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>>570360238
Who the fuck is Vali?
And is that a new keyblade?
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NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>Docomo Tower added to the command menu
>It wasn’t there last year when they first released the screenshots
>It's the 13th tallest tower in Japan
>It's the 7th tallest tower in Tokyo
This tower is going to play an important role. I can feel it
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How do the continue making Sora look younger than he did in KH2? The second game actually made it seem like he was growing up. It's weird how they don't see this when designing him for 3 and 4.
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I am the only person who played melody of memory and missing link.
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>>570362342
no, i played both and can play both right now if i wanted to
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I just realized that because Xehanort could see Player's memories he did actually just know about Lauriam and Elrena's past (at least a very abridged version).

Also he should hypothetically know all about Brain considering he and Player certainly interacted in ML
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Xion my beloved
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>>570361517
He looks older to me.
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>>570361517
You are stupid
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>>570361517
No? He looks older
I just hate Nomura is making his hair less spiky as the number titles continue
Yeah I hate KH3 Sora's hair too
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>>570372565
dont worry he is getting bald for kh5
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>watch video about new info on KH4
>apparently the KH in fortnite (and rocket league????) is not a shitpost but it's actually a real leak from real leakers, one of which was actually an epic employee and got fired for leaking shit
w-what
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If Luord-with-an-X and Yozora's faction are actually keyblade hunters, it would be extremely based
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What are your HOPES and FEARS for KH4?
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>>570375831
somehow the world bosses are a mess like kh3
yes, yes I know remind, those are kh bosses. I'm talking about disney bosses
they somehow are less fun fighting bosses in com/recom
kh1 and 2 world bosses are fine, how did kh3 get this wrong. davy jones was the only world boss fight I can remember from 3 ffs
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>>570379827
Sora looks better with some blue on
Sky is blue and what not
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I can beat kh2 on level 1, including beating lingering will all Data battles and sephiroth in less than 16 hours. I wish I couldn't because it's such a useless skill. Nobody will ever give a shit that I'm a good kingdom Hearts player.
Stupid.
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>>570380616
3D was a mistake
that shit started the dull black red color and miniscule yellow scheme for sora
sora had white, black, red, blue, yellow, silver in both his 1 and 2 outfits
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>>570381254
I give a shit.
I think I could pull off beating the fane, but I doubt I'll ever be able to get the crown on lvl 1
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I don't think Nomura's heart is in it anymore
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>>570385639
His heart I feel hasn't been in it since what happened with Versus 13th. I feel that KH3 and what is to come next is a result of that. But i also don't know if I trust anyone else to do this series justice. I just hope that when all this is over, it will have been worth it.
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>>570385639
I feel the opposite.
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>>570385639
You're projecting and you're the one who doesnt care anymore.
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I love Xion the most
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>>570362565
>he did actually just know about Lauriam and Elrena's past (at least a very abridged version).
Didnt he only "meet" them at the very end, and didnt even talk to either. All xehanort should know is that they are keyblade wielders from the age of fairytales.
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So what do you think his deal is? Pls no MoM theories
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>>570390062
Quadratum resident like Luxord.
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>>570375831
>hopes
Star Wars world
More Final Fantasy characters
More focus on Maleficent and Pete
Challenging endgame bosses
>fears
Marvel world or Invincible world or any metropolitan city that will look no different from Quadratum.
Return of Attractions.
The bad pacing of kh3.
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>>570391014
>or Invincible world
????
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>>570375831
>HOPES and FEARS for KH4?
My only hope is that Jack Garland is a boss fight.
My only fear is that Jack Garland isn't in the game.
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>>570375831
>hopes
Return of attractions
Flowmotion isn't as nerfed as it is in 3
Summons pull from the focus gauge and not the magic gauge
>fears
The opposite of what I want happens
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>>570391859
i'd very much take that over Sephiroth
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>>570391859
God fucking please give me anything for more Jack, have him switch jobs too and I'll cum.
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>>570375831
>hopes
The game is longer than previous ones.
Other characters being playable (i want to play as xehanort outside dark road).
Bring back character customisation from 0.2, but expanded.
>fears
Its gonna be too short despite the wait for it.
They would listen to 2fm fans too much on the gameplay side.
They would cater to normies like in kh3, leading to 4th wall breaking jokes, or unnecessary exposition scenes.
They would use AI.
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>no one expected to see KH4 at the Nintendo Direct
>KH4 shows up at the direct
What are the chances of more KH news to show up at D23
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>>570393671
If we expect it there then it won't happen.
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>>570393671
National Geographic world soon
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>>570391859
What if he is not a boss, but instead the olympus party member?
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>>570393671
would be the perfect place to start showing disney worlds (and less quadratum), but idk i feel like this time around they'll only start the marketing (so, any kind of footage given what happened these past 4 years) when the game is like one year or less from release

>>570393969
i still think Olympus is cutscene only, especially since otherwise it means there's another playable character for that bit. Then again, Mickey is already confirmed to be playable so idk
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>>570361447
>DoCoMo
coded is coming back
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https://twitter.com/NobodyDax/status/2065548400355836400
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One of you niggas turn this into a webm (I don't know how) so I can more easily spread Re:coded supremacy
https://x.com/ickyvickywhy/status/2065125168020684843
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>>570374517
we should've seen it coming desu, MoM is still exclusive to the Epic Store
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>>570395060
Sorry, I don't think DMC cuhrayzee spam makes for "good combat". I prefer my attacks to be deliberate and precise.
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>>570391664
The Incredibles, sorry.
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>>570395060
I don't agree with you on Re: Coded's combat being the best, but I agree with your mission statement if it hurts 2fags. I just did part of it.
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>>570395060
i do wish they'd bring back dodge offset from Recoded, i feel like the combat in the numbered games would benefit greatly from it.
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I didn't think the gameplay in the trailer looked particularly good... I expected more from 4 after ReMind, but it seems like they took a step back.
Hopefully the next time we see it it'll look a lot better and when we get more info on how the mechanics and systems actually work it'll click more for me.
What did you anons think?
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>>570396009
For mob fights it looked great. You're not going to get satisfying examples of gameplay from a KH game until you're playing it anyway.
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>>570396009
You're comparing KHIV's earlygame to KHIII's endgame
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>>570393969
Make Jack the olympus party member and then make his armored garland form the colisseum super boss ala kh 1 sephiroth
Where he challenges you so he can test your light first hand.
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>>570393613
>They would listen to 2fm fans too much on the gameplay side
Why would that be bad?
Don't get me wrong I liked 3 and loved the remind bosses, but kh2 is the best game of all time.
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>>570395060
This is the original video luv recoded.
It had no business being this good.
https://youtu.be/dzqJ3zdcvCU?si=Nl66yaScOJVx3hT4
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If Kingdom Hearts were a food, what would it be?
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>>570398754
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>>570398754
Box of chocolates.
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>>570398818
Xion nya
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Light!
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Darkness!
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>>570400837
>>570401024
Those concepts don't exist here. You gotta go back to your reality or we'll raise your rent.
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The patch on Yozora's shirt the skull with crown and keyblades is like the skull and crossbones on clothes in FFXV. Regis wore it. And Noctis did too. Obviously this is because Roen uses that motif a lot. But Lucis was also a nation of reaper worshippers, more than likely they specifically worshipped Etro the Goddess of Death, and they had lots of death iconography. Yozora has a skull with a crown and crossed keyblades, The skull straight up has Sora's hair on it, and the crossed keyblades=the X-blade, and of course X/Chi stands for death. Sora=Etro?
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I wanna see Zack aged up in Olympus soldier hybrid gear
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If the story is anywhere as good as KH3, KH4 will go down in history.
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>>570375831
>hopes
Every disney world is its own sandbox
Quadratum already looks linear, maybe they are saving up for the other worlds
>fears
they make us go through flops movies like Lightyear, Strange World, Soul, or Wish
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>>570405343
>Quadratum already looks linear
What on Earth gave you that idea
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>>570400837
Nothingness!
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>>570405343
Tron: Ares flopped but it could be turned into a fun level.
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>>570405343
>Wish
well wish is probably too recent so you don't have to worry too much about that
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>>570393613
>>570397709
Because KH2 fanatics don't want 3 or 4 to have its own identity, but rather be a carbon copy clone. KH3 arguably already shares too much with KH2, and only manages to eek out its own identity by having features from other games, level design, and being in a separate engine.

Mods going as far to make the Focus bar shaped liked the Drive gauge and Sora permanently stuck in his KH2 outfit and hair style aren't coincidences.
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>>570381448
It's insane to me how much better his kh3 outfit looks with the coloring of his kh1 and kh2 outift.
I am especially fond of the kh1 color with the black shirt.
That being I said I am cool with his kh4 look.
Maybe it's because I absolutely didn't jive with his kh3 look.
Outifit was okay, but I really hated his hair.
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>>570406314
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>>570389875
No, Lauriam directly talked to Player because he knew about her s̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g wanting to be friends them. He made them promise to keep Strelitzia in mind. Quest 856. This is true for Elrena though.
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>>570402654
>The skull straight up has Sora's hair on it, and the crossed keyblades=the X-blade, and of course X/Chi stands for death. Sora=Etro?

I don't think anything is that simple anymore now that the idea of relativity/perspective/nothing is good or bad only thinking makes it so has been introduced. Sora is symbolic of the day/life/awakening and Yozora is symbolic of the night/death/sleep. Every world shares one sky (night and day are still two sides of the same sky) and one destiny. But they're doing a Yin and Yang thing where there is the opposite of light and dark in another. Sora disappeared through the Power of Awakening. He died by waking. After he gave everyone their birth by sleep. Yozora's world isn't an afterworld for everyone who didnt come from there its a world of life.


One sky, one destiny. because everything is fated to die. But there is always hope for rebirth.

>There are many worlds, but they share the same sky — one sky, one destiny.
>Xehanort: "X"... A most ancient letter. Some say "kye," but the meaning is the same. Death... A letter that spells endings.
But Chi is a concept similar to the Lifestream from FF7, and another word for Christ in real life and its based on the keys to the kingdom heaven and it opens kingdom hearts which is light etc.
>On that land shall darkness prevail and light expire.
>But the true light sleeps deep within the darkness. That'swhy the worlds are still scattered, divided from each other. But someday, a door to the innermost darkness will open. And the true light will return.
The worlds are still divided.

Also has anyone noticed the way the Master of Master talks about the realm of unreality is how people see the afterlife in real life?

This post made way more sense in my head.
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>>570413150
Etro reminds me of the nobody strelitzia thing Marluxia uses in CoM but its probably a coincidence.
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>>570413150
>anyone noticed the way the Master of Master talks about the realm of unreality is how people see the afterlife in real life?


Does anyone have a screenshot where MoM is talking about it? This is as close as I could find but its the wrong cutscene. He says something like 'People want to inagine a world beyond, a world of *'
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>>570402654
>And Noctis did too. Obviously this is because Roen uses that motif a lot


Mickey Mouse had a Roen collboration where he wore this and I refuse to believe it wasnt because of Nomura somehow
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>>570413331
No necklace on her KH4 design.
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>>570390062
The character files basically imply Master of Masters was responsible for him becoming a Nobody somehow. Or joining the organization. So I think they're two seperate people for now. But he is part of the plan. He was the one who helped a lot during 3. His character file seemed to imply he was lonely and wanted friends or something too so I wonder if that means he has a tragic backstory or at least misses people from his past life. He's not from UX times or a keyblade weilder.
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>add hades to my deck
>die every time
Why does this card even exist?
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>>570414573
It's fine if you're good at the game/strong enough that the HP cut isn't an issue
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>>570402654
>Sora=Etro?

Maybe
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>>570395060
>>570395887
>>570397868
More like re:goated.
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>>570360238
Soon
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CUM GUARDIAN!
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SUBMIT!
SUBMIT!
SUBMIT!
SUBMIT!
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>>570415314
No heart is such a baller design.
Wish he wasn't in a game wuth notoriously ass superboss designs.
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>>570418012
He is the best fight of the bunch at least
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Holy shit
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>>570406314
>>570406912
kh3 sora's hair in Nomura's drawings(2d) is just a toned down kh2 hair, like he actually got a haircut. I have no idea how did the 3d model hair become the way it is with those fuckass cat ear looking spikes
Also yeah, that's what I'm saying, his kh3 outfit looks better in kh1 or 2's color schemes
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>>570421464
Why is sigurd there what is this family tree implying
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>>570425831
sigurd is xehanort's mom, keep up
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My favorite part of the trailer was Sora getting flung through a window, it was violent without being bloody and gory. So my question is, was that something that they never really did much because of the tech or was it like an art direction thing? Because in Back Cover Aced has visible bruises, in KH3 Axel gets smashed into a boulder(one placed in that level solely for that purpose) but those were honestly like one offs. I hope they keep it up with the violence.
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>>570425831
Ephemer and Skuld have children. Sigurd is a descendent. So is the black haired woman. And Xehanort. Going by the pic that is to say. Not even going off the possibility Brain threw his hat in the ring somewhere down the line too.
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>>570425831
Ephemer x skuld. -> great grandson sigurd x black hair -> no heart.
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If this was Star Wars, is Vanitas supposed to be Xehanort's Sith apprentice he's trying to replace with someone better or still body hopping?
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>>570429073
Body hopping. Vanitas would have some unique ability or something he's trying to use to his own benefit. Like Anakin being the chosen one that the Emperor wanted as his weapon to conquer the republic.
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Reminder that Terra could've regained his body by himself but Aqua helped Terraanort disguised as Terra (who would've been exposed if Aqua could notice the keyblade but she couldn't notice Ven with the X-Blade) beat up Cum Guardian. Terra wanted to flee to the Realm of Darkness not to save Aqua but because her recent helping of domestic abuse was too much and he wanted an escape.
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So why do Ansem and Xemnas have powers unlike Xehanort or Terranort? Old Nort doesn't do as much darkness blasts, he just uses the same ice, fire, and keyblade swings. Neither of them use red lightsabers with the closest being YX. All the other Org13 Nobodies have similar powers if not identical.
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>>570429925
For variety really. And Xehanort uses darkness blasts in his Kh3 fight. He especially spams it as No Heart in BBS. Red lighstabers and blue lightsabers are the same. The other org members weren't as split up as Xehanort is. Their nobodies are very close to their somebodies, unlike Xehanort whose nobody is a fusion with terra, his heartless having possessed someone elses body and using a weapon in the form of the Guardian. YMX has a variety of abilities.
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I hope Sora gets to wear a fancy suit at some point like Noctis. I mean Luxord gets to.
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>>570360348
Xehanorts senpai who was killed when his classmate went on a darkness keyblade spree
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>>570391859
No m rated characters allowed
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>everone said falling slash has a retardedly long start up
>they kept it
I'll give it a benefit of a doubt because the attack is from the moana/elementals' keyblade's form
I sure fucking hope falling slash isn't the same from KH3 when done regular form
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>>570405826
Please don't taint kingdom hearts by bringing j*red l*to in
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>>570431814
In what way is this falling slash? This is clearly a reuse of the dive attack.
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>>570431814
That "falling slash" is a finisher reaction command
You're not seeing it unless you blindly mash buttons
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You guys should isn't xehanorts mom
She's soras
She was pregnant when she was subject x and Luxu freed her and sent her to destiny islands knowing xehanort would never want to go back to that small world because sand gets everywhere. She gave birth to sora and he was able to connect his heart to vens when Darkness got ripped out.
Emphemer did have other kids eventually which led to xehanort but his first son with skuld is sora
This is my super schizo theory
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why did they call it explosion when stun impact and ripple drive more resemble actual explosions than it
it's just a bunch of revolving magic spheres
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>>570432398
Well first of all, Stun Impact and Ripple Drive were in KH1 and Explosion is in KHII
So if you comprehend the concept of linear time, it's clear to see why those two were not in consideration when naming Explosion
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>>570432398
Don't worry about it, it actually becomes a bunch of explosion in the bbs version lmao
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>>570432875
3d confirmed that time is anything but comprehensible
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>>570375831
>HOPES
Slower, weightier combat
TWEWY characters
Jack
Story that feels wrapped-up
Drives or similar growth-based forms

>FEARS
Marvel
Post-2000s Disney worlds
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>>570433029
3D had numerous systems in place and I don't think Nomura did a very good job of explaining them all. Like how the time-traveling Xehanorts were all on a timer (for some reason) and arbitrarily left "when their time was up". Or how the Replica bodies in 3 were Xehanort's way of overcoming this restriction, so when those bodies were killed the time limit immediately sprung on the freed hearts, sending them back again.
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>>570433731
>Drives or similar growth-based forms
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>>570433816
I lost my fucking mind as an 11 year old when I saw "LEARNED HIGH JUMP" appear when I was just playing mindlessly and using Valor form.

For some reason I thought I got it from using the JUMP command on Dragoons, took me a while to figure out how to get abilities from Drives...
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>>570432189
Wouldnt work. Subject x was freed after bbs when sora was like over 4
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>>570434000
I know, I had a similar experience
But having it as hopes for 4 after 3 might not be a good kind of expectation
Sora will probably get the growth abilities as mandatory fight rewards
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>>570434152
Wrong. Subject X was picked up by Xehanort for his experiments during the 10-year gap.
We don't know how long she was there before being set free.
All we know is that the cells were empty when Xemnas returned during KHII.
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>five or six different reaction commands in just that little gameplay snippet
Better hope players love them this go around, because if they bitch, they're getting axed hard as fuck
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>>570433816
explain this response
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>>570434624
>Reaction Commands but triggering them is entirely player-driven
Might be peak
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>>570434741
I'm who he responded to and I understood it as "my brother"
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Man, were we starved.
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>>570435050
>21 worlds
The highest world count was 16 in KHII and we are absolutely never getting that high ever again.
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>>570434624
I mean their defense reaction commands were context sensitive and unique to each enemy so making it something entirely player dependant kinda defeats the purpose if bringing it back
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>>570436118
You can probably cut that down to 16 by some of those being cutscene only. But also I won't believe any leaks, even screenshots (due to AI). But the final world list probably will be full of recent movies most fans haven't seen.
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I would really like to go back to KH2 Gummi Stages. Like I would really like to have those instead of what we got in KH3.
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>>570360238
The Xehanort we see in KH4 is the one from Dark Road.
Sometime during the events of Dark Road, Young Xehanort abused the Power of Waking just like Sora. This is before Young Xehanort time-traveled in KH3. When Young Xehanort gives Sora cryptic messages in Kh3, it's because Young Xehanort had already experienced what Sora did. Young Xehanort is a time-traveling heart (in a replica), and the Heart remembers everything. The idea is that Young Xehanort already knew what was going to happen to Sora; he knew Sora would eventually beat him, but Young Xehanort can't stop fate, so he has to play the role of a cryptic Dark Seeker in DDD / KH3. Then, decades later, the Anemesic Terra-Xehanort theorizes about the other side because those memories are etched in his heart. Also, let's go over Terra-Xehanort in KH3. Terra-Xehanort says, "Seeing you ALSO have taken the forbidden path, you TOO must be ready to make the ultimate sacrifice." Also, to imply lived experience, Sora is not the only one who took the "forbidden path". Also this works in so many ways, it doesn't undo the ending Xehanort got in KH3, it makes it to where the last time Sora meets Xehanort is the first time Xehanort meets Sora, it gives Young Xehanort more nuance in DDD, and especially KH3, it teaches Xehanort that following the light gets you no where (he sees Sora, who sacrificed everything and was erased from reality), and Young Xehanort in Dark Road has some things in common with Sora in KH3 (they both lost their friends and with this theory, they both abused the power of waking). Also, don't forget that modern electronics like microwaves washed ashore in Scala Ad Caleum during the events of Missing Link, which proves that time in Quadratum flows differently and that Quadratum was already modern during the time of Missing Link.
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>>570435050
>No Endor,
>No Olympus... only the underworld.
>And what the hell is WF

Yeah this list is false. Absolutely fake.
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>>570436430
The list is common guesses, wish fulfillment (6 is Princess and the Frog, 13 is Brave, 16 is WALL-E)
It's the same horseshit as every other "leak"
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>>570436118
Why did everything peaked with 2
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>>570436896
Team went off to work on Versus XIII.
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>>570436572
KHIV Xehanort looks distinctly older than Young Xehanort though.

Young Xehanort is before he goes on his world tour, so I believe that Xehanort found unreality at some point during that tour (possibly as part of the Master's machinations), and that this is the version of Xehanort we're seeing.
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>>570437041
Xehanort story:
>Born in Scala, gets raised by cloaked figure on Destiny Islands
>Ansem SoD travels from future and sends Xehanort back to Scala
>Xehanort trains in Scala
>His friends dies
Xehanort abuses the power of waking, and he has interactions with Sora in Quadatum
>Later returns to reality (will be explained in KH4
>Then his heart time travels and experiences KHDDD-KH3 Forgets, but memories etched
>Becomes Master Xehanort
>Possesses Terra (becomes Terra-Xehanort)
>Loses memories, becomes Apprentice Of Ansem The Wise Steals Ansem's name + research, experiments with Kairi theorizing about a world that is neither light nor dark
>Becomes Ansem SoD & Xemnas Ansem SoD then goes back to send his younger self on the appointed path, then destroys countless worlds at the command of the heartless Xemnas builds The World That Never Was, founded Organization 13
>Both Ansem & Xemnas get defeated by Sora & Riku between KH1 and 2
>Resurrects, forms the true organization 13 splitting his heart into other vessels, and past incarnations of himself
>Past versions defeated, they go back, forget memories (but memories etched), and will eventually become Master Xehanort
> Xehanort forges the X-Blade
>Gets defeated by Sora His heart + Eraqus ascend into Kingdom Hearts (dies)

Also Xehanort in Kh4 looks around the age of KH3, so the theory still works
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I miss spocknort
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>>570437461
>i miss [user]
Spot it.
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>>570437461
>>570437901
Let's be real, KH4 won't be good because Xehanort is not the villain. Nomura's mistake was focusing 2 decades on one villain.
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>>570437105
yeah no, a atlantis keyblade wouldnt look like that at all
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>>570438032
I'm more interested in the MoM plot than whatever Xehanort was trying to do in KH3.
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>>570438292
anon is time to know we are the minority, most people that will play kh4 dont even know who is mom at all
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I can't wait to see how they fuck up the Star Wars world. It'll be an Arendelle level disaster where Sora gets shoved into a side character role that doesn't get to fight Darth Vader and Luke doesn't even join the party.
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>>570438372
And the newest KH4 trailer just included one of Xehanort's upper classmates. Not one of his friends, but one of the random dudes that dies after getting a few scenes. And possibly some guy that has previously only shown up with a hood, whose backstory is in a cancelled game. Nomura doesn't care if people aren't keeping up to date.
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>>570396009
It looks shit, but it seems like it looks bad more from the gameplay needing more polish than the core necessarily being bad.
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Can someone explain how Roxas and Sora are supposed to be sharing the same Kingdom Key when they both existed during the events of Chain of Memories?
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>>570439872
During CoM, Sora didn't use the actual Keyblade, but a memory Keyblade made from the cards in the castle. Prior to that, during the endgame of KH1, Roxas was doing tutorial stuff and so there's room for them to simply not have overlap in use.
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>>570440006
Interesting. One last thing that also bugs me is during Roxas's dive into the heart during KH2 prologue. Did this also happen before the events of Days offscreen?
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>>570437105
i think it's an original keyblade you get early just to show off the build stuff
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>>570437275
>Born in Scala, gets raised by Player( The same Player from Union X Who then gets reincarnated into Missing Link Player as Darkness spreads like a pestilence wiping out almost all Scala Inhabitants ) on Destiny Islands
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>>570439872
>>570440006
The keyblade can exist in two places at once. There was no "memory keyblade" involved. Roxas and sora can summon the same keyblade at the same time, later roxas and ven shared theirs
>>570443650
No. It happened at the moment it did in gameplay
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>>570439556
It shows cowardice not drawing the members wearing them. Also what is that larxene one even supposed to be?
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They haven't shown Kairi with KH4 graphics yet. How bad do you think she'll look?
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>>570445881
like she's not even there
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>>570445881
we dont need her
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We won, 2027 incoming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lHbgLEVb94
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Why did they went from "KH4 is never releasing" to "KH4 RELEASES NOW!!!"
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>>570453287
a placeholder date have to be true for no reason
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>>570453287
turns out a tree falling in a forest still makes a sound even if there's no one there to listen
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>>570445881
Who? (laughs)
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>gummi ship runs on smile energy
>forces sdg to smile through the pain
>sora smiling every time he's about to something so stupid that might it wipe his existence
Who the fuck engineered the ship
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I bet Xion smells so good
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>>570456162
Like sea salt.
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>>570456091
two chipmunks
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Do you wanna see more from Kairi or is she fine as she is?
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>>570456091
>Who the fuck engineered the ship
The happiest place on earth.
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>>570456790
I want to see more from everyone
Why do they all fight like ass in cutscenes but gameplay fights have them do shounen slop
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>>570456790
Melody of memory gave me hope
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>>570445881
About that...
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>>570456790
I wouldn't mind seeing her panties again.
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>>570457919
utada hikaru is cute. i liked her song for that csm movie.
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>>570432068
>>570396009
Floaty shit like KH3 and BBS.
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unironically at what point is the delay between KH games just negligence?

it's a little bit of fun at first but it more comes across now like not giving a shit. KH2 to KH3 at least had some of the spin offs. KH3 to 4 has taken far too long considering how the basis was built in 3

how do you bros feel about it? do you feel annoyed? i'm getting old man these waits aren't fun anymore...
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>>570464080
It's just Square Enix management being retarded like usual.
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>have gotten literally every heartless to 1000 except for eggcognito
Where the fuck does this spawn? How do I only have 192? Keep in mind, I only have the first two levels at one star. I'm trying to grind out as much as I can early on.
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>>570464080
that's just what games do nowadays, you wan new game? Wait 10 years
Also, put in disney probably having retarded requests, SE taking a full 3 years period of "rebirth and renew and whatever the fuck" and them also likely having some shit they had to figure out in this time. KH4 was revealed in 2022, by Nomura own words, simply cause it was the anniversary event and they wanted to stave off leaks, not because it was anywhere near ready or something.
Which is very similar to what KH3 did at the end of the day, as very little of that KH3 first "trailer" actually stayed in the final game
plus, missing link was supposed to be the in between game, but SE or Disney or both being retarded they had to pick the gps gimmick (keep in mind BOTH of them eventually made their own gps mobage too, DQ Walk and Disney Step) which led to the game being cancelled, which by virtue of how game development works it means nothing else is replacing it (at least not anytime soon)
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>>570462761
This time try actually explaining, and not parroting the same opinion you got from a KH2 fag in 2018.
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>>570433741
>for some reason
They didn't have any vessels to keep them in the current era.
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>>570464080
SE's strategy of one major AAA release a year is probably to blame.
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>>570433731
https://x.com/lofi_lover0930/status/2065752971712020617?s=20
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This "Xehanort is young because he got younger at the end of KH3" theory doesn't work because he became a teen at the end of KH3, not adult young
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>>570473829
It's also probably not a literal thing that happened in the same way that Terra did not literally see the future
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>>570473829
Meta-wise, you have to consider Nomura didn't have a late teens design for Eraqus in KH3.
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>>570473829
He might've been there for a few years and aged. The idea that it's Young Xehanort from the past who travelled to Quadratum and spent a few years there is a bit convoluted. Plus it wouldn't track with Xehanort's own "14 lives" statement.

My money is on either some form of reincarnation (which they did start to establish in Missing-Link with Player 2) or some data copy shenanigans ie. Xehanort sent a replica of his own heart in the Ark to Unreality, maybe when he was quite young himself, so Quadratum Xehanort doesn't have the same memories as the YX/MX we know. He's closer to his Dark Road characterization. Think of him like a backup of Xehanort that isn't up to date. But since all versions of the same character's hearts are connected (Sora and Data-Sora) maybe Quadratum Nort does have flashes of memory from his other deceased self.

Also UX teased the Strelitzia data copy so Xehanort learning how to do the same thing would make sense.
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Luxord is Jack
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>>570464704
>that's just what games do nowadays, you wan new game?
I don't think so though. Plenty of games churn through sequels. I understand long dev times but this isn't that, this is just taking the piss. There's not even a date still. That's after KH3 got delayed a bunch.
Missing Link was a moblie game, I don't think it counts in the same vein. It just kinda feels disrespectful to fans desu.

>>570464296
>>570468434
You think it's just Square then, nothing else really@?
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>>570479340
Reading >>570437275 though I think Quadratum Xehanort being his past self could work but it does confuse the timelines and how all that works.

All the past keyblade wielders who've "died" seem to have been brought to the same future time period in Unreality for some reason. I guess that's just Nomura doing it for plot convenience.
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>>570480331
If you want to blame Disney thats also acceptable.
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>>570480471
I dunno if it'll be all past wielders, but there are definitely some who may have accidentally crossed over instead of returning to Kingdom Hearts.
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>>570471335
reminds me of pic related
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>>570480331
>Plenty of games churn through sequels
ye and how long it's taking them?
it's getting so bad even DLCs are taking years to be made
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>PS2
KH1
KH2
>PS3
Nothing
>PS4
KH3
>PS5
???
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>>570464442
Anyone?
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>>570481418
I dunno what your post even means
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The new trailer reminded me of the theory I had about Quadratum being the "Nobody" of the Kingdom Hearts world created when the world was plunged into darkness following the Keyblade War. It parallels Sora becoming a Heartless in KH1, creating Roxas but then being restored by Kairi. Only Ephemer and the Dandelions restored the world that was covered by darkness. But similar to Roxas, Quadratum still exists out there. So maybe the arc could be about like MoM wanting to reunite the two realities in order to fix the world and defeat Darkness like Roxas had to return to Sora.

I feel like Nomura touched on these concepts with KH2 and The World That Never Was being a nobody type world but he was never able to expand that idea much so Quadratum is kind of a do-over. Like how Sora disappearing at the end of KH3 was reusing that idea he had for the end of KH1 from the Beta trailer.

idk if they would use the actual Nobody terminology to describe Quadratum though. Maybe Nomura's done with Nobodies/Nothingness now. But Quadratum is a world of neither light nor darkness so technically it is under the same umbrella as Nobodies. Similar to Darkness Quadratum might not have had a concept for the heart but they started growing them along with darkness when keyblade wielders arrived.
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you think sora will have some angst over the fact that keyblade wielders brought destruction/darkness to quadratum?
probably not since they refuse to make sora smarter
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>>570471335
kingdom hearts vcast remake CONFIRMED
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>Devs returned to Tokyo after KH3 was done
>Osaka then made an AAA's BBS without the command deck
BASED
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>>570482445
Cool idea, could be true.
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>>570481731
>even /khg/ hasn't played dark road
What the fuck?
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I’m personally very excited for KH4 and I'm not trying to be a doomer. But can newcomers be expected to care? Or will they just be confused and possibly even bored? I remember people being confused with KH3 trailers like asking about who the blue haired woman was and other such questions, and that was about playable characters in 'real' games.

Huh? OMG is that Vali from the phone game we can’t play anymore?! I’M HYPED
Huh? OMG is that Freya from the phone game that never came out at all?! I’M HYPED
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>>570485692
we did, but just the once fucking 5-4 years ago
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>>570480759
that was technically correct and he had to walk it back
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>>570485692
I just watched the cutscenes
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>>570487039
>that was technically correct
it's why i posted it, even tough the deal really only got made like 2 years later that post. It's the funniest bit about the whole thing, everyone was on board with it but the redtape involved made no one even try until they met by chance at "some convention" (likely TGS), and with no suit in the way they just said "let's do it". Sakurai even said it was late enough that the other characters for the second pass were already set (and deals were already made), cause they were supposed to be 5 like the first pass, so their only choice was to add Sora on top of it and have the pass be 6 characters
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I’ve heard some KH4 images have been leaked to a secret club, but I can’t help but it sounds kinda fake.
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>>570487456
okay /khg/
rate them
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>>570487805
femme siax makes me drool
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>>570487456
>>570487805
Fem!Zexion is best
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>>570488336
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>>570480471
>All the past keyblade wielders who've "died" seem to have been brought to the same future time period in Unreality for some reason
Could be MoM gathering them to one place for the time to destroy the darkness es inside the foretellers
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>>570476817
Didnt this happen with young xehanort already? Where bbs/DDD YX was supposed to look like the KH3 one
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Any other worlds confirmed/strongly evidenced besides Quadratum and Moana?
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MoM's cover art is really cute.
Seeing Sora from kairi's perspective is really sweet.
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>>570493361
star wars copium
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>>570490842
i have this screenshot i had at the time taken directly from the 20th anniversary event, the shadow is here too
in any case if they do remake the phone games they better not just be the exact same but on console, cause the UXDR artstyle is cute and all but i was mostly putting up with it cause of the context, if it's a proper console game i'd like it to be at least a little nicer. Not asking for a full 3D remake, but still
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>>570494028
the real problem is the gameplay lol not the art
ux gameplay would fucking suck for a console game
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Re-watched both UX and DR's endings last night. Considering child Xehanort mentioning there was "a girl with dark hair just like my mom", I'm now on the Subject X is Ava team. Also since Ven, Lauriam, and Elrena all left at the same time and arrived at the same time, Ephemer and Skuld leaving at the same time probably means they also arrived at the same time, just not the same place.
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>>570494487
what do you propose, if we take for certain that i can't be a 3D game(s)? Something like com (gba)?
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>>570494710
turn-BASED
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>>570488336
Interesting that she had a confrontation with most(all?) of the Xehanorts. Terranort, Young Xehanort(optional super boss), Xemnas in Fragmentary Passage, Ansem SOD in 3, and I guess technically Master Xehanort if you count the clone swarm.
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I am extremely surprised Re:union X hasn't been made yet just for the name alone.
I blame the death of handheld gaming and low budget titles.
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>>570494729
so just like UX/DR?
:^)
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>>570495105
>>570494729
just upgrade the recoded tb combat
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>>570494710
Just turn KHUX/DR into a $5 mobile game that has all the same features except no multiplayer or paid gacha. And then as a bonus they include a ML story episode, but in KHUX style.
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NO MORE MOBILE SHIT
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>>570495508
>anon want to do more than 1000 stages of filler again
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>>570495621
Obviously it can be trimmed down.
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>>570458018
how does she feel that Kairi is modeled after her, it's not like she voices the character or really even knows her story, she's admitted years ago she's never played Kingdom Hearts nor really has any interest in the series beyond contract obligations
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>>570494949
Aqua is so hot
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>>570495583
>No, more mobile shit!
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>>570496596
probably feels flattered even if she doesn't care about the franchise
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>>570496664
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>>570496596
Idk... how does Gackt feel about being Genesis in Crisis Core? Probably a similar response.
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Forgot image
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They should totally do a Christian world with Jesus and all his friends and you should get a keyblade with a cross as the keychain... Imagine the kino of playing through parables as minigames.
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Reminder that it took til 2015 for KH3 to show a proper disney world in its third trailer rather than having only a non-descript area with Rock Titan just like how KH4 has non-descript area with Hades fire
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>>570434385
We do have an approximate idea how long she was there. Not that long. Less than a year.

She was gone before Radiant Garden fell, before Ansem the Wise was usurped.
Radiant Garden fell a year after Terra-Xehanort became an apprentice.

BBS was set 10 years before KH1. According to Leon in KH1, Radiant Garden fell 9 years before. So that's about one year of Terra-Xehanort living as an apprentice.
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>>570421464
Why do people even bother making KH theories if nearly none of them will turn out to be true
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>>570499236
This new trailer feels like a mix of the 2015 and Orchestra KH3 trailers. So I imagine the next one might start introducing worlds. But I also don't expect to see another one for like a year.
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>>570500483
>But I also don't expect to see another one for like a year.
i'm gonna bet D23 this year is where they'll show the first disney world (not olympus, a proper new one), and i'm betting it'll be Moana
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>>570500406
i mean sometime we get truths like terra being ansem guardian
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>>570500794
we're also likely gonna get the fortnite/rocket league collab before then
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>>570496995
I am guessing he likes it.
Genesis wasn't the first time he was inserted as videogame character.
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>>570500406
it's fun
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>>570486740
>But can newcomers be expected to care? Or will they just be confused and possibly even bored?
Who cares
There will probably be some marketing with Nomura saying "oh yeah, new players can totally start with IV as it's the beginning of the new Lost Masters Saga" but in reality that's bullshit because Nomura has the balls to say fuck you, get caught up
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>>570498696
Should just be Temple OS.
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>>570505736
Terry as a party member?
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>>570505997
Who
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Is she a virgin? When she first got away from the responsibilities of Keyblade society, I bet she had a wild couple of weeks in the big city.
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>>570506171
She died and never scored with (You)
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>>570506171
she is pure for the player
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>>570506171
She looks like a child what the hell kind of a question is that?
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>>570506171
Is this some kind of Amish fetish
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>>570506171
>I bet she had a wild couple of weeks in the big city.
With what munny?
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>>570505997
I don't understand this image at all
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>>570505997
he also posted about Persona recently
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>sort comments on KH4 teaser by new
>someone is begging square enix to go back to Kingdom Hearts 2 combat because its simpler and 3 is too fast


I dont follow gameplay shit but I thought...people wanted kh2 gameplay because it was fast and snappy or some shit??? What
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>>570508718
the whole discourse around gameplay is tiring because while some people prefer the gameplay of 2, they don't seem to entirely understand why. This is why buzzwords like "floaty" get thrown around in instances where it's not always appropriate to use them.
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>>570506672
With the munny she got from WHORING!
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>>570432068
This reminds me vaguely of SoP's system.
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I like reaction commands from 2 because they make each fight more individually unique and interactive in a way other fights aren't. I miss them in other games.
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>>570509081
The discourse around gameplay, mostly with the KH1 zealots vs KH2 zealots, it's been going on for a while, huh? Remember the six year wait between DDD and KH3? It was all discussed TO DEATH! Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

If only Square-Enix decided to copy Genshin Impact instead of Pokemon Go. Then Missing Link would have actually come out and we'd have more to talk about.
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>>570510429
I know exactly what you mean
https://youtu.be/eOkwK16zTgQ
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>>570510429
>>570511545
SoP is a good game
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>>570510429
How so?
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>>570509081
Personally I just miss utility magic like reflect, kh1 aero, magnet, stop and to a lesser exten gravity.
All the magic in 3 felt too samey for me.
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>>570512980
I just realized that FFBE's Vlad did similar with each killer's body being hijacked.
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>>570513046
What would Roxas and Xion be doing in Twilight Town? Just going to school and enjoying calm normie life? Or would they keep up with fencing training to compete in Struggle? Searching for clues on Sora's whereabouts? Would Lea invite them to help in the search for Subject X? Would they eventually try a different ice cream flavor?
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>>570513876
Enjoying skating, making money and being struggle champions until the rest of the twilight crew need some heavy hitters for something.
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Rosy dancer has built up a lot of shit in her time with Org XIII. She can't really do a lot with it though...
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>>570510429
Everything reminds me of chaos.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n18oiEzBLRg&t=245s
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>>570396009
if you notice when he is attacking the darkside with his normal attacks, they seem super fast, much faster than KH3. they really didn't show anything but what they showed seems interesting. we don't know how it feels yet but i don't think there is anything to worry about
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Is roxas canonically the character that owns the most keychains?
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>>570526841
Yeah, I think Sora may come close and then after that, maybe Player?
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On one hand if Sora, Xehanort, and Strelitiza become a trio in KH4 that'll be pretty fucking awesome. On the other i'll be pissed because Sora, Riku, and Kairi haven't been together since the START OF THE SERIES. I don't know if Nomura keeps writing situations that unintentionally keep them apart or is doing it on purpose but it makes me mad as hell. Kairi especially could use some time to do more things, or at least speak to people more. Shit i'd kill just for Kairi and Riku to hang out, the two of them. Is Nomura saving the SRK trio for the last game?
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>>570528131
I don't think we'll ever get an SRK game. The numbered titles are all about SDG, and we don't really get experimental handheld games anymore. On top of that, Sora now has a looong line of phone game characters waiting to be introduced to. So he has even less time for his Destiny Islands besties. Never ever!

The franchise also seems oddly obsessed with pulling friends apart and rarely letting us see them travel together as a group. It's interesting how the series explores the strength of friendship and love across worlds, or even across realms, as seen in Fragmentary Passage. But come on already, at a certain point you just want these friend groups to go on an adventure together already.

The Days trio is one of the few exceptions, since they actually got to spend meaningful time together. But funnily enough, the story was largely about people trying to separate them, right up until it all ended in tragedy.
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>>570530932
>The numbered titles are all about SDG
i'm betting Kh4 will be different
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>>570531143
Hades 'kills' them and that's how they get sent to Quadratum. I don't have anything against Sora making new traveling buddies, but like I said before, the numbered games are always SDG. What the trailers have shown so far is the very early game before the duck and dog show up. Probably.

To further argue my SDG point, Strelitzia is never seen fighting alongside Sora against the Darkside kaiju or the normal sized Heartless. Maybe her Keyblade is broken like what happened with Riku? Also, this series likes to keep Sora in a constant confused state of HUHHH WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! You can't have that if Strelitzia is standing next to Sora and calmly explaining the details of Quadratum to him. The status quo is forever! Sora must be confused. And Sora must travel with a duck and dog. I'm not defending the status quo, just pointing it out.
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What's the point of hyping Sora in Quadratum when we know he'll end up with Donald and Goofy for the rest of the game anyway? Kinda ruins the melancholic ending of KH3
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2026... I am forgotten.
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>>570531143
nope
during the prologue it'll cut to Donald and Goofy making a deal with Hades to go to Quadtratum, the screenshot of the blue and yellow lights from last year will be them crashing into the city and be the final blow that kills the neo darkside. part of the way sora will return to his reality will be carrying out some task for hades while there, that's why james woods was gassing up his role for 4 (he's got a bigger role to play in this one)

screencap this
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If Critical Mode is in day one, will you play it?
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>>570536360
Yeah. I only play Kh games on their highest difficulty.
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>>570536360
I mean sure.
I'm past the days I would debase myself by playing standard.
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>>570436572
Sonis sora gonna highly piss off xehanort and that's why he was such a dick in 3
Or was he just that petty because Woody called him a friendless loser after he had just survived a school keyblading where he had to put his friend down
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>>570513876
>Searching for clues on Sora's whereabouts?
According to remind namine was going through their memories to try and see if they could figure out where sora was
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You know, everyone is hoping for a Disney/Pixar/Lucasfilm/Marvel World. And while I want those worlds too. I think the number of responses from people really wanting more FF rep in KH 3 could've gotten to the team. But I don't think they'll just give us a small cameo or anything small. Give us a Final Fantasy World. Preferably a Dissidia-type world where it's just FF fanservice and all these characters meeting Sora for the first time. But alas one could dream.
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>>570542786
they kinda teased sephi in the last trailer with the black feathers and if he is back, so is cloud and the gang
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>>570542786
Jack garland party member where he helps out sora if sora will help him kill chaos
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>>570542786
The more I think about it. If it's anything like Dissidia NT. Where the warriors of light fight Spiritus Dark Champions in the wasteland. Could trigger some serious Deja Vu with Sora experience in the Keyblade Graveyard
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>>570542786
I honestly have no idea what the fuck they were smoking by making this random ass heartless the superboss in 3.
It wasn't even a bad fight, but you have so many ips and games to draw from why make the superboss just a borderline stock heartless instead of a disney character like zurg or a FF character like gilgamesh.
You even had the perfect setpiece for a gilgamesh bossfight, but 3 had a notoriously troubled dev cycle so I'll just chalk it up to that.
I just hope 4 will be a return to form, because there are some things not even related to the combat that I really missed from 3.
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>>570542786
>Give us a Final Fantasy World

Boy have I got some news for you. Have you heard about this Final Fantasy game called Final Fantasy Versus 13? You're not going to believe this but there's a rumour going around that Nomura used all the ideas and characters for that to make Quadratum. :DDD
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>>570533180
>What's the point of hyping Sora being lost in Traverse Town we know from he's going to find Donald and Goofy
>What's the point of hyping Sora being asleep while Roxas is in Twilight Town? We all know we're going to play as Sora anyways.

To answer your question seriously he's been gone from a year and has no idea where he is. We see him super emotional probably about that and then he runs into Xehanort lol. And the tradeoff of saving him is probably going to be something considering he didnt just travel to Quadratum on his own he was sent there by the universe itself. Hard choices, dilemmas, tragedy, plot developments etc. There could even be a cost when Sora crosses over like Yozora's enemies could start invading KH if not his own army. Sora is
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>>570532549
>Maybe her Keyblade is broken like what happened with Riku?

We have only seen that ninja guys keyblade out of Ava, Sigurd, Xehanort, Strelitzia, and Sora so I wouldnt count it out. One of the best parts of KH3 was we could FINALLY have more than 3 party members so at least some of these characters are probabaly extra party members. At least I hope so.
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>>570530932
>The franchise also seems oddly obsessed with pulling friends apart and rarely letting us see them travel together as a group.

Holy shit I only just realized that's why Nomura went for 'bros on a camping trip'for Versus 13. Its the polar opposite to how Sora, Kairi and Riku can never stay together after Destiny Islands.

Maybe we'll see groups mixed around. Bentus is extremely important to the lore and Kairi will be training with him right? Maybe theyll have to go to Quadratum together?
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>>570545272
>answer your question seriously he's been gone from a year
I do wonder was sora conscious the year he was missing?
basically what I'm wondering is if from his perspective kh1 still only happened a few months ago
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Honestly if you're that starved for Final Fantasy as a KH fan, why not just... play Final Fantasy? They have like a billion games come out between every KH game. Hell, the whole main MMO is about FF references. That has to be more satisfying than five minutes of an FF thing being nothing like their selves.
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>>570545696
It's not impossible. Kairi might end up finding the Ark from KHUX, though I imagine that would happen fairly late in the game. She'd likely need time to regain her strength with Aqua's training and narratively it would make sense for her and whoever is traveling with her (TAV?) to arrive in the nick of time to help stop a powerful villain and/or foil some dastardly plot that caught Sora and Riku by surprise.
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>>570546450
>the KH fan who wants FF7 stuff again (Sephiroth boss) yet somehow isn't satisfied with a three game remake, a prequel remaster, and an ongoing gacha
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>>570546450
The logic is simple. People just wanna see an FF character in KH, see how they interact with Sora for example, see how they're changed up for KH[if some understand that KH FF chars are AU versions that is] and maybe fight 'em with KH's combat....while also getting a bit of a kick outta seeing a recognizable FF char just fuckin'...standing in the same room as a disney character.

Playing FF doesn't exactly give that specific experience.
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>>570546862
None of that was as good as "Sora it's Sephiroth" and in fact all of that ruined ffvii
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>>570543984
I wish they would have given us another Disney super boss like julius
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>>570547654
I miss those in general as well.
Fighting the titans in the coliseum was really cool.
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>>570360348
>Who the fuck is Vali?
Same reaction brah
It sucks not being up to date on who's who.
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>>570547063
>Playing FF doesn't exactly give that specific experience.

Summon Hades in FF7 he's the horned king from the Black Cauldron.
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>>570546027
Wasnt he only asleep for 7 days in thr first trailer? So 358 days lol. There could be different time axises though.
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>>570546862
I know people who complained about no FF characters but never played FF before. I think people are just parroting nothing most of the time.
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358/2 days could be the best KH game
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>>570546862
How is any of that relevant to Kingdom Hearts? The FF characters in Kingdom Hearts are half FF and half original. That's why it was disappointing for them to not at least show up in KH3's base game. It would have helped Twilight Town feel less neutered if Seifer and the gang were around. It would have been nice to see Leon and the gang in Radiant Garden instead of just focusing on Ienzo even if we couldn't go there. They helped make the worlds feel more alive. Even the FF7 content was something that was a recurring storyline throughout 1, 2 and BBS with it being notable enough to get kept in CoM and Coded's Olympus.
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I have a burning hatrid for FF fags, FUCK OFF WE DON'T WANT YOUR SLOP IN KH GAMES.
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I never touched KH Cross, Union Cross, Dark Road and all that stuff. I feel like there's going to be a bunch of references and characters showing up that i'm supposed to understand, but won't. The only reason I partially understood what happened at the end of KH3 is because of that mini movie that came with it.
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SebbyWebz has really created a group of complete morons online
>MUH CLASSIC FF
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>>570480931
>>ye and how long it's taking them?
literally none take as long as KH
God of war reboot released a year before KH3, has a sequel and is about to get a spinoff. that's a bigger budget and one of sony's flagships. and that's just the game on my mind because i saw coverage of it. only an incredibly small handful of titles have this kind of wait for an ongoing story. KH2 was 2006. It's 2026. We got only KH3 in that time. I don't think you'd find any series that in almost 20 years has only released 1 mainline title. It's ridiculous desu.
>>570480624
i suppose
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>>570560393
>showing up that i'm supposed to understand, but won't.


Why do you think you're supposed to know who they are? Sora doesnt know whats going on and will be exposition dumped on. And some of the characters are from a dead game.

We didnt know who the mystery niggas were at the end of the KH1 secret ending either. People skipped 1 to 2 and didnt know who Namine was but they explained that. I swear Nomura said somewhere he made it so you could play 2 without playing CoM.
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>>570562451
Half Life 3 though...
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Aerial combat is not automatically floaty
This is 14 minutes of not touching the ground yet it is not floaty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGKD7ydO8Y
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>>570360238
Am i the only one not hyped by the trailer of kingdom hearts 4 ?
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>>570565038
yes
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>>570564735
>Aerial combat is not automatically floaty
Sorry but the lemmings who only repeat what others said decided that's what it meant. Having the same flexibility in the air as the ground? Nope that means nothing.
Sometimes it feels like the only solution is just remove air combat entirely.
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Why does Larxene have a totally different personality as opposed to her somebody?
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>>570566606
bullshit retcon
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>>570566606
Because becoming a Nobody outright fucks with people not named Xemnas, Namine, and Roxas
That, plus the gaslighting by Xemnas
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>>570567382
I know Xemnas is a manipulator but turning her into a sadistic dom? What did Xemnas do?
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>>570566606
she landed right at Maleficent's doorsteps when daybreak town fell, i'd say that has to do with it
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>>570566606
Pretty sure in UX Elrena's chirithy questions why she was being nice to others. So the answer seems to be it's an act. Why? Only reason I can think of is she has thing for Lauriam. No idea if she would've been as bad as Larxene.
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>run dark road for 24 hours straight
>can get one card complete
This is the most grindy game since Union x.
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>>570573562
i'm pretty sure it was even grindier while it was live, as in with monetization and shit. I remember doing as most gold tricholoma fights as i could but keeping all the points unspent before the game got taken offline, when they brought it back for the last bit of plot i just levelled up everything no issue
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>>570543984
>making this random ass heartless the superboss
Because KH1 did it? Seriously I wish there were more optional non humanoid bosses.
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>>570566606
Because she was younger and therefore different? What kinda retarded question is this
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>>570542939
>black feathers
Someone didn't play the mobile games and it shows.
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>>570577703
What's your point?
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>>570577586
Dark inferno is a humanoid boss
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>>570445357
Looks like a leotard
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The day Nomura reveals he is an FF character is the day this fandom explodes.
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>>570584457
Who?
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>>570360348
>Who the fuck is Vali?
Upperclassman at Scala ad Caelum, where prospective Keyblade knights learned the ins and outs in a dormitory classroom setting. Master Odin took on two classes, and Xehanort was part of the younger class. At some point the upperclassmen disappeared, so the lowerclassmen were assigned scouting missions across the worlds to go look for them. However, one of Xehanort's classmates, a boy named Baldr, got it in his head that his older sister, one of the upperclassmen, was dead. In his panic he was isolated, and then drowned in his own burgeoning darkness, becoming possessed by it. He traveled across the land, and with his own unique lethal Heartless he slaughtered the missing upperclassmen, including his own sister, then killed most of his own class too.

Xehanort and Eraqus fought and defeated him, and Xehanort summarily executed him rather than spare him or try to redeem him. The whole school shooting deeply soured Xehanort's demeanor and opinion on people, setting him up for his appearances in DDD and KH3 as Young Xehanort.
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Where's the Nomura interview? There' always a Nomura interview after news drops....
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I genuinely cannot imagine being an adult in the year 2026 and liking a series where Mickey Mouse talks about the darkness in people's hearts. Jesus Christ lol
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Nothing says "we're back" like tourists dropping drive by hot takes.
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>>570585662
So why are you here then?
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>>570585841
I'm not a tourist. I'm 33, I used to be a huge fan of the series as a kid. Now I'm a bitter adult who plays fighting games.
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>>570585117
Holy fuck that's dark. What the hell did I just read?
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>>570586067
Welcome to Kingdom Hearts: Dark Road.
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>>570584715
The joke is only funny when you aren't aware of where they're going
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>>570494949
Aqua is built for bikinis~
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>>570585924
>fighting games.
so you're still mentally a child
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>>570585117
Why didn't they become heartless and nobody? Does this mean Sora is a pacifist?
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https://x.com/Key_Cast/status/2066192734147211362?s=20
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>>570587392
You become a Heartless and Nobody when your heart becomes swallowed by darkness, or stolen by a Heartless. If a Heartless decides to instead just kill you that's it.

>Does this mean Sora is a pacifist?
Absolutely not lmao. His first choice when facing opponents is usually lethal violence.
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>>570587370
Hilarious coming from the faggot who plays a game with Disney characters. And I'm not even saying Disney is bad. I saw Hoppers with my gf back in October, I loved it.
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>>570587519
isn't it just pic related?
then again SE owns this and it's even as is in the new dissidia mobage, so they would've probably used it as is here too if it was?
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>>570566606
Losing your memories, and living some years around is bound to change you
>somebody
Not what they are called
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>>570569920
Elrena isn't mean, just rather indifferent to other people. That's why her Chirithy thought it was strange she cared about someone else that much. Seems to me that Elrena and Lauriam obtained new personalities upon losing their memories and starting anew as Nobodies, like Roxas.
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>>570507168
Same... Who is Gene Hackerman, and why is he posting about KH4? What is "the weeknd"? and why is there a black guy in front of a square enix background.
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>>570594746
>What is "the weeknd"?
Friday-Sunday
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>>570585575
He's not director anymore. Hamaguchi is.
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>>570597538
You wish
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>>570360238
So will the Switch 2 collection include the GBA card game remake? Is it even worth playing?
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>>570599719
RE;COM has always been apart of KH1.5
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>>570599719
>Is it even worth playing?
You could get away without playing it until KH3 came out, but it'd make some stuff in KH3 make a lot more sense.
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>>570599719
honestly just watch the cutscenes online, RECOM is just a worse version of the original GBA game
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>>570599719
Re:COM is great, build a magic deck and watch your dick explode.
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Was there ever an in-universe explaination for magic? Does it relate to light? How come Goofy can affect heartless? I never really found out any of these things. I mean I know about like data Riku and Sora for the most part, but some of the other worldbuilding eludes me.
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>>570604197
>How come Goofy can affect heartless?
they all can, the keyblade's only difference is that it can release the heart inside that heartless. Other weapons just destroy the heartless that will just reform somewhere else
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>>570604502
Oh. Cool! Thanks!
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I've beaten KH3 multiple times and I'm ashamed to admit that I never successfully found all the Lucky Emblems on my own.
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>>570604197
Anything can destroy a heartless, but only the keyblade can stop it from reforming later.
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>>570604875
Sorry if I find that to be complete bullshit based on game logic because the same heartless would respawn in the exact same place when you re-enter an area.
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>>570605195
>the same heartless would respawn in the exact same place when you re-enter an area.
But they literally do
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Build seems pretty interesting but if it's the MAIN thing battle is built around for KH4 it seems kinda limited. Like if you can switch out keyblades like in Kh3 that helps but still, 2 commands that bare minimum can change into one more command, is not that much. It's kinda like BBS' command styles mixed with situation commands. Now if you have transformations/forms and build is just a supplement that would be crazy but they've never mentioned it. Well they haven't used any magic either so maybe there's more to see hopefully. Hope they still have summons too. I wonder if they'll have shotlocks and airstep still?
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>>570605416
We are seeing build at its most base form, it will do much more.
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>The heartless have great fear of the keyblade. That's why they'll keep coming after you. No matter what
This is way back at the start of KH1. Do you suppose keyblade wielders in general are the reason the Heartless are showing up in Quadratum, or is it more conceptual due to the world they come from?
Say murder never existed in Quadratum, then the most notorious murderer of all time shows up. People are suddenly becoming killers?
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>>570605551
That's the reason you get heartless random encounters. It's definitely more of a conceptual thing. In fact, I believe Dark Road had something like that, where Xehanort and Eraqus perceiving the Queen of Hearts as a bad person spawned a heartless, iirc. It's also something that started in KH3, where Larxene wanted to know whether Elsa would define her inherent powers as good or bad, that is to say, as light or darkness.
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>>570605416
it's really too early say, we've only really gotten our first taste of it
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Reminder that pic is better than Terra, Terranort was beaten so hard he didn't have a chance to summon Cum Guardian. He didn't need any darkness powers because his massively better keyblade transformations carried him. The only moves he has in common with Terra are Ultima Cannon and using the Keyblade Glider that Terra doesn't ram people with. Even Terra is so ashamed of being inferior that he refuses to use Ends of the Earth throughout KH3 because he knows he;s unworthy of it and sticks with Earthshaker.
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>>570609210
While undoubtedly the coolest bastard in the franchise, he did in fact get one-shot by big dick Terranort. Which felt like a total load despite the headshot. Vanitas' keyblade wave should have torn straight through Terra's armor in that case
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>>570610072
>>570609727
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>>570609383
stop posting sora new wife, kairi will get angry
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Reminder that Terra could've regained his body by himself but Aqua helped Terraanort disguised as Terra (who would've been exposed if Aqua could notice the keyblade but she couldn't notice Ven with the X-Blade) beat up Cum Guardian. Terra wanted to flee to the Realm of Darkness not to save Aqua but because her recent helping of domestic abuse was too much and he wanted an escape.
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>>570610167
Huh I never noticed Terra is wielding No Name there.
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>>570610167
>by himself
Eraqus? That's likely half the reason Luxu doesn't have a torrent of souls within him.
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>>570610275
*Terranort disguised as Terra
Remember how KH3 Terranort first appeared as Terra's hair and skin clor.
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>>570610375
Why would Terranort try to help Aqua fight against himself?
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>>570610456
Cum guardian is Terra. Terranort is fighting against Terra. Aqua showed up and helped Terranort.
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>>570610681
No.
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>>570599719
>set up sleight deck
>spam triangle during encounters while doing literally anything else
Or you could watch the cutscenes.
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>>570610681
The Guardian is not Terra, though. It was just used by Xehanort to confine Terra's heart.
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>>570610932
If you rattle the cage, it affects the person inside. Attacking the confines hurts inside.
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>>570609210
He is terra.
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>>570610375
>Remember how KH3 Terranort first appeared as Terra's hair and skin clor.
How did I never notice this before?
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>>570612212
No wonder Pinocchio was struggling after Parasite Cage.
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>>570610856
Aqua posted this in an attempt to hide her shame and KHIII incompetence.
>>570612304
Terra posted this in an attempt to make himself look better when LW is better.
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>>570612453
>How did I never notice this before?
Pretty shocking admission when Ven runs up to brunette Terranort under the assumption he's Terra.
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>>570612453
You weren't paying attention.
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Did they ever explain where Ansem's physical appearance came from? Is this what Xehanort looked like in his 20s-40s?
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>>570612807
Probably.
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>>570612807
Riku theorizes in KH3 that Ansem looks like he does because he's basing his appearance on Riku.
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>>570605416
i imagine you only start out with 2 build commands (per keyblade) and then get more by leveling forms or whatever
i think the system will get a full on skill tree by the way, but that's just my headcanon
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>>570612959
I assumed Riku was talking about the fact that Ansem was able to get a body of his own at all was because he had possessed him, not anything to do with his appearance which looks nothing like Riku.
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Is this X-Blade different than KH3's?
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>>570612453
Aqua posted this because she couldn't notice Ven's giant, glowing X-Blade and needed Mickey to save her, which completely explains why she didn't notice anything wrong with the "Terra" in >>570610167 holding the wrong keyblade either.
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>>570613141
It's an unstable and incomplete version of it. The proper synthesis method calls for 13 pure darknesses and 7 pure lights, while Xehanort forced a 1:1 synthesis. As such things weren't in balance, and light consumed darkness and the sword was destroyed. It probably would've been destroyed too had Vanitas won and vanquished Ven.
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>>570613141
>X-Blade
is the same, more quality after all bbs is a psp game
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>>570613428
>As such things weren't in balance, and light consumed darkness and the sword was destroyed
But that was Ven winning.
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>>570613398
>Described as thoughtful and studious mage
>Does not notice this massive detail
What was her problem?
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>>570613614
Yes, that's what I said. 1:1 is not the proper balance, 7:13 is. Ven won and defeated Vanitas, but rather than Ven inheriting the X-Blade, the sword was destroyed. It's only stable when balance is reached.
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>>570613962
But there was nothing about inheriting it. Vanitas said the x blade was part of him too and tried getting him to join together.
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>>570614128
Vanitas also claimed keyblade wielders would flock to the graveyard as a result of the x-blade being forged. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>570614381
But Mickey did. And the blade was broken too quick for anyone else to come.
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>>570610137
Kairi will be fine. There are plenty of guys who would want to go fuck her. If anything if she won't end up with Sora cause of Nomuras bull shit then she will probably be having sex with Ventus.
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>>570613475
Sora was given that weapon by a defeated master. So it's officially his, right? Could Sora summon it if he thought to do so?
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>>570615178
No.
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>>570614538
>years go by, Sora is always pulled away from her by constant adventures with Donald and Goofy
>she loves Sora but decides to start dating others because she can't wait forever
The thought of it makes me sad.
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>>570615178
something something losing all his powers again
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>>570585117
That also explains eraqus being so hard against darkness. He thought Terra was gonna be another baldr
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>>570605551
>The heartless have great fear of the keyblade. That's why they'll keep coming after you. No matter what
If they fear the keyblade why do they chase the keyblade wielder? Are they stupid?
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>>570615565
>Tarzan physically hands Sora a keychain
>Donald, Goofy, and Cloud physically hand Sora abilities
>These are gone somehow
Its not fair. Kid's got holes in his pockets.
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>>570391014
>Marvel world or Invincible world or any metropolitan city that will look no different from Quadratum
I do want an MCU world but you are right that just using New York would be too similar to Quadratum. Thor Ragnarok would be cool since it's mostly in Sakaar and Asgard and would give us both Thor and Hulk as party members but I don't think they would debut Marvel without Iron Man and Captain America
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>>570615923
In fact there's no reason why Sora shouldn't have had access to Oathkeeper from the very beginning of KH2. Where was he keeping that good luck charm all that time?
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>>570616192
What if each Marvel character/property was its own world instead of cramming everything into New York like usual? For example...

Captain America has War World, an exhausted war torn under constant siege by Hydra armies. Blade has Vampire World, a Castlevania-ish place. Hulk has Nuclear Apocalypse World, Thor has Mythology World, Ant-Man has Micro World, Doctor Strange has Magic World, Iron Fist has Tournament World, etc.
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>>570616754
Thor especially would benefit from having his own world, since Nomura is diving into Norse Mythos of late. Its ripe for leaning into Dark Road.
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>>570615729
Fear is close to sexual desire. This is how the suspension bridge effect works.
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>>570616754
I don't dislike the idea on itself but assuming the game will have 6 or 7 disney worlds I don't want marvel taking the bulk of them
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>>570616983
>Nomura is diving into Norse Mythos of late
I sleep
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>>570618194
Its a wonder it didn't happen sooner, honestly.
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>>570618194
Is he gonna became a white supremecist I nazi too?
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>>570618194
Better than Claude Mythos.
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>>570610167
>>570610375
>>570610681
This is pure headcanon. Firstly If this was how it happened it would have been made clear, either in an ultimania or mentioned in game (for example in kh3, he could have told aqua she "fell for it again").
And secondly, when you use it you do damage to terranort
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>>570619610
Wouldn't that burn her tongue off
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>>570619591
>Firstly If this was how it happened it would have been made clear, either in an ultimania or mentioned in game (for example in kh3, he could have told aqua she "fell for it again").
It is there. KH3 Aqua is a massive incompetence who can't do anything right. She got possessed and couldn't barrier to block Vanitas but held her arms out. She needed constant saving. The thought that Aqua did a single productive or beneficial action instead of screwing over her own side is unthinkable. KH3 must retroactively show that all of Aqua's past actions contributed more to Xehanort's plans than any positive for the good guys.
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>>570619591
It's just some favela-monkey spouting retarded bullshit. Ignore him and he'll go away.
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>>570615178
Would be cool if he whips it out at some point when all seems lost.
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>>570619870
something something leidenfrost effect but fictionalized
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>>570619591
>And secondly, when you use it you do damage to terranort
>terra's body
Yes, hurting terra's body would hurt terra. If you saw his arm off, would xehanort be more hurt than terra?
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>>570620195
We are owed Bahamut summon.
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>>570620195
>artist is so fucking retarded he draw red eyes dragon
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Aqua is replying to herself to salvage her reputation.
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>>570619591
>Firstly If this was how it happened it would have been made clear
>KH
>making things clear
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>>570620195
It's time to kill Chaos.
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>>570620302
Terranort is magic. This is why spending 10+ years as a scientist didn't make Terra unathletic and why Terra's body respawned 10 years younger. So of course if you ripped Terra's head off, all the damage is transferred to Xehanort and Terra's severed head will start speaking just fine when Terra regains control.
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>>570620721
If Terra DID become that way, it'd explain why Xehanort dying of old age would choose to bench Terranort so hard rather than risk having a heart attack in the middle of fighting Sora. Just do the same shit he did in BBS again or possessing him like Young Xehanort in 3D. Terranort's time travelling Heart + Xehanort's on top of it would clearly suppress Terra's if Terra can't siinglehandedly push out Terranort's without outside help weakening Terranort.
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>>570620721
That explains everything.
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Reminder that Xehanort willfully ordered YX to avoid picking up Zebraman during his time travels getting people. This is because he knew he would be overshadowed as a final boss.
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Why can't Ansem use this outside KH1?
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>>570622008
He'd be hit by King Mickey's tax policy.
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>>570622008
Xenmas have a dragon so why not
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>>570622319
>>570622008
Why didn't master xehanort get a giant starship
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>>570622319
That's Zebraman only
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Why is Riku so much taller than Sora in 2?
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>>570622675
Puberty
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Those clothes are too Old Nort to be a coincidence.
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I'd hold Xion's hand.
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When Zebraman died, he kept the hearts when respawning. This means that Terra and Xehahort respawned physically healthier than before. This is also why they could defeat LW. And why Terranort survived Zettaflare. Because of Aqua's domestic abuse injuries that carried ever to Xemnas finally healed. That is also why KH3 Xemnas has moves KH1 and phase 1 Xemnas doesn't have, because replica bodies don't have the same Aqua inflicted pain.
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>>570622915
Why would it be a coincidence? They're the same person.
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>>570622915
If that's a form he assumed and heartlesses are naked, are those technically his body?
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>>570622462
Is it? Because you only fight Armored Xemnas during the dragon section.
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Riku might possibly be gay.
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>>570395695
Most of the action in Incredibles 1 happens in Syndrome's island, you would only move to the city for the final robot fight
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>>570624052
It's after absorbing the homemade kh so he's zebraman underneath.
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>>570624286
Fair enough.
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>steam sales
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Which nort is underneath?
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>>570625123
Me.
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>>570625123
Aquanort
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>>570625123
Meow Wownort
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>>570624061
Why is Sora attached to so many white haired autists? Now Xehanort is gay for him too.
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>>570625628
Half the cast being the same person do that
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>>570625753
Clones everywhere
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>>570623597
I'd suck xion's cock
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>>570624267
If we have Moana we wouldnt need another repeat tropical island
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>>570628623
She doesn't have that.
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>>570628725
Yes she does
She is a trans girl
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>>570622915
I still think its absolute pottery that Ansem has Sora's colorscheme
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>>570628657
You know Lilo and Stitch also takes place on a tropical island
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>>570622915
They're too whatsherbutt from Dark Road. Urd?
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>>570628823
No she isn't.
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>>570629005
Yeah but we never visited hawaii because japan hates Lilo
They hated Lilo so much they had stitch betray the fucking theme of the movie in the anime
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Fuck Marvel, Fuck the Incredibles. This is the Disney owned Superhero we need in Kingdom Hearts 4.
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>>570629084
Yes she is. She is a replica of a boy who sees herself as a girl no matter how others see her
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>>570629302
Xion isn't a replica anymore.
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You think there is a reason why the foretellers are all hooded?
Like why hide what they all look if they all are just random niggers.
Does it mean anything that Aced and Terra's keyblade look similiar or is it just a coincidence?
Will they all just be clones of characters we have seen before?
Like Roxas and Xemnas being mystery niggas makes sense in kh1, because xemnas looks like Ansem and Roxas was supposed to look like Sora.
Same goes to a lesser extens to the bbs trio+ vanitas, but they all got unmasked in kh2 fm, except for Vanitas for obvious reasons.
Then we have MF who is kept hooded, because he is time traveling young xehanort.
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>>570629005
>You know Lilo and Stitch also takes place on a tropical island


Ok but what is your point its probably not in KH4 either
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>>570629559
dont worry now that he is young sora will like it
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>>570629476
The names MoM gave to them isnt their real names either right?
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>>570629476
Hate to say it, but they've been hooded for so long at this point that what little mystique of them potentially being our character's forefathers or AUs or whatever has been absolutely wasted. I'd rather they be random niggas.
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>The truth is what you see with your eyes, not what you hear.

Does anyone know what this line is in Japanese because I can't tell if it's intentionally contradictory as a hint or if its just a bad translation.

Because Master of Mastere TOLD Xehanort this. So if the truth isn't what you hear, and it's what you see with your eyes then that's not true.
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>>570630065
Itll be funny when Ava takes off her black cloak and her fox mask robes pop out. They're basically their masks at this point like a Superhero who is more their costumed self then civilian.
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>>570630404
Spiderman
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>>570624786
What if after I finish my backlog in the year 2100 the games I could have bought today cost a million dollars each because of inflation?
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>>570629476
Marluxia, Demyx, Saix, Luxord, Xigbar, and Xaldin were all hidden before despite none of them being known characters
Sometimes hiding characters is just for vibes or because their designs aren't finalized
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If Sora stayed as a Heartless long enough for Roxas to have memories, does this mean he will just be an emo Sora?
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>>570631591
>Marluxia, Demyx, Saix, Luxord, Xigbar, and Xaldin were all hidden before despite none of them being known characters
I think they are different since they all get revealed in the same game they get introduced.
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>>570632115
He would just be Sora.
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>>570629879
Correct. Their identities are essentially their masks.
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>>570630256
He's just saying that the truth is what you witness for yourself, not what's told to you.
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>>570630065
Mentions of Magia and Aegis were cut from that Toy Box scene, and we've yet to see them in any trailer material. With Luxord seemingly easily able to transport himself between Quadratum and Realm of Light, maybe Magia and Aegis are two of the foretellers at this point?
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Is CoM supposed to be this grindy?
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>>570637169
COM isn't grindy unless you're going for every enemy card.
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>>570614538
Wow, this is an artist i didn't expect to see again
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>>570637594
I'm not supposed to collect lionhearts and oblivion cards?
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>>570584457
He already revealed it, Disney adult tourists don't want to accept it
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>>570584457
What's with the scaled leather on his glove? Dragon? Bahamut?
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>>570620195
>>570620403
thought it was RYBD too
should Sora really be summoning dark-type monsters like that?
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>>570533180
I predict Donald and Goofy will have very restricted roles in this reality, like how they were only cards in CoM.
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Why can't MoM just be some ancient guy
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>>570647670
Consequence of making him a mystery nigga for too long.
The longer you wait to reveal something the more insane the theories get.
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>>570622915
They are the same person and those are literally the same clothing
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Wonder if this was always the plan the Xehanort since making him the Organization member for Toy Box.
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>>570647997
True. I'm sure there'll be thematic parallels to existing characters anyway. But his face being hidden is a standard thing with KH villains the problem is Nomura revealed MoM over a decade before he was going to be center stage in a game. It's like Xemnas in KH1 and the first half of KH2 but extremely stretched out. So I think we could get a face reveal in KHIV unless Nomura's decided he likes MoM more faceless which would work. Who knows if we'll ever see the Foretellers faces fully on screen either.
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>>570654739
>But his face being hidden is a standard thing with KH villains
Yes, but also >>570632143
Nomura usually reveals their faces right away if their appearance isn't important.
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>>570647997
Remember how even when he was alone he'd still be goofy and talk to himself like a weirdo?
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I wonder if they're going to do a Nihilius in that they have other characters see underneath the mask but never show it to the player. The reaction from other characters is
>It's just some guy
To say underneath all his power and influence, he's just a regular guy.

A big theme for KotOR 2 is what is everyone without their defining powers. Even 3D sorta did this with characters saying if Sora's all about his friends, then what's he in a vacuum without his friends? To which Xehanort thought Sora was hollow enough to try and Nort him after isolating him.

For MoM, if there's any need to show if he's a normal guy, if he's pathetic, if whatever he is underneath all his knowledge, power, and influence, then not showing his face but showing other character reactions might work but it's tricky to pull off without disappointment.
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>>570659495
He's the best actor in the universe. He flawless switches between voices inside his head and out. Tobi is a good boy.
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Reminder that we never saw Xehanort in his original body but his physical prime.
>Old
>Time traveling youngster
>Terranort
>Nobody
>Heartless
>Simulation of Keyblade Armor
But never his adult self in his original body.
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Luxu got so mad he shot at Xehanort.
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Who is DaD?
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>>570660958
>Luxu got so mad he shot at Xehanort.
At what point do you think Nomura made Xigbar luxu.
I 100% doubt he had this planned since 2 or even bbs.
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>>570661883
Darkness after Darkness
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>>570659937
That means there should be a 40-50 year gap. And that's a lot.



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