Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9399 - Agent Stone Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>570177796
Why does Amy like to hang around with so many dudes? It's kind of weird how little female friends she has
>>570211724I can't believe we were almost free.
>>570211724Weird how we have a gayfag /sthg/ doesn't complain about every hour
>>570211724he's lebanese iirc. how does he feel to worth with the joos who send money to israel to bomb his country
I think it's funny that shippers get offended if they see a ship they disagree with. They're pathetic and autistic. They're actually seething that the wrong fictional characters are kissing. Pathetic faggot behavior. I can't believe anyone takes this seriously.
>>570211796She has Cream and........ uh..............Trip in Classic
>>570211796Shadow is not their friend. This is false advertising.
>>570211856I don't know. Agent Stone is blatantly gay in a way you can't write off. Almost none of the scenes featuring him are action. It's mostly just jokes about how gay he is. Maybe that's why. It's just a gag pairing. People aren't taking it seriously as romantic writing and it barely steals your attention from the action. Besides, the most annoying movie character is Sonic himself so it's hard to hold being gay against Stone.
SONIC'S UNDER THEEE GROUND!... now what?
Douge
>>570212071I don't see what you mean. The image says "Sonic & Friends" and Shadow the Hedgehog is pictured alongside Sonic the Hedgehog alongside other characters like Miles "Tails" Prower. His presence heavily indicates that he is a friend of Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>570211724
>>570212106>Suddenly feels the wind push against her lips
Would it improve Silver's character if his future was permanently destroyed and he was forced to stay in the present just like everyone wanted to happened with Future Trunks after the Black Arc ?
>>570212084cnc
>>570212189He looks like he really doesn't want to be there, like he owed Rouge another favor.
>>570212226silver would do that to save the future
>>570212185>>570212084Even these ships that are not even canon are better than ShitHope
>>570212106And then Elise collected the Chaos Emeralds which she used to resurrect him via a kiss. Surge is pissed.
Hope did nothing wrong. she is just another woman who likes Shadow
>>570212253Which Silver would that be?
>>570212106Amy would kill her.
>>570211796DEI women bullshit. Who looks at boys and think you know what I want to play as amy like my gay IDW comics!
>>570212443This form isn't canon thoit never appeared in the manga
>>570211454>>570212336Fiona? Hopeless!Tommy? Johnny'd!Hope? Muhriacoded!
>>570212106Wait is this some kind of reference? I think this is a reference to something
>>570212253Not being in charge of his own destiny is one of the things that make him unique.
>>570212603Chun Li Street Fighter 2
>>570212580Hope isn't Maria coded. She thought Shadow was scary when they met. Anyone who thinks she's like Maria misunderstood Maria as a character. Hope is a bitch that doesn't deserve Shadow. You're a nonfan that doesn't care about Shadow.
>>570212106Those breasts are fake as fuck
How many Silvers do we have at this point? Let's see we have:Base Silver: Guy seen in Rivals 1, Rivals 2, Colors, TSR, and Forces.ESP Silver: Guy seen in Sonic 06, maybe Generations as well.IDW Silver: Nonsense faggot whose future wasn't ruined by Infinite somehow.Cocaine Silver: The guy who overdosed in Tail's workshopMethinks this time travel thing is gonna cause some paradoxes that Sonic Team will intentionally ignore.
>>570212104I think it's interesting that, despite being gay, Stone and Robotnik being a gag paring has less public friction than 2000s Amy and Sonic. I guess it's because Robotnik is a little more supportive of Stone and thus has better chemistry compared to Sonic and Amy.I know the two have different dynamics, but Sonic and Amy was also played for comedy, it's just one is more successful than the other.
>>570212743>You're a nonfan that doesn't care about Shadow.How dare you talk to I, Ian Flynn, this way!
>>570212810You don't have to explain paradoxes that's the beauty of it
>>570212817Can someone ask Potto/Kyle with Potto's hand up his ass how many Silvers there current are? I'm certain the Bumblegrift needs the money anyway.
Hopecucks don't understand Shadow
>>570193070>>570194952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUm0gkjsIHghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ExB38nVrYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgI2hZgYEgi mean tails and cosmo have stuff like this that are clearly conveying romance or attraction, whereas for shadow/maria or silver/blaze, unless you read between the lines nothing they do can't be excused as being platonic best frenz. i myself don't disagree that they are romantically coded and that sonic team are shipfags but there is a difference and kishimoto was right about westerners not reading between the lines whether if its genuine ignorance or an agenda
>>570212253No.
Hope Shadow don't understand cucks
>>570212925>Archie fags >Understanding any game characters
>>570212817Go back to Canada, Canadian.
Shadhope might be even more ooc than Shadamy
>>570212931I miss this artist
>>570211724>>570211903They literally made this dude a brown sissy for Jim's BWC, how would his majority islamic country of origin react to that lol
>>570213137Full please?
>>570211903Paramount was already throwing money at Israel since 2023 but it got even worse under those multibillionaire, dystopian, zionist AI oligarchs Larry and David Ellison. They bought out Paramount and a whole bunch of other media and have formed a media empire with the aim of controlling the narrative. It's unbelievable this actually happened
>>570213364You should know. It was posted here 3 years ago https://files.catbox.moe/uj4wmo.jpg
>>570212743you forget Hope warmed up to Shadow
>>570213449No, I didn't. Maria wouldn't have to warm up to him. This ship is disgusting.
>faggot shit
>>570213449under Ian's cock
>faggot kino
>>570213448hot
>>570213449Hope can go fuck the commander. All the other men are too good for this bitch
>>570213448Sometimes I wonder how it feels like getting manhandled by Man much bigger and stronger than me. No homo
Did you guys ever want to hear someone up and fuck them? I don't care about Surge but she should be that kind of girl. Fight then fuck.
>>570213784*Beat someone up
you gays are gays
>>570212580Making Fiona hopeless was actually the based thing Ian has ever done>why did slap 2 succeed where slap 2 failed?Because Tails was being a creep for years and needed a hit of reality to wake the hell up, whereas Sally was just being a needy bitch.
>>570212534I do, faggot
>>570213784Some politicians of the opposite party that are hot but have that punchable grim you can't ignore
>>570213942>why did slap 2 succeed where slap 2 failed?
Big Six: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow and Eggman
Let's play football
>>570213918I'll take gays over retards
>>570211964Blaze.
>>570214194They're the same thing
>>570214053STEAKS
>>570214269RAISE THE STEAKS!
>>570214053Hellokitty for boys (girls)
>>570214271I wonder who she made those for if you know what I mean
>>570213137>>570213448SONIC STOOPPP THE BUTTHOLE IS FOR POOPING ONLY! ! YOU'RE STICKING YOUR PENIS INTO POOP!! !
>>570214659holy shit sauce?
>>570212527I find Sonic & Friends interesting because it's purely distilled Sonic brand identity into the shortest and smallest package possible.
>>570215094minimalist sonic would be sonic 1991 and sonic 4. sonic and friends is not on brand
>>570215416it is nowbaby ass franchise
>>570215498Finally. The next evolution of Sonic...
>>570214271
>>570215631NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>570212931>>570213137I too miss FWA like you wouldn't believe
>>570215631would
FWA was the worstShe even traced
Sonic has the most Uwu eyes of them all
>>570212527>Emmy Rose>She acts on a whim! Cheerful, bright, and kind, she’s everyone’s mood-maker!>She loves going for walks and strolling around, and her big adventure on the southern island with Sonic and the gang is the best time ever for Emmy.>Favorite thing: Soft-serve ice creamAmysisters, why doesn't it acknowledge that Amy loves Sonic??!? Is even Japan trying to erase that crucial part of her character??Also, the Knuckles bio doesn't reference the Master Emerald.
>>570216428We are all uwu
>>570213960You're the faggot here
>>570216428always was
>>570216838WTFF NIGGGGAAAA MOREEEEE
>>570216747>midwit can't separate the player character as its own entity You're the reason sonic became an obnoxious dipshit
>>570216838
>>570216445I don't have the energy to register sarcasm right now. I'd rather her crush not be mentioned if she still keeps her cheerful, instinct-driven nature. Of course Shitga of America would rather remove both.
>>570216445I wouldn’t worry too much about this. Amy’s love is still present in the Japanese versions of the games. We just need to be present in the English version too
>>570217484 (me)*just need it
>>570216838....would
>>570216838Can you do porn, something lewd maybe?
I'm lowkey excited about Sol Empire politics crumbs in the upcoming Silver & Blaze IDW arc.What do we know anything about the empire itself? Particulary the nobility. I only remember some throwaway lines about some people handling things for her in IDW.
>>570218501idw sol empire is a leftist dictatorship
>>570218636sol empire achieved communism?
>>570217204Atleast I'm no faggot like you
>>570218501>I'm lowkey excited about Sol Empire politics crumbs in the upcoming Silver & Blaze IDW arc.Bro you aren't getting anything exciting from IDW or Sonic in general
Name ideas for a hypothetical Shadow x positive girl fan childBliss, Cascade, Chiaroscuro, Corona, Eventide, Fable, Harbor, Haven, Helix, Oasis, Oracle, Reverie, Sanctum, Vega, Velvet, Willow, Zephyr
>>570218794I'm just reading about Roman history and want to think about Sonic while I do it okay
>>570218501>Sol Empire politicsWhat politics? She is going to make a trade agreement between nations that can't interact at all? Well if she can teleport her whole army into the Sonic world it would be a massive power scale
>>570219114I like a lot of these, being biblical or astronomical makes sense for Shadow.
>>570219339idk allegedly this new villain is royalty so we'll get some throwaway lines at least
>>570218501sol empire politics crumbs?>Blaze, as the imperial princess of her own realm, effortlessly navigates the politics of high society, but Silver struggles to keep up. Instead, he discovers some of the stranger details hidden behind the pristine exterior: The ornate hallways are buzzing with the mansion's cheerful staff who all seem to operate in perfect unity.
>>570217603Would you actually?
>>5702117961. Amy is a tomboy2. Amy has Cream and Blaze. And Jewel, Belle and Tangle in IDW.
>>570219665>but Silver struggles to keep upnew uwuver slander that could feed generationsbecause they surely wont write him as rude, they'll write him as a baby>staff who all seem to operate in perfect unitymind controlguess who mind controlled surge and kit and rouge
>>570219854>Amy is a tomboyHow?
>>570219665Yeah that's perfect context for some throwaway lines to dig into.
>>570212253Every fan pitch i have seen where they dod this Silcer just ends up not doing anything anymore. Same with Metal going solo
>>570219926Silver is going to be dismissed and Blaze will pity him and /sthg/ will laugh and move on cause we hate IDW and Evan and Uwuver now.
>>570219978You really think they're not gonna do the most surface-level exploration of court rituals
>>570220158>now
>>570220228No but I wanna hope.I miss Ian's lore autism desu
>>570220373this is by far the worst series to be a lore autist for. nothing really matters inthis series. concepts are introduced and dropped on a whim
>>570220390That is so Tanabata
>>570220518
>>570219854Amy talks with Rouge more often than she talks with Blazedon't you dare forget about Sticks
>>570219715Put her in the dress now
>>570220390>JP Silver and Blaze is just Blaze being the weenie instead of Silver>which is just Sonic and Blazethis myth of "based and equal JP silvaze" needs to die.
you can tell silvaze fans really care about the characters
>>570216445Im frankly more concerned about thrm making Amy bland and subdued booksmart girl more than anything. Emmy bio here is on point where it matters for me at the moment.
>>570220595>don't you dare forget about Stickswho?
>>570220654>it's just SonazeIt never was, Sonic doesn't act like Silver ever did, he's more of a father to Blaze while Silver is more of a brother, you need to recognize the difference.
>>570220654EU Silvaze is perfectly balanced
>>570220654>which is just Sonic and BlazeSonazefags always stole from Silvaze, it's a fact based on being an even smaller fandom that nobody knows about
>>570192628>real Tails fans hate Sonic & Tails>real Knuckles fans hate Sonic & Knuckles>real Amy fans hate Sonic & AmyI think it's more accurate to say that the way "Sonic & Blank" is handled is the problem. Sonic is largely static, but the dynamics themselves being static as well is a problem. By their very nature, Tails & Amy CAN'T be static in their relationship to Sonic because being so inherently undermines both down to their core. If Sonic & Amy's relationship doesn't have legitimate progress in some regards, none of the Tom & Jerry chase gags matter or mean anything. Even if its in a romantic comedy gag, "romance" is still "romance". If its not taken seriously on Amy's end at least, you've killed her character. Tails is a Robin-type of Sidekick. That's why characters like Deku & Simon the Digger match him down to the core. The honest truth is that Tails should be treated like the kind of protagonist who changes and grows throughout the series, -because- Sonic himself as the static mascot fundamentally can not and should not. Because that is how actual sidekicks like Robin work. Tails is essentially the audience viewpoint character. The moment they try and portray him like he's "just Sonic's tagalong" while Sonic gets all the real focus, you've killed Tails' character. Same applies to Sonic & Knuckles. Knuckles is Sonic's "rival", according to all his character profiles. A friendly rival, a fighting buddy, to the point of being constructed as a complete thematic counter to Sonic on an elemental and philosophical level. Which means it'd be easy to reduce Knuckles to a complete and utter joke because obviously Sonic's way of life is way better, or undermine the whole rivalry entirely by making Knuckles seem like a fool for even thinking he can challenge Sonic. That is a problem. Knuckles should actually be able to challenge Sonic both literally and philosophically. Otherwise... you've killed his character.
Real fags hate SonadowThey ship Sonknux
>>570220654>Blaze being IC means it's stolen from SonazeBlazetards need to die
>>570216445In the context of Sonic & Friends, all that matters is that the fundamental core of Amy's character is maintained accurately, personality-wise. >>570216445>>She acts on a whim! Cheerful, bright, and kind, she’s everyone’s mood-maker!>>She loves going for walks and strolling around, and her big adventure on the southern island with Sonic and the gang is the best time ever for Emmy.>>Favorite thing: Soft-serve ice creamYup, that's "Girl-Sonic" as she's meant to be, 100%. I see no problems here.
>>570219715Yes I would hold hands without gloves.
>>570219943She hangs out with mostly guys and has a rough personality.>>570220595>Amy talks with Rouge more often than she talks with BlazeNot really? If it appears that way its because Blaze is from another dimension.Amy and Rouge aren't friends. Rouge finds Amy too goodie-goodie and annoying and Amy finds Rouge too selfish and materialistic. They don't despise eachother but they aren't friends either.>spoilerWho?
>>570221236>and has a rough personality.no she doesn't
>>570220929nah you just don't understand Sonic & Blaze. You can see it in fanart where Silvazefags want Silver to be the one who fixes Blaze and keeps her in line or motivates her or heals her or whatever which is how Sonic & Blaze work but is the opposite of how Silver & Blaze usually work.>>570220832Nah. Nobody can decide if Blaze is the competent and cool one in Silver & Blaze because she's the incompetent and hotheaded one with everyone else. The problem started in 06 where she was the coolheaded and competent one and it just exploded from there.Silver & Blaze fucking destroys both their characterizations.
>>570220962 (me)also,>>real Tails fans hate Sonic & TailsThe actual problem is that all Tails HAS is "Sonic & Tails". That is the most crucial relationship dynamic Tails has, yes, but it's a problem when it's ALL he has. Tails was completely alone before he met Sonic. But now, that should not be the case anymore. Tails should be surrounded by friends and family who care about him. HIM, in particular. Not just Sonic. Tails desperately needs his own relationship-dynamics with other characters because that is what truly expands him beyond the "Sonic's tagalong follower" bubble. Not beating Eggman on his own or any sort of power scaling thing, it's simply having the opportunity to lead a team of characters without Sonic around. Tails needs friends that aren't Sonic. Tails should have his own dynamics with Amy and Knuckles and the others, rather than just having all of them only fixate on Sonic.
>>570221026It is actually. The Silvaze dynamic is arguably always OOC for one of them. They have no consistent dynamic or definitive work that anyone can point to.
IC Silvaze is "they take turns being retarded"
Amy consistently upsets everyone as much as she cheers them up and this mood-maker thing feels like revisionism.
>>570220962You're wrong, Sparky.
>>570221976No, Amy has constantly been called a "mood-maker" in her profiles for a long long time. >>570222109ok
>>570221564They have a more defined and consistent dynamic with eachother than other characters.Blaze's dynamic with everyone else is just them shoving friendship down her throat and her being reluctant but eventually caving.
>>570222164It feels like revisionism cause lately they want to gloss over the fact she's a menace.
>>570222164>No, Amy has constantly been called a "mood-maker" in her profiles for a long long time.the profiles have been consistently at odds with the characters in game depictions for a long time
>>570221976Examples? I can't think of characters Amy upsets that aren't antagonists.
>>570222268Amy's not supposed to be a "menace" in the first place. what the profiles are saying is that she's meant to be cheerful, uplifting, like a cheerleader who brightens up the whole room with her presence. >>570222308That's purely a writer issue and players/readers/viewers having misconceptions.
>>570222227>They have a more defined and consistent dynamic with eachother than other characters.Nope. Unless you think >>570221773 is consistent.
>>570222308Example? I cant think of one that isn't a localization thing.>>570222392I think the post is just wrong.
>>570222164>"mood-maker"aka a bullshit term that's used when they don't know what else to add about a character.>SNES Peppy: "mood-maker">N64 Slippy: "mood-maker"*raffs in nihongese*
>>570222320did you not play Sonic Battle
I think if Blaze wasn't flat Silver wouldn't like her at all. Busty women take time and attention away from the men and their sacred duties
>>570222536I did. Did you?
>>570222608>I did.no you didn't
>>570221456>Tails desperately needs his own relationship-dynamics with other characters because that is what truly expands him beyond the "Sonic's tagalong follower" bubble. Not beating Eggman on his own or any sort of power scaling thing, it's simply having the opportunity to lead a team of characters without Sonic around. Tails needs friends that aren't Sonic.I agree. Refreshing yo see a Tailsposter agree as well rather than make excuses.
>>570222579true, my wife is flat as a board
>>570222375>That's purely a writer issue and players/readers/viewers having misconceptions.That has nothing to do with what I said.
>>570222690I beat it twice. Did you?
>>570222227>>570222426Nah. In 06, TSR, Olympic Games, and pretty much every western work she's the cool competent mentor for Silver. In Generations 3DS and Otherworldy comedy she's an incompetent woobie.The only consistent thing is "they help each other" which just means "they fucked up so bad in 06 she oscillates between IC and OOC"
>>570222735>>570221456Tails is not his own character. He is an accessory for Sonic.
>>570222869
would shadow cry during sex
>>570222774What I mean is, the profiles and stuff is who the characters are truly designed to be, but how that gets executed game-to-game depends on various factors like whose writing it, how the game is designed etc. >>570222869Tails IS his own character, and treating him like an accessory to Sonic is precisely a problem. Its not just Tails, it's EVERYONE (except Shadow) becoming accessories to Sonic. That is a problem. That is not how they should be handled or what they're meant to be. I compare Tails to Robin because they both exist for the same reason, being designed for the younger audience to project onto. Tails is the audience viewpoint character, we should see Sonic from Tails' perspective. Sonic seems cool and larger than life because we see him through Tails eyes, we see Sonic's influence on Tails, we see Tails' efforts to measure up and keep up the pace. If the focus is squarely on Sonic, and Tails is -just- an "accessory", you've killed the character and he has no reason to exist. Sonic himself works best when he is not, at all, the audience viewpoint character. Its everyone else we should connect with and relate to on a personal level, we should see their growth and development, so that Sonic's presence from their perspective makes him genuinely feel larger than life, and -that- is what makes Sonic the face of the franchise. It's the same kind of logic as writing Sonic to be cool. YOU DON'T. Not directly. It has to come naturally.
>>570222821>Nah. In 06, TSR, Olympic Games, and pretty much every western work she's the cool competent mentor for Silver. In Generations 3DS and Otherworldy comedy she's an incompetent woobie.I feel like people have a tendency to be reductive when assessing female characters, Amy and Blaze included.Blaze being kind of a softie behind her mask was always an intended part of the character.I don't really Blaze as a mentor to Silver in 06. She is a competent partner who fights alongside him and who he trusts with judgement.I don't remember them interacting in Gens 3DS.I think ultimately what I dont like.about Blazefags trying to overemphasize Blaze in relation to Sonic is that it ties Sonic down and achors his existence to her and her nonsense?Like, I see them everything trying to frame Sonic as Blaze's "Chaos guardian counterpart" and stuff and making his character revolve around her.Sonic doesn't work in that kind of dynamic.
>>570223029only if you roleplay as maria
>>570222869I agree, but i think this is an issue and Tails needs to develop more as an actual character.I dont think he is ever gonna truly break off from Sonic and I think the part of his fans that believe he is supposed to need to accept this though, but it doesnt mean he can't be an actual character.
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>570223308All Tailsfags are Ianfags, they agree with everything he says even if they deny it
>>570223214Nishiyama says>Blaze is just trying to act “perfect” as an imperial princess, but she loses her temper easily, is afraid of heights, and is actually a lonesome, bumbling person. She’s definitely not cool-headed (this is also a contrast with Sonic). I think I managed to convey those vulnerabilities as subtle nuances.Does that describe Blaze in 06 Silvaze generally? Not really. Does pic related describe Silvaze? Most of the time, but not all of the time. I think characters don't have to be consistent but I do think they need a baseline. Silver and Blaze have no baseline.>SonicYes Sonic is important to Blaze's character. Read this:https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/sonic-channel-wallpaper-cover-story-sonic-blaze-november-2021/They have a whole damn series about Sonic collecting the Chaos Emeralds and they are restored by the Sol Emeralds.
>>570223214Blaze is Nega-Sonic and everything about her is an inverse of Sonic. The same way Tails, Amy & Knuckles are Kid-Sonic, Girl-Sonic & Anti-Sonic. What defines Blaze is the fact that Sonic exists, she exists in-relation to him. So this: >Blazefags trying to overemphasize Blaze in relation to Sonic is that it ties Sonic down and achors his existence to her and her nonsense?>Like, I see them everything trying to frame Sonic as Blaze's "Chaos guardian counterpart" and stuff and making his character revolve around her.Is a byproduct of that. Blaze being the protector of the Sol Emeralds = Sonic being the protector of the Chaos Emeralds. That's how Sonic Rush itself is written, and Sonic has always had some special connection or control over the Chaos Emeralds ever since Super Sonic was introduced, and Shadow took that a step further with Chaos Control added to Sonic's repertoire as well. But Blaze being "Nega-Sonic" throws her entire "dynamic" with Silver into question. Blaze can not be a "cool mentor" for Silver, when Blaze herself is specifically NOT cool-headed. https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2026/04/29/official-zine-p-spec-vol-7-my-last-bow/>Blaze is just trying to act “perfect” as an imperial princess, but she loses her temper easily, is afraid of heights, and is actually a lonesome, bumbling person. She’s definitely not cool-headed (this is also a contrast with Sonic). I think I managed to convey those vulnerabilities as subtle nuances.Which actually makes her a bit more similar to Silver in that regard, since Silver's naivety and immaturity compared to Sonic is what separates him from Sonic as well. So, the Silver & Blaze dynamic is practically built on the surface-level misconception of what Blaze is like, and that is precisely the problem. Blaze seems composed and perfect on the surface, and that's what she's written as for Silver, when that's not her own true personality in the slightest.
>>570223308>I dont think he is ever gonna truly break off from Sonic and I think the part of his fans that believe he is supposed to need to accept this though, but it doesnt mean he can't be an actual character.Tails having more relationships and developing more as an actual character = breaking off from Sonic. Like, that is literally what this as a concept, inherently.
>>570223854Which is why he will never get that. Tails is an accessory to Sonic. He exists strictly for Sonic. You lose that you lose Tails.
>>570223717all of this is part of gap moe though, where she has a stoic mask but is fiery and emotional underneath. but her grounding other characters depending on the situaiton isn't really ooc, it is similiar to her dynamic with other characters like marine and amy. yes, she called out marine in the end but she still kept her comments until the very end despite marine throwing tantrums beforehand. 06 also just suffers from things not being there more than things that are actually there imo. they don't explain why she has no memory of sonic or how she came to the future.
>>570223756>Which actually makes her a bit more similar to Silver in that regard, since Silver's naivety and immaturity compared to Sonic is what separates him from Sonic as well. So, the Silver & Blaze dynamic is practically built on the surface-level misconception of what Blaze is like, and that is precisely the problem. Blaze seems composed and perfect on the surface, and that's what she's written as for Silver, when that's not her own true personality in the slightest.Yep you posted the same quote I did but explained it better.Maekawa didn't understand the nuances of Blaze's character. Whether or not thet's because he's a hack or because she was a new character isn't really important. 06 has caused a cascade of mischaracterization for both characters. Neither have really been fixed and oscillate between OOC and IC on their own and with each other. But Silvaze is only really in-character in like Otherworldy Comedy, which still smooths over those nuances by the end.
>>570223960No, because being an accessory for Sonic forever is not Tails either. That is Anti-Tails, because Tails is defined by growing and reaching new heights because of Sonic's influence. If what you have is "Sonic's accessory", YOU DO NOT HAVE "TAILS", PERIOD.
>>570223985(me)>>570223717they also don't explain this but silver's light/purity/honesty/naivety part is why she has a soft spot for him like she does for cream. though i don't think silver himself sees her as an older sister or anything like that.
>>570222579The secret every sex connoisseur knows: flat women have tighter pussies, busty women have looser pussies.
Sonic has porn addiction
>>570223985It's not the grounding perse it's that often the surface traits are expressed without nuance and her flaws disappear because of mischaracterization and because their relationship is wholesome.Look at fanart. Silver and Blaze are usually just doing wholesome stuff.
Honestly, I personally think Silver should be more calm and cool like Sonic, rather than hotheaded like Amy to seem different, in order for a dynamic with Blaze to make more sense. Since Silver is supposedly another Sonic, and Blaze is the inverse of Sonic, pairing Silver with Blaze is just doing Sonic-and-Blaze again but with the "Light" Sonic instead. But maybe this is just personal biases 'cause part of me deeply believes that Silver should be like Sans in some regard, to fit better as the "Light Sonic" somehow. Like the side of Silver who fought an eternal lifeform over and over again, to the point of feeling like it's all futile so why even bother trying, yet he can't afford to quit either because that slim chance of hope is what defines the very core of his being. But if that sense of futility wore him down even further even outside of that specific scenario. Like an overwhelming sense of 'why even try? it doesn't matter' to directly contrast Sonic's core trait of always taking action in the heat of the moment. Like, the contrast is what "It doesn't matter" would mean to them, in this hypothetical alternate characterization of Silver.
>>570223717>Does that describe Blaze in 06 Silvaze generally? Not really. I mean, it doesn't describe her in Rush Adventure or Colors DS either. Those sides of Blaze came out more when she was interacting with characters like Cream or Amy.I dont see it as an issue of her being written wrong or bad with Silver and more than Silver doesnt bring this out of her as much.>Does pic related describe Silvaze? I dont care about shipping.>Most of the time, but not all of the time. This feels like nitpicking at this point since youre admitting to it coming out, so she is still herself.>I think characters don't have to be consistent but I do think they need a baseline. Silver and Blaze have no baseline.But they do. It's the most consistent next bar none.I find it weird that you say "make eachother look retardrd" when usually when Blaze is with Sonic, the only meaningful interaction they have is Sonic coaching her into using her Superform.
>>570212527are there bios for other characters?
Trip sucks
>>570224191> i don't think silver himself sees her as an older sister or anything like that.I mean he does in westslop.Pic related. EN 06 "I wouldn't know what to do without you".Most of the time she still just follows him around and keeps his emotions in check like 06. "watches over him like an older sister".
>>570224342>nurse brazeuWoah.. Something to think about..
fwa did draw cute paws tho
>>570225164cuuute
>>570225164I NEED TO TOUCH SHADOW'S TOE PADS!!!!!
>>570224730Sorry I mean Silver & Blaze not Silvaze.>it's the most consistentLook the baseline is "Blaze watches over Silver like an older sister" which is OOC. We don't really know what post-Rush Blaze and Cream interact.Characters just shouldn't interact with characters who don't demonstrate their core character traits. Which is why Marine should be her primary relationship.
>>570223756>That's how Sonic Rush itself is written,But it isn't. Blaze is described as having the combined role of Sonic and Knuckles.You arent supposed to see Sonic as a guardian. Sonic even has to optionally collect the emeralds through special stages whereas Blaze gets them by defeating Eggman, showing the difference.Rush Adventure has Blaze get the Sol Emeralds through missions.Sonic gets by exploring and racing.
>>570224580You a Sega employee? No? Then shut the fuck up
Guys, the reason Sega is revising Amy Rose's profiles lately has nothing to do with Ian.SEGA wants to incorporate her movie backstory into the games for brand synergy.Screencap dis.
>>570223854I don't agree. I think Tails ia destined to be Sonic's tech support and will always feel like that no matter what yoy do since its just the best use of the character. I dont think him having other interactions takes away from that.
>>570224910silvaze ship art is like the same 5 pictures every time I stg
I'm tired of shitdow..
>>570224580Why is everyone obsessed eith making everyone just be Sonic?Why not just be a fan of Sonic? This just hipsterism?
>[character a] is [trait x] but around [character b], [character a] is [trait -x]Okay but I like [trait x].
>>570225370>But it isn't. Blaze is described as having the combined role of Sonic and Knuckles.Except that's just the byproduct of being the inverse of Sonic, because Knuckles is the ANTI-Sonic. Blaze is "restricted" because Sonic has "freedom", and that echoes Knuckles being the "mountain" to Sonic being the "wind". Blaze isn't really Sonic + Knuckles. Blaze is Tails + Amy + Knuckles = Sonic's Foil. It's just that it's easier to say "she fills Sonic's role in her world but she's a Guardian like Knuckles, so she's like Sonic & Knuckles combined". >>570225468Tails is not and should not be "tech-support", because he's meant to be Player 2. Having relationships outside of Sonic is expanding his role and presence beyond being Sonic's sidekick, it requires breaking him away from Sonic so he can actually interact with people meaningfully without Sonic hogging the spotlight and everyone's attention. >>570225626All these characters are derived from twisting Sonic's own traits around or making the opposite of him or whatever, already. I was just saying that if Silver is "Light Sonic" to Shadow's "Dark Sonic", I personally think there's a better way to execute that idea.
Making Shadow cum into my coffee
Your favourite ship is Maria-coded.
>>570225270I think this is reductive. The "gap" is the thing that makes Blaze herself. Its still a part of the character.Hell, if you ask me, this aspect of her isnt even really demonstrated when she's arounf Sonic anyway.Should we just have Blaze interact almost exclusively with Amy?I dont even mind but I dunno how much Blaze fans would even like that.
>>570225782I don’t ship
>>570225726Sparky when are you gonna find your Amy and settle down?
>>570225887Why would I, as someone who looks up to and wants to be like Sonic, EVER do that?
>>570224580Sans is Gray Sonic?
>>570225782No its not.
>>570224490i mean i've seen fanart where the tsundere part who beats up silver stuff is exeggrated too or just the more hotheaded rush characterization. but above it all idk why you use fanart as arguments. most sonaze fanart is horny loser blaze and chadjock sonic but i don't think this means she shouldn't interact with sonic at all.
>>570195176Some of you guys successfully proved to me last night proved my points even after agreeing with this you immediately list exceptions that fall right back on the four criteria that I find cringe to be angry about.So some of you are not only petty but quite stupid.
>>570225941Because Sonic is based and breeding is also based and you can indoctrinate your children into worshipping him
>>570225853I don't think there really is a meaningful gap around Silver.I think her and Sonic have enough going for them (see the Sonic Channel cover story and especially the explanation)Again I think Marine is perfect for Blaze. They're foils, Marine wants to boss Blaze around, but Marine also wants to be mature. She needs characters who antagonize her to work.
>>570224909yes westslop has every character and their dynamic as OOC, people have bitched about it endlessly.she also tells marine to keep it together in rush adventure, it isn't really ooc for her to do that, its just 06 is bland as fuck.
>>570225726>Tails is not and should not be "tech-support", because he's meant to be Player 2.You really need to let this go.
>>570225989I just have this perspective that Sans, in some ways at least, feels like a mirror of Sonic to some degree. He has the white and blue color-scheme Silver kin of has, and Sans is largely defined by being cool, calm, chill and laidback no matter what's going on. He's never phased by anything, he always has that grin no matter what's going on, he never takes anything seriously, he breaks the rules of the world casually, and he's genuinely a very cool guy that everyone knows. And even though he's not the main character in any capacity, EVERYONE knows who Sans is even if they've never heard of Undertale, and "everyone knows Sans" even in-universe. But the main difference between Sans and Sonic is what 'It Doesn't Matter' means. Sonic lives life to the fullest and makes the most of every moment, he takes action immediately without a second thought because that's how you live a life without regrets. Sans doesn't take action because he doesn't see the point. He's known to be lazy and apathetic, because deep down he's driven by a sense of futility that caused him to give up. >"just give up. i did. why even try? you'll never see 'me again." The difference between Sonic & Sans is that willingness to take action vs not seeing the point in even trying. For Sans, it's because of his knowledge that you, the Player, can just reload your SAVE File and reset the entire timeline on a whim, so his actions do not matter. ...Except for one specific route, where your actions will lead to the end of *everything* until nothing's left across all of time and space. In that moment, Sans can't afford not to care anymore. That's when he decides to put in the effort and fight you over and over and over and over again. It doesn't matter that you're an eternal life form that can't be truly defeated, you'll just rise up from your ashes again and destroy everything in your path. Sans is gonna give you a bad time, regardless. In that moment, Sans becomes Silver. "Light Sonic".
>>570225853she is like that around sonic like when she seethes at him for interferring with her duty in the first rush or when sonic annoys her in sonic channel story but it's mostly in dire situations where her duty is involved. she isn't really that ''hotheaded'' by more western straightforward standards compared to more subtle jp understanding of what cool vs hot means.we also see her inner monologue in the first rush whereas in 06 what she thinks is left as a mystery. i think that's part of it.
>>570226206That kind of Sonaze smut is more accurate to the general concept of her character than Silvaze fanart which just has her softly blushing.>>570226387>just 06 that's blandall her interactions with Silver are bland but that's what people want
>Sans is SonicNow this is new, pure autistic energy.
>>570226503No. That is who Tails is. "Player 2", the second player character. That's who he is in Sonic 2 through Sonic Adventure 1, which is the absolute core of Tails as a character and concept. Whether he's just a sidekick or growing beyond that role, that is what Tails is at bare minimum. Tails should -never- be just tech support because that is literally a direct antithesis to his entire character inside and out. Any attempt to make him that is inherently bad and wrong.
>>570224580>>570225726Silver is meant to be inversion of Shadow, his color scheme and traits with Sonic being the middle ground between bothLight - DarkFuture - PastSocial - LonerEmotional - StoicHeated personality - Cold personalityOptimistic - CynicalIf you gonna make a "Light Sonic" then being the opposite of Shadow who is the "Dark Sonic" makes sense. Shadow is more closer to how Sans acts anyway
>>570226709so you just want her to be horny loser for sonic or some other male character you prefer? it really isn't any more accurate than takarazuka soft domming or uwu blushing but both of those are jusy horny fans projecting what isn't there.
>>570226384>Again I think Marine is perfect for BlazeI agree. But Marine is stuck in Blaze's dimension and people want hr interacting with the core cast and in the main setting.>I don't think there really is a meaningful gap around Silver.I think its there. Her appreciation of his naive optimism is playing into it. It's just just a different application of it.>She needs characters who antagonize her to work.I think that's unfair to the character. You're basically saying Blaze is boring by herself and needs everyone to contrastlt invest all their focus and energy into pushing her out of her comfort zone to work as a character, which isnt a reasonable ask.Her "mask" is still part of thr character.This just reminds me of the Shadowfangirls that try to insist all his edge and ruthlessness isn't a particularly of him and he's actually just a softie baby.I have to be honest.
>>570226607I can see where you're coming from. Sonic's laziness and freedom manifesting as nihlism but also his strong sense of justice (which is multiplied in Silver) ultimately overcomes it.
>>570226984>>570226709tanabataschizo exposed as a shipfag
>>570226945>>If you gonna make a "Light Sonic" then being the opposite of Shadow who is the "Dark Sonic" makes sense.Except... Wouldn't "inversion" be like Blaze as Nega-Sonic? You can't invert all of Shadow's traits to get "Light Sonic" because half of Shadow's traits is mirroring Sonic. "Nega-Shadow" can not be "Light Sonic", at all. You have to start at the point of divergence between Sonic & Shadow, and go to the -other- extreme. >>570226945>Shadow is more closer to how Sans acts anywayNo the heck he isn't, Shadow is driven by a strong sense of purpose to pursue his goals by any means necessary. And he's "Mr. Unsmiley". That's like the opposite of Sans, even if both have a vague similarity to Sonic beneath that, which just reaffirms that Sans fits as a "Light Sonic".
>>570226702>she is like that around sonic like when she seethes at him for interferring with her duty in the first rushWhoch we have moved past now.>when sonic annoys her in sonic channel story but it's mostly in dire situations where her duty is involved.Not really?>we also see her inner monologue in the first rush whereas in 06 what she thinks is left as a mystery. i think that's part of it.Because she was a supporting character in 06.Look, I promise I am.not targeting the character right now, but Blaze needs a framework for when she is a supporting character and not just thr center of attention.
>>570226994>>570227104(me)i mean the fact he excused sonaze smut as ''being more accurate to her character'' makes me think hes also a either a shipfag or just projecting some kind of fanboy brain into blaze.
>>570216445She's an Otenba and not a level-headed generic girl. That's what's important.
>>570227316no i don't really disagree with you, i do agree but i think people mistake her stress in terms of danger and responsibility as her default. she isn't going to be like that when eating birthday cakes with silver or anything like that. i think it's largely western fanbase not understanding what a mask or trigger is, she's sorta like female shadow fanbase equivalent wise.
>>570227181>Wouldn't "inversion" be like Blaze as Nega-Sonic?No because there's more than one type of opposite
>>570227316Blaze being Nega-Sonic means she must be the center of attention as much as Sonic is but from the opposite direction or angle of the narrative or whatever. Like, Sonic & Blaze should be the magnetic poles the story revolves around. If Sonic embodies the core thesis of the narrative, Blaze would be the direct inverse of that core narrative, like the flipside to the story headed towards the exact same destination. Like how Tails & Amy's stories in Sonic Adventure have the same relative conclusion, but from complete opposite starting points. Tails' stages are races where you have to outrun Sonic, because Tails shares Sonic's speed and must prove himself internally. Amy's stages are escaping from ZERO because she lacks Sonic's speed and must prove herself externally. Both want to be more independent from Sonic and prove themselves to him, but from opposite starting points. Sonic & Blaze are like that in regards to being the main character the universe revolves around. When Blaze lost her temper and tried to murder Sonic in Sonic Rush, it was like she was seething over the fact that Sonic was interfering with "her" story and "her" boss fight and such. It was like a fight over who the real star of the show is. Really, Blaze is a foil to Sonic, so narratively she should function almost like Sally in SatAM or Archie where she feels like just as much of a main character in the entire universe as Sonic does. Because she's the "other magnetic pole".
>>570224580i think the concept is that he shows sonic's more ''caring and protective'' side upfront, this makes him somewhat like a non romantic and masculine version of amy but amy also ultimately cares more about doing what she wants than having strict sense of ethics.
>>570227581
my gums are bleeding out after a few days of not brushing or flossing sonic chars for this feel?
>>570227439What's important is that Amy was never good, must suck being an Amyfag
>>570224580Being calm is Shadow's thing
keko, what does he think he can say about Star Fox? "Man Miyamotendo's a sellout accepting that Western studio, if only he accepted my Nintencomics proprosal then maybe Starfox would still have his robot-legs!"
>>570226984>takarazuka soft dommingNo but Blaze is the male counterpart for takarazuka so the opposite direction sounds fun actually.>>570226994>it's just a different applicationThis entire post is concern trolling. Nobody is actually happy with how Silver and Blaze has been handled except shippers.>>570227104>>570227386Look at the image I posted. I am first and foremost in it for the fun and whimsy. Blaze getting flustered and retarded is fun. I can even tolerate Silver and Blaze when Silver's straightforwardness makes Blaze flustered.
>>570228117Sonic & Shadow are both calm, so Silver should be calm as well. Sonic is cool-headed, Shadow is cool-headed, so why shouldn't Silver ALSO be cool-headed!?Being hot-heated yet embodying Sonic's heart/spirit is Amy's thing. Silver should feel like another mirror of Sonic who'd be overwhelmed by Amy's energy and enthusiasm, but possibly be more receptive to it whereas Shadow is the strongest contrast to it. That's what brings me to Sans.
>>570228074Rough the Skunk
>>570228280You aren't really making a good argument for why Silver should exist. We don't need three Sonics.
>>570226994Also Blaze is masking passion, not calmness. The control is the mask. Not sure what your point is. I just want to see Blaze be a feisty bitch.
>>570228436It doesn't stop the Undertale fandom from making three Sanses.
>>570227181>because half of Shadow's traits is mirroring Sonic.All 3 are meant to mirror each other
>>570228504The Undertale fandom is full of mentally ill trannies
>>570228616That's practically every fandom these days, so what's the point?
>>570228280Sonic is cool, Shadow is cold, Silver is hot
>>570228152i mean i can find all tons of fanart where blaze gets retardedly flustered over something silver says or does too. heck there's even a canon example of it when silver says why she's in a maid dress in otherworldly comedy. youd just dislike it or call it ''stolen from sonaze'' if i do though. though this isn't really what i find her interesting about her to begin with.
>>570226750Tails being 2P is incompatible with him being an actual character. Which is why they moved away from it after Sonic 3.
>>570227316>Whoch we have moved past now.No. The Sonic Channel story specificslly mentions that she hasn't. Her bio specifically says she's learning.>>570227581see >>570225660The point of her character is for her to be cool and cute (a bit retarded) like Nishiyama said >>570227921. Again why I say Sonaze smut where Sonic flusters her is more in character.
>>570228683And I'm saying, that doesn't work, because "hot" Is AMY (personality-wise). If "Sonic" is cool, both Shadow and Silver should be, because they mirror Sonic. Shadow being the coldest and Silver the most sociable, but all three should feel "cool" in different ways. That works better for Silver as "Light Sonic", then making him the most hotheaded or whatever.
>>570228280amy is sonic's ''heart'' silver is something similar but not about romance and more masculine. he is if sonic's care for justice and his friends etc. was upfront rather than seeming aloof.
>>570228119That's a cool-looking puppet! What's its name?
>>570228719I was referring to thet. It's the only Silver and Blaze moment I like. Because Blaze is masking her cute retardation with coolness.
>>570224580>>570228280The difference between Shadow, Sonic and Silver is the same Dante, Vergil and Nero. Dante is playful and carefree, Vergil is strict and aggressive. Nero is playful like Dante and aggressive like Vergil but also different from both of them in how emotional and open he is.
>>570228738>Tails being 2P is incompatible with him being an actual character.No it isn't, that makes no sense. >>570228876So Silver should not feel like Amy. If Amy is Sonic's heart and she's the hothead to Sonic's cool head, Silver should not -also- be hotheaded and wearing his heart on his sleeve like that. Especially because Blaze is ALSO hotheaded to contrast Sonic's coolness, so Silver being written as hotheaded cause Blaze to be OOC for contrast.
Silver is... Boy Sonic?
>>570227581But it IS her default. Thats hoe gap moe works. She has to be put into situations where you see what's underneath. This is what I mean. Its like Shadowfangirls insisting Shadow is a softboy as a default.That's not how character writing works.The nuances of the character are exposed based on thr situation you put her in.
>>570228968DMC comparisons don't work because the main characters behavior are responses to past trauma.
>>570228904id lean into that more myself if sonic team was going with shipfagging, silver is very ''honest''and pure which we know she consistently likes from charas like cream but silver being somewhat spergy, a male around her age and being attractive(like sonic) can lead into cringy moments if you were being creative.
>>570228968>Nero is playful like Dante and aggressive like VergilBut isn't that inherently closer to Amy, than anything else?
>>570227581>she's sorta like female shadow fanbase equivalent wise.I actually agree.>>570227740Then Blaze's fans have to accept she just cant show up as much as they want her to.
Why don't you guys write cool stories with these characters instead of debating endlessly the conceptual pedantics of what they are or what they are not
>>570229219Writing requires creativity. Autists aren't creative.
>>570229016Part of Silver and Blaze's dynamic is that Blaze is more open and controlled around Silver because of his pure nature. This is why I don't like Silver and Blaze's dynamic because it's based around Blaze losing 80% of her personality around him.
>>570229219im actually writing my sonic forces fanficyou can see im finishing itim uploading it to ao3 as we speak
>>570227581Blaze says she's shy and not good with parties in Generations 3DS.
>>570229016blaze isn't hotheaded by default, she is ''fiery'' but it is still gap moe type. silver on the other mand is not masking anything, it is a bit like her dynamic with marine where she plays the role of the one who grounds others when contrasted with a more straightforwardly impulsive and emotional character.silver feeling somewhat like amy is by intention.
And you guys call me autistic
>>570229448Her traveling across time and space to another dimension for a party really showcases that
>>570229219It's the same problem at SoA and SoJ. We can't move forward with the characters because we're too busy fighting over what they should even be. Always has been.
>>570229358That's not true. Autists can be plenty creative. Even Chris Chan is technically creative. Gooseworx is an autistic writer who was very creative with her work.I don't understand why for some reason Sonic fans have the most boring type of autism where you decide to focus your energies in an infinite debate about whether Water is green, blue, or transparent.
Can ya’ll stop simping for Sticks? I liked it better when it was nichie to like her
I think the Silver and Blaze debate is driven by people, mostly women, who want to "fix" Blaze and want her to be happy doing wholesome stuff instead of just enjoying Blaze being a retard.I blame the the Maekawa era. Most other media, even non-Maekawa stuff we got in the mid 2000s (Sonic X, Sonic Battle, and Sonic Rush)nare nothing like this.>>570229460Marine also makes Blaze mad.
>>570229371It feels like Silver is almost constructed like Amy in order to be _Tails_ for _Blaze_, but this is also backfiring by causing Blaze herself to be written incorrectly because all the hotheaded fiery stuff is absorbed by Silver so Blaze becomes cool-headed and calm which is antithetical to her own character, and Silver's own naivety and purity get taken too far, and so both characters end up devolving into something alien to what their core concepts are. I mean, like, is Silver pure of heart and naive and optimistic, or is he willing to murder Sonic in cold blood for the greater good, or is it wrong to even try and frame this as a contrast in the first place? Whatever the answer to that is changes how Blaze herself is written around it. >>570229460Blaze is described as "losing her temper easily". If all she's doing is being calm to contrast Silver losing -his- temper, something isn't right. "Light Sonic" should not feel that similar to "Girl Sonic". What Silver is as the "light-side" of Sonic should be more than just "Sonic's heart" because Amy is already the heart itself worn on her sleeve loudly and proudly, and Silver was overwhelmed and dragged around by her just like Sonic would anyway.
>>570229708>herpost discarded entirely
>>570229708>Even Chris Chan is technically creativeNo he isn't, just because he mashed a bunch of shit together doesn't mean he's creative.
>>570229708>Gooseworx >herYou're obviously an autistic weirdo like cwc yourself
>>570229701Why not just write Sonic the way you wantWhy are you guys like this. Sonic isn't Jesus. Sonic doesn't need a specific correct way of being written otherwise it's literally a sin. If you want to write a character just DO IT. Instead of writing stories you're making 47 different alts of a character sheet in Devianart trying to finally "get it right"
>>570229448>in Generarions*Runners
Fucking tadc joins Fortnite but not SonicFuck crush 40
>>570229889Everything that's ever been created is just mashing a bunch of other stuff together. You yourself on a genetic level are just the combination of your parents and everything they're composed of, and the culmination of all your life experiences on top of that absorbing more stuff from the world around you. How those stuff fit together precisely is what defines the final product that is (You) as a unique individual. Creativity in-general comes from the sensory data you've accumulated reinterpreted through abstraction into concepts and ideas. The connection between these concepts is what leads to new ideas, and the manifestation of those ideas out into the world as new sensory-based data is what "creation" or "art" fundamentally is.
>>570229753It was never niche to be into Sticks. I remember when she was unveiled that even normies were talking about how she was lewded immediately.
>>570230002>If you want to write a character just DO IT.If you want to write a character you need to know who the character is. You can't just say you wanna write Superman, and then have him murdering everyone in cold blood and laughing like the Joker because obviously that isn't who Superman is.
What training Tangle actually gotReally, the more I read IDW Tangle is the worst written character
>>570229823with marine she keeps to herself until the very end where she drops the ''you're a nuisance'' line as a tough love thing despite marine throwing tempers beforehand, with silver, she just simply isn't pushed to that limit but it can happen with silver being too honest or spergy if you were being creative.
>>570228152>>it's just a different application>This entire post is concern trolling. Nobody is actually happy with how Silver and Blaze has been handled except shippers.I'm not concern trolling and I dont care about shipping. I just don't agree whatever it is in terms of interactions Blazefags want from her even really comes from Sonic.Image posted above was literally everyone else being devoted to pushing her out of her comfort zone. This cant be all we do with the character. It isn't sustainable or a reasonable ask if we want the character to be used more
>>570230002Because if you're going to write a different character then you should just make a different character instead of skinsuiting an existing one.
>>570229841I think a concise way of puttting it is:>Silver and Blaze contain secondary traits in order to emphasize their primary traits>Silver and Blaze flanderize each other by emphasizing each other's secondary traits
>>570228449>Blaze is masking passionI dont see it. The idea very much seems to be she is masking being an insecure wreck.
>>570230309Superman has been written by dozens of different writers with variations of his character in personality over decades. All you have to do is pick which one you liked best.The problem is that you guys turned Sonic's personality into some sort of personal penis measuring context where only your idea of Sonic should be allowed to exist
>>570230409They do piss each other off but they always get interrupted.
>>570228775>The Sonic Channel story specificslly mentions that she hasn't. Her bio specifically says she's learning.Its talking about her being completely closed off. Not her seething about Sonic existing. She moved past that.
>>570230596No matter what, there should always be a core unanimous baseline of who "Superman" is, and each individual's writers interpretation of that base branches off from that unified core idea. Like, how JP Game Sonic is written can slightly differ between certain writers, like between SA1 and SA2 or Unleashed and Black Knight, but they all still capture the same core ideas written in Sonic's character profiles and core concept perfectly.
>>570229016>No it isn't, that makes no sense.It is because the context of him being P2 was him being little brother mode AI that follows Sonic in the levels.
>>570229841>_Tails_ for _Blaze_Did you misconstrue Sonic comparing them in IDW? Ian said they were just supposed to tight knit partners like Sonic and Tails rather than calling Silver or Blaze a sidekick to the other or Sonic and Tails lovers.
>>570229753I've always want to sniff woman's crothch
Blaze is a repressed girlfailure with graceful moves and awesome powers. What's even being argued here?
>>570229708>I don't understand why for some reason Sonic fans have the most boring type of autism where you decide to focus your energies in an infinite debate about whether Water is green, blue, or transparent.Arrested development.
>>570230756No it doesn't have to be like that. Comic fans tend to understand this enough and even cherish some variations of the characters. And if they dislike something, they'll shit on it and life goes on as they wait to consume the next thing that appeals to them.I have only ever seen Sonic fans being this hellbent on Sonic's personality being exactly the way they want a matter of life and death
>>570213448>half liddowREEEEEEE
>>570229841he's a little like amy because blaze is the sonic and sonic team are shippers. though i don't think blaze actually is anti-sonic anyway, she has some overlap with sonic and purple as a color simply doesn't convey the visuals of being opposite to sonic's blue as well.both being willing to murder but also being so pure of heart you're swayed by the words of an innocent girl is part of being light sonic, he is ruthless aganist anything potentially evil, threatening that peace and good. but if someone who is definitely part of that innocence he wants to protect is so devoted to him, can he be behind it all? maybe she is described as ''losing it easily'' but that isn't really what it is actually portrayed in practice even in rush duology, she has exploded before yes, but only by bottliing it up and coming off as stoic before, and only in certain triggers involving specific danger and threat, though she loses her cool in otherworldly comedy because silver is too honest, if you think that's a good directioni've seen silver and blaze be described as ''sonic who tries to take an amy like role'' and ''amy who tries to take a sonic like role'' maybe that makes them clearer to you.
>>570231006that's an oxymoron
>>570213784This unironically is something that this thread's idea of "in-character" sonic would say lol
>>570230843And Tails still follows Sonic to this day, so why would him being P2 stop him from being an actual character? His SA1 story already develops that core concept further into new territory by having him RACE Sonic in his story. The logical conclusion would be Tails being the second player character in the game but also having his own separate story campaigns as well.
>>570230576>The idea very much seems to be she is masking being an insecure wreck.The idea is that Blaze represses her emotions. The direct translation of her internal bio reads:>■BLAZE (Blaze)■>She manipulates and protects the ‘Sol Emeralds’ (tentative name - items that are counterparts to the Chaos Emeralds). In an alternate world, she takes on the combined roles of Sonic and Knuckles. Usually, she is calm and composed, but it feels like she suppresses her hidden emotions with her rationality. When she burns with anger and her restraint is broken, she becomes quite terrifying.>She is a Tsundere type. She is extremely shy and tends to create a barrier between herself and others at first.>(However, once that barrier is overcome, she becomes excessively intimate)>Normally, she wears a cloak. It serves as a symbol of self-restraint, reminding her not to recklessly use her fire-controlling abilities, which caused her to be bullied in her childhood. However, when something happens, she throws off her cloak and reveals a surprisingly active side.>Underneath the cloak, she hides a costume reminiscent of the Takarazuka Revue! Apparently, she is self-conscious about her lack of a chest... (She becomes extremely angry when this is pointed out).>14 years old.
>>570223214>She is a competent partner who fights alongside him and who he trusts with judgement. Look, make Blaze a dominatrix that fuck Silvers in the ass every night, or make her his little irrelevant pet that makes Silver look good. But don't try to sell me "they are so in sync" as if it wasn't the most boring sanitized basic relationship ever. I want flavor
>>570230002>Sonic isn't Jesus. Sonic doesn't need a specific correct way of being written otherwise it's literally a sin. IHe is
>>570231130If you give a loser cool powers do they become a non-loser?
>>570230846No he's saying Silver and Blaze dynamic encourages the dynamic where Silver is a hothead/ naive crashout which forces Blaze to adopt the mentor role.And he's right, their 06 relationship is still their baseline, if they have one at all.
There is not a single character pairing that isn't "in-sync" when they fight together
>>570231273Blaze doesn't even mentor him in 06. Her decisions are objectively wrong in that game and she keeps him from getting to the correct ones.
>>570231046>No it doesn't have to be like that.It SHOULD because characters are CHARACTERS. A specific character should always feel like that specific character at their core, regardless of whatever nuance a specific writer brings to the table. "Sonic" should always feel like "Sonic". It shouldn't be a gamble of what "version" of Sonic you're getting or "who this version of Sonic is", because it should always feel like "Sonic the Hedgehog".
>>570231264Yes. Yes they do. Especially when they know how to use them which Blaze absolutely does
It’s going to be 100 issues of IDW and what exactly does the comic have to show for it?
>>570230596>Superman has been written by dozens of different writers with variations of his character in personality over decades And a lot of them rightly get criticized. Just because somrthing happened doesnt meannit was fine that it did. This is like the same retard that points out Knuckles in 06.Yeah it happened and it was bad which is why everyone hated it.
>>570231194The in-sync shit isn't even their real relationship. It's paint by numbers crap.Sparky is right. 06 and IDW is how they actually operate in practice. Blaze gets forced into the mature older woman to Silver's immature younger man which breaks her characger.
>>570231458You still get credit if you're wrong.
>>570230321She trains under the master of hype moments and aura. It’s actually insane how bad she looked in the mini series.
Can you guys and gals direct me to any good Sonic content creators?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK8bse3Quohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y6JHG30U4gAnd is there a central hub like a newspaper website where the community gathers for auditions and to create teams for their projects?
>>570231046>Comic fans tend to understand this enough and even cherish some variations of the characters.Comicfans complain and cricize characterization and interpretations of the characters all the time.A big difference between comics ingeneral though is how they repackage the same stories over and over so you expect the retold version to be somewhat different. Japanese media doesnt do that really.
>>570231264Only if the powers make them hot like Peter Parker
>>570231542So? You think Movie Sonic should have never been made that way because it's not like how the "right version" of Sonic is like, regardless of success? Regardless of different views of Sonic still coexisting?
>>570231563What does Sonic have to show for existing for 30 years besides a bunch of disparate media that have nothing to do with each other?
>>570231104Purple is in-between red and blue and she is described as having the role of sonic and knuckles. Although I think of her more and Shadow + Knuckles anyway.
>>570231104>though i don't think blaze actually is anti-sonic anyway,Anti-Sonic is Knuckles. But Blaze is inherently similar to Knuckles, AND Amy. And Tails. But NOT Sonic. >As a result, we came up with the concept of Sonic dashing across both screens, the tagline “Double Sonic” (DS!) to play on the dual screens, and a new character who serves as a counterpart to Sonic—a dual protagonist with abilities equal to his own.>For example, she has the “Fire” attribute to counter Sonic’s “Wind,” performs horizontal spins to contrast Sonic’s vertical spins, and is “restricted” in contrast to Sonic’s “freedom”… and so on. From there, we developed her character to be someone who feels a strong sense of responsibility for her position and is therefore bound by her own self-discipline.Blaze is the polar-opposite of Sonic, in a parallel role to Sonic. Blaze has Tails' insecurities, Amy's hotblooded passion and Knuckles' responsibility all in one, and that specific combination results in someone opposite yet equal to Sonic by being everything Sonic is not. But all that tends to be overlooked or ignored or forgotten when she's paired with Silver because of how Silver is often portrayed.
>>570231570IDW is based on the dub of 06. Blaze isn't even a mentor in 06.
>>570231181>And Tails still follows Sonic to this day, so why would him being P2 stop him from being an actual character?Yes. Following Sonic narratively doesn't make him a P2. >>570231183Im aware, but i wouldn't describe Blaze as a passionate person. She bottles up her emotions, but its not like by default she is a super passionate individual. She can be intense though.
>>570231937her proto design does look like mephiles which yes makes me think shadow was also one of the inspirations even if that's not what ended up being shown. though her being sonic + knuckles makes her not ''anti-sonic''
>>570231861Movie Sonic absolutely should not exist the way he does, BECAUSE he fundamentally isn't Sonic. He's just flat-out a different character entirely.And the MOVIE adaptation is the last thing that should EVER try to be "different from the source material", because movies are what reach the widest audience possible who don't even know what the source material is.
>>570231360Surge and that guy that follows her around; water and electricity
>>570232101>Isn't a mentor in 06Kinda pedantic isn't it? She's the one telling him what he ought to do, she's the one who makes the sacrifice. Ultimately she's the one who is secure and commanding.
>>570232208But she's NOT "Sonic + Knuckles" at all in the first place. She does not have Sonic's traits as a character. She has a parallel role to Sonic, and that's it. She herself is not Sonic at all, that is WHY she is compared to Knuckles.
>>570232390Thats not really what happens. He just asks her for her opinion on things. Again, someone described her as a confidant and thats a better description.Someone he respects enough to ask for direction when he is lost or doesnt know what he should do.
>>570231875You could say this about most franchise with more than one person at the helm. And then you add translation and localization on top of that.
>>570232353That's your personal taste against the overwhelming success of the Movie interpretation of Sonic that isn't even threatening the existance of your favorite version of Sonic. Maybe is something is more popular than the original source material, then it means it's the way to go. Sonic is a franchise meant to make money after all.
>>570232495I agree. The only thing she has of Sonic is being the hero of her world and using 7 stones to transform.But that stuff isnt really describing her as a person or character.
>>570232390She only gives him advice and makes the sacrifice against his will. She's secure because she doesn't know most of what's going on and she's not commanding because Silver refuses to do the one thing she commands him to do. It's inaccurate to their intended dynamic.
>>570232634It doesn't matter how successful it is because it is not SONIC. And it being successful should not mean changing the core game franchise to match the movie version, either.
>>570232015she has things that she shares with sonic, both are more ''action'' than introspection characters(represented by sun, the moon characters are the ones about reflection, introspection and emotional openness, the unconscious instead of the ego) , both sometimes hide their feelings (remember how sonic is trying to not break in front of emerl for example, he isn't about ''duty' but he will still not break in front of others and keep positive because he hates tears) both sonic and blaze dislike physical affection, both sonic and blaze have strong sense of justice and act as heroes (yes, sonic is a hero, just an unconventional one to silver and blaze's more conventional ways) a true anti sonic would be a non action character, would be lunar instead of solar themed, be about something else rather than heroism or justice, be emotionally straightforwardly open and affectionate, caring etc. instead of aloof. she does contrast sonic in terms of duty vs freedom (like knuckles) but she isn't a true opposite imo.expanding on the silv blaze sonic amy thing, i ve seen people say silver is sonic with a lunar filter whereas blaze is amy with a solar filter.
>>570232814The purpose of Sonic is to make money, not make you happy, not to be "accurate" to the real Sonic. Why do you think you're entitled to getting your version of Sonic?
>>570231006Yes but we're arguing what the Silver and Blaze dynamic is, what the Silver and Blaze dynamic is supossed to be, and if that characterization is still respected in either or both.The main argument is that "there is a true Blazs beneath the mask and beneath the girlfailure thet only Silver (and Cream) can truly bring out", while the counterargument is "no, that's stupid and OOC and I don't like it because the girlfailure is Blaze".
>>570233041Blaze is not Anti Sonic, she is Nega-Sonic. She takes Tails Amy and Knuckles' opposing traits to Sonic and blends it all together without ANY of Sonic's traits, to get the true inverse of Sonic that embodies everything Sonic is not. Sonic is cool and aloof, Blaze is intense and strictly disciplined, so both are somewhat adverse to open displays of affection for the exact opposite reasons.
>>570233041you're forgetting that sonic is the sun, therefore blaze can't be sun and the opposite of sonic.
>>570233057Stop thinking like a business executive when its creatives who actually -make- Sonic. >>570233342Blaze is the protector and embodiment of the SOL Emeralds which areA) Sun-themed. And B) The polar opposite of the Chaos Emeralds that Sonic embodies. And "Chaos" himself is made of water.
>>570233342>you're forgetting that sonic is the sunI thought he was the wind
>>570232526>>570232762Their dynamic is "Blaze watches over Silver with the charm of an older woman". The in-sync shit is fake and only amounts to combo attacks or having similar traits.
It's better if you post something sexy
>>570233450>when its creatives who actually -make- Sonic.No one is creative when it comes to Sonic.
>>570232634Sonic's characterization in the movies has very little to do with the movie's being successful specifically. People take it for what it is rather than treating it as the reason it is good.The main thing people talk about with him is anticipating him turning into hs Game character over the course of the movies.
>>570233750>The main thing people talk about with him is anticipating him turning into hs Game character over the course of the movies.No they don't.
>>570233203i don't really dislike silver, blaze cream as a trio (they can be the team light, the inverse of dark if you really wanted to) but cream is supposed to be mainy associated with amy and it kind of makes team rose seem even more pointless than it already is.in a sense cream has traits that blaze would value more and amy feels is too much (in terms of being too naive or honest) whereas amy would understand marine's loud and impulsive ways better while being a slightly more mature version of it, whereas blaze being responsible and strict dislikes the tendency. maybe the girls sidekicks creating conflict was the point?
>>570233597It's better if you guys actually help with basic necessities >>570231776Else I'll go google it myself.What is wrong with you people, you always complain that this general never produces anything, but you can't even appreciate already made content and you don't do anything to change your lack of productivity.
>>570211724He looks like he's about to do the Gangam Style dance
>>570233750>Sonic's characterization in the movies has very little to do with the movie's being successful specifically.You cannot sustain this opinion as a fact. They made Sonic like that and it worked. People like Movie Sonic.
>>570233478he has multiple themes. but the whole motif of sonic and knuckles is sun and moon. silver is also probably moon themed.>>570233450sonic is still sun themed and ''the sun'' as an archetype just as knuckles is the lunar archetype.
>>570234050>he has multiple themes.so much for being "simple"
>>570233041Blaze is an introspective character though. Its what she does all through Rush
>>570234050this is also probably the point of Solaris since mephiles is evil impostor who kills and replaces sonic>>570233478>>570233450
>>570233342Blaze is literally Sun themed she uses Sol Emeralds. Sol = Sun.>>570233564>sync shit isnt real>describes it
>>570234275both sonic and blaze are the sun, you're not really debunking my point.
>>570233835They do.>>570234026I can because its true? Yes people like Movie Sonic. I didnt say otherwise. But his characterization specifically isn't the key to its success. Sonic is just a likeable character concept even independant of characterization because blue rat go fast is likeable.But when it comes to his characterization, most of the discussion around it is people thibking/expecting him to grow to be like his game self.
>>570234495>both sonic and blaze are the sun, you're not really debunking my point.then how are they opposites
>>570234495Which is? Because i would describe Blaze as Moon masking sun
>>570234507>Sonic is just a likeable character concept even independant of characterizationThen why does his characterization matter so much to you? Maybe Sonic being super accurate to his game self isn't actually very important?
>>570233859I wasn't talking about teams but yeah Cream and Marine test Blaze which is good.
So much autistic garbage
>>570234834
>>570234275It's not real. There's no lore. They just insist on it.
>>570234694Because his characterization is ehat gives him legs and makes him timeless rather than a cheap gimmick people will bounce off of eventually. Its why Marvel shit is just a fad but DC is forever.
if you guys spent half as much time trying to interpret depth from characters with none as actually making up your own characters with depth you might actually have your own series and audience
>>570230970need fox gf
Amy is cute
>>570235113Sonic is primarily known to be a fast blue hedgehog with an attitude, that's it, that's the key to his success
>>570235131I have made my own characters.
what did we learn here today
>>570235289This series is poorly managed
>>570235289Nothing, because everyone knows Sonic fans are autistic losers
>>570234620she isn't which is what i am trying to say>>570234650 what does moon masking sun mean? i think we have to look deeper and determine what does being moon or sun mean in sonic series.
>>570235131I like to pretend this is all going towards my character ideas.
>>570235113Not really. You can ignore his personality like the Movies did and be still successful. So my conclusion is that Sonic's personality, in the end, is actually pretty inconsequential beyond a key core things about his appeal.
>>570235446True
>>570235239It's not enough by itself, especially in 2010. The movies are being carried by using game characters with stories that mirror and evoke the depth from their game stories right now.Him being fast blue and having attitude draws you in but it doesnt keep you invested. What keeps you invested is his deeper character.Yasuhara even talks about this.
>>570235446This was already evident by the fact that Sonic is only popular in the West and not Japan.
Silver = Sonic + SonicBlaze = Sonic * -1Silver = BlazeSonic + Sonic = Sonic * -1
>>570235583General audience does not give a FUCK about his deeper character
>>570235446The movies cant keep this up forever. Sonic needs to be a timeless evergreen series. The movies success is down to the initial flash of Sonic to a new audience. But that eventually fades. Im already seeing a lot of normies talking about movie sonic fatigue.What will determine whether these fans stick long term or not is if they transition into being fans of the wider series or not.
>>570235157Amy was always not good
>>570235446it's honestly the aesthetics, as a drawfag(i wont ever post art here though to not reveal my identity) i drew some sonic fanart even before properly playing sonic games beyond sonic 1. its just aesthetically appealing
>>570235718The big part this place ignores is that it is STRICTLY American Sonic that is popular, not Japanese Sonic.
>>570235823Yes, the design is timeless, personality? In my opinion not really
>>570235157Agreed.
>>570235809Storybook boost games forever, I fear.
>>570235718General audiences don't know about it. That's the issue. People who learn about it end up being invested, even if they cant quote vocalize it.Its why Sonic is still relevant but characters like Crash and Spyro aren't.>spyro is getting a new game!Spyro isnt getting a movie.
>>570235809Then they just make new movies with a new Sonic someday, rinse repeat. You can say Sonic's core personality remains as a good point of reference for the rest of the franchise but it doesn't live by it.
>>570235996>People who learn about it end up being invested, even if they cant quote vocalize it.The vast majority of people don't care
>>570224231I choose to believe this. Not because it is true, but because it justifies my preferences.
>>570235827This isn't true lol
I don't give a flying fuck about Sonic as a character yet i'm a big fan exploring the franchise thoroughly, i'm i the only one?
REMEMBER THE TIME I SPILLED THE CUPOF APPLE JUICE IN THE HALLPLEASE TELL MOM THIS IS NOT HER FAULT
Silver and Blaze must not interact periodBlaze must not interact with many characters already including Shadow and Rouge because she's break their character for her own benefitShe's not supposed to be outside her world she's a one season character.
Why is Blaze controlling flames considered heretical?
>>570235701is this actually introspecting on something or is it just trying to say silvaze sucks
>>570236374Heretical?
>>570233203 Oh, that' it? I think the girlfailure part can be brought out by anyone, as long as they are trustworthy, open, and aren't afraid to push her a little. Blaze needs someone who can challenge her attitude a bit. Amy chips a crack in Blaze's armor in Rush too.
>>570236157>Then they just make new movies with a new Sonic someday, rinse repeat.You can't rely on that. The generational gap will be like 15 years each time and fans will bicker about it amongst themselves more than they already do. A timeless core is ehat gives a brand cohesion.>>570236167>The vast majority of people don't careThe vast majority of people arent fans of the series. Look, this is just true of anything in general. There is a reason Marvel stuff was unknown beyond Spidey and X-men prior to the MCU and its because the rest of Marvel didnt have a core concept for people in to latch onto.
>>570236312Silver is great in Rivals because that flat purple cat doesn't show up and tell him to chill
>>570236398No I'm actually curious about the Sol Empire royal family.>>570236429Nishiyama said it.
>>570236779>Nishiyama said it.Where?
>>570236648no, the flat purple chameleon shows up instead
>>570236851This nigga quark fucks dogs!
>>570236863https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2026/04/29/official-zine-p-spec-vol-7-my-last-bow/>It’s a shame, though, that I couldn’t incorporate the original concept I had—where she’s self-conscious about her ability to control fire, seeing it as heretical, and usually hides her arms under a cloak—into the game. It would’ve been nice if she could’ve thrown off her cloak and started running right before the stage began.A bit ambiguous if that is indeed the lore, but Blaze doesn't like to use her flames without reason.
>>570235827Id you ask the average person to do a Sonic impression, they are gonna do a Jason Griffith impression as say "You're too slow". So no lol
>>570236779hmm, i think silver is supposed to be sonic with a ''moon'' filter instead of ''sun'' filter (like blaze has which is why while she has dualities with sonic she isn't a true opposite like knuckles or several other characters could be) but i am not clear what being a moon vs sun means in sonicverse.
Shadow is Jesus. He was the son of the creator who was sent to Earth and died for our sins. He later rose from the dead. He was crucified by humanity who feared him.Mephiles/Iblis are based off Satan, fought by God (Sonic), Jesus (Shadow) and the Holy Spirit (Silver)The Holy Spirit is frequently depicted as a white dove who flies around. This is why Silver is The Holy Spirit. His design is obviously meant to be angelic.Sonic is literally the prophesied God, confirmed by S3&K concept art ("伝説の神" = Legendary God)
Either he is just saying stuff or its unrevealed religion-based lore that will never be explored again
>>570237270>>570237090
>>570237150>Id you ask the average person to do a Sonic impression, they are gonna do a Jason GriffithThat's not the "average" person, that's a sonic autist. Most of the ACTUAL core audience either grew up on the movies or the games with RCS
*dies*
Hi /sthg/!
>>570237475
>>570237475Right side is literally this meme
>>570237775I don't think you know what "literally" means
>>570237660So the Blaze from Rush isn't the real Blaze despite appearing first.Okay.
>>570237475Uwuver fags need to get raped on sight
>>570237775krack can't meme, we do know
>>570224231It's because busty women are more likely to be "used" so it's stretched out.>what if i bagged a VIRGIN busty womanyeah right lol
I love cute boys!
>>570237959Blaze wouldn't say that
>>570237572No lol. Even the new generation people growing up with Sonic content online which all depicts him with 2000s Jason Griffith voice.Im not even being bias here. I prefer Ryan.
>>570238171>Even the new generation people growing up with Sonic content online which all depicts him with 2000s Jason Griffith voice.That's not true.
>>570238049They are the best
>>570238230Ive seen the polls lol
>>570238171Most normies I see doing Sonic impressions go for Ryan. Jason is the one I least see people mimicking
>>570237943You went so far back I don't even remember making it. Why are you like this
What's more interesting is how RCS' voice as Sonic never succeeded at becoming culturally associated with Sonic's character.
>>570238341Ryan and Jason are closer to eachother than any other Sonic voice are to one another.I see overlapping of the two when people do Sonic impressions. A lot of people didnt even realise his voice was different back in the day.
>>570238278Yessss
>>570238358you just type from:krack932 silverand it's like the second imageit wasn't so hard
>>570192628>>570220962I am a real Tails fan and I like Sonic & Tails>>570238510<3
>>570238583
>>570238473They aren't that close. And there were many complaints in the late 2000s regarding the Sonic series' voice direction. People in general didn't like 4Kids dubs of things >>570238583Based
>>570238695Amazing image>>570238701:)
>>570238572
>>570238763Boy time?
>>570238808im sorrrrryyyy i offended youhere's a gift for you
>>570238850Yeah!
>>570238701>People in general didn't like 4Kids dubs of things The actors themselves are good, the product is just held back by localizers that were lousy even for their time.
>>570235820>>570235958Cute
>>570238963>The actors themselves are goodPeople did not think that at the time. The overall quality was seen as bad not just the localization differences
>>570238925>>570238963Boy Time it is!
>>570239051Nah he's right, the voices themselves were hated at the time as well. Fans of the Adventure voices hated that they changed them. It was the usual new/different = bad. Things have changed since then as kids grew up and others got used to them
>>570235157True.
>>570239247Kino
>>570239247>>570239381Boys!
>>570239474So many Sonic and Tails misadventures we never got to see. Just the two of them hanging out. No other character has this btw
>>570239180I can practically hear his noodly arms trying their hardest to punch.
>>570238914>124639679_p0.jpg already exists. Do you want to replace it?>YesThank you I'm no longer offended now
>>570239280although nostalgiafagging is def a factor i think there's some objective badness in RCS sonic considering there should definitely be fans who have nostalgia for it by now in their 20s or teens or even older than 20s but no even the 12 year olds still use jason or ryan. its just unanimously agreed as unfitting even with time factor.
>>570239624Does Shadow believe in Santa Claus?If you told him NORAD tracks him would he believe it?
>>570239610Teirusu is very strong
>>570239605Amazing!
Damn that Pomni Fortnite render is pretty neat...Wish Lunar looked like a cute clown-jester-whatever too
>>570239790He'll lose an arm-wrestling contest to everyone, even characters younger than him. But that's okay, his strengths lie elsewhere!
>>570239762I don't knowIt could go either way. A lot of weird things happen in Sonic's world. He seems to believe in things like bad omens and gets a little wary around the supernatural.
>>570239750This was about the 4kids voices, not the 2010s and up voices>>570240018>Wish Lunar looked like a cute clown-jester-whatever tooHe doesn't?
>>570239750RCS Sonic is also the only that somehow sounds worse as time goes on
>>570238701>They aren't that close. And there were many complaints in the late 2000s regarding the Sonic series' voice direction. People in general didn't like 4Kids dubs of thingsIm not saying thr arguments didnt exist. They did. But im speaking about the average normie. The early 2000s internet didnt reflect the normie audience.
>>570239605This why can't Sega listen to the real fans and give us more Sonic and Tails games/moments. They're more than enough
>>570240106No he doesn't. He throws punches
>>570240143bad omens?supernatural?>>570240194>he doesn't?*lunar doesn't
>>570240306They doesn't. The actual comic calls him they
>>570240196sgea told junichi to sound older in frontiers appearently, but they also did the same for RCS which makes his already too deep voice worse.
>>570240306shut up lunar is a boy.
>>570240306You are a fag
Yay!
>>570240194Lunar is kinda cute but jesters should have some crazy colors. Sadly IDW is obsessed with using lame color palettes for their characters
>>570240291Yeah, the weakest punches. Consistently.
Tails!
>>570240661I see what you mean
hahahahahahahahaha
>>570240712>Battle statsYawn. He's capable of fighting by punching people and that's part of his arsenal of abilities.
Trans per hour
Shadow isn't a nerd
>>570240882>we lost character-based one-shots for crossoverslopGrim
>>570241034Iizuka wasn't gonna let them write Shadow anyway.
Cutest boyCutest girlCutest anything
>>570241103That's unfair!
I love him
>>570241085Iizuka is the reason Shadow stays Shadow.
>>570241158I love her too!
>>570238379i think sonic's design inherently doesn't ''sound'' like RCS if that makes sense. like for silver or shadow they can sound like either their en or jp voices (even if they are the opposite of their en or jp in many senses) but sonic's design inherently does not look or sound like roger.
>>570241158Me too
>>570241197Shadow is the least like Shadow when Iizuka is involved. He made a whole game about him and he was OOC.
>>570241358<3
Lucky boys
>>5702415038==/==D
>>570241525
Has anyone shipped Soliel and Lunar with anyone else or are they still a dud in the fandom lol.
Blazefags will try to tell you this character is not a loser
>>570241662Luckier girls
>>570241750>they? Lunar is one person.
>>570241750He fucks my oc
I wish we had cute boy spam (Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, heck even Silver) instead of Tails pedo spam. Tails is ugly. Yellow is the worst color.
>>570238379It's never sounded right. Too old, too subdued.
>>570242119Good thing he's orange.
>>570242119I could have posted a cute Sonic pic, but then you called the cutest boy of all ugly so that can't happen sorry
>>570242119If you hate Tails then you hate Sonic.
>>570242119Die in your rage :)
>>570241937>>570241987Haven't read the comic since Jewel 9/11'd the restoration. What's the deal with him and megani? Are they connected to the Starline resurrection arc or whatever is going on.
>>570242272He also called the cutest girl ugly and that's an unforgivable transgression.
Tails is beautiful
>>570242354He looks like he kicks fat fox nerds
>>570241421He wasn't though
>>570242354He looks like he fucks aryan girls
>>570242490why are tails fags always trannies when tails is about accepting your body even if you dont like it?
>>570241796Literally spends the whole thing introspecting.
>>570242504Sonic agrees!
>>570242540
Also... Silver, Knuckles, and especially Shadow are definitely NOT cute. Their designs are entirely focused on making them appear tough. Sonic is the only boy you listed who manages to balance it with a bit of cutenessMeanwhile Tails is fully 1000% cute
>>570242678Never mind him he's falseflagging
>>570242704Maekawa was literally a consultant on the game.Shadow is in-character. What does he do that is supposedly ooc?
>>570242678
what does being a sun or moon mean in sonic?
>>570242818>Maekawa was literally a consultant on the game.So?
>>570242737This is factual
>>570242119Tails looks like a faggotsBehave like a faggotsEvery time he speaks you want to punch himHow can anyone find him cute? It has to be people who see a completely different version of Tails that I do. He is nothing but cute
>>570242737This. This so much this. 100%
>>570242932Yep
>>570242737Cute cute cuteTails tails tails
>>570242950>He is nothing but cuteTrue
Oh its samefagging hours. My bad.
remember this
>>570242119>>570242950Wow you guys aren't mentally sound
>>570242737>especially Shadow aredefinitely NOT cuteKYS plus Tails has never been called cute by Sonic plus Sonic Team employees call Shadow cute
>>570242950>He is nothing but cuteTrue. I think you were trying to say "he is anything but cute" though
How do we kill this pedophile faggot?
>>570242915Answer the question
>>570243182They're jealous their favorite characters will never be as cool, cute, smart or brave as Tails.
>>570243154Tails is loved by many. Why do you hate?
>>570243203>To Sonic, Tails is like a cute little brother figure who looks up to him, and also a dependable partner. >CuteCope
>>570242737Nigger
>>570243182Liking Shadow makes you mentally ill and unable to appreciate true beauty. Yikes
Why are you guys so angry over best boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkKgobm8nhw
>>570243659Because they're also best girl.
>>570243203Sonic Channel literally has dialogue of Sonic calling him cute. Primenic also calls Sails beautiful in Sonic Prime if you want to count that
>>570243850>Primenic also calls Sails beautiful in Sonic PrimeHow much of a faggot do you need to be to remember this
>>570243938Prime is canon
Men spam Tails because males are bad at detecting cuteness.>Sprengelmeyer et al. (2009) - Women (especially premenopausal) showed greater sensitivity to subtle cuteness differences. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19175530/>Lobmaier et al. (2010) - Women outperformed men specifically in cuteness discrimination. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513809000531Based women within Sonic Team like Aoi Yuuki and Kumazawa Minami know Shadow is always cute. Women see the soul whereas men see the flesh.
>>570243850Why do Tailshaters lie
>>570243659They're jealous that their boys don't even come close to how amazingly wonderful he is>>570243938Sonic thinks Tails is cute and loves him. Cope
Nobody cares krack
>>570243203Only sick demented feminist tumblr ladies call shadow cute. Tails is universally cute
>>570243938Some of us actually enjoy this franchise. Why are you even here?
Everybody cares krack
>>570243992Is Silver cute?
>>570243992Good thing women find Tails cute so I can justify my liking of Tails! Because of course I need the validation of the opposite gender to form my own opinion of things!By the way there are common universal markers of cuteness and Tails matches them more than Shadow
>>570244171no
>>570244095Sonic is a tumblr lady?
>>570243992Shadow isn't cute. He's cool, tough, badass, edgy, whatever, but not cute. You don't like Shadow because he's cute (he isn't), you like him because he's strong and rough
>>570244197what is this suposed to be?
>>570244171yes
>>570244141
>>570244197
Holy seethe
Tails fans have such a superficial idea of what's cute no wonder they are total losers.
>>570244146Yes Kit, you're cute too <3>>570244171Not really. He's more cute than Shadow at least though
>>570244434How many of these do you think she can fit inside?
>>570244352black arms cock>>570244494moar?
>>570244517Your favourite character is the ugliest boy AND girl.
>>570244323Shadow is described as cute canonically and by members of Sonic Team. You are a moid so you cannot see it.
Tailschads are epic
>>570244545wow Tailfags are incredibly rude
Tails is a moidcore characterSilver and Shadow are foidcore characterssimple as
>i open the thread>i see drama>i close the thread
>>570244785tails fags are rude and spammers and trannies and have a schizo melty everytime you criticize them.
Tails has female fans. And stop using incel lingo
look at these tailsfags right now, absolute state of them. just pure emotional diarrhea flooding every reply like that'll magically make their foxboy self insert viable. they got nothing because the second you point out women dont cream for shy nerd tech shit their whole house of cards collapses. these are the same rejects who got passed over by every girl for actual men.
Amy!
>>570243992>>570244242>see guys a woman liked Shadow guys! That means I can like shadow too guys I'm a complete utter vaginal slave guys! I'm castrated guys! Shadowfags are kind of pathetic..
>>570244737Tails is described as cute canonically and by members of Sonic Team. You have shit taste so you cannot see it.>>570244785She started it, Silverfriend. We're just saying the objective truth now
>>570244759Tailschads are all united in their love of Tails while other character fags are arguing with each other over ships, wind and lids.
my mom thinks amy is cute
>>570245125This kind of behavior is sad. And they're acting so erratic out of nowhere too. What's their damage
>>570240907No one said it wasn't, just that boy is squishy in comparison to his allies.
>>570245241Your mom is very perceptive.
>>570245125Why do tailsfags always carry this incel energy around them?
>>570245086Are you projecting your trauma?
My mom has no opinion about Shadow
>>570242119>Yellow is the worst color.This part of the post is funny because it clearly shows that you remember what happened last time you tried to pick this fight
Never stop tailsfriends
Different people find different things cute
my mom beat me as a child
>>570245131Just like that other anon said, Tailsfags are shallow people who can't see beyond appearances and superficial impermanent traits. Shadow's soul is cute. He will never age out of being cute. Unlike Tails, who would be dropped by most of his fans if he were older.
>>570245331Tailshaters are the ones acting like incels >>570245086And an interesting thing about incels is that they care too much about what women think. It's funny because you shitheads brought up this gender war bullshit out of nowhere
>>570245184This is what the internet would say truthnuke
>>570245541you are a literal (You) farm.
>>570245437True, but she wanted a fight, and this is a fight she can't win>>570245538Tails is cute both inside and outside, so that's not an issue. Also, these are cartoon characters that will never age
the reason it is tailsfags doing this more than better male characters comes down to attachment theory. people with anxious or insecure attachment styles form especially strong bonds with fictional characters that mirror vulnerability. tails is custom made for that, he is the ideal projection screen for any low esteem autist who feels like the overlooked smart guy.look at it this way: every image dump is tailsfags screaming "sonic help me" at sthg because deep down they know their foxboy fantasy cannot survive actual scrutiny. they are not defending tails. they are performing the same pathetic surrender he did in forces and expecting other tailsfags to save them from consequences. every flood just reminds everyone exactly why tails needed rescuing in the first place and why you will never stop needing the same.
Sonuckles: enemies-to-friends Knuxadow: anti-social lonersKnuxilver: shared brain cellKnuxails: brains meets brawn
Shut the fuck up, i can't even enjoy a normal thread without you fuckers going full trannyfaggot bullshit, just talk about sonic.Holy shit how restless people are around here, years pass by and you post always the same shit.
Shadow's inner cuteness, whatever little there was of it, was killed alongside Maria
>>570245950stop being mad at autistic people for acting autistic
>>570245990He's still cute, it's just covered by scar tissue.
>>570245831Peak
>>570246090There's nothing an autist hates more than another autist
tailsfags are pulling the laziest slide tactic in the book right now flooding every thread with the exact same dozen images theyve been recycling since 2022 because god forbid they hit up moe for five minutes and grab something fresh even though the tags are bloated with untouched tails art. these parasites cant be bothered to expand their folder its all the same foxboy pics over and over like a broken record designed to numb everyone into thinking this recycled slop is just harmless background noise.
>>570244836women find tails cute like a sanrio mascot, but they don't find him ''hot'' shadow and silver they find him hot. 4chan is animebrained so they think cute=fuckable
>>570241796>Vanilla's out-of-place ojou-sama laughAh, now THIS was the characterization we SORELY missed out on...
>>570245831Based
>>570245331>sex is the only unit of value I can understandLook at this woman so silly hahaha>>570245541Very humorous we only post Tails here and they got furious for no reason
>>570246243This is false, autistic people like the company of other autistic people
>>570246481I hate other autists they're too socially retarded
>>570246090I AM THE ONLY AUTIST HERE AND YOUR PILE OF TUNA CANS IS NOT PERFECTLY STRAIGHT
>>570193915Thinking of you.
>>570246231Now they're copypasting lol
I only like that manmosu marimo fatty tails that anon posts from time to time, otherwise I don't find him cute, sorry
>>570245583Don't feed the troonposters.
Tailsfags finally went into a civil war. The tailsfags vs the tailsfujos.
>>570246725Not really it was just Tailshaters throwing a tantrum
>exists
>>570246303Female artists make porn of Tails all the time>>570246593They lost so hard lol>>570246652From what I've seen that artist hasn't drawn Tails in years, and I didn't think his art looked that good when he did. He got better though
...anyways did you see Sonic Team is hiring for basically every position? Apparently some kind of restructuring is going on. This makes me worried for Frontiers 2
I will not pick any side, i just want to post tails while everyone else don't post tails.And i can't now because everyone is posting tails and having their bullshit larpwar, this is my personal autism ok???
>>570246725That's not what happened at all. Krack tried to pick a Tails vs Shadow cuteness fight and got utterly BTFO by TailsKINGS.
no girl wants tails
>>570246481Only if they support each other's autism; if they don't, watch the other party double-down on self-destructive autistic behaviors.
>>570246725I feel the same way about Silvaze. Now that IDW forced itself into the games people are going to be much more picky to what they see in the comic. Comfy times are over
>>570247080I hope they fire everyone and hire people with actual talent
>>570247220Tails doesn't need a female approval
>>570247205Women? Superior to men at detecting cuteness.
>>570247161Ok then I'll just post boy and ignore bait
>>570247421Tails IS female approval.
>>570247220Wasn't it a running gag in AoStH that Tails would always get the kisses over Sonic?
>>570247226I support Fiona autism.
>>570247226Hello, Fi'.Miss my autism?
>>570247080SEGA publicly said they would increase the budgets of Sonic Team in 2023, and Kishimoto didn't know it yet when that news came out. Kishimoto also said they were already working on Frontiers 2. I think these new jobs are more likely to be for the game after Frontiers 2>>570247430This >>570245131 is also a woman
>>570247483Based Tails enjoyer. I'll post girl.
>>570247681Yeah maybe. Though if they announced a staff increase in 2023 then why is it only happening now
>>570247603Hey, Fonz, I approve of sharkjumping when YOU do it!>>570247657'sup me-ona, I did ...NOT!
>>570247926Yeah, that's weird. Maybe these things take a long time to get done for whatever reason
the sol emeralds randomly warp her to sonics place and time just like silvers portals what an amazing well thought out character
how many fionafags are there?do they still outnumber the taildsfags?
>>570248040:P
>>570247042mostly as a femboy who gets effed by sonic... and even that is moreso done by men who love femboys than women. you know what i mean.
>>570248272:3
>>570248240Theres only 2. Fi’ and ‘iona. How many different filenames does this one screenshot have?
>>570248272:)>>570248314Women (like everyone) love Tails, cope
Oh, yeah. Pico Park exists. I had forgotten again
>>570248428Hey I already posted that!>>570248597You have some nerves
There are no atheists in foxholes because fox bussy is so good it'll make you believe in God
I have a question for tailsfags. Why should I care about Tails?
>>570248103Don't think too hard about it. Sega doesn't.
>>570248872Because he's the best character in the series
ur all gay
>>570248889>Hey Sol Emeralds, take me to the olympics, I wish to participate with Sonic and his friends.
>>570248742Oh lol yeah you did >>570247483Let's make sure to post it again next thread
>>570248428yes women like tails, but they like him as being purely cute, not hot, and animebrained people here think cute means=fuckable which is why they are trying to argue shadow is cuter than tails.shadow/sonic/silver are ''hot'' but have some unintended cuteness factor due to most of these characters being small animals with big eyes.tails is undeniably the cutest male character, but he isn't hot.
Tails, I have an offer for you...
>>570249014
>>570248982How? Why is he relegated to be a sidekick?
>>570249183Tails has a ton of porn, people find him hot.
>>570247661Can’t wait for these total corruption of Amy’s character to go away
Shadally Scribbles
Shadow's cuteness is physical too but it's mostly because of his gap moe personality
>>570249560Top 10 scariest
>>570248872Well, first off he is the cutest thing ever conceived. But that alone, while perfectly valid, is also a little shallow compared to the full extent of his amazingness. There are many great things that could be said about him, but I think ultimately it all comes down to his perfect design, particularly his tails. While characters like Shadow need their story, backstory, personality, and everything else about them to be explained traditionally, Tails communicates the most important things about him through his design, particularly the tails. Having two tails is weird and unusual, and that is usually characterized as a weakness, but instead of letting that be a weakness, he makes it his biggest strength. This is all immediately communicated by just glancing at him, the two tails are iconic and effective at communicating that he's amazingI could explain it better, but this should suffice>>570248597>>570249013I like you anon, it's best to make love than to fight
>>570243992Not a tailsfag but nigga I don't care about unsolicited opinions from foids
what type of blaze fanart do you like to see
>>570247957>NOTHard to digest, as always.
I fucking hate tailsfujo.
>>570250027porn
>>570247657It’s hilarious how you didn’t get banned yesterday. Jannies really don’t give a fuck about this place.
>>570250027rouge and blaze kissing
>>570250027Her being a knight ot a prince.
W-w-w-w-what do you MEAN Fiona wasn't banned?
>>570250153Who?
>>5702503724chan is understaffed and rotting, barbarians like me are just... claiming our rightful revenge.
Good Afternoon, I love Silver and I hate w*men
>>570251136don't we all?Love Silver I mean
>>570251126Sonic has dead eyes and a thousand yard stare.
>>570250842 (You)
>>570251402Even Sonic loves Silver
how comes LoZ gets remakeslop for their first 3D game and we don't
>>570252019>>570251402>>570251136I hate Silver. I think he's trash.
>>570252162Why do you WANT that?
>>570252158Sonic always visit new worlds, but new worlds never vist Sonic
>>570252180The one thing Chris isn't good at.
https://youtu.be/TjdDPaNUgF0?is=RERFwncvLbrmVv-W
>>570252180Hopecucks utterly btfo by wheelchair Maria. Hope isn't good enough for anyone
>>570252364this chart itself is bait, well played
>>570252714>>570252714>>570252714
>>570250027Her being a knight or a prince.
>>570252184>w*men
>>570251203>Jet and...Pirate!Jet!
