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The Baxter Phone Call Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/714529243732640268

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked >>570176450
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>>570271402
He looks very Chinese on that image
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>Losing lane to Calico
>a hero who is hard countered by three separate green 800s (extra health, grit, or rebuttal)
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>tell teammates to please buy warpstone metal skin PLEASE
>they keep getting bummed by haze the entire game even before she got silencer
what does one do here?
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any ultrawide enjoyers? does it make the game better? never owned one, but considering purchasing one.
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Table of pro games after urn rework.
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>try different characters
>loss streak
>"now I'm back playing my main I'll climb back up"
>loss streak continues
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>>570271727
>prescence
what meta and power mean?
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i love victor
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>>570271668
>ultrawide for competitive
idk man
I think it's more of a single player cinematic experience thing
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>go 3-0
>my sidelanes feed 20 kills
>lose game and it's literally impossible to catch up
>three games like this
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>>570272305
you should have just ran 4 urns and bought 6 counter items
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sex with geist
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>>570272827
Careful Rem!
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>>570271402
What is the Baxtuh Society gonna do with ma numba?
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Sex with Venator
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>>570273310
I just unbound my parry button
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new massive content/hero patch soon right? i'm so tired of this stale meta and aoe urn snowball slop...
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>>570272069
Let me guess, spirit Geist and Dashfernus?
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It's over, Graves upplayers. We've been exposed.
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>>570271402
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>>570271819
>Practice character until I feel comfortable picking them
>Feel uncomfortable when I try to return to an old main
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Just played a match with a guy emphatically promoting melee Geist then going 2 and 16

Are there any other builds like that which are just straight up throwing the game?
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>>570273735
>seven wr 37%
seven needs buffs :3
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>>570273735
>Muh pros
I know for fact there are /dlg/ anons who play better than these goobers but are too autistic to join these discord tourneys.
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>>570273160
sell it to spam callers
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>>570274445
So THAT'S why nobody trusts Shiv
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>>570273918
He was just bad at baiting parries. I'm sure I can make it work if I try.
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i like how the hidden king just says "shiv is a dangerous enemy" and nothing else when he's streaking
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>>570274783
this a leaked hero or what
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>>570274783
You're not tricking me buddy that's just geists model
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>Walkers
>They don't walk
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>>570274783
why doesn't this game have custom characters and public servers like tf2? i thought you could mod whatever you want including cheats so what gives?
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I get snowballing is in every moba but does it have to be this insane and does it have to be EVERY fucking match? Surely something isn't right when every match one team is at least 40k over
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>>570274783
why are you censoring charges
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>>570275503
It wasn't him, this leak is from fagsweeper
Highly doubt its real because this guy lies about shit all the time.
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>play billy
>chain enemy
>chain breaks on literal air
>he gets away
When the fuck are they fixing the bugs on this piece of shit hero
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>>570275325
this game is so fucking easy lmfao 50% of games will be even for 20 minutes but the enemy carry will be retarded enough not to show up to an urn fight giving us free mid and 30k souls and they just instaloose of a single decision of one guy
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>>570275701
(and here's why that's a GOOD thing)
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>>570275660
For me its his bashdown not bringing people down for some fucking reason
Thanks yoshi the vindicta/GT matchup already kinda stinks.
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>urn is LE BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
lol lil gups didn't even experience what securing the stasis chamber was like in neon prime
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Uhhhh deadtards???

Overwatch just MOGGED Yamato
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>>570275196
I bet the original design was for them to be wandering objectives but it turned out too unfeasible.
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>>570276051
I started playing when they released Venator because I thought he looked cool as fuck.
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I love how this game just blatantly pits you against 5 stacks on discord calls and then expects you to carry with a bunch of retarded solo eastern european cockroaches.
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>>570276145
>its an evil jap robot hero

shiieeeet yamato should have white hair too
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>>570276386
xhe ugly
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>>570276145
no one here thinks deadlock is better than overwatch
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>>570275267
moglock has custom bhop and movement servers already live
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>>570276705
I do.
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>>570276721
ok but i think a simple ffa team deathmatch server with fast respawns would be fun
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>>570276554

the upturned angle is always more unflatteting
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>>570276904
they have it
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>>570276721
holy shit this site runs worse than fucking Kick, that's actually impressive
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Dead game
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Why is wraith allowed to have 7 cards that never miss and explode your HP bar on top of her bonus damage, free stun and free escape/chase tool?
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>>570277381
she is a strong and empowered black woman (literally)
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>teammate abandons for no reason 10 minutes into a game
I love being in the forced loss queue
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>>570277659
maybe their dog is on fire
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>It's another episode of the enemy has a gun rem who sucks but somehow my entire team manages to feed him
I think I need a stiff drink
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so my lane partner revealed to me that he had "QoL mods" installed when we lost the trade AND lane prio at level 0, because he was bragging about dealing "30 more damage" than me.
team also refused to listen to my calls or pings so when I have people literally 20m from me that just turn and walk away instead of fight with me, eh, what can you do.
Ascendant 1 is still shitlo.
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what if instead of nox nostra mina forced you to smell her feet instead (scales with spirit power)
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>>570277381
Because she is a carry (codeword for: a character that is just better than the rest for no reason).
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>>570276705
hello xister!
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>>570276705
I didn't like Overwatch. It insisted upon itself.
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Now that Yoshi seems to be satisfied with the urn.

What new objective should they add?
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I got sunburn on my bald head now I have a pounding headache and toothache!
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>>570278808
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>>570277659
maybe their dog is horny
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>>570275920
bashdown also misses if your too close to your target
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>>570278752
Some obnoxious thing that appears every X minutes, forces everyone to focus on it and breaks the flow of the match. Those are always fun.
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>>570278752
Is it actually settled? Am I actually going to have to brawl every 6 minutes forever?
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>grave echo sharded wall instead of skulls
hmmm
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Yoshi please make individual play important again, we already lost being able to yoink Rejuv, now we lost the ability to yoink urns because of the whole KotH bullshit, let comebacks happen because of one good player saccing themselves instead of making everything a 6v6
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>>570279290
>implying
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>The Taxman's audit begins.
You need to deposit a certain number of unsecured souls within a certain timeframe or your troopers stop showing up to work
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Is vyper honest?
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>>570276386
>>570276973
>been asking for a female omnic hero since forever because they plastered a face on echo
>they finally do
>they just made her Kiriko 2.0
Send Blizzard devs to davy jones
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>>570279290
Nothing wrong with that
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>>570279629
Seconding
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>>570279440
I hated the mid boss change and now it's the same shit on urn. They want deathballs. They want games over in 25.
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>>570279587
>strong gun hero
>stupid squishy at all stages
I'd say so.
Plus you counter her completely with metal skin with her only real noticeable spike being mercurial magnum
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>>570279629
>>been asking for a female omnic hero since forever
Orisa?
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>>570279290
This was stronger when urn required heavy melee but it's still strong and probably better in high elos.
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>>570279587
She was strong before when the frontliners were shit, now that they're all better she has a harder time.
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what do
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>>570280314
I can guarantee that Mo was getting greedy with Scorn and wasting his stamina to poke, setting up an easy Riposte into Binding combo and getting himself instantly killed. Going double healtank in lane is also a surefire way to get your enemies to rush Healbane.
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>>570280314
Play a better game
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>>570280015
>Pitch Black Negress Centaur straight from Wakanda is your female omnic
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>>570280314
Don't play like shit
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>>570278808
why didnt you put sunscreen on you dope
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>>570280314
Swap with Vin at the start, if she ignores you then gg.
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>>570280015
>>570280915
idk but the orisa pron kinda doing numbers
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I think the urn should be the LAST soul-based objective, all the other objectives shouldnt be directly related to yoyr currency but just give you other advantages over the course of the game. Im spitballing here but:

Map Control-based:
>some camp or tower on the roof that when captured "reveals" a large area or indicates if an enemy hero is in that area
>an objective a la Heroes of the Storm that lets you recruit a creep camp after you beat them
>or a camp that buffs your own creeps in a sidelane to push
>an objective that supercharges a zipline for X amount of seconds

Hero Buff-based:
>another camp like blue and red from league that gives a hero a specific buff upon beating it
>an objective that lets you get some form of an enhanced item
>another special buff but stronger than the bridge buffs

Miscellaneous Objectives:
>an objective that activates specific map-wide events like a damaging fog sweeping through an area or an electric storm hitting roofs
>a special airship that spawn later into the game that you can destroy, it crashes down into a specific area, and you fight over its wreck
>an objective that fortifies your towers like a special ritual you can do ylto satisfy the patrons
>an objective that lets you sacrific shit to the patrons so they can cast map wide spells for your team
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>>570280314
buy Stamina early, Regen, Monster Rounds and accept that you'll get obliterated in lane so die as little as you can.
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>>570274692
turn that werewolf into a merkin
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How the fuck am I supposed to play calico?
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>>570281567
>>an objective a la Heroes of the Storm that lets you recruit a creep camp after you beat them

This best fits deadlock because the city is filled with gangs and mobsters you can hire
Goons even
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>>570276386
>>570276973
Her design is fine, her voice and voice lines seems to be in line with their recet releases aka dogshit.
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silver players unironically think they are human huh?
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>>570281848
Yeah I think Yamato's personality is the right kind of evil personality that I expected her to have. Like she just fucking insults and hates everyone in the cast except for the old dudes.

Helps that she speaks entirely in Japanese to that's + meme value.
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There should be capturable teleports on the map so you can teleport around more
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>>570281839
by adding the hero to your roster and then queueing up for a match
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>>570281969
I'm not human... I'M DA ALPHA WOLF
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>>570282025
bring back the sidelane teleports, they were funny
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>>570281334
I thought it was going to rain and instead it was cloudless.
brain hurte
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>calico's gloom bombs seem to have an internal detonation timer which is unaffected by either ability range or ability duration
I just wanted to kobe some bombs at people bros...
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>>570282330
Isn't she supposed to just be a gun spammer that moves around the map fast?
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>>570282243
bald niggas doing anything but wear a hat
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>>570282639
The shitty part is I have a hat but never use it.
Rem would be ashamed of me
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Why the FUCK is there no black man in this game?

>b-but Infernus
Hes a fucking vantablack demon.
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Hollidays ult is almost 3x the cd of silver.
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>>570282609
her gun is insanely bad, the way people make her work is spirit
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>>570282839
>Hes a fucking vantablack demon.
yea, he's black
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>>570282839
Sir?
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>>570282839
>>570283043

people will cope or but henry and savannqh are both black
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>got shit on in lane with Warden and Abrams early
>Somehow with the use of my ulti managed to pull it back like a mother fucker
When the enemy doesnt focus you, Vindicta is a fucking monster dude. I was floating in the air for like a minute straight, AND had a second charge to the fucking thing, nobody even noticed when their health was rapidly depleting.
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>>570283253
White dude VA
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>>570283353
you will face 2 Phantom Strikes, 3 Knockdowns and Billy on your next match to make up for the fun you had
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Would you draw dicks on Rem's back?
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>enemy teams silver
>1v6 rape machine wins the game by herself
>my silver
>buys healing tempo while behind
i swear the only thing keeping this hero bellow 55% WR is the fact that it attracts an unreasonable amount of retarded trannies and redditors
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I still don't understand assists. I've ripped 90% of a billy's health bar off, died in the brawl, and gotten no assists for it despite billy dying like 3 seconds after me. on the other hand, I've gotten an assist for being in the general area despite having done literally nothing because I hadn't joined the fight yet. and I'm pretty sure I once got an assist for a kill that happened two lanes away from me, out of fucking nowhere
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>>570283464
duhhh then I guess Shiv and Abrams are Asian too because their VA's are Asian

You look so silly rn
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>>570283579
jokes on you, REM was trying to focus my ass down with Knockdown and sleep and everytime he'd sleep me i'd ulti his ass.
and I dont think our billy stunned ONCE. He was my lane partner and he was abysmal, he somehow had better early game eco than me yet only had 3 tier 1 items
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>>570283679
I would write "KNOT SLUT"
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>>570284258
canon
https://files.catbox.moe/du5pwu.jpg
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>>570284058
Okay nigga but he's a fucking scientist and a uni professor. He's not black.
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>>570275586
>>570274783
could be real, I have seen the "flip coin in air and shoot at people" spammed constantly in the custom heroes forum
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>>570284437
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>>570284437
Ohhhh WOW you're ACTUALLY gonna say that?
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>>570284773
1930s New York.
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>Team is behind
>They're too scared to do urn
What exactly is their plan here? Just wait and lose I ask people who are pussies and they never give an actual plan.
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>>570283353
What build do you go on her? I can't decide between going heavy on spirit/utility or gun.
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>>570285715
blindly doing urn when behind is just a way to lose faster
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>team uses their displacement abilities to grief you
>stealing farm, tossing you into enemies
>you stop participating in the team fights
>they flame you
what the fuck did you expect to happen? lol.
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>>570277381
All m1ggers with the exception of Venator are allowed to have OP kits and have spirit damage do most of the work for them, and be good at all stages of the game, please understand.
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>>570286097
Venator is the strongest M1gger in the game though, he's the only one that's S+ tier
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>>570271727
Is Paradox good now? i haven't touched her in ages? Whats the move a carbine or bomb build?
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>>570285762
This is typically what I build, though recently i've been swapping Trophy Collector for Titanic Magazine and it's been working better.
I go heavy headshot mainly because you wanna chip the fuckers down then ulti them to finish, once you get mid game with a single good stun theres no reason to lose teamfights unless you get hyper focused down, which is the only real bad part if someone like Abrams or Warden gets in your face you kinda just die.
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>>570286510
must be crazy playing in games where no one buys knockdown
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>>570286097
>All m1ggers with the exception of Venator
Curse into ult is the only viable way to play haze in anything above pisslow
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>>570286813
Everyone buys knockdown anon, but if they focus me im going to focus them.
It's literally a game of "can I kill you before knockdown occurs" half the time and nobody worth a damn is giving up a slot for Knockdown just to kill a squishy vindicta they can kill anyways.
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>>570287025
>Haze player
You're boosted.
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What is the goddamn point of the "extra competitive mode" in the settings when half my games have zero comms in voice or text. But as soon as a losing game nears the end then all the sudden they start talking. Goddamn retards I cant even get a yes or no whether we take urn or push a lane in some of these games.
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>>570287590
extra compeittive hardly influences matchmaking, and only increases the likelihood you'll get matched with players who want their team to comm for them, not players who are necessarily looking to comm
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> Have a game earlier where my team has four feeders
> It's about 30 minutes in and we're losing badly
> Tell the idiots on my team I'd be 16-2 by now if they hadn't fed
> Get next game a few hours later
> It's 38 minutes in, we're at their patron stage 2, my team aren't paperweights but aren't great either
> I was wrong
> I'm 17-2
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>finally have free time to play deadlock
>on my fourth jack and coke
help
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>>570288202
don't queue it's shit tonight. all my wins or losses are just shit stomps. SO bad.
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>we down patreon and all egress
>enemy Ivy suddenly dies in base
>check the replay
Uhhh wut
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>buy glass cannon
>lose so much HP I actually start to "lose more" lollmao
>it would take an entire magazine of +80% damage to equal the amount of HP I lost

Why is this item so fucking shit, I swear this is a trap 99% of the time
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>>570288202
>jack
Disgusting
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you would think that in higher elos like ascendant that people would know better not to feed bebop bomb stacks or drifter stacks. you would be completely wrong. had a celeste try to 1v1 drifter the entire game, she ended with nearly 20 deaths and he had 100+ bloodscent stacks. how is this any different from alchemist
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>>570289113
well it's not jack per se since it was removed from our shelves as a response to the orange pedophile's attack on our economy but it's equally cheap whiskey.
Better that than using some 12 year reserve as mixer
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>>570277381
carries in deadlock are so absurdly powerful. the entire point is that they carry late game, only problem is they carry lane, early, and mid game too they are just good at everything all the time with 0 drawbacks. even when they're at equal soul level they're better than most of the cast. absolutely dogshit balancing but people will just handwave it away with "they're carries they're supposed to be strong" completely ignoring the complete disregard for balance
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if silver is so op, whats a good build?
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>>570289276
you would think that you would learn to fight with your team instead of just crying about what they're doing.
oh wait, you're the fucking loser afk jungling until they push your patron.
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>>570289024
>instant kill ghoul
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dont care, bebop should take 50% of the bomb damage if he is in radius
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>haze doesn't buy curse
>can't kill anyone
why are hazniggers so fucking retarded
do they not realize curse just means enemy dies in 2.2 seconds instead of 2 seconds and they can't fucking run away
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>>570289024
average deadlock experience
>enter into fight
>do literally no damage to the enemy
>somehow lose 100% of my HP and I have no idea how
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>>570289616
right its my fault my lane partner decided to give bebop 30 stacks before lane ended, or that celeste made a beeline towards drifter the moment she spawned on repeat by herself despite everyone pinging drifter and telling her to fall back. was that you? why are you so angry?
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>>570289481
trump is the womanizer. biden was the pedo sniffing the hair of children and taking showers with his granddaughter
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>>570289724
Uhhh I am a DAMAGE DEALER and curse says I deal LESS DAMAGE so obviously its not for me
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>>570289024
there are like 3 stacked on the patreon not doing anything. they turn around and gang bang her as 4 total explosions
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>>570289024
kek wtf
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>>570289786
does xhe know
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>>570289024
graves players will look you dead in the eyes and say this is okay damage numbers
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why do the ghouls also have knockup and drag you down like phantom strike? I see they have an 80% slow listed but they do a lot more than that which is not stated anywhere
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>>570289786
right, guess I'll just pull the wool over my eyes and pretend his name doesn't pop up thousands of times in Mr. Epstein's list
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>>570289481
Pretty impotent response; EU West?
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>>570289276
the difference is in the lower rank your celeste would've been brown and abandoned after dying 8~ times, just enough fed kills to make sure you lose anyway
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>>570289928
hot german women...
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>>570290004
100% sure there is someone in ""high rank"" playing celeste, is brown, probably dies 8+, just to make anyone lose.
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>>570289276
>in ascendant
that's meaningless. though YOU may be ascendant, your teammate could be a literal emissary thanks to the grouping system. thank you icefrog

https://tracklock.gg/players/794420140
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>>570289972
Euros only drink wine and german/popopolish beer
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>>570289481
Based trump saving poor europeans from drinking literal piss
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>friendly mcginis without a fail saves the enemy with her wall every time
*Growls loud, eyes flashing blood red claws scratching loudly against seat* They better freakin CUT IT OUT before I get mad....
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>>570289024
defend this, graves tards
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>>570289928
>>570289968
I'm well aware of the epstein list. are you two aware it's a nothing burger? even when the DOJ hosted the improperly redacted files (you could copy+paste them into notepad and get past the blacked out names etc.) it was still a nothing burger? show me anything actually incriminating with trump instead of circumstantial-at-best. the clinton family has way worse incriminating evidence in the files.
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>>570284437
I dunno... Sounds kinda nutty...
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>>570290519
just fly over it and snipe them vindic-tard
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>>570290039
she's a cripple and kind of a cunt thoughbeit
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>>570290683
>it's a nothing burger because the useful idiot controlled DOJ didn't commit to any investigations on orders of the accused
k
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>>570283353
playing Vin in low elo is amazing because no one will counter buy against you besides maybe one knock down. If you are actually carrying as vin in high rank games everyone will buy KD, PS etc
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What am is supposed to do as calico, just spam bombs non-stop?
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>>570289024
>>570289889 is right. If you look closely there are 3 ghouls stacked on top of eachother on the left, so when Ivy lands all three of them explode at once, killing her instantly.
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>11 people want to play the game
>they all are forced to play around doormans retarded game of catch
f-fun...
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>>570289928
>>570290039
Are vtubers worth getting into? I don't think I could listen to an American one though.
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>>570290995
>complaining about people buying items
it's as easy as dont get caught out, or focus down the actual threats.
I dont give a single fuck if Page knockdowns me, but if Warden or a heavy hitter does then im fucked.
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>>570284437
5 second google stupid zoomer nigger. fyi in-game evidence suggests the game takes place in the late 40s/early 50s
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>>570289024
>>570289889
>patreon
>patreon
The enemy PATRON, you're not shutting down their e-beggar Patreons.
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>>570291061
it's CGDCT, so yes.
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>>570290934
thanks for agreeing with me and giving me sound reasoning. if potential crimes aren't investigated then they are also nothing burgers. its the same shit when congress people are caught committing crimes and have to give testimony in front of congress and they still don't get charged or imprisoned.
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rem is in the backrooms
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>>570291829
HELP HIM GET OUT
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>>570291154
>jew york
>jew york
>literally not a professor but grok pads the list with it anyway
'k
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>>570289938
graves haters will look at this replay and then without any irony whatsoever will tell you that she was the issue here and not the lobotomite ivy
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>>570292338
deadlock is explicitly set in New York, retard
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>>570292338
>jew york
Anon...
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>>570291432
Me with my Rem
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>>570292338
>grok
>"5 second google..."
stupid nigger faggot google uses gemini
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o7 bebop
I don't really like this one
When Bebop play against me, faggots feed him 100 bomb stacks before he even leaves his lane
When I play bebop, they don't leave their fucking tower ever
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>>570271625
Have you tried not being archon?
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>>570293379
>2026
>bomb bebop
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>>570293432
Nah out of 30 games I haven't tried doing echo shard faggotry even once.
But bomb is still one of the main damage dealers in hook-punch-bomb combo. Even if you are gun/hybrid, no?
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I like the riki version of haze more than the m1gger version.
fight me.
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>>570293379
did you try hooking them?
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>>570294110
Yeah but hook cd on lvl 3 is like half a minute and it's super short.
Btw why are you using bomb before punch with spirit snatch? I think bomb hits weaker if you apply it before punching since it snapshots your stats at the moment of application no?
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>>570294937
Hook acts as punch now so it procs
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NEED art of >>570273310 correcting >>570273629
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>>570289570
Idk about them carrying early and midgame... I don't think I have seen a Wraith/Victor resist me successfully when I rape them in their jungle.
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>>570289570
Yeah it's not a thing in other mobas
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>>570285806
Lose fast or lose slow. Choose.
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>>570294937
1 and 3 both light punch.
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>having a great lane phase as Vyper with Kelvin
>picking off celeste's dives and pushing them at every corner
>our seven leaves at 11 minutes in
>find out our billy and seven fed silver 10 whole fucking times in lane phase
Fuck me for logging in I guess
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>>570284635
that's because of ultrakill (a fps game) where you can do exactly that and zoomers think it's the best thing ever and every shooter game needs that mechanic
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>>570296741
They had a collab with Palword and Palword implemented it so bad, it's pure dogshit.
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New patch, patch notes are in game but not posted on forum yet. Change list is big.
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>They buffed victor ult
holy fuck I thought it was a joke
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>doorman nerfs
NIGGERS
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>>570296127
idk when I play victor I always rape in lane its really easy idk why people say he's shit in lane they must be throwing themselves at guardian forgetting they don't have ult yet
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You lazy bums

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158
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>>570296959
>buffed
>cooldown from 230 to 240
>cooldown reduction from -120 to -110
READ NIGGA
READ
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>Holliday buffs
What a time to be alive
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>>570297329
>silver literally killed
Why? She was already mid.
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GET FUCKED SILVERNIGGERS
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>>570297329
>barely touched silver
kek are they just gonna slowly roll out nerfs so low iq silver downplayers dont notice
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158

>>570297329
sorry sis, I just sat back down.
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>>570297418
not that bad to be desu
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>>570297578
>silver literally killed
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>silver nerfs
thank god
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>>570297718
>>barely touched silver
They literally make her unplayable, worst hero in the game by far now.
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I was expecting a bigger nerf for talon.
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How significant are these seven nerfs?
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>nerf graves some more

Can we give the bitch a normal gun, make skulls just a circle damage ability like Geist, and make zombies some sort of projectile skillshot she directs around?

I'd like to play her since her character design is nice but apparently because retards can't handle pressing S she can never be playable.
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>>570297732
>Opening Rounds changed from 4 back to 7 spirit
lol and I guarantee it won't be purchased at the same rate.
>b-but it also got the gun damage nerfed
irrelevant.
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>>570297829
hahahahahahaha
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>actually op heroes barely touched
>silver nerfed to shit
Devs are literal retards.
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>jar of dead nerfed for the 3rd time in a row
JUST MELEE THE SKULLS YOU MONKEYS
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>>570297935
she didnt even deserve these nerfs, at least in high ascendant she feels really difficult to get any value compared to other characters
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SILVER FAGGOTS BTFO
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>>570297959
I'm not joking, the hero will plummet from sub 50% winrate (definitely worth nerfing lol) to sub 45% winrate.
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>>570297732
> McGinnis absolutely fucking gutted again
> Seven is now going to be an ult bot
> Silver GUTTED, health surge on ult removed
> Victor buffed for some reason, what the fuck
> Graves gutted
> Geist still not buffed
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>>570298002
>really hard to get value out of in ascendant
huh
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>>570297982
they dont listen to alchemists lil timmy
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>silversissies and gravesissies btfo
good patch
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>>570298156
>muh winrates
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>>570298258
Yeah silver was soooo op she was like 10th highest winrate in e6 so strong...
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Apollo changes look fun. Not sure if they're good but being able to recast his 1 and it being fast and having more control is probably gonna be enjoyable to do. Same with parrying while thrusting
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HOLLIDAY IS TECHIES NOW
HOLLIDAY IS TECHIES NOW
HOLLIDAY IS TECHIES NOW
HOLLIDAY IS TECHIES NOW
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>Apollo: Flawless Advance now allows Apollo to parry during it
>Calico giga buffed
>Holliday buffed
>Seven: Bullet damage growth reduced from 0.337 to 0.24
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>>570298269
dont care still playing graves
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First good patch since march.
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>I've been tracking esports tournament data (draft prio, winrate) for all of this year and over the last weeks we've had some pretty big events with lots of games. Here's some of the more interesting stuff that's come from 197 games worth of high tier Deadlock.
>- Includes Death Slam Invitational #3, Nightshift 40-42 and also the Night Shift Open. - Has open qualifiers and main events.
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>>570298484
>Calico giga buffed
she was dumpster fire before
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Worst patch in the history of the game.
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l o l o l
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>see warden has a lot of changes
>think "probably nerfs, he's quite meta right now"
>it's all buffs
Which dev is a warden main because what?
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>>570296638
>literally next game
>dominating as venator in lane
>kill tower in 5 minutes
>ally celeste abandons game
>didnt even die once they just abandon
YOSHI YOU NIGGER MAKE LEAVING MORE PUNISHING YOU FAT FUCK!!!
FUCKING TIRED OF THIS SHIT YOU FILTHY TRANNY LOVER!!!!!
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>Think about playing deadlock again
>Yoshi senses this and releases a patch
>Nerfs my main
Guess I'm not playing this shit game
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>>570298291
If she was actually hard to get value out of in highrank pubs then she wouldn't be winning so much, simple as.
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>buffing viscous
>without nerfing splatter damage
LMAOOOOO
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Nooo bros how could they nerf seven he only had a 57% win rate at E6, if anything he needs buffs.
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We're really not getting any new content until August are we?
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>>570297934
The nerf to Power Surge is pretty insignificant. Most Seven builds were buying Superior Duration and Spiritual Overflow which made Power Surge's cooldown equal to its duration. This means there's now a 2-second window, assuming he has all of those, between when it expires and when the CD ends.

The bullet nerf is kind of huge for his laning capability. On lane, he can't really use Power Surge freely so this will mean that he's significantly weaker on lane. Long-term, it doesn't mean much because all his damage is from Power Surge and stacking resist shred, not from bullets.
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>>570297732
>Ivy: Fixed a bug where Stone Form could sometimes do significantly more damage than intended
saw lots of forum posts about this. it was doing 2-3x damage sometimes.
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>>570278123
haha ohhh noooo i hope i don't have to kiss and lick them too
how embarrassing, my team is watching...
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>>570298581
>silver 59% winrate
muh auto-lose D tier hero
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>>570298649
How are you possibly reading "worse damage falloff and less flask damage" as a buff.
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one streamer is going to get nuked by lasso into 5 barrels and this patch will be reverted within several days
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>silver needed buffs, but she got nerfs because... MUH ESPORTS!
Balancing according to the whims of an incestuous clique of autists is never a good strategy if the health of the game is of your concern.
This game will not be a success.
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>>570298817
>so this will mean that he's significantly weaker on lane.
can they do this to the rest of the hypercarries now
>>570298963
nta but to be fair they did buff the hell out of ult which may be pretty good for urn fights/mid contest/etc
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>>570299185
Cope. She was too strong and the devs agreed. Your emissary 2 opinion is irrelevant.
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>spectating random Ivy games to learn
>the player is always based
best hero
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if ult warden is back then im climbing to eternus 6
im the best warden in the game and honestly gun warden is just BORING
he was at his most FUN when his ult was GIGA deadly. Cuck cage is fun too but its not super strong.
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>>570299261
She was mid and the stats agree. Devs listening to autistic niggers with an agenda instead of stats will kill the game.
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>>570298817
The bullet nerf is boon growth not base, at 10 boons you're losing less than a single damage per bullet.
Unless your lanes are running really fucking long it'll be barely noticeable.
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Hollisisters we are back...
we gotta enjoy the stun for a week before it gets reverted
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>>570297329
>>570297732
>healing on reset just removed
Fully upgrading ult is actually detrimental now
So T3 1 is garbage, T3 3 has always been mid, and now ult T3 is out of the question
Guess I'm back to rushing 2 max
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>>570299358
cage nuke build could 1 shot people in march before they started fucking with the spirit & health investments and completely changed the pace and powerscaling of the game. good times
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>silver gets a 30 second cd nerf
>they lose their minds
whats wrong with them? Do they need to be handheld even more?
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>>570297732
>Warden: Bullet falloff reduced from 20m->58m to 18m->47m

based. it's now Geist gun instead of, well, lots of people have 20-58 actually. and most of these are close range heroes... actually, nerf more gun ranges.
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>>570299450
Are we?
The barrel knockup guaranteed the lasso for aimlets
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>gunshit still meta
Won't be touching the game still.
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>Doorman: Call Bell explosion damage spirit scaling reduced from 1.3 to 1.2
>Doorman: Call Bell T3 spirit scaling reduced from 0.4 to 0.35
Is this character even allowed to exist, man. You might as well just rename him Man at this point.
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>>570299837
>I'll only deal 45k player damage in a match instead of 55k
You're so brave for facing this adversity
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>>570293796
bebop isnt a dps. his whole thing is hooking someone so they can get raped
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>>570299734
or sorted another way, it looks like this.
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>Paige: Rallying Charge distance for max amp reduced from 350m to 250m
>Paige: Rallying Charge T2 increased from -30s Cooldown to -50s
>Paige: Plot Armor barrier spirit scaling increased from 1.3 to 1.5
>Paige: Plot Armor T3 barrier spirit scaling increased from +0.3 to +0.5
Paigesissies we got BUFFS...
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not a fan of warden but surprised to see him get nuked

and is seven's gun really what needed to be nerfed?
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>>570298148
>McGinnis absolutely fucking gutted
I'm a mcpennis spammer and she seems fine?
ult damage was so absurd this 1.5dps seems inconsequential, the turrets are a nerf sure but it's not like they were a good source of damage early

she was op and needed the nerf, but still will be strong. Might just start going all-in on the ult upgrades again
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>>570300151
didn't read, post more Paige.
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>calico gigabuffs
somehow, the negress returned
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>>570300151
Paige isn't a librarian, she's banned from the NYPL system for almost burning down the big one.
>tfw no librarian hero named Brooke who is very stern and makes people seethe cuz she can steal people's bags (Late Fees) and has an aoe silence (Shush)
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will this increase the holliday pick rate?
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>>570299793
gun will literally always be meta forever its got better items, it actually scales, reloads are a fraction of the time of cooldowns its just a better investment 90% of the time. hell even the best spirit items synergize better with gun or buff m1gger free extra spirit damage abilities more than they help spirit focused builds. its just never changing you have to embrace it or die
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Silver is over
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>Haven't played Apollo since he was nerfed
>try him after this patch
>riposte no longer lets you escape
>you can't riposte objectives
They raped my boy
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>>570298649
gun is worse, t3 root is worse, flask is worse, everything he built around is worse. Ult builds were awful compared to his gun and this isn't going to make ult better than gun
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>>570300508
its just an ult cd increase lol, a literal nothing burger
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Doesn't putting a stun on bounce pad make holliday ult giga easy to hit?
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>>570299761
you have the stun now
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>Pocket: Affliction now does half damage on objectives
interesting
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Magic carpet Holliday... think about it...
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>>570299269
Thank fucking christ now maybe she can get some solo kills with the lasso
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>>570300698
she probably needs the help.
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SEVEN NERFS WITH 37% IN PRO GAMES AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA FUCK YOU ICEFROG
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>place down 5 barrels
>rope enemy into them
>hit them for 10x spirit
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>>570301064
>pro games
nigger first of all these aren't "pros" they are just faggots who clocked >2000h into this game
second of all, even if we were to assume that these people are the best of the best highest level of play, they do not play nearly enough games to give you any reasonable sample, that's 37%WR out of how many games?
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>>570301064
nigger has been 56% winrate for months in all ranks including eternus
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>>570301165
Holliday is Demoman now
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Just got assraped by Holliday
Revert asap please
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i should play my state mandated standard queue games soon.....
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>>570301318
>your CUMMING with me!
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>>570301318
holiday should never ever be viable
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never complain about victor again
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>>570301426
They didnt do anything to him AGAIN lmfao
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So gun Holliday is giga troll now right?
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>Warden: Bullet falloff reduced from 20m->58m to 18m->47m

What the actual fuck why are they trying to make the shooting in this game insufferable? Just add fucking melee weapons already
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>>570301132
>>570301165
eh close enough
welcome back
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Holligay is dishonest
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>>570300508
And people in here said the hero didn't get nerfed that hard lmao genuinely the worst hero in the game.
Who would've known that if you remove the one thing the hero was balanced around without giving it anything else as compensation it becomes worthless?
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>My honest cowboy who i get every game will now be a contested meta-pick
sad
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>>570299308
>ivy player
>based
You can only pick one anon
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>>570301426
oh no he now has to... stand closer to you! (he was already raping you in melee range)
and you will have a whopping 10 more seconds!!! before his ult is up again!
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sevenGODS... why do they oppress us so..?
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>>570301719
they hate his honesty
seven has to WORK for every play he makes
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>>570297732
Its genuinely very rare that i read patch notes for this game and go "wait, why?", but its happening with these Graves nerfs. Why nerf her again? Hello? She already was feeling like shit to play. I genuinely do not understand
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>>570301502
crackshot scales with spirit so if you have aim ricochet is still mandatory, you get 300+ damage headshots for every single shot without even needing any other gun investments
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>silver is ultimately proven to be a S+ broken champ instead of the shitty F- tier Silverfags insist she is
>gutted by nerfs as she deserves
Oh no no no no no noooo Silverbabs your babymode champ...
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Keep nerfing my character you fucking nigger. Not stopping me.
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>Nerfing Seven gun DPS
Get ready for more lightning scroll ultbot Sevens
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>ANOTHER fucking key jingling patch

IMGL GOING FUCKING INSANE
WHERE IS THE MAJOR UPDATE
6 HEROES
POLISHED MAP
REVAMPED JUNGLE
PVE MODE
NEW OBJECTIVE
YAMATO SEEEEEEEEEX
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>>570301805
3rd best pub winrate in the game at eternus.
Best winrate overall at all ranks.
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Why does it count as a loss when my nigger teamates abandon the game in lane phase?
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MY LEGS ARE BROKEN!
MY KNEECAPS ARE STOLEN!
I'M FOREVER BOUND TO A CHAAAAAAIR!
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>>570301920
August ;)
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>>570301858
you WILL build ult and become the urn winner of the team
yoshi demands it
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>>570302104
Imagine Graves changing his diaper
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>>570302045
>play with premade
>things start going badly
>designated quitter quits
>game is forfeit and everyone else leaves
>only one took a hit to his rank while others didn't
>next time another guy in your premade is the designated quitter
>overall positive rank gain among your group
This is why
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>doorman bell nerfed again
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>>570301837
she's gonna be permanently strong in shitlow as long as echo shard jar is a thing. her jar has eaten THREE damage nerfs in a row and it's still gaping pubbies
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HOLLIDAY IS NO LONGER HONEST

STOP PICKING THIS DOGSHIT TECHIES HERO

FUUUUCK YOU YOSHIT
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>>570302217
He WILL be an ebin ultbot for EBIN pro plays whether your like it or not
No he's NOT allowed to be a burst mage
No he's NOT allowed to make creative macro plays with doors
No he's NOT allowed to be a crowd control hero with his cart
You're ONLY allowed ONE funny kidnap cart play PER MATCH, as a treat
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>>570302217
I think this is like the 8th patch in a row where he gets nerfed
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>>570302340
She was always dishonest.
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>>570301858
Can he still carry like that?
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>>570301064
>Pro games
Nobody cares about the same 4 teams fighting each other
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>>570302448
If you're always present during urns as the designated win-urn-inator 3000, yes
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>>570291223
jump on my patreon for the GOODS
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they just gotta start from scratch with holliday at this point
looney tunes ass kit
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>>570297732
So many of these changes are just retarded.
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>>570302378
and as long as this hero will have a combo on a basic spell+6400 item that is impossible to miss and works better than Holliday's ult he will keep being fucking picked
I like his concept but he desperately needs a rework, you can't keep a hero with such a nigger playstyle in the game
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im white
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>>570302761
just cuck bell radius so it's not the size of the lane after minute 8
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>>570302797
why would you admit something like that?
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>>570302761
>impossible to miss
Lmao no
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>>570302761
Do people just not buy spellbreaker?
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>>570302797
prove it
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ult warden MIGHT be back
i wish the game went on long enough for lightning scroll
i havent played warden in ages so i died al ot like a friggin noob but the damage is there
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>>570302551
What if he hasn't farmed enough
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>>570301858
>lightning scroll ultbot Seven
This isn't a troll build ngl. I'd still hit 4.8k gun spike (cultist sac for easier farming and obj melting and fleetfoot for easier escapes) then go full spirit. Lightning scroll and infuser and escalating exposure and duration extender = free urns
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>start playing silver
>hero gets removed from the game
What hero do you want removed next from the game? I was thinking of maining Seven next so he finally gets nerfed.
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>>570302761
This kind of post is such a shitlow self report, because genuinely nobody gives a shit about kidnap doorman. Its a shit build with a horrible winrate. He's getting nerfed for every single other way to play him that is not that trash, matter of fact the hero would have a way higher win% if people stopped trying to make that shit work
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So they're really just going to keep the 8 second door bullshit on Doorman?
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- Seven: Storm Cloud now hits breakables
Let's just say... you know exactly where I'll be at 10:00.
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>>570301805
>why nerf the 55% win rate hero?
gee, I wonder?
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>>570303005
the damage was always there, the ult cd + especially duration were just bad, if you did ult build you were not even a character for 99% of the match
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>another lazy lever pulling patch
ok now lets never address the root problem of anything. sweet nice dude.
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>urn nerfed again
people are still going to obsess over it more than they should.
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>>570303389
All they have to do is remove guns entirely from the game. But they don't have the balls to do that.
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>>570303005
I have no clue why they decided to buff his ult with the shitshow urn BROOL meta that we are in at the moment
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>>570303389
what should the patch have been instead?
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>>570303407
>Enemy team gets full rejuv
>They go do urn
>GUYS LETS ALL FIGHT THEM AT THE URN SPOT AND LOSE AND CEMENT THEIR ADVANTAGE EVEN HARDER
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>>570303518
Would you rather get slowly whittled down at the base? Urn is your last chance to come back.
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>gun Talon gets a slap on the wrist with zero meaningful changes
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>>570303430
just go play Smite or some other dogshit video game instead of trying to make this one bad?
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>>570303647
Deadlock WISHES it was Smite.
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>>570303639
BRO HIS GUN DAMAGE GOT REDUCED BY 1% HES FUCKING DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>570303647
fuck off zoomzoom
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>>570297732
WHERE ARE MY MINA BUFFS YOSHI!!!
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>>570303714
>Smite 2 selling out this hard for a crumb of relevance
lol
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>been going through all hero challenge
>getting down to the last few
>Victor Graves and Silver just got whacked with the nerf bat right before I get to play them
Thanks Yoshi...
At least Apollo got buffed
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Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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Oh cool, McGinnis got a buff in the form of a bug fix and barely anything else changed. Time to continue bombing the shit out of players.
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they nerfed seven's gun? how am i supposed to do my cooldown, duration,cultist, EE,Unstop, Infuser, lightning scroll and Boundless build now
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>>570303837
The Victor nerf is a slap on the wrist, though.
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- Ivy: Fixed a bug where Stone Form could sometimes do significantly more damage than intended

what was this? lol
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>Learning Pocket
>Game currently is not looking good
>Sidelane and splitpush as much as I can and play like a complete rat
>Enemies keep trying to chase and kill me as my team gets objectives on the opposite side of the map
>Lash and Ven on the enemy team call me a pussy in all chat
>Curse and silence on their side as they try to focus me during fights.
>Win every fight mid-late game because the retards hard focused me even though I'm not even the biggest threat
Kek. Funniest game I had in ages. Get frogged.
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>>570303647
cmon man rain of arrows got 1 more second of cooldown its basically useless now
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>>570304014
search the bug report forums, it was doing 2-3x sometimes.
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>>570303963
Yeah but I already lost 3 games in a row with him so I know he's going to be difficult for me to wrap my head around
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>>570303837
Theyre still braindead
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>>570304198
dunno what the fuck was causing that cause I spam ivy and never witnessed this. russian niggers abusing exploits as usual I guess.
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>Holliday: Powder Keg now has an alt cast behavior to place the barrel at her feet
hehehe...SOON.
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If you play holliday you should be castrated
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>>570304331
case in point
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>>570304358
She's Techies now
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>>570303714
Oily ass skin
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>>570304420
Don't worry they already are.
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>>570304591
oh yeah? well, how about Haze v. Holliday v.2.0.
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>>570303517
Stop plastering over dysfunctional unpolished content by pulling random knobs on stats and properly finalize how the content functions to begin with. Have some fucking forethought before wanking out another patch to fix later pushing a clean solution farther and farther away. Know when to polish knobs and when the content doesn't work i.e. whatever stupidity is happening with Apollo.
>>570303430
>removing guns in a shooter moba
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>>570304807
did u know this is a closed alpha test
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>>570304807
>dysfunctional unpolished content by pulling random knobs on stats and properly finalize how the content functions to begin with
what do you think any of this means? you just posted a word salad, acknowledged that they're tweaking how Apollo functions, ignoring that they're tweaking how Holliday functions, and being a faggot.
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IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD!
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>you're allowed spectate the enemy team in street brawl because the enemy hero slots occupy what would've been your two missing team mates
HOLY JEET CODE
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>>570280314
Abrams and Mo are two of the worst characters to combo in lane. Not only does their lane just suck but they're both characters that exclusively exist to set up their teammates damage in the early stages of the match.Abrams or Mo should've swapped with mina or mirage.
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humiliation ritual
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NEVER SHOW FEAR, NO MATTER THE ODDS
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What's with Drifters that don't buy Burst Fire?
Those guys suck consistently
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Yoshi NEEDS to stop listening to players who are in shitlow and just use eternus+ winrates to justify why their horrible opinions on game balance are valid. Let a patch sit for a few weeks and stop hotfixing because of redditors citing a third party API scraper.
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>>570306028
No ff though
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>paige ult has pretty high skill ceiling
>almost no paige player uses it properly because they are e kitten discord girls
it's my time to shine
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How long until they revert these idiotic silver nerfs?
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>>570306347
Don't worry silverxister, you will persevere in these tough times just as the LGBTQIA+ community has
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>>570306384
>paige ult has pretty high skill ceiling
said no one ever
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>>570306432
*snipes you from across the map and heals my entire team during the team fight faster than any rem ever could*
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>silver finally got shitcanned
Silvertrannies won...
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>>570297991
disingenuous graves nigger
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>>570306510
Yeh every paige does that, it's not hard at all.
It's like saying geist bomb has a high skill ceiling.
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>>570306630
ok lil bro lets see your clip where you do that
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>>570298696
>viscous gets 60% lifesteal on melee
>abrams get 18%
I will literally never stop downplaying my bligger he needs buffs yoshi and you fucking know it. Fix melee already.
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>>570306426
Gravesxister, actually.
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>>570306432
>>570306630
M1gger seethe lmao.
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>>570300397
We're probably not getting an actual librarian character since paige exists even though she's some sort of kindergarten storyteller (but magic)
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>>570306941
And here I thought my sympathy couldn't get any lower. Sorry xister I love beating up highschoolers for their lunch money
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>start playing power surge max sharpshooter seven
>gun damage raping not even a week later
me and my luck
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deadlock players as a community of sentient human beings need to do some serious soul searching to try to understand why graves's skulls being better at tracking turned her into mechahitler whose winrate has remained 55% minimum despite catching 3 significant damage nerfs
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>play 6 games today
>4 games have a leaver on my team
Why
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WHY THE FUCK CANT I POWER SLASH GRAVE SKULLS, WHY, YOSHI YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>570307523
>I pick graves
>press a few buttons
>afk while watching youtube on my single screen fullscreened occasionally alt tabbing to press more buttons
>win
It's really that simple
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>>570307523
the damage isn't even the issue it's the fact that she can horde 40 skulls pop heroic aura and delete your health before you can humanly react, also her ult is really gay because haha just melee it bro means nothing when you have to lose half your health to the zombies that spawn and insta explode while you're trying to destroy it. Everything in her kit is a completely 1 sided interaction and I can't wait for geist to get the rope next with her press 4 to win button.
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>>570307293
another one for the collection.
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How is it possible to do 10k damage as venator
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>>570307641
>my boosted nigger hero needs to be even more op
eat shit
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holy fuck the -2 duration on seven feels like shit actually
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I love wasting my time shooting balls in the air before riding my snow cone around the map and head shotting some degenerate kid with my grenade ability.
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Argentinians are god damn subhumans, why are they populating my game. Is it because overwatch/rivals/valorant? They dont play dota

I would take a peruvian or brazilian all day but argentinians arent human.
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>>570307898
before I clicked I was gonna assume he died 9 times and had like 18k obj damage but what the fuck lol
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>>570308245
free game = third world
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>>570307991
m1ggers getting what they fucking deserve
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>>570308314
Dont be mean to americanbros.
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>Assassinate Max Bonus Damage spirit scaling increased from 1.7 to 2.0
Not really the help she needed, also fairly confident this is a mistake as it will allow 600+ damage snipes in lane.
Oh well, at least it's SOME incentive to build spirit/snipe vin again.
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>>570307830
>the damage isn't even the issue it's the fact that she can horde 40 skulls pop heroic aura and delete your health before you can humanly react
she could always do this, and much much better before her skulls caught like 40% damage nerfs. echo shard/heroic aren't new items, if anything this strategy is weaker now than it was before the 5-22 patch that inexplicably turned her into a gigaoverpowered perma 60% wr character
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I have 4 loses in a row and they all had an abandon in my team? Did they put me on low priority or something? I am not a saint but I am not that toxic. I have never left a game either.
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>>570307523
There's nothing to understand, better tracking is a massive direct buff to damage because any situation where they fail to track(used to happen all the fucking time) is a time where they're dealing 0 damage.
The balancing problem comes from the fact that that difference in tracking is hard to preemptively quantify so they've had to repeatedly nerf>check real match effectiveness>nerf again until they get it right.
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>>570303005
fucking around more with ult warden
maxing flask then ult
it does feel better but it doesnt feel like warden did 2 years ago
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>>570308504
interesting you say that, last month i had 4 abandons in a row as well (3 on my team 1 on enemy team) then the next day it was back to normal and been normal since
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>>570308487
>she could always do this
yes and that is the FUCKING PROBLEM
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Holliday is the Sukamon of deadlock, just small buff behind small buff until she reaches tier 0 status and they have to gut her to irrelevancy for the next 2 years.
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>Holliday is super strong right now
I'm going to have nightmares of Holliday now.
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They need to buff Mo & Krill. This buff was promised to me 3000 years ago (3 days ago)
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>>570308535
it sounds like to me people just never had to think about killing the skulls because they could just walk away and the tracking would break, but now that they can't do that they're getting farmed. what does it say about the collective intelligence of this playerbase that tweaking her skulls so they actually follow people outside a 2 meter radius made her OP for 3 straight weeks despite catching several significant damage nerfs?
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>McGinnis nerfed
>Graves nerfed
>Silver nerfed
>Victor nerfed
Will we finally have a brief moment of respite in this quiet earth?
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>>570308392
we're talking about the slavs
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>>570297329
>>570297732
>Seven: Bullet damage growth reduced
fuck you
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new Holliday barrels are WAY too fast.
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>>570308893
victor is the same
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I was literally just thinking to myself about Holliday and how underwhelming her barrels are and the way you can launch them
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>>570308893
>he doesn't know about techies holliday
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>>570308893
>mcginnis nerfed
Oh my god, -1.5% DPS on her ult, oh my god, she's unplayable! Oooooh and worse yet, her ult got a bug fix! How could they do this!
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>>570297732
im never going to get holliday now am i...fucking dammit
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>haze untouched
>wraith untouched
okaayyyyy...
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>>570309756
Dude I hoped for some buffs too
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is it possible to climb to eternus solo queueing gun drifter? started at initiate and am now at oracle
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how did seven get nerfed?
i thought he was protected because the esports fags didn't pick him?
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Wow they took almost all the skill of hitting barrels away from Holliday now its just a projectile you dont even have to jump first to aim them just press one and look in their direction
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What is this?
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>>570308893
>Calico buffed
No.
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>>570310153
throw build
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>>570310153
>t. I peaked in Phantom
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You know one of the biggest criticisms I have of this game is that like 95% of the roster are mindnumbingly easy to play and the only skill expression actually comes from movement and aiming instead of the actual fun shit like interesting or innovative abilities.
So you can only imagine my immense disappointment when Holliday, one of the heroes part of the small 5%, was quickly changed so that her barrels are the most retard-proof thing in the game now.
Why are the people behind this game so afraid to make actually cool heroes.
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>>570310282
Sir? It's top daily build though
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>>570310153
I never liked his builds, does anyone actually use that one? I have never seen ANYONE use spellslinger on Haze
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>>570310153
>use OOC regen between waves
>no items with OOC regen in the category
What did they mean by this?
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>>570310493
Yeah I didnt play a full match yet but they made Holliday's barrels retarded now she's probably going to be played for the spam potential and then summarily nerfed into oblivion they're turning this game into just a brainless shooter desu
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>>570310493
>warden and seven, both already babbymode chars, turned into ultbots, the ultimate babby playstyle
>paige, babby character, gigabuffed
>pocket and haze still stuck in babbymode ultbot pit
>calico's new gloom bomb melee shred stacks with echo shard. get ready for babbymode one punch man builds
at least they're fixing graves and mcginnis bit by bit
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>>570310516
so are tracklock ones
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>>570297732
Haven't played in months and was considering reinstalling, glad I saw this first
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silver got fucked up again lmao
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>>570310153
>heroic aura
huh?
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>Holliday: Powder Keg various improvements to the launch angels
I'm testing her right now and there are no angels showing up on my end, what's going on?
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>>570310153
im phantom why is this bad (genuine)
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Apollo chads are we back?
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>wanted to try out Billy for the first time
>accidentally queued standard thinking it's a street brawl
>literally just pushed buttons like a chimp
>MVP
And you people shit on Graves for being OP, what the fuck.
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>>570310153
why do people build healing tempo on hard carries? Why not have your support build it?
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>>570311764
>Max 3 and 1
>Buy stamina mastery
>Become the bane of both fliers and movementlets alike
Not an Apollo player, but I might start playing him more
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>>570311593
The idea is to build up spellslinger with the help of active spam and heroic aura gives you firerate so it On Paper it's a lot of dps.
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>>570310493
Wow they actually ruined holiday with these changes what the fuck.
>literally standing infront of the pillar in hideout throwing a barrel and it magnetizes to the Abrams
Nice job icefraud!
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>>570312348
I'll try it honestly. Though that shit is 1000% botted since I have literally never seen a Haze build spellslinger in 2k games.
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>>570312445
She's going to be meta and then get absolutely ruined happened to Graves happened to a few other characters already and now her sucks maybe with the graves nerfs i can go back to her
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please someone release a more fun f2p game so i can leave
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>>570312629
the ghost of stan lee reaches towards your head and whispers something in chinese..
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>>570312773
rivals eomm is cancer
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>>570311939
The fact that he dodged nerfs and nobody seems to care proves to me further that this game's playerbase is just really bad and stupid. Devs need to stop releasing panic balance patches until all the newfags who got into the game like 5 months ago have had some time to actually learn to play.
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>>570312542
I don't think the build is good, mind you
>boundless and echo shard in the damage section instead of hidden in a meme corner
>siphon + healing tempo for 12k of firerate instead of getting crippling upgraded first
>having curse not be higher up luring retards to not buy it
>fucking rapid recharge as if you need it
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can you imagine waking up and suddenly seeing that your favorite hero is now dishonest? why the fuck did icetoad gigabuff holliday?
I can't fucking play her anymore fuck you icefraud
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hmmm yeah not playing until they nerf holliday
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Holliday status?
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They must have changed Ranking again cause I went from Ascendant to Oracle
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>>570310493
Barrels feel so jank now with quick cast
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>My lane partner complains I am useless in lane
>Check post game stats I did 5k damage in 10 minutes he did 1,5k I also received triple the damage
>I get hardcore flamed by my Venator for picking Urn when we picked Reju which is like the first objective you should take with Reju
I was literally 15-0 and I am getting flamed by 3 teammates, holy fucking shit.
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FUCK NOOOOOO NOW HOLLIDAY IS HATED BY EVERYONE FUCK YOU ALL I WAS THERE WHEN SHE WAS SHIT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END FUCK YOU ASSHOLES I KNOW HOW YAMATO PLAYERS FEEL NOW
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>>570313494
>NOW
If you can aim with her I'm reporting you for hacking.
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>>570313278
Used to be one of the few honest heroes. Now joins the rest of the roster as dishonest.
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>>570313620
I started the Crackshot build movement you fucking chud no matter how many losses...i never gave up on it
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Feels good to be a VenatorGAWD, the most honest of heroes
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>mfw i realize that screenshot redditors are spamming of graves being top 3 winrate in eternus is from statlocker which defaults to showing stats since the 5/22 patch (which is inflated from when she was ultra OP)
>check winrate from the past 3 days and she's barely at 51%
Holy fucking retarded niggers. This might actually be the stupidest playerbase of any online game on the market right now.
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>>570312903
He doesn't even max ult, the idea is to max smoke screen and use it to remove debuffs and get 40% lifesteal
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>>570313805
>This might actually be the stupidest playerbase of any online game on the market right now.
im starting to think that as well and I play DBD look i know okay people dont think for themselves they buy L > R you tell them "hey haze is murdering you maybe buy metal skin or warpstone or literally anything" instead they buy tankbuster becausae build said so they dont look at the minimap while farming jungles the thing that covers like 30% of the screen they dont know hero mechanics and instead of learning about them they bitch until they get nerfed
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>>570313805
your response now, retard?
(stop using that dogshit website)
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>>570313649
Holliday always had a dishonest kit, it was just undertuned so noone cared.
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>>570313941
I know that website is dogshit, that's what I'm complaining about. It defaults to showing winrates from the last major patch and you have to expand the dropdown to pick a more specific timeframe and analyze win/pickrates based on the most recent minor balance patches. Your screenshot is proving my point.
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>holliday is so bad guys!!! look at her winrate!!! please gigabuff her yoshi!!!
>v-venator? who has a worse winrate?? no you can't buff him he's S+++ tier he's the best m1 hero in the entire game!!!
hang all winratefags they are unironically ruining the game. yes yoshi please make this niche character totally braindead busted because uhhh winrates or some shit idk lol
might as well give ven his 1 shot back right guys I mean the winrates don't lie do they?
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>>570314128
gonna cry?
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>>570314128
i dont know who asked for holliday buffs because of her winrate i asked for holliday buffs because she feels like total ass to play sometimes and her kit makes no sense
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>>570298509
POST THE REST
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>>570314185
I accept your concession.
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>>570314310
what concession? what was i arguing?
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>>570314282
theres none sadly
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>>570314128
i never asked for holliday buffs, in fact i used to ban her because shes just annoying to play agaisnt.
more annoying than graves, victor, whoever else you can name
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>>570313694
>I started the Crackshot build movement
bet you didn't even buy cdr or ricochet for her lmao
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>>570314403
God damn it
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>>570314282
https://x.com/RyuukusnpaiartS
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>don't catch waves
>don't push walkers
>don't farm jungle
>don't invade their jungle
>don't get kills
>don't defend walkers
>don't grab urn
>don't contest urn
>don't get mid boss after 2 picks after 20 minutes
genuinely concerned about my Ascendant games. they are extremely lopsided and these people wander around like headless chickens with 6 hours of play time. they don't listen to my pings or comms either.
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>>570298509
why is Lilah's silvers so big?
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>>570314517
Stop with your heinous accusations
>>570271625
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>>570313494
this patch confirms how horrible the devs are, everyone thought she's getting a massive rework and that's why she wasnt changed in march just for them to buff her the laziest way into S tier
im uninstalling this dogshit game, instead of leaning into her being a movement lasso support she's aoe slop. If you want her to be a damage char just rework her as a proper cowboy
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Gun is STILL overtuned I see.
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>>570314718
bye
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>>570314601
woah...
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>>570314648
Graves' decrees are way too large too
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>another shiv nerf
why does yoshi despise yoshi so much
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>>570271625
>not even top damage
>0 objective damage
deserved loss.
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>>570314601
There is still a god and he is still good
Bless you anon
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>>570314862
that wasn't the point though
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>>570314805
ain't Graves a Jew? it makes sense for her to have huge ghouls
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>get one of the shrines
>enemies are about to respawn
>FALL BACK
>2 retards stay and try to kill another shrine
>they die
>enemies kill mid boss and win the game
Familiar situation?
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>>570299269
HOLY FUCKING SKILL REMOVAL
This game is really catering to all the mega casuals, I never want to see retards compare this game to GunZ or say that it's hard in general
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>rem healing not nerfed
N
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>>570315091
>rem healing not nerfed
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>>570314356
what are you saying?
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>>570314680
yeah it's you, you never bought cdr before, anyway titanic mag is only worth it for pure gun/crackshot build which is throwing now, for hybrid if you need ammo just go kdash, but really rico+spellslinger+recharging rush are all you need for gun items now
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>>570310493
how is having purposely bad or obtuse controls making heroes cooler?
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>>570315149
good morning saar!
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>>570314965
When she's older maybe. She also might be malnourished or something.
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>Shiv: Killing Blow now has +30% more cooldown whenever it does not execute a player
YER (not) DEAD
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will we see mikaels holliday kino before she gets completely removed from the game y/n
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>>570314965
>>570315268
Apollo needs to impregnate her first though.
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>>570315352
apollo cant get it up
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>>570297732
OH, GOD, NOT AGAIN
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Silver waifu shitters completely blown out.
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>>570298696
It doesn't matter because Viscous still wants to go splatter > cube. Puddle punch does no damage so 60% lifesteal won't heal very much and the 10% extra resists on ult will only make it take like a second longer to kill, outside of the handful of people who actually run ball Viscous
However in a month Valve will finally get tired of people complaining about splatter, gut its damage, and buff puddle punch to compensate and Viscous will suddenly be chunking people and healing half his HP at the same time and they'll rush to nerf him leaving him a throw pick for another month before they make some other retarded change to the hero.
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If you heavy melee your own walker it should trigger the "need help on <lane>" line.
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>>570315558
>Silver waifu shitters completely blown out.
Guess again
Jobber kino's finally back on the menu
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>>570315348
I predict he won't like the braindead barrel changes. But he might like stomp stun.
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Silver obliteration will continue until she is naught but dust
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AIIIEEEEE THE NERFS ONLY MADE HER STRONGER! DO SOMETHING YOSHI!
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>>570315770
uh-oh. don't tell >>570315558 or >>570315717.
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>>570315770
We need more nerfs
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Okay Holliday is an actual menace, you got what you wanted Holliday sisters, enjoy your hero for the next 2 weeks because you are back to the gutter soon.
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>The DI on Sigil now
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
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>>570315770
is Seven the most honest hero? his stun even takes a few seconds to work, he gives you enough time to move away from your teammates so they won't get stunned
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>>570315770
My scrappy underdog jobber wife only bites back harder when she's nerfed
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>>570273310
Built to give pecjobs
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>graves wr 46% in e6 (the only elo that matters)
>still catching nerfs
fuck you yoshinigger stop reading reddit for balance patch ideas
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>>570297732
good, that little bitch is good for one thing and one thing only
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lol
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>>570317175
ywnbj, weeb
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>>570297732
honestly, perfect Silver nerf.
low ranks won't notice it because they can't trigger the ult or get kills during ult to extend it, and the low cd and resets is the whole reason it's OP in E6.
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>>570315327
Just remove him from the game at this point, they make him more of a throw pick every time.
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>>570317175
This hero is going to be absolute cancer for like a week before it gets gutted
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>>570316623
Not low enough
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So literally why did they nerf Shiv AGAIN? What is the reasoning?
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>>570317467
yeah but not because of a useless bug like that desu
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>>570317519
I don't like this gif
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>>570316623
they should've nerfed this bitch more.
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>>570317491
>best overall tank with one of the highest movement-slop ceilings gets a reasonable nerf
it is a mystery...
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>>570317585
How do you think the pig feels
They woke him up from his nap
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>>570315770
aieeee!
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>>570317585
I have others if you prefer
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>>570317491
cause people were using his ult as a dash and not its intended function as an execute
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>- Silver: Lycan Curse cooldown increased from 40s to 70s
>- Silver: Lycan Curse T3 no longer heals
Silver is fucking dead lmao. You can no longer brool on her. She's a pure assassin now.
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>more doorman nerfs
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>>570317991
All this because shitlow cannot into disarming hex and metal skin
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>>570317991
>Still has huge resists on wolf form, a heal going into it, and lifesteal on wolf form 1
No she can brool still don't worry
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>Rem avoiding nerfs because he's simply perfect as is
Builds for this feel?
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>>570318317
Melee Rem
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>>570317945
The hitbox of that dogshit ult is so clunky even if you try to use it as its intended purpose you will miss lmao
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>>570316282
Most honest would go to Venator, though Seven is still pretty honest despite being incredibly powerful.
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>>570318317
100% tag along focused build
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wardens dinner
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Silver still needs nerfs unironically
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>>570317491
Because one or two players in the competitive scene (which is made up of five teams, by the way) are good at exploiting a movement bug, so everything about him is balanced around that. It's why they even thought it was okay for the hero to have two stamina bars a while back.
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>>570297732
Jungle fever bros we are eating good.
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>>570318482
??????? the hitbox on it is the size of a truck and plows through units not in the cull range so he can always reach the low health target.
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>best assasin
haze/calico
>best carry
wraith
>best sup
rem

BLACK WOMEN RISE UP
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>High prio Rem
>Have Billy, Abrams and Venator porn on my second monitor
>Take a swig of a drink
I'm thinking it's peak Deadlocking hours
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>>570318675
AGP coded image
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>>570318717
We're just missing a Nigfernus buff, then we'd be back to the March "all the negro characters are OP" period
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shiv is the main character btw thats why they keep nerfing him
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Shiv is honest
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i asked yoshi to let me place 3 bombs and make enemy infernus chase me, in a dream
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>>570318597
was dota 2 also like this?
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>>570318862
that makes it hotter
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>>570318940
It's impossible to hate Infernus, he's been one of the best designs in the game since the Uncle Dane leak.
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First game on nuHolliday and raped a drifter so bad he left before 10
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>nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf
>has your number
>doesnt give up
>low winrate doesnt even do that well in pro play
>still smiles
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>>570318597
They should just remove the shotgun blast thing. It makes shiv impossible to balance. It's gay as hell anyway.
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we're buddies!
i hug you!
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meanwhile mo and krill just chilling
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Its over...
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>>570319479
Stop playing my character.
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>>570318597
>>570319362
Just make the M2 behave intuitively
>you need to aim at 90° of your speed vector
>you need to shoot before walljumping for a boost which makes it a tiny window
Same thing with Venator's boomstick btw. Fix those so there's still techs to learn but you don't need to watch a fucking youtube video of a nasal voiced faggot and it instead becomes intuitive.
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Just gooned to Silver instant loss
Hero/build for this feel?
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>>570319704
Share with the class?
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>Pull back!
>Stick together!
>No.
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>>570317219
He probably ripped it from the とうでもいいデッドロック account
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>22:41
victor and wraith get caught out of position. Not going to blame them since everyone makes mistakes. At this point, the game was even.
>22:45
enemy team does mid boss while their rem runs the urn
>23:15
enemy team deposits urn
>24:00
enemy team gets urn again
>24:30
enemy team deposits urn

within 2 minutes the enemy team got +25k souls and 3 rejuvs. this game is way too fucking snowbally. a single mistake means 30 minutes wasted, at least in dota only one guy can have the aegis and they don't get a huge gold lead off a single bad teamfight
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>>570320107
I unironically like that the game starts balancing on a knife's edge at 20:00 minutes.
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>>570319362
>gay
its the coolest part of shiv
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>nerf graves jar rate which only meaningfully makes her already-bad lane and early game even worse but has no impact on her mid-late
>make her skulls yield more souls when shot, disproportionately making her feed souls in high elos where people actually do that but not low elos where people already struggle against her
Who's writing these patch notes? The only actual nerf here that shitlow players will notice is her skulls doing slightly less damage. I predict she'll drop below 50% in eternus but shitlow she'll still be ~55%.
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>>570317175
Do Japanese players love Deadlock?
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Mina Santos, rise up and take what you deserve
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Lost with unhatched egg again
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Another day, another match where i go afk. On the upside at this point i'm pretty sure there's actually no punishment for going afk so long as you move every now and then not to get an abandon, i've supposedly been reported many times over afking in base in many games and nothing has happened to me, so i'll continue using this to save my time and dignity whenever my team is just too shit
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>>570317175
mini stuns like that are only good for canceling channeled abilities anyways
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>>570318717
Rem is NOT a black woman.
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>>570276386
>Has a mouth. Doesn't open when she talks.
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>>570321234
He's a black onahole (male)
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>>570321185
What rank are you in?
I do the same in my shitlow but I go to the enemy jungle to farm, if they find me, I just die without a fight and drop them soul orb
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>>570289928
Doll hero with joints FUCKING WHEN
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>>570321574
Wait... this is a huge oversight.
But what would be her ult?
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>>570321515
I keep floating between Phantom 4 and Ascendant 2, currently Phantom 6. I just fucking hate how this game sucks to play for 80% of the time though, i barely play anymore and when i do i go afk half the games
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>>570321703
she has sex with me
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>>570321738
>i go afk half the games
baby mental. this game isnt for you. what a fucking loser you are
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>>570321185
>>570321515
>>570321738
hope both of you get hardware banned
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>>570322007
You're right, but i don't fucking care. I like playing and when i'm mad i'll make sure everyone else is also being miserable, especially because i'll never be punished for it. So get fucked. Maybe if my teammates were playing better i'd not go afk.
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>>570321794
You mean me, right?
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>>570322172
>Maybe if my teammates were playing better i'd not go afk
the ironic part is that you're probably the one playing like shit and go afk when you take retarded fights in their jungle and complain about your team not dying with you
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Is there a list on what works and what still doesn't work with Arcane Surge now?

>Arcane Surge: Fixed various cases with the bonuses not working

They never fucking specify what they fixed
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>>570322172
>Maybe if my teammates were playing better i'd not go afk.
>muh teammates
lmaoooooo. link your statlocker so we can take a look at your teammates
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>>570322287
Its a lot more rational than you think. Most times i go afk in the laning phase, because my lane partner is shit. Like you go to lane and two minutes in you're getting your shit pushed in, teammate already died. If i keep playing this game i'll keep having to go trough the humiliation ritual of playing behind, maybe i'll win but i'll be miserable for the next 20 minutes. So i just go afk and the match ends faster. I hate laning and at this point if i feel i've been handed a sub-par lane partner i'll just go afk. I'm 100% not trolling either, i genuinely just fucking hate how your entire game is decided by wether or not you can get an advantage in lane, so i refuse to engage with that shit.
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>>570322487
bro thinks hes machiavelli but hes actually just a subhuman playing a game that makes him miserable lmao
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>>570322487
>going afk in the most inconsequential part of the game
yeah you're stupid i'm sorry
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>>570322487
>Most times i go afk in the laning phase
>i genuinely just fucking hate how your entire game is decided by wether or not you can get an advantage in lane
laning doesnt mean shit in this game unless you feed like 10 kills wtf are you talking about
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>silver players
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>>570322601
>>570322614
I just fundamentally don't want to feel bad when i'm playing. A bad lane feels bad and means you're going to have an unfun game, even if its not very important, so i decide not to play. I don't need to justify myself, my point with my initial post is that if you feel like me, know that you can afk with no repercussion, i've been doing it for i don't even know how many matches now and nothing happened to me.
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>>570322487
>could be doing literally anything like clearing his backlog or learning a skill
>instead he plays a game he despises and then...doesn't play the game because he despises it while having it open
you have actual issues I dont know if you think you're tough or cool for this but you're actually mentally ill
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>>570322741
lil bro doesn't wanna feel bad but he plays a game that tries to keep you around a 50% winrate lmao. imagine not having fun half the time you boot up a game..... sad shit....
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>>570322761
That's the cool part, i get to do whatever the fuck i want while the match runs in the background and i tab in to walk around a bit every couple of minutes.
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>>570322862
damn ur cool lol that's like a based alpha sigma move
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>>570322741
>I just fundamentally don't want to feel bad when i'm playing.
why do you even play this game? steam has the biggest catalogue of video games on the pc market, go try out a singleplayer experience or something
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>>570310493
Holliday sucked ass before the patch and she still sucks ass
Only whacky, zany meme joke players better off in CS surfing servers claim she isn't janky and awkward to use
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>>570322897
>>570322909
I don't know why you guys are so flabbergasted. Moba players have convinced themselves that they have to play even when the game is not fun, to the point where the genre is famous for it. Pro tip, just don't fucking play. If the match is going well and you're having fun, great. That's why i play, its not a mystery. I enjoy Deadlock. But when the match is going poorly and i'm having a miserable time, i just alt-tab and go do something else that is actually fun with my time. Why is this so bewildering to you?
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>>570323024
most people still have fun even when losing the game btw. most people don't have power/control issues in real life so feel the need to take games hostage or ruin them just to feel better lol
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>>570321703
Something involving puppet strings.
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typical weak mental NA player. this is why your whole region sucks ass at video games.
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>>570322487
>because my lane partner is shit.
i want to highlight this. why are you focusing on your lane partner so much? why are you not focusing on yourself to improve? how often do you look at your enemy team and notice theyre playing bad? what about when you do bad? can you link your statlocker so we can actually see if youre the god gamer, who never makes mistakes himself, you make yourself sound like?
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>>570313494
>I KNOW HOW YAMATO PLAYERS FEEL NOW
>mfw i mostly play Yamato, Holliday and Silver
I am genuinely sick of my balanced characters getting either buffed so faggots start metapicking them or nerfed to shit like Silver
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>>570322487
Game would end even faster if you closed it. You should try that sometime.
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>>570323165
It genuinely doesn't matter. My lane partner is what pissed me off the last time so its what i used as an example, but it could be anything. I'm not stupid, i know i don't play perfectlly, matter of fact i'm not particularly good. But the reason itself doesn't matter, what matters is that i'm not enjoying the match so i won't play. Its that simple.
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>>570322410
well last i checked a few days ago, it still doesn't apply the spirit power on warden's cage
>but the number on the tooltip goes up
yeah from the 1.6k it gives in investment, but the +20 conditional isn't applied
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diftor
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>>570323420
>toime to drink oooop
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>>570323456
>take ya troht
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So now suddenly everyone is a Holliday player huh?
GET THE FUCK OFF MY CHARACTER
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>>570274783
Johnny???? From the hit game Guilty Gear??? In my third person MOBA? Ngl I kind of feel like Johny's whole deal with coins, mist finer, and treasure hunt would be fun in this sort of game.
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>>570323024
>>570322862
>>570322741
>>570322487
>>570322172
>>570321738
>>570323279
Mental illness. You are mentally ill.
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>>570323112
this
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>>570323558
johnny is already in this game, he's just called shiv
>coin, aka limited stockpile that you have to land several in a row to murder someone
knife
>bullshit hitboxes
bullshit dash resets + tankiness
>fucked up execution barrier gatekeeping an otherwise simple gameplan
m2 movement tech
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>holliday gets no changes for the longest time
>gets big changes
>it's just reshuffling her barrel power around
>don't even touch her shitshot or lasso
>it will get nerfed and she'll be back to obscurity
Rework this character already
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>>570323752
>Rework
they just did
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>>570323807
No, she plays the exact same, she has the exact same role and playstyle, only 1 particular setup is easier to do
How is that a rework in your eyes?
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>>570323112
>>570323684
"Having fun while losing" is loser cope in every single sport, activity and game that has ever existed and it will always be. A competition is about winning, winning is the fun part.
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>>570324104
Winning and succeeding in anything is about enjoying the struggle and learning from your mistakes. Whatever familial issues you have suffered from should not be taken out on your teammates to make their game miserable.
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I see they overbuffed Apollo again. How fun!
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>>570324290
No, winning is when "you won" shows up on your screen, loser.
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>seven gun damage nerfed by 33%
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>570324397
nta, but im starting to see why you fuck up the laning phase every game. youre probably the type to get like 500ish souls behind and give up instead of actually playing better. real "self improvement is a cope" type dude
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>>570321703
240s CD
On cast, summon an identical doll. Only one doll can be summoned at a time. The doll copies your stats, but has a separate health bar and basic ability cooldowns. Dolls start out dormant, slowly gaining 60% bullet and spirit resist. If a dormant doll is killed, kill rewards are applied as normal, but rejuvenators and respawn timers are unaffected.

If a doll is already summoned, this ability instead makes your current doll dormant, and activates the dormant doll. The active doll loses its resistance bonuses over 3 seconds, and gains a massive sprint speed bonus.
If an active doll is killed, respawn timers and rejuvenators will be consumed.
Swapping between dolls only has a 5 second cooldown.

I'm imagining one of the abilities pulls the dormant doll in from anywhere, and if someone is caught between you and the doll, they get stunned and hit for massive damage.
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Man, I want to get into this game but a round taking a fucking hour is so long. I've been having a lot of fun in street brawl though. I tried league of legends like 4 years ago and remember having a similar issue with it. Also why is this games performance godawful?? I want to play with a friend and he can't cuz its so laggy
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>>570324575
Whatever man. I'm going to sleep now but i'll reiterate, you're the one who matters. If you're not having fun, you don't have to play the game. You can go do something else, just afk, there's no consequence. Only play the match if its a good one. The other people in the match don't matter, they're some retards you'll never meet again. I'm surprised that you guys are being such fucking redditors about it, i thought "based" 4channers would understand that putting yourself first is what matters, especially when its an inconsequential game. But keep whatever cope you want.
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>>570324720
deadlock games arent supposed to last an hour its like 30-40 mins at most, once you get out of low elo matches will go by quicker
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>>570324784
im not reading this faggot shit desu. you suck at the game and should either get better or just install, because it never gets better for you. anything other than "yes daddy, sorry daddy" is irrelevant to me
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>>570324520
he's literally just an ultbot now. yeah his near 60% winrate was absurd but making his hybrid build throw tier and giving him the haze/pocket ultbot duty is not what anyone wants either
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>>570324784
That's how niggers think, unironically.
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>>570324784
Given the amount of personal issues and lack of mental fortitude you're displaying you seem like the biggest redditard in this thread. Uninstall and play something else, don't grief my shit just because you died twice in lane. Fucking loser
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>>570324784
Kill yourself
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can I build gun items on apollo yet or does it need yet more buffs
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>>570324784
>i thought "based" 4channers would understand that putting yourself first is what matters, especially when its an inconsequential game.
>"based" 4channers
Go back to tiktok or instagram
Unrelated but do you think celeste's horn is an erogenous zone? Like do you think she'd like it if you stroked it
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no family
no friends
no money
only deadlock
i am 35
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>>570325314
watch a video of a cow getting its horns clipped, her horn is definitely sensitive
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>>570324784
i hope you're not this much of an insufferable faggot irl holy shit
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>>570322172
are you by any chance an a current or former avid player of league of legends? just curious.
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>>570325275
just a single 800 already gives you big damage boost due to investment so yeah the only reason you wouldn't want gun items at all is slot limitations
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>>570325323
if it makes you feel any better none of it matters anyways anon, you only see what people want you to see of themselves and their "happy families". Just enjoy yourself and be truly happy.
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>>570324720
all matches will be 40 mins until you're literally at the highest level, even league learned this is awful and now a 40 min one is considered really long
and yeah the performance is awful you need a x3d cpu or you're stuck at 80-100 fps max
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If you could activate express shot whenever you want, it would be an OK item instead of the abysmal dogshit it is now
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>>570325375
Obviously it's sensitive, I'm asking if you think she would enjoy me stroking it the same way you enjoy someone sticking their large black penis up your ass
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>another episode of 70k soul drifter who got fed early sits in our backline and does NOTHING
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>>570325597
why wouldn't she?
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>>570324784
Out of every invalid I've seen in this general, you take the fucking cake. Sweet fucking Christ you're pathetic.
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its kinda insane how people still cry about shiv literally one of the most counterable character knives? buy dbr dash? don't go into small tunnels buy cc, gun movement? buy disarm ult? buy cc like i mentioned his bloodletting already gets cucked by healbane pretty easily until you max it he isn't bad but not that great as people make it out be lol
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>>570324901
His ult is still terrible, you still run his M1 build but now your damage comes exclusively from power surge and maybe toxic bullets.
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pocket untouched victor untouched talon untouched wraith untouched haze untouched great patch yoshi! now we got more op shit thanks to holliday and apollo buffs!
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>having fun while losing
Yeah, I am having fun while team feeds nonstop and starts role playing with enemy team while not even trying to win
If they are not trying to win, why should I?
Might as well go AFK, anon is right
You can’t win a game 1vs11
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you share a general with these people btw
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>>570326313
retard
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>Apollo still feels like shit with his 2 gutted but they gave him a free echo shard on his biggest nuke
Huh
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>>570311939
He's balanced by the fact Rebuttal exists
No other hero is so cucked by a single 800 item.
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whats the point of the 25% debuff resistance on sticky bomb
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>>570326750
There's no point they wanted to make gunbop slightly worse again but didn't want it to be a straight nerf so now it gives a totally pointless buff instead.
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>>570326051
people complain about him cause he's actually hard to play with his m2 movement so they can't just pick him themselves and replicate the success. it's why every scrub likes silver, you just slam fire people for half their health and then hold m1 in wolf form
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>team doesnt help me literally 4 times in a row
>for example billy jumped graves i help her she RUNS AWAY instead of turning it into a 2v1 the fight lasts long enough that now its a 4v1 because his team arrives and i get absolutely bummed
>another one was where they were doing urn i jump em kill two but my team is chasing a seven in the back and the rest of the team kills me
>dont help anymore just clear lanes farm jungle never help in team fights
>ughhh shiv why didnt you help in team fights?! report!!!!!!
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>>570327146
>stop participating in the game
>team asks me why i'm not participating in the game
wow wonder why
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>>570327146
You have the push to talk button, please comm with your team-mates.
That is my ascendant level coaching
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>>570327204
they did that shit first why the fuck is it a problem now when I do it?
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>>570327242
they misplayed, you intentionally stopped participating in the game sweety. also with how weak your mental fortitude is i'm sure you're embellishing what actually happened and just got assblasted for some unknown reason
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>>570327304
if your misplay is literally walking away from the shiv that helped you when you got jumped you can go fuck yourself then
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>>570327146
>My team let me down so I let them down
Bwo.. Two wrongs don't make a right...
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>>570327341
you're shiv sister if the fight is going poorly m2 away and jump + dash up to a roof lmao or ult away if needed
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Yeah, whatever. The Silver changes does not affect me. I only play Spirit Assassin Silver anyway. My worry is that they're going to get her spirit scaling nerfed, people are going to flock to Spirit Silver and realize that her spirit scaling is ridiculous right now.
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>>570327406
and we had a haze mirage they didnt need me when their teamfights went bad tornado and go invisible
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>>570297718
>Barely touched silver
>BARELY
>TOUCHED
>SILVER
Are you fucking serious? Do you not play the character at all?
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>Doorman's call bell damage nerfed again
>This forces Doorman to specialize into kidnap builds over a "normal" playstyle even harder
>People continue to complain about Doorman
>Yoshi refuses to tone down T3 door range
>Repeat from step 1
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>>570327465
poor baby gotta run to 4chan and justify why he threw the game. maybe try reddit? you could get some validation there
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>you can effortlessly detonate 3 barrels on someone you lasso'd without supdur before the lasso ends
This is just fucking funny.
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>>570317765
>The win rate dumpstering with lower ranks but with the most pr
kek
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>>570327484
>Do you not play the character at all?
People that think Silver is anything better than an ok B tier character have never played her and probably try to duel her with light melees when she's in werewolf form
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>>570327058
>METAL SKIN!
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>people talking about deadlock and silver nerfs in xivg
Silver fans further proving their fucking degeneracy
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>>570327839
Bit of a self expose you were in xivg in the first place anon
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>>570327839
>Go and check out of curiousity.
>It's literally one guy with a 4 word post.
Also nice self report you fucking idiot.
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>>570327898
>>570327950
>silver fans crawl out of the woodwork
lol
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>>570327839
>man aren't all these troons in /xivg/ with me so awful
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>>570327839
You made that post didn't you anon.
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what is it about deadlock specifically that attracts the mentally ill like flies to shit
not even dota or, and allah forgive me for uttering this term, lol was this bad
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>>570325538
I'm playing on a laptop at 30-40 fps
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>>570326527
the 2 changes are a buff for the moves intended use (countering enemy moves, then stunning them) and only change his ability to completely 180 from any bad fight while playing like an ignorant ape, except now with the new sigil changes you can do that anyway and fly 20 miles backwards
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>Playing an awesome back n forth game
>55 mins in
>everyone somewhat competent with maxed out builds
>Wraith
>"can we end ts"
>"im tired"
>she goes into teamfight with 2 teamates waiting to respawn
>team that's still alive begrudgingly follows her
>we get wiped
>GG
I hate team games
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>>570328198
It happens every other online game right now. I had a guy "run it down" in a coop online strategy game because I was "slow" and "didn't deserve to win".
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>>570328198
>Implying
I can tell you right now League has a worse playerbase
Its very rare for people to BM or int on here meanwhile leaguefags will do it the moment you ping them.
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>>570328335
is the wraith in the room with us?
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>>570328415
fuck, i meant geist
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>>570328335
where wraith
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>>570324784
cant believe you mentioned anything about bad teammates when youre literally the WORST teammate anyone could get
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>Billy somehow dodged any nerfs
THAT'S WHY
HE'S THE FUCKING GOAT
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>They brought Holiday stomp stun back
Okay no there's experimental changes and then there's "Fuck you. Uninstall my game." I can't even defend this one.
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>>570328960
Which is funny that's one of the reasons she was broken in hero labs and they just brought it back lmao like the dev team is on marijuana
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>>570328960
Does it make Punchiday viable?
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>>570328960
Give holiday players some slack she's been either terrible or meh for ages
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>>570329152
>lets give holiday an ability that literally everyone bitched about in hero labs, it's okay because she's bad so that excuses giving her one of the most abuseable ez mini stuns in the entire game!
kill yourself, "it's my turn to be op!" balancing is fucking ass.
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>>570329254
This. as a holliday player she's just gonna get the apollo/victor pre buff treatment i would've rather preferred a total rework than making her fucking lame
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>>570329254
>everyone bitched about in hero labs
Ancient history.
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i am not playing till august where they will release the content update and hopefully fix the games balance by then currently i would rather get kicked in the nuts then play this shitty ass game see you later
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>>570329152
Yeah holliday player here can Yoshi not casualize my character?
A stomp damage buff would have been enough.
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>>570330070
Why do you keep posting this screenshot from someone's stream
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i thought the seven nerf would be a bigger nerf than it actually turned out to be but it really didn't change much
most of your damage is coming from the spirit scaling on your power surge anyways, i still fry people no problem
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wtf was that shiv nerf for ? i just started playing him this week
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>>570330605
shmoovement abuse.
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>>570330345
keep coping lil bro
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Very dead game where is the REAL FUCKING UPDATE
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>>570303163
Same, just started playing a few games on her as a third pick for my roster.
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>>570330740
was it that bad that it needed a nerf ? a 1min30 mega jump seems ok judging by all the crazy movement that's in this game. i wish they'd just make it longer if it didn't hit at all, i miss them a lot i'm still seeker 5 trash
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So how is Silver after the nerfs? Still S+++?
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>>570330070
If you're not planning on making money out of the game ("""content creation"""" or esports) is there any reason you'd want to aim higher than low asc/phantom?
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>>570291010
either
1. gun. use ava for heal and rotation. use ult as eshift. use slash as a warpstone.
2. ava amp. play around ava's 20% amp. full burst with items. may not go well late game. can try focus lens to squeeze more out of ava amp or escalating to amp before getting out of ava. both vulnerable. works well with an Ivy duo. you get more amp, and they can use your frost.
3. could try frost + lightning scroll for double gloom with ult reset (and ava amp). the more sustained gloom spam hasnt felt viable since they removed damage from gloom t2. used to use radiant and stamina mastery.
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>>570330070
dont hurry back nigger
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question about intensifying magazine, do i need to be literally holding down my mouse button for the entire magazine for it to work?
i like to shoot and aim in very quick successive bursts and flicks so there's going to be very brief pauses where i let go of my mouse button
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>>570332967
no. wind down.
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>>570331126
They take into account the M2 bug exploit when balancing Shiv.
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>>570330605
if you ever see shiv win a tournament match expect him to be nerfed next update
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>>570332706
wanting to get better?
>>570332865
pipe down retarded negro
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>>570312078
Their rationale is "I'm going to get extra vampiric burst healing and it's going to proc healing tempo each time"
Except it doesn't.
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>>570313494
>now
yamato has always been an op nigger people literally just don't want to play 8 head ayylmaos. look at how unpopular ivy was to play until they redid her model.
>>570323183
>yamato
>balanced
LMAO
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>>570314609
Yeah this kind of happens when there's a literal economy for boosting/selling accounts and also when eternus players are 'le bored' and decide to start shitting on oracle games to get their retarded marvel rivals main friend upto ascendant. and then they start ruining low eternus games. every time someone is caught doing this just hard reset both of their ranks to 0.
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Silver is the worst hero in the game now, and arguably the weakest and most useless any hero has been in any patch ever.
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>>570335206
But guess what? I still love her.
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>>570335682
How long until the revert this nerf? Next week? Hotfixed this week?
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>>570335758
Never.
Devs are retarded and only listen to a handful of tournament players who are all roughly 80 IQ
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just had 2 russian get on mic and offer me money to uninstall the game
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>>570335758
Never. I'm afraid this is the new normal for her, just like permatether is the new normal for Ivy instead of double tether
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>>570335887
>>570336035
Shame, she was balanced around having a short cd ult and a heal from maxing it, removing both and giving her nothing in return is the hardest, most undeserved, and most retarded nerf I've ever seen a hero get.
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Lazy fucks
>>570336570
>>570336570
>>570336570



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