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Shadria
Douge
Tails!
>>570367778I need people to stop posting this fucking quote where he literally says its his headcanon. No one cares.
>>570367778>Says Sonic characters are literally animals>Severely sexualizes them
Shadow 05
Why did you make this thread about me?Who are you people?
>>570368124It’s just one of the many reminders that Death of the Author would buckbreak this general
>>570368170These animals are fuckinghot!
>>570359550 #>>570359947 #
What's next for Knuckles the Echidna, fifth most popular character in the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise?I hate foreigners.
>>570368110Yeah!
Shadow the Hedgehog is overrated.
Silver is such a boring character with barely any content why do people like him
>>570368030Cute and canon>>570367974Retarded
>>570368663Is Knuckles the fifth most popular overall? It seems like he's in the top 3 in the west while in the east he's somewhere in the top 7
>>570368663Slowly going back to being irrelevant after his 5 minutes of fame just like we said.Then his fans will bitch, they will force him into more things, he will come off as an idiot, people will complain about that, rinse and repeat.
>>570368882well you see in japa
Oriental philosophy ruined Sonic
>>570368882There are people out there who actively like the things that you don't.
>>570368979From Japan character poll.Rouge surprisingly absent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=338HJAByixs
>>570368663Movie Knuckles' design is really good tnh.
>>570369473>Rouge surprisingly absentHow did she lose to fucking JET?
>>570368783Hi <3
>>570369734Sonic's wife on the right.
Tails in utero
>>570369901Hello!
>>570369473Not all that surprising when flirtatious women are universally disliked over cute blobs (Amy and Cream) and the socially awkward (Blaze). Doesn't help that if they do have fans, they get outnumbered by gooners who are then looked at as the real fans
>*tilts head*WAIT WAIT WAIT>The otokoyaku physically guide the musumeyaku through waltzes, dramatic turns, and stage walks. Every hand placement, step-off, and directional change is initiated by the male role, with the female role instinctively anticipating and following the lead.Silver and Blaze are in-step and Silver watches over Silver because SILVER IS BLAZE'S TAKARAZUKA BITCH
>>570370234>disliked*less favored
Good morning Tailschads!
Tikal cute
>>570369887The japanese arent furries.
>>570370331*Blaze watches over Silver
>>570370208Yesterday I finally finished the main game of Unleashed after like a year. Great game
>>570370331OH SHIT you cracked the fucking code!!
https://youtu.be/s4Py4iRfM88?is=abW1zfSOQG9kWUOr
>>570370403morning for you, you filthy eurofag
>>570370720That's awesome
>>570370331I don't really understand that but it's cool to see the inspiration
>>570370950Did you ever get the chance to play the DLC stages? They're very hard. I wish later games kept having stages like that
>cream got nukedFuck this gay Earth.
Lmoa
>>570371363No. I actually never bought DLC for anything
>>570371396What do you think about the Henry Nowak case?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeGFkPoSJms
>>570368170
>>570371598Oh well
Post your Fiona’s for me, please
>>570371383Huh?
>>570371914^-^
Why did it not rank my completion of the Dark Gaia fights?Is the menu just going to keep saying I haven't beaten the game? It added Dark Gaia to the list of stages I can select, so something is clearly different from beforeWait, Eggmanland DOES have a hub! CoolAnd you can talk to the Egg Fighters lol. How do this guy's questions work? Is all the dialogue just random?The Egg Fighters are called EF-MD1991, EF-DC1998, EF-XB2006. Is that last one called XB in the PS3 version as well?
>>570366267This just talks about Shadow being a robot, because you didn't know Shadow survived at the end of SA2 and the game was telling you Eggman built his own version of Shadow.That's why I say the games are confusing. You don't know if Shadow is the original who talks with Maria, or the one Gerald made after being imprisoned, or a robot created by Eggman. The game hints at 3 Shadows, and we can only deconfirm one after the end of Shadow 05 if you wait for no reason on the final boss until Eggman pops up, so most players didn't get that message. Not really helping much, this whole mess was always confusing
>>570371776AHHHH NOT THE FICTIONAL CHARACTER PORN AGHHHH
>>570372306You sure just said a bunch of words
>>570372264:)
>>570371753He's not Tails so I don't care.
If I'm correct and this in-step thing is actually about takarazuka at what point during the development of Rush and 06 was Blaze's designed changed? What came first, Blazes outfit, or her being in-step with Silver? Or did they come up with both at the same time?I remember Silvazefags said Silver and Blaze's design (specifically their fluffs (chest fur/ cuff links) and shoes were supposed to match) but I dismissed it as shipper bullshit but now I'm not so sure. It's possible her design (or both their designs) were changed to be takarazuka inspired for the in-step thing and to match Silver.>>570371109The Takarazuka Revue is a Japanese all-female musical theatre troupe based in Takarazuka, Hyōgo Prefecture where women play both male (otokoyaku) and female (musimsyaku) roles. Blaze's outfit is inspired by Takarazuka.
'dria
>>570370331HOLY SHIT
>>570371978
Dead /sthg/ theory
:P
>>570372561lolI'll keep playing for a bit, then I'll start Generations, which probably won't take me as long
>>570372750Dogfucking coded ship
>>570370331>The otokoyaku physically guide the musumeyaku through waltzes
>>570369473Was this poll before or after they shrunk Rouge's tits?
>>570369473>Espio not in firstI hope they get nuked again.
Foxboy!
>>570372913Have fun!
>>570372860:3
>>570368882They're not brainless consumers for starters
>>570373128He sure is one
>>570373129I also want to (re)play every stage and write my thoughts on each one, but Unleashed is a huge game so that would take a long time. Maybe some day>>570373431An amazing one
>>570368882Because he's Trunks.
>>570373526I though he was Shadow?
>>570373128Foxgirl!
I'm asking for that drawing of Fiona molesting SilverI'm paying in paws
>>570373697It was just posted yesterday just scroll through the archive
>>570373803Im not talking about the one with his pants
>>570373505You don't need to go super in depth, just write a small text about each one. Makes things more approachable
>>570368882This is why>>570373526Nothing that works about Trunks applies to Silver
>>570373897True, good point
>>570371978https://youtu.be/TjdDPaNUgF0
>>570370331 (Me)>>570372664 (Me)Since seeing that 06 analysis where Silver changes the way he walks with Blaze I took it as him becoming equals in their relationship. But now I'm wondering if we're meant to take it as him becoming the dominant (masculine) one by the end.
>>570374118>TokTik
>>570368979He's 4th within Sonic Team
>>570373908>Fluffy white, fluffy fluffyEloquently put.
>>570373908>earnest personality>honest personality>sense of justice>jojo voice>fluffy>potential>different kind of hero than sonic and shadow>love at first sight (sonic 06)
>>570374118TikTok is a cringe factory. How much do you want to bet that all the users in picrel are on the autism and alphabet spectrum at the same time?
>>570371978i want to sniff fiona
>>570374382Top Trans Tails!
>>570372353Literally nothing in the games themselves is confusing.Its people reading supplementary material and being illiterate making it confusing for themselves.Its like the people that think Gerald cloned Maria's soyl and put it into Shadow.Or that Amy's bracelets are the weight she was using in Battle.
>>570374190>Silver>Masculine
>>570373697
>>570374465He's kind and righteous and sexy and naive and capable and positive and rough
>>570372353The reason people thought Shadow was a robot is because most people didnt k ow you were supposed to get every ending. They played straight to the goal in every level and got the robot ending where he karatechops Eggman.
>>570374724He's the example of how women hate positive masculinity
>>570374929Not this oneCant tell you exactly what it was but Silver was humiliated in this picAnd it could not be even Fiona
This Silver guy sounds cool! But what does he do and why should I care?
>>570374929>Using her ears now her tailShe's a professional molester
Sonic & Tails
>>570374724This looks feminine to you?
>>570375132He averts disasters for the sake of world peace. Now stop talking about him.
>>570375132He comes from 200 years in the future to protect the timeline and he can move things around with his mind, grab them and throw em back and junk like Neo in the Matrix.
>>570375293
>>570375368Amy...Sonic isn't here. We told you this last time you broke all our doors.....
>>570375439>>570375520So he's kinda like Trunks but without a personal stake or motivation? That's cool I guess...
OHyesthat was the picture i was talking about
silver has good silent main character vibes, like doom guy
>>570375823World peace is his motivation, his stake is the state of his world.
>>570375856If only Evan Stanley could understand that.
>>570375823His personal stake is that he lives in the future, and what happens in the present affects his time.Trunks actually didnt have a personal stake since DBZ used multiverse theory.He came back to get the schematics of the androids to potentially create a way to stop them that way.In the end, he just ends up getting strong enough to beat them himself in his time.
Cute cute
>>570375856No he fucking doesn't
>>570375383nice silvass
I need to get laid. How about (You)?
EvangelionIangelion
>>570369473most of the voters were female if you read the vote comments honeslty
>>570376465Ian Genesis Evangelion
Fiona wasn't even into Archie Silver because he's fucking lame. Stop posting this stupid ship.
>>570376578It's obvious they were, given the results
>>570370331>>570374190blaze special animations in mario olympicsamyrougesilverits over
>>570375852
>>570376002I'm not entirely convinced. Does he have a theme song I could listen to explaining him?>>570376076>Trunks didn't have a personal stakeBulma? Meeting his father Vegeta? Future Gohan?>multiverse theoryThey only learn that after he time travels, right?>getting strong enough to beat them himselfKinda like Silver did except instead of avenging the future (and Future Gohan) it was a bittersweet tragedy cause he sacrificed Blaze?
>>570375741
>>570376578No wonder Sonic, Shadow, and Silver were the most popular characters in the poll. Girls like them because they think they're attractive
>>570376709SSS is popular with boys too, people caring about non hedgehogs + non core 4 is niche.
Mania was a SOA psyops
>>570376781>theme songDreams of an Absolution?
>>570376781It's just you again, tanabataschizo. Stop being mindbroken by a fucking cartoon character and get a life already.
>>570376686Let people enjoy things
>>570376686But it's funny
>>570376686he was explaining how old he was in a weird wayand fiona has limits
>>570376781>They only learn that after he time travels, right?TFS meme....
>>570375383look at that twink flaunting his ass that pose is gay as fuck
>>570376893>>570376893SSS have an appeal for everyone desu
>>570377030We don't do that on the internet anymore
>>570376781it was a bittersweet candybowl
>>570370331this is too dangerous for uwuverfags to learn and spread. theres still probably some validity to it though.
Page full of Sovl
Ban fanworks
>>570374724daisuko ono has a more masculine voice than junichi kanemaru, arguably koji yusa too.
I feel bad for any of the newfags itt
>>570377083Silver has always been a lame dorky idiot. You guys forget that most characters canonically hate Archie Silver because he's fucking annoying.
>>570376919Sonic and Shadow are by far more popular than the others, and while third place is up for grabs, I doubt Silver would be close to grabbing that spot with a large sample size
>>570377367
>>570377035Is this meant to be Archie Silver?
>>570377123I genuinely didn't remember. I checked and see they realize after they destroy baby Cell in their timeline. Makes sense. It was either then or when Trunks traveled back to the future the first time.
>>570377587No, in that game the characters stay true to their source material afaik
>>570377497>I feel bad for the twitterfagsI don't
>>570377128Fujo...>>570377132I like SSS as a trio because it's cool
>>570377517>giving a shit about Fartchie like anyone read it
Why all of you fall into blatant bait so easily?
>>570377367>>570377582seen little kids sonic fanart is so cute to me, even if they are adults now
Silver would fumble the only woman who ever showed the slightest interest just by talking
>>570377582
>>570377497did something happened? why would we have newfags right now
>>570377671Based. Hate comicver.
>>570377367>that Off Panel bitIf this was done today the bowl of food would be replaced by a chilidog, Silver would say "It's no use, he'd never fall for that", they'd be in Green Hill Zone, there would be Blaze colored flowers near Silver, and Sonic wouldn't look so annoyed.
>>570377762Inget that but they’re the ones ruining this franchise.
>>570377296I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen any Silvaze takarazuka fanart yet. It seems obvious in retrospect.
>>570377650Again, TFS meme. Here is the original Manga.
>>570378017Twitterfags are NOT asking for popeye or the smurfs so no
>>570378043theres definitely crossdressing fanart of them by uwuver fans, takarazuka is too niche for westerners.
>>570378047>Gemini was wrongmaybe /sthg/ was right that AI and fanworks are bad
>>570377786None of the Archie characters would keep their dynamic with the game characters if they were in the games except Tails and Mina because they look cute together>>570378047TFS is the Archie of DBZ?
>>570377561>third place is up for grabs, I doubt Silver would be close to grabbing that spot with a large sample sizeHe's the closest one to grabbing it due to:not being their friend but a distant oneVery strong and very important to the narrativehaving a super formcomplete their third notion of being "the future" since both of them if they had a third spot its mostly for past and present
>>570378194Gabs makes tanabata art though.Someone should plant the idea in her head lmao
>>570377517Archie Silver is only written that way because Ian bases characters on their dub voices and not their actual personalities. In Silver's case he misread him as a complete dweeb because of how lame Pete Capella sounds while completely missing how rude the character acted or anything he actually says because he couldn't past the voice. You can see it in their Bumblekast let's plays.>>570377816Canon Silver isn't interested in women at all but would still be boyfriend material like Sonic and Shadow.
Ban fan creators
>>570378043Blazefags in general dont know about Takarazuka influence on the character. Many that do actively try to downplay and erase it for some reason. Probably because it makes her seem more princely rather than princessy.Male Blazefags find that ruins their waifu.FemcelBlazefags find that invalidating.
>>570377561true, but dudes like silver too, shonen hedgehog who moves stuff with his mind and makes protagonist like speeches is cool + he has a cooler voice in japan. ''only shippers like silver'' is mostly sonazefag agenda.
>>570378451>Silver is botfriend materialMarine...
>>570378043>>570377296I always knew. I just don't know how to draw. And I don't like crossdressing Silver so I rather not tell even if I like Uwuver
>>570378043That would require shippers to see the characters as something more than dolls to slap together while making kissing and slurping noises
why doesn't sonic have chest fluff
>>570378631He lack testosterone
>>570378631He doesn't have as much testosterone as Shadow and Silver
>>570378534Blaze is for queer men. The biggest Blaze scholars are queer.
>>570378408i don't want her to spread uwuver even more than she already does.
The same fucking foxOVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER...
>>570378820
>>570377517Every Archie character is pretty fucking annoying if you think about it
>>570378043The only thing that mentions takarazuka is only known by a translation that omits it.
Sally would suck off game Silver
Shipping belongs to /trash/Character, story, lore discussions belongs to /co/Gameplay discussion belongs to /vg/
>>570378232>>570378227Like we said, people's perception of the series gets warped by fan parodies online and disinformation spread on Tumblrs and wikis.Legit I have met a bunch of people that to this day regurgitate the notion that Amy fainted from starving herself to lose weight to look good for Sonic in Sonic Battle. Even Youtubers like SCMJ have repeated this despite it not being in the game.Also people that misremember Metropolis Mayhem as the actual dynamics of Heroes with Team Rose.This is why Nintendo is so militant with fanworks to protect their IP.
>>570378974Sally would suck off everyone
>>570378980The games suck dick
Alright so let's talk about the gameplay, have any of you played the games?
>>570378597i could draw it but i dont want to reveal who i am on 4chan.
>>570378980There’s an ad below for Duolicious but we already know that’s a honeypot. What board do we go to for hooking up?
>>570379009Who the hell is SCMJ
>>570378980Shut up
Bosnia is winningEat sit, Ian
>>570378232>TFS is the Archie of DBZYes
>>570379134That didn't sound ominous at all, you're not affiliated with IDW are you?
>theme song written by a gay man>shipped with Espio by biggest fan, official writer, and queer ally Evan Stanley>in-step wirh Blaze for their Takarazuka dynamic as the female (Musumeyaku) to Blaze's Otokoyaku (male)>handling typeSilver is a queer icon!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FKipZcs9ZRAUltimate LAME form! Ha HA!
>>570378974SatAM Sally would appreciate Gamever taking seriously Archie Sally would... I don't know what Archie Sally would do
Jpfags want sega to ban fangames
Where is the /sthg/ mansion located?
>>570378232Mina married Tails because he grew into the hero she admired
>>570379280i am a shitty fanartist, not a sega worker.
>>570379134>i dont want to reveal who i amGood, always hide your power level
>>570378980The only acceptable (and canon) type of shipping is /hmofa/ shipping
>>570379331Silver will never be lgbt+ kys
>>570378621This. Shippers reduce characters to relationship dollies in their barbie playhouse the way powerscalers reduce characters to beatsticks tools.
>>570378549>''only shippers like silver'' is mostly sonazefag agendanot even a shipfag but there's no denying that silver's fans are mostly female and/or shippers. for every boy that aspires to be a kornart there are many more girls that will become a gabs or an evan stanley
Ban Silver slander.
>>570379458The mansion, you say? No one has used it for a long time...https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E087ZfDeBis
>>570379587Lex is one lucky fucker
>>570378771Blaze is for queer women. Her Japanese voice sounds like Sailor Uranus.I saw japanese fans confused why her dialogue in speed simulator was too girly for the character.
>>570368514>B: I'm gonna KILL Eggman!>S: I'm gonna fight Eggman too!>B: REEEEEEEEEEE NOOOO I HAVE TO KILL HIM ALL BY MYSELF, GO AWAY>S: Dude, relax>B: IF YOU DON'T LEAVE, I'LL KILL YOU TOO>S: >B: DIEWhat is wrong with this lady.
SRB2 is shit
>>570379818maybe in older days but i see plenty male silverfags, even male silvazefags.
>>570379331Why only queers hate him then?
>>570379171SomeCallMeJohnny. OG Sonic youtuber.Many of his memes were referenced in Mania.
If only Penders remembered Barby existed when he wrote X years later. Imagine Ian's seethe if Tails had a family with her.
>>570380000She's Silverless in Rush.
>>570380059Wait until next update, it's gonna fix everything I swear
checking for paranormal activity in the /sthg/ mansion
>>570380000Wasn't this the same scenario with Silver in colorsDS?
>>570380218>maniafagOf course
>>570379986>I saw japanese fansAll six of them?
>>570380264Just like Rivals Silver being Blazeless... They really are in synch!
>>570379262Not exactly. Its also being too kind to Archie. TFS is a legitimately good fan parody made by people that do get the source material and like it.But it started getting spun as a better version that "fixes" the series by non-fans and.....oh actually that last part is like how rebootfags were with Archie lol.
Sonurge Chronicles
All this gender shit about Blaze makes sense now.>>570380264>Silver feminizes BlazeAt last I truly see.>>570379986Nah Blaze wants to be a woman.
>>570380607What's the plot?
>>570380218Oh yeah, I remember when the devs snuck in the Dunkey cheatcode in Sonic Mania, pre-Plus update....kinda cringe in retroapect, Meta really was the "how do you do fellow contentcreators" phase.
>>570380428must be a tanabata reference
>>570379456Fangames are fine. Fan parodies died so they arent a threat anymore.A lot of TeamDarkfags who insisted they were friends are SMBZfags.Ive legit seen people bring up SMBZ in their review of Sonic 06 and Heroes as arguments for why they were beat friends.
>>570380678This is why Mania will be alwyas inferior to jap shit.
Are there any Sonic characters that like cum as much as I do?
anons, are there any other cases of sonic VA's voicing other characters with very similar traits to that of the sonic characters they’ve voiced?i could only think of these 2 specific cases
>>570380000Autism
>>570378820these two creatures are sex
>>570380771All fan shit should be deleted
>>570380664You fuck Surge
>>570380910The SSS
>>570381028You mean Sonic.
>>570380608Oh its you again.Case and point about her waifufags thinking it ruins her.
>>570380962So autistic she tries to murder Sonic in hot blooded rage and they just go at it like wild animals down and dirty in front of everybody taking out all the stress and frustration she's built up over this man.
You play as Sonic and you redeem Surge
>>570379818Sonic has been TLoZ for furry autists for a while now. The women are here to stay for official pictures of characters to collectively orgasm over
>>570380827Superstars sucked.
SOA paid bad reviews for the 00s games
Liberating Surge sexually.
>>570381223
>>570381414Nah
>>570381169I like that Blaze is still feminine underneath everything, the contrast enhances her feminity.
>>570381324she is so cute
Blaze is the God Empress of Sol-Kind
>>570380608is this tanabata schizo or some other anon
>>570381576Yeh
>>570382094Cope
>>570381935sonic...
>>570382001Yes it's me hello.
>>570380678it really was, they didn't want to care about what sonic was because the general perception considered sonic "cringe" then the focus changed to memes and taking the piss to be accepted by content creators who didn't care for sonic in the first place.the twitter wendys account was a mistake
What the fuck is a tanabataschizo?
>>570381787I agree on Blaze but>Sonic buying clothes, for womenIf it needs to be like this then it's never good
>>570381414Superstars is a very Oshima game in that it feels cutesy rather than cool.Naka was right.
>>570376747>>570370331>When even Japan feminizes Silver
>>570382483it should've been Silver instead
>>570382469Anyone who values sincere human connection.
>>570382140Rope
>>570380608The truth will be brought to light eventually.>>570381787Akio....
>>570382617silver has always been feminine
>>570382617It's okay when japan does it
>>570376747He's one of the girlies.
>>570382372the mystery might be solved, eventually silver starts out as the bitch, but his character devolopment makes blaze the bitch, which eng dubbers probably missed the point of and made silver more of a bitch than he was at the very beginning in the comics and en translations. daisuke ono deep voice and the long chest fur actually signifies masculinity but eng dubbers played the role reversal thing too straightforward. blaze and silver both suffer from being too rooted in japanese influence compared to other popular characters.
Mania Team never cared about Sonic>>570380678
>>570382617Now I see why Silver fans and Akinori Nishiyama hate Blaze
Blaze likes human cock btw
>>570382668Nope, the only good option is Amy because it's shopping, even adding Blaze as slightly deflective since she's not very social and they're revealing
>>570382975Eng dub ruining Jp Silver who is supposed to be a rude punk
>>570382942only if it's for blaze.
Personally, I love when Silver is a cute little cinnamon bun. I want to punch his little cheeks and squee.
>>570383143Evan...
>>570382918>0daisuke ono is not feminine and blaze is the one who wears the maid dress in the end. its more nuanced than silver just being the bitch.
I think is cool that is implied multiple times in different games that sonic gets stronger in base than when he goes super in previous adventures. I wonder if it will ever be implied that he is as strong as something like solaris or time eater without having to go super anymore in the future
>>570383143>I want to punch his little cheeksJESUS
>>570382975>blaze and silver both suffer from being too rooted in japanese influence compared to other popular characters.We say this about every character at this point.Some more than others but still.
Hopecucks btfo
>>570383405The fact is no one cares about this shit. This is an American franchise.
>>570382942Not beating the allegations
>>570383318I think it's cool seeing him get curve stomped and humiliated by badniks every so often, i wonder if it will ever be implied that he can get raped by them in the future
Aw yeah, that's right baby
Calling Shadow a good boy while we have sex
>>570382926>It's okay when japan does itYes unironically. Crossdressing isn't genitalia mutilation, just a fashion trend about dressing males as females and females as males, which only strengthen their differences
>>570383405the only one i can see being ruined by too much japanese influence and also a character popular enough for fanbase to care about at all is amy, sonic,shadow,tails and knuckles aren't too japanese.
>>570383594Degeneracy is bad
>>570383553Give us the based version not the cringe one
Can you niggers stop talking about Silver already
>>570383594If people weren't forced into certain behavioral patterns based on their sex, and it was normalized for guys to wear dresses and girls to wear suits, less people would probably troon out.
>>570383825No
Fiona Gold Blaze Amy and Silver making love
Game Silver x Fiona
>>570383562
>>570383362Dream team is such a hidden gem what the fuck, every day i wonder if they'd let it out of the apple cage
>>570383553blaze becomes the bitch in the end though. its more nuanced. (blaze wears the maid dress in otherworldly comedy)
>>570383825No we love Silver here.
>>570382998>Silver fans hate BlazeThe same type of cucks that got Amy neutered because Sonic not being "cool" all the time upsets them
>>570383829Explain.
>>570383825tanabata schizo anon is %70 of the reason silver is talked baout here.
>>570369473>Silver has not been important for 20 years>He still ranks high with Sonic and ShadowThe plot of Sonic 06 is just too powerful. When can we expect a reunion?
>>570384221what's the other 30%
>>570382998nishiyama hates blaze?
>Shadow is inspired by Kabuki theater>Silver is inspired by takarazuka theater (via Blaze)Never beating the Shadow 2.0 allegations.>>570382975Yeah I said this earlier about Otherworldy Comedy here>>570374190So yeah Silver and Blaze are a tanabata and a takarazuka pair.>too rooted in japanese influenceThey put too much thought into esoteric symbolism and not how they would actually work.>>570383405Shadow is inspired by Kabuki theater and not knowing this doesn't matter to me. But Silver and Blaze yap about being in-step and doing the tanabata thing actually matters. It's different.>>570383553Silver is Blaze's Amy (musumeyaku).
>>570383553
>>570384129...What?
Trunks and Mai but for Silver
>>570384164The reason a lot of confused autists troon out is because they often struggle with fitting in. For example a girl who wants to be masculine short hair. She is convinced to cut her tits off because "short hair is for boys". If there were less restrictions on how both genders dress and act, the motivation for trooning out (escaping gender roles) wouldn't matter.
>>570384362people who like him
>>570384423>>Silver is inspired by takarazuka theater (via Blaze)HOLY LEECH
>>570384469Needs Thrash
>>570384423isn't amy the male role in sonamy though, by being the one who pursues?
>>570384013Yarr! Ain't they ways to play it outsida Apple?
>>570384534Perfect
>>570384835Man I miss Silvisper. Whispangle is so forced.
Sonic, Silver, and Blaze is an incestuous metaphysically slurry
>>570384423>Silver is actually from tarazakarokoka, that means he's Shadow2.0I though he was Trunks?
>>570383553are you interested in putting ariem as sol knuckles.
>>570384469Silspio isn't canon.
>>570385070Silver is Henery Hawk actually
I don't see why it's ok to talk about Sonics character all the time instead of Silver
>>570385113WTF does Ariem even do?
>>570385148Neither is Shadouge
>>570384587put on the dress, krack
>>570385363idk but she has a taller physically bigger design and is probably going to be on team with silver and blaze if they ever do something like heroes again. silver is the flight and blaze is speed ofc.
>>570385148
>>570385113>another useless character in another useless dimension making any meet up even more contrived She's perfect for them
So let me get this straight, Silver is Shadow 2.0 because he's Amy?
>>570385070Blaze is Utena and Silver is Trunks
>>570384587That oversimplified logic goes right out the window when you consider the bob cut exists.
Shadouge is Archieshit
>>570385632Who the fuck is antenna?
Theatre bullshit
>Silver is another AmySparky has done it again by being one step ahead
>>570385373>>570385676
>>570385738the mc of the revolutionary punk tabanata anime
He's...he's just Silver
>>570383524People clearly care or we wouldn't be zigzagging back and forth over characterization everytime.>>570383635I think Amy was more a collection of factors rather than just that. Its more just western sociopolitics that fucks Amy over frankly.>>570384423>Shadow is inspired by Kabuki theater and not knowing this doesn't matter to me. But Silver and Blaze yap about being in-step and doing the tanabata thing actually matters. It's different.People mistakenly compare Shadow to JakII Jak and thr punisher when he is more like BlackButler, people compare Tails to Jimmy Neutron instead of the plethora of kid tech savant sidekick in anime.Amy gets compared to Tootie and Panini instead of Miyu Yamazaki or Marin Kiragawa.Knuckles gets reduced to dumb muscle because thats the stereotype for Strong guy in western cartoons.Sonic is a bit more complicated but it still applies to him innits own way with Burgernic vs Gamenic.
>>570385839silvazefags said this since 00s , earliest one i saw that mentioned was in deviantart.
>>570385897Tanabata has an anime?
>>570385951Tabanana
>>570384790Amy is otenba(tomboy)
>>570384587Its not that. You're oversimplifying a much more complicated angst going on with these people.
I'm more of a Chris x Sara guy. Human TailsMy
>>570385839I don't consider Silver an "Amy", I always call him "Light Sonic". Silver is not an Amy.
>>570385560No because Shadow's design is inspired by kabuki theater and apparently Silver is inspired by takarazuka theater (crossdressing theater troupe) ahere Blaze plays the male and Silver plays the female).
Can we deep-finger other characters other than Silver?
>>570386407You call Amy Female Sonic, therefore Light Sonic is Male Female Light Sonic
>>570386407characters are not just one thing, he's light sonic but also playing the amy for blaze since she's takarazuka and a sonic equivalent. though he outgrows it to become more dominant
>>570386148An otenba is not a tomboy. it's not the same thing
>>570384469If Knuckles took Iblis from Silver, it's only fair that Silver becomes part of the chaotix
>>570386523No, I say "Girl Sonic" for Amy.Silver is "Light Sonic" as the inverse of Shadow. >>570386607Both Silver & Blaze are Sonic equivalents, though. Silver is a mirror of Sonic, just like Shadow is, and Blaze is the polar-opposite equivalent to Sonic. Trying to make one of them into Tails or Amy for the other, misses the whole point. Neither Silver nor Blaze is an Amy or a Tails for the other, they both occupy Sonic's space.
>>570386645We arent doing this again.
>>570386804So what do you think of the theater stuff?
>>570386804If Silver is a Trunks light mirror of Sonic does that also makes Sonic takayakuza tananata?
>>570385113
>>570386804but amy is an inverse of shadow, think about it. theres no character that is ''not'' shadow than amy.
>>570386945I don't have much of an opinion on that since I'm not entirely familiar with it beyond knowing it's an influence on Blaze, and whatever else I've heard from other stuff that relates to it.
>>570387072Have you read this thread? Someone pointed out how it inspired the dynamic between Silver and Blaze, and Silver's character development
>>570387028?
>>570386804What are your opinions of Sonic and Silver interacting and how they should interact? Same question again for Shadow and Blaze, and Shadow and Knuckles. I can wait if you need some time to reply
Some of you idiots call accurate characterization "references"
>>570387060Amy is "Girl Sonic", and Shadow is "Dark Sonic". Amy's character centers around overexuberant expression of passionate emotions, in contrast to Sonic being cool and aloof. Shadow takes "cool and aloof" to a darker extreme, so the contrast with Amy is intensified, but it's still just amplifying what already existed between Sonic & Amy, and Shadow's equivalent to that is tied to Maria.
>>570386804>>570386974>>570387060Sparkyposting is literally just this.https://youtu.be/wQ7NiEmAnMk?feature=shared
A Japanese otenba isn't the same as an American tomboy. The conceit of a "girl who doesn't act culturally feminine" is the same, but the actual gender expression are different. So it's not a perfect translation.I'd say "go-getter" is more accurate.
>>570387452I think this might have caused confusion from the Pokemon fandom. The earliest example I can find of Otenba being translated as Tomboy is Misty from Pokemon, but in her case both words describe her
otenba == girlboss
>>570387452>>570387597This is cope
>>570387331so while silver is not an amy would you still say they share quite a few traits?
>>570386974I laughed at this for way too long
Tanabataschizo is one of the most mind broken people I've ever seen.
>>570387664Gender expression differs between cultures. "tomboy" means nothing across the cultural divide.
>>570387721>See ya on the flipside, whiteboi!
>>570387721It's because he's so straightforward haha
>>570387452>>570387597Kim Possible is a straight up cheer leader that likes shopping and clothes and she was a tomboy.The term fit and made sense for people at the time even on the west.Its just the term has undergone cultural drift since the 90s and early 2000s."Go-getter" doesn't communicate it better at all. It reads as a meaningless statement to most people at best or makes her sound like an achievement oriented person at worst.
>>570387929Though it is ultimately tied to sex which is universal and fundamental, so some important aspects will be the same across cultures
Wait Shadow is actually tabanata related who looks like Trunks since he resemble white Amy?
>>570387995I always knew Silver was white.
You guys are retarded
>>570387917You're just jealous your psychotic episodes don't give you cool insights into Sonic lore.
>>570388218Silver and Sonic having sex with their canon gfs.
>>570388304Then why are you in a den of retards?
>>570371776it's so odd that the people who care a lot about sonic "canon" are the same people who will use the character ages that were decanonized to shame people who fap to them.
Silvazefags are really obsessed with their IRL fanfiction that Blaze was designed for Silver when her creator barely knows who Silver is.
>>570388445It's because he's retarded too, retard
>>570387732I was saying the other day that the way Silver is constructed and portrayed feels like it's overlapping with Amy unintentionally. In the sense that ... Okay, so Sonic is cool and aloof. Thus: Tails "wants" to be cool but is insecure, Amy is hot-headed and intensely passionate, Knuckles is also hot-headed and wild tempered, and Blaze is ALSO hot headed. But Knuckles is stoic, and Blaze is restricted and disciplined, while Sonic is carefree. Amy is as carefree as Sonic AND hotheaded at the same time, which makes her too overwhelming for Sonic to handle, as she wears her heart on her sleeve loudly and proudly without shame. It feels like Silver is often handled as if he's the exact same way. As if, Sonic is cool, Shadow is cold, so Silver is ... hot-headed??? Silver is much more openly emotional and aggressive, while also being naive and optimistic as he's the last light in a dark world. And thus Blaze's outward stoicism and false coolness becomes the "calm" mentor-like partner to reel Silver in... which goes against Blaze's character as SHE is the one who needed Sonic to reel HER in because SHE is hot headed and loses her temper very quickly. I feel like Silver being "hot-headed" overlaps with Amy's personality unintentionally, and that causes problems with other characters he's paired with in some ways as well, and it all stems from basing him around "the inverse of Shadow" but failing to properly construct him as a mirror of -Sonic- first.
>>570388530Tumblroids with comic pfps don't care about canon or being true to the characters.
>>570388645Of course! Thanks, fellow retard
>>570388190>sex is universalMaybe. I don't feel like being racist today.
>>570388445A retard ruined my life.
ShadHope Chronicles
>>570388445This is the only place to talk about Sonic. I wanted autism not mental retardation.
>>570388884
>>570387721erm ackshaully according to Nakamura his name is meant to evoke his abilities>I also think the name “Silver” is a perfect fit in terms of evoking the character’s signature color and abilities.
Tabanana is a theatre show for Trunks with Shdaow who's actually just Amy 2.0 with white stuff on her
>>570388695The fact that they could bully Japan into removing them proves we are all FUCKED. That was the canary in the coalmine!!
>>570389086Silverfags BEG for depth for their crappy Trucks clone.
>>570389108You understand Silver.
>>570389254ABT hasn't been removed though
>>570389387He's got some nasty ass opinions but as long as he keeps drawing fat tits he's okay in my book
>>570388884I see, I see. Tell us more about this..."Ree Tard"...
>>570387273Sonic and Silver, I'm not entirely sure. Silver is "Light Sonic", but what that means in-relation to Sonic hasn't been handled that well in the series. Shadow and Blaze is just too serious-minded goal-oriented and self-restraining individuals so they'd probably work well together but not really interact or socialize much at all because all they'd care about is getting the job done and moving on. I wouldn't say they're exactly the same though, at all. It's just how they'd appear outwardly, while their actual personality frameworks and psychology are radically different. Shadow and Knuckles is untapped potential, but really it'd just be an extension of Sonic vs Knuckles, but not entirely. Some aspects of what I said with Shadow and Blaze would carry over, but not 100% since no doubt they'd come in conflict with each other very quickly and very often since Knuckles is much more competitive and reactionary than Blaze is, and if there is any chance to pick a fight, they will both take it. Between Shadow, Knuckles & Blaze, the similarity & difference centers around "Chaos vs Control". Shadow = Chaos Control, the technique itself that is essentially controlling chaos. Knuckles = Master Emerald, which also is the controller of the Chaos Emeralds. Blaze = Sol Emeralds, which are polar-opposite to the -Chaos- Emeralds, thus they might represent order? And Blaze is "restrained" versus Sonic's freedom, which is comparable to Shadow needing to wear Limiters to restrain his own power or else he'd destroy himself. So Shadow, Knuckles & Blaze is just these three different variations of contrasting Sonic's chaotic carefree state, interacting with each other.
>Tabanana
>>570389282You're still mind broken 20 years later.
>>570389508>Shadow and Blaze is just too serious-mindedtwo*
The Sonic characters having ages always gave them 'kid hero' charm that people of all ages liked and were inspired by. It was such a stupid decision by Sonic Team to remove them
WHat the fuck is tanabata
>>570389569>20 years of nothing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a-klz7CJ4NQ&
Who the fuck is tanabata schizo. Are they pro tanabata or anti.
>>570389679They removed them from Sonic Channel profiles. Anyone arguing that this means that they "don't have ages anymore" is retarded. They have ages. And that is a good thing.
>>570389679They were removed because people couldn't accept the characters were timeless while also having canon ages.
>>570389796They don’t have ages anymore. Even Ian said so
>>570389796They can't keep having birthdays and have a static age. Shit was distracting. Always was.
>>570389949That won't erase decades of material that have ages listed. Sorry, they can't memory hole that.
>>570389954No, you're just retarded. There is nothing "distracting" about it, it's a cartoon and you're not supposed to think about it like that. The Simpsons, the Pokémon anime, Detective Conan, whatever other series does this, you have to be retarded to make this argument.
I can't believe they're bringing back Tekno the Canary
>>570389508Thank you for taking the time to answer me, Sparky. You've been a great help
>>570389071This is autism, idk what you mean.
>>570389863So Sonic Team basically caved to the people who couldn't accept the characters being timeless while also having canon ages. What a bunch of cowards
>>570390049It doesn’t need to. They don’t have them anymore
>>570389884*picks up shadow*
>>570389679When did they remove them
>>570390049ThisAlso they still have ages in-universe, they're not like deities beyond time or anything like that, the "ageless" headcanon is nonsense
Anyone have the image of Sonic getting taller each iteration and its just Sonic as Bayonetta at the end?
>>570390098>The Simpsons, the Pokémon anime,Pokemon anime is a bad example because everyone complained and criticized it.Simpsons characters dont have official ages to my knowledge, correct me if im wrong.Detective Conan is also a bad example because he is cursed to look like a child and is stuck like that. Its the premise of the show.
>>570390258Everyone still refers to them by their ages and their is loads of material that listed it. Just saying "Well, it doesn't exist anymore!" does absolutely nothing.
Everyone canonically hated Archie Silver
It's possible that Shadow and Blaze could almost be like ... inverted versions of each other, sort of? In the sense that, Blaze on the outside is always restraining herself on the inside. But Shadow could be the opposite, where it's his _inward_ side that "controls" his outward side? Like on the outside, Shadow is a mirror of Sonic, they are like identical twins, same abilities, same "Chaos". But on the inside is an efficient, tactical mind that pursues his goals by any means necessary, and of course Maria's wish, and that is what dictates every action Shadow takes with cold, ruthless efficiency. Blaze, however, has to maintain conscious outward discipline to restrain herself, to keep her temper at bay, to keep her flames under control, because letting lose at all could cause everything to be burnt to ashes or whatever.
>>570390360I think the ages were removed when Frontiers was released. You can check the character profiles on the Wayback Machine and you'll see the ages removed around that time
>>570390193>What a bunch of cowardsBeen that way since Yuji Naka left.
>>570383137rude punk getting femdommed by a princess, you got to admit hes a lot of concepts that don't make immediate sense with each other
>>570390125I wouldn't mind Tekno migrating to canon desu. But only in an Amy spinoff.>>570390193I think it was Ian's idea.Tbf, most people bitching about Ages being removed are people that wanna use em as a basis to police people online for being degenerates or whatever.
>>570390465Bart Simpson is 10 years old. There was an episode where the idea of time moving forward and him having an 11th birthday was too much, so time just ... reset(?) at the end, and it became his 10th birthday instead.
>>570390528And this is hardly an exaggeration. Half of the cast was annoyed by him in the Preboot.
>>570390528Well they're bunch of faggots since he canonically saved everyone 3 times
>>570390193i think they mostly got tired of people complainign about amy being 12 and shipped with 15 or 16 year olds, it doesnt really matter for anyone else really.
>>570390368Sonic is literally a legendary wind god .
>>570390125It's crazy the Captain Plunder and Chuck D Head are coming to IDW this fall
>>570389768I think it's intentional but I hate it. It doesn't suit my tastes.
>>570390360They hid them from Sonic Channel profiles a couple of years ago and retards decided that it now means they literally don't have ages in universe>>570390465No, it wasn't everyone who criticized it, only retards like you did. Cartoon characters can have birthdays and their age can stay the same. Also, Detective Conan treats the series as taking place in the current year, but they don't age the characters accordingly. Cartoon ages are often statichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Simpson#Role_in_The_Simpsons>The Simpsons employs a floating timeline, in which characters either do not age or age minimally; the show is always presumed to take place in the present year.[1][2] Always ten years old,[3] Bartholomew,[4] best known by his short-form name Bart, is the eldest child and only son of Homer and Marge SimpsonThis is how Sonic works as well. There is NOTHING confusing about this, you're just retarded
WAAHHH WAHHHH SONAMYS 3 YEAR AGE GAP IS CREEPY BUT ROUGE FUCKING A 45 YEAR OLD WHILE FLIRTING WITH CHILDREN IS HECKIN EPIC
>>570390872People still bring that up regardless because they know the ages were the universal intent for the characters for years.
>>570390872That's stupid. 15 and 12 isn't even a big age gap
>>570390951It just means "don't worry about it."They initially made Rouge 17 until they realized that's not legal to fuck in a lot of the world.
>>570390745Anon, those people do that anyway. I "bitch" about the ages being hidden from their profiles because it's a pointless nonsensical change to appease to those people. Don't justify it.
>>570391020amy is based more on high school girls anyway it actually doesnt matter.
>>570390767That's still the series actively agknowledging it and just making a meta joke about it though. So it doesnt fit the original argument.
>>570391095A 15 year old can be in highschool and a 12 year old can be in 5th grade depending on the circumstances.And the different school environments would have a huge impact on their social developments and status too.
Sonic should be with someone who wouldn't slow him down like Surge
>>570390650Everyone misses Takashi Iizuka as the director and lead game designer
>>570391095try being an 15 year old boy unironically telling everyone you date an 12 year old girl
>>570391095It's a very intentional gap that explains his hesitation to reciprocate. She's just young enough that it's awkward. The original gap was much bigger to make it clearer they weren't serious.But people online treat it like she's 11 and 364 days and he's 15 (17).
Mobians don't age. They hatch fully grown and actualized at their pemanent age. Sonic had a birthday but he's still "15".
Look at this sexy 12 year old girl
>>570391316These are cartoon characters
>>570390951>No, it wasn't everyone who criticized it, only retards like you didNot your boogeyman. I didnt have an issue with ages. Im just telling it like it is, schizo.
>>570391332The bitch that slowed his heart?
>>5703913165th grade is like 10 years old. 12 would be a 7th grader. 13, 8th grade. 14, 9th grade. 15, 10th grade.
There is no such thing as a cool 15 year old boy who's interested in 12 year olds. Especially not a jock like Sonic. You guys are retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65xdc2vnQRs
>>570391095It's a huge age gap when you're a teen.It's absolutely nothing once you're both adults.
I like to think about every character being 18+ so i wouldn't feel bad while raping them
>>570391149You're being a schizo. Like you said it doesnt matter. People still default yo the previous ages anyway. So the only reason to bitch about it is because it means you have less ammo to be a moralizing ninny on twitter and socials.
>>570391387sweet american amy cunny
>>570391410So if there’s no social stigmas then why do ages matter
>>570391524This guy gets it.Part of the point is she makes him look uncool/weird. Whether he likes her or not is immaterial.
Fucked up that Sonic characters only live to their 50's because of how their age scales to humans...
>>570391691stigmaballs
I'm definitely the best looking anon here
>>570391316So the autism around ages is purely because it acted as ammo fot ship debates?Good riddance lol
>>570391354>>570391371These are fictional cartoon characters and they don't go to school
>>570391787Post makeup routine.
How old is Trip? and how old is she going to be if she became modern?
>>570391787I bet your ass isn’t bigger than mine
TELL ME ALL THAT YOU’VE THROWN AWAYFIND OUT GAMES YOU DON’T WANNA PLAYYOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOWILL KEEP YOU MY DIRTY LITTLE SECREEEEEET (DIRTY LITTLE SECREEET)DON’T TELL ANYONE OR YOU’LL BE JUST ANOTHER REGREEEET (JUST ANOTHER REGREEEEET)HOPE THAT YOU CAN KEEP IIIIIIITMY DIRTY LITTLE SECREEEEEET
>>570391856i dont think it matters since amy is functionally a teenager, but for normies or fandom activist types, it makes sense to remove ages so they dont bitch about ships sonic team actually likes.
>>570391953Amy's shitty friend.
>>570391787krack lunulamogs you
>>570391953Old enough for the laws of her village.
>>570391791What else would it ever be
>>570391695SCANA
>>570391953>Modern TripNever happening. Her entire story has been told and done with in her debut CLASSIC game.
Sage is Eggman's Yallbot
>>570391978I get the impression that Amy acts 12. In real life, I personally haven't seen any teenage girls act like her
>>570391371You're the same anon that keeps trying to insist sonic is a flirt anf a horndog arent you
>>570391953Old enough for Fang.
>>570392473Yeah but Fang seems like he buys highschool girls alcohol then feels them up in the back of his Marvelous Queen.
>>570392240But anon the super form!
>>570390973Sonamy is the way
>>570392338I had a friend in grade 10 that acted like Amy. But nice spin.
>>570392240Yeah Sonic Team would never repeatedly tell the same story
>>570392338she does act like a cartoon but she is based on kogal culture which is based on high schoolers, she also acts independently and doesn't have guardian figures like the characters clearly younger than the teenage bracket.
>>570391387In hedgehog-years, she's lucky to be alive.The characters are fast so tgey cab run away from Feath.That's how it works in cartoonland!
>>570392473>shipping Trip with her bullyWhy tho
>>570392613Fang seems fairly off put by Trip. After she turns into a dragon, he probably even fears her.
>>570392840Amy's clothes and hobbies are based on kogals but she's still 12. she's 12 and has no guardian figure but Tails is 8 and he has no guardian figure either
>>570392919She can fix him!
>>570393073>but Tails is 8 and he has no guardian figure eitherHis guardian figure is supposed to br Sonic. He is his adopted big bro
>>570393073Rouge is Tail's guardian.
>>570381940Little bitch is barely an crown princess even if she did create the world.
Blaze is the most powerful thing in her setting. Even if she doesn't intend it, the Sol dimension lives in fear under her shadow.
Sonic
>>570393073tails and sonic's relationship is based on him being some kind of parental figure (piccolo gohan) so he has that. before that he likely was an orphan due to his two tails. this is different from amy who doesn't really depend on others outside of being physically weak like vanilla.idk why her being 12 is that important to you, she can be like 14 and still act cutesy and bratty. it legitimately is useless unless you want brownie points to be a moralfag on twitter.
>>570391447You're lying to justify some stupid nonsense>>570391637No, it's because I don't like seeing characters I like have their profiles characteristics raped beyond recognition to please dramafags who don't care about them
>>570392919it's a complicated relationship
>>570393610>equips Flame Shield>conquers her entire planetDumb cat
WAW BLAZE IS BURNING MY DICKK ONG
>>570393890She's 14 you pedo
does silver get pegged_
>>570393761>You're lying to justify some stupid nonsense...what's there to lie about?>No, it's because I don't like seeing characters I like have their profiles characteristics raped beyond recognition to please dramafags who don't care about themSo its not yhr change but the fact that it could be changed at all that bothers you. Got itYou can just say that.
>>570393998My own cat died at 13...
Touching and sucking on Shadow's nipples until i can see them through his furWorship boy nipples
>>570393294>>570393684Sonic is not a parental figure for Tails. Tails lives on his own and stays away from Sonic for extended periods of time. If anything we've seen the opposite since Tails has done his laundry and cooked for him on occasion. None of this means that Tails (or Amy for that matter) is not a kid. Your talking points are ruining these characters and you need to stop spreading them
>>570394154??? he doesn't have those
>>570393610Blaze is legitimately OP. But not in the sense of being overpowered in a fight. She is more overpowered in the narrative sense.
>>570394205proof?
>>570394092You said it was "criticized by everyone". Which is false. Only retarded morons on the Internet who don't understand how cartoons work complained about it "not" making sense. The average person understands that cartoon characters in cartoon worlds don't need to match how the passage of time works in real life.
didn't blaze win against Sonic canonically in rush becasue the only way she has the emeralds in the final fight was because she won
>>570394307Don't play dumb now
>>570394164sonic team did tell jp voices actors too that they should make amy and sonic sound older for frontiers.
>>570394154HE'S BARELY 3 YOU SICK FUCK
>>570394378No, else she'd kill Sonic, learn nothing, and never go super
>>570394432To match the tone they wanted for the story. It has nothing to do with their ages or relationships.
>>570394187Nice. Now let's see some good interactions between Sonic and Silver besides that 2021 Sonic Channel wallpaper story
The Ultimate Lifeform doesn't have nipples.
>>570394164>Sonic is not a parental figure for Tails. Tails lives on his own and stays away from Sonic for extended periods of time.Sonic is a bad parental figure then?The dynamic between the two as it was intended from Tails conception is abundantly clear. Newer media has it that Sonic trusts Tails on his own more because he proved himself capable. But it was and still is central to the character and why they were made a child.>Tails has done his laundry and cooked for him on occasionWhen?....oh it's the Sonailsfag isnt it.
>>570394378damn, sonic was musumeyaku takarazuka too.
>>570394187It took Silver doing Chaos Control for Shadow to agknowledge silver. This ofc is a callback to him acknowledging Sonic in SA2 when Sonic survived using CC as well.
>>570394164Truth. Sonic isn't Tails' father. The piccolo/gohan thing was more about Sonic being like a protector to Tails early on
>>570394534>In IDW, Sonic and Silver team up to stop the Metal Virus (narratively inportant)>In IDW, Silver saves Sonic from Starline's bomb>In Sonic & Friends, Sonic and Silver team up to stop a meteorThat's pretty much it.
>>570394428Even better!
>>570394187Makes sense since Silver is supposed to be the next Shadow.>>570394534Sonic and Silver have no chemistry beyond both being good guys
>>570394331>You said it was "criticized by everyone". Which is falseIn the Pokemon fandom.Please learn to read.And yes in the pokemon fandom it was an omnipresent critique. Even normies criticized it in Pokémon.Unlike the Simpsons which is episodic, pokemon is serialized. with episodic structure between major beats, but still.So its understandable.
>>570393684>You just want to moralfagMaking false accusations
>>570394561Sonic has a butthole and a dick in the mangas so shadow has nipples
>>570394569>The dynamic between the two as it was intended from Tails conception is abundantly clear.Yes, the dynamic of a younger friend who looks up to an older friend. Sonic is not a parental figure for Tails.>Newer media has it that Sonic trusts Tails on his own more because he proved himself capable.Sonic always trusted Tails on his own. The only game-related media that says otherwise is Ian's script for Frontiers, and it's contradicted by the Japanese version>But it was and still is central to the character and why they were made a child.Tails is a child prodigy with potential to become even greater, and he is humble and willing to learn from others, that is the reason he is a child
>>570394569The dynamic between Sonic and Tails was for them to be brother figures. Tails was created specifically so that Sonic 2 had a multiplayer mode and siblings could play the game together>When?Tailstube
>>570394981non canon and off model slop
>>570394896not every character with a somewhat dramatic narrative is shadow
>>570394378Yes, and Gamma canonically won against Sonic despite he and his friends' coping POVs because the peptalk Amy gives in that outcome is central to his character development.
>>570394773This is somehow not enough for fans to deem them as friends because that was not in a mainline game
>>570394504If Halo lore taught me anything is that flash cloning tends to cause massive birth defects that result in faulty genes and early deaths, which probably explains why Shadows doom blood didn't save Maria, as it's most likely acting as a crutch stopping Shadows entire genome from collapsing in on it's self.Gerald should have just grown Shadow the same rate as a normal baby. even it it would have delayed the project by 15 or so years.
>>570394962No, the general audience never cared. I am familiar with the Pokémon fanbase. Only a small but loud faction of it complained about it, usually the Ashfags wanting to "prove" that Ash grew up and is now in his 20s so the Pokémon anime is mature like them now actually please take it seriously PLEASE IT'S NOT FOR KIDS ANYMORE IT'S OKAY THAT I'M STILL WATCHING IT I DID THE MATH LOOK I ANALYZED EVERY EPISODE TO MAKE A TIMELINE OF WHEN HE HAD HIS BIRTHDAYS PLEASE VALIDATE MY ENJOYMENT OF CHILDREN'S CARTOONS
>>570394896>Silver is supposed to be the next Shadow.No he's supposed to be Trunks with tananana
>>570395182>picSo Silver just needs BA blood to be cool?
I'm happy to know Pokemon shippers are more autistic than Sonic shippers
>>570394773I'm disappointed. it had to be in the pozzed IDW comics of all places>>570394896Sonic and Silver do have chemistry. They connect vey easily due to their "to-the-point, get things done" and "defend the defenseless" personalities
>>570394754I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some people lol
>>570395096>>570395415The problem is that it has no flavor. It doesn't follow a formula or a trope. You might say "Silver is always there when Sonic needs him because the world needs a Sonic!" but that's not really an interpersonal dynamic.
>>570394534
>>570395365You need to let him get written by retards that don't hate his guts first and formost
>>570395425Some people see "kid" as what Tails' entire character is supposed to be, nothing else. Then I guess that means the person he looks up to MUST be a parental figure, because kids are only inspired by their parents I guess...
>>570395062His design literally takes cues from Shadow and was supposed to have his own game.
Sonic & Tails are close friends on equal footing ^-^However, Tails is young and humble and always thinks he has more to learn from his best friend! <3
Girlsss
Twitter Takeover - Sonic and Shadow talk about their dynamic with Silver:https://m.youtube.com/shorts/bY26Db3s5cgIt's fucking nothing.
>>570395474Exactly, it's original, i'm tired of Sega always follow others tropes and always tries to bring in things and guests from other IPs and companies, i'd appreciate them making original things, even if they're boring.
>>570395509Love it
>>570391863>makeup routineMakeup is for uglies>>570391969Doesn't count if you're fat. I got mine thanks to great genes>>570392018?
>>570395687>His design literally takes cues from ShadowYou made that up. They created Silver by making a white Sonic and the future stuff is left over from when he was an alien and a mink.
>>570395768Then you must be blind
>>570395687in the sense hes lighter sonic thus nega-shadow. the eye shape is actually closer to blaze's than fully metal-sonic like tsurime like shadow though. the eyeliner and fluff is similar.
>>570395687Are you the same tabanata retard?
>>570395725Truthsplosion
>>570395021>Yes, the dynamic of a younger friend who looks up to an older friend. Sonic is not a parental figure for Tails.Tails' creator literally stated he designed Tails to have a kid hoha and piccolo like dynamic. Gohan describes Piccolo like his big green uncle...>>570395021>Sonic always trusted Tails on his own. The only game-related media that says otherwise is Ian's script for Frontiers, and it's contradicted by the Japanese versionNobody, what it was was Sonic didn't give much of a toss about Tails and jist let him tail him and he eventually took a shine to him.
>>570392338>In real life, I personally haven't seen any teenage girls act like herYou'd have to go outside first.
Wow sirs the sonic frontiers 2 is looking great! I love modern game design
>>570395024>>When?>TailstubeWhat i thought. Tailstube doesnt say anything of the sort. Sonic makes the chillidogs himself. Tails just stocks the fridge.Same with laundry
>>570394534>>570394773>>570395509
>>570395182If you actually created a male being artificially like Shadow, the fertility rates would be something like ~50% full fertility, ~25% partial fertility, and ~25% infertility.There's a very strong likelihood Shadow cannot have children, either because he was created imperfectly or they decided it wasn't necessary.
>silver and sonic relationshipThis isn't even looking for crumbs. This is looking for bacteria to prove there was ever life in an empty room
>>570396114I don't remember any girls from the high school I went to acting like her
>>570395904>You made that upJust fucking look at him, retard. Am I gonna get into an arguement with a legitimate autist who I will have to explain the simplest thing to?
>>570396016>Gohan describes Piccolo like his big green uncle...https://youtu.be/Cj_9CizolQ4
This place isnt anything more than Tailspedos and Silverfags?I'm leavingYou wont see me at the whiteboard anymore
>>570396173you can also post japanese tsr
>>570395217You're delulu>>570395401Pokemon fans are more autistic than Sonic fans.The only reason they dont have fans games is because Nintendo shuts them down. They used to be everywhere.
>>570396336This is a 'Dow general.
>>570396295I told you how he was made and why that's not the case. You're just wrong.
>>570396016Again the Gohan/Piccolo thing was because Sonic was like a protector to Tails. This is exemplified in the Sonic 2 Japanese manual where Sonic is paying attention to Tails in their adventure. Sonic isn't Tails' father and that was never the intention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUjTsshxWsU
>>570396336There is only like 20 people at absolute max
>>570395768>There's so many Silver fansheh.
>>570396014<3>>570396016I'm tired of these Dragon Ball parallels. Having some vague inspiration doesn't make the characters interchangeable. We're talking about Sonic, not Dragon Ball
>>570385645>>570386308Is he really? Females troon out much much less than males, so he kind of has a point
>>570396336it isnt even really silverfags, its blazefag/tanabatafag throwing out stuff then the others keep digging out obscure information from japanese only to talk with him
>>570395725It infuriates me to no end that the T-boy wasn't playable in Colors. There's like two cutscenes where he's off doing something else, but for most of the game he's implied to be with Sonic.
>>570394754Piccolo wasn't Gohan's protector. He was a harsh mentor figure Gohan developed a puppy-like attachment to, which resulted in Piccolo softening a bit when he took a shine to him.This is clearly the intention of Sonic and Tails' dynamic in the classics. Sonic is aloof and scoffs at Tails but is somewhat impressed he is able to keep up and humors him. Then Tails proves himself capable and useful and he takes a shine to him.
>Silver is a serious straightforward guy and Sonic is a cheeky cunt but they both share the same morals and can rely on each other
>>570396446Look at the design of his eyes and chestfur, you literal autist. Nobody else but Shadow has that. NOBODY ELSE.
>>570396497Erm
>>570396167In Tailstube there's literally art of Tails cooking for Sonic. And the laundry thing was said in this episode https://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I?is=10teInmvTUHzmLzLAt around the 1 minute mark
which sonic character is likely to speak spanish
Krack seethes about trannies all days because she has gender dysphoria and wishes she was male, lolShe has admitted to almost transitioning. It's literally just sour grapes. But she doesn't realize that repping is just going to make it worse when she does inevitably troon out.But it's why she's doubled down on the whole gender/sex muh women/men are separate creatures who can never understand each other essentialism
>>570396173>Silver dislikes punsWe are no longer friends, you and I.
>>570396706Shadow because he wants to impress Latinas
>>570396606jet has both
>>570396637Really? I don't believe it. All the troons are always males
>>570396706Sonic duh
>>570396478No one said the characters are interchangeable. But the creator explicitly said that was the template for their dynamic.
>>570396478>I'm tired of these Dragon Ball parallelsTake it up with Tails' creator.
>>570396295>Look at him retard he's exactly like Shadow you fucking retard, can't you see he's black with short shoes and red stripes? you retard how can you be so blind you retard?
>>570396591and all it took was looking through several side games some baby friends videos and various japanese sources to come to this instead of putting this in say sonic 06 or forces
>>570396575Then you remember Sonic and Tails aren't Piccolo and Gohan respectively the same way Shadow isn't Vegeta and Silver isn't TrunksYes Sonic was more serious back then but he was still a goofy cartoon character and he had a soft spot to him. Sonic was paying attention to Tails and was like a protector to him in Sonic 2
>>570396295By your schizo logic Shadow is a rip-off of Super Sonic with Amy's rings. But it's only ever bad when Silver does it according to you, schizo.>>570396606Jet and Storm. Silver's like Storm's not Jet and Shadow.
>>570396701I dont know why youre interpreting it as him cooking for Sonic.
This is what you get when you invert Shadow and Silver's colors btw.
>>570396287Define Amy
>>570396771>essentialismYou deny biological sex and believe in souls. Your essentialism is just century old liberal nonsense. You're dumb.
I actually won that fight at Hidden Palace handedly before Eggman interfered, but SONIC retells it like -I- lost.
>>570397069>The black and white becomes white and blackholy shit
>>570395182>Gerald should have just grown Shadow the same rate as a normal baby. even it it would have delayed the project by 15 or so yearsMaria was going to die before that
>>570396937Again you're not understanding the point behind Sonic and Tails' dynamic. He isn't saying that Sonic and Tails ARE Piccolo and Gohan, just that they're BASED ON Piccolo and Gohan
>>570396563True. They should have made him playable in Colors Ultimate. That's what everyone was hoping for when we saw he replaced the lives system>>570396575>Then Tails proves himself capable and useful and he takes a shine to him.You made up this part. Tails lacks confidence in himself, and gains it by seeing Sonic. Nothing indicates that Sonic ever doubted Tails>>570396937No. He used Dragon Ball for inspiration. People in this thread act as if inspiration means it's literally the same character and you can use things from Dragon Ball as proof of something applying to Sonic. No one who works on the series has ever done the latter>>570396771Talk about Sonic
>>570396771Projecting tranny cope
>>570397069do they have amazing 69s too????
>>570397108Cheerful, energetic, always smiles, livens up the mood for everyone, and always daydreams about the boy she loves as if she and him were in a prince-and-princess fairytale
>>570397001They dont have to be those characters for their dynamic to be like those characters.Vegeta and trunks were keywords fot the conception of the characters. Thats different than saying "they dynamic between these two characters is based on the dynamic between these other characters" as stated by the characters creator.
>>570396173>>570396369
>>570396771>She has admitted to almost transitioning.i'm p sure krack has never said this.
>>570397252>Again you're not understanding the point behind Sonic and Tails' dynamicDifferent anon, dude.>He isn't saying that Sonic and Tails ARE Piccolo and Gohan, just that they're BASED ON Piccolo and GohanYeah, I know
>>570396470Yume franchise
>>570396173This feels very Amy-like
>>570396563Probably a consequence of jumping from 360 to Wii.
>>570397284>He used Dragon Ball for inspiration.Yeah, I know.>People in this thread act as if inspiration means it's literally the same characterThey're not, yeah.>you can use things from Dragon Ball as proof of something applying to SoniYeah, you shouldn't
>>570397049I'm not "interpreting" anything. We literally see Tails cooking for Sonic at 1:30https://youtu.be/CnnqXIGA_UQ?feature=shared>>570397445Yes but that doesn't mean their dynamic is the same. And again, the whole reason Tails exists is because of Sonic 2's multiplayer where he's the character for younger siblings. That's the actual dynamic.
>>570397358>always smiles,Not trueAs for the rest, I literally had a friend in highschool like that. Would talk about wanting to get married and junk too.
Krack I'm sorry I said you have masculine hands; I was just saying that because I'm insecure about my femine hands.
>>570396771Trannyschizos are just as annoying as trannys.
>>570397624What do you mean?>>570397537>>570397693So you jumped into a conversation without reading it?
Fuck Ideafags. Create, you losers. CREATE
>>570397714Only a tranny would ever say this
>>570396126Unironically better than Frontiers
>>570397713You're racist
>>570397842With AI?
>>570397284Yeah I'm not understanding why he keeps saying Sonic scoffed at Tails in Sonic 2 when the manual says Sonic looks at Tails sideways despite him appearing to not care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBX147eG1Fw
>>570397835>So you jumped into a conversation without reading it?Yeah, got a problem?
>>570397714Tranny, I...
>>570397698They literally said there dynamic is the same. You're just denying facts you dont like at this point. For what reason I don't know.Probably shipping reasons because it always comes back to shipping.
>>570397945Yeah, and?
>>570397710Amy smiles a lot. What do you mean not true?
>>570397842What should I create?
>>570397606this one is more amy-ishi guess silver will dick down both sonic and blaze.
>>570397968The cope over TailsTube is funny too
>>570398121Scifi characters. I'm daydreaming about making a game.
>>570397842People here for the most part lack the talent to actually create, they just like to bicker about stuff
>>570396193>>570397216>There's a very strong likelihood Shadow cannot have children, either because he was created imperfectly or they decided it wasn't necessaryMakes sense. Shadow was made as fast as he was in order to rush an immortality serum so Gerald could save his ill granddaughter. That and the Military wanted to use him as a super solider to defeat their equivalent to the Soviets.Ironically if Gerald just pulled a Mr Freeze and froze Maria in a cryopod, He would had the time necessary to make Shadow the true Ultimate lifeform he mealy pretends to be. Assuming of course that G.U.N wouldn't have found another way to fuck things up.
>>570397968>Sonic looks at Tails sidewaysIm genuinely curious as to what you think that means.
>>570398046He didn't say they're the same. He said Sonic and Tails' dynamic is based on Piccolo and Gohan's dynamic. Sonic is the older figure who is like a protector to Tails. Sonic is also serious, which is how he was portrayed in these early days. You're twisting things in order to shove your Dragon Ball bullshit into the series. Sonic is it's own franchise with it's own set of characters and ideas.
>>570398237why does his muzzle look like poo poo
>>570397842You're asking a gaggle of extremely autistic people with linear thought processes to be creative. We can't.
>>570398117The "always" part. Amy has a wider spectrum of strong emotions than just smiling.
>>570397616>Jet/ Babylon/ Blazs/ Iblis connection>tanabatathis franchise lore is a ticking timebomb
>>570398220>I'm daydreaming about making a game.Quit daydreaming and start making shit.>>570397956Depends. What are you using it for?
>>570398263That he's paying attention to Tails instead of just letting him do whatever behind him
>>570398284https://youtu.be/cuVw5i9T93o
>>570398121titties and ass
>>570398295They can only copy, never create.
https://files.catbox.moe/t23peg.png
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>570398609Fleetway's Sky Pirates
>>570397835>What do you mean?Weaker hardware meant they couldn't have Tails follow behind in boost formula.
Did an oil change today.I want to exchange "pleasantries" with whoever was the engineer who placed the oil filter on my car. I swear I just want to talk.
>>570398518No stupid. To "look at someone sideways" (or "give someone a sideways look") is an idiom meaning to look at them with suspicion, skepticism, disapproval, or confusion.He only does the checking up on him thing afterwards when he sees he is keeping pace.
>>570398472Nah lazy
>>570398609
>>570398672Off topic?
>>570388239How can he be white when he doesn't have rational thinking?
>>570398672Why do Tailsfags complain about people being off topic while posting things like this?
>>570398740Then throw out those dreams since you're not doing anything with them.
>>570398789Tails is a mechanic. He does maintenance all the time.
I don't think it's possible for franchises that continue to pile on characters and lore to function long term. Sonic is basically an island of trash that doesn't float away because its holding itself together. Everyone just has their own favorite piece of trash.
I trimmed my balls today
>>570398769Official release when?>Mania devs kicking themselves since they were too early to resurrect it in favor of Mean Bean
>>570398121>What should I createFun rule of cool action adventure>>570398557>titties and assThis too
>>570398680No dude, Sonic is pretending to not pay attention to Tails, but he's keeping a watchful eye over him. You're taking the phrase in a vacuum instead of looking at the context it's used in
>>570399070Your nuts.
>>570399070This is the second day in a row that someone has talked about shaving their genitals.
>>570398831You really like this picture.
>>570399070Good for you, anon
>>570399106No, youre ignoring the context below. Holy shit.
>>570399174Idk why they bother. Not like they're ever gonna get laid.
>>570399070Oh okay, well th-wait, WHAT?!
>>570399220hows that cognitive dissonance treating you libcuck
Anyone shave while high as hell?
>>570399306The context is that Tails is following Sonic and Sonic is watching him follow him. If Sonic didn't trust Tails during Sonic 2 then he wouldn't let him fly his plane in the game
>>570398290he uses guns so he must be black!
>>570399342What's your problem?
>>570399220
Chroniclesfag should add have writing like Scribbles that would be crazy
>>570399508Its a joke.
>>570397108
>>570398663I see. I think they could have pulled it off on the Wii, they just didn't want to and wouldn't have done it regardless>>570398680No, that's not what that means. It's just contrasting "Sonic doesn't seem to be paying attention to him" with "but he is actually keeping an eye on him". The translation didn't mean to use that idiom, it's worded that way because the Japanese word it uses can be matched to "sidelong glance" in dictionaries, specifically one of the kanjis that make it up means "side", so they went for something similar in English, but it doesn't have that connotation in Japanese.>あいてソニックはマイルスのことを相手にしていないようだじつよこめみが、実はちゃんと横目で見ていたりする。Machine translation goes with "keeping an eye on him out of the corner of his eye".>>570398894Not everyone who posts Tails is the same person. I complain about off topic transgender /pol/ drama namefag shitposting. That said, there are different types of off topic, I'd still rather have this >>570398672 type of off topic over that
>>570399660Never gonna happen. They're too different.That's like saying Mario should have writing like Final Fantasy
Ask me anything and i will answer EVERYTHING
>>570397108Girl.
Evan screws up with other characters besides Silver but all you care about is Silver.
>>570399827Are you gay?
>>570399495
>>570399758EverybodyLoveAmyb is my fave live action sitcom
>>570399965No, i'm straight
>>570399827Why is Sonic Team so incompetent?
>>570399990it was a different time
>>570399925Like who? Sonic? IDWnic is borked in general.
>>570400138TailsShadow Eggman
>>570400187>>570400187>>570400187
>you now remember the black psp squirrels
>>570400110Not enough budget and poor direction from sega
>>570399827Why is Woefag such a failure?
>>570399990Why did he make Shadow look so fruity
>>570399430she looking at that huge deer butt
>>570399997cute amy pic
>>570392364I almost never post here, so no.
>>570380608i've been seeing silvazefags say stuff like ''silver is blaze's amy'' or ''silver is the malewife'' for years. a lot of it was uwuver ignorance rather than based on something but i've seen people who dislike uwuver or discourage it still imply similar stuff. you gotta give credit where it's due, shipfags often intuitively grasp things about the story or character dynamics where non shipfags confirm its true based on digging obscure information years later.