldn't get away with that shit back in his day.
>>569127885It's whatever Nasu decides. Clearly nothing from fairies make it there because it never belonged to humans, just the planet doing loans.You also don't see shit like Galahad's shield.
>>569123004Christ worst Enuma Elish by far CCC, Unlimited Code and FGO's are way superior
>>569128619he could have Fae shit he personally stole/collected
>>569126962It's an space ship from the future, he has all the treasures of mankind's history, why are you shilling Shaoji's fanfic?
I still think Grand Gil's arrow is the CCC spaceshiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4eTtwvLylk
>>569113176He looks so damn generic, Takeuchi is the only one who can make lewd Gils that actually feel like him.
>>569113176There's something about this picture that feels like GenAislop but I can't pinpoint what exactly
>>569110764Jfc instead of a 5head we have a 2head. The Hoyoslop artists just fucking disintegrate when they have to model a non-moe artstyle
>>569110764Did they make his model look like something straight out from launch to make sure his discount version looks better than him or what?
>>569128738Considering Excalibur is STILL not in his vault despite the endings he beat Artoria, Fae would just reject him. Probably is the planet having the final say.
>Event Name Unlimited Blade Works>Looke Inside>Fgo EventWow........
>>569123004>didn't even reference any of the EE CGis from SN or HA which are basically obligatory at this point>Ea is basically weightlessSouless
>>569122416Pls post the ArcheRin one>>569122763All hoyoslops have those proportions. They have a handful of body models
>>569125729Lol are you sane?
>>569123004Can you imagine being a multibillion dollar company backed by government and still being outdone by a PSP game from 15 years ago with a budged of a cup noddle and a hellish development cyclehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYOoA7pZxU
ded..
>>569122416SEAbrowns... don't look
>>569129604Can't put any effort on an a male character the incels would kill them
>>569129685Tomorrow we'll have big news and live, today however we make fun of hoyotards and their pathetic attempt of shilling their life support game
>>569129604Unironically the HSR version is what it does lorewise.
>Half assed Ea animation >Rin with a half assed Ishtar NP I thought the 3D chink slop was suppose to have better animations than old ass FGO?
>>569129272How do you know it's not?
>>569130345And? Is a literal half-assed depiction better than the more impressive symbolic ones?
>>569129559
>>569130626Its pretty much the same attack he did in Zero, which is how Ea is supposed to work at full power.
>>569130345I don't care there's 0 build up and you can't actually feel the scale of how OP Ea is
>>569130743>le zerowankEven worse
IMAGINE raping Arthur.....
You're bitter, nigga
>>569130345>>569130743"n-no it's it looks low effort on purpose"Archer's UBW also looked very meh and Artoria's excaliblast was also somehow lukewarm when it's nearly impossible to fuck up.
>>569131016>all the resources have to go to the main push, not even collabs are safe from this policy. smoll indie company pls understand
>>569131016>"n-no it's it looks low effort on purpose"Don't have a melty over it lmao
>>569123004Where is the build up? Shit is so fast.
>>569131139A melty over what?
>>569131213Good boy
>>569131094the main push thingy being someone who has only played FGO, GBF and R1999 gives me pic related vibes
>>569131139ok SEA/pajeet
>>569131638meant for>>569131213
fgo is now used for collabslop
>>569131791fgo was always collab cumsock
>>569131791I guess Rin here is a demi-servant instead of a pseudo?
>>569129802Cope this collab always half assed and you're just slurper.
>>569131791I thought it was suppose to be a UBW collab?
>>569132128it looks like it's just used as a front because it's the most popular fate anime
>Isthar in hsr>sakura semi confirmed to come next year in hsr>
>>569132357>He thinks Nasu wouldn’t just shove BB in HSR to shill Extra even more
>>569132357Make dick worms canon in HSR Nasu I beg you
>>569131791Reminder that this Rin is supposed to be Clock Tower Rin and the collab is supervised by Nasu so canonically she can do this.
News Doko? (tomorrow for sure)
>HSR got servant joint attacks before FGO
>>569132357They already ruined Rin's design with that signature shitty overlong skirt at the back to not show any of the female's behind, you think they are ever going to put something like Kama in? Delusional
>>569132935>
>Cuck Cu out of being a playable character again.>But instead, add his master as the Lancer in HSR.Please, God, make this happen. This would actually make me play hsr for real.
>>569070714some guy on l eddit said about genshin>Hoyoverse made Genshin at an initial budget of $100M, which officially made it the 12th in the list of big budget games. The next year, they issued a statement mentioning that it costs $200M per year to produce new content and keep everything running on schedule.>The numbers do make sense because they have 700+ people on this IP. Considering an average yearly wage of $75K (IT pays a lot more than this), it makes it a minimum of 50M+ per year in salaries. Then there is full voice acting in four languages, marketing, production design, servers and a lot more.>The closest official competitor will be Star Citizen, which is probably never gonna release and Cyberpunk 2077 which comes in third now. The first Destiny may be a close competitor as the devs have unofficially stated that it cost them $500M to 'develop the franchise', whatever that means.>Return on Investment: Considering that they have spent 500M until now and they make $3.7B per year, the ROI is around 1380%. Meaning for every dollar that they put in, they get back ~$15, which is just f**ing crazy!!this was 4 years ago200M per year does seems reasonable for high budget games
>>569133035You realize that means they signed off on it, right? They did not design shit for this game lmao, the chinks make all the art and credit Hackeuchi and Nasu since they are the creators of said characters and have final say over what gets published. But they do not go to a design board and say "Yep lets get to work for chink slop". Do you not understand how rights work?Do you also think Nasu wrote that dogshit collab "plot" last year? Even HSR players knew it was trash lmao.
>>569133191They actually invest in R&D too which is how they ended up with the most efficient mobile engine
>>569133323Takeuchi was the original concept artist and Rin is the most symmetrical HSR character to date so it must be outside influence
>>569133323>They did not design shit for this game lmao, the chinks make all the artFaggot do I need to make you suck off gayboy gil and emiya againDumbfuck
>>569133073And this would be easy to add her in by simply reuse her twin's model.
>>569133323Takeuchi did the concept art your right about Nasu not writing that ass collab plot though.
>>569133405I bet the reason why Gil looks ugly as shit was because they needed him to look different than their Temu Gil
>be hoyoverse>announce UBW collab>add Saber (not the route heroine) >add Rin (her ult is Ishtar's NP)>add Gilgamesh (he's ugly) >don't add the main fucking character
>>569133405why are shart rail designs always asymmetrical for some reason
>>569133458What the fuck are you blabbing about retard? Gil and Emiya have had zesty fits in the past yes, that doesn't mean Takeuchi got to work for HSR. They throw their names on as the original creators of said chars.>>569133405They have a few other chars with more symmetry. In general I know this is still HSR designers, I played that shit game for a year and it's immediately obvious it's their usual team. No idea why anons itt think Takeuchi penned this slop, the long skirt at the back gives it away instantly, even redditors complain about it on every female char they release.>>569133598It's in reference to Fate original designs bro. Not the designs for this game, that is chinkland 100%.
>>569133891Read, faggot.
>>569131751>no /u/ and all powerlevelsseas and pajeets don't play FGO this a LATAM game
Can tourists go back to their CCP generals I don't care about their stupid chink games
>>569134063its on topic stfu
>>569134203>talking about non-canon stuff going down on other gamesNot really
>>569133191I think Lasagna has less 100 people working for them, and most of them are not in IT at all. I think 5/10M (probably even less because the yen is so weak right now) for Lasagna's costLichess has a very convenient spreadsheet about server cost https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSkHLJKJkb0ZuI4/preview?pli=1- They have way more players that us, but let's round it up at 1MLet's say to organize live events, commercials and other operating cost we also spend another 10Mmeaning we just to run as we do now, we spend about 20M every year. Of course Aniplex wants to make money and TM wants their shar too, so let's double that at 40M. As long as FGO makes that much money, in all their operations, not only the game, but also merch, events etc, There is no way in hell they will end the game.If fake numbers are to be taken even a bit seriously, fgo makes this kind on money in just 2/3 months.Remember, you are here forever
>>569134203Why they shoved Ishtar up ass her again?
>>569134272Rin uses ishtar np so its on topic
>>569134203Should we also discuss Battle Cats since they collaborated with Fate too?
Now that FGO and CCP are intimately linked, can we get another China chapter?
>>569134375Obviously? Any other stupid questions?
>>569134291they are slowly prepping for the full fgo collab the "ubw" part was a lie btw.
>>569134318And? What does this have to do with anything I posted.
>>569134387A Chinese chapter that doesn’t just exist to wank QSH would be nice.
>>569134375look >>569131791its a fgo collab
I can’t wait when they add Mashu to the collab next.
>make ishtar>without the revealing design>without her feetchinks sterilized games are disgusting kek, especially HSR which is known to go out of its way to have revealing females and more homo shilling than hoyo's other main titleswhat a waste
>>569134489if they do another Chinese chapter it's going to be 3 kingdom chapter, or a Journey to the west proper chapter. I'm also betting in a real Egypt chapter
>>569119153This is the closest we'll get to two major gachas collaborating because HSR Rin has FGO Ishtar shit kekWell I doubt this new generation considers FGO a big gacha...but it kinda was, during its prime, at least in Japan.
>>569134787Hope so Sangzang needs a AU.
Rin smelly armpits
>>569134545Like I said should we discuss Battle Cats too?
>>569135246from what i have seen hsr is the first fate collab ever to reference fgo stuff so battle cats would not be on topic because it's only fate stay night collab
>>569134203Since when are fanfics on-topics?
>>569134973>weNigga who is "we"? Do you work at Aniplex, TM or Lasengle?
>>569134203>pls 10 years old png collector help us still be relevant...We kept fucking up so much that every game except for Genshin is flopping hard, we had to put our precious child HI3rd on early maintenance because we fucked up Part 2 big time
>>569135626KekSad, but true
paenisbros...
>>569096516Probably some shit likeGilgameshScathach and CuAzrael and KHHeraclesJeanne and Jeanne Alter for Extra 1Beasts for Extra 2
>>569136752Fuck of
>>569135483We as players, as this will never happen again
>>569130651these coordinated attacks are kinda cool, I wonder if they'll be specific for fate characters
>>569131152pretty sure that's the double speed animation, leakers didn't upload the base animation it seems like
>>569132357>they make Kama and Ishtar pander to HSR mihomocucks and cuck GudaGood lord
>>569139335Based
>>569139335Can't wait for Kama and Ishtar to both want Archer in HSR. Even with Caelus it will be funnyGudacucks meltdown soon
My predictions for Past Chaldea chapter characters: >Demeter>Kama>Lakshmibai>Fergus mac Roich>Kato Danzo>Ono-no-Komachi
I have 30 SQTomorrow's new servant better be good
>>569139762
Why do I feel like Shirou will be added with Muramasa's traits mixed into him, similar to how Rin was added with Ishtar in HSR?Sakura is a 50/50 between BB and Kama, but if I were Nasu, I’d go with BB since it makes so much sense. HSR’s sci-fi setting lines up perfectly with his beloved Extra series.
>It's literally Rin>She's just reusing some NP because chinkslop can't come up with anything for Rin>Tourists latch onto Kama... when she's literally not Sakura and Parvati exists>And they think of shitposting with archerYeah just ban them, off topic schizoshit as fuck
I think the stream will decide if I will stick with the game or quit once and for all.I will give it a chance if the new arc is 7 chapters long and has a new opening, I think even nips would revolt if we had to go through that much again just for everything to still get erased anyway.If it's four chapters I don't doubt it will end up in the same way as the old ending, probably with an extra shot of Olga, and maybe Romani if they bring him back, watching Guda and Mashu cross paths.
Have they scrubbed the credits+post-credits video from the internet? I genuinely can't find it
I did it bros! B.B.!
>>569139790Agree!!!
>>569140368Must be nice to be happy about that.I got her to NP5 while failing to get Tenoch, it made me so mad to get my first NP5 5* ever by failing to get a 4*
>>569140368Based Hakuno
>>569140510Go back to your chinkslop, brown
>>569139335Theyre shipping Rin with Archer if anything, her kit is handcrafted for him and they have a joint attack together.
>>569140676Next year with Kama
I hope whatever comes tomorrow is appealing, I haven't rolled in ages
>>569140708Not a FSN character
>>569140368Literally built for big hakuno cock
>>569139651Your mother embarrassed birth a retard like you
>>569140789Then why do you have so few quartz
https://x.com/Tsukiya_a/status/2061700720462901370not a single white person among them
>>569140789>Not even enough for a pityThis is chump change
Absolutely dead
>>569137051>jeanne and jeanne alterIt's gonna be dantes, jeanne and bb (the ones that got 'super' form).>BeastsLmao no, Beast and Shielder won't be affected by Extra I or Extra II ces, so there's gonna be a Mashu+UO special CE for that shit.Extra II will be Abigail, Oberon, and someone else filling in for Alter Ego. Possibly Kazuradrop so it's like a tea party Oberon is forced to humor.
>>569141681That's what happens when you don't play the game. I would know because I only have 300
>>569142480>he's not a luckCHADyikes, 600ish quartz is enough for NP3
>>569139651What a retarded image
How is Rin associated with Ishtar if FGO was 'deleted forever' from the universe? It doesn't count when is about buffing his FSN rejects?
>>569143138Yeah just a bunch of tourist invading with their shitty images.
Nasu will drive Mihomo insane when he tries to explain why it is absolutely necessary for Lev to be in HSR.
>>569144974You didn't get the memo when magi are only supposed to have 1 elemental affinity, but Nasu gave Rin every single one? Or when mfing zelretch himself came to glaze her?
>>569144974Did you miss the bit where despite being erased, somehow it all still counts?
Damn, the Extra remake is looking pretty fire.
>>569146110"The thing that matters the most, is the buff that I gave my most precious OCs. Please, HSR director sama, grant me my one wish!"And then the mushroom clicked his heels and threatened to run away from FGO (Sony dragged him back)
>>569130651Archer is now Rin's gemdaddy
>>569146139Crazy to think that the Extra visuals aren't going to look half as fluid as this
>>569146139The mismatched socks is pissing me off
>>569145572>Nasu will drive Mihomo insane when he tries to explain why it is absolutely necessary for Lev to be in HSR.Lev has his own chink con. Never understimate anyone orbiting Solomon in China. Lev just became the stereotypical danmei regreful ML from those wife chasing crematorium setups.
>>569145572China loves Lev.
Go on Nasu, put all your extraverse autism into the hsr collab
Hail to the ccp
Why is everyone acting like Nasu wrote the fate event
>>569150595Tourists
>>569119423wow cute girl huh
>>569150742Saber Galahad soon.
Please love them Lasagna
>>569128619>You also don't see shit like Galahad's shield.By all rights he should have it since Galahad's shield is 100% a Human Order artifact and is the same NP the Human Order uses to protect itself. However it is true they skipped literally every opportunity to show it if it is the case. Even Akilleus Kosmos became a hand-me-down, but I guess Nasu just thought doing that to Lord Camelot would be too much.
>>569151083I have to imagine Kosmos is one of those types that Gil can't really fully tap into their conceptual side so it's just a shield.Like how he has the Gae Bolg prototype but can't to the sure hit meme.
>>569150861Funny thing is that if he's even coming at all he's 10x more likely to come as Ruler or Gatekeeper than Shielder. Despite Mashu not even being a Shielder anymore. Funny how the Mushroom works.
>>569151083>>569151371Kosmos is just a reference in SF. Literally can't be the real thing according to rules
>>569151390Do you think the artist just gives up on her getting a swimsuit in FGO?
>>569151390Surely she's gonna do something this part, right?
>>569151371Naturally. He wouldn't be able to wield Galahad's shield either even if he had it, according to OC4. They repeat a few times that certain weapons require certain wielders that they choose when talking about Rhongo/Excal vs Olga. But Kosmos is still adamas so it shouldn't even have been outright broken by a casual Hippo attack anyway. Like anon said, probably just a thoughtless reference.
Tomorrow's the big day
Did Gil do shield spam in FSN? I remember it more from Prisma kek.
And then next year, HSR just gets Paladin Mash.
>>569136752I've only seen lewds of him and Hansa fucking
>>569142480I have never, ever needed pity on my 9 years of playing FGO to get that sweet, sweet LOADING screen.
>>569151441There are no rules.
>>569153660Nice CEs bro
>>569153327Souless
>>569151743He did it in the LN version of the dog fight in Zero, and he used a mirror shield to deflect a spell from Illya in the Fate route. Don't recall it popping up elsewhere until SF. Of course SF is spiritually a 2008 Type-Moon story rather than an FGO era one.
>>569153791Please don't fuck your dad Olga
>>569153753You don't get a loading when it's a new CE
Some nip pointed out that the unused Corrupted Camelot looks like those pillars.
>>569153895I guess the loading it's because the voice files.
>>569153753>all those times I've gotten a 5* with a random ass ticketLuck EX baby
>>569153978Is that from Arcade?
>>569151083>By all rights he should have it since Galahad's shield is 100% a Human Order artifact and is the same NP the Human Order uses to protect itself.Nasu wants to keep as special never have their shit added on Gil's vault: Most of Artoria stuff, Galahad, Solomon, Memelin, Karna (Karna was back then Nasu's favorite boy, he was the servant he designed as 'his' and was the runner up as FSN antagonist instead of Gil).
>>569154136To be fair I feel like most of Memelin's items aren't as special as he is? While Solomon is at least 70% carried by the rings. They're just that ridiculous.
>>569154135I don't know where they pulled those. I wonder if it's the Tachie's version of Lord Camelot. But if it is based on this corrupted Camelot, the Merlin truthers are getting more food.
>>569153895I've gotten burned by that belief a couple of times actually. It's a very brief Loading but it's not that much different from getting a new Servant that it's easy to get mixed up.
To be fair the pillars aren't really that unique looking. Creepy eyes where they shouldn't be is just corruption 101.
There's nothing that points at Galahad being the first PU, stop being delusional.
>>569154282 Solomon's throne and rings can witshand a ground zero supernova explosion without melting. Average NP breaks when you overheat with some mana (check Deermud's chains). It's seriously powerful.But if Solomon's rings/throne come from God = Root, it's just the same as Excalibur and Rhon, owned by a celestial sphere not a human.
>>569131016>Archer's UBW also looked very meh and Artoria's excaliblast was also somehow lukewarm when it's nearly impossible to fuck up.all the fsn characters have better animations and effects than they do in FGO and thats all that truly matters
>>569154518*spearsbut speaking of chains, enkidu/the chain of heaven ACTUALLY break down and shatter with less power than than too. Mashu's shield could also get melted down, it's only when used that's unbreakable, but it just shows that throne and rings as completely fucking indestructible.
>>569154494what the fuck is a pu
>>569154282Solomon was born without humanity and having authorities divine and royal up his ass according to Roman. So the rings probably worked because of this too.He didn't look like his dad but Roman does. Roman getting called "human" version of Solomon makes me think God modified Solomon in the womb.
>>569154825One of our many filter words for filthy tourists like you
Levomon being able to nope out 7 supernovas cause of light manipulation still sounds really fucking stupid.
>>569154856Shows the power of Love. Maris should have just recreated Roman, put him in a bikini to distract him.
>>569154463>corruption 101Chris Metzen, CHRIS METZEN! We've got Chris Metzen here!
Can't believe arc 3's gonna end with an outer god waking up and Fate GO was a dream all along.
>>569155331>outer godAre were taking Meteo filler gods as serious plot figures? Dark Star dreaming works better because is an actual OC Nasu made for this.
>>569153978Imagine this up your ass (haha)
>>569150595they also think takeuchi did the designs when rin is wearing that shitty long skirt and has one sock higher than the other lolat this point its just hoyoshills trying to hype themselves up when its clear type moon did nothing but give shart rail permission to collab and use the chars
We're so close bros
>>569155542Why is he white
>>569155542... for Herkek to get nothing while Camelotkino gets all the attention
>>569155647>Camelot>Kino>bunch of losers actively babied all the time, the minute supervision disappears they implodeYour definition of kino is weird
Velber kino soon.
>>569155946Beaten offscreen by Hakuno sorry bro
>>569155542He has yellow eyes dumb slopper
>>569130345CCC's is just the stronger version of the Zero one.The windblast from FSN is due to him not wanting to tear the world's texture.Moon Cell will fix the textures whenever Gil uses EE in it so Gil just goes all out.
>>569155526Anon you may be retarded
>>569157639thats not hackeuchi, thats someone basing artstyle on himcope mihomo cuck
>>569157639I'd recognize that lineart anywhere
>>569157814>
>>569154856Nasu wills it, you will love Lev.
>>569155946>Extella and Altera flopped so badly that they were forced to reboot Extra instead of continuing on expanding the Extella timeline, plus Charlie ended up way more popular than herUhm anon...
>>569158219I'm surprised they made Gil the welfare and Rin the rate up, but that's the kind of stupid thing Mihoyo would do.
>>569157639This is way too competent to be Takeuchi
>>569158812It's not really surprising since female chars sell more than male ones
>>569158812HSR has way men players than women, and they're the kind that wouldn't touch a male unit with a 5 ft stick so it makes sense that in this case Rin is more profitable despite being less popular
>>569158812Rin is one of the most popular female characters in anime history, Gil is a homo. The math was clear over who to give out as a F2P
>>569159307Gil is basically the 2nd mascot of the franchise after Artoria.
>>569159307>Gil is a homo*bislut
>>569159307Rin is so heisei era. It's what happens when every-time she shows up in a spin off It's not really Rin except for CF
Do we really need tourist hour in a non FSN related general? Fuck off
Is Ishtar is going to come packaged with Rin all the time now?
>>569150595It's a rerun of last yearThe spamming, I mean
>>569160545>btw Rin has Ishtar powers now because yesWill Sion (True) be able to summon Hermes Tri when she returns to Melty? Damn mushroom...
>>569158219retardbro...that same pic lists nasu as story supervisor when its clear he wasntthey put the names on as respect, chinks were in full creative control
If Gil isn't a rapist I don't care.
>>569161136rin...you wanted him that bad?
>>569161032Keep coping anon
>>569161136Gil hasn't been a rapist for 20 years, and even then Nasu probably just wanted to do some edgy writhing if you want to see how he writes a rapist character check out Roa.
>>569161543whatever you wanna tell yourself to sleep better at night, chinkbroim sure typemoon sent their best over for a shitty collab
>>569161991>Stay Night Girugamesh was just him overstimulated and hungry so he's buttmad He's just like frfr
What is Mashu's personality?
>>569163301I gotta get in there!
>>569160918She'll summon Nemo harem.
>>569163301built for me
>>569122416reminder that Takeuchi sold of Saber to Gil like a cheap whorebut well, I guess he was always a cuck, so he's consistent at least
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>>569161136Is Gil a rapist on fgo?
>>569159907nights are SEA territory
>>569161032>when its clear he wasntsauce? or cope?
>>569163821eggplant
>>569165886>white skirt instead of blackThis triggers me
>>569165886Rin's massive milkers
>>569154312>>569154135>>569153978This is from Fate/Unpublished Materials. It's the original form of Galahad's Lord Camelot before it was changed and reworked into what it is today. It used to be based on the Eye of Sauron and Minas Morgul, since this shit was designed when LOTR first came out. Galahad's NP, High Lord Camelot, is said to have been reworked based on this old design, where the Round Table would be like an Eye of Sauron which fired beams, which is why there are similarities.
we need futa servant
>>569166590Ishtar is stored in the tits
>>569129604Even the fucking arcade model looks better since it follows Takeuchi character design.
>>569166675>It used to be based on the Eye of Sauron and Minas Morgul, since this shit was designed when LOTR first came outAdd another one to the list kek
>>569167121Hoyo can't into spiky hair, he actually looks ok with his hair down
>>569167121Man the model really wasn't done well. It's not just the slicked-back hair; the placement of the facial features, the face shape, and the hairstyle all combined make it look uncoordinated.
>>569167534Where his nose...?
>I wasn't expecting Ordeal Call IV to end in a battle against Galahad.>Nasu: I didn't think you would. A game can't afford to be predictable on the gameplay level. We could have Lilith as the boss, but everyone already knows what she does because she's on the gacha banner. We set you up to think it would end with just Lilith, then introduced Galahad as a story-exclusive surprise.>How was his Noble Phantasm animation designed?>Nasu: The design, not the animation itself, had been ready for years.>Takeuchi: The Shielder class predates its incarnation as Mash. Its design concept was made for a project of an alternative retelling of Fate/stay night in the form of a movie adaptation. Her prototype was a character named Tachie, who would use a Noble Phantasm that summoned the castle gates to shoot beams. The decision for this one was to salvage reference material from the storyboards PFALZ drew all the way back then and rework it into a Noble Phantasm downright rude in its offensive force.>It's amusing that his Noble Phantasm is offensive.>Nasu: Agreed. What really makes it land is how he unironically says "To defend means to defeat the opponents". This kind of emotionally-distant lack of common sense is so Galahad. Can you believe this guy is Lancelot's son? You can see the similarities with the new Galahad design. The Round Table would've appeared at the center of the wall and fired a beam like Galahad does in the actual NP. Personally the idea of a Round Table that moved like an organism around the walls like a burrowing eye of sauron sounds genius, they should've kept that idea even if it doesn't make much sense for Galahad to display a corrupted-looking Camelot.
>>569167724It's that single line by his lower bang>tfw there are people who think Takeuchi isn't a hack
I still hold my belief Gogghers is there for a Foreigner story.
Sex with the banana goblin
>16 hours
>>569092153Yes, the big tittied girl who's guaranteed to be on screen quite a bit should have a sluttier swimsuit, you homo.
>>569158657>plus Charlie ended up way more popular than herAnd just to bury them further, Charlie's probably upstaged by Richard as the Peppy Dumbass King Knight now.
>>569165398engagement sluts
>>569165886dem tiddies
>>569172252I thought everyone hated Mashu
>>569173654I've already resigned myself to the fact that we'll end up with heryou should too
>>569175113
>>569104307
the absolute mental retardation of the fgo community surprises me to no end.predicts the most absurd nonsense even if we already know the title and theme of the chapter.
>>569173654I like her
Past Chaldea (fixed timeline).
>>569177729I can't think Moneybills as Olga's dad but her mom. Maris, Mashu and Olga mama.
>>569168387Wait but those holes kind do remind me of the goo.
>LB4 Mashu gets upset about people forgetting their loved ones and important moments>that finaleDoes Nasu even fucking read the fucking story? How that makes sense?
>>569177729>Billy, I'm cutting you off the internet. This AI nonsense is not good for you>Of course, Solomon-sama.
>>569179001Anon, there are like seven hundred mentions throughout all of LB chapters about how Guda and Mashu keep swearing on their lives that they will always remember their adventures and all the people they met (and erased). The fucking FSF collab, that was supposed to have released last year, pre-finale had Guda reassure like three different characters that he would always remember them, no matter what. Like, this went way beyond just LB4
>>569179001I'm genuinely curious whether people who still post these things are doing an odd version of engagement farming in an anonymous imageboard, or are legitimately this retarded.
Mash never forgot Brogart
i can feel it, Arthur will have a minor role while Mooooosashi will be shilled to the max
>>569178112Solomeme/Romani is Marisbury's heroine ergo the mother of the Chaldea dynamics, Marisbury is the emotional absent father
>>569177197>predicts the most absurd nonsense even if we already know the title and theme of the chapter.We don't know shit, how the fuck can you guess anything out of "old chaldea" as if you could guess anything from some random shit like TRAUM
>>569179503sauce or shitpost?
>>569179738In Typeu Moonu men usually get the plot relevancy over the female cast. But in this particular case both Nasu and Sakurai really love Musashi.
>>569179001Yes, that's why she was clearly all chill and composed about it at the ending and seemed like it was no big deal to her. It definitely wasn't like this was clearly the absolute most tortuous sacrifice that could be asked of her, especially given that we know for a fact that she would've had no problem with merely sacrificing her life on account of the fact that she already fucking did that with a smile on her face.
>>569181192She was sad for two minutes and got over it.
Real talk now, adult Hans when?
>>569183728He's in jail for fucking nursery rhyme
>>569179001The entire ending was fuckedNasu read up on ME2 indoctrination theory and had a field day
I think it's just that people are having trouble believing that a writer with such a track record of perfectly happy, not at all bittersweet golden-route endings would write something like a main character who's doomed to die young either way, or routes where an innocent girl who's made a victim is not saved so she can live a long peaceful life, or the MC getting deleted with only a record of their lives being preserved.Clearly Nasu is saying that forgetting is not a big deal and we should be happy doing it. Because it's something the main characters are doing willingly, and there's no way Nasu would force his characters to do sad, painful things on the way to the endings.
>14 hours left
Don't worry bros, Daybit has our back, he will remember everything about our journey!Well, at least a bit of it.
>>569183568
>>569184565wife
>>569184672He will remember a bit. Per day. A day-bit, if you will.
>>569184245FGO ending wasn't bittersweet, it's a travesty. In literally no ending, Nasu denies the journey. That's basically the fucking point. If they had all died and shipped Mashu into PHH as she is via bullshit as the one who recalled it, then would have been acceptble, but instead we got lobotomy and everything erased. It's like the ending Rin erases Shirou's memory in UBW and forces him to live a normal life.
>>569184245Don't try to insult our intelligence when Nasu has already established in OC3 being pruned worse than a bad and dead end. To the point even Kirei thinks it's shit and unfair.
>>569185062No, you're simply a whiny faggot and the idea that anything was "denied" is nonsense. There was simply no grand reward greater than survival. It's a slightly better deal than Hakuno got in the original Extra, and a good deal better than Shiki in the original Tsukihime where he probably would've just died of an aneurysm a few years later while Arcuied slept forever.
Mashu enjoyers
>>569185394>Don't try to insult our intelligence when Nasu has already established in OC3 being pruned worse than a bad and dead endI know nobody read that chapter and just whines about summaries, but the reason that pruning was especially bad was because it came about humanity having all the cards to move into the future and then strangling itself simply to avoid birthing something greater than itself. It was the one conclusion so repulsive that simply jerking themselves to death on a pleasure pod was considered more dignified.
>>569185056watashi no harem
>8-year story arc about the memories and legacy of doomed worlds>grand architect of the entire scheme wants to replace the entire world and substitute it with his own where people are stupid and don't think about anything>highest priority is secrecy and obfuscation, doing everything possible to cover the trail and hide the crimes>story ends in a shady and inconclusive manner and the main characters completely forget about everything that happened, all in a manner that would be a golden ticket for the antagonist
>>569185571>survivalAlleged survival. If Reines denies Olga in FGO as a "different person" from the one she knows, and it's literally the same with Memelin and different Artoria versions. Why should we consider Guda and Mashu the same? The real Guda and Mashu deleted themselves.
>>569185571Their ending is no different from Hakuno's in Extra, actually, except it applies to everything and everyone in the game after a decade, rather than a one-note route like Memehime whining over a jobber getting to nap for a while.
Didn't Noah spoil Chaldea exists in the future anyway?
>>569186432Survival of everyone else. Yeah, they sacrificed themselves to achieve that, this is by no means unsurprising, the entire story was about them genociding worlds on the argument that preserving Panhistory was worth it and the ending was simply "ok, fine, but that includes the minute handful of you too, do you have the balls to make the same sacrifice"? The main characters being denied the thing they most value isn't exactly new, Nasu's been doing it ever since Shiki, the guy who above all else valued "being alive", was doomed to die soon either way in every ending. Ilya also survives in one ending, in which she has six months to live.You're angry because the ending wasn't everyone just putting everything back together and going to eat cake. That is an understandable position. Just hold that position instead of trying to come up with absurd over-dramatic nonsense like "denying the journey".
>>569187653In none of those cases they had to sacrifice the journey.A more couragous ending would have had them destroy PHH, erase FSN, and outdated Type Moon works to start from scratch. That's how american comics pull continuity updates. It would even explain why old Mahoyo and old Tsukihime got replaced. It would tie up very nicely.
>>569187653>That is an understandable position. Just hold that position instead of trying to come up with absurd over-dramatic nonsense like "denying the journey".It was a denial of the journey.>ShikiIs alive at the end of Tsukihime, he's even a half vampire in the new Ciel route. Where is this imaginary belief he lost anything?
>>569187653>genociding worlds on the argument that preserving Panhistory was worth itWe also made sure to promise each and every world we genocided that we would remember them.
>>569184672I miss him so much, I miss all the crypters actually.
>>569187653>"ok, fine, but that includes the minute handful of you too, do you have the balls to make the same sacrifice"No sacrifice was made.Not even Da Vinci died. Not even fucking Meuniere.Literally the only sacrifice was rendering the entire stories of beloved characters meaningless after Nasu's character is a fucking bug that seethes at the idea that fantasies must be forgotten and denied which is what the ending does.The ending does a disservice not to the MC or Mashu but to all the characters that it spent events and main stories to build. The whole segment where we don't even get OUR LB servants who're god knows where at that moment but the "versions from when they died" from the LB was also retarded.
Sisters they did our men so dirty
>>569188019>In none of those cases they had to sacrifice the journey.There were "hints" that they were going to rewind the clock, due to the obvious fact that the earth was completely turbo fucked and there were like a dozen humans still alive, up until the characters flat out said in no uncertain terms "solving this will rewind the clock" over half a year before the ending added the sole addendum "and you will forget what happened".The journey still happened, and the continuation of history is its result. It just took the memories of a handful of people to bring it about. It's okay not to like it, but you're trying to come up with absurd high-sounding reasons to not simply say "I'm mad the characters didn't get a more flawless deal".>A more couragous ending would have had them destroy PHH, erase FSN, and outdated Type Moon works to start from scratch.I think you've reached the point where you're just throwing shit at the wall ("Let's destroy the thing we did all this for and somehow end up with Goetia's original plan which we somehow can execute ourselves now") to continue the conversation, so I'm gonna disengage now.
>>569188974I just know Wuwa's Cu would've been pure sexo.
Who cares, it's not the ending and it was rendered meaningless already>B-B-BUTIf that was not the case this new part wouldn't exist.>BB-B-B-B-B-BUT FAN DISK ANDIrrelevant conjecture based on nothing like the dismissal the """"""finale""""""" felt off to everyone with a brain that wasn't just trying to force FGO ending when it didn't and won't anytime soon.
>>569188774>No sacrifice was made.Don't forget about poor Habetrot that got sent to the incinerator offscreen lol
>>569188774It's funny how these arguments just loop back to "no, the ending can't be sad, the author MUST be saying that this is a good thing to happen". You're in so much pain that the third sentence even dissolves into a nonsensical run-on. This game truly mindbroke you fags.
>>569188974NPC tier assets
>>569186203>famous detective>"the world didn't understand Marisbury's genius" said about a man who wanted to drain all mystery and nuance from the worldWhat was his angle here? Marisbury would be the greatest detective in history by solving all mysteries simultaneously? Or was it just the crack talking?
>>569189250I want to suck his cocks so bad bros
>>569188349I haven't been part of these seethe fests, so I'm guessing that the loop is always someone mentions Daybit in response, you go "No, that doesn't count!" (despite him being an objectively superior permanent memorial to anything any human could ever conceivably erect) and just looping back to "everyone forgot"? Like, what Daybit does is a much better, far more permanent version than the memorials Dust of Osiris/Lion King/Zeus wanted to set up. It's better than the memory of any human being.
>>569189637A sad ending can be done without it being a stupid ending.Defending it simply because it's """sad""" since you want to shitpost and vent your hatred of fgo while defending the poor quality of the story, just like OC3's themes which were just Kojima rehash, tells how much credibility the "ending" defenders have.LB6 has a destructive, sad, and yet awfully respected and beloved ending. Because it's done properly with the themes conveyed through it..
>>569185571>>569186693Not really the same since Hakuno at least saved Rin/Rani and his journey wasn't deleted even if he himself was. I really don't like endings where they retcon the entire journey, I don't mind the MC dying but deleting the entire thing and the characters just going back to normal like nothing happened just feels hollow.
>>569190139Yeah but just for a bit.
>>569190192>OC3's themes which were just Kojima rehashNobody here has ever read OC3, have you?
>>569190257>he
>>569189073>The journey still happened,No, it didn't. That's the point of pruned things. They are denied from existing and ever happening, that's what is described it happens. Stop trying to cope with your poor reading comprehension. > ("Let's destroy the thing we did all this for and somehow end up with Goetia's original plan which we somehow can execute ourselves now") Goetia's plan is denying history, but FSN isn't history, it's a failed timeline. Even Gilgamesh understands that, that's why he went delete mode when he was summoned in FSN, opposite of Extra, which he judges as a better outcome.Survival of the fittest is the rule, "PHH" is unable to survive. I think that's what is going to be revealed, that's why the PV girl is mocking the decision made, and why it would reach a bad ending.Mahoyo and Tsukihime got remakes, if FGO ending was supposed to originally tie in with Tsukihime remake (according to Nasu), explaining the new Tsukihime was born of the new world would make sense.
>>569190420>has
>>569190192>your hatred of fgo>just like OC3's themes which were just Kojima rehash
>>569190328Play death stranding, it's literally the same plotline of humanity going exctinct but refusing to give up except Kojima has Jesus Reedus and his daughter save humanity and kill off the future species.
>>569188974Is this suppose to be the superior 3D Chinese gacha models that I always hear about?
>>569181192>Going out on a high note after paling with Gods, Heroes and Monsters>Being forced to be a wagie
>>569190497>Even Gilgamesh understands that, that's why he went delete mode when he was summoned in FSN,Not summoned IN FSN, but you're correct.You know this is an interesting point. Why is Gilgamesh chill with any timeline but specificially FSN? Nasu said the "low quality" of humans made him act that way. If they are so low quality, it means they are failures who would never evolve.
To be honest most of OC3 flew over my head.I've read the words but I couldn't make sense out of them and what was about toilet man.
>>569190717The only mihoyo game that does different proportions is ZZZ, the rest just use a body/face template for whatever character they need to shill for the next patch to come.
>>569190654>it's literally the same plotline of humanity going exctinct but refusing to give upThis is what I mean. People who think that the Archetype being born would cause humanity to go extinct is the obvious sign that you haven't even read it. The stubbornness is what's causing the extinction. Even the Mooncancer explicitly says this. You get the story exactly backwards because you can't read, and then go about like retards thinking that the story is about Nasu syaing humanity needs to lie down and die.
>>569190846I thought he just didn't like modern day society in general, regardless of timeline. He was not happy in FSF either and initially just wanted to chug the youth potion, but was placated because Enkidu was around. CCC had him in the mooncell at least.
>>569190867Basically Nasu saying humans should give up and die when their time on the planet is over and leave the baton for the next species.Which is retarded as fuck and goes against most stories he wrote about human perseverance.Kojima wrote the same exact plotline, except humans perservere and win.Except it's Kojima so he wrote it like absolute nonsense.
>>569191185Didn't they say that the AIs would shut down eventually after the Archetype got released? Like not right then and there like with toilet man, but I think they mentioned that they would go out of comission in a few years/centuries and the Archetype was basically them peaking.
>>569190497>but FSN isn't history, it's a failed timeline. Even Gilgamesh understands that, that's why he went delete mode when he was summoned in FSN, opposite of Extra, which he judges as a better outcome.You really just fired off into the most retarded tangent you could've chosen, did you? Literally every piece of information we have points to the FSN-Case Files timeline being Panhistory.
>>569190846The past 20 years have been retconning FSN Gilgamesh to be mudded because they don't anyone to remember that one of the most popular recurring characters is a monster who openly threatens to rape the main heroine.
>>569191185>People who think that the Archetype being born would cause humanity to go extinctAnd where did I say that, you retard? Making up reasons to pretend people don't grasp a plot so you can grandstand?
All this discussion proves OC3 is a mess.
>>569190846>His divinity fucked him over when he got incarnated+grail mud bath+ post economic bubble japan was an absolute shithole+lived with a sociopath+his last master was plaining to get him to commit sudokuHis default personality is CCC's according to Nasu
>>569191462illya is the main heroine
>>569191641It's the worst OC writing wise, but it is more entertaining than OC1.
>>569191462He was already hagging up with kids in HA
Well
>>569191734My cute 12 years old wife and no amount of pruning will change that.
>>569191360>Didn't they say that the AIs would shut down eventually after the Archetype got released?No, but either way it's not like they're forced either way. The point is that the Archetype wouldn't do anything to humans, but it would mark the definitive passing of the torch, because humanity built something that surpassed it by every metric they could've possibly think of. So anything we do afterwards will be playing in our own space, but the Archetype will be the top species going forward. The Mooncancer describes it as "the humiliation of being no more than a pet" to it, not in the sense of servitude but that there's this obviously greater entity that has the reins now and can do whatever we do but better.Humanity can continue or chose not to, it's not forced to do anything either way, but there is the obvious loss of the sense that we are the vanguard of exploration and development. The obvious metaphor is accepting that eventually you'll be surpassed by new generations and will have to let them take the reins. It's Tiamat seen from the other perspective. Basically, it's about how Boomers need to fucking retire already.
>>56919192910 MORE YEARS OF AVALON DU FAEt.Aniplex & the mushroom
>>569191929I would rather buy a fumo for that price.
>>569191929Imagine putting her in a jar.
>>569191256Isn’t OC3 mostly a metaphor about how stories are meant to have endings? I interpreted it as him saying FGO needs to end to make way for future TM works, and that wanting FGO to continue even when there’s nothing left for the story will turn it into a shell of itself.
>>569192270No. That's just schizo reading off what Nasu writes to spam agendas.
>>569191706The sociopath is one of the few people he liked, though. He doesn't care about what he finds enjoyable.
Considering that in Extella Artoria was gonna say to Hakuno(n) all the stuff that Gil did in SN and Gil told her to stop it, I wonder if he's ashamed of it, like how you cringe when you think back to all the edgy shit you did and said when you were 17.
>>569191191chug the youth potion isn't the same as trying to literal destroy most of the world.
>>569192493Oh yes Gil likes Kotomine a lot but idk man i feel like for your own sanity he isn't the best person to hang up with all the time.
>>569191256>Basically Nasu saying humans should give up and die when their time on the planet is over and leave the baton for the next species.See, this is what I mean. the antagonist force in the story was actively causing humanity to go extinct RATHER THAN pass the baton, and inexplicably you retards got the exact opposite idea. The thing trying to stop the Archetype was self-destructing humanity and making human-level intelligence physically impossible, and SOMEHOW you ended up thinking that the thing that was gonna kill us was the other guy.>>569191641You just need to actually read it instead of just browsing summaries like you fags.
>>569192643Well, he didn't spend a decade in post bubble japan
>>569191415>Literally every piece of information we have points to the FSN-Case Files timeline being Panhistory.Huh? That would contradict FGO where FGO original timeline is Panhistory. And FSN just can't happen because there's only one grail war, and Marisbills dies in 2004.He's quite alive and neeting around in Case Files and Adventures.
>>569192727>you ended up thinking that the thing that was gonna kill us was the other guy.And again, nowhere did I say this.You're so retarded you're reading shit that was never said. I said "Nasu saying", I didn't comment what happened in the story.Can you stop being autistic and think you understand the story better than anyone else? You clearly don't, you're just here to spam agendas like every other loreturd that's not from fgog.
>>569192994>[deleted] alreadyDamn is a janitor lurking rn?
Gil basically needs to be ego stroke by every Master he has, or have them 'prove' themselves to him.But Kirei told him to go fuck himself and he was on his knees, hoping he kills Tokiomi and takes him.How?
>>569192994Lions.
>>569193321Gil speaks a very specific language, you just need the secret sauce.Look at Andersen in CCC
>>569193007>And again, nowhere did I say this.>>569191256>Basically Nasu saying humans should give up and dieThis is, explicitly, not what the story is about. it's flat out backwards.
>>569193321Kotomine's superior alpha pheromones.
>Marisbury was so great guys>Remember that time he created a test tube baby and raised her in a downright abusive manner so she'd be the purest goodest girl to be able to use Galahad's power?>Remember when he mass murdered children to create Seraphix?>Remember when he abandoned his other test tube daughter and intended to use her as administrative program to manage a universal reboot and kill quadrillions of ayys?>Remember when he created command seals to blow up his own employees if they couldn't get the job done right?>Remember when his AI stood by watching Olga get tortured for a hundred years for shits and giggles?>And he was a good friend.
>>569193321Kirei has a way with words even Bazett thought that.
>>569191256>Basically Nasu saying humans should give up and dieThe antagonist is the one that's, in their own explicit words, choosing to lie down and die rather than accept succession. Death is not caused by succession, death is the choice taken to prevent anything new from being born.You haven't actually read this thing at all and your pretense to have done so is extremely silly.
>>569193791>RememberSorry I forgot
>>569193527And that's why I can recognize you didn't read the story but just what you wanted to read to come to that conclusion.
>>569191415Proper Human History is whatever timeline was FGO set in and modified and 'resolved'. That's, well, canon? It can't be FSN because Marisbilly never wins the auction of the eyes, there're 5 grail wars, and he never dies in 2004. Lev also exists, as far as we know, as three separate entities, while he was always Lev Lainur Flauros in FGO (1999 date is when he joins Chaldea).Those are good deviations.It's probably 'close' to the main branch (FGO origin) but not the main branch itself.
>>569193321I mean, I get it too. Kirei is just that sexy.
>>569193791This is actually the most confusing thing about the finale like did Nasu forgot Galahad tried killing Marisbury when he was inside Mashu body?
>>569192386>spam agendas>>569193007>spam agendasWhat do you think "agenda" means?
>>569193321Gil will do whatever he wants regardless. He will just treat you less like garbage if you can speak with him nicely and properly. I like Caster Gil more because of that.
>>569193791Lev is the biggest cuck in history.
>>569193951Are you retarded or what?>The antagonist isThe antagonist is the one denying the new species from taking over.A new species taking over humanity being framed as positive or a good thing is retarded. Humanity shouldn't just give up and die so a new series can take over, even if it's humanity's fault they're going extinct. Nasu writing it as if it's a good thing we "pass the baton" is at the core of why the finale is also retarded, and the entire point.You keep pretending you have an argument but you're just screeching people don't understand something when they do because there's no actual defense for dogshit themes written like crap.
>>569194163Galahad also tried to kill you. He's a dick.
>>569194219Kirei was super rude to him, and Gil was "Yes, daddy, harder" though. while Tokiomi tried to suck him off and he sneered at him even before he used a cs to make him retreat.
>>569194163The ambiguity the ending casts on Marisbury's character as a whole is its most clumsily written aspect if you ask me. I have no idea what, in truth, the real content of his character is, because it seems neither does the story or the characters. His verifiable actions are outwardly monstrous with little nuance, but the characters treat him as a kind of morally gray genius whom even they couldn't understand the objectives of.
>>569193321A while ago, one of those recap guys who written impressions described Tokiomi's, Gil's and Kirei's dynamic in Zero as of a boring rich guy, his bored wife, and the sexy young assistant of the husband the wife seduces, they murder him and take over his assets.Fitting.
>>569194502But he didn't though. In-fact he sudoku'd himself so as to not be forced to kill us.
>>569191256>Basically Nasu saying humans should give up and dieThis is the stated intent of the villain you're struggling against, by the way:>滅亡など怖くはない。どうあっても終わりはある。>この星に発生し、ともに滅びるのが我々の夢だった。On a more broad scale, it was trying to modify the rules of space so human-level intelligence would become impossible, thus preventing any higher-order being from ever being born, at the cost of destroying everything.What fucking Bizarro story did you motherfuckers read? Who summarized this for you?
>>569194057>there're 5 grail wars,I thought the entirety of FGO took place in a split timeline specifically because Moneybills used CHALDEAS to create an alternate reality for his HGW.Similar to how Apoc branches from the 3rd Fuyuki HGW, Moneybills just save edited until the Fuyuki HGW had never happened before.
>>569194336He's /our/ cuck.
>>569194502When?In OC4, even (You) noticed that he wasn't being aggressive when facing him and simply wanted Mashu to be her own person instead of aping him and failing miserably.
>>569194894You must be autistic since you keep spamming replies as if what I said isn't clear enough.Why are you so agitated over OC3 themes being dogshit like the finale? Screeching that people don't understand while they do isn't making you look any sane.
>>569194676Gil respects Kirei because they share the same goals and Gil admires people that have real strength and aren't pretentious or faking it. Tokiomi was scared of Gil and was always fake nice. Gil hates losers the most.
>>569194489>A new species taking over humanityNobody is "taking over humanity". The story ends with it getting yeeted into space to do its own thing.>Humanity shouldn't just give up and dieIt is explicitly the other way around.>screeching people don't understand something You keep explicitly saying the opposite of what the story is about though, so it's a clear indication you have no clue what the story says.But, anyway, if your core argument is that Saturn was the good guy for devouring his children (and in this version, catching a lethal case of indigestion he could've avoided otherwise), then... well, that's certainly a novel interpretation.
>>569165531i played the game along with every other hsr player. it was absolute dogshit writing signature of shart rail, not nasu. this isnt the same guy that wrote lb6 and 7 lol. even normalfags understood how trash the story was.
>>569194921>I thought the entirety of FGO took place in a split timeline specifically because Moneybills used CHALDEAS to create an alternate reality for his HGW.Not really. He just created a Lostbelt so he could participate in the War because for some unexplained vague reason, he wasn't allowed to, or there was something that was keeping him from joining. They never said there were 5 wars, in fact the whole timeline is different already before Fuyuki. Marisbills wins those special eyes from the auction, instead of sending Heartless. The context of sending heartless was for him to look up into the fourth Fuyuki war, the lack of Heartless here means there was no war for him to research, so he went and nabbed those eyes for his collection.There's just only one war. If the Grail is tainted, Marisbilly simply gives up and stays in the Mountains. As I said, Lev has 3 personalities while in FGO, he's a single entity, he is known as Lev Lainur since before 2004. He joins Chaldea in 1999. Which contradicts what appens in Clock Tower.
>>569195343>The story ends with(You) passing the baton for "humanity" and it being framed as bold and empowering because according to Nasu that's morally correct and what we should do in the "finale" that everyone hated.Btw the baton shit is literally in the trailer of this new arc, to double down on how retarded OC3 and the finale both are and his persistence to not understand it.>You keep explicitly saying the opposite of what the story is aboutI'm not, I'm just not validating your ego because you quite obviously think Nasu's themes validate you and are mad the majority hates that direction.
>>569194921He never used CHALDEAS because Chaldeas wasn't functional until after he won the war. They never said how many wars were before that, but Saber has literal Avalon in it and there's no Gilgamesh sighting at all. Cu and EMIYA seemed to be part of it, but the rest of the Servants are unknown. They change and rotate.
If giving the baton to next stage was the way to go...we shouldn't give the baton to a failed version of humans who couldn't protect themselves.Rather Kirschtaria's path was the answer and it's even the more thematically fitting with OC3 and Servant Universe.
>>569194057We are told explicitly that Marisbilly needed to do Singularity X because it was impossible for him to get his wish granted, and the obvious reason for that (Since a the 5th War definitely happens at a workable time for him) is that the grail is corrupted and can't grant his wish. Obviously, this means that before Singularity X, Grail Wars were a thing he could know about existing. He also got the idea for the FATE summoning system from SOMEWHERE.The obvious implication is that the FSN timeline is the normal one, and that just like every other Lostbelt, everything before the creation of the Lostbelt is a fake story created to bring coherence to that timeline. That's why there weren't other Grail Wars in this timeline, the new fake timeline didn't need those (and especially HAD to leave out the 3rd for obvious reasons).
>>569195715Ok, just to sum up, Saturn should've devoured all his kids and then killed himself, even if there was actually no danger of Zeus doing anything bad to him if he didn't try to eat him? Would that have been the good ending?
>>569193321As long as you're interesting to him you're fine, he wanted to see how the psycho priest who tried to be normal would end up like.
>>569196378>Ok, just to sum up, Saturn Not a human. Not related to what is being discussed.
would proto sabers morgan be male or female? imagine his sister stealing his semen like artorias morgan did
>>569196524Ok, fine. Let's try that again. If humans develop into Vorlon-like transcendent beings, we should kill them all and then nuke the planet and ourselves into dust just to prevent anything else from being born. Is that the message here?
>>569196156You need to re-read because you're mistaken about what lostbelt is fundamentally.>The Holy Grail War of 2004 was twisted throughsomeone's actions, and as a result, these coordinates are uncertain and unobservable... What was twisted was just 2004. Lostbelt starting point are the point of deviance. If Marisbilly modified the past, the year starting point of the deviance would be the year of the first grail war because he would have wiped it out.Do you understand what Lostbelts are? He simply modified the present war because he couldn't participate for some reason we don't know. This is what Olga said when she infodumped.The new arc is teasing about what kind of -timeline- resulted from Chaldea's actions, so it means PHH is completely unknown and new from previous Fate works.
>>569195503I think you're forgetting the "everything before the Lostbelt's creation is bullshit made up retroactively" part. We know for sure the FGO timeline is a Lostbelt, so anything before 2004 is horseshit Billy could've just written up post-hoc to make his new timeline make sense.
What’s the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?
>>569196820Not related to what is being discussed. You still refuse to acknowledge the part where what's being framed as positive is humanity accepting that they're just baton holders.Focusing on the how doesn't change the theme and message which is dogshit in the 10 years old universe it's set in.
>>569197097>He constructed a setting that enables MarisburyAnimusphere's presence in the Grail War and overwrote history. This is the only thing Olga said about what his father did. In fact, Cu confirms that the Servants roster didn't change between one and the other. We have shit like Darius Rider in the memories of Cu, instead of Memedusa.
>>56919716350,000 yen for 1 hour with raw sex and nakadashi
>>569197038See >>569197097Lostbelts have no past. Skadi was never alive during Ragnarok and Godjuna never actually did what he remembers doing. The 7 ones we visited were all created in 2017. The Lostbelts were not necessarily created at the point of inflection. In fact, we know for a fact none of the main 7 were, because that makes no sense. That's what Kirsch pointed out since they all grossly overshot the time limit for pruning by the time the trees appeared. Morganellico straight up tells Mashu she realized already that her time was created retroactively from a future point. Marisbilly could've created the Lostbelt at any point and retroactively made it so he was part of a 2004 grail War where the Grail worked and fiddled with any other details he needed. There's no guarantee that the ONLY thing different was the 2004 war, and there's several reasons to believe that mustn't be the case.
>>569197347>Not related to what is being discussed.It is precisely what is being discussed. How could it not be?
>>569197956The seven lostbelts of Maris Creation are different from real lostbelts which do happen. Shimosa is a real Lostbelt, Musashi's timeline is too. Do you understand the difference?Anyway, you're still wrong, because Olga just said Marisbilly needed to rewrite the thing to be able to participate. Loli Vinci doubles it down saying Marisbilly would be locked from joining in as was in 2004 which is VERY different from him giving up his spot to Gartorade as he did in Case Files because the Grail is tainted.FSN is just another side branch.
This whole "pass the baton" sthick is dumb and retarded because it's treating a vague and abstract concept as something literal and concrete for the sake of "themes and such".
>>569197956>where the Grail worked and fiddledIF this was a point, it would have been mentioned in the Singularity. Rather it never got mentioned. I think that's why Logress exists and why FGO is fucked over because Saber (who is a big retard) won and created a Singularity she was never a king and a fake fanfic version of her did. That's what started derailing things again, and why the trailer person is mocking them for what they did.
>>569198774>>569197956First Order hints that Caster was Solomon, but was weaker (only one ring). He was the runner-up. Saber won and grabs the Grail vs the LB0 result.The result is still history changed, singularity, and Beast Merlin to fully develop after losing Chaldea and his Artoria.
>>569197038>the year starting point of the deviance would be the year of the first grail war because he would have wiped it out.Between LB5 and 6, we have pretty definite confirmation that the "point of divergence" is bullshit. Tonellico straight up says so and calls her "present" is a retroactive fabrication even at a point thousands of years PAST the supposed point of divergence back during Velver's arrival. That's the realization that pisses off Ivan and the rest in the finale, none of them come from" timelines that became doomed", they're all modern fabrications that were designed to be doomed from the beginning and worked backwards from there. None of those worlds are more than a few years old in reality, their past was made up retroactively.If the FGO timeline is a Lostbelt, then anything observed inside it is 0% reliable as to how the true timeline should look.>>569198241>The seven lostbelts of Maris Creation are different from real lostbelts which do happenCompletely irrelevant because we know for a fact Singularity X is artificial.>>569198774>IF this was a point, it would have been mentioned in the Singularity.Why?>I think that's why Logress exists and why FGO is fucked over because Saber (who is a big retard) won and created a Singularity she was never a king and a fake fanfic version of her did. That's what started derailing things again, and why the trailer person is mocking them for what they did.I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
>>569199356>Why?Why not? None of them mention the Grail was tainted or that was the 5th war. Tri-Hermes doesn't mention it either and records shit like Lostbelt and Singularity results.It's because there was just one war. And Marisbilly didn't have a spot there. Olga said he modified to be able to participate not to make his wish viable. Those are two completely different things. He can't modify the contents of the Grail, or he wouldn't have given up his spot in Case Files to the Caster's Master Arab blond guy.
>>569198774>IF this was a point, it would have been mentioned in the Singularity.Not only do I not see why, nobody would've been able to tell except for Maris and maybe the clairvoyants like Goetia, who didn't particularly give a shit abut the specifics anyway. And Holmes, because he's cheating, but also he had no reason to go into those details because they didn't matter to anything going on at the time.
>>569196527Still a woman. We already know all the Camelot characters are the same gender in the Proto universe except for Arthur, Mordred (because clone), and Merlin (because VA jokes).
>>569199842There were infodumping details about it, and they never said it was the fifth grail war. Anon, you understand Nasu never said it was? In fact, the lack of HEARTLESS PRESENCE in the very auction that Moneybills dispatched him to get shit to spy on Fuyuki previous war in FGO indicates there was no previous wars in Fuyuki. Heartless also gets namedropped by Prelatti fucking them up in Strange Fake when tried to approach Fuyuki so they going there to sniff around for Moneybills happens in other places where there is a 5th.
>trailer alluded to the unknown world created by them because of restoring "PHH">NOO is totally not unknownFSNfags are just angry they are a branch? Extrafags never got pissy over that.
Not sure why it matters if FSN isn't the main branch. It changes nothing? Branches are still allowed to continue unless they get too wild.
>>569199841>None of them mention the Grail was tainted or that was the 5th war. Tri-Hermes doesn't mention it either and records shit like Lostbelt and Singularity results.So what?None of these details matter to anyone at the time. They still don't really matter to anyone, really, they're purely academic.>He can't modify the contents of the GrailWhy the hell not?It is infinitely easier to believe he modified the timeline into that than anything else. We were not told at all why the actual 2004 war was a no-go for him from FGO's perspective, and we know exactly why the 2004 war was a no-go in the FSN timeline. Believing that both are the same is the easiest conclusion in the world, far more than "There was some reason he couldn't participate in 2004 in this timeline in which the Grail War somehow happens for the first time now and is conveniently not tainted even though we know he was active and alive at the time". The alternative is that in the FGO timeline, "a healthy and living Marisbilly had to miss a viable Grail War because of some unspecified reason despite this being his one shot at completing his life's work, so he had to create a pocket reality where that one unspecified reason was different". This is a hell of a bigger stretch than just "the actual timeline is just FSN's, the 2004 grail was a no-go because it was tainted, so he gave it up in the exact same way and for the exact same reason he does in FSN".
Is there any hope of Camazotz being released in this new arc or am I coping?
>>569199308There's absolutely 0 chance Solomon ever loses to Saber, even Saber Alter. In-fact he probably beat Saber in his war.
>>569199842Anon, breathe deeply and stay with me. If the Grail was tainted and Marisbills needed to create a lostbelt to use it, why didn't he do it in Case Files? His resources are set by his ancestor Solomon, so he is good to go. Instead he gives up because the Grail is tainted.Why didn't Olga, who was explaining the origin of Singularity X and Lostbelt 0, didn't say that? Instead of only saying that the Lostbelt allowed her dad to join in. Why not call it the 5th war, as always, instead of the war in 2004? It's like Nasu is trying to be vague about Fuyuki and what truly happened and what is the result of restoring it? The new arc trailer mocks us for actually not knowing shit about what we saved. If it was FSN, why would it framed it like that?
>>569200775>There's absolutely 0 chance Solomon ever loses to Saber,He can if his Master is an idiot. Remember Solomeme is "sure Master, I'll kill myself" type of guy. He's also lacking motivation. Marisbilly knew how to handle him.The point is that those are contrasted, and Solomon has a different number of rings.
>>569199841>None of them mention the Grail was tainted or that was the 5th war.None of them mention why he didn't join the actual war at all. There's no reason to rule any reason, and certainly not the most obvious one. >He can't modify the contents of the GrailNow you're just creating absolutely absurd constraints out of thin air. He can modify the timeline to remove Constraint X but not Constraint Y? Why? If it's possible to create a different version of the Mahabharata where Arjuna became Kirby and ate all the gods, ensuring Angra Mainyu didn't get mixed in the stew during the mid 20th century certainly seems infinitely more doable.
>>569200997Solomon isn't summoned with rings to begin with. The one he had is the one handed to him by Marisbury.
>>569200636You're saying...that the moment to explain the origin of the thing and Marisbilly motivation...and didn't happen because "wasn't important." What's the point of doing it. Olga already said why her father did it. Heartless, again stressing, the person Moneybills hires to check out the previous war in Fuyuki is unemployed by him in FGO before this. Because there isn't a previous war. Tri-hermes would have a record of it.
>>569200637Considering it's all about Beast Hunting™, he has a small chanceThough how long we gotta wait still is up in the air
>>569201174>Solomon isn't summoned with rings to begin withWhat is this stupidity? He only loses one according to his legend, so he should have 9 as a record.Solomeme isn't like Memeturia who is taken fresh from her time, he's a Proper Heroic Spirit. Something happened (probably his Master being stupid) who fucked him over in one war.
>>569201174Roman didn't have rings because he became human. The rings that came with Servant would have gone poofed because he was flesh and blood. You know how even having a physical form makes Gil naked but he's still a Servant unlike Roman, so he has access to his Gate.Why wouldn't Solomon come with his rings?
>>569201501That Solomon isn't summoned with the rings is common knowledge, everyone knows this. He sent one into the future and consigned the 9 others back to God along with himself, i.e. they stayed on his real body inside Ars Nova until Goetia reawakened and claimed them. The rings are always extant, they have no copies. It's like telling me Galahad is summoned with the Holy Grail he sent to Heaven. Things returned to God are not part of summoning.
>>569201952>That Solomon isn't summoned with the rings is common knowledge, everyone knows this.Citation needed. They are part of his legend and Servant kit...so he has them?
>>569201867Why doesn't he have his own set in his hands when he renounces his wish in front of Goetia then? I swear, some of you people just make shit up on the fly to fit some headcanon. Can't believe I'd ever hear the interpretation that Solomon is summoned with the rings here of all places.
>>569201952>until Goetia reawakened and claimed them.Goetia doesn't matter. Solomon is a HEROIC SPIRIT. He's a fucking record. What happens to his body is unimportant because humanity imagines his records with rings, that's why is on his Servant fucking skill.
>>569202184>Why doesn't he have his own set in his hands when he renounces his wish in front of Goetia then?Actually, he does in the movie. Anyway, I think to be sure he had to reunite the original set. You know Gil's shit is just a record and not real right? That's why it can be destroyed and it won't really affect next Gil summon. Like how Deermud spear didn't get fucked forever. But he did have his rings? Even in his flashback of Fuyuki.The question is more why one Solomon has one ring and the other more than one apparently?
>>569200838>If the Grail was tainted and Marisbills needed to create a lostbelt to use it, why didn't he do it in Case Files?This is like asking why George McFly is a loser in one timeline and not in the other. Because one is changed and the other one isn't. If the Case Files timeline even exists to begin with, it's because everything happens as in FSN. Marisbilly finds out the 5th war is a no-go. So he pulls his shit and ends up in a new timeline.The only unanswered question is what happens in some timelines that makes Maribsilly NOT do his shit, thus letting Case Files proceed as usual with him still in it. THAT is unknown, but it's a far more plausible idea than "it's possible to create two different flavors of a an ancient war between aliens fourteen millennia ago, but unsplooging the Grail is completely impossible don't ask why". That's the kind of ridiculous constraint that just seems made up to win an argument, not because it makes any sense.
>>569202682>If the Case Files timeline even exists to begin with, it's because everything happens as in FSN.Case Files is set before FSN until...the last volume fight? Are you all right bro? I don't think you get FSN isn't PHH. PHH is meant to be the unknown and it's the new arc focus not just exploring the past but questioning what they brought into the world.
>>569202682>Because one is changed and the other one isn't.One is changed because of someone else's actions, here is Marisbilly's actions. Olga wonders what would her father do in a timeline where there Holy Grail isn't tainted, because learning this made him depressed hikki like... years before Case Files? When Olga was four.
>>569050002My fucking HEROES
>>569201282>You're saying...that the moment to explain the origin of the thing and Marisbilly motivation...and didn't happen because "wasn't important."The only information anybody in FGO gave a flying shit about was that the 2004 war was a no-go. The specifics matter to absolutely nobody, and still don't. The only thing we're told is that he created a timeline where it was possible to get the grail, which is the only important thing.>Heartless, again stressing, the person Moneybills hires to check out the previous war in Fuyuki is unemployed by him in FGO before this.Of course he is. This is a timeline Marisbilly created. Why the hell would he need to employ him in this timeline TOO? To get information he already had from his original timeline? Every last thing we see happening in FGO is in a world Marisbilly made up, in which the reason for hiring him would not even exist and all information he needed was already in his power, cause he made this shit up himself.
>>569202876>>569203091>Case Files is set before FSN until...the last volume fight? Are you all right bro?See >>569197956Also can you... stop doing this... text version of uptalking? it just makes you read like a pretentious ass.
>You do not know of the completed world.>You do not understand what have you done. >You cannot see where you are.It's not FSN, Extra, or anything. It's a completely new setting they created and fucked shit up. This is about the consequences of destroying LB0 and restoring PHH.Is it possible that PHH would purge Extra, FSN, and other branches? It couldn't as long as Goetia and Maris had it stalemated it.
>>569203618Why are you bringing up Skadi vs actual factual Nasu timeline and lore dump. Are you stupid? We have, without speculation stated that Marisbilly modified Fuyuki 2004 counts to participate in the war, your fanfiction it was to 'cleanse' the Grail remains a fanfiction until confirmation.
>>569193791Lev get off the computer and go back to the plot you already lost the romanibowl twice
>>569193321Tokiomi wanted to fuck him over in the long run. Gil seems to value every form of sincerity over fear and lies
>>569203735>Is it possible that PHH would purge Extra, FSN, and other branches?I can see this happening because, before this, there was never -one- Proper Human History. Parallel Worlds and Possibilities. But the language of "complete world" and Proper Human History being one restored timeline means the rest are not part of it. Snipping Snip.
>>569172492Charlie is genki (genki), Richi is genki (crazy warmonger) they fit different niches despite the anime trying to gaslight the viewer that he's a maniac pixie boyfriend for some even when the collab heavily empathizing his cruaaazy side
>Speaking of PHH as if it's a single timelineAs much as /fgog/ likes to shit on Nasu's cosmology (which is very meh) it turns out you fags are a bunch of brainlets that can't even understand it.
>>569193321I mean Tokiomi was a damn snake who was planning on betraying him eventually.
>>569186203love him and saw it coming if sorts...
>>569204395>>569203735What if overcoming all those Beasts is a proof that Timeline is the Proper History, so other timelines get the axe because they didn't finish the complete score? That's why in order to save the other timelines, they need to remain unstable forever with Beasts, so Chaldea is necessary. It's just a possibility.
>>569204531Don't ask /fgog/ or BL, the so called TRUE fatefags, to explain the kaleidoscope to (you).
>>569204531I mean, it was never used outside FGO. Even with OC3 getting non-scrapped, it was never referred as PHH or the Last Encore/Extella worlds never got called PHH."Complete world". "Proper Human History." Seem to imply a Highlander prune. The trailer girl is mocking that we have no fucking clue what we did and what we caused by restoring (or maybe creating) Proper Human History.
>>569204727See >>569204890>>569204628Kaleidoscope is "Parallel World." But we have "COMPLETE world" now. We did some fuckery by beating millions of beasts maybe. Because that never happened before. We basically proved "this" timeline is the hyper winner who survived 100000 Beasts. While others never did.Noah said there's a "Future Chaldea" if there is one this means that singularities are a thing to keep that timeline from being a complete world maybe.
One possibility is that in one timeline, for reasons unknown, the Einzberns didn't get round to doing the war until 200 years after they originally did, which would've necessitated some weird fucking divergences regarding the birth of Justeaze who absolutely HAS to be created first for this to work at all, and also in this timeline they skipped all the awkward "figuring out how this shit works" rounds 1 and 2 and just started from the get go with the whole basic system figured out, but for some as-yet unknown reason, a Clock Tower Lord who was alive and well at the time couldn't participate despite this being the most pivotal turn of his entire lineage's thousand-year history. Also, in this world, Marisbilly starts creating Mashu in 2000 with the explicit purpose of her eventually turning into a Demi Servant despite the fact that no Grail War had ever happened until then and, as we established, Marisbilly hadn't hired anyone to spy on the war in this timeline yet knew how this all worked regardless.The other is that the Grail didn't work for the same it doesn't in the regular timeline, so Marisbilly decided to create his own timeline with blackjack and hookers and knew a bunch of things he clearly shouldn't in this timeline because he brought this knowledge from the other one.
>>569205120Anon the nasuverse has always worked on everything is canon/infinite timelines and some of them get pruned, I'm sure not even Nasu cares this much.
Oh yeahDid somebody translate the new trailer?
man, if only fgo looked like this..
>>569205272Zolgen was in london circa XIX, that's when Gaytia snatched him for Barbatos, so it's plausible that the Einzberns couldn't do the ritual until he got aboard. He moved to Japan as Makiri Zouken in FSN, but here he was still Zolgen in London.
>>569205434He doesn't even look like Emiya anymore.
>>569205434weird fake gil
>>569205338The existence of many "parallel worlds" was only validated by Zelretch, before there wasn't a belief that humans have many choices so weren't many and this is explained in the mats of tsurire.If now there's a belief shared you only need the best complete world who passed the scores? Then everything else gets pruned. That's why the trailer girl is tuting us about being fucked ups.
>>569205272Justeaze could have just be made later, for whatever reason. Zolgen was in the Clock Tower, London during the late 1800s, while he had moved to Japan a good century before that in FSN. London Singularity began because Barbatos took over him. Remember that I and VII are both a weird ourborous of cause and effect.
>>569205272>Also, in this world, Marisbilly starts creating Mashu in 2000 with the explicit purpose of her eventually turning into a Demi Servant despite the fact that no Grail War had ever happened until then and, as we established, Marisbilly hadn't hired anyone to spy on the war in this timeline yet knew how this all worked regardless.Solomon is the master summoner. The summoning part of the Grail War comes from Zouken. And Marisbilly seems to already master third magic to create Olga because he's his descendant.It's not so weird he gets information of the Einzberns' project and wants to be part of it, but he's banned. That's pretty much lines up with them being jealous and controlling during the first wars (they didn't want to be outstaged by outside mages). While in FSN/case files, Marisbilly had the invitation and he passed it over because he wasn't interest. That inviting outside mages came later.
There is no reason whatsoever to prune branches that can sustain themselves. That's the one detail people stubbornly keep stridently refusing to accept despite we getting numerous examples that, so long as a timeline can be supported by its population, they remain.We were told in OC3 that the colossal fuckup of the AIs which made it permanently impossible for that branch to ever rejoin the normal FSN-like timeline still isn't the reason it was gonna get pruned. It was humanity was strangling itself to avoid giving birth. Having avoided that, the timeline would continue (likely supported by the Archetype, rather than humanity).In LB6, we are told it's not humanity's near eradication that got that world pruned, but rather that the fairies are fucked. We are told explicitly the fairies can support their own reality (if they don't get wiped out) which is why the evacuation plan seemed feasible.Timelines get pruned if a dead end is inevitable, either because of an obvious immediate cause of death, or a degree of stagnation that guarantees death on a 100-year time-span. LB3 was given as an example of a timeline where everything seemed stable, but Qin had eviscerated all defense mechanisms against outside interference and replaced it with a ridiculous massive bojangle that something like Velver would've run through without blinking. The entire point is that the rest of the versions of humanity are not going to pick up the slack to support a timeline where humanity is wiped out, not that viable timelines get wiped out for being funky.
>>569205434>flashy lights slopNo thank you
>>569205272Marisbilly didn't hire Heartless because he has those fuck you eyes himself. Also the concept of the "holy grail" and wish granter is a beast vi shit super old, it's not exclusive to fuyuki. Fuyuki isn't the first one.Simply put some stuff changed...Not weirder than the moon growning around a super alien computer (only in some timelines!).
>>569205434I'll taker sprite-kun over the same models reusing 3/4 of the assets.
>>569205434No thanks, Hoyoverse's designs are very boring, especially the guys
>>569206737>There is no reason whatsoever to prune branches that can sustain themselves.That's only because each world is a "Possibility." But the trailer cements the "Complete world." Which completely contradicts the concept of parallel worlds and possibilities, and the phrasing makes it seem as if *we* are responsible for establishing it. This means possibilities are no longer needed. Nasu did say that the amount of parallel worlds expanded due to Zelretch, it's not been this way before, so the seats allowed were narrower. Now an unprecedented thing happened probably, that's why the uncertain consequences awaits us.
>>569207248thats not what i would call jester faggot gil but i guess you frequent a lot of exotic gay bars then
>>569207248>there's not even an industry plant yaoi this region, so they just reheated renheng nachos and in the process made them bland as fuckOh fate fujobait I know you'd never do that to me
>>569206617I forgot Olga was made with third magic. No wonder Moneybill passed on that shit. He wanted the wish maker not the Heavens Feel.
>>569205272One of Astromancy skills is Divination, so Marisbilly has some future sight and precognition (Lev does, and Marisbilly bought like millions of mystic eyes from the train auction) would explain how he lines up his plan.Holy Grails existed before, even before Justaze in FSN made herself a Great Grail. Fuyuki's only 'special' because of the hole to the Root to recover the Third Magic, but Marisbilly, who literally created Olga with Third Magic already, doesn't give a single shit about that. So he would know he has a wish maker ready to go soon to start oiling up things.Most likely the Grail got created a few decades before, remember it takes years to fill it to summon Servants.
>Still the evilest character in the frachiseHow did she do it?
>>569207028>Also the concept of the "holy grail" and wish granter is a beast vi shit super old, it's not exclusive to fuyuki.The Grail War only started having that name with the second one after they needed a pitch to bullshit other mages into participating. It's all utter horseshit they made up using that precise myth in-universe after they realized they needed better marketing than "Come join a death game we mostly sorta rigged! No refunds!". Among the contrivances included in the 2004-was-the-first-war version is that they conveniently skipped the whole trial and error.Also, it's just super convenient that all these contrivances JUST combined to have the war happen at the perfect time for Marisbilly to be an experienced Lord with the rank needed to claim the spot... but he still somehow couldn't join. Like, the 2004 date is just super good for him specifically, almost like he just wrote in the only one he cared about in his version of the timeline.
>>569208320>with the second oneWasn't it the third one? Either way, it's not strange for Nasu to handwave some unexplained changes because he could. Maybe they decided not to make the "first one" count, and 2004 is the first one officially. That would explain why they wouldn't risk for a literal Lord like Marisbilly to participate since they are warier then, while he had allowance to go if he pleased in FSN (but he gave it to that blond medea beater) because they started lose hope after the Third being a total fucking disaster.>it's just super convenient It lines up in one timeline. It's not convenient, it's just the setting and how it works. It's not as if Fuyuki is a foundational event, it's literally irrelevant. What was fucking up history was the creation of Maris Chaldeas and Goetia singularities resulted from LB0, not changing something as irrelevant as the Einzern's pet project.There's no reason for Marisbilly not to crash the war in all timelines if he could always handwave the taint. That seemed like the deal breaker.
>>569207478Obviously the fate collab characters are exempted (Gil being tacky as shit even there is a charm point of his imo) since despite his horrid tendencies to go nuts with ribbons and sameface/body position, Takeuchi is really great at making simple but distinct designs for guysHoyo guys just blend together for me since most rarely ever look a age above 30 or are beefier than your standard ikemen
>>569208320>Also, it's just super convenient that all these contrivances JUST combined to have the war happen at the perfect time for Marisbilly to be an experienced Lord with the rank needed to claim the spot... but he still somehow couldn't joinHe wasn't allowed to join was the wording. Specificially. You forget that the first Lord allowed to join was Kayness, and only after the Einzbern hired a Mage Killer who specialized in targeting them. By the 5th, they were demoralized, so was free to go. This means their attitude in FGO War was different from FSN on default, that the incidents that demoralized them hadn't transpired yet. Event displacement do happen. Look how Nasu wants us to think David Bluebook is Chaldeas Daybit (no alien stuff) despite being born 100 years after Daybit.
I dont even know what they are arguing anymore
kama loves me and guda is the cuck
>white>brownyou are juice with no culture or blood
>>569209093>Wasn't it the third one?They went from 3 to 7 after the first one, and only came up with the Command Spells after the 2nd one. Also they were forced to have an Executor as overseer after that one turned into an impossible clusterfuck. It wasn't until the third that the system started looking recognizable.>That would explain why they wouldn't risk for a literal Lord like Marisbilly to participate since they are warier then, while he had allowance to go if he pleased in FSNYou got the progression is backwards. The event was an unknown factor at first and it only became progressively more of an obvious death trap as it went on. They strong-armed an Overseer after the 2nd, a Lord representative after the 3rd, and the idea that they'd just be perfectly chill in the 5th is hilarious because this one happened ahead of schedule after the previous one had gotten a Clock Tower Lord killed. The 5th War was the absolute worst from a PR perspective going in considering how the last one had very publicly ended with a whole chunk of city burning down and at least two high-profile mages dead for exactly 0 benefits to anyone.>>569209610>He wasn't allowed to join was the wording. Specificially.Don't get particular about vocabulary you can't read. It's "he couldn't". We don't know why. "Allowed" is an entirely different kind of worms. We are also told by Da Vinci in that very same line that this was retroactive: Singularity X was created as an alternate past from Marisbilly's perspective, who retconned it as "a grail war where I did join". The actual chronological creation of that timeline is at some point after 2004.
I'm so ready
Godbros...
>>569214584let's go bitchlet's be happy
>>569209721tribalism
>>569208293>evilestbeing evil in fate is a memejust watch Gil
>the last chapter servant
>>569215203There is no consensus among all writers about Gil
>>569214584I bet the plot will be retarded
>>569214872I don't know what this says but I'm assuming it's a deep conversation about Nito's unparalleled sex appeal
>>569215559it will be saved by cute girls
>>569214584These releases should be on weekends
>>569215629
>>569215971fate loves to lose engagement on social media
>>569216067so it really was about Nito's raw sexual magnetism. As expected of our pharaoh.
>>569215559ordeal call was
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