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First for Tomoko!
>>569701448I love Miku but hate the 4-tit shirt.Fuckin' monkey paw if true.
>>569701448>>569701730Miku is fine but>Nav>Music override which given P5X's jank will take months if not a year+ to disable>Wasting Persona anniversary on external collab>We already have our Miku quotient filled by a better girl
>>569701573Moko Love!
>>569701573Cute and canon
>>569702776Go back to the Starfail general.
riko won
>>569708347She's about to get powercrept by a nurse slut in a bikini. So, not really.
>>569708173
>>569710168Have you joined the Church of Tomoko Noge yet?
>>569710393I don't reddit, full of fags.
https://www.tumblr.com/persona-game-info/818469827998040064/questions-and-answers-from-the-character-ama>Questions and answers from the character AMA hosted on the official P5X Twitter account for Manaka Nagao
what did she mean by this
>>569713501>UGH GOD I FUCKING LOVE RIKO.>WE ALL LOVE RIKO.>the devs barely disguised Mary Sue bonerThis is awful.
Threadly reminder that Riko's awakening was literally>I didn't realize everyone unconditionally loves me so much!
>>569713501Yukari isn't overly bitchy wtf
>>569714557Every time I see Kayo, I think of her seiyuu and feel sad.
>Annoying shitflinging by vtumors>Same imagedumping by four-eyes leeches>Thread is at a snail pace as a resultRoad to first anniversary everyone, it's littered with leeches.
>>569701730You don’t say…>>569702776AnonAnniversaries don’t actually matter. We also have like 4 of them at different times of the year. And I sure as fuck don’t give a hoot about the taiwan anniversary, I’ll tell you what
>>569714608I cant believe these high school characters have common high school insecurities...
I don't know what they did with Matoi's buffs, but running her with different sweepers she consistently outperforms Turbo A1 vs A1. I assume an A6 Turbo would be better, but that's irrelevant on our server thanks to the jail. Crazy to think. And no, I don't use Throne everytime. He's an OK atk buffer though if dominion is tied up.
>>569718542>We also have like 4 of them at different times of the year.Pretty sure he meant the 30th anniversary of Persona...
>>569723745Pretty sure that's not the case.He's spent the past couple threads comparing Miku to Ange as "anniversary units" so it must be in relation to the game, or that wouldn't make any sense at allAlso the 30 years of persona "event" is an all year thing, And if you're looking at specifically 30 years from the series release - that's in September so nothing close to now factors in at all. Fuuka might be the actual anniversary unit by that metric
>>569714557Is she comparing what she used to wear in her youth to Yukari? Come on, Okyann... Base P3 isn't that ancient...
KOKOKO is so cool
Does anyone else have a permanent ! alert on their profile?My supports are fixed, there's nothing unclaimed.
>>569726927Yeah there’s a bug where you have an exclamation notification on your profile
Can't wait for summer.
>>569734297off-topic redditorfaggot
>>569734448Your entire 2027 gacha line-up is indeed on-topic, anon.
>>569734297Guess Izanagis kit.
>>569737926Electric sweeper as to not powercreep Motoha (sorry Akihiko). I doubt he will be virtuoso since that would be another virtuoso too close to dancing joker.
>>569738405>too closeanon there's not going to be any of them for another year
>>569738903I'm talking about TW you don't genuinely think Yu would be the anni unit with the rest of the collab coming like 6+months later right?
>>569739465Yu or any persona 4 character will not be in the game until mid to late 2027
>>569739673Oh I was confused and thought you were saying they'd be coming soon on TW. That being said if he's even further out it makes it more likely he'll be a sweeper to powercreep Akihiko
>>569734297>no MarieUh oh….
>>569744662>no MargaretUh oh....
Does anyone remember if the alleged leaked Miku character details had healing or not? I was thinking about it and I feel like I don't remember her having any sustain. She wouldn't be the first navi like that but most top tier navis like fuuka/futaba/ange have sustain elements so it would be unique in that it might require active healing
>>569749342and I know you can just heal/shield on wonder but it's something to consider. Personas that can buff/sustain at the same time would be even better
the face she makes here is so erotic..
>>569751945Yukari making that face when she sees you...
>>569751945Ugly bitch cunt
>>569749342The kit that 'leaked' here in the previous thread was entirely divorced from reality. (Miku had a version of Da Capo, useable essentially once per flight, that caused all opponents to skip a turn in addition to all allies getting an extra turn with no buff decay on their next turn, in addition to extra damage dealing, all at A0) But if you go back and look at it, one of the abilities gave everyone a heal over time that would heal 30% of their max HP at the start of their turn for 3 turns. Kit did not resemble a real kit, but it did have a substantial heal over time on it.
>>569745016>no NanakoUh oh....
>>569754879>no buff decayI thought that was just for Miku's buffs not all buffs.>healOh then yeah seemingly giving her everything seems OP although maybe it was designed such that healing ruins the rotation or such
I would rather have Chidori for an anni over Miku>Available assets>Fits with Global being during the start of the Reload collab>Gives an side character a better angle and exposure>Isn't exposed to license issues for reruns
>>569763061I would prefer any persona character to Miku for the anni but it's not looking good.
>>569763061Miku has no license issues, her video game rights are owned by sega
I fucking hope that we somehow get Adachi
>>569764842And yet SEGA has never reran other self collabs before
>>569764995>States incorrect info>gets called on it>so what b-bakaOK
>>569765134I'm not the guy you initially replied to dumbass I've just heard they did self collabs with other gacha games they own and only ran them once for some reason. It was likely due to lack of popularity though but it shows that it's not as easy as the devs simply running it.
>>569765285It's okay to be wrong tsun-kun, just say you're sorry...
>>569765415>trying to hide your embarrassment for thinking this is a private 1 on 1 conversation and not a public forum where anyone can replyYou can apologise and we can all forget this happened Anon. No need to be shy!
>>569764842Sega is literally horrible with their own cross-IPs. But are you gonna be hellbent on repeating the same cat and mouse game from the previous thread of arguing it despite their track record?
>>569764969Just spoil the entire game before the remake comes out, brilliant
>>569767117Persona 4 is 18 years old
>>569768246ok
kino
What is the verdict on Revival?And how fast will it get adapted into an collab event?
>>569773490Already saving for A6
>>569773490Something about the lighting feels even worse than 3R's. Half the time, it's like we're seeing some bootlegged scenes in an Illusion games.
>>569774094Reload and Revival are based on two games with a notable contrast in presentation. 3 is more gritty with the dark greenish tone while 4 has a stark presence with bright yellows. In the latter's case, lightning and shadows will become more notable when taking the overhaul presentation into account. They get more creative with animations a fair bit.
>>569773730Racemixxing with Yukiko....
>P4R February 18, 2027That gives them plenty of time to finish P3R or P5D. I do wonder if P3R is gonna blueball us like P5R
>>569774094P4 is a fundamentally brighter game than 3 though.
iz real
Ghostbuster persona....
I'm guessing 2028 or late 2027 if they're announcing it this early
>>569776421>>569776690Off topic. Please go to /pg/.
>>569776690Leaks said September 2027
>>569776421>>569776690Gonna assume that it will evoke some material from 3 with it panning over literal gravestones.
>>569776942no
>>569776690Okay, but what is going to be the release date of the re-release with the actual ending and proper endgame content in it?
>>569777492But Atlus pinky-promised they’re not doing that anymore
>>569777994Is the picture all fuzzy from her weekly gangbang getting jizz on the camera?
>>569778710>Anon literally jumps to porn-rotten conclusions over painting styles
>>569779462painted with my cum
>>569779462Erotic steamy scene... Wowza
>>569777028>p3>evoke
>>569779462Not my fault you posted a picture of a whore
So is us getting two new games good or bad for P5X’s future?
>>569781604Good more assets to reuse so we can have the devs focus mainly on original p5x content
>>569781687Yay, more OC tier Mary Sue waifus
>>569763061Chidori is a dead bitch
Ready to A6R6 your favorite character anon?
>>569783674>Marysuefag is madNice that makes me even happier
>>569784117Ok, what persona would she even have? Just Kaguya?
>No shadows in the skewl during the p4r footageLooks like the IT team still can't handle shadows at all times.
>>569773490Busted
>>569784414What do you mean by “just”?
>>569786264Twins mind broke everyone
>>569784117My P4fu
>>569786264>What do you mean by “just”?Marie isn't an official velvet attendant and doesn't display the mindset and characteristics of one or that of an wildcard to swap between multiple personas.
>Mary is backAh, the original Sumire.
Riddle status?
T(ea) Day
>>569734297a6 will let you switch between stacked and flat chested noot
>>569796379The cutest boy... Nao-kun...
>>569796268Based
So marketing wise, it would make sense for the P4R collab to happen around the time the game comes out, right? But by that point, we’ll be stuck with the P5D collab…
>>569796268Thanks Tomoko
>>569796259Wife'd>>569797234Considering the feedback they got from P3R they're likely going to mix up collabs so people don't get bored. Given that P3R only shows 4 characters right now it's going to swap back and forth.
>>569796259Irrelevant
>>569797234The rumored release for P6 is September 2027 so they’re really going to have to hustle with those P4R characters…
haven't played in a while, should i get wind vast now or wait for summer marian?i'm thinking maybe i should pull since i don't have the twins either i just fucking missed their rerun by a few days.
>>569799401Who is the source of that leak? I feel like there's no way they're releasing another mainline game so fast
>>569799543We might be getting a super rerun soon so depending on your gems and character list you might wanna wait for that. We're not sure if the twins will be in the super rerun though.
>>569799401If that was all they had to show it might not even come out in 2028. Even P4R's original pathetic showing a year ago had much more than that (as in, it had game footage, even if it looked like a fucking tech demo with completely empty Inaba) and the game was easy to develop since it's literally the same game.
>>569799543Marian is still a few months away and you can simply put a critbuffer on both of your teams when she arrives. Windv is a good pull even at A0, especially if you are low on strategists to begin with. So if you can afford it then yes Id say get her. Weapon is great but not necesssary for her to function. Make sure to have enough gems for the anniversary unit though. Atleast enough for a potential A1 just in case.
>>569804489If that Miku kit leak was real, you will definitely want A1
>>569804915Even if Miku is real the kit isn't. The fact that nothing in it scaled with any stat should've clued you in.
>>569804915It's probably not real since it's not on reddit or discord unlike the image leaks.
I believe in Joe Miku
>>569804915why? because she gives the navi crit rate buff to team?
>>569806595Nta but the leak’s A1 would give a huge boost to highlights.>Hatsune Miku's Skill Effect Amplification is increased by 15%.>When entering [Virtual Live], all allies' HIGHLIGHT Cooldown will be cleared.When under [Virtual Live], all allies' HIGHLIGHT/Theurgy DMG Amplification will be increased by 10%, and 5% HIGHLIGHT Energy will be recovered after every ally's turn.
Miku is an easy skip
I procrastinated again, so I've been playing p5x all fucking day (ok, only ~4 hours so far).Why do I do this?I have all the story shit, the p3 event, mementos, that battle rally shit, sos...
>>569815268Focus on time limited content first
if this game doesnt eos before p4r those units will all have +1 turn mechanic from their theurgy equivalent
>>569815459Of course, that's my plan. I think I'll make it.I feel like I should be close to the new member's awakening in the story.Almost done with the P3 adventure missions.Did the first boss in the rally (mementos).
>>569816092Isn't it a mix of +1 turn plus theurgy? If it was just +1 turn it wouldn't be that different from base Joker lmao
>>569817104On the one hand, Jonkler's individual turns are shit balanced around the fact that you can reliably get multiple extra turns, so giving an extra turn to someone with better individual turns would be better. On the other hand, a single extra turn would not allow a unit to complete an additional 2 turn or 3 turn rotation, so they wouldn't get an extra payoff turn with just +1.
Do we know who the anni is yet? is it really migu?
Does anyone know what this is going to be used for? Google is worthless. The AI confuses it with Platinum Tickets.
>>569827380I'm thinking miku miku oooo eeee ooo
It feels nice to cuck Yuki-kun. Yukari is such a cutie.
>>569827534Do you pay attention to dialogue at all?
>>569827796I phrased that poorly, what I meant to ask is more along the lines of, "what can this be exchanged for/when will the event associated with this item occur?" I don't even remember getting it, I've been playing since launch.
>>569828598Reading comprehension is op...
What team did you use for Tartarus 6
>>569827534I think it might be from Merope's synergy -- for that (synergy story event) at the cafe Naruru works at.The Japanese description is better.
>>569827380Wasn’t the Miku leaker the same one who leaked P6 stuff? I’d say it’s all but confirmed at this point.
Can't believe miku is still a thing. My grandfather used to be a fan of her back in the day
>>569812486Thankfully, provides a big chance to save.I could be motivated to "build pity" to see if I can RNG into a cheap pickup but that's about it.
>>569831292Haven't yet, two runs of 5 cleared all current missions (except 120 missing persons) and all the meta progression.After the slog the fatties were the first run, I'll just do 6 after Akihiko then run Twins, P3-kun, and Akihiko.
Makoto calling Akihiko a muscle-bound moron felt out of character
>>569831317Ah yes, I remember now. Thank you for your help.
>>569833256p6 got leaked? i thought p5x was p6
>>569831292S-motoha S-Tomo ChordBut you could probably do it easier withMakoto (yuki) & Yukari + WhoeverOr Twins + two mooksTwins should just be that good in anything. I think becasue the boss was a debuff and can get a bless buff yukari is good for her dispelling and cure but honestly with the right cards any team is doable just don't run haru, I hate her AI and don't like using her on auto.
>>569835605Not using Tomoko.
Okay, anyone who was saying the Yukari storyline wasn’t long as fuck was lying out their ass. I’m like 2 hours in and still only 2/3 through.
>>569836471they skipped all the text. See, brown (SEAfags, latinx, and chinese) people can't read so they don't
How did people brainwash themselves into liking the boring ass cast from P4
>>569838029We have a guy here who obsesses about Tomoko, the most boring character in the seriesthe local mental health standards aren't very high
>>569838840Nothing wrong with her.
>>569838029miku is from p4d therefore p4 is good by default
>>569839058you couldn't be more wrong if you tried
>>569839137https://youtube.com/watch?v=oeIy11C909g
>>569839305i mean the fact that you think miku or p4 are good. you couldn't be more wrong
It’s upsetting that Tomoko doesn’t work alongside us at Chagall Cafe
>>569841023anon, Chogall Cafe isn't even real, it's literally inside Wonder's head
>>569841419Wonder just needs to imagine her there.
>>569841419Your mom isn't real.
>>569841419>>569841614Cognitive Tomoko should work there
>>569841419How come Akihiko makes a comment about Wonder being a wildcard but no one questions that his schizo powers spawns an entire party for him including the supposedly missing Riko and Lufel?
>>569843069i don't think wonder's schizo powers have come up even once outside of the time they were introduced into the game
>>569841419I'm just trying to figure out if Yukari gets to keep the clothes she bought from the cognitive future version of Harajuku.
>>569843326Oh nm i just did the next part lol.
>>569843069I don't think the party summoning thing is like actually cannon but moreso a gameplay convivence for us
>>569843643Wasn't Lufel able to see the Mont cognition during the tutorial?
>>569843198Wouldn’t this power make him the strongest protagonist?
Cute
>>569846556Nobody likes faggots or faggot shit.
>>569846556I like Wonder/Shun or Shoki/Shun more.
>>569846808They're all straight.
>they’re using AI on concept artOH NO NO NO
>>569847085
>>569847085"AI" has become a hollow buzzword with nothing tangible about itIt also doesn't matter if it's true. AI is a tool. Cope and seethe all you like.But starting from the narrative "reeee all AI is bad" already puts your argument firmly in the category of dishonest.I know when digital art was taking off, there was pushback as well, and it has for decades been a norm.This idiocy about AI, both the virtue signaling and the paranoia, will be over in a few years.
>>569849750Okay street shitter
>>569846556>>569847085>>569847241Oh also what a cohencidence it is that as soon as some faggy twitter tourist drops by, suddenly shitposting about AI starts up. Wow, I'm shocked, it's almost like faggy tourists are all NPCs with the same exact scripted thoughts.
>>569849790>"i have no arguement so i'll just say you're indian!"Concession accepted.See yourself out.
>>569845341To give an autistic answer,No. In a way, his schizo delusions are similar to the wild card sharing thing Door and Yu do in Q. The sub-Personas their allies can use are slightly more flexible compared to Wonder's delusions, which don't allow for any flexibility. On the other hand, Wonder can use hold up to 3 personas that he can freely change out, while Door and Yu can only hold 2 when they did this and their main personas are locked.And then we have to consider shit like how 3's protag can summon multiple personas at the same time, how everyone in 2 can combine attacks for fusion spells, and 1's cast has actual guns.
>>569850191>1's cast has actual guns.I forgot how much they dropped the gatekeeping by the time 3 came out.
Finally awakened Shoki. Now where can I find doujinshi of Shoki's mom?
Damn that was a good collab. I almost cried. Hopefully the Miku collab will also be a banger.
Guess our quiet generally comfy general (barring the antimokoschizo) was finally found by a shitposter from the bigger gacha generals since in the last few hours we've had>fagshit>AI virtue signaling>wuwa shilling (I think anyway, looks like that slop when they spam it to shit up other threads)And since it's off-topic wuwa shit, jannies will naturally do nothing.
569853376(You)
>>569853376Tomokoretard can you not
>>569850191>And then we have to consider shit like how 3's protag can summon multiple personas at the same time, how everyone in 2 can combine attacks for fusion spells, and 1's cast has actual guns.3 made sense by how Door-kun was basically holding two souls at the same time, giving him overtime the power for multiple at once, 2 felt like the best portrayal of team attacks.
>Make 6 stories focusing solely on the current SEES member>Make 3 stories with the current SEES member meeting some charactersYou'd think that they would do more since it's a collab but then again, Q and Q2 demonstrated how "far" they're willing to get to it.
Lets be honest, Mont does show up in the tutorial, but its effectively not canon anymore since the writers just forgot it entirely.
>>569855396I think the point was more about Wonder being able to summon Idols and the actual team members being aware of it.
>>569855975I don't follow
>>569856098That’s okay buddy. Just press the buttons and get the big numbers
>>569855396If idols didn't follow narrative rules then that means Wonder should be able to put in variants of a character together in a single party. Newest palace boss also blocked both versions of Riko and both versions of Motoha which implies that all versions are thieves and not idols cause only the thieves are indisposed. So, yes, that also means Motoha will wear a swimsuit for Wonder any time he asks and it's not just Wonder's schizo power conjuring Motoha in a swimsuit.
Seiji kinda sucks.
>>569849750I always wonder about this, if the artist is just using a tool like adobe and the tool he's using has AI functions would people still seethe?What ratio needs to be hand drawn and what ratio can have the finishing touches?
>>569867434If I pay for something others made, I expect it to be made by them. If they disclose it, it's transparent. If they hide it, it's deceptive. One game got its award rectonned last year for having AI leftovers despite claiming multiple times they didn't used it.
>>569853376Based
>>569867539I feel like game design has had people outsourcing or buying premade assets for years. but I was talking more about how the creative tools all have AI built into them and how it's only going to become more normalized. The only way to know for sure a project has zero AI is if the devs tell you and show you the software they're using.Otherwise, who can really say how many times adobe create suite generative AI assistance was used. Whose to say while thinking up new designs the artists didn't draw a stick figure and just tell the ai to spit out designs then drew that with assistance tools, people expect I think because it's simpler to understand that AI is a pipe ratio ofI enter idea machine makes it, but I feel like it's a much more nuanced hard to explain thing with how deeply it's rooted into almost all high level software.Some of whom will charge you for its inclusion with no way to opt out of the charge or even totally disable it.
>>569868314If they used it at any point in time, disclose it.If you get caught using it once and lied about it, trust is gone.Ratio is the lesser evil when it comes to transparency. Also why is the AI allegations suddenly surfacing today, right after the P6 and P4R announcements?
>>569868487>Also why is the AI allegations suddenly surfacing today, right after the P6 and P4R announcements?Curious about that as well, early stage arts are occasionally sloppy.
>>569868487I think that'd be fair. I think steam has rules to imply as such but enforcing them is another thing entirely.>Also why is the AI allegations suddenly surfacing today, right after the P6 and P4R announcements?Who knows AI, I cannot blame people for being too schizo though there was a time I wonder if the migu leak was AI. I think you're right in that transparency is the only real solution, but I don't think it'll be them admitting to using it during the design process but just the final product and even then they'll get away with anything they can keep them honest without laws coming into place of platforms like steam enforcing a disclosure policy I feel like it's all but the future of most entertainment to utilize it some way.
>>569867434They'll seethe if it's in line with their virtue signaling.>>569867539>>569868314>>569868487And these idiots continuing to go on with their AI crap, which has NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR GAME, show why you shouldn't even remotely entertain their faggy reddit concerns.
>>569868487>>569868702Shitposters working overtime to get through different generals. They need to "rally people for their noble cause" in their dumbass eyes or some shit.>>569868737>the tools they used need to be disclosed>because uh reasonsYou faggots never have any specific grievance beyond "It's bad and I hate it because that streamer whose patreon I buy into said so"These complaints are dead in 5 years, it'll be a widespread tool, and no one will give a shit.
>>569868947>You faggots never have any specific grievance beyond "It's bad and I hate it because that streamerLost the plot with the streamer part, can't trust others to form their own opinions? It's always Streamer X or Y? AI has been publicly available around for atleast 3 years now and what did it caused?>Fat price spike in PC components or other storage parts to the detriment of the end user>Excessive Power waste with reported and self-confirmed annual losses onward (Self-reported mind you, not estimated by third-party sources)>Documented history of horrendous assistance over the manual search due to attempting to please the asking user over being factualFor every supposed "good" thing AI has provided, which is still underwhelming or just poorly used, two more bad things have been caused, accelerated or influenced by its existence. And the bad overshadows the good on a long-term scale.Fuck off.
>>569777753Anon, Atlus quietly scrapped off the description of the DLC pack for Reload, a day or two before the Season Pass got announced. Promises mean jackshit in face of their actions.
>>569868947You're expecting a specific grievance I feel proves the point I was trying to make to the other anon. Conversations about AI are too nuanced for the average person to really comprehend outside the AI does all the work scenario.Anything outside that people cannot stay focused. >it'll be a widespread tool, and no one will give a shit.The irony is we agree on the first part, except I think they'll just be powerless to stop it.>>569868789Yea It's not totally irrelevant, but I get it not everyone enjoys a meta conversation about the future of game design post more riddle. not like anyone wants to talk about yukari patch anyway.
>>569869541>can't trust others to form their own opinions?You don't have your own opinion. Let's see you formulate it.>Fat price spike in PC componentsOkay? That's supply and demand? You're getting mad at AI because people are... buying PC components?>Excessive Power waste with reported and self-confirmed annual losses onwardWhat does any of this abstract nonsense have to specifically do with AI? That's an abstract, not a grievance.>Documented history of horrendous assistance over the manual search due to attempting to please the asking user over being factualGarbage in garbage out on results, much how your above complaints read like they're written by AI because it isn't a specific personal concern you have, it's just an abstract."Something is more expensive or wasteful so AI is bad!"Like you're basically at saying "AI is bad because it's causing climate change" with your reasoning.It would be good parody of idiotic virtue signalers if you weren't serious.This tangent is super relevant to P5X in some capacity of course.
>>569869859>ou're expecting a specific grievance I feel proves the point I was trying to make to the other anon. Conversations about AI are too nuancedSo like the other idiot, all you've got is empty virtue signaling about abstract issues. And then rather than elaborate, insist your valid reasons are "too nuanced" to share... because it was rightly pointed out preemptively they're just vague abstract nonsense.>The irony is we agree on the first part, except I think they'll just be powerless to stop it.It's as stupid as whining about motorized carriages.>Yea It's not totally irrelevant, but I get it not everyone enjoys a meta conversation about the future of game designI mean I guess you could whine in a general where the game provably "uses AI" (without actually expressing what specific elements "used AI" or were lessened by "using AI") or something, but it ain't like shitposting ever needed a reason.
>>569869859>>569870171Oh and tbf I do apologize if the tone of my reply was excessively hostile. It's just when you see people say the same stupid thing every day, it gets tired even if the poster is not particularly obnoxious about it and is more grounded.
https://x.com/P5XOfficialWest/status/2063950471044440413Poll is up, it's one per person for the entirety of the contest until specified other wise
>>569856098>3. Share your thoughts and messages of support here!They deleted question 2.
>>569870636Went for Kotone.
>>569870582I was cooking up a really long-winded reply, but you seem nice. I don't think our views our dramatically opposed enough for me to want to potentially flood the general with talk of human psychology and the perceived value of hand made objects vs assembly line stuff, not without sounding pretentious at least which I think would be an issue. So I'll just take the L, I think it's an interesting topic to talk about but not worth vibe killing over, the general isn't interested I'll move on.
17 stages for the P3R Yukari crossover story is wildly excessive
>>569870636It's time
>>569871506>potentially flood the general with talk of human psychology and the perceived value of hand made objects vs assembly line stuffI have a can opener that's like 60 years old, maybe more, in with kitchen stuff I got from my mom when it moved out. It can barely cut a can. Two much newer can openers have died since. There's definitely a quality element to how things are made.BUT you can also make every other thing by microwave and provided you as the chef are competent, then the end result will be good.But if you suck at cooking, microwaving stuff probably turns out really badly, and gets a bad rep. But is that the tool or the user?AI's a tool, it's already come leaps and bounds, but it's still going to depend on the quality of the input. I don't get mad at AI, I don't get mad at microwaves, I get mad at bad cooks.
>>569871506>>569872067Oh and there is a huge irony of this being in a Gacha game general, given Gacha games are often responded to with disgust... because people see crap like western mobile slop, and not actual games built as games which happen to be released on mobile as well.So I just roll my eyes at that kind of kneejerk because I see good gacha games. I see AI slop, I also see good AI work or at the least I see clear and significant improvement.
>>569872067>>569872252Character Poll to vote is open and you're hellbent on continuing this?
>>569870636>Until specified otherwiseAre they seriously gonna change the rules halfway?
What's the verdict on Akihiko?
>>569872881I thought I was mostly writing a reconciliatory epilogue while I'm watching/listening to stuff to chill out rn.
>>569872252Yea I think the stigma against gacha comes from very outdated ideas of model, people who have never seen some of the higher budget products and still think it's the PNG collector era. We're at the point where the average action gacha is probably on par with a product like Scarlet Nexus mechanically.So putting it like that I can see why you'd roll your eyes at AI conversations, seeing it as a misunderstood tool and nothing more. >>569872881We already know Riddle will win and get an S-link, but the idol version we get of her will be aged up riddle and it'll be explained that wonder thinks making children fight shadows is moral wrong, no we will never explain why the twins and normal riddle exists.Adult riddle will be a psy assassin.
>>569873008Skipping
>>569873008I assume if you like him, then pull.If you don't, there's a new Motoha in 5.0 though.I doubt he's straight up bad.
Do the port island pharmacy items not appear in shady commodities?
>>569873163>If you don't, there's a new Motoha in 5.0 though.>I doubt he's straight up bad.If the 5.0 Motoha can conjure up his max output to even to one of the two targets she can pick then he's a safe skip to me.
>>569873008Pull him if you like him, you like the P3 gang and have Yukari I think he wants his theurgy more than door-kun.Me personally I'm skipping, I didn't pull Yukari and I plan to pull for 5* Motoha becasue I love Motoha. He's nort bad though. I think he might want his wep however.
>>569873276I don't think so.
>>569873008Summer puppet blows him out of the water
>>569870636Woof Woof Horray!
>>569873304Based
>>569873276Shady commodities items are location-based as unlocked by Mio, so no
>>569870636
Sorry niggers I see some redditors and Discordfags already abusing the poll to spam votes for Kira.
>Wuthering Waves gets Cyberpunk>Honkai Star Rail gets Fate>We get...Hatsune MikuI think we got the short end of the stick bros.
>>569876278Yeah no point touching westoid social media crapYou'll get obscure males being the top girl in a franchise on shit like twitter... likes, not in sales.
>>569877235>cyberslop 2077>he thinks that's a "good" collabGenshin got Aloy from Horizon too
>>569877235wuwa even got sonic. sega needs to step up their game.
>>569877235P5X has Kiryu’s VA so let’s get some Yakuza crossovers
>>569876278>Botting a poll for an wallpaperDo Fujos really?
me and mine 50 alts voted for merope
>>569877801Kys
>>569877801Naruru won't care
>>569870636Voted for Kuichi
>>569877409It is a good collab though.
>>569877235>Starfail gets FateshitNobody cares.
>>569880121007 is a 14 hour movie. People buy and play slopgarbage all the time so top sellers mean nothing. Fucking DA Veilguard was a top seller.
>>569877784Brother, you underestimate the trivial hyperfixation of them.
>>569880121>saar>saaaaaaaar!!!!!>de charts, saaaar!!!!Don't care, didn't ask. Tencent buys their own slop whenever they're doing promos, the same way they viewbot and poll bot too.
>>569880121Where is P5X on this?
>>569873008Hes okay but nothing special. Especially without a1 turbo. Easy skip.
>>569880121>canadaliterally india 2.0
>>569873280She can actually.. Numbers will be going up quite fast from here on out.
Is there any content in the game where element actually matters that isnt just whale scoring slop?
>>569883343Probably the bosses that have special conditions based on what element they got hit with.
>>569873420Do what...?
>>569883761doggy style
>>569881661You can't buy your way into steam charts unless you're spending billions just to do it "legitimately", but that defeats the purpose of trying to make money. But you knew that, didn't you?
>>569883761IT
>>569883761Stripping her naked and walking her around Shibuya on a leash
>>569885414She makes me wear a shichi-kun head while we make love...
>>569884581>spending billions>he thinks Counter-Strike 2 is raking in Billions for 14 years now...
>>569887901You really think it’s not? Show proof.
>just checked my TW account tartarus>Next update adds 6 more difficulty levels on top of the bonus bossSheesh well there's gonna but lots to do for that 2 week period plus it's probably gonna be hard enough that you will want to manually control it
>>569890589It also adds 30 more mastery nodes. Not sure if it adds another antique or not.
I miss the metro
>>569891615It’s still in the game though?
>>569888817>make comically ridiculous claim>have claim pointed out on absurdity>"well you disprove me!"No.
>>569891615Tartarus is just better metro
>>569870636Do I vote for Runa, Anderson, YUI, or Polter??? It’s tough being spoiled for choices. A top 5 would have been so much easier>>569885414Runa keeps wanting to do IT even more often…
>>569891705Yes, but there are no missions or difficulties left to complete. The card set building and team challenges we far more engaging than running around the same boring tartarus areas getting basic>6% crit increase>boost fire damage>make random element null for 2 fightsOver and over every floor >>569891995I disagree but I can see how people can enjoy it. I just got bored with it way faster than the metro. I might just prefer using my own characters and building card sets around them rather than getting everyone at a6r6 and boosing general stats
>>569892467Look into your heart and know Runa is the way
>>569890589>That two week periodAfter the Akihiko update there are 5+1(anniversary) updates before the next P3R update. The only Tartarus shit you will *need* to do in the two week Akihiko period is one or two runs to complete the timed missions that come with each update, plus using stamina on the boss fight. The rest of the Tartarus update can be done over time since it will be a couple months before any more new Tartarus content.
>>569892467>not voting for Slammer
>>569893231I know it's not time limited it's just a lot of content to tide people over til anni. That being said given how much they reduced the grind it's hard to tell how difficult it will be.>>569892978You are possibly the only person who ever built a card set around metro. I can understand why you might not like it but the awareness stuff lets you mess with stuff you wouldn't have otherwise and use teams you wouldn't normally use which I like.
>>569894004Let a man vote for their sole passion, not for a fleeting vision.
just voted for my psy wifey
>>569894107I probably shouldn't have used the term "card sets". I'm talking about the cards you get from fighting enemies and doing events in the metro that you can make sets with bigger boosts. I didn't mean revelation cards
>>569894978Based Riddlechad
They really should have had the popularity vote be something you vote for in game, at least then it’d be more difficult to rig. I can already imagine that several people are already creating a ton of emails to flood the vote.
>>569895007Oh I see well for the most part I feel like with the exception of agony most of the time you just built regular characters with generic buffs especially with the highlight and navi card sets. You could take shield/healing sets but it was a gimmick much like it is in tartarus.
>>569895270I assume there'd be problems with cross region voting or some shit but then again they could just tally things by region and give us interesting statistics for who is popular where so that'd honestly be better. I know some games use level requirements or like OSRS has a quest level requirement or something like that which would be good.
>>569894978>>569895110Samefag
>>569895857>>569894978Samefag
>>569895857>>569896345Samefag
>>569896479You mean >SamefagBecause it’s a quote
>>569897194>>569897194Samefag
>>569894184>Frenchlover speaking factsWhat are the odds of that?
>>569895270>They really should have had the popularity vote be something you vote for in gameAren't there already trigger flags in the game that checks a certain progression ingame for some events while also keeping track of some choices? Make one based on those variables and tie it into a submission queue.
>>569891615When exactly are they gonna update it again?
>>569899380They haven't yet as Tartarus replaced it. We still don't know what those "coming soon" things are on TW.
>>569873008>What's the verdict on Akihiko?He's cool but as the others have advised, do it only if you like him.
Excited to test out mu sexy banana on SoS
>>569900664>didn't r6ngmi
>>569900995Post yours
>>569901572I'm not the one using 4* Motoha as a meme
>>569902030>meme If i'm not pulling Akihiko who do you suggest?
>>569902376Bui, of course!
>>569902376Her numbers are so low you're better off using a neutral damage type so depending on the boss that'd maybe be your Haru or Joker or such. Weakness damage only gives a 1.2 damage bonus in P5X whereas resisting damage is a 0.5 modifier. Given her terrible damage numbers even on launch any neutral dps is better. If you have Yui she might also be a good substitute even without her A6 if the electric multiplier is good enough.
>>569902376Your latest aoe character whos damage isnt being resisted. I dont remember Akis sos boss but in ngm his fight consists of Slaughterhouse and his 4 friends with the added special effect of dealing fuckall damage unless you down all the clowncars. I think it was 80% extra damage last time I saw that boss? Could be wrong. That means critical hits or weakness damage until we have specialized supports that focus on lowering down points. High critrate Turbo pressing s1 is great as a support here. Every ranked boss will have the down point mechanic from now on so enjoy.
>P4R characters will get added with their own Prime Time meter with gimmicks that will force you to pull for most of them if you want to use any of themGreat. Fun. Awesome.
>>569902649Isn't she single target? I assumed the sos would be sweeper based to shill Akihiko.>>569904330>TurboI wish. I guess ill just take your advice and try to use CNY Rin or something, but i did put enough into Motoha that I'd like to see how she fares. Would be pretty funny if she somehow did well.
>>569905514BUI evolves into a sweeper if you feed her enough
Can someone explain to me how the fuck the new final Tartarus boss works? It doesn't explain anything. What the fuck do the hands do? Why do they stop respawning after a while? Do I need to bring dispel to remove the blessing stacks (cause holy shit the healing is annoying)? I had to retreat after I almost hit 120 turns near the end of phase 2.
>>569904330Akihiko's SOS boss is Cu Chulainn flanked by 4 Eligors.
>>569902649>>569906045Based Bui suggesters
>>569906886Note that she’s actually been buffed just this last patch with the new cyclotron dagger
>>569906228>Dispel the blessingsI cleared it once so far on difficulty 4 with a Yukari with enough awareness & theurgy buffs that she could cyclone arrow every other turn, dispelling 2 buffs each time, and it still felt like it did nothing to lower the blessing stacks and just had to out damage the healing.
>>569906228Dude what teams and cards are you running? Even Difficulty 6 can be cleared on auto
>>569908178Just tell me what team to use then.
>>569909509Riddle/Twins/S.Tomoko/Riko
>>569882094428 in top sellers today.
>>569909509Messa/Twins/Yukari trivializes everything. Especially if you grab the Hanged Man arcana. Really though you can clear with a lot of teams by optimizing your economy through card selection and loading up on damage cards. Are you killing absolutely every shadow on every level?
I took the Monad spawning relic and you're never gonna guess how many doors spawned in. Never switching off from the will relic again.
>>569906228Just use Summer Motoha to kill the hands, they stop spawning after some time
>>569906228Pink hands give 3 curse the the party when summoned and remove 5 curse when killed. White hands give 3 blessing to the enemies when summoned and remove 5 blessing when killed. Black castle also adds curse stacks and white castle also adds it's own blessing stacks. It's best just to nuke everything with a sweeper and have yukari use her theurgy on white castle to remove blessing stacks.I found single targeting hands with an assassin just wasted turns because half the time another hand of the same type would respawn, meaning you only cleared 2 blessing stacks.
>>569909920Strategist twins I’m guessing?
>>569911907I used Sweeper to kill the hands. I also specced Wonder as dps with Yoshitstune
>>569906228Just use S-motoha, S-Tomoko, S-Twins or (chord if you stack highlight cards),Fight everything, Stack coins untill the last clock, break and explore everything, don't care about wands untill you're close to the end or it's something that promises a monad door.S-motoha is probably the best advice though she's got a 75% damage buff right now and it a sweeper so she clears the hands easy enough.Could also use yukari becasue she has a dispell and cleanse.Or maybe mesa how hard are they going to cuck his dots in a for fun mode right?
>>569912157This is actually a great Idea, if you get enough crit and the card that lets knocked down enemies get back up right after you can essentially just spam all out attacks. much better than having wonder be a buff bot after you get enough buffs on the party.
Tomoko
Haruna
why are you guys like this
>>569917116who me?
>>569917248no, the guy behind you
>>569917348That's just the same guy with a second account
>>569906228>use Summer Moto and Summer Moko>with the perk that does damage to an enemy if someone heals>perk does will over a million when Moko or Yukari heal>hands die easily>but they respawn every single time>the perk randomly targets an enemy so the side mobs take the hit instead of the boss>both bosses have a bajillion HP>turn on auto because im not dealing with this shit>go cook, eat and wash up in about 30 minutes>come back to game>watch them get killed and the hands had stopped spawning at some pointI hate this fucking devs.
>>569917656get fucked auto battling retard
>>569919920If I give wonder Norn he will do nothing but shield like a retard and never use crit buffs
Yaoling would cum sweet-and-sour sauce
>>569920364Perfect for dipping my egg roll in
Hopefully the trend continues and the inevitable third Yaoling alt has even less clothes and she finally looks like a concubine she was always meant to be
>>569921449Halloween alts would have great potential but I don't know if chinese devs have the balls. I don't think I've ever seen Chinese devs do halloween themed events
>>569921449Would this work?
>>569921593No big events but they did have wallpapers and freebies.https://www.bilibili.com/opus/993209471402508294https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1129768815586967576
>>569922030Oh nice that gives me some hope at least. We got a one off with CNY Rin and they always go for yearly swimsuits because they know how much money they make I think Halloween would be great for another consistent event they could do because of all the different sexy costumes that could fit under that theme
>>569908178>>569909630Riddle's Chair is a mentally ill pedo btw
>>569923692Does he post here? I've had him on my friends list since I started playing.
How are you supposed to win the -100 will challenge? I went into the two towers with an A7 Makoto and A7 Yukari and still couldn't beat them because they have like 300 billion HP and heal billions per turn.
Improving my proficiency might get Motoha’s attention…
>>569923692Anti Tomoko Schizo stop shitposting>>569923857He posts on 624 responding to Anti Tomoko Schizo's accusations so he probably posts here too>>569923863I just did it on easy mode but you could beat the boss at around -90 and then when you beat them you go below -100 which completes the mission.
I NEVER FELT LIKEI should replay persona 3 this is giving me a lot of nostalgia. also does yukari really need a 17 what I assumed to be time limited story?
>>569924046I was on -88 but the boss still took no damage. I only got it down to half before it started one shotting my units.
>>569924046Post him "responding" to accusations
>>569925061At -50 to -99 you have -50% stats and -50% final damage if you have a good build you should be fine. What team were you using? You should also consider picking some defensive buffs along the way so you don't get one tapped.>>569925356Anti Tomoko Schizo he posted his Summer Tomoko to prove he's not you. Only Anti Tomoko Schizo tries to fixate on people with specific waifus and schizo out pretending only one person likes that specific character.
>>569925643So no proof, ok
>>569925810Anti Tomoko Schizo I know you're mad that people realised you were pretending to be a Tomoko fan to go after riddle fans but this is pathetic even for you
>>569925971No proof? No proof.
>>569926117Do you not even have the game installed anymore? Is that why you're saying there's no proof? Stay mad kek
>>569926416Pics or it didn't happen.
>>569926494You won't accept pics schizo you'll just say it was edited. Go in game and ask him to post his Summer Tomoko again. When I saw the post it said 7 days ago and it's been about a week since then and it doesn't scroll that far back.
>>569925061If you need maximum cheese for the -100 fight, it's now Fox + Cherish + Tank Twins + Puppet. Puppet spam S2 on fox during boss fights for down points so he doesn't get counter-countered, and since Cherish and fox both want defense your damage stat is also your survival stat. Throw it on easy and take every +defense card younger and the final boss should be hitting for single digit damage amounts even at negative will.
>>569926835Is it because you responded as harunas chair and not riddles chair thus exposing that you're a weirdo who talks to himself in chat? Which of us has pictures of riddle saying "I hate Tomoko?"
>>569926836I beat it with Makoto/Yukari/twins on easy mode (not difficulty 1) having the card that gives you null for the first three turns helps too.>>569927043I'm not him retard but the post in question was along the lines of "I was accused of being Anti Tomoko Schizo but I'm not" followed by his Summer Tomoko card. The only thing that was off about it was I believe he didn't max her S2 but S3 was maxed maybe because he has an A6 Haru or something so he didn't feel the need to level S2.
>>569927535>I'm not him>I'm just vehemently defending him and ignoring the content of what you saidWhy did Harunas chair defend himself when hes never been mentioned and its riddles chair who is called out. You keep ignoring that part but what else can you expect from a schizo.
>>569927920I never said anything about Haruna's chair.>why are you defending himbecause you accuse ANYONE that likes riddle of being riddle's chair much like you accuse anyone who likes Tomoko of being one guy. Maybe stop schizoing out and saying all riddle fans are samefags and people won't feel the need to call you out for being schizo
>>569928214>ignored what I said againIf you can't read there's no helping you at this point
>>569926836>>569927535Ok I was on difficulty 2. Maybe I will go down to easy and try it again. I was using Makoto, Yukari, and Twins and somehow my DPS wasn't enough. I don't remember the cards I picked, but generally I just got the elemental attack, crit, and theurgy cards.
>>569928370If you had proof of any of your claims it'd be way easier to take you seriously. Conveniently ignoring the fact you call anyone who likes riddle riddle's chair and anyone who likes Tomoko one guy sure is convenient huh? Unless you directly address the fact you're schizo about riddle fans I'm just gonna take that as a concession.
>>569928543For achievements there's no reason to go for harder modes than required. Easy mode also gives your units a buff which helps counteract the will debuff which is how I did it at -100 without AoA spam or healing.
who is your favorite villain so far and do they compare with original persona villains?
>>569928641If being illiterate and not being able to follow a conversation even when its written out for you makes you feel like you won an internet fight so be it. BTW since posting Tomoko is proof you aren't the ATS here's mine. Guess by your own logic I cant be ATS
>>569929352They all kind of suck. If they were fleshed out more they can be good tho.
>>569929434Never said it was proof in general retard. Nobody knows who the Anti Tomoko Schizo is in game so he could easily crop someone else's Tomoko to pretend he owns it. That's different from the guy you're accusing presenting his own Tomoko in game. You also didn't address the fact you're schizo about riddle posters because you know it's true. Being Anti Tomoko Schizo is sad but becoming Anti Tomoko Schizo but for riddle instead is even sadder if somehow you're genuinely not him although I still believe you are.>Didn't even max skill 3This only makes me think it's not yours even more. Skill 1 is upped to 9 for some reason when it's only really used against single targets which isn't meta meanwhile the everlasting incense which you used could have been used on skill3 or skill2 which actually are part of her rotation when being used in sweeper setups. I'd be downright embarrassed to have a worse Tomoko then the riddle fans you're schizo over. Don't bother replying unless you explain why you're schizo over riddle like the ATS you claim not to be. If you're not him you wouldn't want to replicate his behavior.
>>569930538>>569926835>You won't accept pics scizo you'll just say it was someone else's pictureProjection again. Boring
>>569930891I never said I'd accept screenshots as proof because I know you're a schizo who might edit them, you're the one who implied screenshots are proof so there's no gotcha there. But you dodging the point several times in a row is just like him hmmm curious. Anyways I accept your concession.
>>569930475even subway slammer?
>>569932118We need to know how he managed to vanish in that very small crowd and launched Tomoko so high with a simple push. There's more to him than we learned in his arc and I dont think we've seen the last of him
>>569929352I think Akashi is better than Madarame, Kaneshiro, and Okumura but I always thought those 3 were the low point of P5
>>569932823god i miss him so fucking much
god... what the FUCK IS WRONG THIS GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME????
>>569935403Skill issue desu
>>569935403Game is made by a very small company. Prease understand, Whale-kun
>>569929352Kiuchi. Memes aside, I like how straightforward and petty the guy is. He's incredibly dramatic and cheesy, a perfect opening villain.Kamoshida, while being taken far more seriously, was also overly dramatic and soap opera-y without it being dragged out, which is why I think he's so memorable.
>>569936207where does all my money go to then?
>>569936364it also helped that he looked almost EXACTLY like yandere dev
>>569936380To pay Tomoko's VA to show up and read female characters messages and other random stuff every stream
>>569929352They all kinda suck but all the villains in persona 5 also kinda suck. Kamishiro is really the only standout as its a much dark and much more personal type of evil
Dead threadDead game
>>569944803Yeah, Yukabitch killed the game.
i need to complete 4 city adventure missions for this quest, what the fuck is that ?
>>569946660This shit?You need to do dailylife tasks for things based in Port Island or whatever it's called...
Okomot
Why is he called riddles chair anyway? I don't get it.
>>569950150It's funny because he's pretending to like the ugly loli! Hahahaha
>>569950150A chair is something that you sit on.
>>569726927I have an bugged UI with the highlight gauge staying after every fight.
yoshi! I caught up on all the event shit except for the time-limited Tartarus missions which I'll do tomorrow.Hopefully I won't procrastinate again.
>>569958860>Hopefully I won't procrastinate again.To be fair, this patch was only a week long so it’s not like you really procrastinated
>>569710393I understand that Tomoko is one of the "alt timeline Thieves" but it legitimately feels weird how disconnected she is from the group despite her being the victim of the first case. Nobody ever mentions her but it feels like she should be there, idk how to explain it
>>569713957As the replacement for Makoto in the Thief group i find her infinitely more tolerable.
>>569714608She was raised like a doll by a father who just wanted her to inherit the business and she never felt the desire to break away from that until she gained some friends to snap her out of it.
>another premium pass+ exclusive illustration for the Thieves DenPoorfags are going to kill themselves again.
>>569959075That was half of it -- the other half was the main story that I didn't touch until yesterday. :)>>569959532Is it cute?
>>569935403DOOR STUCKDOOR STUUUUUUUCKDOOR KUN
>>569751945Please gods of Comiket give us Wonder plowing Yukari and Riko in Tartarus
>>569959770I want Wonder and Shun double teaming Shoki's mom in front of Shoki.
>>569959128It is weird. Perhaps there will be a bit of a sub-arc playing/replaying story elements with a different party.Tomoko for Kiuchi, Yaoling for Miyazawa, Yukimi for Akashi
do people actually enjoy tartarus? it's too time consuming with very little rewards for how much time and attention is needed.
>>569754879Didn't leaks say she's a one and done thing where she comes maxed out when pulled, because they may not be able to rerun her? that might explain why she seems OP.
>>569959885It drags. The structure of Metro is better.
>>569764969Concealing the twist has been a lost cause since like, Week 1 of the game's original PS2 launch. Once he was a character in Ultimax there was no hiding it.
>>569959909If she's a 1 pull and done complete unit and there's Ange-ish merits to her, I could see myself pulling.Like let's say they tune her in the range of A1 Ange, okay, cool, I get a 2nd one and she was a low opportunity cost even if she gets power crept.Great unit for Astrolabe.
Does buying the aojiru do anything if you already maxed the city life attributes?
>>569772061>get to title screen of Revival>start new game>option pops up>"We have included two ways to experience the world of P4R. One is "Good Mode" where all mentions of the character 'Marie' is omitted along with her shitty bonus dungeon. The other is "Marie Mode", if you want to experience cringe unlike anything you have ever seen."
>>569960323No achievement even though I bought out the shop (didn't check if there was), just closer to a minor 200 overflow bonus.
>>569960464Oh so it actually gives exp to the attribute instead of straight up giving you a level?
>>569959128She’s not a main character. She’s like Key. Or to make a comparison to P5 - she is a shiho - a woobie relevant for that one arc but never again.
>>569960323Gives you points towards the "free" item if you've done manaka's synergy, but the yen cost isn't worth it.
>>569960554Yeah it's similar to what it does in the other games, just a few points in the stat. Ain't worth since the overflow bonuses are not worth the cash. Especially when considering the crane game funds.Tomoko's face when new crane game.
>>569960658>>569960731Thanks.
>>569959885It's also buggy as fuck, I've had to close/restart due to ShuffleTimes failing to load, once it happened like 6 times in one run. At least it's not time-gated.
>>569959885i'm gonna be honest with you anon i haven't even fucking opened it oncei can barely motivate myself to play through the event story
>>569961145Yukari's are so fkin funny dude. You just take her out for food and shopping like 5 times in a row. She is the most stereotypical woman ever, I love her.
>>569959128>obody ever mentions herAnd that's a good thing>but it feels like she should be thereNo, it actually doesnt feel like this at all
>>569961631motoha and riko don't feel like they would hang out under normal circumstances. it feels like she should have tomoko to bounce off of because they had a thing in common. but tomoko playing baseball is pretty much abandoned the moment it's brought up just to connect her to motoha for that arc. i don't feel that with the other 4 stars just her in particular
>>569962015Tomoko is just Shiho but much uglier. Her role in the story is to get abused and fade away into obscurity
Yukari is so beautiful.
Metaphor collab before P4R?
>>569962629I really dislike how the SEES 'armor' covers her pink top. Don't these devs know better? It messes with her color-coding.
>>569962775after the E33 collab
>>569701448P5X takes place in the same universe as Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>569963096I believe it.
>>569959128Four eyes is a mediocre industry plant.>Synergy? About someone else or jobs>Events? About Jobs>Satomi's marriage? Make it somehow about Four eyes with nothing new beyond jobs>P3 collab and meeting Door-kun? Just talking about jobs>Shit like bits with Manaka? Jobs>Her own birthday needing to be shilled a week in advance for traffic, only to be outdone by anyone else in terms of online traffic with none of that? Keeps. talking. about. jobs. or. others. >First global character poll? Constantly guilt tripping people into voting the literal walking jobShe's mid past her slamming, nothing about her stands out, her fans are cancerous repetitive maggots exhibiting the same issues of four eyes as in having to leech off others to keep their relevancy onscreen, nothing being added or expanded on for four eyes despite being constantly glazed everywhere when even someone like Kurotani has more going for him even when he's depicted as the poster Chunni boy and the most important bit? He keeps things with his involvement ENTERTAINING.
>>569962925Yeah, Reload's tacticool outfits aren’t really my thing.
>>569964457
>>569964457This post nails many of my grievances with her but one thing standing out to me is the Satomi bit. She got married, it's supposed to be one of the happiest days in her life, and then in the stream as she is handed the bouquet of flowers, you see how first she subtly gets reduced from her marriage as Satomi to the marriage of Part-timer's VA. If you have to capitalize on IRL happenings to get attention when you can't get it in-game then might as well just drop her altogether. 4/10 Character with 0/10 sense of shame.
>>569964457>Her own birthday needing to be shilled a week in advance for traffic, only to be outdone by anyone else in terms of online traffic with none of that? Keeps. talking. about. jobs. or. others.That's the kicker. Like come on, at least have some variations for that.
>>569964457Kurotani is infinitely better because his shit feels distinct and the dialogue with him actually varies beyond the usual two topic of his destined glazing to self-righteous commitment where you can tell more about him in each event he appears in.
>>569964457Based as fuck. Even Seiji is more memorable and he's been so far only been present in just an sidequest and the den. AND EVEN HE HAS MORE CHARACTERISTICS DESPITE HAVING ONLY 1/20 OF THE ATTENTION THAT THE SLAMMED BITCH HAS.
>>569964457Naruru even has more than just jobs. And she's an average Maid worker.For fucks sake.
>>569734297Gonna assume that they will have their unique moves from their 3rd awakening as part of their base kits.
>>569964457I really don't understand why they decided to run with Tomoko as the character they push for. It's like they came together and said, let's put the most mid character possible on a pedestal in every way. Whether it be on twitter or the YouTube live streams
>>569965972Naruru will always be worse in my eyes. Only because she ruined Merope by association.
>>569892467>Do I vote for Runa, Anderson, YUI, or Polter???Vote for who (You) like.
>>569966105The only explanation i can come up with is Satomi is just straight up fucking everyone or at the very least giving them blow jobs even after marriage
>>569966274Nah, they just exploit shit without thinking of how to make Four-eyes even mildly entertaining. Woman got married and they couldn't resist and make HER special day about a chick who can't even got a single event without mentioning her part-time jobs.
>>569961145Just skip it and cash in the jewels.
>>569929352Tabloid hag. Actually as rooted and grounded as the actual tabloids in Japan despite their leaping laws regarding allegations. Shoki is the right character to materialize it as well.
>>569966152Same.I loved Merope until she got obsessed with Narupoo.
>in a better timeline
>>569967042Hell yeah. I'm really enjoying this current one.Shimotuna > Subway Slamma >>> NTR Bro >>>>>>>>>>> Noodle Dick
>>569967231Did he also slammed Wonder into heaven?
>>569968412unfortunately subway slammer-sama is only interested in specific JK girls that DESERVE it.
Thinking of getting Junpei since I got my A0 Door-kun to 103
I heard Katayama is playable down the line? When do we get her on Global? 2027?
>>569969971After the summer units, so late Augustish.
>>569969971Not been updated for the last few CN patches but she is 4 banners after Akihiko.The only question is if Miku gets a global release that pushes this back.I expect the Summer duo is a two-part Summer patch like the last, so only 1-2 week gap between them.So>few days til Akihiko>2 weeks til Berry*Possible Miku delaying Berry 2-3 weeks>2-3 weeks til Summer>KatayamaSo anywhere from 4-8 weeks
>>569971540I tarded up the math a lot.It's 4-5 weeks for Summer and ~3 weeks after thatWith a possible 2 week Miku delaySo sometime in August, earlier without Miku, later with Miku, probably.
>>569966152I liked her idol obsession, the idea of her hyperfixating on one very niche part of human culture did it for me.>>569966105They should push Runa a lot more, shes pretty amusing and has great expressions. Hopefully she gets an alt u it worth using at some point. Maybe a one piece swimsuit with shichi-kun face on it or similar
>>569971679why is she not wearing socks?
Is Luce worth using? I like him and want to use him... but he's only a 4*...>>569972003They make ballet socks that cover your toes and bottom of your feet; she's likely wearing those.
>>569972135>Is Luce worth using?He's a good support Idol with the varying buffs. Combine it with other builds that utilizes blessing and you've got an sustainable setup for a good half of the content.
Just looked up the 5* variation of Luce.And I am shocked by the big numbers.Should I just go for an standard setup with the 5* Onions as well or can I go all Bless?
>>569935403you gotta move forward and then back which moves you out pixel by pixel
>>569964457As much as I love Tomoko she's a victim of being a 1.0 character with all the problems they have. Most 1.0 characters are extremely one note with zero depth and this isn't helped with the 1.0 trend to make synergies about other people. In a way riddle not having a synergy and just having a side quest has saved her from having a dog shit synergy and would allow the good writers to write something more interesting. That being said I doubt riddle would have one because the devs know a large portion of people who like riddle specifically want a romantic synergy but the devs would likely blueball people like they did with Katayama.
>>569971987>I liked her idol obsession, the idea of her hyperfixating on one very niche part of human culture did it for me.To me that just made her an inferior Elizabeth. It doesn't even feel like she's obsessed with idols it seems to be mainly Naruru.
>As much as I love TomokoDisgusting sentence, acquire some taste T-schizo
>>569978732>replying to me when you got BTFO'd earlierkek gonna pretend that never happened then
>>569978606>Most 1.0 characters are extremely one note with zero depth and this isn't helped with the 1.0 trend to make synergies about other people.They fixed it later with the main thieves and Kurotani but Four-eyes stays left behind. It's 4.0 and she's still the same as ever, the others got at least something else to get the attention on.
>>569978606If the problem stayed in 1.0 it would be fine.But it didn't, other 1.0 batches got more characteristics or happenings beyond the few notes of 1.0 and the only one that remained was Job-san.
>>569979349I agree either that or just being "Motoha's friend". I just think it was difficult for them to write themselves out of that one corner. I would love for them to actually give her more depth.>KurotaniWell the thing about his quirk is that it's a fun one and he shows up rarely enough that it doesn't get overplayed whereas Jobs is kind fucking boring which is weird given how varied jobs can be. They could have had a bit where she could be like the Alien from American dad or something.>>569979394I'm not sure if you're talking about main party members when you're talking about other quirks but from what I've seen most side characters from 1.0 stayed pretty one note and that's in part due to the lack of screen time required to actually give them depth unlike Tomoko who seems like she's on the cusp of being important enough for the devs to actually do something with her. My only theory (outside of bad writing) is that her development is being reserved for if/when we time loop but even that probably isn't true.
>>569979903 (me)Oh and to add to this she kinda had something interesting going on with her canonical crush on the player but outside of her synergy it kinda feels like it's not addressed probably in part to players who might've chosen other girls but even then she could've been similar to Rise in P4 just shyer
>>569979903Don't care, she's just above average levels of boring amidst the 1.0 batch, they had plenty of moments for nearly two years now and there is still not nothing beyond jobs. She just sucks.
>>569980076>nothing beyond jobsShe's canonically interested in the player too and it's something they should lean into more given it makes her unique
>>569980148Would have been fine if she had something else beyond jobs with the player.Her liking the player doesn't fix the inherent lack of content with her. She is just jobbing in the literal sense and any hope is wasted after two years. Anyone else had at least three to four more paragraphs of characteristics, Four-eyes just has two bullet points across two years and being into 5.0 by now:>Likes the player (Her own rank 15 "confession" is beyond disappointing)>Has part-time jobs (Which gets rubbed in your face too many times than it needs to)That's it, anything else either circles back to jobs or to others. She's just bad, she isn't getting fixed writing-wise after so long, her drought is a letdown even for gacha standards and it's more annoying the more you think about that.
>>569967374>Shimotuna > Subway Slamma >>> NTR Bro >>>>>>>>>>> Noodle DickI forgot the food critic guy. Them pivoting his position in a positive sense post-change of heart feels off.Like yeah, knowing if food is good or bad is a nice thing, doesn't mean that it somehow justifies things.
>>569834026>I could be motivated to "build pity" to see if I can RNG into a cheap pickup but that's about it.Honestly unless you have already some progress of pity in the 80 banner, always gun for 110. No amount of potential savings is worth going half of the time beyond a full stack of jewels.
>>569799543Marian blends in nicely with 5* Shoki.
>>569980468I agree the job thing is overplayed I just don't see how it's much different from Rise's quirks of>being an idol>being really into the playerI liked her too and I feel like if they gave Tomoko a main character spotlight she'd actually have enough time for the devs to actually give her more depth. The only problem is the job thing was the worst writing decision and a terrible quirk because despite how varied you'd think it could be it's extremely one note and lacks depth somehow. I hope they somehow give her *actual* screen time and not just having her show up in events to talk about Jobs so that jobs can stop being her quirk and have her do something to actually interesting instead. You can tell the problem is jobs because Kurotani is universally loved despite having less quirks that Tomoko because his quirk is good whereas Tomoko's job quirk is fucking terrible so people only love her despite of that quirk.
>>569959885It's fun until you get to the final boss. This one is even worse cause he heals. Like I get that they had to balance them for a full A6/A7 party with a bunch of buffs but the health pool is still ridiculous.
>>569959885If you think it's time consuming on global then you would have hated TW lmao personally I enjoy it but it'd be nicer if there was more rewards tied to it.
>>569977554LuceN + ShunP + Summer marian + Ange is his best team. A high awareness Turbo is also ok when you can get away with not running Shun like in devourer of dreams.
>>569980910You learn more about Rise over the years.>Likes Tofu>Shit like other hobbies, even adopts stuff like self-help books beyond the player's help with her burnout of Idol work>Changes from Navi to combat roleMost of her shit is a blend from the events of the game something of her own. Four-eyes has none of that, she's just that bland on her own, end of the story.
>>569982220>LuceN + ShunP + Summer marian + Ange is his best team. A high awareness Turbo is also ok when you can get away with not running Shun like in devourer of dreams.Thanks, anon. Know my next set of pulls.
>>569936483Kamoshida at least won an award for a game.
>>569983263You only learn all that because she's a main character with continuous story time unlike Tomoko who gets gets to show up for a little bit in event stories and she's never the focus of them. You keep saying she gets "years" of time but there's a difference between appearing for a little bit as a side character in a side (event) story VS being a main character. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous.
>>569983974It doesn't matter if she is a main character or not. That stuff is from her bloody social link, which is 10 ranks instead of 20 in P5x. Four-eyes has nothing except jobs in her synergy, events or collabs. Measuring rank content is fair ground regardless of character status because both have a synergy/social link.
>>569983974Stop pivoting away from the fact that despite being in all those side events, there isn't even a single other new characteristic about her that isn't jobs or the player.
>>569982220>LuceN + ShunP + Summer marian + Ange is his best team.Shouldn't it be possible to substitute ShunP with other Shield Idols?
>>569960124>Once he was a character in Ultimax there was no hiding it.Wasn't that like five years after the original came out?
>>569959532>Gatekeeping illustrations (That can be viewed for free online) beyond atleast 10 bucksLol
What are the best combos for Summer Miyu?
>>569984431Yusuke.
>>569984431Twins, no doubt.
>>569984294Nobody denies that her synergy is shit it's a 1.0 synergy that not only focuses on the writers terrible quirk they gave her but it's also more focused on Kotone then herself. I'm saying because the only main screen time she's had since then is small pockets of event stories good writers haven't had enough time to give her more.>>569984312What part of "being a small part of a side event doesn't give the writers enough time to go into depth and give her more interesting quirks" do you not understand? Kurotani only shows up to do his chunni quirk in side events and even in the main story but when you read the synergy he's got a bit more going on because the good writers took over but even then since his synergy any time he shows up it's to play the one note chuuni quirk which is one less note than Tomoko. It just so happens Tomoko's shitty job quirk overshadows her crush on the player quirk because it's so bad.
>>569984431Turbo's extra turns plus pierce helps her since she follow up damages on every allies turn. I believe twins is also good for her but to be fair twins was released later so it'll be a new meta with them around.
>>569984837(me)also if Miku does give everyone 2 extra turns with her S3 Miyu will benefit from them a lot since everyone's extra turn gives her a chance to follow up
>>569984753>because the only main screen time she's had since then is small pockets of event stories good writers haven't had enough time to give her more.She had more time in side events which eclipses the main story presence and that did nothing. Her being nothing more than a job or simping for the player won't be helped by squeezing her into the main story if they won't do anything beyond becoming a thief. If the food doesn't pass even as a side dish, it won't pass as an meal. They had all the time in the world and NOTHING came out for her, I am not gonna put with the mindset that eventually something could come for her if she happened to be more in the main story. She was mediocre in 1.0, a 5/10 in her own synergy, repetitive in side events (Which are often handled by the same people of the main story mind you) and even in collabs with other persona games they have no ideas for beyond jobs or Player-sama. She's past the point of catching on.
>>569984837>Turbo's extra turns plus pierce helps her since she follow up damages on every allies turn.Could be nice.
>>569985196Wouldn't Miku potentially also fuel the Frostgale build for extra stacks/buffs?If the Miku claims are true.
>>569985201If you somehow think time spent being a side character in a side event has the same amount of writing freedom as being a main character in the main party then I don't know what to say man. It's not about raw screen time. Nobody denies her 1.0 synergy is dog shit in fact it's something Tomoko lovers point out. Anyone who actually loves a character wants them to be better and also hates that Kotone was the main focus of that synergy which is another problem with 1.0 synergies. I remember seeing a Korean wiki near global launch have a page for her and while most pages on the site were barebones her page explicitly mentioned her synergy was controversial since she got overshadowed in it by Kotone. It's good that the writers took the feedback to heart and/or got replaced but I feel like unless she's part of the phantom thieves main party after the reset the devs aren't gonna have much time to focus her. In fact if we reset hard enough maybe that'd be a good time to get rid of her injury entirely and stop her from being so job focused to begin with. I honestly think that would be the best case scenario.
>>569985542I don't have her but if it's something that builds passively each turn like P5D beat stacks then yeah it should.
>>569985616Dude, just drop it. Side events have more freedom for non-main motivation or are you seriously implying that giving her a hobby like knitting is beyond the "freedom" that only main characters have, with side characters like Kurotani or Masaki dismissing that nonsense? Nobody denies the mindset that a character should be better but giving up time for her after the last two years have done nothing for her and making it three years with very good odds continuing the trend should send a good signal on it.They stopped with the overshadowing bits past 1.0 but since she has nothing going for herself beyond the two bullet points, she will inevitably get repetitive or boring. You're gonna tell me that by some weird mindset or laid reasoning that she alone suffers from restrictions while virtually every other character from the same wave manages to stand out on their own in later events? You see how misguided the mindset sounds?
>>569985685Pierce should stack better with her so much of the speed stuff plays in Monts favor for maximum damage stacking.
Your arguments with each other hve gotten pretty embarrassing you both should just stop
Any ideas on what other materialization of the main evil in the story could come up as after the whale? Like a giant crow or idk, some fictional monster symbolizing some messed up mentality or sin of humanity?
>>569986578Make it a Snake.
>>569986578Unless it becomes SMT-tier of symbolic animal representation, I can't think of anything.
>>569980665I meant on the 110, just no good term for "toss some shit at the banner and see if you hit by 50 or so out of 110".
What will be the cat girl's persona?
>>569987968Cait Sith
>>569987968Keyboard cat
>>569984349No, Shunp is tailor made for Lucen. Luce eats his own hp for stacks to spend on his big nuke every 2nd turn while shun shares a part of his own hp with him so he can eat that too. Hes good outside of Luce teams too when you are held at gunpoint to run a sustain or else.
>>569984431Summer marian is the most important combo to run with her. After that its a1 turbo for extra turn abuse or twins. Ange as your navi until you can run fuuka+koro in the future. Miyu has quite a bit of depth to her kit, especially if you can afford her A1 which is one of the best in the game. It extends her applied buff durations one turn by hopping on the surfboard so you can stack a dumb amount of them. Still good at A0 too but the difference is very big.
>>569984431Go for Mitsuru.
They should do a Virtuoso Tomoko where she changes into different jobs for each role
>>569996097
>>569984431Summer Marian like the other response said will become vital big time for dedicated builds.
>>569996097Based
>>569987968Subs me cat myth or spirit from Japanese history.
>>569996097That's...actually a fun idea. She'd be healer as a pharmacy worker, a strategists as a bookstore worker etc.
>>569997609We need to spam the survey with this idea
>>569996097>The only ones reacting to it excitedly have the joke flying over their heads or encourage to compromise the surveyShould have worked a bit harder to get the punchline.
>>569987968>What will be the cat girl's persona?Bastet from the Egyptian mythology, fits Hiyori perfectly. Fierce defense and prosperity.>Fits a niche and overshadowed figure from history>Compliments Hiyori's characteristics>Can be shaped into an unique moveset that matches Cherish's defensive angle
>people shilling Summer Minami>they're going to be pissed off when she either doesn't work on Auto or burns your money on Auto>everyone on manual is just going to get sick of extra menu bloat and menu scrolling just to do what other characters do with 1 actionListen, I think her swimsuit is great, she brings all the shotas to the yard. It's insane that someone with her body is in a first year like Kasumi and Futaba.But ain't nobody gonna not get impatient and pissed at her gameplay real fuckin quick.
>>570001430Winrar.
>>570001430That's not a bad choice but I don't think running a defensive Idol in that manner will sell. Make it more a hybrid that enhances one of two use cases depending if you go offensive or defensive.
>>569986102Tell me what supposed extra depth was added to other characters. Rin just focused on CNY which was expected. Kurotani never has depth in any event stories or even the main story it's just a good quirk so people like it. The only launch characters that have had added depth since launch are main characters which further proves my point that side characters struggle to make space for themselves to develop extra depth. I don't think "knitting" counts as depth either and having her start knitting randomly in an event story would just be out of place unless there was a reason to focus on it.
>>570001639>shotacuckThis explains your terrible taste. If you're autoing then you shouldn't be bothering with her specific items to begin with. Unless you're some gacha/claw machine autist there's no use for money right now outside of buying gifts so her cheap buffs are a non issue unless you're doing hundreds of runs to try and get a perfect run and even then it's 160yen per buff you're not exactly breaking the bank. The summer event also provides an opportunity to get lots of money too.
>>570004738>seethes>ignores the longest point that even on manual this means a lot more pointless menu bloat that takes 5x longer than a normal turn
>>570005506Looking closer it appears the character you posted is from fate so it makes sense that you're a cuck>5x longer>purely to scroll down like 7 times every 2 or 3 turnsI hope you'll get over the extra 1 second max it takes to scroll down to the item you need. If you weren't talking out of your ass you'd know A1 summer puppet can extend buffs so Summer Minami having access to all her buffs helps increase her damage and therefore isn't "bloat"
>>570006684>that he will benchI'm still using her on TW right now at A0 but you don't know shit so of course you don't know that. She's not annoying you just have extreme autism. You ignored my point explaining the entire reason for her having access to all her options because you never knew lmao. You're the type of person who hates shorter patches because he's playing other games while half assing this one. Nobody is gonna take your advice seriously. Wait a minute...>tab to swap menusoh no no he doesn't know you just press alt when he special buff that lets her use a free item is ready and it takes you straight to the items OH NO NO NO LMAO it's no different from turbo using 2 skills in a row
>>570004168Where did I mentioned "Depth" once in that post? Characteristics and hobbies were the main point, which is something even she fails at. For the other parts:>Yaoling is good at cooking and tries out new cafes whenever she can>Kurotani has a kinship for finding clues identical to Naoto, has a sweet toothIf they struggle so much then why are dominantly side characters in the top 5 of complete synergies, especially Kurotani and Yaoling who are third and first place? Don't say they aren't as deep when there are enough moments in the game, points debated on their official pages and during cutscenes (All of which aren't utilized in favor of Four-eyes).How come most hobbies of the side characters are known and actually utilized or even talked about in-game but not her? Don't come at me with demands for her to be include in the main story if you can't even bring up a single trait that is supposed to define her, not her jobs or the player but her.
>>570006134I agree with u on Miami dude (I need her for my beloved Berry), but I will NOT tolerate this Kama slander.
>>570007413Maybe she is a bit less obnoxious in practice.If so, good, then I misunderstood the UI situation.The fact remains people should at least be mindful rather than just doing as reddit commands.
>>570007503Her main hobby is baseball we already know this. The entire point of her just doing jobs is because she's lost after having her main passion taken away from her. She clearly enjoys helping people because it's not like she couldn't get along fine with just the singular job and in a way having multiple jobs lets her try multiple different things to see what she might be interested in like making shaved ice at the beach or working at the flower shop (which requires knowledge of flowers) or working at the book store which is kind of interesting but the devs haven't committed her to any specific path at the moment which is why it feels unsatisfying for a lot of people. It also leads me to believe they're just waiting for something to happen before committing her to a specific interest or something because she shows up enough times that it makes me suspicious.
>>570007937Honestly I have no idea who that is I just know people say that about fate fans and along with him talking about shotashit it made sense>>570008379I typo'd but she gets a buff like turbo where you press alt and it takes her straight to a menu with the items with the stuff at the top being the good buffs she uniquely boosts. The first 3 are infinite generic buffs and below are her paid buffs which with her synergy are only 160 yen each. I didn't roll her for meta reasons either she's hot and I will roll both her and Miyu despite the fact the latter seems kinda power crept.
>>570008774>Her main hobby is baseball we already know this. The entire point of her just doing jobs is because she's lost after having her main passion taken away from her.Then how come she doesn't had anything found anything even after reaching the conclusion of her own synergy? Why not becoming something like an assist to an baseball team, giving her connecting piece with Motoha? The Persona series itself had examples of it, Ai from 4 was one despite doing it unwillingly for more self-centered reasons over helpful reasons. You'd think that after multiple chapters inbetween that something would give her some resemblance of commitment but no, she's still as vague with her progression from finding a track as she was in the beginning. Nothing has come that she could commit to and the longer it takes, the more disconnected it will feel. This is stupid to even continue debating.
>>570008774Can you please just accept that not anyone will sign up on your views? You come off as "Give it time or give her more time and they might give her something real"
Can you two losers stop having a hissy fit at each other.
>>570008774Now you're coming across as excessive. She hasn't changed in any story or event after so long, she's just the result of a poor character. I'm done with getting my hopes up with a character that is virtually left in a stasis, she's a lost cause.
>Still trying to bend itIf she gets an event or story content again then we'll talk but if it is the same shit like jobs and not something like "I'm off, picked up a game of Lasertag with some classmates" or other things that show her having an life or an character beyond jobbing or dumping, just pack your stuff up and drop it, it won't do you good. If she can't even have a single hobbies like every other fucking character when what business does she have in the main story beyond her relevancy past kiuchi? Her hobbies are one-offs as well which lack any continuity or aren't even brought afterwards unlike a later chunk of characters even from her own wave.
>>570008547Tomoko was driving that truck
>>570008774My man just drop it. That's not a fight you win with stubbornness. Poor writing comes from poor writing or from bad characters, that's it. What you're suggesting is warming up something packed up in the fridge. Might be nice but won't taste as good when it was directly out of the oven.
>Anons clawing the glasses lover apartBrutal but it was long overdue to lay it all out.>>569924473Lover arcanas are somewhat more lengthy on average, even in the P2/P1 Era you could see the distinct length difference between arcs and moments like Eri and Lisa.
>>570001430>Can be shaped into an unique moveset that matches Cherish's defensive angleIsn't her side quest more about wanting to get involved, as in the offensive/initiative type? The idea of her kit is fine but giving it firepower will mix better with the whole rebellion tone that each Idol/member emits.
>>570009237I’d expect there’s a fair amount of crossover between Persona fans and Fate fans, what with the urban fantasy, romance, and use of historical/mythological characters (even if Personas don’t have much in the way of character). Just saying you might want to watch your step lol.While I’m here though, I might as well say that I actually don’t usually like rolling for summer characters in gachas, a nice pair of tits are a dime a dozen. FGO is an exception because they actually do interesting things to justify their variants, like emphasizing different legends or characters traits. Basically, yes Summer Minami is hot, but I wouldn’t roll for her if she wasn’t BiS for Berry. Now Summer Berry though, that I would roll for.
>>570010151>Isn't her side quest more about wanting to get involved, as in the offensive/initiative type?You're right, that suits her more.
>>570010312>Now Summer Berry though, that I would roll for.How should her kit vary?
New premium pass outfit, kinda cute
>>570001430A good idea but make it more detailed.>Element?>Output? (E.g Support/Damage?)
>>570009351The problem is that with this being a gacha game not all players, especially new ones, will have her rank 20 synergy done. Even in mainline games I'm not even sure they acknowledge max rank bonds much outside of a few romance cases and even then one of the main criticisms of romance in persona is that the main story barely acknowledges your relationship outside of specific determined romance events. Maybe the devs will force it at some point and I think they should but that's just how it is.>>570009607I can understand not having faith in the writers. She definitely feels frozen but that's partially why I feel like they might thaw her out for the next cycle or something but I can understand why you'd think otherwise.>>570009490I understand why you wouldn't be hopeful. I'm not asking anyone for hope I'm just giving my opinion.>>570009828>Food analogyBut yes it would be better if the devs didn't focus her synergy so much on Kotone and also committed having her find her interest even if players hadn't complete her bond 20. She definitely feels stuck in a limbo like they don't know whether they actually want to do that or wait for the next loop.
>>570010429It's fine but honestly, not gonna dump over 10 euros every pass for something that eventually could be recreated with the dye.Are they ever gonna change the content of the +pass?
>>570010312>A nice pair of tits is a dime a dozenNot in P5X though most default outfits are very conservative compared to most gachas
>>570008547Could've sworn that it was a regular car or did they changed it in the global version?
>>570010847Yeah when summer minami drops they stop doing outfits and give you 5 salamander coins + other stuff instead. Same update lets you buy limited weapons of reran characters for 20
>>570010847Yes, from what I understand it stops being outfits and becomes in game phone backgrounds in the premium pass eventually.
Are they gonna make the shop attendant lady a playable character in the future? Pretty sure her moveset would be compromised of just money gimmicks?
>>570011114>>570011143I take the coins over the outfits everytime, giving fuel to already pulled characters is more preferable than a visual mix-up.
>>570010429Nigga’s dressed like Mrs. Doubtfire lmao
>>570010958Went through some older posts on the chinese social media accounts and yes, seems like they made one change atleast by going from car up to an truck.
>>570010428Our only Curse Sweeper is Joker from launch, so maybe have her creep him? Alternatively make her a busted support (maybe DoT specific?) so I can run Berry both my teams and have a longer meta lifespan on one.
>>570012124Or become a massive Curse assist to signal her opening up to the endless reach of the summer amidst the darkness?
>>570012340I’d take it. Or do something with her schizo personalities.
>>570012340>Standard Rin powercreepIt's about time
>>570012637>Switches elemental kit every turn automatically between day and night versions>Day is on the supportive side>Night is the offensive nutcase version of herself
>>570012736Yeah I guess you could pack her full of mental ailments, would suit the crazy. I suppose I could accept changing her to Psy to synergize, but I do like the edge of Curse.
>>570013306Sounds like the opposite of Koromaru. I can see the psy angle especially if the devs think she'll tread on Koromaru's toes too much. I do wonder if they'll ever rework mental ailments because they made elemental status effects that work in a gacha setting then did absolutely nothing with mental effects and most bosses are immune.
>>570011632WTF did the car just morph through the people behind her?
>>570001639whats wrong with her on auto? i mean im still gonna be pulling her anyway >>570010645 but just curious
>>570014226It's Japan anon, it's full of asian drivers
>>570014050Could alternatively have a unique debuff that counts as a mental ailment, but can stick to bosses. Would give permanent utility for Psy DPS.
>>570019004>Tomoko's jobs were to fund her gambling addiction all alongWhat a twist!
>>570019004>get paid big bucks for all these extra appearances>she just spends it all back on the gamelmao
>>570019004Tomoko supports this game more than the person who shits on her kek
>>570014809>Could alternatively have a unique debuff that counts as a mental ailment, but can stick to bosses. Would give permanent utility for Psy DPS.With her and Naruru being supposedly discussed by each other, it could create an utility niche like 5* Shun enabling 5* Luce to the maximum.
>>570020123Those socks and shoes really do it for me. I'm not even a footfag I just like that combination.
>>569877784This has my interest as well, is a wallpaper really worth compromising a poll like that?
>>569876278The devs said top 5 will get a wallpaper but as we discussed earlier the poll system they chose is dog shit. It should have been tied to in game account progression. Bonus points if you can only vote for characters you've rolled for excluding NPCs of course.
>>570021015>>570021339The way they worded it made it seem like everyone will get to vote multiple times later anyways so I’m not really sure what the hell they’re doing
>>570022302Considering this is the first type of poll for global, wouldn't shock me if this is like a trial run to see if Google-tied systems would be sufficient enough. Then again, tying the voting right to your progress in-game is more feasible and valuable.
>>570021339Is it going to be an individual wallpaper or one featuring all 5 characters? If it’s combined, it will be funny if Kiuchi makes the list
>>570025683Not sure but I'd assume separate
>>570010428Make her a dual element dps and have her switch between them to build up to a big attack. Give her an enormous Trident as a weapon. Make sure her outfit changes completely when doing so and not into a lazy color swap.
>>570014564Nothing, she works fine and prioritizes the free item buffs (att% and dmg%).
>>570019004>>570019276>>570019449>>570019945Based
>>570027312>Give her an enormous Trident as a weapon. Make sure her outfit changes completely when doing so and not into a lazy color swap.It will be a blue to black pallet swap and you will rike it.
Will the Tomoko schizo ever stop talking to itself?
>>569701448I had a sudden crave for Persona, I tried it a bit on day one for a week and then quit, did anything happen from then that's worth mentioning?
>>570029453
>>570034225They replaced the Chinese writer with one of the Atlus writers and now the writing is closer to other Persona games, especially P5 now (whether that's good or bad depends on you). Newer characters have fancier kits and are more fun to play but that's par for the course for most gacha games.
So today was the last early anniversary present even though there’s 19 days left? There was nowhere near enough tickets to clear out the shop.
>>570039814No fuckin shit you were supposed to make choices. The extra time is just for people who joined late or miss days so you can get all the rewards. Newer players also get more tickets too and I think on anni you might be able to buy tickets I can't remember though
>>570010429Why pink?
>>570043490Dunno, perhaps these alternate colors are more your fancy
>>570043490To make you buy the clothing spray paint of course
>>570043490Pride month
>>570010429>>570044052I've been struggling to find an outfit that looks good and doesn't make Wonder look like a lesbian and this certainly doesn't help
>>570044807>courseWill Motoha get a new outfit?
>>570045815She puts the banana suit on and rams it up Wonder's ass
>>570045954Shouldn't she be ramming up Riko? If Wandah was gonna be pegged I'd assume it was Marope or Turbo
>>570044920The first premium pass outfit is still the best one imo
>>570046632I consider anything going up a dude's ass to be fag shit. I was also joking yet you seem to earnestly enjoy this conversation therefore I am ending it. Goodbye.
>>570047557You probably shouldn't post your homosexual thoughts on 4chan if you don't want a response in kind. I posted about Motoha and your first thought was about putting something in Wonders assholeI think we both know where that seething anger comes from and I hope you get the help you clearly need
>>570049791>angerit was clearly a joke nigga don't be an armchair psychologist because you're too autistic to recognise obvious jokes
>>570050060You shouldn't hate yourself so much, it's pride month
>>570050521kek you're just a fag who thought he was good company because I made a joke. I'm sure the average persona tourist on twitter will welcome you with open arms. All the in game age gap relationships are based btw and I know it makes you seethe that they exist. Straight men are the target audience of persona and always have been.
I Wonder
>>570050109imagine the smell
>>570050880I struck a nerve, I'm sorry. It must be hard being mentally assaulted with crazy assumptions and your secret gay thoughts about Wonder You randomly bring up age gaps is interesting too as the guy community is VERY into that at the illegal level, but I'm sure you already knew that ;p
>>570050109Realistically in what scenario would they do this for Wonder?
>>570053024Half the game is Wonder's schizo delusions you don't need to explain anything
>>570052997>more faggy projection and somehow bragging that gay dudes like yourself are pedophiles irlWow you sure showed me man. That's not concerning at all. I do not concern myself with fag culture so I don't even know if you're lying but I would assume so.
>>570052867Feet don't smell. They're just like hands for your legs.
>>570050109I thought Ange can’t walk
>>570053850>pretending to no be a pedoKek
>>570056084have you even done her synergy
>>570056096You are the one who confessed to being a pedophile in retaliation for me pointing out the fictional age gap relationships for straight men that fags like you get mad over. I must tell you once again that you are not in good company you're just a self admitted gay pedophile.
>>570056603If liking Riddle makes me gay then I guess I'm the gayest man in this thread. I accept your concession.Have a nice day :)
>>570057497Gay/bisexual is the same shit. You're the one who used his intimate knowledge of homosexual groups to say that they're pedos irl. Please stop projecting it's pathetic but what can I expect from a mobilefag.
IT’S UPhttps://youtu.be/GpZO7BHV8QY
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>>570062816>>570064725medications are needed
>>570064725sex
When do Tartarus runs end? Is there a top floor? Do you just go until you die?I just want this to end so I can start a new run and start collecting Yukari shards for her story...
buying aojiru isn't worth it if you're maxed out right?
>>570074342No
>>570074342Buying aojiru is barely worth it if you aren't maxed. At max it's terrible.At max social stat you are spending ¥600 for 1/200th of a random gift that is roughly 2/3rds gold rarity 1/3rd purple rarity, maybe average retail value of ¥20k. Spending ¥120k for a random ¥20k you might not even still need is super bad.
What the fuck is her problem
>>570063685IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
>>570071558Shoki's mom has got it going on~singing doowa diddy diddy dum diddy doo
>>570050109Manaka's feet, so soft and dainty, perfect contrast with her grandma's wrinkly and rough soles.
>>570073296Floor 19 was the end, just in case anyone was wondering.
Shoot... now, which Antiques are recommended to unlock first?I just did that necklace because it was one of the time-limited event missions, but beyond that, I'm not sure which offers the greatest benefit.
