"I should have built a fort" editionThe Wheel has turned once againDominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya>Multiplayer guide/game hosting services>Hinaserver https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452https://hinaserver.net>Blitzserverhttps://blitzserver.net(Dom 6)https://beta.blitzserver.net/games>Llamaserver:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Modhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing>other asynchronous strategy gamesSolium Infernum.Previous Pantokrator>>568755950
First for best hero
>>569054072Has there been any games of Solium Infernum? If anyone has played a MP game how much of a difference does playing against humans feel?
I know plenty of people have thought about using this shitter bird to do suicide magic phase firestorm attacks but has anybody ever actually used it?
Holy dead
>>569055609Yeah, we're on our 5th MP game now.>how much of a difference does playing against humans feelI wouldn't know since I never played out a full game vs the AI, but it's tense and takes a lot of planning all the way to the last turn.
>>569055609We're just a few turns away from finishing a game unless there's many more surprises. I fear the whore stole the game along with my snake.Stay tuned and hop into the next one.>how much of a difference playing with humansIt's a game about backstabbing. You can't really make pacts with the AI.You can't really make pacts with players either because you know that shit ain't holding up past the first chance either of you get to shove a ritual up each other's ass, but it's the intention what counts. Also the shittalking.The AI does a much better job at feeling like it knows how to play the game than Dominion's AI does but ultimately it's also rather braindead. The game is just a lot tighter and most decisions carry some weight and impact, so there's less room for it to do overly stupid stuff. But it can't really play long term or theorycraft about what someone might be trying to do.MP recommended, it's fun
>>569055609It's great
>>569058223You can only do it in your dominion
I came
>>569063780Good job anon
I humbly ask for that picture of the nazi rally with the soldiers replaced with devils
>>569060896So in the beta is defence of pandemonium easier
>>569068596As things are right now, if we weren't playing the beta, even after losing the Gorgon titan I could still have capture Pandemonium with the giant walking castle and my native legion.Right now there's an opposing beefed up legion supporting the city. I could still win, but it'd take quite long. Not sure I can get it done before the game ends.Definitely harder than before, as long as someone is willing to help defend it.
>>569069304Well shitBetter or worse overall than vanilla?
WH Redux Naggarond! FU!
>>569070791It's not a major expansion, just a patch. Couple small balance things, couple more things in the bazaar.Only three big changes have struck out to me:>rift event2 contiguous hexes turn into a ravine. Legions on top don't instantly die but they can get a lot of damage. Honestly not the strongest thing, but it's fun, and a nice reason not to bunch legions up by default.>slag tokensTrash that accumulates in your vault if you gather tribute with negative tribute quality. Barely noticeable to be honest. The vault is large enough and you can throw slag in for free whenever you buy something, so it's only a problem if you try to mass gather your way from an empty vault to a full one.>non-excommunicated legions automatically defend PandemoniumThe only actually powerful change. Pandemonium left alone is still easy to slap around, but just one or two supporting legions can really make it hard to capture the city.I like it, good patch so far. No idea why the fuck they're taking so long to release it properly, though. Guess they're working on balance or something
Sloop buffed Ermor too hard
Do immortal mages lose their globals if they die to a non soul slayI assume yes?
>>569077949Yes since it actually kills em
What can LA Atlantis do with their land mages
>>569080358Cherish them
>>569080358Own tents
>>569080358Rituals, forging, and site searching
>>569063716>>569060896>>569059247Great I will have to jump in the next one then. Thanks.
>>569084017Yeah but what can I do with w1d1
>>569085112Lab monkey until you research frozen heart. Then they can do that.
if you do call of the wild, wind, etc on your own fort under siege, it puts the summons inside rather than fighting the siegers right?
>>569054072I played Man a lot as a noob and I feel bad because they seem kinda annoying to deal with in both ages they appear even though I definitely didn't play them because I thought they were meta. In fact everyone always called them mid but I'm sure they're much better now that their cav is sacred and their unicorns are their own super charged unit too
>>569090317Heavy cav is amazing
>>569090317MA Man got an absolutely wild glow up going from 5 to 6, along with all nations with great heavy/sacred cav (MA Marignon, MA Ulm, etc)One of those nations now you just recruit as many as you can each turn, put them in a line set to 'attack read', and click on someone. If that somehow gets countered, start using your nations unique communion (songs) and blow anyone else away with poison spam. Not a bad idea to take PR5 as a bless because it's very easy to cast Breath of the Dragon, Foul Vapours, etc.
>>569085112Sometimes it's nice to hand out death gems and get a lot of casts of horde of skellies right at the start of battle.
>>569096115I'll try that
Last call for tendies on my vanilla MA gamehttps://hinaserver.net/game/46https://hinaserver.net/game/46https://hinaserver.net/game/46Submissions close June 3, game starts June 4 at 1200 UTC
>>569098648Thanks anon
Sloop has erred with Ermor
>>569096115>horde of skellies nerfed in my slop modanon... I...
>>569102501>>569100447Sloop has gone mad!
>>569102501What did it nerf undead?
>>569111609I thought too many of the factions had heavy death access. Didn't want it to become a sausage fest of skelly spam. So I nerfed normal horde of skellies, and gave each undead faction their own buffed version.Whereas death factions that don't have much of an undead theme (EG dark elves) got death spells more in line with their theme (EG evocations)
>>569055609One criticism is that unless your early game is super shit it doesnt really matter at all and the random shit at the end decides everything.
>>569098648>vanillaIn this house sloop is a hero end of story>>569085112ghost grip is good
Good bye AI lanka
>>569113765Oh I forgot frighten spam too
>>569114473An era has ended
Corpse Construct
>>569130890About to start m a LA game as Agatha and I can’t wait to lose while I try to suicide bomber my way through chaff.
>>569131771Best of luck
>>569113765Don't forget dust to dust
Is Caelum still just storm->stormpower->t-strike?
>>569141042And elementals!
>>569141042THEIR NATIONAL SUMMONS ARE FUCKING BADASS TOO
>>569142528Are the unit summons good?
>>569147069Nah their commanders are tho
Gnight domg
>>569151412Slant or Bruce?
If I have Regen bless and a sacred thug casting personal regen, what will happen? do I get +20% regen?
>>569153675Regen from different sources stack yes.So you can stack bless + ring of regen + regen spell buff + innate regen on chassis (like a troll). Bless + ring of regen = 20% regenRegen spell buffs don't stack with themselves though, you can't do personal regen + army regen for example
Would Stygian Skin bless stack with innate invulnerability like for example Athel Lorens Wild Riders?
>>569158898Nope. Invulnerability is a form of protection. So it doesn’t stack unless it says +10 or something similar.
Plot twist of the game, Murmur surges ahead like 180 points after winning three duels in the same turn with the exact same strategy and sets himself at the front two turns before the endFucking nice
>>569159621Baller Murmur move. Fuck I need to go back and relearn the strats for Solium Infernum.
>>569092138>great heavy/sacred cav (MA Marignon, MA Ulm, etc)How is that a glow-up? They now die to the first MR-check spell (OK, Ulmites did that anyway, but now even more so). MA Man is so strong precisely because the unicorns don't do that.
>>569163757Because you can slam 100 Chalices/Black Knights into your neighbor well before they could ever even think of casting Rigor Mortis.Yeah it falls off by midgame, but by that point you should have already taken all the required thrones. Whose going to stop your murder line?
>>569163757>They now die to the first MR-check spellThey used to do that anyway. Now they take 2 mr spells to kill instead of 1 at the very least.
Rejoice! For Naggarond has graced us with a turn
>>569159621I may have thrown this one by not just paying Murmur the tribute, don't know what I was thinking. Very much my bad.
>>569163757They're so fast and murder happy there arent many checks to be had. Take an MR bless and cast anti magic every fight gg. MA Man is fucking crazy strong
>>569176815>>569159621I have perfected the dueling technique by giving my praetor a steel katana folded 1000 times If you didnt know: you can swap dueling moves mid duel. I had skulls and snake moves only but swapped snake out for an orb move as a surprise
>>569182156Wut
>>569185063When you have a manuscript available and charisma 4, you can swap out a praetor's dueling move for the manuscript you have in your inventory. Charisma 4 allows you to do it to any type instead of the one it currently is (snake,skull,orb)
>>569187372>>569185063When the duel starts (when you bribe and choose the move) let's say you select the move in slot 2 and the same turn invoke that manuscript on slot 2, it will replace the slot 2 move with the new one during the duel.The orb move in this image used to be a snake move. I bought this praetor specifically because it only had two slots and they were both skulls and snakes so I could use this orb card as a mind game
>>569188064That's kinda crazy You learn new shit every day
>>569188617It didnt even matter in this case since I won every bribe and had a higher level praetor but it could have.
>>569189103Gj skeleman
Das rite ligga
How many soulless would a level 3 priest have to raise per turn before you would consider it a worthy use of a turn?
>>569194572Depends if my holy 3 has anything better to do, and if I get recruitable holy 3s.24 could be ok if I have army wide buffs and I jut need bodies in front of mages
>>569194874>army wide buffsNewbie here, how would you buff a soulless? I can see skeletons and ghouls being useful but soulless look completely useless to me. I've also read about the HP rout thing... wouldn't large masses of soulless be counterproductive? They've got lots of HP
>>569198102Fog Warriors or Army of lead/gold.Elemental resists to absorb evocations
>>569198102Fog warriors + army of lead but really their only use is evo bait
>>569198102For some battle strats you just need a fight to go long enough for you to win.Things like fear spam and wailing winds, or foul vapors or rigor mortis just need a bunch of hp in front of your real troops/mages to survive long enough
>>569194572soulless aren't even that bad anymore with sloops now that they get a second attack for more harass penalty desu. more hp than longdead means they sit there for longer with protection buffs which is really all undead are meant to do anyway
>>569201040Shame
>>569194572If you're a giant nation it's already worth it, Jotunn soulless are actually kinda scary
>>569208715Should I invest in reanimation?
>>569210080If you can consistently get undead priests, sure
>>569194572depends what youre using them for. Putting them at the back of your army as an HP anchor is aite
>>569194572Depends what kind they are
Rigor Mortis
>>569214803Also how much money they cost
>>569221364More than you can afford
/domg/ is killy bless or durable bless more important for EA non-giant/elf nations.
>>569229151I'd say durable since humie troops don't hit hard
>>569229151itdependsAffordable anyfort sacreds like jaguar warriors can go full murdermode, but something like Warriors of the Five Elements really appreciate something to help them die a bit less quickly.There's also the rare offensive defense bless known as Unbearable Splendor
NOOOO I THREW THE GAME I DIDNT PUT THE SCHEME FIRST. THAT WAS 35 PRESTIGE I COULD HAVE GOTTEN. I completed the scheme the same turn I did it but didnt put it before when I did it lol
>>569231843Lel
>>569234525The turn order thing in this game is such dogshit I am much more appreciative of turns simultaneously resolving in dominions after playing this.
>>569235078Fair
Any new games
New nation soon
Summon Ancestors
OK WH Redux fucking Nagga! is time up! you fucker didnt even do a double after letting us wait 48h and now everyone else did the turn within hours and you alone drag us to 24h again. If you are ever last again, or not do a double, I will attack you!
>>569243789would that it were true...
Lucid is kill
>>569251921Back up
enter_sandman startin to look pretty turgid.Too bad for all you guys that I've already won it
Is the slowing weapon bless just BS, or can it actually be helpful? On Sacred Cav for example, edging up the high Def value even a bit more and maybe, through slowing, get your own units to strike first?
>>569256317I think it's situationally good for some nations. Not the worst weapons bless. Sacred cav would be a good choice for it, provided you don't need them to actually hit harder with those bless points. I feel like it messes up giants the most, since they already struggle with attack density and sometimes poor attack values.Could be interesting on sacred archers, causing enemy lines to break up before meeting your line, but I haven't tested that at all, and usually archer blesses underwhelm.Not the best, not the worst
>>569256848do you know what it means that slowed units "strike half as often" do they loose a attack every other round?
>>569257856>do they loose a attack every other round?Thats what I think it is yeah.
>>569258539that might actually be pretty strong
>>569258745The main problem with it, other than being an awkward price for an incarnate, is that you need to break through defense to get a hit, and the enemy gets an mr roll to resist it too. So it can be a bit inconsistent to apply against enemy elites.
>>569259082ohhhh, yeah, good point! might work well only against PD or other chaff where one wouldnt need it anyways...hmm maybe blood surge for 1 less point is better, though it also is a kill more (when you win anyways) bless in a way
love finding out shitty esoteric mechanics in dominions like how homesickness prevents all forms of regeneration. thought he could thug out a throne but nope, just chipped to death
>>569231843>Godlike play into a godlike fumbleLegit Demon Lord of Hell roleplay.
>>569251921>watching the tourney series>entire game revolves around NAP>NAP breaks are worse than Colossal Hitler Head
How do you expand in the first five turns in LA without an awake expander? I tried Ulm, Erytheia, and Pangaea, and on all of them it's a 50/50 whether I just get shit on by heavy cav when trying to take the cap circle unless I spend the first three turns recruiting. If I do that though I end up with like 8 provinces by turn 12. Once i have the first couple of provinces and have more resources I can get by, but unless I get a lucky spawn (lmao) those first ones are such a pain in the ass
>>5692697012 of those nations are just bad at expanding and probably should take an expander.Maybe you just need a better bless though
>>569269701https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0bwmxp_Viohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpV-vd9L1Hohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p78PcUArmic
>>569269701Erytheia just needs an awake expander, their troops are awful.With Pan you want to max hammers and spam Grove Guard, they're the best scales troop in the age after Calystri Senatorial Guard. You'll want to use some of your starting army as lance catchers but GG are great at rolling everything afterward.LA Ulm has arguably the best expansion in the game if you take a stygian skin/fire shield/enchanted blood bless. Hochmeisters can legit solo thug expand with that which means you can spam out 3 expansion parties a turn. 40 provs in testing is very real.
>>569278370Thanks
>>569247692>they staledlmao
Post a pretender nobody has ever thought about using
>>569284650
>>569284650I've seen him used in Dom 4
>>569286610Most certainly has a niche in Sloops, where he’s rocking the Sword of Many Colors’ Killing Light.
>>569288115I miss titans actually being good
>almost every tendie sucks besides great sage & immobileswhy did they do this?
>>569300181Drakon, Antlion guy, Golden Lion, Big pig, Erf Snek, and Dagon are all good tendiesThere's more but I cant be bothered listing every one
>>569296587there is a good titan, it's called the Bronze Colossus
>>569296587It's kinda lame how titan gods dont brawl against each other in full items. That is like the whole point of the series having cool fights and the gods barely fight../.
>>569304464You just have to force it yourself, if you want a brawl.
>>569305295I do but my enemies take cuck chassis so there's no other god to fight or it's some immobile like the fountain and it's lame
>>569305295Fuuuuck. If only I had one more turn for the new items! Or maybe I could’ve gone for a castle storm so you couldn’t link up with the army? I don’t know enough about this game, man
>>569300181Regular lich isn't bad even if it's overshadowed by the demilich most of the time. Lich queen gets a special mention for being really cheap in exchange for some unimportant combat stats.
>>569305295I wish there were more barding items. As-is there's only a handful, and of those only a few are worth making, and even then they're all too expensive to justify throwing on anything short of a tendie or an elf, and even then there's approximately two mounted tendies worth using.Some cool mounted summon commanders could be neat. Add the Horsemen of the Apocalypse or something.
Can you explain to an old fella who had his high time in 4, why Titans suck now?
>>569309835Construction changes, indy changes, scales changes
>>569309835The bronze Colossus is good tho
>>569309835New bless system made them too expensive, and there are now more ways than ever to insta kill anything trying to thug or SC
>>569310438what new ways are there?
>>569311414Glamour magic that ignores regen.
>>569311543Also poison
>>569300181skill issue
>>569311543>>569315656Bronze colossus doesn't have this issue
>>569300181they were never good
>they still haven't realized that tendies are purely cosmetic
>>569316053*gets shattered*
>empower illithid to earth 2 to get a dwarven hammer>forge earth boots>he cant wear them because no feethow do I salvage this
>>5693258733 blood empowers for a bloodstone
>>569327445I cant blood hunt underwater (I should be able to)
>>569325873Sucks to suck. Outside of a an earth blood stone or some artifact, the only way is to give him a staff of elemental mastery, a ring of wizardry, or that one robe whose name I forgot. But if you can't forge a hammer you probably can't forge any of those either. I guess you could also empower him again.
