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FIRST FOR HALBERDIEEEEEERS
undead general
Shield and spear dwarf units doko?
Thanquol soon, friends!
>want to spam magic>remember tzeentch what did my niggers tzeentch do to deserve only 2 LL post dlc?
Loli. Legendary. Lords.
>>569962117bro, your mods?
>>569962189mods don't bring faction unique mechanic
>>569962263SFO does, but it doesn't bring LLs. Kairos is pretty good with the cataclysm spells.
>>569962263As if many added factions are not a mix of different old mechanics. At least unpaid modders are more reliable than this small indie company.
>>569961973mogged unfortunately
did that lizardman rework ever happen? what was changed?
So how was the beta? Are we close to release?
>>569963831As expected 40k doesn't work with the TW formula.
>>569963831beta isn't happening until like december
>>569963831Dropped it after the George Floyd cameo.
Fuck this shit.
How will ca support 10 years of twwh40k on xbox series s?
>>569967437:(
>>569961842Athena is pretty based
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875406026
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war (war = skirmishes with <2000 unit models total)
>>569969156thanks for letting me know, I reported it
this is the most honest media crossover TT has had.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztzq05IzYds
>>569969156what's the point when the unit models nor the voice lines will match?
Killer of chariots and cannons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8vfVXN9w8
>>569964716me on the right
>>569970395Wow, a Space Marine!
>>569970021They were also the killer of framerates until fairly recently.
How do I throw this shit away I'm an order faction
it's June and still no news regarding this summer's End Times DLCconcerning
>>569973247December release for the third time!
>>569973247Soon, trust CA
>>569973247Who are the DLC LLs for End Times? Nagash and who else?
>>569973571me
>>569973571Boris Todbringer
>>569973571Nagash and Toddeh are the only confirmed onesI think the leak was Thanquol/Glottkin/Moonclaw for some reason
>>569973601>>569973732>boring shitbringer>empire DLCcringe
Vampire Counts are so comfy to play.
>>569975423choosens of Ulric coming
>>569976051took me a while to get the growth comes from the necromancer hero
>>569973571
>>569976523what a fucking downgrade, he lost his edge
i am strongly considering a cao cao campaign
Best special location for the gates
>>569976523You can literally see the downgrade from WH1 models to the WH3 Fortnite aesthetic
>>569976756are you feeling like it's a very Chinese time in your life rn?
>>569976854yeah too much color
>>569976803Nu, uh.
>>569969172So obviously a forced complaint. It could be a hundred times the scale and still not even begin to portray the kinds of battles that happen in the lore.
>>569977314never had this one uh
Sqvire when is the Bretonnian rework?
>>569977909Empire exclusive maybe ?
>>569977053perhaps
...what
>>569978882They start at war with squidwardSo "the enemy of my enemy is my fren"
>>569978528this one I got it>>569978451mon seigneur...
>>569976523To be fair Toddy is supposed to have a big red beard, the WH1 model got it wrong.
Am I just supposed to build the most expensive tower in sieges or are they specialized for certain units?
>>569980301>most expensive tower in siegesyes
>>569980301Built a random 1 turn siege ram and then auto next turn :3
>>569980301Every faction has different projectiles, and they've messed with a lot of values since release. The tier 3 is usually the best effect for cost, but you just have to experiment over the course of the campaign. Sometimes it's a bit bugged and they are all the same, so you might as well do tier 1 everywhere.
>>569981001Alright thanks. Wish it wasn't so hard to tell.
>family member plugs in hair dryer in the next room>game crashes
>>569976756
>>569978662> I, Cao Cao, and you, Liu Bei, are the only two worthy heros in the world.The plum garden conversation between Cao and Liu Bei is so fucking based man. Easily my favorite chapter in the book.
>>569982824wtf my game crashed too
>>569963761Tech tree is less shit.
>>569970021I am heavily tempted to learn map making and modding to replace all the Cathay battle maps, besides shit like rice paddies killing chariots, practically all maps favor 1 side in terrain.
Behold! A decoy grandfather!
>>569985676Making non-siege maps is easy and fast. Making siege maps is pure pain in the ass that takes 10x longer and is full of idiotic busywork.
>want end times narrative campaign>want a big chaos vs order vs undead vs skaven duel>want the archaon rework>want the rework to corruption to make it more meaningfulEnd times cannot come soon enough.
>>569963653The fact that these guys don't stand in a rank-and-file formation always gets my goatYou're professional fucking militiamen with polearms why are you standing around all disorganized like some mob of peasants?!
>>569987264slavs are too stupid to understand tactics, this has been proven for hundreds of years at this point
Sex with Miao Ying (Changeling)
>>569987334>slavicized https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuLPzukltH0
>>569987668>Miao Ying (waxed vagey)I, for one, welcome our new Tzeentch overlord.
explain to me why cant changeling get the mounted versions90% of LLS are shit without their mountOMG I HECKIN LOVE BEING UNMOUNTED SETTRA>inb4 cant transform into 2 entitiesyet he can transform into blue scribes, the whores of twilight, vilitch, luthor harkon, katarin's 2 ass cheeks
40k looks so good bros
ONIONS FOR THE ONIONS GOD
>>569988634Yep, + gods general for now, what are you loving about it most sis?
>>569988936It's more about warcore's potential and all the lessons learned from WH1-3. It's like people act surprised 40k won't be a complete game on launch, but that's a given
>>569988889they make you brap, therefore praying Nurgle
>>569989157no that was garlic
Skarbrand campaign fucking sucks
What are the odds of CA adding chaos as a 5th faction for 40k without telling anyone until release
>>569989702takes some time to get the ball rolling, it's really about timing your skulls buffs and invocations like the small army made to replenish your movement
only brown people autoresolve
>>569989806I want to unga bunga I don't want to synchronize my mensturation with my horoscope and the moon cycles.This race is lame.
>>569986574>>569985676I would like to see a more realistic sige map. Not this TW shit where the map is 50% city.If the enemy breaches the walls, it's usually just fucking over irl. When the enemy walks the streets, morale drops to zero as they can just torch the house (of the soldiers) and slaugther civilians (related to the soldiers).A map with ramparts, trenches, hazards and other defendable chokepoints with an edge or a small corner with a control point behind unclimbable and unpenetrable walls would still be doable.And I do mean inpenetrable, people didn't just demolish walls with artillery, they massacared the defenders with it until they sally out (which the AI doesn't, which is half the problem).Reworking this in the meta aspect would also be an option if you add a "sallied out" map and reduced the turn count on encirclement. As it stands, the attacker either waits out 15 turns to claim 1 city that is unable to do anything in the meanwhile or the defender leaves the walls, leaves even the proximity any defensible position and meets the enemy in bumfuck nowhere forest with the garrison. Some "sally out" map with a defensible position for the one sallying out but not stuff like the attacker being immediately in range of towers or similiar crap would be a good way to go about it. Or attacking anemy siege camp at night with them having a different deployment shape. Any kind of battle map at this point would alliviate the issue of all campaign map tactics boiling down to "meet in open field" or "king of the hill maze, but (your) AI can't navigate there"
>>569989997if you want a big pile of violence without timer try Throgg it's more immediate
>>569989997Join the herd now, anon.
>>569990157I have tried beastmen a dozen times and they too are way too cerebral for me. Way too many extra resources and screens with things to unlock and manage.I managed to win one VH Warrios of Chaos campaign after restarting them for 200 hours, because they only have souls and dark fortresses as a mechanic.
>>569989719almost nill since chaos in 40k is boring
>>569989971The game is piss easy if you fight every fight manually, autoresolving makes the game harder unironically.
>>569990431ok samir
I played the beta and
>>569990352My honest advice is to play chaos dwarves and not interact with their mechanics. They are like a modern gatcha character: 3 pages of text that don't matter because it works out in the end anyway
>>569990713Start a Slaanesh campaign and auto resolve everything, see how far you get.
>>569990824ok walid
>>569990431>he has armies that can win in autoresolve
Post playtime.
>>569991169
>>569991169ok babe (i never played 1 or 2)
>>569969156>5 stars>408 ratingsWhy do chinks love low effort ai mods so much?
>>569991169I got no friend or life but I got GRUDGES
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
>>569977314order locations be like"+5 armor when fighting chaos, replenishment in enemy territory, -20% upkeep factionwide,-1 to recruitment in local province"chaos locations be like"+10 armor when local recruiting cavalry units on a turn number that ends in 7, 1% chance to raze all your settlements, delete your armies, and remove all traits from your LL"
>>569991303You don't like anime?
>>569991678slop
>>569992340You're complaining about slop when playing the third installation of a game series?
>>569992427But that's a different kind of slop
>>569989719They would be a preorder faction if retards didn't shit themselves about free preorder factions every fucking timeInstead they will sell them for full price a month or two later.
>>569992427total war general
>>569992775anime website :3
they should have made boris a seperate character pack because empire doesn't need more units, we are reaching radious level with dlc powercreep, meanwhile other factions like bretonnia and dark elves are still the same
Put your pass back on
>>569993437okay :3
guys... the new total war 40k isn't looking so great, why do the battles look like waterloo?
>>569993065
Saw this reenactment of hoplite battle and was struck by how quickly things resolve, more akin to Shogun 2's combat than Rome II or especially the "historical immersion" mods like DEI where hoplites are tanks who hold the line for ages.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VerlSW1iPJ8
>>569995214intéressant !Monseigeur Dubussy, bisou
reminder that if your guns are magical you are gay and stupid and gay
>>569995676*shoots you with my rifle (magic)(flaming attacks)(suppresive fire)(frostbite)(poison)*
Reminder that you forgot
TW40k Switch 2 edition about to be announced
>>569996656Sega can't even force Atlus to put Persona 6 on it yet
>>569995465There's English subtitles if you don't understand French, mon ami! ;)
Janny (You) can delete this general on sight until Nagash is released. None of us are playing TW again until then so there's no point in /twg/ cluttering up the log. We're all playing openfront, and looking out the window to pass the time. Sigh. We don't car about anything being posted in this thread.
>>569997038t'es con ou quoi, connard
>>569963653>less HP>less defense>less attack>less damage>less leadership>no expert charge defense>barely a few gold cheaper per turnmogging who? not empire halberdiers, thats for sure
>>569988889https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr5g-oMwAjY
I want a mod in Total War 40K that will allow my female Farseers and Autarchs have bodyguards of young guardsmen twinks.
What factions are more fun on small unit sizes?
I'm on a turn 40 Elspeth campaign.Should I be running ANY melee units at all outside of heroes? Another anon questioned my use of cannons but before tier 4 I can't recruit any artillery but cannons and mortars. Is it outrider and grenadier spam until I unlock rockets and volley guns? Festus and Norsca are next on my crosshairs after I finish off azhag.I also have another Empire cavalry stack with bruckner who just got recruited.
>>569995214Real life pitched battles would last hours if not days. The difference is that it would mostly consist of maneuvering and skirmishing, but you can't do any of that when the AI charges you directly with no fear of death. So you have to slow the battle down a little.
>>569997798bet thrott is beelining for you
>>569997121commence par me parler poliment par contre
>>569997330Someone should make the Beastman mod, but for Eldars dragging around human slaves
>>569997957PARCE QUE BRETONNIA EN AS MARRE DES GOBLINS
>>569997798Halbediers are absolutely necessary.
I can't wait for Medieval 3 so I can play England and exterminate the populace of every Irosh, Scottish, German and most of all French settlement, then spread superior anglo genes across Europe.
>>569997827The statistic that three quarters of hoplite battles would end in a rout before contact was even made was the standout for me, really belies their reputation as highly disciplined warriors in the Western imagination and their status as the ultimate tanks in the Rome games.
I wish feet were real
>>570000940Who's that one on the left?
>>570002194elsbeth
oh no no no
wtfdo high elf lords just respawn once in a while or what?
>>570002748Aislinn gives them settlements that he conquers.
looks like billie eilish
>>570003243Not as meaty
THE PIIIIIIIIIIIIRATEEEE KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>569989010I'm just pumped for something different without the shitty siege gameplay and 4 player co-op. Also TWW best times were games one and two so it'll ben nice to go back to those times.
>>569995214They break instantly because they're conducting an experiment and one side is being given a signal to break and run, did you not watch the video you're talking about?
soon as I destroy the skaven and give the old world stuff to kislev/bretonnia this run is over
>>569999439>>569997827>>569995214I'm sensing a lot of misinformation about this video. What does it actually say and hypothesize? I've tried watching this with subs a long time ago and I have no idea what they're actually saying
>>569993312Perhaps Boris could be a free dlc that grants no units. A FLC lord if you will.
Is Mechanicus 2 really bad or are people just mad it's not like the first game?
>>569991303Hold up. This mod is actually based.
RATSHITS DAYS ARE NUMBERED
>>569990824>Guy says autoresolving makes game harder>Anon cannot understand English and dares him to try Slaanesh, a faction that suffers extra hard from autoresolving but dominates in manual battlesESL moment
>>569964716Tyrion’s wives…
Can't believe I'm going to have to wait for a fucking mod to put lasguns in TW40K.
>>570008920bothIt made changes for no reason and it became worse
>>570010828but anon, lasguns ALWAYS were Yellow bolts There ALWAYS have been female custodes
how well do swordmasters deal with great weapon chosen
>>569999439And 5% of battles were ever pitched, Total War style matches, but that's all we want to depict ingamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecUAFQH6AzM
>>570011514>lasguns ALWAYS were Yellow boltstrue>There ALWAYS have been female custodeswrong
>>570011908Do you have any paragraphs describing them firing yellow bolts or art depicting such?
>>570010828That mod will take 5 seconds to make. Lascannons already have a laser animation so they can just take that and make it red.
>>570012538yes and I don't get why do you people want to die on this hill so hardjust say that red lasgun beams look better (they do) instead of this copeIn this case GW is objectively correct. DoW was wrong and all other vidya devs who copied them in turn as well, simply repeating their mistake. But Relic's mistake does look better so it would be better if lasguns were retconned into red beams
I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME
>>570013386c'est une bonne baguette
>>570013256But that doesn't show them firing yellow bolts.
>>570013256>In this case GW is objectively correct. DoW was wrong and all other vidya devs who copied them in turn as well, simply repeating their mistake.GW greenlights pretty much every design decision in a video game down to the armor certain units or characters wear.The red lasgun beams were GW's idea or had their consent in the first place 20 years ago all the way up to 2024.
>>570013256>forgetting the rule of cool and making the lasguns lame because autismI seriously hope you guys dont do this
>>570010828Would GW throw a tantrum if CA just made red lasers a setting?
>>570014479GW has total creative control over any warhammer media. CA doesn't get to do red lasguns unless GW just doesn't care enough(unlikely since it seems to be a completely uniform switch in all new media). Look at space marine 2, there's a bunch of mark 7 space marine power armor parts just sitting in the game that you are wearing in the prologue but you don't get to use it after the prologue because you're a primaris at that point and GW doesn't want primaris wearing armor too closely associated with firstborn.Maybe something like a tie in like what's happening in helldivers 2 would have more creative freedom.
>>570013630It literally does. There is no beam. It looks exactly like now mandated look of lasguns. A flash and separate bolts follow.>>570013873Yeah, so what? They allowed noncanon depiction, now they decided to enforce canonical look. They are in the right, this is how all art depicts them, always did.If I was a bit more schizo they did it out of spite. Chuds sperged out over femstodes retcon? Ok, we will make sure to enforce canon religiously now, take that!>>570014320Ask me, they should retcon them into red beams. But it would be a retcon, they are right. Objectively. And they can prove it too. Video games were wrong all along, despite DoW1 incorrect take on lasguns looking better.
>>570015114>It literally does. There is no beam.It actually doesn't depict any yellow bolts, just a muzzle flash.>Yeah, so what? They allowed noncanon depiction, now they decided to enforce canonical lookI've read a few paragraphs describing lasguns and I don't think any of them even state they fire a bolt or anything that isn't a laser.
Red beam lasgun is iconic as fuck and it apalls me that GW decided to start enforcing yellow pea shooters for no reason at all
>>570015538Stop dying on this hill. Why do you do this? You are literally helping their case right now.Simply argue that red beams look better, not deny reality.
>>570014320its actually the opposite of autism, because if it was, it would be a laser instead of a bolt, because lasers move at the speed of light, the light particles will move across the world faster than your eye can track, so you would never be able to see the particles travel as a packet, its the same principle as lightning
>>570016059There is no denial of reality, there aren't any yellow bolts shown in the art you're posting.Consider highlighting them if you think you see any.
I will mod the fucking beta version with red lasguns just to spite GW
>>570010828What is genuinely wrong with the red laser lasguns though? Why does the workshop of games hate them so?
>>570016790Nobody knows They tolerated red lasguns ever since dawn of war 1, then out of the blue they started vetoing all depictions of red lasguns sometime after space marine 2 and rogue trader released
>>570016281Stop it. I can literally flood this thread with IG art and you won't see red beams anywhere. Because it was always an incorrect, third party, noncanon depiction.They look correct nowYes, it does look worseBut it is >>>objectively<<< canoncial takeYeah, they should retcon them into red beams, those look better
>>569977515It would be a start. Seriously, why call it Total War if it seems like you and your friend are just playing some medium points tabletop army game on your kitchen table?
>>570017101dow is canon, dumbass
>>570016790It's just some inexplicable depiction GW has went all in on for whatever reason.Normally you would expect them to enforce an aesthetic trend to better fit their plastic(as many video game models often autistically match the appearance of tabletop models of the time), but the yellow bolts thing has zero relation to the depiction of lasguns on tabletop.It seems to just be a retarded diktat from some suit at GW that thought yellow bolts would sell better or something.
>>570016790if I had to take a bet it's GW flexing
>>570017306stop itrethink your approachyou won't achieve anything this way
>>570017463>>570017469Seems retarded of GW but everything I know about them paints them in an unflattering light.It honestly seems they just survive based off of sheer luck that people want to buy $10 of plastic for $150.
>>570017101What you are highlighting is muzzle flash. Sometimes muzzle flash expands in such a way that there is a gap in parts of the fireball that constitutes the muzzle flash.
Warhammer 40k is a mistake
>>570017615that doesnt make dow not canon, dumbass
the situation wouldn't be so grim if you've had legend's back just once, but no, you've never supported the man
>>570017687>40k TW now means there is a chance for a GFL modHoly shit.
>>570017698There is literally no point in this discussion. Denial of reality only helps GW's case, because you will be proven wrong by someone picking any codex/rulebook and looking at pictures. Argue simply to retcon lasguns into red beams or to allow existence of differently built lasguns.>>570017820it's a third party, licensed fanfiction anon
>>569998598Most of us will be Eastern Rome mains.
>>570017101>>570015114>>570013256>>570011908>>570018418>Because it was always an incorrect, third party, noncanon depictionLasguns firing beams was a first party canon description of lasguns at least six years before dawn of war.Was it red? Maybe not, but it was a beam.
total war thread is NOT gayhammer 40 thousand cocks in your mouth general
>>569995214What this really demonstrates is what we've known from ancient greek manuals and treatises for the entirety of classical humanist study: a phalanx is as strong as its weakest link. If any part of the formation is weak, it crumbles and takes the whole formation with it.>>569999439And where would you even begin to get statistic like that? There's no recordkeeping or census taking in bronze-age Greece. Our only sources that these battles took place at all are histories by contemporary authors and later works referencing them.
>>570018418nope, they were canonized
>>5700185753rd edition art literally depicts how this looks. Muzzle flash and then separate bolts, like it always did>>570019013There is nothing uncommon about 3rd party games being noncanon anon.
>>570019290except dow is canon, retard
>>570019490
>>569997082We're all saying this. It's time to retire /twg/ for a few months. We aren't playing TW anyway.
Top 5 Total War games:5. Troy4. Attila3. Rome 22. Warhammer 21. Warhammer 3
>>570019290>3rd edition art literally depicts how this looksIt does not, as it depicts no beams. Meaning A. The art and the description are contradictory.B. (reconcilist cope)Lasguns produce(d) a long losting muzzle flash that remains visible after the beam has ceased.
>>570017463I think it's obvious they're doing it as a part as their push into multimedia contentI'm not saying they're doing it consciously, but that they have a design document that outlines common setting aesthetics and it just happens to be the current lasgun look
>>570019645that doesnt make dow not canon, retard
>>5700185752nd edition here:>It fires an explosive energy blast with a similar effect to a bullet or small shell
>>570011668Mathanon here. Quite well considering they are slightly cheaper AND dont rely on +AI to deal damage.>Chosen have 25% more hp, 48 MA, 46 MD and 50ws (similar armor and AP fraction so I'll ignore those for simplicity)>Swordmasters have 68 MA, 44 MD (with Martial Mastery up which now works until unit has lost 75% hp so basically always) and 54 WS (with slightly worse AP fraction)As a result Chosen have 39% chance to hit for ~42 damage. Swordmasters have a 57% chance to hit for ~40 damage. So swordmasters deal roughly 50% more damage but have 25% more health to chew through but 25% models so it evens out. Swordmasters should come out on top just barely with 10-15% hp remaining.As a tradeoff, Swordmasters perform significantly worse against Large when they cant leverage their Anti-Infantry bonus. On the other hand they have bronze shields that can be upgraded to block Artillery as well with a Swordmaster.
>>570019883>top 3 total war games:>3. warhammer 3>2. shogun 2>1. medieval 2 - europa barbarorum modthis is the real list, CA robbed us by not remastering medieval 2, I'll never buy a new total war game now, I'll pirate them all
Dechala can block missiles with her swords like General Grievous.
>>569995214It's very questionable whether hoplite formations even crashed shields with each other in the first place, casualities would have been massive if that actually happenedMost likely they were prodding at each other at around spear lenght until one of the formations broke
I just wanted to say thank you to all of the Creative Assembly developers who worked on Total War: Warhammer for the last 10 years.Here's to another 10 years of Total War: Warhammer!
>>570020494And first edition also describes them as laser weapons, presumably firing lasers.>It fires an explosive energy blast with a similar effect to a bullet or small shellThis is vague enough that it wouldn't contradict the weapon firing a beam, but does fit with the more detailed description in third edition of the lasgun's effect on target.>The short duration high energy beam produces such a rapid temperature change on the target's surface that it vapourises in a small explosion
any good "anti ai" mods for tww3? ones that specifically make the AI not know you are the player and just treat you like the other AI. i have my own reasons for wanting this, but i also don't mind AI getting extra money etc. compared to the player.
>>570020626I feel like swordmasters shouldn't be winning that battle but I suppose they are anti-infantrywhat about nurgle great weapon chosen
>>570020114It feels contradictory with a heavier focus on warhammer media when red beams have become the only depiction of lasgun projectiles anyone recognizes in video games and animations due to being the only depiction of lasguns firing in motion for actual decades.
I wonder if there will be any criteria for that beta test or if it's a random drawI have and played vast majority of 40k and TW games, s-surely that's enough?
>>570027127The criteria must not be very good since they let that black anon in.
>>570027127The criteria are based on how big your Youtube/Twitch channel is and how much you suck CA's dick on it.
>>570012538
Yellow lasguns won.Primaris won.Female Custodes won.Chuds lost.
>>570032148>Pale White-Yellow lasguns won.ftfy
>>570032148>*mods all of those out*What now, anglo-jew?
>>570034226I won't be surprised if there are no mods allowed in 40k
>>570037764You can make modding suck, but you can't prevent modding.
>>570038760they can send C&Ds, which will discourage 99% of people from modding
Cheating is no different than piracy. It is the active theft of another worker's labour.
Everybody always thinks about the company executives when they commit theft... they fail to remember the day-to-day employees who are able to live thanks to their salary.Stealing destroys careers.Piracy ends lives.
>>570039072lol
I wouldn't pirate if they gave me what I want but they refuse
>>570031871That's muzzle flash.
Anyone else just stare at the faction select screen and struggle to pick a faction to play, and end up closing the game?
>>570041403I think of a faction that I want to play before I load up the game.
relic is actually giving us what we want, good games remastered instead of new-slop that's gonna be braindead and outsourced to indiansdow1 and coh1 are games actually worth buying and having installed unlike total slop war3 and specially pharaohhopefully dow2 remaster comes soon and puts dow4, which will be a shitty game made by pve-only idiots, to shame
>>570041403I struggle to continue my campaign instead of starting a new one, I don't even get a short victory most of the time
>>570042143Ah, dude. Think about all of the cool units you could recruit. All of the enemy Legendary Lords that you could have an epic battle against.
>>570042527I just wrapped up a greasus campaign and I didn't even recruit any crushers or stonehorns. no ogre pistol maneaters or yhetees either...
legend solved the game with single entities and legendary lords kiting enemies, this game should actually have been sunset long ago because you beat it today the same way you did 8 years ago when they launch, it's the only way to beat the game at the hardest difficulties, it's so sad
>>570041403any time this happens to me I just start a new Archaon campaign
What starting units will Yarrick have?
>>570043702lasgunmanii
>>5700437025 Ork Boyz
>>570043702Guardmanii (gas masks)
>>570032148female custodes are a good thing thoughsets them apart from space marines(the gay man's faction)
>>570019645Based chart, but DoW1 is from that 3.5 era, and thus the most proximal vidya depiction of 40k regardless.Not gonna buy TW 40k unless they scrap everything after 4th ed. Scrubbed raw of the taint of 5th onwards? Take my fucking money, heart, mind, and soul.
>>570037764They confirmed there will be mods for TW40Kand Space Marine 2 is really moddable. It's more moddable than TWW1 and TWW2 were. You can import meshes, animations, make maps etc
i am sick of waitingrelease new DLC or 40k RIGHT NOW
43 hours. Doom approaches. Weep. Hold your Legendary Lords in your arms. Send Grace comforting messages. For the Total War Killer(3rd edition) is imminent.
>>570045291I genuinely hope that game is good
>>569997276>recruitable t0>global recruit 1 turn>should have less attack and damage, but animation / formation shenanigans mean they deal about as much damage as halberdiers anyway>should have less tankiness, but holds the line to the death against huge monsters and elite cavalry when state troops would run away, buying precious seconds for the gunsIt's a strategic mogging. "Strongest Empire man vs weakest Kislevite." Halberdiers don't have expert charge defense, anyway.>>569987264>You're professional fucking militiamen with polearms Are you sure about that? And that they aren't just farmers built like GI Joes, wielding slav-rigged farm equipment?
FOR ONE NIGHT, AND ONE NIGHT ONLYASTRAGOTH IRONHANDVS. TAMURKHAN THE MAGGOT LORDWHO WILL TRIUMPH?!
>>570046087>10 races total(9 right now, 10th after launch and exactly what race will be voted on in their Discord)>20 Legendary Lords >Endless randomly generated opponents to battle>Multiplayer vs and coop being added some time after launch>Magic system>Potential Meta ProgressionIf the AI is as competent or better than WH3 and the game runs well it'll get a cult following, only thing is I don't know if the game will have a workshop.For those wondering, left to right top to bottom races are>Late Medieval Europeans>Greenskins>Vikings>Elves>Undead>Japan>Dwarfs>Lizards>Ancient GreeksObviously all of them have a fantasy bent so for example Vikings get access to Valkyries and other norse mythological stuff etc etcLast race is being voted on sometime after launch, my money is on some sort of Chaos expy with demons and monsters and such.Honestly other than DoW4, LotET and TW40k. This is the only game i'm waiting on. I think playing the battles whilst cutting out the campaign stuff will be a nice change of pace for a while.
>>569998596did they make it so guns can shoot over halberdiers easily, cuz in wh2 which is the last time i played a lot of empire, that was a really bad idea and it was much better to spam empire captains
>>570047309Why do you have an AI style army with so much random stuff you end up with 4 melee infantry, 1 of which is a goblin?
>>570002276elspeth and katarin if they had beautiful hair, which is something that western developers hate with the fury of a thousand suns for some reason
>>570047312Reading their latest community post tells me it's going to be full of those who are filtered by the Total War price point because all after-launch content is free of charge regardless of what it is. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3337380/view/668367347548946887Not so covert shilling done. I just want the game to succeed and hopefully light a fire under CA's ass. I doubt it'll do much though because the game isn't even attempting to compete with CA on the campaign front let alone one-up it.
>>570047309what is that army comp my guyalso who won
Playing as huns in attila. Making tributaries is impossible save for conquering the last province. Historically most of Europe was a tributary.Any small mod for this?
>>570018906yeah this
>>570043039>legend solved the game with single entities and legendary lords kiting enemies>it's the only way to beat the game at the hardest difficultiesnot true! they nerfed the enemy stat and gold bonuses and made the AI dumber, so now you can win even without doing that (lol)
>>570047998Is that a doom diver in their roadmap?? Nobody tell GW.
>>570047884Hair is really resource intensive to model in a realistic art style
>>570048430Damn, I wish it stopped at 99,999.
>>570043702Steel Legion (Cadian)(black)(female)
>>570047998Just joined their discord and look who I see.
>>570050135Who?
>>570050503He's a Total War YouTuber from the Volound school of old games good new games bad
Surely CA will give us more info in the next few days instead of leaving us languishing for weeks/months, right?
>>570050696We might get Lotet news this month but I wouldn't hold your breath for more 40k news or some Med3 stuff.
soo when is that new rome 2 update dropping?
>>570050914my basterds reply right now
Can't decide whether to play Epidemius or Aislinn.
Earlier today Karmelo Anthony was found guilty for the stabbing of Austin Metcalf in Frisco, Texas last year. LL's for this feel?
>>570053353Eltharion
>>570053486lmaoEltharion it is
>>570053353the basketball player?
>>570053782the new york financier
>>570052927asslin is unplayably stupid
>>570054283NTA but what units does his DLC add to other helf factions?
we should never forgive ca for not remastering medieval 2, this decision should've be the end of the company if this community actually cared about good games instead of caring about gayhammer slop and games taht get solved with stupid exploits
>>570054441
LL for this feel?
I play TW and Paradox games for my strategy fix, and it kinda just hit me that I'm not actually excited for updates anymore. Not because I'm not looking forward to changes and new content, but because I know that any update (especially major ones) will inevitably come with several months of severe bugs and other issues. I'm fatigued.
>>570055378Imrik or Malakai
>>570053353i have no idea what you're talking about, but since it's clearly Amercia related:Arkhan the Black.Zhatan the Black.Grom the Paunch.Or any Ogre LL.
>playing elspeth>the empire is basically destroyed by turn 25>vlad has like 12 settlements>karl is in the process of getting eaten by kemmlerby sigmar this is awful
>>570057740>pyrrhic victoryI don't think I can win this manually so at least I have a backup plan
>>570057740this shit happens every timevamps rape every time weird cause someone here said its 50/50but in all my recent runs vamps rapechaos wins too hard imo
>Then Pyrrhus smiled upon him and said: "We shall be much at ease, and we'll drink bumpers, my good man, every day, and we'll gladden one another's hearts with confidential talks."
>>570057954jesus christ look at these trees, it's a like a kid drawn them, is CA using children labour in their games? I'm calling the police
>>570058123is that the goat? europa barbarorum 2?
>>570057954I didn't stand a chance, I wiped the grave guards but the flyers just got on my handgunners instantly. vlad and isabella were full health at the endtime to autoresolve lmao
>>570059185Fighting Vlad is aids. You have no characters that stand a chance in melee so your only chance is handgunners. Except since Vlad is a small character he likes to hide inside your units so your handgunners refuse to fire. Effectively he is invincible.
>Ikit Claw>Isabella/Vlad Carstein>WurrzagThe only three legendary lords you need.
>>570060247These are my 3:>Epidemius>Bhashiva>Boris Ursus
>>570060247SkarbrandTamurkhanZhao Ming
>>570057740Just abandon the campaign. You play the worst faction in the game, you stand no chance.
You guys do realise that challenging scenarios is what leads to a more engaging and enjoyable campaign experience?Don't give up at the first sign of adversity... embrace it and grow!
>>570062689But he's not playing Bretonnia, you must have misread.
>>570062892I'm taking flying rape machines over sissy gunner that piss themselves at the slightest whiff of a hill or forest.
>>570062689there is no "worst faction in the game" if you can't beat this game's braindead AI on VH with any faction you should uninstall
>>570063326And you would be retarded to do so, but it's a free country as they say.
>>570063363A videogame is supposed to be fun. Slogging through an empire campaign is the opposite. The entire roster sucks nigger dicks.>>570062849Complete opposite. Challenge ruins the entire campaign.
>>570063523elspeth empire in particular is easy u have some of the best artillery and gunpowder in the game + teleportation all around the empire with your main stack idk what more you want
>>570063671>gunpowderPass.Give me good factions like Skarbrand or Yuan Bo
>>570063746brainless melee lines are the opposite of fun in this game 0 engagement you may as well autoresolve everything
Put your pass back on faggot, people are actually confused by your dogshit opinions when they don't know who you are.
>>569997082>>570019838Janny. Destroy the entirety of /vt/ and dox all their posters
>>570063936I like scrolling in to watch Skarbrand murder.If you play gunpowder outside of dawi, chorfs or cathay, you are mentally challenged.I play elspeth before. 15 crossbowmen the entire way. Because why in the fuck would you get a unit that can't even shoot over your infantry when u have a unit that can? Are you fucking stupid?
>>570064221Melee is clunky as hell in this game its not satisfying to watch, crossbows are cool but not as cool as rifles, and empire units are some of the most peak aesthethic n cool units in the game, much cooler than chinks or dwarfs, especially elspeth launching mini black holes with her helstorms, if that's not fun to you might be a brain issue....
>>569997082>>570019838Uh oh! I missed your brigading shitposts so I forgot to tell you that the barbed penis is in your oshi's asshole !!!!
>>570064221Elspeth has some of the most fun and OP gunpowder in the game with her amethyst mechanics. If you like watching blowing shit up and easy factions but don't like Elspeth the only reason is that you're the spiritually-chink passfag with anime brainrot.
Is Golgfag's campaign kinda challenging or am I properly retarded
>>570065229Are you having trouble defending your camps or what? Your main stack should be basically unbeatable pretty quickly and you shouldn't have much territory to defend.
>>570065951just struggling to actually complete any of these contracts in time
>>570064612Yes it is. You make a control group for infantry and one for all that's faster. Go moshpit with infantry, go moshpit with fast group. It's the best it's ever been.Anon are you homosexual? The empire wears sissy french dresses and beards. They take Big Beastmen Cock up the ass.
Bloomers, leather pants, dicks hanging out, puffy and frilly nonsense.This is not a military, this is a gay parade.
>>570065131If you like blowing shit up you play ikit claw.
>>570065229anon it's literally the second easiest campaign in the game after Changeling, you might have brain damage
>>570067891I already did
picking up Three Kingdoms again after 50 hours in Warhammer, it's crazy how much morale actually matters in this game. In Warhammer you have to wipe out half of a low tier unit's models before they even think about routing, in 3K militia tier units will drop to shaken from 1 (one) flaming trebuchet shot landing near them
>>570066559loincloths, bikini armor, high heels, showing her tummyThis is what a REAL military looks like, not that gay empireshit
what the fuck is this, ikit?
Passkek malding hard
>>570070450don't give xer any attention
>>570069417Same exact thing happened to me. I'm kinda worried about him coming from the south because clan aground is not at war with them and the elves don't care for rats for some reason
>40k tainted /coopg/>40k tainted /crpgg/>Now 40k will taint /twg/I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
>>570060247MorathiImrikVlad
>>570070761do you have fort soll? he hasn't bothered me yet so far, idk why he declared on me
Its gay and retarded that I have to go to work tomorrow. And the next half year. I should be blowing up Orks with my Baneblade.
Do you guys build up a bit first as Golgfag? Every time I try and take a bigger contract, the enemy just catches up to me and wipes me, and gnoblars and basic ogre bulls aren't cutting it
>>570074440do your starting contract, then kill Festus while building up your main army, then start doing real contracts
>fuck you DRG faggot, it's a vermintide thread now fuck off back to /v/ maybe they care about your game >NO NOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT DARKTIDE REEEEEEEEE>fuck you obsidiot, it's a pathfinder thread now fuck off back to /v/ maybe they care about your game >NO NOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT ROGUE TRADER REEEEEEEEE>fuck you histoids, it's a warhammer thread now fuck off back to /v/ maybe they care about your game >NO NOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT TW40K REEEEEEEEE
>>570069278Exactly
>>570076407Holy fucking truth gigabomb
>>570076407Meds.
>>570076407
>>570074440Not really, no. I just take contracts and do them. The easiest first ofc until my army is decent enough. Just minor faction contracts.Not like you can actively build up your camp. You need resources to do so so you gotta move and kill something.And since u only have one army you kinda have infinite money after a short while.
Horus Heresy Total War when?
>>570076407trvke, 40kchads and histchads will ally and reclaim this general from those that wish to divide and conquer
>>570078167>>570075330thanks ladsI think part of my issue is I lean too hard on autoresolve
>>570079843That's certainly an issue.Just play like the retarded AI. Fuck up small settlements and raid and whatnot till the contract meter is full and never stay in a war after the contract cause it's useless. When the faction stays alive after the contract it's better for u cause they might hire you next and then you to fuck up the other dude too.
>>570078167do you never build a second army as golgfag?
>>570080643No, for what reason? They can't teleport to contracts so they are utterly useless. I build all my camps in the same starting spot only because I have nothing else to do with my resources but that's it.
>>570078692THERE WILL BE NO ALLIANCE
>>570082158A P*ntus player would say such things.
Just lost my Golgfag campaign because Ogres don't like moving around inside Ogre camps I guess
>>570082239Do not quote me, Barbarian Latin. I feel unclean simply in your unwashed presence.
>>570082431>bases his kingdom off of not one but two loser cultures (gayreeks and hersians)>gets betrayed by his own son>loses to fucking POMPEYI cannot think of a more pathetic historical figure.
>>570082379skill issue
>>570082823You will see in the end the error of your ways.Pontus forgives all.
>>570082379Fucking how?I mean.. what?First of all, you get insane garrison for free.2nd, who even attacked you and more importantly 3rd, WHY ARE U AT WAR?Golgfag is not at war ever.. unless he is in a contract ofc but you start in buttfuck nowhere and everyone loves you. Kislev is surely not gonna attack you, nor will the minor factions.I have never once had any faction declare war on me.Did you somehow take a contract against Kislev while they had an army next to your camp?
>>570083902Kislev declaring was is one of the first things that happened to me
>>570084145How did you even manage that?Did you piss em off?They are busy fighting chaos and each other and you have no cities for them to gain so not even border friction so they never have any use for a war on golgfag.
>>570084291I fhought a battle against Ostland, gifted their city to Nordland, and then Kislev declared on meGonna give it another try, It sounds like thats a bit of a freak occurrence
>>570083210I just watched the replay; the AI had tied most of my reinforcing army down at the gates with some flyers and I didn't notice
>>570084351Gifted via diplomacy or as in you took it and they got it cause of the contract? It's been a while since I played golgfag but while you are in a contract isn't he immune to all diplomacy cause when you do something, all your diplomacy actions count for your contract giver.Did you keep war going and then gift em the city?
>>570084589Gifted via the mechanic; 'gift to client' Im gonna go ahead and just give the campaign a quick restart; something tells me it won't happen twice.
>>569969156I will admit, the ogres got a good chuckle out of me.
>heroic victory on a siege defense autoresolve...okay.
>>570085072AZHAG POO POO'D ME
>>570043702General's bodyguard are technically back, he'll have a few Stormtroopers though technically his squad is a mix of a couple of Ogryns, veteran guardsmen and Stormtroopers
>>570085740>skarsnik declared war on me toosomebody post the picture of the cat that works at the over factory
Huh?
how is the greenskins waagh balanced, especially against the AI"lmao here's a free 20 units for each army"
>>570086575go fucking fuck yourself throt
>>570087327As the player Waaghs slow you down, don't replenish quickly and are mostly trash units. Against the player past the mid game most factions have ways of dealing with an extra 15 units of goblins and orc boys. It's only early game where it's really oppressive and you have to hope for ambushes and underway interceptions.
Alright so what gives with this? I started fighting these guys because Cathay gave me a contract to, and then they offer peace and I fail the contract either way, having savescummed and tried both times. Is it because they made peace with Cathay?
>>570087883Ohhh they got confederated
>>570087327Waagh is immersion breaking because I don't ever use free event armies.
okay I see why elspeth's amethyst units are total bullshit300 kills on that grey seer, holy fuck
>>570089674I don't care if /twg/ says they're useless, I love those mortar and gun wagons so much
>>570020932According to the video, hoplites charged in aggressively to get the enemy to rout, after which the opposing force could be run down, as opposed to late medieval battles which would have longer engagements due to technological advances in armor making charges on foot less useful. The interesting thing is that even during routs there would be a clash because it's impossible for the front ranks to flee in time, resulting in mass casualties on both sides.
>>570091409I know what the videos says, what i'm saying is that it is only one of the theories we're working with and we have no definitive evidence of how hoplites battles went because we usually lack the context to fully interpret ancient sources as we lack the cultural context to fill in the unspoken details
>>570088346Get cathay'd
>>570091409Historians used to believe that hoplite battles were literally stage plays where they'd show up, mock fight until 2 guys died, and then went home. Historians also claimed that Romans never wore masks or full face helmets like pictured in battle and they were for parades instead, until they were found at battlefields. Then there's the whole overarm or underarm debate for how hoplites held their spears. Do not trust "reconstructions" of ancient battles from anyone, historian or amateur. The best guess we have for how ancient battles were actually fought are primary sources and even they can be wrong for any number of reasons, on top of being limited in number and often lacking in details that we would consider crucial but they would consider obvious.
>>570016790Cavill told them it wasn't in the lore, and that was all they needed to hear.
Waiting for Neferata.
News about ET content when
>wanted to play a comfy, slow, tall building playthrough>oh the dawi, perfect!>forgot they are the most FOMO, stressful faction to play because of the absolute garbage grudge system>literally forced to play WIDE by the stupidest mechanic imaginable>no mod fixes it rightI will go play Elden Ring convergence mod for the 110th time I guess, thank you CA retarded pieces of shit.
>>570047797>>570048050Tamurkhan won. Even by looking at his stats I could tell Astragoth could not take this guy 1v1. My army comp was, "Oh my, I can afford and have unlocked this now!"I achieved my strategic goal of blunting Tamurkhan's huge army tho.
>>569995214Hoplite-on-hoplite reenactment can never be close to what it was IRL because you can't know how they behaved when life was on the the line as well as how they actually fought.
Better solve this problem early.
>>570095896Dwarfs getting fucked over by their obsession with grudges is genuine lore-accurate gameplay.
>>570096243grim
>>570096123Anon.. we know how Dinosaurs behaved.. you really think we can't figure out how roman soldiers fought?
>Legend will be back to youtube later this yearbasedhe can say he wont do total war but i 100% expect him to weigh in any fuckups and drama ca will inevitably get intoshills and drones on suicidewatch coping and seething and shitting and pissingthe batman of total war will resume his watch
>>570097212He's as much of a retard as you are.He still cling to his idea of "this is a total war channel, it can only have total war, it's a business"..Just abuse your channel, who the fuck cares you absolute fucktard.
>>570095896>Elden Ring convergenceqrd? is it the best conversion mod?
>>570097205yes we don't know how hoplites fought against other hoplites. historians like roel konijnendijk who have looked at every scrap of evidence still can't say for certain
>>570096123Me shooting arrows on the leftmissed all my shots
>>570097524Nonsense, they are humans just like us. We know how humans behave. They just soldiers driven into war against their will, fearing for their lives. It's easy.
>>570097212His chink wife will finally force him to return when they run out of money. He even has a kid now iirc, so he can't be a neet anymoreIt's not like he is able to get a normal job at this point. Being a wage cuck would break himHe was retarded for giving up on free money from playing games from home and for completely inane reasons. Especially since his channel was well paid
>>570097908god you're stupid. you, a dumb pass user, are not smarter or more informed on the subject than those who have spent most of their adult life researching it.
>>570097524>big round shield>long pointy death stick>huuuuh hurr durr me no dont know how they fought wit this!! *drools*Well, obviously, they used the shields for defense and the long stick for stabbing. If you have further questions, ask away.
>>570098090How did you not realize he was retarded when he said we know how dinosaurs behave. We in fact don't know how dinosaurs behaved and that's one of the biggest debates concerning bringing them back.
>>570098090Damn, I already owned you with basic logic so hard u gotta throw a hissy fit?
>>570097908>They just soldiers driven into war against their willRetard. War was cool and everyone wanted to do it before WW1. It wasn't until the weapons got a little too effective and things got out of hands in WW2 after, that war stopped being the cool kids playtime. The simple fact that you dont know this, proves that you've never opened a history book before.
The pass user and his posts have been disastrous for /twg/
>>570098225Historians disagree with you. I actually watched quite a few many years ago.
>>570098205you have to be 18 or older to post here
>>570098225>War was cool and everyone wanted to do it before WW1bullshit
>>570098239Not my fault everyone loves me.
>>570098307Read a few accounts on ancient soldiers and you will realize that ancient humans had a completely different approach to life and death in general. Dying was just part of life, they werent as obsesssed with living forever as we are today.
>>570098467Also all the looting and rape was really fun.
>>570098467Nigga that's complete bullshitIf ancient people didn't fear death no ancient battle would have ended in one side routing
>>570098503Why do you think rape is the number one kink amongst women? They adapted to survive.>>570098528Listen nigga, just because you dont fear death, doesn't mean you necessarily feel like throwing yourself into the jaws of death just for the heck of it. I dont fear the candle infront of me, doesn't mean im going to put my palm over it and burn myself. Retard.
>>570098703need to tongue your strawberryhole
Sisters, what are you doing?
>>570098467Completely incorrect, they had pithy lines about not fearing death as expressed in writers like Plutarch who were explicitly writing moralistic biographies but read other primary sources and graffiti/inscriptions and they were just as torn up about and fearful of death as we are. Read some of the Christian fathers sometime, especially Jerome's letter 60 to a friend grieving about the loss of his son, if you want to see that believe it or not our species had the same psychology 2000 years ago that we do now.
>>570076407Always sloppy seconds huh?
>>570087327Greenskins are one of the weakest factions in the game anon
>>570098761no
>>570095896>This anon gets stressed out playing turn-based game>This anon is "literally forced" to get highest grudge tier every time because if he doesnt get free units and armies he has a nervous meltdownTo think I share a board with such casuals. Hello Kitty general is that way btw -->
>>570087809>>570087327I like the extra unit factions. Seeming them early game is one of the few times the AI feels genuinely dangerous, especially with stat cheats. Although stat cheats are gay.
>>570076407>gives examples of generals ruined by 40kslop>pretends to be le smug chadgrimdark, even
>>570101832sweetie you have autism
>>570102967You might have reading comprehension issues, I'd get that checked out.
>>570096123Cant believe people claim the upward facing spear stance is fake when its clearly more convinient in hoplite war.
>>570095896Unless they changed it a some point your grudge goal is based on how many grudges the factions you share a border with have. Towards the end of the cycle you can strategically raze settlements to create a border and a much more reasonable goal.
>>570098881>christcucksThere's your problem. Stop reading about woke faggots. Read Homer some day. Yes, there is tragedy in war, but also heroism.
>play wulfrik because he was randomly selectedwow this seafang mechanic is actually kinda neat i can go anywhere i want, let me just secure a little bit of norsca>get tied into norsca wars for 40 turnsok well at least i can use the seafang now, lets go fight the empire >raze 3 cities>orc horde suddenly walks into norsca and starts multiplying, forcing me to return again>12 turns laterOk now I can finally use the mechanic for rea->empire has travelled through multiple factions to attack norsca >they're about to reach my shores>can't pursue them because I'll piss off the factions they're travelling through by trespassing So much for raiding the world
>>570104581Make a homefront army idiot
>>570104231Even the pagan Greeks were writing on the tragedy of war with plays like the Trojan Women and satirizing how stupid some wars could be with Lysistrata. The Romans could equally get into a self-reflective mindset about war, such as in Tacitus' Agricola with his famous "ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant." Read the corpus instead of spouting dumb shit nigga, everything we think about war, from admiration to disgust, the Greeks and Romans thought too. They were human just like us, they weren't an alien species.
>>570104951>greeks>humanCome on now...
>christcuckslmao
>>570105180>pagan Greeks don't count>Christian Romans don't count>uh let me ignore that you quoted a pagan Roman tooI don't have any Carthaginian or Parthian sources handy, would they count? Or there's the classic from Vergil himself: bella, horrida bella et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno (I see wars, horrid wars, and the Tiber spewing with much blood).
>>570104951Tacitus quote isn't about war. He praised Germans who just did raiding and pillaging all day and he denegrated Gauls for growing soft from peace.You are utterly delusional if you think majority of current populance is anything like people back then.
>>570105267Real romans decided that Christian virtues were better, who are you to talk?
>>570105267*never read a book in my life voice* The problem with historical Christians is that they were too merciful and forgiving
The past is viewed through the lens of what was recorded.
>>570105654Romans were gays.
Anon's got me kinda hype for it even tho I should be binging Gothic rn..I'mma play some easy mode faggot
>>570105617It is literally about war. The context is the Caledonian Calgacus giving a speech to his troops about defending their homeland from the Romans. "Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium, atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant: To rob, to massacre, to seize, (they call) by the false names empire and, where they make desolation, they call it peace." Read what they actually wrote instead of getting your opinion from some dude with a marble statue profile picture online. They had interesting opinions about all sorts of subject matters in the same way we do. Calgacus' whole speech might blow your mind in terms of how self-aware Tacitcus was about his own civilization and the understanding he could give to his enemies.
>>570105950>Gothic + really in the mood for a Golgfag campaign.Are you me?Or rather, you'd be me if I didn't also have to study hard.
>>570105654Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men.
>>570106147I am only 1 focus stone away from finishing the quest but I've been binging that shit for the past 4 days or so. I want a bit of different vidya rn.
>>570105982Some Indian guy with a marble statue avatar is 100 times closer to Tacitus than a redditor like you ever will be.You are just projecting your feelings on the text. You are incapable of seeing war anything but "le" bad" and tragedy as something to be eradicated.
>>570105654Actual ethnic Romans were the last to people to convert.
>>570106503>expecting a christcuck to argue in good faith
>>570106398I accept your concession, brownoid. I don't have to read anything into the text because unlike you, I know Latin and can read the Agricola as Tacitus originally intended it. I translated all of book six of the Aeneid myself. You watch YouTube videos from people reading translations and think you know anything at all. The Romans were people who had a wide range of opinions on every subject matter and even when thinking one way could understand perspectives. Ironically you cannot understand that and immediately jumped to me talking about war as just le bad.
>>570103467There's nothing wrong with taking your time building up as Dwarves. If you get stressed out + FOMO due to not getting free unit handouts, you might be genuinely autistic.
>>570106649>ackshually latin is untranstable like Quran you have you read it original!Go suck off more refugees, you catholic faggot.So you are arguing that Romans had more than one opinion, great job you absolute buffoon.
>>570107061Yes, this entire thing started with me mentioning that unlike the claim that all Romans loved war and weren't afraid of death, many Romans in fact were afraid of dying in war like any other time in history. I'm also not Catholic and didn't learn Latin for any religious reasons, I did it because I like ancient Rome. It's generally considered good to understand the language of the people you're trying to argue you understand the culture of, isn't it Ranjeet?
>>570098225>War was cool and everyone wanted to do it before WW1. It wasn't until the weapons got a little too effective and things got out of hands in WW2 after, that war stopped being the cool kids playtime.>Mom in the 1800's getting annoyed with you and your brothers hitting each other with sticks so she asks why don't you enlist in the military? You cheer with glee as you go off to sleep short hours, get shot at, suffer horrible diseases, and return with half an arm.>Mom asks how was it?>FUCKING COOL MOM I WANNA GO AGAIN!
>>570106649Holy loser...
>>570098225Maybe the most retarded poster here, and this thread is full of 40kids so that's saying a lot.
>>570107453You mean sanctus defectus anon.
The retardism I have started here is glorious.
>>570107587Yeah, dude, kill yourself you absolute human waste dude.. You are worth less than an indian eating cow dung. Didn't even think this was possible.
My cheeks hurt from laughing.. I gotta get back to my golfFAG campaign..
>>570107660You're an anime spamming passfaggot who routinely shits up the thread with innuendo about being a faggot and are likely brown on top of that. I do not care about your opinion.
>>570107271Yet you clearly demonstrated that you don't understand. You even quoted your own translation and it's not there. As if your pathetic hobbist attempts are superior to leading scholars and translators. I didn't say Romans weren't afraid of death and arguing against that exposes the kind of cretin you are. The guy who said that was clearly being hyperbolic.
>>570107368Terminally online faggots don't know anything about reality, shocker.
>>570107769
Newbie here, is there a trick to chasing routing units (besides dogs because I dont have those as Empire)?>My Empire Captain routs enemy lord, manages to get one hit during the ~minute and a half it takes for enemy Lord to make it off the map>Enemy Empire Captain routs my mage (faster than their routed lord in previous part), finishes it off in 6-7 blows, all landing one after anotherAll guys were mounted on horses in both cases.
>>570107874chasing routing units is only ever an option when your outmatch their army 10-1. Otherwise you just keep fighting. There is no strategy to that. You kill, that's all.
>>570106398>You are incapable of seeing war anything but "le" bad" and tragedy as something to be eradicated.These opinions are always given by the most weak men imaginable. Men who are so disconnected with reality and people that they become straight up psychopaths. It used to be out of touch generals or politicians, but now it's out of touch idiots behind a screen
>>570107964Thanks for the tip. But how did the AI manage to nuke my routing mage? Is there a trick to it I can use or does AI just blatantly cheat in field battles?
>>570107368Yet that's basically what Junger describes about french kids in Storm of Steel.
>>570107874>>570108023The AI can issue a billion orders a second which is why they have perfect micro. That said, the game has had problems in general with attacking routing units for a long, long time.
>>570108023>can they cheatWell.. no.. but kinda.. When you send a lord to chase another, and both are mounted, your tends to run into him without attacking for ages. The AI just gives a trillion commands per second and immediately seed when that attack order failed so it gives him a retreat order and instant re-attack order 5 trillion times so he can actually land his attacks. It's simply impossible for humans..Even legend with all his abuse of mechanics was never able to do that.
>>570108017Have you ever experienced war? Because I have as a kid on the losing side.
>>570107803>You even quoted your own translation and it's not thereWtf are you actually on about. Every bit of Latin I translated is in the original text. Hit up Perseus or any other site with the original Latin. My translations are also about as literal as you can get. Try reading this whole section, it's great and far more interesting than the dogshit you type.
>>570108091Interesting. I'll do some research on this. Maybe using an autoclicker to issue attack command each frame allows me to imitate AI's ability to damage routing unit.
>>570108242Any nigger who landed last week in Europe speaks 6 languages, nobody's impressed.
>>570108403Yeah, you would know.
>>570108403Retarded postt.Eurofag
>>570108242https://litter.catbox.moe/naibf9desti2j57w.mp4
wait ogres can't climb walls to activate towers? lol
>>570108715Do you know what "as a kid" means, retard?
Can pseudo historians, faggots who know nothing about war, larpagans and zoomer tradcaths please shut the fuck up and talk about total war the video game?
>>570066078>>570066559it's called style nigga, Empire is the most stylish and aesthethic faction, they have the coolest units with stuff like steam tanks
>>570108731Too big for stairsDuh
>>570108852What's there to talk about? you kids just want to play with toy games like warhammer.
>/twg/ is on topic>slow as fuck>coomer posting, /pol/ talk, larpers sperging, >/twg/ goes turbo speedI hate you faggots so much, you have dedicated boards for this where these exact topics are argued daily, yet you need to shit up this place.
>>570108990Don't forget e-celeb dramaSubhumans here love gossiping about their digital replacement father figures.
>>570098307The romans lost most of their military multiple times in disastrous battles against a nation across the ocean just to raise armies and try again until they win.The united states loses a tiny fraction of their military and then the entirety of the public turns against them and they immediately give up.
>>570108990Anon this site is full of anti-social losers with no lives who get their identity and personality from fringe politics/religious larps they got from online echo chambers.No sane person is going to listen to their verbal diarrhea irl. And no sane person wants to be around them irl. And no sane site is gonna tolerate their idiocy online.So this is the one of the only places where they can interact with people. And the only way they know how is about sperging about their ideology since it's the only personality they have.
>>570108990Jannies allowed faggot rat porn and allow the passnigger to avatarfag, this is also on-topic then
>>570109318>you see this other subhuman bullshit reduces the quality of the thread and stays up, so I'll further reduce the quality of the thread with my offtopic subhuman bullshitkill yourself
history game posting will inevitably devolve to /pol/ because its about real life stuffunfortunately
>>570109318>faggot rat pornNever happened.
maybe make 10 more posts about how everyone here is a loser except for you fags posting one liners about your video game adventures while nobody responds.
>>570108838I... don't apparently I am sincerely sorry sir
>>570109453Yes. Maybe if you also shit up the thread with your complaining about being off-topic we'll magically flip back to on-topic.
any mods that use m2ex yet?
>>570043702As his high tier unit probably his Fortress of Arrogance (maybe this will be an IG RoR instead?)
Chritcucks tick tockThe day of the rope is approaching.The true European pagan faiths are rapidly returning and it's sons and daughters thirst for revenge and your blood as the Aryan casts off his Abrahamic shackles.Spiritual Semites have 20 years at best before you are all put to the sword by pagan hands.
>>570084291Nta but as a guy who plays Katarin a lot, yeah golfing is not a fan of kislev. If you smack his shit in a few times he's less motivated, but he will attack you if you let him
>>570110489>European pagan faiths are rapidly returning>it's real in my headyou fags are the most religitarded of all the religitards
>>570110489got btfo'd by the latin guy so hard you're just shitposting into the air to drive the thread off-topic huh?
>>570110629The aids ridden troon supporting and brownoid fellating gaytheists will hang alongside the spiritual Smeites they defend.>>570110712Semitic fable followers know nothing of Aryan history. Enjoy your slave cattle life while you can chritcuck your end is near.
Don't reply to the schizo, just report and ignore
>>570111096>pagansimagine your whole belief system being based on what some christian monk wrote about your "faith" 5 centuries after your extinction, that's nu-paganism, in other words your enemies which broke you and destroyed you wrote some shit about you and now everything you know about your "faith" is from their writings, genuinely the most pathetic and tragic cuck "faith" on earth there is nothing to win for the people you're cheering on already lost and you know nothing about them, dumbass buckie, not a real religion by any stretch of the imgination, worse than atheists
I'm loving this thread.
>>570111494Of course you do passtroonYou love reducing the quality of this place
>>570111139weakling response
>>570111557I might have gotten the schizos rilled up but I can't be held responsible for what they unleash. I just watch and enjoy.
>>570111557>>570111625wtf does passtroon even meanare u saying this anon is trans and passes? I highly doubt that because playing strategy games elevates your testosterone
>>570111676I like eating MEAT
which factions are you looking forward to in Medieval 3?I want to see the Byzantines, I think they have interesting armiescoolest army in Med2 crusades, flamethrowers were fun
>>570111821>Medieval 3I'm not buying that filth. Give me Warhammer or give me death.
>>570107874I can think of a few things1. There's a mod that fixes this by putting a light health drain on routing units that are also engaged in melee2. You don't necessarily need dogs, you just need fast moving damage. Cav works just fine and artillery will work too if you're smart about it. Are dogs better sure, but you don't need them.3. Prioritize important targets. >Speed and Distance from the map edge (who can we actually catch? Slower units can be hunted down later)>Health of the routing unit (a weakened unit isn't much of a threat so we can let them live)>Who does your army have a hard time with?(If it's large monsters or cav we should go for them first)>4. Never kill the general after the battle is over. Weaken him up and get him to low health, but let him live. If he comes back you can get an easy gen snipe next fight "Sweeping " is all about changing the odds for the next battle so the idea is to only give them the units you want to fight
KILL THEMMM I'm scared of ogre artillerysays its tier 5
>>570111821I hate the byzantines, my favorite faction is Grand Dutchy of Lithuania whcih was heavily undercooked in M2 because CA is run by Byzantines.
>>570105267neet-she has irreparably ruined western philosophy by letting people think "christianity = slave pagan = master" has any basis in reality
>>570111821Poland since I'm a Poleboo, I will bathe in the blood of Germans, Russians & Arabs
>>570111989You could just walk your Lord in circles until it's empty like a sane person..But even if u don't.. Why the fuck are you sending your zeps to attack? Their attack order is stationary bombardment.. and you send them through missile units.. what the fuck are you doing? They have cannons..
>>570111821Looking forward to playing as the Roman Empire.
I love Cathay and I disavow the actions of this >>570111878 faggotI want Medieval 3 and I want it to be good :)
>>570112197NOT A REAL MEOWFANNOT A REAL CATHAYAN
>>570112165the gyros did no dmg to emzepelins with the harpoon attack 2hit em thoughgotta be one of my fav projectile abilities in the game
>>570111878Call of warhammer mod on M3.
>>570109509Calm down with the history rewriting, ratnigger. I remember when you people used to spam that on the daily.
>>570112180BASED
the hell are these thingsmutant ogres?
>>570112272Zeps have cannons and grenade throwers.. I believe they have the range of regular cannons which is 380?.. If you give an attack order and then a move order, they will keep attacking the target.. since they have fire whilst shooting... as long as range and angle remains.. Your picture shows the zeps rushing in..Just give attack order and 1cm move order.. they should then shoot cannons at that target without going in to bomb.
>>570112253>NOT A REAL MEOWFAN>NOT A REAL CATHAYANeverybody knows you're not passoid, you're just an annoying shitposterMiao would vore you if she could, you unfilial barbarian
*fire whilst movingI'm drunk
>>570107874>>570111942Oh another cool thing: depending on where you put the pressure (putting a cav unit in front of them), you can sometimes get the routing unit to change their course and spend more time on the battlefield so you can widdle them down more. If the unit is absolutely shattered every model in it will just scatter
>>570112056Machiavelli (who failed at every political endeavor he attempted btw) started it in the Discourses.
>>570112456Shut up you dumb whore.
>>570112325>the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II of Hohenstaufen received a magical ring from the mysterious ‘Presbyter John’ that allowed him to become invisible and invulnerable. The incident of the monarch’s ‘disappearance’ using the invisibility ring during a hunt was recounted by the poet Oswald von Wolkenstein. The legend is retold, in turn, by Bruno Gloger in the book Emperor, God, and Devil: Frederick II Hohenstaufen in History and Legend.
>>570112456Wait, fuck u mean with>not passoidI am wearing my 22 pass right now.. Or is this some joke I'm not understanding?
>>570112325the original unironic version of this meme always makes me laugh, the cope dripping off of "ruled by people who came to see themselves as roman" and "spoke greek, the only civilized language alongside latin" is priceless
>>570112389IIRC gorgers are deformed ogre babies that are left to die but didn't because ogres are tough as fuck to kill. Without a clan to grow up with and teach them how to not let their hunger get the best of them, they turn all fucked up and violent.
>>570112456>Miao would vore youGod I wish
>>570112543HRE bros...
>>570112886
>40k is already gone from the general againLameWhen will I be able to funpost with my fellow 40k chuds again? CA gave us no dates this time
I'm getting seriously sick of this campaign but these are the last rat strongholdsnot stopping until at least they're gonei really should be putting end times further, imo happening at like 110-120 turns is too soon, u can change that right
>>570113728Change it to 40T
>>570114189more like 150 ishtho this campaign gave me vermintide when rats ALREADY controlled 100+ settlements
>>570112704byzantine fans can be very sensitive and easily offended so it is incumbent on all of us to offend them as much as possible
holy shit, the empire might be revivedplease just take the settlement I sacked for you and don't b line for my army or some shit instead please just take the settlement so I can groom you into a proper kingdom
Any female TW streamers with footcam?
>>570114431
Post classic /twg/ images.
News from/our/ guy Legend, the undisputed protagonist of /twg/>He will return with a new channel, hinted to be political-focused>Hes now a full time dad, gardening relaxed vidya as his main hobby>He will NOT return to play 40k, and kindly asked anyone talking about this topic to him to fuck offhttps://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxJr7EyL2ruT6HH834rGwo91KNzFE44gSh
>>570112456Miao Ying is just Kroq-Gar made into a chick and made lame and gay. With approval to the Chinese sensitivity team of course
>>570109318>shitposter fag making shit up to make himself look betterclassic
>>570115325Anyone wanna run bets for when he'll come back? Nagash dlc? Thanquol? When TWW gets future'd?
>>570115325Faggot should have taken a sabbatical instead of blowing up
I love when anons get proven wrong with the very next post.
>>570115325>hinted to be political-focusedpuked in my mouth a lil bit
>>570115590He will never stream vidya again. Repeated it infinte times
>>570115762Yeah but it's Legend of Total War. He's so full of shit, he'll end up like Total Biscuit and Cimooo
>>570115325>realised Paradox are just as retarded as CA, new channel won't be about those gameslol
Any thoughts or opinions?
>>570115325>hinted to be political-focusedoh boy here we go
>>570115968Ogres are lame. I hope they receive no more dlc
>>570116242Why?
>>570116242Ogres are fun. I hope they receive more dlc focused on their beasts.
>>570116367A army of one-meme fat guys is not interesting
god i hate when this happens
>>570115325>political focusedSo what sort of hot and very insightful commentary should we expect him to have?
>>570116580Give it back you fucking ligger !!
>>570114431HOLY SHIT HE'S BACKgonna try some settlement feeding
>>570115762lol OK, good luck trying to completely pivot the content of your channel and just hope your audience will follow
>>570116727Short Fat Otaku but less pozzed on foids in return for being more pozzed on economics.
Ways to increase campaign movement:Using certain stances like Taurox's Juggernaut stanceMobility heroTraits such as marching, staying in the sea or conquering distant settlementsStarting in a province with perfect Harmony (Cathay)Defeating armies and gaining more campaign movement (common for Khorne)Getting Route MarcherJust playing as Arbaal or Skulltaker and directly teleporting on top of your enemy
>>570116727Just low iq centrist takes mixed with some slopulist consoiracy theories about AI and elites (you will own nothing and be happy etc.)
>>570115216
ew those are the ugliest abs ive ever seen on a woman
Legendofgardening here
>>570117925People here no longer remember Tom Parker vs /ourguy/ Jaco Herbst rivalry...I do wonder if I'm the only one left anymore
>>570118171>wtf this targaryen late game crisis where the dumb bitch comes in with three dragons and torches everything is bullshit
>>570115325I don't care what that political bullshit faggot spouts and what vidya he plays as long as it doesn't get posted here
>>570115325>He will NOT return to play 40kyes, he will
Ayylium Isolation 2 will mog 40k.
>>570118594kek
>>570118252Yeah
>>570118729xdd
got so pissed I alt f4d, after everything I've done for kataringonna continue the campaign tomorrow
>>570115325So he will just be a grifter like asmongold but poorer and australian?
>>570119075Kislev will never forgive you for breaking that alliance, and everyone else will know of your low reliability.
>>570118729
>>570119305I'm too big to care about reliabilitybut they refuse to join me against vamps where I'd feed them most of the landungrateful FUCK bitch
>>570119427Good. Simps deserve to get shat on.
>>570115325You made the political bit up, but it's hilarious that he dropped his Paradox channel idea, after having called EU5 his future, now that the game has become a complete disaster.
>>570119598The hilarious thing is him picking fucking paracucks as his next big thing. How retarded that was.
>>570115325So he will grift politically now?Why can't this faggot leave with the little dignity he has left? He already had several embarrassing melties and crashouts. Why can't he just peace out, why is he hell bent on humiliating himself more?What's the reasoning seriously?
>>570119801Uhh, he wants viewership money sweetie
I am going to start my own Total War channel so I can get early access and leak it to /twg/.
>>570119762Funniest bit was that he said he mainly dropped TW because of the community. As if Paracucks would've welcomed him with open arms.
>>570119996kinda kekain't nobody wanna watch spreadsheets
>>570119996Maybe paracucks shilltubers enjoy being fellated more than total war ones and he wanted some of that. Dunno since I don't watch neither.
>>570119801Despite what he says, he needs shekels
>>570119801>So he will grift politically now?That was (You) bait. He doesn't actually hint at that. He just says he'll return at some point in the future. That said, he's DEFINITELY coming back because of the money. He now has two kids to support and I don't think his wife works.
>>570120545His wife is probably on his ear aswell, specially if she is chinese, they dont like bum husbands
>>570119427Remember, the AI's primary goal, even for 'friendly' factions, is to fuck over the player specifically.
>>570120864my favorite endgame state was this I was the stewart of all order as empire and somehow they all survived and thrivedthese days the world-state is always a clusterfuck in the campaigns I've played since returning to TW... oh well
He has to come back, he probably have some decent savings and his channel probably still generates some revenue, but raising kids is expensive as fuck, and his wife is a chinese who was only at it for the money and dont work
>>570073294Yea. He seems to just be in the spanish peninsula too, bothering the french. AI tunnelvision is a thing tho, so I am a little bit afraid of him just underwaying through athel loren, the dwarves and razing my settlements since that region is empty of my troops due to the war with norscans
>>570119420literally whonot a steam chart
I keep trying gorbad can't really can't bring myself to enjoy him, even though his gimmick of all-rounder appeals to me
>>570121863all rounder is the gayest gimmick ever
>>570115325HOLY FUARK HES RETURNED, /twg/ MIGHT FINALLY IMPROVE https://youtu.be/4Nz3DL6EXtQ
>>570120841She gave him 2 kids, I think she works just fine.
>>570116727>lotw incites a rebellion in random african countries and uses cheese tactics to have no casualties for rebelsOH N-
>>569970021Also, killer of range units since they don't fire when positioned on there.
>>570116971He HAS said that he loves Japan before so...
>>570114348But the ERE is infinitely more Roman than any of the barbarian provinces that inherited pig-latin, let's be real, this is just a cope for people who are mad that the ERE finally got recognized for actually being the continuation of the Roman Empire.
I think ikit's AI broke and I'm really happy about that
>>570115325just get a real job at this point bro, you had a better run than most as a youtuber.
>>570124138No one but Byzaboos think the ERE is a continuation of anything. Belisarius is still called the Last Roman because everyone knows it's just Greek nonsense from then on.
>>570124138They were greek, all their european contemporaries considered them greeks, the only people humoring their larp were themselves and the muslims that didn't even know where rome was.The current wave of revisionism is just trying to apply modern identity politics to medieval states.
>>570124658>the only people humoring their larp were themselves and the muslimsso anyone that wasn't mudhut barbarian?
LegendofTotalWeeds
>>570124775The mudhut barbarians are what the Byzantines kept crying to when they kept getting their shit kicked in by Muslims.
>>570124590>>570124658I know this is coming from a place of pain but you need to stop lashing out
Finland
eastern rome was kinda lame ngl, what did they even do between 500-1400? nobody knowseveryone only knows justinian genuinely no idea what they did for 9 centuries
>>570124138>loses to fucking venice
>>570125398fallo ancora, daddy dandolo!
>>570124775The same mudhut barbarians that sacked constantinople
>>570125819Yea that's what barbs do, sack and pillage shit
Is there a mod or setting to increase hidden location frequency or weights? I'm tired of getting one shitty location on turn 20 like the chaos portal, wasting my money removing it, then never seeing anything the rest of the campaign.If there's also a mod that adds more dilemmas or makes them more frequent that'd be cool, I liked that chorfs and cathay had a huge selection of them because of their caravans.
>>570125959greeks have high skill floor but low skill ceiling, they are way too low IQ to usher in something like the industrial revoultion, world would still be medieval if civilization wasn't passed to the Anglo after they got turk-raped
>>570125959PAY YOUR FUCKING DEBTS
News when?
chink bonus stream with gameplay
>>570126084More Frequent Unusual Locations changes the chance to anywhere between zero and 25x and also lets you trigger locations again in cities where you demolished one, which can't happen in vanilla.
>>570127927as usual chinkGODS carry the torch from the decadent decayed westerner
>>570128143Decay this dick, eh?
they increased max traits to 80 from 33no wonder the game runs like shit in the late game nowgood job ikit faggots, is there something they wont ruin to satisfy your reddit brain?
>>570125385They basically fought Muslims for this period.They kept Muslims out of Europe until other Europeans betrayed them. >sacked Constantinople causing it be financially destitute >could no longer effectively fight >Europeans sell the Turks canons to take the walls down. >Turks eventually invade Europe A completely self inflicted wound. Of course modern history glosses over all this because it’s a time when European political intrigue totally backfired.
they even have a warning in their own files(IN GAME) Maximum number of traits a character/region may hold at any time. Negative values imply infinity. /!\ WARNING /!\ Increasing this may have a dramatic increase in memory usage in very late game campaignsNOOOOOOOO BUT POWERCREEP FAGGOTS WANT TO HAVE ALL TRAITS
>>570127927link
>>570128687removing that cap is fucking stupid, literal cheat
>>570127927wtf
>40 units were literally cheatTW purist be like
>>570125819
>>570128658>>Europeans sell the Turks canons to take the walls down.cant tell if this is European butthurt or American education
>>570129343>Frogs sack Constantinople>This is for TroyBased>Muslim colonises Paris>This is for MuhammadAIEEEEEEE HECTOR SAVE MEEEEEE
Is autismolida even good? I she kinda suck at killing lord. The only reason I got her is for the range buffs
LUTHOR HARKON
>>570129802fuck no, all tomb kings are doggy poo
>>570129698>*White people do thing*>"WHAT ABOUT BROWNOIDS!??"
>>570129802Genuinely one of the worst LLs in the game in one of the worst races in the game.
>>570130948True, I would play Isabella now. Khalida cant even finish a half-dead Ungrim when this fucker had around 15% hp
>>570125398Fallo ancora, daddy dandolo!
>>570128658The Turks conquered slavs that no one cared about and were pushed back and humiliated when they encountered actual European states that could defend themselves. Western European states also trolls the Turks and sent them on a death spiral by discovering a way to east Asia without going through them.
Thunderers or Thunderers (Grudge-rakers), are the latter really better considering the shit range?
>>570132298Yes but not by much. It's like 3x the firepower for half the range. They get way better when you get research bonuses tho.If you are shit at gunline LoS positioning then they are strictly better since the one volley they do get off wrecks.I personally mix them even lategame for budget reasons.
>>570131991listening to this manchild pop-history is so tiresome
>>570132298Shotguns are better into factions with limited range (greenskins, chaosmanii). If you are fighting rats or elgi it's better to stick with regular guns
>>570132681>serbian despotate
>>570132590I saw that. Your shame is eternal now. Unless you take the slayer oath
>>570132816its the same thing, it just looks more aura when you show they received a lot of including direct military support from "real european powers" truth is ottoman military was the best in the world during the 15th century, first ones to field a professional army and gunpowder in europe etc miles ahead of anything else at the time and I hate turks, that's just the reality of their early rise
>>570128658The Turks only conquered subhuman balkanoids. Western Europe (the only Europe that matter) had no relevant risksAnd besides, 1204 was a payback for the Gothic War and the fall of Jerusalem (byzos supported Saladin)
>>570125398the fourth crusade was entirely justified retaliation for the 1182 massacre of the latins
>>570132681>>570132590>can't read>posts slavshit to disprove me saying slavs folded easily>so mad he can't screenshot correctlyBehold, ESL armchair historian.
Did I click on the Paradox Games thread by mistake?
>>570133112western europe is nothing if the turks won at vienna (as they would have without Poland's help) all of Europe would be Turk because it was the last true fortication before a land of endless rape and pillage of western european softies, western europe only ever did anything in history because eastern europe ate endless invasions while west had free reign to do whatever and they still were retarded and it still took them centuries to do anything, worst part of europe, gay and soulless
>>570132681>Hungary>Croatia>Poland>fucking Wallachia
>>5701332781) that's not the 15th century2) they were losing most of those wars and barely hanging on all until the 17th century
>>570133112Vienna was vulnerable till 1683. Who knows where they could have gone from there?
>>570133038This general peaked here
>OttomemesХaхaхa, нy пoпыткa зacчитaнa :D
>>5701335561. The Ottomans were busy conquering slavshits and other Muslims until later on and then were stopped after attempting to push further.2. They won, nigger, what is this "the English were winning the Hundred Years War at one point" tier argument. They signaled the death knell of the Ottomans while western Europe remained safe. You must be a slavnigger coping hard. The meme inbred Hapsburgs absolutely humiliated the Turks, kept them out of western Europe, and even pushed back into the Balkans.
>>570111821I just want Medieval II remastered.
>>570134001>during their collapse erawow gj dumbass, im talking about the early ottomans>>570134016>they were stoppedonly after the first siege of vienna before which they had literally a free-sweep to take whatever land they wanted almost uncontested >they won you say that as if you didn't post a 3 century time period and presented it as if it was one conflict which is retardedI already explained why they "won" and even then it was barely since they were massively outgunned even at vienna underestimating the ottomans is only born from pop-history knowledge from youtube shorts and instagram reels and aura edits, anyone's that actually read up on late medieval history knows how scary the ottomans were in their prime
>>570134016>1. The Ottomans were busy conquering slavshits and other Muslims until later on and then were stopped after attempting to push further.westoid coping mechanisms are truly fascinating.>Their 400 years of victories in Europe doesnt count only their loses count!>nevermind the fact that they werent even in the Anatolia 300 years prior.
>>570134347>only after the first siege of vienna before which they had literally a free-sweep to take whatever land they wanted almost uncontestedYeah, and then they couldn't anymore. Because they lost.>you say that as if you didn't post a 3 century time period and presented it as if it was one conflict which is retardedIt was a series of campaigns that completely arrested the attempted conquest of western Europe by the Ottomans. So, as I said, they were pushed back by actual European states that weren't slavtier. Repeating pop history over and over means nothing. >>570134637You lost Mehmed.
>>570134347>>during their collapse erathe collapse era of the 1560slmao what a cope
>>570134747>repeating pop history>n-no youhow patheticif you read the wikipedia page you screenshotted you'd learn that the habsburgs were on the back foot for 70% of those "campaigns" and that only changed in the late 17th century
>>570135036The French were on the backfoot during the Hundred Years War for decent chunks of time. The Romans were on the backfoot for most of the Second Punic War. No one would take your stupid ass argument seriously in any other context and I'm not doing it here.
>>570135208Just admit that you're a butthurt slavoid.
>>570134747But i won the grand prize of living in westoid heads rent free.
>>570135208holy shit just how retarded are you you troglodyte? I'm saying that underestimating and dimissing the ottomans' whole history because they ultimately lost is retarded while the fact is in the first few centuries post constantinople they were the strongest military ever until then by any metric and a genuinely feared force then you just repeat the same shit, go back to history reels on tiktok
None of that affects any of you personally. Your ancestors were all irrelevant nobodies picking wheat just like you would have been had you been alive back then.
>>570135391You might genuinely be retarded.>>570135419And they couldn't get past the Balkan slavoid states, that's all I said in my original post and it's an objective fact nigger.
>>570135672They got through Balkans thougheverbeit. They got to Austria proper and Poland.
>>570135672>And they couldn't get past the Balkan slavoid statesnormally i would say you are baiting but i have seen other genuinely delusional westoids like you before. Maybe pick up an actual history book before spewing retarded shit like this.
>>570135603even my grandparents were poor farmers
>>570135672yeah besides eventually conquering all of hungary and half of austria lol, after BARELY being beaten by the habsburgs which were 5x stronger than any of the other states in europe at the time west or otherwise, or would they be stopped by the hundreds of bickering german states in the "HRE" if they got past vienna? lol, meanwhile they were allied to france so they would probably have carved up europe together had they won in vienna, thank Poland for your existence
>>570125515the east has fallen...
>>570135603My grandparents were pretty high up in the local commie govt. and both them and my parents actually gained even more when the commies got "abolished".
>>570135960I really meant further past, as in they took them and then were stuck.>>570135997>>570136125Let me put this in a way your retarded-tier IQs can understand. The Romans spent years trying to conquer the Parthians and then Sassanids. They had potentially the largest army on Earth at the time (maybe only behind the Han) and even captured Ctesiphon under Trajan. Despite this, no one would claim they were not objectively arrested from eastern expansion by the Parthians and then Sassanids. They were. I get that you're a retarded turk and slav trying to defend your ethnic pride, but this should not be difficult to understand.
>>570129802>>570131850Are those domination builds or did you just choose the most schizo way to show your campaign armies?
you guys are fucking delusional if you think the Byzantroons will be any gooddevs are Bulgarian, they'll make sure the byzantines are a trash faction and the Second Bulgarian Empire takes its rightful place as master of the Orthodox East every time
>>570136449all I said is that the ottomans were an insanely efficient and powerful force in their golden age of the 15th-16th century (even though they eventually lost) and you can't read that let alone process it before chimping out about muh western europe this that, seek help
>this threadCringe.That's why Fantasy is superior to history.Give me more "Dwarfs GROODGE" instead of these whining about muh christians, muh pagans, muh Greeks, muh Turks ...
>>570136595BulgariaGODS... I FUCKING KNEEL
>>570136449>write a completely false and retarded post>get called out>insult to recover some pride, then write a completely unrelated drivel??This is what 400+ years of humiliation does to westoids.
>>570135603Technically true but the opposite is also technically true, every western european has like a 75% chance of being descended from charlemagne
>>570136684So were the Romans. They still ultimately lost when they came up against a state they couldn't handle after gobbling up weaker states in the Levant and even occasional victories and territory capture from the Parthians/Sassanids. That was the only point I was making even if it came with a healthy dose of ethnic insults.
>>570136595Byzantium vs Seljuks dlc will be the Ikit vs Tehen of Med3. Huge powercreep.
Would you join Nurgle for this good item?
>>570136595byzabros...what's our response?
>>570137326I'm not a byzaboo but if I were to argue in defensive of the eastern romans I would say that it's incredibly easy to move in to a region controlled by an ailing, major empire just to loot, pillage and destroy shit without contributing anything lasting to the geopolitical area in terms of technological or cultural advances. It's why low IQ retards jerk off the mongols even though the remnants of their "great empire" can only be seen in things like the Great Wall. Ironically created by their contemporaries.
>>570112180The HRE was NOT r'man, it was GERMAN (and a bit czech) (italians don't count). And it was glorious.
>>570137724once again you show your complete and lack of utter knowledge of real history besides pop history you heard of once or twice read a fucking book nigger, the mongol empire was impressive in a great plethora of ways that you dismiss entirely because they weren't western as usual, start by googling the maragheh observatory
>>570137938It was endorsed by the pope and therefore it was more roman than any greekoid larper fantasy
>>570138015And as usual anytime you mention it these low IQ brownoids come crawling out. No I won't read about your mudhut that was actually amazing, no I wont read about your "postal service" (ignoring that similar systems were already in use by the romans and chinese long before the mongols took to the stage). In fact I won't read any more about your useless steppe niggers because they ultimately achieved nothing.
>Alexander the Great is a nobody since his empire collapsed
>>570138387True, his father was the real innovator
>>570138287yeah you won't read anything because you haven't read anything relating to history, you've just watched epic tiktok edits by GrossDeutschlandGermaniaMacht explaining how only western countries were relevant in the medieval era, I get it, but its a telltale sign of someone that's just parroting pop history nonsense and hasn't read a page of a history book when he says the mongols were nothing impressive, and not just militarily either
>>570138561It's not pop historyYou don't know more than meReading propaganda by libcucks who worship niggers isn't historyYou can stop replying now, because you have nothing intelligent to contribute here (just like the mongols).
>p-please stop replying
>>570138015That's not me nigger. That's a different guy. Not all one person, you retards should know this by now. I also get the feeling you're getting baited at this point.
>>570138713oh my god you're retarded lmao
>>570138713yeah I do know way more than you because I've actually read about medieval history not absorbed it through tiktok simularca condensing it to a 60 second soundbyte per topic, that or short youtube videos, or just pure larp and you haven't even done that just vaguely heard some broken telephone tier "arguments", mongol logistics was literal centuries ahead of its time, they funded centers of learning and innovation that carried a ton of early medieval innovation, you're just too close minded and stupid to admit let alone read that a non-western power achieved something, completely propagandized
no more brother wars...
>>570139323I allied the fatimids once as jerusalem. that was kinda funny
>>570139132>completely propagandizedIronic, considering all that drivel you typed out is steppe nigger propaganda in the first place lmao>nooooo trust me bro they were so ahead of their time, so advanced and so powerful that's why nothing they did remains today bro you just had to be there broNothing more embarrassing than mongoloid cope
>>570139424historically accurate though, during the Siege of Antioch the Fatimids sent an embassy to the crusaders and formed an alliance against the Seljuks
>>570137281No but grant me that and I sell my own country.
>>570139612>friendship ended with the turks>now the franks are my best friend
>yeah bro every history lecture and book is fully of westcuck nigger propaganda>yeah even the ones written hundreds of years ago>oh that 30 seconds tiktok video made by a chink propaganda office with phonk blasting in the background?>it was everything I needed to know the REAL history of the worldEven fucking unironic Hyperboreans and Agarthans are less brainwashed and delusional than you. Holy fucking mother of all cattle.
it isn't a myth it's REAL historyI am a White Devil, a true son of Yakub and a proud patriot of AGARTHA
>>570139457whoah the nomadic people didn't leave any grand projects which took centuries to build behind so now braindead tourists can drool and gawk over, that means they had absolutely no effect looolnevermind that their systems & actions led to the development of all of modern history, you should google what the mongol capital Karakorum was like at its height, filled with so much fancy, luxurious and advanced shit from all over the world that after their fall it was all picked clean, the only reason Rome wasn't picked clean was because the same Germans you now expose were using the ancient Roman ruins as pig pens for centuries cause they couldn't build any on their own, not even saying that Rome didn't have a bigger effect than the Mongols even, but to say they didn't leave anything behind as usual shows a lack of historical knowledge beyond the most insufferable type of only west-centric pophistory
>>570127927I can't even complain about the China panderingg because the Chinks are what's keeping niggers out of Total Warhammer.
This is what happens when you wade into the Balkan and Turk mines, discussion of their factions needs to be banned for Med 3. Instead we can slapfight Franks and Anglos.
>>570115876That's not legend, that's Jack Lusted
>nooo trust me bro the guy mostly known for being a rapist actually was a genius and his empire was actually sooooo goood bro you dont get itMongoloid apologists really are subhuman huh
The only real history posts you can trust come from random /pol/ posts and indians with marble pfp on twitter.Everything else is Lib propaganda.
>>570140169not saying genghis khan wasn't a rapist, or that his empire was "Good" or "Bad", but it was advanced, this is undeniable
Those primary ancient sources? Made up by Liberals. All of it.
>>570140169>knownyou see this is your fundamental problem, you only care about what's popular and "known", not what actually happened or WHY it may be swept under the rug in the current system you live in where what you've heard about is solely exposed by a certain type of people with their own agendas, history is about learning history not just the aspects of history you personally emotionally like or dislike
>>570140258They killed millions if that isn’t bad what is? 1/10 people on the planet where killed
>>570140430Oh is this the part where you'll try to argue he wasn't a rapist? Go ahead, I'm waiting to hear it
this is 100% the paganlarper from before who got btfo'd
>>570140489You could kill 9/10 people on the planet right now and the world would improve.
what are the odds med3 doesnt go all the way to gunpowder and the nu world on launch and we get nickel and dimed
>>570140489and the romans didn't kill millions? lolkinda goes with being an expansionist empire>>570140610I'm not saying he wasn't a rapist retard, but he knew how to run an empire insanely efficiently and the mongols were even fair to the people that submitted, fairer than the Romans and many others, then they also funded centers of learning that led to a ton of innovation but YOU personally never heard of because west centric history doesn't like saying anything even remotely positive about the mongols, again google the maragheh observatory for instance
>>570140830>and the mongols were even fair to the people that submitted, fairer than the Romans and many othersYeah so fair that none of the subsequent states that popped up after the mongol empire collapsed wanted to carry on their torch lmao. Get the fuck out of here with this actual mongol cope, at first I thought you were joking but the more you post the more I'm starting to think you actually believe this garbage.
China is the biggest economy on all of Earth.Creative Assembly and Games Workshop should work together to create a Cathayan equivalent for Warhammer 40,000.
so i take it this is some retard who wants to sabotage the next op post just spamming
>>570141191guess why, because the mongols let you keep your own culture and autonomy as long as you flew their flag and accepted their diplomats, compared to the romans which forced their way of life on you and if you didn't like it put your whole family into slavery, if you can use all your braincells you'd find out why the latter creates more groups willing to "carry their torch", some would say the mongol way was better for a conquered people
>>570141264Just give the Tau more love.And don't Bretonnia them and make them complete grimderp.
>>570141452Not that retarded anon but first of all the Romans were over a thousand years before the Mongols, this is not exactly a particularly effective way to defend the Mongols being moral. We're generally more moral than the Mongols now, it's not an achievement. Second, Romans allowed local autonomy and culture in tons of areas. Greek wouldn't remain the lingua franca of the east if they didn't. They were merciful or not merciful based on the general and the context just like the Mongols.
>>570141452>guess why, because the mongols let you keep your own culture and autonomyYeah, because the mongol way of life was miles behind anything in the rest of the civilized world. They were steppe niggers who thrived on looting, raping and putting anything they couldn't bully in to "flying their flag" to the torch. Which is why it collapsed so quickly, and why nobody cared to integrate with their culture and carry it forward. You're also wrong about the romans, and you'd know that if you actually read history like you claim you did, but you're clearly some thirdie who's so used to the anti-european propaganda you've genuinely started to believe it
>>570140489>They killed millionsmost of the sources saying that were written hundreds of years later and if you compare their numbers to the actual size of the Mongolian army they get kill ratios of 5000 killed per mongol warrioryou need to be actually retarded to take any of those muslim sob stories at face value
>>570140830Literal left overs from cities they raped Along with all other libraries in Baghdad, the House of Wisdom was destroyed by Hulagu's army during the Siege of Baghdad.The books from Baghdad's libraries were thrown into the Tigris River in such quantities that the river was said to have run black with the ink from their pages.Nasir al-Din al-Tusi rescued about 400,000 manuscripts, which he took to Maragheh before the siege.Many of the books were also torn apart by pillagers so that the leather covers could be made into sandals
>>570141264we need Chinese themed imperial guard in the game
>>570141947>>570141828of course the time periods were different and there's exceptions but generally that was the caseit's not a matter of "anti european propaganda" this two tier system of history where fags propose whatever they learned on tiktok from grossgermania accounts and instantly dismiss anything else just pisses me off personally, the domain of paradox-kiddies that don't know anything about history but make larping that they do their whole personality
India has an even larger population than China...Which begs the question: Why doesn't CA add Ind?
>>570142230>but generally that was the caseNo, it wasn't. You've been reading shit history just like the people you're insulting. I've been with you for good chunks of the argument but this Mongol defense is rather absurd. They were advanced in many ways but they were just as brutal if not more so to conquered peoples when compared to the Romans.
>>570142230I get much of my history from Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook. You're welcome to challenge that with a better alternative.
>>570142226we really don't
>>570142696we really dowon't be happy until there are at least 30 fully fleshed out imperial guard regiments for me to choose from, we can hold on on xenosshit since nobody cares about those to put out more imperial guard
>>570140825there's basically no chance of gunpowder except maybe like some field guns
>>570142450never said they weren't brutal to people that rejected their rule, but instant dismissal of the mongols' is a textbook sign you're dealing with a pop history faggot that doesn't know anything about em besides muh rape, they were undoutedly one of the great empires, brutal or not
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>>570112456hot...
>>570142962They definitely were, but you got baited into the common trap of defending the Mongols on a moral level. Not a good place to be, even for the time they were over the top in many situations, even putting aside the sources that might be overexaggerated.
What’s the mongols lasting legacy… mulan? kwab
>>570143806Creating peace and prosperity for Asia.
>>570143806ended the islamic golden age with never before seen destruction, allowing europe to overtake them easily, for example
>>570143806uhhh uhhh throat singing and uhhhh uhhhh uhhh
Friends!
>>570143806Buck broke russoids forever
>>570144707me on the left
>>570144751The only white people ruled by mongols turns into a authoritarian backwater makes you think
Ghark Ironskin LL when?
>>570143806Raping and gaping the Arabs, which was pretty based.
The only white people ruled by Mongols were the first to launch a man into space.That really makes you think...
>Glup Shitto the Gore Eater when?
>>570145079Would be the only fast lord for them. So the meta!
>>570145113The soviets did what mongols did take other countries scientists and claim their achievements as their own lmao
>>570143806>brought chinese firearms to europe>brought european siege engines to asia>revolutionized warfare forever by bringing together western and eastern techniques>revitalized the silk road>first international post system>invented Russia, Tzars were direct descendants of Tatar/Steppe nobility>raped the caliphate of baghdad(very based)>descendants ruled the middle east for centures>descendants ruled the india for centures>last Chinggisid ruler only deposed in 1920
>>570145373Sergei Korolev was from another country? huh
>>570145580Ukraine and Belarus little bro
>>570145373its rude to compare the mongols to those penis lickers
>>570145852NTA but neither of those countries even existed before the USSR.
>>570146065They where the own people with their own language and culture. It’s like saying all those Persians and Chinese where mongol scientists
I wonder if Medieval 3 will let us play as the Kievan Rus?
>>570146376Olga as their LLlike Katarin, but cooler
>>570146376Why ever not?
not making a new edition, you do it.
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>>570047176>Halberdiers don't have expert charge defense, anyway.retard detected
