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Yuri thread

>>570205631
Um, Yuri, when your brother said he wanted help with training, he didn't mean this kind of training.

Imagine if season 3 trailer is ai too

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Koudelka remake will be SNK's answer to Resident Evil.

>>570211662
I don't get how the ip rights went to the director when it's snk who funded the studio and funded the game. He even left Sacnoth before its closure and retained the ip somehow.

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>>570205631
>>570205994

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My Kof16 team is ready

>>570212113
The answer is simple.

Oda wrote the contract.

>>570229691
Kek

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>>570211662
>Koudelka remake will be VS studio's answer to Resident Evil.
Fixed.

>>570235780
Are you retarded?

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>>570235918
I expect snk to have more than ONE GAME. So, yes.

Something I discovered with Metal Slug 3: given how you can have Allen O'Neill assist near the end of the game if you don't take his machine gun and how he isn't in Metal Slug 6, which chronologically takes place after MS3, would that mean that Allen assisting you was canon to explain his absence in MS6?

>>570212113
ask this about shantae and capcom

>>570239551
>muh capcom retard
And no faggot Capcom just published it, they didn't create WayForward.

>>570240383
>muh capcom retard
yeah rich comment coming from the general that loves to blame capcom for snk's failures

meanwhile none of you can figure out anything about rage of the dragons even when that's been spelled out too

google is your friend and can answer your stupid retarded question for you since you seem so puzzled

>literally mentions capcom out of nowhere
>accuses others of bringing up capcom
what a fucking retard.

>>570211662
*Athena remake
Koudelka will return only after Breath of Fire remake series (lmao never ever)

>was a part of the topic
>out of nowhere
meanwhile at snk
>uhhh look at this disgusting capslop thing, i cant believe people like it more than snk, max is a capdrone through and through blabhlabhlah capdrones will never learn
rich attempt at firing back

dont worry i'll be back for more later tonight
what's another day

>>570244738
You can't make a horror athena game, then make her act like a funny bitch in kof. Choose one.

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What a slut

>>570246768
You can not only do both, but you can also exploit it to make more fun.
>Oh, nyo, I wouldn't be able to take it seriously.
Horror isn't a serious genre in the first place.

>>570249248
>Horror isn't a serious genre in the first place.
Only to you. You answered yourself for why it wouldn't work.

an easy leeway is just making a third genration athena like the first greek goddess one, but it would become redundant.

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>>570249642
To anyone with a brain.
That's why it is at it's best when it recognizes itself as such.
The best horror film is Army of Darkness
The best horror game is Resident Evil 4

>>570250770
How is this compareble to Resident Evil 4? did it break the 4th wall? did Leon have a dance? he joked sarcastically a few times, but it never tore the horror mode. What you're describing is as if Leon became a permanent SF guest character and acting happy all the times. But Capcom will never do that because they're smart.

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>>570250770
>horror game
>Resident Evil 4
That's incorrect.
Resident Evil 1-3 were horror games with action elements.
Resident Evil 4-onwards are action games with horror elements.

>>570252572
>What you're describing is as if Leon became a permanent SF guest character and acting happy all the times. But Capcom will never do that because they're smart.
Fuck you, Project X Zone was KINEMA.
People ask for Darkstalkers return, but what they should be really asking for is for Leon to star in one.

>>570253038
All of them are horror.
What you wanted to say is that Resident Evil prioritized trying to be a thriller over the action at first.

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You guys weren't kidding. SNK really does live rent-free in the head of the ESL that sits in this general shitposting, saying the same phrases and posting the same pics 24/7. Clicked on some random Persona thread on /v/, and somehow encountered him there of all places. Has there been any explanation for why he thinks about them so much, even in topics about things that have nothing to do with them? I'm guessing it involves some kind of mental-illness.

>>570253038
I always though of a thriller type of game with some horror elements and Blue Mary as a protagonist since she already reminds of Leon, in south town as a setting with a bit more emphasis on stealth and traversing, and you can even add some other fatal fury characters like Geese.

>>570257356
Jenet's face in CoTW is so fucking ugly that even fans from other franchises have noticed it. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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>>570257356
He got humilliated several times to the point he wants the company dead along with this general and "BTFO" every fan of their games who visits these threads.

>>570257356
Because you keep giving him attention retard.

The Tupac thing in Stranger than Heaven reminds me Ronaldo in COTW, normies took notice of it and thought it's insane at the end none of them are buying it because of him and everyone knows it's fucking stupid.

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>>570247332
Fuck off, Chinger.

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HERMANOS

>>570261871
No problem with Tupac, but the inclusion is moronic. Even Tupac would'n't have wanted to be in it.

>>570258969
>fans from other frachises
it's literally that retard from here can you not read

>>570263637
What the fuck is going on with her crotch

>>570265089
A hidden taco

>>570264120
Of course he can't, he's ESL

>>570257356
>Check thread
>Usual /neog/ nonsense that ends on a nonsequitur because nobody else in the thread gives a shit about someone trying to make it about something it isn't

This isn't even an SNK is irrelevant situation, it's proof this faggot is actively detrimental to the site and mods not doing shit about purging schizos is part of why the internet is so fucking unusable nowadays. You drop these fuckers out of their comfort zone and they're immediately demolished because they need safe spaces to act like faggots

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Photorealisticbros...

>>570259817
>tfw I like Sylvie, but it became hard to bring her up at some point because of a schizofaggot
>>570263637
Super Sidekicks, but with SNK characters and life sim career mode would go so fucking hard.

>>570268376
Thankfully, Sega and Nintendo already hired all the self-taught Unreal Engine experts like their fans wanted, so SNK will be spared from the uglyrealistic aesthetics.

>i want everything to be anime
No.

>>570269880
it's already anime

>>570269880
You is anime

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When are we getting Terry and Mai in CrossWorlds?

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>>570205468
She sure has come a long way

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>>570269880
Not what I said.

>>570271646
Soon

>>570257356
It's the reason this site is unusable nowadays. This cancer isn't just a /neog/ thing, you can't discuss vidya anymore on /v/, and /vg/ is just trannies spamming gacha threads.

>>570278992
Is that you ATRyoSakazaki

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Seems like it will be an anime series then, I was expecting a live action or CG like the Chinese KOF one.
That's cool.

>>570288738
Man that's the only good news I've heard from SNK in a while. Bet this won't go anywhere because SNK always announce shit that get quietly dropped. But if they know any better this is going to be a much better way to get people interested in their properties than the games they've been putting out. Personally would rather them make a Fatal Fury 3 adaption instead, but any excuse to remake Geese and Terry's backstory instead of telling new stories, I guess...

>>570289202
From what they said it will be on youtube so that's nice. Curious about the Geese and the AoF one they will do as well.
That weird KOF project pretty much disappeared when the other CEO got fired I guess.

>>570290510
KOF in general has been pushed to the side completely, it's pretty obvious Oda simply really wants to make Fatal Fury a thing again no matter what. The CEOs and other devs don't seem to care since the financial backing allows them to get away with this even if CotW was such a flop. It's a shame, if the game was at least passably interesting at all this would lead people into actually being interested in trying it out, but instead it's kind of a leech that's sucking away at SNK until it pops

Personally if they just don't want to make the older games accessible or have people understand what their stories are about, this is a better option so they can use the games to focus on "New SNK" whatever that's supposed to mean at this point. Other devs are really floundering right now too, they can barely get new games out anymore. Even Nintendo's stuck with fucking remakes of legacy titles. Lower scope titles would be good if it meant we got more of them and weren't waiting years for any news

>>570289202
>>570288738
They are teaming up with Kirkman, is going to be an Invincible-tier cartoon, not an anime.

>>570291746
Unfortunately lots of official media outlets are starting to call action cartoons "anime" to get around the sigma that Western cartoons have been buried under a ditch of "slop made for kids not to be taken seriously" thanks to years of dogshit media. So now fuck ass production studios want to sell shows as "anime" to trick people into watching their shows since the opposite of a slop ass Cal-Arts toon is "anime" because "anime isn't just for kids"

>>570291659
I don't think Oda has this kind of power, he has some weird silver tongue though. (Got Sony/Atlus to help them release XIV, got Nintendo to buy a shit ton of SNK Heroines copies, got Epic to get Samsho, then got Google to get it as well, got the sheik after that Saudi tourney and now Harada.
Jokes aside, I think their plan seems pretty much bring back all their old franchises that were popular in the past, then make a KOF. They did the right thing with the Samsho reboot but fucked up with the online when they couldn't, Fatal Fury was turning up to do well but they fucked up with the guests.
No idea when the SWC finals will happen but they said when the last one finished that they have stuff to show there, so all they have to do is not fuck up basic stuff again.

>>570293452
>got Nintendo to buy a shit ton of SNK Heroines copies
Where did you hear this nonsense?

>>570295820
https://www.siliconera.com/nisa-talks-deal-nintendo-snk-heroines-tag-team-frenzy/

>>570269880
>>570270471
>>570270028
ANIME JA NAI

>>570289202
>Obari makes a Fatal Fury 3/Real Bout 1 movie after all these years

>>570297251
OK but that was between NIS and Nintendo not Oda. Nintendo bought copies so they can distribute them.

>>570297576
HONTOU NO KOTO SA

>>570266147
you and your buddies are free to leave and go to your favorite zone instead, back to your actual home that is
because the truth of the matter is, you're the one that doesn't belong
you guys try to claim kof or even anything snk is remotely anime and then you act like you can't stand anime, when it's far from it, it's just an ugly amateur artstyle by amateur indie quality talent
you won't get rid of me because there is no legitimate reason to get rid of me outside that you don't like what i'm saying rather than how i'm expressing it which you're lying if you say that ain't the case, so you can go to your filtered speech site instead

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In the current patch, how well does Hotaru do against the new characters/top-high tiers? I'm planning on buying COTW in the next Steam Sale, and wanted to know how she's ranking nowadays, or if they changed anything noteworthy.

https://x.com/MetalSlugRush/status/2065252747528802323
they listened!!!

>>570309246
>mobile only
>not Ikari Warriors
I sleep...

>>570309246
it's a legitimately good idea, too bad about the platform, but it's really along the lines otherwise of what i recommended snk do
assuming this is an in-house development
they should be doing more stuff, even including some original ips they come up with, releasing small games for them on steam and such
just don't do apple arcade because only like 5 people have that and matt bozon is 2 of them

>>570312985
>assuming this is an in-house development
Why the fuck would you assume that? Shit like this is meant to be outsourced. What you would ideally want is a higher degree of supervision from someone inside the company with a creative background, but not a full on in-house development.

>>570307685
I think she's still good but the high tiers are way better. They didn't completely kill her with nerfs like they did with Kain

>>570313406
because i was trying to give them credit for doing something better than what they're doing, my bad!
>What you would ideally want is a higher degree of supervision from someone inside the company with a creative background, but not a full on in-house development.
no, ideally the employees working in-house need to get trained up on their tools and receive quicker more isolated feedback on their smaller projects, otherwise they're just being tossed into the ocean to learn how to swim when their own swim training is from developing petz games

>>570288738
>Anime
>Not one Japanese name
Canceling the whole thing would be for the best

>>570315621
>no, ideally the employees working in-house need to get trained up on their tools and receive quicker more isolated feedback on their smaller projects, otherwise they're just being tossed into the ocean to learn how to swim when their own swim training is from developing petz games
I have zero idea what you are implying here, but the whole thing sounds really stupid.
Making an indie-tier or a cheap mobile game won't give your hire much experience that is applicable to a larger title.
Co-development with a smaller studio is how you get stuff like Metal Gear Rising and Nier: Automata, for example.

>>570319170
>Co-development with a smaller studio is how you get stuff like Metal Gear Rising and Nier: Automata, for example.
you're just outsourcing for one, two, none of the companies that got those done needed the help in terms of skills rather than manpower and design, the latter of which in the context i'm talking about is more of a director-specific thing
>I have zero idea what you are implying here
when you figure out then i'll take your comment more seriously

>>570319342
>none of the companies that got those done needed the help in terms of skills rather than manpower and design
This is false, both of those companies needed specialists rather than brute force. MGR by Konami would be garbage.
If you want an example of a company needing just the manpower, look no further than Playmore outsourcing SamSho 5 and 6 to Yuki Enterprise.
What I'm saying is that SNK wouldn't get higher skilled in-house devs by having them develop shit like Metal Slug Tactics or Metal Slug Rush. Maybe if they had a completely separate mobile or pseudo-indie division, but alas. That said, they do have a project for trainees already. It is Yashamaru game that people also call SamSho RPG.

>>570320727
>If you want an example of a company needing just the manpower, look no further than Playmore outsourcing SamSho 5 and 6 to Yuki Enterprise.
ahahahaha snk or any of its variations
ok lol
lmaoooooooooo
of all the companies lmafahahahah

>>570321083
Exactly. SNK.
I'd really love to see you making a fool out of yourself by trying to explain how they couldn't do SamSho in house, despite making KoF 2003, Neowave, XI, SvC and NGBC around the same time.

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https://x.com/SNKPofficial/status/2065237652425843061

Come the fuck on

>>570322316
What about B Jenet and Konohamaru?

>>570322316
Andy... isn't gay?

>>570322403
>Konohamaru
LMAO, Narutard!

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>>570322316
Wait, what?

>>570322171
yeah you using snk as an example is just a joke
lmao

>run into Mr Karate online
>which is like a third of every match
>round start backdash > starts throwing fireballs and charging
>mashes EX counter upclose
>approaches with only hien shippukyaku and if its blocked they back off and throw more fireballs
>every hit confirms into an actual combo that's piss easy and does 40%
I fucking hate this character. Thought he looked so cool when he was revealed but every nigger that plays him plays like a retard and can still rob games. I thought Krauser was annoying enough being able to get free overheats and guardbreaks like nothing on top of his oversized normals but at least his defense is shit without meter.

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Time for some good ass Street Hoop!

>>570323214
>Thought he looked so cool when he was revealed
Good. Now you've learned to temper your expectations. Especially with modern games, and especially with SNK.

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Color me surprised

>>570322403
Would have been hotter of it was still oneexshota

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>>570322403
>>570334575
These jokes lost their fun after Snk killed all the shotas.

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KOF WON
KYO WON
ODA LOST

>>570325996
Who?

if you're serious about this shota shit you're a fucking pedophile.

>>570338172
You clearly don't understand how it works

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>>570338172
Heh you must be new here on 4chan. Enjoy your stay, anon.

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>>570338172
>calling other pedo because of 2D fictional characters
Everytime.

>biting the obvious bait
everytime.

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I need to post this in every thread, since people still don't understand (or don't want to accept) this is SNK now.

You guys were right about the schizo shit. Now I get why these threads last like a month or more. kek

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>10 years of support for SF6
>Before Capcom ends support, we'll have the end of support for Cotw, the release of AoF4, and the end of support for AoF4

Thoughts?

>>570343449
I don't care. I'll keep buying every SNK product!

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My favorite japanese snk twitter personality is a chud. He (he?) wants to kick out Takaichi for selling out.
I love it.
pnr

>>570341407
>No more older
Wrong
>No more asses
Wrong
>No more boobss
wrong
>No more obscure chars
Wrong
>No more obari
Wrong

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>>570343143
This is what happens when a gaming company only has ONE mediocre GAME

>>570343143
it's what this place deserves
the only reason you guys don't like to stay at your home base is because they won't let you get away with all the namecalling and n words over there like they do here, that's really it, it's just a classic case of wanting to dish it out but never taking it
you spend more time labeling dissenting expressions as schizo than you do having actual conversations and then you whine that the dialogues turn out the way they do

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Quick, Tifa! Run to Cotw. You'll be safer there.

>>570352240
>the only reason you guys don't like to stay at your home base is because they won't let you get away with all the namecalling and n words over there like they do here
Not really, visiting this thread is like going to a zoo but the animal despite the low IQ, somehow can write words, so it's funny to visit from time to time to see it talking to itself and bumping a corpse thread. It got to a point it now goes to threads about other shit because there's nobody else here, which is sad but hilarious.

>>570355875
Turns out with no moderation this is just what happens to threads. It's nice being able to say anything, but some retards have no self-control and it makes people want to fuck off because the constant retardation and negativity is exhausting to be around. It's not helped by SNK's inability to do literally anything worthwhile, but you really see how small pond this fucking thread is when that someone tries to be a retard elsewhere and it accomplishes actually nothing

>>570355875
>visiting this thread is like going to a zoo but the animal despite the low IQ
that's such an adjusts-glasses comment
you might as well use THAT

>>570356574
your whole post really just proves i'm right
it's a classic case of rules for thee
>that someone tries to be a retard elsewhere and it accomplishes actually nothing
if this is the place that reacts so heavily to what you are trying to not so eloquently describe when other places don't even pay mind to it, it just says you're in the wrong place, but you want to adjust your glasses and make snide condescending remarks without fear of clapbacks

>>570356574
>but you really see how small pond this fucking thread is when that someone tries to be a retard elsewhere and it accomplishes actually nothing
It does, FF threads for example have a schizo that samefags this board for like 10 years. It's pretty much the same unless there's new info about games which brings non regular people to threads.

>>570343143
How is some random schizo stopping anyone from talking about the game? I don't talk about it because it looks boring as shit and I never bought it, nor do I plan to. But what's the Fatal Fury fan excuse? They waited 26 years for a new game just to pretend it doesn't exist? Or was Fatal Fury never that great to begin with and the fanbase was just a bunch of loud nostalfags?

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>>570361921
The short of it is that it annoys the people who do like the game (even if it's a minority) because half the time they only end up getting to talk to a single motherfucker whose job is to shit on SNK for years on end

But to actually talk about Fatal Fury for once since I love the older games, the main issue with CotW is that it continues the identity crisis of what Fatal Fury is while also being another game that shows what's wrong with current SNK. CotW is a horrible mix of MotW and SF6 that tried to position itself as a "retro fighter" with way too many accomadations and balance decisions that really prove it's a modern fighter just like SF6 and Strive. Heavy focus on combos, system mechanics and streamlined inputs to appeal to a niche within a niche since the bigger niche is already covered by SF6. It's just not a generally appealing game, mostly because Fatal Fury's strengths were its story and CotW's story is too lite for that

Fatal Fury is always at its worst when it's blatantly copying Street Fighter. FF2 and MotW were janky, dogshit games and the latter only gets retroactive appraisal due to not getting a revision/sequel that fixed its issues. It also dumped any attempt at trying to preserve Fatal Fury's identity with its lane system. Treating it like a commodity means Fatal Fury's unique gameplay concepts can't define what it is, it has to be a normal 2D fighter for people to play it at all (allegedly). Personally I had the most fun with Real Bout 1, but Out of Bounds has to be a gimmick and not a part of the core experience

So cause CotW says that Fatal Fury's identity can't be what it used to be, nowadays people don't get the appeal because all they see is what's right in front of them

>>570361921
Imagine trying to franchise-war SNK franchises unironically.

>>570363213
This is a problem of the genre itself. There's nothing really new in fighting games, nowadays I just play them for the story.
It's the reason why I would rather have an action or adventure game using characters from fighting games than a new fighting game. Stuff like Shaolin Monks was fun and I don't even care about MK, no idea why not a single company do games like these anymore.

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>>570343143
>>570361921
Getting mad at schizos/doomposters is so idiotic. Simply ignore them while they keep bumping the thread until some news comes out.
>>570365429
Huh??

Stop feeding the trolls idiots, thats internet rule number 3 or something

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>>570379127
Hey, Joe!

>>570363213
Personally, I don't mind that they dumped the lane system (ironically unlike SF6, kind of), per se, but I hate that they gave up on what it represented, a third dimension.
Wild Ambition had a right idea. Hell, they could just copy Arika's homework with Fighting Layer and Fighting EX Layer 3.0.
As is, I feel like KOFMI is a better representation of South Town legacy for no good reason.

Cotw is lame because it doesn’t like to differentiate itself from FGs, on the contrary it tries to homogenize itself as a sister series to SF. People like KoFMI because it was different, it was dark and gritty.

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>>570386367

>>570390492
>Cotw is lame because it doesn’t like to differentiate itself from FGs, on the contrary it tries to homogenize itself as a sister series to SF.
I don't like CotW, but I feel like you can trace most of the SF-isms it got to MotW (or even RBFFSDM, heh). Rev system is what supposed to give the game a slightly more unique feel and is something they tried to base on Wild Ambition, but I'm not sure that it does that particularly well.
>People like KoFMI because it was different, it was dark and gritty.
No, people didn't, it didn't play that much different from the normal KoF and it wasn't dark or gritty, especially compared to NESTS saga or even to Ash saga. It was more of a trendy at the time light edge overdesigned animeslop, if anything.
I like MI more than the most people, but let's not pretend that it isn't seen as a black sheep of the franchise and for a good reason.

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Nigga really said KOFMI was "dark and gritty" when you got Fatcoon's bumblebee ninja self insert and turqouise breakdancing cowboy as main characters lmaooooo

>>570397925
I don't really see it as "dark and gritty" either. What fascinated me was the huge amount of alternate costumes, the side missions, and the fact that every character had their own cinematics. Basically, all that single player fluff that the FGC tends to dismiss, but casual players absolutely love.

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I want MI to come back so I can see Ninon's ornately detailed panties under pantyhose in HD graphics

>>570368486
These dumbass companies have continued to shaft storytelling potential to a point where it's legitimately unprofitable to feature it in your game despite GOOD AND PRESENTABLE single player content being what sells your fucking games to begin with. Either that or IP recognition, like Dragon Ball. It's back to the point that even if SNK had better presentation they still wouldn't be doing better than ArcSys, which is still small fry compared to the others. GG's anime bombed hard so either they need to try harder with expanding their brand or just go make Mahvel shit for eternity since that's all they're good for

>>570386657
Yeah the lack of attempt at 3D is a massive shame because Fatal Fury spent its entire lifespan trying to achieve that in 2D and just straight up gave up when 3D became a thing proper. Now it's legitimately a shadow of its former self

And people will complain when you suggest that maybe adding in some more popular characters not from Fatal Fury because of "muh story integrity" like we don't have legitimately dealbreaking fuckers from IRL or Shonen Manga mucking things up. I bet more people would've been interested in Shermie or Elisabeth than Ronaldo and Salvatore. I guess we could also always make "new characters" but look how well SF is doing that. Especially when we're waiting for shit like Rick and Duck still. Such an unfortunate situation

>>570399383
Based and DOApilled (dead on arrival that is)

>>570402320
>These dumbass companies have continued to shaft storytelling potential to a point where it's legitimately unprofitable to feature it in your game despite GOOD AND PRESENTABLE single player content being what sells your fucking games to begin with.
This is what killed every single video game genre for a good while, besides action-adventure or indie-tier shit. I hate esports and multiplayer focus in general.
>And people will complain when you suggest that maybe adding in some more popular characters not from Fatal Fury because of "muh story integrity" like we don't have legitimately dealbreaking fuckers from IRL or Shonen Manga mucking things up. I bet more people would've been interested in Shermie or Elisabeth than Ronaldo and Salvatore. I guess we could also always make "new characters" but look how well SF is doing that. Especially when we're waiting for shit like Rick and Duck still. Such an unfortunate situation
I feel like there's a much deeper issue of how guests are chosen and treated in the post-Fornite world beginning with developers themselves. No one is geniunely excited for shit like Nikki Minaj in CoD or Ariana Grande in some shit Final Fantasy gacha game.
On other hand, stuff like Heihachi, Spawn and Link in Soulcalibur 2 was actually an exciting bonus for fans. Not the word BONUS, it was never the main attraction.
Technically, you can make that is all about crossover aspect. That's how we originally got KOF and later on how Smash was born. But that is a different case entirely (and I'd argue that even there are certain layers of what should be done and what should be never done).

>>570402320
Something I forgot to add to >>570403881
>Now it's legitimately a shadow of its former self
I can SNK give the benifit of the doubt, even if I understand why some people can't do that anymore, and say that it's barelly passing as the SNK's humble new beginnings under Saudi's backing, so they played extra safe to build a foundation. KoF14 and SamSho '19 feel like a lifetime ago and KoF15 felt like a conservative updated UE port of 14. CotW, like it or not, gives a completely different feeling from their recent games in my opinion, even if that makes it more bland in some aspects.
>I guess we could also always make "new characters" but look how well SF is doing that.
New characters are good in moderation and as much as I love clowning on SF6 freaks, even I have to admit that they got some fans. Not a lot, but still.
In general, I rarely see people immediately accept new cast additions. People used to hate Raiden from MG and Nero from DMC, for example. And even with SNK characters there was a lot more of Ash hate than you see nowadays. I'm sure you can think of a lot more examples of this yourself.

>>570401083
You'll get a black hole under her skirt and you're gonna like it.

>>570402320
>I bet more people would've been interested in Shermie or Elisabeth
This game wouldn't benefit from turning into KOF-lite with most of the cool characters missing when it's already being labeled as one. Why not just make KOF aat that point?

I just want to fuck Malin desu

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>>570409147
How do we reverse the zeitgeist so we can see teen girl pantsu in vidya again?
>ib4 kill all normalfags

>>570409528
Based.

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>>570403881
>>570405318
Keep in mind a big fucking reason for failed characters and protagonists is the fact that they don't do a good job giving those characters a good story to work with. Raiden didn't get the retroactive recognition he deserved until AFTER they derailed his conclusion with trying to "make him cool" in the later games and even nowadays more people still like Cyborg Ninja Raiden from Reveangance more than MGS2 Raiden. Ash Crimson, Nero and all of Capcom's failed Street Fighter Heroes never truly get a justified reason for being considered the face of their games and always end up sidekicks to the old mascots where they fit better as roster filler than they do as the focus. Making new shit for no reason doesn't do any good for IPs, there needs to be a more tangible justification beyond new for people to give a shit

That's where characters like Rock and Jin succeeded at first, but their stories were derailed and were given limpdicked conclusions which hurt their reputations

>>570409378
Because for no fucking reason KOF was telling stories when it was designed to be a crossover. The story of Fatal Fury should already be the focus of the game to differentiate it from other fighters, SNK themselves even say as much, but then they put roster filler in the game anyway. I intentionally try to avoid main characters like Kyo, Iori, Chizuru, K', Kula or Ash who get a lot of focus in KOF for a reason because roster padding with characters who don't get as many games would be safer and easier to explain. Hinako would probably fit better in Fatal Fury than KOF

It goes the other way too, why make KOF if you can put collabshit into Fatal Fury? SNK fumbled their own revival because they did a piss poor job giving a reason to give a shit about Fatal Fury. Yet people in these threads think plucking KOF characters in an SNK game is sacrilege with fucking Kenshiro later this month. It's already fucked, you might as well add something that doesn't need Saudi Money

>>570363213
Cotw has to be studied as one of the most unappealing fighting games ever made, I’m not gonna pretend that fatal fury was a opus magnum of gameplay but it had charm and it was revolutionary even till this day you don’t have games that play like older fatal fury outside maybe kof which still is it’s very different own thing which makes you think why would you move away from it to be more like street fighter? The only reason is that you are exclusively trying to appeal to the esports people and if that’s the case then snk succeeded.

>>570411081
>Keep in mind a big fucking reason for failed characters and protagonists is the fact that they don't do a good job giving those characters a good story to work with.
Partially true, partially I blame geewunnery making it hard for people to accept something new. Keeping things fresh and expanding the cast (when its reasonable) are good reasons to introduce new characters as any.
>Because for no fucking reason KOF was telling stories when it was designed to be a crossover.
It had a reason. Reason being KOF originals stole the show by being fucking cool, especially Kyo and Iori. People begged SNK to learn more about them. That's how we got stuff like KoF: Kyo.
You could say that Orochi stuff should've been a separate non-crossover series (well, Ikari and Psycho Solider could stay), but that's a different point I can fully sympathize with.
>Hinako would probably fit better in Fatal Fury than KOF
I don't get that vibe from her. She's too stylish for classic FF, but a bit too simple for MotW. She feels like a classic KoF character through and through, more than other NESTS era additions. Funnily enough, "May" Lee might work better.

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>>570417096
>Keeping things fresh and expanding the cast (when its reasonable) are good reasons to introduce new characters as any.

Obviously, the same characters every time wouldn't make for a satisfying game, but I would like if new characters got the amount of effort Kyo, Iori or CYS got rather than roster filler. It's frustrating how little new generations in fighting games work because devs either want them to be the new face of the series or are just throwing shit at a wall. This is why Luke and Unika get really boring, basic, intentionally good rushdown shoto-esque movesets so that players know you're supposed to like them. I'm worried about S4 of SF6 being 3 flops and Tifa because they'll probably just make Yasmine and Bosch into super generic rushdown, Arjun into a shittier Marisa and Tifa into Mai 2.0

>>570363213
>The short of it is that it annoys the people who do like the game (even if it's a minority) because half the time they only end up getting to talk to a single motherfucker whose job is to shit on SNK for years on end
that's funny because i've literally tossed praise at nu-snk at times and someone still got mad
of all the people i've talked to in other generals, this is the only general that gets mad when the topics ARE the games and company in question
most other general is some lame tangent thing like "i don't like trannies in my madoka" or some soc bullshit, but the fact that anyone gets bothered about someone else shitting on games or source company of said games just shows major insecurity, and they could simply do what >>570371787 said with his offmodel jenet face artwork post, most people succeed the same way just like someone insinuated earlier
being annoyed is a choice

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>>570417875
I agree that just making a shoto-esque character is boring, especially at this point, but rushdown is a popular type and it just makes sense to make a main character like that.
Not that I'd be into making them intentionally too good. Or that I'd make every new character like that.
I feel like part of the problem is that some archetypes fell out of favor, like charge or grapplers. And it's a problem, even if I'm not really into chargeshit and only play grapplers in SNK games.
>This is why Luke and Unika get really boring, basic, intentionally good rushdown shoto-esque movesets so that players know you're supposed to like them.
While I find Luke boring (don't care about Strive so can't comment on Unika, sorry), it just makes sense to make him a basic shoto for the supposed new audience that SF6 hoped to bring in. A tutorial character of sorts. Who were the the token MCs in SF4 and SF5 even? Abel and Rashid?
The things I don't like about Luke are boring ass MMA aesthetics, something that he kinda shares with VFC Cielo, for example. Sure, gi-wearing karatekas became too common, but they still represent a more mystified martial art than a sportsballified version of them.

>>570423493
Yeah and Luke is the result of those two not really being what they needed. Abel was a half-assed attempt to do Alex again, who was already a flop, while Rashid was just the most intentionally charismatic of the initial 4 SFV newcomers. It wasn't anything special, but Rashid is definitely Capcom's best attempt at a "new protag" since like Guile or Sakura

As for Luke, his identity is representative of SF6's issue as a whole. It's intentionally esports coded

>>570423765
Alex, just like all of the SF3 in general was unflopped by the fanbase. Abel was bad because he feels NPC-tier bland. Somehow even more so than SF6 Luke.
The thing I don't like about Rashid is that he was born out of desire to pander to ME (I think Tekken also had a similar phase around that time) and that feels slimy, like all the forced representation. Najd, for example, feels way more genuine in comparison.

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>>570424820
Oh Najd is MUCH better than the other Saudi crap since she was actually designed by one rather than Harada and Ono going "kids like oil barons, right?" there's no contending that. People just like Rashid because he's the one time Capcom didn't make their protag a fucking wet blanket personality until fuckboy Luke

You think you have it bad, every fucking Mexican Capcom's ever made in SF has been RANCID dogshit. Like no fucking shit Mexicans like SNK more when SF has El Fuerte and Lily

i'm still right

>>570425470
>People just like Rashid because he's the one time Capcom didn't make their protag a fucking wet blanket personality
Demitri bros... we are forgotten
>You think you have it bad, every fucking Mexican Capcom's ever made in SF has been RANCID dogshit. Like no fucking shit Mexicans like SNK more when SF has El Fuerte and Lily
Ouch. Yeah, that sounds way worse.
Funnily enough, I'm blessed to be from a country with a bunch of great fighting game characters, at least if you got a sense of humor.

>>570427006
>Demitri bros... we are forgotten
In more ways than one too. Now everyone considers Morrigan to be the face of Darkstalkers.
Also seems to be happening with Rival Schools with Akira having the most prominence lately.

>>570409823
do it

>>570425470
Though the girl that designed Najd gave her light skin but SNK as you described CEOs thought “arabsu are like brack peepo it cannoto be right” then went to give her a tanned skin, which just made her less cool.

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>>570441517
This competition was so random. People only found out when it was over and Najd was chosen. I thought SNK was going to do another one for KOF 15, but no. It was a one-and-done lol

>>570441517
Even the original design had a hint of a slight tan and that's with the colour usage making the tone lighter, so the way she looks in the SNK's concept art for XIV is fine. The problem is how it translated into the 3D model. As we all know XIV had huge problem with shaders and lighting, so her texture was probably made darker than it should've been. Then XV followed the XIV in-game look.
Either way, at least her skin looks consistent. Kukri though...

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>>570443417
No there’s was no hint at all

>>570444579
@Grok translate this alien language.

>>570448410
Certainly! The English translation for this text reads, "The pleasure of being cummed inside." Hope this translation satisfied!

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>>570448618
T-thanks, Grok.

>>570409823
>inb4 kill all normalfags
The ones on twitter at least.

>>570361921
>>570363213
SNK have built a shitty reputation, and the newest game is just not up to par. That's all it is. They were able to coast on dropping rushed, broken games by relying on KOF's 90s and 2000s rep and its buy-anything fanboys. But as soon as SNK released a marginally better game without that rabid base and IP to rely on, their ineptitude had nothing to fall back on.

Like one of you said, it's a modern game, masquerading as hardcore. Anything hardcore in there (which I enjoy) is buried under autocombos, block buttons that autoblock cross ups, homogenized inputs, comboslop, and more. That's not even mentioning the last-gen graphics.

Now, is COTW the best 2D game out now? Yes. But that means jack shit. It takes more than the best gameplay to be successful in this new garbage era. If you're an underdog, your presentation has to be almost flawless, cause you're going up against a wall of trolls and shills. And SNK just can't bring it. Any other excuse is lying to you.

Wait, DPs lose their invul while you're in burnout? What the hell, I didn't think this was a thing. I could have actually been jumping in at them because they decided to burn all their meter like a retard this whole time?

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>>570382962
The women respecter Kukri.
We need a other SNK Heroines.

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>>570457118
Agree

>>570465290
Who is she killing?

>>570474470
Orochi, duh.

awroooo

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Happy Birthday to this guy who's name I constantly forget.

>>570492656
Based NEVER EVER
>"B-but, AOF4"
Yeah. Tsugumi is awesome in Cotw, right?

>>570453946
People complained about the EX combo meta, so instead of addressing it, they patched the burnout stage to be more defenseless.

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>>570494775
He is also the MC of the official AOF3 manga for some reason.
Robert finally gets the spotlight only to get sidelined in the manga adaptation. Not that anyone cares about the manga adaptations. The art is also pretty ugly.

>>570501593
The devs think the EX combo meta -- how combos are done and the damage they deal -- is fine.

With the removal of invincible specials in Overheat, the addition of power gauge gain from REV specials, and the upping of the rate of inherent REV gauge decrease, I think the aim was to shift the EX combo meta more toward guard crushing, as originally intended.

Guard crushing is now more viable as a strategy by requiring the opponent to risk spending power gauge.

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>>570444579
Idk, seems about right.

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Reminder that SNK still hasn't said a single word about City of The Wolves's performance/sales. While SNK has a history of not talking about sales, they do comment sometimes if a product they put out has done well for them. Like with Samsho 2019. They don't give exact estimates or anything, but will still give a generic "it has done well" statement if profitable. The last time someone asked about COTW's performance in an interview, they flat-out refused to give an answer and wanted to move on. Which can only mean what everyone obviously already knows, that being that COTW is a gargantuan failure of embarrassing proportions. Likely hasn't even touched 500K sales yet or if so, only barely above after all this time, all the marketing, all the guest characters, etcetera.

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Holy shit Art of Fighting....*checks chat* 4! Dude are they gonna put Terry and Rock in it!?

>>570513998
Not the same skin tone at all. And she’s way darker in the game.

>>570522709
They changed the hire color I don't think it matters much to be honest

>>570522709
>Not the same skin tone at all.
Yes and gloves aren't grey like on the original design wtf?
>And she’s way darker in the game.
Yes, refer to >>570443417
>XIV had huge problem with shaders and lighting, so her texture was probably made darker than it should've been. Then XV followed the XIV in-game look.
The point was that they didn't do it for brownie points (heh, brown-ie). As in it was unintentional. Which is what the original argument was about.

>>570525342
> Yes and gloves aren't grey like on the original design wtf?
How a fashion choice is related to race swapping? You’re being disingenuous. They indeed made her browner. There was no hint of tan at all in her art, you’re literally making things up.

>>570448410
>Despite living in the 21th century and the advancement our world his seen the storys of dijnns \genies\demons are still chasing us
>Najd a 21 years college girl, has undergo special training with bunch of other girls around her age to gain the the Abiya(robe)of halik(extreme darkness),as halik is a very unruly dijnn and hard to control, and najd was the most Worthy to wear it.
>Najd is quite most of the time as controlling halik is required a lot of focus and if ever goes out of control it can hurt her or others
>A student By day , and play the role of guardian of justice during the night due to her ability to sneak in the darkness

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>>570519143
u-uhhh 3 years of support, s-see you in 2033, GOT'EM!!!

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Another original concept art, she’s as white as they come. Any clams of tan are schizo shit.

afro whitebian

>>570532790
Cool. Thanks, anon.

>>570532516
>fashion choice
Holy fuck, you're actually retarded.
They made her browner the same way they made her gloves blacker. Both were supposed to be darker than they were drawn to the begin with.
If the original artsit drew K' he'd be only slightly darker than Najd.

>>570519143
And it will still end up with a roster of 40+ characters and two fully fledged story modes while being a great game. :)

Now go on being a fake shareholder.

>>570539025
Only +40? KOFXV had +60

40 characters, which means 10 more characters than there will be players kek

>>570539102
It is the most ambitious KOF yet.

>>570539025
Quality over quantity. ;)

they couldn't say quality over quantity back when kofxv's launch roster was less than kofxiv's launch roster and somehow steered away from saying it to say how cotw "truly has 22 base characters if you count the free wave 1 chars, more than sfdix"

>>570539025
Rick Strowd about to be a problem. He's a monster in Real Bout 2.

>>570539880
IIRC he was one of 4 characters with an incredibly easy infinite, his might have been the easiest. Even without the infinite he was incredibly fast and powerful

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>>570513998
>>570534006
I'm more amused/baffled that they also changed her hair from black to white. Her original designer drew her for her anniversary and she still drew her with white skin.


Also, I'm still butthurt at the way she got gutted in XV

>>570542320
>spoiler
She had it coming, but they might've gone too far.

>>570542320
Thanks for the lic. Don’t know why anyone would defend their stupid artistic choice, is it to defend snk or just typical brown people insecurity about their skin color?

Best middle-eastern FG character? Arabian Moon.

The funniest thing about shaheen is he supposed to be from Saudi Arabia but he speaks MSA and his actor is Lebanese

>>570552094
Admittedly, I don't know a lot about Saudi, but speaking MSA sounds about right for them on an official level at least.

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>>570457118

>>570556823
SOUL

>>570554706
No their dialect is so far from MSA like the rest, but obviously it’s the most pure dialect with the least foreign influence.

>>570556823
Heroines was a lot of fun

>>570532516
Are you a self-hating Arab or something? Arabs are brown and she's Arabic, she would look weird with white skin which no Arab has nor ever will have.

>>570573994
I’m not an arab it’s simply that the artist gave her light skin no need to change it for virtue signaling.
And cmon retard Asians are yellow with slanted eyes but draw white characters all the time tf you on latinx

>>570573994
NTA but you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Fucking pigeons, man!

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SNK should buy Ingrid from Capcom

>>570562987
We have around 5 dialect in reality and usually the White Dialect is the one you want to use if you need to be understood by everyone

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>>570581619
We got Ingrid at home.

>>570584797
Boring

>>570589893
SNK made Asamiya boring for some reason. They're too scared to use Goddess Athena cause she's too sexy for 2026

Mok switching to Marco is what you need to know about the Mr. Karate tier

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>>570591995
How is Goddess Athena sexy? Unless you're a feet loving degenerate, I mean.

>>570607125
cmon now you know that's not how she looks most of the time

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I'd bottom for him

>>570608402
In the original game? Skill issue.
But it also means that SNK got options if they wanted to use her, but couldn't.

>>570608670
You'd have to power bottom him, since he's obviously a sub.

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>>570205468
Yuri Garcia is cute. CUTE!

>>570615614
Robert won.

>>570457118
He's lucky that his mom was dead.

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I modeled leona for non homosexual anti nonces.

>>570637971
How many vodka shots do I need to drink her pretty?

>>570637971
Ralf anti-harassment

>>570637971
Why is she so fat?

>>570615614
How many kids will she give to Robert?

>>570653265
She'll be playable while pregnant with twins

>>570653265
What kids? She in her late 40s and Robert Wonders if he would ever experienced training and rising his children

>CotW
>13 match win streak
>matchmaker starts sucking because it's trying to break your streak
>finally get match after 15 min
>Rock smurf
>Still win because I'm Mr. Karate
Mr Karate is pretty strong eh?

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>>570667520
>ranked
>smurf

?

https://youtu.be/AXg77Ltcbec?si=L8FDWwAFNa4Ph8xo

The fuck?

>>570671943
Here we go again!

>>570671913
They were someone really good at the game but playing on a newbie account

>>570671943
That's actually insane, but the involvement of Obari it's not too surprising to see characters from the movie make it into an actual game

I'm gonna be pissed if Duck is bumped to a later spot to make way for Laocorn though

>>570673350
I just want stages for everyone, but yeah. Really want Duck over Lao. Never really liked his design.

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>>570673734
Me too, I imagine Duck is going to have his dance club which I could see looking real nice updated and in 3d

>>570673916
god i hope so i want it to be one of the stages on rotation when i play ranked

>>570673350
im assuming he's probably going to be the guest character for season 3

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Holy shit, why is SNK so GOATed?

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and another.

i hope they add oh angel to the juke box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WYBHXXjW_o

>>570674770
They can't put Laocorn in and not put in the movie soundtrack, they should throw in the other two OVA soundtracks as well. Many of them would be fitting for bgms during matches

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>>570671943
I'm actually curious what they would do for his moveset since I dont recall him having any distinctive moves other than throwing out energy blasts and the big energy fist move. As much as I hate stock mechanics, it would actually fit him well, slowly getting stocks and powering up into his armor and maybe even a God form install.

>>570673350
Wasn't Duck one of the datamined names along with Rick? If they do 6 characters again, he has a pretty good chance
>Rick
>Duck
>Kasumi
>Alfred
>Franz
>Laocorn

>>570671943
>Is half-graphics too much graphics?

>>570677185
The current order of the leak has Rick and Duck as the first two characters of season 3, with the last 4 spots open(one of them is now Laocorn with this teaser). They also added 2 more seasons worth of spots. Franz, Gao, and Alfred are season 4, Ryo and Kasumi are season 5. The order of release has changed before though, so who knows if it's going to stay like this.

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>>570674318
>>570674440
>>570671943
HOLY FUCK.
If she actually gets in along with Laocorn, every single one of you who doubted must KNEEL before me.

laocorn, that's pretty cool of a choice
it's more sausagefest but i'm impressed by the choice nonetheless

Sausagefest doesn't bother me as much as rushdownfest. We're desperately in need of characters with playstyles that aren't just different flavors of run in and press plus frames/throw.

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>>570674318
>>570674440
>>570678014
>not playable
>no 3D model
Why bother?

>>570671943
>Terry: Ah, shit. Here we go again.

>>570680741
>pubes
obari is so based

>>570671943
I'm cool with this. I'll take him over other guests.

you guys think they'll ever add anyone from that motw 2 sprite sheet?

>>570685039
They could since they already said before that the new ones from this game are different characters, but can't really see it happening at least in this game because they have too many characters that they have to bring back.

>>570671943
I never would've expected this, like sure they made the fatal fury 2 ova canon but that was atleast based on the games. The movie is completely out there in comparison, You're telling me that before ff3 Terry and the gang went on a trip around the world to find the armor pieces of Mars the god of war while being dogged by a bunch of bikini wearing supernatural warriors, then Terry's new girlfriend dies and he goes Super Saiyan and 1v1s a god? You'd think he mention that to Rock at some point.

>>570689552
he may have mention it at some point, and Rock may have thought he was talking shit out of his ass or something to impress him as a kid. Hilarious now that it turns out to be real.

>>570671943
So Laocorn gets in but we can't get old man Yamazaki?

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>>570671943
When I said this a good while back I was just shitposting lmao

So how's S3 looking so far?

>Rick
>Laocorn
>Likely Duck
>Maybe Kasumi
>Possibly Franz

I'd have preferred Gao to Franz, but maybe he's also in. I don't think SNK would be able to get away with bimonthly releases so these characters better be in by December

we know half of S3 and its all men

>>570671943
>>570689552
Oda is so creatively bankrupt he’s relying on non-canon sources to add some sauce to the roster. He can’t at all design new characters or write new plots.

I know the jin scrolls were always a thing but it was atleast grounded in reality, but making shit like the movie canon just completely breaks the barrier. Fatal Fury was supposed to be cinematic and about mobs.

>>570678014
She’s gonna be an EOST npc

>>570695008
At least it isn't Ronaldo. They can never take that back

>>570695694
As a Fatal Fury celebration, it's a legitimately cool addition and is probably the first time CotW has actually done something interesting as a Fatal Fury game beyond just being MotW with KOF highlights. It only really feels too little, too late because the base game itself is excruciatingly underwhelming and it feels like they're still trying to justify this project with every addition. Hypothetically if we changed things around this could've at least been hype to SNK fans

>Base game has every character up to Mary + Gao in launch with no collabshit
>S1 is Krauser, Mr. Karate, Laocorn, Rick and Laocorn's female ass minion
>Game has a legitimately interesting story that ties together FF lore in a nice bow for KOF to work with

It's been a fucking mess this whole time. I don't know why people still argue about the integrity of FF's lore when this game fumbled out the gate as the underbaked, underwhelming Esport it wanted to be

>>570696971
If they delayed it a year they would’ve saved too much headache.

Laocorn looks too much like young Krauser

>>570697385
funny we already got another young krauser and i hope he doesnt get added at this point

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>>570697553
They should just change Laocorn’s design a bit. Give him blue hair instead with this shade, and make it a bit shorter.
Not only this but they have a similar personality as the charismatic aristocrats. Franz and Laocorn would like two brothers but unrelated.

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>>570205468
What do you want to see in the inevitable Super City of the Wolves?

>>570698690
better model quality

>>570689827
>>570689552
>>570671943
>Laocorn: Terry never told you about me?
>Rock: I honestly thought he was just trying to sound cool.
>Mary: Or talking out of his ass.
>Laocorn: It DOES sound a little too fantastical but they do say "Truth is stranger than fiction."

Her first name is Blue
Aoi in japanese

>>570698690
The 5th one would be such a cool character but she needs more fanservice

>>570697385
>>570698083
When it showed up on my feed, for a second, I thought it was Franz

Do they even own the characters? Because they listed the tv channels as copyright holders in the tweet

>>570702323
It's probably something weird like the KOF Neoblood.

>>570702323
of course they own the characters. Oda is a very intelligent person and would never make a mistake of that magnitude.

>>570703387
Tell me about it

>Wake up
>Nulycorn out of nowhere
Huh?

>>570703810
They own them but Marvelous also have the rights for the characters. Something like this.

>>570703804
Of course he wouldn't make a mistake in choosing crossover characters.