Inside you there is two wolves, they are both gay Edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Vengeful Spirit of Windcry Peak, Kagero - Until 7/8Fangs of the Clear Mirror, Shiou - Until 7/1Lone Star of the Shattered Sky, Savia - Until 6/24>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Encursed War Demon, Gillion - Until 6/24[No CC LOL] Life Stealer, Erwin - until 6/14>Battlefront of HeroesSeason 2 never ever>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:[New Class] Healer[New Race] Fairie - https://rentry.org/hz88qmqs[Great Value] New passports available - 2000 org for $5, 3000 org for $15[Controversial] Tapjoy Offerwall - offers frozen for burgers[New Quest] Forgotten Craft of the Medicinal Arts - earn a free Camille (bricked with bad growths)[Boss] Fallen Demon[Farming] Sand Shadow Cave - new quest to unlock silver eastern junk[Weapon Update] New ninjato passiveSell-Buff - 6/15 to 6/21[June Roadmap] https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2061372533119864890>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN) [Recommended]https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>569689387
1000 junk later and I still can't get a 4* surety alter
How much of a Increase of damage is leveling up a skill or is it different for each character? I was able to get 2 copies of kagero in 20 rolls and would like to roll again.
>>570415198Most skills are around +10% per level. Certain skills (usually any legendary inherit) get +50% at lvl 3.Kagero's skill is too weak. Just unlock your discipline with the second copy.
>>570415198It depends.Active legendary skills are usually like 20/30% per level, but increasing SP costs.
>>570411950Ninjato Ninja when you fully invest gives Masketta man good survivability and good damage output with lots of sureties.Samurai and Fighter should still output more damage, but won’t be able to dodge for shit without compromising their damage.
>>570415579>>570415512Ok thanks, I just wanted a dopamine hit, I have a 6 Bp Dex and 7 Bp IQ Kagero. I'll hoard my gems for another day I guess
>>570415870Yeah but double sagger already does more or else the same damage+the substats for the other hand let you get a bunch of stats that either match or surpass ninjatos. So far ninjatos only seem to be good on Kagero and Rinne MoF spam.
>>570417959Ninjato is fine on MC for farming and SP conservation. If you proc follow-up attack, +1 ninjato hit is always better.
just tested ninjato damage on unending deaths>ninjato: 478 atk / 197 EVA>dagers: 412 atk / 387 atk>121 surety both>ninjato ~1.4k>daggers ~2.3kam I doing something wrong, I mean I'm using a beclouded+10, but that's all I got
How much surety does MoF nees to crit?
>>570418298just tested decisive torso strikeninjato: 2.7kdagger: 2.7kguess ninjato is there for ninjas when they need 2h-type damage on skills like dts
>>570419098can't lie, I'm sorta underwhelmed based on what people were saying here and "there" like it was the second coming of christ for ninjas
ability to rename equipment when???
>>570419257It's okay. I like the ability to surety for 4400 while having >300 evasion.>>570213161>>570213678It's definitely a niche weapon choice for times where you need to evasion-max.
>>570419975yeah it's pretty decent-nice, it's like having something similar to a 2h weapon for a ninja if you use hard hitting skills like DTS, not really sure if it's exactly better than dualies if you want to use minor or even moderate attacks like unending
>>570411792Any other thoughts? Have people even spent their tokens yet or is everybody just saving?
>>570422701People are hoarding the bones forever so they don't have tokens. Otherwise, they are hoarding tokens for remains III which should have the raven dagger.
>>570422701Cuisinart or hoard
how do you unlock sand shadow quest part 3? i just redid the quest and didnt see any new optionsdo you actually have to unlock the ninja class? I never unlocked it since I would never kill one of my own adventurers.
>>570406965Wrong. Mathematically false.
>>570424021>do you actually have to unlock the ninja class?Yes, the plot of the new quest is that you are a heat-haze successor testing some new ninja recruits.
>>570424541Well that sucks, they should keep to it and make it so the knight or priest advance class tests if you would ever sacrifice one of your own and deny it if you have, locking out ninja users.
>>570424794Okay. I had evil alignment at the time, therefore no sacrifice was made, so I'm free to get both classes.
>DTS3 ninjato (520 att 345 eva, fairly optimal) - 4327, 4182, 4307>DTS3 hairpin (272x3,335x2, not optimal while still having 306 eva) - 1302+1384+1391 = 4077All surety. I think ninjato can be safely ignored if you have a hairpin or raven dagger.
>>570425475>gee willikers gwos, you don't need ninjatos if you just use these gacha weapons
>>570423506when is cuisinart actually good
>>570425992when your fighter is at least 450x3 and has 100+ surety
>>570426097how can I check that without having a cuisinart
>>570425475What did you test the numbers on?
>>570425670I have a hairpin but no raven dagger. Maybe at some point I'll need a combination of evasion+SP efficiency that forces me to use covert strike (same damage as DTS3) ninjato>>570426097Does the level of FPS factor in too?>>570426325Just the red spinner. I'm sure something like a +def snowclops would put the hairpin vs ninjato debate to a real test.
Wizardry Alive and Vibrant Daphne
>>570429923
>>570429923We are all ghuls here
>>570429923If only japanese weren't lazy asses and could make updates more substational than a simple stat edit. There aren't even whispers of the next abyss yet, been like 6 months since abyss 4. Didn't they hire more workers? If they could actually do a rotating end game event, like lets say as soon as arena ends the old castle ruins open another season, then at least most players would have a reason other than farming to return regularly.
>>570436595>Didn't they hire more workers?They probably fired those hires a few months later so they could cut costs with AI. A couple 3D modelers, a dude to fix the vibe code (always after they push the patch, of course), and the three take turns on social media duty/customer inquiries on their lunch breaks. Truly a small indie company.
Hey I wonder if any of you guys have been having this same problem with the berry bone in A4. Whenever I get to Iris, it says "give her the berries you already have" despite not picking any on the way. I say no, get the request, but then when I get to the clearing full of berry bushes, after picking a single one, Lulu says you have enough, and the game won't let me pick any more bushes, locking me out of the bone. Is there a way to avoid this? I've restarted, unchecked the check that says I got the berries from the man on the tavern etc, nothing seems to work.
>>570437148Your inventory tracks how many hand-picked berries you have. You might have to do a couple of loops of just giving Iris whatever you currently have at the start of the quest until it lets you pick more.
>Unironically dreamed about BTDEGuys I think I'm warping...
>>570438349Oh shit just did that and it worked. Thanks!
>>570418298>>570419098Are you still using a +10 weapon ? If so that's why it feels underwhelming
>>570448045Based on that guy's stats, a +15 or +20 really wouldn't change that much
why is it called 'Variants' and who is Daphne?
>>570414230What's up with the Wolf Boy?
>>570454106he hunger
>Roaming bountiesoh god why
Grab your mausoleum bones
Sea of conquest tapjoy has been nerfed (120k -> 35k). If you were waiting until you had a month to waste on that one, that opportunity is gone.
The new mausoleum bone this week is Camille.
I got the scruffy boy
Has anyone else had issues with the Steam version crashing a lot in battles in Alabaster cave lately?
>>570465879For me the game occasionally crashes when I play at 2x speed and someone uses a poised all-out-strike, it could be something like that for you?
>>570464609Still salty that the only speed boon Camille I got from dumping all my bone tokens ended up being 90 fortitude. Wish there was actually a way to get more tokens outside of events that happen once in a blue moon. Guess it's time to play the long game with mausoleum bones.
Which Grade exam had Fairies in it again?
>>570467028NTA but I have the exact same issue, game often crashes when Masketta uses poised at 2x speed
>maps still get resetWHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT!?!
>>570453578it's a gacha version of an existing franchise and there is a field of daphnes in the 4th abyss
>>570426417>Just the red spinner. the red spinner is fine to test with if the only goal is determining raw dmg
finally beat the 4th abyss now to do it 2 more times
What's the best strat for that bounty golem? Do I really need to build 2H hammers? Are my sam useless?
>>570484681if you're really desperate there are silver hammers on the item shop
>>570484681If you have double Eva debuff, yrsa, ACC up, and 200 ACC you should be fine with any 2h fighter. Using hammers instead frees up a lot of turn economy.You could just wait for ranger MC for that bounty.
>>570484681You need rangers since they turn it from a complete and total slog into somewhat of a slog.
>Asha smacks a large enemy to death with her staff>"You have only yourself to blame - don't hate me!"I wonder how many lines there are that you likely will never hear.
>>570488491Probably warriors/knights/thieves having magic lines like Chloe
>>570490475>Oh, flames!
>>570490475I think ninjas have lines for crits, but you would only hear them for other characters if you had the gacha crit knife
Kill Lanavaille
>>570493283shut up gerulf
>>5704177536 Bp Dex and 7 Bp IQ Kagero, Which one do I start using? I don't know how much of a effect boons have since I've seen people have divided answers.
>>570497694Dex one would be more useful I imagine
>>570500589Yeah, IQ is useful on non-casters if and only if you want to invest them into becoming your chest opener.
I was promised a Dungeon Meshi collab 3,000 years ago.
KAMEN NO BOKEN
>>570415870>>570417959ninjato masketto can use MoF without it hitting like a wet noodle, kinda
>>570504532You're still 1,000 years early.
>>570509130I'm hesitant to waste an MoF on MC when he already has malefic and ichimonji as samurai and will soon get wide volley on fighter/thief.
>>570514465I have rolled precisely 1 (one) Rinne from my 2 BONES 2 BONERS despite rolling about 250 of them.
>>570517490I've gotten 7 Gerards and 5 Redbeards in 200 pulls. Bone 2 is a huge scam since only Redbeard and Rinne have good inherits.
>>570517984I need Benises for disciplines however, so they’re far more valuable than anything else.
>>570517490I got 2 Rinnes, 2 Wanas, and a Savia from my new years bones before they release remains II. I'm a bit salty that my only limited character from that was a 5bp boonless Sheli.>>57051798412 hits in 200 is better than average. I got exactly 5 when I opened 100.
>>570504532I replied to the survey last month specifically begging them not to do any collabs.
Didn't they do an interview earlier this year saying we were getting another collab? Or was that referencing the B&B rerun (featuring Ainikki from the hit light novel Blade and Bastard)?
>>570525125The implication was there were multiple IIRC.
>>570529430P5 collab into EoS incoming.
this general used to be alive before
Garbage would've prevented this.
weird way of saying a5
the real garbage
>>570538364It probably was a waste to pull her (and buying any collab bones in general), but I'm happy with slotting her onto my auto-team instead of Alice/Pri-MC.
>>570539124I got her and yeah it was waste. her kit is just terrible, which is shame as she have really soothing voice line in eng
real Treasure
hmmm, should I?
>>570541056Yes, obviously. Always. You only ever have to buy it once.
>>570541113dont have sheli and my gillion is d0 90 fort
>>570541208Dude, that's my Gillion. Give him back you thief (after you CC him)
>>570541208You're more likely to get sheli than for that book to show up in random rotation again
>>570541494
>>570541697hmmlet me think
Neck reaper worth 100 coins? Or should I use on trying to get a wolf with an IV?
Good news, it seems that after doing the new Sand Shadow quest, the exp gain is updated, so i has became good to level up>>570544280The Neckreaper is on level of the Yuzu's Harpin in terms of power, but only if you want to commit to it, like Kagero wants a Savia inhert to be good.
can someone make this picture but with Elmon instead of Etna?
>>570562701Best I can do.
>>570562701>>570564496I swear I've seen these exact posts.
>>570564750yeah i swear I saw an elmon with a cock hat before but I made a new one anyway.
Sooo what's the deal with the church? Shagtis being a pos was setting it up to thrm being the standard evil JRPG church but after doing all the Abysses witht he factions it's clear they're the only good guys? Look how they handle A4 for example. Avare was 110% gonna keep the Crystals going and turn a blind eye to yhe giga torture of fucking 5 year olds, and the royals are too clueless to do anythinf and sociopathic to give a shit, princess retard is never gonna fix anything. Even the faction quests are: Sea Freighters being opportunists, Royals doddering about trying to patch shit, the Church actually standing on business and putting belt to ass on evil. Am I crazy? Is the church just good? Even the random priests like Godefroi and the village one married to the witch were lawful good.
>>570566191All the sides have good and evil parts. Shagtis is obviously evil, but the church largely tries to do good. Princess is good, but the rest of the nobles are evil.
To farm the new ninja gear, do I have to redo the Plot of the Sand Shadow from the beginning? That would suck.and take forever to get a maxed out headguard .
>>570567421Don't max that pos headguard. With healers stun isn't really a big deal unless you're whale cave farming or something.
>>570567421its 0 strength random crapnot even guaranteed 2 unity 3* blue
>>570566796Even Shagtis being evil is born out of being an extremist rather than doing so for the sake of it. Avare was 100% on board with making pacts with witches and demons, and the princess was hesitant to even stop Guane's Epstein beastfolk operation. Pontiff instantly went FUCK demons and put that nigga Guane on the stake. Big difference.
>>570566191How far are you?Shagtis is shady but there is either more of him, he has split personality or writing team is on drugs
>>570568279Him being a polite and soft spoken companion in A3 doesn't really change the fact he made some kid an orphan off bs claims.
>>570568101>princessIts not that she is evil or even morally grey. Just sheltered and inexperienced. >>570568424Was that same shagtis tho?
>>570467028>>570478947After it triggering a few more times today I've noticed that the majority of the in-battle crashes happen just before or on Yuna's turn when she's going to use THB on Auto and at X2 speed
>>570568483There's more than one Shagtis?!?!
Is duo daggers still the best way to fish for crits? or is barehanded better? All my ninjas have enough ACC to hit most things in the game without weapons now.
Other than the weekly level up mission, what's the point of the Wanderer Class? If I recall correctly, you only get Heavy Attack skill.
>>570564496There should be one with better lightning, right? Warm instead of cold.
>>570539794i still want her. Does she have CC yet? And hwere's the 2x gacha bow
>>570574618Wanderer can go into any Class Trails. That's about it.
>>570538364The only good thing about her is her English voice. Her Japanese voice is lackluster despite being voiced by a very famous VA.
>>570564750We're running out of content even for the thread itself so we have to reuse posts
>see earth monster>cast Migal on it>normal effectiveGod damn it, Pokemon really screwed me up whit elemental effects
>>570578315you can throw fire at the giant fly trap and it isn't super effective, so weird
First time seeing fairy gearI'm liking them hope we'll have more gear like this
How much of a brick is a boonless legendary?
>>570578815no farming fairy gear is fucking retarded. Just like any specialty gear they add. So fucking retarded Im getting tired of the grindge experience.
>>570579519I think their stats are evened out so it's potentially better than something like Dex just because u will end up with like 2-3 more points of speed than a bad boon. Pretty sure that's right.
I got a Camille with SPD boon from the Mausoleum. Time to level up my first healer.
pale elf butthole
It has been done.
>>570579519on a scale of 1-10?some where around 0.1-0.5
All that for a 1* white headguard. Thanks heat haze man.
Remember to farm your bounty medals for the month.https://streamable.com/4hqdhp
>>570592951>95 ASPD>111 SUR>676 DEFWTF I'm such a gearlet
>>570593903These purple 4* slime boots are still one of my favorite pieces of gear for her.I didn't notice that Ophelia was holding the better chestpiece, gotta pump up the mdef too.
Nevermind, the +26 mdef doesn't change much.
What boons and point distribution would you use for a knight: ATK or LCK?
>>570596313VIT LCK
>>570592951I need to level up Ophelia.
>>570592951How do you like her as a knight? Mines just a chest opener right now with a bow right now.
>>570598271Debra is one of the best guardian blow knights when she has her alt form for all the surety boosts. Otherwise, you could use any high discipline knight for tanking (beastfolk legendary preferred for highest SP).She is a bit like Adam where her inherit is so good that you probably don't want to build her.I haven't invested enough trap detect/disarm for her to be good at chests while as a knight. I'm currently investing those into my MC to use while Olive is benched until the next abyss.
>>570598232And now I'm just realizing that I mixed up Ophelia and Elise. I wanted the column boost for Debra, assuming that Elise doesn't die from wind weakness.That is a slight waste of 4 eckart copies for attract hit 3.
I hate the sword negro.
Got a Book for Mage Milana, got one benched at level 34 and disciple 8, should i get some thief abilites before make her mage?
>is behind me, isn't it?
>>570613485It depends on what you want her to do.Just mage stuff?Mage stuff and chesting? There's another detect passive at 35.
>>570613485it depends on what you want her to do, I like mine as thief, infront of yuzu for the dmg buffmage to 61(malefic wind) then back to thief imoblood edge / malefic wind on the same character was nice utility on the deranged sword fiend fight, if you get the inherits, delay attack at 3+ is decent for some things
Faith restored! Exchanged all my tokens!Thank you JD! This makes up for being an IV-let.
>>570620207can you stunlock sword fiend with freezing?>
>>570617404>>570620207i think to keep her as a mage, since i don't have that many of those and have a truckloads of Thievesalso disciple 8 should give her some hp at least and should not die to a breeze
>>570620659I never tried dalto I just had her maintain blood edge / malefic when he does the buffs
>mage Marianne book in the Jewellers finallyWorth the gems? Got some Jarmil's I can dump into her; I've mostly been ignoring general adventurers (beyond slowly levelling them all up), but as they keep re-running that coin quest and Asha's fairy quest, maybe those two are worth the investment.
>>570622606mage/priests are pretty good investment
>ran into the gamblers at the well in A3>bet a double and get up to 470>cool I just need a little more to win>try odd/even, a 2:1 chance should be easy to win and hit 500 with>roll for odd 7 times and bring myself back down to 100>IT WAS EVEN 7 TIMES IN A ROWI'M WARPING
>>570622606Do you have any other dual casters yet? If less than 2, you want the book immediately. The Jarmils are a waste, the only mage damage spells you want are malefic wins and laferu.
>>570622783>>570623340I have CC'd Adam, Alice, and Yeka; but as I plan on only swapping them back at 80, it might be worth having another mage/priest on the go, and I have Marianne's alt style whereas I was too broke for Asha's.
>>570623187I dont have that bondmate because every time I play it my game freezes
>>570623556>no hat
>>570623556You definitely don't need her with yek/adam, but a 400 gem book will not bankrupt you.
>>570623556
>>570623847>he doesn't have the coin>>570623908I'm bankrupt already, otherwise I'd be rolling for Shiou.>>570624106But what about priest Asha?
>>570624326
>>570624760>when your wife asks you to pick something for her to wearI better get her emo alt first.
>>570625102honestly, not a big fan
I'm a priest Asha enjoyerThough mine's a mage because her AoE is too good
>>570626203
>>570626734Vivi looks good too.I wish bonk priests were better, since I have plenty of priest/mages there's really no need for a priest/thief unless she had some frontline use.
>>570626934>I wish bonk priests were better,me tooI wish classes were somewhat more versatile(depending on gear and 2nd class) >best boyo
>>570626934Bonk priest (2h staff) goes into your auto party. It's an even easier inclusion with oblivion Abenius.
Ok thanks, Mine has and inky treasure trap detect and disarm at lvl 2. Kinda had to rush her since People told me I needed a thief for A3 and rushed through it. Haven't grinded gear for A4 yet. Just been doing dailies for the last month.
Debra now hits as hard as Ranger Yuzu, but Elise dies if she protects the frontline without proc-ing wotk. She lives if the cyclops targets her in the backline.Maybe a single fire hat is enough to save her even though it does not affect the fight if she stays dead until the greater harken revives her.
2/20 from the Sword Negro now.I don't think I can keep this up unless my luck turns around.
>>570634086I'm too lazy to grab a screen cap but,imagine I took a pic of the fairy with a caption saying "you can do it, you can do it! I'm rooting for you."
>>570634293>imagine I took a pic of the fairy with a caption saying>ooooo, it can go even deeper
>>570592951is it safe to fight the cyclops again
>>570634065Elf HP is unfortunate
>>570634856Yes.>>570634867Her hp sucks, but she is also trying to tank a 1100 damage hit boosted by 30%.
>>570635329cyclops are wind right?
>>570635329Does wind element make it that much easier to tank? I feel like my Savia never dies from the cyclops but maybe I'm just getting really lucky.
>>570635543
It's always funny to see the camera pan for the cover animation but it is actually Debra covering Elise. The opening still triggers.>>570635436It's non-elemental, but gale strike is wind.>>570635543Elise is earth. So she is getting bonked harder than normal.
>>570635814But you normally use Ophelia. Are other elements fine?
>>570635901Yes, any non-earth knight is going to have an easier time.I normally use Debra to take the one hit. I was trying a second knight today to give her +2 turns of guardian blow. I accidentally had Ophelia because I thought she had the column passive.Last month my frontline was Lana/Debra/Ainikki. The month before that was Lana/Debra/Yoizou
>>570636171wouldn't fire be better?
>>570636350She's so smug
>>570636471
>>570636350A fire knight doesn't give me a 4500+6000+6000+6000 damage Debra.I'm comfortably getting the 1-action kill so I don't particularly care if Elise is the most optimal or not now.I'm pretty sure the fire hat saves Elise but it has been several loops without triggering the exact scenario to test it (frontline target+no wotk proc)
>>570634065>>570636974She lives.
honestly,I miss the kot-posters.
>>570643160all warped
>Give albertio proofs>get executed
general has gotten way too comfy as of recent
>>570645432more like dead
>>57064532320 gems
1 yearly abyss aint it
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34201612/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cst_sm
>>570645432We're past the point of comfy, g-cwo
>>570646006can't wait for the relic up event this week(could be next week), so I can spam farm sentry cyclops and snow cyclops!!!! Maybe one of these days I won't be farming alabaster!!!!Fun game!!!!
>>570592951do you use knight ring?
>>570646696My knight ring is currently trapped in the Lana dispatch. I usually opt for the master ring for the surety and overall stat buff, or something with higher aspd.
When is teaser for next abyss. Even the nyo content posters have died off.
>>570647486you can uncap the master ring now?
why did drecom make the chest/check goto location button on the top right, no sane person holds their phone by the top right corner of the screen, and they certainly don't have thumbs that are nearly half a foot long
>>570647486Did you use a stone on the knight ring? I imagine it would actually be a nice boost to guardian blow damage but knights definitely need aspdI think I can probably make up for it on my other gear
>>570648104>Did you use a stone on the knight ring?Yes, an FAS
this is my debralet
>>570649290this is the Savia I uselately i've been trying to have shiou eat the hit with lingering and then popping ephemeral but thats just because I like gambling
>>570649738I'm also dumb.
idk why the current patch procced the conditions for me to do this but this isn't as annoying as I thought it would be to reset/farm
>>570652885I'm pretty sure the unlock condition is just A3 good end because it is a continuation of the gambling sidequest.What's your strat for the gambling? It's been a while since I did the grinding for lvl 5, but I think my best strategy was going all-in on an 8:1 sum until I got it, then attempting two even/odds to go from 400 to 500.
>>570653492I'd never seen it before, when I went to start cyclops this month they told me about a guy near the wellI've just been roll 50 on double, reset if I fail, I've got it within 10 so far but I've only done 4
>>570653816>reset if I fail,?
>>570654028they give you the 50 tokens 4 times before you have to either pay or fightif you alt+f4 before you make that last choice you can just try rolling again is what I've foundOR you can pay the 10k(cheap) and wheel
>>570654028nta, but he probably means using the free greater harken revive from challenging the boss and losing. You also get your tokens refilled 3(?) times before you actually lose.
Rise again from page 10
I haven't played since they added the fourth story dungeon? Have there been anything new of any worth or am I better off waiting for another half year?
>>570414230WAITwhat character is Fairouz Ai voicing in this game?
>2 and a half hours
>>570673248we dead
>>570664427all of them >>570646006
what killed the gamewell I kinda wanted to farm stuff but after farming so much with NOTHING to show for it I got burnt out, so now I'm doing dailies only
>>570674849>arming so much with NOTHING to show for it
Surpirsed to see berkanan now has a fully voiced line for drinking relicbrew
>>570538364elf tummy
Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
>>570678638Berka the usefull
>>570683265
>>570673248For what?
>>570684554That’s how long it takes Shiou to use her new unique skill.
>>570678638I noticed few new lines(or maybe they were always there)Like if you kill some mob that killed someone else then your adventurer have different voice line than for normal kill(revenge voice line)
Adventurer for this feel?
Are all the 5* class change scrolls paid gems?
>>570695958?THEY ARE RNG, I got legendaries cc from green games
>>570695958they've been doing class change events every few monthsI've been using them to stockpile CC scrolls for my favorites
>>570697884CC system is retarded, just pain in the assif only you could buy class change back tokens for gold
the dog killed us
>>570701967we were already dead, the dog just eaten the bones
>>570702812it really is a doggy dog world
Any gwos ever have to recover their account via the official Support Inquiry forms? Roughly how long did it take, if so?
>>570706587FEW HOURS TO FEW WEEKSdo you have your ID? what happened
>>570706587Took about a week.
kept going with the gamblers bondmate>lvl 2 - 199acc>lvl 3 - 199acc>lvl 4 - 201accdoes anyone know if there is a larger increase at lvl 5?
MOCK THE GODS! LET THEM BE MOCKED!
>>570706587a week and half for me, but it was after christmas
Bed breaking sex for the purpose of procreation with Savia!
>>570729821Seeing Kagero, i can understand why she went lesbian.
the gooner gacha i play gets more content that this game
>>570731862Game? Does it have BTDE?
>>570731862There's like 10 and half people working on this isn't there? Then they spent like 90% of the budget on voice actors.
>>570744558doubt it
>>570746828yeah it's probably like 5...
I'm tired of grinding the mines gwos.
no...not yet
GO TO THE MINESNOW
>>570754698I don't like your tone.
*notices your ninjato*Kagero: OwO what's this?
>>570757816>sniffs your ass from the shadows
O JD, PLEASE BESTOW UPON US AN ELISE ALT WITH A SURETY DISC
>>570762373JD ignore this anon, elves are gay.give us Amelia alt to mark 4 weeks of beastfolk
I, JD, have decided to exclusively release male dwarves until morale improves.
When is summer alts, I need my bikini gerulf
>>570768806Last year it was mid-August.
What other banners are on list for this month?
>>570771476None. The June roadmap was 1 lego and 1 alt which we got in the first two weeks. No CC announced either.They could surprise us with more new characters or a 4-character rerun.
>>570772289>They could surprise us with more new charactersBahahahahaha! This one is truly warped!
>>570674849And also farming for what, most content lately are either things you can easily handle or whale only territory. Recycling 2k pieces of junk for 5 more attack on your +20 gear isn't going to change that. They really need to get going on abyss 5 and I can already tell they are delaying since they don't want to put in all the work of adding skills to a new level cap
Next level cap will finally give thieves Advance Sneak Attack, trust the plan. No but seriously, why did they remove it? It was supposed to be unlock at level 55 or something.
>>570778550>Thieves? Doing damage?>No!
>>570778896>thief Rinne and Arboris snickering in a corner
>>570778550here what it would be a neat buff for the thief, just let them wield a dagger offhand
>>570778550My Rinne's Sneak Attack Lvl 3 hits like a fucking truck though.
how is this gatchashit related to the good Wizardry games? meaning six seven & 8
>>570789128>good Wiz gamesYou mean Busin and Busin 0.
Maintenance is longer than usual and has a larger download again.
>>570789128>6 7 and 8 You'll get forsaken land 2 and like it
>>570794484Mini abyss!
What does the new apprehend quest give? Worth doing early? Too lazy rn
What could’ve been…
>>570801286What could’ve been is us getting super cute kemono Yuzu and all the other beastfolk girls but no, what we got is sexual dimorphism for cowards and I'm tired of pretending its not.
>>570802821Ambiguously gay frog beastfolk male when?
Do we have any news about the Blade & Bastard anime?
>>570789128six seven!
>>570806312yes, its cancelled
>>570808519Proofs???
These caves are so shit to farm I’m warping out.Where’s my modern day Fordraig?
>>570816795Fordraig was a fluke. Drecom is too incompetent to make something that good, unless by accident or sheer luck.
>>570816795medica cave is not that bad, not that good as fordriag but better than other one
>1gb update comingwhat has JD cooked up?
>>570820869It’s probably some global asset update for new animations or UI elements for the turn order stuff.
>>570820869new bugs
The only thing left this month is:1. Relicbrew quest2. Higher relic monsters spawn3. New NPC helper in Guarda
>>570822935>New NPC helper in GuardaAre new players having a hard time in Guarda?
>>570823615The only difficult enemy in Guarda is probably the doll and now you can use a Healer.Maybe they want to make Guarda more interesting. Guarda is the weakest main dungeon in term of story.
>>570823615Getting the majority of players to actually play content and not just log in, do dailies, and occasionally roll is basically a constant challenge for gacha/live service games.That’s why especially as these games get older they tend to release less and less “main story” type content and focus on events anyone can participate in.
>>570823615yesfirst day player, spend over 20000$ and still didn't beat guarda
>>570824909That’s a literal skill issue.
>>570824909Is there any other strat than having savia tank while everyone either attacks or heals?
>>570794031Busin makes me feel good
>>570822935You forgot the new hinterlands quest.If we are being optimistic, 1gb could be assets for the rock god abyss.
>>570824251>focus on events anyone can participate inIt's a good thing that we are not at that stage yet because the last few months have had>hero league>black dragon>whale caveas events that no one can participate in
>>570830983we're also getting less and less main story too while not even two years in. what the hell are the devs even doing besides crack and whores.
>>570414230Wow this game has very bad reviews on steam
>>570832815>read 'very bad' (Mixed) reviews>half are from people who yeeted their own accounts because they aren't familiar with gacha>half are complaints about 'controls' in a DRPG with standard WASD+QE and mouse swiping>assorted 'muh rootkit' posts, AC breaking Linux posts>almost nothing about the actual game, and when it is, it's saying 'the game is good, but...'
>>570830983The black dragon was easy though?If you’ve cleared A4’s true end you should’ve been able to do it.
>>570834287>>half are from people who yeeted their own accounts because they aren't familiar with gachaDESU That is the real issue
>>570834287Standard for gacha games really
>>570832341It’s been 6 months since A4.A3>A4 was 8 months.
What was the verdict on alt Shious new attack veiled moon? Worth leveling up?
>>570846735didn't rolled and no luck with freesbies
>>570834287most free games, especially gacha will have reviews like this because they're free. it's like inviting people who don't even care about your game to complain
How would you rank the inheritance taunts available for Wolfenstein?(Shiou, Salvia, Gerald alt, Dawrf guy with rare inheritance)
>>570850776>SSShiou >SSavia >C GerardDawrf guy
where nyontents
>>570846735Seems kind of mediocre, and almost a waste of a turn.
Does the fairy respawn bug still work?
>>570856792Swo...
>>570862092I got about 100 fey fairy junk out of it, but every time I've asked about it I've gotten no response.
>>570862376Best give up on fairies bro. Elf healer is pretty good.
>>570863996My fairy has good gear though.It could just always be better.
>>570856792No idea, never used it
ASPD Autism.https://x.com/NOBU1358943/status/2066883258135240905
>>570852036unlimited cyclops killing soon!
>4 more months till 2nd anniversary>4 more new characters>Likely only 1 shot at Big Titty Dark Elf in that periodCan't believe we might get GTA6 before BTDE...
>getting a new post every hour, UNIRONICALLYhow the fuck do we fix this
I am the beastfolk fucker
>>570885442We all know the answer is "nyontents". Not just a shitty cave or a side quest, but something you can really sink your teeth into. Outside of Abysses or big events like the collab, the general is doomed to languish because all the new stuff to discuss will be covered in under 24 hours. Then we return to the status quo where grinders will post their tiny incremental improvements, while the rest just do their dailies.
I like Shiou's alt because she finally puts the katana away in the tavern
I like how shiou looks upset that she doesn't have a katana in her fighter and alt forms
>>570789128Japanese folx hated the six seven & 8 games. They only liked the first Western made Wizardry.
>>570888501
I didn't knew it was possible for the MC to become afraid of traps.
>>570891212
>>570892068My MC is race changed to Elf due to Well of Mind thoughbeit (for no particular reason, just didn't had any other node I liked)
>>570892715>My MC is race changed to Elf
we're getting 1 whole gb of content soon!!
wheres the guys stolen odachi
another 3 months to A5
I've been playing EOU1why is it kinda easy even on hard modelike the grimoire things and the drink buff are kinda OP but to be fair I am just in the 5th floor of the 1st stratum
Are other gachas this slow in releasing main story content?
>>570908384Story mode?
>>570909703classic
>>570909291We aren't getting abyss 5 until next year or maybe ever bucko. Most people can't even get through abyss 3, of those that remain the rest get filtered at ice wolf, and of the rest of us remaining maybe 1% have finished true end. So the incentives for them to work hard on the next abyss aren't much like a poster stated earlier most gacha games begin stalling story in favor of events, if only drecom actually made events for non whales the past 4 months or so.I'll remain stating that along with exponential guild tag requirements, not having gacha weapons automatically update to the the highest rank with each level cap raise will remain among their most retarded decisions and probably a holdover from when they didn't expect the game to last beyond a year. If there is news of abyss 5 before the anniversary, I'll gladly take it all back, but currently it doesnt seem like more than 2 or 3 people are working on this game.
uh nyontents incoming
>>570911896>thank u drecom for our weekly 10 minutes of nyontents
>>570892715You will never be a true elf
I need all the farmable holes to give as much currency as the collab. You can't seriously make people farm so much and not expect them to burn out
>>570911896I hope the relic appearance buff is massive, like 100% more, I'm actually gonna flip if it's only like 20%Tbh even if it's 100% the relic appearance rate goes from 2% to 4%, honestly fuck this game
>>570911896>adding feature to help shitters clear A3it couldnt be that difficult to normies could it? I mean just open a guide if they need to
>>570911896I wish we could see the stats on the clear rates of abysses, that would be pretty damn interesting
>>570915583you have to understand most gacha players are the lowest kind of brainded sludge, drecom was lucky to carve out a niche of old school boomer gamers, but the game needs to be more accesible to ever grow beyond it current niche.
Are spears long enough to hit the cum guardian when it’s down?I’m finally gonna do the mastermind ending, and it’s been so long I don’t remember.
>>570915583I don't think it's that hard either but you have to keep in mind that, sadly, being challenging and punishing mistakes is too much for the average player, who thinks P5 and expedition 33 are the epitome of RPGs.Plus what >>570915665, gachas also attract a different breed of retards
>>570916425Yeah. Your average X niggas in rows game gives you a full heal basically every 5-10 minutes these days if not more frequently, so having somewhat long attrition segments where you actually need to manage your resources slightly, coupled with the fact that levels are only a relatively small part of each character’s power level, and you need to actively manage equipment instead of just slapping the newest shit from the next vendor on everyone means you’re going to filter the absolute retard that is the average game player.
>>570917427>these daysFinal Fantasy 4 started this trend in 1992.
Not gonna lie, the Shiou variant is kinda ugly with that haircut. Won't lose sleep if I get nothing.
>>570920131I mean I'll take a free Alice. Better results than expected.
Drecom probably realize that many people abandon the game in Guarda so they would need someone to keep the players in the game.I wonder if we are going to get a waifu or a skeleton to help us.
>>570920885Would be nice if that one cute mage girl from abyss 2 that helped us out with bosses there would show up here too, but then again gaurda is a solo invasion basically, maybe a golem to help us out?
>>570920885It’ll be your faction helper.Elmon’s glorious return…!
>>570921120do you mean that thief?
>>570921371The semen thief shop owner Rickert, yes.
Rickert is a high level mage so her, somehow, infiltrating Guarda wouldn't be that weird.
>>570916403no, bows or bust
>>570922784Gay.
>>570916403Sneak Attack also works for some reason.
>>570923205Sneak Attack has the property of ignoring range penalties entirely, so that does make sense.But >>>>>>>>>>>>thieves
>>570920885damn the games 2nd actual real dungeon and people stop playing by then
>>570923205>>570923375I like the visual of your thief running a football field's length to the weak spot, stabbing it, and running back.
>>570915583It wasn't particularly obvious that you are supposed to traverse zone 7 three times (backtrack to zone 6 fountain) in order to beat the doll. I bet they'll just add a new fountain halfway through zone 7 and call it a day.
>>570927010You had to conceptually do that with A1 so I would think players would understand that idea already.
>>570930604I didn't, and A1 was 2 months earlier. I'm also a retard who didn't know about mid-battle weapon swapping until after A3 when anons were discussing old castle strats. I blame the UI for that one because you cannot use the inventory to swap weapons outside of battle.
>>570927010>you are supposed to traverse zone 7 three timesAre you? I just ran away from every fight after doing a test run to fill out the map and note the areas with FOEs. Even if there's an enemy in a 1-tile wide hallway, you can eventually clip through them if you run away enough.
>>570927010I just dodged all FoEs and most enemy patrols and beat some strangles then fought the doll.
Remember to wash your pets so they don’t stink.
The true final boss of Guarda is the gambler's fight.
>>570939976It’s just a real life luck check, just like gambling.
Invest in Albanocoin before Lord Albano becomes the one to carry us all through Guarda.
CAMILLE NO!!!
>>570952552Some of you gwos act like you would buy this without a hint of irony…
>>570952552
>>570952552I knew something was off about her
I wonder what the relic quest will entail.
something like...Gretings KYOUDAI IN THE WASTELANDS KYOUDAI THE STRANGE RELICS GET THEM THERE HEHEHEHE
>>570983521HARK Brother!The Abyss's blessing.
>>570983521Relicman is quite literally me.
>>570981436same as before, you go fight wolves in a4 and get 2 star relic or 20 slag
>>570984321The roadmap very specifically details a new quest involving the Black Lodge however.
>>570988510
Who else up reversing they junk rn?
Maybe we'll get something in December again
benis
>>570983971When will we get him as an adventurer
ザコじゃん~Where have I heard savia before?
>5 day old threadWhew gwos
>>571010251persevering.....warping.....
licks balls licks anus
maybe I should go on another hiatus...
Holy shit the relic drop chance is 300%
why the fuck is maint an extra 2 hours, these guys fucking up the relic appearance up buff or something???
>BalsamoAnother new adventurer?
Guarda changes>You can hire a dwarf adventurer to help with bosses>Can attempt to flee from sentries>Can change sentry patrols
>Got to hold onto ballsack to beat gardahaahahahaha
The rumours must be true, Guarda is where the average player gets stuck at.
Hah, looks like people weren't savoring the risk after all
are you fucking serious? shitters get to workalso only 1500 players? how dead is this game?
UI now shows your party's double turns.
>>571022291893 players on steam
>>5710222910 chance even 1500 players make it>>571022291Niche within a niche
Any particular reason why they made these ~lvl 50 enemies have a lvl 100 tag?This is the new urgent/daily cave which just exists for the the mission pass.
We the cream of the crop
>>571022291Lol lmao >Look at adventure pass5 bucks for 4 ungraded tags and easy to aquire items??? They need to fire whoever is coming up with their monetization, give me 10 or 20 bones without all the other useless shit for a clean 10 bucks and then you start having my attention. Throw in a 100xp skill scroll if you want people to regularly be buying those passes.,
>>571022501Superior nipponese coding.
The devs can fuck off if they want me to do this daily quest on a phone.
Well? Any news about the relic drop increase?
>>5710229832 week day of blessing. That's it.And a new Corvo quest.
>>571022291I doubt we'll even reach the first goal lol, well maybe if some Japanese streamer encourages new players.Well, to save face drecoms may give us the first reward anyways.
>>571023052But is the increase noticeable?
>>571023106Sure relic encounters increased by 1% so now cyclops will drop 2 relics every 100 encounters instead of 1.
Gwos they added in a fishing minigame
>>571023240Damn that's huge!
damn these ninjas really spent 1gb on fish models
im retiring and becoming a fisherman
Wtf it was actually real
It is bullshit that your allies refuse to give you a second callout if you miss the first one.This cave is way too big for a daily pixel hunt.
guarda hasn't even been hard for ages. elmon and ninja caves trivialized it. if people are getting stuck there they just don't like playing the game
>>571023926The Masked Angler
>>571024138thanks gwo I was missing that one and playing on mute.
>>571023926god damn, guess i need to finish A4 to unlock it (still have to do the wolf)
where should i kill 20 adventurers to finish the pass
>>571023926Any interesting REWARDS?
>>571024532Den of Light got some adventurers
I haven't completed it yet.In fact, I've been procrastinating it for so long I've already stocked enough xp for my Camille to reach lvl 70 (she's capped 60).I just don't really feel like playing the game.Also even if I complete it you will probably need to find 2499 other swos to get all le gemmies.Rather, I don't think anyone will get even the 500.Reason? 1250k. 1250k players need to complete the quest for the FIRST TIME in under 1 month.For multiple reasons, I think that's a pretty fucking demanding number.
Spearfishing in A2 when?
New relic. Obviously I won't be wasting it, someone else can try it first.>>571024931>under 1 monthIt's until 7/28, so about 5-6 weeks
>minotaur gave gorgon relicClassic Drecum
>replacing Ss with ZsAh, the new alchemist is German.
>>571022291Boomers just enjoy the grind, the game is too hard, they'll just sit down and enjoy easy content for ages. They still put money into the game regardless.ALSO, this is yet another reason why they take their sweet, sweet time releasing a new abyss: players aren't playing the new one anytime soon. In fact, they are so few, they just won't bother for another year if possible to release a new one. Sit down and enjoy little dungeon events instead. Want it to change? Sorry, there really isn't an easy answer here. If the main demographic, the one putting (literally) thousands of dollars every month won't bother... why try? Such is the fate of niches withing niches.
What did I even get from the daily?
Back to playing my single player games, I guess.Not bothering with completing Guarda Fortress.
>>571026063>not bothering with completing the best dungeon in the gameWhat did it mean by this?
>>5710258635000 gold. Maybe xp?
>>571026292Yeah I know about the gold but it's way too long for the point to be 5000 gold.
oh lawd, here he come
can you get a 5 star cyclops relic from any sentry in a3? or is it specifically like floor 10
>>571022501Could be to boost the exp yield, seems like they give quite a lot
>>571026697IIRC it was floor 10 only.
>>571026918ah i see thanks
The fishing game becomes impossible on the second loop. Nothing bites anymore.
>>571026387i did found a relic bug, it gave me 50 relic tokensalso it gives 12k per fight to my lv 67, is basically a glorified exp cave.still is an absolute pain in the ass to find the cocoons, expecially if you are playing mute.
>>571031029>Expecting anything to work on release.
>>571033346Maybe I'm just bad at it. I spent an hour and a half and 17 worms and only ended up with the 2 bass. I'll have to go buy 50 worms and do it all over again.
Can you wheel the quest to find the guy for your KYODAI?It seems odd that it gives knowledge but you can’t seem to do anything with it unless you need wheel the whole pixie quest.
>its an actual fishing minigameman now I have to play daphne again.
>>571031029It becomes the worst searching for needle in haystack game.Need specific spot with specific depth
>>571021994This is actually the death of the game, to meBeing forced to kill the first Cyclops I ran into with an extremely undergeared party (and limping back to town half-dead with no MP afterwards) is one of my top experiences from climbing that shithole, along with the general atmosphere that the dungeon was alive and it wanted you deadThat experience and atmosphere is now goneThey could have made it an optional shame-down for the absolute goobers who still can't do it (the dwarf needing Gems is a good and funny idea), but they deleted the thrills instead
>>571037284That sounds miserable. >Drecom not doing the worst possible implementation of a game mechanic challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
>hour 2 of a3 sentry farming>not even a single relic spawn on a single cyclopsnice
>>571022291Translation:>Please stop being stuck on doll. You can literally be immune to charm/confuse. We will pay you to git gud.
Guarda is tough since grinding for levels is not enough, for the doll unupgraded weapons and +15 armor should do it, then +15 weapons for gatekeeper.
>>571022291whos down to make 10 accounts and finish guarda on all of them
>>571022291>heh, wiz isnt like other games! it's super tough and only for real gamers. savor the risk...>wait what the FUCK do you mean 99% of the playerbase hasn't even finished abyss 3? we spent like THREE FUCKING YEARS making that shit only for nobody to play it?>thats millions of dollars and thousands upon thousands of man hours down the goddamn drain! FUCKING FUUUUUCK PLEASE BEAT IT! PLEASE JUST FUCKING BEAT IT! I'M BEGGING YOU! I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK! I'LL EAT YOUR SHIT! PLEASE!
Managed to get the average bass and average redfin. How does the lure mechanic work for the average catfish? There is no visual indicator for whether you are doing it correctly.
>>571043105It’s a common story.FGO is piss easy, and they had to bribe their playerbase with the equivalent of 54,000 gems to get people to catch up to the story in time for the final chapter of that story arc.
>"So how does it feel being ignored by fish?"Fuck you Lulu, I'm trying my hardest here.
If only I had Aibrikki I could probably get this number 20% higher 10% of the time.
>>571043105Just look at steam, most games have a completion rate of 25% or below. If this was released as a standalone game with the intended difficulty of the developer, it would have become known as the "dark souls of rpg's" any maybe sell 10k units at most. Now they have to dumb it down, if they were smarter, they could do something like the true end of each dungeon still being a challenge but getting an ending that lets you progress to the next abys be much easier. They kind of already do this, but the good ends still require too much, I had to look up a guide to get the good end in gaurda, I'm sure most of us did, but the common gamer will just smash their head against a wall until they quit.And idk why they cant figure out their monetization, it's a big powerspike too get a characters unique skill to lvl3 so why not incentivize new players to spend a few buck to get that skill online, not 100+ packs with random materials thrown in.
>do new quest>bullshit pixel hunting>expect an extra reward>NOPE JUST 5K GOLD HAHAWhat are the retards at drecum even thinking with this shit.
Time for trout round 2
>>571045324Apparently the mobs give increased xp so it's just another xp cave, but I had to look at the wiki to know that
>>571045727benis fish
>>571045128It’s also been out for over a year, so I don’t think some nerfs for babbies is that crazy, but it could be done more elegantly by having more events accessible to everyone that provide stronger gear and things like rocks and other resources rather than doing it directly though.They already do this with new grinding caves that give better junk, and character power creep.
>>571048593Honestly, if you're still struggling even after the 2h buff +2 extra caves, it's not really a difficulty issue
is there anythingworth doing in the new dailies or should I keep doing login simulator
>>571048593They already did all that, the issue is they aren't the type of players to put any effort into gearing at all and want it all handed to them.
There's a new Cave of Separation dispatch in the capital.
>>571022291WE DEAD
>>571045324>What are the retards at drecum even thinking with this shit.Dunno. Its like they want the game to fail.>>571048593>>571045128Maybe they should offer some real rewards for progression. Not the 20 gem for achievement.
>>571050510Back in the day, we would rush the SHIT out of these Abysses just to get one of the bugged celebration packs. Those were the days.
>>571050752>missed on themBut seriously.>killed da boss?>here celebratory pack, just 100$Fucking nip boomers
If you are in the 4th Abyss do you need to kill the Guarda GWO again for the reward?
Dying game
>>571045786Are there ninja in the new cave? Fairy?
>>571054883Just insects
Fishing is trash. Takes forever for the initial bite and you can run out of bait invalidating all quest progression up to that point (hours wasted)
Savor the fish
Has anyone savored their monster bird relicbrew yet? Effects?
>>571056348Allegedly Good, Raises Div/Mag and lowers critical resistance.
>>571057146Not bad. Most mages and priests have an empty slot. But it's only a 2* relic even if the quest is repeatable.
>>571021994>>571040503Yeah this is actually retardedThey gave it to shitters, oh well
>cocoons show up in complete random fuck off areas of the mapI don't think marking the map will help with this shit.
>>571059170Is there a reason to complete the request? Go in kill mobs for exp exit and it's a 5k gold loss compared to collecting the cocoons
>>571059554>Is there a reason to complete the request?Autism.
>>571054883No, only level 100 insects.
>POAS at 2x Speed crash my gameBravo Drecom
Do you get anything worth a damn from finishing the fishing quest? I know people love fishing mini games, but I don't.
>>571058012Is it repeatable?I don’t see a way to reset it.
>>571067157We don't know yet. It could be cave of flowers reset or redoing Corvo's A2 quest.
>>571067295If it is, might be a decent way to stock up on a bunch of generally useful relics like that and the scorpion woman one due tot the guaranteed spawns and drops, even if only 2 star.
>Line snapped at 1.2m when the rod wasn't even bendingFuck you, you slimy bastard.
All these new quests give jack shit lmao, only the relic one was a bit interesting but it's not even repeatable. The only bit of cope I got is some people speculate abyss 5 is coming at or around anniversary and this is them trying to get more people to progress
>posts ai slop
>>571068438And yet it took more effort than whatever john drecom is doing.
That's one, still need the other two.
The most annoying part of the second round is that all the small fish are still in the lake.
>>571068320Nips are saying release schedule and timeline is pretty similar to what happened in November and A4 released the next month but I’m too lazy to verify.
Masketta anus color?
using my ROG device to play wizardry
>>571068320how do you start the relic quest?
>>571022291>2000 gems if the shitters play the game
>>571070090Luknalia. Probably needs A4 because it upgrades cave of flowers to lvl 70 (but not silver junk)
>>571069914prussian blue
>>571070440Nah I'm on A3 and it showed up for me.
>>571022291I wonder if this mean 2000 different players finishing with the good/true ending or simply killing Bordaon 2000 times in total during the good/true ending.
>>571070440ive beaten a4 but i dont see it.
Haven't played in a long timeIs Fighter Masketta with 2hander still the best or can i safely change to Samurai without losing like half my damage per turn?
>>571073808Fighter is still best. Ninja to be Chrono man, samurai to hit for weakness or be a balanced Chrono man
the new cocoon search is a pain in the ass,I've been through the entire dungeon and couldn't find all five, I swear I've been through the entire thing three times
>>571076721It's just an exp cave, it's not worth completing the quest in the first place, but here
Are we getting another cocoon cave quest tomorrow?
Well my 600 defense savia with healer support is able to comfortably tank multiple hits in a row from cyclops that I can just take him down without critfishing now.
yuzu killed the game
>>571084965When do we get a fishing quest in Chloe's village?
>>571078329I just change my MC to fire and use all-around cover from the backline, works like a charm
Who do you guys use as a chest opener? Do they pull their weight in combat?
>>571087886MCNo matter what class he is he can open em
>>571087886Yuzu,Yes.
Is it just me or is the exp daily easier?
>>571088738The wolves? Yeah I noticed they don't spam howls anymore.
If they aren't opposed to adding extraneous shit like fishing, then let us keep some fish and add some groceries to the items shop so we can do some cooking during camps.
>>571090270Aren't there less wolves too? Like weren't there 3 4 wolves at the front row?
>>571091746And one behind the big wolf, yesAll I can say is the new abyss better be a portal into the rape dimension,and they need to keep it that way for at least six months if this is the way they're going
>>571088738I don’t know, I just turn on autobattle (without skills) and just do all my dailies that way.So it feels the same as always to me.
>>571092741I just want a decent difficulty throughout the whole thing. Relegating the difficulty to super hard rape bosses and that's it is boring. The wolf boss and adults were alright, but even in hindsight they weren't that bad and with half decent silver gear I can curbstomp them again.
>>571063789you can catch a big fish and show it to all your gwos!>>571087886I use have amelia (F) on my team but I have Savia(K) as my main chest openerI have a def and atk set(includes chest opening gear) for herwith enough investment you could make a lot of different characters work
shit i forgot to do the survey. my account is bricked.
>>571096475I true masketta does drecom's bidding even without the promise of reward
Abyss 5 will have us thrown in prison for fishing without a license
>>571098014Damn, this is literally 1984.
abyss 5 will have us thrown in prison for illegal mating practices with beastfolk
>>571087886Amelia!Have her as a thief. Sneak attack 3 goes hard.Can always swap her to Fighter if I need more DPS.
>>571100759Lord Guane said it was cool! This must be some sort of misunderstanding! You can't do this to me!
>>571101345Lord Guane will be your bunk mate.
>>571103443He better hope he doesn’t smell like a beastfolk…
>>571077570Not bad for an xp cave. 20k x 10 fights(?) x 2 weeks(?) = 2.8 million, more if you wanted to bring a morgus contract (a waste of time because you cannot stockpile continuous entries like the daybreak cave).Still weaker than the xp doll event I think.
>>571042705Just increasing the amount of average junk drop rates, and tuning the rates on them so it's less of a fucking chore to get decent gear would go a long way.
I hope Guane makes a comeback in the story
>>571107286He'll be our greatest ally during A5 and we'll jailbreak him during the story.Trust the plan.
did anyone check to see how the GWO music changed?
Kill the GWO selling fake beast fucker permits!
The second loop of the fishing quest is a troll. If you use the wheel looking for a part 3, you end up having to spend several hours repeating the second loop again.
I hope we get a grilling minigame next time
>>571117383We need the fish gutting minigame first
Wow I didn't realize that the A3 situation was so bad that they have to give away gems for people to clear it.
Turns out tenchu is pretty hard to play
>>571119586It's funny to me because the lazy players are still not going to spend a day or two farming up some good EVA shoes so that eye sentries don't instagib them, let alone manage anything on the way to the Good endingThat dwarf better be ballin'
Every. single. day.Its the same shit when I try to log it.Yet after I actually log in nothing happens.
they changed barbara's idle animationmaybe shes getting a summer alt this year?
>>571120270that dwarf is gonna carry all the maskettos on his back
>>571125563>they changed barbara's idle animationoh damn they actually did. alt confirmed.
>>571126143It looks a lot better than what she used to have. makes her feel actually imposing
>>570915583So did they add anything else other than a dwarf who will help you if you die X times and that you have to pay? I see they added 3 limited time packs.
Second fishing request within the tavern.I'm not sure if it is available before completing the second loop.
>>571087886
Shlorp shlorp shlorp
>>571130816My beastfolk wives...
>>571130816Now I'm imagining lana accidentally drinking from kagero's tankard.
>>571131204How can humans compete with a tongue as long as that...
>>571131412Humans already lost to the KNOT.
I'm surprised the global version of the game is still alive
>>571133636There's only one version thoughbeit
I'm surprised the english voiceover and translation for the one and only version of the game is still alive
>>571130816would pet him and call him a good boy
to farm Vampires and Cyclops Relicbrew, which is the best farm, just go Gaurda floor 10 and engage the two sentries near the Harken?
5 hours and ive gotten every relic twice without any cyclops sentry relicsAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>571141170Just be lucky and don’t be unlucky.
>>571121181phone or puter?
>Savia used Lunge that taunts>Galbadus base taunt + Guardian blow whit his Gacha Shield that taunt on hit>Despite all this, game went "LOL, LMAO" and the Cyclops just bashed in my Benis.Very Funny Dredcum
>>571152606Out fucking skilled.
Are you telling me that currently there are less than 1250 players in the 4th Abyss? I'm talking about the reward since people who have already beaten Guarda don't need to do it during the event period for them to count.
>>571156879>Are you telling me that currently there are less than 1250 players in the 4th Abyss?Are you retarded by chance?
>>571157001The numbers seems low
>>571157107Yes because they want it to be completed but not look daunting. Devs do this all the time with 'community events' or whatever you want to call them.>game about killing thousands of enemies in a single ~20min game>Community Challenge: collective kill 1 million(!!!) monstersMakes it feel big when in reality that shit gets done in a day through casual play at most.
How do we fix thieves? using them as box openers isn't even worth it anymore since ninja MC can do that now.
>>570414230A thread spawned to talk about bloobers anons.>>>/v/741422823should be good to pass the time
>>571160318They need a damage skill that has good modifiers and caps at Skill Level 1, and maybe something like a passive that auto activates Hiding on battle start.They’ve got several good skills with good modifiers right now, but they’ve got mediocre caps at Skill Level 1, and those can only be leveled by rare inherits.Poison and Delay Attack at 7 are allegedly decent but those require a lot of fodder to inherit.
>>571161861keketrianschizo is in it
Someone please give me the TLDR on the new ninjato, the new guarda, the new capital and the new deepsnow questsDo any of them give anything special? What should I priorititze?
>>571165560uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyo
>>571165560New Guarda quest just unlocks the new passive to buff Ninjato.They’re now a viable option that sacrifices some damage potential for better survivability if you stack EVA.New A4 is fishing.
>>571165126>>571161861whoever is shillng daphne over there, please stop, is beyond embarrasing and reeks of desperation
>>571161861>>571165126whoever is shilling daphne over there, please continue, is beyond funny and brings on confidence
Where do you farm the relic Flower of the Abyss?
>>571169234Are any of them time limited if I am feeling like a lwo (lazy warped one)
>>571172648Nyo.
The fishing minigame is easily the hardest non-whale content in the game. It's going to take months of autist testing to write guides for each fish to make it approachable for casuals.
Ah, so they DID give max rank sigils for some characters. And I didn't even have to bother with Hero league either.
>>571175165>And I didn't even have to bother with Hero league either.u wot
>>571175506Check your sigil levels, they gave it for free at rank 4 for most characters.
>>571175636Mine are all LVL 3
>>571175636But they’re all still Level 3 at max?
>>571175636I'm still at level 2.
>>571175850That's weird, did you beat Elite?
>>571175850>>571176082>>571176101Huh. Didn't you guys get that announcement about the sigil levels today?
>>571176134Yes, but I think I only cleared the first fight of hero league.
>>571176346I see nothing on mobile. Just an announcement of the bugged hook key on steam.
>>571177106I actually can't find it now. Was it actually a bug with my account? It said something like "Due to a bug, the following characters have been given a Hero's Sigil: Dark". I thought they had just fucked up for everyone again.
microbikini fish will save daphne
It has never been more over
>purple gems don't sync between devicesThanks for all most giving me a heart attack Drecom, you fucks.
>>571177516>even bug compensation is Luck BasedLuckletbros…
>>571161861this is a good place to kill some time
Milana sexo.
>>571172568you buy it from the slag exchange
gwos...
>>571199756Don’t you gwos me when you still haven’t even cleared Guarda you cwo.
Got Kagero, what are the best stats for him? I'm assuming speed, but would luck also be good to proc follow up attack more to make normal attacks with ninjato more powerful?Also, how weak is Rinne's skill when inherited? I forgot I got one of her and I don't like her design so I might as well just feed her to one of my characters, I was thinking Kagero because ninjato users don't really have a good line clear skill.
>>571201297Speed or attack bp.MoF inherit goes on Lana or a 900 ATK fighter, feels too weak otherwise. Rinne is still the best MoF user.
>I'm HEaling>The power of HEEEling
>>571207194>Go fly away>Get all Wiggly-Wobbly
>>571156879>Are you telling me that currently there are less than 1250 players in the 4th Abyss?so the other guy told you to reread it alreadywhat bothers me is I did the quest pre-A4 and now I can't contribute to the total
This what happens when you date beastfolk women.https://youtu.be/IGlX23vyrqk?si=Ygxkygt1trontY5V
awooooooooo
Are there any full uploads of the game's OST? I want the winter village theme.
The tension mechanic is really annoying. I have no idea how you are supposed to use it to get the medium salmon.
>>571221187Managed to get a salmon. This should be the second request and bait #6 done.I think you can use the tension mechanic to cheese the earlier hard fish (medium trout and medium redfin).You hold the rod up very slightly during the nibbling, and the rod will bend a lot when the fish bites.
Did JD pour all of his autism into this fishing mini game or something?
>>571224492It's just a warm up for the prison rape minigame
Urgent/Daily is supposed to be your source of the final tier of fish bait.An NPC said that the only large fish that currently exists is the trout (bait is the worm larva). I'm not sure if the dragonfly bait has a use yet.
the fact that gillion got sam is still so funny to me
>>571225036
>>571225027How far along do you have to be to do this urgent?
>>571226659Probably clear the cave of flowers?
>>571225036Finally started using him since the Battlefront released, and I gotta say that I kinda hate that his self damage causes him to interrupt the end of all his voice lines. Dude is blasting ropes just basic attacking a goblin and it's more annoying than gross at this point.
>>571225027are both quests limited? why would bait be locked behind something that is?Would Kagero be able to take the place of the usual heavy hitters of Abe, Shiou and Gillion?
>>571230554>why would bait be locked behind something that is?It isn't the only source of the bait. But it helps because the only enemies on the urgent/daily are bugs and these larva baits have a worse drop rate than the rabbit bait so it helps you resupply.
10 posts away from being bumped off page 10. Did fishing really kill the game for good this time?
all JD needs to do is release waifus every fortnight to keep the community going. too many gays in my harem game
How do hook redfin fuckI keep missing the hook window
>>571249139Maybe try the tension trick, but the old man says it scares away skittish fish.Also, one of his tutorials says the power hook (down then up) instantly ends an encounter if you fail it. I think this means you can hook without releasing the mouse button (for multiple attempts per encounter?) and that earlier tutorial about "flicking up" tricks you into attempting power hooks on everything.I just got the medium redfins through picking a random nibble to hook on and getting lucky.
Some of the other advanced tutorials that really should be in the beginning>Water clarity: In murky water, need smellier baits and more lure dancing. The south lake is always murky?>Line shyness: trying the same location after a successful or failed catch reduces the chance to attract fish>Using the same bait over and over reduces the chance to attract fish. But you generally do not have any choice of bait if you want the current objective's fish.>Biting time: Certain fish are more likely to bite at certain times of day. Does not clarify if this means the real world clock.
>>571250394That explains why the damn fish stopped nibbling entirely when I tension the line... This is way too realistic for a minigame, what were drecom thinking?
>>571245467Fishing didn't kill the game, it failed to resuscitate it. The truth is that for a lot of people the game's been a log-in simulator for months. The game just has really dogshit events and lame banners, so the time in between Abysses/big events/holiday gibs feels extra terrible.>Wow a new sidequest cave that I can finish in one sitting>Oh a variant of a character that looks mid as fuck and has a couple of tweaked skills>Resource dailies for the N'th time, yippee...I can't stress enough how low effort running this game is: Purple Cocoon cave looks just like every other fucking cave. In fact, recently they've start saving on even that miniscule amount of """effort""" by just straight up reusing old caves a la the quests in the ninja cave and the flower cave. Drecom doesn't deserve success, and it is my sincere wish that they go bankrupt. The only saving grace they have is that this is a niche as fuck genre with literally zero competition. And that the Japanese are subhumans that will just accept low quality trash without complaint.
How rare, I got the edgy dog from my single free bone pull. He's got a DEX boon.Should I go all in on STR and SPD as usual? Is he worth pulling more disciplines of? I already have Yuzu with Citrus as ninja
>>571228957YOU CAN CHOKE ON - AHH!
>>571253798They really should just re-run old castle every once and a while with a new layout and new bosses in every content drought.
>>571255414Zamn and now this from a cheeky 10 purple value pack. The game really wants me to use the stinky dog, fine
>>571245467Where can you fish in the game?
We need Hard and Variants mode of existing abyss. Variants are extra hard plus party formation restrictions. Reward would be GWO 100% drop relic brews that give powerful skills/traits.
>>571256409I keep reading that as Neckraper
>>571256070A reoccuring weekly/bi-weekly mode would help a little bit. There's a reason like 90% of gachas have some roguelike mode or something. But it's just a bandaid over an open wound, since unless they put in the effort to keep it fresh, it'll just become another chore like bounties. We just need events to be more frequent and not be dry as hell. You don't even need voice acting, just have a somewhat interesting story for whatever god forsaken hole in the ground they want us to play around in for two to three weeks. Remember tripping that one kid during the Cave of Flowers quest? Fun times.
Oh boy, I sure do hope I don't get knotted...
If they are autistic enough to make a fishing sim, I see no reason for them not to go all in on dating elements. Unlock animations, dialogues, and sexy cg art as the friendship levels raisez and offer gifts as prizes to win in events like arena and old castle.
>>571261507Well... Shit.
>>571261680>not 'happy breeder'
Did anyone else randomly get their arena sigils upgraded to level 4?
>>571176346...huh.
>>571264058> Seraphinewait.. who dat?
>>571264284A Human-pri...
>>571261680bare fucking minimun can we please get a real hot spring and not a rock in the fucking ground
>>571266207Anemone a cute
>>571267112Is there any site or yt channel that has all their voicelines? I thought I heard it all but then in a dungeon she was either complaining to me or arguing with another party member, it was hard to hear since both of them were talking at the same time but she said something about not bullying her because she's so small, something like that, never heard it before or since..And benis talked about cutting her bangs
We really, REALLY need a new cave to farm. The healer one has the worst loot in the game for some reason.
these devs really were on some good kush when they decided to make this retarded ass relic system
New abyss when? after getting all Guiding Lights I feel empty. I NEED CONTENT!
>>571270335Gwo most people haven't even cleared A3, apparently
>>571270596A4 is fucking harder then A3. are we just going to be stuck here in limbo?
>>571268408Not to my knowledge.
>>571270050i've never went targetfarming for relics before, but if I knew it would take 8 slag in a row for an a3 cyclops sentry(still havent gotten it btw), I definitely wouldve lambasted their asses in the survey
>>571271498No, cause we're going to EoS!
>>571272052There's no way we can EoS before BTDE! I won't allow it!
>>571272052Game makes plenty and is Drecom’s most successful thing, we’re not going to EoS any time soon.
>>571272834>you gonna love itNever trust a BTDE with bad grammar.
>>571273775She's black, please understand.
The moment we get a Persona 5 collab, it's when we have reached EOS.
>>571273280Wrong, we'll EoS because Lana is going to jail.
Nyo... What about Garbage and the 3rd door?
at this point we have more content than most bloobers, and we can play these forever, I have no issues waiting even another year for nyontent, there is plenty to do atm. I haven't even done 10% of all quests atm even
Saw on twitter that there is a new true end (or earlier) quest.
So for ninjers and samurai now you do the 2nd sand shadow request and then farm there for junk and tokens?
>>571271498I feel a4 was a lot smoother sailing than abyss 3, if you have what it takes to complete abyss 3, abyss 4 isn't a huge powerspike due to all the famrimg options you get and if it is, you have more tools than before like malific windz malkalki, and ess, newbies have it even easier with the healer class.
>>571281092Yeah, Wolf felt like the only bullshit fight.Pedoman was more about tweaking your comp to have some AoE damage.
Oops. I should have cleared the blizzard and brought a proper boss clearing party for this quest.
Nevermind, they are weak.
>>571281476Skelly, can you trigger in a single attack both Follow up attack and Second Arrow with ranger Yuzu?
>>571282739I don't remember but it will definitely re-trigger foxfire which is good enough for me.
>>571266207benis
>>571281476Benis back row?
>>571248037they released a homo dog cause we are getting sexo swimsuits next
>>571287050he said it wasn't his proper boss killing crewI'm assuming he wanted to fit ainikki on the team, and have her bonk stuff
GUESS I'VE GOTTA SHOW MY
Does Lulunarde's 17 year old butthole have blonde anal hair?
Even A3 True End.Odd A4 Good End.
>>571301318I have made a terrible mistake.
>>571301724too late to back out,I expect to see a completion post by the end of the day.go get em tiger
>>571301318>>571301724It's easy peasy at lv70 with decent gear, I was just doing it last night with a new team for fun to see how strong they were and they curbstomped it
Roaming bounties are the bane of my existence FUCKING HELL WHERE ARE YOU
>>571281476>>571281649Nevermind x2, these fights are a bit of a slog. The first part was 8 fights (3 double wolves) then 6 more fights (3 double bigfoot) and you can fountain in between. Now this next batch has a cyclops.And this is part one of three of the quest. The other two parts are just dialogue but I would be pissed if I end up missing the bondmate after all that.
>>571306048*2 cyclops
I regret attempting this without SP potions. You can survive the first two parts without them, but two cyclops (and 3 other encounters) with a 5k hp minion frontline protecting them takes too many resources.
>>571304981It’s more the tedium of looking it up and actually doing it and making some bows.
>kill all the monsters>recruit the kind woman>elect the kind mayor that Nero likes>no Nero bondmate or info about the large troutI'm warping now.
>Go against all of Nero's advice to get his bondmateWow, it is so fun to play this game without following guides.
I finally killed the Yeti. Abenius and Livana spamming ESS was the trick.And now I need to repeat that fight two more times with each faction.
>>571310636You actually never have to do that version of the fight again. Once you get the first reversal power, you fight a much easier version.
>>571311572Thanks god.
A REMINDER:ABYSS 5 WILL BE IN 2027
>>571314142What about my Bibi Summer alt?
Is guarda martial training dispatch still the best one for EXP?
>>571315092Bibi elf cosplay Christmas alt in 2027
>>571315496Yes.
Summer Amelia?
Summer Gerulf. It's just him wearing Summer Yeka's outfit because Drecom is lazy like that.
Where to find demonbane weapons? I am in A4
>>571321169Separation Cave
>>571299632I don't know but I would love to tonguefuck Lulu's asshole. not because of any weird sexual fetish or anything but because i think her reaction would be really cute
>haha I'm not tonguing ghost shitters because I'm a degenerate>I would just do it as a prank bro, wouldn't it be hilarious, hahaWarped.
How is Yamero skill inherited and who would want it?
>>571324474we are the same you and i
>>571324548Nobody wants YAMEROOOOO!! Name explains it all, really.
When are we going to get the next legendary job changes? I wonder what job change Kagero will get, fighter seems like it would be the best for him but I feel like they'll probably give him thief.
>>571325354Feels like the months alternate between different styles and reruns/class changes. Kagero's class change will still be a while away since there's still Ysra, Linaria, and Anemone in front of him in the queue. Wait did they actually rerun Erwin without a class change or did I just forget it?
>>571326083Unfortunately for Erwin, Detective Conan isn't a class so they could've give him a class change.
You eat ghost ass sexually.I eat ghost ass for the comedy.We are not the same.
>>571326728Actually, he just failed his ninja exam because he wasn't evil alignment. Surely he'll learn to kill an elf-pri in July.
>>571326728Damn even Aldric got a class change on his rerun, even though I had to look it up. Even amongst manlets, there is discrimination.
I'm missing a cum guardian sentry, aaaaaaaiiiiiiieeeeeee.
Is the cocoon event worth doing?
>>571331568It is once you get past the second fishing quest. Both bugs need to be farmed for bait once you are trying to catch the big trout and the cocoon cave bugs are easier to find than re-entering sand shadow over and over.
This could have been neckraper.FAS or just alter last line?
>We added a dwarf companion to help you clear Guarda>It costs gemsfuck yoouuuuuu why bother.Swimsuits when?
>Have to hold onto ballsack to beat garda>Have to pay to hold onto ballsackkek those poor shitters
>>571302134One more step towards no longer being a lazy warped one.
>new trap detect bondmate>but you have to do the whole a4 sidequest chainNo thanks.
>>571338113It apparently gives a whopping +46 Detect.https://x.com/taMa_mi0124/status/2068325132586860916
>>571338667what the fuck
>>571338667I still refuse to do it until they patch it to only needing the devotional stone in your inventory to unlock the quest.Or at least letting you just do the arena 11 times back to back after the quest chain once.
>>571338667Not worth it
So are they skipping summer outfits this year? I thought it was supposed to be june
>>571339183It was august last year.
>>571339183They released in mid august last year.
>>571337912I always knew you could do it
I'm rooting for you in the next thread>>571339868>>571339868>>571339868
What are the easiest non-daily request? Haven't been keeping up with the game for over a month just barely doing the weeklies/dailies with dispatches every time I remember.
>>571339968death stenchmissing companionsalmost any A1 requeststeel grade up exam
