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Reminder to report and ignore shitposters
>/drg/ OP pastebin (just copy it and paste previous thread link)
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>Danganronpa News, Interviews and Articles
Latest: Danganronpa 2x2 coming in 2026
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3751230/Danganronpa_2x2/

Famitsu Article for Danganronpa 2x2 on September 15, 2025
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202509/52362

Old news updated 23/7/22: https://pastebin.com/pnwKUj3d

>/drg/'s spoiler-free guide for the series *MUST READ IF YOU ARE NEW*
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>in the event of pastebin getting nuked
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Best mage Himiko! I hope you all have a wonderful day! For those of you posting about how much you love your waifu or husbando I have a message for you They love you too
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goodnight /drg/
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The grass of the neighbours really is looking greener ngl
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I am being bombed btw
If I die
Just remember me for striving for Quality Posting and e-ass
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Love them.
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>>569784096
And by neighbors you mean /thlg/?
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>>569784271
Do you genuinely believe I am speaking about the hundred line? Today of all days? Really?
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>>569784271
Today is 6/7.
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>>569784361
Fuck you btw
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>>569784598
Adam chill out, so you got expoed by Nagitofag just take the L and move on.
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I love my super nintendo!
But there is no time, the world needs a hero!
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Is it sad if 2x2 is the only thing I look forward to in my life?
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>>569784547
Fuck you
Go dance with the angels
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>>569784979
Yes.
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>>569785018
No.
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>>569785229
Kids these days
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>>569785229
They really want this game dead.
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BOOB-aede
SEX-kamatsu
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>>569785229
>getting a lot of 'boss baby' vibes from this
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I won
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>>569783803
Ibuki thread
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>>569783803
The bookster booki.
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>>569785360
I think those people got a taste of power with how they took down Tetro and PEG and now want to see how far it can be taken
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>>569786823
How do you "most likely" look like someone?
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>>569786823
if spikesoft does sue them, it might be a grave day
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Reminder Kazuichi is surviving 2x2!!
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>>569786823
Breasticle jumpscare.
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It's kinda funny that Imposter ends up completely totally irelevant in his own game. You'd think he'd have done something behind the scenes because of how competent he was being and his last message to Hajime, but no.
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>>569785229
Stupid brat needs correction
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>>569787717
That is literally the joke.
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How do you get an e-gf?
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>>569787882
yeah but its not a good one so it's only kinda funny
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>>569786823
>SEGGSUALIZATION
You should have to be 18 to use the Internet.
That should be the law.
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>>569788079
You could do the Adam pay-to-win method but that is determined by how much money is in your bank account.
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>>569786823
>>569785229
Why do they think that the writer designed the characters?
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>>569788195
I'm not paying a dime
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>>569788107
i've theory crafted some ways to filter for intellectual maturity across the web in image forums, but executing them is the hard part
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>>569788354
Are you at least white?
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(^. .^)Ⳋ
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>>569788656
RAPE RAPE RAPE
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>>569787717
Don't forget that he's actually the remnant that arguably did the most damage
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>>569788652
Yeah
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No announcement? I guess 2x2 really is cancelled.
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>>569787717
Speaking of imposter, do you think we will actually get to see him revealed as his true self outside of the people hes impersonating in the new game?
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>>569789808
It seems likely. I think he has a good chance of making it to 4 or 5 and since he'd probably be the culprit or victim of a late game murder, his confusing talent would likely come up.
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>>569784598
What have I done to have deserved this?
>>569786823
And I think some people really are paid to talk about this game here bc no way in hell you are having this much fun talking about kumitantei of all games. You can't be doing this for the love of the game
PEG at least had quality
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>>569790659
You're just mad Kumitantei has no bears for you to swoon over
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>>569790659
Maybe he's a homophobe.
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>>569790574
If he did become a killer for instance, the way I see it is that he will probably reveal himself after his trial has finished. Knowing kodaka, I wouldn't put that past him if that ended up being the case.
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>>569791067
He has an extremely good chance of being a sympathetic killer like Gundham or possibly even more like Chiaki or Gonta and even he doesn't know he did it.
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>>569790910
I think the only one here that's accurate above the normal person tiers is Hiyoko because she doesn't have any other way to shit with her kimono and doesn't wear socks and even then she probably wears underwear that she'd pull down to her legs.
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>>569790910
I'd love to see Miss Sonia shit bare nude
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>>569790771
I'm not mad, it's just pure disbelief someone out there is really this dedicated into talking about >KUMITANTEI< here. I mean come on, how much Aeris Akamatsu paid you for it? O maybe... could it be the actual Aeris Akamatsu? I'm sure anons would love to know there's a new white femanon here
>>569790963
On pride month too...
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Femanons, how do girls in those long dresses poop? Isn't it really annoying and time consuming to take off the entire thing? And then you have to put it back on... sounds like sticking to pants and skirts is way easier. Personally, I don't even think they're that pretty.
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>>569786823
wow I think a lotta ppl dunno what kumitantei is, but is **IS** a danganronpa fangame, it's NOT a non-danganronpa-related game, and the fact that the creators use so much danganronpa references and STILL don't say it's a danganronpa fanmade AND makes the game buyable
>1) makes it become a copy like idk how to explain it but it's just a fraud like ur making ppl PAY for a fangan, UR GAME IS **NOT** ORIGINAL, it does NOT deserve money, that's straight up stealing the danganronpa copyrights atp
>2) okay so basically at first I saw this trailer (the one with the purple haired man) and honestly it looked really quite interesting, I genuinely loved the artstyle a lot, BUT THEN I SAW IT WAS A BUYABLE DANGANRONPA FANGAME, A BUYABLE FANGAME, like ur not even giving money to
>3) the danganronpa creators, UR LITERALLY MAKING IT **UR ORIGINAL** CREATION, WHILE IT ISN'T AT ALL
>4) in all honesty even after nyx's drama I still somehow wanted to watch a let's play of the game to see how it was, since they removed her from the team, BUT THEN THE FCKASS FATSHAME & ABLEIST DRAMA CAME INTO MY FACE and I was like "ok ykw fck that I'm just gonna continue dratL"
I had to read it so you also have to.
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>>569791763
>Aeris Akamatsu
>new
Oh to be a newfag.
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>>569791830
>how do girls in those long dresses poop?
Idk but I'd love to watch
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>>569791310
There is a killer scenario I have for imposter and that being: killing someone out of self defence. I feel like he would do his best to protect himself. he would rather himself take the blame instead of everyone else getting the hammer. Which is something that could likely happen if executed correctly.
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>>569791763
People elsewhere started flipping their shit over it so people here started liking it out of spite
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>>569792131
Do you think Kazuichi begged Byakuya to at least describe Sonia in the bathroom to him
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>>569792229
It could work and makes sense but you'd probably have to contrive a reason for the trial to happen. Like Imposter is conked out afterwards or its a Kaito thing where he's trying to use the trial to expose the mastermind and plans to give himself up but needs to buy time.
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>>569792105
I'm going to new this fag into you
>>569792274
Now that I think of, you are right... That is the only logical reason
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>>569792556
>Like Imposter is conked out afterwards
So like, he gets attacked by a random student, he fights back with all his strength while half conscious after being striked in the head, he makes a wrong move and ends up killing the attacker out of panic/on accident. He drops to the ground after and soon hes found passed out next to the body by everyone else. Something like that maybe?
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>>569787226
>Wrong. Most characters in DR have very clear flaws or struggles that most of the time affect the story. That's just good writing.
Okay, name the character flaw for every character in any DR game of your choosing and how it affected the story. I'd love to hear the flaws for most of them.
>Only in the most rudimentary definition. Many self-inserts are not Mary Sues and vice versa.
Yes but you seem to call everything you don't like a Mary Sue. Also there are no Mary Sues who are not self-inserts. That term is specifically designed for self-insert characters.
>Sonia is badly written because you can remove her from the story and very little would change.
Gundam is badly written because you can remove him from the story and very little would change. What I said just now is retarded. I like Gundam.
>What kid of argument is that? Do you think a character automatically become interesting from getting involved in romance?
Yes.
>Her fling with Gundham is barely ever present for more than a joke, anyway.
That's interesting. And it gave some extra drama to the story.
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>>569792346
No.
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>>569793340
Something like that, yeah. Alternatively, because of whatever fuckass motive is going on or because he gets fucking stabbed, he gets some time to "organize" the crime scene because he needs to hide something from the mastermind or the other students for the greater good, and succumbs to his injuries shortly afterwards. Could even be a hospital trial grounds and have Imposter in a bed on life support while it's going on. Then have him wake up after he's "IT CAN ONLY BE YOU"'d or the intermission
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Nintendo Direct on the 17th of June and they will reveal the Danganronpa release date with a new trailer
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>>569793587
>Yes but you seem to call everything you don't like a Mary Sue
NTA, he's not the guy that called Kyoko a boring Mary Sue. That would be me. For the record, I do like Sonia because she's funny lol. I think she could have been handled better though.
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>>569792346
He probably begged him to show him the video footage in the FF HQ so he could jerk off
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>>569793845
Yep, it's gonna be great.
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>>569792346
>>569794049
You do realize that once they wake up from the simulation they get their memories back, right? Kazuichi and Sonia were literally a couple during their time as Ultimate Despair so they fucked countless times. There's a reason why DR3 ended with them together again.
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>>569793845
Do you think we'll see anything interesting in the trailer or will they just do some glitchy outro at the end and pretend that's SHOCKING NEW INFORMATION.
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>>569793785
One thing that I forgot to mention is that considering his size, I feel like from the adrenaline rush he could knock someone out to death instead of a basic weapon (because haha, danganronpa doesn't do fingerprint scans or anything along those lines) unless...you want to switch it up and he ends up knocking his foe unconscious with him and someone else comes along and puts a knife through the attackers body, framing imposter as the killer, perhaps?
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>>569794363
The way the game works practically anything they show of the new content will be a massive spoiler
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>>569794284
>Kazuichi and Sonia were literally a couple during their time as Ultimate Despair so they fucked countless times.
Maybe in Kazuichi's fanfiction sure
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>>569794494
This is why I hope they don't show much of anything.
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>>569794363
They will show all of the new character designs and some of their sprite animations, some of the reworked old locations, a few minigames and a CG or two
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>>569794378
>because haha, danganronpa doesn't do fingerprint scans or anything along those lines
In the Mastermind's defense, they know it would make it too easy so they ensure no fingerprint powder is ever allowed in the killing game lol.
But Imposter definitely actually has a lot of interesting things they could do with him; another thing that never comes up is he can change his voice on a whim. So you could have a segment where all the lights are turned out and someone like Chiaki or whoever (a girl is funnier) is talking to the protag and the lights are out so they can't tell who they're really talking to. That would be a fun reveal in trial. Especially if Lie Bullets come back.
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>>569794046
I get that saying "X is bad" has less impact than "X is Mary Sue" but Mary Sue doesn't automatically make that character bad. Just call Kyoko shit or I will get on your case again. vid explains how a self-insert can be good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIFPo-6Nsw
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>>569795030
She's still a Mary Sue to me. That will never change.
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What if I made a Mary Sue self-insert but I'm really just that cool?
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>>569794870
>another thing that never comes up is he can change his voice on a whim
That's also something fun to play around with. If he was willing enough to kill someone else and not have the killing turned on him, he could use it to his advantage and make the trial more complicated. Maybe he can mimick more than one voice to mess things up a little to show off his talent (shedding more light on him and his character overall)

But, I honestly prefer the first approach more. Its either hes killing someone by accident or he gets framed. I can't imagine him killing someone else because he wants to, you know?
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>>569795854
I agree, I don't like the idea of "mean" Imposter killer. It could still come up though if it's something like he needs to mislead the class for a good reason. 5th Chapters always have something weird with the "killer" going on.
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>>569795370
is it because you self-insert as her
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Just came 9 thick ropes
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>>569791830
Now imagine women have to wear long dresses every day. This is why they hated the patriarchy so much.
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>>569796193
>5th Chapters always have something weird with the "killer" going on.
That's one thing im worried about for 2x2's arrival. Predicable things like chapter 3 cases and the classic chapter 5 "final boss moment" is way too common. If we're getting a new game, I'd expect some game changing twists and turns as each chapter goes on. But we shall see.
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>>569796408
Technically Mary Sues don't have to be exclusive with self inserts. I always thought it would be funny to write a story with a gross stinky fat pervert guy and then in an interview claim him as my self insert.
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>>569789808
My own guess is that he'll be the chapter 4 or 5 victim. Monokuma will reveal the presence of the Ultimate Imposter among them (maybe even revealing his identity too), and doing so in such a way that causes everyone to assume that the imposter and the traitor are the same person, and he gets killed as a result, maybe even a suicide to sacrifice himself for the rest of the group.
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>>569795030
>E;R
This guy is an edgy /pol/tard that spends more time in his videos shitposting than making any sort of coherent argument. Also wasn't he a Death Note fanboy making excuses for why it was okay when Light does it?
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>>569797019
and if that fat stinky gross guy got all the girls a mansion and became the president to make skinny people illegal, that would be wish-fulfilment. Or a Gary Stu for fat fucks. If he was an average fat guy then, yeah, he's just you in your story. A self-insert. But not a Stu as they have to be loved by everyone ect.
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>>569798058
>that would be wish-fulfilment. Or a Gary Stu for fat fucks
At some point I think it'd loop into comedy or horror.
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>>569797176
>maybe even a suicide to sacrifice himself for the rest of the group.
Its either one or two things:
>suicide from going crazy
>the example you had given
For the first example, there could be moments where he feels he had failed to protect the ones he cares about, watching other students hes close to drop dead slowly makes him spiral into insanity, which would naturally cause a death only on himself because he believed he could've been a much better as the protector he swore to be. The thought of it alone makes me quite sad. But it would be a very bitter death.
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>>569798276
I fucked up this paragraph but that's okay.
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>>569791830
Normally, you just need to pull dress and keep it high.
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>>569798246
One man's wish fulfilment is another man's comedy, it's why men laugh at Twilight so much.
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>>569793587
>Okay, name the character flaw for every character in any DR game of your choosing and how it affected the story.
Sayaka and Leon are both opportunistic, which lead to the first case
Mondo is impulsive and Chihiro is naive, which lead to the second case
Celestia hates herself and Hifumi is gullible, which lead to the third case (and Kiyotaka is a poorly-written character)
Sakura accepted Monokuma's offer and Aoi was both devoted to her and impulsive, which lead to the fourth case, and also as a bonus Byakuya is antosocial and incapable of understanding why someone would act differently from him, which makes him arrive to the wrong conclusion and reconsider his attitude
Kyoko is shady and antisocial, which Junko uses to pit the group against her where she can only be saved by a suicidal gamble from you, which makes her become more open with you
Yasuhiro doesn't have a lot of story relevance aside from getting framed, but he's a comic relief getting his shit pushed in all the time
Toko sucks in THH but she's still pretty evidently flawed
>Also there are no Mary Sues who are not self-inserts.
That's circular reasoning because you define Mary Sue as a self-insert. I don't agree with the definition. Either way, Sonia is not exactly a Mary Sue, but she's boring exactly because of her lack of flaws or meaningful struggle.
>Gundam is badly written because you can remove him from the story and very little would change.
No? The entire fourth chapter would change without Gundham because unlike Sonia, he actually does things.
>Yes.
You have shipfag brainrot if you unironically believe simply attaching a character to another is the way to make them interesting.
>That's interesting. And it gave some extra drama to the story.
The only serious scene with them I remember is Gundham giving Sonia the hamsters. And Sonia just gets over him immediately, it has no effect on her actions in the next chapters. Which would be fine, if she had something else, but she doesn't.
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>>569787259
if spike was gonna sue them, why would they wait until after the game already is out and selling? they've been advertising kumi for like 3 years and did a kickstarter, no attempt to hide.
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>>569799582
>and Chihiro is naive
Ok he really couldn't expect Mondo would bash his face in upon learning he was a boy. That's a huge jump in logic that no one could predict. Mondo wasn't even acting all that murderous beforehand.
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>>569799864
If it's not Piccolo shooting a Special Beam Cannon into Charlie Kirk's neck then I will be very disappointed in him.
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>>569799864
No man is pure, but that's not really a big issue so if I were to think he was previously pure I'd still think he was.
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>>569799864
If this is true then hes not alone on with this one. I want to get a custom shirt with impact font that says "cum in me bro".
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>>569799984
I mean if I was Chihiro I would expect Mondo would beat me up for being a huge faggot
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>>569800335
Alone on this one* fuck.
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I wanna get a shirt with Junko's feet on it that says "DON'T TALK TO ME UNTIL I'VE HAD MY MORNING GOON SESH"
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>>569800335
That's pretty gay.
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>>569790659
Kumitantei has soul and isn't westoid wokeshit, PEG didn't have soul and was westoid wokeshit. it's as simple as that.
>Aeris Akamatsu
how much do you actually think she did if they could easily fire her like that? her being the only white person on the team makes it pretty obvious they just used her to advertise the game with youtubers.
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>>569788574
We don't need to go as far as killing them.
Just ban them from the Internet.
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>>569800672
While walking around the local mall, I saw a shirt in Spencer's that was along the lines of "I love big tiddy goth girls" or something. I wanted to buy and maybe wear it, but my courage social stat was too low. Instead I got a Towelie hat that feels like a towel.
I would not be surprised if a shirt like the one you describe exists.
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>>569801006
We need to bring back kids mmos like Club Penguin and isolate them there, the internet got noticeably worse when the kids stopped being contained on their own websites.
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>>569801143
I want to wear a shirt like that and hang out around goth girls.
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>>569801143
I'm glad you didn't buy it because that would've been just about the most poseur NPC thing imaginable. You might as well wear a shirt saying "I LOVE BREAD"
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>>569801356
Danganronpa is the kids community that's isolating them from the rest of the internet though.
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>>569801442
If I got one it'd say "I love flatchested girls with big yummy asses" but I'm not brave enough to wear that in public.
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>>569801356
>We need to bring back kids mmos like Club Penguin and isolate them there
You forgot to mention that we should bring back parents stopping their kids from having access to the Internet. Its always been a shitshow for people underage, so it'd be nice to have some decent parenting involved.
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>>569801479
no wonder all of the groomers are into it
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>>569801385
Goth girls don't exist in 2026.
>>569801479
Also FNAF, and TADC, and Roblox...
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>>569800193
No but it's still a cool one, idk where he bought it tho
>>569800234
All men are pure, idk what you are talking about
>>569800335
Peak even though you need courage to wear it in public
>>569800910
All this and it still looks like shit? Woooow... maybe soul and lacking westoid wokeshit really are formulas for failure then
>>569801442
When I was hungry, I asked to my grandparents... "May I please have bread?"
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>>569800910
>makes it pretty obvious they just used her to advertise the game with youtubers.
But wasn't she considered a radioactive shit-stirrer before? That's how the devs defended her from the first cancellation attempt (her bad takes were from her dormant split personality or something similar) before she got fired by going after PEG team.
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>>569801442
Well...
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>>569801634
the real people we need to be killing are millennial parents
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I went online at like 7 years old but I was normal and didn't bother others.
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>>569801869
I agree with you.
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I'd wear a Seesaw Effect shirt
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>>569801732
>That immediately brings to mind the iconic and hilarious moment from the web series UNHhhh by World of Wonder featuring drag queens Trixie Mattel and Katya Zamolodchikova.In episode 74 ("Food"), when discussing childhood meals, Katya delivered that exact line with completely unhinged and frantic energy:
Man I was never going to understand this reference on my own. And they say AI is useless!
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>>569799582
I'll give you that DR1's cast is significantly more flawed than the rest but many of these "flaws" are only people acting out of desperation due to monokumas motives. Even Naegi had a brief flash where he wanted to kill to get out and see his family.
Sayaka, Aoi, Sakura, Mondo and Kyoko are more victims of circumstance than their own character flaws. Also devotion to a friend is not a flaw. From Aoi's perspective everyone else was fucking evil.
>That's circular reasoning because you define Mary Sue as a self-insert. I don't agree with the definition. Either way, Sonia is not exactly a Mary Sue, but she's boring exactly because of her lack of flaws or meaningful struggle.
I don't define a definition that has existed for decades. It has an established definition. Look it up. Just say Sonia is bad if you don't know what the term actually means.
>No? The entire fourth chapter would change without Gundham because unlike Sonia, he actually does things.
And if Sonia had pushed Nekomaru off of the stairs and killed him we would be having this conversation in reverse. Being plot relevant is one thing, being likeable is another. I liked Sonia. She was the potential killer in CH2 and CH5, a red herring. It was good writing to keep her around. And her quips are occasionally funny.
>You have shipfag brainrot if you unironically believe simply attaching a character to another is the way to make them interesting.
>The only serious scene with them I remember is Gundham giving Sonia the hamsters. And Sonia just gets over him immediately, it has no effect on her actions in the next chapters. Which would be fine, if she had something else, but she doesn't.
Everyone in the game gets over the death of their friends that's the tone of the game. It's not that serious. And romance is inherently interesting. Ask anybody. If you don't share this view that's fine, I like the extra sauce.
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When I was 10 I went onto Miiverse on my 2DS and did Pokemon Mystery Dungeon roleplay and now I'm a weird freak.
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>>569802209
>10
>2DS
Speaking of kids...
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>>569802209
>10
>2DS
Mods, throw this poster into a woodchipper
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>>569802112
Well you got the source right but it was actually Trixie who said it... It was also the beginning of the jokes with the swedish accent
https://youtu.be/jEiZQZgugQs
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>>569802446
>>569802541
The 2DS released in 2013, it's been 13 years since then guys...
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>>569802204
>From Aoi's perspective everyone else was fucking evil.
she was being an asshole for killing Makoto and Kyoko too though
she should have arranged a way to kill Hiro, Toko, and Byakuya at once or in succession, especially since she won't be breaking any rules until she kills the last one
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>>569802670
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cZtetnijXs
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>>569802446
>>569802541
The 2ds came out 13 years ago and I'm aged 20 so I got how young I was wrong.
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Wanted to read Danganronpa: Kirigiri before moving on but there's no way I'm going to read thousands of pages of side content for a character I don't even care about that much.
Guess we're doing V3 now.
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>>569802670
>13 years ago
Fuck...
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>>569802971
It's all just schlock about how cool Kyoko is and how hard the cases she's solving are anyway.
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>>569802446
>>569802541
>>569802670
>>569802826
idk how to tell you guys this but I don't think anyone on /drg/ in 2026 is old enough to remember 9/11
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>>569800910
>how much do you actually think she did if they could easily fire her like that?
People are blaming her for the character designs so they apparently think she did a lot.
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>>569802446
>>569802541
We love kids here
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>>569803082
Don't lump me in with you, pup.
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>>569803132
Kaede...
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>>569802971
Good luck on your playthrough anon. May Atua guide you.
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>>569802717
she was acting out of spite and did something rash, she was gonna die too, probably just needed a good talking too and everything would have been fine...
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A kid who was 9 when the Nintendo Switch came out could post here.
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>>569803415
Hot...
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>>569803415
4chan needs to raise the age requirement.
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>>569803082
I was 7 when 9/11 happened and I live in NYC. I remember it very well because we got a couple of days off of school when it happened.
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>>569802204
>many of these "flaws" are only people acting out of desperation due to monokumas motives
And that's fine. The point is the characters are actively struggling and doing something interesting, whether through external or internal conflict, or a mix of both. That's what stories should be striving to accomplish.
>I don't define a definition that has existed for decades. It has an established definition. Look it up.
I know about the Star Trek OC definition, I think it's too narrow and you can only apply it to fanfiction.
>And if Sonia had pushed Nekomaru off of the stairs and killed him we would be having this conversation in reverse.
Yeah, because then it would be a completely different circumstance. If Gundham was a 100% comic relief that does nothing but yell and larp the entire game, he would indeed be a strong contender for my least favorite character.
>It was good writing to keep her around.
I don't believe it's good writing to keep around a pointless character with no purpose in the story for the entire game (much less three of them). Especially in a story where you kill off more interesting characters along the way.
>And romance is inherently interesting. Ask anybody.
If I ask Peko or Maki fans, I think I'll hear that their characters were derailed by having to revolve around a guy instead of getting to be badass on their own right. If I ask Mukuro fans, I think I'll hear that her character was derailed by becoming a walking incest lesbian joke in the anime instead of doing something more interesting. So no, romance is not inherently interesting, you have to work to make it interesting. If you unironically a believe a character in the story should be defined by who they want to fuck and nothing else, you shouldn't write anything ever.
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If Hifumi was a girl and looked like this she'd be one of the most popular characters and people would go "omg she just like me"
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This is our oldest poster >>569803665
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>>569802971
>thousands of pages
There's no way a prequel Danganronpa book is thousands of pages.
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>>569804334
Our oldest poster is actually a 70 yo Kotokobro
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>>569804298
He may be hated, but he will always be perfect to me. No one can make me hate you, hifumi...
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>>569803112
she only joined the team in 2024, the fangan dates back to 2019
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Emo boys are free. You can just pick them up and take them home.
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>>569803665
mods!! there's a creepy old man making me uncomfortable!!
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>>569804478
The book isn't; the series is.
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>>569804525
This looks a lot better than the final game…
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>>569804525
MAN I wish this artstyle stuck
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>>569801356
They got roblox
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>>569804525
>>569804861
>>569804995
Yeah I like that they were actually trying to imitate Komatsuzaki's artstyle back then. But I guess you can't do that when you're trying to be legally distinct Danganronpa.
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Woah, this lady means BUSINESS!
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>>569804995
>>569804861
>>569805054
New art looks better. You guys are tripping.
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>>569805252
Do NOT talk to Kaede until she's taken her bull's cock first.
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>>569804861
that's how we know the current artstyle is intentional. they've had the same artist the whole time, they just wanted to make it look like rumiko takahashi
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>>569804334
I always thought that SF is the oldest femanon
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>>569805252
Didn't they bleep out Kage's name in the audition tape? Shouldn't his name be something else?
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>>569804525
I really like the old 40s cartoon style to this monokuma variant. Its a nice touch.
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>>569804525
this version of the weather girl + her current massive tits would have been peak. the art style change is one thing but no clue why they changed the outfits when it looks better here
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>>569804687
have sex with him
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>>569805475
Oumenofag is in her 30s, no way is SF that old
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>>569804298
>If [character] was [girl with big tits] then-
Yes. This isn't an original thought you've had.
Now post more Jinako.
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>>569805502
Part of the game's ending is that the audition tapes could have been faked. The prologue that we see purposefully doesn't line up with what they "remember".
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>>569804298
That's always the case.
You think people would like Miu if she was ugly?
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>>569805656
Maybe because she's a nurse
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>>569805502
But wasn't that Tsumugi's lie?
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>>569805608
she had a different talent then, on the wiki it says she used to be a clockmaker. the story was set in present day instead of the 1980s too
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>>569805730
>>569805785
I'm sure it was just a continuity error on kodaka's part.
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>>569804241
>And that's fine. The point is the characters are actively struggling and doing something interesting, whether through external or internal conflict, or a mix of both. That's what stories should be striving to accomplish.
Then this train of thought boils down to, "Gundam is good because the writer created a situation where he killed and Sonia is bad because she didn't" even though Gundam killing still feels like it was forced. He never ever harbored any intention to kill anybody. I don't agree with this reasoning. A character is much more than what he does in the plot.
>I think it's too narrow and you can only apply it to fanfiction.
But it's the real definition, people misuse it instead of looking up some other one. Just say Sonia is boring. That's your problem with her.
>I don't believe it's good writing to keep around a pointless character with no purpose in the story for the entire game (much less three of them). Especially in a story where you kill off more interesting characters along the way.
Akane and Kazuichi also could fill this role, and I'd say I like Sonia slightly more than both.

>If I ask Peko or Maki fans, I think I'll hear that their characters were derailed by having to revolve around a guy instead of getting to be badass on their own right. If I ask Mukuro fans, I think I'll hear that her character was derailed by becoming a walking incest lesbian joke in the anime instead of doing something more interesting. So no, romance is not inherently interesting, you have to work to make it interesting. If you unironically a believe a character in the story should be defined by who they want to fuck and nothing else, you shouldn't write anything ever.
And if you ask Gundam and Sonia fans they'd say they find the romance cute. What is this retarded whataboutism. You are putting words in the mouths of people I don't think would agree with you. Resetera called they want their retarded independent whamen arguments back.
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>>569804525
Yeah but nobody's going to bother checking that
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>>569805502
Hardcore Danganronpa fans as seen in Tsumugi's tape would not be talking like this after waking up in a school with bolted windows.
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>>569805915
Kodaka literally said play the interview when questioned about it and the stinger is Shuichi saying he doesn't believe them like Makoto said the other NWP victims would be fine.
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>>569806084
V3 is dogshit, please don't think about it
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>>569805502
>>569805730
>>569805915
This is a common misconception people have about the tapes, but logically just because a name is bleeped out doesn't mean he said a different name. The mastermind never outright states that their names got changed.
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>>569805443
Who's her bull?
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>>569806143
*play the prologue again when questioned in an interview
>>569806172
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO THINK ABOUT IT
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I believe Tsumugi, because I believe women.
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>>569806172
V3 is the best game.
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>>569806198
The more I think about it, the less sense it makes.

The argument is "the name was censored, this proves the tapes are fake".

But... why? Why would someone need to censor a fake tape that they themselves made? Did the tape say something that they didn't people to hear? But they made it. They could have just... not said the thing that they had to censor. It makes no sense.

But if you assume that the tapes ARE real, and that the "censorship" was just put in place for dramatic effect to enhance the entertainment value of the show, then everything is consistent.

The story literally only makes sense if you assume the tapes are real.
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>>569805947
>"Gundam is good because the writer created a situation where he killed and Sonia is bad because she didn't"
She didn't have to kill, she had to have any kind of story relevance. Not having pointless elements in your story is writing 101.
>A character is much more than what he does in the plot.
That's a very fandom-brained way of looking at things. Like yeah, you can like poorly-written characters and make fanfiction where you write them to realize their potential to your heart's content, but they're still poorly-written in the actual source material.
>Akane and Kazuichi also could fill this role, and I'd say I like Sonia slightly more than both.
Ok. They're all dead weight character-wise, but Akane and Kazuichi can be the butt of the joke occasionally, Sonia is too flawless for that.
>And if you ask Gundam and Sonia fans they'd say they find the romance cute.
Yeah, and most of them are teenage girls self-inserting as Sonia or autists self-inserting as Gundham.
>What is this retarded whataboutism. You are putting words in the mouths of people I don't think would agree with you.
Tons of people predict Peko outliving Fuyuhiko in 2x2, for one.
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>>569807386
>The story literally only makes sense if you assume the tapes are real.
yeah the prologue we the players objectively see happening with plenty of inconsistencies was all just a fever dream lol
no they definitely didn't need to censor the audition tapes when the entire point was to degrade the cast and drive home the point that they don't even know who they really are and only exist in the context of the game
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Is not that Sonia is badly written, she is just more normal and reserved in comparison to the funky campiness that are the other characters. Some of you really need to replay sdr2
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>>569806084
The cast was brainwashed twice, the first time is the prologue and it was a failed attempt.
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>>569807891
Or the cast was never brainwashed the first time and everyone there was normal.
>even Tsumugi and Keebo?
Yeah, unironically, who knows.
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With the existence of the flashblack lights anything is possible. Like so:

>You audition
>You get chosen, and you are hit with the light to get your new name but no talent
>You're then rounded up
>After everyone is gathered they all get their new wardrobe and talents
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>>569807731
There are actually no inconsistencies in the prologue.

>no they definitely didn't need to censor the audition tapes when the entire point was to degrade the cast and drive home the point that they don't even know who they really are and only exist in the context of the game
Explain why they couldn't do this without censoring the tapes? If the tapes are fake then they could have just made Shuichi say a different name. The wouldn't make Shuichi say his real name and then censor it to make it look like he said something else.

Or to look at it another way - why didn't they just change their names for real?
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>>569808352
If there are infinite possible explanations, but the story only gives you one explanation, that's probably the explanation that the author expects you to believe.
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The vagueposting KING.
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>>569807838
I mean, she is a little boring. Which is why she should get some extra character growth to show off her potential in the future. This may be a shit opinion, but I don't care. I think she should be a fake out heroine. Where she's good at solving cases for 2 chapters then turns against everyone and gets creative with a murder she had planned from her experiences with the last two trials she took part in.
>learn what and what not to do when starting a murder
>combine that logic with her own on true crime
>= decent potential?
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>>569808812
No, that's a good idea and Sonia is pretty likely to be a third case culprit in 2x2.
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>>569808965
>WE ARE THE MONOKUBS
The Monokubs vs The Butt-Ugly Martians, who wins?
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We're not gonna get answers unless they release V2 so we can see what Rantaro went through during his killing game. But if 2x2 flops we're never getting another Danganronpa game ever again.
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>>569808352
Yeah that's why V3's ending isn't clear cut either way. It's literally the entire point of the game; it's perfectly possible for either they were faked or not.
>>569808521
There are plenty of inconsistencies in the prologue.
>if it was fake, they were given kidnapping memories for some reason, despite the fact that these memories never end up mattering
>none of these Danganronpa fans recognize Rantaro, despite recognizing the name Mono and who the Monokubs are probably related to
>no one's very excited about a Killing Game
>they question why they're in a school if they auditioned for a Danganronpa killing game
>the Monokubs say they should have had their memories changed BEFORE they woke up
>Monokubs also mention a FIRST memory, implying this memory ISN'T one they've been given
No reason for any of this to happen. The fans already know of a supposed audition if it really happened; why erase their memories of Danganronpa just for this?
>Explain why they couldn't do this without censoring the tapes?
Because the point is that THEY'LL NEVER KNOW who they really were. The tapes were faked, for specific purposes of fucking with them.
Danganronpa is not a very vague game series when they decide to do one further in the timeline. Hope wins. Makoto and co didn't die of toxins seconds into entering the outside world. The DR2 deaths weren't vegetables who will never wake up. It's very strongly implied Tsumugi was lying.
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>>569809321
I don't think you can really pull off V2 as a full standalone story unless you have really strong character writing. It would have to be a game where you know everything is fake but the characters fully go through the motions and never find out up until the end (maybe not even that) and the villain wins, the last scene being of our MC sacrificing himself to try to stop the cycle when the player already knows he'll just die immediately next time.
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>>569809321
V3 doesn't need any fucking spin-offs, it's cryptic on purpose.
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>>569784131
>googled Israel
>israel is actually being bombed by Iran
Wtf…
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>>569808521
>The wouldn't make Shuichi say his real name and then censor it to make it look like he said something else.
Also, implying *Shuichi* ever said his name. Even if you don't think it was Tsumugi (who it totally could be), they already proved that they can make accurate versions of the cast do what they want with the Motive Videos.
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>>569808957
Alot of people keep saying she would kill kazuichi, which i personally don't believe is true. If she would kill someone, my bets are on probably akane or gundham. I see her being a crazy bitch once she goes off the deep end and achieves her goal of being a "true crime queen". Which...would be a very fun turn of events to be honest.
>>569809321
I don't think V2 will ever happen since we know who survives in the end anyway. But if it were to, I won't complain. I like Rantaro so naturally more content of him is a massive win.
One idea in particular that ive liked is that since hes going to be the protagonist of this story, his secondary character (main support) should be the Ultimate Urban Explorer. Which would contrast well with his Ultimate Adventurer title. Its not a crazy idea, but a parallel character like that would be great too.
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>>569809774
It's almost like they didn't want peace to begin with and were just using the cease fire to gather resources so they can resume the war.
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>>569808965
I unironically like them, they're funny. Better than Monomi at least.
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>>569810075
now... the test...

ahem

how did you feel about danganronpa 3 aka teh anime that takes place between 2 and v3 ignoring the fact that 2 and v3 are different universes according to kodaka
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>>569808965
Based and monokuma pilled
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>>569809560
Rantaro alone actually knows that a Killing Game is going to happen, which is even weirder.
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>>569810005
Kodaka literally used the Israeli wars as inspiration for hundred line btw
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>>569810218
I never watched 3 and don't plan on it.
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>>569809939
>since we know who survives in the end anyway.
Rantaro is the only confirmed participant in V2 so Rantaro who is confirmed a survivor plus 15 new students that we don't the fates of. If Rantaro is the protagonist (even if he's not) knowing that he survives is not going to ruin the game.
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>>569810468
fugg :DD
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>my bets are on probably akane or gundham. I see her being a crazy bitch once she goes off the deep end and achieves her goal of being a "true crime queen". Which...would be a very fun turn of events to be honest.

I actually agree. And putting my opinions on the characters aside, Sonia killing Kazuichi and vice versa is too predictable and undermines what their characters are truly capable of.
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>>569809560
These aren't inconsistencies. These are just plot points that you don't like and characters behaving in ways that are different from how you want them to.

The kidnappings were real.
The students didn't know what was going on, so they didn't realize they were on Danganronpa.
The Monokubs didn't give them any memories yet.

Nothing about this contradicts what we learn in Chapter 6.

>Because the point is that THEY'LL NEVER KNOW who they really were.
This doesn't answer why they would make Shuichi say his name and then bleep it out, when, if you assume the tapes are fake, they could have literally made him say anything else, or just not included an introduction at all. There's just no correlation between the name being bleeped out and the authenticity of the tapes.

>Makoto and co didn't die of toxins seconds into entering the outside world. The DR2 deaths weren't vegetables who will never wake up.
This argument works against you since the twists in DR1 and DR2 were not lies. The outside world really was destroyed, the Ultimate Despair were real, Hajime really was Izuru, etc. DR1 even does the exact same thing V3 does where Makoto says "hey maybe Junko was lying" and she wasn't. DR2 ends with Makoto joking about how he's going to smooth things over with the Future Foundation HQ and the next time we see him they're ordering his execution and then the building gets taken over and nine people die. If you want to use the tone of past entries as a predecent then it's more likely that Tsumugi's description of the outside world and the pasts of the main cast was 100% true.
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>>569810707
Ibuki would protect that smile
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>>569810605
Yeah babies aren't supposed to be fuckable. But she grew up into a fine young woman!
>>569810707
I think you already posted this a while ago
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>>569809879
That's my point, if you assume the tapes are fake then they could have made the fake Shuichi say anything they wanted. There would be no need to censor something, so the presence of the censorship in the tape can only be explained by assuming that they simply wanted it to be there, which doesn't have anything to do with it being fake or not. They could have censores a real tape just as easily as a fake one.
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>>569810707
I think they're cute together
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>>569810874
>These are just plot points that you don't like and characters behaving in ways that are different from how you want them to.
Are you a moron?
>They were kidnapped.
Why? What's the point of kidnapping willing participants off the street instead of just flying them in? Almost like they weren't willing.
>The students didn't know what was going on, so they didn't realize they were on Danganronpa.
I already explained the inconsistencies with that. Rantaro for one DID notice, and he was not thrilled. All of them should have assumed what was going on... IF the tapes were real.
>The Monokubs didn't give them any memories yet.
If you accept this, then when did the motive videos happen? The V3 audience was shown the prologue, and then they waited a few days for motive videos to be made, before suddenly cutting back in? If you think the motive videos were fake, then why can't the audition tapes be fake? Rantaro can't both be a survivor of the previous game to explain why he knows its a killing game AND only now get his first memory.
>This doesn't answer why they would make Shuichi say his name and then bleep it out, when, if you assume the tapes are fake, they could have literally made him say anything else, or just not included an introduction at all. There's just no correlation between the name being bleeped out and the authenticity of the tapes.
I literally told you why. It's to pretend that Shuichi's name isn't Shuichi, and then to further taunt him by hiding his real name from him. The inconsistency comes from the fact that Shuichi's name really is Shuichi like the prologue implies.
>If you want to use the tone of past entries as a predecent then it's more likely that Tsumugi's description was 100% true.
If you want to continue with this, then what WAS lied about? Also, you have to remember that Shuichi doubting is literally the stinger. Same with the DR2 cast. Something the antagonist said ended up being true, but what ended up being false?
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>>569811258
>There would be no need to censor something
You're completely ignoring why the tapes exist in the first place if you actually think this, and even if it WAS correct it's merely a single drop in a bucket compared to the evidence of them being fake.
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>>569810874
>This doesn't answer why they would make Shuichi say his name and then bleep it out, when, if you assume the tapes are fake, they could have literally made him say anything else, or just not included an introduction at all. There's just no correlation between the name being bleeped out and the authenticity of the tapes.
The doylist answer is that Japanese chuuni media will always have the characters do what's flashier and more memorable on a surface level rather than what a real person would think is smarter to do.
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>>569812749
>Tsumugi wrote Kaede to praise her looks in the script because Tsumugi has low self-esteem
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>>569812749
Kaede would be such a good dom...
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>>569812417
>What's the point of kidnapping willing participants off the street instead of just flying them in
This is you disliking a plot point.
>All of them should have assumed what was going on..
This is the characters behaving differently from how you think they should.
You see what I mean? These aren't inconsistencies.

>If you think the motive videos were fake, then why can't the audition tapes be fake?
Because the motive videos being fake is a canon fact revealed to us in the game while the audition tapes being fake is a made-up fan theory. It's very simple.

>It's to pretend that Shuichi's name isn't Shuichi, and then to further taunt him by hiding his real name from him.
>The inconsistency comes from the fact that Shuichi's name really is Shuichi like the prologue implies.
The problem with this explanation for you is that nothing you just wrote requires the tapes to be fake. By your logic the tape could have been Shuichi's real audition, and they censored his name from the real footage to taunt him into thinking his name changed. Your argument has nothing to do with them being fake or not.

>If you want to continue with this, then what WAS lied about?
Everything that we're told that was lied about and exposed in the story.

>Also, you have to remember that Shuichi doubting is literally the stinger.
Not really. The epilogue ends with the characters wondering about whether or not they were able to make a difference in the outside world. It's only meaningful if Tsumugi was telling the truth about the world, since that's what Shuichi was fighting against.
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>>569813056
Probably. Tsumugi's dialogue actually sets up her shallow vapid bitchiness really well. Half of her dialogue, especially in trials, is pointing out stuff she wrote to the audience. She just quips on that and that's it.
>Gonta, you're TOO honest!
It's the writing equivalent of sucking herself off, it's effectively a laugh track that's played by her.
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>>569808965
monosuke was great tho ngl
>>569807838
oh shes not badly written at all, shes always just seemed really boring? Like you said, shes more normal and reserved, but for me, it was to a detriment. I personally never found anything to really cling to when it came to her character, even though the more i think about it, the more she actually has going on
>is clearly into gundham
>is interested in true crime (which might lead to further development in 2x2)
>has a military history when it comes to her country (again, might help with the previous point)
but i still just dont fw her, doesnt help that her designs also kinda boring :/
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>>569813504
>This is you disliking a plot point.
>This is the characters behaving differently from how you think they should.
>You see what I mean? These aren't inconsistencies.
Those are quite fucking literally and objectively inconsistencies. Explain how they make sense if they aren't. You're genuinely a retard. It's not even "bad writing", Tsumugi's claims being dubious is part of the fucking story.
>Because the motive videos being fake is a canon fact revealed to us in the game while the audition tapes being fake is a made-up fan theory.
So when were the motive videos faked?
>The problem with this explanation for you is that nothing you just wrote requires the tapes to be fake.
...And yet nothing requires them to be real either. In fact, the prologue requires them to be fake. The point is that you can't use the tapes and Shuichi's censored name to prove it's real, and it leans closer to being fake.
>Everything that we're told that was lied about and exposed in the story.
Man I love when Junko's toxic air story was proven fake in-story!
>The epilogue ends with the characters wondering about whether or not they were able to make a difference in the outside world. It's only meaningful if Tsumugi was telling the truth about the world, since that's what Shuichi was fighting against.
That's not even true.
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Aaaand the ugliest Danganronpa sprite award goes to him.
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>>569814451
Yeah, Rantaro's got some weird, kinda off model sprites
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>>569814451
he has SEVERAL of those. Is he the only dangan character with this many side profile sprites of him? cuz my god is his side profile ass
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>>569814451
>Aaaand the ugliest Danganronpa sprite award goes to
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>>569815884
That one's fine. Tenko with her teeth defined is worse.
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>>569815884
Pissed off Tenko is funny
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>>569814334
An inconsistency is when two things can't be true at the same time. If Tsumugi said to the students "You came here on your own" and then we saw them being kidnapped, that would be an inconsistency that proves she's lying about how they got there. But if you just see them being kidnapped and say "Hey man I don't think this is how things should have happened" that's you not liking how the story was written.

>So when were the motive videos faked?
Whenever. We aren't told specifically and I don't see how it helps your point to guess.

>And yet nothing requires them to be real either.
But you're the one who is defending the argument that Shuichi's name being censored in his tape implies that the tape is fake, even though so far nobody has been able to explain why that would be the case.
>In fact, the prologue requires them to be fake.
Not at all. There is not one single frame of the prologue that contradicts those tapes.

>Man I love when Junko's toxic air story was proven fake in-story!
It was proven to be real in-story. After Junko executes herself, Makoto states that the air purifiers in the school shut off. The air outside really was polluted. Ultra Despair Girls double-confirms this and talks about how the Towa group had to make their own air purifiers which is why people can still live in Towa City.

Sorry if a huge part of your argument was based on misremembering this and thinking that Junko lied about the air pollution, but she didn't. Maybe you thought that Junko meant that breathing the pollution would instantly kill you after one second, but she never said that either.

>That's not even true.
I had the epilogue open while I wrote that. It always helps to verify what you're saying before you say it. You should try it out yourself.
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>>569816127
Air pollution machine is assumed to be Souda's work, yes? Is he the most harmful Despair after Junko?
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>>569816358
Kazuichi did a lot of the heavy work for the Ultimate Despairs and even the Warriors of Hope since he built the kid's robots and Big Bang Monokuma.
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>>569816358
DR3 had a line that implied he was a significant contributor.
>>569816609
I like to think he built the executions for DR1 too.
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>>569816609
wasnt it the Towa group who built the big bang monokuma? i might be misremembering, but where was it stated that it was kazuichi who built it?
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>>569816921
I thought Kazuichi built Monokuma for Junko and that trickled down to the other Monokuma variants?
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>>569816127
You know what else is an inconsistency? Kidnapping people who want to be in a Killing Game in broad daylight for no reason when you're gonna memory wipe them anyway.
You don't know what a consistency is.
>Whenever. We aren't told specifically and I don't see how it helps your point to guess.
Moron. How fucking stupid are you that you can't follow such a simple train of thought?
>even though so far nobody has been able to explain why that would be the case.
Actually, it could relate to the idea that Tsumugi's cospox is real and she can't cosplay as real people; if she doesn't say Shuichi's real name, she could pretend she isn't cosplaying as Shuichi.
>Not at all. There is not one single frame of the prologue that contradicts those tapes.
Fun fact; there actually is. Completely divorced from the context and implications being wildly different to what we see in the prologue, EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the tapes is wearing different clothes. Since you're a mindless moron, there's your evidence. The tapes were faked because the characters aren't wearing clothes they were wearing in the prologue, and we can't prove they own any different clothes, so the tapes were fake.
>It was proven to be real in-story. After Junko executes herself, Makoto states that the air purifiers in the school shut off.
That doesn't actually prove that the air wasn't toxic. They simply could have shut off. Pretty funny how you can use leaps of logic and implications when they suit you.
>Ultra Despair Girls
Not DR1.
>Sorry if a huge part of your argument was based on misremembering this and thinking that Junko lied about the air pollution
I'm sorry if you're stupid enough that you think an air filter switching off proves it exists, and that you think this is even a "gotcha" in the first place.
>I had the epilogue open while I wrote that.
I didn't say the epilogue was wrong. I said that "it going against the story" was plain wrong.
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>>569816921
The anime showed him working on a giant Monokuma but it could have been unrelated to Towa's ones.
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Why did Junko hold a killing game instead of buying McDonald's, making Monokuma the new mascot, and forcing all those talented teenagers with bright futures to work at the last McDonald's on earth for the rest of their natural lives? I thought she wanted true despair?
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>>569817575
Im pretty sure UDG this disproves this as monokuma WAS designed by Junko herself, and were made with the help of Monaca and the Towa Groups robotics division.
>>569817614
Oh shit youre right, it DOES show him doin that, but thing is theres no crown or nothin to distinguish it from just being a big monokuma. it also wasnt elaborated on at all after it was shown iirc. I doubt it was Kazuichi who helped create the big bang monokuma, as it would of atleast been mentioned in UDG in some way.
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>>569818530
She's a fakecel
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>>569810974
Yeah but babies are supposed to look cute. She looks like a SCP.
>>569813056
Canon BTW
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>>569818530
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Sorry comedian boy, her holes are exclusively for big black cocks!
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>>569817590
>Kidnapping people
This isn't an inconsistency. You just don't like it. Team Danganronpa surprises their participants by whisking them away to the killing game before telling them that their auditions were accepted - this is the canon series of events that Kodaka presented to us in his game. You might not like what he wrote, but it's not like I made it up. There's nothing in the rest of the game that states or implies that TDR wouldn't do this. Tsumugi never says "we would never kidnap anybody" so there is nothing that it could be inconsistent with.

>you can't follow such a simple train of thought?
I can't guess what your headcanon regarding the motive videos is.

>Actually, it could relate to the idea that Tsumugi's cospox is real
That doesn't explain why it would need to be censored. Your argument was that Tsumugi is trying to convince Shuichi that he used to have a different name in the first place, so under your interpretation of this scene she wouldn't be saying Shuichi's real name whether she could or not.

>EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the tapes is wearing different clothes.
It looks like the same clothes to me.

>That doesn't actually prove that the air wasn't toxic.
I agree.

>and that you think this is even a "gotcha" in the first place.
It is a gotcha because you tried to use Junko lying about air pollution as a precedent to justify thinking that Tsumugi lied about the audition tapes, but Junko never lied about the audition tapes.

The only argument that you have halfway going for you is Makoto saying that the Remnants will wake up from their comas, but if you actually think about it, that doesn't check out either. When Junko said that the dead students wouldn't wake up, she wasn't being deceptive. That was the truth that she genuinely believed. The ending of DR2 was a "miracle" that she was incapable of anticipating, arguably implied to have been brought about as a result of Izuru's god hax. So it's not like she was tricking anyone.
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>>569819290
do everyone a favor and circumcise yourself with a rusty spoon you nigger
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>>569819290
There are no black people in that game's world
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What if the reason they used the flashback lights twice instead of once is because you need a certain amount of brain damage to be a true dangan?
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>>569819290
Why does she look like a Pokemon gym leader
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I think they dont elaborate and who built what because Kodaka hates world building and doesn't think his plot points through.

Yeah, this thing exists but I wont explain further and not give any character more depth by tying it to them.
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>>569819290
Everybody's rallying to get the game cancelled now so don't expect chapter 2
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Also anyone noticed that big franchise endings have been absolte shit lately for some reason?
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>>569820649
I think it's a case of the suits in charge missing the point about frontloading content.
Sure, a good chunk of players don't finish the game. But if the ending is a bad plenty of players won't buy the next one. The cycle starts and that amount of players that only play a little bit of the game stays the same in total, but becomes a bigger portion. Feedback loop yada yada.
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>>569820649
only ones that come to mind for me rn are JJK (not that bad imo), The Boys and Chainsaw man especially
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>>569819752
You don't know what an inconsistency is, which makes sense since you're a buttfucking retard. It's not a contradiction; it's an inconsistency. It is inconsistent for Team Danganronpa to kidnap willing participants. It is inconsistent for them to be familiar with Monokuma but not Rantaro. It is inconsistent for then to believe more people would be coming when they should know they've been grabbed for a killing game. It is inconsistent for Rantaro to notice its a killing game but for no one else to notice.
>Team Danganronpa surprises their participants by whisking them away to the killing game before telling them that their auditions were accepted - this is the canon series of events that Kodaka presented to us in his game.
Wrong, didn't happen. Like actually, that straight up didn't happen.
>I can't guess what your headcanon regarding the motive videos is.
I asked you a simple question; if their first memory was given to them *after* the motive videos were made, what does that mean about the motive videos?
>That doesn't explain why it would need to be censored
It literally does. You're stupid, but bear with me. Tsumugi can't say she's Shuichi, or else she'll break into cospox. She can say a name, blur it out in post, and that works for misleading Shuichi.
>It looks like the same clothes to me.
Blind and retarded, then?
>Shuichi's buttons are a different size, color, and he's missing one
>Kaede's clothes are different; her lines are doubled
>Kaito's buttons are a completely different color
>Kaito and Kaede's clothes are the same color in the prologue but quite different in the tapes; lighting's not an excuse for that
You're literally just stupid.
>It is a gotcha because you tried to use Junko lying about air pollution
No, that's not the point. The point is that all three Masterminds lied that the students were fucked. They weren't.
>That was the truth that she genuinely believed.
Have you even played V3?
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>>569804525
making the mormon a guy is dumb, other than that the current is an improvement
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>>569789841
It's funny that the guy who made this went off on a whole big rant over PEG's writing decisions when it got leaked and then his chapter 1 killer is literally just Diet Eva down to being an Ultimate Mathematician who kills somebody in Chapter 1 because she was mad everyone made fun of her
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>>569822156
He was still a guy even then, he just looked even more like a girl.
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>>569821638
Rantaro's actually different too
His necklace is way longer and his shirt doesn't have his insignia in that one video that plays about him
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>>569822529
Skirt doko
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>>569820586
that's not how real video games work, the team is contracted to finish the full game, a bunch of 15 year olds on twitter aren't going to change anything.
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>>569822529
>>569822156
Just wait until the next chapter when he's the victim and they check his body only to find out he has a vagina
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>>569822760
Last I saw they're trying to notify Spike Chunsoft in hopes they'll sure them but if that was actually going to happen I don't think the game would've gotten this far.
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Gonta Gokuhara
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>>569823567
he's definitely dumb but he doesn't do dumb things because they're funny, he does them because he's trying his best
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>>569823494
Are they retarded? Why would Spikesoft let them do a Kickstarter and then release the game 2 years later before suing them?
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>>569823567
People only think Gonta's dumb because the """"translators"""" made him into Tarzan for some fucking reason
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>>569824230
Yeah, a character who can't tell left from right is totally a genius but those woke trannylators at NISA made him a retard. Uh huh, makes sense.
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>>569821638
>It is inconsistent for Team Danganronpa to kidnap willing participants. It is inconsistent for them to be familiar with Monokuma but not Rantaro. It is inconsistent for then to believe more people would be coming when they should know they've been grabbed for a killing game. It is inconsistent for Rantaro to notice its a killing game but for no one else to notice.
Inconsistent with what? Your headcanons for what you think should have happened instead? It's not your story.

>Like actually, that straight up didn't happen.
It's in the game whether you like it or not.

>I asked you a simple question; if their first memory was given to them *after* the motive videos were made, what does that mean about the motive videos?
I don't know what you think it means. Please contribute to the conversation.

>Tsumugi can't say she's Shuichi, or else she'll break into cospox. She can say a name, blur it out in post, and that works for misleading Shuichi.
Why does it need to be blurred out in this scenario? She could say a name, NOT blur it out in post, and it would still work for misleading Shuichi. The name being blurred out doesn't add anything to this theory.

>Shuichi's buttons are a different size
There's no way this is your real argument, right? You're trolling out of frustration.

>The point is that all three Masterminds lied that the students were fucked. They weren't.
But Junko wasn't lying. She said that if she died, the air purifiers would turn off and the students wouldn't be able to safely stay in the school anymore. She said they would have to leave their shelter and go outside and face the dangers of The Tragedy. None of that was a lie.

>Have you even played V3?
Okay, please tell me which part of V3 you think I missed that would give me some additional insight into how AI Junko from DR2 felt about whether or not the people who died in the simulation would regain their consciousness.
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>>569824456
troonslators was right there anon
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>>569824230
>>569824456
It's crazy how their localization was so powerful that it even made Japanese fans think that Gonta was stupid months before the game released in English.
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Check it out
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Canonically, are the monokubs a new addition to the 53rd season or were they added before?
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Most King~
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>>569824920
Expect this to be the last response. You're simply too stupid for this conversation.
>Inconsistent with what?
Inconsistent with how the characters act in the prologue and in the tapes and what Tsumugi claims to be true.
>It's in the game whether you like it or not.
Again, it literally did not happen. They were never told they were accepted like you claim. The prologue wasn't even supposed to happen according to the Monokubs. It's exhausting dealing with a retarded secondary.
>I don't know what you think it means. Please contribute to the conversation.
See, here's this funny thing about implications; you SHOULD, in fact, know what I think it means, and I was asking what you think it means anyway. Funny how that works.
>Why does it need to be blurred out in this scenario? She could say a name, NOT blur it out in post, and it would still work for misleading Shuichi. The name being blurred out doesn't add anything to this theory.
She needs to blur out the name to taunt Shuichi, as stated again and again.
>There's no way this is your real argument, right? You're trolling out of frustration.
Don't you play the games? Weren't you going on about how you were playing the epilogue right now? Why don't you take a look at Shuichi's buttons and tell me if that was a continuity error or not? Actually I don't care because you've already proven yourself to be a moron lmao.
>But Junko wasn't lying. She said that if she died, the air purifiers would turn off and the students wouldn't be able to safely stay in the school anymore.
The lie's here by the way.
>Okay, please tell me which part of V3 you think I missed that would give me some additional insight into how AI Junko from DR2
Another masterclass in being a midwit if THAT'S what you think I meant. Go kill yourself.
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>>569825545
Monokubs mention being there for other trials in 3-1 but they could be lying. The prologue characters didn't know who they were, and that's already its own debacle. No way to know for sure. I assume they existed previously as a gimmick to get people interested and get blown up comedically at the end of every execution like in V3.
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>>569826440
>Inconsistent with how the characters act in the prologue and in the tapes and what Tsumugi claims to be true.
This doesn't apply to any of the things you mentioned.

"It is inconsistent for them to be familiar with Monokuma but not Rantaro" - did they ever say in the audition tapes that they'd instantly recognize Rantaro? Did Tsumugi ever claim that they'd instantly recognize Rantaro? No, that's just your headcanon. It's not an inconsistency for the game to contradict your headcanon.

>They were never told they were accepted like you claim
The Monokubs literally tells them that there's gonna be a killing game in the prologue.

>See, here's this funny thing about implications; you SHOULD, in fact, know what I think it means, and I was asking what you think it means anyway. Funny how that works.
I told you I don't know. I'm asking you to explain.

>She needs to blur out the name to taunt Shuichi, as stated again and again.
Why does she need to blur it out to taunt him? I think he'd be taunted just as much by a not-blurred out name. Or no name at all.

>Why don't you take a look at Shuichi's buttons and tell me if that was a continuity error or not?
See, even you think they were continuity errors. The CG artists aren't going to subtly draw their outfits wrong on purpose to hint that the tapes are fake.

>The lie's here by the way.
But it was true. They couldn't stay in the school because the air purifiers turned off.

>Another masterclass in being a midwit if THAT'S what you think I meant.
Maybe you're just actually a retard who doesn't know how to communicate? Half of this conversation is you just saying incorrect things, and going "no that's not what I meant" after being corrected with zero elaboration.
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Black men are so sexy
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>>569828025
They are naturally feminine.
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>>569825216
Is that Toko getting blown the fuck up? honestly we would not lose anything if she were to die.
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>>569828738
would rape
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>>569828738
How can she contain her big breasts?
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>>569828339
Kyoko's there so seems unlikely
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>>569828795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra
thank me later
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>>569829325
holy hell
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>>569829325
I just got a boner.
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>>569828795
She needs the bull's help for that
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If there were another game or anime in the v3 timeline what would you want it to be about?
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brafag has been going crazy with the slop lately.
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>>569830003
What manga are you using? It seems familiar but I can't put my finger on it
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>>569830003
Shuichi needs all the help he can get if he wants to satisfy Kaede
At least 3 other guys minimum
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The fact that Shuichi fucked every girl there EXCEPT Kaede is still crazy to me.
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>>569830215
Technically he only actually has sex with like 4 of them. Kirumi, Tenko, and Maki contain themselves.
And Korekiyo did things to him.
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>>569830071
game opens with Shuichi and Maki bombing the World Trade Center
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>>569826440
>>569827243
these niggas finish arguing with each other and then start gooning to kaede together
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>>569830132
Noa-senpai wa Tomodachi
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>>569830839
Together apes strong
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>>569830872
Noa's pretty good unironically
It's cute
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>>569828339
It is Toko getting blown the fuck up
>>569829286
You're right, the artist must have forgotten Kyoko wasn't there for that (I forgot too)
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What mean mode did more than making the game harder and made all the characters mean to the player character as well?
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>>569832509
That would be kino.
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if
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>>569832653
was alright
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>>569832653
i could wish for anything then i would wish for HELLA DRUGS!
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>>569832509
This but just the girls.
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Rich incel vs poor femcel, which one would you pick?
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Chop Shuey
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>>569835890
they would both suck to be around
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>>569835890
Femcels don't exist.
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>>569835890
Byakuya isn't an incel, he hasn't even tried to get coochie yet and that makes him a volcel.
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>>569835890
If I had to pick, I'd say bakugan- I mean byakuya.
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>>569835890
il take the foid
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Can someone explain to me why women say I want a guy who is tall, smart, and handsome end up marrying short, low iq, ugly men
Danganronpa ships for this feel?
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>>569838347
Start a ritual to get spike chunsoft to awnser my calls and cries for the release date of 2x2.
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>>569838596
trust that the nintendo direct on tuesday will finally give us a release date.
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If there is going to be a V3 redo, Kirumi definitely survives
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>>569838893
and himiko should die
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>>569839009
Naturally
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>>569838893
HAAAAANK! YOU CANT JUST DROP THAT IMAGE HERE.
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>>569839009
by accident, during an overly ambitious magic trick
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>>569839009
>ends up surviving again
KINO
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I hope himiko dies or gets executed in 3x3 desu
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>>569839429
Too stupid to commit a murder
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>>569839429
>I hope himiko dies or dies
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I hope Himiko never dies in any danganronpa media kinda like Aoi
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>>569840301
>kinda like Aoi
Oof...
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>>569840301
She gets the Touko treatment but in the canon route
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What if the deicing factor for who got kidnapped for danganronpa v3 was how bad their post on the danganronpa forums were and the worst they were the more likely there were to get kidnapped?
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>>569842095
what if Tsumugi targetted people who annoyed her and had different opinions than her
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>>569838347
Violently jerk off to Nagito all day
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>>569842095
Danganronpa killing game comprised of people from /drg/, whos surviving and whis dying first
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good morning everyone !
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>>569843518
Survivors: oldcore
Dying first: newpups
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>>569843589
Holding down the fort in the promised land? Hope you aren't in danger.
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>>569843625
OldtranserPanzer...
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>hey sir, my boyfriend and I ran from home. Could you let us crash at your place? It's okay, my bf likes to watch~
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>>569843518
Adam kills Nagitofag
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>>569843518
YOU. you're dying first.
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>>569844164
>>569844291
Elite level Samegodhood
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>>569844291
>You share a home!? You're brother and sister!?
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Tf did he mean by this?
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>>569844164
thank you ! <3
i'm good .. trying to focus on work ..
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>>569844384
I'm not into Shuichi getting cucked unfortunately, that was mere coincidence.
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>>569844587
Kaede ran from her dysfunctional home and dragged her Shuichi bf with her despite him having a rather comfy family situation
Now they couch surf on random strangers houses in exchange from sexual favor from Kaede (and sometimes Shuichi as well)
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The fact that Shuichi got fucked by EVERY dude with ZERO exception is still crazy to me.
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>>569822760
The devs don't seem to worry about it either.
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Saimatsucore gemmy
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>>569845621
Newchad here. Was there a Shuichi avatarfag at one point that made this meme begin?
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What if Rantaro didn't lie on his resume and just tanked that shot put ball like any good ultimate survivor should do?
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>>569845925
>Tsumugi what the fuck is your problem?
>Eto... bleh.
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>>569845621
Based
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>>569843518
First death: Rapefag
Survivors: Kamukun, Himikofag, Nidaifag, Oumenofag, Imposterfag
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>>569846898
looks like ai slop to me. The hair pins are totally fucked!
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>>569846898
>>569845621
>>569844812
>>569844291
Good morning Saar (Adam)
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>>569846898
I fucking love NTR I wish i wasn't a gay incel so that i could get a gf willing to cuck me like this
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>>569847237
>gay
>I wish I had a gf
you might not be gay then
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>>569846932
Correct
>>569847237
You're ruining our image



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