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Undercover Agent Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/714529243732640268

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>570094551
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Oh did you just rank up? cool
>sends you to a torture rape match to instantly derank
know your fucking place, trash
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based osees making the worst seven build known to man so seven doesn't get nerfed and potentially even buffed
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So what happened to Floormen's players? Who got absorbed where?
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Silver buffs when?
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I love Victor
Buff Victor
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Why is Silver wearing blue.

Everyone knows she can't hold a job.
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why the hell is spirit victor so popular all of a sudden it's fucking dogshit
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>don't fight urn on right side
>lose fighting 2v1 for mid walker
>lose fighting 2v1 for left walker
What is FPSL's endgame here?
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>>570176871
Cookie skin
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>>570176852
Is Victor is younger than Graves here?

>>570176884
Dunno about spirit, but he seems like a solid safe pick for late carries.
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I feel like no matter how much Spirit Ressist I build I still get one shot by basically any spirit damage from the enemy, even if they aren't ahead of me
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>giving silver another free win to maintain the agenda
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How is Yamato not a racist stereotype?
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>>570177197
Victor is like a couple of months old at most.
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Rem's hung shota pp
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>>570177197
>Is Victor is younger than Graves here?
Yes, Graves is 18 while Victor was born yesterday, Graves is a PDF file Epstein disciple fr fr
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They should make Apollo a twin and add her to the game
She could do archery or martial arts or something instead of fencing
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What if 5...no, 6 torment pulses.
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i love victor
>>570176852
sigh guess ill kill myself someone got my gimmick
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Is it weird that I'm normally a huge gooner for video game characters but I can't find a single girl in Deadlock that activates my neurons? I have almost 2.5k hours in the game.

For reference, I normally love vampires, but Mina is so annoying and I hate her playstyle.
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Sex with Venator
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>>570177704
mommy
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Silver is so strong! She can get carried by heroes that actually do something!
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i'm surprised the networth was so close considering how completely embarrassing that performance was from fpsl. they lost or didn't contest every single fight from the moment of first urn
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>>570177704
Is this AI slop?
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>>570178365
no
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BWC W.
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>>570178601
What exactly did Silver do here
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Victor needs his cooldown reduction on ult completely removed.
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>>570178349
They had some early picks in the laning phase, and decent push.

But tank ball was too stronk, once it started rolling.
Got to a point where it felt like FPSL couldn't take a head-on 6v6, yet also couldn't find a window to split push or make fair trades.
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>download fat paige mod
>downlaod paige fart and burp on ability use mod
yep it's gaming time
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>>570178708
I agree, when he's on the enemy team.
It needs to be lower when I'm playing him
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>>570178765
i remember seeing the mina burp mod on twitter and thinking it was funny then opening the guy's profile to see he's dead serious about that shit
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They need to add the break mechanic from Dota that disables all passives including Victor's ult.
They need to add Hoodwink.
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>>570177704
I hate that stupid circle lighting that all artists seem to add to boobs now a days. That and making every character sweaty for no reason
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>>570178760
>But tank ball was too stronk, once it started rolling.
It was over well before that point, their early game draft wasn't even good early game
At 12 minutes they were literally losing two walker pushes and not contesting urn, all at the same time
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>>570177839
You may be blind and or gay, literally all hot
>>570178365
yes
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GT buffs when? he does no damage its insane how are you expected to get kills with this hero
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>>570179113
is THIS ai slop? Who's the artist then?
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What if Valve added Briar to Deadlock instead of Hoodwink?
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What if Valve added Ellis to Deadlock?
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>>570179219
the artist is literally any korean / jap ntr degenerate artist
take your pick
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>>570179425
>every spell is just him equipping another gun
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What if Valve added Naafiri to Deadlock instead of Hoodwink or Briar?
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>>570178685
participated on the winning team.
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>>570179012
>women take thirst trap pictures with ringlights
>artists use them as references, keep the ringlight reflections because they don't think about what's causing it
>other artists copy the art and now ringlight reflections are just standard in all kinds of shit even when it doesn't make sense
funny stuff
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>>570176450
This gets a pass but when I post Paige with big, fat sweater puppies that are obscured by a book the thread gets deleted.
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>>570178932
the paige one is funny as fuck because you'll use an ability and she'll just shit her pants for like 30 seconds and it loops over itself and the fucking burps break up her regular voice lines I was legit light headed as fuck when I first used this shit
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what's this nigga crashing out about?
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>>570179753
Good if they sexualize her heavily.
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>>570179113
ouughghh nerd booby and awoo boobies ouuuhghhhhhh!
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>>570179978
Ivy players--and fetishizers--are not mentally stable.
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>>570180250
Disgusting vile lovely wife creature
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>>570180091
anatomically correct and VERY puffy, of course
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*high pitched squeal of pain*
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>She's just a little too good at roaming and she makes a great part of a roaming team. She's just genuinely great in a bunch of places.
The professional Silver upplaying continues. The agenda must be maintained.
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>>570180370
New Queen of Deadlock, of couse.
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>Get shitstomped by enemy team
>Check steam profiles
>four of them are 1 year old steam accounts with 1+ game bade.
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wtf is this draft lol
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>>570180598
you just expose yourself as a shitter by trying to downplay her.
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>>570178765
stop cheating
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>>570180649
oh lol apollo wasn't the ban it was pocket, makes sense then
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>>570180598
>heroes that have 55%+ winrate in every bracket for months?
>who cares just buy counter items
>hero that has 47% winrate globally but slightly above 50% in the highest ranks because the hero isn't faceroll easy?
>ITS TOO STRONG NERF NOOOOOOOOW
You can't convince me that the upplayers aren't using her as a scapegoat to divert attention from the actually OP heroes.
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Lash was second ban for BWC.
MLC sweep.
this won't even be close. NA is a meme region. MLC sucks but they're also substantially better than any other team in the region.
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>dlg cannot win with a hero that can instantly delete anyone in lane from full starting at level 3 and then proceeds to be unkillable starting at level 6
silver downplayers have to be trolling or retarded in the literal sense surely
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>>570181259
Your mistake is assuming everyone talking about Silver plays her
I just call it like I see it (correctly)
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>>570181259
What hero are you talking about? Clearly not Silver as that hero deals 0 damage in lane.
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>>570177704
>>570179113
i feel like i know exactly which artist this is imitating but i can't quite put my penis on it....
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My Mcguiniss just straight up tanked the first wave trying to shoot the enemy victor and viscous and immediately died 10 seconds in. Like, what the fuck am i supposed to do? We lost tower in five minutes. This is a phantom lobby. I really should just start going afk when this shit happens
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>>570177469
She is and they even gave her a dumb sounding asian accent to make it even more blatant but people don't care about that kind of racism.
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>Leviathan had SUCH a bad game challenger that they kicked Oses off the team and he started flaming on twitter.
KKEEEEEKKK
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>>570181628
Again, that artstyle could be literally any Jap NTR artist
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Seven has 57% winrate at 50% pickrate in E6 and nobody cares that he is consistently better than all the FOTM shit that people bitch about.
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>interrupting a game commentary to bring us the latest in PROFESSIONAL ESPORTS DRAMA

Could've saved it for the post game at least. Some player getting kicked from his imploding team, after losing.
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>Every cut shows another hero building gun
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>>570182026
SNIIIFIFIIFFFFFF uh hh SNORORRRGGFFFFFF
guhhh SNIFFOROOGFFFFF
fuuuuck SNIFFFFFFFFF!!!
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>>570180716
>silver is only good in the bracket with tourney-level team coordination and still needs a real carry on her team for her to leech off of
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KWAB
https://xcancel.com/osesdeadlock/status/2064876185910177854#m
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his bitching aside why did they decide to make oses the scapegoat? i thought he played decently that game
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>>570182106
>eternus
>tourney-level team coordination
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>>570182210
is oses a different skin color? if so there you go
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Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>570182210
Egos all around, as the tweet said. His included.

This is still an extension of competitive FARTS after all. It'll take a while for level heads to prevail.
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>>570182318
I accept your concession
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>>570182141
nigga rushed weakening headshot on seven
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God BWC just fucking sucks.
How do you lose to FUCKING MLC this many times in a row.
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I'm so fucking done with this game dude, game after game of just getting raped in lane. Nothing else matters, if you win lane you just win the entire game. You know how the match is going to go 30 seconds in if your lane partner is retarded or not. I just went AFK two games in a row out of sheer frustration at the laning phase.
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they do lots of things!
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>>570182141
>>570182210
>>570182395
he's a fucking 18 year old screaming russian kid that didn't even get to immortal after 6,000 hours of dota 2. most likely he was trying to flame his team because he's still young enough to refuse to accept accountability for his play.
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>>570182141
You know he was screeching on comms and they called him a retard.
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>>570182649
>Every support in the game
>Honest

>Seven, Warden, Paradox
>Dishonest

What the fuck is your definition of honest? Are you black?
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What is the dedicated diaper character and why is it Silver?
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>>570181906
why would they kick their best player???
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What posesses people to continue playing when i'm afking at the fountain from minute 5? The match is over retards, stop defending and let this shit end
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>>570183213
Dimov just got there why would they kick him.
Yeah though idk why they would kick their 2nd best one though.
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raped bitch teams
>Leviathan
>Floormen
who else
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>>570183219
graves schizo... you relapsed...
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>dead even game
>lose 1 urn fight at 20 mins
>enemy team gets +20k souls + midboss
lmfaooooooooooooooooooo AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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>Go woke go... win the match?
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>>570183543
41% of this group's players won't make it to the next tournament
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Has there been a single deadlock NS game where it wasn't very clear who was going to win by minute 15.
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>>570183543
The Band of Thebes of Deadlock...
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>>570179252
there's way more fun characters in that slop though. Like cho or the muscles guy that drops a tacticle nuke when he grabs a tank.
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I really like playing support in games in general, but man this game specifically makes me feel like if i'm not carrying, there's no hope to win. Really makes supports feel bad to play.
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>>570183761
cho is just an aoe stun nigga
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>>570183789
*nom nom nom nom* free my nigga cho, put him in doota icefraud
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>>570183767
I've had the opposite experience, support has been the only role I've had success on
When your idiot teammates try to counter the stove, you can just force them to win anyway or at least pull them out
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>>570183543
woke won
chuds lost
oses roped
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>>570183543
*misses affliction*
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>>570148391
Are the silver nerfs in the room with us right now? lmao
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Silver objectively needs nerfs
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THEY FUCKING FIRST PICKED GT AGAIN
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>She's just too effective over the course of the game. She's a durable threat at all stages with just too much damage.
I'm telling you, guys, these casters have got Silver Derangement Syndrome, and the worst case of it I've ever seen. I think they might be stuck with it for life.
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>>570184590
if she objectively needs nerfs why did i just go 2/8/1 on her?
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What the fuck were they thinking????????????????????
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>>570182141
is this the faggot that started crying about the iran war "taking a toll" on him?
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tankslop is killing this game
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Which hero has the most delicious milk and why is it Rem?
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>>570181002
guy on the right seems to be turning into mr. satan ever so slowly
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>>570184590
Silver needs a nerf to her bush density
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>>570185325
what character would Mr. Satan play?
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>>570185361
Lash is that even a question
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>>570185361
Lash
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>>570184776
The casters hardly play the game and would never dare doubt their players as if they did they would be admitting the "pro" aspect of this is literally made up. Since those "pros" have Silver derangement inside their DLNS bubble, that means the casters do. And since the meta is decided by people repeating the casters repeating the delusions of their ""pros"" the entire game is balanced on SDS
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>>570185325
Jason drank from one of his piss bottles on stream during one of the DLNS episodes.
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>>570183219
I WILL win 5v6
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Why?
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>>570183219
You can do loonier stuff, and take bigger risks without your team shrieking as much.

Play to surpass your limits.
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>n-no y-you...
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so with the new urn does it matter who actually drops it off? or just which team completes it?
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>y-you're c-coping..
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My first thought is Deadlock is nowhere near as cinematically pleasing to watch as dota, when in that free camera mode.

My second thought is that Doorman shenanigans wins again.
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>>570186374
you get jackpot for delivering, and team gets souls for confirming.
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>>570186456
too many blind spots, that's urn, mid boss is even worse
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>Happy Pride Xister!
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what if rejuv charges still granted the other team souls
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>First pick GT
>Do nothing all game
What's the plan?
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>The entity known as "The Doorman" is an ancient extraplanar fledgling god and cosmic being who used to slaughter and torment humans a long time ago, feeling glee at their fear and misery.
>At some point, the fledgling god decided to experience life on Earth disguised as a human for a few weeks, and somehow became involved with the Baroness Hotel in New York as soon as it opened. He adopted the title of "The Doorman" as his name to stay grounded in his new role, and enjoyed it so much that he has stayed at the Baroness ever since.
Right, and all this freak does is open doors and carry luggage? Not likely.
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Doorman too strong
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>>570187171
I genuinely expected nothing and im still disappointed.
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>Falsely banned twice for cheating playing Gray Taloon.
he links his Steam profile which has a ton of comments on it talking about him being a cheater in CS lol?
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>MLC dominates NA so much that it's boring
>yet they couldn't beat even the weakest EU team
NA is such a snoozefest.
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Holy fuck I don't care about the retardism on the feedback forum. This isn't news, faggots have been shitting it up since late 2024, it used to be full of Russians crying about being banned for cheating or spamming clips of them ACTUALLY cheating.

These screenshots are weaksauce cheapchips in comparison
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BWC is so shit but i love them as a team anyways
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egg on victor good?
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>get a new player so it's an instant loss
>lose rank
>win
>don't rank up
???
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>>570187285
mlc got btfo by floormen and theyre only winning because fmen died and fpsl is going through pains rn
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>>570187681
It's alright for a lane item. Make sure to sell by like 10 minutes though.
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>>570187840
i gotta greed for 30min
I NEED TO
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MLC sweep.
bad team but still leagues ahead of the rest of NA.
meme region.
now time for me to queue my Ascendant NA pubs.
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>>570187982
>Ascendant NA pubs
Also known as EU Oracle
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>floormen lose their 1 (one) eu player
>instantly go from dominating to disbanding
lmao na is a complete joke
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>>570187982
>losing with victor
i could probalby win a few night shift games even though im seeker
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>>570188339
did they seriously get so raped that they disbanded? no fucking way bro
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>>570187915
memes asides victor reached the 4 active item limit really fast (infuser, scourge, eth shift, refresher, warp stone, cult sac etc.)
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>>570188339
>>570188408
Didn't they lose against EU's literal memeteam (Leviathan) just before disbanding?
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>>570188775
you can sell cult sac lategame and your supportsissy rem is supposed to buy scourge for you
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why are teams playing viscous all of a sudden? hasn't he been giga nerfed/bottom 3 for months? there's no way he's a better support than rem/kelvin, especially for this meta. is there some secret chinese build or urn interaction that i'm not seeing?
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>enemy takes mid
>"hey let's do urn, we're stronger than them"
>could splitpush but already know where this game is headed when everyone else agrees
>kill them 10 times but still lose
>gain the advantage later, think things are going ok
>two of us are dead, 6 of them are alive
>"hey let's do urn"
you'll never guess what happened next
also apparently if you bounce to mo as he's tunneling you'll just swirl around him until he surfaces before your heal registers
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>>570189264
>rem
>ballistic enhancement and sop instead of curse
stupid nigger thrower
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>>570189264
80% of people will just do what is told. Just bind "No" in your chat wheel, spam that and ping the enemy walker instead when someone talks about the urn
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>teammate dies
>immediately starts barking orders over vc
holy cringe
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>>570189264
If I was your Rem I'd build pillow nuke and have 10+ kills and about the same assists but half the healing

I'd win
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>apollo can riposte mo and krill ult
are we deadass right now
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>>570189264
he just moves faster than most projectiles. same thing happens with Drifter ult. it will chase you if you keep moving, but it will attach if you stop moving.
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>>570189264
>berserker on gt
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>>570183761
>>570183932
Cho, Tahm Kench and Nasus would all be fun characters to rip off for deadlock.
I just want more big fat tanky chuds.
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>>570189665
he's lorewise the strongest ixian
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>Dispel Magic doesn't cleanse Bebop's bomb
I'm sorry what
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>>570189984
literally every tanky character in the game is S tier right now. do a shitton of damage
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>>570189546
If you were my Rem, I'd suck your shota nipples
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>>570189997
Lorewise he's made specifically to hilt Abrams' BIC (Big Ixian Cock)
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>>570189665
It has a hit box of course you can riposte it
Hell you can Counterspell it
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>>570182141
wtf did someone get kicked off a team live on stream?
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I wish you didn't reply to my post
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>>570190194
it cleanses one bomb, but not the second bomb
if you get double bombed you still have to eat half the shit
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C&C
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>>570190227
tank metas are kino and carry metas are cringe, simple as.
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>>570190393
or maybe it doesn't and I'm going schizo
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I'm a scrub. But how do I handle The silver matchup as holliday?
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why nyot?
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>>570190194
>>570190393
It cleanses the bomb, but a cleansed bomb drops to the ground and continues to tick
You have to move after you dispel or the bomb will still hit you
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>>570190553
Jumppad around like a spastic and she can't ever interact with you while you pelt her with barrels.
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>>570190553
>But how do I handle The silver matchup as holliday?
Wrangle the bitch
Like this
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I pooped myself
silver player btw
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>>570190194
it used to, but now it just drops the bomb on the ground, you can still avoid the damage by running away from it after you use dispel
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>>570176450
first of all, the OP is one of the hottest images ive ever seen. Not hotter than some of the top ivy pictures, but still. Damn.
Second, I'm 35 years old and in the top 1%. I hope that makes zoomers mad. I hope some 18 year old is reads this (like oses)
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>>570190445
nigger
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>>570191532
Thats what I call my poops after they split my log cutter a bit
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Five losses in a row now where I lose because I can't carry a 1-14 Viscous or 2-13 Seven and their hyperscalers realize they can focus fire me for a free win. What the fuck is with these teams it's giving me?
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>>570189090
his splatter nukes people as long as they don't get spell breaker
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>>570182718
>18 year old
>6000 hours on Dota
>3600 hours on Deadlock
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>>570179113
paige fucks DOGS
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>>570192056
its 10 hours a day for less than 3 years unc
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>>570191115
Holiday ult is 115s cooldown for a 2.25 sec duration
Silver ult is a 40 second cooldown and a 15 sec duration
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pov you play dashfurnus and ult in the middle of every teamfight
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>>570192056
where did you see his deadlock hours?
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average deadlock player
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>>570192407
Paige rips HOT STINKY ASS on my dick
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>>570193557
Gee, when you put it like that, I guess a hard lockdown that pulls her into your team (which will be up for roughly every second ult of hers (because she's almost guaranteed to not be fighting the instant she respawns) isn't that good. It just doesn't have good uptime.
Oh well, I guess that's that and you're fucked then
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>>570176450
i feel like the people i play with started ignoring me after i reached eternus 6 they are still e3
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>>570190553
disarming sex and pelt her from the air with your barrels
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>>570193557
Lasso will be up every time you need it.
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its so funny when people dive victor and rem in lane
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>>570181628
its ushiroman
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>3 retards literally afk farming the jungle on top of each other
>I get flamed for catching waves at the Walker
huh. I ended the match with 2x the damage of each of the afk junglers and the flaming retard too.
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>>570197718
now i think about it it could be shinjiro as well
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Victor's gun is pretty bad. terrible accuracy and bullet velocity.
or am I doing something wrong?
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>>570198046
over half of my archon matches go like this. either all 5 permanently stuck in our side of the jungle, or upon getting rejuvs they randomly all decide to stop playing the game and let the enemies take every objective afterwards
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>>570198335
>my shitlow matches are bad
no way bro...........
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>>570198216
gun victor is the most w+m1 gameplay in any multiplayer shooter ever made (even more than heavy, soldier76 etc.). you literally just walk into their face, or preferably, into an objective
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>>570198216
It has good baseline DPS and the accuracy/velocity don't matter if you use it up close where victor wants to be anyway.
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>>570198390
higher rank than you
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>>570177704
>>570192407
did you make your own lora? all i could find created with anima was graves's lora
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>>570198974
oops wrong reply meant to reply to these
>>570179113
>>570177704
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>>570198390
Oracle-PA play worse than archy games and I have no idea why.
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>>570198064
ah shinjiro was the one that i was thinking of, that's definitely it.
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just noticed something. i almost always rank up in a game if i go 0 deaths, but if i have 3+ deaths it takes 2-3 games to rank up
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I'm not gay and I'm not making one of those jokes where I follow up by saying something gay, I just think victor is really good looking and Im really fixated on victor fanart. I wish I could look like him.
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>>570200551
yeah you're gay
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>>570200592
No it's not homolust, it's just admiring someone's angular features
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>>570200551
sure buddy
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>>570201070
Don't post this slut in my general, she's distracting me
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would you fuck rem? what if he was a girl?
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>>570201395
Get off 4chan Billy
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>>570198461
yeah I guess just trying to shoot in lane or when out of aura range is super unreliable for me though.
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how do i find people to play with i have no friends and i am kinda getting tired of solo que
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>>570202158
work on yourself first
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so what's Seven's anti-heal item, do you ever sell Healbane for something else?
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>>570200551
bait and gay but i unironically agree. victors design visually and thematically is really appealing to me and his gameplay admits to the power fantasy im after when playing the game
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>>570202375
toxic bullets can be good
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>>570202092
not sure what i'm lookin at here
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>>570202158
either have irl friends who are interested in the same games as you or just add some rando speaking the same language as you. this happened just recently to me. someone added me asking to play because we were both finnish and we just became friends instantly
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>>570202158
You're better off in soloqueue, matchmaking is so horrible for squads that my friends and i gave up on playing together, we all soloqueue now
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>>570202375
nah keep healbane and you can add toxic bullets in there too. but if you're against a victor/shiv you want silencer or inhib or both
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>>570202676
I am too scared of socializing even online people do add me from time to time i get scared and don't wanna seem like a freak
>>570202756
i don't really care about mm i already reached E6 i just wanna have friends i guess
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>>570200551
i wish i could draw him
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>>570203103
And i stopped playing with my friends so i could get better matches and win more, and hopefully rank up, and i'm still stuck in phantom. We're two sides of a fucked up coin.
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is indomitable the most useless item in the game?
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Hi I'm initiate/ seeker and I'm encountering an common problem in my games.

The enemy team will often hard push the walkers immediately after lane. They will basically ignore all the jungle and sinners, and will group in on a single lane to push the objectives. Sometimes they show up for urn, its 50/50

I know this is not what high level play looks like, but I don't know enough about the game to punish them for it, or guide my team to play around it.

If I ignore them to push a side lane and farm, the 2 other walkers will inevitably go down and then the whole enemy team shows up to squash me. If I focus on defending the walkers I'm usually very outnumbered and it goes down while my team doesn't seems to accomplish anything in the meantime.
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>>570202548
it's rem jerking his very small penis to the clown girl's giant futa cock and balls
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>>570203683
>t. Wraith
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>>570203812
why not group with your team?
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can't wait for vegas's updated tierlist tomorrow where he stops slotting Calico in at 'F - unplayable' tier now that they picked her in DLNS and I've been seeing people meme about it in E6 pubs.
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>>570203812
Run down the opposite lane and take their walker lol if your retard teammates wont coordinate a defense at least try to turn it into a trade. Spam pings for urn and when you want help. half the niggers in this game are so indecisive that they spend more time running between objectives that they cant make it to in time than anything else. In my experience if you take over the decision making for them they listen. As soon as you're able to defend a walker follow your wave and kill the next wave or two of their minions so you get lane priority back and can go do other shit for a bit. It'll give you some time to respond next time they try to push.
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>>570203812
I climbed out from initiate I remember this happening and always pissing me off. It's like playing in a bot match. Jungle and sinner's just doesn't exist, ganking doesn't exist, they just win lane and run at the walker over and over until it falls over and it probably will if your team is just too stupid to notice in time.

I just perma ran Wraith and solo took walkers in games where my team was just scattered around the map like retards. I know you said you tried that, but I dunno what heroes you run and some are just really bad at doing this while Wraith is very good at it. Defending a walker when there's three people on it is just a waste of time. You're better off just trading walkers than trying to defend a lost cause alone, especially since they're splitting up their money and you hog it all to yourself so you can outscale.
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>>570203812
>>570204437
Also depending on if its viable for your character run alch fire for walker defense. It's incredibly helpful for zoning and giving others time to show up.
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I had a dream in which I kissed Holliday
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>>570204396
Vegas is a faggot sperg.
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reminder kelvin and seven were boyfriends
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>>570204823
Sorry Kelvin in fact got Seven's wife killed
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>>570204161
then the whole game turns into street brawl and I know that's not how the game is played when the players are good. I suppose its also worth pointing out that my team will also do the same thing a lot

>>570204437
>>570204454
>>570204576
thanks I'll try to consider this. I mostly play holiday, idk if she's any good at taking objectives but in can try changing my build around that strat. I also tried some doorman and I think he's considered good at it because you can safely escape.
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reminder Pocket only has nonbinary pronouns as a reference to Puck
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>>570205249
Holliday's rough for solo climb out of the troglodyte ranks, not great at killing objectives and doesn't scale that well so she really has a hard time carrying unless you're just light years ahead of the enemy in terms of skill. Ultimately play whoever's fun but it'll probably be tough
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>>570202676
>2 finns met and became friends
What...
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>>570201395
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Valve should add another vampire to deadlock.
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>>570205530
yes? what are you confused about
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I cant do edgeboosts. I am phantom.
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>win lane super hard
>lose game because niggers go 12 deaths in other lanes even though you help them get ahead
>helping them gets you killed 90% of the time
>losers queue for 6 games
thanks yoshi
i voted for this
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>>570206468
I don't even know what they really are and I'm ascendant
It's all bullshit, I just play the game
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I'm new to mobas so I don't get this but why is the comeback mechanic for being 10% down in souls the exact same as being 50% down in souls? I don't understand. Like if the game is a total shitstomp can't there be SOMETHING to make it at least semi playable?
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>>570203812
Take an opposite walkers, walkers are made of butter and while they do a 5v6 you can easily take theirs and comeback. Also walkers have an aura so you should always win fights in your walkers, not a bad idea to team up if they are just 6 man pushing.

Now if your team is 5 man pushing a walker early dont fucking go, its a death sentence.
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>>570205249
>I mostly play holiday,
I could not think a worse pick to climb, doorman is a close second.
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When will they add cosmetic chat wheels?
Need to spam voicelines the enemy can hear
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>>570206731
I think they should just port the tf2 voiceline system over
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>>570206731
if you type "thank you" or "wp" in chat they can hear it
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>>570206637
https://deadlock.wiki/Souls
Its progressive until a hard cap. Comebacks are stupid easy in this game with that mechanic, the amount of times I been down on souls or seen an opposite shitter get ahead by the comeback mechanic is too much. I get the game is hard to throw when you know you are doing but seeing the 4k Vindicta taking 2 kills and a couple of sinners and suddenly catching up is too much
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>>570206776
>6 man ganks get you half souls
Holy shit this explains so much.
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>>570206776
You don't seem to be listening, I am talking about extreme stomps, not when a team is down 10%. I said when a team is down 50%, i.e. unwinabble games
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>>570206883
Because
>being 10% down in souls the exact same as being 50% down in souls?
Is factually untrue.
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>>570206468
the best players in Apex Legends use only the most basic movement tricks that everyone above platinum knows. it's different game and you get more out of movement skills in Deadlock for sure but the point still stands
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>>570206776
>>570206845
Solo kills are important to look at here too, solo kills can cause massive soul swings and you're unironically getting griefed when you spend 15 seconds winning a 1v1 only for your teammate nearby to rotate in and soak half the souls for doing 1/10 of the work
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>>570204396
Who picked calico?
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>>570206468
>>570206590
this game requires so many different skills between movement, positioning, aim, moba macro, and some other shit i cant think of at the moment that you can easily get by being "bad" at one thing if you're good enough at the others to make up for it
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>>570207010
I guess this is the reason sometimes I just pop off with Yamato, I look at my souls and I am just so ahead of everyone.
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>>570207309
Yeah solo kills are one of the biggest sources of huge individual soul swings in the first 20 minutes of the game
There's also
>Killing an enemy hero will award more souls if that hero is stronger than the killer team's average networth, regardless of which team is leading in souls.
Combining this with a solo kill is how you get those instances where someone goes from lost lane, super poor, to suddenly #1 or #2 souls in the whole lobby
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Calico was functionally irrelevant to those night shift games
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6k player dmg at 24 minutes to end with 53k at 40 minutes lol
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>>570180716
Are you genuinely retarded?
Your own image disproves what you're trying to say
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>>570208024
he finished cultivating, junior.
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>>570206949
Not much of one desu
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every single game in archon is who gets the raped 50/50
it takes one chimp playing a hero they cant pilot, some dogshit item build, 7 deaths in a 15 minute game, an urn at advantage that nobody follows you to help with

i can write them all off the top of my hand. it's unironically you either are an autistic savant at some niche hero or abuse a hypercarry if you even want to get out of the dregs because there are too many game ruining factors at play that you just gamble with every time you hit the queue button. i'm stuck in 35 minute slogs i know there's no potential in, people continue to clear the waves as if there's some vague hope. my geist for the 15th time has opted for the bomb build so not only can he not kill anything the pilot playing him will pat himself on the back looking at his damage on the end screen and thought 'i must be so useful'

there's genuinely just no enjoyment to be had. the people who sit on 46% winrates that I get queued into constantly shouldn't even be breathing anywhere near my bracket in the first place. do you find enjoyment in there never being a balanced game on either side? what is the point if someone on a vague streak on a fresh account can just play in the same bracket as you

it's a joke, i can feel my interest in this game stagnating in real time as i know there's no improvement to be had unless i am explicitly raping every single game which is just not realistic in the slightest. dota was so much better than this slop even though deadlock is fun
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>>570208970
Silver is a manchest flatty. Otherwise, her werewolf would have tits
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>>570208714
I literally solo carried my games in archon, they were really bad
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>0-9-2 bebop with trophy collector
Why buy it if you're not going to perform?
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>>570209467
I need (You) to get the kills for me. Yes. (You).
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>>570209467
I never understand players with NO assists and high deaths
Like, the game practically gives assist credits for sneezing at an enemy that someone else kills, and you're telling me someone in fights enough to have an embarrassing number of deaths hasn't managed fucking any?
Genuinely what the fuck are these people doing in fights.
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>>570208714
It feels like every game comes down to the worst and the best player on either team.
And just one isn't enough to guarantee it, you can have a god-tier player on your team that has 10,000 hours in multiple different video games and he'll still eat shit and lose because the worst player on your team fed twice as hard as their worst player.
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>>570209586
>Doorman carting people to walkers
Sure, I'll get the kills for you.
>Bebop
Either perform or leave my game.
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what is the counter to a ricochet wraith m1gger with an ivy rammed in her asshole (healing tempo + heroic aura) holding m1 in your teams general direction shooting 100000000000000 rounds per second
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What is the enthusiasm for Deadlock in (you)r country? here in France it's pretty much dead, some ecelebs making videos here and there but frogs really don't play valve multiplayer games DotA and CS are pretty much dead in presence
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>>570209656
Watch your replays to find what you're doing wrong.
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Silver went 3-1
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>>570205510
>>570206721
what makes a character good for soloing objectives / climbing with? Is it just a matter of high dps?
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>>570210081
Metal skin
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>>570206845
Explains why Im always poor despite having extremely high kill participation. What a gay system.
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>>570210778
>High dps
>Easy escape tool
Wraith is an obvious one for these reasons.
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>>570210081
Curse, same as always.
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>>570210081
juggernaut
disarming hex
suppressor
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>I'm just gonna say it, Lash is awesome and he kicked Bebop's ass.
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I want to splash hydrochloric acid in the face of anyone who uses the term "girl failure"
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>>570210824
wraith is a spirit damage m1gger like infernus
>>570210907
*divine barrier from ivy*
>>570210915
initiateGOD
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>>570211148
Calm down Ahmed
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>>570211163
2 curses then
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>>570210778
No, you need to be able to do some kind of solo plays, and its not a carry thing. Rem can solo take walkers with his helpers insanely fast, especially at low mmrs, doorman can remove someone from a big fight, etc etc.

Holliday cannot do solo kills, she cannot take objectives fast and her damage unless you are a headshot god is mediocre. By all means if she is your fav spam her, you will climb, and she gets better the better your teammates, also unpicked heroes have the advantage people don't know how to play against and spam pickers like Holliday can wreck games if played properly
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>>570210881
Stop 6 man grouping, its bad.
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>>570209656
From personal experience it results in trying really hard to make plays that end up going nowhere
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>>570211163
She doesn't have an in built add like Infernus. If she is spamming cards just colossus spellbreaker, plated armor too
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>>570211163
>initiateGOD
his problem is the wraith holding m1 shooting, i quote "100000000000000 rounds per second", so just counter it properly and counter her m1. you're retarded for saying "wraith is a spirit damage m1gger" when that's not his problem, you want him to itemize for a non-existent problem
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>>570208970
After they buff her (she needs buffs)
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These nightshift faggots picking calico are gonna get her nerfed again when she's already abysmal I can't believe the audacity of these fucking "pro" players
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>>570182106
So according to the thread
>Silver easy to counter, just kite her/counterbuy. If you can't do that you're bad
>Also ignore her stats at the highest rank, where people statistically counterbuy the most, and also have the best movement, because it only represents a small percentage of the playerbase therefore doesn't count
Am I following correctly? How exactly do we square "If you think she's strong you're bad at the game, ignore every good player who thinks she's good though, only my Archon 4 solo queue games count"
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>>570212307
for me it's the
>still needs a real carry on her team for her to leech off of
language
so then is every support hero in the game bad because they need carries on their team to win?
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>>570212307
Waifufags play a strong character and can't deal with the fact they always do terribly (waifushitters are notoriously horrible at games) so they psyop the hero being weak as a cope
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what did melee creeps mean by this
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>>570211982
If it keeps the heat off of Sheev, I say good (until they do our nubian queen's visual rework)
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>>570210186
my video did an incredible 500 views!
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>I love Attila the Hun
Why did Drifter say this?
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>>570213278
Because Atilla killed a bunch of people
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>>570212536
It means xhe’s gonna be maining Silver
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>>570213278
Because he loves horseback archery
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>>570206659
>Now if your team is 5 man pushing a walker early dont fucking go, its a death sentence.
I have avoided many losses by just telling my team to disperse from a 5-man push. It's easier to convince them if there's a Lash, Dynamo, or Seven - it's happened to everyone once before.
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do i spam gun graves to climb out of pissacle?
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>>570216415
Spirit power skull-spam Graves is stronger rn
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>>570177839
I can't stop playing Ivy after getting the bunnysuit
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my recent winrate is so high i might as well be smurfing in eternus
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you are a #GayAssNigga if you run curse haze!
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its over, pack it up guys
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>>570219718
What if I want it to not be over?
There HAS to be a way to run it back
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>>570186456
Yea they should really avoid the freecam mode

Just have some preset fixed angles for each lane/obj to swap between with occasional pov. Even pov can be rough on high mobility or indoors
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>game refuses to put me in a higher rank despite having stats equal to a friend
>game refuses to put me in higher rank in general
>allowed to freely stomp shitlow
they will learn to fear my pillow
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>>570176668
I use this. Is this good?
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>>570221535
weird... can you link your statlocker?
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>>570177764
>entire enemy team builds torment pulse
>our entire team builds spirit resilience
>we win the game because an already irrelevant meme item is made completely worthless by resists which will also cuck the rest of your kit too
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who's the best m1gger rn
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>>570222267
Haze is missing
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>>570183965
>Play Support
>Actually doing effective macro things
>Play Carry
>Farm it up
>Retards don't apply any pressure on the map whatsoever so you get 5 man dived under walkers all game with full ult commits and no one bats an eye no matter how you communicate it
Support might be seriously underappreciated as a role. But it's extremely fucking important. I wish I had a clone of myself that played support. Then I could enjoy playing carries. It's literally the most insufferable thing having some worthless fucking faggot paige who never applies pressure in lane and is always late with the shields.
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>>570185086
>yamato gets to be extremely tanky, and immune to debuffs, and immune to all CC, and also do 1200 damage in 1s 12 minutes into the game
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Is the artist who made this beauty from here?
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>>570222267
Wraith
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>european
>last night keep getting put into na lobbies
>one game a lash is constantly in voice chat micro-managing everyone in the game
>is so sassy that everything he says comes across as so condescending
>he is doing alright, but not spectacular
>we win

after the game i check his profile and see that he only has about 100 games, similar to me. i'm trying to learn, i could never imagine telling someone what to do with the confidence he had with only 100 games. are americans really like this?
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>>570185086
Its rock paper scissors bro

Spirit burst gun
Gun has best dps so they beat tank
Tank will survive the spirit burst and kill them while they on cd

Rn its a spirit meta but tanks are good as a counterpick
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>>570212307
>ignore every good player who thinks she's good though
She has something like a 40% WR in Nightshift
She's doing better in urn meta, for similar reasons to why Billy does better
But I've never felt particularly threatened by a Silver that didn't get fed like 5 or more kills in the laning stage and spent the rest of the game maintaining that lead. And there isn't really any character that isn't scary if they get fed.
>>570222340
>It's literally the most insufferable thing having some worthless fucking faggot paige who never applies pressure in lane and is always late with the shields

>queue trio often with friend and his friend that I do not like
>stuck in lane with friend of friend who insists on playing paige or rem
>beg to switch lanes everytime because even a random is better than this fuckwit
>they only build damage
>they play hyper passively
>decision paralysis makes them react to shit a full second after it happens
>the two opponents in our lane note this
>I proceed to get hard focused because I'm the only one playing the game in lane
>every fucking time the paige/rem friend waits until after I get hit with all of the two enemies' cooldowns to do fucking anything, usually a full second after I'm dead
>once we get out of laning phase he spends the entire mid-game farming and lane jannying and never teamfights once
>despite playing paige and rem exclusively

I hate this guy so much it's unreal. I need to just stop playing with my friend and start solo queueing because this mongoloid tag-along idgaf about makes me not want to be friends with him anymore.
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>>570221535
my account is also in this state, i'm oracle 4 and it refuses to take me any higher. i think queueing with initiate/seeker friends when i was in archon bricked my MMR
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>>570221535
>steamname: BiteThePillow
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>>570223329
can you link your statlocker?
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>>570223227
>i could never imagine telling someone what to do with the confidence he had
>are americans really like this?
A team with a team leader will do better than one without, shrinple as.
Obv it helps if they like, know the game and stuff, but unironically just having someone on your team that looks at the map and tells people directly "Hey you should do this" or "Watch out that's risky" works wonders.
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>>570223523
>>570223329
>>570221827
>>570221535
why do people come here to complain about being stuck if theyre not gonna give any info that could potentially solve the problem/clear up the confusion
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>>570220297
>What if I want it to not be over?
you wait for yoshi to deliver us from this drought
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>>570222267
Paige, but im being 100% unironic. Expect massive nerfs once people figure it out.
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>get sinclair lane mate
>does absolutely nothing in lane
>farms waves while I'm not there
>roams and nigs out in russian while feeding
>4 people on the team are russian and I only have 1 white person on my team and they all start nigging out at eachother on voice
>absolutely no one farming, or pushing, or defending
>no one ever turns upto urn, even on comeback
>lose game in a landslide
insufferable. fuck russian nigger pigs. THEY ALL SUCK.
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>>570224273
Remember, if they introduce region lock it will kill the game according to the rusnigs
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>>570223540
yeah, but he wasn't doing that, he was being obnoxious and condescending, and also, i think he was wrong alot of the time but i'm not good enough at the game to know for certain yet, so i didn't correct him.
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If I'm just starting how many matches do I need to get to each rank above?
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>>570223961
both those guys literally gave information. one linked their steam page and the other said that queueing with low elo friends bricked his account.
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>>570224404
the more russians you have on your team the more rapidly you approach the point of your eternus lobby feeling like it's seeker. I swear they are the worst fucking players imaginable and only succeed off the back of braindead tank characters that also let them shit out damage. they get upto eternus abusing this shit and the second one of them gets banned they're absolutely useless players.
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>>570224504
3 wins IN A ROW guarantees a rank up. if you really popped off it might get shortened
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>>570224504
rank is performance + winrate, there is no one answer
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It isn't that Silver is particularly OP, it's that she is literally anti gameplay.

>don't fight her in her human form because she will charge up her wolf form
>don't fight her in her wolf form because she will rape you

you literally just have to avoid her
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>>570223961
If you are stuck its probably because valve mmr is like quicksand. The more games you play in archon the more "certain" the mm is that you are archon, the more games needed to break out

It is egregious, I had a drunk cs account that had about 1k games in mg, would take me 20+wins to rank up and 1 or 2 to lose rank. Its perma stuck smurfing

I think valve knows this is retarded because valve is actually not retarded but keeps it because it makes the new account numbers look good

To juxtapose,I made a new account and calibrated lem in 14 games and hit ge shortly after
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>>570223227
>eurosissy gets ordered around by zesty AmeriBVLL for 40 minutes
>definitely didn't like it
>wins
>complains
i love you guys, you're adorable
t. American
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>>570224118
People know about gun paige, she gets shut down too ez because no escape or stam
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>>570223227
any call, even a bad one, is better than no call 99% of the time
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>>570224515
>one linked their steam page
where? if you mean the name posted i couldnt find it on steam. the other one is making guesses on what happened. theres no proof playing with initiate friends would do that to your mmr. just link the fucking statlocker so we can see stuff that actually matter like winrate and general stats since the game now takes those into account as well
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>>570224530
They also cheat
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>>570224665
i added him after the game and told him he shouldn't speak to people like that, especially strangers. just didn't do it during the game because it is counterproductive to winning.

he apologised. he is not an AmeriBVLL just someone who didn't get taught any manners.
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>>570224629
Just run away from the character with build-in gap closers, stamina block, ult resets, additional move speed and stacking fire rate. Shouldn't be difficult if you're good at the game oh and btw I just got to Oracle just letting you know!
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>>570224629
Have you considered just killing her?>>570224790
>2 stam hero is hard to get away from
lmao get good
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>>570224790
i didn't say run away from her, i said avoid her. if she is on one side of the map, i am on the other side of the map. simple as.

i simply will not participate until it's fixed, same with the urn. no thanks, not getting involved.
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>>570185086
Frontliners kinda need to be strong otherwise they just get instant melted by every carry in the game.
Billy is a good example, before his health buff he had sub 50% winrate in every single elo since it was so easy to put him down before his blasted stacks became relevant.
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>climbs up rope
>uses my movement ability
Damn it's so hard to get away from silver
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Silver players be like: "it's so unfair how all the CC in the game only affects my character."
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>>570225169
This she should be immune to cc then no one could deny that she's op
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>>570223961
Because they'd get exposed like the frauds they are.
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>open e6 deadlock streamer
>modded game (cheating)
>check another
>another cheater
>ok surely next one is playing fair
>next one is cheating too
why is this allowed
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>>570225064
This is fucking BULLSHIT
I should be able to 1 v 1 every hero in the game
Are you telling me to respect the enemy's cooldowns and abilities? What is this, a moba???
I hope that the new batch of heroes causes more successive seethe. These hero shooter fags would lose their mind at stuff like Karthus or Garen
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>>570225434
Exactly, why do I have to respect Silver I just want to m1 this is bullshit
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>>570224767
goes without saying.
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>>570225278
no chud, lebron james abrams isnt a cheat
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>>570224629
i'm more annoyed by her gun
that thing does a surprising amount of damage at an equally surprising range, and is only further empowered by her 1
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>>570225278
I've seen like 1 eternus "content creator" that isn't a massive faggot. On top of that, they ALL look like discord groomers.
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>>570224865
>haha lol 2 stam hero how can you struggle to escape from her??? *builds stamina mastery, warp stone, weighted shots, point blank, slowng hex every game*
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>>570226223
what's stopping you from buying those
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>>570226223
bola is enough for her to catch up honestly, plus they buy superior duration these days so it's mad annoying
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>>570226223
ye its so unfair that silver can buy items to offset her weaknesses why cant i do that?
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>>570224629
>It isn't that Silver is particularly OP, it's that she is literally anti gameplay.
This except Graves and she is overpowered, you're delusional if you say otherwise
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For every game I lose against Silver I win 7 others
How is this the character people complain about? There's so many stronger and more consistently good characters in the game.
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>>570225278
Mikaels and Fargareko are the only honest e6 players left. I have seen mikaels try to calculate comeback urn in his head and be told by his loser teammate that he's wrong (because said loser uses cheatlock).
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>grey talon is allowed pop his funny flight that rapes you every 9s
>every bullet in lane doing 100+ damage
>30% slow built in
>for literal 0 investment he also gets to charge shot his own traps and turn them into AOE curses that disable ultimates
>valve thinks this is okay
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>>570227313
Um ur low rank ok in eternus shes good because everyone is a pussy that's too afraid to fight her and kill her
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>>570227412
Just counter play him ok stop being bad
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What if Silver isn't actually overpowered and people just think she is because they always have that thing where she's on top of you mauling you to death and you can't run and that just sticks in the mind
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>>570227640
>bwo just hide under bridge
>lane is permanently pushed into our tower
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>>570227803
bro like just phantom strike him lol
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Who do so many of the old characters have burst fire guns?
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>>570227676
Selective memory
You remember the Shiv that goes 20/0 and kills you with two knifes while being invincible, you don't remember the other nine Shivs that go 1/11
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>>570223325
>She has something like a 40% WR in Nightshift
No she does not lol
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>>570228120
Yeah she does lmao
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>>570227868
bro just knockdown him
>it's on such a low cooldown they just happily down dash to the floor and are back up in the air seconds later
LOL
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>>570226818
Okay so then there's no point in bringing up her having two stamina because she always buys items to offset that.
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>backlog of games keeps piling up
>just keep playing deadlock
Fuck man I cant stop
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>>570228539
Just like there's no point pretending she's hard to counter.
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Silver is definitely a must-pick guys, we're not making fools out of ourselves at all
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>im stuck in seeker but I know all I can do is learn from my own mistakes and hope I get teamates who dont have coleslaw for brains that do the same
>"post statlocker"
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when is haze getting nerfed
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thinking of trying silver after getting buttfucked in lane.
I looking at builds and wondering y no one build fire rate on this charatere?
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>>570228631
What do you think are her counters, and why are they more effective on her than other heroes? When answering, consider that the hero is overtuned compared to most of the cast, and so a counter item or counterplay has to be uniquely good into the character. See slowing hex disabling 3 of Apollo's 4 abilities if you need an example.
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>>570228912
Don't, she's trash.
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>>570228912
>fire rate on this charatere?
Your werewolf fire rate scales off spirit. If you want firerate just get 4.8k spirit... or more. I like getting boundless later, it boosts your overall damage (your 2 and 3 has spirit scaling) and firerate.
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>>570228658
>pro
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>>570228912
There's no point in building fire rate because your goal is to slam your 1, 2 and 3 keys landing all three abilities (this is important) to transform into a wolf to press 1, 2 and 3 again, maybe you hold M1 while your abilities are on cooldown then but the wolf form has so much fire rate you don't need any more. Her numbers are extremely high inherently so you usually only buy a few damage items and then build greens for survivability and utility.
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>>570228912
Slamfire gives you so much firerate that any more you buy is completely superfluous, ult gets stacking firerate for free.
If you're ever at a point in the game where hitting your combo + all 3 slamfire shots doesn't get you into ult then more firerate is not going to make much of a difference.
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Will "return fire" on a tank kill a haze ult?
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>>570229431
nope used to a long time ago
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>>570228967
>her counters
Rusted/disarming, slowing hex, warp stone, metal skin, any item that gives mobility, climbing a rope, not getting caught alone, not being retarded, just to name a few
>more effective on her than other heroes
When did I claim that? Just saying she had just as many if not more counters as any other hero and you're free to utilise them instead of crying.
>she's overturned
I see you'd rather cry than getting good, stay bad.
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>>570229431
No, it doesn't interact with fixation at all which is where most of her damage comes from.
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>>570229431
Early, yeah. At some point you simply have to buy metal skin.
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>>570229557
Okay so if I'm understanding you correctly, you're conceding the argument because Silver, who as has been established is currently overpowered and much stronger than most of the cast, has no counterplay or items that are uniquely effective against her, bringing her down to or below the level of other heroes?
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I got yelled at for playing too passive as Victor but I don't really know what do without ult early/mid game.
Like I just pepper them with muh one and my 3 does more damage to me than anything.
My end game player damage is fucking abysmal tho (even tho we won), so I think my team was right I just not playing correctly
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You're never going to convince the stubborn autist that Silver isn't broken, save your time
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>>570230354
>Silver, who as has been established is currently overpowered and much stronger than most of the cast
Haha
>no counterplay or items
Haha
Stay mad, stay bad.
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>>570230418
literally just walk forward
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>>570230418
The first point into your ult which you should be maxing first makes the gun deal spirit damage when your ult is on CD, buy some gun items like opening rounds even on spirit Victor, put one point into your aura as well since the move+dash slow lets you walk at someone for longer and makes it easier to shoot them. You're probably underestimating how much you can get away with also. You can just walk at people.
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>>570230631
I don't think this is an effective argument either, the post you're replying to is so short you couldn't have missed the context of "no counterplay or items that are uniquely effective against her". Could you stop being insincere and try to respond properly? You're basically surrendering to me entirely like this.
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silver is op because she gives me a boaner and then i cann not focus
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>>570230635
I do once I hit some gud tier 4 items and have ult and such. Late game I just make space walking forward, but early/mid is kinda hard especially if we're behind.
>>570230716
>buy some gun items
I might just try that. I'm thinking of just hitting my 4.8 gun first early, because I rush scourge pretty early anyway.
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>>570230975
>Could you stop being insincere and try to respond properly
You first.
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>>570228176
Ok, I'm recovering from a back surgery so I'm bored as shit and I decided to fact check this

I'll give it up. It's not 40% but it's not good either.
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I hate how cartoony vyper's eyes are on-model
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>>570232986
>most picked hero in the highest level of play
>48% winrate
There's no doubt about it, the sample size is big enough to prove that the hero isn't overpowered.
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My all hero challenge progresses now to Victor
He feels more fragile than I'm expecting, and I'm wondering if that's because I'm playing him too reckless too early
Is his aura kind of a trap if you're cripplingly underfarmed? I know your battery is powered by your damage but it seems like if you're underfarmed enough it's going to kill you as fast as it kills your enemies
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>>570233281
I wish they had actual lifetime stats for stuff like this it would be interesting to compare
As far as I know the stats they show are always previous week or maybe previous two weeks
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we have you now
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>>570192707
That's just two games though.
>>570193667
steam profile
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>>570233281
and it proves she isn't "Z-tier auto lose bad" like people in here say either
as usual the truth sits in the middle
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>>570227412
>venator traps can be shot
>mcginnis turrets can be shot
>graves skulls and zombies can be shot
>gt trap and owl are both invincible
defend this
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>>570233719
Spammable
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why is nigfernus allowed to do thousands of damage to you with his passive
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>>570233707
She's like strong B tier maybe weak A tier.
I'm just sick of the people pretending she's S+++ the most op meta defining hero in the game.
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>>570233906
just buy dispel magic to cleanse it once a minute even though he can reapply it in 0.3 seconds
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why are the thread trannies so obsessed with silver
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>>570233906
That's every character with an on-hit passive for their gun. All of them should be removed or reworked to be like Seven's power surge, where you activate it and then have to land a certain number of shots in a time frame or else you waste it.
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>>570234217
furries are on the same tier as russians when it comes to being insufferable
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>>570233926
Kind of where I'm at but more on the opposite side, I never thought she was super OP but I knew the people saying she's weak or "auto-lose" were retarded too
Whenever I play her there's never a moment where I'm thinking "this hero sucks, I wish I was playing something else" which is way more grace than you can give to a hero like Calico or Billy for a while there before the urn changes
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>>570234271
mina's passive seems balanced enough. they just need to add some sort of cooldown to afterburn so you don't have it constantly reapplied to yourself. mirage sort of already has this built in since he needs to build up stacks over time, the problem is more so you take thousands of damage very suddenly
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>>570234779
>Mina's passive
>Balanced

>Shoots you like 5 times and deals 1/3rd of your entire HP bar in lane
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>>570234301
are we gonna have another crashout in the thread where we get spammed with gore
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>>570234217
how can (You) not be obsessed with her? have you never seen a delicious, wet, puffy fortune cookie before? I feel bad for you...
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>>570235036
you're saying nothing, those are just words
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>>570235036
If a cookie is wet and puffy the chef fucked up big time
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>>570231218
Spirit Rend (the t3) + kdash / opening rounds (choose your preference for midgame) is an excellent all rounder 4.8k for Victor's 4.8k gun.
Spitit rend gives you the lifesteal of a t2 green, the shred of a t2 spirit item AND the gun damage of a t3 gun, it's pretty nice all things considered. And if you're going early scourge I assume you have early EE, which stacks with spirit rend.
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>>570235309
Also spirit rend helps your team, unlike EE which only applies to you.
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>vacced nigger turns off cheats
>sucks fucking dick
just ban them all from the playtest
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>>570235673
Woah
Reverse 1337 days since VAC ban
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>>570234271
Hard agree, passive abilities are cancer. Just even more proof that Venator is the only honest m1chad, he doesn't rely on stupid passives to do his damage for him and actually has to aim his ult too.
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Melee character with a passive that makes him crush the next parry when?
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>>570235673
Who thought it was a good idea for VACniggers to be allowed into a playtest? And you just know that Valve isn't actually monitoring them to develop anticheat methods for public release, it's like dangerous criminals that are declared to be unfit to stand trial and then... released into the public only to commit crimes again
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is this a normal damage spread for Seven?
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>>570236209
>48 minutes
Yes, absolutely.
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Seven objectively needs nerfs.
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>>570235814
Passives in Deadlock are almost all extremely boring AND overpowered. Abrams has like, the only balanced passive in the entire game. Shiv has a straight up better version of it which is part of why he is so broken.

All the 'do more damage if you shoot an enemy repeatedly' gun passives really need to go since they don't make the character more mechanically interesting, it just makes them easier to play and more overpowered, and on top of that every character with a gun passive already has extremely good guns. Infernus, Mina, Mirage, and Haze all have fast-firing guns with extremely high bullet velocity.
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>>570234680
I just call her shit to counteract the delusional retards pretending she's S+++ tier.
I play her a lot and she usually feels really good except against a few specific heroes or when your team refuses to take buildings because her wave clear and building damage are abysmal.
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>>570235673
Why are people with VAC bans even allowed to play this game?
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>>570236543
no u
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>>570235673
>wow that guy's doing pretty good on haze or vindicta
>check profile
>of course its a 100 hour russian with a game ban wow nothing suspicious here :)
these people are actual scum
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>>570207010
I might have been unknowingly griefing my teammates this whole time, since I play Healing tempo Ivy and the buff itself is often enough to grant an assist.
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>>570177469
how is my penis not in your mouth
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>>570237472
by the time you have healing tempo and that kind of uptime on it it's late enough into the game that it doesn't matter
early game you can be 7k souls, solo kill someone who is 9k, and suddenly you're at 10k
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>>570233707
That's fair
Its just funny that every pro players meme hers into hitler status when paradox mogs her (I haven't checked the exact stats but I remember her having a very consistent 50+% winrate for ages in pro play)
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>>570225278
why is this retarded dipshit still pushing this retarded motive that modding is cheating
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Unstoppable on Haze, yolo ult walkers on CD
Thoughts?
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>>570235309
Hmmm I will try this.
When I used to play gun vic I think I did int mag
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>>570238072
I hate haze
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Are there any tips for playing vyper?
Should I be soloing side lanes as a backline carry?
Or should I be lurking in jungles and ganking when needed?
Im not used to being this squishy.
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>>570238072
why ult the walker instead of sliding around it are haze players actually this retarded
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>>570238229
>sliding
stupid cheating mechanics
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>>570235673
Why are russniggers like this? Is there something in their culture about justifying cheating?
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>>570238678
Yes
Some cultures just have zero problems or even normalise cheating
China is a good example, these fuckers will cheat on anything to get ahead.
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>>570238138
You're very squishy but also very mobile with your slide, depending on how your team is doing you can be a solo lane taking walkers carry but Vyper really shines in catching people off guard and bursting them down. So lurking in jungles and trying to get picks is the ideal scenerio for you, just be careful about characters that have some sort of CC because she is squishy like you said.
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>>570238070
because it is.
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>>570235673
>>570236074
>>570236759
>>570236916
>>570238678
here's a great question. I thought getting ANY vac ban completely disabled your ability to join vac servers on any game. when did that change? why are you even allowed get 'multiple' vac bans? and why did they never fix the bug that literally allows vac ban notifications to fall off people's profiles if they're old enough?
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Name a more boosted playerbase than Haze mains
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>>570239143
I thought it banned you across all VAC servers across all games. but apparently I'm just a retarded boomer.
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>>570239161
Graves and Victor
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>>570239161
Yamato players
>Immune to CC
>Immune to debuffs
>Iframes
>Free midboss
>Sustain hero
>Beefy tank
>Also gets to just crossmap gap close so positioning and movement tech are irrelevant and you'll literally never see them manage any
>Does 1000 damage in a combo every 9 seconds at first urn fight
>Gets to press ult and do it again instantly
Literally the most dishonest faggot character on the roster and people gloat when they go 16-2 every game on her. It's totally because they're good players and not because the character is hilariously overpowered or anything.
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>>570239478
It might have just been GoldSource VAC bans then. God what a retarded change.
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>>570239558
Don't care, still playing Yamato, still having fun
Are you?
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>>570239693
Well I hope you have as much fun deranking when she gets nerfed to shit some day.
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>>570239558
she's not that strong. stop trying to duel her.
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>>570239558
Yamato is weird, she's strong but you need a ton of games on her to not int
Her hook is the most bullshit part of her kit honestly, completely invalidates any movement or spacing
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>>570234217
She's just got a magnetic personality, everyone always feels the need to weigh in on how much they either love her or love to hate her. Valve just really struck gold with this design, that's for sure
On a partially related note I still need to see someone drawing her in a wedding dress
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>>570240020
>It's okay that this character is both frontline tanker and nuker and you just automatically lose duels
>Bro just buy curse, hope she doesn't have indomitable and 4v1 her. duh!
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>>570236057
>I'm a retarded faggot who can't handle not pressing Q every couple of seconds, and I get butthurt when I get parried and raped by players who are objectively better at the game than me.
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>>570239143
thats not a bug, thats recognizing people can change after 10 years
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>>570239558
the hook being a retard-proof spell that works through any terrain is so dumb.
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>>570240370
>cheating nigger russians totally change after 10 years
>they grow up honest
>it isn't completely ingrained in their culture or anything
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I'm a retarded faggot who can't handle not pressing Q every couple of seconds, and I get butthurt when I get parried and raped by players who are objectively better at the game than me.
No arrow because I say this.
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Parryscripters still seething because people are getting tired of parries being OP I see
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Melee is buggy as fuck
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>>570240858
true, idk if its ping/lag/whatever the fuck but you can be hit from where you just dashed/your dash trail instead of your actual character model
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>lane opponent is named "Unbind F"
>get close to him
>he parries
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Remove parries, they are cheats.
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>Raid Boss Skill/BrokenSkill/ Graves
just shoot the skulls.
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>Melee doesn't even do good damage
>If you try to melee someone you risk getting stunned for 3 seconds and taking 25% damage from ALL sources which is often a death sentence
>Light melees, heavy melees, doesn't matter the punishment is the same
>Also netcode shenanigans and movement means le parry mindgames are pointless since the former means you'll get parried anyway and the latter means they'll just get away
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>>570241083
>just shoot the skulls
>just shoot the zombies
>just avoid the root
You may now attempt to kill Graves after she's smacked you with skull and gun damage
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>>570241083
>tfw I will never be seeker so I can just 1v11 with graves while people try to kills skulls with Haze ult
Feels bad, Graves is pretty much a throw pick in any rank above phantom right now
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>Graves is pretty much a throw pick in any rank above phantom right now
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>>570241489
>Graves is pretty much a throw pick in any rank above phantom right now
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>>570241729
What technique to seekerGAWDS know that reduces Graves winrate so much?
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>>570241729
she actually has the perfect inverse of win+pick rates decreasing as rank increases. interesting.
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So fucking infuriating. Mina on my team goes 0-25 and feeds like crazy. Next game, they're on the other team and get Talon and go 2-13 but get hard carried by their S+ pick-or-bans while I get 0-11 Calico and 0-14 Wraith.
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>>570241823
There probably 100 people total on that rank, not enough data.
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>>570241729
>Pick rate falls off a cliff as you climb in ranks
There is a reason for that. People that don't understand the game resort to stats which is why they can't understand why Shiv, Mina or Silver are broken despite having "negative" win rates.
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>>570241870
How the fuck do you feed on Mina (one of the best escape tools in the game) and Talon (permanent flytime)????
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>>570241627
pubbies are not human I literally do not trust these stats including ""e6"" ones.
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>>570242028
>one of the best escape tools in the game
That you can use once a minute lmao
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>>570241983
>above 53%
Anything that breaks above 51% at Eternus should be looked at
Anything that's above 53% at ALL ranks should get nerfed, boosted gravenigger
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>>570241983
oh no she drops from 56% to 53% this is totally unplayable and griefing.
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>>570241848
I think she's balanced after that slight nerf she got, hell could've maybe even not needed the nerff.
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>>570241627
Seven's pickrate and winrate have NEVER been challenged
How does he do it?
My FUARKING HERO
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>>570242028
The Mina game was a lane against Victor and Silver where Mina kept trying to towerdive them even though it clearly wasn't working. Victor got fed and automatically rolled the game. The GT one they kept trying to get into melee range because that's the only way they could hit anything with the charge shot and got slowing hexed and instamelted.
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>>570242089
>pubbies are not human I literally do not trust these stats including ""e6"" ones.
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>>570242371
Wait a minute, where's Silver?
Where's my beloved overpowered S++ wife Silver???
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Only on /dlg/ will you see people say that Silver is busted broken despite there being nothing to back it up and that Graves is balanced and fair when her winrate is sky high at all ranks
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>>570241627
>>570242089
the criteria was "throw pick in any rank above phantom" in other words "in pubs above phantom" and this satisfies the criteria perfectly why are you like this
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E6 is shitlow
NightShift is all that matters
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Are we going to get an eldritch cultist character?
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>>570241823
they have 45% win rate and 500+ games so clearly the matchmaker is just broken they're actually supposed to be eternus 1 by then.
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>>570242275
>canonically most powerful
>in game most powerful
Kino world building through balence
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>>570242750
thanks for your input metro
or zergy
or whoever the fuck you are, one of those faggots
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>>570242535
She has the highest pick rate with a wide margin lol
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I'm hardstuck Seeker
Mina main btw
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>>570242557
she is busted, she's just too hard for you to pilot.
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>>570242874
>highest pick rate by a wide margin
>can't even make top 10 winrate to back it up
They just keep trotting that poor wolf out on stage for a constant humiliation ritual...
She really should just go and join the sideshow with Celeste, she'd be treated better.........
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>>570242872
based seekerschizo
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I take Emissary and Archon opinions more seriously than Eternus cheattrannies and tournament poorfags out of their minds on stimulants
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>>570242968
as long as you're having fun, goonist <--(Gooner + Tourist)--
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>Every single Eternoid streamer is playing with a million cheat mods
Why do people worship the ground these people walk on? I hope all mods get banned and these faggots become homeless
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>>570243146
>goonist <--(Gooner + Tourist)--
This perfectly describes Mina and Silver players
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>>570243485
what about celeste players
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>>570242969
>silver upplayer is a graves main
It all makes sense now
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>>570243485
thanks, I'm a bit of an artist myself. <--(is grateful for your appreciation of my work)--
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKyUxLsTHQU
is he /ourguy/ ?
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>>570181958
Truke that this community isn't ready to accept. The "pro scene" of like 50 people circlejerking each other will continue to be a joke.
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>>570243817
i dont like his victor
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>>570243817
fuck off deekart buy an ad retard
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>>570243926
I think a lot of us on /dlg/ know that but it's reddit and elsewhere that hold those retards in high regard
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Why is it that when facing enemy Victors they're a unstoppable murder machines but when I play Victor I just get obliterated four seconds into literally any fight
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>>570240952
I have parry bound to down scroll wheel.
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>>570244469
did you try buying the same items as them?
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>>570244469
victor is not as easy as people make it seem
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Peak Potentialâ„¢ Teirlist: NA edition

Method: Peak mmr per hero na server, valve leaderboars, statlocker rating

Why do it this way? It shows how hard a top player can push a specific hero, minimizing the difficulty factor and hopefully being closer to a true power level

Compared to the eu list from a week ago there seems to be a big gap in the high performers and the low performers, eu was much closer to a bell curve
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>>570192707
Fuck, you're totally right, he needs more hours before we can tell if he has a soul or not
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>>570244869
this is a flawed methodology because you just need 20 games on a hero to place on the leaderboards, so it's not accurately capturing what these players used to climb or how well these heroes perform.
E6 public match data is really all you need to consider.
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>>570203160
You can always start today anon :)
a thousand steps in a mile or whatever motivational shit they say
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Okay, here's the idea.
Decay as a first buy playing spirit nuker.
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How to win on this one?
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>>570245670
i draw almost everyday im just unable to draw men
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>>570246031
Did you draw that?
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>>570245542
Im aware, but im only pulling from the top 10, the other issue is that the rating is actually per account not per hero. Im just assuming that if you are in the top 10 for a hero that your account rating is significantly impacted by said hero which seems reasonable to me
Take lash/victor for example. Its the same player so they are the same rating. I suspect most of the winning is actually Victor but regardless, you cant que only victor, lash most likely is his other high prio and he most likely plays him very well too
Using e6 data is also flawed in different ways, its all tradeoffs and you should look at both imo
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>>570242275
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>>570245850
Latch onto the M1 carry for the kudzu connection boost and stay back and ferry out the retard, who was caught out of position.
I'll be honest, i have like 100 games on Ivy and it took me a good while to start winning consistently with her. She's pretty reliant on her team. What do you build?
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>>570246031
start with twinks. it's easier that way
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>>570242824
>>canonically most powerful
stomping noobs makes you this strong?
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>>570246249
yes
>>570246435
i hate twinks
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>>570246331
GODven
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Where is the gambling hero that hits you for a random amount of damage ?
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>>570246897
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>>570246791
Nice, that's very good
Keep drawing
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>>570246962
I feel more like slots and casino stuff than underground retard gambling.
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>>570244869
Mina a shit
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>>570246341
Tried this but idk
Feels like I have no impact at all
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>>570246791
>>570246031
Can I make a request?
>Rem but badass with a cigar and everything but it's clearly Rem larping
Also don't just make it lash. I need some ideas for this skin mod I was making other than just the dumb idea of
>Rem but he has a cigar
Lmao
>Rem but he listened to every bad influence in the game
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>>570243564
Celeste players are yurifags that constantly talk about wanting Silver's red rocket
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>>570247764
the only debuff you're applying is BRS. you need to commit to gun carry (her gun damage sucks) or debuff merchant.
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>>570246962
I LOVE THIS TRICK
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how do you play infernus I'm oracle and feel like the lowest impact player every time I play him, used the lightbringer build so far
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>>570242371
These inflated win rates are from Abrahams farming the other "pros". Its not statistically relevant. Stop putting so much stock into "pro" players.
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>>570241983
The pick rate for Graves falls off a cliff because she is boring to play. This is also why Shiv is popular despite being shit. Shiv is fun.
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>>570247764
>>570248131
I usually rush healing tempo, slowing bullets, then build counters. I personally think siphon bullets are overrated. I see more value in for stuff like Decay or Cursed relic. I don't even usually build capacitor these days.
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>>570248678
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>>570202158
What region + rank
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>Looks up who has the lowest winrates
>Plays those characters
Just a day in the life on a contrarian chud like me
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I literally am non stop getting matched with 4k hour players and 2k hour players as a pre 100 hour player what the fuck is this games matchmaking
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>>570249447
dont worry once you surpass 100 hours you start getting matched with non stop sub 10 hour players on your team
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>>570249447
someone just said this in metro's chat
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>>570249553
yeah it was me I wanted to see what his chud take was
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>>570249342
based
SOVL is much more valuable than overpowered shit.
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>>570249447
>>570242780
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>>570249342
Careful little contrarian, influencers and pros have determined that Shiv, the character with a win rate of 46%, is insanely overpowered.
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>>570249710
That's classic icefrog balancing.
Shiv will get nerfed because of freemok, but mina will get buffed because she's not picked enough in tournaments.
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>>570249553
To follow up on this, his 200 iq chat literally all responded with erm hours dont matter 2 hour players should be able to beat 4k hour players what retards lmao
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>>570248779
Capacitor is mandatory mi amigo
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>>570249907
Mina has a lower WR but that's clearly because of women, AGPs and guys playing her with one hand.
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crazy how there are heroes that are allowed to be good at everything and then you have bebop who is shit at everything outside of his hook, and when people find a way to make him not completely mid doing anything other than being a hookbot it's patched out within a week
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>>570247764
Where is your healing nova+healing tempo and Heroic Aura? The chudzu connection replicates healing from you and your target so healing nova gets extra healing.
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>finally getting a good match
>going 12/1
>7 minute long power outage in whole city
>rejoin into half empty group
>enemies destroying our throne
>got leaver status and can't queue again
I'm going to kill myself
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>>570248797
He tries his best
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>>570250000
>2 hour players should be able to beat 4k hour players what retards lmao
This is absolutely possible though if the 2 hour player is just a smurf of a 5k hour player
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give me tf2 scout and demoman in deadlock now yoshi
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>>570251120
play time != skill, otherwise they wouldn't have a negative win rate and be in the 2 hour player ranks.
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>>570251021
have you tried leaving the third world?
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>>570249447
Yoshi is matching you with players who have more experience than you. Listen and learn.
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>>570251706
Not possible, also I'm not millionaire
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>>570251021
should've had a pc battery backup, generator, and satellite wifi that would switch instantly in a power outage sorry bro
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so when will people catch on that sinclair has a non-channeled black hole on a 10 second cooldown
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Why are there so many players with 4000 hours in a closed alpha? Im waiting for relea-
>already have 900 hours clocked
Its over for me...
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>>570251807
Everything is against me
Nothing works anymore
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>>570251941
Bunny is a buff it gives movespeed
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>>570251941
They already know about that.
What they don't know is that bolts are piss easy to land.
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>>570252484
people above alchemist actually press shift
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this game makes me say nigger and faggot way too much i need to stop
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>>570228664
nigga ur in seeker your mistakes in game are more like "turbofarming rate is 100 souls/min" and "refuses to jump" not anything to do with your teammates
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>Purge all non-ultimate negative effects currently applied to you. If any effects were removed, heal yourself and gain a move speed bonus.
>>>>>>Cannot be used while Stunned or Slept.
I have learned that dispel magic can, in theory, remove the stun you get from abrams wall stun, and most debuffs in game,
you can't use it while you're stunned or slept anyway, only after those debuffs have already ended
anti-debuffs, infinite anti-debuffs, but no anti-debuffs
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>>570251941
Joechuck is making Sinclair vids, it won't be long now
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Geist's aged so well she pisses champagne
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>>570253885
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>>570242824
>canonically most powerful
I would like to remind you that doorman is:
- in a weakened state from his former self
- restrains himself enough so that he can coexist with humanity
- not even that old of a cosmic being
and is STILL sending niggas to the shadow realm, and actively warping space/reality during the ritual.
>"You are miles away from the god you wish you were, Seven!"
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>>570252001
>Why are there so many players with 4000 hours in a closed alpha?
game good
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>>570242824
>>570255025
Both would get KO'd by a severely inebriated lash
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We have you now.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>570255406
>drunk man beats sober men
lash is only but a casual drunkard. lash gets obliterated in an actual fight with THE competitive drunk man
DON’T FRET BOYO, I’LL BE GENTLE!
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>>570241083
ever since they reworked the skull ai/attack patterns so they don't clump up, unless you play a bullet hose character the skulls are objectively bullshit
>just light melee bro
you will NEVER get all the skulls with a signle swing, half will end up behind/above/ or just stagger the approach. i've taken 500 fucking damage from this move alone in lane in the time it takes me to light melee twice an get rid of them all

and then of course the graves player has 1 entire braincell, and realizes they're close range anyway and can just parry in your face as you're being swarmed by her fucking 12 echo sharded skulls that all do 100 damage a swing and get away with it because you can't punish her parry being on cooldown AND take out the skulls, but one or the other. she also gets to land every bullshit on hit gun item with absolutely 0 effort because you dared to be within 20 feet of her, in a game where every room is that size and most objectives require you to be that close to it
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>>570250615
squishy characters like Mina also have their winrates skewed downward by literal mongoloids who don't know how to stop holding W into enemies and dying because they play every character like an initiator/tank
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>>570256131
The real truth is NA cant play mina, at any rank
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>>570256501
>NA this
>EU that
both regions are full of shitters though.
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>>570256501
The real truth is NA cant play
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>>570256723
I don't believe this for a nanosecond.
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>>570256723
>hehehehe, you see that shit?
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>>570256723
This is so low quality, only some retarded redditor youtube clickbaiter could've made it.
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member when dlg called the rem leaks fake?
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>errmm, ackshually!
>t. paigemain123
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>>570257459
it stinks of someone's donut steal try harder
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>>570256723
>no sauce
lmao nerd
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>>570206156
Enough of Vampires!
Give us Mages!
Give us a registered hex offender!
FIREBALL
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>>570248335
do they have lots of escape or mobility ?
>if yes
good ol' M1 DoT build
>if no
dashfernus
>if no and they have lots of displacement
dashfernus but throw in unstoppable

other than that he's really straightforward, I haven't seen the build you're talking about though
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>>570256723
this character concept fucking blows
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ever lead the match in basically everything and still lost?
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>>570256723
That's not real because Cheshire as a concept was rumoured to be scrapped, and that particular image is a slightly prettied up version of what some xitter user thought they would look like based on what scant information is available on her.

Likely has been fully replaced by Rem effectively
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I still believe in boho. In these trying times of weirdo monsterfuckers, furry fetishists, yellow fever fags, and granny fuckers, and AGP creeps all between I just want a happy attractive woman
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>>570257626
your mom has a stinky donut hole
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>>570258954
no, celeste does tho
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>>570247787
had no idea how to do it so i made him look like big boss
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>>570239161
Graves, Victor, Wraith, Mirage
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>>570232986
>>570233707
I only really said 40% because I saw someone else say it and it felt genuinely believable.
I just struggle to take Nightshift seriously when it feels like there's this weird kayfabe sometimes where they insist on a certain meta even as it doesn't happen in front of us.
Silver will go 3/7 several matches in a row and still get first pick/banned and the commentators will be like "Yeah bro that makes sense she's really strong".
And the same goes for other characters too, they did this with Venator when he had something like a 43% winrate in the normal game. He would get alright damage in Nightshift by being one of the only M1ggers they bothered playing during gun meta but still, just this weird insistence characters that suck are good and characters that are good suck you get occasionally.
Like when they had some retarded russian play Seven back when he had a 60% winrate even in eternus, the commentators acted like it was a bad move, and then the russian proceeded to prove that by building ult seven and using it maybe twice the whole match. Like is there some fucking agenda I'm missing here???
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we need emotes and a photo mode so i can make thirst traps of my favorite heroes
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>>570259079
probably still not as musky as her throbbing horse cock and pendulous horse balls
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>>570258391
>playing against seven and graves
what the fuck do you expect
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>>570256723
I hope he's real, supposedly has tahn kench ult as a basic ability where you can swallow team-mates to save them
iceGOD will not rest until 1/3 of the roster is furry.
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>>570259785
What are thirst traps?
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>>570259429
It's because Silver has an incredibly overloaded kit that doesn't require you to do much besides build green items. She shuts down movement faggotry with the bola, is basically unkillable with the ult, and has a lot of % damage built into her. It's the same way that LoL designs characters.
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>>570259973
It's not. Look at his abilities, they're almost 1:1 for rem but that one ability was replaced with tag along
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>>570259785
>can't even see color of her panties
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>>570259429
>then the russian proceeded to prove that by building ult seven and using it maybe twice the whole match.
KEK I remember that
It was during Abrahams winstreak, a BM pick basically. Just trolling the enemy by doing stupid shit because its not even a contest
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>>570260202
Built for assembly line fetishists
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>lane partner sucks ass and feeds in a silver/drifter lane somehow
>they run the entire game and get their entire team fed from it
>retarded lane partner keeps blaming matchmaking in allchat
my nigger, YOU are the fucking problem.
matchmaking is bad because it puts you on your team.
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>>570239143
>>570239478
I got a vac ban thats 18 years old now.

It bans by the .exe


So my cs 1.6 vac was hl1.exe so it carried to literally everything based on hl1 and goldsrc. Source .exes started becoming unique to themselves after the orange box iirc.


They only ban you from secure servers not the games
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>>570257459
I member, It was one guy who was probably schizophrenic
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>>570257459
I SPECIFICALLY remember the cope and calling it some rando's furry oc
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>>570206156
We already have two
How would they do a second werewolf?
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>>570259416
Mirage is honest
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>>570260602
Just give me more monsters.
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>>570206468
I feel like no one can do that high level movement tech consistently, they just try for it every time and only get it like 40-60% of the time, and of that it matters like 20% of the time
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>>570260602
Third vampire would be an actual high society count Dracula type.
Second Werewolf would probably just be Drifter again.
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>>570260602
Concept
>Second werewolf
>Male character
>Tank
>Permanently transformed into werewolf form due to some shenanigans or deliberately doing it to himself by idk having a piece of the moon embedded in him or something
>Surprisingly smart and well read, but power hungry and deliberately got himself infected
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>>570259429
Silver actually rapes ladder, venator is pure psyop tho he should only be a counterpick if the enemy goes full tank. There is no reason to pick him over other m1
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>>570257459
Rem is still a fake character. I dont believe he actually exists. They invented a folk tale about some sleepy goblin who travels around the sewers stealing sinners just to encourage players to secure their jungle.
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Silver is basically cheating. I'm on a 14 winstreak in eternus with this bullshit.
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>>570261003
I don't believe you're a real person. I think Valve just made you up to be contrarian. In fact I think you're just a mental construct in my solipsistic fantasy about being the #1 Deadlock player globally.
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>>570261286
She's been long overdue for nerfs icefraud is a retard who cant prioritize shit
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>>570256867
why do people always get this wrong? it's "hahaha, you see that shit? hehehehe"
you'd think after being killed by him so often people would remember the line
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>play my first game of deadlock
>feel like I played like completely ass since I barley know what to do
>all my teammates commend me
Huh? Was that sarcastically like in league or is lady Geist broken?
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>>570261495
>Win game, updoot everyone
many such cases.
Lady Geist is pretty good in pisslow because no one will play around your health swap so you end up with free kills from retards walking into you with full hp.
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>>570261424
It's actually insane how retarded this character is. Once you're in wolf form you basically can kill every enemy that is even remotely near you every single time. It doesn't even matter what order you use your skills in.

It's also way too easy to get into wolf form and the cooldown should be like 5 times longer. Even her human form is better that some of the shit characters.
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can we make it a rule that you have to link your statlocker if complaining about team or complaining about being "stuck at shitlow"
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>>570261720
how do you even play "around" her health swap in high elo she just runs at you unless you full back
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>>570260606
No, he really is not. Any of the M1 characters with a passive are not honest at all, and Mirage is also just boring.
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>>570261494
>hehehe, you see that shit?
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>>570260202
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>>570260861
Would be kind of a funny foil to Drifter
>Disciplined and principled, speaks plainly
>Always trying to persuade Silver to embrace her inner animal and join his pack, while Drifter hates Mina and sees her as a poser
>Complains about cleaning blood out of his fur
>Kraven esque desire to hunt other predators
maybe killed GT's family just to force him out of retirement
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breaking news: all 6 new characters will be trans
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>>570260202
i grew up masturbating to candid videos where you would watch for 10 minutes hoping to get flashed even a small pixel of her underwear
you motherfuckers don't want to use your imagination for anything now, it's all about instant gratification
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>>570262436
Goddammit, now you're making me wish for a character that only exists in this thread. That would be kino as fuck.
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>>570262093
I've done exactly this on victor before lmao and managed to 1 v 6
You should always contest rejuv
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>>570260202
only dogs get to see that and much more
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>>570262148
slowing hex
back away from her while you blast her to death with stuns/abilities/gun damage
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>>570262436
What if
>Former big game hunter who became a monster purely so he could hunt even more dangerous game
>Enforces the idea he actually wants to hunt other predators
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>>570262176
His is the weakest tho, takes literally 12 seconds
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I wish i never saw Zerggy's face. He's so ugly. He's so cute personality-wise, but he's so fucking ugly.
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>>570262924
i havent seen it
post it
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fuck you to whichever faggot said that return fire instantly breaks grave's skulls
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>check statlocker
>wondering why not going up
>not expecting to go up too fast because new player as of a couple weeks ago
>notice a single loss being forced to play a character I'm not proficient in removes twice the points of a good game with a character I am good at
So losing regardless if my fault or my team's fault for having throwing Pockets or Minas is just a nuke to any chance of going up in rank?
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>>570263210
The skulls would be way less annoying if they were able to be consistently destroyed.
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>>570263273
its just statlockers inference not what is actually happening to your rank
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>>570263273
those are statlocker's own rating points, have nothing to do with the ingame rank, you can't see the actual mmr point changes anywhere
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>>570263465
>>570263473
Ah. Got it. Kinda gay it has those and they have zero actual bearing on anything.
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>>570263563
>zero actual bearing on anything.
its not zero either. the pp system they have is pretty accurate imo but not the whole truth
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>>570263563
Well I wouldnt say they have no bearing, if your number go up then your rank will go up... eventually
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>>570263425
ive noticed that if you are walking backwards, your light melees are WAY more likely to miss the skulls. it feels like they want you to stop moving to melee them which is insane
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>our abrams for some reason goes BACK TO BASE as we're attacking the weakened patron and then farms green lane
>we lose
the people who play this game are actual legit lobotomites
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>>570263210
you're both retarded
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>>570263210
I think its because the skulls are too weak to kill themselves. AFAIK the hp of the skulls doesn't scale
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>>570263210
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>knicks about to win it all
>trapper still in purgatory
gabe better green light his release god fucking dammit
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Graves is honest
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>>570263273
statlocker is fake and gay and you should completely ignore everything about it.
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Graves is cheating
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>>570242557
That isn't only on /dlg/ actually, pretty much any pro player would say the same thing because if you actually think about balance and don't just cite janky API scrapers as evidence then you'd naturally conclude that Silver is much stronger than Graves.
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>>570263757
Listen man, Graves has to press 1 button to deal 1000+ damage with the skulls, you can't just destroy them with one light melee...
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another thread of emissarys talking about graves being dishonest le sigh...
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>>570264309
>gravestard has no argument so he says but but but le rank bro
classic
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>>570264045
>janky API scrapers
When it the data is consistent over multiple months with thousands of matchs you cant blame sampling errors
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>Graves doesn't have some passive that builds up a DOT ability like Nigfernus
Graves is fair and balanced
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if the august major patch doesn't rework or giga buff melee items like crushing fists and lifestrike then im just dropping the playstyle
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>>570264763
He just looks average.
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>>570243817
his shiv is tuff icl
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Just saw my first obviously aimbotting Holliday. Went for headhunter as first item, maxes crackshot first without even touching other skills, and then immediately goes for crippling headshot. Had a 100% headshot rate and an auto-parry script, fed 20 kills off my team's Billy, and I get a third loss in a row. I still killed her twice.
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>>570265430
More proof that Hagligay should be removed from the game
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>lose one game
>get matched with the most obnoxious people on this planet annoying russians screaming some schizo ranting about indians man get me out of here already
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>>570264763
He just looks like a regular Asian
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>>570264763
wait
zerggy is a gook?
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>>570240952
>Unbind F
i've seen this guy before
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>>570251597
Demoman or Merasmus would be funny as fuck.
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>going 3-1 in lane
>look at score
nice. we lost this game entirely because this nigger couldn't not feed for 10 minutes. complete snowball. wonderful.
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>>570263794
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>>570264464
you mean november
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>>570267776
classic
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HOLY FUCK CAN WE JUST REGION BAN SLAVNIGGERS FROM EUROPE ALREADY. I LITERALLY VIEW THEM ON THE SAME LEVEL AS AFRICANS.
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>>570268146
um but then the game will die? dont you know how many slavs play on eu?
Rusnigs unironically think this and don't realize that for every rusnig on eu two humans stop playing
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>>570268282
yeah I literally guarantee the game would still be growing if slavniggers didn't ruin games
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Everything bad about Graves could be resolved by simply making her summons dissapear when she dies, including her ult.
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>>570264763
Dude is just a chink lol
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>>570268484
You can just jump over the zombos and they will blow up while under you
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>>570268146
niggers are actually preferrable to russians, the niggers who are smart enough to install steam and download deadlock are generally fine teammates
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>>570267776
>>570268120
>losing lane to worst character in the game calico
embarrassing
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What "QOL" mods are not cheating and which are?
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>>570268840
All cheats, even rebinding your scroll wheel is cheating because it has less delay than your keyboard
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>>570268840
All of them.
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is the nude abrams mod a cheat?
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>>570268840
2x louder heavy melee is the only acceptable QoL mod
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>>570268840
QoL:
>Louder Melee Sounds
>Louder footsteps
>Displaying unspent souls
>Spawn timers
Cheats:
>Turning every hero on the roster into Uma Musume
know the difference
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>>570260016
Thirst traps are plants that trap insects with pools of liquid ie venus pitchers. Thirst traps in his context refers to making them resemble carnivorous plants, though usually its referred to as thirst trapification or carnivorization
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>>570268840
IF AN ITEM MODIFIES IT AND YOUR MOD COUNTERACTS IT, IT IS CHEATING
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Are most characters just better off being played with tribrid builds? I played gun only build for like 500 hours and got bored, so I switched to a build that's equal parts Gun/Spirit/Vit and I feel way more effective across the board
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Literally every single mod is a cheat and Valve can't implement sv_pure 3 soon enough
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>>570268282
Coproinians aren't any more >European
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>>570269512
>You get more horny from seeing what Abrams dick can do
>Your testosterone goes up
>You perform better in-game
It's a cheat.
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>>570269967
Its usually worth it to get 4.8k in every category. Unless you play someone who never gets to shoot or someone with no spirit scaling.
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Why are so many russians infesting deadlock? Shouldn't they be getting drone bombed somewhere?
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>>570268823
>>losing lane to worst character in the game calico
He should've just gotten a QOL autoparry mod
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>>570269967
Yup even beyond the 4.8k, you get very diminished returns at 9.6k so if you do the math other categories are way better stats per soul after that point

Most my builds are 9.6k in two categories and 4.8k in the third with a handful of late game flex items
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>>570270427
Every rusnig should be doxed so people can volunteer them for the war effort
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>People in eternus are buying torment pulse without escalating exposure
Grim. Subhumans are even in shithigh.
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>>570269689
what would be an actual example of that?
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>>570270427
If Valve makes a game, they will come
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>>570270816
You don't say. Last game I saw 2 retards buying tankbuster in E1.
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>>570270849
Louder footsteps mod (Stalker reduces footstep sound)
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>>570249342
A real contrarian picks low pickrate chars, not low winrate ones.
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>>570271249
This is why I play Calico and Sinclair
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>>570271402
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>>570271018
Things like sound mods are fine, as long as the max range of the audio que remains unchanged. The thing about Stalker is that it decreases the audible distance by 50% instead of just making it quieter.
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>>570263273
Statlocker is retarded and has been horribly broken since Valve restricted match data access like 8 months ago.
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>Nice we're winning lane alright it's about 2 minutes into the game let me check and see if-
>lash has 5 deaths
>celeste has 5 deaths
> enemy ivy has 6 kills
>enemy yamato has 4 kills
HELP ME CHRIST I CANNOT GET OUT OF INITITATE BECAUSE OF THESE RETARDS
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>>570278079
AND I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT THE SCOREBOARD IT WAS A 40 MINUTE MATCH AND OUR WRAITH HAD 19K PLAYER DAMAGE WHY AM I IN HELL
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>>570250000
the only people more delusional than metro might genuinely be his chat (ragebaiters notwithstanding)
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>>570278079
I love playing mobas
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>>570282670
stop playing the character with zero agency or find a boyfriend to duo with.
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>>570282670
>suppressor into a team without any m1s
>surge of power on paige
>one (1) single green, no spirit resist
>no actives
you're building like an idiot even if your team is feeding
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>>570282670
Ranks are so fucked. How is this a ritualist 6 game?



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