Forgot To Bake Edition>Combat Tuning Previewhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/season_2_combat_tuning_preview>Welcome to Season 2https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>Season 2 Cinematic Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1i801SDrJA [Embed] [Open]>Youtube and Twitter:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGamehttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/Previous run: >>569301290
>>569455362LOL. Failure after failure.
>bungie can't even afford to keep this general afloatNot looking good Marasisters!
night marsh is pretty fun
>already losing players despite the big s2 patch and f2p weeklmao. what will the weekend bump look like 20k? maybe more if the streamers start the shilling tomorrow.
>unload full copperhead mag into grey shield>they turn around and blast me with v11 punchI thought this thing was buffed?
>sick of doing the cringe sponsored mode bumrush for control compelx>play a proper game and do control complex>team just waits and murders us as we finish killing the warden
If we’re being real here, this map is not three months worth of work. It’s Dire Marsh with a few new rooms, a new enemy and that’s about it. There’s definite polish in the map with the hallucinations and whatnot, but it’s not what would be perceived as 3 months worth of work. A team the size of Bungie could get Night Marsh done and polished in a month with 30 people working.
>>569457551I was just thinking the same thing, the map is fun but it feels like the work of a 30-person AA dev team. I wonder how many of bungie's employees are actual workers and how many are just corporate bloat like HR and middle management
>>569457551this is bungie we're talking about, what were you expecting?
>>569457821That's why the studio is downsizing from 800 workers to 500 or less
Why did Marathon fail?
>Random fill the survival playlist looking for some other dudes to try and blitz the boss room>Actually find a duo of other triages, both with ranked emblems and one in the compiler skin>They're trying to farm the gold room too>They talk about how their cradle is already like level 30 or 40>Dude brags about how he already has his 3rd gold misriah when he only got "like 20" last season>Sounds like these dudes are hardcore, I've had like a half dozen gold guns TOTAL and a single gold salvage all season 1>Do the stick with crew thing to play with them for like 3 hours with high hopes>We consistently get to the middle of upper complex with 4+ minutes left>And yet only make it out with gold shit like 4-5 times in 3 hours>These dipshits can't stay on their feet during the boss waves, sometimes even going down to bots while we're outside doing towers first>Barely use their drones, complain about how the V11 needs "4 mags" just to kill the 2 blue bots outside quarentine>And yet are elbow deep in the gold box before I can even get in the room after carrying them through the bossI drives me insane that the best way to succeed at this game isn't to be skilled, just willing to bash your head against the wall enough, apparently a fucking monkey can kill compliler if he just does enough cyro runs
>>569458541bungie doesn't seem to be aware that they no longer has destiny addicts propping up their retarded egotistical decisions
I tried liking Marathon, but I just can't help but find trash collector games boring. Any idea when it's going fully F2P?
>>569458623Is this news to you? The key difference between extraction shooter and battle royale is that extraction shooter is less skill based, that you can get an edge just with persisitence.
>>569458735Probably Season 5, if Bungie and Marathon doesn't get shut down before then.
>>569458735Depends on sony's strategy with Farigames. Having 2 team based f2p extraction shooters at the same time?
I remember wanting a Marathon 4 as a kid, it sure as fuck wasn't an extraction shooter for faggots.
>>569458735depends on if sony thinks it's worthwhile to crack the whip instead of just cutting their losses, I don't think bungie's pride would allow them to do it of their own accord
>>569458908I've done plenty of little one night stands with rando pugs in arc raiders or tarkov, never before has the gap between "done more than me" and "plays worse than me." been so stark and in my face.
>>569458623Marathon might be the least skilled extraction shooter, it's why the destiny pvp sweats dropped it when they couldnt compete with other no lifes who were doing it even without getting paid.
>>569459789but every maratranny online has been telling me it's actually the most hardcore cutthroat esport to ever be released
>>569459970Lol, it's hardcore in the sense that unlike other extraction shooters it leans way more into pvp than pve but that just makes it more annoying in general because youre pretty much forced to kill the whole lobby to do anything.
The Marathon "community" killed Marathon (2026)
>>569459970Rise_GKM is unironically a god tier CoD player and crushes Marathon. Its no more or less skilled than other games.
That gay guy?
Marasnooze
Did they fucking buff the robots or am I crazy?
>>569461490feels the same to me
>free trial extended to June 11Oh mein gott...https://x.com/i/status/2062649156431126938
>>569462968I mean, I like this game a lot, but when I read that, all I can see is pic related.
>>569461490>Did they fucking buff the robots>>569461718>feels the same to meI just killed the Night boss with a free kit. We hat grey shields, 2 Triages and a Sentinel
>>569462968>>free trial extendedThey should've had a collab event for this. New poster for the game, new unlockable gun and shell camos(in game achievements, not paid).Why not collab with Gaylo, it's in development for Playstation.>Cortana skin Recon or Thief>Animated milky way floating gun camo, that can be used on any gun, after you do challenges
Killed night boss before the Rookniggers got patched in. Phew
redpill me on flares, what use could they possibly be?
>feeling a little devilish>go to nightmarsh as rook to see if I can 1v3 groups>everyone is so friendly at extract I dont have the heart to shoot themPlus I can never find any grenades. Been hoping to find a team in the middle of fighting the high value target but no luck yet.
>>569464518Rave room to set the mood for rape
>three marathon threads up at all times on /v/Anti-shills always do this. They trash talk a game so hard on /v/ that it eventually turns around and becomes the counterculture to enjoy the game.
>>569465524they'll get bored when the next chapter of the concordian timeline releases
did these niggers seriously make it so that solo sponsored night marsh always spawns you as far away from complex as possible
how do i get the no fun allowed skin for recon
>50 silkgimme a spectre armor
>>569465868I haven't played a while due to shit internet Can you me give me a qrd of night marsh?
>>569466634UESC drop credentials that let you enter upper complex which is bascially a close quarters warden fight with a bunch of adds and awards gold loot.Like pinnacle red cards, with a little luck you can do it in about 5 minutesalso it's dark
>>569466923>with a little luck you can do it in about 5 minutesWith a lot of luck and two Triages, the fuck you talking about 5 minutes. Get this lying negro out of here, or post clip of 5 mins
They'd have to reset the season to fix the loot economy and get rid of pve mode
To kill Night Marsh boss, and make it out alive, you need to>hack at least 3(three) towers quickly>loot 3 different box locations to upgrade the shitty free kit>get Observation key within those three box locations>go to Complex, start the event>three phases of bots and two "button shooting puzzles">then comes Golden faggot with more botsWith luck you do this in over 9(nine) minutes. And you need Triage shells to either rez, or EMP the strong bots.
>>569467634>to fix the loot economyWhy bother? Bad players with good loot still lose, at least let them tank a couple of bullets. 90% of Destiny fans are very bad at Marathon PvP. 100% of new, non season one players are also very bad at the game.
>>569467804It's not a level playing field any more
>>569467697were you able to kill it? me and my buddy have tried 3x, but it seems like you really need a cordinated team who knows what to do. We are trying the sponsored kit, have gotten close twice, but it seems like it needs to be executed perfectly. Biggest problems are ammo, meds, and time.
A PvE mode that has Rooks is not a bad idea, PvP is not fully removed. I seethed and hated the news about this. Now, when I kill a squad of clueless retards, and they have blue guns and stuff, it's not bad.Let them farm levels and loot, while watching out for giga Rooks. Who cares, they bring that stuff to Standard maps.>there is still a way to PvP those, who mainly play PvE survivalThis is a very good idea, much better than full PvE. Rook turned out to be a killer feature.
I like the new PvE mode because I've had a fever this week and been too tired to sweat for the main mode, otherwise I'd have played PoE2 or something. There's still a slight tension with the risk of rooks, especially solo, but not so much that cortisol spikes through the roof
>>569469076>PvE modePvP-lite*
>>569458541why the fuck in the 4 years since covid this game specifically would attract this old fuck?
>>569469264The game looks goofy, but plays very manly. If you have giant balls, and endless patience, you win with any gear, always. Sissy faggot boys call this game punishing and unfair
>>569469451can someone not an autistic NEET reply to my question?
>>569469591I'm not a NEET, I'm a master electrician. And aimbotter.
>>569469264>>569469591there's a few boomers who are fans of the OG 90s marathon, prolly that's why
>>569469692in your dreams NEET>>569469694makes sense thanks.
>>569469692>giant balls and manly>aimbotterpick one
>>569468091>were you able to kill it?Yes, with randoms
when are they turning on duo queue for every map
>>569470345shortens queue times too much i think. the weird thing about duos though is that it's by far the easiest queue when i play it. maybe it's because i discord call my duo so we have better comms? but it's even more retarded than solo. trios is the thunderdome in comparison
>>569470581oops i said shortens when i meant to say lengthens
>>569470581weird, duos has been the most fun for me. trio fights are too chaotic for my liking, and solo is too much of a ratfest. duos hit a nice balance between those two
>>569469914looks like you didn't hit the loot room though. seems like that's not easy with free kits
converted all my salvage from 2 days of sponsored night dire marsh farming and got 11 cradle levels, lol
>>569470734my duo and i play so ratty it's fun and effective, doesn't work with trio squads because the fill is always like "WHERE CAN I RUN AROUND AND MAKE A LOT OF NOISE FOR SOME GREEN LOOT" and that's all that's in their whole brain
>>569470856did you guys notice that the cradle has 14 nodes per row and the perks are aligned on it like lightning bolts or am i insane about neonazi cryptography
>>569470927what does the number 14 have to do with neonazism?
>>569470774We would get loot, if we worked together from the start. One of them found the key, told us, and rushed to Complex. I told them "let's open caches first, to get health packs and ammo". Triage guy listened, Sentinel went in without upgrading his free kit. As I said, it's not possible in 5 minutes with luck. With luck, you still need over 9 minutes. >>569467697
Now that I dominated ultra-hard PvE, I'll go back to PvP hunting. And by hunting, I mean catching people off guard, injured, and shooting them in the back.
>>569471460You'll get ratted by some shitter who farmed pve for cradle levels
Can me and my buddy queue together as rook or nah?
>bungie killed my marathon addiction by fumbling the launch and then locking my rook into a bugged modegood riddance, no fomo for me
>>569464694>>569464694>I found two clays and threw them down at a group of four rooks dancing at the extract>they ALL got knocked>only had time to finish off two of them before the exfil finishedI can’t imagine letting rooks live ever. I queued as a runner earlier and my teammate pinged a mercy kit when I was halfway through my finisher animation…
What would the best season start contract order?
>>569472742Who the heck is this dorky unc
>>569472742i dig it
Bots seem to spawn way higher tiers on narsh kind of feels opressive as a rook again with the shitty version with no upgrades
>oh sponsored survival? so you start with a basic kit and have to survive as a team while waves of player scavs come at you, sounds fun>the rook count is so tiny that it's just boring pveunfortunate...i don't get pve gamers. if i want to kill time i'd rather play something with exploration or like a decent story. people who go "i would play marathon if i could just walk around the map clicking on uesc" are ???
>>569473246just play the sponsored mode as solo non-rook, it's much better. fill or no-fill
>>569473887im sad they nerfed rook so hard desu
do i have to go to cradle now for each shell and click on the stat bar to see what is which shell's base stat? the quick overview is gone
I saw one (1) other Rook in one of my games and it was only at final exfil
>>569473887kek, everytime I play nightmarsh there are zero rookstomorrow I plan to rook main and learn all the cool spots to haunt players
Marathon Is Pretty Good and I wish it wasn't surrounded by narratives of it not being worth playing because its death is imminent/it deserving to die because it """killed""" a shitty dark pattern game
>>569474068Press Z in the vault.
>>569474319huh that was hard to notice, thank
>>569474227Marathon Was Pretty Good*season 1 was greatseason 2 is off to an abysmal start
>>569474227NOOOO IF MARATHON DOESNT DIE THEN HOW WILL I DO SHADOWKEEP PATROL ZONES IN 2027
>spawn in the 3m left on sponsored timer as rookLiterally what is the point of that lmao.
Rook duo bughttps://x.com/guapogary_/status/2062745037302006180?s=46
>>569474485I don't like a lot of the changes but i'm ok with some of them and the fundamental game still feels fun
What I was expecting with Sponsored Narsh>Rooks all spawning in at once at X time and swarming the mapWhat actually happens>Rooks still have staggered spawns anywhere from 13 minutes to 3 minutes which effectively means a team only has to fight a single Rook every 2 or 3 minutes.
honestly what i would do if i were bungie and i wanted to do something for the "pvp bad, marathon bad" audience is commit a small team to a AA singleplayer title making liberal use of marathon's pre-existing assets trying to contort marathon to be PVE just isn't going to work
Yeah
>>569471965I'm the king of all rats and the niggest shitter on earth
>>569475990:)
God I love seeing this game burn.I don't care if it takes another week, a month, a year, even 10 fucking years, all I care about is that we will eventually be right, and the Maratroons can cry about their little LSD faggot game ending up just like Concord.
THE GAME WASN'T EVEN ON SALE DURING FREE WEEK?
>>569457051>warden finally spawns>enemy team breaches lock and pushes in>freely navigate around and destroy my team while every single bot including the warden hyper focus my team>final screen is my last teammate trying to take cover while 3 bots chase him next to 2 enemy runners>bots still don’t aggro other players, just start sucking my teammate.The main result of trying to really blend PvP and PvE in this game is the people initiating the PvE feeling like retard suckers majority of the time.Imagine going through the chore of hitting a bunch of towers and hoping for a lab key when you can let another team do all the work and just kill them mid warden
Wojakfag as pathetic as Alysafag(was reduced to zero credits and couldn't even buy a bully)
>>569476362>3 months after release>still rent free
>>569475721The games is good, but what on earth are 500 people doing on marathon exactly? You can be liberal with the employees and international stuff Bungie do, but what are the technical people doing?What part of the game constitutes 100 programmers or 200 artists when it’s mostly D2 animations? What’s going on at that company? I bring it up because with those sort of manpower numbers, Marathon should be leagues ahead of other extraction shooters content wise.
>>569476362Let me ask you this: when has a 4chan schizo ever won anything on this website? Barry won once with FFXiV and that’s it.
>>569476813>has a 4chan schizo ever won anything on this website?I won the removal of Call of Duty from Game Pass, go ask /codg/ about the "Not on Game Pass" guy.
>>569476647Bot AI is aggressively retarded and they don't target swap once they lock on to a player.
Sponsored Night Marsh is actually really boring now that I know I will never realistically run into other players the whole match. Maybe this is some kind of intentional thing to make people realize you need some friction with the overarching threat of being jumped.
>>569476647>every single bot including the warden hyper focus my team>>569476934>Bot AI is aggressively retarded and they don't target swapUESC does target swap. Every time I use invis, bots start shooting enemy runners. Then, I appear behind those runners, and go deep inside of them.
what an odd bonus objective
>>569476934the amount of fucking noise they continue to make firing at the last spot they saw you is so irritating
>>569477256Okay but that's a specific condition, I'm taking about if you're both standing there and it targets the other dude it won't stop until a full line of sight break and remaining out of view.
>>569477395This has to be them getting their feet wet with doing some kind of real fashion rep stuff since I'm assuming that's a Traxus mission
>>569477909*faction rep
Finally played as rook twice; didn't see anyone and extracted alone.. weird
Just killed someone I saw running in the open in overflow, shot a pink explosive barrel and it killed them, oh I was laughing
>>569458541based boomer
>>569478143This time of day the numbers in games seem low, good time to solo contract. Love wfh
>>569455362how are you supposed to have enough time to do upper complex?? you run around to towers for the shittiest drop rate key, then you have to do an outside puzzle, three inside puzzles, a puzzle in the boss fight, like what the fuck bro? and if the commander spawns for the key you have to deal with teams just waiting to assrape you. i've been into complex three times and never had enough time to finish the boss and we end up having to bail each time.
>>569476362same bro
>>569459970>>569459789>>569460317Most people don't understand skill and difficulty at all. To people with fairly good aim, and lets define that as being able to control recoil on CS for a whole pattern, the auto aim on this game is infuriating. There's a reason why it's ignored by every single high mechanical skill streamer.The game de emphasizes mechanics with heat and auto aim in favor of other things, most notably being able to read other teams intentions from sound. Now > Its no more or less skilled than other games.is completely fucking idiotic, and you should feel bad, no disrespect to Rise.>>569459575You have the curse of vision now anon. You'll never be able to unsee it.
>>569481059in real night marsh you have 25 mins (and other squads to kill)
The rubberbanding is insufferable. I just died to a fucking UESC recruit because I was frozen in place while this fucker got free shots on me.
I haven't posted here since March, but I just wanted to say that I still think of you guys <3This game would've been so good if it weren't an extraction shooter. Sucks that it turned out this way.
i'm sure the fleshed-out pve mode that will come out in a year will save this gamebut that's assuming sony will even let bungie burn a year's worth of money to upkeep the game until then
This season's a fucking disaster. I'm just not feeling it at all anymore. Absolutely zero actual new contracts, night marsh is one fucking new area bolted onto complex, new enemies are just a screeb and a turret. I can't stomach the idea of having to grind just to be able to readily acquire fucking green shields meanwhile everyone I face is running purples and golds already because they're soulless bugmen who would farm the worst pve mode ever made for 100 hours just to get an advantage in pvp. Not even to speak of all the UI bugs, the interface is totally fucking massacred for NO reason. Fucking awful. I can't believe it, this is above and beyond in incompetence and ineptitude. I expected the worst and got worse.
>>569485008>i'm sure the fleshed-out pve mode that will come out in a year will save this gamewon't do much if they don't advertise shit like they don't now. didn't see anything anywhere about season 2 and its f2p period
>>569485301>Now get lost.that's kinda the problem, everyone has
>>569485008>in a yearWhy do people keep talking about some PvE mode that's supposed to come out in a year? All I know is that is supposed to be an objective-based PvE mode coming for this midseason update.
>>569485393I'm still playing it, with people
>>569485384i mean, it's a fucking bungie game. it has decent word of mouth by now, especially with destiny 2 getting gutted for it, and it got a spot in the sony direct.crux of the issue is the genre is too niche and unfun for the average gamer. lots of people keep sharing about how their friend groups won't play because of the extraction shooter genre being unappealing, and that is whats stopping this game from growing.
>>569484449I would have got bored a lot sooner if this was a straight up team shooter/co-op. The tension and suspense of the exfil is what makes this game what it is. Yes it's annoying to have 20 minutes wasted by a camper or gold team, but that's just the way it goes.
>>569485716i'm sure bungie experimenting with PvE-focused modes and expanding upon them despite saying they wouldn't do it ever is surely just for funsy and an absolute waste of future resources, especially after sunsetting their main PvE-focused game, because why not right?
>>569486065bodied that freak with gojo
>>569486115Why can't you give me a straight answer? Why do you have to be bitter and sarcastic?
>>569486065Better luck with what? I don't care about Bungie or the Steam chart trannies.
>>569486115To be fair the fact that they are doing experimental modes when they had years to bolt the game down is very telling. Must be a shitshow in that campus.
>>569486226they're clearly setting up for PvE being a mainstay mode and they're currently in the process of trying to figure out how with what little PvE content is currently ready alongside designing new shit for it. why a year specifically is because this game wasn't designed for PvE, as the small roster of enemy variety clearly shows, and also the devs actively said no to doing it. a year of development is a good estimate for them to push out something engaging and worthwhile similar to what other PvE games offer. this isn't hard to comprehend.
how to identify a homosexual on /mg/>is bad at the game>talks about the developer, instead of playing the game>does not post gameplay>does not post ideas for in-game strategies>talks about the developers>talks about playercount>is bad at the game
>>569486469So it was you saying "PvE mode in a year" on /v/ as well?
where's your compiler kill avatarfag?
>>569486595no, i'm hanging out here because i tried the game earlier and want to talk about it, not talk about steam charts on /v/
>>569486650I know you think it's cute, anime posting tranny
>>569485864
i really don't understand why they chose to incorporate hero shooter shit instead of letting us make customized shells using base templates.a lot of people don't like the general designs of the runners to begin with, let alone dropping $20 for a skin which is needed to keep the studio lights on. insane decision to me.
>>569487495>dropping $20 for a skin which is needed to keep the studio lights on.The studio lights won't go out, until it produces at least one more game for the next console. Sony studios exist for the console, Bungie's logo won't be scrapped, until the new PS6(six) game flops.And if it's a single player game, it's gonna be full exclusive. Sony 2026 runs with different leadership, a jap grandpa. He doesn't fuck with PC ports, and wants new IP.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/sony-pulls-back-from-playstation-games-on-pc
>how many quit Marathon>how many will buy skinsDoesn't matter, Bungie won't shut down, until one more try, on the next-gen system.
>>569487495i hated it at first but i dont mind now. i just wish they add some more skins that had some real color, tired of these black and white skins.
>Friend giving it a go>Is lvl.10>Shows me footage of a assassin with gold shield one shotting him seconds after spawn>Has decided the game is not for himThese fuckers are their own worst enemy.
>>569488808wheres the footage?
>>569473887its comfyfag pve gamers who just want something reliable and predictable to grind.
>>569489343#WeWantDestiny3 etc etc
kek they made a map of all cert 5 map locations on the open map ayyy100% chance of getting a purple per run and the only thing that could stop you is a faggot rook at the final exfil lol
>>569476362mental illness
>>569489854Who the fuck is they? All the db sites are dead and map anon hasn't said anything about mapping NM.
>>569489854>100% chance of getting a purpleWhat's the big deal? Purple dies just as easy, as green.>but you need to land an extra 2 bulletsBig deal
The pve mode should be a roguelite like prey mooncrash>Everyone can only jump in at first as UESC rook>Way more bots, screebs and new enemies>Extracting with certain items unlocks new stuff on a UESC faction tree>But weapons, mods and the like still need to be found in gameplay to unlock them for infil>You can find runner shells hidden away in places like the tick tunnels in perimiter to unlock them for play but they are damaged and break after a few deaths>The seasonal goal is to finish a codex which is a black ops investigation into a specific person of interest from the colony to complete the story and unlock cosmetics and weapon skins and the like.
So I'm thinking the best strategy in early season is to just poorfagkit while selling all your items for cradle xp?
seeing the sukuna faggot get put in his place is kinda funny as fuck
>>569490869Don't sell all your items, keep the weapon mods and consumables.>>569491135He was always on top of you
>>569491494>He was always on top of yougojo? yeah
>>569490726anon i think you are the only person who talks about mooncrash still. its clearly your autistic totem game.
>>569490404niggas on X>>569490528no i mean, any purple, i got a full purple battle pistol, a purple bag, 4 purple shields now, a purple m77 and i even got a basement outpost purple key lmaoif you open two 5 cert boxes you can get 8+ purples per run of anything of anythingim at 100k vault value no with no money because every green and blue gets turned into skill pointonly problem is the amount of you can take out because bags are rare to come across per runyou fags should get on this before they patch it, remember when broken wing was accessible by breaking those 5 boxes in the first week when the game came out?it's that broken (well takes more time and you dont have to deal with runners)
>>569467697I did that once with a team - we managed to get the observation key and rushed Complex, 11 minutes, and then a very tought fight with Boss because we had fuck-all for heals (its why i am now running a Triage). Still, we made it good, i got a Mizzy out of it.Had another time where i hit Quarantine and got a key to greenhouse room (blue), but my teammates rushed Complex. They managed to do it togethere - they were both Triages. So i got to loot a keyroom by myself, and they managed to finish the Boss and looted Complex. We all got blue shields out of it, idk what else they got, but i had to leave 2 blue ansd purple longshots behind, and shitloads of mats.I personally dont care all that much for complex. Just raiding towers and finding a key to a room is enough for me. Also mats are a priority, those upgrades are costly.Anyway, you need atleast 10 minutes to do Complex thingy AND thats assuming you got the observation key.
>>569491494>keep the weapon modsnah convert that shit nigga, the only thing I'm saving is shields and sniper rifles
>>569490125>DOA DOA layoffs DOA DOA shutdown DOAAt least one of these videos have to be from March or April kek. That's how wrong the chudsissies are.
>>569489854link faggot
>40k peak into 37k into 34knot gonna lie, I wasn't expecting it to die this fast
>>569493852>sponsored pseudo-PvE queue is on a map where not even a flashlight can save youThey should've done it on Perimeter too.>standard sponsored kit - Perimeter PvP-lite>enhanced sponsored kit - Night Marsh PvP-liteBut these dolts fucked it up. Does not help that if you want to queue again for that PvP-lite, you have to select the whole thing again instead of mashing "repeat". Also, no CARRI, and that shit was nice and useful.
>>569493852People act like Extraction Shooters are the next BR breakthrough hits, but what they don't realize is Extraction Shooters have already peaked.
>>569495563That and its also a sicko genre like rhymn games or rts and not for john gamerdad wanting to "shut my brain off and chill after work".
season 2 flopped and slopped
>>569495563To be fair, Arc reached a very respectable peak.It's important to remember that Marathon was envisioned to be the game that made extraction mainstream. Arc both stole the thunder by releasing first and (whatever you think of it's relative quality) was designed a lot more intelligently towards actually achieving that goal of mainstream appeal.
>>569496532Not going to make your destiny cuckpatch save your dead brand bro.
>>569497009Two corpses in one grave.
>>569495563Different people associate different things when they hear Extraction Shooter. For me its just a shooter with a time limit and an objective to safely leave match under specified conditions. Even Stalker or Atomfall or Fallout could be made into extraction shooters, hell, Quake, Unreal, Bioshock, System Shock, Prey, Deus Ex - any shooter or even hack&slash can be made into an extraction game. The issue is that unfortunately extraction shooters cultivated a very specific playerbase who tend to ruin the game type for everyone else involved because they just want to club some seals.
>>569497182PvPvE is the biggest retard bait, think about it; casual PvE players are doing their trash collection missions, what are PvP players supposed to do? So then you get the casuals crying about how PvP should be sectioned off, but doing that defeats the purpose of the ENTIRE GAME. So you end up with a subpar PvE experience and PvP players who exploit every advantage to get player kills.
>>569496532Posted it again award. Keep telling yourself that geeeeg
>>569497092You forget bro, Halo's already down there.
There's a 3D animated video of Thief giving a blowjob by a guy called KairoKayn. I can't stop jerking off to that video.
>>569497829Personally i just like it because its got variety. Like you try crucible in Destiny and it all blurs together into "spawn, run towards motion tracker, random bullshit go, eventually die, respawn, repeat". Like Marathon i might have the most tense stand offs imaginable or see nobody and be super paranoid or something completely different and that variety makes it more interesting to me personally than a team deathmatch that just feels kind of empty in terms of appeal for me.
>>569498401After trying out the free week for the past couple days I can say that just like all PvPvE games, this one is boring and I can't be assed to grind up all the bullshit. I'd rather just play a PvP focused game.
>>569498401not enough shooters nowadays have enough downtime to nurture the melancholic souls
I really want to get better at this game but for the life of me I don't know how.I understand the basics, walk and or crouch in POIs, knife out during large open areas to seek cover, ping Runners, UESC, and Claymore TrapsWhat fucks me is when enemy runners are on my team and I don't know what to do, I usually never have any decent guns on me to kill anything and now that everyone is in purple and yellow gear I can't even do that now.What's really annoying is I don't have that gift where some players can be self-aware and know what they did wrong and how to correct it, I can't even figure that out.
Teaching Skracs to say racial slurs so the LLM running the UESC bots can't operate around them.
Whenever I rewatch the intro cutscene, I'm always amused by one of the news reporters doing a fake deep voice to imitate a Russian accent.
>>569498796See this guy gets it. Sometimes you want to just stand in the rain asking yourself why you are here, or if that truck looks like a puma.
>>569498401>>569498796>>569499213As a PvE player who plays Nu-Marathon and is awful at it. I don't care that I die but I just want to vibe and wander inbetween engagements, everyone just wants to bunny hop to one of the POIs you know other Runners are at.This game some how manages, in all its shit, to bring back Halo ODST vibes, just needs the Jazz or something from NeoTokyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5w1jfGSgUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmdUKbbYoE
>>569499642It reminds me of Halo Reach a lot more than i expected, but with some MGSV thrown in.
>>569497829>thinking extraction is PvPvEIt is not. PvP, PvE, PvPvE - thats just smodular stuff that gets tacked on.
>>569498959I feel you anon, it’s really hard to get better at PvP in this game because the extraction nature means you get one attempt basically every 10-15 minutes. >load in (5 minutes)>run around map (5 - 10 minutes)>die to first person you encounter>load back inYou can’t get reps in fast enough to learn and get better like you could with an arena shooter.
>>569498959if your team is engaged andnyou arent you have two real options:>if you can flank in under 5 seconds, flank.>if you cant, join your team and engage.>if they're dead with no enemy deaths? wait in a corner 100m away and come back after a few minutes and try to rez.
>>569500765I think this best describes it for me.Matches don't last long enough so I can learn, they end before they even start for me so I can't even learn.
>>569476647>The main result of trying to really blend PvP and PvE in this game is the people initiating the PvE feeling like retard suckers majority of the time.>>569460121>youre pretty much forced to kill the whole lobby to do anything.This feels like the way Bungie intended for the game to be played. Wipe the map, do objective, then leave.Games where you just do your priority contracts, grab some shitty loot, and leave, feel pretty lame. Doing objectives with actual loot like key rooms or pinwheel or whatever ARE fun but you have to be good enough to wipe the map or at least win more encounters than you lose.
it's so jarring to have a vault full of blues and purples from baby marsh but zero fucking shields to actually put a loadout together. I guess I should just feed all this shit to the cradle until I can buy shields?
>>569502647Stop slacking and do your nucal contracts anon
>>569502647You can start buying green shields at nucal rank 8, barter is even earlier.
I know others in here would hate it but I would spend money on a Cyberpunk/Edge Runner crossover like no tomorrow.
For basically all of S1 I've been playing with sounds at high volume and music being silent, of not entirely off.Then I decided to actually have the music on, and it's seriously way better. The music is actually good.What's more, there's actual combat music that kicks in whenever an engagement goes off. It's awesome.
>>569504304Considering Halos going multiplat i am shocked they didn't put in a straight mjolnir armor for Destroyer and cortana for Recon.
>>569504553I'm not sure if its a graphic glitch or what but I sometimes see players with a green armor, gold visor Destroyer on occasion.
>>569504719That's the Xbox exclusive destroyer skin.
>>569504991
>>569504501The music is a form of feedback for whats going on in the game
>>569500765You could just go to Hauler if you want PvP.
>Rookin' and truckin' around Dire Marsh>Players miles away>Walk through a bog>To my left hear in my 3d stereo headphones something splashing and running past me just outside my fov>Turn and look>Nothing there2spooky4me
>>569505214It's also not bothersome at all, there is no need to tune it all the way down.
why does it matter if the game failed? none of us will even be able to afford to play vidya in five years. we're going to be playing marathon irl with a gopro, hipoint, and a boat ride to the lithium mines in africa
>>569506459is this what you tell yourself to feel better about being a neet?
>>569505740Doesn’t solve the >die to first player I encounterI’m a terminal shitter
im getting skill points out of the cores of the shells i never played in S1 and wont play in S2, so far all the triage/destroyer/vandal cores go into making me more broken>>569506459we will play marathon 2 on the PS6 portable
>thread created 13 hours ago>only 200 repliesit's ogre
>been using headphones into my controller all of season 1 this whole time>lose them last week>play night marsh with no sound>but it's ok as im farming sponsored narsh>one of my team mates gets downed by a rook>take out my old stereo speakers from under my bed because i had a bunch of purple shit>ITSGAMINGTIME.mvk>dumbass rook spent 2 minutes cleaning that other nigga out his valuables>me and my other team mate just shit on himi dont understand if you gonna rook why not upgrade that nigga first? also doing the sponsored rook on narsh is kinda hard no? since you have to final exfil with them anyway and exfil spawns are even more random than the ones in outpost
>>569507572Not many people are going to have Rook upgrades yet. They are like 5 or so nodes into the faction upgrades I think
>11:30AM in the East Coast of the United States>Takes 3 to 5 minutes to get into a match>We're Day 4 of Season 2 with an extension of the Free Week
Since they changed rank up rewards into just materials instead of items, what about VIP rank ups? Will you no longer get easy purple shields from spamming Nucal quests?
>>569499868The whole hook of this game for me personally is a sense of>fuck it close enough, welcome back halo
>>569508494Right now, anyone who's Above-Average to Super Sweat already have everything from Complex Anon. You don't even need to find the unique key for the boss room.The rooms before it have tons of purples and yellows in them.
>>569509064Now just to get a single-player I can play.
>>569509360for me it's an arena multiplayer without all the tedious in between bullshit but a decent single player story would be nice.
>>569508486>it’s a workday >game only appeals to uncs We’re at work anon
>>569509226There's no way the classic fill trio of uncoordinated dipshits is managing it. You need a stack.
>>569509935Anon, gotta work on your reading comprehension.You don't need to go into the final boss room, the rooms leading up to it, which just needs seven keys either from unlocking all the smaller doors or the giant door and going into the upperfloors nets everyone one to two purples and maybe one yellow. Again, you don't need to get to the final boss room.
>>569502820shit's boring though I already did them all last season
>>569481059>how the fuck are you supposed to have enough time to do compiler?? you run around for the shittiest drop rate key, then
People already maxxed out all statsThey are burning through golds they farmed in complex
>>569510571they abandoned the core players for ten hour casuals
>>569510657>muh streamers
>>569508486Are you still doing non cross play onlyIm getting matched almost instantly
>>569510571>Four days in, free week was extended>Anyone whos Above Average to Sweats have not only all purple and yellow gear filled with said gear but also have max Cradle>Four Days In>Bungie and espeically Sony want new players to play their game
>>569510657Well to be fair its people abusing sponsored night marsh, it ends in 4 days
>>569510710I'm on PC so I don't have that option. Crossplay is always on.
>>569510858and they'll still have max cradle and a lot of great loot
>>569510812This wouldn't be an issue at all if their matchmaking wasn't inting garbage. Freaks were always going to max out way before average investment players, and it wouldn't matter if they weren't put in lobbies with the poors.
Wait a minute if free play ends on the 11th wouldn't that mean normies will get to experience Cryo?I wonder if playing that map will make people ragequit or want to play more
>>569510812RPG grindin elements in a PvP shooter seems like someone's brainfart of an idea that sounded cool at the moment. There's no way they keep it past this season. Though I guess it isn't so bad once the average player gets 30 hours or so and maxes most everything out
last season we were all playing the same game now there's some other game
>>569511071Poor excuse imo, this has been way faster than Season 1, way to fast, yeah nolifers gonna nolife but this is on another whole level.On top of all the freekits everyone got on Day one?The two friends who I got to play this have already dropped and returned the games because all they go into contact with are purple shielded players
>>569511129Depends, on average how many normies are good at the game to be honest.Most of the Season 1 players have already rushed Complex and gotten everything they could ever want on top of a full Vault and Max Cradle before Cryo is out.I wonder how many Marathon Dads are going to say this is ok and expected and how many are going to quit because of it and other normies.There was already complaints with Cryo in Season 1 and its difficulty and griefing if you weren't skilled/sweatlord
>>569511376Barely a week and already in deep shit stuck with free kit. What a game.
lorefags, is there anything new in the priority contracts worth listening to? so far nucal is sounding pretty familiar with the same quest steps
>>569511376>The two friends who I got to play this have already dropped and returned the games because all they go into contact with are purple shielded playersThe compensation kits were salt on the gaping wound that is bungie matchmaking. Without the kits, they would have gone up against level 50+ players in golds this weekend and made the sane choice to quit. If you remove the attic, it would have been the same players in pinwheel purples matched against your friends. Bungie fucked themselves twice over.
>>569511778>so far nucal is sounding pretty familiar with the same quest stepsThose are the same contracts as in season 1, with a few objective tweaks. Same cutscenes, too. Only Traxus and MIDA have new ones, which I've yet to play.
>>569511778All of the new lore are from random drops in Night Marsh and some new ones in Pinwheel.Basically there's a bunch of Scientist who are dead and not dead stuck inside those Reverb farts like Inception.Outside the two new, short contracts from MIDA and Traxus everything is *exactly* the same (lazy af from Bungie)
>>569511920100% agreed.The hard filtering for casuals is to strong in my honest to god opinion. Sony wants this game to succeed (we see this with them shooting Destiny 2 outback behind the farm house) and the extended weekend but instead we're getting the same amount of numbers for the game mid-Season 1 already
>dmgs cat just died as he loses his job at Bungie because Sony canned Destiny 2https://x.com/A_dmg04/status/2062908867902878135
>>569509226>The rooms before it have tons of purples and yellows in themMeme? Because i did that 4 times and have yet to see anything above a purple shield.
>>569512521Same. Though I've only done it 3 times
>>569512521>>569512631I've gotten four purple shields, two purple guns, handful of purple codex items, a couple stand-alone purple gun mods and a singular yellow scope. This was all before Bungie patched the Rook bug
>>569512476i want everyone playing the same game
kiss my toes
>[Deleted]Based schizo removal
>>569513327he's right you know
>>569513148i humbly kneel
>>569513148See>>569512401And the Audio Team behind Destiny 2 just gave away the OST for the game for free. Its dead Anon, let it go, let Marathon be your new home; Sony's already blessed us.https://x.com/DestinyTheGame/status/2062912800947683448>/dg/ Thinks doing a protest on the 9th will make Sony change their mindGod you're pathetic.
>>569510657Yup that's me, and I'm loving it. This is good business, the only way this game will survive is making it approachable enough for the current captured audience to come back once every three months to drop ten dollars on the pass. That's of course assuming the population was going to grow a bit but that's not happening the games fucked
tfw losing out on a bunch of potential cradle XP just because i really don't want to do the sekgen quests
>>569514282it's fucked because they abandoned the competitive integrity of the game for shiny chasers who will quickly bounce to the next shiny thing
>>569514591>LBMM is competitive integrityshameless bait
>>569514789everyone playing pvpve was fair now retards who can't hang get free purples for existing
>>569514905if they're shitters you can still beat them easily.
>>569515009i'm just not gonna play against a stacked deck
>>569510571>burning goldsI'm just burning mats.Its not that hard to get to lvl 70 worms.
>>569515261sounds like you just wanted easy kills then
>>569514591I'm sure your viewers will enjoy the clip of you killing 10 shitters in free kit gear.
>>569514905Everyone pvemaxing is also a level playing field retard. Why do you think one type of player "deserves" a certain level of loot and some arbitrary skill level (decided by you) shouldn't get them, fucked up entitlement you got there.
>>569515319no i just want us all to play the same game. before we were all playing baseball. now some of us are playing baseball but you can also score runs by playing croquet against your mom
i refuse to believe PC is where most of the playerbase is
>>569515478free loot against bots that you then use in normal mode takes zero skill, the grind should be in normal mode
>>569515882bro you get free loot daily and just for doing contracts (that you don't even have to exfil to complete). you're just whining because you don't have as many fish in a barrel to shoot
>the whole lobby converges at orientation>last team standing>20 mins to loot all of outpost>let the vandal keep the circuit breaker cause he opened pinnacle and went afk and didn't get any lootI'm such a nice guy
>>569515882>the grind should be in normal modeThere is no grind in normal mode for the average player. Your estimate of "zero skill" is totally out of touch with reality, they're choosing to play pve for good reasons. You assume there was any competitive integrity before because the system was working for you, fill queue in baby marsh for a while and see how many times you can kill the lab warden, if teaching idiots how to activate towers doesn't drive you insane before then.
>>569516114you casual parasites already won since bungie isn't doing anything, let's see what you ruin next
>We are aware of the issue causing the zone selection to reset after each run and currently working on a fix for this in a future update. >For now, it's best to confirm your desired queue after each run. Pardon our dust.https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2062939050583949620
Beginner opinion here but is Outpost considered the worst map? design wise it just feels like maybe it was an earlier build of something put in because they fell behind and doesn't really hit the same as the others.
I'm a nigger lover and a slut fr bbc, Marathon iss my fvorite game
>>569517208Dire Marsh is considered the worst by far
>>569514905>everyone playing pvpve was fairliterally, dear retard, the game's not fair. it's not like quake where the armor items spawn in the map and getting to them is a skill. you grind and invest your time to gain more progressive strength for cheating the pvp in this game.
>>569517208outpost is dogshit i fucking hate outpost
>>569516828something about the way official communications for marathon are written makes me want to punch them in the face
>>569517208>Perimeter is boring and the map visually makes me want to fall asleep. Gives me the same boring desdain a poorly made desert or snow map>Dire Marsh is literal hell. Can get sniped billion meters away and everyone wants to go to Alge Ponds or Gate all the god damn time>Night Marsh is only neat because its at night and has zombies, but again, everyone now wants to rush Complex after getting keys>Outpost is awful, poorly designed, and unfunAll the maps feel like they were made by someone contemplating suicide
>>569517208darsh was the worst by far early S1 because of thermals. then thermals got nerfed but that still didn't stop people from rushing AI uplink roof and sniping anyone crossing through the center. narsh is a better balance because you can't see people from halfway across the map. they tried adding fog to darsh but even then you could still see through it standing at certain distances that would make the fog completely disappear. outpost is just small and any gunshots heard everyone just collapses for the most part.
>>569510812>Anyone whos Above Average to Sweats have not only all purple and yellow gear filled with said gear but also have max Cradlethis was going to happen regardless of sponsored marsh
>>569518646Yes you dummy but it would have taking longer for it to happen. WE'RE FOUR DAYS IN AND ITS ALREADY HERE.Please, can the Anons not be a single neuron poster?
not staggering players was a mistake, there are numerous wipes in other video games where players are locked out of activities to gatekeep them from burning themselves outquite frankly they also should've changed the leveling and the progression in a different way, not made it easier per say, but change it so that knowledge of how season 1 worked wouldn't be so applicable to how season 2 works
>>569514591this game was never going to be taken serious as a competitive platform lmao, competitive gaming is also dead in general outside of the one or two games that matter in the small handful of genres that even have a competitive scene
>outpost fill>me and another guy in a cryo skin, third is a free week player, very new>hawked down by a team in gold shields and called shit over prox chatThey had such an easy win with sponsored mode + free week and they just totally ignored it
>>569520097busted my ass being a bungie dicksucker for years and this is how they treat me??
>>569520097>let's go check out the original thread>6 years agoHoly shit
Casuals should just farm nucal into prestige 15
>Economic Espionage I selected>reverbs nowhere to be seen>any other contract selected>reverbs up the arse
is there a pve only mode yet?
>>569518061Least obvious brown.
>>569521071Huh, upgrades go past VIP now. Interesting.
>>569522151No. Give it 6 more weeks.
>>569522151solo sponsored narsh.
I don't get it, where's everyone getting loot in sponsored marsh? There's not enough time to gear up and do the whole complex run, the lockboxes barely spawn and the tower caches only give greens.
>>569521071How the fuck?
>>569521071Wow so everyone can have shiny gold awesome
>>569524005just do all the priorities
Seems like they're going way in on having an actual barter economy with credits being more of a backup thing, which im fine with honestly. Gives me a reason to still be picking up random crap in 80 hours.
>>569522151No, right now all we have is PvP-lite mode.One team of Runners while the rest of the map slowly fills up with more and more Rooks on Night Marsh
>>569525221Barter drones incoming? You could batter with stones in the middle of the map and the faster you get to one the more loot you can barter with.
>>569525894Except nobody plays Rook at this point of the season.
>>569524703>just do the prioritiesIn a team who also do those exact ones? Sure. Pre-mades IRL too?
That feeling when I'm saving up money so I can buy the neon pink weapon set.I've had it where people refuse to pick up my guns because they're "girly" and also because of how bright they are, some can even be seen quite a ways away from other Runner groups.So Twitch White/Purple guns and Pink Guns are my go-to.I just wish we got more cute stickers for our guns.
>>569526631Some do. Issue with Rook is that without upgrades, atleast a Cradle, you are very very weak, and can gib to some shit very easily.
>>569526759it's meant to sound ridiculous, the priority contracts are absolute dogshit and the idea that players are expected to do them every season is hilarious
>>569527123Why?
>>569526631Exactly. So the PvP-Lite is a free run with purple and yellow drops at the end Anon.Rooks have become null-void now
>>569512401Fuck. RIP.
>>569527167they're not fun, at all. They're purely chores. If Bungie had a firm grasp on the idea of fun they would of axed white shields before the game came out
>>569517208When the game came out Outpost was considered the best map, and design-wise still is when you understand how it works. Then Cryo came out with even better loot (but it's absolute hell) and Night Marsh also upgrades loot from Day Marsh and adds its own "Pinwheel", it's the new thing so it leaves Outpost in a bit weird spot.It's a bit weird how they put all the maps open for the free week, normally you would unlock them more gradually when you had access to slightly better gear.The first time I played Outpost I was just running around aimlessly with no idea what to do. Trying to get into pinwheel in solo free kit is pretty rough unless you loot another player first. Especially now that it looks like they blocked the side rooms for the elevator hacking sequence.
There's nothing more pathetic than loading into an outpost game as Rook and seeing that Pinwheel hasn't been opened at all, like what the fuck are you retards still doing?
>>569527167They're tedious plain and simple.First, Priority Contracts put you into queues with other teams that have the same contracts if they can. Secondly, they usually revolve around an object or enemy everyone needs to kill and once killed they don't spawn for a very long time; in the formers case they usually, in this example, have you go to Algae Ponds or that other place where there's a lot of foot traffic meaning you'll usually never get it done.Sekiguchi is the worse though because by the tail end of the priority chain for NONA you're required to do full runs of Pinwheel without dying.Yeah, sure, have friends, friends that are skilled to do them all or to carry you but if they're not there or you can't do them with randoms they sit there and never get done.I remember one, think it was MIDA, at some point in the Priority Contract you have a "In One Run" which makes you go from Gate, to Alage Ponds, to AI, then wait till 10min mark for the UESC Square to come down and then do something inside of that in a singular run without dying.
Did all priority quests solo in S1 idk just be good at video games idk what else to say really lmao.
>>569527641I guess they assumed reduced time and grey kit start would mean people are not able to do the whole Complex gauntlet but, as usual, underestimated the sweats.See, if it was me designing this mode I'd fucking nerf the Complex loot to blue rewards max. I'd also ramp up UESC reaction - more reinforcement (that don't drop tags), rocketeers beelining for noisy spots, reverb and zombie spontaneous spawns. But hey, Bungie gonna Bungie.
>>569528453It's easier solo because you aren't chained to 2 assholes pulling you in all different directions. Also a lot of solos will run away from any noise you make rather than bunnyhop and movement glitch towards it as fast as possible to farm tiktoks off of you
>>569528692This game needs more AI patrol routes like in an actual fucking extraction shooter with all the bells in whistle dictating sound and gunshots to alert them; like a Wanted system where if there's enouh noise and explosions more and more come to your positionThey're also missing out on just peppering Nightmarsh with a few zombies, I need hordesMetal Gear Solid Extraction Shooter stealth with Tau Ceti Space Zombie apoc
I just know Bungo overtuned Narsh on purpose for the free week to try and entice nooblets with easy loot
>>569528853I really want them to remove bunny hopping, makes it feel to much like a fucking Death Match PvP game instead of a stealth extraction shooter.9 out of 10 times on random runs its two console players bunny hopping and shooting every UESC they see right after starting a run.
>>569529007What's funny is that it's not happening because all the sweats got all the good shit already with max Cradels and are just going back to Perimeter and wiping the fucking floor.Saw a few streamers and one V-Tuber new to Marathon try it for maybe an hour and got in a singular exfil and called it quits. Now imagine casual normies, its probably even worse; shows, at least on Steam numbers that its having the opposite effect.
The fuck?Did the sponsored kit just change to that shit ass pistol???Also did they just nerf the 7 cert 5 locations in the open map?I went through all of them and only found oneI was getting 2 each run
Just accidentally did the symbioant inject as a solo in trios. Killed two people after I left the room and figured they just both came for me separately. Of course their third comes up and finishes me while I'm healing. Totally could have had him too if I realized I was in trios. I can't be the only person dumb enough for this to happen to, the Trios/No fill/Solos options are throwing me off.
>>569529358Another classic blunder of not considering the second order effects of making loot too easy to attain.
>>569528191Its a Sekiguchi one. You need to go to AI Uplink, activate 4 panels to trigger Lockdown on Anomaly, then grab chitin, then make that polymer chain in Bio, then go to Quarantine and have anti-virus on you, make antivirus and chain into SIMbiont, inject yourself, go to the Lockdown, fight UESC mobs, then 2nd wave spawns Commander, kill that guy, and THEN exfiltrate. In one run. It sounds like hell, but its doable on 2nd-3rd run assuming you avoid PvP or just cheat aim bot and wipe the lobby.
>>569529560The issue is that selecting a map defaults you to a trio queue but the "no fill" setting is sticky.
I unironically think if they introduced a Horde Shooter like Left 4 Dead or FBC: Firebreak (people behind Control made this game - basically imagine a large Pinwheel type map and each part of it requires to be complete (usually a chore or some type of thing to save or stop the map from exploding) while hordes of enemies come at you little more detailed than L4D but same idea))
>try to play duo with a buddy who also decided to try the game free>our third death, he's already whining andcready to quit>meanwhile I've died like 50 times at least in solo queue but never once felt frustrated. Every time I got killed I felt like I deserved it and it increased my knowledge of the gameAm I just mentally ill? Yeah we die quick but that's cuz we're new and learning, we just need to think of a strategy. The one grievance I share with him are long wait times between matches...
>>569530553I think it just means he's not used to the friction of dying. Think about most MP games, shooters especially. The punishment for death is your lose a spawn ticket and twiddle your dick for 15 seconds. Maybe if you're autistic about your k/d you'd notice that too.
>>569530553It's a mindset thing. How often does your buddy play games where you die repeatedly?
>>569529976Ahh that's got to be it, bungie's fault then not mine. fucking bungie.
>>569528853all the mobility options kind of go completely against "stealth extraction shooter". game is sort of schizophrenic that way but it works for me
>>569532134bhopping is just autism shit the mechanical advantage of shaving off a hundreth of a fraction of excess heat is so minimal, just upgrade your heat capacity lmao.
>>569532385depends. if you get momentum especially from slopes you are saving a lot of heat buildup
Is an invincible snipe bot supposed to be up here on night marsh?
>>569532584I don't think the snipe bot is supposed to be invincible, but that's the only thing inaccurate about what you said.
>>569532806>I don't think the snipe bot is supposed to be invincibleThere are three separate matches I ran into it and it was invincible. Shooting it would make the green shield glow but zero damage, the shield wouldn't break, nothing at all. Grenades, melee, Destroyer ult, just completely invincible.It also teleports and shoots through the sloped roof on that building. I swear this is trolly design or some insane bug
>>569532584Need a Recon or Sentinel to use one of their class skills to knock it out of being immortal. For whatever fucking reason those UESC Snipers have a chance of just not dying unless a class specific ability can knock them out of it; not sure if the Thief Drone would work.
>>569532584I've noticed the Scouts (the sniper bots) in particular seem to bug out a lot and become unkillable but can still snipe at you.
>>569533040This is absolutely a bug and I can't fathom why it hasn't been fixed.
>>569532584i've died to this exact sniper bot in this exact location so i have to assume yes
>>569523973UESC 5 credit crates, also container hacks
>>569534401I can't find the fucking things in like 6 runs now. I've been all over the place and only seen a couple of the 1 credit boxes
>>569534542some i've found:>intersection west building>quarantine bottom and mid floors>algae basement hall + rooms>north greenhouse buildings
>>569534542I think it's intersection - underneath there's an area with a handful of crates
Really hoping this game goes long enough that we get a proper city center map, I think street fighting would be cool
>>569535264Didn't New Cascadia have like 30k people maxThe colony wouldn't have proper cities
>>569535264It's really strange they worked on this for years and the best they could do for season 2 was a night version. I'm not saying we need a ton of new maps.. games like this work by playing off of map knowledge but it is kinda weird
>>569535434Okay what if it was like two megablock complexes that you could move between? Lots of verticality and each floor had tons of rooms that all snaked into each other and nooks.
I maxed out energy first, then did 3 quarters of the way of endurance until i hit the skillNext i went dexterity because im tired of niggers looting my shit and im just 5 skill points in, it takes a few blues + 1 purple to level up one whole levelIm giving up my blue shields even and this shit is getting kinda grindy, no wonder people were giving up their gold stuff>>569535617Sounds like Pinwheel
I haven't sold or broken down a single thing the whole time I've, am I messing up? I feel like I might need those items and I can just level cradle the normal way
Arc Raiders has that sand level with the destroyed buildings it's the most city like level and could work for MarathonMy issue with Arc Raiders maps is that they become running simulators and in the PVE servers you barely fight anyone and just go around running like a retard instead of shooting, gets kinda boring fast. This is why I fucking loathe perimeter is such a boring and ugly ahh map that I blame it singlehandedly for giving normies a bad first impression of this game
>>569537228that's kinda weird. just from daily free stuff/contracts and the occasional exfil I am constantly at max capacity. donated 10 shields alone to cradle yesterday
Teamed up with a guy in solos to do that first sekgen quest, we both got one tapped by a railgun headshot.
>>569537228Feed the worms dude. You need those buffs.
>people are actually trying to do some gay crouch spam tech to displace their hitbox
>>569539319I'm displacing the hitbox of my cock inside your mom's pussy
I just realised somethingTriage is quite literally modelled after a NIGGER, have you seen his zesty thicc lips?
>>569535456Cryo must have taken a ridiculous amount of resources for like 2000 people to even play it
What kind of twist do you think they could give to Outpost and Perimeter?
>>569539760>Didn't look at his Arachine fitWhy is /mg/ full of racist single neuron posters?
>>569539941Night Perimeter - more tick enemies, including a giant tick monster.Day Outpost with no fire rain but a LOT of UESC and gun drones.I would rather get a salt flats map - that shit you see in the distance on the Outpost Map. Lots of wind, lightning hazard, and that desolate lunar/martian terrain.Planet is big, plenty of places to go to.
>>569539941Reverse outpost: Teams start on pinwheel, solve a puzzle then fight a boss to get out, then the good loot is on every bulding surrounding pinwheel
>>569535456>>569539794This really bugs me too. They not only spent 5+ Years but asked for an extension from Sony for a year or two as well and it equated to four awful maps, Cryo, and little to no content after Season 1.We do the same Season 1 Contract Stories and two, limited contracts for Night Dire Marsh and we don't even get a fucking conclusion cutscene to the contracts like we do with other primary ones.Literally, all we've gotten for Season 2 is a Night Time version of Dire Marsh, some giant boxes that make a rectangular boxes open up to show where loot is, zombies that rarely spawn that are pieces of Runner models stitched together painted white and blue and floating reverberating fart clouds that might spawn on the edges of the map and a upstairs to Complex in Night Marsh.There's 300 to 500 people working on this game and they're getting whatevers left from the Destiny 2 team after their layoffsIts fucked.
>>569532584I think if he gets alerted he start drifting in the corner and get stuck there, if you manage to hit his real hitbox he unfuck itself recon bot goes to the "real" position
>>569540410I want to have a map around that waterfall in the skybox mountain in Perimeter tbqf
heard ur loud-ass cloak noise
>already running into tons of purple shields in solosWell it was fun while it lasted.
>>569540873Matathon on switch 2 would add another 200k
>>569541296JOKES ON YOU I MAXXED OUT MY MELEE DAMAGE
>>569540873All marathon would need to break even would be 4 million copies sold and for every single player to buy the battlepass once
>>569541340Nintenbabies are to wired to getting the billionth reiteration of Mario and Princess Peach to ever bother with another game.
>>569541625I actually considered buying the battlepass for season 2 because of the shell skins...
>>569541797I did, the Assassin unique shell is a Cyberpunk/Bladerunner Noir vibe and its a full leather cloak and his right arm is see-through dark orange like the orange chainsaw from Lego minifiguresI would honest to god bankrupt myself if they released those 90's seethrough plastic we had for N64 and Gameboys but in Runner looks
>>569541625I can see the game slowly but comfortably breaking even if Bungie stays locked in on skins. S2 is a massive improvement.
Tried out the Nvidia frame generation and it works like a charm. Slightly over doubled my frame rate with almost no ghosting. There are stutters on entering menus, though.
>>569542826>Can't see cloaked opponents because the AI can't predict invisible enemies
>>569536564Literally me waiting for you underground
Still keeping at the free week. I'll admit that it's starting to grow on me. I had a good round in my first run of the third map - even though I kept getting downed like an idiot I was running with a trio who were helpful and we extracted at the very last minute.>>569473887I really like the style of the game if I'm honest, that was the main draw. The aesthetics are killer. I'd kill for an SP game with the same vibes.
>>569542826i wish they'd do something about the CONSTANT stuttering and hitching
>>569522151>is there a pve only modeRope yourself, shitter>>569517208>t is Outpost considered the worst map?Yes, it's brown and gray, looks like shit and doesn't have enough open space
OH FUCK I JUST REALISED SOMETHINGCRADDLE BASED MATCH MAKING
Was this changed? Don't remember it requiring me to go to 2 different zones.
Outpost is the best map, it's the map that had the most changes and most controversiesRemember how fucking scary was to get into pinwheel or seeing it open and wondering who was up there and how strong they were
>>569501157>>if they're dead with no enemy deaths? wait in a corner 100m away and come back after a few minutes and try to rez.Exfil without them, fuck them. Keep your stuff
>chart’s already getting bungie’d three days into s2>game is literally free and they can’t even give it awaymaintenance mode coming in March of next year
>>569541048That would be nice. I like that waterfall too.
>>569545147>>569541048There's a waterfall in perimeter?
>>569544324You will stop getting carried soon. And will call the game trash, because you will never win.
>>569544731I need help with what to put when for my Cradle.>Image Related>>569544324Same Anon. My devils adovcate/depression is that this game will become another NeoTokyo and we'll never get a Single-Player game or something like a Left 4 Dead-type game mode
>>569545257Map wise, go to the Southern Outpost outer edge, look up towards the mountains, there's a absolutely beautiful waterfall in the far distance and after it rains it casts a rainbow
>>569545282I mean, probably. But I said I would play it for the rest of the free period, so hopefully if I do I get that before then.
>>569545520dang I never noticed it, I'll have to check it out
>>569545364Recharge probably, you gonna need Recon's ult to survive Cryo
>map select screen doesn't tell you which maps your mission is on anymoreWhy is bungo so retarded
>>569542102transparent runner shells made of jelly with visible organs/organ substitutes would be so fucking cool but they probably won't
>>569545984It'd be fucking awesome, you could see the silk weave through it and everything.Go to Rewards Passes and you can see the skin for Assassin and its arm being transparent, imagine that but for most of the body.Id buy those skins in a heartbeat.
>>569546393>the shape of that "bone"no wonder we can punch out robots lmao
ok this codex entry is pretty cool. it's one of the runner geocaches, a new blue valuable on night marsh
>>569546649The eroguro in these deadrops is kind of insane to see in a AAA game. Unc still got it I guess.
>>569515261>>569515558Why are you playing this game in the first place? The whole point of an extraction shooter is that you can get an advantage with lots of playtime even you suck.
>>569545920it does it's just a lot less noticeable now
>>569546761i didn't really even think about that lmao you're right, maybe it washed right over me because i'm used to that kind of thing
Really disappointed by the lack of new contracts. The game play of just getting upgrades and good loot and shit is nice, and I still need to beat compiler since I joined the game late last season, but come on, only like 2 new priority contracts for the new zone? Maybe this is just me being gay because I am really motivated by the story, but they really couldn't make more story stuff happen? Could they not have recorded enough quests and stuff for like a year or so of gameplay and then dropped it in waves from the vault? Weren't they supposed to have some road map or something? I'm not even a no lifer dude, I play like 6 hours a week or so max.
>>569537228You're gambling missing out on needing gear in the future vs missing out because you don't have enough cradle points now. There is no automatic right answer. My team runs a LOT of runs, and we're super aggressive, so I'm feeding purple gear to cradle now. >>569540793Wouldn't they all just kill each other in the center first?
>>569547164>could Bungie have delivered some text and voiceline content without spending 50 million dollars on middle managers, consultants, and expensive voice actors nobody will noticeno
>>569541321My blatantly cheating teammates are alread at the not bothering to loot the runners they kill anymore. They keep yelling at me>GO, LOOT. FEED NONA YOU FAT SLACKER.loosley translated of course.
Whats the draw to playing this game solo? I normally play solo but I am not really sure why I like playing solo. I don't find trios boring but I find them to be almost too chaotic and it warps the tension I think. I might try them some more.
>>569547905I have no fucking clue. Mental retardation or a getting raped fetish?
>>569545723>But I said I would play it for the rest of the free periodYou should quit right now
Why are people so obsessed with how sweaty some people are at this game? Some mother fuckers are definitely unemployed and playing 12+ hours a day. Which is fine. I am not one of those people. I am a shitter. However, some people feel they should be handed everyone even when playing minimally. What is the right answer here? Also, given human capability, someone playing 12+ hours a day likely has practiced more than someone playing 2 hours a day. or less. So the concept of "THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SWEATIES" seems odd to me. There is nothing to do about them. Just play the game.
>>569547963>getting raped fetishyes but sometimes I am the rapist, too
>>569548214>Why are people so obsessed with how sweaty some people are at this game?Every pvp has this complaint, even games with SBMM. People want to run around like retards and "have fun", but they should start camping and make the game unbearable for movement players
>>569548252Eh, that makes sense actually. I know some people are very personal about their rape and aren't into the gang rape. >>569548214It's the positioning of the game as "hardcore", and their own self image. Anyone better must be a maladapted no life "sweat", that is ruining their fun.
>>569548515I think people don't realize how powerful unemployment is for games. I have never been unemployed but had friends who were. I remember asking a friend "Bro, how the fuck did you grind all this shit out?"(in an MMO). His answer? "Bro, I am literally unemployed and have been for 6 months." I find it hard to be mad at people like that because who are we to tell them what to do in their free time? Getting dunked on by unemployed players is just part and parcel.
>>569547690THE CONTENT IS AS HARD TO IMPLEMENT AS A FUCKING VISUAL NOVEL. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT BUNGIE CANNOT DO BETTER THAN FUCKERS LIKE DDLC OR SLAY THE PRINCESS>RECORD SOME FUCKING VOICE ACTORS TO THEIR IDLE ANIMATION TO TELL US WHERE TO GO AND WHAT TO DO>WRITE SOME CODEX LOGS TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING ON THE PLANET>THROW IN ONE OR TWO SPICY EVENTS IF THEY'RE REALLY FEELING FRISKY THAT REQUIRE MORE TECHNICAL IMPLEMENTATIONTHE MEDIUM THAT THEY USED TO COMMUNICATE THE STORY TO THE PLAYERS LAST SEASON IS NOT DIFFICULT TO REPEATthis is probably my fault for not expecting them to turn into bagjamin fumbleton because I didn't play destiny but still man, jesus
>They disabled soloing survival night marsh>This also disabled Rooking on survival night marsh>Rook still can't go anywhere else so Rook is just fully disabled nowBravo Bungo
after a good 12 hour attempts between solo and trios its just a touch too brutal for me. TTK being damn near instant and my vault constantly empty
>>569549329Wait, does that mean that one Nightmarsh is completely free of other players?
>>569549329I did a sponsored narsh as rook this morning, did this just happen?
>>569549329I've had rooks in sponsored marsh this morning, did this just happen?
>>569548010No, I don't think I will.
>>569549405My vault only has ammo and I have 1.2k on me at SP 32
I like to RP in this game a bit. I was RPing last season as a NuCaloric hired goon. Which faction should I do next? Funnily, the only priority quests I fully completed was Nucaloric lol. I thought about RPing as a Sekuguchi worm gooner or whatever but the Sekuguchi quests actually suck ass. I never actually did the first parasitism quest because I am shit. Its like kill ghosts on a roof and infiltrate pinwheel and exfil or something. Fucking hell. I've never even opened pinwheel myself.
>>569549551>>569549620YEP get in girls, no other team but yours, free loot galore
>>569549405Sounds like you're obsessed with higher skill players, and there simply isn't any way to do something about that. Just play the game.
>Guild Wars 3Will it be more or less woek?
>>569549476>>569549620False alarm, if you have crew fill off you have to turn it back on, then you can Rook solo because bungo spaghettiSolo surv still disabled, happened like an hour ago.
>>569549867Mistell haha>>569549805Can Bungo do anything right?
Fuck all free trial fags
>We have identified some issues affecting the progression systems and loot economy and will be rolling out a few fixes:>Cert containers: Fixing an issue causing more Cert containers to spawn than intended in Night Marsh.>Cradle: Given the increased quality and quantity of loot, we've increased progression costs by 25%.>We are also still tracking down more issues and will be adjusting loot drops globally while we investigate. We want loot to feel rewarding, but also not flood the economy with too many powerful items early in the season.>We'll continue to monitor these systems and feedback closely throughout the season.https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2063018736089772526
>ok all the no lifers maxed out cradle and farmed cert chests>ok nerf it all
>>569552596>>569551781Abuse early, abuse often.
Give us a new shell to team-up with Rook and grief Runners
>>569552958uesc soon brother
>>569551781>>569552596Solo Surv is back, lets see how shit the tier3 cert box spawn rate is now.
>>569537228LOL. You FUCKED UP, you CHUMP. You're paying 25 percent more for all cradle shit going forward.>>569551781
>>569552596Heh. It turns out my no life teammates were right. Well, I wasn't able to get to full gold and expansions, but one thing's for sure. I'm not going to be at a gear disadvantage this season.
>>569550792Why
>>569553131Got 3 tier 3s, which was above average before this "nerf"I think they reduced the number of spawns of the T1 and T2 because they were fucking everywhere but honestly who gives a fuck.Back to farming T3s solo.
>nefing cradle XP alreadySELL SELL SELL SELL SELL YOUR WHOLE VAULT BEFORE IT'S NERFED YOU CAN GET IT BACK EASY
>>569550792nigga your game will flatline without fresh blood
>>569558718I think it's safe to assume if there's no good explanation behind the sentiment it's just a troll.
>>569552596Casualthon WILL continue
>>569551781When does this roll out?
>>569552596>sweats got theirs>now pull the ladder so that anyone else cannot get itFor what purpose.
>>569552958I managed to sneak up on one and stab it to death.I managed to sneak past one and it said "We're watching you" before i stabbed it to death.Seriously, Night Marsh is a horror. ImmSim now!
>marathon back to low 20s at peak east coast timeliterally couldn't even hold players for a full week. this game is actually dead
>>569561086i think thats a lot of f2p players leaving to go play the games shown at summerfest. several of them revealed free open betas.but yes, that is beyond grim for marathon.
>>569560657to look busy, the shadow of Totoki-San's katana blade is looming large over their heads
>>569561086Game is bleeding 3k players a week while being free. Beyond grim.
>>569563027>weekday* woops
What does this purple symbol mean?
>low CCU does not mean anything guys, people didnt stop playing marathon theyre all waiting for S2>muh PoE and Diablo
something must've changed between seasons because there's no way the same people who maintained the game during season 1 are the ones working on season 2everything about season 1 seemed meticulous and deliberate, and if an issue was found they were on that shit within a few hours
>>569528162Newfags dont know what a pinwheel is other than that one dark souls boss.
>>569563246You can duo queue on that map
Rare Bungo W.
>>569563365Yeah that's true, zeigler used to tweet the changes and what they were working on and he's been really quiet
>>569563786Yeah man huge W that season 2 is such a clusterfuck of a launch with 10 gorillion different issues
Tried the repeater for the first time, it kind of fucks actually if you can aim.
>>569564442its worse than the hardline but it is fun.
>play in fill trios>ping my objective>end up following the other 2 as they sprint to the opposite end of the map then find a way to constantly teleport so I'm bamboozled as to where the fuck they are at any given moment>extract with a bunch of high tier loot
>>569563365>>569563838Sony Exects and CEO are sharpening their katanas to kill all the Bungie devsFirst it was the Destiny 2 team and now that Marathon is failing hard its their time.My bet in the next month or two Bungie will close
How would you fix CE Tactical to be more on par with V11?
>>569563365main thing to take into consideration now is that going forward 100% of all developer manpower is dedicated towards attracting an audience that you don't belong to. They don't want new players to get their shit kicked in within the first hour of gameplay, they don't want them to walk away from the game after failing to find high tier loot by the end of their gaming session.>if an issue was found they were on that shit within a few hoursbecause that's all they could do really. I have a feeling they knew sales weren't high and they were doing absolutely everything they could to keep word of mouth very positive. someone made a reddit post complaining about the battle pass? INSTANTLY announce you'll be adding new items later. top streamer just got rekt by chink hackers? INSTANTLY announce you're building new anti-cheat toolsEvidently Marathon's positive word of mouth didn't moved the needle so they're just putting their heads down and working.
>>569565104>V11Hose.>CEPrecise hit machine. Because it is semi-auto, you can actually pull a lot of DPS if you squeeze it right.
>>569565315>How would you fix CE Tactical to be more on par with V11?>"I would swap how they work.">How would you fix V11 to be more on par with CE Tactical?
>>569565298but that's exactly the opposite of what's happening, new players are NOT the ones farming upper complex for golds to feed to their cradle and to take into cryo, they're the ones getting their shit kicked in if one of the no life teams decides to queue into a real match with their borderline exploited loot
>>569565663One you use to magdump ammo in one second as a panic weapon. The other you use to actually kill things. One is a hose, another one is precise.
dog why does this game take so long to load
QUICK LET THEM KEEP THE GAME THEY GOT FOR $14ANYTHING TO STOP BLEEDING PLAYERS
>>569566071You're describing the V11 and the KKV, weren't we talking about the tactical?
did the bot AI get even more retarded? they often just run around aimlessly instead of pushing and try to shoot me through walls
>>569565298>>569565993Different Anon here but I'm not sure what happens next to Marathon.Sony canned Destiny 2 and from the most recent shareholder meeting they streamed live they basically made it sound like they're done with Bungie and expect money from MarathonThe problem is, is that Marathon is a niche sub-genre of the PvP genre of game and it already, in general, has low player base to begin with outside outliers like Arc Raiders.Sony expected more, way more players and that's not what has happened.Now, we're four days into Season 2 with the first day being almost non-existent because their servers exploded. They proceeded to give Season 1 players and compensation kits to players going from Green Kits all the way to Purple Kits. Then, in the past two and a half days we've figured out, because the game was so broken that you could rush Night Marshes PvP-Lite scenario to get all the purple and yellow loot you could ever want; making it so that around 8 to 10k players (I'm using this number as a generalization but also how many players were playing a week or two before Season 1 ended) who now have full vaults of purple and yellows and a capped out, Level 70 Cradle and I'm already starting to see montage videos on YT of streamers and content creators going into Perimeter and normal Dire Marsh where the first few contracts from Season 1 take you to kill everyone else.Any new players they thought they could bring in aren't coming and more then that they're most likely, to varying degrees being chased away by Season 1 players, especially the players who can and went through Night Marsh special map to get all the loot they could possibly want.It's fucked. And that's outside other variables like how boring Perimeter is; how ugly it is for a first map for players. And going on leaked/sources from Bungie devs, Sonys thinking was that by canning Destiny 2 that would bring those players to Marathon but they're to fucking stupid to comprehend that THEY'RE DIFF GENRES
>okay trios is annoying, let's try solo>5min load>poisoned by a flower thingy and finished by another player within 2min of starting the round>5min load>run around a corner and a guy sitting there shoots and kills me within 2m>5min load>get backed into a corner by uesc robots and gunned down within 2mI know it's my fault buti'm so mad
>>569567710Almost nophono actually bought it this way. Only reason Sony conceded is to not get RAPED by a lawsuit.
>>569568563(Probably not everyone who was playing at the end of season 1. I assume there's others like me, who are similarly trash and have not gotten the mythical complex purple and gold loot.)
I think Perimeter is neat.
>>569569148True too but overall the entire flow and economy of this game for Season 2 is dead before it could begin. I do wonder what will happen when Cryo opens.
>>569569268Night Perimeter might be fun; having zombies and anomaly entities bobbin' and weavin through the canyons and sewers
>>569569523God I would fucking love Night Perimeter especially that huge balloon tower thing probably blinking with lights and stuff
>>569567787>CEPrecise, stable, barely any recoil. Not great for magdumping, but its semi-auto, and with right mods it fires as fast as you click and still remains precise. Good range for a pistol too, second to Magnum.>V11Precise bursts, needs recoil control. Can magdump relatively accurately. Chews through ammo very quickly. Worse range than CE because lol burst.>KVVHose.
I swear this game is curing my anxiety. In the past, I'd hear footsteps and immediately stop what I am doing and try to hide. I'd even get an adrenaline rush and still be startled when I encounter the enemy I already heard coming. Die in the gun fight and respawn. Now, after about 100 hours of playing solo, I could get ambushed and turn it around. I jumped down from the hauler ladder and there was an assassin waiting. He shot me first and I still won the duel. My heart didn't even race. My mind has gone from "OH FUCK, THERE IS AN ASSASSIN THERE!!!" to "Oh, there is an assassin there." and I do my best to handle the situation. I for sure still die a lot but my deaths don't feel like I died completely helpless. I went from not liking extraction shooters that much to really enjoying them. The thermodynamics of violence have healed me.
tunnel snakes rule
>>569569691So now that you've made the V11 the D54 what do we do with the D54?
>>569569751Do you know if sentinel defender interception system shoots down vandal prime ability? I was curious about that but never had a chance to try.
>>569568563At this point it's had multiple F2P opportunities and multiple discounts. Absolutely everyone who is interested in Marathon is playing it right now, and it's struggling to hit 30k. We can pin the blame on the loot economy or free kits or whatever, the fact of the matter is that not enough players are showing up to begin with. The genre/art style is just too much for the wider audience.That doesn't necessarily mean that Marathon is going to die, Sony can keep it alive if they really want, but Bungie would need to figure out how to make it work with a dev team of like 50. 400+ devs working on a game like Marathon is just ridiculously unsustainable
>>569569992dunno. it doesn't shoot down the spooky magic missiles the reverb launches on night marsh tho.
>>569569992I'd assume not, since it's an ability and not an equipment. (See, all the things around Recon's drone.)
>>569570182Wait, the sentinel defender drone doesn't stop recon drone? I could have sword I read in a lore entry that the sentinel drone would. Maybe not. I think it also mentioned something about maybe shooting down destroyer missiles too.
So full build melee with presumably knife fight perks just one taps you now? What the fuck?
>>569569960Wait what... oh fuck i got bamboozled.Replace V11 with D54.As for V11 Punch - same shit as CE, just hits a bit harder, has less charge per battery and can hit HARD with overcharge. Thats it.
>>569570328I don't know if defender drone stops recon drone, but I know there was some weirdness about recon drone not counting as 'equipment' last season for certain purposes. Someone mentioned it in a past thread.
>>569570002I personally love the art style myself, I think its the genre whats killing it.Not sure if it would help but pure PvE scenerioes or maps would do it good. Hell Tarkov has those
>>569571292PvE solo/co-op would be great. I am sort of enjoying Night Marsh right now. Rooks are very testy though.
I really don't like the idea of PvE in this game straight up with no loot changing. Because the best play to make is to just farm your gear in PvE and then do PvP. Which seems retarded.
>>569575063Which is why PvP should always be sponsored-kits and ranked only (of different rarities of kits for different challenges/ranks).
>>569575063Yeah it's dead
>>569498959record your game and save clips when you die for review. build awareness through repetition. use nvidia overlay or OBSOBS reportedly has lag issues with Marathon, you may need to adjust.
>>569457051>go to complex>a team is already doing it>leave and find a labs key>return and kill the first team>start the event>recon pings >another blue team is downstairs waiting for uslol.
Marathon worth $27.99? Was hoping it would go down to 20 bucks, but at least it's not 40 I guess.
damn, they cooked on this recon skin.
>>569578278Its definitely worth it but only if you like PVP. If you're planning on PVE only then you'll be in for a rude awakening.
>>569578278You could get a couple hours out of it but the game has lost its identity
>Dire Marsh Day Duos>anomaly fragment spawns pretty much right next to us on Algae Ponds>figure fuck it we only have green shields/mid kits so risk away>grab a Retaliator off an assault because I had found a shield out of a random folio earlier>kill two guys moving to intercept us from Quarantine at West Gate>start the extraction in Quarantine>go up top in case the team we heard earlier from Maintenance was coming>spot them comin up the ladder>down one, partner comes up, we pincer on the remaining Sentinel>grab the temporal fragment and get the fuck outIt's a real shame this thing is fuckin worthless at this low a seasonal level, because this is exactly the kind of high stakes risk I imagine was intended, but never actually pans out that way at higher levels. Though we did rip a blue shield and a cryo 1 key off one of the people who tried to kill us.
There a way to consistently get backpacks on sponsered night marsh?
>>569582391in run? I dont believe so. Ive gotten lucky on UESC drops but that has literally happened once for meimo best way for backpacks is to level up cyac and just buy them
>>569582391Kill blue-shields, pop 3 cert or 5 cert chests.
>Friday night>Free players have contracts for Perimeter and OutpostI wonder if they're all gonna go to sponsored Marsh, so regular maps will be death squads only. I'll replace blue shields with purple, if I find geared up nerds.
Finally got the gang together for a single run, managed to do the sponsor kit > sniper warden loot room on the may as well be PVE playlist, feels good even though the rewards were not quite what people were hyping them up to be
20+ modded SMGs and 30+ of each type of Grenade ready to go
>s2 patch>f2p for an entire week>trailer viewed by millions at sony state of play>extremely positive reviews>friday night weekend bump>still trending downwards and hasnt surpassed its launch day peak where it was unplayable all day save for 2 hourshow do you say c'est fini in japanese?
>>569585402>>trailer viewed by millions at sony state of playSony show was got views from those, who're gonna buy (((cinematic))) non-pvp games. They did not care about the weird-looking shooter. And when they try that shooter, they'll get filtered fast.
>>569585402>how do you say c'est fini in japanese?I dunno what does that mean in Californian
>Find some people that I can regularly play with>They're both awful at PvPI'm going to scream, I'm so eternally tortured. I I can't 1v3 we basically lose.
Kind of wish the regular match time was like 10m longer.
>>569585324this nigga been collecting bullies like he isn't gonna get outshot by a green battle pistol every time
Did the weave worm xp already get nerfed or is ot upcoming?
>>569586763>outshotI don't do gunfights, I always shoot people in the back.
>>569586038>I'm so eternally torturedWhat maps do you play? I'm playing Outpost and Perimeter tonight, if you want to join.
bros...
>>569585324what level is your cradle
>>569587680I can't just abandon them I'm afraid.
>voice in my head tells me to lure the enemy sniper that wounded me inside to reduce the effectiveness of his sniper>it works and I kill himThe voices were right for once. What the hell happened?
>>56958863047, I don't knife, and won't be reviving anyone, all I need is 47.
>>569589141You found them, you said. They're not really your friends, let go of the "guilt" and ditch them. Replace them.
>>569590076huh ok. mine is lower than yours, i can't be assed to play enough so far this season. maybe i'll get more motivation later
Did you guys buy a notorious t-shirt from bungie rewards too or nah
>>569590648I hope you'll have fun, try to enjoy the free trial, mixed lobbies are great.>>569590723No, we're not faggots
>>569590810i am actually a faggot so good eye. more specifically a troon
>>569591247Well trans girls aren't gay to fuck, so we're still not faggots
Time to regain the Arachne rank, almost at VIP now.
>>569591548i actually accidentally got my trans fwb into marathon we play it together now is that faggotry
>>569592305Nah, it's only faggotry when a dude likes men. Tgirls aren't men, they're lesser creatures, just like natural women.
what the fuck?i just had the cube and the lockdown event happen at the same time on Night Marsh
>>569578278I love it.The game requires PvE as a way to supplement PvP. The game flows between the two.
I don’t like that sponsored mode. New players are missing out on the rook antics on outpost and rooks playing night marsh are running a 50/50 on whether the one team in the map will let them share the exfil. I still don’t think Bungie are understanding by what is meant by PvE elements: they’re talking about Destiny elements.
>>569595006Yeah
>>569578278The game is fundamentally for sweaty teams of 3. You missed it when it was 14.
>>569584917The only time my endgame gear teams are playing on regular maps right now was to test out some setups and to facerape evreyone else, not necessarily in that order. More than a few of the other teams are purple geared, much of which is just getting fucking left to rot. Not even rooks to scavenge. Gonna be an opening day cryo fuckfest. >>569589851See red. Leave blue. Listen to the voices. >>569585802Duuude....bogus.
solo red bull night marsh is pretty broken lol
>>569595006Bungie gives no fucks about the rook experience and just sees them as a tool in the first place. They don't really have a vision for a pve experience. They just know they're getting their asses beat, and everyone's bailing. >I still don’t think Bungie are understanding by what is meant by PvE elements: they’re talking about Destiny elements.I think they meetooed all their talented designers a while back, and whoe'vers in charge doesn't know or understand what the fuck they're trying for anyways.
>>569563365>everything about season 1 seemed meticulous and deliberate, and if an issue was found they were on that shit within a few hoursbungie got bored alreadythey are moving resources to a new project.
Do you prefer doing priority contracts solo or with a group? I find success just running solo a ton as opposed to 3s but wanted to get other peoples opinion
>>569560657Not much else could be done without punishing players directly. Better fix it late then never.
>>569563838>he's been really quietNigger, it's been 3 days.
>>569578278Play the game and find out.
I don't deserve this.
>>569598865Sure you do. Just be happy you weren't in my server.
>>569598595Check his twitter you fucking retard
...and the game just fell out of top 50 for revenue.
>rookin it on narsh>do the anomaly>climb on algae roof and see another rook>"yo you friendly?">"yeah, there's a team below us doing anomaly">"aight, i'ma go flank them"kek.
>>569598162prefer solos but if it gets too hairy i'll switch it to trios before tearing my hair out and it usually works out (lobby wipe or kill 2 or three teams and everyone's contracts get done)
>Oh you didnt grind 60 hours a day when the season released?>lol too bad enjoy missing out on 50 cradle levels and 20 gold keysKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUNGIE
so here's two possible locations for 5 UESC credit boxes i've confirmed:>western corner of the long building at intersection, 2nd floor>northern middle bridge of the main hall at maintenance, 2nd floorwhat others are there?
They changed the first Sekiguchi contract so that you don't need to enter the Pinwheel anymore. But I did it anyway.
>>569604204From nothing but a magnum to a blue shield.
>>569597265The director is Joe Ziegler from Valorant, he was brought in half way through development in 2024 after the previous director got fired and he was tasked to take his work (a lite MMO like destiny with extraction elements) and rework and downscale the project. He leaned harder into the extraction genre and combined it with that he knows, hero shooters.
>>569604661I just checked who this Ziegler dude is and before Valorant he was a gameplay designer for League of Legends. The character Ziggs got that name because Riot named him after Ziegler himself what the actual shit
Pretty good for a Perimeter run.
>>569597265A lot of their designers on marathon have credits going back to halo 2. just look up marathon on mobygames and scroll down to design. most of them have credits on the most recent destiny expansions. there’s even one guy who was on Infinite.
I can't into loreWhat is the anomaly anyway?
>>569605778Hey me too!
Are UESC supply crates the ones from the drones?
>>569606546>What is the anomaly anyway?some kinda rupture in space-time that messes with people's minds
Camping on Perimeter. Didn't even loot me. 3 days into the season.
if bungie had anyone good left they’d replace the bloom with spray patterns and shrink the maps down to the POIs and rip off Valorant and save the company
So, who do you pick as a new player going mostly solo (tried trios but its harder)?
>>569607141If you want to maximize your ability to disengage from stuff while learning the game probably Assassin since he can stealth and has on demand smokes to confuse bots and stuff.
STOP FUCKING WITH THE SNIPER ON GREENHOUSE
>>569607389
>trying to do a comfy freekit to wind down >get smoked by a purple shield with a rail gun that one taps meNice. Day 4 of S2 btw.
sorry destiny dad destroyer who didn't want to fight. i just can't be taking any chances.
>>569604406if you can click heads, the magnum fucking slaps. 70+dmg for a headshot, sheeeeeit.
>>569585324lol that 1.6k bully looks ridiculous.
>>569604204I also almost forgot that you need to DCON the thing, not exfil with it.
>>569608247>brings shit>gets shat onEntirely your fault.
going solo in trios seems based.anyone a good solo trio player?
>>569608247lol you can also unlock the railgun day 1 as well. what are you complaining about. this ain't no *** *******
Did they somehow make the recon drone even more retarded for S2?
>>569608920What is this icon on the map?
>>569610291Ovulating ROOK.
>>569610291Supply drop.
>Heading for the exfil beacon near Hauler>Hear birds hear birds from the south>Turn around and go to the North Relay exfil instead>Hear the Hauler exfil beacon activate, meaning that I just avoided a potentially run ending encounterListen for the birds.
i got a gold bully from one of my cert 5 runsthis morning i woke up and saw that they nerfed dire marsh x but they left the 7 cert 5 locations in the open map intact and only nerfed the complex room3 days left to keep getting as many golds as possible for me
>>569611354I only found two 5-cert locations so far >>569603891can you help an anon out, where are the others?
I don't have patience for this, I'll rip some bussies apart and take guns away from hoarders
>>569606490>>569597265>>569604661The game is very clearly cobbled together from multiple failed test projects. If anything this is cautionary tale for the following:>Do not shit where you eat and fuck where you work>Ultra "hardcore gamers" and streamers do not know how to balance and design games and listening to them will doom you>Playtesters are generally retards and don't let them heavily influence your design direction
>>569611995the last one is in intersectionone the left most buildings, the one without a ladderas soon as you go up the stairs to the first floor turn right and the cert 5 box is therealso the AI uplink one is the last one i check because of how you always spawn near maintenance and by the time you get there you prolly already went through 2 of them alreadymax ive opened in a single run has been 3, and you can get gold items if you are lucky, i got 3 from 20 hours of play
>jump a dude looting the key room next to hauler >down him and he cracks my shield>"NOOOO NOT TO A FREEKIT" as I execute himMade me laugh.
>How can we make key templates even more annoying of a mechanic for players to engage with to get shit loot?
>>569613656>NOOOO, I don't want to play the game!
>>569613656Better than having to chase commanders down for fixatives. Now you have a reason to shoot drones.
>>569613656>Xbox buttonsBased controller aimbotter
June 9 will bea monument to all your sins
>>569612105>Playtesterssaid the game was shit doethey were right
>>569613656it used to be 8 on season one lolthey are bad anyway, blue key rooms barely have any purple salvage
I've had like < 10% exfill rate until I started going assassin and plopping down smoke in that bot exfill. It's literally the safest way out wtf.
How much melee damage do you need to kill a turret with a heavy attack?
I'm about to go to regular nigh marsh, camp for 15 minutes next to complex, when a death-squad starts opening the elevator and jumping in, I'll throw 3 maximum damage grenades inside
face to face engagement bros keep losing...
>>569619432He probably wanted competitive play he got it.
>>569612587>you can get gold items if you are lucky, i got 3 from 20 hours of playI opened one just now, it was ass, blue mods. Fuck that
>less players than thursdayholy fucking death spiral batman
>>569620070Skill based PvP filters the average gamer
>>569620070the mythical dead spiral that has been happening for months now? where it was supposed to plummet to triple digits. yeah...
>>569620475pretending to be retarded won't save your game bro, sorry
>>569620607Game won't get season 2 btw. Chuddies told me.
>>569620191Whats the MAU of LoL and CS? Could you expain how they aren't skill based pvp? Can you do it without sounding incsecure?
>>569619871well im doing it for the purple shields anywayim getting 8-10 purples of anything a run
>>569620607i'm not pretending
>>569619432You don't win face to face engagements against superior foes outside of luck taking the wheel,This is true of literally every game ever made and it's universal rule of competition.
>>569620980You don't lose weapons and equipment forever, if you die in CS. You also don't get hit by the environment, rockets from the sky, bots and traps on the ground. Not getting your resources zeroed is a skill, in addition to skill based PvP.Marathon 2026 gets harder the more you die, and you can easily die without doing PvP. Marathon takes more skill
>>569620980>lists games where half the lobby is guaranteed to winJust shut it down...
>>569620980have you actually played those 2 games and Marathon to compare?like, ever even started them up? saw the menu?
>>569621354Have you ever played either of those games? Keeping your resources and snowballing advantages is how all three games work, retard. You're too fucking stupid to figure out why 2 of them have tens of millions of players and Marathon is circling the drain.
>>569621637>Keeping your resources and snowballingThe only thing you're snowballing is semen in your mouth
>>569621835Concession accepted.
>>569620070It's a game designed around the worst most nofun allowed aspects of pvp. It's like making a game meant for cheaters -- you can't possibly expect high player counts. To make matters worse the people they've made the game for will drop it once casual fodder reaches critically low levels so it's not even self-sustaining.
>>569610275I've gotten to the point on only throw in on flat ground if I can; vertical surfaces just seem to make it wrap around any structure or do loops around walls and ceilings
>>569560657To help there courted target audiance.Fuck people with lifes and shit, its their fault for being employed.Game belongs in the shitter, still waiting for my refund.
>>569610275>>569622176The best way to use it still is by throwing it on the ground and if you know Runners are still in the area with the blood spots, aim the bot at those blood spots they will make a b-line to them.
>>569621354mobas are the hardest games to git gud at. its all about knowing how to farm properly, spending money properly, getting the right items for early mid and late game. knowing when to farm, when to gank, when to push the advantage, knowing when to sit back. knowing how to play your hero, the enemies hero and how that relates to your own hero, knowing how to itemize against certain heroes. so much meta knowledge, far more than marathon can possibly ever dream of.
>>569563365They lost hope and just churn out shit for the paycheck before gettin laid off.Dont expect anything going forward, a worker that knows that he will get fired in month wont do shit.
>>569621000based retard
I know when this game will die
Retarded shitter kneels and brings up GTA6 to say "b-but this time Marathon w-will die"
>>569502628That just makes it a PvP game with a hint of PvE instead of a blend.
>>569586038Just tell them they are shit and stop playing woth them.They will jump anyway, like all the shitters did on S1
>>569609372seems like a good way to hate life, unless you just like being a sneaky guy.
>>569623813>peaks at 40kMARATHON>loses 3k players a day starting from day 1ISN'T>Ziegler has gone radio silentDYING!!!
Good game for good players, horrible time for the average JoeFuck average Joe, why should I care
>>569586038If they're nice people and chill to hang with encourage them to play runners like Triage, Recon, and Sentinel.
I wish there was a quick pre-match queuing process. Let me know what my team is going to play as and what they are bringing in.
>>569624262Because soon you'll be playing only with the "good players" and I suspect as a result you'll drop the game.
>>569624480These Anons don't care if that happens. They've said it in previous generals here, if the game dies or they lose interest who cares, they'll move onto another PvP game.
>>569624480And then the "good" players start leaving because the fun part for them is shitting on average Joe. This >>569624262 faggot says "Why should I care?" Without recognizing that Average Joes keep your fucking game alive.
if a vandal goes into cover its because were about to power shot you
>>569624123>>Ziegler has gone radio silentWhy is this a factor? The dev team account is still posting, and he is a part of it. And it's not even true, he last posted on the 2nd of June.
>>569624725He doesnt care about the game, he only cares about getting epic kill clips for his tiktok channel
>>569625075Yeah I lied because I couldn't think of something for the 3rd line. What the fuck are you going to do about it bitch?
>>569624725>and this is why you should only care about playercount!its so funny how contrarianism has led /v/ and /vg/ to only care about the most superficial aspects of gaming.
Did Bungie ever fix Aim Assist and how it worked from Season 1 because it'd be hilarious if they didn't.If no one remembers, JP/CN players learned that Aim Assist in Marathon isn't what you think it is, letting your gun magnetise to an enemy player. Instead it increases the size of your "bullet" "hit register" instead and guns that use the heavy ammo (the grey bullet icon) already has a innate larger "hitbox". So in S1 if you used a weapon that used that ammo and then gave it all the weapon mods that increased Aim Assist suddenly shooting at someones collarbone or chest shots in some cases were registering as headshots
>>569625305I will laugh at you.
>>569625356pretty sure that got fixed fairly early.
>>569625036I find Thief executions to be especially satisfying.
>>569625469Knowing Bungie it's always worth seeing if it came back.
>>569625345For live service shit it does in fact matter.
>>569625558>even tho my assumption was wrong i still want to feel like i was right
>>569625638No? How do you get that perspective from a neutral response from me? My response does not dismiss your claim but accepts it but also stating doesn't hurt to see if it still works while under the assumption it doesn't?Please, go outside and touch grass.
Hi.I only came to this thread to say that if Marathon (2026) was more PvE focused, but not so much like how Destiny is, I would have tried it out.Thank you and God bless.
>>569625345Having players in a PvP focused game is a superficial aspect? By all means explain yourself, I can't wait to see your water-brained explanation.
The game is actually reasonably okay if you drop the entire loot thing, play assassin with some free kit, and just go yolo killing people. Not sure if it's the intended way to play but I'm confident it's the only fun way as far as solo goes.
>>569625827>free kitKnife only starts or no balls
>>569626175Hey that's a good idea might give it a try.
>>569625827>>569626175>>569626280>im bad at the game and need a gimmicky handicap to feel like im good at the game
>>569625827zero to hero runs where you go in with a freekit and kill some poor sod fighting a commander is very fun
>>569625827>it's the only fun way as far as solo goes.yes. so many new players will end up listening desperately for footsteps and ratting only to get dunked on by someone with map knowledge and aggro. its a player behavior that kills enjoyment
So what's the meta now for casuals like me in S2? Rush NuCal VIP then Traxus VIP?
I can't do this sekiguchi intro mission, I keep getting lost and then ganked
>>569629647Gucci gives +5/10/15/??% bonus cradle xp every 10 levels and is easy to grind out. Nucal is still good, traxus doesn't seem that good unless you really want the blue kit.
fresh meme
why does it take like 15 minutes to matchmake into a sponsored night survival with crew fill off
>>569631829Unironically. Have you seen the amount of players playing atm across the world?It's taking me 10mins to find a match 10AM on a Sunday in the East Coast of the United States.We're cooked.
>>569632575the population is so small that here in south america I only get matched with north americans. at least that's a double edged sword.
>>569631829They need to add bot players. Not matched with humans but stick the humans in their own trios, and fill the rest with bots
>>569633168After seeing how the bots behave I am confident they cannot script a player bot.
>>569626519>STOP HAVING FUNReally nigger?
>new (?) SMG looks like my penisAnother plagiarism lawsuit incoming kek
>>569634173>no gold modanon has no balls owned
it's been nearly an hour and I still haven't found a fucking match
>>569621906I have 3 thousand hours on CSBeen playing since GOMarathon is harder and more brutal
>>569635176I didn't ask about playtime and don't care retard your original statement was how skill based pvp filters people, I ask you why very popular games don't count, your faggot response is that stomping scrubs in marathon is somehow harder + loser "i'm g-gud" shit. What kind of stupid bitch thinks posting console achievements you can get against bots means anything. Kill yourself.
game devs can just make a bad game "hard" and they'll have dark souls dicksuckers defending their game forever completely disregarding any assessment of quality separate from challenge
>>569635556?I just entered this threadI just think Marathon is harder than CS
>>569635803nta but marathon is harder, with its massive aim assist, bullet magnetism and easy recoil?
>>569635729what specifically is "bad" to you?
>>569636659the fact that it's hard
>>569637206difficulty has never made people look down on a good game before and marathon isn't the trendsetter
So what cheats/tech are you guys using in night dire marsh to still see clearly without flashlight?
>>569633467>see vandal bot>start shooting from a slightly weird position>It begins a singular 300 foot power slide all around a PoI
Sheesh, poor Bungie, with fans like these, who needs haters? Literally going of their way to chase off new blood.Well, maybe Bungie the company deserves it but Marathon the game doesn't.
>>569638918>in night dire marsh to still see clearly without flashlight?Aim assist
>>569624609>They've said it in previous generals here, if the game dies or they lose interest who cares, they'll move onto another PvP game.>>569639539>fans like these, who needs haters? Literally going of their way to chase off new blood.Who is paying me for taking care of new blood? Why should I be nice to them for free? Bungie, Sony, and new bloods can suck my dick
>>569624480This is what happened with most of this general about a month off from the end of season 1 and it was hilarious.
Servers died again?
>>569639539>build a psychic meat grinder designed at every step of the way to take as much of your time and money as possible>”why can’t you all be nice? respect the art.”If Bungie want what I have, they need to make what I want.
>>569641824Think so, I keep getting disconnects.East Coast here
>>569641872>psychic meat grinderanon this isn't tarkov.
>>569643051No Anon, it's worse than Tarkov. At least in Tarkov and Arc Raiders you have a safety pocket and in Tarkov case they have a full blown PvE Only map of the PvP version of the maps so you can just relax and play.
how the fuck are you supposed to know how to exfil on outpost, i literally got killed in the middle of googling internet guides
>>569643614What part of Outpost?If you're inside the Pinwheel at dead center there's a Exfil Tower that requires a red key. Then, on the outside, there are numerous locations you can leave on and every five minutes a new exfil appears for you to use until the final exfil which is usually right, middle ground level if I recall
The number of solos willing to cooperate or at least not murder me on sight is pretty high this morning.
>>569644332I've disabled voice chat from the very start but I'm starting to warm up to the idea of turning it on. At least in Marathon you die and that's the last you hear of people, its not like in Deadlock where you're stuck in a room with them seething for 50 minutes
>>569643578>it's worse than Tarkov.in the time it takes you to do one run in tarkov you could have done three in marathon. it also takes a fraction of the time to create a loadout. this game respects your time much more.
What's the objective in this game anyway? To what end am I supposed to play and progress?
>>569645407Well, the biggest drive in playing was going through Priority Contracts and learning about what happened to Tau Ceti's colony; at least for me that was one of the, if not biggest drive for me buying the game and going through all the story beats.The problem with this, is that come Season 2 we have two, half completed, limited contracts for Night Marsh. We get two short cutscenes from Traxus and MIDA's AI's respectively and we don't even get a conclusion cutscene from the contracts like we did with other priority ones.Now, the only way to get get any story related information are from codex entries attached to items that have, like, 1% to 5% rate of dropping from *only* Night Marsh and only from specific crates/boxes/enemies; a few only from the Rocket Drone, the upper-levels of Complex (specifically a rare chance from the boxes you can loot from the puzzle rooms and final rooms), an extremely rare one from the Husk and Reverb Fart Cloud each (not the kill one) and apparently, which I just learned last night, there's a few new ones you can only find in the Pin Wheel and the Red Room.We have almost nothing new for the season outside them turning the lights off on Dire Marsh and a stiched together "Husk" enemy from reused Runner and UESC model assets and two new guns you can get rather easily from the Armory.
>>569646159do they not realize that people don't care about this game because it provides no real end goal beyond upgrading your character? the real story is entirely missing, all we have is loreslop
>>569646159I'm in the same boat as a lorefag, my main objective is basically collecting valuables, getting golds, and trying to kill the fucking Compiler without a good trio. Realizing that the contracts for Night Marsh are actually so fucking shallow and empty is a gut punch. Bungie is really such a fucked company because people are discontent at the end of the first week of the new season, and the diehards have nothing to hold onto.
>>569646678100% Agree with you Anon, I can't tell you how much it infuriates me they made the Marathon IP into such a barebones, husk of a game. There is so much they could use from the Marathon IP and Pathways it's fucking insane.I'm the only person left in my circle of friends and acquaintances who were Bungie and Marathon fans from the old games and story; the last two dropped Marathon completely after realizing there was only two, LIMITED contracts for this season.
>>569645035I love that Bingus cat in Marathon so much. Its so cute.>its full rampant AI tooEven better.
>>569623398I didn't play gta5 till it was on sale last year lmao. I'll be in my 50s before I play this game.
>>569645407I think it is different for different people. For me its upgrades to faction trees, faction Priority Contracts to get the storyline, its trash collection, Codex entries, sometimes jolly co-operation.For some others - PvP only.For some others - PvP deathmatch/battle royale.Game fucked up by being designed as PvP with vE being weak.
>>569625356I literally watch tracers from the bully bend around shelves to hit my opponents head lmao
>>569643578>so you can just relax and play.I don't want you to relax, I will shoot you in the back
>>569647648Good thing your opinion is in the minority then
speaking of, how the fuck have there been no words on a safe pocket yet
>>569647786Not in Marathon, 4 out of 5 maps have bloodthirsty pvpers to gape you
>seeing way more teaming solos because nooblets don't know what to doCute but also frustrating when I'm trying to push up on a guy and his butt buddy is there too.
>>569647925>no words on a safe pocket yetThere were statements, Bungie confirmed that your butthole is the safe pocket for my dick
>player numbers are only dropping on the free weekend
Glad we get to be stuck in the fucking barter economy where I STILL have to upgrade fucking everything but all the unemployed niggas were able to just fucking grind this shit and have full vaults of golds and purps while I have grey battle pistols and whatever free kit blues remain. Oh AND it's harder for me to level my cradle now, unlike them, who were able to juice it. Lol! Lmao! Thanks Bungie you incompetent fucking retards.
>>569647925for what? what item do you 'need' a secure container for?
>>569649350Probably the only things that matter, lore items.
>>569649350Salvage, I need to shove these unstable leads up my ass
>>569649193Go back to Destiny 2 Anon, where your dead game stays dead.>27k players is lowYou're a dumbfuck
>10 minutes in queue waiting for trio fill>teammates die 10 seconds into first engagement>i'm the only one who so much as manages to use my abilities>only one who managed to so much as hurt an enemy, let alone eliminate themthis game's hopeless if you somehow manage to have fellow loser friends who have also bought the game and despite having 150 people in my friends list not one of them plays this
I unironically think this game can be saved if they make it solo focused with trios and duos as the meme modes instead of the other way around.
unless you somehow manage to*
rape status?
>refocusing the early game economy more heavily around barter and making schemas need salvage instead of creds is actually making me want to pick up poop and bits of metalIs this what it feels like in Tarkov when you find like a bottle of Zywiec or something?
>>569649620>the game should be solo-focused because i dont have friends
>>569649664gaped, I'm afraid
>>569649508>spend billions on Bungie>spend hundreds of millions on Marathon>can only muster 27k on a free weekend for a major update>Marathon sissy actually thinks this is fineThe rape has only begun
>>569649704the "just have friends" argument doesn't work when the game is a commercial failure
>>569649557>Wait in queue for 10 minutes>Get a Match>Die two minutes into said match>Repeat
111K and I have not redeemed my Reward deluxe kits yet.
>playstation player>open mic>rips a fat fucking billy
>>569649704This game should be solo focused because it's just a shittier BR with the current design
I hate free klitters, bring the purple stuff, so I can gibs me dat.
>>569650049desu I was kind of digging that solos, duos and trios could be in the same lobby. I want them to lean into that more.
>>569649350Salvage or Codex valuables.
being a fan of bungie's games means you will at times be subjected to the jumpscares that are aztecross stream clips where someone expects you to listen to his weird fucking voice
>>569649401Solo queue sponsored Night Marsh.-Also, they fucked up with biostrip spawns - those dont spawn in arms lockers anymore, so there is a serious scarcity issue with biostrips.
>>569650302What's fun is that blocking Anons like this in-game means you don't have to see their dumbasses as a team member or enemy Runner.
>>569649793join the fucking discord chud
>>569647925safe pocket doesn't make much sense in-game; maybe something like a dcon drop-off system for salvage
>>569651015you said it, sis!
>>569650529>What's fun is that blocking Anons like this in-game means you don't have to see their dumbasses as a team memberBlocking only affects Invites. You don't have the option to block someone from being on your team again, dummy.
>tfw got tricked into buying a dying game because the gameplay is actually good but has players actively trying to kill it inside and outside the gameAny other games with this phenomena?
>>569649620Bungie would rather kill the game and their entire studio than lose their imagined status as a "hardcore" dev because they try to get you to join a discord and deal with random idiots
>dump entire magazine of the new SMG into an assassin's head>he lives>kill me with 2 kniveswhat
>>569651160Yes you do you silly goober :)>Constantly block anyone with ttv and or YT in their IGN and stop seeing them permanently
so sony is going to stubbornly keep up this humiliation ritual until bungie creates another smash hit? that could mean funding marathon for 7 years at an extreme loss.
>>569651168overwatch 2
>>569652338They also are refusing doing anything Destiny related, especially now after everyone wants a Destiny 3 and new Destiny content.
>>569649193>3k higher than this time yesterday?
>>569651315>Bungie would rather kill the game and their entire studio than lose their imagined status as a "hardcore" devMy brother on Christ, you're talking about the HALO devs...And its been explained hete, in great detail, that Marathan is the most casual friendly of the modern extraction shooters
I want to rape a cute sissy white marathon fag
>>569652802>My brother on Christyou're a nigger+ these aren't "THE HALO DEVS". A dozen of the original Bungie in a studio with over 1k people that weren't involved is nothing.
>>569652802>What is Arc Raiders for 300 Bob
>>569652526not to be that guy but yesterday looked like it was going to reach a higher peak too but still ended up losing players. dont think today will lose players because its the weekend, it should have a weekend bump but still looking like a rather small bump and might barely crack 40k.
>>569653018Arc Raiders is for bluesky users
>>569653991Then who is Marathon for?
Where are the fucking reverbs mang?
Sorta newfag here, bought the game on launch and played in the closed tests but didn’t mesh well and iced it after a few days. Do most runners seem to play without voice chat? I’ve been running solo, self admittedly none of my friends have any interest in extraction shooters, and I’m getting the vibe that people really just play this like it’s TDM. Like, I’m not trying to be nice to *everyone* I meet- but holy shit man people just sprint at you and hold M1. Don’t we all have contracts to get done? The aggression is kinda disorienting me, I thought people would be avoiding friction unless it was preventing you from completing an objective. Why not work together to benefit each other?
>>569654480Nobody.
>>569654593This game is a battle royale disguised as an extraction shooter. There's literally no real objective beyond having fun killing people.
>>569654593I prefer it. Like as an example: Arc is annoying because if you play passive you're put into a server where 80% of the people also do; so when you run into the people who kos it just feels annoying. Better to have the roles defined
>>569654859.t bungie's biggest fan
I want to rape marasissies so bad
>>569598162Hoping that your team come with you is just too annoying.
>>569654908An interesting approach, for sure. I’m not against it, but it’s taking a bit for me to settle mentally on how to play, yknow? Figured most people would prioritize contracts above mindless killing lol>>569655082Yeah I’ve heard Arc has kinda-sorta devolved into a day care of sorts. Extract shooters feel a lot like old DayZ minus the world persistence, segregating players into PVE and PVP really feels like a fundamental misunderstanding of the genre. I just wish more runners would say something! I doubt my grey and green gear is worth a lot lol, not worth dying over that’s for sure
>>569598162I did all of them solo. To do them with a team you either need a team that are all doing same thing - so pre-made/discord/IRL, or teammates that are WILLING to do them with you. Too often i find differences with team-mates, so i would rather solo everything.
Trio fills is obnoxious because I don't even think people are aware they have quests to do they just load in, run around like retards grabbing shit, getting into fights with bots and drawing the whole map to us. I think a lot of people presume this game is just some kind of TDM thing instead of something that needs even a modicum of coordination.
Any higher level bros know if silencers are more common for barter in the shops? Should I just be hoarding as many KKVs as I can?
>>569657183This is why this games identity clashes so muchThere are things that make it feel more like one type of sub-genre of PvP while there's thing in it that make it feel like another with no real balance for good enough fusion
>>569655468the fun police recon skin has such a puffy crotch
>>569657183It does happen, but I have more games where people try to do quests in a purposeful manner, coordinate, communicate, look out and listen for enemies than not.Sure I also get game where some mute retard loads in with no contract at all, makes a shitton of noise, wanders off 100m from me and the other dude and gets gibbed then disconnects before we can even try to salvage the situation, but these are in minority.
I really like the new armory layout. Everything makes more sense. Only Traxus and Arachne sell guns, for example.
How have they still not fixed the issue where it says people have disconnected after getting KO'd
>>569646159>>569646956This is the problem at the moment with Season 2, it feels to me like the game managed to get scurvy, which would be fine, but its opened up a bunch of wounds and now the season is dying by death of a thousand cuts.The lack of any meaningful story progression kills off the lorefagging or the sense of the game having a point outside of deathmatching. The lack of meaningful mechanical changes to maps, to how people level, to actual changes within the game for substantial stuff to do, as well as giving people a shake-up is killing the seasonal wipe.The introduction of the freekits and the balance changes not even a week into the season is throwing the balance all over the place for progression.The lack of priority contracts or cutscenes or anything makes it pretty hard to care as well with what's been added in from a personal perspective, players do tend to need something to look at or listen to.The level-based matchmaking has completely trumped gear mattering since players are at 2 ends of the gear game.No real stagger to prevent people from immediately queuing into maps with golds and snowballing.
>>569647925Maybe you can DCON one item per match to safety but it will cost you 100,000 credits
>>569658714The new armory is bloated as fuck with every vendor having a bajillion shitty meme implants, and every single item being listed twice for barter/credits. I hate it
Do we know what the VIP upgrades are yet? Buy a bingus from the shop?
>>569656582Contracts give you close to fucking nothing.
Why on earth are people camping maintenance with sentinel to kill the UESC as they get dropped off out front?It's shit money, shit resources and not even that good at level farming since you're waiting for more than half of the already short run.I just know some retard make a "HOW TO MAX OUT UR SEASON 2 LEVEL FAST - WATCH TILL THE END" video.
>>569659241They should get rid of credit purchases from vendors and make it pure barter. Make a flea like in Tarkov for credit purchases.
>>569659931Make a EVE Online style market 100% player driven
>>569659931What's the point of money, then?
>>569660054>introduce player made contracts for items and specific gear with lots of variables, what kind of mods you want on a gun, specific consumes, keys, etc>gives players an incentive to go do stuff and make extra money and maybe some other rewards doing it
>>569659492They give you satisfaction, the most important reward of all
>>569659006100% AnonI wonder if they're self-sabotaging Marathon?
>>569660242To occupy space that useful items in the loot table could be taking on the map
>>569660242To trade for stuff with other players in the player market? Can't you read?
What's the best way to minimize a team's winning chances? Make a lot of noise? Aggro bots every time?
BAKERS!!!11 The..threaddd!1
>>569660807I don't want a player market.
>>569662175just bee urself
How tf did they prioritize a pve mode that ruined the entire loot economy in 2 days over a fun pvp arena mode?
>>569655468I want Vandal to sit on my face
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>>569662175Go in with no items
>>569662401If I'm myself I rush in and die but that's boring I wanna play and be a boat anchor dead weight.
>>569662643>instead or just copying tarkov arena they copied SPT but you can bring items from it to the real game mode
>>569611995They are not a guaranteed spawn. So some legwork is necessary.
>>569662175>start at station>activate alarmed box and supply drop at the same time >don't help with responding bots or players
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>>569652802>imagined