Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9382 - Scourge-volution Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>569620898
Shadow hunched over in the dark crying because he jerked off to the memory of Maria again.
Sal!
I love Tails
Sonic? he powerbottoms Shadow and tops SilverShadow? He'd rather just kiss and frot with Sonic and he also tops SilverSilver is just a sub for both, don't see him topping neither Sonic nor Shadow, just doesn't happen.
>>569655041she looks like she kisses genies the harlot
I hate this placeyou were too busy jerking off to Whisper or talking shit about Silver for the 515th time instead of saving Miia's Creator's rolefuck you all
>>569655090Me too!
>>569654759>>569620898What would the Scourge version of Nicky be like?
>>569655041
>>569655156I don’t care for e-celebs
>>569655156Yeah we are a shameful retarded bunch
>>569655184An incel
>>569655156you don't care, stop lyingNow. Show me your favorite Sonic fan art
>>569655168I want to kiss him as well
>>569655023>Still hasn't figured out that she really wouldn't mind
mobian booby's
Are chilidogs even good?
>>569654534>Sonic Adventure never says or shows Tikal dying.She literally t-poses up to Heaven.
>>569654757I’m not creating an account to download your zip. Plus the link is broken.
>>569655098kek
>>569655156>muh youtuber didn't get some fuckass roleWow! Very important.
>>569654759any news from IGN? no? ok
>>569655527They are alright, nothing compared to a good burger or pizza though
>>569655096Shadow and Sonic double dickign Silver at the same time while kissing
>>569655602come back in december when they announce movie 4 trailer
He's here to stay.
>>569655551Tikal and Chaos float up towards the sky at the end of the story. That's not dying.
>>569655479
>>569655817waoh Mobians standing next to each other doing boring poses.
>>569655156Who cares about an e-whore lmfao
Yume o hagukunda sora o aoginagara Mune o tsukinukeru machi ni wakare o tsugeru Ah kono sekai no futari wa mirai e to susumu Ah ashita no futari no ai wa uchuu no yami o koeru Move in a sky (move in a sky) Shooting a shot (shooting a shot)Dreaming a moon (dreaming a moon) and you get live again.Move in a sky (move in a sky) Shooting a shot (shooting a shot)Dreaming a moon (dreaming a moon) and you get love again.Ah kono sekai no futari wa mirai e to susumu Ah ashita no futari no ai wa uchuu no yami o koeru Ah Wi Wi Jumbo Euria Dom wa aoiroAh Barbarian Binzbean Dom wa akairoYume o hagukunda sora o aoginagara Mune o tsukinukeru machi ni wakare o tsugeru Ah kono sekai no futari wa mirai e to susumu Ah ashita no futari no ai wa uchuu no yami o koeru It was Sega's birthday earlier this week, how does /sthg/ feel about Sega?inb4 fuck Sega.
Are Tangle and Whisper queerbait?
>>569655972I genuinely hate Sega.Unfortunately I'm such a bitch that they can keep stringing me along with promises of a new Crazy Taxi and I'll still believe them.
>>569654674>I'm embarrassed to play a game with funny animal people in it.Most people are, yes.>Should they have just made Sonic a cool looking human instead of a funny cartoon animal?Could've sold better in Japan if he was.
Wake up anon you're not dreaming
>>569656089Yes, because ultimately Ian and Evan should’ve known that SEGA would rinse of their lesbianisms, but still did their bullshit anyway
>>569655737>Tikal and Chaos float up towards the sky at the end of the storyUse your head, anon. What do you think that means?
I want new hairstyles for Sonic in the next game
>>569656182most likely they cancelled all those games dude
123MIKU MIKU BEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM
>>569656373>make retarded assumptions that contradict the story, its logical structure, and its themesNo thanks
>>569656391Hair?
>>569639202Retards like Apple Slipper and those like him are the scum of the fandom. They're a bunch of posers and non-fans who only care about using the franchise as a vessel for their queer identity politics and victim complex. They're the IDW-loving retards that Sonic Team is sadly listening to
>>569656089Genuine shipbait used for but not limited to:>Keeping Whisper in a sad trauma state nearly 24/7>Avoiding writing anything interesting with them>Avoiding character development>Keeping Tangle lame >Keeping them together instead of branching off with other characters>Making Xitter seals clap>Reminding Ian Flynn to not expect someone else to finish what you started just because you got to write for the videogames...And much, much more!
>>569656089Inadvertently yes, unfortunately.>>569656269Nite and Don prove they could have made them a couple if that was the plan from the start, but it wasn't. Unfortunately now they are in too deep.Though I feel like Sega/ST also sees them a close friends too, in the same way Silver and Blaze are. Like why would Whisper be paired with Tangle in Crossworlds and other Japanese promo material if ST didn't see them as a duo?
>>569655562it worked for me, also i didn't need an account
>>569656610yeah, hair
Sega still treats Sonic like shovelware and then makes an AAA fighting Vipers game
>>569656840*throws acid in her face*
>>569656943Ah, a fellow European.
Why is there an Acorn Kingdom Knight in soleanna
>>569656943rude
>>569656840No, I NEED muh dik between Sally's spats!
>>569655562Damn, shouldn't need an account but here's a better link.https://litter.catbox.moe/ki7gnr.zip
>>569656648>They're the IDW-loving retards that Sonic Team is sadly listening toSo they're giving leeway to the pedos who'll prey on the movie kids?
now THAT's dedication to sharing your piss-soaked collection of animal people pornography.
what's their relationship?
It's funny that hundreds of people begging for two years couldn't get Gigi fired but the vtuber was fired overnight
>>569657192I don't know what that anon is on about, I got the link just fine, again thank you
>>569657303
>>569656830Japs don't care about Anime Mickey. They're humans only. It's why their animal girls are always just humans with animal ears and tails. Cartoon animals are for the cutesy kiddy stuff.
Tails sexo
>>569657303???
>>569657441Once again, SoA is based on California.
>>569657441To be fair the same people who wanted the vtuber gone also want Mike Pollock replaced but he's not going anywhere.
>>569657441Leftists will never enforce the rules against one of their own.
>>569654832>She did die. Every guide retelling the events states she died.Where?That GameFAQs guide you read when you were twelve doesn't count...
Overlander jobs to Shadow and Miku
>>569657192Thanks
>>569657215Pretty much. Don't forget that Sega has matched donations to Planned Parenthood and even donated to Mermaids, a so-called charity that grooms children into trooning themselves out and one of Mermaids' trustees spoke in favor of recognizing pedophilia as a sexual or political identity. This is all public and easily accessible info.>>569657441I don't even know if I should stop buying Sonic stuff because of how deeply involved Sega is in progressive politics. The company has completely sold itself out to Blackrock and Vanguard. The CEO is in on the agenda all the way through. It's a problem coming all the way from the top
Free Whisper p0rns for all!https://litter.catbox.moe/2vbapw.zip
>>569657485>edit
>>569658216The SA1 perfect guide
>>569656257This actually looks like a cool stage, I'm excited to play it. I'm wondering what the DLC character for this track will be if Godzilla himself is a stage hazard.
>>569658273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhTWvsJX_Vs
Can't wait till Karmelo Anthony goes to jail and we get BLM riots and hand MAGA the midterms
>>569657192All IDW girls? No IDW boys?
One day Whisper will be written by a whiter who cares and her stupid trauma will be alleviated after a nice 2-issue arc allowing her to not be attached to Tangles hip; then both can be actual characters.
>>569658764No gays allowed
>>569658908Bro this stupid comic has been running for almost ten years, nothing is ever going to fucking happen
>Sonic>Tangle>WhisperThoughts on this trio?
>>569659037but...
>>569658937I’m a straight girl.
>>569635826an actual male amy where he passionately is in love with the aloof female character and about love for all and shit could be entertaining but silver is not meaningfully male amy besides being a duo with blaze. he's just as if not more asexual than sonic.
When are we getting Amy masturbating to an unconscious Sonic in bed.
>>569659358Shinji isn't in the game tho
>>569659148NO BUTS
>>569659121Sonic is completely disconnected from the group after the first few pages where they all comment on the area around them before they split up and the rest of the book is focused on Tangle and Whisper interacting with only some panels showing an isolated Sonic talking to himself before going back to "main story" where Tangle needs to hold Whisper's hand to do anything.
>>569659458You're more likely to get a Tails masterbating to an unconscious Vanilla.
>>569654892>individual fingersCan't believe a throwaway arcade fighting game beat the "next-gen" models a few years later..Speaking of obscure and possibly wrong info, did anyone ever figure out if the "Rocket Metal is Tails' transformable reconnaissance robot" bit was made up by The GHZ, or did it come from a Japanese magazine somewhere?https://www.theghz.com/sonic/stf/stf.htmlUnfortunately, this was the era before fan-wikis cited every other statement, so I never found out if this was fanon or not.
Tails
When are we getting Shadow masturbating to an unconscious Maria in bed.
>>569658908Bonobo tier take
>>569659313who's your favourite sonic character
>>569659578Guess I'd better fill in for him before he gets here then. Alright *ziiiip*
>>569659881You already know its Shadow
>>569659854Monkey recognizes.
>>569645584>>569648532>>569649289>>569650641>>569651497>>569657192>>569658273And just to finish it off, Tangle&Whisper folder. 400MBEnjoy!https://litter.catbox.moe/7tmfr9.zip
It's only January, the anniversary hasn't started yetIt's only February, the anniversary hasn't started yetIt's only March, the anniversary hasn't started yetIt's only April, the anniversary hasn't started yetIt's only May, the anniversary hasn't started yetIt's only June, the anniversary hasn't started yet
>>569654556It's really hard for me to understand the reasoning of Sega here>Make a comic about Silver's future that is clearly not canon, will never appear in the game, and it's just Archie's own thing, like pretty much everything >But please, don't use the name of the rival games because we think those aren't canonLike, why? Who cares? It's even more weird if you consider their contract is going to end soon and Sega probably already decided they are going to move the whole thing to IDW. I don't know. The way Sega and Archie work together has always felt so strange.
>>569659979okay krack
>>569658908Who's your ideal writer for Whisper?
>>569659979Who's the most likely favorite character of women after Shadow?
I have wasted an entire day.
>>569659729Does she get mad that he didn't put it in?
>>569660287Sonic
>>569660096must stay ""on brand"" at all times (that story released when sonic boom was a thing)
>>569660268Hiromu Arakawa
>>569659772I got you anon
>>569659718How about Sonic acting as a mentor to them instead?
>>569660287Silver
>>569660434Sonic doesn't know shit about coping with loss, he never loses
>>569660386Who's your ideal writer for Tangle?
>>569660508>S*lverLeave.
>>569660434Sonic doesnt really mentor people. He just does hos thing and influences and inspires them indirectly.
>>569658764What boys?
>>569660416I've read so many sexual awakening fics of Shadow that this is ic for me
>>569660096>Sega probably already decided they are going to move the whole thing to IDW.That's not how it works. IDW approached them for the license. They don't need the comic to sell the games or merch. They make their bank through the licensing fees IDW has to pay to keep making Sonic comics.
>>569660508Silver is only popular with gay men
>>569660287Amy?>>569660641He kinda mentors Yuuta.
>>569660616Ian Flynn, I won't even care if he just ends up writing her as "Tails but girl" I just want her to be fun again.
>>569660772Just gay men or do bisexuals hate Silver
>>569660303that's what most anons do in this general everyday
>>569660598Neither does Tangle. Jewel isn't dead.>>569660641>Sonic doesnt really mentor people. He just does hos thing and influences and inspires them indirectlyYeah that's what I mean.
>>569660598Sonic literally loses more than anyone else. >>569660783I saw it more as him encouraging him rather than mentoring per se.
>>569658764>>569660679https://litter.catbox.moe/6g6vdh.zip
>>569660641>He just does hosMy boy Sonic got all the bitches and hos
>>569660679>What boys?
>>5696602871. Shadow2. Sonic3. Amy4. Blaze5. Silver
What is your issue with Silver?
>>569660884>38mbOh.
If ST continues to copy off of LoZ that means next game isn't even going to be a different map.
Douge
>>569660013Thank you for taking so much for these. If I knew it was this much probably I would asked for another time. but I am really thankful.
https://x.com/semifreqsonic/status/2063267235104203226?s=46Rouge likes em Big
>>569661103Correct.
Dragofag may be alive, but he'd rather hang around in bluesky than in here.I don't blame him.
>>569660915glad archienic had his whore side retconned
>>569660616Me
>>569661178Fucking skank
>>569660878Legitimate question: what's the difference between encouraging and mentoring?
>>569660772>>569660849silver isn't actually popular with the gays and this meme is only astroturfed to insult him. in actuality his fanbase is split between silvaze shippers (women) and powerscaling/archiefags (men)
>>569661243i can only take this place every couple of months or so, then eventually the autism grates on me too much
>>569661243Damn, only lol you thought can save us now
>>569661103>You have to build your own platforming section to get to floating islands>Also there's an underground section that is completely unfinished and only used for small energy gains.
>>569661103Could you imagine how crushed people would be?Then followed by the copium of shills?God I feel sick thinking about it.Or maybe it’s the mushrooms I ate making me feel that I dunno.
>>569661087>Blazeinsane sneak
>>569661326>What is the difference between encouraging and mentoringYou're smart enough to figure that out.
>>569661353>and powerscaling/archiefags (men)who are gay
>>569661326Mentoring implies some form of active involved coaching and training and junk.Encouragement is just cheering for someone and pushing them to do things they are already doing.I wouldn't call Sonic telling Knuckles "okay then do it and live a little" in Frontiers him mentoring Knuckles for example.
Why Godzilla
How does it feel knowing all Silver's VA are pro LGTB without exception? Nope, they aren't going anywhere :)
>>569660287Knuckles
>>569661103If this happens I'm never playing a new Sonic game and will consider the series dead.
>>569661439blaze is popular with women in terms of blazamy and silvaze but in terms of other stuff silver and shadow probably have more female fans.
>>569661592I don't care?
>>569661439Its what ChatGPT says lol. Don't shoot the messenger.It doesn't shock me given most Silver fangirls like him for shipping with Blaze anyway.
>>569661503powerscalingfags are normie young males. they also make up the majority of normie male shadow and sonic fans too.
I am tired of foids using these characters for emotional masturbation.Go watch a dark fantasy show or read s book. Stop fucking the characters up.
Amy is only popular among trannies not real women
>>569661090He's malformed and never achieved what they set out to do (light Sonic rival) because the idea was shit but they keep shilling him anyways but all it really amounts to is Silvaze jail.
I have a powerscaling questionWho is the bigger slut between Sally and Rouge?
>>569661828Trannies latch onto Sonic and Tails if anything.
>>569661804*crosses arms fatly* sonic is on estro- oestro- es- ladyjuice CHUD
>>569660997The only panel where Starline looks kind of cute, and he is still mogged by rough and tumble in the same panel
>>569661592it doesn't actually matter because all silver ships are fake besides silvaze, for better or for worse.
>>569661919 (Me)I think everyone except like Tails have completely fallen apart as characters I just don't think Silver even made it out of the gate properly formed.
>>569661759silvaze shippers are mostly into silver and use blaze more as a self insert. people who actally obsess over blaze tend to be more into sonaze or blazamy. (even if silvaze ironically respects her character more than those 2)
What is there for a women to like in modern day Amy? She's so fucking boring like what does she even do now?
>>569661571Sure, but Sonic is mentoring Yuuta.
>>569659979>I showed (You) my Shadow folder, post boobshttps://litter.catbox.moe/5ptdke.zip
I just like seeing Silver getting sexually harassed by Fiona in that game and if you could do more of that that would be great thank you
>>569662189>except TailsTailsfags complain all the time about how he is "made to be a bitch and regressed his character" though.
>>569662331Ok, I will.
>>569661919rival is moreso buzzword for mirroring in terms of japanese usage. functionally what he actually was supposed to be is sonic's reincarnation (themtcially, probably not actually) even sonic and silver's bios highlight similar things in sonic channel. and his usage in most plots is basically ''silver lining'' (when everything fails, silver will come)
>>569661163Is fine, caught me at a good time.
>>569662202Its the opposite. Most sonazefags are moids self insert as Sonic and like her for being "no nonsense" and having a high powerlevel for eugenics babies.
>>569661828I mean, she is the girly girl so is not surprising? Like she is pink, anon. I like Amy a lot but I am not that. The weird thing to me is that it seems they are more attached to the male characters if anything, because that way they can draw them with the breast scars to make a point or something.
>>569662452I saw this last night. 11/10 crossover joke.
>>569662018>Only panelWell there is "No" accounting for tastes
>>569662452Could Sonic stop the Third Impact from happening?
>>569662452>Sonic doesn't reciprocate Amy's love because her loves hurt him
>>569661828Some trannies like Amy but they'd rather give Sonic or Tails mastectomy scars and pills and call them trans instead. Plenty of girls like Amy because she's pink and girly and they also like Cream because she's the cute, sweet little daughter-type girl.
>>569662526Lucky me I guess. Thank you for all the images and I hope you have a good weekend, folderanon.
Everyone in Evangelion just want to fuck their mom/dad.You can literally explain the entire plot with just that. Oh yea and I guess some aliens show up.
Please Save My Earth > Evangelion >:(
>>569662202(me)>>569662537these 2 things are both true at once. moids think blaze is a hot tsundere and self insert as sonic. foids think silver is hot and a cutie patotiee then use blaze to play an ideal boyfriend scenario.
Is /sthg/ the only segment of this fandom that realized this franchise is shit
>>569662976luv the franchiseate literally everything elsesimple as
>>569662976Yeah
>>569662976/v/ is very aware that Sonichas been garbage for over a decade.
>>569662976Retro seem to hate everything as well
>>569662537Bullshit. Miijiu and Gabs are Silver fangirls and have stated they don't like Rush.
>>569662976this franchise is for dumb children and always has been, we've simply aged out
>>569662701He would have to get inside an Eva and convince Rei to kill herself
>>569662976Don't speak for me, I love the Sonic franchise
Post Sonic milfs right now.
>>569662962The idea that people who "actually care about Blaze prefer Sonaze" is a sonaze psyop".In reality, Sonazefags try and erase everything about both characters and pretend the series is just Rush to shill the ship. They even erase everything in that game Blaze experiences that isnt related to mirroring Sonic for the ship and give Sonic all credit for her arc.I don't really see Silvazefags fo the reverse by comparison.
>>569663280these characters have never even met
>>569663268
>>569663280this is what idw would be if it wasn't for mandates
>>569662828Gendo just wanted to fuck his wife again (the part about making teenage copies of her was very important for this)
You know who else is for children?My mom!
>>569663350They should
>>569663280
>>569662976I like the series though. Im just comfortable critiquing things I like.
>>569663253Why?
>>569662976It's literally the opposite. /sthg/ was the first place that convinced me there was some good to the Sonic games. /v/ was shitting 24/7 on Sonic when Forces came out. And when Frontiers came out. Until recently /v/ mostly shit on Sonic and used Knuckles and Shadow as meme reaction pics
>>569663128it's not really wrong about sonazefags, but its not really ''the opposite'' for silvaze. both sonaze and silvazefags are generally self inserters that want to fuck the gender they are attracted to.
>>569663280>>569663512I’d ship it
>>569663280Have these two ever interacted in anything official ever? Not even talking about the mainline games, I mean in ANYTHING: comics, blogs, short manga strips, offbeat text boxes in a mobile game, etc.
>>569662976I was happy to find people who actually like the games
>>569661919Silver is like Blaze in how he only has conflict with Sonic initially before just vaguely becoming a Sonic counterpart from another world we never get to see.
>>5696631281. Literally who2. The game itself or Blaze's character and lore in it?
>>569663530The games are fun the characters are cool and cute and the music is nice and the locations are sometimes interesting and creative
>>569663564>/sthg/ was the first place that convinced me there was some good to the Sonic games.You have been listening to the wrong people
>>569663442Okay Gendo and that Bmblonde scientist girl are the only two that don't want to fuck their parents.
>>569662418Yeah it's just weak shit and it leaves a lot to be desired for actually using the character. Sonic's relationships with lots of characters fall apart outside of their debut.>>569662389Tails is a bitch. Metal Sonic is a jobber. That's what the characters are, they don't have an endgame. All of them have a goal or an arc they never really acheive.The only time this would be okay in a franchise like Sonic is a like a non-canon timeskip or something.
>>569660087Didn't they just announce a special 35th anniversary soundtrack release or something?
>>569663340I'm pretty sure that's not true, they don't want her to stop being a princess or a guardian. So they're better than a lot of Knuckles fans.
>>569663670he shows up all the fucking time
>>569663340i mean im not saying sonazefags necessarily understand what sonic or blaze is about either, western sonicfags have media illiteracy in general. though i think in terms of obsession(even if delusional) silvazefags lean more heavily in favoring silver.
>>569663814Yeah and the only new thing in it is a cover of Escape from the City by natewantstobattle
>>569663814yes
>>569661921Well, Sally's dead now so...
>>569663709>I've based my entire personality around a media franchise and can't see it for what it isjust say that next time
>>569663960This is sad>>569664053I won't say that because it's not true. I simply enjoy this series
>>569664053what do you like, anon
>>569663960These fan-dubs are what led to the fandom getting flooded with alphabet activist non-fans
>>569663960We shit on them now because the community are fucking insufferable, but the fan dubs were genuinely perfection in the moment
>>569664156hard liquor and cigarettes
>>569663986>>569664007Well there ya go.
>>569663712I don't know, I didn't open many Sonic Frontiers threads back in the day I admit, but the few I opened always were shitting on the games. The physics. The way the weird looked.With Forces I remember constant threads laughing at Sonic every day.I only started reading positive opinions when I started messing around in /sthg/
>>569663610
>>569663960These fandubs after the SA2 one were so low effort the quality sunk. Imagine one hour and a half and the only memorable joke was memphis tennesse
>>569664167>These fan-dubs are what led to the fandom getting flooded with alphabet activist non-fansYeah...
>>569663960>latinas is the first joke in the silver campaignhow are they not lynched yet
>>569663340Silvazefags ignore Rush and her relationship with Sonic or the most part.>>569663698Both. I've only seen like one Silvazefag care about the Sonic/ Blaze dichotomoy but it's incidental to Silvaze so they don't really care.>>569663340Being counterparts is the point of the character and if you want to actually use Blaze the story involves the emerald pairs and their parallelism.
>>569664252They were always unfunny trash
>>569664252No they were trash and only got popular because it happened during the pandemic and people would watch anything at that time
>>569664328Alfred was the only funny one. I don't care that he's a faggot. Dude's hilarious.
Isn't Silvaze just interdimensional Sonic self cest
>>569663610>>569663280
>>569664448>Being counterparts is the point of the character and if you want to actually use Blaze the story involves the emerald pairs and their parallelism.True but there's still a lot more to her than being a Sonic parallel.
>>569664468>>569664513Easy to say now
>>569664448Blaze doesnt have all that meaningful a relationship with Sonic though. Her relationship is more with Cream and Amy.>being counterparts is the point of the character.Anon, every character is a Sonic counterpart.
>>569663960The Silver campaign was funny and had a lot of high quality animations for a YouTube video. Objectively it was good for Sonic
>>569664595It's japanese incest tragedy
>>569664664It was my opinoin since the second I was exposed to them
>>569664659>True but there's still a lot more to her than being a Sonic parallel.not really
>>569664741>Digimon S2 comes to mind
>>569664667>Blaze doesnt have all that meaningful a relationship with Sonic though.>Her relationship is more with Cream and Amy.lol
>>569664686It fed the "Shadow is a simp for Maria" narrative too much while turning Rouge into a gross bitch
>>569664686That's like saying mass third world immigration is great for your country.
>>569663728i feel like they have a lot of stuff in vault for silver to tie him to the broader lore but idk if they will ever actually use any of it. you dont realize that 06 is a draft.by the way, how would you make sense of silvaze if you were in charge of their direction. whether people think its good, bad, romantic,platonic,siblings,allies whatever sonic team is not going to drop it, and you probably arent going to stop sperging about it either, in that case, whether its romantic or platonic, how would you change their direction? i know you dislike it, but precisely because you dislike it that i am interested in hearing it.as for tails, i think his fault is that he doesn't have a dynamic outside of sonic, people say amy is only about sonic crush but amy actually has a surprising amount of dynamic with other characters so her fanbase is quite analytical and active, whereas tails only has a real dynamic with sonic. heck i find even cream and marine more memorable cuz they have multiple dynamics with others and act more like actual children.
>>569664741like Yasuga no Sora?
>>569664595Yes the Sonic/ Silver/ Blaze/ Eggman Nega mess is metaphysically confused because Sonic Team is retarded.
>>569664924It's great for the people in charge. Not so great for everyone else.
>>569664902>while turning Rouge into a gross bitchShe's just Dr Girlfriend from Venture Bros. The joke is she's a heavy smoker.
>>569664313I don’t think I’ve ever heard an Australian female speak in my life ever and yet I hear Marine as one.… I wonder what my brain is pulling from
>>569664448I f8nd it telling that you are reducing Rush to "Sonic/Blaze/ dichotomy when it ultimately plays very little into her actual character and arc. Its more design mythology really.
>>569664372I hate what this fandom has become. Red to be fans discussing the lore and the gameplay and now it's just a bunch of autistic, self-entitled queers with pride flags in their bios begging for muh representation and inclusion and acting as if the franchise belongs to them
>>569664843Not being the powerfag eugenics allegations. Play the game anon.
>>569664973>Yes the Sonic/ Silver/ Blaze/ Eggman Nega mess is metaphysically confusedIt's not. Eggman Nega didn't make sense as an AU Eggman anyway since he's just a palette swap of him rather than a unique design like Blaze.
>>569665174you play the game
>>569664448i don't even necessarily disagree but sonazefags don't really focus on anything besides making her a horny tsundere for sonic. non shipfags are the only true blaze fans.
>>569665019>Sonic/Blaze/ dichotomy when it ultimately plays very little into her actual character and arc.Did you miss something?
>>569664667>>569664843Silver and Blaze are counterparts to Sonic and each other. Though the each other part is retroactive for Blaze.
>>569665005But Rouge is not like that
>>569664902 Those jokes already existed in the community. They aren't to blame. If Sega didn't made her breat smaller the joke would have been totally different.
>>569665396Blaze and Silver being counterparts is forced and doesn't work.
>>569665437stop being fucking autistic
>>569665512Yet all the teased and most likely relationships are all heterosexual, curious
>>5696655121. Persisting self-delusion2. Persistently deluding othersEnd of presentation.
>>569665015Have you ever seen the show about Steve Irwin's daughter? If not you're brain is just combining female and Aussie you do know together.
>>569665437No shit, dumbass. It's a fucking parody.
>>569665512I feel like this will do irreparable damage to the brand in the long term
>>569665512haha whoops, forgot to insert myself into something, better fix that. oh you have a problem? hmm. curious, homophobe - what else are you guilty of
The one thing harder than convincing people that Silver is cool, is breaking the widespread assumption that Rouge is a slut
What is the Dragon Ball Abridged of Sonic?>Fans make popular fanon interpretations of the story and characters that cause massive damage to the way the entire fandom perceives the franchise
>>569665023I hear you, but it's tough when we're getting slim pickings. Frontiers was already 4 years ago and offered basically nothing in terms of gameplay discussion and only misery in terms of lore.
>>569665721They still should've respected her character
>>569665753Early 2010's youtubers.
>>569665787but muh titan fights
remove T and Q. it's really that simple
>>569665019>I f8nd it telling that you are reducing Rush to "Sonic/Blaze/ dichotomy when it ultimately plays very little into her actual character and arc.When you're baiting it's better to go with acknowledging the truth and veering it somewhere frustrating for believability. When you just go with the complete opposite of the truth everyone just looks at you like you're fresh off the lobotomy table.
>>569665512What's that in the bottom left? Jet? I can only make out goggles.
>>569665753Evan and her treatment of Silver to the point that uwuver is basically canon.
>>569664252I never liked em. I have no idea how they became sonpopular.
>>569665753And Chris chan
>>569665823What character? She's just a walking pair of tits.
>>569665753Archie and IDW, except it's much worse since it's "official"
>>569664942>SilverI disagree I really think they were just throwing fairytale shit at the wall for 06.>SilvazeThe only way to fix Silvaze is by doubling down. Confirm Iblis be inside Blaze and be the reason they can't be together for some reason. This doesn't actually fix their moment to moment interactions but half the characters in this franchise are completely broken as mascot characters and don't really exist without their narrative anyways.>TailsAgreed on Tails. He's always been a weak nothing character.
>>569665976I! HAVE! ANXIETY!!!!!!!!!
>>569665885Those were ass.
could the sonic series work with a character like Ingrid or would people be pissed knowing that even if Eggman somehow overcomes Sonic nd his companions a god will just come and kill his ass for it because they like the world as is and in particular favors the protagonist?
>>569665619What about Topaz and Rouge and that one Japanese comic where Amy calls Blaze cute?Also, queer identity isn't just about relationships, as shown by Neo Metal in the slide.
>>569666049then its not a good example, dumbass
>>569665885Visually engaging, musically bangingGameplay wise, the titan fights sucked.
Amy Rose Blossom-tier shit
>>569665976>half-lid shadow>silver being a crybaby about some trauma>amy being the mom of the group (she's even wearing a bandana: a symbol for female empowerment!!!)>pawsthis image is toxic waste my god
>>569665976CutePeople who can't take anything seriously and can only post on the internet through 5 different irony filters will tell you otherwise
Shadow latinas or Ugandan Knuckles anon?
>>569665512Just remember, this is what the person who says "Sonic would hate you" looks like in real life
>>569664942>amy actually has a surprising amount of dynamic with other charactersShe has to. She's the talk no jutsu hopeful character.
>>569665869I unironically believe that Dorklybits type of humor influenced how people saw Sonic as a desperate old franchise way past its prime
>>569666107tell that to all the 7 year olds who played it
>>569665396Okay but Blaze's actual character has very little to do with Sonic dynamically though.Also a lot of the stuff she has design wise that are meant to make her a Sonic counterpart is redundant with Knuckles.It doesnt serve the character to overemphasize it to the detriment of the rest of her character when its in everything else she has actual substance.
>>569665976>Amy takes over as KWABver's caretakerFinally I can guard my magic rocks in peace
>>569665976This is the type of story the IDW crew would write if there were no mandates.
>>569666336That's fine for them because it's just mashing X with the occasional infinite-hold parry
>>569666318It was. That humor was influenced by reality.
>>569666171Topaz and Rouge were best friends, not lesboids. Amy is not a lesboid just because she said she wanted Blaze to do something cute
>>569665512Neo Metal???Wtf
>>569666171>What about Topaz and RougeTopaz liked that Asian butler and Rouge wanted Knuckles' multidick and probably got it.>that one Japanese comic where Amy calls Blaze cuteJaps call alot of things and people kawaii without wanting to fuck them, dude.
>>569665396>>569666343how would you guys handle silver and blaze conneciton and relationship if you could change their direction, i am curious about the opinions of how people who dislike the pairing can change it to their liking.
>>569666475And they will grow up believing its an all time classic just like you all did with the Adventure games despite them being mediocre
>>569666343>Okay but Blaze's actual character has very little to do with Sonic dynamically though."Very little" yeah no, since it's something important to the character herself.>Also a lot of the stuff she has design wise that are meant to make her a Sonic counterpart is redundant with Knuckles.Doesn't matter.>It doesnt serve the character to overemphasize it to the detriment of the rest of her character when its in everything else she has actual substance.It does, it leads to some hype and comedy throughout the late 00s and early 10s.
>>569666257There's no reason to be upset
>>569666257>half-lid shadowI don't understand
>>569665567Like a lot of things with Silver I think it would work better with a better (or just an) explanation. Silver and Blaze mirror as the Sonics of their worlds share various traits that allow them to innately act in sync.
>>569666171>Topaz and RougeWomen can't be friends? Besides Topaz got with Mr. Tanaka and Rouge had more chemistry with Knuckles.>Amy calling Blaze cutejaps call anything and everything cute, it's why the word "KAWAIIIIII" become a popular meme phrase among weebs
>>569665019The Sonic/ Blaze dichotomy and polar opposite/ magnet motif is allegorical for their relationship which is manifested by the emeralds. The metaphysics between the emeralds mirrors their own relationship (Super Sonic shows Blaze how to become Burning, Burning Blaze restores Sonic, Blaze and the Sol Emeralds restores the Chaos Emeralds) mediates thier relationship.
>>569666563I wouldn't connect them at all. I'd double down on the Rush stuff for Blaze and the future stuff for Silver. Let Silver fight Adult Sage and her army of Metals.
>>569666257Paws?Toxic?
>half lidsSomebody post the Vegeta images
>>569666761She's autistic
>>569665512This is what was broadcasted yesterday?
>>569665976canon in-characterbased
>>569665753Sonic Paradox i suppose is the closest.
Wasn't that robot pirate fuck supposed to be Sol Eggman?
>>569666563Just explain it. Sonic Team needs to just spell things out for people instead of asking them to read between the lines in a fucking children's franchise.
>>569665753Tamers?
>>569665894Did you even play the game?
>>569666761In the games Shadow is usually focused and alert. He doesn't actually do the bored, half-lidded expression often, he doesn't even do it remotely as often as Sonic does.
Tails should canonically impregnate Vanilla.
>>569665976
why does krack hate half lids when he has literally done it in two games
>>569667057Captain Whiskers and the rest of his crew was a creation of Eggman Nega specifically designed to distract Blaze.Also the "Blaze's world is pirates" shit needs to stop, I hate it.
>>569666563I would mandate that they can't interact at all anymore.
>>569667218When will the forced DBZ parallels end
>>569667218Silver's Shadow's son
>>569665976>>569665976I can't help but laugh because these threads have completely ruined my image of Silver lol.
>>569666765>Silver and Blaze mirror as the Sonics of their worlds share various traits that allow them to innately act in sync.They don't share shit.>>569667131It's why the Leon comparisons don't work character-wise. Leon's closer to what Sonic was designed to be, while Shadow’s a Spawn-like tortured soul. His tragedy plagues him forever.
>>569667409Zoomers really think crying is cool.
>>569666257Don't forget>Dadow>>569667218Silver is from 200 fucking years into the future how do people think he can be any of the modern cast's kids?
>>569667225Because fan artists have him do it when he wouldn't do it. When he's being playful and edgy but hasn't started the action yet, go ahead and use half lids. Not Krack btw.
>>569667236>Blaze's world is piratesI'd prefer if Sonic's world was One Piece, and Blaze’s was more fantasy with guilds and shit.
>>569665619What about this?
>>569659129
>>569667073they should release a TailsTube episode on tanabata next month to kill all interest in Silver and Blaze as individual characters
>>569667314never, they've been here since the beginning anon
>>569667602More ic for Shadow to do this
I'M SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>569667502They threw him in a well when he was a baby (after the full reality of having spawned shitver into the world dawned on them) and it turns out that well is a time portal for 200 years in the future so that became his time.
>>569667491>Zoomers really think crying is coolNo we don't. It's just the losers.>>569667603Sonaze is literally tanabata.
>>569663728>Tails is a bitch. Metal Sonic is a jobber. That's what the characters are, they don't have an endgame. All of them have a goal or an arc they never really acheive.>The only time this would be okay in a franchise like Sonic is a like a non-canon timeskip or something.I dont even disagree but Tailsfags cant accept this.
be the change you want to see and draw Rudever now on the whiteboard
>>569667639Shadow is not VegetaSilver is not Trunks
>>569667507>Because fan artists have him do it when he wouldn't do it.Do fan artists have to wait for video games to tell them what expression to draw you psycho bitch
>>569667572Sonic's world is too modern to be One Piece, but Blaze's could have both. Ocean travel seems to be a big thing over there but the actual culture of the Sol Empire isn't explored besides what Blaze's traits say about it.
>>569667491it is, it's all in the execution
>>569666467>>569667218With proper build up, this could be a good story. But fan comics are always way too short. Still, nice quality art all things considered
>>569667639Sonic 2 Sonic and Tails are Saiyan Saga Piccolo and Gohan.https://youtu.be/Cj_9CizolQ4
>>569667793What if I draw Silver getting forcibly sucked off by Fiona while he tries to pry her off with his psychic powers but her succ is too strong
>>569666765They did that and everyone still doesn't get it or doesn't like it.I will say again that enjoying Silvaze means you have to enjoy the thematic wank for its own sake because it has not lore and never actually manifests in a meaningful way. Totally unlike >>569666830 which has actual lore.
>>569667926draw them raping each other
>>569667848Yes, obviously, they wouldn't know what to draw otherwise.
>>569667924DOOODDGEE
>>569667427>They don't share shit.>Strong sense of justice and duty>Firery barely controlled emotions>Self-serious>Diligent types (Sonic Cafe)>Headstrong>Awkward tendencies (albeit for different reasons)>Fight for people's smiles (albeit that was a later Sonic Channel edition for Blaze)
>>569659129>>569667602
>>569667835Both characters are literally listed as inspirations in Shadow and Silver's concept sheets
>>569667879>the actual culture of the Sol Empire isn't explored besides what Blaze's traits say about it.She lives in some European castle right?
>>569665248Blaze barely interacts with Sonic until the end of the game.She is interacting with Cream and Amy for most of it, with them helping her come out of her shell and act be open to the power of friendship while also trying to get her to let Sonic help her.Then they meet and she is annoyed at everyone sucking Sonic's dick and they fightThey resolve the beef and make peace and team up.After Cream gets rescued and the Eggmen team up, Sonic shows Blaze hoe to use the power of friendship to restore the Sol Emeralds Ala SA1. They team up and defeat them, then they seperate with Blaze admitting Sonic is cool.
>>569668112And either behave like their supposed inspirations
https://youtu.be/r8UBoJsuUz8?t=48Kill all Sonicfags
>>569668164Yes, some kind of baroque looking palace.
>>569667879I just wouldn't put too much stock in it. Sonic and crew are always traveling by plane. It makes sense that the Sol Empire is a naval empire (UK, Japan) given their territory seems to be islands, but that's as much as I want to see of it.Side note but a Tails/ Marine airship collab would be sick.
>>569666563I dont have strong feelings about Blaze and Silver interaction.I think the Iblis thing being used in the future has potential to be cool and thats about it.Im actually more interested in Blaze interacting with Amy and Cream really.And Knuckles.
I've never seen so much concentrated autism in a general it's great to observe
>>569668086This applies to Knuckles too though.>>569668112Shadow is superficially Saiyan Saga Vegeta but was retooled as a more Spawn-like character with the Black Arms lore. Vegeta isn't a tortured soul haunted by the death of the girl he loved. He just wants to beat Goku.
>>569668192>ignoring Knuckles even though he interacted with Blaze just as much as AmyJust say you're a fucking yurifag Jesus Christ.
>>569667726No. Silver is a product of the future. Has psychic powers because people evolve them over time and he doens't have Black Arms DNA. Shadow didn't have time to fuck before being blamed for the flames of disaster and getting sealed away.
>>569667491I mean, crying means showing emotion and being vulnerable. Most people in gen z would mock you or weaponize it. So it is pretty cool to drop facade.
>>569664942(me)>>569664942ehh, sonic team repeatedly calls silver ''mysterious'' i think this implies they have stuff in vault for him they probably considered revealing at his own game or some kind of sequel/space to reveal more about him.you can change their interactions to almost anything you want and get away with it. most of the fanbase is only aware of their vague 06 introduction in main games and arent really aware of much else. so you could define it in mainline games.tails is mostly ''iconic'' due to nostalgia/classic factor and because of the warmth of being sonic's best friend. that and being cutesy, i think the newer fans are more into shadow/silver/amy/blaze though.
>>569666691Like? Actually explain it and give examples.
Silvaze is Nega Sonaze
>>569668343Why have the other dimension when her Empire could be an archipelago in Sonic's world?
>>569661103This but the map is SA1's hub world layout exactly and Amy gets the power of IKEA
>>569655184Nicky would be a punk who starts trouble and gets himself into fights a lot and his future self is a lot more meek and takes over Nicky's body to get himself out of the situations his past self put themselves into.
>>569666830>>569667946You're not describing their actual dynamic at all.You're just saying "they both have 7 emeralds associated with them to do a transformation".This is something Shadow and Silver also do with the same emeralds.
>>569668467Shadow's black arms powers are a recessive trait that Silver did not inherit, that's why thet were so many failed attempts at making Shadow before he took shape.The psychic powers activated when he was sent there via well because it's just something in the air.
Why do people continue with the silver is Shadow's son bs when its been deconfirmed so explicitly
guys the next game isn't going to be about any of this
>>569668593If it were up to me and I could reboot the canon I would do that yes.
>>569667924I couldn't see Sonic doing this for Tails...Sonic would approach things more like Sayian Saga Yamcha, just like he did in SA2.
>>569668431>This applies to Knuckles too though.Knuckles doen't fight for the smiles of the people or have duty to anything besides his people. Silver and Blaze specifically mirror each other with similar traits.
>>569667732sonaze sorta is tanabata but i think nishiyama said it was more about power of friendship than romance, whereas silvaze has vague romance undertones that most non shippers miss.
>>569667236>Also the "Blaze's world is pirates" shit needs to stop, I hate it.Why?
>>569668593It probably couldn't be.
>>569668832it's fun and adds much needed depth to both characters
>>569668832Because fuck you, its fun.
>>569668112Shadow and Silver only share base concepts with Vegeta and Trunks. Their personalities are directly opposite of them in most ways.
>>569668832Because yumes like to self-insert as Amy and pretend that they had baby with Shadow who matures to become a time-traveling hero
We've barely seen what Blaze's world has to offer. Sonic's world is full of diverse environments that range from surreal dreamscapes to sci-fi metropolises to dense wilderness. I don't see why Blaze's world can't have this same level of variation and I don't believe that her entire world consists of a bunch of scattered islands. There must be larger continents around just like in Sonic's world.
>>569668987No it doesn't
>>569668916>whereas silvaze has vague romance undertonesThis is pure delusion
Silver doesn't even look like Shadow
>>569668086>>569668896I kinda agree with the other anon. I think this is all contrived and you could do this type of shit with any character pair like Shadow and Surge. It also gets really stupid when Silver & Blaze is the opposite of Sonic & Blaze with no actual lore and the concepts have zero overlap.
one scene of Silver being attracted to Amy is all it would take
>>569669214That's because Shadow is Latino, Silver is an Arab.
>>569668640>his future self is a lot more meek and takes over Nicky's body to get himself out of the situations his past self put themselves into.Then who the fuck is Scourge? Moebius doesn't work like that anyway. The only opposites are their alignments. Scourge isn't Sonic’s opposite but>What if Sonic was evil?
>>569669130Sonic Team said no.
>>569669128What if I self-insert as Shadow and have Maria as my wife who popped out Silver? Would explain the light colored fur on him.
>>569669175maekawa said he ships it and he wrote 06, the game is also about romance for all the other hedgehog + girl trios
>>569668752Silver was born 200 years into the future more than a century after Shadow was sealed away. Silver is an Arctic hedgehog with ears half the size of every other modern hedgehog.
>>569664513SA2 fandub was like 2 years prepandemic, 06 was about 1 year
>>569669134care to elaborate on your wrong opinion?
>>569669308Shadow is a dark Japanese
>>569669354>maekawa said he ships itI don't care
>>569669214Shadow = chest furSilver= chest furSonic= no chest fur
SOLAR FLARE
>>569669404This. He's just another way for Japs to live out their fantasies of fucking Alice from Alice in Wonderland.
>>569669560She taught him what sex means.
Amy mistook Silver for Sonic who looks like Shadow. Therefore, Silver looks like Shadow.
>>569668492>ehh, sonic team repeatedly calls silver ''mysterious'' i think this implies they have stuff in vault for him they probably considered revealing at his own game or some kind of sequel/space to reveal more about him.You are retardedThey call him "mysterious" because they don't know what to do with him
>>569669612Woah based
>>569667073i think the issue is that silvaze is a vaguely romantic dynamic and they actually don't want to make shipping clear to the audience even if theysonic teamstuff like sonic/amy lacking the actual lore it needs really.
>>569669354Meanwhile, Nishiyama, Blaze's creator, doesn't know why Blaze was paired with Silver in the first place. lol
>>569662976No I love Sonic, have done so for 20 years.
>>569669560Since animal people just coexisted with humans since forever maybe, wouldn't every human just see them as another race of people? Wouldn't they fuck? Would Maria be attracted to Shadow and it'd be treated in-universe as no big deal because it's nornal?
>>569669636>kinda mean sometimes>mass murderer with a ks in the billionsAlright
What if the next Sonic game you play as Maria and you get to ride Shadow's dick
>>569669741>i think the issue is that silvaze is a vaguely romantic dynamicNo its not
>>569669781Decontextualized screenshot, it was setup for a joke/reference.
>>569669506Shadow's chest fur like Jet's while Silver's like Storm's and goes around his neck. Also Silver's becomes gold when he goes super and Shadow's doesn't.
>>569669687he was %100 planned to have a game if 06 did not fail
>>569669882Based NIN enjoyer
>>569668832wow, it's almost like fans can ignore canon and do whatever they want
>>569669323>The universe where Sally and Tails are siblings>Their father is Elias named Nigel and married to Rosemary>In the evil universe Sally killed Tails for being competition, then Nine came over and took Elias as an Alias
>>569669636>fights to prove he's better than his rivalHe fights to fulfill Maria's wish. What are you talking about?
>>569669821You can't ponder human x non-human relations twitter will get mad at you for even suggesting it (Sonic kisses human girls)
>>569669912That was 20 years ago
>>569669853maekawa the dude who wrote 06 ships it(he says he does in his twitter). denying things just because you don't like it or it is badly executed/poorly done is part of the problem
>>569669821Yeah basically. There's not too much hinting at it being "taboo". In Jet Black Hedgehog they kind of mildly imply that some people find it disgusting to be that close to an "animal" though.
>>569669882Jesus...
>>569669323the thing is they're both good so having them both become EVUL!!!!!!!!!!! is boring.
>>569670062i DO NOT care
>>569669886>Focusing on the chest fur color change when their super forms are even more similar in everything elseLmao the cope
>>569669882Oh so this cunt gets to keep her job but saying maybe mutilating people is bad is too far
>>569669821>Since animal people just coexisted with humans since forever maybeThere is no proof of this. The Shadow manga implies that the animal people in Sonic's world are seen as just animals and that Maria's views were unusual if not radical.
Silver will never look this manly.
>>569670039that's why i say ''in the vault'' they have shit pre-planned but its hidden.
>>569669636Vegeta looks nothing like Goku tho. Unless you're a racist like Frieza and say all Saiyans look the same.
I'm going to go fap to Tails /ss/
>>569669741Sonic Team is subtle and they've hinted at it. Ian is direct and explained it. Neither matters because Silvaze is still the kind of thematic woo-woo you have to already like in the first place to actually enjoy it.
>>569670232That's more implying Shadow himself is dehumanized though, and plus it took place 50 years ago
>>569669741>>569669853Silver is essentially asexual since he doesn't understand and cares about romance even less than Sonic since he's supposed to be pure. The idea behind his ending in 06 was he didn't understand Blaze and him had more than friendship I think.
>>569670071>they kind of mildly imply that some people find it disgusting to be that close to an "animal" though.Fantasy racism?>>569670149Scourge's Nicky would just be>What if Nicky was Evil?
>>569670241they don't keep shit like that dude, its japan
>>569670232Was Maria the og furry?
>dbz parallelsso does that mean silver fucks an old woman
>>569670210if you didn't care about it you would've ignored me factually stating that sonic team considers it vaguely romantic instead of insisting it is not. sonic team are shipfags but they also don't want to make stuff clear so stuff like sonic/amy and silver/blaze lacks lore compared to more platonic things.
>>569670236Love how Toriyama drew him here
>>569670409someone post that pic of hag Fiona hitting on Silver
>>569670340Blaze did not have romantic feelings for him.
>>569667732>It's just the losers.So zoomers, got it.
Dbz parallel autism is actually fucking cancerBeing inspired by a character does not mean they are that characterShadow does not act like VegetaRouge is not BulmaSonic is not literally Goku
>>569670232>mere lab animalHe was created in a lab using demon alien blood. Characters created in labs in fiction get dehumanized all the time.
>>569670409Who's Shadow's Bulma then?
>>569670226Leftists are incredibly cynical and the only thing they understand is power. They just say whatever they need to in the moment to secure power. Some of this is instinct, some of this is lieing.Leftists want to put half this country into camps.
>Sonic is not literally GokuYea, if he was then he'd sell more.
>>569670596Nobody Kys
>>569669781it doesnt matter since nishiyama is retired and sonic team clearly likes to make them a duo. and like the other anon said this is likely a joke.
>>569670236This desu. Silver, despite being a "future trunks copy," isn't even ten percent as cool as him. I can't explain how or why, it's just a feeling.
>>569670596Apparently Amy in this situation
>>569669882Sega hasn't fired her despite this and just keep doubling down on the shilling of wokeness. Why should I keep giving money to a company that hates me?
>>569670273>Sonic Team is subtleyou guys are painfully stupid
>>569670551>Rouge is not BulmaWho the fuck would ever in a million years say this Bulma may be vapid but she's already way too rich to care about shit like gems
>>569670551cope, DBZ franchise
>>569669872Holy cope
>>569670543i am not sure why you are delusional about the fact sonic team are shipfags. the whole point of 06 is shipfagging not just them.
>>569670783People say it all the time to force shadouge and the silver is Shadow's son bs
>>569670517>>569670409I can't believe Ian Flynn knew exactly how they would ruin Trunks's character
>>569670810And yet you always post only half of it instead of a full screenshot showing everything he said.
>>569670236>Didn't Trunks seem a little...festive to you?>He prefers the company of men>Trunks is a homo...
>>569670783At the start of DB Bulma is scouring the works for the dragon balls. Rouge is a treasure hunter.
>>569670686>Amy
>>569670273when did ian explain silvaze? i thought he said they had a mentor/mentee relationship.i am saying it is thematic woo-woo because they don't want to give celar dynamics and lore to something supposed to be romantic, its the same reason why people think sonamy is a gag instead of something actually intended, if they gave them the full lore they have in their head the romance will be clear and they don't want to do that even if they are shipfags.
>>569670783Shadave (wave) and Shadally (sally) are the closest to Bulma and Vegeta and nobody sane actually wants to defend those ships. Shadouge fans either haven't seen dragon ball or just deliberately ignore the fact that Bulma being an inventor is 100 times more prominent than her looking for the dragon balls.Bulma is also NOT a seductress at ALL. She's a SLUT. She WOULD fuck but she puts guys off with her forwardness.
>>569670686>Apparently Amy in this situationShe's Chi Chi.
>>569670905>youMe?
>>569671005I mean, yeah. The idea is that Bulma and Amy domesticate these wild men and change their ways.
>>569670669That's because Silver being young is overemphasized and he's made into an incompetent baby with a whiny voice. Trunks isn't in the clear either though. He's a complete jobber after his introduction and get uwu'd just as bad as Silver in all the sequel series.
>>569670771They are Japanese idea of "subtle" which is just bashing you over the head with symbolism. Like Rei is Shinji's mom and the Eva units are their moms and LCL fluid is like amniotic fluid and Evangelion is all about leaving the womb which is why Rei has big hand vaginas.
>>569671109>sonic is goku>amy is chichi
why do silver and blaze dominate the conversation in this general despite being largely irrelevant to its future?
>>569670967Bulma's a genius inventor and only searched for the balls to get a boyfriend. She stopped giving a fuck when she got one.
>>569671253>That's because Silver being young is overemphasized and he's made into an incompetent baby with a whiny voice. Trunks isn't in the clear either though. He's a complete jobber after his introduction and get uwu'd just as bad as Silver in all the sequel series.Trunks got it worse than Silver in GT and Super
>>569668593Doesn't that destroy Sonic and Blaze's oh so important dynamic though? The reason Blaze has Sol Emeralds and "her own Eggman" is for the parallel no? Those don't work in the verse if you make her just exist in Sonic's world.
>>569671237There's more to Bulma's character than just that. And Amy doesn't do that for Shadow OR Sonic. Her whole character's about respecting the mundane and domestic to live a life of adventure like Sonic.
>>569671331Tails is Bulma if Bulma never stopped traveling with Goku
Sonic was real for this. https://youtu.be/2jSKyWSvNgg?si=-Sk8-EDVniYZ0XUp
>>569670967>At the start of DB Bulma is scouring the works for the dragon balls. Rouge is a treasure hunter.Bulma isn't a treasure hunter. She wanted the dragon balls so she could get a boyfriend. She wanted some dick because UNLIKE ROUGE she isn't able to get it easily. That's the entire idea. Bulma isn't a femme fetale either.
>>569671070I don't think there is full lore. I think Japanese people just like the woo-woo for its own sake.>when did Ian explain Silvazehere >>569667946
>>569670669Imagine Silver doing this shit
Shadow = VegetaRouge = BulmaSilver = Trunkssimple as
>>569671301its because tanabatafag likes to sperg about silver ruining blaze and talks about silvaze more than actual shippers of that ship. then the replies are other blazefags and silverfags joiining in.i also think sonic team needs to explain what they planned for 06 just so the fanbase can move on from it
>>569669128Why not with Sonic then? It's always Shadow. It's just forced DBZ parallelism.If anything, Silver being a Sonamy child makes more sense for Silver's personality.
>>569671643You have to know absolutely nothing about any of these characters. Silver is the only one here who is a full parallel. Rouge and Bulma act nothing alike.
>>569671583i mean this isn't really outside realm of platonic, it doesn't register to anyone who isn't already into silvaze that it's a romance dynamic. and as long as the fanbase doesnt realize sonic team is full of shipfags they will always cope.
>>569671656>i also think sonic team needs to explain what they planned for 06 just so the fanbase can move on from itOr they should explain what they have planned for the present that way the fanbase isn't constantly looking back trying to find meaning in a franchise that is ultimately devoid of it?
>>569671430>Doesn't that destroy Sonic and Blaze's oh so important dynamic though?Not really. Just have them be the yin and yang that balances the Emeralds or something. Chaos and Order. Born on opposite ends of the Earth keeping it all in balance.
Sonic & Tails are sweet <3
>>569671565Bulma did do what no one in Sonic could do, tamed the bad boy and turned him into the biggest wife guy.
>>569669130It's because ultimately Sonic's world and Blaze's are not equals. Blaze's dimension is a location within the wider Sonic setting, with the dimensional separation being the narrative hook of the location.So it needs some kind of reason to make it particular and worth visiting and caring about.If its just as nebulous and diverse as the main setting, then why even bother with it?
Iizuka:>“So yes, there are some ways that people interpret Shadow that are not how the team is intending,” Iizuka begins. I think the biggest one, if you look online, everyone’s like, ‘Oh, this is Dragon Ball Vegeta.'”>“Vegeta really starts out as an enemy and then later becomes a friend and an ally and kind of, like, fights for justice and trying to save the world and whatnot. Shadow is not like that. I never want him to be like that. Shadow is doing his own thing, he’s not friends with Sonic, and he’s gonna go off and, you know, do whatever he feels is correct or right, or what he needs to do. And it’s not like, ‘Well, okay, we used to be enemies, but we’re friends now. Let’s save the world.’ He’s not that kind of character, and want him to be that kind of character.>“So when people are always online saying, ‘Oh, it’s Vegeta, it’s Vegeta,’ it’s like, it’s not Vegeta,” he laughs.
>>569671583That's not Ian's explanation. This is:>Q:what is Blaze and silver's current dynamic given 06' isn't canon. does she see him as a brother? are they good friends? is it yet to be established?Ian: They are good friends. There's a degree of intrinsic trust between them that neither fully understands but they don't question it either, they just know that they're pretty in sync naturally and they just go with it.Kyle: There's people that are freaking out apparently that 06 is not canon. It literally erased itself from the timeline. That is the story of 06. I mean, I guess it still technically happened, the events of the game did happen. In that case it's still technically canon but nobody remembers it.Ian: Right. The fact that Sonic and Silver meet for the first time in Sonic Rivals is within the context of they forgot everything from 06 so...Before that:>Q:Why do you think Silver and Blaze are always in perfect sync and mirroring each others actions? They have similar dialog like ‘protecting smiles’ from both their 2021 Sonic Channel stories and they sometimes get matching art. This connection isn’t explained much in the games.Ian: Yeah there's supposed to be some kind of link between them but the actual backstory of Blaze and how she fits in with any of it is not well defined. I mean maybe she came to Silver's time and dimension and stuck around for a bit and they became a dynamic duo and then because of the time shenanigans they forgot most of that but they're still intrinsically linked, I don't know. It would be great to get a solid canon answer for that but I don't know what it is.
>>569671583if some insane stuff gets revealed from the vault 10 years later with everyone being delusional about it i will have fun with kishimoto's ''reading between the lines'' foreshadowing.
>>569671720>Silver being a Sonamy child makes more sense for Silver's personality.Silver turning out faggy means Sonic bailed out on him. Single motherhood's a bitch.
The fact that it's a franchise-driving plot point that Bulma doesn't know how to seduce men is proof that Shadougefags don't know anything about Dragon Ball or even Rouge.She said in Sonic Battle that she's fed up with the family shit and hopes she never becomes a mom.
>>569671720>Silver being a Sonamy>Sonic dies to mephiles in 06. in both timelines>Sonic dies and co die in rivals>Sonic dies in the sonic and friends slop (tails tablet was on the ground)>Silver was still alivecan't be
>>569671749Shadow is a based HFOMA enjoyer
>>569672039Sonic Battle is not relevant. Stop pretending its relevant.
>>569671829you have to confront the past to move on from it. sonic team largely doesn't confront the past.
>>569672009>They are good friendsWhy and when?
>>569672172>Thing a character openly said doesn't count but my headcanon does
>>569671720Silver is from the future. He wouldn't be Sonic and Amy's son but rather their descendant who was born generations into the future
>>569665976Silverfags are going to have to accept that this nigga is never going to be cool sooner or later.
>>569671384Future Trunks and present Trunks are two wildly different characters. And no, Super didn't UWU FT. He literally saw his mom get vaporized. There is nothing wrong with him showing emotion after all he's been through.
I don't really get why you'd ship shadouge if you know anything about either. Shadow is a very delicate person underneath the coldness, he isn't the type of person who could tolerate someone he truly loves fucking around or using him.
I'm tired of tanabata shit every single day.
>>569672226Everyone is too OOC in that game for it to be used as some kind of evidence
>>569672028silver isn't ''faggy'' in sonic team canon or outside of idw, although if he was then it just means he took amy's personality traits.
>>569671742>There are no Bulma and Rouge parall-
>>569672172Shadougefags are basically archiefags. They can be told directly that something isn't canon and they will shoot down THE GAMES in the name of their ship>>569672356So your fucking fanfiction is better?
>>569672356It's ic what are you talking about
>>569672271This will have DBZfags bawling
>>569672392Rouge has never done this. When Eggman says she has big boobs she slaps him and gets mad.
>>569672185>you have to confront the past to move on from it.No you don't retard, its a mascot franchise. You can just move on.
>>569672271Future Trunks spent most of his arc crying and lost his entire timeline to bad writing. They also nerfed his muscles into total twinkdom.
>>569671720i think it's because his design with the eye markings and chest fur looks more like shadow. sonic and amy don't have physical traits to explain those.
Fuck off krack
>>569672312>he isn't the type of person who could tolerate someone he truly loves fucking around or using him.Which is why sanitizing Gerald was a mistake. Dude manipulated Shadow’s memories to make him think Maria wanted to destroy the world. He sullied his memory of her. Why wouldn't he hate his guts?
>>569672312Double tsun. They both genuinely care about the other but neither wants to fold.
>>569672392Is this a set up? Bulma had to be forced into this. She wasn't smirking or playful about it. The only times Bulma willfully tries to seduce someone it backfires. It's a literal running joke that she can't do it and the payoff here is that Roshi tricked her into showing off her naked body against her will. Rouge is nothing like this and if you think she is you've never even touched a Sonic game. Rouge also can't be coerced into debasing herself and it's a major part of her character that you would know if you gave a shit about Rouge.
>>569672543Shadouge fag... rouge is not bulma...
>>569672586Damn just like Sonic towards Amy you mean
>>569672536>sonic and amy don't have physical traits to explain those.Because they operate under a different design philosophy.
>>569672509>>569672590Bulma knows she is hot and uses it to take advantage of Roshi. Rouge would never get naked but using her feminine charm to take advantage of males is her thing.
Forget Vegeta dad parallelism. Silver needs a Goten
Shadougefags are starting to sound a lot like Sonurgefags with how they just blindly point at shit
>>569670236Toriyama disliked having to turn all his characters into Fist Of The NorthStar expies but his editors forced him to.
>>569672586Yeah rouge cares so much she attacks him for having ptsd lol
it always comes down to fucking shipping
>>569672742That was Oolong pretending to be Bulma.
Bulma is hotter than Rouge
>>569672754I mean isn't that just Sonic
>>569672742Bulma hates interacting with Roshi what the fu
>>569672921The ass that saved Earth
>>569669636Shadow has Vegeta as a keyword in his design sheets.>>569669972He also has the former. Shadow is allowed to be more than just Maria bot.
>>569672921Love that she gave herself a magic BBL.
>>569672969Why do they all look like faggotsWhy does Shadow have a beard and white ear bitsWhy does Rouge look egyptianThis is a garbage image
Damn Shadougefags are Dragon Ball larpers? Bulma isn't a femme fetale, an battle girl, a treasure hunter, or a seductress, she is insanely insecure about her looks and wants to be desirable and have a boyfriend. Rouge is none of these things. Also, Rouge isn't a 700 IQ inventor who can make a time machine twice.
>>569671301every fag wants their character to get more and silver and blaze fags are at the top of the list of those fags
>>569672196Ian said he doesn't know.
>Provide multiple pieces of evidence for something>I don't believe you because it's not explicitly said soSome of you are real goyim you know that?
Tails is the Bulma of the Sonic series, meaning that Shadow fucks him in the ass
>>569671636It's crazy how with all the DBZ parallels--Silver being FT, Surge and Kit being 17 and 18--no-one has drawn this.
>>569673162Rouge belongs to Knuckles t. vegebulfag
>>569672725i mean they didn't plan silver to be related to anyone besides thematic connections, hes more likely to be born from either some angel creature counterpart to black doom or just some kind of spirit fairy like sonic. but the fanbase wont shut up about it until it gets revealed what he is.
I hate to even participate here but I like how this entire argument hinges on the idea that Shadow would date a girl if she acted like Bulma. I think Shadow would find Bulma insanely annoying. Useful at best for her skills but annoying all the same.
>>569673041Shadow isn't vegeta retard.
>>569671524>respecting*rejecting
>>569673041>He also has the formerHe doesn't give a shit about besting Sonic, dude. He'd prefer to avoid him and when written correctly, the same on Sonic's end. It's just Iizuka trying to force a rivalry that has no reason to exist. Shadow is a Vegeta in terms of iconography. Just like Goku and Vegeta are who you see on posters and box art, Sonic and Shadow are the same. Character AND story-wise, they're nothing alike.
>>569673369Bulma is literally the opposite of what Shadow likes in a woman
you fags just don't see the vision or accept the truth
Uh oh krack melty
>>569673369The only person Shadow has truly deeply cared for is Maria and how similar are Maria and Bulma?
Stop talking about Dragon Ball
>>569672898>>569672963You guys are genuinely coping too hard
>>569673517Read my Shadow x Bulma fanfic and I will
>>569673517DRAGON DEEZ BALLS ACROSS YOUR FACE
>>569673472Yeah I figured. Bulma is open to taunting the idea of messing around with other men even though that's the reason she dumped Yamcha. She isn't unfaithful but she is promiscuous and vein. She's as far from Maria as you can possibly get without being evil.
>>569673162>she is insanely insecure about her looksTo the point she uses the Dragon Balls to keep herself young and enhance her tits and ass.
>>569673298I saw some Surge vs Super Shadow art. In that scenario I feel like Tails is future Gohan who lost a tail.
>>569671832That doesn't work because Sonic is always on the go and doesn't stay in one place.It also undermines the central thesis of the series of freedom if you present order as equally important and meaningful.Also having 14 emerald sin the same verse causes issues. Her being from another dimension is the only reason she really is allowed to have em.
Shadow shows zero interest in rouge ever
>>569671636this is what Gold wants Silver to do to her
>>569673686Ok krack time to take your meds.
>>569673572
>>569673298Because most dbz parallelfags are shippers and only do it for shipping. For every Sonic is Piccolo drawing, there are 20 Vegetadow and Rouge ship pics with Silver being Trunks
>>569673517This is what happens when you pander to animefags. Crossworlds was a mistake
>>569673397Shadow IS Vegeta no matter how many time Iiuzka denies it
>>569672196Sonic Colors DS they work well together.
>>569673572Did you even watch the show?
>>569673762Not krack. Show one time shadow showed interest in roug.e
>Krack Krack KrackAngry Shadouge guy you can't just call everyone who likes Shadow the way he is from the Sonic games Krack
>>569673397IDW Shadow certainly is
>>569673802Being based on a character doesn't mean they are that character you stupid monkey. If you characterize Shadow like Vegeta it becomes ooc as fuck.
okay fine, no shadouge
>>569673910Imagine liking IDW Shadow.
Go back to twitter quork
Don't deny reality.
>>569673814Did you?
>>569673684>That doesn't work because Sonic is always on the go and doesn't stay in one placeHence him representing CHAOS>It also undermines the central thesis of the series of freedom if you present order as equally important and meaningfulIt is though. The issue is authoritarian order like Eggman's. Just as Sonic himself is a positive form of chaos rather than some psycho anarchist.
>>569672526He at least had his mom the first time around, he thought Goku Black killed literally everyone he knows and loves. Remember, he thought Mai died too. On top of that, Black came to present and destroyed what he thought was the only time machine. There is nothing wrong with sulking after that. Also Beerus was about to kill him for breaking godly law
>>569673162>she is insanely insecure about her looksNot really. She is just insecure about them fading in her old age.I agree that the parallels are forced though, but they certainly fit more than goddamn Amy.
>>569673572I'm confused why you keep posting examples of Bulma flirting with men when that's another reason Shadow wouldn't like her. Bulma is supposed to be an analog for Rouge in this scenario? I honestly don't care one way or the other which DBZ character represents which Sonic character but this undermines the idea that Shadow would like her.
>>569674000IDW Shadow is just the writers being honest about his character
>suddenly krack sperging.it is mad.
>>569673910All the worst OOC depictions (especially in IDW) of the characters have come from taking DBZ parallels too far>Waku Waku Redeemnic letting villains go because Goku did it>Seething arrogant asshole Shadow because Android Saga Vegeta>Polite awkward softboi loser Silver because Trunks had hints of that>Tails cowering away from enemies because Saiyan Saga Gohan
>>569673808Seems like they'd be a Sanji and Zoro.https://youtu.be/F1cmTZtpVQw?t=35
You are so autistic quork, try to be subtle next time
so apparently the perfect woman for shadow is a turbowhore who would fuck an omnicidal space demon to buy time
>>569674123I only say both Bulma and Rouge use her feminine charm to get their way. They share a parallel. That's all I said
Alright time for /dbs/ to go back.
>>569674054Yeah. Marathoned OG and Z, filler and all. Twice.
Shadow does care about surpassing Sonic though. Like he held back his Doom Powers against Sonic in Shadow Generations cause he respected their rivalry.
>>569674354I would say the only way this similrity works is that Rouge's flirting also doesn't work but that's because she keeps flirting with freaks like Shadow, Sonic, Espio, and Knuckles who would do anything other than pounce on her. In Bulma's case she legitimately puts off men who aren't Roshi or Vegeta and Dragon Ball isn't a sexless world like Sonic.
>>569672040>>Sonic dies to mephiles in 06. in both timelinesIn the original made up nonexistent timeline he doesn't get to Elise in time. So you made it up.>Sonic dies and co die in rivals???>Sonic dies in the sonic and friends slop (tails tablet was on the ground)???Silver would be a descendant rather than a direct child by sheer time difference alone. That goes for everyone including Shadow.
If Rouge is Bulma, how come we haven't seen her breastfeed on the big screen?
>>569674349>>569673770If only Zamasu learned from the Viltrumites and fixed the mortals by spreading his godly genes.
so you're telling me shadow should marry Wave. The selfish vein short tempered female inventor who is bitchy and dangerous but not evil.
>>569657441Gigi? UNTOUCHABLE.
>>569674667disgusting, I hate the female form
You guys think the reason why the guests don't have voices is because they don't want Sage's VA to be used twice in the same game make people confused?
>>569674620>he doesn't get to Elise in timeHe did. It's a loop. He always went back in time to save her.
>>569674562Knuckles would absolutely pounce her
>>569673789How can you say that when one of the most famous Sonic fanworks is Rise of Nazo?
>>569673397>>569673464see>>569674556
>>569674667that's the cruel twist, she didn't breastfeed Silver, he was a formula kid
Only krack is so adamant against Shadouge and other ships, just ignore her sperging.
Why do people insist on forcing Sonic characters into pre-existing tropes or turning them into copies of other franchise favorites? These are the exact same people who dismiss the real characterization as 'boring.' So your master plan to cure boring is to delete all of the original traits and paste in a different character? Fucking brilliant. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
>>569657441It's because we shout about it here in seclusion.If we wanted anything done, we'd have to be just as obnoxious as them, spamming Sega with DMs and emails.I'm not going to do that because I have a job.
>>569674756Yes, she will settle down and become a perfect wife
>>569674912You cannot try to fire someone under the accusation "I hate gay people". Krack and other cronies have tried that in Twitter time and time again and they all failed because you all come off as hateful chuds and no one wants to listen to you.
We should be making Evangelion comparisons instead
>>569672536I always just saw that as Sonic and Amy doing grooming. Sliver is far in the future anyway so there would generations of others to factor into it anyway.Amy has some precog and Sonic is a hero who can use the emeralds and Chaos Control, as does Silver.
Man I really hate Dragon Ball analogues. They're fun for fanart but it's insane watching people actually discuss this as if Dragon Ball is somehow a template you can use to model how Sonic characters would interact in a given situation. This is also why characterization debates feel like a waste of time. You're arguing with people who think 3 + 3 equals EE because the letter E looks like the number 3.
>>569675031I'm more concerned with Gigi pushing some gay child porn comic in IDW but alright
>>569675031>I hate gay peopleNo it was for celebrating the trans extremist domestic terrorist assasination against Charlie Kirk.
if Sonic is Goku then when did Sonic show off his penis to the camera?
>>569675127Sex ed isn't the same as porn but it's not like a right winger would know that
>>569672561>Dude manipulated Shadow’s memories to make him think Maria wanted to destroy the world.He didn't. He just gave him the imperative to destroy it. We don't see "fake memories". They just get blocked off and shadow fills in the blacks with revenge.Also Gerald only ended up that way because of GUN killing everyone and making him go insane.You're unironically prioritizing the memory of Maria over Maria herself here.
>>569674901Who the hell is krack
I am speechless that someone here just said to ignore Rouge's behavior in Sonic Battle (a videogame in the Sonic franchise that has canon consequences for later games) in favor of Bulma from fucking Dragon Ball a completely different franchise oh my sides
>>569675031Posting a dead body and laughing is hate
Silver is shadamy sonBlaze is son[cat] daughter
>>569675216
>>569675296That's bulmabitch for you. local dbs lolcow is here.
>>569675059DB, MM, and Sonic at least have shared DNA. What does Eva have in common with Sonic before yesterday?
I like the idea of Sally being genuinely heroic and wishing to save everyone, with her using her brains to do this due to lacking the power. Then she encounters Sonic who does have the power to save everyone, but completely rejects the role of a hero.
>>569675267>sex edTrans ideology is not sex ed. Fucking freak.
>>569672590Roshi didn't trick her. Bulma just didn't know she didnt have her pantsu on because Goku took em off while she was a sleep because he was confused why she had no balls when he patted her crotch and took a nap over her.Imagine Vegeta finding out lmao
>>569675390>bringing up dead boogiemenYou weren't there you don't know what you're talking about.
>>569675338Japan knows what's up
>>569675267The book includes toilets overflowing with a soup of blood and shit That is not sexed
>>569675275Our local pedoposter.
>>569675338that's not him showing off, Goku exposed himself several times on purpose
You can tell the one crazy shadouge fag is here because of the krack mentions and bulma obsession
>>569674824no retard
>>569675071i mean if we are being real silver is rrelated to no one but is either some kind of mutated form of angelic black doom counterpart or a fairy spirit thing like sonic. but the fanbase wont shut up until they reveal what silver is.
>>569673397He isn't but Vegeta was obviously an inspiration and that's reflected in the dynamics and thematics of his rivalry with Sonic.The whole being the Ultimate vs normal hedgehog thing, Sonic facing off against a foe who is the same species as him but stronger and needing to level up and lean into nature in order to do so mirrors Goku needing to embrace being a Saiyan as a consequence of meeting Vegeta and fighting him and the low class warrior vs the elite thing they have going on.But that doesn't make Shadow himself Vegeta obviously.
Remember when the medical community forced us to lock us down for COVID and then George Floyd overdosed and that same medical community urged us to go protest the "pandemic of white supremacy"?
>>569675267Why show a 9 year old a dude sucking another dude off? Not even implied, but full on dick in the mouth. Balls dangling and all.
>>569675715Go back to twitter
>>569675652I'm sad to think there can never be a proper remake of Dragon Ball because they wouldn't be able to redo all the nudity and sex jokes
Shadow is a loner like me.
>>569675814Dragon Ball is perfect so there is no need for a remake
>>569673464>He doesn't give a shit about besting Sonic, dude.Sonic Free Riders, Colors DS and Team Sonic Racing and even Shadow generations show otherwise.Shadow even refrains from using Doom powers against him because he sees it as cheating and not making the victory feel real.It's absolute there. You're just trying to erase it for some dumb reason.
>>569675753So only SA2 and nothing else? Maria, the ARK and the Black Arms are bigger parts of Shadow’s character.
>>569674901Something must have gotten into my head to feel a pang of annoyance every time I see this repeated "Krack hates Shadouge" bit. It's not even because it's untrue at this point but because it's repeated one billion times on this general as part of this weird parasocial Krack derangement campaign. I tried to counter argue it and the same thing gets repeated endlessly. I've seen her own art of Shadouge, at least I'm pretty sure that was hers. It's just constant. Do you actually need the entire internet to hate this random girl you disagree with for committing the horrific sin of preferring the in-character version of her favorite character? It just seems psychotic to me>did you know krack posted this on twitter>did you know krack kills people because of this>i NEEED to mention krack>if you agree with her it's because you're krack>she's a jp purist by the way please ignore that sonic is japanese >she also hates troons and that's bad for some reasonover and over and over and over and over againam I being gaslit? Nobody can be this obsessed, right?
>>569675652Goku's chill like that.
>>569675753Shadow is literally the ultimate lifeform, its not a prideful powerlevel thing like the saiyan shit it is literally what he is. Shadow is immortal. That is why he is the ulf.
Fuck off krack, you are so autistic when called out.
>>569673975People recognize how much love Amy has to give and wants to monopolize it and give it to their pet character instead.
me with amyyy
>>569676004>Shadow is literally the ultimate lifeformAccording to who
>>569675943I for one am tired of being accused of being Krack when I discuss the characters as Sega intended.
>>569675793That's what leftists mean when they takk about sex ed. They actually want to teach kids how to have gay sex. They won't admit this so they use terms like "sex ed". But that is their goal. This is a motte and bailet rhetorical technique. They bailey is "sex ed" and the motte is "gay sex instruction manuals for your kids".This is also why woke 2.0 rebranding will fail. They will never compromise on this shit.
>>569675894>Sonic Free Riders, Colors DS and Team Sonic Racing and even Shadow generations show otherwise.Not even mainline, guy. And I don't subscribe to Iizuka's forced dynamic he gave them since it involves having to turn Sonic into Shadow’s SpongeBob to make it work. They're both cool loners, but one is dark and grittier. It's Batman 89 vs The Dark Knight.
>>569674080>Hence him representing CHAOSYou're ignoring the conflict with the thematic anon.We already have Knuckles and the Master Emerald in the main verse already anyway for the "order" thing anyway.
>>569675974Sonic should do the same so he can be free...like the Wind
>>569676059Amy isn't real
>now she's pretending to be multiple posters
>>569676107Everyone involved in project shadow including the president you stupid niggerThe definition of the ultimate lifeform is an immortal
>>569676161In other words, they're pedos.
Which Shadow ship can I post that doesn't cause a melty
>>569674223Real talk.>Tails cowering away from enemies because Saiyan Saga GohanNo that's just Tails being an 8 year old kid. He did it as late as Forces, and frankly in IDW it was way more justified, even as someone who insists Forces wasn't even bad about it.
>>569676146It almost feels pretentious to say at this point that you can get called Krack literally for just mentioning something that happened in a Sonic game pertaining to Shadow. You can get forcefed an entire bibliography of Krack's likes and dislikes just by talking about Shadow and it isn't even Krack who does it. It's her own enemies who hate her so much that they act insane.
>>569676315>The definition of the ultimate lifeform is an immortalThere are jellyfish in the ocean right now that are immortal, are they the ultimate lifeforms?
>>569676161They also try to justify it as "teaching tolerance and acceptance for non-heterosexual couples to kids".
>>569676429Stop replying to yourself krock
>>569675753I don't think that's quite like how SA2's story really went for Sonic and that wasn't how Sonic saw Shadow
>>569674837The you can't say "original timeline" in the same breath.
>>569676386Sonadow
>>569676218>We already have Knuckles and the Master Emerald in the main verse already anyway for the "order" thing anyway.That hasn't been relevant post-SA1. He works better as a treasure hunter from SA2 onward while Blaze is a permanent representative of Order since the universe dies if she isn't.
>>569676594Oc x Canon is basedMore drawfags should do it
>>569676386Shadaria, it's been posted in most threads and doesn't cause melties half as often as other ships
>>569676386>Post Shadria>REEEEE YOURE KRACK AND A DOGFUCKER >Post Shadamy>REEEEE YOURE A HYBRISTOPHILIC SELFINSERTER>Post Shadouge>REEEE YOURE AN ARCHIEFAG PORN ADDICT
>>569674908People that call them boring are coping. In reality, it's because they are too interesting and original if anything.Which is wild given they ultimately aren't that unique in the actual grand scheme.
>>569676315>Everyone involved in project shadow including the presidentThe President wasn't involved. GUN was working solo and covered it up, keeping the president out of the loop.>>569676596Wasn't me.
>>569676509Proving his point
its almost like all shipping is bad
>>569676750Shadow is not a dog.
>>569676509I don't even know where to begin. You will interpret every possible response as Krack trying to astroturf because you hate her so much that you think every bad behavior is something Krack does. You've completely lost it over how she talks about Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>569676858Read the truth of 50 years ago nonfan.
Bruh you're so bad at samefagging lmao
Krack samefagging like a full retard right now
Which Sonic characters would’ve seen the Digital Circus finale in theaters by now?
>>569676794The fact that the fast guy isn't some hyperactive goofball but this chill dude who likes to nap in nature and hang out at the beach IS interesting. It IS different. But hacks always try to remove all the things that make him unique in favor of him being just like the other fast characters.
Krack Derangement Syndrome
>>569676794>In reality, it's because they are too interesting and original if anything.You have got to be kidding me
>>569675746Imo, Silver being part alien doesn't make sense for him thematically. For Shadow it does because he is a scifi space experiment. With Shadow it would feel like doing it just to force a parallel with shadow ham-fistedly.
>>569677165No no, he's right. Refute it.
Samefag lol
>>569677137>The fact that the fast guy isn't some hyperactive goofball but this chill dude who likes to nap in nature and hang out at the beach IS interesting. It IS differentNo it isn't. The Flash already did that long before Sonic existed
>>569677056>Krack
"you are [namefag]" is not a valid counterargument
I'M DOING CRACK COCAINE
>>569675940>So only SA2 and nothing else?It's still in there character. it just isn't focused on in games where Shadow has a major role. I don't think it's as important as that other stuff but it does matter to the conception and point of the character.
New thread please get me out
>>569676794I can honestly tolerate people who aren't satisfied with the canon versions of the characters but it definitely feels like it sometimes. For some reason it only bothers me with Archiedow though. I don't really care about how OOC the various Sonic variants are. I think being born into a world where there was already several of them made me numb to that but "Archiedow is the only good Shadow because he has friends" thing rubs me the wrong way
you guys are pathetic
If you think Rouge isn't Bulma, you are Krack. If someone else agrees with you, you are Krack samefagging.
Shadougeschizo is just her samefagging
and this is to go even further beyond
>>569677446>it just isn't focused on in games where Shadow has a major roleThat logic is retarded. If the games where he has prominence barely acknowledges it, then it isn't important and is largely irrelevant to his character in the grand scheme of things. You don't need him to fight with Sonic to make him work. Shadow works just fine without him.
>>569677618Apparently everyone who likes Shadria is Krack, Krack sounds like an incredible actor because I'm certain there's Shadria fans who do and say things that don't quite suit her.
>>569677762>>569677762>>569677762
>>569677217it wouldn't be an alien but some kind of supernatural fantasy creature. him being sonic and amy's child also doesn't make sense and is probably not intended.
>>569676004>Shadow is literally the ultimate lifeformIt's always in airquotes. In the original game, he insists he is "the one and only ultimate lifeform" up until he fights Sonic. Then in the final boss fight he says Sonic is the Ultimate Lifeform.Shadow stating it is him stating what he believes is a simple fact. But so was Vegeta saying he was a Saiyan elite. Vegeta is actually less arrogant than Goku is up to the point where Goku goes Supersaiyan for the first time, always being matter of fact in thinking smeone is either stronger or weaker with no wiggle room based on powerlevels and station.It isn't until Goku goes Supersaiyan that he gets insecure and then when he gets Supersaiyan himself he gets arrogant, and then again when he gets Grade 2.For as much as people meme about Vegeta being an arrogant character, he isn't actually. it was just a period of time in the story.The perception people have of him being that was is TFS revisionism.
>>569677859maybe he's some kind of anceint chao thing that further mutated into a hedgehog blob
>>569676541Yes it was though. Sonic spends the entire first half of the game seething over Shadow showing him up and wanting to get his runback and then smiles rily when he matches him by learning Chaos Control for their fight. which Shadow agknowledges. Sonic and Shadow have a Clean dynamic of Shadow beign above him and Sonic being below him, with Sonic being the normal hedgehog" and Shadow being the ultimate lifeform" only for Shadow to suggest Sonic must not be a normal hedgehog after all and then finally calling HIM the ULF.
>>569676695>That hasn't been relevant post-SA1Because the whole point of it in SA1 was that "order" is a meme and you just need to embrace chaos in a positive manner rather than negative.Controlled Chaos.The Master Emerald actually does get used again up to Rivals and Advance 3.There isn't a reason to ignore it if you believe something needs to fulfil that thematic.
>>569677137Exactly and I hate it.Every time I see someone try to "fix" the writing, what they are doing is complaining that it doesn't fall rigidly and lazily in line with mainstream tropes and instead does its own thing with it. Every time.Most misinterpretations come from people superimposing them onto the characters as well.but nope.Fast = ADHDcool = asshole who THINKS they are cool but are just an asssmart = technobabble know it all who looks down on everyone and doesn't believe in magicopenly affectionate = creepy stalkeretcits tiring.
>>569677339The flash isn't really like that. he is more just an average responsible joe.
>>569677618I thought we all agreed that was Sally
