#1296: Doki Doki EditionPrevious: >>569872730This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.>/mmg/ newsMega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQMega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Porthttps://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PCNew official licensed smartwatch pre-order announced, a new way to Mega Man 2>Fan game news:Mega Man: The Rise of Ra Moonhttps://gamejolt.com/games/MM25_2/566983Mega Man 64https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64RecompiledMega Man DXtremehttps://youtu.be/C9_ykoYqm44Mega Man X Viral Nightmarehttps://youtu.be/AVToZHXwlsEMega Man Whttps://megamanw.com/>/inti/ news:Kingdom's Return out now https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkUMajogami out now on PS5 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 Dual Collection releasing on 7/9/2026 https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 3 coming in 2027 https://youtu.be/R9-kBPHYMPsGunvolt Trilogy Enhanced Switch 2 Edition coming in 2026 https://youtu.be/TuAm0HVVkVEThe GV3 portion of the OCW has been scannedhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YrbaqiF0CsIaZsAwFIeUfM-vLI1MVoYjSomething Gal*Gun/Guardians related has been teased in Famitsu's 40th anniversary spread with artwork featuring two new characters>Other:Translations of Classic mangas on mangadexNot-E3 has failed us>DiVE Linksrentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)>Koikatsurentry.org/mmgintikk>Melt Stuffrentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real>Game Downloadsrentry.org/mmglinksHas all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files>Audiovisual Mediarentry.org/mmgintimediaContains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
I want to kabedon Zonda and french kiss her until her eyes glaze over, any questions
>>570128167>It's probably not going to be as depressing as GV2, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kirin gets really fucked up by the end of GX. She has a debt to pay to the misery Gods.And there'd be much rejoicing from /inti/.
Wannabe edgelords are gay
>>570146427Very Copen coded, if he was into that stuff.>>570146640I'm looking forward to GX too.
>>570145124>>570145869>Mytyl mixes her ancient, pure, noble Kamizono genes with some brazilian el extinguido favela monkey>Copen dies an incelJapan has fallen...
>>570146969>>Mytyl mixes her ancient, pure, noble Kamizono genes with some brazilian el extinguido favela monkeyExcuse me, but GV has Sakurazaki genes. He's arguably from an even more prestigious bloodline, and it's one with a deep connection to the supernatural as well.
I want to mix my genes with Zonda's countless times, if you catch my drift
>>570146246Oh boy, hope this doesn't get nuked like the last two times it was used as an OP.
>>570147518define "it"
>>570146551>Kirin gets sent to a muslim country as part of the non aggretion pact between Japan and Soudi Arabia >She discovers that dogs are banned there because their droll deflects Ala's blessings
>>570146969>Copen dies an incelMaybe we need to spread Zonda's love to more adepts. The Kamizono line can't be extinguished.
>>570147186I see more Dos Santos Du Nacimiento than Sakurazako in there.
>>570147725The image at the OP. It has been on 3 out of the 5 threads that were prunned by the Elpizo pet of the fake /mmg/.
>>570147973Seriously? They even have the same theme.
>>570147814I'm not an adept, but I welcome Zonda's love being spread to me in more ways than one
>>570148147It's never been used as an OP before.
>>570148446Because it was prunned.
>>570147814Maya's the one carrying the main bloodline anyways, wonder what her and Houdai's offspring are doing actually.
>>570147186No, that's Ouka. GV had to be artificially magic'd up.
>>570148705Making Kirin.
>>570146246From today's stream according to a proper translator>GX is probably the first case where Lumen's VA wept aloud after recording voice lines, not because of Lumen, but because of GV for some reason (details kept under wraps in order to avoid spoilers)
>>570148147>>570148652By the time this image was released the unjustified janny attacks have already stopped for several threads at that point. Pretty sure we're in the clear now.
>>570147814Zonda picked the wrong minos. Any other one and the world would look like a Wada Wau doujin by the time Kirin turned Gunvolt into a dog. Or a Cool Sempai doujin if the dragon plague got to them.
>>570148652No, never means never. It didn't even exist during that mess.
>>570148156Look, anon, Kaoruko got really mad when her husband cheated on her with Kaname so she acted unwise on her Brazilian vacation. It's not GV's fault he was given up to evil corporation to hide the Sakurazaki shame.
>>570148726Ouka? lol. She's Kaname's kid.https://youtu.be/C-vuB4p1XJ4?t=191INTI connects characters though music, so why does GV have large parts of Kaoruko's theme song in his theme?
>>570148892So he either fucked up again or he's being killed off for good this time so that people stop pestering about 2.5 or 4.
>>570148795Well then, that's the end of that branch then.
>>570148892Another note worthy tidbit is that iX3's director isMiyazawa aka the Curse of the Moon director instead of Tai like the first two entries. We're in for some kino, I already know it.
>>570148892They're going to be tears of joy for the happy end btw
>>570149108Yes, Ouka as the daughter of a miko and naturally on the 5th lifewave is more naturally in tune with the super natural than GV whom had to be injected with Brasileiro magic.
>>570149208Surely you mean gameplay because as far as story is concerned he's partly to blame for GV3's mess. We might get a cool moment like Luna Secare if we're lucky though.
>>570149273
>>570148892Prediction: it's going to be even more fucked than before and Gunvolt will be trapped in an eternal cycle of torture while everyone else can do nothing but watch as the price to save the world, it will be bad enough that even ASG2 Copen would regret everything he did and want to save him
>>570149365Injecting somebody with zero potential with electric demon hueblood nets you a fried kid as project Gunvolt was able to attest multiple times, the subject has to have some unrealized lifewave compatibility to work.
>>570149273Maybe they are the other kind of tears. The kind of tears that you would see if Inti went back to their lolicon roots.
>>570149118I don't understand why they don't just make games set within the GV universe and just not bother with the boring suffering bait lead.
>>570149561I've dealt with enough weird biological situations that I'm almost certain that I could survive the process, give me the needle and I'd use whatever septima I end up getting on Zonda in whatever way yields sexual results
>>570149592Inti are too coward to bring those tears out. Maybe it'll be him killing himself in GV so that GV2 never happens or something equally stupid.Or maybe we'll get the shitty pokemon ending where nothing actually happens and we're told it's still happening offscreen making those tears of frustration.
>>570149679I don't understand why somebody else had to come in and make the Gibril spin-off game fans have been begging Inti to make for a decade.
>>570149378>Surely you mean gameplayOf course, its the most important part of a video game after all.
>>570148892Nice. Bad end or true end? Eh, can't be worse than GV2's Garden followed by Eden's Party. I liked everyone, so seeing all the vicious killing sucked. And all of it so Xiao could get his pendant. No upside for either GV or Copen.
>>570149858Don't anon, the gunvolt program only had three people not die as a result, the adult lost his mind from it(so you wouldn't even be able to enjoy Pantera) and those other two were still scarred and mentally harmed by it.Taking and moving septima around is monstrous.
>>570150270Like Dr. K said, if you were a decent person, the procedure would have killed you. That you survived shows him that you are deserving of all the torment he's about to visit upon you.
>>570150263Everyone got the ending they deserved in GV2, except maybe the 130 cms. Fact is, neither Copen nor GV really deserved a happy ending on their roots. They both waged wars of extermination against Eden, down to killing noncombatants and the very young from the dialogue and design notes, so...
>>570150270Frankly, still a tempting gamble for another tool to use to make Zonda lose her mind from overstimulation
>>570150270>>570150769 (me)Actually, slight addendum, I feel like the Azure Striker septima is probably one of the riskiest to work with for a procedure like that; I would likely be far better off depending on what was being used as a base
>>570150769And yet the shards show she more into Copen than GV.
>>570150724Michiru didn't deserve her ending. Everyone else did. Go back to your grave and stop haunting that traumatized boy and keeping him from healing.
Actually, based on both the Cyber Diva and Gunvolt projects it seems the taking and implanting of septima is usually lethal, particularly to the subject that doesn't "vibe" with the power while the adept that got minos'd becomes so enfeebled they can't even fucking stand or speak.Makes me wonder how many girls Sumeragi went through implanting the CD until they landed on the suitable host of Cyan. Which also goes with how septima is kinda like your soul but also tangible and physical within your body as septimosome.Then there's Pantera who implanted herself with the Cyber Diva but took several precautions via shard normalization and stabilizing it further via Mytyl.
>>570151521Go home Anakin.
>>570152027For Cyan they just lucked out with a tube baby actually so it's more like a pile of fetuses if there was any.
>>570151521Joule didn't deserve it. I don't understand why GV subconsciously resents her like a curse. Zonda is complicated, because there wasn't much you could do after she took the shards into her. Give her a few years, and she could either wake up or double down on the Eden dogma. But GV/Copen were going there to kill her, whether she surrendered or not, to put a permanent end to Eden, so yeah.
>>570153165Joule is probably just a carbon copy clone of Mytyl. Megu is also Mytyl's VA for the one voiced line she has at the epilogue.
If Cyan had actually dated anyone she'd still be alive. Done in by her oneitis. And Asimov.
>>570153380Zonda dragged Mytyl into it, so she loses any sympathy from that. It's one thing to jump Gunvolt/Joule since they're throwing themselves out there. But Copen's sister is bed ridden and sickly.
>>570153380>But GV/Copen were going there to kill her, whether she surrendered or not, to put a permanent end to Eden, so yeah.By that point they had no choice. Eden needed to be wiped out. There could be no mercy.
>>570153776Nah.
>>570153828GV said this and then wondered why he was a dragon ending the world like the nice Russian lady said.
>>570153632Cloning doesn't really help with making more compatible subjects that's why Sumeragi resorts to kidnapping children with potential instead. I'd argue the same voice and similarities were just derived from implanting the factor on a fetus so it influenced its development.
>>570153776One adept's life against the good of adeptkind. The trade made sense within her crazed world view. She could probably "resurrect" her anyway as Mytyl is inside her like the G7 (it'd be a fake though, but she's coping). Zonda copes furthermore by stating that Mytyl is a noble and great hero for her unwilling sacrifice. Finally, she's not being a hypocrite about it, as she's always been selfless herself and was willing to lay down her life to ensure the adepts got their shot at utopia (as she saw it).
>>570154787What I don't get is why can't she just make a mirror copy of Elise and have that Elise resurrect Mytyl? Be really easy unless Elise wasn't actually dead and was just hiding since death don't matter for shit at times in this series.
>>570155103Tai is back in charge, so chances are, GV's character development in GV3 was ignored, and he jumped to blowing everything up as the most convenient option, and everyone in GV1/GV2 is dead again. So it'll almost be like GV3 never happened. Yay!
>>570155357>he jumped to blowing everything up as the most convenient optionIt isn't?
>>570155357>GV3 writing is actually being defended nowHow did we get this low?
>>570149975Majogobonito had those tears.
>>570155942As beloved as GV2 is, universally everyone agrees the ending socks dick. So having the person that thought that was a happy ending back in charge is making apprehension rise.
>>570155942GV3 promised the weird Eden simps their characters can come back.
>>570155517It's good for winning a war, but there's a reason why the US doesn't just nuke everyone it gets into a scuffle with, and that's because it makes winning the peace very difficult. There's a continuum of violence, and if you back your enemy into a corner, they'll radicalize and fight harder, then once you kill them, you're left with a more chaotic situation. GV3 critiqued Gunvolt for never seeking an alternative to maximizing kill counts for the kudos. It wasn't "just talk to dah enemy and make peace with them," though that was part of it. It stated that if you wanted to efficiently take out your enemy, maybe even get a friend, you needed to understand and empathize with your enemy. It also condemned GV for being too willing to escalate and use violence. GV should have used violence more effectively than just marching through the front door and killing everyone. Maybe searching for a secret entrance or not blowing up a power plant to mildly inconvenience Sumeragi while causing massive issues for civilians. GV's tendencies to jump to maximum violence are best illustrated in the Quinn short, where he states that the homeless druggie adepts threatening Quinn are weak and no threat to him, that he could disable them, maybe rough them up, but he still decides to turn them into chunky salsa because mercy is weakness. Violence is currency, and Gunvolt spent it too freely.
>>570156104The only reason Tai's the way he is is because Tsuda told him to be that way in GV series, if you give him carte blanche without Tsuda around you get either Gal Gun Double Peace or schizo nonsense that has a happy ending of sorts like iX2.
The only thing I really care about in regards to GV2 in Copen's gameplay
>>570156505I simp for Nova and Elise as well.
>>570157323Do you like Z3?
>>570157402Yes, why?
>>570157652That's how Acura looks like he'll play.
>>570157128That's a nice paragraph with a bunch of headcanon mixed in not supported by actual game or drama CD script at all, where did you get that part of the drug addicts being weak and no threat to him but will kill him anyways? All the script says is that in his weakened body and mental state he might die himself and doesn't know if saving the girl in front of him has any meaning.
>>570156505>Eden simpsA lot of it is just because they're hot/cute. GV2 had the most attractive cast for both heroes and allies. You can look at the first impression reactions the Japs produced, and it's all "omg is Eden a beauty agency." It extends even to lore, where Desna and Zonda are supposed to be so attractive/cute they are deified by adepts and nonadepts.
>>570157739In iX3 you mean? Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how that turns out.
>>570157846I think they're just reading from the bad translations posted months ago. Not sure. Everyone GV killed deserved it. There's a reason he treats there deaths either like it was nothing or seems happy about it, like when he told Xeno he felt okay after killing Elise and he'd give him the highlights of how he killed her.
Genocide bad, guys.If that upsets you: fuck you. Eden is right.
>>570158242>felt okay after killing Elise and he'd give him the highlights of how he killed her.That was probably just a bad translation.>>570158342>Genocide bad, guys.Counter genocide also bad.
>>570158242You're bullshitting as much as that other anon but on the other direction.
>>570158415>Counter genocideSlander self defense as much as you want, you'll be erroneous all the same.
>>570150270Besides, fatmaxxing will net you basically any adept girl you may desire.
>>570155942We didn't mock the Kirinfags hard enough.
>>570158415Xeno: おいおいGV…さっきはなんだよ、いきなり通信を切りやがって…無事なんだな?>Hey, GV... what was that all about earlier? Suddenly cutting the connection like that... You're okay, right?GV: ああ…詳しい説明は帰ってからするよ…>Yah...I'll give you the details when I get back.Nah, he's pretty casual. Gunvolt isn't subtle. If he felt bad he'd be morose or angry at Sumeragi for what they did to Elise. He'd tell Xeno that he's not feeling great after what he was forced to do. Instead, he just treats it like a mission well done. He's made of ice. LAiX shows what GV characters are like when they feel sympathy for someone they kill, and this isn't it.Later, he tells Elise off when she apologizes to him for coming back. He doesn't like her and wants to kill her.
>>570158985It was impossible to even discuss Kirin here for a good while thanks to that faggot that spammed the same tired knot jokes over and over so I doubt that was the problem.
>>570159464Have you considered Elise deserved it? The younger a boss character is in GV, the more evil and likely to die they are. There's a reason why almost all the characters GV spares are 17 or over.
>>570158342>Genocide bad, guys.Oh but when the anime girl is on top of (you) and it's telling you thay he will destroy your bloodline to create and army of brats that will destroy (you)r culture and turn it into anime, everybody here including (you) cheer.
>>570159464Yeah ignore the voice acting where he sounds suddenly quiet and very much not ok or casual about it why don't you anon.
>>570159657Real pic related.
Not even worthy a (You).
>>570159912He sounds like how he always does. GV in the first two games has two modes on missions: cool and professional or filled with righteous indignation and vengeance.
>>570159784>girl liking you and starting a family with you = good>evil = badSeems simple enough, no?
>>570159464>Stella's fuckbot had Roro completely smittenDystnine was a chad.
>>570159657It is the Kirinfags who make those jokes. They are like the Midnafags and/or Hildafags of the IntiCreates fandom.
>>570160359Unfortunately for RoRo he likes his women organic.
>>570160254>The barbaric hordes only wish to start families with the locals
>>570160180He doesn't sound like always there anon you're so full of shit.
>>570160727The adepts were already the locals. They're born like everyone else to normal parents.
>>570160359How would have mother reacted to that? All the things she and Copen did, all the carnage, all based on a lie because robots can develop septima naturally too.
>>570160359>roro had to be corrupted to feel anything for cope>been with him for a hundred years without developing anything beyond friendship>meanwhile she's already latching onto the cock of the first adept robot male she seesFemale *clap* adepts *clap* don't *clap* like *clap* minos *clap* men.It is the fucking reploid dilemma all over again.
>>570160826All of the mayor members of Eden were born in the most barbaric, brutalistic and stupid nations of our world.
>>570160979>Female *clap* adepts *clap* don't *clap* like *clap* minos *clap* menIf you ignore how it's Pantera's love for Acura, sure. Or are you still seething about X DiVE?
>>570160752He sounds the same:After Elise:https://youtu.be/RCS1M6WASro?t=538After Merak:https://youtu.be/rnEuL1vwAEw?t=110After Carrera:https://youtu.be/d14RmhtKtMg?t=165
>>570160979You know if you ignore all the minos in her fan meetings.
>>570161193Or how Isola was grooming a minos boy in all the promo posters she was with him.
>>570161195>Great job, GV!I know Merak was a bad kid, but you'd think Moniqa would feel a little bad considering she had a reaction to GV's young age in the drama CDs IIRC.
>>570161516He literally drowned his own men to try and kill GV a few minutes prior.
>>570161516Been over this. People in setting don't consider young adepts to be kids. Pantera is treated more like an adult and is called a woman by a few characters, whereas Ouka is treated like a minor, despite Ouka being 5-6 years older than Pantera.
>but the drama CDs!>but the posters!
>>570161195He doesn't when answering Gino when he asks him but ok.
>>570161665That's not true. Some people do. Others, like Jota make a huge deal out of it and refuse to kill young adepts except for exceptional cases, like Gunvolt.
>>570161808This reminds me of the Zonda arguments, because she's also a difficult character to read while she's "on mission" due to the mask she adopts. You have to really pay attention to when her even cadence breaks to tell when she's emotionally moved by anything (signified by the ellipsis). Of course, I don't think you'd give her the same benefit that you're giving Gunvolt.
>>570163232Why would I not give her the benefit? I hate this disingenuous shitflinging from both sides that's commonplace in this thread.
>>570163232Anyway, the first image was her reaction to the G7 deaths. She rarely has any pauses in the script at all since she's so composed, so a lot of ... and ! means she's rattled. She then realizes that the other Eden members are freaking out, so she composes herself even though internally she's roiling inside from the internal dialog, and thus projects calmness. Hence, the dialogue transitions back to being smooth (no pauses).This next one has her speaking in an even cadence, and then becoming emotional when she begins speaking of how adepts and nonadepts can no longer hold hands together, and that she can't show love to those who are incapable of receiving/giving it or mercy to those who oppose the survival of adepts.Zonda again is difficult, because even when emotional in script, her VA doesn't really alter her voice that much. You have to really pay attention.
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How do Copenfags feel about Zonda?On the one hand, she took Mytyl from him and is sort of like his Nova across games (she's always be the villain he'll be fighting against in spinoffs or trailers). On the other hand, her soul was so attracted to him it drove two girls yandere for him.
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>>570163232>>570163930If I'm going to be honest with you I never understood the people that just dismiss her as completely emotionless or psychopathic, it was painfully obvious to me even through the 8-4 bullshit that she was deeply affected by the deaths of the G7.
>>570165284Oh hey, same eye design. And they have the similar voices and reverb effects.
>>5701658488-4 isn't emotionless, just psychopathic. There's a reason why she's seen as the most evil GV character over in the west. The attached picture is about the normal view people take of her, which is impressive considering she should be getting auto sympathy for her design. Compare the grief scene for instance:8-4>Inside the Garden, Eden's remote fortress... The oracle Zonda offers up prayers at the altar. >Zonda: Ah! I sense something in my mirror shard! Another of The Seven has given their life in battle.>Blue Pawn: A-Another one? That makes three!>Red Pawn: What should we do, oracle?>The Seven are Eden's most powerful warriors. Losing one strikes fear in the rank-and-file.>Zonda: Fret not. Parting is sorrow, but The Seven are resolute. Even as their shards return to the hands of the enemy, the normalization process proceeds smoothly. Soon my prayers--and my plan--will be made whole. For now, offer up a word for our departed comrades.
>>570167130Here's the original:Narration:--某国にあるエデンの拠点要塞"ベラデン" 祭壇では,多くの同志に見守られながら座女であるパンテーラが祈りをささげていたPantera:...! わたしの持つミラーピースを通して伝わるこの感覚—皆さん... 今, わたしたちの同志·G7の戦士が, また一人倒れました...Eden Soldier (blue):そんな...! エデンの最強の戦士のうち三人もが!?Eden Soldier (red):同志パンテーラ, 私たちはどうすれば...!Narration:G7はエデン最強, 不敗の七人... そのうちも三人も倒されるとは...エデンの構成員たちに動揺が走る—Pantera:皆さん, うろたえないで. 別れは悲しいことですが, 全てはG7も同意のこと...彼らの遺したミラーピース. 今は敵の手に渡りながらも,様々な第七波動(セブンス)との融合経験と実戦運用を重ねて, 順調に普遍化(ノーマライズ)を進めています間もなくすれば, わたしの祈りと計画は完成するでしょう今はただ, 理想に殉じ, この世を去った同志たちに愛の祈りをささげましょう—Narration:そして, ベラデンは静寂に包まれる... >Narration:>--At "Beladen," an Eden stronghold located in a certain country, Pantera—a Priestess—offered prayers at the altar, watched over by many of her comrades.>Pantera:>...! This sensation, transmitted through the Mirror Piece I hold...Everyone... another one of our comrades—a warrior of the G7—has fallen...>Eden Soldier (blue):>It can't be...! Three of Eden's strongest warriors, gone!?>Eden Soldier (red):>Comrade Pantera, what are we to do...?!>Narration:>The G7 were Eden's mightiest—the invincible seven... To think that three of them have been defeated...A wave of agitation rippled through the ranks of Eden.>Pantera:>Everyone, please do not be dismayed. Parting is a sorrowful thing, yet this is a course for which the G7 have all consented...The Mirror Pieces they left behind—though currently in enemy hands—are steadily undergoing "Normalization" through repeated combat deployment and fusion with various "Sevens" (Seventh Waves).Before long, my prayers and the plan shall come to fruition. For now, let us simply offer prayers of love for our comrades who sacrificed their lives for the ideal and have departed this world—>Narration:>And so, Beladen was enveloped in silence...Even in the 8-4 script where she's faking it, she comes off as a lot less sympathetic to the G7.
>>5701658488-4's version, I get that she's shocked, but not really in grief. There's no love, just a tool being used up, especially when you consider her later dialog with Gunvolt where she's very dismissive of their deaths. They chop down her gratitude lines, so the focus of her dialog shifts to her plans, and makes their deaths seem like an afterthought, whereas the Japanese version only mentioned the mirror shards to reassure the soldiers rather than to do some evil gloating about "plans going smoothly." The 8-4 version is just a really evil and manipulative person. Great villain writing.
>>570165290She's a gay fish!
>>570169472Yes and she has great taste.
>570167532>570167130Holy shit why do you freaks care so much?
>>570170694Zonda is worthy of all the love, it really is that simple
>>570148892I'll add another possibility that maybe they finally go into his background and reveal what happened to his family. It's one of those hooks that was dropped after GV1. Last I saw it mentioned was in some audio dramas where some Sumeragi officials start talking about his background and name, but it's cut off. Considering that Gunvolt might have looped back, and he's stuck in looped time, he might actually remember his mom this time around. Wouldn't it be sad if some horrible tragedy ripped them apart? Or maybe he's enticed with an ideal world, and it's achingly sad what it is when he turns it down. There are lots of possibilities. Gunvolt can get to you in the weirdest ways sometimes, like if you realize Lullaby is probably Shinobu singing to Copen or EP's antics being colored by knowing all these likable quirky characters are about to cross the moral line and meet tragedy.
What kind of freak talks about Inti Creates characters in a thread about Inti Creates? What's the world coming to?
>>570165284>How do Copenfags feel about Zonda?If those madladz did it, I'd be cool with it. Zonda is a lot more fun than Quinn or Joule, and she'd be hilarious next to Copen.
>>570165896Mytyl's colors + Zonda's contrasts.
>>570167130>most evil character in the westThat's Asimov, like there's just no contest unless you're taking the shitposter that rides the 8-4 localization's word here as representative of the entire western base.
>>570173126Disagree. I found 8-4 Zonda to be far more repulsive. There was just something so disgusting about her.Not only is she seeking the same thing as Asimov, which is the genocide of all nonadepts and the enslavement of all adepts with the muse, her evil is highly personal. Asimov doesn't betray loved ones. He keeps everyone at a distance. Zonda gets close to people and twists them. She corrupts them. 8-4 states that she was responsible for radicalizing Tenjian, and it's her dreams he is following. She gets them to love her, while only seeing them as tools. She speaks of them with contempt, like they're just objects when in private. Even her brother, the person who raised her, she hardly cares about.Zonda is two-faced. She presents herself as a loving holy woman, but in private, she's a condescending and sadistic sleazeball. Asimov is honest with you. He's an insane tyrant who will take your family hostage to coerce you. He will rant about how what he's doing is necessary for the evolution of the species. Zonda, on the other hand, states that she's doing it all for her own survival and for godhood above everything else.The only reason Asimov is worse is that he was in a position of power longer. Given the same power and time, 8-4 Zonda would have been far worse.
>>570175176After reading this, I have to ask in full: what if I want to enslave Zonda with the power of my cock
>>570173126In every fanfic I've seen, Zonda is either off-screened or brutally murdered. Asimov gets to be a "nuanced" character through his relationship with Gunvolt. To me, 8-4 Zonda comes off as way more sadistic. Asimov doesn't enjoy doing evil shit, he just doesn't care. Zonda definitely does enjoy being an evil bitch. See my image for examples.
>>570175176>>570176763Nah, Asimov shot Joule for no other reason than spite and gets pretty hard describing what he'll do to Kirin, but you're right in that he is more human than Zonda. The last scene with him in GV3 is more human than anything 8-4 Zonda got, and he's not completely self serving. He values his warped dreams more than himself.
>>570170874She's worthy of a bullet like all adepts>Copenfa-He's a coward and shit.
>>570173126>Michiru grooming Roro into a gf for her brother.
>>570146246>Not-E3 has failed usYou still had hopes?
>>570148892Not that I would doubt it, but could I get some corroboration? A link to a Japanese anon talking about it or autotranslated sub would be enough.
>>570180562nta, but the only thing I could find is Mayu sayingGXでの4人の掛け合い、激アツですね>The 4-way banter in GX is absolutely epicfollowed by a crying face + heart on fire emojihttps://x.com/mineda_mayu/status/2064715561670709647andガンヴォルトGXは泣きシナリオなのかな?たのしみ>Is Gunvolt GX going to be a tearjerker story? I'm looking forward to it.https://x.com/MegamanSc11034/status/2064684049172742183
When all is said and done, Gunvolt might end up being the edgier series, especially if they end up ignoring GV3 and we note that iX3 is being directed by a different guy. iX has Mytyl, and the characters can curse now, but aside from that, Gunvolt killed mostly other pitiable kids with 0 regrets and the back ground lore is way more brutal and sad. Full Powered Idol is nothing compared to the stuff in the main series. Gunvolt doesn't have happy endings or resolve the underlying problem while iX does. In the original Tai/Tsuda script for GV3, GV was going to kill a bunch of young children at Eden, causing the survivor to chase him down when she reached 15 after a 10 year time skip and force him to kill her. And he probably wouldn't have felt anything for that either. He probably would have said it was her fault for being evil and consumed by revenge. So I don't think iX is as edgy overall so far.
Which adept do you think has the biggest vibrator collection?
>>570184736GV being the series for kids while iX being the ones catered towards older teens actually makes sense when you think about it. Some of the most saddest or messed up shit that you'll find, where the kid characters are ripped apart or villains get away with everything as the antiheroes and antivillains all murder each other, is marketed towards 10 year olds. This is anime like Made in the Abyss, Evangelion, or Victory Gundam and IBO. Then your older demographic stuff are less violent overall, with a more comedic, ecchi, or philosophical bent. Even the action shows tend not to have a huge kill off. Monogatari or Kaguya sama are for older teens.
>>570184736All the GV characters are adults unless it's the weird parallel world of the drama CDs where it suddenly matters in setting and they actually behave their ages.
>>570185694Easy.
>>570170874Is it that simple?
>>570157217iX2 only happened cause it was rushed. GX might be one huge whiplash. It might not matter either, as the time prison is an excuse to wash away everything at the end, so they can get really crazy and dark again.
こんにちは。社⾧の辻本です。皆さまのおかげでカプコンは、2026年6月11日をもって43周年を迎えることができました。今年も様々なゲームタイトルの発売に加えて映像作品の公開も予定しております。今後のカプコンの挑戦に、ぜひご期待ください!Hello, I am Tsujimoto, the President.Thanks to all of you, Capcom marked its 43rd anniversary on June 11, 2026.This year, in addition to releasing various game titles, we also have plans to launch video productions.Please look forward to the challenges Capcom will take on in the future!-https://x.com/capcom_official/status/2064890428374278264
>>570187430Yeah... she's that horny but has oneitis for the one monogamous sultan in 2000 years.
>>570189884It is, and I would be happy to give her all the love she could ever want and then some
>>570157217>>570190467>>570156104It's a good thing that Tsuda is directing GX then:https://youtu.be/EKVInGMUI0I?t=857
>>570191281Oh...so Shadow Yakumo will become the exorsist club from the Fan No Hitori doujins.
>>570180562>>570148892Timestamped. Here's where she says she burst into tears.https://youtu.be/EKVInGMUI0I?t=1166>Well, even without touching on the story, I felt that during the recording... I think this is probably the first time I burst into tears after reading my lines. Well, Gunvolt is a work that allows you to imagine all sorts of things, like happy tears or tears from all sorts of different endings, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, what can I say now? As morpho, I shouldn't cry. But the voice from above saying that, you know, it's like looking down on yourself while you're recording, you get that perspective of a observer, right? I couldn't hold back any longer.This translation sucks. Somebody else do it.
>>570191395It means GV1+2 adepts will get noose'd again.
>>570192765I'm not sure about the rest of them, but I'm more than happy to put Zonda on a tight leash as a form of breathplay if that's what you mean by noose
>>570192765Straight off the bat, GV could delete the eight 16 and older characters with little controversy, just because they aren't as cuddly and don't have as much side story attention. Maybe Elise gets some whining, but aside from being very attractive and huggable, I don't think she'd bring that much to the table. I'd be miffed to see Jota go, since he's a rare example of a guy with big ego, but still pretty cool. He has a real knight in shining armor vibe, that doesn't show through in the actual game since Gunvolt is a "cur" in his mind. I would have liked to see him get a redemption in audience minds. For that fact, Desna as well, because the facet of her you get as an enemy is the one that's the least endearing. She doesn't like fighting, so it's reflected in her more gloomy attitude as she retreats into star reading. She's actually very likable in a friendly context.Of the remaining characters, Zonda is probably the stickiest to have GV kill again. There's a reason why they danced around it in GV3, when they were quite to mention all the other characters he killed. But if they want to go for shock value, they could do it again. She'd probably be as defenseless as Joule or Layla once you got past her illusions, though.
>>570193802If by that you mean hanging from a tree branch then yes.
>>570196026The average age of people spared by GV was around 17 years or above. The average age of people Gunvolt killed, or tried to kill, was around 15.5, so lol, good luck with that.
>>570196026>There's a reason why they danced around it in GV3To string you along.
>>570196203>To string you along.String me along for what? He definitely killed her. Her face is all in pain, she had a couple of final words, the same death animation as Master Albert, and the screen fades to white as she explodes like Nova. The only thing that's missing is the blood effect and that's because GV2 removed them.Then GV is back in the Garden afterward and Joule is freed and joined with Mytyl. The only reason they obliquely reference by lines like you ended a young lady's dreams is because they don't want to acknowledge it. You'd think the fake Zonda would say something, but it's all sex jokes and deranged racism as Tenjian says all the important stuff.
>>570191281>>570192278lol they were all freaking out and spamming GV2 (爪) in the comments when they started talking depressing or dark stuff, especially when she started talking about bursting into tears
So to confirm, if I buy the enhanced trilogy, I'll be able to get GX as a DLC later, right?
>>570200835They all started saying "zonbitoa" when they encountered an enemy, then Tsuda clarified that he said "they were like zombies but aren't actually," whatever that meant. I guess they were referring to an earlier conversation that happened off camera. That solves the entire "not human" quote from Lola. Maybe what's affecting those people is what is effecting Copen as well, and why he has amnesia.
>>570202016zondies...
>>570148892>>570200835>>570192278How'd your opinions on Xiao change if he returns to deliver us another GV2 tier depressionfest? For bonus points, he manipulates Joule, Mytyl, and Zonda into dying again?
>>570202016And they ended it right before the boss fight because they didn't want to spoil anything and Tsuda and co felt like they explained enough as is. There were some changes and polishing. The characters had voices and the muses had new transition animations when you swapped characters. In the Japanese version, they went with Time Clip, not Time Prison, btw. Thus ends the GX portion of the stream.
>>570202830Nothingposting will never be the same.
>>570203140>they went with Time Clip, not Time PrisonIt's Prison of Time with Time Clip as the furigana
>>570156104I loved it. It's terribly bitter and entirely deserved. In the sense that it was a predictable outcome to what everybody was doing, it fits perfectly.What 3 did to the setting is just atrocious, irredeemable.
>>570201961Steam and PS5 will get it as DLC but there's no word about it on Switch 1, only an upgrade pack if you own a Switch 2.
>>570205726>It's Prison of Time with Time Clip as the furiganaIt's Time Clip. Here's the stream with the time stamp where GV says it:https://youtu.be/EKVInGMUI0I?t=1410If it is Xiao, Time Clip would work better for his personality. It also might be a reference to a Japanese movie/vidya/anime chain.
I swear to god if there's heaven prison
>>570206232You DO know what furigana is and how it's used like this right?
>>570206473couldn't that be "time crypt"
>>570147764>>570146551>GV2 is depressingits more than depressing, its a total betrayal of everything 1 was supposed to represent.
>>570206473They call it Time Prison in the English script. Who knows if they will correct it or not to be in line with the Japanese script. Probably not. They typically go with the cooler name rather than quirkier one when it comes to Septima.
>>570202830GV2 was bad enough to completely turn me against the franchise.
>>570206897>its a total betrayal of everything 1 was supposed to represent.In the very first drama CD, the writer says he's under the impression that one of GV1's themes is "the dangers of telling a story from only one side"You think GV2 doesn't fit that?
Is it just me or was the Kane twist in BMZ3's final area kinda obvious/unsurprising? Maybe it's because I spoiled it when I first watched a video about BMZ 3(I never knew of the trilogy before hand and was introduced by said video). But even then it should be pretty obvious once you fire your homing missiles and just read the dialogu of the BMZ2 MA riders.
>>570207162GV1 is about an idol culture that exploits girls voices regardless of their desires or even because of them. Gunvolt steals the worlds idol and protects and nurtures her free from a corporate environment who only uses her songs to enslave the public, prioritizing the girl over her voice.In the end, after the end of GV1, they treat him like hes a fucking fan who cant let joule/morpho go when hes actually the flesh and blood person who was part of her life, ripping her away from the only human connection she had, while simultaniously actually recreating the situation the entire game was condemning: Joule's septima being removed leading to these events, and then having it removed all over again.GV2 utterly betrays the human relationship GV has to Joule.
>>570207515im illiterate
>>570206897>a complicated and messy situation>the badguys are a response to a bigger issue>heroes who refuse to understand the enemy or situation as anything but a simple good vs evil scenario>the main antagonist is sympathetic and has their heart in the right place, but uses bad methods>main antagonist is sees themselves as forced into a bad option>main antagonist is similar to GV in that they're being manipulated by others >pitiable antagonists treated the same as the genuinely evil ones>the heroes have messy morality, but are ultimately far more in the right>the heroes and villains engage in a cycle of violence that encourages one another to entrenchment/radicalization>both end game ends with heroes stating they will show no quarter to the enemy>the issue is resolved in a spectacularly violent and destructive way that sows the seeds of the next conflict>a lot of messed up stuff happens and nobody leaves happy>the underlying issues remains unsolved and things get worseNah, GV2 checks out. It actually leans harder into the dystopian themes than GV1.
>>570205970I'm on PC so that works for me, thanks bro
>>570208069see >>570207552you fucking homosexual
>>570207552Joule gets her revenge on Zonda by destroying her soul to prevent her from reincarnating with Mytyl and her.
>>570208251i dont care about that, I care about the fact that they cucked her to literal death and treated GV like hes just another fan that also needed to let joule go. He's literally her boyfriend, shes not his waifu they have an actual thing going on.
>>570207552>In the end, after the end of GV1, they treat him like hes a fucking fan who cant let joule/morpho go when hes actually the flesh and blood person who was part of her life, ripping her away from the only human connection she had, while simultaniously actually recreating the situation the entire game was condemning: Joule's septima being removed leading to these events, and then having it removed all over again.The fuck you talking about? It's Joule who can't let go. GV subconsciously considers Joule a curse and burden, and secretly wishes she would have "moved on." Joule is a reminder of all his failures, and having Joule with him nearly drove him mad until he met Quinn.
>>570208391>um ackshully goy joule is just a curse that GV wishes was gone, see, it says so right here in the sequels we made to your video game.
>>570207126>Who knows if they will correct it or not to be in line with the Japanese scriptAlright I'll explain.The Japanese name includes both Prison of Time (刻の牢獄) AND Time Clip (タイムクリップ).Part of the Japanese writing system is that sometimes kanji with an unclear reading is given overtext to show how it's supposed to be pronounced.This is furigana. You'll see it a lot in stuff mainly meant for children, but it's also used for other cases where the intended reading is genuinely ambiguous (can be the case with personal names) or too obscure even for many adults.So, in fiction they realized it would be cool to combine this system with foreign words, usually ones that are related to the kanji's meaning but also often not.So you get Azure Thunderclap < ARMED BLUE >, Cybernetic Singing Fairy < CYBER DIVA >, and now Prison of Time < TIME CLIP >. Tons of different series do this sort of thing.In Gunvolt they do this with more than just septima names too. Like Image Pulse in the Japanese version is something like Phantoms of the Past < IMAGE PULSE > (過去の幻影 (イマージュパル)), and there's song names like that as well.Because English doesn't have a furigana equivalent, the average localization will just use one name of some sort (there's at least one series with an official English version that tries to incorporate and distinguish both halves of names though).
Found it. It's from a Dengeki article:かつての師を倒して、復讐を果たした彼だったが、その事件をきっかけに仲間たちとは決別。さらに、シアンの魂―残留思念は、いついかなる時も彼から離れず、彼を束縛し続ける“呪い”ともいえる存在となって、彼の心を日ごとすり減らしていくのだったー。放浪の果て、彼は一般人の少女“オウか”の家に転がり込むことになる。献身的なオウカとの生活の中、シアンの呪いによって失いつつあった人間性を取り戻していくGV。能力者であり、国家転覆の一端を担うテロリストでもある自分に対し、何の躊躇もなく接してくれるオウかの優しさに触れた彼は、徐々に感化されていき、しだいに能力者と非能力者の共存の道を夢見るようになるそして、皇神を混乱に追いやったことで、日本の情勢を悪化させてしまったこという自責の念もあった彼は、平和を取り戻すべく、共存の道を閉ざすそうとする新たな敵“エデン”に立ち向かっていくのだった。 >After defeating his former mentor and exacting his revenge, he parted ways with his comrades.>Furthermore, Cyan’s soul—or rather, her lingering spirit—never left his side; it became a "curse" that bound him, slowly wearing down his spirit day by day.>After wandering aimlessly, he ended up staying at the home of a civilian girl named Ouka.>Living with the devoted Ouka, GV began to reclaim the humanity he had been losing to Cyan’s curse.>Touched by Ouka’s kindness—she treated him without hesitation, despite the fact that he was an Adept and a terrorist involved in a plot to overthrow the government—he was gradually influenced by her and began to dream of a future where Adepts and non-Adepts could coexist.>Driven also by a sense of guilt for having plunged the Sumeragi Group into chaos and destabilized the situation in Japan, he resolved to restore peace by eradicating "Eden," a new enemy intent on closing off the path to coexistence.
>>570208637Meant for >>570208524>>570208391
>>570208728see >>570208524
There's also cases where the furigana has nothing to do with the kanji at all.For example Zonda's septima-turned-octima in Japanese is Reverie Boundary < WONDERLAND > as is appropriate for an Alice incarnation.Too bad 8-4 went with Reverie Mirror in English instead of Reverie Wonderland.
>>570208637>a new enemy intent on closing off the path to coexistence.As Zonda would say, it was the nonadepts who closed off that path, not Eden. She's both wrong and right. It's not known if the world was already fucked and adepts were scapegoated, if the world was okay and then adepts fucked it up. The sources we have are somewhat biased. In any case, back in the early day, there were no adept groups causing issues, just fucked up individual adepts like the Raptor. These monsters, who were only a tiny number of overall adepts, spooked the nonadepts, who organized and targeted all adepts. Adepts then organized back, eventually forming groups like Eden as they became more radicalized by violence and oppression. Who is really at fault? You can't blame entire groups for the random acts of deranged individuals, but if there's clear organization and public will that certain ethnonational groups are broadly aligned with, it becomes a lot easier to say they're generally bad, which is what Eden does. It's not right, but you can see why they do it.
>>570208342Bro, everyone's waifu died. The only girl who made it out okay was Lola.>Quinnlol, she's nobody's waifu, in or out of universe. GV sisterzoned her too, which is where she belongs as she's implied to be his half-sister.
>>570209830>its okay if we make your media shit it was always going to be suffering anyway why do you care so much if we shit on art for a quick buck?see >>570206897
>>570209830>The only girl who made it out okay was Lola>
>>570209171It's 8-4. What do you expect? The entire script is screwed up, but Zonda sticks out like a sore thumb. Everything about her is wrong. I still don't get it though. Everyone else is like a caricature; you can squint and still see their outline, but Zonda is just a completely different person.In comparison, 8-4 treats Tenjian more sympathetically than INTI does. In their script, he's a loving brother being manipulated and radicalized by his sociopath sister and then sacrificed for her godhood aspirations. They downplay that he's the actual unofficial war chief of Eden.
>>570210510Is falling for Copen really that bad?
>>570210510I wonder if thay has to do with how popular she is compared to the other idols.
>>570185768Kids love edgy shit, it makes them feel more mature and more like an adult for liking it
>>570208524Interesting webm.
>>570229269>watermarking Luna's drillUnforgivable.
On a random silly note, I want Zonda to try to look imposing for a non-serious reason so I can immediately squish her face
>>570233780Be thankfull thay it wasn't the triple hitler watermark from the last year.
Haven't gotten around to trying it yet Was megaman w any good
>>570236874>practicing offline
>>570237634Gomen
>>570237634When it was it's turn?
So we are back to Xiaoposting? Or is INTI working on something else?
>>570184736>Oversurge! Wash away this sandstorm of rage! Send her to a desert tomb so she can join her friends!You just know he'd say something to that effect.
>>570240310They're probably announcing Gal Guardians 3 later this year
>>570203140"Time Clip" kind of implies altering timelines by cutting and pasting frames like editing a video.
>>570242526Or hard baited.
>>570243174They wouldn't design brand new characters and give a few old ones new design just for a magazine illustration. I don't even get why some of you faggots are so pessimistic over the most obvious teaser in the world.
>>570243972>They wouldn'tThere's alot "they wouldn't" but still did.
>>570242624>It'll probably all be because Nori gave the pendant to Xiao
>>570244192such as?
>>570243972What 2 disappointing entries and years of mostly mediocre or outright bad games does to a bunch of autists obsessed with an almost 10 years old game.
>>570238689presumificably, next week
>>570234904Treating Cyan like a mere toy... I won't show you any mercy! Surge forth, Azure Striker! Shatter her hollow pretenses—mirror and all!
>>570192278>>570206232>>570191281fyi having multiple timestamps doesn't work because youtube will ignore the timestamp and skip to where you last left off. basically, the first link you click will be the only valid link unless you open a private window. so paste the times next time too. yes, it is very dumb
>>570192278>>570148892Could be from a bad end, but doubt it. Tai/Tsuda true ends are usually 90% as sad as the bad ends. And if it's like GV2, the final levels will be pumped full of depressing stuff no matter what happens. It'll probably will be another GV2 esque ending where you kill a bunch of antivillains and then get a really depressing ending for GV to cap it off. Since Tai was "surprised" with how happy GV3 turned out, maybe we can expect most of the Dragon Saviors and ATEMS to die too if they show up, but it'd probably be less impactful because it wouldn't have been Gunvolt killing them and patting himself on the back for it (and outside maybe one or two of them, they don't have an iota of the charm of the cast from older games).
>>570244626ix2's DLC mess
>>570242526Lame. Honestly I do wish it's just art that means nothing, SotD just got rid of any desire for future games in the series.
>>570238689We might not have anything for this Saturday so...
>>570245762The ryona fetishist in me really wants to see what kinda face Zonda made once she realized she's completely fucked. The good ol' "I'm dead" visage.
>>570251550The only kind of pain I want Zonda to be experiencing is one that she can derive masochistic pleasure from, personally
>>570247447>Since Tai was "surprised" with how happy GV3 turned outWhere did he say that?
>>570146246
>the bait pic
>>570251550I've seen ryona/death art of all the enemy girls except Zonda. The best you'll get are the in-game anims like >>570197059 or my webm.
>>570251550A shitty old GV/MM fanfic for you:>Clad in something that vaguely resembles a small amount of armour and exposes her stomach along with constructs that appear to be jet engines draping her sides, Zonda now possesses a pair of enormous, demonic wings that resemble a suit of cards, in this case, it's pink colored heart-shaped wings. This is Zonda's final form, Reverie Zonda.>"What in the world is that?!" X exclaimed in horror at Zonda's new form.>"That has got to be the most ugly fairy I've ever seen." Zero added.---->"How could this happen..." Zonda spoke with fear in her voice. "Our utopia... our paradise! But we fused! The Muse and I, we were... compatible...!">"Maybe you were... But she's still a person, Zonda. Not a thing. And she'd rather die than help someone as disgusting as you!" Gunvolt answered.>"I hope you're ready to join the rest of your fake family in hell, Zonda. We don't show monsters mercy." Zero declared as with a smirk.--->The assault from X and Gunvolt tore apart Zonda's wings and armour and broke her spine. And then for the finishing touch, Copen and and Zero jumped towards Zonda as she was falling and delivered a left and right diagonal slash, cutting off her right arm and leaving behind a big bloody 'X' mark on her chest.>The attack left Zonda screaming in agony and lay powerless and defeated on the ground.>Gunvolt took one last look at the downed Oracle of Eden, and turned around and nodded to X and declared, "Let's finish this.">X threw Gunvolt high into the air and Gunvolt created a huge electrical energy blade from his right hand.>"Oversurge, Azure Striker! Grand Strizer!">Gunvolt rapidly fell towards Zonda while he yelled, shoved the large energy blade onto the bloody 'X' marked chest area, piercing though her body and cleaving her in half. A huge spray of blood and entrails covered Gunvolt in red. Zonda's remaining arm stretching up at Gunvolt fell limp. Zero gave Gunvolt a thumbs up and said...
>>570256151>>570251550She dies in this, but you don't really see much.
>>570257727At least Zero and GV are in character.
Being a Zondafag must be rough knowing that your girl doesn't have a GalGun ancestor like Elise or Gibril to cope date. It'll be rougher when she doesn't appear yet again because they don't want to hire Kaori, or they bring her back just to have you kill her again for the edge in GX.
>>570259919What if they bring her back only for her to hijack the entire story and be the main character of GV4
>>570260195Her only ticket into main character-dom is as a muse to Xiao, and we all know that if they are using Xiao, and they want him to have a Cyber Idol, they'll make up a brand new 130 cm to partner him with, because that's easiest. Or if they're feeling really cheap, Xiao would just copy or steal Lumen and use some Image Pulse type bullshit to explain why he doesn't need a 130 cm.
>>570258868Cyan isn't the Cyber Diva.
>>570261089She is pretty much made from the part of Mytyl's soul that was, that's close enough.
>>570259919I don't want to cope date Elise's maybe mom, I want Elise.
>>570243972>>570244708The Japanese are pretty hopeful. It's really only us who are super doomer. Pessimism is a good shield against disappointment though. Although, looking at some of the other generals, they stuck by their shit devs far longer and through far worse. Like it took nearly a decade of bad releases and predatory practices for the Bethesdafags to turn against Bethesda, and Bethesda trolled their fandom far worse than INTI does. And if we want to compare ourselves to fellow weebshit, it took years as well to turn Pokemonfags into cynics. Final Fantasyfags still love and hype their series despite the absolute mess it is and the dissapointment of the last two games.
>>570261561Nah, she's just a test tube baby implanted with Mytyl's septima.
>>570261814It's because of Capcom. That's all. We are very sensitive to disappointment. A dev has a disappointing year, IT'S THE END. Other communities shrug and say "they'll learn their lesson" or "they'll get it together" on the first couple of mistakes. We exhausted all of our copes on Capcom, and have none to give to INTI.
>>570262357>has a disappointing year>aIt's been more than one. >We exhausted all of our copes on Capcom, and have none to give to INTI.>literally tried giving the copes to Inti the last 2-3 years
>>570253773I don't think Inti has it in them to make a GalGun 3. Even if they were to actually go through with it it'd be so tame and insipid that it'd be pointless and I think they know it.
>>570263047>tried giving the copes to Inti the last 2-3 yearsEventually your Copes hit [Empty].
Meanwhile I liked iX2 more than any of the GV games or Majogami
>>570263047No we didn't. As soon as GV3 and ix2 hit, we said it was over for them. Gal Guardians 2 just further put the nail in the coffin.
>>570248324Zuzu is the only thing that people remembered about that game ouside of here, isn't it.
>>570263424The anon too based for this general
We're know you do, Tai.
>>570261814Sonic has been shit non stop for 32 years and them Sonicscum still lord Sega to no end.
>>570263872Suzu, I really liked Lysa personally, the maid on maid violence, and yeah that's it. Wholly forgettable experience.Foe a game that has trees of gored bodies and Masha going on about how beautiful mutilated frozen carcasses are there sure was a whole lot of nothing.
>>570263095>This is as close as we will get to Zonda on a golden bikini
>>570263837>we saidYou didn't say shit.
>>570264207Because it should have not been pixel art to make said violece hit. This isn't 1992 anymore.
>>570263906Lemme add another point to this actually, for me iX2 is better than any of the Zero games and ZX Advent, maybe ZX too
>>570264756Truly? I don't believe it. Does anyone give a shit about the gore in mortal kombat? No.They get upset at the pixelated triangles of Manhunt.
What do you think Zonda's favorite "alternative" method of sex is?
>>570203140What could the boss have spoiled? We already saw the fight in prior streams. There should be no new dialog, as B.B.'s voice actor is retired. Could it be new attack patterns? Tsuda said that this was a different build than the demo, but I think they'd want to show that off. I'm trying to think of a good reason for why they didn't play the boss, as that's the best part of the level usually.
>>570264593Sad isn't it?
Is Elise still our divegrass mascot?
Luluka has a big forehead.She should be bullied about that.
>>570265857Like, Yai big or Pallette big?
>>570264593You've got Zonda in lingerie and a bikini in official art.
>>570266194>golden bikini
>>570266052Ook ook
>>570266194Imagine smug Zonda naizuri
>>570264762HOLY FUARK
>>570267139I'm not just saying this for the sake of a reaction by the way, I love Copen's dash mechanics but for me how he plays in GV2/iX1 makes it reach the point that normal platforming is basically redundant, which limits the level design a lot; iX2 gives the best of both worlds in my eyes
>>570265710I wonder how much the Daibugrass team would change? Would the Mega Man part be as dominant?
Will Gunvolt GX be the first Gunvolt free of even the whiff of romance? The only girls we've seen so far are Lumen and iX Lola, and even if they were interested, they literally can't. I just can't imagine Gunvolt without the horny and romance bait (that goes nowhere). It's more integral to the tone than the grimdark.
>>570268602>add more /inti/ to daibugrass team>start jobbing harder
>>570268602>Replying to yourself in an attempt to start a conversationEmbarrassing
>>570268765You got two bishies yelling each other's names with passion, dontcha? A classic defiant tsundere and a patient repentant gentleman?We'll circle back around to Joule again and get Cyanotype II.
>>570261862Yes, and septima is linked to the soul, which is formed upon birth in asian reincarnation beliefa hence why Mytyl was having shared experiences with Cyan on dreams.
>>570268765Back when I thought this was going to be a smaller game without home conversations, I assumed that it'd just be Copen, GV, and their muses. Now that they're talking like it'll have at least as much if not more story content than GV3, I believe there's an over 50% chance they add some more girls to the party. Copen and GV are both silent, serious, and mature types. They're straight men, and I don't mean in the sexual way. When they talk, it's terse and professional. They only get flowery when pissed. They need somebody to contrast against, or they'll have very boring conversations. Lumen is also a silent type. That leaves iX Lola as the only talker, but she's mostly concerned about her combat capabilities when paired with Copen. She doesn't have many hobbies, interests, or background outside of fighting by Copen's side. She's not the main line version, with the romance angle and the dream of being a real girl. Basically, they need an outsider to poke them, or all you'll get is mission and combat talk. Something like:>Copen: Modified my equipment. >GV: Hmm...>Copen: It should be capable of performing with 2.78% more efficiency.>Lola: Wow boss, that's AMAZING!Moving on, Joule has a good shot of being around. Alas, she's INTI's whipping girl, so perhaps something terrible has befallen her, again. Assuming that Tai doesn't completely throw away GV3's themes, one of the enemy girls has a good chance of being a harem member. Mytyl would be weird because iX, but it'd be cool. Quinn would only be cool if you had her contrasting an Eden member (either girl or boy). It's GV's game, so I don't think iX would get a lot of thirst directed his way.
>>570261814Because those developers actually delivered good stuff for far longer than Inti did with GV games.
>>570271069Still not even her septima.
>>570270318Copen Kamizono, known famously as The Luminous Avenger, stepped into the shower, sliding its door closed behind him. The hot water faucet squeeked as he turned it. He swayed his body sensually left and right under the gentle steamy spray as it rinsed the soapy suds from his skin.The door suddenly slid open, but the Luminous Avenger didn't turn to look. He knew exactly who it was."Figured it was only a matter of time," He said. It was his trusty Adept partner Gunvolt who stepped into the shower with him and shut the door again.Copen could then feel something stiff and hot press against the rear of his thigh, "I warned you to never point a weapon at me." Copen said cooly.Gunvolt slowly lifted his head above Copen's shoulder, grazing his chin against the side of Copen's head."You afraid I'll shoot?" Gunvolt replied."That depends," said Copen, "What kind of shooting are we talking about here?"Gunvolt smiled as convincingly as his stupid adept face would allow. "White hot plasma," he whispered, "The best kind."Copen could suddenly feel Gunvolt's EM accelerator gun charging with a force he'd never felt in all his years of experience fighting against the Sumeragi Institute of Human Evolution, and he'd find himself in some incredibly sticky situations.He then felt Gunvolt press the pulsating weapon against his lower back. Copen quickly reached behind him, grabbed the hot quivering barrel of Gunvolt's pistol and knew right away it wouldn't be able to hold all that plasma for long.Copen turned his head, casting a smirk. "Better take your shot."
>>570271549>Because those developers actually delivered good stuff for far longer>gamefreak
>>570271885In the same way that Asimov, GV or Blade's aren't Azure Strikers or Nova isn't actually a Psychokinesis user.
>>570272079I didn't feel like the professional slop consoomers were worth considering.
>>570272173Yes.
>>570271364Unironically, Zonda being part of the core cast would be an amazing addition for this
>>570272331Fair enough.
>>570271364>implying there'll be any girls when GV3 was a sausage partyThis dlc alone will revive Momo's inner fujo.
>>570272621Yes anon, they're going to add yet another expensive VA from a dead character to the pile on this update made only because the CEO fucked up when making a trailer.
>>570272908There was because of ATEMs. ZED was designed first. They wanted him to have a harem. Then they thought, why don't we have a reverse harem for Kirin.
>>570273234I mean a permanent addition to the main roster, Zonda is the cutest, hottest and overall best thing in general to come out of this franchise and she needs to be in more of the series
>>570273470She's already a permanent addition to the main obituary roster.
>>570273257Now Gunvolt will have a harem of boys.
>>570273234Time loop, death is irrelevant.
>>570272621As far as the enemy girls, Zonda or Gibril would be equally amazing characters to have in your group. Desna would be next, followed by Elise. It's hard with Elise because we never get a feel for how she really interacts with others like Zonda/Gibril/Desna do. She seemed like a normal, likable girl around Merak until her other side came out and then it was just emo femdom murder.
>>570273860based loopbelieverdespairtards on suicide watch when gunvolt takes on a proper hero run, and purges the world of their edgeslop
>>570273234I don't understand why they're making it a "full game" instead of a half game like ATEMs. I welcome it, but why if it's just to save CEO face? Also, everyone has already forgotten about the Connect iX debacle. If they just made another GV game, and it was good, we'd move on.
>>570273257No the idea of the first wave of bosses being all boys and the second wave being all girls came first, THEN they decided to make harems
>>570271549Oh really now? The gacha generals? Hell you may add the fighting game generals there too.
>>570274180Because the idea is to try and cover every complaint possible with the least amount of effort possible. All you really need is write more inconsequential banter between iX Cope, GV, Lola and GV to make it a "full game" which is not hard if Tai literally has nothing to do anymore but write since he was revoked custody of his spinoff series.
>>570251550In your opinion, which female boss has the cutest/sexiest pain grunts?
>>570274180Because GV3 is still The Final Act and is referred to as such. GX is to simultaneously fulfill the fan requested dream of GV & Cope fighting side by side, and to conclude the series in a way that feels conclusive.
>>570271069>and septima is linked to the soul>blacks can't seem to be able to get itWhat did INTI meant with this?
>>570274853>Lola and GVMeant Lumen at the end.
>>570274903To me, Zonda has the cutest and sexiest everything, and I want the only forms of pain that she experiences to be ones she gains masochistic arousal from
>>570275010Wasn't the Hydro Pressure nigger in Justice Rage a thing?
>>570275010This retardation again when one of the adepts Daytona fights is black.
>>570274924Prediction: Gunvolt will sacrifice himself at the end of GX to revive literally everyone somehow; this results in an entire new timeline where several previously villainous adepts work as protectors to prevent anything like Asimov's plan from ever happening after being moved by Gunvolt's nobility
>>570275059https://youtu.be/LKCNCk9cz2I?t=9https://youtu.be/LKCNCk9cz2I?t=64
>>570274768>fightan
>>570275351I think there will be multiple endings, at least 3.
>>570275298>>570275348>expecting Mexicano not to self-hate
>>570274768>>570275435
>>570275298>>570275348Retconned out of the story once the rules were explained. Like Star Platinum wondering the whole town on episode 1.
>>570275435Sir we only care about President Mori... andthe big butt squid.
>>570273257GRAZIE SEXO
>>570275298That's not black. Anime makes it very clear when a character is black from the nose and the lips.
>>570276208Anon NOOOOOOOO! If she eats like a pig now, imagine when she has an excuse to eat a lot.
>>570276171>andthe big butt squidShe doesn't have a big butt. She had bare back. Bijou is the one with a big butt. Even sent the squid flying.
>>570275720It's just fucking dumb. Most adepts are people from that area. The game is set in Japan. Ergo most adepts, most characters, are gonna be Japanese.It's like going to Puebla and saying Finnish people don't exist because you haven't seen any over there ever.
Here's your Rocman news for Rockman day. Never ask for anything again.
>>570276794Adepts get pulled from all over including the US. You have a self-hating retard make bullshit up (again).
>>570276171busy watching nintendo directs
>>570276793>Rock can push bigger object due to sheer weigth and density
>>570276394>Nessa>BeaCome on now.
>>570277292>bigger
>>>/vt/
>>570276794And septima does change people into whatever the fuck it wants. See Shion.>>570277280Who watches a direct at the horse racecourse?
>>570277423Lenora and Ryme are the real blacks and they both have the lips.
It is a day that ends in y when I open this general and I get greeted with butt pics.
>>570277980They're only some of the blacks. Cope.
>>570277497Still waiting on https://www.capcom.co.jp/amusement/capcom-hololive-2026/
>>570185768Gunvolt reminded me a bit of this, which is also marketed towards 10-year-olds. Hot evil crazy girl had some sympathetic traits, especially compared to her team members. For instance, she's against killing those who can't fight back, fought one of her comrades when he killed a guy for no reason, killed a psychotic teammate for being too evil, is disgusted by the evil noble who her team is currently serving, and had a messed up backstory where she was entrusted with protecting her village as a child, but failed and saw everyone die, then was tortured and blinded by the church, before being rescued and taken in by her team leader, who raised her to be an assassin. And she gets killed by the main character like any other scum he's fought up to that point and quickly forgotten about, despite the story making parallels between her and the heroine. For an added bonus, her entire team gets killed, but the evil noble just gets arrested at the end, and in the LN, gets let go because they cut a deal with him.I don't know how popular these types of stories are, as this was canned after 20 chapters, and a lot of its themes and characters were rebooted into another series by the same mangaka that was a lot "nicer," and that's past chapter 100. Actually, most of that mangakas mangas were very edgy like one involved an adult hero smirking as she murdered a brainwashed actual loli in a gory way, like entrails coming out and all, and evil cannibal schoolgirls, but his breakthrough was the least edgy one.
>>570276818This is why we hate inti.>>570277423Better example is pic related.
>>570278719Edgy is a wierd selling point. Like you can go as far as you like on a certain directions but you can't even look at others. It's how things like Rick and Morty and The Boys despite fancing themselves as the peak of edgy can't allow evey the villians to say Nigger or to show a rape(on a female). But Goblin Slayer and Gushing Over Magical Girls despite not being seen as edgy have caused more outrage because they do and without much fanfare.
>>570278935>The character that was changed at the last minute so that people would not get offended over her owning slaves.Suuuure.
At this point it just sounds like the faggot trying to talk shit about blacks is hard coping that he's wrong like always.
>>570279373I think for edgy characters to appear as if they aren't a joke it has to be genuine. Like the creator MUST think that this character is unironically the coolest shit of all time and it cannot be ironic.Take Jack from Stranger of Paradise where people absolutely LOVES this edgy bloke, and everyone at Team Ninja and Squeenix were genuinely confused as to why people found him so fucking funny.
>>570279373With Goblin Slayer, the edge is front loaded. It's pretty standard after that. Furthermore, there's a difference between edge committed by the hero vs edge committed by the villain, and there's edge that is tongue-in-cheek vs edge played seriously.
>>570276818>amaZXing bundleInti marketing just got BTFO.
>>570280889>just
>>570273234Yeah, that's the main argument against bringing back anybody with a VA whose made it big. How expensive is Kaori nowadays, anyway? Her last big role was Kycilia in GQX. I know she does some work with indy games that are about on the same level as what INTI produces, yet true Zonda was conspicuously absent in the rematches for GV3. In any case, while they might consider her for a new game, like iX, it's probably too expensive for an expansion.
>>570277423>Nessa>BeaOkinawans. You want an actual example, there's Lenora.
>>570276171You know inti fucked up majorly when they couldn't even bait ol' Gigi
>>570281306Not that big these days, the GV3 abscense could've been just scheduling conflicts with BNHA or something like that, I don't know if the invisible girl showed up much during the season that aired in 2022.
>>570265662>What could the boss have spoiled?New enemy muse, boss being altered, attack patterns are spoilers, defeating the boss is a spoiler (doesn't leave behind B.B. but something else or nothing), etc.
>>570281306>the reason they haven't brought back Ekoro is because she's voiced by Yui HorieKaito Ishikawa and Yuma Uchida are both A rank VAs. I don't think Seiyuu money is the issue when they can keep throwing cash into Mayu's music videos.I think it's as simple as Inti not having the same dumb ideas that we do.
>>570283061I think VA bucks do pile up, Aizu noted GV3 costing a shitload of money compared to older entries and really the only notable big spender is the use of established VAs for the ATEMS cast plus Kaito compared to the literal who lineup for most of the old games' casts.
>>570273234>only because the CEO fucked up when making a trailer.That was Connect iX, Gunvolt GX is a separate thing.
>>570283546They said GX was made due to complaints about CiX not having story content, so basically a save face for the save face.
>>570281306GQX was a hit, but by Gundam standards, it was a B list series. 12 episodes is nothing. Kycilia doesn't even become a major character until the last quarter. And in mecha, the main villain, especially when they arent a mecha pilot, isn't a big deal compared to the rival. If she voiced one of the main characters, that would be something. If she was the villain in a 24+ episode Gundam, that would be something, but as it stands, it's not an impressive role compared to the high point of her career.
>>570283282Aizu also said he should've stepped in earlier and not allowed GV3 to take 4 years to develop, and something about Tsuda not caring about costs.
>>570283896Most of those 4 years were spent with Tsuda and Inafune doing>nothingAnd very likely with a skeleton crew until gameplay took shape so I doubt most of the costs piled up for that extended period unless they unironically spent that long with a bigger crew sitting around doing nothing for years.
>>570275351Good guess. I don't think INTI will lock themselves out of the franchise by permakilling Gunvolt. That might be the purpose of Luxia's parallel storyline. She's seeking out her Gunvolt/Lumen to give them something important, and that might be what is necessary for the happy ending. There's also the Azure Spirit Kirin has. So INTI's left themselves some wiggle room if they want to do more. But I believe there will be a conclusion such that, unless they decide to continue on, GV will be dead/gone.
>>570283869>Gundam GQX>Gunvolt GXKaori's time to shine as the pink-purple villainess she was meant to be.
>>570284341It was actually uncertainty about the knotty miko who halted development for years on end, and then a functional development reboot.An entire series was made to buy the GV3 team more time.
>>570285680Yes, about gameplay because apparently 2 people with plenty of action game experience can't come up with anime teleport slash for a tag mechanic even if you give them 3 years of only trying to come up with something.
>>570148892How do you say irony in Arabic?
>>570283061>they can keep throwing cash into Mayu's>keep throwing cashNow you know why Inti's flat broke and fucking up so much.
>>570286217Are Mayu's MVs really that expensive?
>>570286000Inti is consistent at being inconsistent. They also forgot everything they learned about 2d action games from their MMZ days when they made iX2.
>>570286768At least iX2 was being made by a guy that wasn't for the MMZ/ZX era, in fact, it's probably the reason why Tsuda lamented not being able to help with that game when he played it on stream afterwards.
>>570278719Unironically love it when a sexy villainess with a sad past and lots of good traits that makes it look like she can be pulled over to the good guys just gets murdered with no regrets like any other monstrous looking evil-loving psychopath by the hero. That's the sort of edginess I wish we saw more of. One, it's cool. Two, I have a fetish for strong evil women with sympathetic traits being hurt and made vulnerable, then killed by an uncaring heroic protagonist. It's especially hot if they try to reach out for help and the protagonist slaps them away. Don't judge me you faggots. You let roombafuckers and lolicons rule this thread.
>>570286768Wasn't iX2's problem that it was rushed to release?
>>570287057He certainly seemed nostalgic for the MMZ era seeing as he just did the whole Neo Arcadia thing again.
>>570277672So if I got a Septima like Elise's embedded in me would I get turned into a sexy poledancer with nice tits
>>570286571No but Inti doesn't have that money anyway.
Since they've already visited the human and demon world, is Gal Guardians 3 going to be dealing with heaven?
>>570287378Rushed like hell, and it was also forced to bear the burden for all those crossover collabs that was meant for GV3 which didn't help things. It also lacked polish and vision.The fun part is how they manage to ruin both Gunvolt series comprehensively and simultaneously, and all in the wake of how well the BMZ trilogy was handled.
>>570288140Iirc the guy in charge of Gal Guardians hates angels so no.
>>570287575No because you are a dude. You have 95% chance to become a Shonen Jump character with a 5% chance for a missfire that turns you into a femboi.
>>57028852599% chance he just dies as he didn't specify if he'd be compatible and we know how well injecting randoms with septima goes.
>>570288140I didn't realize unti GG that the reason so many evil or dark characters in INTI games had this dress cut was because it was meant to represent "demon wings."
>>570288185The worst part of it all is that we would've probably been spared both the shitshow and the susequent and ongoing doomium spree if iX2 hadn't been made, as that would've left Tai on the GV3 team so he could oppose the biggest outliers of Tsuda's retardation and probably would've given us a non shit third act.
>>570289067>implying you still wouldn't have gotten the shitshow anyway unless someone outside Inti tard-wrangled them
>>570288851>angel curls>pink>obsessed with love>hearts everywhere>two toned hair>demon wing design>talons>fake designs have hornsIs Zonda closer to being an angel or demon?
>>570289272Maybe, maybe not, the fact remains the main writer was away when he was needed most making a game that didn't really play to any of his strengths as he's never been good with gameplay to begin with, which is why he got evicted from directing iX for the third game.
>>570289067>GV guilt trip for killing monsters like Nova/Zonda who deserved to suffer>Moebius out of no where>ZED being easily forgiven instead of killed like he should>Baby Gunvolt being sent back in timeWhat was the most retarded thing for you?
>>570288735Necromancy does not seem like the type of septima thay can even be moved around. Nothing outside of the Azure Striker, Telekinesis and The Muse seem to be.
>>570289348She was the champion of the stars. Of course she's an angel.
>>570289795Was. Then she lost the title.
>>570289561>GV guilt trip for killing monsters like Nova/Zonda who deserved to sufferThe guilt trip sucked because it was ineffective, it's supposed to manifest regrets yet at no point does Serpentine pull any of the big guns directly (Joule, Asimov), Moebius does.>Moebius out of no wherePretty high on the list>ZED being easily forgiven instead of killed like he shouldI don't like Zed all that much but this wasn't a problem, being retarded and nuking the room with the baby they're explicitly trying not to wake up was.>Baby Gunvolt being sent back in timeThis is probably the worst offender of the ones you mentioned (though probably because it was paired with Moebius), especially because it's just a Choujin Locke reference being shoved out of nowhere.Biggest retardation by far is having a notMuse in the game and picrel never showing up despite the previous game ending with him stealing the actual Muse.
>>570289795But Gunvolt is also an angel.
>>570290258Pretty sure Desna called him something else.
>>570290365Can't trust the hair-brained.
>>570290365Well what you expect from somebody that plays her cards wrong despite knowing the future.
>>570290238Considering how Asimov killed Joule for literally no reason, and then the entire DLC battle where Asimov is the only guy in the entire game they kill, does he really feel that much regret? He probably feels more regret for Zonda since that was the last person he killed, and how fucked the entire situation was, or Nova, since he ended up being kind of right, even if his solution was bad.
>>570290365Nah it sticks. The angels are adept at fucking things up.
>>570290564I didn't mean that he regretted killing Asimov, the Firmament scene itself is literally his recurring nightmare so if you're trying to rattle GV just showing that again or using a fake Joule to try and make him and Kirin lower their guard works better than just having clones of random people he met once or twice spout some bullshit.
>>570290564>Considering how Asimov killed Joule for literally no reason, and then the entire DLC battle where Asimov is the only guy in the entire game they kill,To us, Asimov is a monster. To GV, he's father. He feels way more sympathy for Asimov than any of the sob story adepts.>ZondaHe felt good about killing her. He feels good when ever he gets revenge. He enjoyed watching her die because she wasn't a creepy little girl deluded by her bro and seeing unimaginable suffering, but a a demonic monster who wanted to kill nonadepts out of pure hate and took Joule away. She deserved to suffer in his eyes.>NovaHe hated this guy more than anyone else just on personality. Nova did the sanctimonious act back at Gunvolt and he couldn't stand it. Nova represented everything wrong with Sumeragi to Gunvolt, and he took Joule from him. He was happy to kill Nova and has zero regrets. He spits on Nova's corpse and hopes he's suffering in hell.GV3 retcons the above, but GV is as spiteful as Copen is, even if he dresses it up in hero talk about good and evil and punishment. And many times, his enemies deserve it. They are wrong and bad, but Gunvolt goes a little overboard with it and enjoys killing them when he should show some respect.
>>570291412It's realistic. You vilify your enemy to make it easier to kill. Zonda and Nova are evil, but they aren't literal Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. They still needed to die, but it's disturbing to see someone not moved by killing in such contexts.
>people will read this and think that Gunvolt isn't an unreliable narrator
>>570288525The latter is a fate worse than death so I think I'll pass on that risk
>>570291694Nova is about as evil as Gunvolt, and Zonda is less evil than Copen, it's just they have different degrees of power. Ask yourself what happens if you swapped their positions around.
>>570292527>implying Gunvolt's wrong
>>570292774We get a better franchise, because that means the perfection that is Zonda is the lead
>>570291412Gunvolt isn't spiteful.
>>570293267Both GV1 and GV2 have GV saying no mercy in the final levels, though GV2 has him backtrack on that midway through and say no mercy only for Zonda and the G7.
>>570293468I guess a better man would say justice instead of revenge, but it's still hard to condemn GV since Asimov really deserved it.
>>570292774Fuck that. Kill'em adepts and tell Copen he's a shitter.
>>570293647He then kind of regrets the whole stance he took there, the description for Tenjian's level goes:>The avenging absolute zero pushes the warriors unto ahead… >Revenge is but a momentary passion’s soothing… >And they also are the thunders (words) you sent to yourself and to them… And when Copen tries to kill him for the whole Mytyl being dead thing he says killing him will not help him because he's been there as well.
>>570294132Weird thing to say because he just got vengeance when he killed Zonda a moment ago, and he got a lot of release and closure from that.
>>570294872Yeah this are clearly the words from a man that feels release and closure about that. All he did was stop a genocide but gained fuck all from it personally due to the order of events.
>>570295287>Gunvolt: Treating Cyan like a mere toy... I won't show you any mercy! Surge forth, Azure Striker! Shatter her hollow pretenses—mirror and all!---->Gunvolt: Maybe it was compatible with you for all I know…But the Cybernetic Singing Fairy (Cyber Diva)… Cyan… Isn’t a “thing.” And she'd never do anything to help a person like you!
>>570291694>but they aren't literal Hitler and StalinHe's a hue anon. To him they were like that argentinian soccer team everybody on argentina likes and Jair Adeptonaro.
Now that I think about it, Zonda's defeat stands out as the most lame one in the franchise, and one of the most lame INTI villain deaths ever. Every other villain gets a post-battle conversation or monologue. It condenses who they are and acts as a sort of summary of their ideals and story. Usually, the final villain's last words will leave a lasting impact upon the main character's psyche, and ideals may shift or regrets exchanged. The villain's last words are a moment of catharsis in Gunvolt games.Zonda gets absolutely nothing but a single line in GV's route that states nothing but her surprise. She doesn't even talk to Copen after he beats her. Then a short line as she explodes about how she failed to create utopia for her brother and everyone else.The other thing is that she's never brought up again after dying. Nova, Asimov, and Mother are, but Zonda completely disappears. Even minor characters are sometimes brought up again, like Elise. But for Zonda, it's like she never existed. You only see her fake form, which is a caricature of her. It is extremely lame, and I think that's the main reason I find her death unsatisfying.Why was this the case? Did they just run out of time, or did they feel the lack of closure and catharsis matched the tone of "desolation" GV2 was aiming for?
>>570298740The late part of GV2 just feels rushed all around if I'm being honest, the boss after Zonda is probably the worst in the entire franchise unless you're counting memes like fake Glaive Tenjian.
>>570298740It is bizarre how Zonda immediately dies after the fight. >>570299010Even the iX2 rush job had more with Mother.
>>570296773>misquoting on purposeTry again you disingenuous faggot.
>>570298740It's almost like Zonda isn't the true mastermind behind what happens to the protagonists in GV2. If only there was a showdown with the mysterious person who might have manipulated both them and her to that depressing conclusion...>Did they just run out of timeMaybe that too since the release date picked was very tight and the team was half-dead at the end. They couldn't fully finish the OST at least.
>>570298740>But for Zonda, it's like she never existed>soul erased>thinking she still exists
>>570299665>>570299010>>570298740It doesn't take that much time to write dialogue and record it compared to level design. It was intentional.
>>570299892GV1 had a whole epilogue scene cut because they just couldn't include it in the game in timeDon't underestimate the power of deadlines
>>570298740Because it would be pouring more salt on the fact that they made Luluka before Precure did.
>>570299010>>570298740I always thought the Beladen section was supposed to be an unfulfilling slog that punches you in the feels over and over. If it was too fun, it'd detract from the despair. Hence the samey corridors filled with repetitive encounters against enemies who grimly talk about how they're dying to buy time for Zonda and the noncombatants. Zonda not getting any dialogue after her battle is meant to deny you your emotional release for killing a weird, but sympathetic girl who loved and was loved by others. It also makes GV and Copen come off as more cold. You are drawn taut all the way till the end, where they fake you out with a fake "happy" ending where Mytyl slowly forgets Gunvolt and Copen and is blissful in her ignorance. It's a horrible feeling, and it's why we all love GV2.>>570299665AI?
>>570300852>it's bad on purpose so it's good!First of all fuck you and fuck pretentious design like this. I don't think they did that on purpose though I believe they were just very constrained and having MN9 in the same year flopping put a lot of pressure on releasing ir for the deadline instead of delaying it.
>>570300053It's still strange that they couldn't have given her a few extra lines of dialog, especially with how much you've learned about her and talked to her throughout the final level beforehand. The final lines of a villain are the most important lines of a villain in these games.
>>570298740What would GV or Cope even say to Zonda? Maybe they did have dialog written and even recorded, but it made them come off as too assholish considering the target, so they removed it. Remember that GV had >>570293468 to say to the last person who hurt Joule. I think he would have been mocking Zonda. And Copen would have too since he promised Tenjian to make her death agonizing.
>>570300852>AI?That Xiao is from a trilogy store bonus tapestry.The only one on Team GV depicted in a good mood.
>>570302451>Joule is super cute>Didn't know Mytyl was allowed outside like that>Nova looking wonderfully fabulous>Zonda being the creepiest thing thereBut where the hell is Xiao? That doesn't look like Quinn's house.
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>>570302451I love how out of place Kirin looks in any of those posters where she shares the spotlight with Gunvolt and Copen.
>>570305348Kirin shouldn't exist. The idea of a merciful character shouldn't exist. Only villains should show mercy, and then GV or Copen use that weakness to destroy them.
I'm not around saturday, so frimelt will truly be 6hr45min (hopefully, don't dick around in stages)
>>570305348If you incorporate Zed, she doesn't look that off. And if you look at the characters overall, even in the original two games, she'd fit.
>>570306389Funny reminder of how portable Zonda is
Found out that despite the sprites looking like they're knocked out, they're actually dead in Mighty Gunvolt. Isn't that a bit OOC for Beck and Ekoro?
>>570308152They're fiiiine.
>>570307760More like how yeetable she is
>>570308152Doesn't the game basically tell you it's all non-canon in the end anyway
>>570306368By the way you might want to check some aces that could have text spacing issues, also the menu text on the moon isn't translated.
>>570309317>Despite Zonda's having effortlessly laid waste>to Copen, who had snuck into Sumeragi>in order to put a stop to her schemes, the>plan to find the next Diva, and use her to>fill the world with the greatest of love, would>soon be shattered... >We still wonder what the true aim of the "plan">was, but with Zonda dead, we'll never know for sure.>All things considered, it's hard to tell if even>this world itself was real to begin with.>For all we know, this all could've been just>another one of Zonda's illusions... Think that's the implication. They're all trapped in Zonda's mirror world and don't know what she was trying to do with the doki doki field and the muse.
>>570310254thanks
>>570310372How would the doki doki field enhance her kill all human plans?
>>570306389She looks too fantasy and too little tech based.
>>570309317Yes. But it adds one more to the Elise death-metter.
>>570307760She's a mobile little fella. >>570308152How can you tell?
>>570299591Isn't he using bits of the 8-4 translation? It's probably not that far off, especially with how mad GV is. Anons are right that that final conversation was a huge letdown. It was the worst defeat dialogue in all the Gunvolt games by a huge margin.
>>570312764I want to fuck Zonda and then give her a smoothie, why is she so goddamn cute
>>570312878>Anons are right that that final conversation was a huge letdown. It was the worst defeat dialogue in all the Gunvolt games by a huge margin.Joule means the world to Gunvolt. He doesn't care about any ideals so of course the final conversation is going to be about Joule. He's not going to comfort Zonda any or talk about how he'll make a world that's safe for adepts and nonadepts because screw her. She can die in shit for everything she's done to him, Joule, and Japan. He felt epicaricacy from the revenge he got seeing her cry out in pain and despair for her brother like he felt when breaking Nova. Copen feels the same about Zonda. He said he's going torture Zonda before he sends her to hell earlier to Tenjian when he said that Zonda is like his Mytyl. They are edgy boys, but they are saving the world, so we love them for it.
>>570313676This is why Joule and GV are the best pairing in Gunvolt.
>>570305276>>570302451This is a great poster, but it's very bittersweet.
>>570302451If you wish to see a proper game with art AI, the new Rayman has a lot of that.
>>570310575Have you heard abou the Neanderthals?
>>570303918>>But where the hell is Xiao?All of those are from the memories of the characters. They're generally clustered together and color coded too. Blue = GV, Red = Copen, and Yellow/Orange = Kirin. The only one that's off is Dogvolt being in Copen's memory cluster, but it's kind of Orange tinge.The reason Zonda looks so creepy is that it's Copen's memory of her. From GV's perspective, she looks as cute as ever. She is set up as Copen's Nova, even if she's meant to be Joule/Mytyl's counterpart.Nova looking fab instead of evil is because it's probably Kirin's memory of him (it's by her cluster, and it's yellow, even if it's slightly blue tinged).Xiao would definitely be in Quinn's house, because it's GV's memory of him.And Joule is very cute. Also, I think you can see Shadow Yakumo next to Kirin's leg. The notebooks next to her hand are either Copen's notes, or a reference to Kirin studying to test out of high school.These memories make me wish we had a manga that could fill out the emotional moments between missions. Especially the one of Joule sitting on the sidewalk looking depressed.
>>570317424For symmetry, as there are 18 scenes and 3 protagonists, it would be 6 memories per protagonist. So the notebooks belong to Copen and Nova is from Kirin's memory.
>>570317424>From GV's perspective, she looks as cute as everA hearty kek. A lmao even.
>>570318001That scene is from GV's eyes. Besides, the IPs in GV3 would disagree. He remembers Elise and Gibril as being attractive. I don't think he'd remember Zonda with scary glowed eyes, especially as he Grand Strizer'd her at the end of the day.
>>570318819>especially as he Grand Strizer'd her at the end of the dayExactly so it wouldn't be cute.
>>570318819He remembers Elise, Gibril, and Zonda as wanting his dick, which is different from being attractive.
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>>570318921How would he remember her then? I don't think he would see her as scary, especially GV3volt.>>570318978>>570319091I don't remember either of these quotes in the game.
>>570306368>(hopefully, don't dick around in stages)8 hour melt........
>>570319195Charred mark. Shitty singer.
>>570319303Well, he doesn't remember anybody else that way.
>>570319473He just really hates Zonda for what she did to Joule. Felt good about killing her. Even after hearing her start of darkness sob story, he didn't care. He said that he would never show her mercy because she was a monster.He feels the same way about her that he does about Asimov, except she doesn't have the benefit of being the person who rescued him from SFIT and raised him.
how will inter fumble shield cope gameplay
Joulefags are psychotic when it comes to Zonda. Happy none of the other girls have that hatedom.
Xbros, not like this...
>>570320259I wonder if Grigori is never Dragon's Dogma rep because MonHun needs the big creature spot. I guess Savan is good.>BoF4Cool
>>570320015>Happy none of the other girls have that hatedom.Kirin sends her regards.
>>570318921I would be happy to Grand Strizer Zonda too, if you catch my drift
>>570207162前回、サントラのブックレットにて「ガンヴォルトは完結」とコメントしたにも関わらず、謎の圧りょ･･････ファンの皆様方の熱くて厚いご支持ご声援により、またシナリオを書かせて頂くこととなりました。シナリオ担当の田井です。今回のCDドラマは、ゲームでは語れなかったデイトナや紫電の過去にスポットを当てたお話になっています。設定自体はぼんやりと決めていたのですが、 ゲーム本編はGVとシアンの物語なのだからと描かなかった物語です。「物事を一面的に捉えることの危うさ」というのは、津田ディレクターがガンヴォルトという作品で伝えたかったことの一つではないかと僕は思っているのですが、今回、皇神側の過去を書いたことで、そこに立ち返ることができたのではないかと思っています。･･････勘違いだったら恥ずかしいなぁ。今度ディレクターに聞いておこう･･････。今回出せなかった能力者たちにも、それぞれの過去や思惑はあるはずなので、皆さんで想像してみると楽しいかもしれませんね。>Despite previously stating in the soundtrack booklet that the Gunvolt saga had concluded, I found myself writing a scenario once again—thanks to a mysterious pressure... or rather, the passionate and unwavering support of the fans. I’m Tai, the scenario writer.>This audio drama shines a spotlight on the pasts of Daytona and Shiden—stories that couldn't be told within the game itself. While I had some vague ideas about their backgrounds, I hadn't fleshed them out because the main game was fundamentally the story of GV and Joule. I believe that "the dangers of viewing things from only one perspective" was one of the central themes Director Tsuda wanted to convey through Gunvolt; by writing about the pasts of the Sumeragi characters this time, I feel I was able to revisit that concept. ...It would be embarrassing if I was completely off the mark, though. I should ask the Director about it sometime... The Adepts who didn't appear this time surely have their own pasts and hidden agendas as well; it might be fun for everyone to imagine what those stories could be.>「物事を一面的に捉えることの危うさ」>the dangers of vieing the world with only one perspectiveSo yes, one of the central themes of Gunvolt, is one-sided perspectives being bad. It's probably why GV's accounts are inconsistent with the side stories. Personally, I both love and hate this. I like digging and researching, but at the same time, it should be in the games themselves. The ideal would be unlocking scenes and supplementary material through in-game challenges.
>>570319267save states kick in hour 3, so guard your gamer creds closely
Shut the fuck up I don't fucking care
>>570322434It also explains why Gunvolt and Copen are judgmental and lack empathy.However, if one of the central themes of your VN-game hybrid is obscured unless you listen to the audio dramas or read the short stories, than you've fucked up. The side stories are meant to be SIDE stories. They're not meant to contain important plot points, cause you to reevaluate everything about a character or story, or carry important messages in them. They're supposed to just be fun stories that expand the setting.Even GV3, for being a complete mess, bashed you over the head with >the dangers of vieing the world with only one perspectivein the game itself. The way they did it in GV1 + GV2 and it's stories, through show and not tell was better, but it doesn't matter if it required going outside the game to do so.
>>570323017I hate it here I hate it here I hate it here I hate it here It's all autistic shitposting about shit story and shit character nobody gives a fucking shit about.
>>570322817surely we wouldn't forfeit the king's services
>>570300852It just doesn't have the same heroic feel of "storming the castle" as attacking Firmament did, even if the scenario is identical. You're chasing a bunch of cornered, angry kids back to their secret base after having failed to save Joule yet again. Your enemies are desperately throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks in hopes of taking you down.
>>570310575It makes humans and adepts love each other.Genocide stops.Not sure where you get the killing all humans from, it's more of a last resort thing after adepts all power-up to strike back in self defense so just don't be in a lynch mob.
>>570328053I always associate the Belladen climax to storming the Shadowlord's castle in Nier. In playthrough B and beyond you realize the Shades are the original humans, desperately trying to protect their loved ones from the attacking Replicants. The concept of a "villain" is purely a matter of perspective, the tragedy of the story is driven entirely by a lack of communication between the two.But where Yoko Taro had every intention to make you feel like shit for your actions, I'm not sure that's what Inti initially wanted. It's just what ended up happening because they're a bunch of hacks.
>>570329396This right here. Nier replicant’s gut punch was so fucking powerful because it already set up warning signs beforehand that the shades weren’t everything they seemed to be. Inexplicable behaviours in the midst of battle, Kaine’s inner voice seemingly taunting out of nowhere. And equally, they elaborated on these behaviours, IN GAME I must emphasise. From the subtitles, to the backstories, to the Siren’s voice becoming more and more clear with each subsequent playthrough, it works because there was clear evidence that things were going contrary to the protag’s expectations.Gunvolt doesn’t do this. There is nothing to suggest that the bosses are behaving for reasons unknown to the protagonist. They all shoot and aim to kill and so you aren’t really made to question your urge to kill them back. Most notably, the “twist” is relegated to side material, which not only keeps the story from a good number of people, but due to poor, if not entirely lacking foreshadowing, it just comes off as useless details. Context or not, all of the sumeragi and eden bosses were aiming to kill a respective race. The shade bosses were not all like this.
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What was the name of the Gibril game not made by Inti? I'm looking to stock on games before shit hits the fan...again.
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>>570320015That midget can jump into the oven too.
>>570329396>It's just what ended up happening because they're a bunch of hacks.It's probably what they wanted, else you wouldn't have the Eden soldiers sacrificing themselves, Tenjian drawing parallels between himself and Zonda and GV/Copen and their sister figure, learning about Zonda's past, or Zonda's final words.It's a bit more messy than Nier's situation as Gunvolt is clearly in the right in his conflict against Eden, but his lack of empathy means he's incapable of convincing them to stand down, or really address the problem that created them in the first place. That lack of empathy is why you have GV saying that all of them are pure evil and do not deserve mercy, or rationalizing that many of them probably deserved the oppression they received as nonadepts wouldn't be going after them for no reason.>>570333527Yeah, perhaps they were too subtle with their message.>They all shoot and aim to kill and so you aren’t really made to question your urge to kill them back.Think I remember a few bosses telling you to surrender or leave across the games, and GV or Copen doubling down, but Gunvolt has always been bad about this. It's OOC for the Dragon Saviors and ATEMS to be killing the protagonist, for instance. Most of the enemy adepts do not fight to the death in their stories. They will pull punches and spare other adepts, even against adepts who do not appear in game (aka, people it'd be okay to kill from a meta perspective). It's only against Gunvolt that they go kill mode, and that might be because he's just that dangerous and willing to kill. Gunvolt has been killing other adepts since before he was 13. He has the highest killcount of adepts in the cast by far. He has never pulled punches or spared a single adept he has fought. In all of his side stories, when he fights a no-name minor adept, he kills them, no matter their power level. That might influence their behavior towards him.And Sumeragi were trying to oppress adepts, not wipe them out.
>>570350124>many of them probably deserved the oppression they receivedI wonder what drives Juan to be such an Uncle Tom. Do you think his trauma with Asimov made him he resent being made an adept against his will?
>>570340801Super Alloy Crush? It has a bad translation. Not 8-4 bad, just really awkward.
>>570313676Gv literally lets joule get cucked to death
>>570350463Because of his guilt from GV1. He flip-flops between the games. Some of the Eden members ask him WTF happened to him that he went from pro-adept freedom fighting terrorist to now talking about how adepts are the only ones making the world hell. He also sees the Eden members as either his past self or Asimov.
>>570300852>That's why we love gv2Projecting
>>570350887>lets jouleHe's just really easy to manipulate. Despite all his power, he can't really save anyone or get a happy ending for himself, like Locke.
>>570300852>we
>>570351049Most sane people think GV2's finale is depressing. You're the only one who likes it because adept shits die or something.
>>570351145All he had to do was not reject mytyl nor let her get operated on by hacks for a 3rd time. In his final moments gv utterly betrayed her
>>570351315I'd argue sane people don't even play GV.
>>570351580Kek this.
>>570351315Wrong postHere's the one you want>>570300852
>>570351580Most sane people don't care about story or characters in a 2D platformer like this. They just skip through everything. Mega Man realized this, which is why the stories in X and Classic are just excuse plots outside of the Playstation era.
>>570351779The PS era was when they still had INTI staff working for them. That's why. They did write Legends, so I'll give them that. To this day, it's still one of the best games at capturing what it feels like to play a good anime.
>>570329396Ironically, 8-4 localized the Nier series.
>>570351994Inti opened shop in '96. They probably dipped sooner in '95. Legends released in '97. Kawano's been in Capcom.
>>570351994Inti has nothing to do with Legends, that was the staff that became BN devs later on. Hence why it's full of Legends references spread around.
>>570351145>Locke can't save anyone for himselfWanna know something funny about that? When Locke raids Lady Kahn's base, which is like Belladen but set on a planetoid, the base is set to crash onto a gas giant as a final fuck you from Lady Kahn after she dies, he ends up saving the remaining Millennium espers inside the base. So no, Locke actually can save people, he just doesn't get a happy ending for himself.
>>570351430Huh? Neither of those things were under his control. He didn't even know who Mytyl was until the final stage. Eden kidnaps her from the Kamizono estate no matter what Gunvolt does. Then he decides to just let her stay with Copen after Joule had already died and fused with her.
>>570351145He could've just reached out to Mytyl, he would've had his dick sucked that night.
>>570356128He evidently thinks Joule's in there or else he wouldn't go "I just want her to be happy" to himself while looking all sad when he decides to not drop the subject. The thing is he has no reason whatsoever to believe she will be safe with people that already lost her twice and he seems to be under the impression he's the reason she was being targetted which is blatantly untrue to anybody that paid attention to any antagonist monologue in GV1 or GV2. The Muse septima's the problem and as far as he knows she still has it, Sumeragi knows about her and anybody outside that gets access to Eden files does too.Him being in a position where he can "let her go" and that meaning she can be happy in ignorance for the rest of her life only makes sense if he's the leader of Sumeragi as it was originally planned or he knows that she no longer has the septima everyone wants to use for their own goals which he doesn't.
GV x Mytyl is an awful pairing. They're obviously star-crossed and the finale is about letting her go.
>>570356914>when he decides not to drop the subject*decides to drop the subject
>>570356914The fusion is more "Mytyl with Joule's hair/eye color." Her biological brother has more of a claim to her than he does. Copen is no less capable of protecting her.
>>570357197>Copen is no less capable of protecting herYeah I'm sure the part where she's physically taken away twice during the same month or so really proves that. Also the part where Copen has lost to GV 3 times by the time the scene happens, last time even while having an Anthem boost and an anti-septima gun.
>>570356953I'm not arguing about the pairing's quality or the "themes", just that it's a retarded outcome due to probably them determining it when the story had a lot of key difference from early drafts and never adjusting.
Things are going slow, we got two rat bumps. Post genie butts.
>>570357197>Copen is no less capable of protecting herJobber Extraordinaire is completely incapable of protecting anything. Canonically he was defeated by one of the G7s since Eden has the mirror shard he collected at the intro.If it weren't for Gunvolt, Shinobu's line would've died out then and there.
>>570356953>GV x Mytyl is an awful pairing.Why? I think they'd have great chemistry if INTI would allow them to interact.
>>570357531And? Gunvolt has uad Joule kidnapped from him going on three times, depending on how you look at it. Copen's not a pushover. He just isn't allowed to outshine GV when they share a story.
>>570358442GV lost Joule when in an apartment one time, he got her back and only lost her because of a Copen invention, the other two involved ripping out her soul that was fixed to GV which means she's out in the front lines.Also Copen's not allowed to outshine any Azure Striker period, as his glowing record in the iX timeline will show you.
>>570357912Your general is 4 pages down
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What kinda huehue goods must someone bribe GV with to get his permission to date Joule. Will he want to fight a minos to the death to give his okay? Do they need to fight another minos to the death?
>>570358784But his iX self CAN take down other powerful adepts. I don't know if its the added century of experience compared to mainline, but iX never jobs to someone like Ghauri.
>>570358442>Copen's not a pushover>Copen's not a pushoverHe absolutely is. Inti likes to claim that he isn't, but practically every single game he always eats dirt in the most unceremonious and pathetic ways. Even when he got his own series it was just>Lend me some help Nori, this is base Asimov I'm up against!>Lend me some help Kohaku, this is base Blade we're up against!>Lend me some help Roro, this is base Blade we're up againt!>Lend me some power Roro, this is base GigaLola we're up against!>Lend me some help minos kids, this is base Sumeragi we're up against!>Lend me some power Kohaku, this is base Demerzel we're up against! (Wallahi good thing Kohaku came and killed him, or else I'm finished!!)And that's on top of all his other humiliations. If it was just limited to Azure Strikers it'd be one thing, but to be bailed out five times in one game and even having his kill stolen is cataclysmic. Comical, even. He'll never live it down.
>>5703599324 of the 5 you listed were Azure Strikers though I also don't recall him struggling with the Rorotank.
>>570359932tbf he did end Elise.>He'll never live it down.We noticed after all the futbol jobbing he did.
>>570360457He did.>>570360502Shot in the back while she's distracted by Gunvolt. My fuarking hero.
>>570359657His iX self jobbed to random roombas around the Grave Pillar so he has bigger problems, also like that other anon said, Lola Tank.
Kohaku if she was older in IX3
>>570360948>>570361441Oh. Well, those are scripted sequences. He has a better track record than GV1/2 Copen, still.
>>570361675A fucking ground wave.
>>570359395>What kinda huehue goods must someone bribe GV with to get his permission to date JouleIf you're a minos? Nothing. When she told him a guy was hitting on her he was both happy about it but also more interested in talking about megaman.Might actually do the guy good seeing how his imouto stand-in is getting out of her shell
>>570361567Cursed image.
You guys act as though Zero didn't need to be bailed out constantly. The "Legendary Reploid's" story ends in the desert against some Pantheons without Harpy taking pity on him.
>>570355714GV is what would happen if you removed Locke's wisdom and compassion. Locke values all human life, even those of his enemies, and considers things from every angle, while GV doesn't. GV's ideal world would be one where all the bad people are dead, whereas Locke's would be closer to Nova's (one where everyone would choose to be good and could be happy together).Maybe the idea with Tsuda's fanfiction was to portray what Locke would have been like in his early days before he matured. With GV3's character development, Gunvolt resembles Locke more closely than he did before.
>>570360948It's called a Giant Murderball for a reason.
>>570361567Blessed image
>>570362215Locke actually learns to calm the fuck down during that same OVA, iirc he mercilessly executes a Millennium esper that tries to fight him at an earlier instance.
>>570362215Also, think Lady Khan is ironically how GV sees Zonda, because he uses some of the exact same words that Locke uses against Khan (about treating people like tools for her own gain). However, Locke is right about Lady Khan whereas GV is off the mark, unless it's 8-4.Before you get confused, the webm is an earlier scene than my linked post.
>>570362663I've watched that entire OVA anon, I know all that takes place in it and how much of it GV2 and iX1 take.
>>570362889It was for anons who haven't watched it.>>570362656No, he was acting like he'd kill him to freak him out; he wasn't going to actually do it. It was the other Millenium espers who executed him. Locke get pretty pissed off about it too.
>>570359395GV would be cool as long as said minos can give her a proper life. He's that dense.
So when is Inti going to make something derivative of the Devilman manga? That's something I'd actually care to see
>>570360948A weapon to surpass Yohane. Well that and the frostbite.
>>570363468Like always, the bar is set very low with adepts.
>>570363450You're right I was probably mixing it up with something else.As for Lady Kahn, she's like a mix of Zonda and Asimov, with Butterfly Effect body horror but self inflicted to be immortal.
How would Locke handle the Eden/Zonda situation differently, anyway?
>>570363893He killed Lady Kahn, so he'd kill her.
>>570363842The "bar" as the exact same height for both minos and adepts. It's just that for dating an adept you have to pass bellow the bar.
I want to share extremely spicy noodles with Zonda to see if the need for milk breaks her composure
>>570361567she's expired...
>>570364157I dunno man, very few adept girls are interested in minos men.
>>570363893If the OVA with that space pirate is any indication, he might just revert her to a baby if he can't convince her.>>570364059Kahn is comically evil like Asimov and doesn't actually care about anything other than putting himself at the top.
>>570364059First, Locke did not kill Khan, that was Cornelia. Tsuda/Tai actually copied the entire scene for Asimov's death in iX.Second, Locke would not kill Zonda unless he absolutely had to, and he would consider it a huge failing and regret on his part rather than a mission objective and achievement like GV.>>570363893Locke is a lot more intelligent and savvy than GV owing to his hundreds of years of life, so he probably wouldn't have waltzed through Belladen's front door with the mirror shards to kill everyone. Before the finale, he probably would have just knocked out the Eden members and handed them over to Sumeragi/Japan with assurances that they don't get tortured and executed, or he'll be coming back around for Sumeragi. Once he's pulled the mirror shards from them, it significantly negates the amount of mischief a lot of the G7 can get up to. Not killing everyone and showing compassion would make talking to Zonda easier. Losing her friends was probably one of the reasons she double down on her plan to begin with. And he might get her to shift on her plan being the "only survival strategy." She's not anywhere as hateful as the other Eden members, she speaks positively of QUILL, and she seems to get emotional when describing how adepts and nonadepts can't coexist. He might need to spank her a bit beforehand though.
>>570361810Could Gunvolt talk about Megaman with Anons in this thread? Or would he just blathering about rats
>>570366569I think he likes classic, so no.
This reminds me of the "how would Astroboy deal with Wily" discussions from way back.
>>570366724I wanted to show him my collection of erotic Leviathans to befriend him...
>>570366569>Or would he just blathering about ratsSo like every other anon.
>>570363893The first movie is the Eden plot, but with Locke, and he redeems most of the villains by the end. Most of Millennium weren't as sympathetic or pity-bait as Eden, either. They were much more of supremacist, up to killing their own people for failures or rewriting the memories of useful espers, and didn't bother with the found family orphan theme of Eden. They were also far more culty. In Eden, the G7 routinely have disagreements, even with Zonda and Tenjian. Tenjian doesn't even believe all the God stuff, for instance, and Gibril argues with Zonda on freedom vs happiness rather than just drinking the kool-aid. Most of Millenium were also uggos in black spandex, but that shouldn't influence your opinion, right?
Assuming they weren't trying to kill you and it was just a normal social situation, which GV character would be the most miserable to be around
>>570369327Either Ghauri or Teseo.
>>570365108Dunno man, the ones that were not ended up dead or in cuck jail.
>>570369327>normal social situation>adept shits
>>570364059>>570362663>>570363850But Zonda takes more of her lines and ideals from Cornelia than Kahn. Cornelia is the most powerful Millenium esper, and says she's fighting to fill the universe with love and freedom. She's also the one girl Locke falls in love with, and they decide to live together, but the Federation memory wipes her for her crimes, and you get the Mytyl-GV scene. Unlike Gunvolt, this is treated as a sad ending.
>>570369327Copen and Demerzel.
>>570370695Mix of Zonda as in she pretends to care like Zonda does but is actually Asimov.
>>570370695I want to fill Zonda with my love, if you catch my drift
>>570366376Khan was just a corpse/brain in a jar like Mytyl? Gross. Were they planning to take over a younger body at some point?
Uooooooooohhhhh Jiiburiru sexo.
>>570371912If by sexo you mean stern, fatherly correction then I'm all in.
>>570350487>>570340801
>>570372257Uh, yeah. "Stern" and ""fatherly"" for sure.
>>570340801>>570373179Anyone for an Eve too?
>>570373671Eve if Jason lost that final battle.
>>570350487Do I need both or only the second one has blonde Gibril?
I should give Super Alloy Crush another try. I liked Super Alloy Ranger, but for some reason Crush immediately turned me off
>>570374761They both have it.>>570373671These devs really like INTI.
>>570374902They're Inti if Inti was still good.
>>570146246Starforce came and went and it barely moved the needle.
>>570376867We got more Lunas. Worth.
>>570370695Remove the racism, and Mytyl's probably Cornelia.
If I want to play the iX games for the first time, should I just go ahead and wait for the collection coming out next month at this point?
>>570378467might as well, might have better QoL, new features, iX3 teaser content
>>570378640It would probably tease GX if anything since GX is iX2.5 basically.
>>570379195I have a feeling GX will explain how Copen loses the Blaster Rifle, among other things.
>>570378640I looked at the trailer and it just said balance changes. Do you know any more details? I'm not that first Anon, I just played the first iX. I was wondering what they change in 2.
>>570379457Copen ran into a Mutant Pizza with final boss tier crust.
>>570378467>not waiting for the X collection with all 3 gamesStriker pack keks lose yet again.
>>570350487>>570373179>>570374902This is nothing like Gerbil.
>>570382215I'm a five finger discount guy, actually
>>570376867I'm content with the collection itself Good enough for meI still prefer dx
>>570382375Based evaluation copy Anon.
>>570365579Everyone said that GV is just a Locke clone, but it seems GV (the character) is significantly edgier than Locke. Haven't watched Choujin Locke, so correct me if I'm wrong.
>>570384697GV is like a Locke origin story basically, in the first manga volumes that happen way earlier than that OVA he's more like him.
>>570386272For reference, Locke stories ditch the entire cast for the most part after they're done, sound familiar? Stories are also spaced decades apart, there's also multiple planets so it's a lot easier to do the cast reset and lastly sometimes he fights against the Federation and others he opposes them, similar to how GV fights Sumeragi in the first game but helps them in others.
>>570376867maybe, but the renewed interest in luna was cool
>>570384697The Locke that's being posted here had a lot of character development. Early Locke could make mistakes, give in to anger, and go too hard against people who didn't deserve that level of beat down. I don't think he was ever as deep set in believing himself right or his enemies beyond redemption as GV was. GV in the first two games refused to introspect or "look back" because he was afraid of what he'd find. See his monologue on Orpheus right before he heads off to kill Zonda and the G7. And I don't think the people Locke killed were ever as antivillainous or even regretful as the people GV killed without remorse. Neither do I remember Locke moonlighting as an assassin to support himself.>>570386747The difference is that Locke's cast felt like they were "done" when they exited. There is closure of some sort, like you have said goodbye to them and there's nothing more. GV abandons his cast while there are still major questions unanswered concerning them. It's the equivalent of having an important character just disappear after an inconsequential scene never to show or talk about them again, or ending a song right in the middle. It's similar to >>570298740 , now that I think about it.
>>570388370Yeah those differences that make things not work such as ditching the cast when there's still things left is why I believe Tai was right during GV1's development when he told Tsusa to shove the Choujin Locke tankoubons up his ass, the problem is that it seems afterwards he learned to just tell him "do this" instead of saying "do this it's like this old manga you see" and those times Tai simply caved in.
>>570382330That's the exact moveset Gibril would have if she was playable.
>>570389185Think Tai also said that he'd like to have introduced the nuance and development to the cast found in the drama CDs into the games, but he doesn't have enough game time to work before they die and also tell GV/Joule's story. GV3 was the first game where the drama CDs were not necessary to understanding any of the characters, and that's because they had way more game time to work with.
>>570389419It's just claw attacks and dive kicks. And also a bunch of other swords and lances, remember when Gerbil used those? Where's the mage mode? Where's Iron Maiden? This is nothing like Gerbil.
>>570243174Why doesn't Capcom like Mega Man? I understand that they don't like smaller games that can be beat in under 3 hours nowadays, especially with how much poorer the plebs are getting, but Mega Man is more than just Classic.
>>570390759This is the big stuff from this year.
>Jota tired Gibril out and didn't kill her when she was defensless>GV tired Gibril out and then charged up a luxcalibur when she was too exhausted and hurt to moveShe was going to die anyway, but you know he canonically did this as by Tsuda's words, the canon GV styles and kudomaxes his way to victory.
>>570391448On the one hand, she was the most evil member of the G7 (to nonadepts). On the other, GV thought she was an elementary schooler.
>>570392589>On the other, GV thought she was an elementary schooler.Until he found out she was an adept. Then he started calling her a woman and treating her as such. Subtle characterization. Copen, on the other hand, continues to treat her like a little kid because it pisses her off, and he's cool with killing them.
>>570376867I prefer the DS Star Force games because of the FONT.
>>570392589>GV thought she was an elementary schoolerYou missed the part where he thought that was the hottest thing he'd ever seen.A true "first-of-its-kind sensation."
>>570392589>>570393083I think he got a better look at her afterward and realized that she's just short. It's dark in that manor. Gibril is considered cute in universe.
>>570392589why do age matter to people so much? is it american believe that young character being kill is moral worse? something i notice repeated. for me it is more sad if a 60 year robber gets shot than a 6 year killer does. i never notice age or if gender when consider action or moral.
>>570393831saar
>>570391448Jota hadn't gone through an entire manor filled with zombies that she had made by draining all the blood of random people when he spared her, it's painfully obvious he'd have killed her if he had.
>>570392589Bro GV is a middle schooler, why would he care?You guys keep acting like GV was this grown ass adult man during 1 and 2, he was 14.
>>570395386Coping mechanism because adept fucking shits were told to fuck all the way off.
>>570390228>that's because they had way more game time to work withIt's more that they simply gave up in writing detailed characters. The Dragon Savior Bureau and Atems are cardboard cutout anime tropes.
>>570381663>>570378467All they said on balance changes is a power boost for darkness trigger (now your main weapon deals more damage with it active) in iX1 and for iX2 the Razor Wheel gets stronger if you're carrying at least 500 kudos. Its a mystery what else they tweaked. In any case there's no point getting the standalone versions at this point.
>>570393831What sort of barbarian country do you come from? Kids are malleable; their morality isn't set in stone yet. Even in Gunvolt, the characters change radically since they're still maturing. That's why people feel worse when they see a young, cute looking villain die unless they're the literal spawn of Satan.>>570395386Basically. Although people who say that about GV tend not to extend that to any of the characters GV kills.>>570395642Choujin Locke tends to keep the characterization pretty sparse too. You really only have 2-4 characters who really matter and get characterization per arc outside of Locke, and even then, they weren't as deep or interlocked with Locke as Nova to GV. That's probably why it could wrap up its cast's story and grab a completely new one.
>>570392589>she was the most evil member of the G7As if we (and probably them) don't know how to deal with a female villian.
>>570396567You picked an especially poor case for comparison, GV isn't killing random civilians for shits and giggles out of his own whim like spawn of satan on a cute girl body over there. Even at his worst he's being manipulated by Asimov, what's Gibril's excuse?
>>570397462>"look I posted the meme girl!"You didn't play that game if you think that's comparable.
>>570397462I'd say a 6 shooter personally.
>>570397510>what's Gibril's excuse?Not spanked by mom, not hugged enough by dad
>>570397510I wasn't only talking about Gibril. Gibril is probably redeemable, because a lot of her anger is born empathy for adepts and the atrocities she's seen, but she also deserves getting put down after the manor. People extend this to everyone GV kills and say that you should feel good when they die, like they say GV does.
>Akiba Maid Wars thread on /v/ Which one of (you) did it!?
>>570398343Well, they do. This general has too much pity for the likes of Elise and Zonda. They're burning in hell with the rest.
>>570397673I did. And Hilda killed waaaaaay WAAAAAY more people than Gibril.
>This againFrom Tai himself:>Despite previously stating in the soundtrack booklet that the Gunvolt saga had concluded, I found myself writing a scenario once again—thanks to a mysterious pressure... or rather, the passionate and unwavering support of the fans. I’m Tai, the scenario writer.>This audio drama shines a spotlight on the pasts of Daytona and Shiden—stories that couldn't be told within the game itself. While I had some vague ideas about their backgrounds, I hadn't fleshed them out because the main game was fundamentally the story of GV and Joule. I believe that "the dangers of viewing things from only one perspective" was one of the central themes Director Tsuda wanted to convey through Gunvolt; by writing about the pasts of the Sumeragi characters this time, I feel I was able to revisit that concept. ...It would be embarrassing if I was completely off the mark, though. I should ask the Director about it sometime... The Adepts who didn't appear this time surely have their own pasts and hidden agendas as well; it might be fun for everyone to imagine what those stories could be.>「物事を一面的に捉えることの危うさ」>the dangers of viewing the world with only one perspective
>>570398576Yeah because she basically holding the line on her own so the planet's suicide protocol didn't trigger due to too many humans while being actively hindered by the good guys having a mole that would prevent any attempt at understanding.
>>570398763And if she was somehow wrong in her assessment, she'd have been a monster. Funny how that works out.
>>570398343Well I don't so don't lump me in with those faggots, I just think nobody would bat an eye if Gibril wasn't a cute girl.
>>570398454That reminds me I tepidly wrote and tested some "maid war" wargame, as in with counters on a board.It ended up quickly devolving into napoleonic slugging matches I had the modifiers be +1 if you outnumber, +2 if you double or more. And on the swinging of d10 against AI narcos, my maids ended up routinely getting pushed back with heavy losses or driving forward in parity only buoyed by the relentless stream of new recruits as they kept pushing further and further in. Lost one of the characters early on and so it was just a meatgrinder until they stormed the final enemy bastion.While I enjoyed it I don't think anyone else would actually like that amount of autism of controlling maid cafes to make money to make maid battalions roll a 1 and get stomped by an enemy they outnumbered 4 to 1.
>>570398719Tai is speaking out his ass. How is there any viewing the perspective of a genocidal twat like Zonda or megalomaniacal tyrant like Nova? These are monsters you put down.
>>570398927What is your point when comparing her kills/turning into crystal people because if population passes a threshold everyone gets killed to Gibril just killing civilians because she could?
>>570398719>>570399151He was probably speaking about the villains there, not Gunvolt.
Meanwhile Pantera loves minos so much it makes robots go insane.
>>570399237Maybe we're talking around each other, but I was talking more generally about the antagonists, not Gibril in specific.>>570399290You have pretty bad reading comprehension, anon. In the actual drama CD though, Nova does consider things from multiple angles and says that project muse is terrible, but it's the least bad option they have. It's also where he says that his desire is a world where everyone can be happy, vs GV and Copen's ideal world (at the time) being where the wicked are punished.
>>570396567Indians don't have that mold ability so they don't care at all for minor lives.
You ever just want to take Zonda into a steamy shower or sauna and fuck her while she's pressed against the cold glass door, or is that just me
>>570399397>I'm still salty that they retconned out her endangered species status in the latest game
>>570399098> to make maid battalions roll a 1 and get stomped by an enemy they outnumbered 4 to 1.Sounds like you did a great job at depicting how maids wage war.
>>570399678You started this specific exchange with >>570397462 so of course I thought you were comparing her to Gibril specifically.
>>570399151>These are monsters you put down.lol. The ideal end is turning them into an asset, not destroying them, and you can't change them if you don't understand them. They aren't as deadset in their ways as people think they are. They're a lot like GV, and will flip if the right buttons are pressed as they aren't too happy with their current options.>GV3It's consistent with his characterization in Justice Rage and CnC, so yes, GV3.
>>570399909That means no guilt in going for Sky.Coincidentally, Misora means Sky and she's my favored out of the Starforce Duo.
>>570400295>characterization on a drama CD and a crossover game released a decade afterI hate the way Inti handles GV stories so fucking much
>>570399397So that was the star's plan? Just make every adept female be addicted to minos cock, and let them fuck things out? Doesn't that leave a bunch of JOJO-eske outsits unnacounted for and with nothing to do?
>>570400504I'd be happy to ensure Zonda was addicted to my cock, so I'm entirely in favor of this plan
>>570400449guilt didn't have anything do with both Barracuda Joe and Armor Baron ditching her.
>>570400504They can fight each other.
>>570400295>>570399151And doesn't Zonda abandon the muse plan for doki-doki'ing the world in the Might Gunvolt series? Why would she want to do that?>>570400473It's not like it isn't inconsistent with his GV1 characterization, it's just another facet of him. It's like imagine if you only got to see Gunvolt while he was on missions. You'd get a very different, probably less sympathetic feel for him. Same for Nova and Zonda.
>>570400601Oh anon. You would not reach her before being picked out and then dragged to a dark alley by the local girl scouts.
>>570400473Also that these drama cds are made AFTER the fact and not included in the base game, often distributed a whole year after release. It is beyond fucking stupid.Gunvolt's story is being made as we play it. There's no plan for anything, it's all just vibes.
>>570400628Their loss.
Zonda ERPer is like Pandora Anon but without the power to follow through on commissions.
>>570401352Now if only anyone here could actually draw.
>>570400984More like half a year to a year. And from Tai, they usually have some idea or draft of whom the character is and then base the CD off of that. In the main games, they always imply there's something deeper going on with these characters that GV doesn't or refuses to see. It's not like they're rewriting anyone.
>>570401903cute genie
Shantae posting was only supposed to happen after yaoi.That was the deal.
>>570402135Bruh.
>>570401352Wish he did, would be a lot more enjoyable that way.
>>570401690Well good thing they also do that what with retconning Reverie Zonda into octima bullshit 8 years after the fact on a card battler crossover game.
>>570402310
>>570402159Shantae was always shitposting
>>570402647Was it a retcon or just revealing more info? The only legit retcon I can think of was making Zonda a figurehead and Tenjian is responsible for planning and controlling everything in Eden's Party and Strikers Bonus when GV2 implies she's the mastermind and it's all her plan.
>>570403437At no point is a fuss on the level of Morbvolt made and her boss fight being so underwhelming isn't doing her any favors, they can go "oh she's new at this that's why she sucks" all they want, Morb is a literal fetus and GV is actively trying to resist his control.
>>570404046>her boss fight being so underwhelming isn't doing her any favorsThey were just saving manpower so they could... Follow up with an equally underwhelming boss fight right afterwards...
>>570400635How well that worked out at the end of part 6? Mind you, we still would have an alien in the basement.
>>570402159shantaeposters ARE fags
>>570402517He would have more impact too! Pandorafag commed like 20 pazuri images. For Zonda 20 comms of anything would be her new main thing. Sorta how because of Cougar, everybody who plays DMFD get a huge whiplash from seeing cannon Atrumm compared to the one on his fanarats who made more than 75% of all the fanart he ever got.
>>570405020Like Zonda in boots?>>570404203Fight itself was serviceable; it was the lack of a post battle dialog and how she's completely forgotten about afterward that is ass. Nova, Asimov, Zed/Morb, and Mother are all talked about after their defeats.
>>570405020>Pandorafag commed like 20 pazuri imagesNot just images, but animations too. He's done more for this general than any other fag combined.
>he's done more for this generalhe did it for himself, he just opted to share them herethere are other individuals who actually made things for this general, personally.why the fuck are we even having this retarded parasocial relationship conversation anyways? fuck I hate you retards
>>570406789Couldn't the same be said of scanners and translators?
>>570406982>Trying to split the conversation off into another entirely tangentially related topic that got some traction recentlyOh okay, it's just engagement bait, got it.
>>570406789Compare that to Rollnigger and Shantaefag doing us no good at all.
>>570405654You would think GV would have something to say about the slaughter at Belladen or killing the girl the game compares to Joule, and who GV even acknowledges as such, but nope, nothing. Less dialog then the Sumeragi fallout. I guess the only thing that makes sense is the guilt he feels.
>>570408086Gunvolt said all he needed to say as Zonda disintegrated. You're the only ones caught up with it.
>>570408703They can't get over the fact that zonda predicated the entire thing on child sacrifice. They want the omales poison. They think there's something worthwhile in someone who wants to save the world and powers those dreams on a child's corpse.
>>570408703>>570398719
>>570408703>>570408962It's more like there's a lack of satisfaction. I'd take him taunting or dissing her/Eden like he did with Asimov.
>>570408086GV doesn't say anything because he doesn't think anything about it. He enjoyed his moment of revenge, mourned Joule, then moved on. Eden and Zonda aren't worth thinking about. They're like dog shit scraped off the bottom of his shoe.>>570408962>>570408703Whose death do you think GV was more satisfied by, Asimov's or Zonda's? Asimov he got to shittalk, but with Zonda, he really got to see the despair build up before she died.
Why do the pro-GV people talk about him like he's a spiteful psycho who enjoys loli death? Isn't that supposed to Copen's bit?
>>570410949Because they’ve got a head-canon and aren’t capable of admitting they’re wrong, so they’ll double-down on that endlessly.
>>570407243He brougt his boogeyman Rollfag, of course it was about that.
>>570410949His last lines to her are angrily telling her off, then he never mentions her ever again when he references Nova all the time and even minor characters like Elise.
>>570410949Because he is a favela kid first and formost. Hell that's why he misses Asimov so much because you don't shoot your criminal foster father figure unless you wish for another Maracanazo.
>>570408962If you could end a single problem the current world has, call it AI, microplastic polution, feminism, lack of a proper source of energy, the niggs and the rats, one of those gone forever with a single sacrifice of somebody you don't even know, and all that is asked of (you) is to hold the blade and pull out that heart, why would (you) not do it?
>>570414874>Anon here asking to be a sacrifice
>>570415347Belive you me, I would if I knew that it would work. Hell both Joulie and Michiru might have decided to go with it if they knew what it would do or what the alternative will be.But all of this would depend on anybody listening to Desna and that's not gonna happen.
Back when I thought it was just going to be a short DLC, I said this was probably just an advert for GV4, but now they're talking about it having as much story content as, if not more than, GV3, I'm thinking it will be the actual conclusion, and it will be a letdown. They're not going to give a DLC the time and budget to do the finale fans would want. Once again, Copen continues to win.My schizo prediction is that the ending will make us upset as it's seen as cheap (think ATEMS final level vs GV3 final levels) and/or emotionally manipulative, then a few years later at some major anniversary event, they'll announce some sort of Gunvolt dating sim hybrid game in an inverse of what happened to Gal Gun, assuming they don't die in the meantime.
>>570415347Zonda and the G7 were willing to sacrifice themselves though, so at the very least you can't accuse them of being hypocrites.
