>Combat Tuning Previewhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/season_2_combat_tuning_preview>Welcome to Season 2https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>Season 2 Cinematic Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1i801SDrJA>Youtube and Twitter:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGamehttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/Previous run: >>569663953
dead game lolol
>>569872718NOOOOOO
sex with blackbird.
If you could transfer your mind into any body, why not make it a sexy body?
unless they do a FF14-style emergency overhaul of gameplay and PvE systems and introduce some kind of narrative, i'm not sure how this will survive year 1
>>569872718FIPPY BIPPY
>>569870510>PicNeat ideas. This isn't official, right?>Go to Reward Pass and then press down; there's imprints of how many seasons are planned already, it's six - every three months is a new seasonDo you have any idea how easy it would be to add page scrolling there?
>>569872820>If you could transfer your mind into any body, why not make it a sexy body?I wonder what it would feel like to put your consciousness into a female shell. I don't even mean it from a tranny perspective, I mean like, imagine going your whole life as a dude and then suddenly you're in a female body with female anatomy, female lack of strength, female social expectations, etc. It would be very weird and take a lot of getting used to.
>>569872970>All accountability suddenly removedMust feel great
>>569872851But then you just have a boring game like destiny
>>569873084i genuinely wish that this game was just destiny, but like, better lol
>>569873084current game ain't attracting new players lil pup, and destiny is dead
>>569872970>find attractive clothing and makeup>marry simp and extract wealthEzmode
>>569872970theres two pieces of lore in the new season that has some guatemalan dictator? escape persecution due to an offer by traxus, a note with his name is found on a dead recon shell
>Bungie doesn't even have a plan anymore for Marathon>You can even see when Bungie shuts down through their Reward Pass. >There's only six reward passes, each reward pass is a season and each season is three months>Season 2 barely has any content
>>569873334I mean... I could see them adding a scroll bar to that page. lol
>>569873334Do you not remember how often they switched the entire menu/hud around during Destiny's life? Especially during D1?
>>569873138>>569873139I never got anything out of D2, shooting health bars got old quickly and I had no idea what was meant to be happening with the story. People are just hooked on seeing loot with higher numbers next to it.
>>569873084>Boring game like Destiny>400+ petition for Destiny 3>Game lasted a decade and a few change>BoringI mean, it looks like someone liked it Anon. Compared D2's lowest lows with Marathon; hell Marathon has an extended free weekend by a few days and it still couldn't get a jump in numbers.It's bleeding players daily.
>>569873447>People are just hooked on seeing loot with higher numbers next to itexactly lol. i want that, but without the cringe sweaty pvp shit in this game
>>569873517Well tough luck.
>>569873451It's still boring like what actually engages you to keep playing other than the refined addiction formula.
>>569873581you can say that to anyone hoping that marathon makes it past 1 year LOL
>>569873447i don't want this to be like destiny, i want this game to be a slow-paced survival horror PvE game where me and the boys get raped by aliens and robots in pitch black darknessbut right now it's just apex legends but more lame, same gayness
I miss when we used to trannypost here.
>>569873632It won't.But by that point bungie will be gone also. So no more Destiny either.
guys we need a new game to play after bungie gets axed!i propose fortnite!
>>569873640That's what my dream is too. Survival Horror set on a planet far from home Marathon has so much to give and this is all we
>>569873640well at one point in development the game was like destiny, until they pivoted to an extraction shooter. at no point in development was it a survival horror game. so i think the problem here is that you're looking for a different game.
>>569873451even destiny defenders can't muster up the willpower to call the game good and default to talking about numbers lmao
marathon is better than destiny 1 and 2marathon is bungies best game since halo 2marathon proves that bungie still has soul and can make good games, after 1w years of doubt via destiny
>>569873787I already flip-flop between marathon and fortnite depending in my mood
>>569873882>at no point in development was it a survival horror gamesponsored survival night marsh is right there brojust take that and improve upon it. give it objectives, shit to do, more enemies that want to jumpscare and buttfuck you. it's that simple.
>>569874072based. i havent been playing marathon much because of the new fortnite season.
>>569874018true (halo 3 was good tho
>>569874332I'm the opposite, I haven't been playing much fortnite recently because the exploder rifle sucks balls
>>569874018>marathon is better than destiny 1 and 2Played Destiny for 11 years and I genuinely agree with you.
>>569873709I summon the gay arm poster
I just bought the game after 10hours, and i then understood i dont like the combat. It has the same problems as ArcRaiders. The game punishes you twice for getting ambushed, and its impossible to bounce back from one.Hunt Showdown is still the king, and handles the damage and healing so much better.Now i just have to hope i get my money back.
>take a couple Ls>load into perimeter free kit with crew for a chill run to end the night >gank a green/gray duo that played super passively and hid in corners from us. I feel kind bad about this, anons.
>>569874964Timid people are just free2players, fuck em they ain't coming back
>>569874874People will complain about how punishing "getting ambushed" is but wont actively try to prevent being ambushed.Its like walking down a dark alley at night in a dangerous city and saying>"WOOOWWW, IM GETTING FUCKING MUGGED THIS SUCKS"Rather than just being safer.
>>569875127The problem is the same as in Arc, there are not enough tells if someone is moving in what part of the map. The guns don't make so much sound either. Hunt Showdown does this perfectly, as there's more depth in gun sounds, numerous 'sound traps,' and overall better cues of things, map reading is a skill in that game you cannot find here.
Aside from the whole "anomaly is devouring the souls of colonists" thing and the wild life being literal antibodies against humans, Tau Ceti IV is a pretty comfy place.
I've seen game footage from early development, there perimeter had actual trees, not just dead stumps. It looked pretty nice.
>>569874510i've played since D1 launch to TFS and it's true
>>569875340All the little buildings on the edges of Perimeter are cozy when it's raining.
>>569875584I always like to imagine when I'm camping in one of the outskirt buildings on Outpost or Perimeter that my runner is just kicking his feet back and resting against his gun idly. Makes me tempted to try and get the 3d models of the map and shells so I can make something in Blender or something, but I don't really know how to do that
>>569872820what defines a sexy body in the far future when lots of people are digitized or cyber-enhanced? it cant be almond-faced, anime eyed girls in plug suits for all eternity.
>>569875272>there are not enough tells if someone is moving in what part of the map. The guns don't make so much sound either.Lmao lrn2play man holy fuck
>>569875831Why are we all still humanoids, why can't destroyer go in with tank treads?
>>569875871Please elaborate, what tells there are that a team is a compound over 200m away if they are not shooting? I really want to 'get' this game.
>>569875272>birds>turret aggro>tick aggro>events triggering>rocket drone aggro>exfil triggering>any of the recon or early warning tools you choosd to use
>>569875758https://x.com/cinemamotionss/status/2029610384215220479?s=20there's a download for a full rip of perimeter and outpost in this server, plus ripped models of the shells and guns and stuff
>>569876010So nothing. The birds are kinda there, but they don't actually pinpoint or reveal where they are.Recon's scan does not reach that far, I think it's like 30m
>>569875272You need to work on your listening and deductive skills broThere's lots of contextual environmental clues
>>569876304Then accept that your failure comes from a chosen inability to learn.
>>569875982They tried that. The runners uploaded had several psychological degradation. Like that scene in the Robocop remake where he freaks out and wants to die when he realises how little of his body is left.The Shells need to resemble human shapes to help the merging of consciousness to body without suicidal insanity setting in
>>569876304>So nothingYou're just bad at the game. Marathon is by no means flawless but "I couldn't tell there were enemies in this area!" is just a skill issue
>>569876304claymores are recon tools. set them in bushes along known rotation routes.
Her shell is so slutty
>>569875986If they trigger alarms, exfils, supply drops, or enemy spawns then it's quite loud. Door opening sounds can travel pretty far too. What other games let you know someone is 200m away if you can't see them?
>>569876496>>569876620You don't understand, no one is getting ambushed by turret aggroing, event triggering drone killing gung-ho group.What are the ACTUAL sound cues in this game?>>569876365Like what?
>>569876173Does this have textures? I just want hi-res corp logos and stuff
>>569876512Bungie chose to make up that reason.Why did they choose to invent a reason to be boring?
>>569875982>>569876892Because they didn't want to make new animations.
>>569876803the khblrm noise when you get downed.
>>569877013Oh, right, yeah. Small indie studio
>>569872970Easy money, pretty privilege and no accountability. If the body is customizable as an android, I could still have my dick. I don't see the downsides
>>569877145name one studio whos added a non-bipedal character to their shooter. one that has a totally new set of animations from the rest of the cast.
>>569875986>>569876304If players aren’t shooting or making any other noise why you would expect to hear them lmao
>>569877261Hamtaro from Overguard
>>569877320Because this is why games like these have 'soundtraps' like in Hunt. People have to actively make decisions do they want to make noise or do a detour/spend resources/move more slowly around them. Its so fucking great system in Hunt, and i was hoping to see it here, especially with such low TTK.
>>569876803>What are the ACTUAL sound cues in this game?I haven’t played hunt so I will give you a chance to explain yourself if you think it does something better. What sound cues exist in that game that tell you where quiet, sneaky players are?
>>569877482kek you got him there
>>569877373Hamster is still bipedal, just with extra legs and a sprint animation where he rolls
>VIP reward from NuCal>one biostrip>one dermachem pack>2k creditsWhat the fuck is this piece of shit.webmThey really fucked up progression.
>>569877373every character in overwatch has different animations because they dont interact with the environment (except like genji). theres no animation of orisa or hamster interacting with a terminal, reloading a rifle or performing a takedown. EVERY shell in marathon shares those animations just like in every other shooter of that type. its why all warframes in warframe are humanoid.
>>569877261Marathons animations are also all from D2 lmao
>>569877760ya and thats probly part of the reason why the game wasnt 70 bucks.
>>569876173Invite is unfortunately expired :c
>>569878147found an active link; https://discord dot gg/Yt5QWHzMSt
>>569877482>They step on a branch>They startle ravens/ducks/chickens>They step into water with leeches in>They delve too close to the bounty/clue that triggers the red>They startle the dead horse>The leeches outright prevent this on the ground and force you to run or die>The player with the bounty sees you in DarksightAnd something more active where you HAVE TO fight:>Zombie has gun in his hand that goes off because you were too slow>Zombie drops a lantern that cascades into a explosive barrel>Someone uses piercing weapon to Immolator>You aggro a Wasp ladyJust some on top of my head, surely i forgot something. Of course, you can just sit in the far corner of the map and never engage with anyone, but the point of these systems is to give 'tells' where people are making ambushing not so easy.>>569877515Its just a conversation, not some chest-pounding argument. Im honestly curious how to 'read' into this game and understand it better since i love the aesthetics and the gunplay.
>>569878469Thanks. Turns out that Assassin is not bald.
>>569878682VS Marathon:>The ayyy lmao birds>UESC fighting>Those poison mushroom fucks exploding>Doors opening and closing>Loud jingle jangle when key rooms open>Various map specific sirens (Such as activating the Elevator hallway in Outpost)
How come so many people are able to locate hotspots or enemies through environmental clues but this one guy can't?
>>569880103Might be a fucking retard or just very bored and trolling
Do we have any hints on what the next runner shell might be after Sentinel? We got a male shell so I assume another female shell after this one?
>>569879271>Assassin is a fucking chinkGreat, so Triage is a nigger and Assassin is a chink. This keeps getting worse and worse.
>>569880234next will probly be enby. not sure what role needs filled tho. would be funny if they made a friendship comms expert shell that has sole access to map-wide all chat
>>569878682Most of those are covered by just the step sounds.
>>569880234>>569880601I do wonder if any of the codexs have any hints, now that we know Recon and Sentinel are either modified or made for UESC use first before runners got their hands on them we could very well see another shell based off of UESCWe also know NOONA is creating new shells with that symbiote too.Anyone know who that voice we hear is when we use the radars on Night Marsh? They talk directly to us when we either turn on the radar or we go to the loot cache.
>>569875272I disagree. The following happened to me just a few days ago.>Perimeter, solo, like 5 minutes left>Moving along the data wall towards an exfil beacon just south of the Hauler>While near that little building, hear birds get scared off somewhere south, towards Overflow>Do a 180 and head towards the North Relay exfil>On my way there, hear the exfil near the Hauler get activated
>>569878469>To load the Dire Marsh map in material preview>Mfw
I dont have to actually play some shitty doom clone to understand marathon, do i?
>>569882234No.https://youtu.be/Xf7UKPvCgSwJust watch this.
>>569882234>doom clonelol. You can read the terminals but you may miss a little context.
>>569881987What in gods nameDid Bungie take lessons from the creator of Yandere Simulator?
>>569881987Man, this rendering thing takes a long time.
>best Rook run i've had on Narsh yet>never had a single firefight with runners yet>Get to exfil>3 seconds do go>thief downs me and kills me and starts cackling in some indian gutterspeakI'm not mad, i'm disappointed.
>>569882923shit's gonna get borked when you use a 3d modeling software for tasks suited to a game engine
>>569882923It's the entire map at once without any culling you can't blame the devs too much
>>569884029Shame you have not met me, we would've exfiltrated together, like frens do.Solo queue sponsored NMarsh is great. Slow, but great.
>>569885212It wasn't that he downed me like a dick, if its an indian thats expected. Its that he did it when there wasn't even time to loot my bag. So 15 minutes wasted and it doesnt even end up effecting the player economy or whatever.
>>569885303Happened to me too, anon. It's ridiculous.
>>569885303True.Is arachne even worth leveling this season?
>>569885303maybe he had a mission to get finishers. theres also a cheevo to finish someone in exfil
what the fuck can you do to the flying coffin? kills runs
>>569887020Railgun the jet engines.
>>569887020Usually you should avoid it.If you are geared up enough you can destroy it. It drops good loot.
>>569887020you can look for it in the sky and not go that direction.
>>569872902>there will only be 6 seasons since there are 6 slots during the 2nd seasonAre chuddies actually retarded?
i dont think i like the skilltree. theres basically no reason not to max out agi, end and str, the support tree is kinda lame and the resistance tree is just not worth it unless you have the first three maxxed out. your stats should be completely tied to your implants.
>>569888603It seems like just not putting anything in support and picking if you like strength or recharge more is the only real element of choice here. Next season they should increase the stat increase the further you get in but reduce it from 50 levels to like 35.
>Decide fuck it and dust my whole vault to see what its worth>9 levels in the cradleChrist how bad did they nerf it?
>>569890464Bad enough. I have to feed like 400 greens now to get a level. Granted, im lvl 66 in Cradle.
>>569890464>nerf it to fuck because a few people were spending all day and night grindingThanks Bung
>>569890464I'd bet my life on them walking it back
>>569888603>>569889207I'm mixed with it.I'm in the miniority with this opinion but a lot of the things that *could* make shells fun to use are all tied to higher-tiered cores and to a lesser extent some implants and what effects they can do.They should put back these increases how they were S1 but turn the Cradle into a means to try out shell cores at a lower strength to mix things up a bit.I just hope they don't change things so drastically every season, like a poormans Path of Exile; fucking hate that because sometimes PoE seasons release incredible gameplay loops or abilities and then we never see them again.
>>569883819Tried to do a Dire Marsh render, but the postprocessing added this dumbass fog effect.
>>569891636Neat
>>569891636Is it possible to get textures out of the map of is it all shaders for the colours?
>>569892220There are textures.
I find it appropriate to remind you that the following bugs on Night Marsh are still not fixed.>locked rooms have their shutters up, so you can enter by breaking the windows, but can't loot the containers>invincible UESC scouts spawn on Greenhouse and Bio Research>the Convoy doesn't spawn most of the time
>>569891636Makes you realize just how fucking small the actual maps are. Bigger maps pls
>>569892612>but can't loot the containerslook harderthere's one you can loot
>>569893074Which one?
>>569891470They could just go away with cores, introduce more mats, and you could customise your Shell with abilities, kinda like Cradle.So for example, 'sass would get>faster movement when crouching>faster movement when camo is active>longer smoke durationor>longer camo duration>increased melee damage when stealthed or in smokeor>camo at cost of heat when crouching and still or still and aiming down sightsNo more need for core swaps and such, and Shells get to be way more fun after most of the upgrades. Granted, having two top tier improvements would be a bit OP, so have just one.
>>569893074>you can lootMaybe, if you are a Thief or Vandal.
>>569893118You can loot one printer in Bio-Research but I don't know any other that is lootable.
>>569893948>Human face
>>569893948>Makes Regirock noises as she cums.
What rarity do you guys bring to normal runs?
>>569896304full fill? green/blue. trio stack? blue/purple/gold. I'm not risking my better gear on potential shitters.
>>569893948Fucking gooners...>world is going to shit>dating and online dating are toxic cesspits>AI slop up the assWhy do i even bother to be disappointed in the first place...
>>569873709Playing vulkan while taking my HRT!!!!!
>>569875986>have I cleared that POI?>how long has it been since the match started?Anon, if it’s been more than 5 minutes you have to assume that any POI has a team in it. Furthermore, if you learn the player spawns you can approximate where they are and where they can go.Example: you are at North Relay. If you assume pure aggression, within 5 minutes a team spawning in Hauler can show up, soon followed by a team spawning near Station. If you spend 10 minutes sucking your dick in North Relay for no discernible purpose, now you have to account for the fact that teams may have already looted some POIs and are moving around the map or are camping their POIs. Now play smart. Are you worried abou rats crouching in a corner? Wait for UESC to reinforce that location and force them to move. Nothing is forcing you to engage with an extremely risky POI. This is not rocket science. It is very easy to get good at this game, if you are able to exercise self-control.
watching.. waiting..
Another day, another massacre in the Hauler.
>>569898947its too easy to hear movement in the hauler. you can be on the second floor and clearly hear someone crouch-walking in the grass under the hull, they need to add an engine hum or something.
This is the most fun I had with a Bungie game since Destiny1 specifically.
I really fucking hate contracts that dont give me a waypoint. such a waste of time having to search for shit.
For anyone really into the lore there's some new name drops and a unknown runner (I'm thinking Sentinel; would make sense why he sounds like he's South American)
>>569893948I have seen this exact head on off model goonrenders of fem Automatons from Helldivers 2
>>569900421>Vulcan>herThat confirms, for those who still think otherwise, that Vulcan is the woman and not the lion.
>>569900729vulcan is the vacbed, they lady is just some slut
Well that's real fucking cute. guess i'll go fuck myself. thanks for nothing devs
Man, it's really hard to enter upper complex when the other 2 are off in another PoI doing god knows what.
>>569902221Small indie dev
>>569902221Oh, they haven't fixed that. Go find another one of these. There is one just east of intersection.
>>569902519>>569902221You can crawl under the truck and access a little back area.
>>569902727I tried that but i didnt see any entrances
>>569900729>>569901114I wonder if Vulcan is the next female shell we'll get?
>>569903007I think it's usually on the right side of the vehicle between the two tires, there should be a place that you can crouch walk under but maybe that specific truck is bugged. I know I've done it before with one of them on intersection.
>>569903174how the fuck are you gonna be the shell of a corp agent
So is it true that I shouldn't play solo? I don't wanna fill in with randoms. There's a solo queue but everyone keeps saying the game isn't meant for solos
>Doing rando Recon run for the thing for exfilling as every shell in the season>Also mission to waste clankers with AR>Spawn in at Hauler>Itsgotime.png>Absolutely slaughter them, get a nice green volt pistol to drop with good mods>Clear the place out>Across the long hall i see a Assassin with gold shields>I am no shield free kit rank 16 babbu>We both stop>I squat>He squats twice and throws me some blue shield health packs>I leave since he's probably here for something and i got my murderbot mission done, i've done my hauler missions and know they can be a bitch>Explore about getting greens for rank up bullshit>10 minute exfils pop, have to head by hauler>Big rocket fuck off thing hovers over, nope>Go around>Pass three dead shells>Get to efil thats been up the whole match, surely a rat but on recon at least i can know right?>Throw drone>Nothing>Pop exfil, almost done throw drone again>Nothing>Exfil and see gold shield assassin trying to take on rocket boss>He dies>Screen goes blackrip great man ;_;7
They should leave the sponsored survival mode and rotate the maps for it weekly. While working on improving it instead of trying to force people who enjoyed the mode and likely drew the new blood in because of said mode instead of trying to force them to suffer in the shitshow that is the current game. At least that way the loot economy still flows if someone royally fucks up to bots or gets bodied by a rook in the pvp-lite mode.>inb4 pvp fag whines at me
>>569903867Solo queue is fine you just can't play the same way as you do in trio fills
>>569903867I've been playing solo these two weeks since i bought the game and i'm having a great time. It feels like a slow paces stealth shooter which is as far away from destiny crucible as it gets and honestly is what i want. It feels like the closest i can get to metal gear online.
game is goodhow do we lure in more players?
>>569905478First we kill Destiny
>use the analyzer in Quarantine>scoured the whole area and don't find itlmao
>>569903867>So is it true that I shouldn't play solo?Thats just more /v/ misinformation, Ive played exclusively solo and never had any problems
>>569905478>how do we lure in more players?Unironically:Make the cradle a social hub, like Destiny's tower. Where people meet and play in third person.
>>569902221You only need 1 now. In S1 you needed 3.One in Alage Ponds. One right outside Quarantine to the westernmost side. One near Complex. They are mostly on the road. I think one is in Bio-Research.
>>569905256I disagree. From the point of view of solo the game doesn't hold up at all.
>>569905478Proper pve survival mode, arena pvp modes
any suggestions for this? I've scouted Perimeter and can't find anywhere high enough pinging directly down.I'm thinking I will leave a trap bag or two as bait
>Queue Sponsored Survival>Either me or someone else says "let's go complex">I say yes>I'm the only one who goes to complex, opening upper level alone, then running out of time while doing the "find my fucking buttons" puzzleEvery fucking time>>569907270I got it by accident while playing solo on Outpost. Killed an Assassin outside of orientation from the destroyed wing "balcony".
>Doing random Decon>Leave>Get sniped out of nowhere>Cuts to the came of the guy who did it>Gold shield assassin who was in a s shaped tunnel and in the tiny gap where both curves intercept got a heatshot>Watch him proceed to do this 3 more times in the space of 90 seconds>Keyboard logo next to namehmm.
>>569905478I joined because a friend recommended it. I like the game, I liked the graphics and sound design. Sadly though its a game for sociopaths; the kind of people who will camp by an exfil beacon for literally 15 minutes doing nothing so they can murder-steal a squads stuff at the last minute. Practically impossible to stop a well laid ambush as good guns are pretty much one-hit kills.Marathon is basically an elaborate hide and seek shooter, where the first person who gets seen gets murdered. Basically COD Modern Warfare in a new skin. If you like that type of gameplay, its 10/10 and best in class.For a lot of people, its offputting. I was raised on the Unreal Tournament / Quake 2&3 multiplayer that relies on movement, speed and skill in FPS games, rather than hide and seek ironsight aiming ambush killing. I also wish there was a deathmatch practice mode; you can play like an hour of the game and only get experience from a 30 second fire fight where you get one-shotted.I am aware I am a dying target customer in the gaming industry.
>>569906880This. Need PVP arena for practice.
>>569909674>>569906880As someone who sucks at the PVP, a good PVP mode that lets you respawn in a few seconds instead of having to>go through run report>back to main menu>select zone>select gear>match>wait 5-10m to match and loadwould be a fucking godsend. Being able to get more hands on time with the combat would help a ton.
>>569909484To be fair even Tarkov has an arena mode that's just TDM and shit like that with a healthy sub-population from the main game. There's no reason Bungie couldn't do something like that, if its framed appropriately.
>>569909892>>569910084These morons didn't even add a practice range, anons. It's dead.
>>569909484nta but well said. i'm playing the f2p week and thats the playstyle i was funneled into. the punishment for playing omega aggressive as if its an arena shooter most of the time in solo queue is debilitating. my aim is good and I can win most of my 1v1s. but I cant win against purple shields or some weapons that were 1 or 2 shotting me. naturally, going in as an assassin or rook and camping extract has net me some good loot.
>>569903867Solo is the best way to just beeline your missions or farm specific salvage but for everything else a team gets you better stuff and is more fun
>team mate loots before fighting ends>team mate loots before healing>team mate does not heal after fighting>team mate does not shut doors behind them
>>569910246Probably next season. That's when they promised onboarding improvements.
>>569911275>onboarding improvements 6 months after releasehilarious
I think I'm going to get this game at the end of the free period. There's still a couple of days for it to really put me off, but I like the feel of it now.>>569911035Yeah I'd agree with this. Trios gives you more of a fighting chance on combat against big groups of enemies and the harder objectives, but it does mean you're up against more people, and if your teammates aren't cooperative then you're not likely to get what you want done unless you're lucky.Solo is good for those missions you want to focus on where you're less concerned about loot (or even extraction).
>>569911385Your best bet is hoping for a core autist playerbase, a developer with no other options but to continue, and a Sea of Thieves/Fallout 76 situation.
>We get sequel logs to that one recording of Cole getting lost in the anomalySweet.
>teammate finds key>bunch of blues, nothing noteworthy>except the gold bag I swiped before anyone saw
>>569911416oh THIS fucks. Arachne seems to have some of the best shell skins.Cyberacme are fun for the monster energy look but god damn.
>>569911662>Arachne seems to have some of the best shell skins.They got added for the midseason update, after people complaining about the lack of Arachne skins. My theory is that these were supposed to be premium, but then it was quickly understood that people had higher standards. Now if only the existing free faction skins got touched up to rival this.
>>569911275>>569911385Only 6 months for better new player onboarding? Bungo is finally learning something!
>accidentally solo in trios>sure are a lot of people here>oh I 1vs3'd a team with freekit lmao
>>569911275>Reliving anything Bungie saysGod I miss being so fucking gullible and clueless about the innerworkings of game development.
>>569911662Should check out the one you get for Thief for getting a certain rank in PvP and the pay piggy one for Assassin. Probably the best looking ones in the game.Defenders is really nice too.
>>569911416>Solo is good for those missions you want to focus on where you're less concerned about loot (or even extraction).I'd argue that solo is better for loot since you get to keep all the loot you find. There aren't 2 invulnerable loot gremlins that you have to try to get ahead of.
>>569874874skill issue
>>569914425Those lips were made for sucking dick
>>569912382All that that means is that I have an expectation. If they don't do it, then I will be disappointed.
is anyone actually enjoying the sponsored queue? this changed my outloot on pve modes, this is too boring. i know the loot is really good for no investment or risk but nothing happens in the matches
>>569916253The loot is TOO good. I feel like I'm wasting my time going into anything else.
>>569916253i gave up on it the running is just too much for me, I prefer perimeter fucking around tbqh
It’s really something to try and wrap the mind around just how fucking retarded and incompetent anyone with decision making power at bungie truly is
>>569911568this game is a lot like sea of thieves i think
Why the left face? haha
>>569916253My most memorable run of season one is when a free-kit fill trio spawned at outpost dorms and ramped up to killing the warden with no other teams around.Sponsored marsh is like 75% the enjoyment of that. Most of the way, could be better.
>>569916253I feel good knowing that I can make back anything I lose within minutes.So Sponsored Narsh has made me become more aggressive in PvP. I even outright just look for players now, don't care if I lost my stuff.
>>569916253Of course it’s dogshit, the PvE in this game fucking blows, nothing about shooting UESC feels good or entertaining, it’s just a chore that can escalate into an outright nuisance. If you want PvE you can play some 50 other games and have more fun. It’s getting some degree of praise and I’m sure bungies metrics will tell them it’s popular but the majority are only running it because the loot is too free. If they had any idea what they were doing they would have axed grey sponsor kits totally and instead included the sponsored kit mode they introduced last season that got nothing but praise.
I started playing this week during the free weekend. Had my best match last night. Very fun game, you won me over
hiding here waiting 47 secs for tactical to recharge and fire
>>569918582I can't do this crashed ship by myself, but maybe I can gank someone who can
>>569919230saw the exfill go and finished someone as they exfilled lmfao
>>569906756Shut up retard>>569905256>metal gear I knew Iw asnt the only one who thinks of Metal Gear when i play Marathon. Much of its artstyle, especially the giant brightly colored buildings, remind me strong of The Phantom Pain and that game also has bright color coded boxes that you collect too and weapons with bright colors too (ie the tranq guns)
>>569872668>even with the free weekend we're struggling to attract players (mind you, the download is only like 25GB)I love the gameplay and thematic of Marathon but I think we need to be honest about where the game's at right now. Its still too hardcore and unfriendly to people who haven't been playing FPS games constantly for the last 20 years. I don't even know how they can solve that without reworking Marathon to the point where its not even an extraction shooter anymore. But at that point why even continue development? Not sure where Bungie goes from here now that they're 'all in' on Marathon but S3 is going to be do or die imo.
forgot pic but yeah Marathon's artstyle reminds me alot of MGSV
Mfw getting to level 21 and only then discovering what the "Cradle" is.Fuck my life, I was fighting and holding my own with level 20+ sweats with the heat and dexterity of a noob.
>>569920215>keep the pve-lite mode>have patrols of uesc roaming>ditch the timer>scale loot rarity to make golds and purples 1-3% and 5-7% chance drops in the pve mode >scale the patrols for killable if solo>leave the poi's more or less alone on scaling to give an actual challenge>reduce cool down for all runners including rooks>actually provide in map barter points to refresh kitc>hacking points for non rooks to get uesc credentials for maybe two minutes>keep cryo as pvp only or legendary tier difficulty if pve
this pve mode really is something huh
>>569920215>I don't even know how they can solve that without reworking MarathonThey already decided on reworking the game up to the one year anniversary (season 5). Depending on the results of this season's several experiments they will supposedly lock in a direction for season 3 and 4 with season 5 finalizing the rework and I'll bet they're also gonna release the game as free to play by then as a relaunch and that's gonna be the actual do or die moment for the game.Funnily enough if they go through with this rework they will get closer to Christopher Barret's original vision for the game which was basically a lite-mmo with extraction elements.
>>569920869the cradle is like 90% placebo
>looting some dead guy>insta lose all of my health by someone behind and dieuninstalling
>>569922554You were never gonna make it
>>569922156lmao no its like having another row of top tier implants
>>569923937Cool meme*snipes you* Guess you better uhhhh invest more cradle points hahawhich one reduces headshot damage?
>>569920215i'm just gonna be blunt and say that no amount of reworks to the core experience will bring in the masses. If the game's difficulty and onboarding experience were the primary reasons for the game's underperformance then that'd be represented in the CCU; high numbers initially followed by a large drop off. Instead, people aren't really showing up to play it even when it's free.The key inescapable issue is the art style. The extraction/survival audience and the wider mainstream FPS audience both have one thing in common - they have a very strong modern military shooters. Doesn't matter how noob friendly Marathon gets, CoD kids and Tarkovfags alike simply do not want to shoot 3D printed plastic guns at 3D printed plastic bots in 3d printed plastic buildings. The game just fundamentally does not appeal to the majority of its target audience.
>>569924772It took me a while to get used to the style, but I gave it an honest chance and eventually came to like it a lot.Sadly, most people aren't open to exposing themselves to something new.
>limit free kits to 3 per day>suddenly rook is incentivized>people learn they can collect tons of loot while learning the maps for free>bungie doesn't have to contort the game into pvp-lite garbage
>>569926169>playerbase freefall into negative
>>569924772It's a shame because personally I love the style enough to get to grips with the game.
>>569924772The style was what made me want to play. Although the older trailer kinda looked better.
>>569924772This is true. The art style is weird and abstract and it required to accept it in order to gel with it. Even if people were open-minded to that kind of thing, they would still prefer to time-sink in already established modern military shooter and this always been true for video games. There is nothing more normie appealing and broad strokes than realistic military themes.
>>569926327Already gonna happen after the free week ends
>>569924772I don't necessarily think that's the case.I personally think the skill ceiling is way to hard right off the bat and the beginner tutorial is atrocious to boot. Fuck, Tarkov has a safety pocket and this doesn't.All we can hope is that there's a strong enough, stable enough, autistic enough niche community to keep it afloat so it can go the route of Fallout 76 or Sea of Thieves.Even in Season 2 the game is bare bonesI will agree with you on one thing though. Perimeter is a MISERABLE map to start people off on. It's so fucking boring visually and large portions are of neutral grey stone and rock where it constantly rains with hazy atmospheric vibes - people never believe it but being a art major/color theory nerd you never want to onboard and have a starting map as miserable as Perimeter is with that color pallete and atmosphere combination, especially with a hardcore genre like this.>Weather that constantly makes you sleepy>Most of the land going from POI to POI is murkey, greens, greys, and darker browns>Hauler is a popular place to go and get one-tappedAll the makings of turning off any fucking new players to the gameOutpost, visually is way more engaging and colorful and you have those firestorms off and on that is a pop of color and means to retreat inside. All the rooms are yellows, oranges, and reds with splashes of aquas, greens, and blues with the museum and side-rooms of seagreens along with engaging areas like the cafeteria.Night Marsh is easy too, dark, forboding, void of color and only your fear if any and what lies in the dark with beautifully jarring, though muted colors of the Anomaly criss-crossing the middle of the zone for a backdrop of color with the ever present wisp tower of anomaly juice at the tower ontop of ComplexYou don't need to actively realize these things, your subconscious does though
>>569927695It's not like bungie fans are just getting bored of bungie games
>>569927137I do wonder if PVE will follow that original idea with a constant map people drop in and out of and the competition is getting to the limited loot pools or having to call in events to get more.
>>569926169>get recon scanned and run down like a dog by the trio that wiped the rest of the map>try to play friendly with another rook>get shot in the back and called a slurYeah I’m sure that’ll really hook the wider audience you fucking idiot
>>569928050DOA if that is the case.
>>569927725Dude Outpost is scary as fuck and DM has bad vibes. Perim is like a paradise in comparison. Some sort of tutorial island with palm trees and ocean lapping at your feet might have been a nice intro.
>>569928050This post is so insane it'll trigger some of the hardcore PvP Anons in here so...<<Trigger Warning>>Honest, to god, a constant, large map that's PvE with events and what have; similar to Fallout 76 would keep this game afloat for far longer. Doesn't have to interfere with PvPers or the core of the game, just something on the side.
>>569928297Maybe you could 3D print shelters
>>569926169Free kits are what kept me playing through the f2p.
>>569928410Lowkey I'd love that; I want to fucking walk around or make a base that we see in the backdrop of S2 UI
>>569928238>Some sort of tutorial island with palm trees and ocean lapping at your feet might have been a nice intro.if only we had something like that on tau ceti...
>>569925657I can relate to this, in that I eventually got used to the art styleI don’t think it’s a good idea to run with an art style people need to “get used to” though to begin with.>>569927725Heavily agree, perimeter was such a massive fucking fumble and I do think it’s at least half the reason the games visuals were met with such disdain. Goddamn piss ugly map, hollow sterile vibe. Terrible contrast between the buildings and surrounding environment, what were they thinking?
>>569927725>It's so fucking boring visually and large portions are of neutral grey stone and rock where it constantly rains with hazy atmospheric vibesThere's so many analogues to this environment on earth that are beautiful and unique, how did they end up with a muddy cow pasture flanked by megascan rocks.
>>569928595build drone factories to recon the area, antenna relays to communicate with ships for supplies, supply drop pads, algae farms to grow food, drive a hauler to build data wall networksI've said it before in these threads, it should have been a space colony management game. Imagine all the vehicles and people walking around doing stuff.
>>569924772at this point I'd be worried about bungie getting canned before the end of 2027. Whoever made the decision to completely axe Destiny 2 is probably going to get fired after tomorrow's expected debacle. Marathon should have been a niche, side game developed with a low budget for the relatively small community of us that enjoy hardcore pvp games. I have no idea why Bungie is trying to make Marathon their 'main' game. That is a massive mistake. I can acknowledge that Marathon is never going to be mainstream or popular enough to fund a studio of 600+ fucking people. Destiny is casual enough to do that. There's no reason why they can't have both games under development at once, especially since Marathon at this point is probably lower upkeep.
>>569928891The only thing I didn't like was the guns and icons for items, like what the fuck did i just pick up? The colours and style are great otherwise.
F ;_;
>>569929808>travel 300 years to be raped by a plant
You can enter duo queue as a pair of rooks by the way
>>569929808Ouch.
>>569930126That's patched now
>>569929808Spoil me I already uninstalled. Figuring out the colony's fate was the only fun part of the game for me.
>>569930873No fun allowed
>>569931664Just do the NuCaloric contracts
>>569931664we're just starting to figure out what actually happened to the colony
-10k players from SundayAbsolutely gaped
>>569931664tau ceti iv is a sleeping god. UESC woke it up. it started fucking with the colonists from every angle, including contaminating their crops
>>569932346The story is a mess though. Did that happen with the original colony or with the new colony? We'll never have a definite timeline because Bungie will keep everything vague.
>>569932346Also they are doubled fucked because The AYY's invaded and crippled the Marathon, its not only got no working engine or life support but doesn't even have power generators left and is running on fumes and solar panels but the leadership chose to cover this up because if they knew not only how bad the planet was but that they couldn't evacuate to the ship they would riot
Well shitI couldn't figure out how to get past this barrier...had to exfil
Anyone else play on PC but unironically use a controller because its more comfy
>>569932346>>569932579The anomalies started before UESC arrived.The colonists arrived, then spent anywhere between 30 to 35 years - upwards to 40 years on their own dealing with anomaly nonsense ontop of dealing with the Pfhor. The Security Troops (ones like we played as in the original trilogy fought off the Pfhor once and then five years later they arrived and killed them all and abducted a large portion of the colony.Leading up to this the colonists ran out of food and realized that they can't eat the food from Tau Ceti so they started crossbreeding it with their own genetics from animals and insects from Earth - for a small while they were fine but people either died, started to hear voices and go insane, or turn into mushrooms like that one Doctor on Perimeter. All the makings of what occured in Pathways into Darkness which as of right now, canonically is a prequel to the initial trilogyIn it we learn that a W'rkncacnter is sleeping inside Earth and an advance race of aliens, not the Pfhor (cant recall thier name atm) told Bill Clinton and his White House. We are then tasked with nuking the sleeping cosmic horror to make it go back to sleep -- as it wakes up, from this game, people, human start to go insane and morph into crazy fucking shit - the same MO we're seeing on Tau CetiThe UESC don't arrive until HUNDRED years later after the colony went quite (thats how long it took for them to arrive) then after the UESC arrived the factions we have NOW arrived 25 year laterWe are here.
>>569926169>make the game ever more punishingPlayercount crashes to literally 0 as this gets implemented btw.
>>569933348bungie games literally give rollers more bullet magnetism. so it makes sense.
>>569928101Could easily be fixed by introducing SCAV Karma
>>569933372I really like the bungie myth, with its recurring elements and different interpretations across various game series. Hoping they don't shut down so we get more of it.
>>569933761imo most likely outcome of this whole saga is Marathon continues development with a lower budget, smaller dev team (as it should have been all along) while production for Destiny 3 starts within a year or so.
Where does this fit into current Marathon lore?
>>569933372As a side-barIf Sony decides to stubbornly double-down on supporting Marathon for the forseeable future they could easily make a Single-Player set during the time the Pfhor invaded or we can play as a UESC Bot when the UESC arrived.They could also go a different route and have PvE related to us trying to put the fucking cosmic horror god back to sleep. In Pathways into Darkness humans started to hear whispers and mutate telling them to dig further into the earths core to wake up the sleeping god.In Nu-Marathon 2026 there are codex entries from Perimeter where people are hearing their deceased loved ones, some asking them to start digging into the groundOn Outpost, looking at the map in-game, on the far-right corner of the map, go to the dock (its a starting position too) look out to the horizon and even closer, you can barely make them out but there are pyramids in the distance, like the one from Pathways into Darkness built for the W'rkncacnter gotta way for the lightening to strike near you and off the horizon and you can see themWe are so fucked.
>>569933558I mean for me its just that I'm 30 years old and have basically no experience with FPS games on kb+m so I just don't have the reflexes required. I used to play a lot of CoD and Destiny 1 on PS4 so I'm a lot more used to that.
>>569933931In the original trilogy the main character lives different lives in different realities and possibilities, in one of them is Myth (I actually think there's a ancient easter egg in the second or third game about it)
>>569924772Legitimately it's my belief that the only major issue with the artstyle is that most of the shells just do not look great and it's an easy target for people to latch on to and say is DEI wokeslop to dismiss the gameHad they at least shown off Thief primarily in earlier promotional material instead of Vandal there would be a way different general public opinion. Sentinel is easily the strongest design. Just faceless operator looking guy always just flat out looks cool and if the shells look more like that than Destroyer & Recon with their exposed mouths, Assassin with his lightskin bisexual look, or Triage straight up being robot black man then it'd be much easier for people to stand behind the game because the player characters look coolI realize the shells having human faces is probably strongly intended for the whole existential aspect of the game, but it was just a misstep with so many aspects of this game
>>569933890>while production for Destiny 3 starts within a year or so.That would be worst case. Not because D3 gets made but because a single year is not nearly enough to lay the groundwork for a new narrative and make all new assets.
>>569929808Just you wait until you listen to Joy's logs.
Halo was a remix of bungie's recurring elements too, wasn't it?
>>569873334There's already a scroll bar on the left retard. Go be disengenious somewhere else.
>>569934535I'd rank Vandal the lowest of the bunch. I understand the approach to her look, being the MIDA shell and MIDA being anarchists and punks, but I still don't like it. I will always prefer armored supersoldiers and operators.
/mg/ when I tell you I'm an absolute shitter I mean it, I'm not very aggressive in my plays and horrible and positioning. I know the basics though.What I would love to know and appreciate is what in the Cradle I should be maxing out first so I can be of any use to my team.>Image related what I've done so far.
>>569934903>Joy was able to, hopefully, save the colonists by moving their consciousnesses into the Marathon until help arrives
Okay but where the FUCK are Tycho and Leela?
I didn't think that maybe another factor in there constantly losing players is because they're hackers
>>569935552I like Vandal - but I kind of agree with you that she doesn't fit with the rest of the cast.I wonder if the style of the shells would be explained more easily if you had to unlock each other (besides the destroyer, the 'default', and recon, the scout) through the different corps, thus explaining their overall 'vibe'.>nucaloric: triage>MIDA: vandal>arachne: assassin>sekiguchi: thief>traxus: sentinel
>>569935986Leela was tossed away half-fused I believe to another alien AI and are still in the void of space into affinity.Her newest iteration is that of ONI the AI for CyAcTyco still has it out for Drundel and last I recall sided with the Pfhor I think? Some lore peeps think that maybe one of the faciton AIs is him
>>569936287Leela basically got speedran through the rampancy process after being uploaded to some alien's massive intra-stellar planetary network because she suddenly had access to yottabytes of information or something. I think it'd be funny if she came back and was kind of cunty but that might muscle in on Durandal's turf.
>>569932310S2 is dogshit this game is dead
we got message board creepypasta lore over here
>>569936691Even in the far flung year of 2893 some faggots still go >lmao that's shopped
>>569936587I mean, the faction progression is totally fucked.>hit VIP>still cannot hit 5th or 6th capstone because mats might as well not exist.Final month of S1 was fantastic. S2 right now? Shitshow. The only consolation i have is that sponsored-only Night Marsh is kinda spooky-sneaky, and Cradle is nice though needs to be extended a bit.
filling vandal with cum
>cradle perk slots don't give stats, just the perk>capstone perks for some of the stat lines are dogwater
>>569937371Those hips were meant to bear children
>>569937285Makes me wonder and worry that we haven't seen a roadmap for Season 2 yet and what sorta events we might get again akin to CARRI or something.
>>569937371shorty came out a worms ass but my dick don't know that
>>569937681I honestly will just try to hit 100, and VIP in factions. And call it quits. Not loot, not Cryo, can keep me playing this game.
>>569938342Same here probably.
>>569937681I'm assuming roadmap this or next week.
>>569938342I was thinking the same last season. Then I came back anyway.
>>569939224All depends on what they will roll out. If they do same shit for other maps, especially Cryo, like they did for sponsor-only Night Marsh? Sure, i'll play Cryo. Hell, gimme PvE and i'll play it for quite some time because then atleast i can appreciate art/design/aesthetics. Yet as it is now... nah.
stopped playing like a month before wipe, just played a few sponsored survival matches. It's okay but gets boring. How is the actual season progression?
>>569940637Better than last season.
there's a chance bungie doesn't survive at the end of the year.free week was marathon's chance at attracting a wider audience, and no one gave a shit.there *MIGHT* be a chance with monument of triumph update tomorrow, but the people have to show up, and even if they DO show up, they then have to believe the same company that was willing to kill spiderman instead of receiving freem disney money for showing a character for 5 minutes on screen will again come around to logic and reason.bungie will be lucky if they make it to 2027. dont know what happens to d1 and d2 servers, and i dont have a clue what they will do with marathon. tomorrow interesting, dont get your hopes up.
>>569941749even if 100k people logged onto destiny tomorrow Bungie is not working on it anymore. They've already made that very clear. There is zero hope and zero chance. Marathon not retaining nearly any of the free weekers is the final nail in the coffin. We're down 9k from the same time yesterday. We're gonna be below 20k peaks next week again.
>>569941960>100k peopleits likely to be over 200k peak. I don't get why bungie is so intent on going down with the marathon ship. Marathon is going to be sub 10k active playercount by next week....again.
>>569941960Sony has stated as much as well, and they're the one calling the shots.In fact, Sony is on board with Marathon.
Been thinking about taking Thief solo into trios lobbies to min-max on pickpocketing. The idea is trio lobbies are louder and see more action, so more opportunities to throw a drone out and chain-steal. Am I crazy? Anyone else doing anything like that?
>>569942038>>569941960where were the 200k people playing it for the last few years?
>>569942038I know I'm a minority here but I'm just sick of Destiny. Bungie never living up to the game's potential was disappointing, hopefully a smaller scaled game like Marathon will fare better. Naively optimistic I know.But also I have grown to hate the community. Nothing but mentally handicapped manchildren and complaining bitches.
>>569942263That guy is being unrealistic. There is 30k people on right now (more than marathon lol) and realistically, we will probably be seeing numbers in the 70-100k range. There's no way it will be 200k. And then the population will probably rapidly decline as everyone remembers why they left and thats its pointless to grind when nothing new is coming
Destiny has players, but makes no moneyhttps://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/sony-says-destiny-2-has-underperformed-since-it-acquired-bungiehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/12/28/destiny-2-is-a-2023-steam-platinum-earner-while-missing-revenue-projections-by-45/
>>569942698Unsurprisingly, bot accounts for a F2P game don't spend money to contribute to its development.
>>569941749parasitic existence, one can't survive without the other. I've seen people talking about updates to marathon after this to keep the game going or more successful, but it's not making money RIGHT NOW. the dev cycle is in a weird place and sony is looking for it to be a profit. there's even a chance, though small, that IF the d2 update tomorrow soars in playercount and holds it for...5 days, that sony just gets pissed and closes the entire studio down before they lose more money.this situation is fucked.
>>569942469200k players online across console and PC is very realistic. You have to remember Destiny is very popular on console, whereas Marathon is not. Marathon is very much primarily a PC game, Destiny is much more evenly split.
>>569943052>parasitic existence,That's a symbiotic existence, where two organisms benefit from coexistence.Parasitism means one leeches off its hosts to benefit alone, often detrimental to the host, sometimes lethal.
>>569943105there's currently 421,395 users playing d2.https://popularity.report/also i think they are referring to steamdb numbers
>>569943485Yeah but again, none of these people actually spend money on Destiny.
>>569943330yeah, and i stand by the verbage. both ip's want the same players, and both ip's are in a state where the death of one kills the host, bungie.
>>569942698oh it makes money just not enough to fund 2 non destiny incubation projects while also funding destiny.
>>569943612>instead of reworking the monetization model, they kill off the IP entirelyAmazing work Bungie, looking forward to the 'Gaming Behemoth Bungie Closes its Doors after 25 Years' headlines in 6 months time. Because that's exactly where the studio is headed now.
>>569943654It's funny because, if the people spending money on subscriptions and donations for clowns like Aztec Ross, would instead spend the money on Destiny, they would have their Destiny 3.
>>569944203>>569943654I actually just think its a matter of the monetization model that Destiny had being poorly designed. Paying for expansions is a bad idea in a live service game, unless the newest expansion gives all the older ones (IE like WoW).
>>569873451>claim game isn't boring dogshit>it's dying because no one played it>only reason there's so much interest is because it's being sunsetDestiny was a dogshit series and if Marathon turned into Destiny I'd just stop playing
So why can't I used the Dire Marsh Sponsored kit in Sponsored Survival? It says it needs to be a standard kit, but the Dire marsh one is enhanced? So why give it out then?
>>569945081>Marathon turned into Destiny I'd just stop playingI mean what do you want Bungie to do at this point. Seriously, if you were Bungie how would you proceed? Marathon is a good game in its niche but that niche is so, so particular that it cannot support a studio of 100 developers, much less the 500+ team that Bungie employs. Do you lay off staff and go through ANOTHER drama-filled shitshow and give Marathon one update per year? Or do you rework the game to try to make it appeal to more players? The game is going to struggle to break 10k active players after f2p week ends dude, Bungie and Sony has to do something. Even people who love the game know this shit isn't sustainable.
>>569945081I loved Destiny 1. Destiny 2 never really recaptured that magic for me. Even during its best moments my impression was always "they this is sort of like Destiny 1".
>tons of bugs>Sentinel is weak>armory weapons are kind of shit, except the shockingly OP D54>can't buy snipers, shotguns, or claymores anymore >have to go back to grey/green shields>have to do all those shitty contracts like co-evolution againNightmarsh is okay, I like the cert gimmick. Everything else is spoiling the game for me.
>>569875272not enough tells? my man, you can hear literally every little thing another player does in this game. im literally half deaf in both ears and I can hear people opening their maps, switching from crouch to standing, even people fucking ADS'ing
>>569945501biggest problem with d2 is that is was never meant to be updated for as long as it has been. The original plan from Activision was to create a new Destiny game every 3-4 years. After Bungie bought themselves out, they decided to try to keep updating Destiny 2. However they ran into massive storage problems because, again, the game was not designed to have this much content in it. Hence why sunsetting became a thing. If they didn't do sunsetting the game would be well over 300gb at this point.
>sponsored fill>our 3rd doesn't have a mic>also never heals his shields>just keeps going and looting>suggest he should probably heal>doesn't heal>goes down to a robot>rez him>this happens 2 more times before they just rage quitare zoomers just used to their shields recharging or some shit?
>>569946221Semi-on topicWhy is it there are so many players that clearly see they only have a minute to 40secs to get to exfil but are still looting and 600 to 800m away???Or how many fill runners want to do Night Marsh Upper Complex at 2mins till ExfilThen they cry because we didnt wait
>>569876803do you want the game to give you a fucking Teams notification and a little dinggg when someone gets within 100m of you or something?how about you fucking pay attention and quit bitching like a little crybaby faggot
>>569941749Marathon is competing with Hunt Showdown right now for player numbers. While having a much larger developer team and being F2P right now. The game is doomed unless Sony gives them a year to course correct and hope for a miracle.Unfortunately Bungie's goodwill has long since blown away with years of Destiny 2 mismanagement and I really don't see how Marathon ever becomes successful.
>>569946593how you do even course correct this game though? There's nothing to correct. The game is performing excellent in the genre that its in. The problem is that genre is incredibly niche and most gamers aren't interested in extraction shooters.
>>569900729how do you know the lion isn't a woman? or trans?
>>569945460I'd accept that my company is fucked because I mishandled 12 years with a money printer and let Pete Parsons rape me and try to at least end it with a good game with real vision.
>>569903867solo is good if you hate PvPmost solo lobbies are shy runnahs just trying to stealthily get their objective or material harvest donei do it because taking it slow on narsh is very immersive. i play it like i would metro
>>569935643You want two points in melee damage at least so you can one shot basic bots and tick nests.
Something is weird with the sound. Sometimes I'll be right by my teammates who are shooting and I can't hear it or only faintly. Verticality and the space you're in seem to affect it
>>569947586solo narsh on the real game mode is really fun but trios (and duos) narsh is kind of fucking rough.
>Marathon May Never Be Popular, And That’s Why It’s So Good>Marathon is niche and strange, and that should earn our kudos, not our ire.>By Grace Benfell on June 7, 2026 at 1:04PM PDT https://www.gamespot.com/articles/marathon-may-never-be-popular-and-thats-why-its-so-good/>Marathon is burdened with the past. Its twin namesakes, the titular colony ship and the trilogy of classic boomer shooters for the Apple Macintosh, are both corpses plundered for new life. The protagonists of this new, rebooted game are scavengers, quite literally picking over the bones of what came before. >This fact has colored the reception of Marathon from its very first announcement. The fact that Marathon was set to be a pure live-service game, with no single-player component, was a blow to franchise fans. Sony’s acquisition of Bungie fueled speculation. Was Marathon a corporate-mandated multiplayer game? >Just a couple months after release, the announcement of Destiny 2’s final update, as well as the revelation that Bungie had no “Destiny 3” or any other tentpole project waiting in the wings, have put Marathon in a difficult and unfair position. But part of the skepticism about the game exists because Marathon, unlike every Bungie game since Halo: Combat Evolved, is not a game expertly tuned for mass-market success. Instead, it is something altogether stranger and more exciting.>Perhaps the best way to articulate this shift is the difference in themes. In Destiny and its sequel, the player character is special. She is a warrior of light, one of the absolute guardians of humanity. She gathers legendary weapons that do not tarnish or vanish. She charts new worlds, venturing boldly into fights with gods and demons alike.
>>569949048>In Marathon, the player character is nobody: a floating consciousness uploaded into readily disposable bodies. She’s a freelancer for massive corporations, which freely experiment with her, risking her well-being for ever-slimmer margins of profit. Even the Compiler, the raid boss that presents one of the new game’s most daunting challenges, is a regularly encountered foe in the original trilogy. >In Destiny, even in the competitive Crucible modes, the player is a key part of an organization that works together. In Marathon, she is just one soldier on the edge of space, fighting her own kind to tick down a debt she can never fully pay.>But these differences go beyond Marathon’s writing, and into the brass tacks of how it feels to play; it is friction-forward in a way multiplayer games at its budget and scale rarely are. In contrast to the nigh-infinite vaults of Destiny 2, Marathon players have limited space to store their goods. They can horde, but eventually, if they want more, they have to stake some of their hard-worn gear. With each season, like in other extraction shooters like Escape From Tarkov, each player’s gear fully resets. Absolutely nothing is permanent. The only thing that any player can carry from season to season, and match to match, is what they have learned. This includes the regular skills of any first-person shooter: what guns suit a particular playstyle, where is best to flank enemies, find cover, or avoid the sight lines of enemy snipers. >But Marathon’s sprawling maps make the simple act of learning more difficult than it might appear. For one, the alien world of Tau Ceti IV is awash with unfamiliar sounds. Players opening loot-laden locked rooms, starting specific events, gaining the attention of patrolling robots, even simply dying–each of these things carries with it a unique sound cue. Learning what each sound means and how to get in position in relation to it is its own battle.
>>569949048>>569949189>A lot of the discourse around Marathon has posited essentially one of two things about it: that it is a money-grubbing cash-in on a popular trend, or that it fails at being a mainstream title at the scale of Destiny 2.The graveyard of live-service games like Highguard and Concord have prompted constant comparison. But Marathon is not a shotgun blast, trying for the broadest possible appeal; it is a knife’s edge, cutting away at a well-defined niche.>Take the Compiler, the game’s ultimate PvE challenge. To get there, players must successfully raid each of the Cryo Archive map’s six vaults and exfil with their goods intact, which they will need special keys to attempt in the first place. After doing so, they must use a separate key to activate a set of challenges, which will lead to the boss room. These things would be significant time investments in any game, but in Marathon, the threat of an ambush by other players is constant, making a team lose both progress and loot in a single fiery enchange. >In contrast, a casual Destiny player could “beat” the game, at least in the sense of completing its many campaigns, without spending hundreds of hours on it. With a little dedication, she could even see some endgame bosses. Marathon demands more. If not more time, at least more skill.
>>569949048>>569949189>>569949361>Still, Marathon has become more approachable over its first season. Mercy kits let players revive their foes, offering another way to negotiate between enemy squads. Bungie added cheap ways to get back up when down, making it harder for runs to end thanks to enemy robots or far-off sniper shots. Season 2 has more of those changes in store. The Cradle, a brand-new stat system, lets runners tune their character’s strengths and weaknesses without looting or buying items. Upgrades, which players buy with a combo of cold, hard cash earned on runs and materials robbed from Tau Ceti, now can be purchased for less. But these changes have all maintained the heart of Marathon’s eerie, threatening landscape.>For example, take the “Sponsored Survival” experimental mode just added to the game. In this mode, only one squad enters the “Night Marsh” map, giving them time to loot without (player) inference. They must take free equipment, meaning they cannot carry any loot from their vaults to lose or use in the match. However, Rooks, the lone scavenger players who propagate in the middle of matches, all enter the map just a few minutes later. And unlike other Marathon modes, there is only one place to extract at the end of the match. If the lone team or any of the rooks make it to the end, they can all leave together–or test their might in a hail of gunfire. It makes looting easier; but extraction more targeted.
>>569949048>>569949189>>569949361>>569949495>And this all takes place on Night Marsh, which drenches a familiar location in darkness. In most video game nights, the world takes on the hue of dusk. It’s sort of dark, but everything you need to see is still visible. In Marathon, the night is pitch black, with occasional lights illuminating only select sections of the map. Additionally, the player’s eyes and ears will trick her. Ghostly figures can wander by, vanishing as soon as they appear. Shouts and screams will emerge from the dark, seemingly without source. If speculation is correct, there are fewer enemy players to be found than on the more standard “Dire Marsh” map. But even so, the world holds threat.>These might all sound like reasons not to engage, but all these things combine to make something with genuine mystery and awe. Marathon’s most game-changing loot and its most profound challenges might be locked away, but anyone can start to get the picture from their very first match. The electronic hum of the starting music. The terror of enemy footsteps. The thrill of a well-timed attack. Deciding not to extract, because there is still loot waiting to be found, and dying from greed. Or besting an enemy team’s ambush through guile and speed. >Within Marathon’s nigh-endless deaths and rebirths, there is the rush of life. It is stressful, demanding, and by definition “not for everyone,” but that’s true of most things that are worth your time.
>>569949048>player character>shestopped reading
>>569950012>By Grace Benfell>SheStopped reading
>>569949048This sounds more like a puff piece paid for by Sony than their opinion
