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Jpfags be like>>570430156
>>570430897Sonia's massive mammaries
>4 mystery slots for extra DLC in CrossworldsAny predictions?
>>570431064Colossal
>>570430897Better, more Sonic appropriate, thread theme:https://youtu.be/cGNDpOkk73k
Sonic characters for this feel?
Tails!
What exactly is stopping Eggman from just making multiple Metal Sonics and winning? If you had multiple Metal Sonics copying everyone's data, then it's already over. His ability means he's the most broken character in the universe. How do you top that? Whoever designed Metal didn't use their brain.
Finally added everyone (besides Bill), looks good i think, your thoughts?
>>570431287Thats a good drawing anon. Are you planning on coloring it?
>>570430968Amy’s love for Sonic has always been what gives her motivation to become a better character so to tone down Amy’s love so much to the point where it feels like a tertiary character trait is to corrupt her character. The English media does this but not the Japanese media. It’s not fair
>>570431392Yes, first i have to line it (the worst part)
>>570431287i don't know who these people are except eggman
Nakednic
>>570431414>but not the Japanese media
>>570431438Archie characters
Not Maria at allMale Maria 1Micro-MariaMale Maria 2
>>570431567*two originate from the games
>>570431502This fur texture on Darkspine Sonic's feet (and hands) is kinda weird. Makes it seem like a symbiote suit.
>>570431253Sonic would beat them all because he's Sonic.>But-All powerful scales up or down relative to Sonic. He will win because he must.
>>570431253>Copy abilityMeans jackshit against plot armorJust look at the "Phi" dudes from Sonic Battle>Multiple Metal SonicsChoose your favorite poison>CD fan theory of him using weird future tech>He's just way too expensive to mass produce>Eggman fears him after the Heroes incident, or whatever>Orgone theory it's real, and Metal needed someone's soul>Theory 1 + Theory 4 = Retarded burger fanon about Metal being a roboticized Sanic from a bad future
>>570431591Chris ultra mogs everyone here. Yuuta might be able to swing a sword but he's not a billionaire. Hope failed to talk Shadow out of violence while Chris succeeded on his first try. Sara fucks animals.
>I heard you got your paws on a Red Star Ring.Paws? Knuckles, what are you talking about?
>>570431747It's retarded. Making robots already on the level of Sonic the Hedgehog means it's inevitable that he'll be surpassed.
>>570431763>Chris succeeded on his first trywhy do people pretend sonic x is good again
>>570431549Her love for Sonic was still present in the Japanese version of Frontiers and Crossworlds. At this point, it's Sonic Team's for not preventing Ian Flynn from removing Amy's love for Sonic. They've had chance after chance but they don't do it
>>570431094Billy HatcherRolly RollChick PoacherBantam Scrambled
>>570431796SCANA...
>>570431938Isn't Ian literally the only person at SOA actively removing Amy's crush? Daniel Barnes wrote IDW with a crush on Sonic and so did Evan, Ian is the one who keeps getting rid of it because he can't let go of Archie.
>>570431804Sonic becomes stronger by doing LITERALLY nothing
>>570431127Boobs too small. Sonia is a classic character who's boobs are already huge, if she was a modern character she would have insane big boobs.
>>570431763Sara is HALF animal
>>570431763>>570431913Shadow punched him hard enough to make him cry like a little bitch, and the only reason he decided not to kill him and to the right thang was because the tears reminded him of that time he saw a girl bleeding to death after being shot
>>570432163That just mean's she's a genetic freak. She doesn't even look like an animal.
>>570432014Yes, Ian is the only one doing it but he's not an employee for SOA. He's a freelance writer and so are the IDW comics' writers. No other person removes Amy's crush. It's only Ian and Sonic Team bears the guilt for not preventing it even though they're fully capable
>>570432425so iizuka doesn't care about the crush
>>570432347>she's a genetic freakAND SHE'S NOT NORMAL
>>570432482Why would he care about the crush? It has nothing to do with Shadow.
>>570432506Chris is Normal, Sara is a fraek
Douge
>>570432793Butt grope. If I were shado I would grope rouge ass all the time and her boobs too if I have girlfriend like rouge I would also grooe her boobs and ass all the time. I love groping so much anybody relate?
>>570432793My Headcanon Rouge is the only girl Shadow is ok with touching
>>570432482Until Iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda begin to show that they care about saving Amy's love for Sonic, I'm going to consider them guilty. I've already sent SOJ a complaint that Amy's love for Sonic is being removed in the English media like in Frontiers and that 35th anniversary book and I told SOJ that many people have spoken out against this on social media because it's a corruption of Amy's character. If you haven't sent a complaint to SOJ yet, then I strongly recommend you do it since it will put pressure on SOJ to step in and tell Sonic Team to do something about it
>>570433062Iizuka was the supervisor for Sonic Prime, Amy's crush only comes up once in the entire show and Sonic makes her angry that she never gets over it even in the last episode.
>>570432793Cute and canon!
>>570432793I am so tired of Shadriafaggotry
>>570432506But does Sara have a 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice?
Sara and Chris both stole Amy's moments so fuck them
>Amy: That's Sonic and the Tornado! What?Something must have happened!>Amy: Let us help out, too!Don't worry though, this is Classic Amy.
>>570433128I used to think that Sonic Team was just not noticing Ian remove Amy's love for Sonic since they were busy with other works but now I'm beginning to strongly suspect that Iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda know that Ian Flynn is corrupting Amy in the English dubs but that they just don't care. Sonic Team's behavior disgusts me. Every time Amy's love gets removed and the fans get angry at it, all SOA does it release merch and game updates as damage control but Sonic Team doesn't step in to stop what's happening to Amy for good. The cycle just keeps repeating and nothing changes.I think the only time where Amy shows love for Sonic in Prime was Thorn Rose and that's not even the real Amy, it's just a shatterverse variant.
>>570433453Amy has no moments, she's a joke character
>>570433596Fuck off unironically.
Sonic
>>570433619Buddy, I'm just telling the truth
>>570433685You're probably an Archie faggot
Your blue rat trying to save the looney toons from 30 billions of debt.
Are you going somewhere this spoiler?
>>570433756This is genuinely going to be a disaster for the entertainment industry and moreover Sonic's identity
>>570433756Why does Paramount wants to buy Warner so badly?
Amy has never even held Sonic's hand. She will never kiss him. The best she can do is hugging without consent
Archie fags don't understand any Sonic characters
Sonic fags don't understand any Archie characters (except Jughead, because they are all Jughead)
>>570434016it happens is that the game versions are too empty and shallow, so archie is subconsciously used to fill the gaps
>>570434016They understood Amy well enough because she never got with Sonic even in the comics lol
>>570433903(((Larry and David Ellison))) are miserly, obscenely rich oligarchs from the Epstein class and want to use the media as a vessel for pro-Israel propaganda and donate the money the Israeli Diaper Forces so they can keep displacing and killing people in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Iran
Silver
>>570434016Sticking to the characterizations from the games is a mindfuck for Archie fans
Archie Amy was my first interaction with cuckoldry in media
>>570434159 (me)*money to the
Shadow
I think Archie fans are more likely to understand the characters than IDW fans>But Sonic is making out with women>but Knuckles everything>but shadow is a gun agent>but archiever>But Archie jetAll correct, all of these are OOC as fuck and an Archiefag has the full ability to spell out why these are different from the personalities from the video games. IDW fans don't have this ability.
>>570434159I honestly think Israel is doing an awful job at marketing, they can make Sonic I love Israel in the movies but it won't convince anybody
Amy
>>570414498>>570414838https://files.catbox.moe/8c7xhx.jpg
Yes, game characters are in fact shallow and i hold no shame in that opinion
>>570434347Archiefags and IDW fags are equally bad and both refuse to accept that the characters from the games never acted like that
>>570434171Not beating the Amy allegations
Metal
>>570434347Correct because IDW is always IC and only Archiefags in bad faith complain about being OC, because they want IDW to be Archie
IDWfag here. I don't like the game characters much in IDW. I understand they are supposed to be static mascot archetype characters but they feel like Pocket Monsters compared to the IDW characters. Tangle and Whisper are going on emotional arcs while Sonic and Shadow just say catchphrases and do all the action. It isn't fun. I don't know what your excuse for this is but you can read IDW and feel when a game character is around because they will have a stupid toy merchandise personality. Sonic treats the biggest tragedy of her life like an inconvenience.
Hey, /sthg/, let's play charades! I'll start!"I'M SUCH A RETARDED FAGGOT WHO SAMEFAGS EVERYDAY AND HAS NO LIFE!"Who am I?
Archiefags: This character is shallow because he isn't trying to fuck. I need to self insert.
>>570434357Larry and David Ellison are the biggest private donors to the IDF and they're supporters of mass surveillance through AI. How does it feel to know that the movie franchise that saved the Sonic franchise, which appeals primarily to children, from irrelevancy and death, is owned by sociopathic oligarchs who send money to bloodthirsty savages with military equipment whose attacks on civilians kill men, women and children and leave the survivors with missing limbs or blindness? Doesn't feel good at all
>>570434386cuuuuuteyou got any more maria art?
>cute>"""cute"""
>>570433756This means an adaptation of Sonic x DC could literally be funded just from Sega and Paramount agreeing.
>>570434846Thanks to you we got harassed by fopfags for two weeks
>>570433920She will get to live her dream in 2027
>>570434886filter their retarded shit out. it's just text on your screen
If every Archiefag died I would be fine. They hate the characters that I love. They can all disappear and the world would be a better place. IDW would be readable.
It's time to bring Cosmo to IDW.
>>570434159I hate the antichrist
>>570434846yes niggamaria is cute even getting fucked
So this is the /sthg/ AI training event
>>570434482
I don't understand why reboot Sonic took on his game personality when he was outside of the universe when it rebooted
>>570434745I don't draw human scale very often. I've been using the drawthread to get back into it.
>>570434549Krack
>>570434524Metal sadness is the standard now huh
>>570434713I don't feel bad about Gaza at all if that's what you mean. They started it
>>570435285who is she and why are people always talking about her here
Jazz Jackrabbit is like the wind and he is short tempered and impatient. he yells "Hey! hey c'mon! whats up!" if you wait too long
>>570433883You know, I'm pretty sure the amount of media companies Larry and David Ellison own breaks U.S antitrust laws but since the government is occupied by Israel, those laws aren't going to get enforced>>570435083>We stand with the children who deserve to be childrenDo you stand with unborn babies in the womb or do you support a woman being able to let a "doctor" chop it up alive in the womb because she doesn't want it?>Hamas are terroristsResistance to occupation is not terrorismThe user who posted that tweet is super likely one of those radically progressive woke idiots but the only thing he/she is right on is hating Israel
>>570435329He just going through a lot rn i hate that he feels this way
>>570435350Shalom Avi. How's the weather in Tel Aviv? How much is Unit 8200 paying you?
>>570435119This was a real tweet.https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1900162661133787298Blame the mobile slop.
Palestine are the good guys because they are brown.
>>570435496
Hamas are the freedom fightersisrael diaper force is robotnik
>>570435504>Can you please please care about the shitskin terrorists? I will call you a Jew if you don't Lmao
The truth is that everything wrong with sthg is my fault. It isn't your fault or anyone else's.
>>570435648
>>570435664That's not true anon you shouldn't have to shoulder sthg fuck ass behavior alone
>>570435763you may find more new on "shit that never happened" over there>>>/pol/
>>570435780https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE56g61mW44
Don't worry, Silver and his extended cast can fight off the pol menace.
>>570435728Palestinians are not ethnic Arabs, they're descended from Levantine populations who have living there for generations and it's very easy to find light-skinned Palestinians too>>570435763Go back to watching Fox News
>>570435943>>>/pol/Isis are cia falseflaggots btw
>>570435965Sad how nearly all the future characters are from fleetway or Archie
>>>/pol/
>>570435890Yeah bro Muslims never conquered Spain. They never displaced Christains in Lebanon or Syria or every other country the infest. They never ochestrated the Bataclan theater attacks in France. Or the mass rapings in Nice. Or the countless stabbings.>/pol/oh so now it's /pol/ to defend your precious sandniggers huh?fuck you
>>570435965Isn't Silver from a future where everyone died or am I remembering it wrong?
>>570435967Pick up a history book retard. It is a fact that Islam is an imperialist religion that subjugates other religions of countries it invades. You are giving them a pass to invade and colonize because they are brown.
>>570436237There are people in his future and we simply didn't see them in 06. He mentions them. He's also supposed to be wearing tech from his time
>>570436031That's the problem. ESP Silver aka Sonic06 Silver doesn't have anything cause he was never expanded on. It doesn't help that his game is filed under the "We don't talk about that one" tab alongside Rise of Lyric and Oshima's pedo tweets.
>>570436145>Yeah bro Muslims never conquered Spain.they didn't "kick the populations out" nigger, they played chess with them. meanwhile your jewish friends actively prosecute palestinian christian, steal their property and spit on them in the streets. you cuck. you are siding with your enemies. and that's right, cuck. take your retardation back to pol>>>/pol/
>>570436275It's a shame this never got explored. You can easily make a story out of this and use it for a game. Silver is such an underrated character
It sounds like you suck at chess.
>>570436291>>570436031If Sega didn't let IDW expand Silver's future it is because they want to do it themselves. We just have to wait for the movie >Naoto Oshima is too focused gooning to Sonic character to care about the franchiseHonestly I can relate
>>570436641>>570436001
leftist retards literally think brown people are incapable of evil
>570436641>parisshalom
>>570436291He seems to like Sonails
>>570435396Jazz Jackrabbit is best known for the canon porn.https://litter.catbox.moe/jd01uzhuntnguhq0.jpg
>>570436729>leftist retards whine about Israel>only a problem when it targets brown peopleI'm noticing!
>>570436805He likes Tails.
>>570436965>noooooo don't harass the pedophillic middle aged japanese man stooooop i am going to repooooort
>>570437015Why would Ian Flynn do this?
Shun Nakamura needs to direct and design a game that explores Silver's future, his friends, and his allies from that time and period and with Silver as the protagonist. It's the golden opportunity to explore what hasn't been explored yet by Sonic Team
>>570436965>Tails blushing in a dressThe sissification of Tails goes a long way. I don't think it can be stopped
>>570433312What the fuck does that have to do with Shadouge
>>570437103>It's the golden opportunityBut I thought it was Silver
Silver should instead come from a bleak future where Iblis, Chaos, and adult Sage are gangbanging the planet.
>>570434386This is based as fuck and hot btw just wanted to let you know. This happened in canon. Source: I said so
>>570437289What about Gaia?
>>570437015French Revolution parte deux?
>>570437103I don't trust Sega. They are going to make his future go back to "normal" every time Sonic defeats the big baddie. All the drama and stakes about being in a uncertain future with characters that are going to disappear forever is gonne
>>570437412You don't like it when sonic saves the day and says something cool while do anime pose?
>>570435780I need more Sonic boys in bunny suits...female gaze franchise...
>>570436259>>570436413>>570436641Who is Ahmad al-Sharaa, the president of Syria? He's a Salafi jihadist who took power after the fall of Bashar al-Assad's government in 2024. Ahmad al-Sharaa is a head chopper who persecutes Christians, Alawites, and Shia Muslims in Syria and Donald Trump really likes him and so does Benjamin Netanyahu.Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the Popular Mobilization Forces are not Salafi jihadists and they oppose violence against Christians. They're not sectarians
>>570437390More like World War Revolution followed by World War Reconquista. Brown people don't belong in European countries.
>>570435930Kek
You know, Oshima would approve.
>>570434482i wonder what would silver amy rouge, tails,maria,marine,kit, sonic,shadow,blaze,surge, eggman,nega,doom,starline would do in a team.
>>570437220I did say it was Silver>>570437412It needs to be Silver who defeats the bad guy. It's his game. What if he takes his friends and allies from the future into the present so he doesn't lose them after victory?
>>570436291
>>570437718It's good to see Amy being in-character for once.
Mania is Japkino.
Im going to abstract
>>570436805>>570436965Guess what else he likes that I never posted anywhere
>>570437007Terminally online coomers use the words "moralfag" and "puritan" in the same way woke activists use the words "homophobe, transphobe, sexist, misogynist, and bigot".
Sonic?
>>570437934True but the terminally online coomers didn't ruin the world.
>>570437934Or maybe we just shouldn't be harassing the dude for liking fanart? Especially when IDW artists get away with drawing porn of Tails fucking his own mother.
>>570437776You go and fulfill your patriotic duty by dying for Israel if you want to so much. You're mocking Iran, a country with a 5000-year-old civilization, with orientalist stereotypes propped up by Hollywood war propaganda movies where 'Murica is always the winner, always the good guy, and always the liberator. Iranians have verified high IQs and excel in STEM. Go drink another beer, Pete Kegsbreath.
>>570438182I'm fully aware of what the IDW artists have done and they shouldn't be working on the IDW comics if that's what they're doing. It's scandalous. Sonic Team didn't even bother to do background checks on them
jap bros... the japs like westo shitto...
>>570437889Not on my watch
>>570438431>>570438182There's a huge wealth of difference between liking suggestive art and celebrating murder. We laugh at Oshima cause he's a stereotypical dirty old Japanese man. The shit with Gigi on the other hand....
>>570438485Sonic can't save someone who doesn't want it he can try tho
Only 10 days are left until June 23, which is when there's supposed to be a Sonic Central. I'm going to be so disappointed if they don't reveal details about the next mainline game and what's in store for 2027
>>570438332The desert sand will soak up the blood of your people like a sponge. The new generation of the military are gonna cut our teeth on your cousins and then we're going to Reconquista our countries. And God we will genocide you in your own shitholes. Mass child rapists get mass unmarked graves.
>>570438713>At least you get a "central"....
>>570438713Sonic Chronicles 2: The tits of justice
>>570438693>The Deadly Six>Metal >Surge >KitSonic not giving up on them...right
>>570438431Right, so I personally don't want to watch IDWfags cancel the man who designed Sonic for liking suggestive fanart when their dumb comic sells less than 10k while hiring people who draw futa loli incest rape. You'll notice they never say anything about the latter.
>>570438604I genuinely don't know how she still has a job after all she's done. How has Sega not fired her yet?
>>570437103This. Vve vvant Svlver
>>570438810Sonic is over Metal Sonic bullshit that's for sure
>>570438838She works for sega? I thought she only worked for idw
>>570438838IDW can't find anyone else. They can't get talent so they're stuck with the dregs.
why can't you just appreciate Silver for tanabata takarazuka blue skies blaze sun huh?
>>570438815I hate IDW because it's pozzed and uneventful and I know what the IDW artists have done. I'm disturbed by it and these are not the people you want working on a comic that appeals primarily to children>>570438885She only works for IDW. My bad. But she's still making art for Sega-authorized comics so I don't know why Sega hasn't done anything
When is idw going to explore Surge's past
>the desert will soak up the bloodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TI10ciEKX0
>>570438775No point in one if it's just SOA shilling their own stuff.>>570438874Silver has been neglected for 20 years. Sad.
I kind of like this concept. The red parts of his air shoes could slightly detach in Prime, they aren't fully connected.>>570438838>>570438989They're too focused on removing the problematic chuds who don't like child mutilation from their fan events to deal with the IDW staff telling children to read tranny porn books about period pads becoming all crusty from not changing them.
>>570439024Never
Even the biggest idw fans didn't like Evan's attempt at writing a queer child abuse story
>>570439212idw is estrogen book
>>570439123Krack you should follow and repost actual rightwing accounts on Twitter to radicalize people into electing far right candidates to enact antitrans legislation instead of splashing around in the antiwoke kiddy pool.
>>570439123I like that the movies and Prime make Shadow fly with his shoe
>>570435396truth>>570436848WHEW
>>570438717I'm not Iranian nor Arab. Plus, Iran means '[land of] the Aryans and you can find some blue-eyed, light-skinned Iranians. I' sorry neoconservative, jingoistic propaganda has poisoned your mind. There are plenty of child rapists in America. They're in the Epstein files and they're just as bad as the progressive lunatics who advocate for trooning out children - 2 sides of the same coin
>>570438989sega doesn't care. just like with amy's character. and idw is an israeli operation ran by their jewish ceo they are all into that crap
Yes Sonic will support [my religion]
Reminder that Sega cared enough to start mandating Bean's personality but not Amy and Silver
>>570439370Shadow could fly with them in Sonic Adventure 2. It happened when Eggman awakened him.
>>570439123Unemployment is a bitch huh
>>570439501Bark too. But that was likely the AM2 division of Sega, since its specifically their characters.
>>570439123Sonic Team and Sega collaborating with IDW was a massive mistake. All of IDW is woke. Doesn't matter that there are good artists working for it. Better to transfer writing and drawing of the comics to a company that doesn't have that corporate culture. I say Sky bound>>570439405If Sega doesn't care about Amy's character, then they're going to learn that the hard way in 2027. I already contacted them and told them that what's happening to Amy is discouraging me from buying future Sonic games.
>>570439501they figured that her old one doesn't work so she became a free for all in hopes that someone jackpots. same thing with Silver, they don't know what to do with him so he, too, is a free for all
>>570439212Because it doesn't appeal to any major troon faction. Lunar is a bland desexualized blob, so no troon groups care. If the goal was catching the interest of troons, Lunar should've been obviously feminine or masculine. Most trooning traces back to erotic target identity inversion, so you need an erotic element they can latch onto. Poison and Bridget are popular for that reason. Trannies only want hot trannies as representation even though 99% of them are eyesores.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19308843/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_target_location_error>>570439313I repost what I agree with. If the goal is far-right radicalization within the Sonic fanbase, you first need to achieve basic acceptance of centrist positions.
>>570439602they can do fine with your 20 buck (i know you only buy on discounts like the rest)
>>570439501>Sega caredBecause AM2 controls Bean, Bark, and Honey. They don't want THEIR characters being out of character.Beside, imagine how angry Bin would be if you misrepresented his son? Dude would go on one hell of a rampage.
my child was just born /sthg/
>>570439370I like it too. They're supposed to allow him to hover, it isn't used nearly enough. When will Sega address the shoe lift question?
>>570439773congrats, Shadow and Amy
>>570439773Unbirth it
>>570435965nega technically is from future now.
>>570439810Because he'll make Tails redundant and Knuckles even more redundant by flying/hovering on top of being a match for Sonic and having all these chaos abilities. Too OP
>>570439612This is depressing. Keep putting pressure on Sega. It's the only thing the fans can do>>570439736I didn't buy Frontiers, Shadow Generations, or Crossworlds, and I won't buy the next mainline game or the 2027 tie-in game if the English and Japanese dialogue are so different to the point where the characters' personalities are different and I know that Ian Flynn loves to target Amy
>>570439880After Silver stole him from Blaze, yeah.
>>570439935He's already too OP. Sonic is too OP as well given the fact that he's basically as strong as Knuckles and can fly as of Forces.
>>570434482the heroes ''there's no way out of marriage'' scene but with silver and rouge next to amy. with team f sonic shadow blaze.
>>570439935What? No. They fill completely different roles. That's like saying Rouge makes Tails irrelevant. Or Blaze makes Tails irrelevant, she can hover too. Dumb.
>>570439880Much like with ESP Silver, they gotta get their shit together with Eggman Nega.
>>570439773This can only be marinechad, clearly the only anon who fucks, I'm sure of it. That or a tourist.
Fowler-dow makes everyone irrelevant
>>570439773go over there
>>570440002this is sorta why silver can't really be the bitch, when they are teamed up the narrative is mostly about silver, the bitches are there to add flavor to the narrative not take over it and make it about themselves. though i kinda could tell already they wanted a gender reversal thing with silvaze even if blaze is still on the side.
Hello. My name is Miles Merrick. I'm pleased to meetchu.
>>570440085Shadow can straight up fly though going by his first cutscene.
>>570438693Movie Sonic is definitely a Jax hater especially after the final kek
The fandom needs to get over Silvaze desu. If the criticism after '06 didn't get them separated, nothing will. It's just a part of the characters. They should find ways to keep both Blaze's Sol Dimension lore and Silver's future lore relevant without killing the Tanabata thing they have going on.
>>570440401I want to get over Blaze so I can impregnate her
>>570440369Movienic defending Ragatha on his tiktok Although i don't think he would be the type of person who struggles with media literacy
>>570440401desu even in the days of 06 silvaze was still liked more than sonelise, and although silver himself was controversial non shipfags were focused mre on criticizing a lot of other crap than the silver blaze situation. i might be wrong about this but mass criticism from sonazefags seems to be a more recent discourse.
>>570440558Movie Sonic watching grifters and snarks shit takes on the Superman movie
>>570440490After marriage, right?...Right???
>>570440401It's not part of the characters. It's only part of Silver. You can just ignore Silver as a Blaze fan.The only important bits of Blaze's lore is wrapped up with Sonic and the Chaos Emeralds.Silver has no lore outside of Silvaze.
>>570440401>the criticism after '06 didn't get them separated, nothing will.There is not really much content between besides standing together and flavor text written about them. Blaze is the one suffering because she was a popular character with huge potential and had her own setting and got that all destroyed by some Trunks ripoff who doesn't even have a setting anymore besides vague statements.
>>570440732>Silver has no lore outside of Silvaze.This is why it's so important to actually develop it in a future game and I really do hope Shun Nakamura gets to work on it because Silver is his character>>570440738If Silver is a Trunks ripoff, then Sonic and Shadow are a ripoff of Goku and Vegetal respectively
They wrote Silver into a corner on his debut.
>>570440669Tails and Knuckles listening to Sonic ramble qbout why "insert anime character" isn't a fraud
>>570440869 (me)*Vegeta. Stupid autocorrect
>>570440869Silver is a more shallow inspiration than Sonic and Shadow.
>>570440906How so?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!##$??!!!!!!#!!%!
>>570440869Silver has basically two options:>continue his current direction by redressing Iblis in Blaze, damming them to repeat 06 forever>completely throw out everything and establish a new directionThey're gonna go for the first one and it's gonna be ass.
>>570440732 >>570440738 Right, I agree Blaze could stand on her own. In the DS era. Handhelds are irrelevant compared to mobileslop now. The thing is Blaze debuted in 2005, and she was paired with Silver in 2006. That's literally 1 year of being her own character, and 20 years of being Silver's friendsistergirlfriend. If you remove the Silvaze from Blaze, you're removing ninety-five percent of the character's existence. It's not really reasonable, and this is coming from someone whose first modern game was Rush.
>>570440975Silver just needed to have his bad future explored properly but it never happened>>570441075Sonic Team just needs to find a way to make Silver interact more with Sonic, Shadow, and other characters instead of Blaze
>>570441075You forget, they have a get out of canon free card. This is also how they got rid of Eggman Nigga.
>Tails having a breakdown after learning the truth of his mutationWhat is this horrible truth, /Sthg/?
>>570441092>remove the Silvaze from Blaze, you're removing ninety-five percent of the character's existence.You really wouldn't because it was never the focus of a game besides 06 and she already had two games about her lore with no Silver in sight. Removing Silver would literally do nothing. Silver would be fucked because as far as we know he has no friends, allies, rivals, or any character from his future besides the awkwardly shoved in Eggman Nega who hasn't been relevant to Silver in years.
>>570441075Iblis isn't in Blaze. It's an idea that Maekawa had that never carried over.
>>570440978So the lore and status quo is basically>the time they spent in the Iblis future was special>Silver and Blaze don't remember each other>Iblis is sealed in BlazeAll the characters can do is allude to 06. If they want to use Iblis or those memories, they have to reset the status quo at the end. They are basically fored to have the story structure be:>reunion>unseal Iblis from Blaze>restore their memories> [the actual story]>delete their memories>reseal Iblis in Blaze>tearful departure (sacrifice)There isn't actually anything else you can do.
>>570441453>Iblis isn't in BlazeIdk I think it is. There's some hints.He's obviously going to come back. Like do you really think you've seen the last of him? He's still on Silver's character bio.
>>570441487Silver's debut will always be a failure because his story was just in-universe collateral damage from the narrative, not the main story. For a proper debut, his future should've been the main story, not Soleanna and its drama.
>>570441380It was the result of radioactive poisoning that affected his mother, who he never got know
>>570441658No, he isn't. That plot-line was dropped and never made it in future games.
Can we stop talking about Silver Jesus christ
>>570441380His father swam in Chemical Plant Zone enough where the water affected his balls oh and his mother was Bubbler.
>>570441781His fans still cope that he'll be important any day now and get his own game, so they'll keep bringing him up.
You can actually delete most of the canon and the characters would be fine. There's actually only a handful of meaningfully canon events.
The retcons started by getting rid of Eggman Nega. Now Blaze and Silver live happily in two separate dimensions without a main villain ruining their time together.
>>570441729Where's Iblis then? I guess White Space?
Shadow is pure goonslop
Just canonize Maekawa's intent for the ending of Silver's story. The Sol Dimension and the Sol Emeralds were born the moment Blaze sacrificed herself with Iblis sealed inside her. That single act is why she’s forever cursed with those flames. That’s why she’s so deeply bonded to the Sol Emeralds and why they answer to her above anyone else. It's probably even why she's scared of heights, something in her remembers how scared she felt to float away and "die".Let me ask you this, /sthg/. The Jeweled Scepter controls volcanic activity, but more importantly, it channels the Power of the Stars, the force that holds the entire Sol Dimension together. "Sol" is the Roman name for the sun god. Solaris was a sun god. Both the Scepter of Darkness, which contained half of Solaris, and the Jeweled Scepter radiate the same purple-pink energy. You think that's all just random? Because it likely wasn't, and if '06 hadn't been such a massive failure, they probably would have expanded on that. The era of shitting on '06 lore is over. Hire an actually good Japanese writer and delve back into it. There's nothing to really lose, since both Silver and Blaze are in a terrible spot as characters.
>>570441969Yes? If Mephiles is there, why wouldn't Iblis?
>>570442006>Just canonize Maekawa's intent for the ending of Silver's story.No thanks and good thing Sega dropped it. It disrespect Nishiyama's vision rendering his work as an extension of Silver and everyone else at Sonic Team seemed to have saw that too.
>>570441873It seems very hard to just give Silver a unique villain from the future and give Blaze a unique villain in her home dimension.
>>570442124They disrespected Nishiyama's vision already dude. A year after Rush. You can't undo that, and no amount of complaining will stop it, so at least do something interesting with it.
>>570442310Rush is considered Blaze's true origin and lore, so Nishiyama won actually.
>>570442006The Jeweled Scepter is more powerful than both emeralds and is said to ensure the existence of parallel universes. I don't think any of that was intentional. It's like Babylon showing up in Rush Adventure and Riders.I've had the same idea and Ian mentioned that he had a solution to all this in BumbleKast. So I think all 3 of us had the same idea but that just means its not actually canon.I think Blaze just went home using Burning Blaze.
Does anyone even like Ray the Flying Squirrel?
>>570442006>>570442124this is never confirmed, maekawa just said ''there were intended connections'' he never stated what the connections were. she namedrops sonic and amy in scrapped voice files possibly the ime travel with sol emeralds made her memory blurry.
>>570442552>and Ian mentioned that he had a solution to all this in BumbleKast.That sounds even worse. Imagine that retard delving into that garbage.
>>570442607Blaze never interacts with Sonic and the gang in the entire game and that was definitely done intentionally.Her whole presence in the game will always be weird because not even Mephiles acknowledged her existence.
>>570442607What the connection was is pretty clear. Just go with it. What reason is there not to do it? It doesn't prevent them from exploring the Sol Dimension on its own, it just patches up plot holes and gives you an answer to "What do we do with Silver and Blaze?".
>>570442008uh idk. Why was Mephiles there? Was he plucked from the timestream by Time Eater or was he just there cause he got yeeted by Sonic and Elise?Iblis is also apparently in Crisis City in Generations. So it must have been pulled from Silver's future. We don't know where the "actual" Iblis is.
>>570442852Just let it go. Sonic Team dropped the idea and has long moved on.
>>570442573He's fun to play as in Mania.
>>570442876You didn't see Iblis because he had no reason to show up. Maybe if Silver Generations became a thing you might see him since he's Silver's first nemesis.
>>570442852there's too much evidence to the contrary if you dig up that it was likely not the intention. its much more likely sol emeralds sent her there to solve a problem.
>>570442773silver can talk with ghosts appearently... but maybe they didnt have the time to implement whatever that is.
>>570442008>>570442876According to the wiki>Cutscene: Gerald Robotnik dialogue, after defeating Mephiles.>Gerald: You say you encountered a foe you don't remember? The damage done to the time streams may be stirring up echoes of past alterations. Hmm? Oh, I've studied time-manipulation, but I am no expert on it. All I can offer are my educated guesses.Okay so I guess Mephiles wasn't pulled in. So yeah if Solaris got yeeted and Mephiles is there that means he somehow split and it would make sense if Iblis is in White Space.Or not cause they can just do whatever they want.
>>570442773what do you think the intention was
>>570443139>Mephiles saw Silver talking to thin air and thought. "Neat. A schizo. Easy to manipulate."
Iblis Generations>Iblis from Silver's future in Blaze>Iblis from Silver's future in Sonic's Crisis City pulled in by Time Eater>Iblis in Whitespace as an echo from Sonic and Elise blowing SolarisOkay but there would be two to three Iblis
>>570443249They didn't any contradictions to Rush by having Blaze talk to them and just left it vague.
>>570443354the ghost npc that silver talks to is also a reference to the mary garnet story
The weirdest part of Blaze in 06 to me is still "so this is the past". Makes no sense.
>>570443354>>570443452https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Renzo
>>570442923But clearly you haven't judging by this constant autistic arguing over it. Stop complaining about it if you don't want a solution, it's annoying. >>570443072It is the intention though. https://x.com/mizuhano/status/930661332302606338 https://x.com/mizuhano/status/1010563445068976128
>>570443162Mephiles was the only enemy in Gens who knew he was in some sort of limbo and didn't exist, but I think that's because he's part of a literal time god.
>>570443428she was going to namedrop sonic in white acropolis and also going to namedrop amy in some unknown point. but idk what they had in mind.
>>570443521he says there were connections and that iblis could be in blaze, he doesnt say 06 was before rush or that blaze reincarnated into something.
>>570443521Iizuka had already made a statement about it a long time ago.Eggman Nega is from the future and Blaze is from another dimension. That Iblis thing is not relevant and part of Sonic Team's plans for the franchise. Get over it.
>>570443521Eh all that post is saying is "Blaze isn't in Forces because she's fighting Iblis inside her" but the fact that Sonic Colors DS is canon and she's there kinds throws a wrench in that.Not saying Iblis still isn't in Blaze but that post is his headcanon and doesn't corroborate reincarnation theory.
>>570443139But... she physically destroys a bunch of Eggman's robots when she has her solo stageAt best, she would be a tulpa, not a ghost
>>570443702Sorry it's just that I believe the writer of the scene over you. Sorry! Can't help it.
>>570443673It's shippershit, dude. Iblis is not in Blaze ans Rush firmly takes place before 06. Sonic Team has not budged on this. But there are people who are still delusional and mentally retarded over completely abandoned plans that are not applicable to the current series for 20 years.
>>570443920And I believe the people who are actually involved in Sonic Team and already made their stance. Respect that. They do not have that Iblis still on the table for their direction. End of discussion.
>>570443963Has Sonic Team ever said Iblis isn't in Blaze though? As far as we know she just went home.
>>570444057And I'm saying maybe they should have it on the table for their direction. Shut the fuck up about how much you hate Silvaze if you hate the idea, because you're the one insisting it be more nonsensical than it already is. Silver is part of Blaze's character. Respect it.
>>570444103If Iblis was in Blaze they would've said something already.
>>570444186>Silver is a part of Blaze's characterI mean not really, no. Everything with Silver turns her into not a character.
>>570444186>Shut the fuck up about how much you hate Silvaze if you hate the ideaShipper reveals their true colors as always.Anyway, this isn't about Silvaze, you can still enjoy without that dropped stuff. It doesn't matter what you think or feel, it's not part of Sonic Team's vision and you can spend the rest of your life being wrong and seething.
How is this motherfucker still arguing when Shadow Generations basically closed the case in Iblis indirectly by having his other half Mephiles in a state of nonexistence?
>>570444213>Iblis isn't in Blaze they just have the exact same way of spawning into existence for no reason lol
>>570444581You know Blaze still had flames in 06 before the final fight with Iblis, right?
desu the most likely scenario is that we get Silver Generations which just does this >>570441487 and it doesn't change anything about either of them and we return to the status quo and we never hear about Iblis in Blaze again outside of references.>whoa IDW #169 made Blaze's eyes turn green is Iblis gonna come out?!
>>570444718Iblis isn't in Blaze.
>>570444483That Mephiles is half of one of merely 3 Iblis >>570443374
>>570444818Nice headcanon, but I'm talking about official material.
>>570444818But they said at the end of 06 that Solaris exists at the same time in all timesThere can't be many of him because he is the same Solaris everywhere and every whenMakes no sense
my penis is the iblis trigger, iblis my left nut and mephlis my right
Ian: Here's the thing. Working on something else, I actually did get a straight answer, and it was... frustratingly simple. And it's like "that works... OK...". No, I can't get into it that's all private work stuff but maybe it'll come to light eventually. But there- there is an answer. And it works. And I kinda feel dumb for not thinking of it. But uhhh it's there so the real question I can tackle here is "why does anyone remember Crisis City?" And you could maybe say it's like an "echo", a "residual memory", just from the nature of time collapsing around Solaris? I mean the time travel is already pretty darn messy, so maybe it's kind of like a bad dream that they kinda remember, it's a sense of de ja vu. That would be... the EASIEST workaround I can think of.
>>570445027Ian always talks like a fucking idiot. How does anyone hire this man with a straight face?
>>570445027The answer was probably just "the Sol Emeralds sent Blaze to the Iblis future to help Silver"
A lot of you need to just make a fancomic, fangame, or fanfic already.
>>570445176wait a little bit
I love Shadow, Maria and Hope.
>>570445223>HopeWould someone who likes Shadow say this?
>>570445027>No, I can't get into it that's all private work stuff but maybe it'll come to light eventually.What stopped him before?
>Blaze is sent to the Iblis future to help Silver by the Sol Emeralds (because fate lmao)>Blaze seals Iblis inside her>Blaze uses Burning Blaze (for some reason) (also she had them on her the entire time btw) and goes home to her original spacetime>the timeline is erased>everyone (including Blaze, for some reason) gets amnesia
>>570445108I love Shadow, Maria, and am neutral to Hope.
>>570445345>also Iblis gets sent to White Space
>>570445176I'm working on it. I finished reworking everything and reduced scope. Easygoings from here on out.
>>570445108No it's this>Takashi Iizuka (as translated by the Q&A board's translator): But in 2006, basically what happens is that everyone had like amnesia.”
>>570445268Yes.
>>570445176I made a fancomic and a fanfic, I'm not making a fangame because the fangame market is saturated and nothing's going to stand out. Unless you're sure you have a damn good idea.
>>570445524my good idea is a complete game
>>570445027>>570445345What if Soleann's appearance in the DC crossover means we're getting an explanation soon?
>>570445353Cute!
Shadow's ultimate mating press
>>570445176I'm busy drawing Shadow with his face stuffed into Maria's tiddies.
>>570446087And Shadow is the one getting (reverse) mating pressed.
>>570445903... This is genAI. That's not real.
>>570446883
>>570446941Okay, how about I don't want that to be real? I already fucking hate crossovers, and seeing Sinestro attacking Soleanna makes me want to fucking kill myself.
I become head of Sonic TeamHire Ken Penders to write games and get permission to use his characters and loreI put him in the credits using a pen name.fandom thinks sega won the legal battlemeanwhile he actually works with us. but no one knows. bullet dodged as long as I make sure he stays shut the fuck up.Ken writes weird autistic lore and gets cut per sales.Money is dividied on development, Ken's shekels. reduce money spent on marketing slop, skin slop and cross over slop.Gamefags won't complain because characters stay IC (Ken doesn't have a fixing Sonic agenda) and the games play wellArchiefags are happy because they got their characters and lore back.fandom stops flinging shit at each otherThere, Sonic is good again and the fandom is no longer shit
>>570447053can't do nun about it
out of sonamyfags, silvazefags or shadriafags who won the hardest? anything else either lost or was always cope.
>>570445960<3
>>570442124>It disrespect Nishiyama's visionWho the fuck cares
>>570446734I want Shadow stuffed into my tiddies
I don't care about intentions or vision. but maekawa's plot for tying rush and 06 together was trash
>>570447195None____
>>570447359No I do!
>>570443963i am not agreeing with it lol, i am saying maekawa's intention probably wasn't 06>rush, none of what maekawa says indicates 06>rush was the intention
>>570447556NO ME!!
>>570431253MetalSonic's copying ability isnt that powerful. Emerl's is way more powerful.Metalfags just make it out to be more of a big deal than it isAs did Ian.
>>570434129No, Archiefags just dont play the games.
>>570434548>Tangle and Whisper are going on emotional arcs while Sonic and Shadow just say catchphrases and do all the action. It isn't fun.Bell curve meme.
>>570443897spirits can manifest and do crap in japanese fiction. regardless i just think its interesting even if not probably the intention.
>>570448387Much like IDW homos
>>570440367But Shadow isnt part of Sonic's friend group so it doesnt matter.There is no redundancy.
>>570440738
>>570434548Tangle and Whisper are like putting Glee characters in DBZ.
>>570448387>Archiefags just dont play the games.but I am right here...
We could have this, but purists insist Sonic should always be boring
>>570450160It's less purism and more deranged psychosis. I'm halfway convinced that the idiot who keeps seething about anything that isn't "canon" is Iizuka himself. Sure would explain why he's never made a good game, he's too busy yelling at strangers to stop liking things.
>>570449856You don't pay attention to the stories then. You superimpose your ideas from Archie onto them instead of taking them as they are
>>570450486>You don't pay attention to the stories then.I do. stop trying to frame me as a retard, retard.>You superimpose your ideas from Archie onto them instead of taking them as they areBecause I like archie's ideas.
>>570450396>I'm halfway convinced that the idiot who keeps seething about anything that isn't "canon" is Iizuka himself.>everyone has deranged psychosis except for me...Okay lol.
Knuckles' best ship is with Sonic.
>>570450562Anon, don't give it attention. Its mind is broken and its just screeching into the void.
>>570450562>I do. You don't.You admitted to as much.>Because I like archie's ideas.You can like them without superimposing them on the games though. I like some things from Archie in a vacuum but I dont do this.
>>570450569Iizuka-san you have to let people have some fun
>>570450570>Knuckles >shipMUH EMAROLD!!!
>>570450570I don't agree but I do think Sonknux mogs Sonadow and Sonadowfujos woulf be happier if they just shipped Sonknux instead of pretending Sonadow makes sense. But they dont because at the end of the day they just wanna ship Sonic and Shadow because of their perceived status and power.
>>570450675How old are you
>>570450817>implying having fun is immatureAnon, you are in a Sonic the Hedgehog forum thread. Acquire self-awareness.
>>570450936Anon, learn to read.Im implying accusing people of being your boogeyman developer who just hates fun is what is immature.
>>570451076How fucking new are you?
>>570451129>frogpostingIve probably been online longer than you've bern alive desu.
>>570451234If you were you would know frog posting is 4chan culture, nice try newfag
Rush adventure happens right after 06, how many of you need to act like it didn't exist just to push a schizophrenic narrative?
>>570451431Neither Blaze or Silver will be in the next Sonic game so who cares
>570450160>Sanic should be LE VULNERABLE and heckin relatableGet some new material you fags
sanik should be funny and ironic. but not sanik bobs. invent funny sonic that is not sonak bobs plz
>>570451359>4chan culture.Its a fan that started in 2016.
>>570451932Yeah? I like it so I'm not going to stop asking for it. You have a problem with that paisano?
>>570433903Why are there two Chips?
stop making sonic a twink
>>570436031
>>570452853That's what Nicky is for
>>570453041>Shonjic you need to have sex with me to save the world
>>570442852Reincarnation theory goes against the tanabata retelling and doesn't make sense within the game itself
>>570453334Nothing about Sonic makes sense so this is a moot point.
WHITEBOARDhttps://magma.com/d/OInLGng55Uhttps://magma.com/d/OInLGng55Uhttps://magma.com/d/OInLGng55U
>>570453563Whiteboard is never the same without DragoFag..
You can always tell its an archiefag posting when they talk about story because they talk about writing like its a toybox playset rather than a vehicle for creating a compelling experience for playing the game.
>06's script gives the Rush origin>All 06 supplementary material before and after the game released gives Blaze's Rush origin (with the strategy guide directly saying she came from her dimension before the game)>Takashi Iizuka saying she's from her dimension and not the future>Blaze's knowledge and design that someone from Silver's apocalypse wouldn't have>Silver and Blaze aren't actually written as lifelong friends in 06>Blaze's purposeful separation from the cast for most of 06>The royal soul plot point>The fact that Blaze's fire powers come from her role as guardian of the Emeralds>The Power of the Stars>The fact that Silver still has the 06 origin and doesn't remember Blaze from 06>The Tanabata retelling requires Blaze to be both a princess and from a different world than Silver (It's the princess and the cow herder, not two cow herders)>Blaze's unused lines where she recognizes Sonic and Amy>Absolutely nothing saying that she's from the future (including 06 itself)
>>570453563I can't draw?
>>570453656he didn't join them a lot to begin with
>>570454218Based
>IDW digs Sonknux and always play sup the homoeroticism whenever they're both on the same page>every writer except Ian hates Knuckles
>>570452882Reminder that Julie-Su debuted about five years before Silver. And if we're being honest, she did the Trunks shtick better.
>>570453041>>570453327... SIgh. Should've seen that one fucking coming. Death to all corporations and the slop eating animals who enable them. Art is fucking dead.
>>570454519Frontiers also played up the homoeroticism to be fair
>>570454638>she did the Trunks shtick better.I can't see that at all, all i got from her is a jacket and sucking on a modern characters tits
>>570454942It also emphasized that even Knuckles is tired of sitting around doing nothing all day and wants to go fucking treasure hunting. I swear to god like half the dialogue from the main cast in Frontiers feels like a desperate cry for help.
the takarazuka talk in the past few threads got me thinking about why i dislike most sonaze fanart, blaze's takarazuka origin and masculine way of speaking implies whoever's shipped with him has to have an element of subtle bitchness, and most sonaze fanart ignores this for the sake of generic taming the tsundere into tradwife thing. its like the boy version of shadamy. thoughever i dont like uwuver silvaze fanart that plays it too straight either, silver isn't a femboy or a wimp and it's not why he is initially a musumeyuku. i should probably draw my own ship fanarts since i already draw non shipping but i am embarrassed to draw non ships.
>>570453385No it's not. 06 is purposeful in what it does in the story.
>>570454638Because Silver is not being Trunks at all, saving the timeline is a natural time traveler shtick and that's all you can compare him to.
>>570454785Chill out nigga it's just a silly gay fanart
>>570454638She failed in her mission and needed Silver to save her future
>>570455290I will not chill out. Fuck crossovers and fuck you. You want hay fanart, just draw Shinji and Kauru making out. Do not force this shit into another franchise, you skibidi drone child.
Unidentified black mobians
>>570437150Tails origin is a reference to the fox from Urursei Yatsura that fell in love with the main character after being saved from bullies.
>>570455441i've drawn gay porn of sonic characters but i've never forcefully shoved it down people's throats, it's more a matter of how the art is presented and distributed than the creation of the art itselfI'll agree that a lot of people in this community love forcing foreign concepts into sonic to try and indoctrinate others into believing it
>>570455441You must hate Mirai Nikki then
>>570455652
>>570455752Oh fuck off with your tribalist garbage. I see what you're doing, you ain't slick. This is about crossovers being shit, not your obsession. Kill yourself.
>>570455116(me)i enjoy platonic sonic blaze and rush+rush adventure btw, i think i just don't like sonic being her romantic match in ship fanart cuz i think whoevers her romantic match should have a little initial bitchness and openness.
>>570455916I hate the Riders arc so much. Not for the Lanolin shit, but for the diner scene alone. That is some straight up "Okay, but then why don't any of the cops or random citizens kill the Joker?" shit. I HATE it so much! Fucking Hitler casually walks into a diner alone, and NOBODY takes a swing at him? You all deserve this endless nightmare of a world.
Black Armians
>>570456296its a series for grade schoolers anon
>>570455752>i've drawn gay porn of sonic charactershave any proof of that?
>>570456873back in my day when I was a grade schooler. we had Shadow chasing cosmo to fucking kill her. and Dr Robotnik turning mobians into robians and antoine almost fucking died to metal sonic
>>570447098How is this different from what Sonic Team did with GUN starting from Shadow the Hedgehog where they're unquestionably good guys?
>>570456296the diner scene?with babylon rogues?where was the killing question there
>>570456873Even as a kid I would've asked why nobody is trying to kill the bad guy. He's right there, Sonic! Get him! >>570457168Also this.
When I was a kid Shadow had guns
Specialdow
>>570457484Special in being a shit character made for girls
>>570457398Remember when Shadow was gonna straight up murder Eggman? Also, yes, the art in this issue is pretty bad, and no I don't why early Archie Shadow had that gold tuft. Comic books.
>>570456296Sonic and Friends don't see Eggman as a threat and the rest of the blobians in that diner were too scared to try.You know, thinking about it, It is kinda weird how often IDW has Sonic and Eggman work together. I know it's a thing in the games, but it's weird how little IDW has to say about these team ups, considering how often it happens.
>>570457612>kawaii uwu eggman
>>570455962I have no idea what "tribalist garbage means" but yeesh, my bad
Look a remake of Sonic Adventure 2Are you interested?https://youtu.be/DwTDV0EF86g
>>570457157somewhere on the booru probably
>>570456296Eggman can chokeslam a blobian into submission, none of them are capable of taking him
>>570456296Eggman hates working with Sonic yet that diner scene had him seeking out working with Sonic.
>>570458218I think a big body Blobian, like a Vector, Big or even a Cleansweep security guard could take Eggman.
>>570457602i noticed shadow and silvr in particular have a lot of background details that only female fans would notice or care about, that's not to say they don't have masculine traits or appeal to boys either because they do, but it creates an intersting situations where male or female fans enjoy half of the character while ignoring or misconstruting the other half, sonic is has the jp/american split but its more straightforward besides that.
>>570458114>"It's out NOW! ;)">*only another demo*Why do they do this?
>>570458165somewhere?
>>570458356Eggman is on the high end of the lowest tier in fighting prowess, a normie will still not subdue him
>>570455752>draw fag shitWill you show me?
>>570455116>>570456107I agree. Its part of why I like Blazamy stuff but platonic and romantic. Its more easily able to land that stuff without compromising the characters.
>>570456296This is how I know youre an Archiefag. Only /co/fags are autistic about this shit.
that drawchad on trash draws some absolute gaykinohttps://files.catbox.moe/bwl0ik.png
>>570458698>blaze above silverCan blazefags get any more subtle
I have to say that you people are morons and will argue a character does not mean something they repeatedly say over and over again.If you think Eggman likes working with Sonic you disregard the games.
>>570458698>Eggman equal to Tangle>Tangle below Vector
>>570457168>surface level edgy bullshit
>>570458218Do none of these people have guns? This is a world constantly at war with a terrorist empire. I refuse to believe that the majority of citizens aren't packing. >>570458289A lesser point for me, but a valid one nonetheless. And it's a team up for something so small, too.
>>570457201They weren't though. The game ends with them admitting they screwed over Gerald and most of the game is them persecuting Shadow for existing.They still killed Maria and raided the ARK. We even get to play a level that is Shadow running away with Maria when they raid.
>>570458985It's all ocfaggotry
>>570459083It doesn't matter whether Eggman likes or dislikes working with Sonic, what matters is that it happens so often.
>>570459096Now we don't even have surface level!
>>570458985That's pretty gay
>>570459239No it matters that Eggman was written directly contradicting the games and other materials.
>>570459224NTA but what about 06?
... Sigh.
>>570458360I was literally just thinking about this while scrolling old posts on 4chanLook at this shit. 2008fags just wanted Shadow to move on instead of crying about his past and crying about it like an angsty baby and instead br a badass who dgaf
>>570459434Is this comic always this melodramatic
>>570445903>they swapped one Flames of D. for anotherI see..Speaking of D, I see Elise got a new boyfriend!
>>570459371Presumably they are the ones that sealed him away in the future to begin with though its not explicit. They dont do much in that game but supply Shadow with gadgets anyway.
>>570459434Whisper shot him that one time.
/sthg/ is a place that really can teach a person to discuss things on the internet, for shitposting or not.It's just that here it's not good for either of those things because everyone is too fucking autistic to register anything properly.
>>570459643but eggman still could atomize them even if they were in a fucked up space
>>570458698Do idwfans think Silver can only fly? This is one of the most overlooked mischaracterizations of Silver, besides the UwU aspect. People often think of him as just a flying type, when in reality, he has great speed and can telepathically lift tons of objects.
>>570459370RoboHitlerfag....
>>570459461Didn't you hear, anon? Shadow moving on with his life is bad, actually.
>>570459648I like this version of the bunny
when Tangle died Whisper broke down and cried for 10 issueswhen Whisper seemingly died Tangle didn't give a fuck
>>570458985Gay kino and it's trash out of model OC. Do better draw Tails getting knotted by werehog or something
>>570459370>>570459370Not trying to be difficult but, is IDW's portrayal of Eggman and Sonic teaming up really any different from the team ups they had in games like Heroes, 06, and Adv 3?
How is this not a reference to Archie?>>570459461>>570459926Removing Shadow from GUN is the worst retcon Sega has ever done
>>570459926His fangirls are holding him back.His past matters to inform his character, not define him.
>>570459989Because Tangle is a psychopath, while Whisper has PTSD.
>>570460109No, Shadow doesnt need to join GUN, Archiefag.... He is better being independant and working with them when it serves his interests.
>>570374190 i am speculating when he becomes the ''man'' in the relationship is after he continues on in the last story and helps out sonic and co to save the world. the women are the only ones who can't make the sacrifice of their loved ones vs the world, outside of silvaze situation.
>>570459643That's a direct hit to the heart, too
>>570459643>directly in the heartPoor Whisper really is in the wrong franchise. She is explicitly a bloodthirsty soldier for hire, but she's stuck in this all-ages corporate marketing tool where consequences aren't allowed to exist.
>>570460331>Be japanese purist>Have the most boring sanitized predictable and pointless opinion everA match made in heaven
>>570460430I hate gay niggas who psychoanalyse pseudo intellectual bullshit on a funny cartoon video games like this.
>>570460554How is that more boring and sanitized than just having him be a lapdog for the government?Archiecucks have 0 self awareness?The way they have it now allows for scenarios where Shadow opposes GUN still.Your version has him just being their bitch the entire time.
>>570460650The devs of the games literally read Carl Jung for NiGHts dude. Its not an accident Shadow is named Shadow.
>>570460721Being part of the government doesn’t mean you agree with the government all the time, you wouldn’t get it
>>570460451AND YOU'RE TO BLAMEDARLING YOU GIVE LOVEA BAD NAME
>>570460882I like Sonic Tails and Knuckles, I don't like it when leftist homos tell me that they're actually closet homos who have sex in private. I don't like that not one bit
>>570447780weak bait Emerlfag, since everyone is now hyping up Metal's copying ability since what? Archie and the beginning of IDW before it went to shit?
>>570461118I can't but feel like Tangle would be the one to drop that lyric as a one liner. >holy shit, Whisper actually killed Eggman>beat>Tangle: SHOT TO THE HEART
>>570459574>Elise FUCKSWhich characters FUCK or have FUCKED?
>>570460464That's why faggot gets away with everything. They should've killed the series after Metal Virus but noooooooo
>>570460650take it to sonic team then cuz they are the ones who like ''themes and such'' like this.
>>570461592Metal Virus was really an Archie holdover.Once it was over, IDW began in earnest.
>>570461862How much of Ian Flynn's fans are transgender woman
>>570460882>>570460430>>570461716>media literacy folx
>>570461862>earnestBeing a trauma dumping ground for the writers are what IDW really worth, I hope that one day every single writers and """"artists"""" will get lay off so they can start drawing porn just to live day by day
>>570458879>>570455116(me)iam not big on yuri desu but it still works better than sonaze. if i had to rank, in-character silvaze>blazamy>ooc/uwuver silvaze>romantic sonaze.
>>570461118>picWoah someone finally colored it?
>>570459630I never played 06 but why was Shadow's story about the world turning against him and what does that have to do with Elise? Does Shadow even interact with Elise in 06?
>>570461474Shadow probably watched Maria masturbate
>>570461107>americans glorify being a government drone.Typical
>>570437370one part of that world, everyone’s getting spiritually touched by chip’s groin
>>570460451>>570460464WHISPER'S DOING THAT MARKSMAN THING!
>>570461427we're not telling you that, any actual ship that has romantic connections in the sonic team media (sonamy, silvaze, shadria/knuxouge/shadouge, tailsmo) are straight, doesn't mean they don't have ''psuedo intellectual bullshit''
>>570461442>Emerlfag out of nowhere Metal's copying begins and ends with Chaos Control in Heroes. That was it.Then he copies 1 power from whoever he is racing at a time in Rivals.Metal is general is reliant on stealing shit from other characters to try and justify his astroturfed relevance.He is a statement merchant.90% of his shillings comes from Ian giving him MechaSonic stuff in IDW because he wanted to shill his headcanon that Mecha was his beta when he never was.Metalosers deserve nothing.
I dislike Sega relying on the movies
>>570462786they can't sell on their own. they literally brought spongebob to help them sell
>>570462719>That feel when Metal Sonic is just Combot from Tekken 4, the best Tekken game in the series.
>>570462304Shadow and Rouge let Mephiles loose and seal him on thr past to begin with. Silver goes back in time to learn about and help seal Iblis. They also both rescue Elise after the Solaris project and Silver gives her the chaos emeralds she has at the start of the game as a lucky charm.
>>570462719Mecha didn't relevant to Sonic series that much because blame their direction and IDW fags, the whole idea of Metal was being a rival to Sonic and fuck Amy on the way, that's about it. Also that's two times the copy from other people for his own benefits rather than sucking Eggman dicks until he got lobotomized.
>>570462989I miss this thing like you wouldn't believe...also>t4 is best tekkendebatable but i do enjoy it a lot
>>570459461this is why i sort of sigh when people use silver being controversial as a reason to deny his popularity among younger gen cuz shadow was similarly considered annoying and ''faggy'' to the audience for his maria lore and was considered not as legit as STK, people pretend it was always obvious to the audience that he was #2 most popular character.ofc, silver is not well used or written as shadow, 06 is not as well received as sa2 etc. but i am not surprised at him winning the third place on that poll at all.as for me, i think shadgens and jet black shadow was a nice change for him to properly grieve before moving on, i don't think it necesarily regressed him.
>>570463265Metalfags want yoy to believe literally everything Eggman ever made after CD is inferior to Metal just to shill their Pinocchio conplex botlet.They are as delusional about Metal as Metal is himself.
I have had the most autistic conversation this year so far in the jazz jackrabbit 2 online game chat
>>570463646i still haven't finished the main game... i should fix that
>>570463646
>>570444984when you ejaculate into an female, do they become the new seal of iblis and mephiles, because if so, you might not want to touch yourself till you pass on the mantle to someone else >>570457602your in special ed class, fitting for someone with that mindset
>>570463638>nice change for him to properly grieve before moving on, i don't think it necesarily regressed him.Thats my reading as well, but a lot of his fangirls instead see it as him being "fixed" back into revolving around Maria, and screech if you suggest otherwise.
>>570463785some dude made a typo while texting and the other dude ranted for 5-10 minutes straight on why it's important to fix typos so that you don't get in trouble. and claimed he got a "qwerty syndrome" whatever that means>>570463783There are some breddy gud custom made levels, too
>>570463945being psuedo intellectual about it, rouge is probably the maria replacement. going forwars, madonna>amy ma> maria>''dark amy'' i wouldn't really mind getting some more maria flashbacks in a slice of life side stuff, its cute.
>>570437513
>>570460451eggman exhaled all the oxygen in his lungs, clam mind, slowing his body for his heart to be smashed just for an second, causing whisper to miss her shot, better luck next time, wolf fuck
>>570464134kek what was the typo? what did he mean by getting in trouble?
>>570464370There doesn't need to be Maria replacement. Maria is Maria. Rouge is Rouge.Her memory has its place. It just doesn't have to define him at the expense of his own individuality.
>>570459643whisper missed all of eggman’s vital organs
>>570464480dude said "ho" instead of "hi". and the other dude lost his shit because "it can mean a bad thing" and he had to rant about it for a couple of minutes
>>570464797lol
>>570464797incredible levels of autism on display
>>570462719Copying everyone made him invincible though, Eggman said so himself, and Super Team Sonic couldn't hurt him without a Team Blast
>>570462454American franchise
What are Shadow’s hobbies?
>>570465190Westaboo franchise. ArchieFRAUDs wouldn't get it
>>570458360I'm pretty sure I've said this before.With Silver though the masculine appeal is very lacking cause he has no lore that can be taken literally, and it's all wrapped up in the romantic tragedy of Silvaze. Male fans always want him to explore his future so they can do History of Future Trunks type shit. They don't really care about the bue skies/ tanabata stuff. They insist that Silver's memory was erased means thet Silvaze doesn't matter, and I've had to explain repeatedly that it's because Silver's memories were erased it matters.To be clear I also think it's lame and gay but I can at least understand it instead of being a chauvanist.
>>570464797>hears the word ho >thinks of eggman >gets autistically angry eggman victory
>>570465278>westaboo franchise but we give our black edgy hedgehog a pistol and a motorbike Typical Japanese folklore
my shift is finally overalso 'iona is cool
>>570460430Has to be. That's the conclusion of his arc.I do wonder if Silver and Blaze are naturally in-sync or if it's because of 06. Because they make a deliberate point to change the way Silver and Blaze walk together across multiple scenes. I believe it's always Blaze taking the lead; even in the first scene Blaze points first.
>>570465331Breath of fresh air post. Hell this stuff happens with Sonic as well. There is a reason Sonic fangirls prefer Game!Sonic and actually like Elise.Its the boys that found it cringe and lame and insist Sonic's story didnt matter but Shadow and Silver's did. Because Shadow and Silver's story have them fighting monsters and demons.Sonic's story is about him helping a girl come out of her shell.
>>570465432Yes?Japanese love motorcycles. MovieShadow does the Akira slide lmao.The way Shadow uses weapons isnt CoD or Battlefield coded at all.
>>570465905>helping a girl come out of her shellthe girl being an crab
>>570466000the good ol' reliable~
>>570465331i ve actually started to see more male silvazefags cuz theres more awareness of silver having a more rude/cooler personality in japan and more cooler fanart. a lot of silvaze hate, people wont admit it outside of shtg was rooted in seeing silver as too femboyish or pathetic rather than the lore implications for blaze. it's not really enough but a character put in dramatic situations with cool psychokinetic powers and a cool design will still apeal to males even if they aren't heavy lorefags.
>>570465905Did you miss the part where I said it was lame and gay?
>>570464797>thinking being a ho is badLame as fuck
>>570465905i haven't seen much female sonelise fangirls either, it exists but sonamy and sonadow will always eclipse sonelise so people see it as a rival ship, and the aesthetics of her being a human don't help either.
>>570465775~~Fi’ is cooler.~~Double the Fiona is better.
>>570466268Yeah we've gotten Sonazefags to admit they just hated it because they saw Silver as a femboy twink, lol.
>>570465775fiona sexy
>>570466386you should always fix you're typo's., anon
>>570466385No, its fine if you do. Id rather than than pretending it isn't in the writing. There is room for personal opinions on the matter, lol.I just hate blocking the conversations that happens by haters
>>570466386He's got wood!
>>570466268(me)>>570466268of course said male silvazefags aren't really interested in tanabata/takarazuka role reversal etc. stuff other than using it as an own for sonazefags but you can market practically anything.
>>570466641Cream is so perfect~
>>570466047>The way Shadow uses weapons isnt CoD or Battlefield coded at all
>>570466535its funny too cuz ono daisuke voice and the chest fur imply he's more masculine than sonic desite being a musumeyaku at first. maybe miijiu can attract more male silvazefags since she draws silver as sharper.
>>570466463Fiona a shit.
>>570466537Don't even think about it, ugly... voluptuous, sweaty, drooling hot rat.
>>570466268>it's not really enough but a character put in dramatic situations with cool psychokinetic powers and a cool design will still apeal to males even if they aren't heavy lorefags.It's true even if I think Shadow and Silver are lame when they're taken at face value they are cool. Admittedly I can't help myself but onions out when I see shit like this, despite Black Knight having no context, it's so sick.If you made Silver cool people who don't get him will still like him. This is why potentialfags exist even if they don't understand Silver's themes and such.
>>570466596i don't want to say the full word out of respect weirdly it's the least i can doDon't ever question me again
>>570466409The heat elise got makes it so they keep their heads down but they have always existed.In my experience Sonamyfags dont even see it as a rivalship really. I mostly see it used by antis if anything.I personally like Amy and Elise's friendship.
>>570464797you should said "shut your hoe ass up"
>>570466857Whisper a nigger.
>>570466641Kek yeah pretty much i dressed this way from time to time growing didn't care if you liked it or not and they hated that lol
>>570466047the Akira slide is so played out as a reference, I'm honestly sick of seeing it.
>>570466845How is this cod or battlefield?This gives GTA vibes at best.
>>570466862that isn't nearly well animated enough to be sick
>>570466000>anon was later hospitalised for an destroyed pelvis>reason for it to happen? >being fucked full by an angry sonic as he moved 30 mph in and out>with sonic setting beside anon’s bed>anon wearing an cast around his entire pelvis
>>570466268>theres more awareness of silver having a more rude/cooler personalityVery tru, thank you black niggers for making silver more masculine and manly
>>570466862again repeating i think even the dislike for silvaze stemmed more from the fact dudes saw him as too much of a twink too self insert rather than actual lore implications for blaze. i understand why a lot of genuine blazefags dislike silvaze but you gotta admit a lot of it came more from uwuver than tanabata stuff being disliked.
>>570467051Fuck YOU you FUCKING Jew Wop Slut Bitch
>>570467169I don't even disagree. But bikes have always been loved by the japanese. Toriyama frequently has characters driving em just because he likes vehicles in general epsiecially bikes.
>>570465775Must be grueling having to stand on the street corner in the rain.
Woah Silver is so manly and rude
>>570466641I look like this and act like this
>>570467107>didn't care if you liked it or not and they hated that This remember this was the time of Sonic bad cause journalist/internet said so not to mention how odd the fanbase could be Me being the weird kid in a urban area no less wearing a Sonic shirt sometimes came with wanted negative attention
>>570466696I just think Silver slander is funny is all.
>>570467392It's ok, there are many cute nigresses out there. all of them are NOT whisper the wolf! AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>570467507>>570467367yaoi fangirls drawing this stuff is definitely not exclusive to silver, idk what is your point. i am probably responding to bait but sonic fanbase is the only fanbase that will use gay ship fanarts as an argument for what canon characterization is.
>>570466858
>>570467567Anon! What have you DONE??
>>570467567the good old loop de loop to your death
>>570467367We need this but for Amy. Not enough people seem to get she was supposed to be a gyaru.
>>570467567Uhhh I don't gedid..
>>570467459I can agree this, Motorbikes are indeed cool. I just think people reference the akira slide out of obligation at this point.
>>570467617Honestly glad i was a bit of a rude buster and weird growing up
>>570467708What fanart do I use then? For every cool silver ganar I can find 10 more of him being a cutie pie
>>570467906Yeah its a reference for the sake of making one. I doubt they even care about Akira itself when they make it. They just do it just to do it.
looking at this thread it's clear that young males in the fanbase back in the 2000s had a distaste for romance, and stories focused on that were boring to them
>>570467934i can also find 242314231 fanarts of sonic getting fucked in the ass by shadow, does this mean it is his intended characterization?
Sonic central, whatever happened there?
>>570462719I know for an damn fact mecha sonic wrote this, couldn’t handle metal sonic being the favourite one, getting all the fame, while mecha gets remembered by smbz and his boss fight, two which are him using egg mobile
>>570468050>>570468050>looking at this thread it's clear that young males in the fanbase back in the 2000s had a distaste for romanceThis fanbase still got an award for the most aggressive shipfags in the world.
>>570467107>>570467617These are the same kind of people who fight over pokemon cards and whatever Hailey bieber is intoIt's weirdly vindicating although i wish this shift in society never happened it's so negative
>>570466862>>570467384(me)what i am saying is if you can get enough males to self insert as silver to fuck blaze, anti-silvazefagging is actually over.
>>570468050Well yeah. I was there is can tell you as much. When I saw the Elise kiss, I thought it was cringe because I thought Sonic in a Disney princess romance kiss scene was cringe. Her being a human has nothing to do with it.I imagine it was the same for a lot of people and the meme campaign coellested into default public opinion just mutated it into "lol beastiality"The posts from 2008 poke fun at Elise for being a furfag but thats kind of where it ends. It was just an extension of existing memes about furries on the board.
>>570468338Are the Egg Mobile Mecha Fights the first instance of nostalgia pandering in the franchise?
>>570468259I just can't help but laugh when people say "Silver is totally going to be super rude now guys we are winning the argument online" cope
>>570468343Not even close to Pokémon lol.Most of thr shipfagging came from the Archie side.
>>570468570it's still more likely than him having a ships other than silvaze.
>>570467384Well yes. I think many fans of Silver & Blaze and Sonic & Blaze are actually just confused and if they actually understood would like the other instead.I think Sonic & Blaze nor Silver & Blaze don't cover the full spectrum of Blaze (ship) dynamics and both end up getting flanderized to cover that ground in ways that fuck up the character. This is how Uwuver came to be in the first place.
>>570468405I'm not invested in most of the it including whatever 4chan has had a hand in and I don't feel bad about it I mind my business
>>570468691(me)>>570468570in canon, i mean , fanarts don't mean anything.
>>570468678>muh archieNow are we pretending it's not true?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ESkc_qDpuM
>>570468864Even accounting for Archie, Pokémon shipfaggotry obliterates Sonic.
>>570468987Ok maybe not an award, but amongst the top 10.
>>570466862>If you made Silver cool people who don't get him will still like him>Silver just needs to be coolThen the problem is the disconnect between the audience and Sonic TeamThey tried making him cool in 2006They tried making him cool in Generations They tried making him cool in Forces
>>570468776i am being sexist but men usually don't think deeply about ship dynamics, most just want a male character they can relate to or self-insert cuz he likes him and a female character they want to fuck.i dont think uwuver necessarily had to do with shipping, its just how american media interpreted silver regardless if he was gay,asexual or silvaze in the eyes of the writer. i am speculating its because they wanted an easy way to differentiate him from sonic/shadow.
>>570468338Metalfags will try to insist Metal is Mechas upgrade even though SMBZ used Mecha's sprite for Metal's upgrade. People forget that in SMBZ, MechaSonic is actually an upgraded MetalSonic.
>>570468883Real nice song
>>570468050>>570468343>>570468405>>570468536>>570468678>>570468823Look where this behavior has gotten us today
>>570468447Yeah I got your meaning. That's what I meant by >>570468776.Many Blaze fags want her to be a tsundere and for the male to be a cassanova flirt who delinerately courts Blase (by trolling). This is closest to Sonaze.Many team fags want a power couple that butt heads and go super together and go their own way but have a strong bond across space time. This is closer to Sonic & Blaze.
>>570469521i mean sonic isn't romantically interested in blaze nor is he a flirty or sexual character overall for anyone. i get where it comes from but it isn't really more IC than most flavors of silvaze content.
>>570468883I love you foreverIf it was raining it would be betterShade me from the sun around the dayHold me in your arms and always say you can be my only one today'Cause you and me
>>570469521>Sonazefags wanna fuck her into being their submissive bitch because it satisfies their ego.It really is Utena....
>>570469229Self-inserting to fuck your husbando/ waifu is the root of all shipping, not exclusively a male/ female thing. You have to empathize with them at least to a degree.Men have lots of different tastes.Evan Stanley was a Silvaze shipper who created Uwuver and said Silver was important to "find herself". Gabs is also a Silvaze shipper who clearly self-inserts as Blazs for Uwuver (but has different tastes as well).
>>570470037>Self-inserting to fuck your husbando/ waifu is the root of all shipping, not exclusively a male/ female thing. You have to empathize with them at least to a degree.I wouldn't say ALL shipping but certainly the incredible majority of thr autism in shipping comes from that.
>>570469229>i am being sexist but men usually don't think deeply about ship dynamics, most just want a male character they can relate to or self-insert cuz he likes him and a female character they want to fuck.It's too though, men constantly produce semen and thus thirst for an outlet more often than women. It's a matter of biology. We can't really help it. That's why post-nut clarity is a thing.
>>570469521>>570469761romantic sonaze absolutely destroys sonic's intended windshit, platonic sonic blaze is alright and nonoffensive but many blazefags became blazefags in the first place because they interpreted rush ending as romance. this is inherently problematic.
>>570469267Sonic's wife on the left>>570469814Sonic's wife on the right
>>570469336Shut up It's all for the lols
Men do wish for relationship, but we're just more focused on war matters so being cool is a performance to also get the girl.
>>570469761Okay yes but my point is that appeal exists and there is a vaccuum and so it defaults to Sonaze.Sonic & Blaze breaks down even platonically if Sonic isn't characterized like he was under Nishiyama.
>>570470595war is all i think about
In a perfect world there would be enough characters for every platonic and romantic dynamic to ever exist in every permutation and no ship would be elevated above the other.
>>570470037Understandable, but it's refreshing to see fans that cut out the middle man and just make an oc to fuck the character
>>570470573The way he was arguing with the frog he would fit right in here
>>570470595Back then the moid view was "women exist to be fap material or onahole" unless she proves to be a no-nonsense badass and can be one of the boys.Otherwise they are just there to say the character got a girl as armcandy for status flexing.
>>570470669do you think there are also confused sonazefags that would like silvaze if they understood it? or male blazefags that could like silvaze if they understood them? i think you pointed out confused silvazers who would convert to sonaze if they understood it, but do you think the reverse exists at all?
>women suck for being pussies>men suck for being dicks
>>570460056Yes because it is done out of convenience rather than necessity
>>570471080Like I am sorry if you cannot understand the difference then you suck at nuance.
>>570470897In a perfect world we would be hermaphodites, like like every plant and vegetable.You just cum in the air on every spring, the first random organism like you who catches your cum is fertilized, the end.
>>570470669>Sonic & Blaze breaks down even platonically if Sonic isn't characterized like he was under Nishiyama.Yea I wanted to mention this yesterday but Sonic under Nishiyama is too involved in coaching Blaze for what is typical of his character.Nishiyama in general had a creators pet problem with both Cream and Blaze really
>>570471046dumb doe owes me sex
>>570466862>gifThis postgame fight sucks. Black Knight is a shit game.
>>570434159They also just hate anything stopping late stage capitalism.
>>570470996>Back then the moid view was "women exist to be fap material or onahole" unless she proves to be a no-nonsense badass and can be one of the boysI'm pretty sure back then the worldview was just "girls not allowed", because females are icky.
>>570471046bottom right is me
>>570470897In a perfect world, people would stop treating any of that shit as necesary and would stop expecting fictional characters to fulfill this shit for them to begin with and instead just go where they can find what they like, but westoids are entitled and make everything teamsports
>>570470976>THIS CANT BE WHAT YOU WANT She really loved him to stand there and be gaslight that hard :*)
>>570471478>In a perfect world, everyone would go back marrying and shut the fuck upYes.
>>570471418Im talking about fictional characters but yeah there was that as well.If there was a girl, you were supposed to treat her as annoying and dunk on her for existing.Older sister? Shallow bitchLittle sister? Annoying brat that forces you to play barbie and princess and snitches on you.Female peer? Her job is to roll her eyes and sigh over how the male lead is a doofus and needs to be kept in check by a "better half".
>>570471735Not even Fornite will let him live it down kek
>>570471046>women suck pussies
>>570471046>>570471947Bump and Sage wouldn't end up like this
>>570472165>Sage finally opens up about what she does with the toothpaste
>>570471801>monster womanpottery
>>570469521it has been validating to learn that all the gendershit autism surrounding silver and blaze in particular was intentional from sonic team since 06/rush.
>>570471947>>570471735>>570470976whats the qrd, i see people keep meming this shit
I fell for clown propaganda...
>>570471046I'm the OG requester for this image, thank you whoever-you-are drawfag
>>570469272>fan autism makes shit up for cool pointsNo way
>>570471007>do you think the reverse exists at allNo. Silver & Blaze as a power couple is basically a lie and the promise is already fully achieved by Sonic & Blaze. All that's left is ship preference.>confused Sonazefags that would like SilvazeNo, most are into the flirt/ tsundere dynamic.>male blazefags that could like SilvazeNo, most Blazefags want her to be hot-headed and prefer the Sonic & Blaze magnet motif to tanabata.
>>570471845No in my case it wasn't "supposed", my older sister for example was a pain in the ass for how many times she stole the bathroom and my money for her shitty things.
Consider this. Kit and Tails jiggly waterbed butts
>>570472351It has also been validating that all of that shit being subtle japanese theatre is why there is confusion in the first place
>>570472389You were always a clown to me anon.
Surge is like 3 times faster than Blaze
>>570472749i ve seen some sonazefags mention that blaze could ground sonic's impulsiveness or non seriousness which does fit silvaze better, although those tend to be ex sonallyfags rather than dedicated blazefags.
>>570472874i mean western silvazefags did also say stuff like ''silver is blaze's amy'' or ''silver is a malewife'' jokes for years, a lot of it was uwuver but i ve seen people that discouraged or didnt like uwuver also imply that stuff. i think shipfags intuitively get certain things non shipfags confirm years later with obscure info. non shippers kinda coped it with being sibling bond.
>>570472361The Amazing Digital Circus final released and basically Jax freaks out on Ribbit after having a heart to heart with Ribbit She genuinely tried to apologize but he acted like she didn't exist until she finally couldn't take it anymore and confronted him causing a huge fight that caused her abstraction and his delusional mindset
>>570473026This doesn't mean anything, even less in IDW when all characters are nerfed
>>570473468>Kemoshota tops older submissive man
>>570472389Goood
I'll draw Lunar with huge hipsWill you goon?
>>570473468>>570473684
>>570473784i've been dying for lunar goon material
>>570473684Everyone tops Silver.
>>570473705>The Prototype wasn't supposed to look like a generic creepypasta monster The voice is cool tho
>>570472401
>>570472831post more
https://files.catbox.moe/tahgc7.jpg
>>570473330I don't watch this show, but that basically sounds like The Slap but even stupider, which would be quite an achievement if accurate.
>>570473468>>570473684Keeeeek
>>570473468i tried to look up this artist and one of the first results was a sonails wiki listing every sonic artist that has drawn sonic x tails content and how much they have done it. Huh
Mystery Echidnas.
>>570462719Reposting this since Mecha was brought up just because no mater how many years pass it's cool as fuck:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tczLt0zWU4
>>570474014>today is sotm 1 year anniversaryLooking back Jackie was no better the teaser version was miles better Sonic Underground played a bigger role than she did Also based how both sotm and crossworlds managed to sell well
>>570473973True. Did you know that Silver and Tails are the only male characters without a malexmale ship where their name is the one that comes first? It's a small detail but it says a lot
>>570473468>Ywn be topped and dominated by shota foxes.P A I N
>>570474101dragobro would indulge my Elias craving. Where are you now Drago bro
>>570461474>>570466000
>>570469272>MechaSonic is actually an upgraded MetalSonicthat’s dumb, really dumb, why would they want to do that, I always thought that mecha sonic was mad that he lost his fights, want rogue against eggman, used the other metal sonic version to make himself stronger, being after sonic heroes for mecha to get shadow’s chaos abilities from when neo metal did his stuff, because what you said, makes it sound like neo sonic all over again
>>570472727The point is even back then people didnt see Mecha as a stepping stone to Metal. Its just a narrative Metalfags spread to shill the character.Even Forces describes Omega as stronger than Metal but Meralfags downplay and ignore it because their memebot is a statement merchant using his CD bio from 1993 to carry him
>>570473784Yeah but
>>570473973>picIt’s astounding how Fiona makes for a better Sally.
>>570475085me on the right
>>570472782No way that this is the entirety of your relationship
>>570473026Blaze isnt even a speedster.
>>570474736MechaKino always stay on fresh even years later.
>>570473784only if you actually post it than being always a tease
What's the Golden rule for dealing with foids gentlemen?It's to utterly ignore them and not feed their attention addiction.
>>570475790Cute, I did the same with my brothers and we turned out alright
>>570475790STOP
>>570475418The shit you don't know.
>>570474736>>570475801mecha looks so cool, it's a shame he wasn't made the main robot copy of Sonic
>>570474316Post the rest you fag
>>570475158NeoMetal in general cribs from MechaSonic.His design makes him look more like Mecha. Him betraying Eggman is like how Mecha goes rogue and kills EggRobo to take the ME for himself.Mecha pilots all Eggmans machines in Sonic 3. Neo disguises himself as Eggman to do this in Heroes.Metal is a plagiarist fraud. Even his copy ability is stolen from Emerl.Even his plagiarism ability is plagiarism.
>>570475871me and my brothers rubbed cocks together (i'm the youngest)
>>570474740Mimic wasn't fast enough to save his buddy
>>570474101Elias is married
Fox
I wish for some mobian to eat my cum.
>>570476251>fast enough It literally chased down a van and wrecking it with one punch despite that kek
>>570475970The problem with Metal imo is his design is based too much on Sonic. Specifically Classic Sonic.MechaSonic does the "robot misunderstanding of the hero" thing better imo. Metal looks too much like a character and not enough like a machine.The result is people just end up deeling sorry for Metal whrn he loses rather than triumphant when we defeat him.
>>570476375
Iizuka should really try hard to get a PerSonic game made before he retires if he still wants that RPG.I mean ffs the game cast mostly fit arcana archetypes pretty well as is.Tails as MagicianKnuckles as ChariotSo forth and so forth.
>>570476591>deeling*feeling
>>570476513i need to.play thst mimic game those sonic fans made i hear it fun
>>570476820If they did that they'd have to actually write the characters well and give us the option to date certain characters. Neither of which ST has the skill to do. They'd be entirely reliant on Atlas fixing their fuckups.
>>570476591>The problem with Metal imo is his design is based too much on Sonic. Specifically Classic Sonic.>MechaSonic does the "robot misunderstanding of the hero" thing better imo. Metal looks too much like a character and not enough like a machine.SonicTeam should bring back Mk.0
>>570472351>>570472874It's not. 06 isn't written with takarazuka stuff in mind it's just Blaze's costume.
Sonic & Tails!
>>570476591cool pic. I like how the artist put dark matter sword in there next to silver sonic because of their visors.
>>570476965Bite The Night it's fun imo i like the design and voice acting good too there other killers as well none Sonic but there's a Sonic easter egg in game
>>570476092>sonic heros >december 30 2003>sonic battle>december 4 2003the hell, anyway, emerl existence confusing, far older than 300 years, more than chaos was sealed, so dangerous he had to be sealed way in fear of the world being destroyed, just like chaos
>>570477153probably the best looking fanart of Silver Sonic I've seen. His design is so basic and underwhelming but this artist managed to add just enough details and emotion to him that he looks cool
>>570477213in-step is too specific of a wording for us to say it definitely didn't have a base. and yes silver did get grouped together with amy likes in a few other places(olympics victory animations for blaze, ''handling type'' ). in 06 he is the only male character not being able to choose the world over their loved ones. and even if you believe silvaze isn't initially supposed to be that, making a character with a takarazuka larp costume alone will inevitably invite that audience.
>>570477608
>>570477618No, schizo. It's not a takarazuka thing.
>>570477618(me)kishimoto gets validated for ''lines'' again
>>570476296A King does as he pleases
>>570477439I prefer the spiral eye design for the eyes
Will Frontiers Definitive break the Sonic Curse in Japan
>>570477750stop acting like that means anything to you
>>570477750tell me why would they make a takarazuka costume character if she's not meant to be at the very least imply a masculine role for a female, someone post the kishiomoto jpg about ''reading between the lines''
>>570477846>>570477846>>570477846
>>570477739nice, thank you
>>570477892it means something to him because either he doesn't want to accept his waifu has some masc traits or if not, probably an auraverfag that thinks it enforces gay/uwu silver.
>>570476251>>570476513wasn’t that before the mimic made himself his own legs? >that edwin murray this one looks far better than the other one, the other one looked like shaggy from from scooby doo
>>570477439>Why are you running...?>It's easier when you don't runBoost away you evil shit
>>570477943That's an idea for Blaze. It has no implication in 06's story and it's not how Silver and Blaze are presented.
>>570478006There's more here:https://egg-emperor.tumblr.com/post/178331034243
>>570478634sweet, thank you again anon
>>570478502they do the in-sync shit in 06, blaze does watch over him and get him to do shit like deciding to kill sonic(male role) silver mirrors amy, rouge and elise in choosing their partner over the world(he did a female thing) this doesn't mean blaze is pegging silver, as it's more subtle and not supposed to be permanent anyway.
>>570479106They're written with tanabata not takarazuka. I don't care about aura or whatever, takarazuka would apply to Rush if anything but's not in 06 or how Silver and Blaze are presented.
>>570479624they are written with both intentions, things can be multiple things at once.takarazuka does not apply to rush as sonic is not playing a female role or mirroring the female characters. though if you think it applies you can expand to me on why you think so.
>>570479106Silver never takes a male role. He remains useless bitch in the entire story.
>>570480062he is the one who first suggests sonic can be revived when everyone loses hope in the last story. which is a more sonic-like role. then he is a key in defeating solaris.
>>570479891No they're not. You guys made this shit up and there's no indication of it anywhere.
>>570479624can you explain why rush might be takarazuka, i don't feel like arguing about reading between the lines for 10 replies now but i am curious for your interpretatiton on why it might be relevant here, to me, sonic never really plays a role that can be called feminine in rush.
The in-step stuff comes for this:https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/1mf470x/the_way_blaze_follows_silver_progresses_in_06/
>>570481265heh
>>570480326That happens after his story and when Blaze is gone so that's not him taking a male role with their relationship.>>570480504Blaze and her takarazuka costume were designed for Rush. That's it.
>>570481598>>That happens after his story and when Blaze is gone so that's not him taking a male role with their relationship.i think the male role comes from the fact he can sacrifice love for mission from that point on instead of being fixated on it. other media after 06(at least from sonic team's side) shows him in male roles, like butler silver being contrasted with maid blaze.>>Blaze and her takarazuka costume were designed for Rush. That's it.we know the takarazuka information because of the 06 internal documents in the first place and we know maekawa did plan to connect 06 and rush, its not far fetched to assume it could be relevant there.
