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First for big chungus
Place your bets on what life without the F2Ps is like, and opening Cryo.
Please tell me there will be Cryo Duo Queues
Sponsored Perimiter is a good way to get the cheapo contracts filled to unlock more but wont it fuck up matchmaking if they are still doing something silly like season level/time played?
they can't do sponsored outpost, too much *loot*
>>570205316small price to pay for ez contracts
does cryo come out today?
>>570205316Don't worry anon. No matter what happens they will retune matchmaking JUST to fuck you over, because you aren't quitting, and they need to feed you to the streamers. I don't know what matchmaking is now, but I'm sometimes getting games where all the teams are gold gear.
>>570205454yeah
>>570205461That's probably because you're bringing in gold gear, anon.
>>570205656More than that. My game sense is good enough to tell that I don't have a cradle advantage anymore. These other teams also are starting to have full cradle players too. The point is, that there's enough of us to fill the server now here.
>>570205317sponsored outpost would actually be fun and we cant have that
I want night modes for every map. Outpost can be a power blackout or something.
>>570206346i want cryo archive "breach", no lights, zombies everywhere, all of the event bosses have their rooms open and they wander within a set patrol zone of their original spawn location at random, compiler roams the map, 2 less overall teams spawn in.i want this shit to jump scare the unsuspecting masses
>figure I can get the three kills as solo in sponsored perimeter on rook now that I got his faction upgrades>queue in>exfil 5 times in a row without seeing anyone and nobody at final exfil>6th attempt don't see anyone while running around map until final exfil, but it's only a duo so I just offer peace and they let me step in to the portalWHERE IS EVERYBODY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS MODE?
>>570206840I was thinking with the husks, if they want to make them more deadly start spawning shit tons of them throughout night marsh as time goes on. Make their spawns less static, put a few patrolling in the marshes and around the edges of the map.
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>>570195496>>570207027New schitzo just dropped.
>>570206918i want a few placed intentionally on every map, just coded to wait until a player crosses its sightline.behind a cornerinside of an open containernear the spawns behind treesmake the player feel uneasy and regret making noise by pulling the trigger.change the husks to respond to sound, if you walk slow enough they dont see or hear you. if they hear gunfire within a reasonable range for balance reasons they go into "fuck it, we ball" mode and rush to the aid of the husks the player/s were/are shooting.i want a players balls, or nips, twisted for even thinking of engaging one.
>>570207181>make the player feel uneasy and regret making noise by pulling the trigger.yeah just what we need to force people to make even more noise to cross the map
I never get any contracts for outpost. Was it a late addition or soemthing?
>>570208038Sponsored Survival Outpost = uncontested pinnacle room every run.
>>570205316Reminder that you get way less rep. In solo you get triple rep for completing contracts.
>8k in gameWow season 2 really raped those numbers!
>>570208131There's plenty of story contracts for Outpost.
Actually had an interesting sponsored perimeter match on Rook.> won a duel against another rook trying to do the secure resource in Hauler>find a dead rook upstairs that he must have killed>grab data pad and head to north relay>hear movement above me, able to duck under and hide and they didn't see me>grab 2nd pad and book it to the cache in data wall as final exfil starts>hear sprinting under me>blast down the actual player who was booking it>loot cache and dipI bet I spooked the fuck out of the dude.
So can we all do the contracts we have open with a team or not?
>have collected and modded a bunch of cool guns>fortunately for the other guy, terrible at pvp so i'll die immediately upon encountering another runnerit's humorous in a sisyphean way.
>seeing people talking about the battle pistol needing a nerfIf this thing gets taken away from me I swear to GOD
>>570209973>nooo don't take my crutch away
>>570210367It's a really good bot killer though
had a weird experience just now>solo dm>running invisible>triage hits me with slow firing conquest, every shot hits>im on the floor and he's just turning around not moving, standing in a bad place>I crawl away and self-resmaybe cheater who just started playing and has no idea what to do?
Runners, rape status?
>>570212546station locked room is rape central
Knowing shit eating pve'ers are doing contracts on perimeter fills me with rage
>>570214264>can only get kills from the lowest of the lowmany such cases
>>570214264rook that shit nigga
>>570214645They'll just queue up again
these fuckers are really holding up my traxus upgrades
Thats it huh its just dire marsh at night lol
>>570216516th-theres towers that tell you where loot is
>>570216516dire marsh at nightexcept people just turn on nvidia filters and turn it back into day marsh
>>570216516Umm sentinel, hello?
>>570214264>Knowing shit eating pve'ers are doing contracts on perimeter fills me with rageI was mad at night Marsh and only played Perimeter, to farm anyone who tried to play normal maps.Now i will only play Dire Marsh and Outpost, in case someone desires to do a contract there, I'll make sure to penetrate him deep
I really love playing this game. And I would like to see the numbers fall, I don't want it to be enjoyed as a relaxing game.Let the original burn out, I don't want it to change. It's like killing a wife, to make sure she doesn't get a new family.
>>570220117don't worry once the free trial is over the numbers will plummet
>>570220787Yea, and Sony should let people keep trying to git gud. Keep it free and don't kick em out. Some of them will stick around and keep trying, for free that is.
Did you know, the failed Xdefiant game, had Lux currency, and no SBMM.Just like Marathon 2026
Health packs and shields are limited, you don't have the option to buy, or barter as many as before.Weapon attachments are easier to buy, there's a lot in stock.
I am on a horrific loss streak right now, every time I finally buy a key template I lose it like a retard trying to convert it into a key.
>loot or unlock a cool gun on a run>"oh sick, nice">look at it in my vault>equip another free kitI can't be the only one. It feels like whenever I actually make my own load out, use shield mods or cool guns etc, I enter into a run with a big glowing GANK THIS ASSHOLE sign hovering overhead with an arrow pointing out my exact location.
>>570223117This happens every time I've been freekitting all day. Have the traxus lock you in the canal with robots quest, get s good loadout, some cunt ganks me as I'm fighting robuts and looking for the red things to shoot.Try again with a freekit, don't see a single person and do it fine.
>>570223117I think cheaters can tell what gear you have so they de-prioritize hobos.
Tick tock, F2P is going away today
>>570224304I should just get over it and use the stuff in my vault and not care if it gets ganked, if I'm being honest. I've got a bunch of key cards etc as well that I've been afraid to take because what if they get stolen? But if they stay in the vault and do nothing they're worthless, they're worse than worthless because they're taking up space. I swear this game has rewired my brain because when I started the free week I was like "oh man I love this aesthetic but I hate the PvP element" and I did a solo run on sponsored perimeter and I just thought that it felt like it was missing something without other players to add the tension.
>>570224542I played it this morning and could still access it so I wonder when that's actually changing over. I'm tempted to wait until I can't physically boot it any more just in case they decide to make it f2p without warning but then again it's on sale so I'll probably just buy it anyway tonight.
>>570224559>I should just get over it and use the stuff in my vault and not care if it gets gankedIt won't get ganked, if you spend a couple of minutes to gather info, gank some runners, and then do what you wanted to do. It only takes 2 minutes to notice if someone is close by, baby girl
>oh man I love this aesthetic, I want a Sony movie game, pvp bad
>>570225920>pvp badUnironically. Every PvP game is full of cheaters and sweats who suck all the fun out. Take the singleplayer and co-op pill and stop being a frustrated slave to PvP.
>>570224559>I swear this game has rewired my brain because when I started the free week I was like "oh man I love this aesthetic but I hate the PvP element" and I did a solo run on sponsored perimeter and I just thought that it felt like it was missing something without other players to add the tension.I felt slightly different, for me it was more "I wish the PvE element was more difficult to replace the tension that's removed by taking out the other players." It's the same thing I wanted for a potential Arc Raiders PvE mode.
What if they just deleted bubble shields from the game as loot and repurposed them as sentinel's prime
>>570226236>Take the singleplayer and co-op pillI play all kinds of games, especially Sony games(the best single player ones on the market). This is why it's funny to see people beg to remove pvp, there's too many single player games, why can't a couple of them be PvPvE
>>570209973It might need a slight tuning in range and accuracy cone at longer ranges in particular, it's contesting most of the SMG options in all three sweet spots (5 15 30) and has great ammo efficiency to boot. Currently you would want it to be somewhere between that 15-30m range and maybe bump down the precision multiplier just a tad to increase the TTK. Would still make it decent option as being that side option you can bring for reliable CQC if you don't want SMG/Shotgun, currently it's literally outgunning most rifle option if you've got any stock available.
>>570227240>Arc Raiders PvE mode.Embark still refusing to do it, hats off. I prefer Marathon, but I want Marathon to shut down before they're able to transform it into a different type of game.
Is anybody able to ctrl+click to instantly add/remove things from your inventory mid-run? It won't work for me for some reason nowIs it bugged?
>>570229639Works just fine as long as you've got room in the backpack inventory. You have to either swap (hold input) or drop the items otherwise, unless they're moving into an empty slot and for those you can just ctrl click on an item. It's mostly made that way to make a distinction between pocketing the item and equipping it but in case your inventory is full, it disables ctrl click and gives you a prompt for swap input instead (default keybind X)
>>570230228I know you need empty space but the button combo just doesn't work.Maybe it was just bugged for that one game, it was the first game I played since the patch dropped on Tues.
>>570230397Got any particular thing you were doing? Could help to describe how it got to that point.
>>570230515Nope, other than tabbing out whilst the game mysteriously took 2+ minutes to load the contracts screen for some reason (Solo survival perimeter).
Easy way to get neurochem packs? I need like ten before I can start buying blue shields.
>>570230905There are some in the freebie battle pass
>>570228634Marathon will add a pve mode and you will never kill me to steal my loot.
>>570230397>but the button combo just doesn't work.ctrl + click does nothing in a match, as you can't move items between a container you loot and your own inventory without dragging them back into said container or just dropping it with F. What you're referring to is the normal left click behavior that inserts items into your backpack or empty equipment slots. ctrl click is for moving items in the vault interface from backpack/inventory/gear into the vault.
>>570231653>you will never kill me to steal my loot.I don't even loot most of the people I kill, I run away to survive. I kill them just to kill them
>>570232676No, I swear you could ctrl+click and it would move things into your inventory in one click. Using left click only requires you to do it twiceWhat the fuck
>>570233612It's one click for moving to inventory, hold left click for swapping stuff like gear and guns in inventory and when your inventory is full to any capacity, the game just refuses to pick up your items. You're not the first guy to make the mistake, as the ctrl + click stuff becomes intuitive for moving stuff around in the vault.
>Free trial ends>Sony makes it the default thing you see on the PSN tab>After the trial endsGod damn it sorny.
>>570232802>I don't even loot most of the people I kill, I run away to survive. I kill them just to kill themYou will never kill me then.
>>570230905>neurochemAlgae Ponds. I farmed a heap of that shit during sponsored NMarsh. Also Pinwheel crash carts.
>got rook upgrades>ruining peoples sponsered perim solo runsrooks gotta do what a rooks gotta do
>>570235204I've had friendly rooks in my games. I gifted them valuables or resources or shared loot, and we extracted together. Jolly co-operation is very fun.
>>570209973Gonna keep using it until everyone knows how ridiculous it is.
>>570236496what are the shield mods? I tried to put a mg shield on it but wouldn't work
>>570236741The shield slot is for a folding stock. It can't equip shields. They're both toggle-able mods, so they're just being lazy with the UI.
>>570236741They aren't shields nigga, they're stocks, it even says in the name. Folded = tighter hip-fire accuracy and more movement speedUnfolded = quicker ADS accuracy/speed + more weapon range. Note that currently these are bugged and the effects are actually reversed, so unfolded is giving tighter hip-fire accuracy etc and vice versa
>>570237153Yeah, i think the wording is off. You would think having extra stability on your shoulder would give you overall better accuracy while the unfolded one speeds up ADS etc.
>>570228634The Chinese server is already planning to add a pve mode. You can still flag for pvp, but get marked on the map for everybody. Meanwhile, the Western servers and going on a population dive because most people don't give a rat's ass about pvp.
So tell me about Glorp, whats the dark scandal i'm missing here?
>>570239170I don't know about any scandal, I just hate all str*amers on principle
What's the blue two people icon next to Dire Marsh Night?
>>570240824"Duo Queue"
Good game but I'm quitting until they make Cryo playable for solos.
Any anons here can help me find out how to do the chemical peel quest?I've done significant exploration of Perimeter, Marsh and Outpost and have yet to find a single chem grenade.
>>570241771There’s a nade box that you loot to get the chem nades. The 1st part of the quest should take you to where the box is. No such case for you?
>>570242147in S1 if you died or whatever after looting then you can never loot again, maybe it's the same
Safe pocket mechanic inbound S3
>>570242147No sir. Game just assumes you should know where chem nades are found. I have no such knowledge hence me asking on this mongolian macrame forum
>>570242147Also, this is for the "do toxic damage to anyone" quest. Apparently there used to be an implant that added toxic damage to your knife. No such purchasable implant exists to my knowledge....
>>570242742>Safe pocket mechanic inbound S3Everyone will be on MW4 beta and Wolverine release. Sony should've kept the game free. >what about those who boughted during free weekOffer them 2,000 lux moneys + 3 Deluxe kits. Or just let them redeem store credit.It's very stupid to kick anyone out right now. I love this game and I will be on MW4 beta + Wolverine, like everyone and their grandma.
>>570243090Can you still buy them from MIDAshop this season? Maybe MIDA contracts/levelling will give them.
>>570243684Enjoy your woke Wolverine with manface Jean and the X-Thems
>>570243293I've seen it again but yeah can't buy it. Just park the contract for a while, do some perimeter runs and you'll pick a few up from commanders.
should I buy this? I have steam cash from selling cs skins. I feel old and washed but I'm having fun fighting robots, looting and exploring the world and lore.
>>570243932>Enjoy your wokeWoke Spider man had best in class combat, woke TLOU Part has better gore/combat/movement than Red dead 2. I'm playing even if I skip some cutscenes, /v/cels who watch the games on Youtube can get fucked. I'm always trying every game myself, and there is no superhero game, that has combat as good as Spider-Man 2(two).
>>570243684I guess I’m the outlier, but holy shit those Arkham style games bore me to fucking death.
>10/10 PvP game Marathon>next gen character action Wolverine>next gen extraction mode MW4>next gen Warzone>next gen GTAMan this year is fucking great. By "next-gen" I mean not designed for old systems(Xbox One) and won't run on most PCs that need the DLSS cope
The time has come to lose everything once againhttps://files.catbox.moe/sz2rzv.mp4
>>570244129I bought after playing the server slam
>>570244436Durandel pls
I just ordered a Dominoes half tuna delux half tandoori hot with a mini garlic bread and doctor pepper. I'm going to eat these then jerk off to Mei from overwatch bbw porn then meet you in Cyro bros.
Imagine being born on the Marathon during its journey, spending your life maintaining a ship, so a bunch of frozen people you'll never meet can fuck around on a planet you'll never see.
>>570244129It's pretty cheap for what it offers and the future development is also one thing to look into as a whole, as all content updates that aren't paid MTX are free, so even if it'll sink the sting isn't that heavy. The game exists on a pretty unique standpoint that it might eventually be able to marry a fusion of genres that aren't so rigidly tied together. The future that i would envision is a combination of survival, PvPvE and solo gameplay elements married with the exfil premise, as the core of the game should definitely lean into it's setting more than just the PvP aspect being the sole focus. It's likely why Bungie decided to jump on over to Marathon development to begin with. They've made looter shooters and traditional campaigns, now there's a niche they can easily carve out the foundation that has been laid.
>>570244763livin' the dream
>>570244215What doesn't bore you? I think looting in a PvE environment is extremely boring.
>free week barely moved the needle>30 years of making fps games and this is the best they can dolol
>>570245882>this is the best they can doIt's a very good game. Extremely fun.
>>570246016Yes, so true brother. I have a blast every time I boot it up.
>>570244763This man has a plan.
Playercount plummeting in 5
>>570241771>Chemical PeelIts a standard contract? Get Tox Injector implant and stab bots. Or find chem nades and toss them at one blue-shield bot.
>>570209973They just need to hit the damage dropoff
I'm F2p and I'm still in the game and will be as long as I don't turn the game offI'm going to continue being a blight on your game
>>570249838DEVILISH
>>570227240>I wish the PvE element was more difficult to replace the tension that's removed by taking out the other players.That's why it should be forced solo no fill
>>570244817Could be worse, there could be no guarantee that you'll ever actually GET to another planet. Watch Aniara (2019).
>>570249838I remember people doing this with the FFXI free trial back in the day and getting nuked by the GMs
Free Week... is over...
>>570227240>>570250154This might be anecdotal and it definitely doesn't happen every round but there have definitely been more dense + higher tier enemy placements in solo sponsored perimeter compared to regular. One time I went into hauler and there were three commanders in there. Kind of just wish it was consistent.
>>570244129It's only worth buying if you have a group of 3 to play with imo
lol they fucked up the cryo free kits and it wont let you in with one
It's still letting me queue
>>570250434Honestly S2 has been buggy as fuck which is weird because S1 actually felt really stable outside of a few outliers.
>>570244817Atleast its a better life than in some slums of Mars or Earth or being under direct corporate boot.Some people would take that chance. I would. So what if i die without stepping onto another planet? I get to fuck around on the ship. I get to fuck my crewmates too. Its good enough.
>>570251259Sex with Vandal Other things with Vandal Other things while having sex with Vandal talk me out of getting the S1 pass for her skin
Oni print me a Vandal with a big fat butt and wide hips that clap.
>>570228634What is it and devs that make extraction shooters refusing to do the one thing that'll make their game a success? ie add in PvE? At least Bungie is catching on/having their hand forced by SonyArc is only as successful as it is because of the aggression based matchmaking, if you were PvPing every single time with other raiders it would never have blown up on social media and gotten as big as it didPvE ES have been a huge unfulfilled gap in the market for years despite people constantly clamoring for it, and we see that with most PvE ES doing really well for themselves
>>570251861Because the little playerbase they have refuse and insist PvE will make it worse
>>570251861Sponsored DM and Perimeter are incredibly boring. It's not a game without other players. I have been rooking in ruin people's 25 minutes.
Cryo being limited is retarded when the game has so little content.
>>570249289I get that fren. I realized I have to grind level 5 on the Samurai sponsor to unlock the implant to do the level 1 quest on Nucaloric. Busy work.....perfected.
>>570253229Yeah but it creates FOMO and Bungie likes psychologically torturing its fans
I played all morning and the only time I encountered another trio my mm trio got rolled. Other than that I killed two solo runners.
>>570251529if you are going to, I'd suggest getting the deluxe edition upgrade or the fun police bundle, far more cost effective than just the BP by itself
Is Duos Cryo a thing
The vendors are a total mess, in both inventory and unlocks trees. Been running during the week with free kits, but I give up.
>>570251861Tarkov added PvE and that's about half the playerbase. Arc Raiders added the PvPvE matchmaking and was a success during the first months, until the game started getting abused by rats.I value that Bungie have a solid vision, even if they'll end up with a handful concurrent players worldwide.
>>570253269Or reroll the contract.
They can just turn Sponsored Survival into a practice mode, honestly. Only go as Rook, poke around the map, do events and loot gutter salvage and occasional bauble and then exfil. Then turn the profitable Rook run options into a rotating queue similar to as they are now funneled for sponsored survival and the scav experience is pretty much spot-on for those who want to keep the stakes lower and still progress on their materials and get some shiny stuff on occasion. The rest of the game doesn't need too much of a vast overhaul in anything except the map variety on the low to mid risk maps.
>rooking on outpost>spawn late into the match>pinwheel still not openI have to do everything my FUCKING self around here
>>570250282wtf they gave me a free license lolDid this happen to anyone else or is Bungle picking favorites?
>>570256660Fucking hate when that happens, like bitch you don't know where the green keys generally spawn? Are you even checking the bathrooms?
so, how is cryo archive? was thinking of doing squad fill for it
>>570257012nvm key gone on refresh, xd
>zero change in player numbers after a massive sale and free weekTWELVETHOUSANDPLAYERSMaintenance mode by fall. Pack it up. Turns out making your map dark and making zero meaningful changes to your CORE EXPERIENCE (fucking sponsor modes) doesn't do jack shit. Game needed SBMM and a major rebalance to how punishing it is.
There's a skin for the Stryder called Acid Abyss but it doesn't tell me if it's from the codex or the store and so on
good to be back in the icebox
>>570258334:skull:eenhouse
When does the free week end? I just got back from a trip.
>>570258334greeneenhouse>>570259038Apparently, it already has. Most probably, 10 AM today bungie time.
>>570259173But it’s 11:37 in Seattle
Looks like it’s over. I guess I’ll just buy it to give it a try. What a bummer.
>>570259584They extended it for 2 days even, where were you?
Recon's luscious lips
>Bungie turned back into a smaller studio after shedding all the fat and bloat Destiny and Halo as a whole brought in.This is literally the only thing i can imagine happening with the current setup and i see no downsides. Sony as a whole seems to have made their peace with the trajectory of the game and it's not like shutting down their only game that has managed to outlive it's crib will benefit either party.
I just woke up anything new today? is the F2P period over?
I owe my (50 credit) life to that rocket drone.
>>570255203>Arc Raiders added the PvPvE matchmaking and was a success during the first months, until the game started getting abused by rats.Since you mentioned Tarkov, rats are those, who hide and loot, they want to loot and leave, they're not looking to shoot someone. You're talking about campers, campers hide or pretend to be friendly, to kill you. Campers want the kill, not rats.
That paypig Recon trying knife me, lmao.
>>570250434>cryo free kits and it wont let you in with one>>570253229>Cryo being limited is retarded when the game has so little content.Haha freekitters can't play, bBwWAHAHAAHAH
>>570263051>pretend to be friendlyrat behaviour
>free period overAw. Well, it was fun while it lasted.>bought>>570253520Thanks, got the fun police bundle.
On Arc, I reverse boosted a lot. Bought a $20 script for a Cronus Zen device, laptop ran the script, the Cronus device played the game, while the game ran on PS5.My character would load in with a free kit, run around and jump, die, and do this for hours, while I sleep. Deaths without damaging players put my account back into "Low aggression, friendly lobbies". In the friendly lobbies, I brought good gear, and killed people over and over. Then, I reverse boosted with the Cronus again. Would I reverse boost for SBMM on Marathon? Fuck yeah, can't get caught if you're not AFK, and your profile has all kinds of different inputs, before you die to a player, or bot. Reverse boosting like this also works on Call of duty and Battlefield.
do the bars on top of her head light up like a cop car's lightbar
>>570263896Ah so that's why you're still begging for SBMM, you're a pussy.
>>570263547>>pretend to be friendlyInstead of saying friendly, i would say "Hey how's it going raiduhh, I got some fruit for muh chicken back in Speranza, haha."And when the dude would say stuff, I'd walk with him, and suddenly, shoot him in the back. Then call him a good girl for standing on all fours. Ask /arg/ about the pvpigger they had, I posted like 20+ different clips, before I moved to Marathon.
>>570244423normgroid alert
>>570263996I never asked for SBMM, I claimed I will reverse boost, if it's added.>you should (((compete))) in the bracket, that the algorithm puts you inWhy, who's paying me for trying and competing? I'm not gonna be a competitor for free, like a good boy. I'm gonna farm Bob the worker, Destiny dad, and little Timmy.
>>570264418>I never asked for it, but I'll abuse it when it's addedOkay
>>570264418tranny kisser ahh post
>>570264576Fuck yea I'll abuse it, I have multiple gaming systems and accounts ready to go. Bring it on.
>>570263903There is no easy way to find that out.
>>570264418No you won't, I'll be in the PvE lobbies where you can't touch me.
>>570265137You wish I touched you
>>570264418>I claimed I will reverse boost, if it's added.No one asked.
>>570263903I have it and no they don't which sucks.
Turns out there is a lore explanation for the gas chambers.
>>570265256Says the guy who goes to extreme lengths so he can shoot bad players in the back. You're projecting.
>>570265632>extreme lengthsA $20 script and a $100 Cronus zen, /codg/ niggas have been doing it since 2019
>>570263547>morals
>>570265459aw
anyone else getting constant "UESC reinforcements have arrived" messages from ONI ingame? like every 20 secs
>>570265468what's the lore explanation for the ice cream truck jingle every time someone opens a locked door
>>570265836Resorting to paying for scripts so you can shoot bad players in the back is extreme lengths, yes. No different than some kid paying 5 bucks for wallhacks.
I don't actively browse things for this game, I just play it whenever my friend wants to, so I am oblivious about the state and health of the game/communityBut I wanted to try looking up some videos on Youtube just to look at clips but a lot of videos are about how the game is dead or dying and is a flop that won't last longerIs this true or just sensationalism? I like the game good enough and its let me reconnect with some old Halo buddies, and it would be sad to see it die
Actually crazy that you literally cannot do anything in this game unless you sweep the map and kill every other player on it. You are just at a statistical disadvantage while other players exist.
>>570266791>Is this true or just sensationalism?It has enough players for a difficult extraction shooter. It doesn't have enough for Bungie fanboys(aka Destiny faggots).Only retards and, or homosexuals care about "the health of the community".Nobody's paying them to check on the community or help it, they're either stupid, or emotional and gay(sissies).
>>570266791Game is staying up only on sony's charity at this point. It's probably not going to have the plug pulled immediately though. Have other games to play with your bros.>>570267018That is literally the intent. They wanted maximum hostility.
>>570267018It's a cool, unique game, other AAA games aren't so brutal. No balls
>>570267070>It has enough players for a difficult extraction shooter.As long as it has enough players for decent queuetimes and enough players to justify putting in new content in the future that's good enough for me.
>>570257426>Maintenance mode by fallAgain? Wasn't the game supposed to fully shut down by season 2?
>>570267156>Have other games to play with your bros.I tried getting them into Deadlock but they didn't like it, which is understandable. We mostly did a lot of Halo until college, but nothing really caught their attention until Marathon.
So whats up with shotguns?The game contains references to shotguns and I see them in the weapons cosmetics menu but I've never actually seen one in game and I'm close to 50 hours in the game now. Do they actually exist? Or are they just extremely 0,01% rare drops that are super busted or something?
>>570266046I think it was always like that, but yeah does it mean where I am now or somewhere else on the map?
>>570266791You mean the faggots that scrape by posting a video about how marathon is dying every single day? Yes those are sensationalist videos
>>570266414I always just like to think it's the UESC having rigged the intercom system to fuck around with the Runner entering into restricted spaces. Would make sense when you consider how much Orion is seething and late S1 introduced the snitch towers too.
>>570267278wasnt marathon supposed to get over 100k players? thats what the shills told me, the vibes were shifting.
>>570267610You used to be able to buy the WSTR shotgun from the shop but no more, sometimes it drops off enemies. There are 2 other shotties only available from high level loot containers.
>>570268104You can also get schemas for the misrah and circuit breaker from the (non-premium) battle pass.
>>570267610WSTR was much more common in S1 due to being occasionally available for free on armory refreshes from Arachne. Misriah/V85 have both always been pretty rare and mostly pop up in Outpost/Cryo or you might get lucky from profit opportunities to get schemas so you can barter for them. They all have a pretty decent niche too, with WSTR being likely the most situational when it went from being able to delete someone within your close promixity regardless of shield to being a melee combo weapon.
What are the ways that bungie can make the game more casual friendly in y'all's eyes? I think that they can't totally overhaul the game like fortnite did with it's tower defense mode, but I think they gotta do something to get the casual money in order to keep the game afloatBesides just adding the controversial PVE mode:>Add a safe pocket so casuals feel they have a safety net>Bring back CARRI points for pacifags>Make their quests different every season and actually develop the story. It's a crime they're not making their world evolve when games like Warframe and Helldivers can do it, and their world is so ripe for the potential>Add more progression systems that let casuals feel like they're made progress even if they die. It's why slot machines add sub bets: so people stay for feeling like they've won something even if they're getting fleeced.
>>570267954>has to deflect because Marathon is still up and doing finekekw
>Can't access Cryo Archive with the Cryo Archive Sponsored Kit???? Is this a bug? I'm pretty sure the game just told me to use the sponsored kit to go to Cryo Archive....
>>570267018>but extraction shooter>look inside>battle royale
>>570268305>What are the ways that bungie can make the game more casual friendly in y'all's eyes? Very few ways without it shifting genres. It's still plenty more friendlier in S2 too as most of the grinds have been cut into VIP territory as luxuries and the game showers even more gear at you from every single little thing you do.
>>570266791There were videos coming out about how much of a flop Marathon is less than an hour after the server slam started. While the game is definitely in a troubled state, these are not the people to get that information from.
>>570268451Do you meet the other requirements for cryo archive?>>570268318Pretending that the current trajectory is anything short of an absolute fucking disaster is a lethal level of toxic positivity. This game will need to change dramatically or it will die.
>>570267018Then why have I managed to do multiple solo runs in a row without running into another player? In any case, map clearing is gay.
>>570268451Yeah, seems to be a bug.
Laughable how blatantly unbalanced the battle pistol is, retard nigger lover developers, just deleting purple shields in an instant from range
>>570268879AFAIK it says I need 5k Loadout Value and minimum Runner Level 25.Is that referring to Cradle level which is only 14?my season level is 42
>>570268318>>has to deflect because Marathon is still up and doing finedeflect what? far more shills were hyping this game to the moon, far more than there were anyone earnestly saying shutdown in 2 months. flopathon.
>>570269190It is season level, rather than cradle level. Seems to be a bug since I'm encountering the same issue.
>>570269008In duos and trios you are forced to map clear
>>570269532Only if you are doing Pinwheel. And even then, it's up to the other team whether they want to contest or not. And they don't always do.
>>570269260uh oh melty
>>570269648you're still often better off taking the initiative to take them out instead of waiting to be contested
>>570266791Yes anon, you should listen to the retarded baboon niggers spasming on the floor while yelling "DOA" "Concord 3" "shutdown in a month". Especially since they started this behaviour in February's server slam (3,5 months ago).
>>570270153coping
>>570267475To be fair the current Deadlock patch sucks cock with the new urn.t. played for nearly 2000 hours :(Better to wait for them to figure out the meta on release.
>>570267018>You are just at a statistical disadvantage while other players exist.The only cases where you could combat any of of this applies to cases where the maps are built for direct conflict in an enclosed environment so people are being funneled like Cryo or Pinwheel. The low-mid risk maps have plenty of staggered exfils and there are always cases where you're either too far to make it in a minute or you're in the middle of fighting another team. There is also the consistent ambiguity. You can only count teams in the sense that you know they either exfil or you find bags or a corpse. In other cases, you might have situations where a third bolts and you either go into a cat and mouse game, spend an eternity camping bags or then have to accept the reality that the team might come back at a later stage of that very same match. Then you also had Rooks in S1, which added even more ambiguity so it's never so simple to just eyeball it. Plenty of cases where even the top players get completely socked by the fact that there was another team still lurking around the map.
>already season 1 playercount againLol raped game
>>570269260what shills?
>>570270840>I can't possibly enjoy this game because there are only 10k goyim playing it instead of 100k
>>570269132>16 dmg per bullet with 1.5x crit multiplier>Effective up to 35m>1140 RPM>Burst fire so DPS is more forgiving.>Bully: 15 dmg per bullet with 1.5x crit multiplier>Effective up to 35m and a little extra>540 RPM >To achieve around same results in effectiveness to a pretty much a green mag D54, you would have to have a Rodeo. I have no fucking clue why this gun slipped in with 16 dmg per shot with the range and crit multiplier it has. Just give it 14 with 1.4, tone down the effective range and it'll still remain both cost effective and good at dueling inside that 20m threshold.
>still haven't fixed map and queue selection resetting
>>570269008>Then why have I managed to do multiple solo runs in a row without running into another player?Most likely you're in noob matchmaking levels where there isn't anyuone else. Second most likely is that the other people are cheating and avoiding you.
>>570271121Matchmaking was breaking down on the asian timezone at 10k.
>volt thrower and scar are actually complete dogshit now that they nerfed the tracking
>in the little tower bit at intersection, Dire Marsh Night>someones taking the guarded exfil near quarantine >wait and see if they leave on it or not and they do>jump out the window to go run to quarantine and tag the Cert exfil>someone is literally just sitting outside the window not moving at all and just beams me down instantlyAfter being able to play duos/trios recently how the fuck did I ever enjoy this dogshit rat infested mode. It is so painfully boring just being forced to crouch walk everywhere around the fucking map. I'm about to just start playing Vandal only, run a battle pistol + green shield only, and just fucking full sprint across every PoI and take every faggot on in a fight instead.
>>570272383>this came to me in a dream
>>570272834The chinese 9 man australian rape train doesn't work if you have enough players to dilute the cryo runs. In any case, you think we'll still be above S1 by the end of s2?
>cryro archive>miss exfil by five seconds or so.First time my teammates got out, though, so that's kind of neat.
>>570272410Just read the map :)
>We're aware of an issue preventing Runners from taking the daily Cryo Archive Sponsored Kit into Cryo. Thank you for your reports and we'll share updates as soon as we have them.https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2065177846679806199
Hey... I know I'm supposed to care about cryo but... hahaha but ok basically.... I'm just not gonna do it until you add the pve version....SORRY hahaha I know I know... UGH I know.................... it's just that I'm not gonna do it is all HAHAHAHAHA
>>570275019You are committing economic warfare with your anti-PvP bigotry and you should feel bad.
>>570272032I appreciate the number breakdown, that's hilarious. Reminds me of blizzard balancing, no fucking clue what they're doing and then sweeping changes ranging from 25%-75% value changes
>>570272410Can't plan for every situation, so some goofy ass ambush deaths are par the course. It's just a fact of life in Solo. The other is the "Always a third" rule. It's likely the other player was also in the process of checking out the guarded exfil, heard you rummaging around in the tower and parked their sorry ass in a good spot. After you leaped out, it was just easy pickings at that point. I think early on in S1 when i started playing Solo the first few minutes after a nearby enemy exfil were always the most dangerous as there was the constant possibility of other players creeping around nearby, so most of my deaths were always that very nosy third-party.
Giving the Rook flares instead of claymores is humiliation.
lolwiped outpost with my green battle pistol + green shield then got greedy trying to do command wing as well I literally activated the restricted exfil inside Pinwheel but it despawned due to the timer :^)we go AGANE.
I fucking hate CryoHostile architecture, confusing set designs; make it almost impossible to learn how to exfil, let alone fight the Compiler and not enough time to do anything.I'll run it if they ever decide to make a PvE version of it.
>>570275778Heat grenades is the only explosives you get baseline this season. On one hand i can sort of get it, having access to claymores and old WSTR shotgun on round start in S1 gave Rooks a lot of staying power even without ever scavenging a single POI or grabbing extra guns from somewhere. You can still 1v3, but need to come prepared too.
I want a roadmap.
Have you noticed this before in the DCON shack near Station?
where the FUCK are the reverbs?
>>570276089fuck it we just run it back again ezpznot as lucky this time though
how sweaty is cyro rn?
>>570268532And that is the issue. Its a battle royale that is pretending to be an extraction shooter. Plays like Apex too.
>killed a vandal with a shit kit that was running a white battle pistol with white shields and unironically was using some kind of spam crouch macro
>>570280613tips for solo outpost?
>one week after s2 and f2p>cant crack 14k during euro hoursholy cooked, this is supposed to sustain for 3 months or however long the season is?
>>570281381let other players open pinwheel
>>570275778Flares are such a waste of space. Giving Rook 3 of them and making it hold 2 in its backpack is the cherry on top.
>>570281381I am this anon >>570272410 and just decided "fuck it" and started heavy pushing every motherfucker I see and it's working out because half the players in solo don't know how to deal with full on aggression. Generally though, you want to spawn in, get the closest red keycard (get ready to fight for it instantly if its dorms/processing), then collect the rest. Rotate around the map and play off your spawn point, e.g. if you spawned dorms, grab the keycard and rotate to processing, there will be a player (or two) there to kill and you can get the keycard, then do the same at flight control. If they aren't at flight control, 90% chance they are at Orientation instead. If you get lucky and can find 3/5 batteries for Destroyed Wing quickly, then try and scout the easy to get to spots and if it isn't there, write it off because it'll take too much time fucking around and gawking at random spots on the map like a brainless chicken
>>570281363I ran into one of those yesterday on perimiter, it was absurd. they weren't even good too.
>>570281738Yeah they tried to power slide away and I just shot them down.
>>570272410>>in the little tower bit at intersection, Dire Marsh NightWhat's tower, anyway? I keep seeing people talk about it.
>>570281958Random image off Google but I was in this spot. To the right, outside those green gates, is the direction to Quarantine and Algae Ponds is just visible on the left. The dude who killed me was literally just sat in that little part underneath the right-side window for some reason.
>>570282192Is that related to the MIDA markings you need darklight scopes to see?
>>570282470No ideaAFAIK the only marking visible with Darksight are inside Upper Complex at Night.
Alright I'll ask: what happened to the discord server that was posted during the first days of the general?
>>570282720>what happened to the discord server that was posted during the first days of the general?Trancels are bad at video games, got broken and filtered
>>570275019>I'm just not gonna do it until you add the pve version....>>570275313>your anti-PvP bigotry and you should feel bad.I will buttfuck you both relentlessly
>>570279787That's new. Interesting.There was a message at the end of the Cryo is Up when logging on, claiming new secrets
>>570275778Can't have the risk of rooks embarrasing some streamers now.
>>570275778>>570281629What's even the point of flares honestly? If I see a flare I know a player is there, it's not like it's somehow less apparent than someone with a flashlight.
>>570276363You don't have the gear to fight the compliler. If you're running it this early, you are just trying to survive the initial fights, and trying to get into a position where you might be able to extract.
Why can't I make loadouts again?
s2 is back down to s1 lows in a week. actually crazy. eos soon
>>570285973hardcore game. building your loadout manually is hardcore, no bitching.
>>570286031>eos soonFirst ever written in June or March? Call it.
What determines if you trust someone or not in this game? I came across a guy doing a quest to kill a UESC commander. I unfortunately had already started shooting him but he got to say what he was doing and I held my fire. I actually ended up helping him dunk on the UESC which sort of fits with me roleplaying as a Traxus Affiliated Runner. Realistically, he could have shot me in the back at any moment. I wouldn't say I am quick to trust people as I almost didn't stop firing but then I saw the ships fly in with the UESC troopers and I knew he was telling the truth. Anytime I come across situations like this and I DON'T kill the guy, I always wonder if I am not blood thirsty enough. I definitely kill players abruptly and quickly but sometimes I just don't. Especially if they try and communicate over prox with the mic.
>>570280924Some people can't get in for unknown reasons. My disgusting sweathog teammates are in. Nobody has free kits.Out of the couple of dozen or so teams we've taken out so far. 3 of them were gold shield misrah trios. You should be ready for a fight at 85 seconds. We're seeing teams that are organized and ready for a spawn rush at 90 seconds.Matchmaking might not put you at the top level with us, but the fundamentals of going in with full gear, rushing, or being ready for a counter attack is the way to go. >>570286280LOL. That was first written several years ago.
>>570286541you exist to feed me purples
rook running out outpost just now, the timing worked out beautifully where the team in pinwheel had just pressed the second button to open command wing but hadn't got back to the center yet as I was entering pinwheel. made it into command wing before the team and grabbed some blue salvage + valuables but nothing crazy.I had the opportunity to gtfo but I got greedy and lost everything fuuuuuuuckk
>already back to season 1 numbersCUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
star wars crossover when???i'd settle for an avengers one too
>>570279787It's been there since day 1
Double cheeseburger
I don't get how the fuck people can hear me so clearly when they are looting, I thought sounds got muffled but every time I push on a guy looting he fucking snaps out of it instantly.
>90s spawn rush I thought they fixed that?
>>570287769Of course you are going to stop looting if you hear footsteps getting louder
I'm convinced the melee in this game is completely fucked>Assassin running at me>Heavy melee him>I'm sentinel and have 40 cradle strength, so this should be enough to crack his shield>Animation shows me magnetising to him>Plays the sound effect of me hitting him>See blood come out of the assassin>Melee did no damage>He is able to swipe at me twice while I'm stuck in the animation and kill meFucking infuriating beyond belief
13k players on a free day + cryo being openl m a o
Man, something about this game is so addicting. I played the free week so I could know what I'm shitting on but now that it's over I keep thinking about playing again
>>570288603The free trial is over
>>570288782>
>>570288782It's a rush you don't get with anything else.
>>570288842that makes it worse, usually cryo opens up to an increase of players following the wednesday, instead its on track to lose players, probably a nice chunk of f2p players were holding up the numbers the past week but the loss does not seem so bad because of the cryo bump.
>>570289352that's lovely, dear.
>>570288782the raped(free)
I forget does 4chan's vanilla interface let you filter individual words or is that just for the catalogue
how's perimeter survival then? I imagine it's just you competing with your team-mates on how fast you can hoover up the biostripping?
>>570289637kinda yeah, it's not really so much of a challenge, I've yet to meet a rooklast run though one of those big gunships spawned RIGHT ON TOP of the exfil, we were all downed in the circle but made itIs there a way to kill those? Nothing I can think of seems powerful enough. I've tried sniping it and it gives a damage mark but I've never seen one dead.
>>570267070>Only retards and, or homosexuals care about "the health of the community".guess it's retarded caring that a game you like is doing well enough to continue getting new content instead of being shelved because it's not economically viable
>>570289637It's just a chill time completing contracts.
>kill a team of blue shields>pick up a cryo 01 and 03 key>fight the last team and lose>finished my contract though>contract reward was a cryo 05 keyoh wow, they made cryo easier.
>>570289796Hundreds and hundreds of buillets
>>570289439thank you
>still haven't fixed the bug with the codex not giving the VIP rank rewards for S1
>>570290563The contracts are technically easier yeah, so vidmaster will def be a bit of a joke to get now, but holy fuck is the green laser bug annoying as hell
>>570289637>it's just you competing with your team-mates on how fast you can hoover up the biostripping?you can play it solo, fyi.
I have no idea how to operate in trios. I have 200 hours as a solo. I mostly just follow people because I feel uneasy about everyone looting at the same time. At least when its just me I am super aware and don't loot when it isn't safe etc. In trios, seems like my team mates hoover everything and I am just always looking around. I just don't trust them to be aware.
>cryo sweats are complaining vaults aren't giving good loot after abusing PvE Night Marsh for a week and a halfHonestly the way some faggots complain about loot in this game despite already being better equipped than 90% of the playerbase kind of pisses me off. Maybe the game should just die.
anyone else having long queues tonight?
I boughtEoS announcement within the next 24 hours
having a blast as i prepare a material event disclosure due to imminent eos and bankruptcy
>Cryo unplayable day one because everyone already has gold Miz and gold bullies>Bugged free kitWelp GG it was fun while it lasted, sad to see that this game just turned into a worse Apex and died.
>>570295617At this rate just delete everything below purple shields and make that the baseline. All freekits come with a Mizzy too fuck it.
>Lets see how Marathon is doing with Cryo being open for the first time in Season 2, there must be tons of content creators streaming it on Twitch!>Oh
Would buy for some casual matches (lol) but 28€ is too expensive for that, given what the game offers if you're not serious with a trio at it.
best place to do this bullshit is in solo night marsh right? i have like 7 darksight scopes and some vector grenades to start burning throughalso i found out the only way to get vector rounds to count as kills is to shoot the ground next to a bot first then kill it
>>570298003I got it for $23.50 (~20 €) off of gamebillet, a legit key reseller
>>570298003I wouldn't pay more than 20usd, maybe 25 hopefully during summer sale.
>>570293273I don't agree with the game dying part, but the players bitching about only getting 4 purple shields and prestige salvage when they do a vault saying it's not worthwhile loot (aka "not a misriah that can no skill carry me in fights") do piss me off.Like it's week 2, having a stock of purple shields is already a massive leap forward in progression for the rest of the season.
I boughted
>>570296540don't worry, assistmedoom's sponsored stream will save the game for sure
>>570292921>I have 200 hours as a solo.crazy to me that people can play the game like that, solo is such an unpleasant experience.as for playing in trios, just be aware of your surroundings and call out anything you notice like footsteps or interesting loot or whatever
I thank that if they add gjallarhorn the game will became more popular
>>570301298>(ROW)yikes
Well, Cryo is exactly as cancerous as it was at the very end of last season. We got rotated into in 90s in our first run. Second run we rotated in 2m after getting lucky, and got third partied while killing another team.
Remember when they "fixed" spawn rushing?
>>570286031I do think they're going to get the green light by end of the year for D3, and they'll probably put Marathon into a soft maintenance mode after that. I don't really blame Sony for forcing Bungie to at least TRY to make Marathon a success by ending D2 development but its pretty clear Marathon is never going to be a big draw of a game. Its too niche and hardcore for most players. My guess is Bungie is set to work on D3 with the goal to release it by PS6's release date in ~2029
My friend wants to kill himself every time we do Duos and honestly I kind of get it as someone who spent the majority of time solo. Duos and Trios are just a completely different game and I honestly kind of hate it too.
>STILL SOMEHOW losing players after the big S2 and the big F2PKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>570304463I feel like there's probably a cheat out there that just shows where security tags, batteries, and monitors are, and it just flies under the radar since the anticheat is fuckin useless and it's normal behavior to find those things, just accelerated massively by cheating, allowing people to rotate in sub 2 minutes.
Give it to me for real fellow marathonersAre we dead game?
I would've boughted the game if they exempted it from PS Plus.
>>570308252I can believe it desu.
>>570304463>>570308252>>570308474I have a feeling it is indeed like that.Lack of a functional anti-cheat is quite telling in the game like this, and also tanks player numbers. Who wants to play a game where any potential opponent is a cheater? And its not like there is a PvE mode where people can just go to to avoid that issue either.
so we've moved on from just charts posting and now it's the false concern shit. ok.
>>570307651whats the duos like compared to trios? i have no friends that play so ive always crew filled trios, been wondering if crew fill duos would be any better/worse
And now Cryo's closed. This season has not been doin too hot in the "not being totally fuckin broken" department.Least I got a compiler trace out before the pool got closed.
bros...wtf.....s2....save...gane
>>570310834I was taking a break from mara what happened
>>570311224https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2065277113742110884Some people were unable to be revived if they were eliminated, just trapped in bag form forever even if their teammates won the fight. So they turned off the Cryo queue for now while they figure out how the fuck it's broken this time.
>>570311790ooof
spawned into empty outpost with pinwheel unlockedthis kind of freaked me out and I did not loot hound as much as I should have.
>>570311790>loadout menu defaulting to trios>can't enter cryo with a cryo kit>now can't revivewonder what their testing process is like or if they have one at all
sponsored survival players don't expect rooks at alljust almost 1v3'd a team (i traded last kill)
i like the game but man this is bad
>>570310834Completely different feel from Season 1. 1 felt meticulous, frequent updates, frequent communication. Here it's just more of the same and sloppy patch ups like nerfing complex after advertising it as filled with high tier loot. Marathon is absolutely not surviving past season 3 at this rate.
>>570316976It does feel like they've stumbled and tripped in their rush. I can forgive it if it all comes out better for it, though.
>Sponsored Night Marsh instantly breaks progression>battle pistol is horribly OP>broken rook spawns>queuing is weird >broken sponsor kit>revives broken>cryo disabledS2 is actually a shitshow
>>570317659Out of these, honestly the second is more damning then the rest. Those are just blunders. Shipping the D54 in the state that it is just screams incompetence. Did anyone in the dev team honestly not think to check how ridiculously strong a pulse pistol with 1140 RPM with higher damage per bullet than Bully actually is?
>>570316976The complex nerf was stupid, it was only a problem because it had the same loot pool on sponsored so people farmed the shit out of it risk free.In an actual lobby getting up there and doing the boss event while dealing with 5 other teams is objectively more effort than getting through pinwheel or even getting all 3 red cards. Now it hardly feels worth the effort outside of the decent chance at a prestige salvage, unless maybe you have a dark sight lens and do the work of opening both extra loot rooms
>>570317895It’s almost hard to attribute to incompetence or even lack of testing, it’s pretty common for live service games to release new shit in a semi-broken state to make it exciting and “fun” to use, then bring it down to appropriate power levels.But there’s a difference between the battle pistol being slightly better than the older SMGs and a green one being on par with a fully kitted bully.It almost feels like WSTRing people during early season one except you can delete them in an instant from 20m away this time.
>>570316463it is what it isthe game is good. if it dies its a shame but its all the more reason to play it now while its here.
>page 10HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHADROWNDROWNDROWNDROWN
time for crew fill complex i guess.
Crew fill or solo?For completing prio contracts and just in general
>>570289637Play it solo. I don't think rooks spawn if you do.
>>570326949They totally do. in fact doing it solo was the first and only time I ever saw more than one rook while doing sponsored survival
This season fucking sucks
This season fucking rocks, I'm rich
Lmfao
Casual experiment has failed reverse thrusters to hardcore
>>570329371>The power gap between blue/green squads and the full purple ones is just frustratingly massive. These niggas will bring up any cope they can rather than except "The other player is more skilled than me"The difference between a green shield and a purple shield is 4 body shots with an Overrun, or 3 headshots. At most. all you need to do vs a purple is get the drop first. I really don't get why this happens in extraction shooters. You don't see anybody in something like Call of Duty going "I wish this game had a PvE mode only for multiplayer"
>I hate getting plapped by human playersYou WILL take my human player shlong. You WILL take it like a good boy
>>570330330I never even got enough karma to post there
>>570330308Damn Ellen baby, nice jumpshots
>>570330415Thx cutie
I'm actually considering buying the game and ragehacking just to piss off some sweats.
>>570329371how are people getting it into their heads that other teams are friendly beyond matters of situational convenience?Arachne is outright murderous and even the CyAc intro blurbs half of them are just "yeah go kill em boss"That's just the theming/set dressing as well, not even touching on the whole competing for the same resources stuff.
>>570330768>how are people getting it into their heads that other teams are friendly beyond matters of situational convenience?Brainwashed by Tiktok and Youtube arcraider videos. >Hi Hi i'm friendly, don't shoot people or you're a rat!
>>570330330I think sponsored NM was brilliantIt gave players mini events almost every minuteMade complex VERY challenging and time consuming you had to plan everything and even deal with some RNG to get a good runSponsored Perimeter is awful because the map is awful and ugly and because THERE IS NO INTERESTING LOOT for newfag PvErs to getBungie needs to realise there should be a de facto PvE option at all times
>>570332980>Made complex VERY challengingFor who? I tried it like 5 times and killed the boss every time.
>7 hours>cryo is STILL downjesus christ
Third death today to the pistol.I think im done.
>>570335782Just use it yourself. It's literally only 400 credits or so
>>570332980>Made complex VERY challengingI don't know what your problem is, I found it rather simple
>10 minutes to get a game on Night Marsh>when I finally queue up my two fills have white kits while I'm rocking a blue loadout>refuse to use their mics despite clearly having them enabled>don't listen to me at all and just run off making noise shooting at random shit and sprinting everywhere>predictably die and drag me kicking and screaming to the grave since splitting off from your trio is just death anyway so it's not an actual option>worst part is I almost managed to 1v3 but got downed by the last guyit's actually insane how playing fills is just a gamble on whether you get retards that sabotage your run or people who actually feel like contributing and not acting like a lunatic. Season 1 was never THIS bad
>>570335782it's nuts how good it is. I had a purple copperhead and I lost in a straight up fight against someone with it despite hitting all of my shots and being in effective range
>>570311790kkekarooo we're already at the destiny 2 tier of bugs
>>570337298Second game of the season I watch my buddy in purple shields with a fully kitted bully get deleted by someone with a green shield and I assume green pistol. He made no wrong play, good angle, hit his shots but it just couldn’t compete against that things insane ttk
I think the disappointment in this game is settling in for me. Just not enough content and with all of the basic mistakes they're making, along with low returns, I don't have confidence in this Bungie. If there isn't a new map and significant story additions next season then they should just cut the losses and move on from the project.
>>570338121yeah
Sentinel might not be the best for solo play.
First entry from the third drinkable cheeseburger codex.Second from one of the dire marsh voice logs.
>>570339509Huh. Never heard of this bean.
>>570338917It'd be nice if his fucking prime wasn't niche, and could be switched to a weak turret by holding q
>>570339691it's good! they used to make a tamarind flavored kool-aid. it's kinda like iced tea.
>>570338917He isn't the best for anything bar for potentially Cryo.
>>570340402I misread the abilities when I first took him out and got really confused when his defender thing didn't start shooting enemies. It really should have even limited turret functionality.But yeah you can tell that most of the jobs are really built around team play - triage and sentinel in particular. Vandal and assassin seem the best for solo. Vandal is basically my main.
>>570338917If you're not stealth maxing, why not use Triage? Man walking with 0.5 HP
>>570342186I needed to get the 20 sentinel exfils.
Uh oh
kino
>play with guy I haven't ran with for a while that is competent and chill>fucking job and spill my spaghetti in every game with him
>>570335937I dont want to win because of abusing, also learning to play with it is probably a waste anyway since it's gonna be nerfed.You win because you're weak in your own ability and have to rely on a crutch, i win because of my superior skills.
>>570342496Has anyone here heard any news on Sonys reaction to whats going on between Marathon and Destiny?
>>570344020
>mogs blue shieldsGeorge Droyd is dangerous
>>570343783What weird ass cope is this You aren't even winning bro you just hopped into the thread to complain about dying to it for the third time and giving up
>>570336387season 1 was exactly that bad, but by the end of the season they got filtered out by the matchmaking. this season the andys are back
>>570344205lol lrn2edit
>>570344508That's not edited, took fent and blinked
Finished the Night Marsh quests. Now I can play the real game.
>>570344661kek
>Battle PistolOh yeah
who up cryoing they archiveworks on my machine :^)
Free to play dudes would try every map, Playstation is stupid for kicking them out.Wussies took their vaginas to sponsored Perimeter, who the fuck is playing regular maps?
>>570332980True. PvE is for training and loot getting purposes. PvP is for glory and losing that loot.
>>570344205Wait you can zap enemies with his revive arms?Holy shit, I wanna give that a go now.Used to love getting defib kills in battlefield.
Why did Fortnite steal /ourguy/ and kill Marathon?
>>570347415>Wait you can zap enemies with his revive arms?Doesn't do much damage, it EMPs them, they can't use abilities. Takes a second to charge, so don't forget to charge it while they can't shoot you. And take fent, pain won't stop you.
>>570347404I know it has bike cuck-ish vibes to say so but it's an important part of the cycle to be the walking lootbox for another player. In fact that's given me the idea to clear some of my vault by going in with an inventory just full of crap when I go on a contract run that doesn't involve picking stuff up.>get killed by another player>they open my bag and discover 300 patch kits or like 200 unstable gun metal
>>570347404>PvE is for training and loot getting purposes. PvP is for gloryThere's no glory with free, unearnerned loot. In Season One we PvP'd for loot. We eradicated weaklings.
>>570347565Aw. Would have been better if it did enough damage to down someone but I get why that isn't the case. I'd have hoped it would immobilize them at least. >>570347461Speaking of: why no Pomni Vandal skin Bungie
Trap bags carried in inventory should auto deploy if you're downed.
>>570348402In fact I wonder if it's possible to fully hide a mine by clipping it inside a bag.
Sony is so fucking stupid for not keeping it free. They how to know it will not be possible to keep players this fall, too many games are coming. Just let everyone stay on it this summer, for free. >why do you careI care because I'm playing now, I will not be playing Marathon this fall.
Season 3 content is probably ready, judging by season 2, there's barely any content at all.So release S3 and S4 now, during the summer. No one will play this later.
>I will be playing worse games instead
do bots make the alert noise from sprinting or door noise now? sometimes they just spaz out and keep alerting then running around for no reason
>>570351502They've always been sensitive to door sounds, I'm not sure about running, I feel like they're most likely to react when you're running up on them from behind.
>>570332980They should just make at least 1 event guaranteed to spawn every map, in both normal and survival modes
>>570352191I was sprinting up quarantine roof and heard thm alert, was right at the start of a run so pretty sure nobody else around
Related question: do bots take more damage if they're not altered? I swear I've had one shot KOs on unaware enemies that I couldn't replicate on alerted bots, though that could just be because they're harder to hit.
>It's another case of losing a duel with BR33 at 35+ meters against D54.Whoever shipped this thing needs to be skinned by a pack of Arachne niggers. Who the hell gives a 400 cred sidearm 1140 RPM and higher damage and crit multiplier than a BR33? They couldn't just fucking give it the same damage as BR and keep the RPM while cutting down on the range. It isn't meant for CQC duels now, it's just a superior BR in the quarters where the DPS actually matters.
>>570349583Cod is gonna flop since it attracts the same gamers that buy GTAWolverine is gonna sell a shitload
>>570342496What the fuck is delta force
>>570339691>>570341109Just try the actual juice from the actual fruit, it's amazing
>>570353676>Cod is gonna flop since it attracts the same gamers that buy GTAIf you think most adults aren't buying both, you're very wrong. And I will be there, to grief them. DMZ - Modern Warfare extraction mode, will find a way to get into the "SBMM protected" normal lobbies with wagies. GTA - will get into vibe&chill sessions by lying, and when they start discussing things, when people start enjoying themselves, I'll suddenly start killing them.Did this on Arc Raiders, Marathon S1, GTA and Red Dead online. >Marathon didn't have chill lobbiesYes, it did have players who wanted to exfiltrate, I made sure they didn't make it.
>>570352410maybe you got headshot with the knife and didnt other times
>>570354101blud thinks he's tuff
>>570353676I don't see how the Wolverine game sells, Sony first party has been very mediocre lately and even normies have noticed. Plus it's not even an open world game, and capeshit is played out. There are just so many other games coming out it seems like an easy skip. As the other anon said COD will still sell. People want modern warfare to return
Marathon bros, is this what happened to you too? Bad guys hurt your feefees?
>>570354618PvE players should be seen and not heard
>>570354371I helped thousands of c*sual Marathon players leave early, oh yeah
>>570354618I'm so, so, SO, tired of people insisting games need PvE; especially when the game began as a PvP game. No one plays PvE games anymore, everyone plays PvP or PvP adjacent games nowadaays.People who insist PvE isn't dead or worse, needed, are Millennial and Gen Z Boomers, no one fucking wants to play boring single-player games old manAdding PvE to Marathon would kill the game in its entirely, completely
>>570355183All my gamer friends are faggot pussies and only want to play co-op multiplayer or lame story games. The market is there.
>>570355183You don't want to play looting shopping cart simulator? Go in, pick up trash, send it to stash, and do it again?You must be a tryhard sweat
>>570354548Do you think average game buyer knows names of devs and publishers?
>>570355183PvE extraction games can work, the enemies just need to provide a challenge. Look at Mewgenics, for example.
die
>>570355248>All my gamer friends are faggot pussiesSounds like /mg/ when Marathon first released. Threads were titled>game is hard edition>game is a rape factory edition>seal clubbing edition(means it's like hitting seals with sticks, killing helpless creatures)Anyways, when Marathon released, this thread was full of faggot pussies. Most of them left, there's only lorefags and campers here now
>>570316976I'm guessing with s1 they mostly just had to go along with what they had planned all along and had devs ready on standby for bugfixing, but partway into it as most bugs were squashed and focus could shift back to development Sony started pushing for some massive changes so that the game isn't a flop, which has probably had them tied up in work>>570347741that unstable gunmetal is great cradle food anon
>>570354548>COD will still sell. People want modern warfare to returnPeople will call it a camper-infested sweatfest, after 1(one) week. There will be the same level of whining as Marathon had.
>>570354820>>570355183You are the minority, that is why you're game is deading
>>570339691It's from a tree
>>570356258The game is hated by a swarm of destinytards, no one would care about 15K online if this game wasn't by Bungie.
>>570355183PvE is going to get added. The ship is sinking and they want to try and save it.
>>570355434It should be forced solo
>>570356751That makes no sense though, if they want to save it they need to improve the PvP make sure SBMM doesn't get added. Adding PvE would sink the ship faster, unless thats what they want to do.
>>570356857>Adding PvE would sink the ship faster, unless thats what they want to do.That is what they are going to do. They've said it. PvE is coming.
>>570356857>improve the PvP make sure SBMM doesn't get addedlollmao
>>570356974>PvE is coming.Fortunately it's too late, other, bigger games will take up people's time.The perfect time was this summer. No one will play Marathon this fall.
It'll be fine.
>S1Casuals got stomped beyond repair>S2Casuals got gaped every time they tried anything, but the current sponsored map.Casuals could not play all the maps, without getting dicked down. I'm happy about this. Kukuku
>>570355183>vocal minorityYou PvPfags ruin every single game because you are like locusts - consume and ruin and move on to another thing.>RTSDead because PvPfags forced esports into the genre.>FPS/TPSRuined because Battle Royale is a thing now. Also rampant cheating.>MOBAUltra-toxic environment.And all of it is made orders of magnitude worse by streamers and social media.If anything, Bungie should give you retards a boot and turn this game into a knockoff Fallout 76 - huge persistent map, events, etc.>those tears of vocal minority who played Nuclear Winter exclusively while hollering that removing that mode that made no money and had no place in the game will kill the gameLOL. Never cater to PvPfags.
>>570357525Have you ever wondered why people IRL dont llike you?
>>570349583dude they made it free and only 40k people showed up. the majority of them were probably returning players too. making it free has not worked, casuals aren't interested either way
>>570357732People IRL like to watch me draw, my neighbors think I'm cool ;)But I was always a spiteful subhuman, yes.
>>570356058doesn't matter if it sells
>>570356857What does improving the PvP look like to you? What could they possibly do that is solely a PvP focused content update that wouldn't impact PvE at all?PvP is already there, and what you want is just more flavors and different scenarios for PvP in which to take place. Improving heavily upon the PvE aspect of the game deepens the PvPvE experience, and thus the PvEPeople who complain about adding PvE into ES have this mindset that it'll draw away cannon fodder, while ignoring that that fodder can only be fodder so long before they get fed up and just completely drop the game
>>570357843The damn things are creepy, being apparently able to mimic pretty much any sounds they deem appropriate.
>>570357964Some people just like clubbing seals, and will cream a bloody murder should they not be permitted to do so or run out of seals to club.
>>570357964*deepens the PvPvE experience, and thus the PvP
>>570357964>What does improving the PvP look like to you?Not him, but more maps. Not fucking night shit, a different big map, a different small map. They should release 2 maps per season. Not the reskin trash they did.
>>570358097>Some people just like clubbing sealsNot really, I like animals. But when it comes to people, I like pissing them off. I hate seeing people happy, and if it was easy to get away with it, I'd club them IRL
>>570357964For me, improving PvP would mean its ranked (no holotags though) and sponsored kit only. Different tiers fo kits for different ranks.
>just betrayed a friendly player in solos for a green bully and 4 of each green medsam i going to hell? i wonder if he'll quit the game and write a salty reddit post or steam review
>>570358469>Different tiers fo kits for different ranks.How would you balance that? If a green kit stomps all blues, he goes to purple or gold rank?What happens when you're a gold and fuck up the golds, which kit do you get?
>>570357964Make it so White Kits or as I like to call them, kitiggers can't join trios and duos who have anything higher than green shields
>>570358898That sounds cool, I wanna be a Kitigger
>>570358898none of these solutions matter because you need a healthier playerbase to do them. Every solution to this game's problem requires slicing thinner and thinner segments because nobody actually likes the core game. We're doing everything but admitting that the genre is just bad.
>>570358331New maps also benefits PvE and if anything almost benefit PvE moreCan only run around the same maps in PvE before it gets boring, at least PvP inherently creates a factor of randomness and unique scenarios that you can't really get in a PvE experience without loads of potential variables to chuck in there>>570358469So you want the game to be even less of an extraction shooter? >>570358898For both of you, these aren't really content updates. These are things you could change with relative ease while still heavily focusing on developing PvE content. My whole point is that developing things for PvE doesn't take away from PvP despite how some people act like it would. The worst thing you're likely to run into it is lower tier players likely to leave the game regardless shifting to PvE, and PvP balancing eventually being neglected if PvE just becomes overwhelmingly popular
Fix Cryo already
>>570358458>and if it was easy to get away with it, I'd club them IRLjust be black
>>570359903On the inside I'm the niggest
>>570358740>bronzeGreen kits.>silverBlue kits.>goldPurple kits.>Diamond/Platinum/Rhodium/UnobtaniumGold kits.>"Pinnacle"No kits. Knife only.
>>570359517>So you want the game to be even less of an extraction shooter?Give a definition of an extraction shooter.
>>570360728>No kits. Knife only.Lol fuck you, my smoke cheese strategy only works when I have a gun and can shoot people in the back
>>570355183It also seems like no one wants an extraction shooter made by the company known for deleting paid content. What's your solution to keep Marathon from dying? At our current trajectory we'll be dead by February if Sony doesn't let Bungie operate at an indefinite loss like M$ does for 343.
>>570355183>no one plays pve game anymoreretarduber retard even
>>570361095>Give a definition of an extraction shooter.Not him, but here
Does the /mg/ bussy work on Fridays? Why isn't she saying that PvPers ruin everything? Where are you bby girl.
still getting used to the game, what factions and upgrades are the most important to prioritize? atm I'm levelling NuCal, Mida, and SekGen for shields, nades, and cradle xp respectively
>Try to chem through an entire team from an angle in a Pinwheel doorway when teammate is crawling to safety in DBNO from that very spot.>Teammate tosses down kneejerk bubble on top of the other teammate who is already around the corner and in range of the defender system.>Now it's our entire team swimming in chem.We had to take two L's with me solo killing a flanker and then the bubble dude finishing their last guy sitting at like 6 health from my shots from his hidey hole. I'm always livid when people create a thunderdome when there's practically no need and you've got an excellent spot to castle up.
>>570362041It's actually a national holiday today, I get a day off.
>>570361095(Hardcore) loot focused game with permanent item loss (and meta progression)Sure, you can take away bringing in loot as part of that by making it sponsored kit only, but you're taking away from the fundamental aspect of the game being based around loot you find. The idea that successfully exfilling for some progression items found in maps is what makes people call Helldivers 2 an extraction shooter, which it absolutely is not
>no vault space>still gonna use green hybrid build to rape purples and take their gearI just can't stop
>>570362236Ok baby, good to see you here.
>>570361458LOL, filtered faggot.
>>570362857None shall defy me, I'll break the rules and bring a gun
>>570355183>no one plays PvE games anymoreHow many PvE games have raped Marathon? Its been so many I've lost track. Crimson Desert, Slay the Spire 2, Resident Evil 9... oh I guess you could throw Destiny 2 in there too now hahaha.
>>570363116only actual PvE game there is D2. the others are singleplayer (yes, I know of StS2's multiplayer mode, still).
>Die in hauler in solos >say in prox chat "Vandal you dont want to kill me">she steps over my body and closes the door allowing me to self revive and leaveSimply just ask to not be shot and marathon is ez
>>570363116>Its been so many I've lost track>lists 4 gamesOh no no... chuds, ahahaha, what's this?
>>570359546Is this an original creation anon? I love the art but its unfortunately unsharable because people would get mad.
>>570355183I play mostly singeplayer games and think PVP should be mandatory in Marathon
I hate trio fills so much it fucking sucks that all my friends have quit
>>570364143Marasissy, if I listed how many games PvE or not that raped Marathon I would be here for a long time. But here...>https://steamdb.info/charts/Look for yourself little sissy. Witness how raped your little game is.
>>570364278>people would get mad.Of course it's original, straight from the soul
>>570363116>>570363813>>570364143Genuinely arguing in bad faith if you're trying to make out that co-op games aren't popular. Hell, it's part of what makes PvP games popular too, because you can play with your friendsHelldivers 2, DRG, Borderlands, the legacy of insanely popular co-op games like L4D, Killing Floor 1&2 and Payday 2 that unfortunately got shitty or no sequels, All the friendslop, each and every multiplayer survival craft game, and countless more
>>570365569Left for Dead sequel was good
>>570365569Forgot to also add that Marathon is at its best when you're playing trios with your friends and can be coordinated. How many times have I seen people complain about how shitty random queue is of people having mismatched loadouts, running off on their own, not using mics, stealing all the loot, not carrying their weight, etcHumans are social creatures, we like to do things with our friends. It's inherent that co-op games are popular>>570366156Yeah don't know why I left that out, reluctantly had to mention KF2 even though I hate it because it's popular
>>570364394Nice, I like you
>>570362254>extractionCan only complete a match/game by leaving the map/zone through a secure point.>shooterYou shoot guns or game is predominantly focused on using ranged weapons.Thats it.What you have described is a looter game abomination. Loot is a fundamental aspect for a looter game, sure. And that is an issue - you have tacked on garbage onto a game, and then proclaim that the game type is about the tacked on garbage, and if it were to lose the garbage, it would no longer be the game. Misrepresentation and conflation.
>>570362554... because you have an aim bot doing hard work for you. Without it, you are just an avergae scrub.
>>570364394
>>570366890>ou have an aim bot doing hard work for youI use sound, before I use aimbot, 90% of the time people don't even understand what's happening. I'm that good at sneaking up!
>thermals nerfed>Thief x-ray doesn't work at long rangethe perfect time for sniping, hard to detect you from far away
>>570367575good clip anon
>>570292921Your noob teammates don't know either. > I just don't trust them to be aware.This is correct.
>>570366156At the time it was seen as a cash grab since it came out so soon after the original
>>570367575I think I just have shit situational awareness because I never spot other players before they spot me
>>570295617Skill issue. Specifically skill at farming. You could have had that shit too.>>570295927Just turn it to a battle royalle. Play with a disadvantage or go catch up.
>>570367369Doesnt mean shit if your aim is wonky.
>Triosnon-stop quad team slugfest slip-n-slide poke fiesta a la the finest Apex Legends matches where the lobby is decided in the first 10 minutes>Duosmore of the same >SolosThe closest to feeling like an actual ES
>>570304463It's better in that the map glitches and oddities we used last season are gone. It's worse in that I'm a biotoxic disinjector, and grenade limits from being at full end of season level equipment. >>570308252My disgusting teamates don't have a 100 percent loot rate. I think loot is generated dynamically on open. What does exist is "flag anything lootable, colored by loot class".
>>570308358No. Aborted premature. Thrashing around on the floor. Still playable. Never alive. Enjoy it while it's here.
>>570309429Don't be so salty anon. Online cheating is everywhere. No need to imagine cheaters doing what they aren't. A very large number of cheaters use it to mostly avoid you altogether.
>>570366610>Can only complete a match/game by leaving the map/zone through a secure pointIf successfully completing a mission is the main point of ES, then does that make every single mission based game an extraction game? Is L4D an extraction shooter because you have to progress through a level to a safe point? Are Search and Destroy & Counterstike matches ES because you have to secure a point for a certain amount of time to win the match? Are those too far fetched for you? Would Helldivers 2 be an extraction game if exfilling was the win condition rather than just finishing your mission? If you want to take the looting out, then it's just randomized loadouts, but now the only reason you're going through levels is to complete a mission or exfil immediately to secure a good loadout for later. Your gear being loot based and revolving around an outside stash are inherently part of the genre to set it apart from theseIf this means that it's a looter game abomination, then that's just what extraction shooters are, looter game abominationsI left out shooting because it's not a necessary element for an extraction type game. You could easily adapt all the different roguelike variations people have made into an extraction format where loot is kept in between runs and can be lost in an unsuccessful one
>>570326945Whichever is easier, defaulting to fill. You will need to learn trios anyways for cryo, or be a bitch who misses out on a big chunk of the game.
>>570367868>I never spot other players before they spot meTry this, you won't hear Oni talk, you won't hear music, or your shell. But, you should be able to notice people sprinting at a distance.
>>570334620My filthy team wanted a cryo kill or two by now. They're raging.
>>570339691Under no condition is it better than actual fucking normal mexican fruit. It's more weird shit like drinking hibiscus juice.
>>570344020Well, the fact that they have decided to push Break in, formerly fairgame$ as a free to play team extraction shooter is a sign of low confidence, and also affects Marathon's ability to go free to play. Other than that it's just the shit from the fiscal year end. >We expect no additional impairment.And what happens if they DO lose money constantly? How do you get to avoiding impairment? >>>570344119They haven't hinted at even the possibility of a new game at any of the shows. I'm getting nothing but straight depression from the few concept artists and people like that I checked on. Mass layoffs are guaranteed. It's really a question of how big, and who, and what the fuck Bungie and Sony decide to do for their next game.
>>570367868I've noticed this too. It's weird as fuck. Feels like everyone's using wallhacks except me.>>570368861I seriously doubt this is a known practice but seems good
>>570353676>>570354548Wolverine will sell milions, but it's budget is in the same range as Marathons. Marvel actually has a FUCK YOU clause if it doesn't sell 6 million.
>>570368153Yup.>Apex LegendsLol. Garbage game.
>>570355307That would be better than quite a few of the AAA games coming. HURRICANE KATRINA LOOTER GAME.
>>570358898We just had that on Cryo, where the free kits couldn't go. My team made out ok, but you should have heard the prox screaming from bitches who weren't ready for that.
>>570369797Damn, that's depressing, I wonder if Marathon is going to go the route of FBC Firebreak.Low-key, if they made a PvE mode and copy and pasted FBC Firebreak or something like Fallout 76 you could probably have a better chance.If anyone's interested in what FBC Firebreak is about think Left 4 Dead 2 but a tad slower and each area have tasks to prevent/stop something from happening. One ended with the team heading to a giant furance to cool it off before it blew everyone up, another is to remove sentient pink goop/cum from taking over another part of the Oldest House while hordes of enemies came at you. Some were bosses too.Worth looking up some videos.
What is the population breakdown between trios and solos players anyways? 60/40?
>>570369919>I seriously doubt this is a known practice but seems goodIt works, you should be able to hear all kinds of movement, without being close
God the fall out from this game is so fucking funny to me. I've never seen this kind of shit before. Even the people that LIKE Marathon hate the game and hope it dies. Go to the Marathon sub (yes, yes I know) its legitimately hilarious with some of the posts on there.
>>570373579>Even the people that LIKE Marathon hate the game and hope it dies.Please understand, I only want the game to die, if it's starts transforming into something else, different from season one. If it sticks to PvPvE extraction, I want it to keep going.Numbers will be low, because you lose items, if you die, it filters people hard.
>>570368725
Taking me this long to realize this game runs on the greater fool theory. We’re at the stage where the greatest fool is the PVE player thinking Rook will never infil.
Top to bottom design decision to make it trios focused was a mistake in the pivot from whatever orphaned version of the game existed before. At least in stuff like Hunt or Arc nearly everything is feasible to do solo or trios because it was designed that way, and it's good. Marathon seriously expected Pinwheel and bosses like Wardens to be trios only content and had to capitulate by nerfing bots to account for solo players. The game is just a mess of half-baked an unconsidered game design elements.
>>570375083>Arc nearly everything is feasible to do soloAbsolutely not, have you even played Arc? You don't stand a chance against "medium" and big bots solo. 3 or 5 people together are fucking with each bot for 5 minutes to kill it.Now imagine one of them kills you, if he doesn't want to share loot.
>>570375525NTA, but I think having some major not easy to kill threat is good for PvE. Like the rocket drone in survival.
>>570375525I've 100% killed rocketeers, bastions and bombardiers solo; it just takes a shit ton more effort to do. Which is fine, but it's doable. Pre-nerf you could barely fight a commander and his little gank squad of grenadiers solo and lmao if you could get a reliable Warden kill at all.
>>570376027>I've 100% killed rocketeers, bastions and bombardiers soloCan I see you do it with a regular gun? Like you don't have the top end laser and explosives unlocked for crafting. Not a chance in hell, because smaller flying bots will join and fuck you up.
>>570376307NTA, but I almost did that on my second ever run in Arc. But I got too cocky and died.
You need high end gear to have chance, make these "doable", and may still fail, because small bots join.Arc is not balanced for solo, just like Marathon. Don't believe the lies. Without the help of other players, Arc will keep killing you endlessly.
this new barter shop design is so fucking bad i keep wasting my salvage on overpriced items fuck you bungie
>>570371016I honestly loved FBC Firebreak, day one buyer. It's a legitimate shame that Remedy dropped the ball so hard with it, releasing it with far too little content, actually terrible onboarding (lack thereof quite honestly) and not managing to make necessary changes for the game earlier before it was too late. The gamepass day one release was also a mistake since so many people tried it out and thought they finished all the content in 20 minutes and never had the chance to engage with the more interesting systems at work that you get with leveling up and perks. There was a real gem of a game lurking underneath there that will just never get further developed because it released too early. Genuinely also baffling it only launched with 5 maps when it had the whole of Control to pull assets from in the first placeYou can also tell that Remedy is definitely now suffering for it because of how much Control Resonant was shilled across multiple shows during Summer Games Fest, they NEED that to work out for themFor anyone else, if you want a fun little trio co-op game that'll last you at least a solid couple of hours, I definitely recommend picking it up, it's on sale right now for $12, and it has a friend pass so you can straight up have two friends play with you for free>>570373579The only major reason I would want it to fail is so that it further pushes devs away from making extraction shooters but with Arc Raiders having tremendous success that's not happening, so now I just hope that Marathon can evolve into something sustainable because near everything about the game is fantastic, the aesthetics & art design, the atmosphere, the lore, even the shooting feels fantastic. Just personally not hot on the ES aspect but the game gets around a lot of the hang ups I have with ES, outside of wipes, which I think are completely unnecessary for the genre and are bad game design
>>570368586>A very large number of cheaters use it to mostly avoid you altogetherSincerely doubt it.>Online cheating is everywhereAnd that is an issue.
>>570368586That's a nice imagination you've got there
>>570353479first bungo game?next season it will receive a nerf so massive you wont be able to use it anywhere for any reason without getting your shit pushed in by waster at range.simultaneously, they will release a new weapon for the season that takes the place of the d54, and they will do this ad infinitum with each season release because "muh retention, muh fomo".this is a bungie gaas, the meta is the weapon that was released the latest when you look into the meta.
>>570377410>i keep wasting my salvage on overpriced items fuck you bungieWhat items? You should take health packs, weapons, cores, shields and ammo from players. It's free.Get it? You should яape them nonconsensually, haha
Did two cyro runs with my friends and each time we were rushed by guys with gold misriahs and bubble shields within like 3-5 minutes and got stomped. Yeahg, not going back to that map. I would play it if there werent cracked out no-lifers there.
>>570379729>we were rushed by guys with gold misriahsWhat if you back away from the bubbles, and continuously shoot the guys with shotguns? Are they gonna just go through your bullets and still kill you?
>>570379941We didn't have enough time to even react, they just full sprinted us while we were shooting bots.We aren;'t very good.
>>570380262It's ok, you should try again later. Practice a bit on normal maps, you will be able to do it on Cryo.
>Gold shotgun chads use bubble shields to get close and throw stuff>Keep moving away>Shotguns don't work at medium rangeWhat do?
Sometimes there's no way to back off, just gotta make it uncomfortable for everyone to fight.
>>570380262Cryo seriously needs a PvE version with an altered loot pool and maybe no compiler or something. If they gave a fuck they would do a lite-rework to include more shit to do on the map that wouldn’t devalue vaults and compiler in normal cryo, I played the shit out of it from day 1 and got to learn the map layout quicker than most before the spawn rush meta became so dominant. That was great but I imagine must be really miserable just trying to get your bearings straight when half your games end in spawn rush and every other team knows the map well enough to show up to an optimal third party position within 30 seconds, the moment they hear shots in the distance
Game actually gets hilariously easy when you use aimbot. Not sure why I was avoiding this shit for years.
>>570381613>game becomes easy when i cheat
>>570381613Aimbot or controller? Either way, no shit
>>570377460>>570378021Anyone with D2 cheats had that shit working week 1. You know all those fucks who wanted pure PVE mode? They can have that at practically no risk. Cheating really isn't blatant aimbot, or shit that gets clipped and whined about to r/. Practically, it lets my team know who else is using the shit so we know to team up or agree to go different ways, rather than just get into a stupid cheat vs cheat fight.
>>570381613>Game actually gets hilariously easy when you use aimbotlet us see your 1v3, Mr Easy
Mr Easy gets real quiet, no receipts to back up his claim...
>>570381789And so you and your ilk ruin the game, and ruin the game for everyone who is not using cheats.Frankly, i would brutalise you and your ilk in such ways that until the last femtofsecond until you die you would not cheat ever again in anything, be aflicted by the worst case of PTSD a human has suffered or will suffer and would be haunted by nightmares every time you sleep. Fucks like you ruined this world, because this behaviour of yours - its not expressed in just videogames. Be glad that you can hide behind fake names and anonymity.
Friendly reminders, the meta is to shoot them in the back. Challenging someone head on is pointless. This is not a glory game, it's a rape game
>>570381613Why do you want a game to be easy?
>I wake upI think about ambushing people on Marathon>I eatI think about shooting people in the back on Marathon>I play MarathonI look for ways to shoot people in the back>I'm going to sleepI think about how I'm going to ambush people on Marathon when I wake up
>>570383114This but thinking about a woman I like. Y'all need some help.
>>570379941For RIGHT NOW, they don't have the explosives for an extended plan b. They're counting on overwhelming teams with a fast rush. They may play peekaboo, they may rush a different direction. They may just try to deny you an important choke point or try to make sure you're the one who eats third party.>>570381613The more important cheat is intel.>>570382592I don't use the shit, but I also can't control what my teammates run, and I can see their screens at all times. >>570382187Why the fuck would he hand you a video that you would immediately use to get him banned? In any case, this game isn't as much about aim and twitch mechanics in the first place.
Does anyone know why this game focused on trios? I felt like this game is always better solo...
>S2 is shaping up to kill the game Bravo Bungo
>>570383680>Does anyone know why this game focused on trios?Because of Zeigler. Felt that trios helped retention, and were good for apex.
>>570383680Something-something-Valorant-something-something-Apex-something-something-MOBA-battle royale-something.
>>570384318We're back to S1 numbers and it hasn't even been a week. Let that sink in.
>>570384402>Felt that trios helped retentionlol
>>570384453Sorry, I meant it hasn't even been 2 weeks.
>>570384402>>570384436Because like, I don't know if it's because I'm a boomer, but playing trios in Marathon it's hard to keep track of everyone in a chaotic team fight. And with how elaborate these missions are, feels like everyone's stretched too thin. Don't see the vision.Some character kits work better as a team, but it doesn't mean playing as a team with randos is fun. And most people won't be playing as a three stack.
Just got killed because I ran down a guy and he happened to run exactly to where another player was turtling and in the chaos I didn't notice him
imagine using the one chance to revive what started Halo and making it into Apex Legends Tarkov Editionthe more i think about it the more i'm glad this shit is collapsing. should've made a real story with pve then have pvp as a side mode like actual marathon
I think pivoting to solo style content would be better.
if you could buy gear in this game for money would you? i would. i lose too much to play as much as i'd like. like i literally just have freekitting as my only option because of the cost and availability of meds and ammo.
>>570389091You already can.
>Queue survival Perimeter>Spawn near North RelayEvery god damn time.
>>570387874They are idiots chasing retard trends.They deserve misery.
Actually now that I think about it, no real duos queue is what's really killing this game. Think of how many friend groups would on average only have a couple of guys interested in the game and they can only play on one map in a proper queue or risk getting raped and gaped by trios.
I loaded in with nothing but the blue magnum and a stack of heavy ammo. pure luck i caught another vandal off guard.
Any marathon lore masters here? Why is there even a goldrush for the Marathon Colony Ship anyway? Isn't all the tech on the Marathon at this point 300-400 years old? I just don't understand what these Corporations even want with 400 year old tech at this point. I can understand wanting insight to the more alien aspects like the anomaly and the disease but just regular nuts and bolts and shit? Why?
>>570390883Ayys and ayy techIt's why corporations are sending in and funding stalkers in STALKER despite the military cordon
>>570390883There was a crew operating on board the Marathon while it was traveling, and advancements were made at the colony. Research and advancement based on alien conditions, and actual alien technology, it's like a 300 year branch of alt-history to dig into, maybe they developed some things better than was made back home? And they also had a huge head start on researching alien stuff after the first assault, as well as researching whatever the fuck the anomaly is.That's why there's a Warden in Upper Complex, the UESC is trying to utilize the existing infrastructure the colonists built for study the anomaly instead of having to start from scratch.
>>570390883What>>570391186Said but a little more into it.Marathon was a joint cooperation between multiple corporations and government organizations that went dark 400 years ago and at the tail end of that Drundal, an AI sent a SOS to Earth. By then it took them 100 years to send UESC ship out to see what was going on and by then everyone was gone. Then 25 to 30 years later after those 100 we advanced so far in tech that we basically piggybacked on the UESC ship and are now sending in operatives to figure out what happened to their investments, the colony and colony people (pending on coperation) and now, especially, grabbing all the Alien Tech and all the info on the Anomaly.Head of the UESC basically, overall is the only good guy, sorta because he saw everything and was like JFC tiime to shutdown everything.Now Cooperations gonna Corpo ala Cyberpunk and are dipping their fingers in pies they should NEVER fucking dip into (Cosmic, Reality Warping, Cthulu-tier Horrors)
>>570390883Alien tech and tech related to Anomaly. Because of temporal distortion, Anomaly allows for some serious advancements in computation, physics, engineering. Issue is that its unstable/poorly understood from physics standpoint.
>>570391541So this isn't very reliable unless you're super into the lore.At the end of Infinity when all realities basically fractures (think Loki TV Show and all those timelines if you're familiar with that movie or Marvel Movies) Durandal sent an SOS, that SOS was sent to all possible realities under the Marathon branch of realities/timelinesWe are playing on one branch of a timeline of a reality that Durandal seems to have broken apart and a piece, the one we're talking to now was left behind. During those 400 years, the character we played as along with Durdanl basically went Doom on the Pphor thanks to Durandal trying to escape the Marathon.Now Marathon is basically a fucking Ark of the Covenant of tech from that alien race and whatever the colonists found.Not to mention at the 400 year end date the colonists landed and the hundred years after UESC arrived the Phor came back, twice, the first time we fought them off and the second time we didn't by then almost all of the humans were dead or going insane while the rest were abducted into slavery by the alien race.There is so much fucking butter on that lobster the cooperation are salivating.
>>570384402>trios>help retentionjeeeeejzeeeeeeeg!!!!!!!
>>570367895Not going to spend 6 hrs a day farming the boring ass PvE mode just because Bungie couldn't balance the loot pool. Got my basic kills in to juice my cradle at the start, grab Complex when I see the key in PvP, otherwise fuck you faggot.
>Delete trios entirely>make the maps 50% bigger>add a firing range>only allow duo teams and solos>keep rooks>allow duos and solos into the same lobby but only have a maximum of two duos teams and the rest is solos and rook spawns>re-balance Cryo as necessaryThere I saved your game.
How the fuck are people getting into other spawns' 2nd room so early on Cryo currently? I just played a match and before we even got into our second room, there was a team posted up on the second floor of it waiting to fry us. Did they somehow fucking revert the map to before they added locks on the vents? I'm genuinely confused how they are in there so early. It was literally within <2 or 3 minutes
>>570389183you mean buying accounts or carry services don't you? i don't want to get banned, and i play this game with a load of my irls who would josh me to no end for dying with a loaded bought account in their presence. i just mean that when i'm out of credits and my vault is empty i actually wish the game had a shitty mobile game offer screen with a $0.99 purple cryo sponsored kit that would let me get back in with a chance like i just lost. i'm honestly not even that bad i think, but i get the dumbest teammates and i can't always IGL them and win fights. when i get good teammates i frequently have successful runs accompanying them where i know what's going on and participate in decisionmaking and playmaking.
>>570392763Anons are theorizing that people are using cheats to pinpoint all the security tags and batteries so they can spawn rush but I also wouldn't put it past Bungo at all to accidentally have reverted Cryo somehow.
>>570390883Past a certain point technology starts to stagnate as desires for convenience are met and shortages hamper the resources to truly innovate. Just as both happened IRL and we have gone from one ponzi scheme to another ie nfts to metaverse to ai so too did the sol system in Marathon. The ship was an attempt at a first gen colony ship out of partial desperation and so they went all in on cobbling together the most expensive stuff they could from every major corpo. Now they want their shit back because in some cases that tech no longer works back in Sol. Its warhammer archeotech rules.
>>570381789Fuck you, faggot, all you cheating cocksuckers think you're in the right. You're scum.
>>570392694What does Tarkov do with lobbies? I was curious. Never played it. Is Tarkov mixed lobbies of groups and solos? I never understand why even separating solos was a thing. I think in Tarkov it might be easier to die though so maybe thats why.
>>570389943imagine how many friend groups on average are not playing marathon because the alternatives are either more fun in design, more content rich, or even free
To add to all of the above i'm pretty sure season 2's new story updates imply the Pfor crippled the Marathon intentionally so it cannot leave orbit and the UESC at the time covered it up to stop panic among the colonists but that valuable tech cannot be remote piloted to come back via some 3d printed clankers turning it around and setting it off again. Its a pharoahs tomb full of treasures and the dead and its never going anywhere again. Durandal calls it a "skeleton" for a reason. Its vitals were ruined centuries ago.
>>570392247before the UESC arrived*So for argument sake, for anyone into lore but dont want to invest the time. These are generalizations and not exact year and time date. The years I'm about to post are NOT the actual year, canonically, story and lore wise but a frame of how long every took and lasted>From Earth to Tau Ceti too 400 Years, give or take a few>>During that period the first three games take place and at the end but before the Colonist woke up Durandal sent a message back to Earth as a SOS/Warning of "You need to get to Tau Ceti pronto">At that 400 year end date the colonists start to wake-up and disembark and land on Tau Ceti (during this time they're also finding remains from the blood bath the character from the first three games left Doom style)>In a period of 50ish years, the first 30ish years the Pfhor come back {after first Main Character and Durandal fucking destroying them) they lose again but in that process all the remaining Battledroids (we played as one too in the first three games) basically are killed or weakened.>Five Years later after that 30 year time the Pfhor come back again and create hell on Earth as it were on Tau Ceti killing the last of the Battledroids, and enslaving large portions of the humans not only on Tau Ceti but who are still on Cryo SleepBy this point and time the Colony and Colonists are already collapsing in varying degrees because at this point they've already woken up the Anomaly and are already experincing the first iterations of their hell as the Anomaly works out how to kill the rest of the humans on Tau CetiBy the 50 year date (Year 450) most of the humans on Tau Ceti are dead, have gone insane and created a cult or possibly Joy, one of the last remaining AI on Tau Ceti, before shutting down may have transferred colonists brains back onto Marathon in a capacity.Year 500 UESC Arrive with no one left aliveYear 525 to 530 Cooperations arrive beaming down Runners to see what the fuck happened.
>>570393049Tarkov is that it's mixed with everyone at least before, its horrible system and im glad it's not here.
>>570393049Tarkov has mixed lobbies but the maps are usually big enough to accommodate that and also have a limit on full 5 man stacks based on the map.
>>570392935I experienced this already on a match in Night Marsh.A player on my team knew exactly where everything was and pinged it on map for the other player in my Trios to help him finish his quest. He pinged locations before any of us got a visual, in-game promot telling where a terminal to interact with was; as well as items were on bodies both Runner and UESC
>>570392935My first cryo run yesterday was invaded at the 90s mark through a clearance 2 door, invading into Revival from Preservation. I actually heard their footsteps while I was sweeping for tags in the first room. I've been trying to think of what sort of luck/run that would look like to be able to invade that fast, and it seems like a stretch that they weren't cheating in some way, knowing where tags/monitors are is the lowest detection method, as just cheating security clearance would probably be something that would get detected fast.They definitely weren't aim botting or walling, the fight had them lose track of me, not aim perfectly, etc - but the speed they got there is just way too fuckin fast.
>>570393319That's one of the biggest flaws I feel Marathon has.Maps aren't big enough, the bouts of calm are way to short between engagments with other players personally.
>>570393247Sounds like the Phor are big meanies. Are they ready to be dunked again by bio-synthetic transhuman clankers this time?
How to fix the game.>Take all the good things Hunt Showdown has>Remove all the bad thingsThere we have it, best ExSho ever.
>>570393561I get that. But on the flip side, too large of a map wouldn't be interesting would it? I think encounters with players being common isn't necessarily bad. Like should the expectation be that you rarely see another player in maps? or that you uncommonly see another player in maps?
>>570393706Lowkey Bungie needs to fucking step-up the AI controlled enemies both mechanically and visually.What we're experiencing right now is more akin to Pathways Into Darkness, the prequel to the first three Marathon Games. Pyramid in South America with everyone going insane because the Anomaly (Wrkncacnter) was waking up. As we progressed through the pyramid we started finding zombies and reality bending crazy shit.We're basically at the start, we need human colonist zombies and the start of Pfhor aliens appearing by now
>>570392763idk it happened to me too, done with that map such bullshit.
>>570393993I don't believe that any AI in a shooting game will EVER be difficult enough in any meaningful way. The UESC already do kind of tactical things like jump and duck your aim. Or gundam slide away from you etc. However, the most dangerous enemy in this game is another player. I don't think any AI controlled enemy will ever present the same kind of threat that a player would. People have said "Oh they just need to make the UESC harder" but I don't think that is possible in a way that wouldn't just make them aim bots or omniscient beings who always know where you are and move towards you like heat seeking missiles.
>>570393993No Bungie does not need to make the AI enemies more fucking irritating and troublesome. They exist to attract players, that is the purpose of AI enemies in extraction shooters, they do not need to be handfuls all on their own and the fact that they can deplete your shields in 3 shots currently while backwards sprinting across the map is just more fuel on the fire of Marathon's totally dissolute identity.
>>570393993The closest the AI came to being "smart" was when I ambushed a guy trying to kill robots and they actually flanked up on him and downed him lmao. I was kind of surprised it happened.
>>570384453 G R I M
>>570394320>muh hardcore pvpniggers when the ai enemy puts up a modicum of a fight
>>570393406cryo tags and terminals have been buffed. either that or pure luck. i had one run where we had a terminal in the spawn room, and 2 in the subsequent room. that's instant lvl 2 without tags.
>>570395639wow bungie is actually retarded.
>>570394320>, that is the purpose of AI enemies in extraction shooters,the extraction shooter part of this game is the reason why it's failing
>>570395697consistently hitting lvl 3 before the 15-16min mark also even without the lucky terminals. end of last season i was struggling to hit 2 1/2 clearance by then. and i'm not even one of the "sweats".
>>570395639>cryo tags and terminals have been buffeddid it 4 times yesterday and got 2 monitors once, while anecdotal, I don't think that's true. Now, wild luck does happen, I have seen 3 monitors in the first wing in season 1, but again - 90s. No exaggeration, timer was 28:30 when they started shooting at us, total run time was 3:05 because the fight got messy between an assassin ult and us being split when they came in. Preservation can't even have monitors in the first room. The only reasonable explanation would be they smoked and bypassed bots in the first room, bypassed bots in the second and went straight to the southern floor 2 room in Preservation, found 3 monitors in the same fucking room, and sprinted through the door straight at us. Just the time it would take to run from Preservation spawn down the SC2 path is probably like 70 seconds sprinting the whole way.
>>570394073Yeah, was my first run of the season on it and it legit completely deflated any excitement I had to run it again. Me and my duo just went straight back to going into Perimeter with a blue battle pistol + blue shield and wiping the entire map instead which is what we've been doing all evening instead. Lost only 4 matches in the span of a 4 hours session. Can't wait until Sunday when duos is on Outpost, we're gonna get fucking rich.
>>570204815>expect like 50k in s2>its 30k and already down to 15k in just 1 week including free weekendim so sorry lads but I quit the game cuz its gay and therefore it deserves it.
>>570397865Based-1 player
Is the profit opportunity on perineter the most worthless activity in the entire game? Like even more worthless than sponsored rooking?
>>570395402>PvE piggy acting like he isn't already squealing about the PvP side, let alone being chunked by a skating psion-bot.You tourists hate the genre and should just leave
>>570398109the UESC supplies give you and your crew a few blue and green mats if you exfil with it, and it's technically possible to get gold salvage from it, if that hasn't been reverted from season 1. Pain in the ass how many grenadiers it spawns though, I don't even do Intercept if the last step is at Hauler and I'm by myself, it's actually a fuckin death trap.
>>570394260Halo CE had very good and balanced AI.
>>570398050i was kinda kidding but on the other hand i got farmed by goo gun triple gold chuds in cryo in s1 and the game has stupid aim assist and noob mechanics and they didnt do any balancing for months and ranked was unplayable due to cheating chinks soo.. fuck it.
So the battle pistol is the best gun right now?
>>570398445Yep. Nothing beats it.
>>570398109Sponsored rooking is great, you get to make another person waste 25 minutes of their time
>>570398445>>570398537>best gun>every cryo stack is still on bully mizzyok chud
>the kkv's tradeoff is it has a sub-20m damage range for having pretty solid RPM>battle pistol with the right mods can out-compete the lower end of precision rifles like the repeater and some ARs
this game would have been better if it leaned more into a grounded angle where mechanical skill actually matters and with less bullshit like invisiblity and wallhacksaim assist was a mistakehoming bullets were a mistakeslow movement + low ttk was a mistakethermals were a mistakegiga bullet sponge AI was a mistakethe trash ass performance is unacceptable
>>570393014LOL. I don't think I'm right. I don't even cheat.>>570393406Teams like that dont' have everyone cheat. It's, more like 2 people with cheats, 8 people without all trying to load at the same time. trying to end up on the same instance. Just knowing which direction a rush is coming, or if a rush is NOT coming is pure gold on cryo. And that's not counting if you have someone on another team to help negotiate a 6 or 9 man rape squad..
>>570399175agree, it being a hero shooter clearing trying to bank off of apex legends didn't help at all
>>570393561That's deliberate. They want maximum contact, maximum hositlity. No slinking off to an edge extract.>>570394073You fucks were warned, start of cryo would be maximum turborape.
>>570399539>I don't cheat>I just benefit from playing with cheatersYou understand how absurdly powerful information is, but continue to pretend it's okay to have said information via cheating (even if you're not personally installing them) for some reason. You're exactly as shitty as the 6/9 man team coordinating via discord - they may not be installing cheats either.
If the weapons and looting stayed the same but we had no manual healing and health/shield recharging like halo 3 with the same TTK the game would be more fun for 90% of players
>>570399601yeah making it a mandatory 3stack hero shooter backfired. so did the emphasis on the art and extravagant lore.it was creative and cool but gameplay and QoL are more important
I kind of wish the healing system was more like Tarkov and ABI where it was like a paper doll system with each limb/part having its own HP pool. Shields can still be shields but they can full break after taking enough damage like in Arc.
>>570395402don't pretend like the ai is entertaining to engage with. It's purely annoying.Faggot raiders is only popular because it's entertaining to shoot the funny robots.
>>570400006thats just very dumb
>>570400669Obviously you'd have to slow the pace of the game down a lot and probably delete shell abilities.
>>570400787so literally what i said 2 posts earlier
whats the meta for putting stats in your cradle?
>>570400335I enjoyed the sponsor night marsh warden runs for the pve, the rewards were absolutely the fuck out of tune for what that mode was (the devs clearly thought there's be a billion rooks every game) but it was a reasonable challenge to split up, fight bots alone, hit towers, get up to complex, and do the warden fight with sub-par scavenged weapons and white shields. The limited time and shit gear was good even without the pvp aspect.Having more things pushing you time and resource wise like that would be a good angle for pve, where you have a player+luck determined level of difficulty, where you can choose to scavenge tower caches/UESC boxes, or just scavenge for normal marsh salvage, or push and go all or nothing to do the warden and get better rewards.
>>570401119It's actually insane they hedged the loot being that good against the map being awash with Rooks planning to rape the team but then they broke Rook queuing and everyone just avoided queuing on the map as Rook once they realized no other Rooks were there.
>Rush team in preservation>Before we can loot another team rushes in>Finish them and another team is running up>Again kill them pretty quickly, the last team on the map rushes in before the revive timer is even up on our dead team mate and wipes us>Still 20 minutes left on the clockCryo reveals itself to be a genuinely dogshit map the more competent teams there are in a lobby.
>>570399810>they may not be installing cheats either.Of course they're not installing cheats. Why risk it when you can have only a sacrificial account to take the chance?>>570401248It's pretty clear they don't play their own game.
>>570401248And then nerfed loot based on that mode as the mode was ending, this season is fun and has a lot of good, but boy does it have a lot of dumb shit too.
>>570398184fuck off, retard. Mad that you can't just full sprint from teamfight to teamfight ignoring literally everything else in the game and yet I'm the tourist huh. Go back to warzone or whatever's the current fotm BR these days
Since we're talking about lore, any reason why we're sending humans/runners to Tau Ceti despite knowledge that the UESC robots are competent enough to completely run the show? If that's the case why not just send robots to contest, why are humans needed?Like many things I'm sure there's some lore answer but it's not immediately understood artistically.
>have to fight against 3 stack sweats in cryo>while having 2 absolutely clueless people in my teamAt least in the previous season my teammates actually knew the goddamn map, now there is truly no hope for crew fill
>>570401776UESC bots are pretty limited, they have UESC runners too, Orion is definitely not a bot. Runners/human consciousnesses are able to interpret and make decisions autonomously, and are also full independent of their company handlers - this means the companies doing shady shit have limited liability, the runner is just doing their own shit Mr. UESC, I didn't tell them to blow up your comms relay. Whereas if it was a robot, if it gets disabled and the UESC looks at it, there's hard evidence linking Traxus to direct government sabotage
>>570401776Few reasons.First reason is that the UESC are in the pocket of almost all the big cooperation we're sponsored by, especially Traxus.Secondly, we, the Runners, I believe aren't in System, we're teleporting through digital wavelengths all the way from Earth and or a giant ship in the next system over.
>>570401727You're a dumbfuck who doesn't understand shit about the genre. PvEbab that should go back to Destiny instead of trying to ruin a game already fighting for its identity because you faggots can't handle any sort of conflict.
Peak crew fill experience, absolute peak>go my own way in cryo, cause my teammates are lobomized>manage to down 2 guys in a team and almost kill the third>in another match, I once again get 2 downs and almost kill the third and my teammates are nowhere to be seenSeriously, it's like I NEED to go on discord lfg to get people with a working frontal lobe
How egregious is controller assisted auto aim in this game? I play on PC with keyboard and mouse and it feels like in some encounters I am just beamed down from tough angles. Not saying those players are bad but I want some insight so I know to be a bit safer from which corners I take etc.
>since we are talking about the lorewe aren't
>>570402930busted so npc casual chuds keep playing
>>570402930Basically aimbot, but if you're good at fps you can get almost the same level of aim as them, since aiming is easy in this game
>>570403217not true. but what is true is that the generous projectile size and homing bullets drastically lower aim diff. its just that rollers get aimbot on top.
railguns fucking suck, they need another buff.
>>570402930The thing controllers get that mouse doesn't is tracking assistance, where your crosshair will follow the target slightly - it makes them better at tracking movement that MnK players might not, like a thief grappling a weird direction. Both MnK and Controller get bullet magnetism (the aim assist stat on your weapon) - it's a cone with size determined by the degrees mentioned on the stat where if the target is within the cone, the shot will hit - so essentially shooting giant bullets without the downsize of getting caught on shit. Some scopes have a circle that shows the aim assist cone.
i feel bad for the bungie devs lowkey, having 15k concurrent on a friday for something they put this much work in must feel demoralizing.
>>570401506It may not look like it, but that's peak marathon as envisioned by the Zeigler. That literally is how the map is designed.
>>570403669Most of them are wokefags who deserve it
>>570403669>they put this much work in must feel demoralizing.Anon there's barely anything here to begin with.They spent 5+ years on this and it's barely anything.
I wish there was a quicker way to strip attachments off guns in your vault.>>570403537Yeah if I'm having to hold down a button to charge a shot that shot had better DELETE
>>570403669>>570403804They worked very hard for this outcome. Wasting millions of fucking dollars on stupid shit that wasn't games the core fanbase wanted. Deciding to fight online hate by trying to shut down 4chan.
>>570403904>Deciding to fight online hate by trying to shut down 4chan.what
even when something like helldivers is at its low point people still share all the stupid fun shit that happens because the gameplay can still be engagingthis however just sucks. all real discussion is just balance around guns and your generic pvp grievances you see anywhere from your average competitive hero shooter. any feedback about this is just met with "you just want a different game" like dude they made this game TOO derivative.
>>570404450they made some horrible design decisions and the game lacks content and QoL for an AAA project
Wish they would copy some good game design.
>Doing sponsored perimiter because i'm a beginner and want to quickly farm the basics to unlock the early stuff on the factions>Mfw i just had to res these two dumbasses who started the event in the hauler, AFTER taking out the whole lot solo because luckily and unknown to them i found a shield and some green patches and a blue shield repair and THEN they run off to the base nearby to try and take out a ghost commander and a full reinforced base>I res them a total of ELEVEN times>Eventually both ragequit>Get to exfil totally starved of heals, no life, no shield after being dumbass daycare>5 seconds to go>Melted by a rook who doesnt even take all the blue faction shit i found that was probably a level in the cradleI sighed a deep sigh and that was enough Marathon for the evening. I've been mostly solo and its staggering how stupid AND selfish trio fil players are. They let you do all the fighting then rush in to take all the items.
Is there a way on PS5 to know how many more commanders you need to kill for the trophy? aside from vip and lvl.100 its all i got left and i swear ps4 games near the end of its lifespan started giving you the ability to see how far you were on these cumulative ones. Is there no ingame tracker for that one in the codex or something?
>>570405912>ps5no, fuck off
>>570405567I just play the sponsor mode alone to get resources. Nothing's hard enough that doing it alone is hard, and even seeing a Rook is so rare that it's hard to get mad about dying to one. Sometimes they wanna chat and we can be buds. I don't think I could handle playing Fill, this game requires a lot of you, and asks for investment just to load in, gambling that on random dipshits just doesn't seem like it'll ever lead to a satisfying conclusion. Not even trying to doompost but I guess I kinda did, it's rough if you don't have two buddies to play with
what do you mean there are trapped bags, the fuck??? Bungie making the hardest game ever over here
>>570406226Sad thing is literally nobody falls for them or claymores anymore except total noobs, no offense.
>>570406335You know what else isn't for noobs? That Cryo Map, Jesus how do people do it? I just got lucky and got carried but I hate feeling so worthless. I think I'm gonna need another 50 hours of gameplay to even begin to handle this map.
>>570406226Trap bags have tells that generally will lead you to not get fucked by them once you figure them out.>No body around, no blood - probably a trap bag>White on Thief Visor - either a trap bag or already emptied out of any value>When you look at it, the context highlight will show "Search Container">If you start opening it, it will say "S3arching", take longer than normal to open, and also make a different noise, so you can stop holding the interact button and be fine on reactionThey can be shot and explode for a shitload of damage though, so they can be an active trap even if nobody's gonna fall for it and actually open the thing (generally, obviously new people will get hit once)
Any solo players here ever try loading into solo(TRIOS)? Where its you as a solo against a lobby of trios? Any benefit to doing this?
>>570407045You could be a vulture and pick the battlefield after the other teams kill each other
>>570407045The one advantage I've seen people say is that if you're running solo in a trio match, since most/everyone else will be in a trio you're more likely to see/hear them coming.So like compared to trio vs trio it's easier to hide.
Imagine if Rooks could spawn with a silenced battle pistol
>Parasitism 3/5Fuck me why is this giving me so much troubleFirst I couldn't figure out what to do with the sample once I got it, then kept getting ganked and now the robots are killing me.Fuck it, I'll try tomorrow.
>>570407045It's fun as a sentinel, you can set up kill zones and wipe trios
Any professional knifers here? I am playing the sentinel shell and I have maxed melee in the cradle. I usually have a melee mod which brings me to 100 melee strength I think? There is no way to go above 100 right? Also, when engaged in melee combat, should I be trying to do ONLY heavy attacks? I got into a fight with another white shielder and I melee'd him down with two heavies. However, he shot me a bit and STILL almost killed me. Would it have been better to go for 2 light attacks and a heavy?
>>5704109902L1H is the meta because it out DPSes the heavy spam. Mods like edgerunner or crouching tiger etc that boost attack damage are pretty nice, too. Not sure about Sentinel because he's weak but goo trap into a stabbing is probably his most viable set-up so baiting people in with like a trap bag could be a strategic twist.
the sentinel FEARS the destroyer
>>570411603Hmm I see. Thanks. I am pretty sure sentinel has a mean base melee damage like destroyer too. I have been going only for heavies unfortunately. What about the punch? When you have a gun out and melee, your shell does a punch instead. Is it ass?
>>570408110I did all of Parasitism ones today. I also kept getting ganked and shot. Every match is a gamble - so keep trying. I had Parasitism 5/5 where neither Assassin nor Triage shot me - due to exfil point bug we had to wait for 10 minutes for final exfil - all three of us exfiled.
>>570410990Tox Injector implant works miracles.
>>570404193The stop online hate funds went to the SPLC, which tried to shutdown 4chan by attacking it's payment processing and hosting. It's why buying passes coudln't be done except by bitcoin for a while.
>down another 1k despite the weekend cryo buffhow the fuck is this supposed to last another 3 months? 2 weeks in and its already critical dire levels of players.
