Nerfed again Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/714529243732640268>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked >>570271402
They will revert these Silver nerfs next week.
They will nerf Shiv next week.
>wake up>silver ult nerfed to the point where she might as well just be allowed to ult on demand instead of being the only char to need to conditionally have access to her ultand dropped, im done with deadlock until they revert this or rework her ult entirely
>Shiv>Silver>YamatoI only play these 3. Shiv is still fine, the ult nerf is whatever. Silver got hit hard, sadly. Yamato is still OP. WE carry on.
S+++ilver status? Still the most op (just barely above 50% winrate in eturnus) hero in the game?
>>570335990anon I'm sorry to disappoint you but russians don't have money.
>>570337068Hence why I turned their offer down, besides all the money in russia would not be worth it because ruining their game is much more fun
Flopping tranny deadcock.
I'm going to go ahead and assume the ivy stoneform thing was a deliberate exploit because I have 2k games on her and I think I'd notice if my stoneforms were doing fucking 1200 damage to someone. I went looking and I could only find two instances of it in the wild and both times it was a russian.
FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEAD COCK
>>570336720>knives no longer stack bleed, just refresh duration >slice and dice spirit resist reduction no longer stacks, t5 upgrade no longer reduces cooldown on hero hitThere, he's fixed.
Lash!
Does Valve have the balls to add an actual African hero from Africa considering the state of that continent during the time period the game's set in?
>>570336065This game is "balanced" based entirely on the vibes of a handful of streamers and their viewers who parrot them and Yoshi/Icefrog's questionable design philosophyThat's also why Shiv and Paradox will forever remain unrealized characters that mostly bring any value when played with coordinated teams
>>570338654idk if removing 20% of an entire team's health pool effectively and aoe swaps, area denial and walls aren't all good.
>>570336779People didn't realise she needed a low cd ult because she can do nothing BUT broolShe has one of the lowest farming speeds in the gameShe can't take objectives for shitShe only has value brooling.
>>570338838It's almost like the hero was designed with low cd ult and refresh/heal on ult max in mind.What retarded nigger though removing these were a good idea?
when will people catch on that the game isn't actually playable unless you have Superior Duration + Unstoppable
adding mana to this game would solve 90% of its issues and i'm not exaggerating
Ive thinking about apolloid a lot lately. Its clear everyone is retarded and playing him wrong. Flawless advance is bait, ultmaxxing is the way
>>570339045uhhh but that will stop me from spewing AoE goyslop across the entire map? and I like doing that?
we have you now!
What will Silver's winrate be after the nerfs? Below 40%?
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>>570339631>the nerfs were actually a buffYou upplayers never cease to amaze me with your stupidity.
where do you think you're going?>throws barrellet me show you why I'm the law!>lands and stuns youWRANGLING EM!>you watch helplessly as i take you under the walker
>>570336779That's the part that just boggles my brain a bit. I'm not making the argument that she didn't need nerfs but at this point she has a higher baseline CD on an ult she doesn't actually get to control the use of than several characters who do. Why is this the lever they're pulling? It's a nonsensical design for a character.
Is the matchmaking just random or do you a certain amount of games with a character before it "stabilizes"
Shiv is a really bad hero at the moment.
Commends done in the middle of the game are more valuable than commends after the game.
carbine paradox
>>570340431git gud
They made Doc Holliday S+ tier what the fuck
>>570340285It's such a bizarre nerf that I wouldn't be surprised if the reverted both nerfs from this patch in the next
Wait so Graves is actually Jewish lol?>"phylacteries, are sets of small black leather boxes with leather straps containing scrolls of parchment inscribed with verses from the Torah."
Double tether needs to come back because healbot Ivy needs more lategame scaling. Permatether actively removes value from cooldown items, which is one of the few ways she could continue to scale her healing in lategame.Also, FUCK that little birdnigger Rem, the amount of healing he gets to throw around is absurd
>>570340431ShivGODS will keep thriving no matter what is thrown at us.
The moment I start losing in my lane, I start calling people cheating faggots no matter the case.
>>570341418That's where Lich stores his actual soul. It's like Horcruxes in Harry Potter
>>570341539>one permanent tether>cast activates second tether
This patch will remind people why Holliday was intentionally kept bad.
>>570341418It's more of a reference to D&D liches than to the Torah. They use phylacteries to bind their soul to it instead of their body, granting immortality. Another folklore character than the lich archetype is based on is Koschei the Deathless, from Russian fairy tales. He used a needle as a phylactery, hidden in an egg, hidden in a duck, hidden in a hare, hidden in a chest, hidden under a tree in a distant land, and finding and breaking it was the only way to kill him.
>>570341763That's a good suggestion anon, I like itThat'd be great for her
>build gun Sinclair>steal Haze's ult>he shoots like 1 bullet per secondman...
>>570341587Why did you post a Shiv edit of a notorious jobber then?
people are telling me I can't just build gun items exclusively on every hero? wtf?
>>570342107His base attack speed is ass
>>570342146He's married you whore
How do I effectively play Mirage? Anyone got a good build on him?
>>570342329Max and Echo shard tornadoes if you are teamplayerMax Djinn's Mark if you are a faggot
They should revert literally ever nerf Silver received. I think it would be funny.
>>570342564This man wants you to throw your games, do NOT listen to him
>>570338635They would say it's fantasy and have Narniwakanda country and the hero would be someone respected by everything and generic.
how come Shiv is not allowed to be an actual character until he has lvl 5 in knives, and then hes allowed to be a character for like 10 minutes till the enemy has dispel magic and then hes a melee trooper again who does nothing
>>570342725because he's really uh...strong how do i know this...? he just is dont look at winrates and dont look at night shift and dont look at...uh...HE'S JUST STRONG OKAY?!
>>570342329tornado echo shard of course
>>570342725Because Yoshi is really attached to the movement cheat alt fire and dash resets which mandates he be bad
>>570342725because of pro play
>>570340431I agree, he needs more nerfs.
>>570342725Knife build is a noob trap, unless you're an OTP and barely miss them + you can capitalize on an early lead + your team knows how to snowball you'd be better off dashmaxxing + some tankiness.
>Shiv: Killing Blow now has +30% more cooldown whenever it does not execute a playerHe's already so undertuned.This is just spite now.
>>570340084>where do you think you're going?There are at least 3 champions that say this
>Silver: Lycan Curse cooldown increased from 40s to 70s>Silver: Lycan Curse T3 no longer healsThank FUCKI cannot tell you how many times I came so close to killing this bitch just for her to ult for a large chunk of health before biting me for another large chunk of healing.If anyone is dying to her now, they need to be studied in a lab.
>>570343992Genuinely the hardest nerf any hero ever received and she didn't even deserve it
>>570344107While half her kit is locked behind an ult, her ult does way too much pressure for it to be a 40 second cooldown.Now chuddies will have to use a slot to compress her ult if they want anything remotely pre-nerf.Her ult should be used consciously, not as a "get out of jail free card"
>>570343992this doesnt change 1v1s at all
>>570343992>Character's human form is literally dogshit outside of a burst window to accommodate for her ult being strong>People complain about the ult being strong but dont want human form to be buffed either
>>570342107>build gun SinclairI know you're insane because you play Sinclair, but mind explaining this build?>>570342146Some women that I know are on team Vegeta now and since childhood.
>570343871i know what (You) are
>>570343992This is the kind of person Silver was sacrificed to appeaseThe kind who couldn't counter this game's Huskar
So we all agree that the most recent hero drop was a disaster right? Venator, Celeste, Apollo and Rem have largely been garbage since they released, Ven and Celeste in particular seem completely forgotten about. The only ones who have actually impacted the meta are Graves and Silver who have proven to be unbalanceable messes.
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>>570344519This game's huskar is obviously shivSilver is the slark of deadlock (also noob stomper)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSuP_G9xxAis this the new meta for calico? this seems kinda nutty
>>570344313Doubling the cd and making the ult useless lategame at the same time kills literally anything good about the hero.
Two games in a row where my team is dead weight. Seems like it always puts the feeders on my team.
>>570344809Gun Calico isn't new, but spirit nuker/assassin just gives you more bang for your buck (which doesn't matter below oracle)
>>570344313>Her ult should be used consciously, not as a "get out of jail free card"That's not how her ult works, though, you can't consciously use it. I recognize there is a degree of control in that her 2-3-1 combo generally gets her ult to trigger but there's so many variables to that (soul dif meaning you just don't deal as much damage to a particular target, enemies having counterplay to the combo via items or disjoint, etc.) it can never be considered the same as "I press 4 and now the situation is reversed".
*drum roll**ba-dum-tss*Ready for the turn?SAVANNAH!Watch where this lands...ECHO SHARD!Hop to it!Blink and you'll miss it!>deals 5000 damage with zero counterplay and leaves
why does shiv have spikes on his two?
>>570342146roll
>>570345502because it's a picture of the demon he's cutting up, not himself
>>570345484buy counterspell
>>5703449041. it's not doubled2. compress cooldown, the base component of superior and transcendent, reduces her ult down to 57 and transcendent reduces it to 52.It may not be 40 but her previous builds never included cooldown reduction.In a way it's a buff to her human form if they want to use her ult as often as possible.I'm going to be testing her out as a jungler to see where it takes me.
>>570345602i mean around the circle thing
>>570345461The ult being forced in inopportune moments or not becoming available in time was part of the design and balance. They kept this huge downside despite nerfing her ult extremely hard.
>>570345805>I'm going to be testing her out as a junglerYou are fucking retarded, she has terrible camp clearing speedHaving to pay another slot tax for CD is horrendous too
>>570345805>um acksually its only 75% increase in cooldown its not doubled>have to spend 6400+ souls for ult to have longer cd than before while also lacking the heal on refresh from t5, the only thing that made her ult viable post 20 minutes >also jungling on one of the slowest creep killers in the gameEnjoy griefing, I doubt your team will.
>>570345818Oh, those just indicate a skill's upgrade statusThere's three different layers of spike borders to indicate how many upgrades have been put in, and the border is completely plain (like the other skills) if it's not upgraded at all yet
>>570345818it's just for flair, it shows if the skill is non upgraded, upgraded once, twice or thricelevel up every skill they'll all get spikes
>Not allowed to be a good character because of altfire movement tech that most of his playerbase doesn't even use
>>570345935Its actually not that bad unless of course the only metric you're comparing her to are AOE heroes which speaks alot about you and whining about having to "pay another slot tax" tells me you're not adaptive and just want to bitch.Adapt or die sevenlet.
>>570346151Valve balances around the top level play and nothing else.Yes they're retarded
>>570346112Adapt or dieYour choice
>>570345805>In a way it's a buff to her human form if they want to use her ult as often as possible.You sound like you work at GGG.>"We've doubled the cooldown on her ult. No other changes. This is a buff"
>>570346120>>570346145oh thanks never knew that somehow
>>570344993>Queue a third game>Holliday on my team once again>Forced to be the Holliday babysitter for the third game in a row
>>570346186Yeah brother just spend 3200 or 6400 souls as a extra tax on one of the few heroes that can't effectively afk farm that will go well.
>>570346324I'd rather not play the worst hero in the game as I hate losing on my waifu
We outta sinner's sacrifices
The fact is that you can't make a balanced game with varied hero kits when everyone has the built in requirement of having an infinite range auto attack.
>>570346268Doing this is actually fine if everyone one-tricksIf you play an underpowered character, you will lose more often, and will go into lower elo, and now it's balencedIf you play an overpowered character, you will win more often, go to higher elo now it's balencedCharacter balance onlyatters in the highest level(but this only works of people stop being hero sluts and stick to being faithful to their main)
>>570346268But he's also bad there
Silver upplayers are genuinely mentally ill.
>>570346696>infinite range
>>570346732KILL YOURSELF
>>570346186Please do post your results, I want a good laugh
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