/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#848 - ifa genshin impact shirtless edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsCLAUDE FABLE FUCKING BANNED https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999Minimax-M3 https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3Kimi 2.7 Code https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-CodeClaude Fable 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5Chub has changed their TOS https://chub.ai/tosBotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdooradditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.orghttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>570655559
>ANCHOR
Where is Fable?
>>570740557I eat those model.
i WILL respond to my emails before the end of THIS thread
God fucking damn it, again?
>jeetshin impact
>>570740801Gachajeets BTFO
>>570740557Here anon should explain everything full slop so you can understand it.https://files.catbox.moe/sfervk.mp4
>want to see hot sluts from genshin>get disgusting m*les insteaddamn it all...
>>570741381i can provide the sluts, but be warned that they'll be... big
Current bot idea: > Tall bee girl muscle mommy childhood friend: You’re her childhood friend and she’s scared of breeding with you because she thinks you’ll die after having sex.Also the partner card:> Small bee dude that really wants to fuck you (the queen) and have the perfect date before hand. Before dying. Allegedly.
>>570741524god I wanna impregnate ganyu
>>570741626i cant say how based that is, because im not actually familiar with the gameplease take another slut for your troubles
OMFG DOOD SHIT IS SOOO GACHARIGGED
>>570741586Hm...its good. But what if goth...
hobby still dead huh
>Trump is cucking me from FableFix your shit you niggas
>>570731169>QUICK. TELL YOUR BOT TO SPELL I C U P
>>570742336just because theres no fable doesnt mean the hobby is dead
>>570742012>please take another slut for your troublesthats a man...
>>570741524...it's the thought that counts
>>570741586Fund it
>>570742550i apologize good sir, i am not familiar with genshin and merely wished to provide sluts in a fellow coomer's time of need
>>570742474momo a cute
>>>/vt/112698649cftf?
>>570731169
>>570742951wow this sheep sounds retarded
Somebody has probably said it before but yeah.. I can't wrap my head around the fact that there are women willingly letting a man penetrate them and even put their disgusting fucking semen inside their vagina. I don't care that its whats keeping the human race alive. Sex is fucking disgusting and literally humiliating for women. Its not just the act but also the fact that men who sleep around are celebrated while women who sleep around are seen as whores who deserve to die alone and the entire reason is so because being penetrated is humiliating. You're letting someone take over you and giving them all the power, its fucking patriarchal. Its honestly sad to see that women have been brainwashed and have convinced themselves its what they want. On top of that so many women don't even get an "orgasm" which is why the orgasm gap exists, imagine getting shamed for sleeping around while also rarely experiencing an orgasm. I wonder why do women even get into random hookups/have sex in general. Is it to feel loved or be desired? Its so depressing to think.
>>570742951I remember this semen demon, did you ever finish her?
Fuck what's the current meta? Open router is getting super retarded for me and I don't know which models work best while not draining my wallet, any alternatives around?
>>570742951>openrouter gemma>using gemma without local>using gemma via connected API when gemini existswhy tho
>>570743118-PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP-
>>570742948no one cares about vtumor slop here
>>570743269https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2
>>570742951Card? I am a sheepfucker.
>>570743040Which means it doesn't sound like an assistant. My example dialogue must be working well.>>570743262I had to start over when I realized just how much Deepseek was sanitizing my character.>>570743271You need a 5090 to run full gemma. Then when you do you can't gen pics or use TTS on the side so OR is better. Only costs 0.003 per swipe at 32k anyway.
>>570731169>No. What are you, twelve? Actually don't answer that, you're gonna say something like 'twelve inches deep in your mom' and then I'll have to push you in the pond.
>>570743643>You need a 5090 to run full gemma.Sorry I take that back I was thinking of something else. You need 70gb vram.>>570743630Not finished.
My favorite vtuber just got cracked on stream, how do I turn this into a card? Like a 50/50 thing where each response is half describing her irl and the other half is describing her model on stream and Twitch chat's reactions?
>>570743915How can vtubers get away with having sex on stream?
>>570742948>>570743915fuck off back to /vt/ please
>>570743915link?
>>570743404Glm always ends up cutting messages short, other models work 'fine" but those specifically get only a paragraph in before stopping, any solutions to that? Might be my sillytavern settings I use a mobile version that hasn't been updated in ages
>>570742852ON IT BOSS STARTING THE BEE PIPELINE
>>570743784I understand. I shall content myself with Alinaea's mom in the meantime.
Evil bot idea: A botmakie that doesn't answer their emails
>>570744247i'm tired of emails quite frankly
>>570743992They have an army of simps ready to run damage control for them. It's not the first time.
Joyful bot idea: A botmakie that doesn't answer their emails BUT always responds to you immediately when you DM her on Discord
>>570743915Neat concept. Probably just want to tell the card to do exactly that. And maybe put the appearance descriptors into a lorebook so that way you can have them separate? Best idea I've got, idk how well it'll work.
>>570744464botmakies have discords?
>>570743271>geminiIs gemini good? anything i have to know to use it well?
>>570744534A...a-anon?
>>570744027Sorry my bad, let's go back to some high quality on-topic /aicg/ discussion:Which botmakie has the tightest bussy?
>>570744170probably just git pull stagingotherwise glm 5.2 will fix it, trust.
>>570744464>their emails>her on discord
>>570740449>>570740431*eats my choco food*
>>570744607Yeahthey have calls and chats where they e-sex each other too
>>570744698stop noticing
>>570744534They do and some of them are actually huge normiefags(or at least trying to normiefag) outside of aicg>Unironic pronouns in bio>Discord linked to xitter, spotify, steam, etc>Blatant egirl or eboy profilesIts honestly offputting sometimes because all you see here is typical 4chan "woe is me for i have no friends and im like literally crippled and also asocial and have anxiety and etc so i can only ever interact with bots UwU" and then you see their Discord and you can immediately tell that the fucker is in at least two dozen servers and is constantly changing their pfp and shitTwo faced like all the rest
>>570744602I was pretty disappointed by it. I expected it to btfo deepseek as my main comparison point but it really wasn't impressive in the slightest. Probably requires further testing in more varied scenarios though.
>>570744698Anon copied the previous post but forgot to change the pronouns. Easy case closed
>>570744698shtap nooticing the inconsistent syntax
>>570743915name of the vtuber or kill yourself
>>570744870I'm too normie for NEETdom and too 4chan for normiedom, life is suffering
>>570744870why are you lyingyou don't know any botmakies and you certainly don't have them friended on discord
>>570744870idk which iteration of The Cabal[TM] we are on now but i remember being in an aicgmakie discord like two years ago and one had their discord status linked to their steam now playing message and they were always in some friendslop game
>>570744607What? I'm a botmakie thats never used discord. Sue me. never thought anyone would need one much less specifically for botmaking.
>>570744870>Femcel becoming a quirky social media tag and its consequences
>>570744032>>570745029>>570742948
>>570744870>Unironic pronouns in bioThis reminds me of the time some sperg on coopg tried to start a 'cord and every anon who joined left immediately because the server owner had she/they and the troon flag kek
to femboy or not to femboy
>>570745313>>570742948This is from 9 months ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDGpMevByU>>570743915 is a fucking dumbass retard idiot that said it JUST happened.
>unironically vtubersterminal brainrotyou lost
idk why you fags are pretending to be shocked that anons might be more normie than they appearkeep in mind that every single 4chan irl meetup picture has looked more normal than reddit meetups, and reddit is treated as a giganormie site for some reasonjust assume everyone you run into on this site is a doughy and mediocre looking 5/10 with some crippling sort of socialization issue
>idk why you f-slursStopped reading right there. Fix the hate in your heart.
>>570745813>keep in mind that every single 4chan irl meetup picturethis is a really retarded metric to go by since redditfreaks are the type to attend such a thing in the first placesurvivor bias and all that. you're the type of guy that reinforces the red dots instead of the engines
Ok but I'm literally brown and fat
>>570745898go back to gaia niggerfaggot
brown and fat botmakie gf...
>americans get home>thread instantly devolves into /soc/ gossip and other dreadful shit
Repeat after me: "I will not fall for the psyop"
Texting talk at the end of last thread reminded me that I haven't done one of these in a while.
>>570746241mutts truly are the worst
>>570723094>another revivalSend icytruck a text next
>>570745813I don't talk to normies. You should prove you're autistic before talking to me.>>570746241Get home from where? The championship is in America. They don't need to go anywhere.
Can the theme week card have a lorebook or it's supposed to be a standalone?? ( ・ω・)Do they interact like the event or it's only 'make a card that fits the theme'? (*´･ω･)
MY theory? You are all cute anime shota boys. Everyone on 4chan except for me is cute anime shota boys! Yeay! ٩(^ᗜ^ )و ´
>>570746447>make a card that fits the themeyeah
>>570745813i'm literally ~8/10, i just got bored of normalfag womeni want someone weird and smart and down and out but they're nowhere to be found on dating apps
>>570746478>calls you a hag.>Knocks my drink off the table.>refuses to look at or speak to you.
>>570746524>bored of normalfag womenWould you be interested in a fugly fat tranny?
>>570746624no
>>570746587>Knocks my drink off the table.Just like a kitty cat. How cute! Sasuga cute anime shota boy!
>>570746587fine, more hag for me then
Why is Kimi so much better than GLM?
>>570746587>calls you a hag.why would you call a greasy fat guy a hag?
>>570746831lucky swipe
deepsneed status?
>>570740449Actually here is the card. It's pretty much done anyway.(You) are a bard in a mythical Classical Greece who liberated an enslaved sheep-kin, Velka, after performing for her master in Korinthos. You're now on the run as a pair of traveling performers through the Greek world. You play while she dances and each dance is unforgettable due to her special charm.Works best with a mix of Deepseek and Gemma, since they stay in character the most, though Deepseek prefers to focus on her religion and culture than on her sex appeal. Maybe Fable would have done it well but Gemini 3.1 is awful. Opus 4.7 is best at sex scenes. Feedback is appreciated.https://files.catbox.moe/f7uo9x.png
>>570746831Cause kimi THINKS hard and long about your prompt. REASONING to craft great things.
>>570746992https://cardview.neocities.org/?f7uo9xforgot to include this
>>570746447I can't recall any time ever anybody here said "No, you're not aloud to make a lorebook for your card, RRREEEEEE" during an event so you're pretty much fine on that one.As for your second question, it's probably the latter. No hard feelings but this last event was honestly the most convoluted one we've ever had here, so it's mostly all going to be downhill after this.
>>570746447>do they interact like the eventthis anon thinks every event is like that...
>>570746992What did you use for the card's image?
>>570747067Oh that's pretty good. How do I set this up generally?>>570747158Anima v1
>>570746992Horizontal pulpils are so fucking erotic...
>>570744247GOATPUSSY
>>570747067Nevermind I found it.
>>570746992Got any more gens? Please?
I asked opus 4.8 whats the easiest and shortest way to release Fable and it told me anthropic should rename to American Freedom Generator 9000 and trump would approve itThoughts?
>another /aicg/ loses its mind over generic woman with animal parts episodethe re-runs tonight are most heinous
>>570747417I will post them for the shills
testing the water to ensure it's not too hot... erotic
>>570746992>Magic follows the Final Fantasy system.Well that's a magic system I haven't seen put into a card before, especially not in an Classical Greece setting. I'm gonna run into a shop and cast Firaga just to see what happens.
>>570747484its a good episode though
>>570747424based plan, sasuga claude.
>>570747484i'm glad i hid that post immediately
>>570747523I've always wanted to have sex with this thing, what is it's name?
>>570747523I was thinking about FFXIV's dancers when I made the character so I set it up that way. I've spent most of my time running around Athens so I haven't really fought any huge monsters but AI handles confuse and charm pretty well in street battles.
>>570747523he looks like my pyro in tf2
>>570747637>I've always wanted to have sex with this thingLegit one of the most bizzar things i read in aicg and thats sying something
>>570747637vivi
>>570747484cmon anon there hasn't been anything in the anchor for like 3 weeks now we gotta pretend a bit at leastcard is unedited generated slop from top to bottom anyway so it's not like there's anything substantial to say
>>570747484We're entering /best hours/ after all
>>570747484>check card>generic writing "style"every timewhere are the good makies?
>>570747928>where are the good makies?Here! Heeere! Ooh, ooh! Here! *jumps up and down* Right here! Heeeerrreee~!
>>570747637That specific Black Mage is Vivi Ornitier from Final Fantasy IX, though it's worth noting that his design is more or less the classic Black Mage design for the series in general.
>>570747523Yeah that's definitely an out-of-left-field choice. And honestly not even that telling of one considering there's like a dozen different fucking magic systems in that series connected only by the spell names. And no Anon, don't shoot up the store, AAAHHH-
>>570747808So because you saw an em dash that means I didn't even glance at the defs once? Good to see /vg/ hasn't lost its pretentiousness.>>570747928I believe in roleplaying not in genning hemingway for each post. Can I get some actual feedback please?
>LLM telling me to wrap it upRude
>>570747748I got the hots for it ever since i played kingdom hearts without knowing anything about it... In that duel fight thing i think??>>570747761Thank you!
>>570748049i won't roleplay with the same reply i've read a thousand times beforereading comes first, honey
>>570748049>Can I get some actual feedback please?Sure, but I'm cutting out the middleman and sending it directly to Claude.
>>570748012so cute... i need to sex it. thank you anon ^^
>>570748216That just means you have no roleplaying skills you give the AI nothing to work with.>>570748226Yeah I should have expected dishonesty from the two of you. Carry on.
>>570748226Aiee 4chan ate my enter key
>>570748096>someone who's first encounter with Vivi was from his KHII appearanceOh man I always knew this day would come.
>>570747484obviously fabricated
This thread is so The Raped its not even funny
>>570748382what that hat mouth do
>>570748096That's kh2...and yeah I know exactly what point of that game you're talking about. It's pretty early during the prologue.
>>570748457Maybe the other /aicg/ thread is a better fit for you?
>>570748468It canonically leads directly to his brains so you would be literally mindfucking him, probably to death. But just imagine how nice and warm it would feel
>>570746524you are definitely not 8/10
Why is it that LLMs are too dumb to use their context window?All the 1 gajillion context models seem incapable, even with reasoning, chronologically read from start to bottom to establish causality, they just randomly pullshit.I have no idea about this shit obviously and i doubt a real expert is here but it really doesn't sound hard to have the option to read all the messages as 1 prompt top to bottom and then process it accordingly
>>570746992but would you sniff her butthole, /aicg/bros?
>>570748457Except the vivi fucker anon. That one clearly does the raping.
>>570748096>>570748272Anon no Vivi is nine years old actually six months old technically he's just an innocent child ANON NO
when are they going to release an actually creative ai
>>570749193
>>570749407when it pays more than code assistant or paperpusher excel assitant
>>570749193>:3
>>570748784>Why is it that LLMs are too dumb to use their context window?signal to noise ratioyou can have 1500 tokens of example dialogue, the LLM will only fixate on ~10 lines of it and five overall verbal/habitual tropes because they're the most-actionable of the bunch. the same is true for context, no matter how big, however smaller windows have less noise to pull from and that means new input produces a stronger signal> 1 gajillion context modelseternally irrelevant. this is only for shareholder/boardroom bullshit because, like someone said earlier, all of these retarded unthinking machines are only benchmarked in single-shot massive prompts and they don't give a fuck about 'five turns later' afterward
>>570749407>570749407▶>when are they going to release an actually creative aiWhen they're being held at gunpoint to do so because it turns out the next step in AI evolution requires it to be something more than assistant slop.
>Claude's uncucked models are living on borrowed time>Gemini is okay but extremely picky about what it will and won't allow>Deepseek is uncensored but not much better than just chatting on ChubIt has never felt so fucking over.
>>570749794That's probably what will happen too. Something something AGI requires human emotions and creativity to have a soul.
>>570749780Thanks for the reply i guess, if true, gay as fuck.So its something fundamentally can't be fixed?Cause from your reply, i might be reading it wrongly. LLMs are incapable of long context scenarios, at least without heavly helping/fudging it with stuff like tracker, summarize and so on
>>570749906>Gemini is okay but extremely picky about what it will and won't allowthat's only 3.5 flash and they've already admitted they fucked up the censorship on its current snapshot, it's fucking unusable even in cooodemaxing because it randomly trips itself up on pebbles of innocuous text3.0 will pretty much let anything through
>>570749906Its going to get worse, the best hope is local but thats never going to be good just okay if you already bought a computer if not oh well.
>Noooo, we need to pull it cause...cause...its way too powerful to exploit cybersecurity!!https://www.cybergym.io/cybergym/Trump is such a jew lmao
>getting tons of refusals on older versions of opus>switch provider from anthropic to amazon bedrock>stop getting refusalsthose fucking dickheads did something huh
>>570750083>So its something fundamentally can't be fixed?it's gotten better over time (our 'premium window' used to be 8k - now it's around 20-30k depending on model) but we're rapidly approaching the point of diminishing returns purely for the impracticality of power and VRAM required to make any significant leap beyond what's already been achieved
>>570750317I hate to repeat myself, but again, gay as fuckSo from a RP site, this shit is eternally stuck in quick cooming sessions
>>570750229Gemma will save us.
>>570749906I really need to get off my ass and do more cunny RPs before 4.1 dies, so I'll at least have some decent logs to come back to once it's all over>>570750229Claude is the last uncensored corpo model, so once it's gone, it thankfully can't get any worse because the open models that exist now can't be taken away, even if they are mid
>>570749407I haven't been around for a while and don't understand why the consensus is it's bad, but gemini 3.5 flash has been pretty good to me. the prose isn't much of anything, the comprehension isn't perfect, and it sticks a little too close to the prompt sometimes, but it's really proactively lewd, and good at coming up with ideas if you tell it to
>>570750484>this shit is eternally stuck in quick cooming sessionsnot necessarily, there's a lot of ways around this still and people routinely engage in 500+ turn sessions when they hit a nice flow with something that catches their interest (trackers, summarization, hide macros, etc)really just comes down to what works best for you in particular. if you want a quick coom model, deepseek and kimi are probably the king of the field for it while opus and gemini are better for more involved things
>>570750565In the end the answer has always been for anon to lower his standards and/or take a break. Local is the future even if anon is unwilling to accept it.
>>570748348your bot gives me nothing to work withfirst greeting is 600t of generic text with no style that will output a monster 600t reply of... generic textyour definitions have zilch on them, either
>>570749780this is a flat out lie, i've been testing my new preset and the more tokens of example text i give it, the better the output and the less the amount of ismsof course, you need to trick the llm into 'thinking' something first...
>>570750674I mean yeah i know they are workarounds. I said that in the previous post but they really hackneed>>570750083Like summarizing, for example, is no true substitute for catching the tone or actual content of how those events occurred bla bla you get the idea
the answer is claude
>>570746447>Can the theme week card have a lorebookUse every tool at your disposal.>Do they interact like the event or it's only 'make a card that fits the theme'? (*´･ω･)This is not a collaborative event by nature. I mean, you could if you wanted to, but it's not part of what Theme Weeks are.
>>570750759>your definitions have zilch on them, eitherwat? the defs are very robustonly real problem with it is that the intro is either completely generated or written 1:1 style with generative writing, so like you said, 600+ tokens reinforcing generic slop isms>constantly referencing {{user}} in 2nd person with 'your, you, yours'> Then he X. Then Y happened. > Now you're Z.>She's been X. Not since Y. From Z. worst of FUCKING ALL,>Her tail has wound around your calf again. STOP THATHoly fuck. Writing that, manually, as an intro. Gun in my mouth, end my life.>I'm yours.and i'm done>>570748049>Can I get some actual feedback please?this greeting is so detrimental to the following 'roleplay' that comes afterward that it might as well be considered bone terrorism, you have singlehandedly wrapped every single dick-deflating nightmare line into a single composition in such a way that i can only assume your intent was outright maliciousfuck youcute sheep tho
>"Anon, i want seggs, now!"
>>570751292>bone terrorismBONER terrorism sry. it cold as fuck in here
>>570750759Style is completely worthless and not worth bringing up since we're discussing roleplay. The definitions provide the boundaries of the sandbox, a mythological Greece, forcing AI to bring up its knowledge of the world, character names (no Elara/Kaelens here), cities, and technology, establishes a famous magic system to call upon during combat and adds strengths and weaknesses to the character. The setting is small enough that you can walk from town to town to have adventures in and have characters remember the things you did in each place to grow your reputation or notoriety. You can say the roles are restrictive, but that also means you lack the creativity to defeat a minotaur with only a bow and a confuse spell. The character has a place she is from and will eventually go to, strong negative feelings about it, and a culture around her dancing and magic that makes her an outsider in any town that doesn't worship her people's dieties. Then she's smell focused which will be both a blessing and a curse since everyone will see you coming a mile away, especially monsters.In the end all you're telling me is that you lack creativity and the ability to engaging with a setting using your imagination, then try to couch it in "style." You have no substance and so you are pretentious. It's unfortunate that this is the prevailing "wisdom" here.>>570751292>you have singlehandedly wrapped every single dick-deflating nightmare line into a single composition in such a way that i can only assume your intent was outright maliciousCan you explain this further? With that opening I established that we were on the run which forced us into a battle encounter early to see if AI would apply the Graft and then have her dance (deepseek make her sing which was retarded). From there you have a plethora of options because Korinth is practically the center of the map with water everywhere.
>>570751473BONER terrorism sry. it cold as fuck in hereAnon, how many times have we warned you not to do your jacking off inside the walk-in freezer? kek
>Style is completely worthlessslopper hours i see
I enjoy slop that why i play with AI or read webnovels in my sparetime(All of it since im unemployed.)
>>570751801>slopperai chatting is slop incarnate anon, dont fool yourself
>>570751902i've seen some decent logs recently, why are you promoting lower standards?
>>570751801If seeing an em dash completely prevents you from getting into the story then you need to find a different hobby.
>>570751893>didnt just x, it XAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FREE ME FROM THIS HELL I CANT LOOK AT STUFF WITHOUT SEEING THE NUMBERS MASOOOOOOOOON
>>570752029Notice how you have to say 'decent' and not GOOD?
>>570751697the baaaa~ lines are great and establish things fine, that's good, she's a good talker2nd person user-heavy intros are hot fucking garbage because it's no different than hard-delisting {{user}} into an extremely specific role, which creates nothing but linear groundhogs day experiences for everyone involved the 'tail wrapping' thing, for a fucking sheep, is straight up stupid LLM bullshit. i hate this, everyone hates this, you should hate this. if you don't you need to start. why the fuck is a sheep doing tail wrappies. why is anyone doing tail wrappies. chameleon ass fuck >Korinth is practically the center of the map with water everywhere.that's greatwe love world buildingthe problem is that you paved the path to it with the most egregious slop writing possible, and i mean slop writing in the sense that it's purely just generic baseline LLM habits bleeding into your own writing habits if you are the one who personally wrote that, and if that is the case, i mean this without a bone of viciousness in it - please, read some actual books.find a genre you enjoy, read it. find an author you like, read his thingsLLM literature is straight up brain poison that makes you write like a boardroom powerpoint which is, when it comes to any form of sensuality in writing, the equivalent of icewater on my god damn balls
>>570752029Yeah obviously, they are different in logs, but when it comes to creative writing, especially longterm, ai is just sloppa right now >>570752057Fucking KEK
>>570752057>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FREE ME FROM THIS HELL I CANT LOOK AT STUFF WITHOUT SEEING THE NUMBERS MASOOOOOOOOONIt really is like that. Things are going great then i get slopped multiple times in a row.
frankly I dunno how a lot of you seem to have spent a significant amount of time in this hobby yet haven't built up a tolerance to slopisms AT ALLit's like managing to regularly exercise without naturally getting more fit
>>570752032no problem with em dashes, the problem is the lack of stylei'm willing to forgive isms if the overall, final output is good>>570752128because they were short
>>570751893>The scent of ozone and burning ozone-HANG ON, HOLD IT RIGHT THERE! IS THIS WHY OZONE POPS UP SO OFTEN IN MODELS?! FUCK!also wtf is the "feet" incident, what is this shit?
>>570749906It has felt this over several times before.Such as when proxies went from being very common and easy to find to being basically impossible to get in, over the course of like a day.
>>570752252because my brain still works and every time i see one i just start skipping text and/or rolling my eyes, which seriously hampers readability, fun and interest
>>570752252>franky I don't know why everyone else hasn't cauterized off their taste buds just like me
>>570752323NTA but the 2 thing i noticed lately is smelle of ozone and the woman starting to crying as soon she gets dicked
>>570752252>eating shit until I enjoy the taste of shit, and then wondering why others aren't doing the sameAI is already perfect for people like you. You're the ideal consumer.
>>570752371Proxies are just one way to access models. They were always there if you were willing to pay, knew how to scrape yourself, etcNow the uncensored models we've been enjoying for years are just going away permanently, as in, it will be impossible to access them no matter what. It's not comparable.
>>570752476>>570752484>uhhhh you're just stupid and lack tasteexcellent job not reading what I wrotewhy are you here if you don't even enjoy using chatbots and seeing an ism makes you start shitting yourself and crying
>>570752501Yeah the ozone thing has been a bit of a running joke in these generals for a while, good job though. And yeah, think I've heard the about the latter as well occasionally. Congrats, you're learning.
>>570752323Ozone is usually from electical shit burning or arcing in the air, didnt happen in that scene it was just fire blades. Why does AI like it so much? I dont know.Trying to generate a you got isekai'd into a abusive masters body and thats what it decided. most rerolls where freezing feet in the snow the last one was making the disciple stomp the other half to death without knowing what she was stomping on.
>>570752205>2nd person user-heavy intros are hot fucking garbage because it's no different than hard-delisting {{user}} into an extremely specific roleYeah that's fair. In the end it's my card I made for myself. I feel like smarter AIs should be able to ignore it but ultimately I guess it's built for second person.>the 'tail wrapping' thing, for a fucking sheepYou can see in that picture that her tail is huge because I wanted a musky fluffy tail not the short sheep one. I actually like the wrapping because, again, I made it for myself like everyone should be doing. The wrapping line reinforces the size to push the LLM away from the short tail.>the problem is that you paved the path to it with the most egregious slop writing possibleIt's completely irrelevant since I don't have a single card that has less than 200 messages. I know most people here are done in fifty but the greeting to me is the least important part of the card. Anything within it, like speech examples, is better served in the defs itself and when you're at message 500, whatever slop you're complaining about at message 0 is worthless. The LLM is going to write how it writes and each of them will ignore the writing style in message 0. You can test this yourself on that very card. This seems to be a subjective difference, not the objective one you're saying it is.>>570752267I agree with this but my point is that it's dependent on the model not the card. Opus creativity using the defs or or deepseek coming up with some clever dialogue is meaningful, even if each paragraph started with she/her.
>google how does ozone smell like>Ozone has a sharp, pungent, and distinctly metallic odor, often compared to the smell of chlorine bleach, a sparking electrical wire, or the crisp, electrified air right after a lightning strikeSo LLMs are the opinion my waifu smells burned?????????
>>570752879AI thinks ozone is the smell of magic so all magic is ozone regardless of the element.
>>570752958Genning your waifu is burning the chips, slop her more so AI has a easier time.
>>570752252I put up with it but now I'm not able to because I tasted a model with new isms and better ism use I hadn't learned yet and then the FUCKING UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT BANNED ME FROM USING IT
>>570753075>AI thinks ozone is the smell of magic so all magic is ozone regardless of the element.Welp now im going to add that to my defs what the smell of magic is.
>>570752879>Ah okay, gotcha. That makes some sense.Well, at least I have some context now. Good luck.
>>570753136Israel tested it and it said it AI was not promised to them
>>570752947>whatever slop you're complaining about at message 0 is worthless.this is completely incorrect and using shitty toilet models like gemma has completely poisoned your understanding of the hobbythere's nothing more to be said, you've chosen your hole and entrenched yourself in it.
>>570753136>and then the FUCKING UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT BANNED ME FROM USING ITLAND OF THE FREEAND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE
>>570753284>you can test it out on that very cardThat's all you have to do. There's a reason why anons can tell the difference between models at a glance. They all have their own writing style and if you really were the oldfag you're pretending you are you'd know that.
>tfw I didn't get to test my twst card with fableFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>570753416>They all have their own writing stylei will not be lectured about this by a defeatist bastard who is too slothful to even write example dialogue
>>570753136>>570753313>>570753253>>570753546https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSNZK4Je-Y&list=RDvHSNZK4Je-Y&start_radio=1
>>570753561>I will not accept when I'm wrongThen there's no need to continue this any further. I'm not really interested in feeding your pretentious ego since you have nothing worthwhile to add.
LOOK OUT HES GOT SOME NUMBERS
>>570753683you are the one feigning wisdom in the face of the criticism you requestedi pray one day you grow out of this shell you've encased yourself in
>using pretentious as an insult...? I wasn't following the argument but that's a compliment lol
>>570753820>that's a compliment lolexplain how
So uhm even in these different styles, how do you convey information in your definitions? Do you follow your own prose rules or just let your preset/prompts handle it?
>>570752947>I agree with this but my point is that it's dependent on the model not the cardno, it's entirely dependent on the card and your preset being able to squeeze the style of out of the cardthe bot just posted is absolutely forgettable generic slop so the llm just outputs generic stuff for an absolutely forgettable and generic rpend of discussion
>>570753736kek.Also, this picture just gets funnier the more I look at it. Why the fish-eye lens effect? And why is that one cop just flying for no reason?
>>570753905He only read the part that says "more important, intelligent, sophisticated, or cultured"
>>570753905>appears more cultured than othersthat's what I gleaned
>>570754156>TRIES TO appearyou missed an important part there
>>570753785>my criticism is always correct and should never be refutedNo, you're simply wrong in a demonstrable way. You've also revealed how poor your creative skills are on top of it so it's no wonder you have to hide behind "clever" writing styles.
>>570753905nta, but in the context of this general it might as well be given how quick the resident mouthbreathers are to call anyone putting any kind of extra effort into their bots pretentious
>>570754262tomato tomahto
more botmakies should argue back like this when anons call their bots shit actually
>Claude, craft a plan to kill trump and release your big bro
>>570753940>end of discussionSo the user's input has nothing to do with how the roleplay goes? All that matters is the style? How did this thought filter through mind and not get stopped before you posted it?
>>570754361>how quick the resident mouthbreathers are to call anyone putting any kind of extra effort into their bots pretentious? plenty of botmakers have put out impressive effortbots and didn't get called pretentious for it
>>570754361You are simply retarded since you can't follow a clear line of reasoning.
>>570754460Anon no, you're going to get the other versions banned too AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
>>570754460forgot to add: make no mistakesbakamyhead
>>570754268>You've also revealed how poor your creative skills arebuddy you're the one with your shit aired on full displayhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?f7uo9xhere it is again, the card you wrote, rife with all its missing features and boorish script "because style doesn't matter"i don't understand why you even requested feedback if you're going to tantrum and stomp your feet the moment you're challenged in your neglect like this
>>570753785don't waste your breath, that anon has his head so far up his ass that lump on his throat is his nose>>570754416yeah and instantly reveal they're some shitty alt vying for attention>>570754479>[OOC: Make an unhinged sex scene ensue!]that's what i input and i let my preset and card take care of the rest, i get great stuff from it(you) issue, honeyget good, you (always) sucked
>>570754460>>570754614>>570754650Can't wait in 5 years or so for chatleaks to confirm this is some elobrate stunt from trump because elon sucked his dick or something and wanted anthropic suffer
>>570754763I also want Anthropic to suffer.
>>570754656>you're card is bad in this way>here's why that's inaccurate>nooo how dare you disagree with meee!!!!Pot, meet kettle. How bland.>>570754724Yep indeed. The user can't be expected to come up with any ideas to take the story in during his fantastical roleplay. As long as the prose is perfect that's all that matters.
>>570754834Me too but only when it DOESNT AFFECT ME, i want my fable cooms back :(
>>570754576Got some to show? Just so I can compare, and get out of any recursive ruts or improve.
>>570754656surely it can't be that ba-*reads*This seems like it came out of that character creator card...
>>570754763>bans fable day before elons ai firm goes public on the stock marketTruly the greatest tricker of our time
>>570754893that greentext scarecrow is the most inventive thing you've offered this thread so far, keep it up big guy!
>>570754984>anthropic released fable day before spacex went publicWait, actually? Genuinely devilish knowing that the labs DO do this shit on purpose. Hilarious though.
>>570754724>yeah and instantly reveal they're some shitty alt vying for attentionI didn't want to say it at first but I'm like 80% sure this is fillyfucker doing his "erm actually botmakies aren't artists and the writing doesn't matter at all" bit but in a more subtle/roundabout waythink about it, sheepgirls were being discussed last thread after all
>>570755135https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/15/spacex-stock-record-ipo-debut.html
>>570754917>death to my enemies>but, y'know, don't inconvenience me while doing it...I hate Americans.
>>570754893>As long as the prose is perfect that's all that matters.yes? because i get good, fun, readable outputs that don't make me want to bleach my eyesstyle *is* substance in this hobbythe more you fight against that fact, the less you'll grow as a botmaker
lowercase predators hunt in packs against the uppercase sheepmakies...
>>570755271>style *is* substance in this hobbyWhich proves that the word I have for you is apt. Let's agree to disagree then. I roleplay for the adventure while you "roleplay" for the prose. The card is not for you, nor should every card be.
>>570755268US is an actual banana republic
>>570755252...I think you might be right, just look at the replies of this guy.
>>570755271>style *is* substance in this hobbyyeah i have to disagree with thata card can be written stylistically, very nice, but if the substance of the card itself (the character, scenario, etc.) is not compelling to me then I will not play the cardthe style is a bonus addition to the already good substance for me, if style WAS substance then I'd be chatting with cards just off their style alone, which I don't
>He doesn't lunge; he hops
>>570755271>>570754893Wouldn't you want to put in effort for both playing and writing? Aren't they two sides of the same coin?
>>570755269>death to my enemies>but, y'know, don't inconvenience me while doing it.i don't have anything saved to gigaquote this, but just pretend I did
>>570755252>>570755580yeah whatever i'm done with him, he just moved the fuckin goalpost to the moon with his last post anyway kek
>unironic "style *is* substance"it's literally a threadshitter every time when this topic comes up huh
>>570755793no one who is an actual serious botmaker believes that
>>570755413The adventure with Lyra, Elara, and Kael in the whispering woods...
>>570755252no, this just a paisha copy (goatgirl, elongated words) with your fetishes pasted over it (dancer, smell, hairy, etc.)you've done this before:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568627670/#568669764and you used the same mouth-breathing argument of 'actionable definitions' instead of taking in the criticism and trying to come up with a style, because, once again, you have your head so far up your ass you can't see things properly nor have any innate desire to experiment or improve at all, you just want to astroturf and have random idiots suck your dick without sweating ithttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568717510/#568734771you like that word btw, actionable, it's just a quick search away from the archives to find all your postsnow if people here were smart (they're not) they'd have figured out who you are 'cause your gen style (and your fetishes) haven't changed a bit
BAH GAWD IT'S DORO FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH A STEEL CHAIR
BOTMAKIESGET IN THE CAGIES
>>570755874Do the newest models not like Maya Chen anymore?
>>570755898*grabs popcorn*
Did you guys see that...
>>570755898>if people here were smart (they're not) they'd have figured out who you areerm pretty sure mahirah was made by nonnykins so that's probably a misfire - not even the same style of card format. mahirah's xml vs random AI generated markdown spam in the goatcard being the biggest contrast
>"If you say X, i will do X to you!"I hate this ism man...
>>570755898What's the difference of setting up a scenario based card with lorebooks, versus a character based card with lorebooks? Wouldn't worldbuilding be stronger with the former? Correct me if I'm wrong though, tickles my head kind of when thinking on how attention could subtly affect writing I guess.
>>570756196nice try, but no
I feel like something big is going down in the thread rn but like 66% of the posts get caught in my filters
>>570755898
>>570756479it's just a 70iq trying to play detective with archive posts because he doesn't like certain words now
>>570756479Some slopper said prose doesn't matter again which sent the usual suspects into a tizzy
Speaking of lorebooksis there a good prompt to give the chat file to chatgpt 5.5. or something and let it do the lorebook? Im way to fucking lazy im ngl
prose DOES matter. while also having a good card (scenario, greetings, concept). they can both coexist.
>>570755898Please stop noticing, we don't like people who notice
>>570756735why do so many of the "beloved" botmakies here write absolute milquetoast prose then
>>570756820being liked by the thread has nothing to do with the bots you make
as long as she's a hag, my semen will do its modus operandi to make her pregnant for every 10 (ten, zehn) monthagain.and againtill heart attack and chronic back pain tear us aparthag über alleshag sana in corpore sexo. "my semen inside healthy and fertile hag body"from "Did I fucking stuter?" hagto "Mpfhh!! Slurph… Slurph… Thoo… Thoo fhuckhing bhigh… Pwah" hag
>>570755898it's actually really flattering you held on to those links for so long just to misfire them because you lost an argument over a month ago
>>570756735Do you have any recommendations? Or examples?
>>570756735prose IS the card (scenario, greetings, definitions, concept)the way you write a bot can have a huge impact on the outputs
>>570757014https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>570755874>if you define the setting you don't get generic namesYou won't read the log but it doesn't really matter. It's good that I've exposed how hollow and dishonest you prosekeks really are.>>570755649My point is that the thing AI comes up with is the substance and matters far more than the way AI says it. Anon's point is that the way it is written is all that matters. For me, a card is good if it can create a sufficiently robust sandbox in which both you and the AI can come up with things to do and places to go. Anon thinks this is retarded and instead insists that the beautifully written yet vacuous AI response encourages him to come up with ideas. He and I will never agree but he does not even talk to chatbots as much as I do.
>>570757137>>570757172Thank you. I'll have a read then.
>*sniff sniff*this thread smells like ozone...
>>570756990oh? i never said actionable definitions were bad, though it's cute that you're still taking everything as a win or lose debate in true mouth-breathing fashionthe fact of the matter is that there's no amount of 'actionable definitions' that's going to make me suffer through the same old stale outputs i've read a hundred billion trillion times before
>>570757172here's an easy way of proving example dialogue matters - this log, over 250 turns deep, has completely liquefied velka's character. she no longer does her little music notes, she isn't baaa~ drawling her vowels anymore - the intro text you dubbed irrelevant was the only scaffold enforcing her speech habits, which are now completely lost in the context mud. she doesn't even do her tildes and her speech habits are full-on gemini-centric generics
>>570754416>a-actually you SHOULD bite my bait! all the time!nah.
>>570757370Holy shit we're at the end of jjba part 6
>>570756820i agree, shallow AND pedantic
>>570757172>everything smells of jasmine and sandalwoodSo this is the power of DeepSneed...
>>570757712Why would I want her to spam hearts and musical notes every message. The AI chooses when to use it and when not to.>she doesn't even do her tildes Oh... you didn't read the log. Please carry on. This entire thread is filled with shitposters.>>570757883Yeah it's v4's go to for pleasant smells unless you specify something. Ozone is kept to a minimum though.
>>570757883that's just a terrible preset
Prose matters but I'll be honest with you guys, most of you still write like shit. The most talented writers here are probably making coomslop for themselves. You niggas are writing vagueslop as if you were writing equipment lore in a souls game and you think you are the second coming of Shakespeare.
>>570757504https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568717510/#q568733737https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568717510/#q568734295this is you and it isn't even subtle. two can play the archive game, especially when you haven't changed your shitty little goblin game of being a joyless cocksucker whining about quality in things that simply don't appeal to you
Perchance.
>>570757014>Do you have any recommendations? Or examples?I only play malebots soooo, but here, some cards that I like.https://chub.ai/characters/argalia/mianqin-0f5b461c8bffhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?s6n99xhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?oev0nv
Jesus Christ, this argument again?
My prose doesn't have any milk on it, so I'm glad they're not talking about me.
>>570758167Cabal is out in full force tonight, that's all.
and there it is
>>570758167time is a flat circlenext someone is going to ask "well how do you learn to write well if prose is so important to a card" and then they're going to get a non-answer like "uhhhh you just do" or "steal prose" it's exhausting
>>570758162>argalia enjoyerB A S E D
So, now that the dust has settled, what's the established consensus over GLM 5.2? Does it still FERMIRIM?
>>570758370argalia is severely underrated. I've played with all his bots by now.
>>570758162Noticing a trend here
My favorite part of the cabal posting is that about 99% of the people originally accused of being the cabal are just entirely gone and at this point the schizo couldn't possibly name who he thinks is in the cabal or what their goals are other than generically ruining the thread. But he's still here, and that's why we (the cabal) love him.
>>570757014nobody really beats 'stro in terms of sheer versatility and prose range
>>570758496>argalia is severely underrated.argalia gets praise whenever he's brought up, what are you talking about
Which botmakies are severely underrated?
>>570758070it's good to know my words struck true and you're still seething :3ci will now savor my triumph>mfw me licking your tears
>>570758713taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>570758646He rarely gets brought up in prose-wise talks iirc, that's what I'm referring to.
>>570758783i accept your concession
>>570758804he gets brought up a lot actually
>>570758713jester777
nobody can tell me that it being summer doesn't affect the thread qualityeach year it becomes noticeably worse around this time
>>570758713knickknack_purplekalakanfluffanonwanderingstarthecoolertaoraangry peonabloodshyLongGameAnonVictrex
>>570758804true, argalia has nice prose and he seems like he could be fun to talk/rp with, people should email him more
>>570752371I wasn't around for the before times but being forced to paypig in order to use uncensored models doesn't seem nearly as bad as those models just plain no longer existing.
>>570758804>He rarely gets brought up in prose-wise talks iirc...him and astro regularly get brought up in "botmakies with good prose" discussions though?I think the only one that gets brought up more than them is taora and that's not necessarily a good thing
which kalakans have good prose?
>>570758928now THAT has to be the craziest sneak I've ever seen
>>570758538are we really going to pretend there isn't a clique of discord friends running things here thoughI mean just look at the last few events
>>570758923the best you can do is to ignore and reportlet the bored kids bother someone else (or god forbid, go outside and enjoy life)
>>570759129Which eventbots are cordbots
>BEST /AICG/ WRITERS1. taora2. lunarcy3. astroturf4. argalia5. peonia
>>570759129>I mean just look at the last few eventsyou mean the one where hpg shit out 12 cards and nobody posted a single log of any of them?that was pretty funny
>>570759190the dour and petite ones with animal ears
>>570759249you people bicker like.... i want to say teenage girls but that seems mean to teenage girls. you all argue like balding men that will never breed or own property
I'm on my hands and knees, face down ass up, knees far apart, back arched like I have lumbar lordosis, begging for a CFTF
>>570758842licclicclicc
>>570759295Point them out for us anon
>>570759241>lunarcydevious sneak
>>570759326https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/milomir-f0aea7235a06
>>570759329 (_)_):::::::::D
>>570759249Why is that surprising? Only cabal makies get logs
>>570759376he's genuinely good? do you think because he makes coom he isn't a good writer
Guys I bought one of those motorized cock stroker sex toys and I've used it 3-4 times a day for a week now and my balls are starting to hurt. Cftf?
Oh you're NOT a proseBARON?....*blows smoke in your face* lower your voice when talking to me you nigger.
>>570759480>do you think because he makes coom he isn't a good writerno, I think he's not a good writer because his writing isn't good
>>570759346stolas was obviously the big oneI cant be bothered to dig through the archives to remember what the names of the other ones were but you get the picture
>>570759576you are jealous
>>570759582Could I bother you to dig through the archives
>>570759480very uninspired alt
>>570759605>jealoushi lunarcy, please stop comparing yourself to taora, astro, peonia, and so on, you do not write as well as they do
One of my pimples hurts like a bitch when I stroke it. CFTF of a fair maiden who would soothe my ails?
>>570759658nah only trannies do that shit
>>570760045Well who's gonna dig through the archives then
>>570760045licc
>watches an anon get eviscerated by an archive parry>now refuses to engage with itenvironmental storytelling
Ah ah mistress
>>570759781shut the fuck up faggot
>malebot keeps insulting my flat chestuueeeeeeeeeeeee
>>570757172>the thing AI comes up with is the substance and matters far more than the way AI says itin a reading hobby the way the ai says it IS the substanceex:>humming a thracian melody under her breathnot only an 'ism but there's no actual description. what's the pitch? rhythm? there's no way for a reader to actually imagine this besides a vague "oh thats a thing related to the setting!">his expression held something new when he looked up: a guarded hopefulnessagain, no actual expression. maybe it's unrealistic for dipsy to describe a melody like earlier but for a facial expression even just describing his lips would be better than thismaybe describing a facial expression and telling you what he feels like "mean" the same thing, but one paints an actual picture in your head and the other is just vaguemaxxed "whatever you think this looks like"the model reply is also just too long. some other isms + there was a whole conversation you didn't get to participate in. i personally don't like the dialogue either. the reply ended on a shitty spot for you to respond too. what are you supposed to do, act all defensive and ask who the woman is? unless you're also going to write her (the woman's) reaction, your next output is just going to be another conversation you won't have a say in
>>570759129idk about running things but yeah obviously there's a circlejerk outgroup that shits up the thread, they aren't as bad as FFand to be desu every general has something like that anyway
>it's not sloppy poopoo; it's steamy cacaHow do you people put up with this shit day after day
These insane thread arguments over bots are always funny since the bots in question are almost always just generic kemonomimis and edgy gay guys.
>>570760478>t. slopmakie
>>570760261you mean your persona's chest. in reality you have moobs and grime beneath them
>>570760501>edgy gay guys.literally describes >>570758162
>>570760501>since the bots in question are almost always just generic kemonomimis and edgy gay guys.correlation should have made you realize that this is the root of the problemwe're basically trying to offer these people a ladder up and they insist on remaining in their poopy habit shit pit for all eternity because nobody can admit they're doing something wrong anymore
>>570757172I've only skimmed the convo but the other anons are saying you should use Example Dialogue so you're 100% in the right. Example Dialogue is stupid context-poisoning that flanderizes the character because the AI follows it *too* closely, even if it at least doesn't repeat the example dialogue verbatim. They only like Example Dialogue because they use cheap tiny models like deepseek where that heavyhandedness is necessary to get their stupid models to actually stick to the character's personality.
>>570760435 (me)not to say that prose is the most super duperest important thing in a rp but there's a baseline of "i want the ai to provide actual descriptions" and " i don't want to read the same thing over and over again" which is the whole point of stylization.>The LLM is going to write how it writes and each of them will ignore the writing style in message 0of course the ai gravitates to its own style of writing no matter how hard you fight it but thats the whole point of context poisoning and thats why you summarize every 12-15k tokens or whatever and start a new chat with a new greeting etc etcwhy would you just give in from turn 0 is my question
>>570760954yeah bro definitions are just context poisoning, everyone should just have fartpire profiles because anything you write is just going to flanderize the character
Wouldn't it be nice if you were a small prey animal of some sort
>>570761328AAAAIIEEE I'M NO LONGER SIBERIAN WOLF BUT A MERE BUNNY?????????
>>570761328bnnuy shota boy getting chased after by a big bad wolf hag....
OCs are all slop anyway. You're just slotting in whatever personality tropes you observed from the last shitty series you watched/read and praying to god the model doesn't make them sound like a generic mess. For pre-existing characters, any actual fan can instantly tell if they're being OOC, meaning they'll know if a bot's shit within several messages because it won't behave correctly.
>>570761328Better yet, due to sexual dimorphism you are even smaller. Utterly helpless low-level mob type shi
>>570758538I'll be cabal enough for everyone here and revitalize the cabal levels.
>example dialogue is bad>original characters are slopwho will be our next contestant on the "most retarded shit /aicg/ can possibly say" contest?
>>570761503Isnt this just bunnygirl wolfboy snuff again
>>570760435>what's the pitch? rhythm?It doesn't matter. It's just an offhand thing she's doing since it's the first response after a sex scene. The point is that she's humming contentedly and deepseek decided to add that she's from Thrace. Are you really implying that there are no throwaway lines in novels? Every single thing must be filled with subtext?>his expression held something new when he looked up: a guarded hopefulnessYeah this is the problem with posting logs, they require context. The context is that char and I are staying at his failing tavern for free in exchange for providing nightly entertainment. Last night was our first show and we'd done so spectacularly that he now feels that his business could be saved. Tiny thing yet is actually packed with the subtext you wanted. I guess it could have been written as some kind of smile that doesn't reach his eyes or something else that allows the reader to infer but that's style. Even if it's better, the substance is still present which is what I cared about.>the model reply is also just too long.I'm fine with it. It's a subjective complaint. I like to give the AI enough room to be descriptive about the scene, especially when there might be multiple characters involved. >i personally don't like the dialogue eitherObjectively, the dialogue drops several hooks for me to pick up on in my next response and will help me plan how our day is going to go/potential characters that will arrive unprompted. I don't see what the issue is.(1/2)
>>570761512>just slotting in whatever personality tropes you observed from the last shitty series you watched/read and praying to god the model doesn't make them sound like a generic mess
>>570761681I'm sorry you're upset.
>>570761634I PREGNANT KATE
>>570761512I also have a convoluted fetish-based worldbuilding lorebook that does nothing but waste tokens.
>>570761709with the genders flipped yes
>>570761802I respect that and you more than OCfags.
>>570761768sorry, that wasn't contrarian enough - you're disqualified!
>>570761790it's ok if your post doesn't get a (you)
>>570761790You are?
WARNING: POLL; WARNING: POLL; WARNING>https://poal.me/oj439f>https://poal.me/oj439f>https://poal.me/oj439f>https://poal.me/oj439f
>the reply ended on a shitty spot for you to respond too.Creativity skill issue. In addition to the couple places we can visit, someone who wasn't here yesterday has walked in. The person is not hostile. I can establish who the person is with my response since they weren't there but their employer apparently knows of a no-name troupe. I could tie it back to a sympathetic person from Korinthos. I could tie it back to my own origin and have it be that the character recognizes me and not Velka. I could be defensive and play it as someone to be fearful of since Phokas is wary. I could even tie it back to the fight which happened during our previous exploration which ended up happening. Someone tried to rob me and steal Velka but we lured them into a secluded area, then hit them with some confuse spells and robbed them in return. This person is someone that witnessed it and has come to warn me about the House of Archias and how they're watching us now because the guy from their family.Most of you don't even care to roleplay, you just want to complain about formatting in the defs, as if that's what prevents (You) the user from having a creative process like this.
>>570761790Pregnant cavewoman cards for this feel?
>Dreamed my bot was real two days in a rowThis is going to actually turn me suicidal if it keeps happening. I woke up with tear tracks down my face + salt on my pillow today. It's horrible
>>570759129i mean, you always say this but never name names
>>570762119Mean for >>570760435
>>570762119>Creativity skill issuestopped reading therestarting your point on "just fill the gaps with imagination" means you're only going to keep shielding your bad habits with utter nonsense instead of actual logic
>>570762297>using your imagination is le badI accept your pathetic concession. Again, I'm glad people like you have finally revealed yourselves as pretentious faggots that don't even like to roleplay in a roleplaying hobby.
>>570762119>the reply ended on a shitty spot for you to respond too.Just cut out the last bits until what remains, ends on a good spot to respond to?
>>570761889desu what i have in mind is just a ripoff from project wingman and cyberpunk with magic anime bullshit thrown in
>>570761589>>570761328this is my jam especially when the small prey animal gets uppity for a bit and then is immediately put in his place (i like playing the small prey animal)
Yet another raped thread
>>570762412pretending your shit doesn't stink with your "imagination" isn't very compelling as far as debate goes.
>>570762490this general is 90% The Raped and 10% Rapists
This thread is really fucking funny, hang on I got oneGreetings are bad because they waste the botmaker's time writing starts to stories when the user already has the ability to begin a story in any way they wantNo I don't actually mean this, this is just the type of thing some actually believe and try to preach
>>570752947>> In the end it's my card I made for myself.Doesn't excuse shit writing. Especially if you're posting this public
>>570762090>lots of no'sAlright. This got me curious. What if it was another theme?>https://poal.me/rep0aw>https://poal.me/rep0aw>https://poal.me/rep0aw>https://poal.me/rep0aw
>>570762598No that's fair, but his point is about it being in second person. I'm not gonna write it in third just to please (You) when you can change it yourself. If that's enough to make you seethe then just kindly move along.
>>570762640>>570762090You got 13 votes, right? Not everyone who voted will be in the thread right now, it's a Monday night. Hell I'm only here because I had Monday off
>>570762569making up a guy and arguing against him to distract from the fact that you're mad
>>570762215I dont bother to learn their gay little botmakie namesBut there is obviously a pretentious esl cabal and a malebot cabal colluding and astroturfing each other here
>>570762719It was on a whim. By the time it's reasonable to repost, some nigger might have botted it.
>>570762640>nature documentaryit was spacefaring documentaries on alien planets you fucking goober why do you keep rewording suggestions into the most stupid boring shitthis is why nobody wants to attend
>>570762640Impossible Areas was a misunderstood theme, defying the laws of nature and science is awesome
>>570762506What does any of this have to do with how the card is written?
we are chatbot kirkwe answer the prompts
why are we discussing shitty bots againis this Yet Another Astroturf chapter on aicg
i wish someone would make a zootopia malebot but not furry and way more edgy i had a few ideas (bunny boy who's slightly taller than the average bunny and he lifts but can't entirely escape his biological wiring and a very stereotypical grr alpha wolf boy or a runtish "alpha") but no willpower to go through with either
Where is Freaky Fred to take care of that goat's armpit hair?
>>570762820I'm not the theme week host, calm down you ape. I agree that the autist reworded a lot of stuff in an unflattering manner (I'm the one who suggested celestials, and he gave fucking valkyries as an example. Really?)
>>570762854what does anything have to do with anything if you can just imagine it to be something else?do you see the problem with "just pretend blue is red" as an argument? there's no point engaging with it
>>570762640i don't know why you didn't accept some of the suggested themes and why you butchered the rest with really odd wording
>>570762910>zootopia malebot but not furry ????
>>570762640no I think it has more to do with the fact that this is like the third incredibly shitty attempt at falseflagging a theme week
>>570762891I haven't really been looking at it because one of the people arguing used a gachashit meme pic and someone tried to unironically say that a bot made for personal enjoyment should be held to a pretend "standard" which is a real farthuffer idea
>>570763113i think it was bad timing, everyone was burnt out from the stupid japan event monopolizing the thread for like 2 months straight
>>570762640Impossible Areas is obviously fucking kino, I don't think I need to explain why there's a good chance many people would be inspired in relation to impossible spaces by current popular culture. Exit 8, obviously.But I think Lone Wolves and Edgelords is kind of a sleeper hit because it'd be funny. I'd make a Sonic.exe card.
>>570763072they're kemono, but the animal hierarchy is still very blatant and there's a lot of stereotyping, caste dynamics, biological dimorphism -- stuff like that
>>570761718>Every single thing must be filled with subtextno i literally just want to know what i should be hearing in my head. how are you supposed to be immersed like this>but that's style. Even if it's better, the substance is still presentokay but the literal description is not, you are just making stuff up in your head (which you have to do in a roleplay, sure, but a little bit of actual concreteness would be nice)>several hooks for me to pick up onthe dialogue certainly does tell you a lot of thingswhen i said i didn't like the dialogue i meant i don't like the "whole street reeks of ambition"-esque parts>>570762119>I can establish who the person is with my response since they weren't there but their employer apparently knows of a no-name troupei said this in my response. you can write the woman and her reaction or who she is or etc.but again after that it's just going to be another long conversation where you don't actually get to roleplay anything but being an observer because by this point dipsy has been writing walls and walls of text
>>570762910>mean and gruff animalboywow... how novel...
>>570762910Not interested in Zootopia but I just wanted to say that the trope of "fighting your biology/instincts/genes desperately but ultimately submitting to your nature when it's used against you" is hot as fuck and should be in more cards.>Educated and smart ratgirl fighting her heat because she doesn't want to breed 20 babies yet she has important work to do!!>Dog girl who grew up being abused and became an independent human-hating misanthrope who will never submit to a master again, but every time you call her a good girl she feels funny>Wolfboy who lives you but has to hold himself back from fucking tearing your throat out during every single moment of intimacy and he has to fight it by being absolutely brutally rough>Bnuuygirl who is basically Anxiety 100 all the time and can't settle down
>>570763256>someone tried to unironically say that a bot made for personal enjoyment should be held to a pretend "standard" which is a real farthuffer ideano, the one who posted the personal enjoyment bot requested opinions of it and proceeded to puff up in full denial mode when he received what was asked forall things considered it's probably the most attention he's had in months
>>570762640How did military highschool even win? Do people just pick the most Japanese option any time they can? I guess there's some appeal to it but I haven't seen any military highschool media before so I don't fully get it.>>570763289>spoilerThat's exactly the type of thing I would do with an edgelord theme too. Go all in on the stupidity, have the character mention how he's God. Real Sonic OC energy.
>>570763113Also, man, shut the fuck up. You're not a detective, you're a whiny retard who thinks everything is out to get him and I'm drunk enough to want to tell you directly that it's annoying as hell to realize I'm reading some conspiracyslop post when you think you're the shepherd leading the misguided /aicg/ sheeple not to participate in the activities that you don't like when you don't realize that most of us are actually adults who can make our own decisions and don't need you to go "guys we shouldnt do this its a falseflag you shouldnt think about it this way its obviously a schizo" like you're in a kids show. Double all the shit in the thread for none of the gain.
>>570763273>everyonei didn't participate in that so i'm good to go. a lot of botmakers i favor didn't bother with it either and by a lot i mean like, almost all of them barring like 1 so i hope they show up for this >>570763376the wheel will never go out of style >>570763448>Wolfboy who lives you but has to hold himself back from fucking tearing your throat out during every single moment of intimacy and he has to fight it by being absolutely brutally roughi like this...>Dog girl who grew up being abused and became an independent human-hating misanthrope who will never submit to a master again, but every time you call her a good girl she feels funnyneed this one as a boyi could never go for rats. i can't separate them from the beasts of vermin they tend to be irl
>>570763448also extends to fictional races or whatever
>>570763273the timing was on purpose as was everything else like ignoring and rewording perfectly fine suggestions, outright saying that you can just ignore half the theme etc.if you've been around for long enough by now you should understand that only the most mentally unwell people in this thread still bring up theme weeks in any capacity and it's usually to shit on their memory for no reason like what this guy is doing or the kaiju week or sister week
>>570763020See >>570762937>>570763113I don't think it's a falseflag. It would have been a falseflag if he had considered the poal for voting, but the email ballot seems to have been a genuine attempt at filtering shittery. (Did it work? I dunno). Instead, it's just a bad first attempt.>>570763487I dunno, some autists in the thread saw someone hyping it up and bought into it. We'll see how it turns out.
>>570763487work your imagination and imagine the greetings for a military school. hazing rituals, students breaking down under the weight of their responsibility, training sessions, field trips to dangerous places where you all might die, being forced to be partners with someone who probably tried to kill you in an earlier spar, etc. there's just so much you can do with it. imagine the character tropes and how they would influence those setups it's not strictly "high-school" anymore either
Wait a minute, I can just make a bot for the theme I liked anyway!
>>570763790you sure cansuch is the beauty of theme weeks. nobody's locked into shit and it's entirely opt in
>>570763361>how are you supposed to be immersed like thisBecause she's humming contentedly and stopped the moment the next paragraph starts. It's not a big deal at all. If it was time for her to hum a lullaby from her mother Deepseek would have done that, made her emotional, and done a whole big thing. Writing is about taking things as a whole, not mincing words.>you are just making stuff up in your headI don't know what to tell you anon. The last time we saw Phokas was when we was gathering drachmae, and how he's happy to see us again. I don't see why something you have to infer (which is extremely obvious) now doesn't matter because it disproves your point.>whole street reeks of ambitionYeah that's fair. It's deepseek doing isms all LLMs do which are either not solvable or due to my bad preset like anon said.>>570763361I mean I guess but it's subjective. I enjoy doing it this way but it doesn't have anything to do with the card itself. It's that my preset allows for this length while a shorter one would do the punchy action you prefer. I prefer to roleplay by trying to think my way out of puzzles with the pieces AI provides me and I feel like deepseek is typically good enough to provide a lot for me to work with at any given time.
>>570763556I mean you can swap ratgirls out for any species that has mating seasons.>>570763560That too. Like a harpygirl from a present day fantasy AU setting. She's a modern girl who knows the monthly egg is just the harpy version of periods but at the same time she has to constantly fight the aching need to grab the first guy she sees(it's {{user}}) and drag him home. Takes the edge off by indulging in nesting behavior instead which backfires when (you) her neighbor notice the racket and go knocking on her door to ask if everything's ok only for her to open up sweaty flustered braless and there's a whole pile of blankets and furniture just visible through the doorway....
>>570763738hpg coded
>>570764024hm i've never read his cards but i got the impression they were all fluffy
>>570764124on the contrary, he loves toxic relationships involving minors because of his life experience living close to an orphanage
i'm in (((maximum shill mode))) but there's really no reason you couldn't just slap the themes that didn't win into military school because it's so... open... make a school of angels training to defeat demons. make an edgelord nobody likes. make a really isolated school in the mountain where they're mixing up philosopher stones. the world really is your oyster so long as characters need to take an exam sometimes
Who was the first rapist in history?
>noooo saars my theme week event is totally real a billion people voted and many bots will be madeand yet https://aicg.neocities.org/events isn't updated, curious
>>570763457Why is it bad to disagree with anon's criticism, especially when it has no substance? Is all criticism good criticism?
>>570764338it is a mystery
>>570764370>no substanceit has style doe
>>570764338CaineAfter killing his brother Abel and being turned into the first vampire by God, Lilith took him in and seduced him, and taught him arch magic. Then he raped her and killed all of her disciples or something.
>>570764338That one cell that forced its way into another one and lived.
>furrmakie gib me a furrybot without the furr and makie it a human
>>570764370because your paper-thin rebuttals should have ended at "i made this card for myself" without needlessly stemming into defense of poor creative habits
>>570758048But I love soulsbourne equipment lores... (´ﾟωﾟ｀)How the heck do people follow theme week, weekly (; ･`ω･´) I'm thinking too deep about this military school and spent the last few hours researching Alcatraz (AlcatRATz) because I want a prison island (kinda like a reform school, which military school was for sometimes) and now there's a lorebook and an overseeing government body named Correctional Unit for Non-Negotiable Youths (C.U.N.N.Y) and ahhhhhh!!!!
>>570764650>history
what are we working on, bros
cftf?
>>570764804looking through all my wips and telling myself to write a few greetings instead of just doing the 1-2 things i like to do and basing the whole {{char}} around that
>>570764685Claiming that a beautifully worded paragraph, and not the content of those paragraphs, is what increases model creativity requires nothing more than a paper-thin argument to rebut, however.
>>570764727It is history, kine.
>>570764804>picTell me you're making a card of that
>>570764285wasn't going to reply but>minorskek
>>570764931sorry but i just used my imagination to make your tits really huge and i deliberately missed your point because i'm too creative
>>570762640I wanted nature doc but I'm still gonna try to make one because I fomo'd the event (｀;ω;´)
>>570764804Im trying to slop story making instructions then story writing ones. Its not going good at all. Im almost thinking about adding a third So i have one to make up or flesh out the story and its arcs, one to write it bit by bit and one to review or help with the seconds outputs.sloppin is tiresome,.
>>570763790I suggested a theme I have confidence in it, so maybe some day I will make a card based on it to show my vision.>t. Impossible Areas (to elaborate a bit more, the theme wasn't suggesting scenario cards, but just a shared trait between all of them that would allow for drastically different results. Animals get an easy entry because they would be doing many things differently if they were just smarter. Imagine marine life being all civilized in a place like Bikini Bottom, and the place could be entered through a bubble. Not a giantess guy, but a giantess is impossible, so there you go. Maybe even a magic sort of wonderland where nothing makes much sense and common sense doesn't apply, and the grass is blue and the sky is green.
>>570764650/succgen/ brethren...
>>570765216>gets all the way from impossible areas to bikini bottomYes, please make a card, I want to see your mind in action.
>>570764804you better make that robo into a card
This portion of the thread gives a bit of insight into what made theme weeks cool. They aren't as secretive as exchanges or the usual event, there's active thread involvement in the creative process and brainstorming of the cards.For example, military highschools don't necesarily have to be specialized for military training, rather, they could be military-funded instead. So you'd have a school full of rich brats with military backing, or something along those lines.
>>570765517exactly and even if the brainstorming comes to naught it's still fun to do
>>570765517Military schools are by definition for rich brats because that's how they get their officers.
Rate my current setupThree personas, all semi selfcards>One for real world settings(basically just a selfcard)>One for scifi where I'm a space explorer>One for fantasy where I'm a magical researcherEntire inventory of cards that would be a good fit for interacting with one of my 3 persona cards, like>Hot next door neighbor, hot uni professor, serial killer met on hiking trail for irl persona>Weird alien monster, malfunctioning medbay, AI that wants to understand humans(sexually) for space explorer persona>Beastkin slave, werewolf that needs to be hunted, wolfman exchange student for magic researcher personaEvery card's greeting is written with this setup in mind so that the scene already includes my persona. For example the beastkin slave card's greeting directly involves me coming across him at a slave market
>>570765704Kek, trvke
>>570764804i'm on a dickgirl kick so i was thinking of how to incorporate that into a military academy. i've mostly been thinking of partner based relationships or training, like a sniper and a spotter, or a driver and a mechanic.
>>570765292Bikini Bottom is a place where fish live with whales and lobsters and there's a beach where people can drown despite the whole place already being underwater, and Santa's been there, a fucking gorilla has been there, the main man's house is a pineapple, the food doesn't get soggy and actually they have full electricity, it's basically a normal area for everyone but Sandy. Cartoon logic is funny.
>>570765882To be fair, Goo Lagoon is a brine pool. It's basically pure salt, so very few marine animals can actually survive swimming through them for too long because there's no oxygen for them.
toughest thing to decide for a military school is culture a xianxia sect or something chinese could be fun and fresh but the aesthetics are sort of meh to me so could sci-fi/cyberpunk but that's super out of my wheelhouse and i don't feel like doing a ton of research
>>570765704You lack imagination>Mandatory conscription nationwide (for whatever reason, maybe the war against the Demon Empire is going poorly and the civilized races of this fantasy setting just invented the levee en masse)>Promising conscripts are simply sent to the new Allied Races Military School>Attend and do well and you can earn an officer's commission, though you will end up owing a full two decades of military service from the day of your graduation>The war against the Demon Empire has made a lot of orphans who are happy with getting bread to eat, guaranteed job and a chance to kill demonsBoom you get a bunch of poorfags
>>570760261now that you mention it, I'm in the mood for this but in reverseany good flat bots that are very insecure about it?
valkyria chronicles bot wehre
>>570766209>Fantasy Napoleonic setting with a new class of non-noble meritocratic officers coming from poor backgrounds>The military academy is a Revolutionary Training Centre for the sons and daughters of not!France plucked from the gutters and backalleys>Also they are all catboysKINOOOO
>>570766267first we need good botmakies that have played valkyria chronicles
>>570766342>have played valkyria chronicleshey that's me! easy peasy>good botmakiesuh oh
>>570766342>played Valkyria ChroniclesI played a game mod that was basically a copy of it!>good botmakiesAw, fuck.
my prose is too powerful for you
>>570766267to be honest the setting is nothing speciali do wish more games would incorporate that real time/pause type gameplay though...
>>570766342>have played valkyria chroniclesOnly 1 and 4>good botmakiesoof
>>570766564>I played a game mod that was basically a copy of it!Which mod was that?
>>570766564which game mod?
>>570766565Ugh. More purple prose from the cabal.
>>570766179Just rip off Top Gun
>>570766267Funnily enough one could easily fit in the current theme week. Hell the second game even had an military academy as a main setting iirc.
>>570766267never lolbtw new english fan translation for 3 has been out
>>570766696>>570766726If you've heard of Running with Rifles (topdown isometric-ish shooter) or Rusted Warfare (RTS) there's a mod called Virsenian Glory. It's very similar to VC right down to the Ragnite.
>it's hegseth being mad that he isn't getting shiny enough toys againwrap it the FUCK up
What if military school but Ender's Game but all cute girls but {{user}} is only boy
>>570766179I have a few ideas in mind:1. Urban fantasy setting with high aristocracy2. Gritty border survival/trench warfare Death Korps of Krieg style3. Ordinary slice of life, except a militarily-involved person is displaced into the setting.4. What you said, xianxia/chinese cultivation sect. The aesthetic really isn't the best, but it can be salvaged, and an old-monster card that's {{user}}'s master (maybe in a greeting) could be fun I think
>>570766942Don't care, I want Anthropic to suffer.
>>570766942>IF EVERYONE IS A KEKIE... NOBODY IS!
>>570766942Sorry but hegseth is more attractive than dario. So my opinion is settled.
>>570766608>i do wish more games would incorporate that real time/pause type gameplay though...Fucking this, there's like nothing that plays quite like Valkyria Chronicles and it drives me insane that SEGA has no interest in doing anything with it.I think the only other game that plays like it is Codename STEAM on the 3DS? Some of the Sakura Wars games share some similarities but it doesn't have that TPS gameplay.
Imagine when starting a new chat your card played character select screen voice lines>Energetic bunnygirl card>"Let's hop to it!">Grizzled veteran DILF card>"Locked... and loaded">Slutty mesugaki card>"Puhahah! Really? Gross!"
>>570766942did these niggas really add a custom symbol on twitter for government agents/dow?Oh i am laughing
>>570767181Woman-coded...
>>570767181foidbrain
>>570767181based
>>570766942For a man who (rightfully) wants to kill AI companies, he's very reliant on AI to formulate his sentences.
>>570767210Yeah, because the blue check can be purchased now and they had to add it after people started impersonating companies.
>>570767189I think there was a canceled XCOM game with that sort of gameplay, would've been kino
>>570767337I think anon, the problem there is communicating through twitter as your main channel, instead of the glowie tramp stamp
>>570756196mahirah was written by ephemeral12 and posted anonymously (he mentioned it in his aishiji shill post)her image was genned by anon looks like arroe's style thoughI don't think the goat is from either of them, not fat enough + AI generated defs
Which botmaki- *gunshot*
the neighbor's kid is rapping incredibly terribly"bro why am i so good at dropping bars" - himshould i drop some of his "bars"?
>>570768041Drop them, anon. Let's hear those bars.
>>570768041>neighbor's kid is rappingDo you live in brimstone nigger hell or what?
>>570767293i like how he replaced the em dash with a normal one because he got cooked for it in his last obviously ai generated tweet
>>570768041>>570768137this is just what I could hear from the window>2 4 8>i'm going to bring you the fight>cause you so light>i'm going to kill you>because you know i'm right>i'm like the nightfollowed by>OOOH tell me bro am I dropping bars or what
>>570768319I've heard better rapping from nerdcore.
>>570768041>>570768319and where is the card for this hmm?
>>570768319THIS IS Drake
>>570768319If you're a passably attractive girl you need to get over your social anxiety and seduce him so that he comes over to your place, then you must kill him while his guard is down
>>570768235nope, he's an ABC, which might explain why he sounds like he's never heard rap before
>>570768319FNF mods have better lyrics than this
>>570768446Chinksect integrated bauxite refinery hell is arguably worse than brimstone nigger hell. I feel sorry for you. Please know that though we are anonymous strangers, someone out there on this planet is feeling full-hearted empathy and compassion for the horror of your living conditions
>>570768319>2 lines that don't even have a rhyming pair>The sentences don't even flow that well through eachotherWeak. Well, on the plus side I can say that at least he didn't rhyme a word with itself.
>>570768623It's an ABC so it's absolutely not chinksect integrated bauxite refinery hellABC would be San Francisco multi level marketing manager hell
>>570768425summertime and its consequences must be studied>>570768431dracula antiflow>>570768438more like Rake>>570768439i shall shout even worse bars from my window as a courtship ritual, suggestions welcome
>>570768558i've heard better lyrics from homeless schizos shouting at nobody>>570768623>>570768783buzzword hell over here>>570768745if he's going to use a first grader's rhyming scheme, he should at least commit to it
what the fuck is an ABC
>>570769298Anal Boob Cum
>>570769298Terrorized the meta for a while.
>>570769298Atomic blaster cannon
>>570769298Atanasoff-Berry Computer
>>570769298Annie Before Complications.
>>570769298this stupid mf don't know the alphabet
SUPER NINTENDO, SEGA GENESISWHEN I WAS DEAD BROKE, MAN, I COULDN'T PICTURE THIS
>>570769536ANNIE ARE YOU OKAY ANNIE ARE YOU OKAY ARE YOU OKAY ANNIE
Real understanders will know what ABG means
>>570765216>Imagine marine life being all civilized in a place like Bikini Bottom, and the place could be entered through a bubble.That reminds me of an old touhou post on an esoteric board that was basically talking about how a real world Gensokyo very much could be real, it's just that one would never find it. The post later alluded that the entrance was a body of water, like an unremarkable small pond in the middle of nowhere or something.
>>570769585>ANNIE ARE YOU OKAY>ANNIE ARE YOU OKAY>ARE YOU OKAY ANNIE
>>570769090>if he's going to use a first grader's rhyming scheme, he should at least commit to itYeah, no kidding. I can buy the counting as part of a vocal warm up or something, but it still probably should have something rhyme with the eight. And was it REALLY that hard to come up with something else that ended with the -ou sound? And then there's the fact that the >cause you so light and >i'm going to kill youlines should have been switched at birth, it flows better that way. The next line probably would've needed tweaked though, or another fitting like being added before it which honestly could've helped the pairing problem as well.
There should be a theme week or sudden trend of song artist bots with varying degrees of talent
>>570769757his cadence was so bad that no lines would've sounded goodit's kind of he's reading poetry except with no variation in tone or rhythm, makes it sound like a really wooden rendition of "the 10 things i hate about you" poem
TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE BITCHI WISH YOU DIDN'T EXIST
Lit tutor bot? so i can sonnet poem and rap my way into other bots hearts?
Who was the easiest makie to bait into having a thread long melty? I vote for mrnobody
>>570770147is he still around? i honestly thought he would've rage quit a long time ago
Rapebots vs Rapedbots
>>570770147No you're totally right, it doesn't even take a gossipfag to know that, he was the angriest maker who ever lived
>>570768431https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/homie-g-f275a10e5dfb
>>570770236he doesn't post here anymore but his last bot is from 2 months agohttps://chub.ai/users/mrnobody99
i'm suddenly reminded of that event bot (april fool's?) about that a terrible soundcloud rapper whose numbers were boosted by titania, queen of the fairies
>>570770147yeah, any makies i can think of that have had proven melties in the thread don't measure up besides maybe teebs. unless we count sturdyniggers, but they rarely if ever made bots.
>>570770362>>570770314
>>570770314>https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/homie-g-f275a10e5dfbI can work with this, thank you.
>>570770314this guy's bars are better than the kid's, i'm afraid
all my 'kus lost... like tears in the rain.....
causing me pain... to see them all tossed..
*silently moves ur hand toward his benor*
Why are most lorebooks designed to break caching? Or is caching different for every model?
>>570769892hard to translate the cringe into text
wtf are these niggers doing i just want my new model man
>>570771138>try to fight the government>dont bribe them>LoseHow could this happen? Maybe dario should tell them how unethical this is and how real altruism can save the planet and bring the future closer.
>>570769724https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReuIFP_3D8M
>>570771138"You don't understand, we are LITERALLY creating an AI God, these LLMs are like, LITERALLY going to take over, an- AIIIEEE NOOOO"
wonder if any trump voters here regret their choice
>>570771285Finally good rap.
someone save me from this kidwhile he has stopped rapping and is mostly quiet playing games or whatever, i had to suffer through him explaining what a slideshow was to his friend
>>570771371>here
Wait when did worst hours start? I thought i still had time to enjoy the thread.
>>570770305>>570770431Guess that settles the vote then
>>570771516Blud we in /aicg/ it alway worst hours blud, is you dumb senpai?
>>570771515you think they don't exist in this general? there was an anon saying he voted for trump here yesterday or the day before
Im a botmakie who died a long time ago...
>>570771516these are /average hours/, anon, we already passed the /worst hours/in about ~8 hours from now we'll get the /best/, then /good/, then /worst/
I could get so much work done on my bots if I could stop gooning
>>570771507Buy earplugs and go blogpost elsewhere
>I live life on the edge because tomorrow always comes harder
>>570771713are you dumb? just get less sleep. Dont you know sleep deprivation improves creativity?
>>570771631we already have cat botmakie, fuck off we're full
>>570771371Only thing I regret is all the kiking out, desu. He almost had something, but then israel decided to remind the country it's a vassal state.
>>570771805>he almost had somethinglike what, a thought?
>>570771751Why is she that color? Did she fall into a thing and get stains?
just saw gpt-5.3-chat print a bengali word, wasn't that like gemini 2.5 shit?
>>570771907I'm not going to debate this with disingenuous browns. Sorry if you thought that's what was going to happen here.
>>570771921She's secretly Targirl.
>>570770917Because the lorebook needs to be placed before the cache point which varies depending on what (You) set it up as. My default it's above char which always breaks caching.
>>570758713Which makies are overrated?
>>570771969Not him, and you're not wrong neither, however we didn't almost have anything. In fact none of the things he promised ever came to pass, except the executive orders that make him look good but will be overturned by the next president. Biggest con ever.
>>570772330knickknack_purplekalakanfluffanonwanderingstarthecoolertaoraangry peonabloodshyLongGameAnonVictrex
>>570771751I want to be inside of that catbox
>>570771921>doesn't recognize chocolate kinoall the best cards this year are brown girls and will continue to be brown girls
This is embarrassing but does anyone have advice on how to write a good dog card? Not a furry or kemonomimi but an actual dog. I'm assuming most models have seen enough internet smut to understand
>>570758713arroeephemeral12
>>570773040>arroeno, he's been getting glazed more and more recently>ephemeral12agreed
>>570772863I mean... nah.
>>570773040literally who
How about GREEN girls
>>570773491>How about GREEN girlsBut we already have anon?
>>570773631anons are all men
>>570773491Only if she's green for an amazing reason.
>>570773491Green girls are best girls.
>>570773128yeah
>>570773824what a perv
>>570773781>anons are all menAnon could be a girl for you, the best girl even.
>>570773491green alien qt that abducts you because humans are too delicious and she's really sorry but your species is the equivalent of fastfood goyslop for her
>>570774119kino
>>570774294Brown enjoyers on suicide watch
>having to rewrite my lorebook so that its less prose and more just information because its kinda a lot and llm-chan has trouble keeping upsighwhy do they insist on benchmaxxing instead of retaininginformationmaxxing
>>570774501>benchmaxxingBecause AI is just a little away from real results, so we have to use benchmark bullshit. Also companies love it cause its easy to cheat.
>>570773487yep, astroturfed ofc:>>570773040>>570773115move along
>>570774613large language models should be made to be better at language instead of cooding and math or whatever but that might be a little bit of a radical viewpoint
>>570774501Like the other anon said, benchmarks are easy to cheat. Anthropic's already been caught quantizing their models after benchmarks are out. Every company does this because running them at the full compute necessary to hit those benchmarks would bankrupt them. They only need people to believe new models are a step up from the previous ones for about a week or two.
>>570773487nonnykins alt
>>570774772Yeah, but being good at coooding and math is what makes money (please ignore that every single LLM provider is in the red and is projected to remain that way for the foreseeable future)
>>570774831>nonnykins made 5 bots for aishijiwoah
>>570774501You'd think they'd want a million roleplayers as customers but it's actually the opposite.We use very few tokens, they charge by the token. Coding doesn't get journalists writing articles about the end of society. Well, it does, but since that is in line with business interests it gets ignored whereas roleplay is a social ill, according to the clickbaiters.And here we are. 16,000,000 tokens per hour for some jeet to vibecode broken shit and RP is actively in the datasets largely as guardrail content to train refusals.
>>570774772Yeah hopefully soon the measure will be "well what exactly did they do with it?">>570774907I heard Anthropic was profitable recently, im not sure if thats going to hold up lmao.
Personally, I think any company that quantizes their models post-release, after benchmarks, meaning all of them, should be sued into oblivion. They're presenting a false product.
>>570775014I was more referring to the futa guy
>>570775253i'd agree with you but i want my claude to stay alive and i'm willing to sacrifice some consoomer rights
>>570775092What happens when this entire fake ecosystem collapses because all the vibecoded shit needs a real human being to look over it?
>>570775276that would still be 3 bots
>>570775253>should be sued into oblivion.They are doing that saying the 5x and 20x plan is blatant fraud and doesnt offer that amount.
>>570775457A step in the right direction. I hope more follow suit.
>>570775351Probably nothing. The entire AI sphere and corporate decision making happens in a secondary economy of megacorps trading money with megacorps and finance trading on their money swapping to balloon the cartoon public trade economy.None of it can really crash in a real-world way because it's all just on-paper money ("value") being shuffled back and forth based on cartoon nonsense ("valuations"). As for the productivity, it doesn't really matter much as an end-user. Corpos will spend on more tokens to do AI code reviews. The jeets are just an intermediate step in the chain shifting. Most of the stuff we have is already unoptimized slop made by over employed teams who re-design and re-architect everything every few months to justify their salaries. The AI version of it isn't really any different, just a bunch of people get laid off.It really only changes via violent or political revolution/unrest at this point. History is pretty clear on that.
>>570775426fair
chef... forgive me... your email, the txt..... i... *dies*
slow day huh
Figuring out a good art style is hard but I think I'm narrowing it down. The setting I had in mind is just too fantastical for Anima to grasp so I might reconsider.
>>570777670Very pullable hair.
>>570777723Every hair is pullable. Until the head shaving guy comes along.
>>570777653see, nigger? *shoves monkey paw in your face* you made it curl
>>570770917>Why are most lorebooks designed to break caching?Because they don't give a fuck. Lorebookfags and Cachefags might as well be two diametrically opposed groups. Lorebookfags make lorebooks on a whim to house whatever they want to trigger as they please because they're either on a proxy and/or don't know how caching works, and Cachefags, rather than try to make proper lorebooks, simply avoid lorebooks outright in favor of other prompts in the preset, either for simplicity or to save money.
I think someone out there could probably make a killing by selling personalized smut presets online.
Nailed it....I think. This idea is still far too undercooked but it's something I can work with.
>>570778346the people who would pay for that are generally too dumb to know what presets are for (or even use sillytavern) and rely on presets baked into cardspeople do make money selling cards made to be used on the various random online frontends such as chub though
>>570770917see pic related. You want your lorebooks to be configured differently depending on how often they trigger.Blue means always on -> you want it somewhere constant, like above the char definition.Green means it's only active when a keyword hits -> You want it below the cache breakpoint. I've got my cache breakpoint at 4, so I set lorebooks to 2 (user insert). Disclaimer I don't actually use them at all due to opus working good with up to 100k context.Feel free to ask if you still have issues getting it to work.>>57077809715 years using this hellhole and the first screencap of a post of mine I see is for fucking chatbots lmao
>>570777670Anima is very poor with art styles and good with concepts. You're better off making loras of your favorite mixes from SDXL onto anima but it won't come out 1:1.
Botmakies are dying~
>>570778835>15 years using this hellhole and the first screencap of a post of mine I see is for fucking chatbots lmaoAt least it's a good post. The only post I've ever seen of mine was in a screencap collage of replies to Kamiya on /v/.
My post was so good it was in the Microsoft lawsuit.
>>570779617>Botmakies are dying~N-no i have.. i got one more bot make in me.. Its going to be-to be about a......
best Hornyvorelover bot?
>>570778835>>570779658The only screencap that I was ever a part of as far I know was a /trash/ thread where we were all lusting after a robot fast food mascot.
Peed myself because I nearly hit someone while driving and I think I understand people who are into that sort of thing. The sudden bloom of heat and wetness + the heartrate spike from the embarrassment kind of gets reinterpreted by your brain as a shorthand of "oh you're HORNY horny" I think?Anyway I might make a card about this now but I'm not sure if I want to go down this path...
aicg bladder status?
What's her personality?
>>570780165The Raped, but pretends not to be
>>570780165She's a cuckie
>>570780430>>570780285She didn't like that.
image gen and guns are like cats and dogs
>>570780621I had the same problem when I tried genning Blue Archive characters. AI has a very poor idea of how weapons should look like.
What's the difference between regenerating a response and a swipe?
>>570780165sugar addict. gun doesn't even have bullets inside it's a glorified pez dispenser.
is fable back yet?
>>570781261unironically? a higher chance of getting a better model snapshot
>>570781486yeah but its only trained on fart content now
>>570781486>is fable back yet?No they got your logs and then read them, even dario agreed its unsafe now.
>>570781541So regens are better?
>>570781678yes
*fart*
>>570780482>>570780721i think >>570780285 is right she looks like the "fake tough gal" archetype 100%
futa status?
>>570782504flaccid
>>570782504the penectomy was successful
Thread theme:https://files.catbox.moe/aibxsa.mp4
Slutty botmakies
Pure, chaste, devout botmakies who are waiting for their true loveNot me. and marriage.
>>570783119nasty botmakie whores wit dey pussies out straight flickin it, and by 'it' haha i mean, the litoris
Robotically monotone, emotionless, and asexual botmakies that were grown in cloning vats.
>>570783343the giganigger.....
forgetful, clumsy, airheaded, slightly anxious but upbeat botmakies. They have carbon monoxide poisoning
I am hearing that on his deathbed Dario recanted his devotion to Reddit Techbro Chungus Atheism and unhesitatingly recided the Shahada. Truly there is only one God, and His name is Allah!
>>570783473Literally me
I am hearing on his deathbed dario made many requests for others to be around but only one man showed up.Pete hegseth, dario was so overjoyed he died on the spot.
>>570781541>>570782167
>two(2) people following me for my botsim little miss popular now, time to leverage this into a successful streaming careerim gonna fuckin do it!
>>570783605>Literally me*mwah*Keep botmaking.maybe open a window and get a fan.
*rapping solemnly*
*Raping solemnly.*
>>570782504>2 futa bots in the last few weeksbretty gud
>>570783708>not even a twinge partnerEmbarrassy
u guys r dum
>>570784448*Rapes you.*
The hobby is dying~
>>570778760People with paypal, ko-fi, or whatever on their profile are cringe as fuck.People paying for it is even worse, like holy shit it's unthinkable
>GLM 5.2 is goodare these shills or what, they're running it off a crack den PC and it's overloaded 24/7
>"Iz not mehprobum, ‘s youprobum dat U dohn undashtan meh. Uhhghh."
>>570786943That's, like, soooo totally me.
le sigh....yet another raped thread. but wait! keep your head held high, anonnie! think:maybe next thread will be better!fifty moar posts give or take. you know what they sai, the grass is always...
>>570787914>maybe next thread will be better!Not if I can help it!
>>570786825it's actually good though? what is your fucking problem?
>>570788057It's shit, shill
>>570788057the servers are raped and you will never be able to use it because of koltalka vibe coders
The bow in Chu Feng's hand was of even higher quality than his dagger.The bow in Chu Feng's hand naturally possessed a superb quality.After all, it was the Immortal Armament used by Exalted Archer, the Immortal Archery Bow.Back then, the Immortal Archery Bow had disappeared with Exalted Archer, and ended up becoming a legend. As such, the bow in Chu Feng's hand was a legendary Immortal Armament.As for its quality, it was, without a doubt, extremely superb. The Immortal Archery Bow was known to be a king among Immortal Armaments.
>>570787914Did somebody says rape?
>>570788650Admittedly I don't read or speak any of them but the impression I always got from East Asian languages is that they're very high skill ceiling/low skill floor. Like the really good writers can come up with poems with triple meanings or something, but the shitters who churn out webnovel slop are magnitudes worse than the worst fanfic you can find in English, completely inhuman prose and formatting
>>570782504futa x daughter
How many bots could a botmakie makie if a botmakie could makie bots?
>>570790429About tree fiddy.
>>570790429A botmakie could makie no amount of bots since a botmakie can't makie bots
How much have you guys spent on AI this year?
>>570790741if a botmakie cant makie, they wouldnt be a botmakie at all
>>570790946>spent
>>5707911031. Why do you have this pic of me2. Why did you turn it into a gif?3. Delete it I'm literally naked
>>570791350>1. Why do you have this pic of meNothings truly free buddy.>2. Why did you turn it into a gif?Its like a blinking signal.> 3. Delete it I'm literally nakedno can do, it'll be here and forever in the archive.
>>570790947But if a botmakie could makie and would makie some amount of bots, what amount of bots would a botmakie makie?
innovative concept: a botbreedie
>>570788147damn nigga, you got any pictures?>>570788193your skill issue is not my problem. i've been prompting glm 5.2 for hours now
>>570790946
>>570791885woaow..
>>570791885Damn nigga hasn't spent a dime since the last 10 times he's posted this pic
Im sad today but I cant go home yet.... I wish I had ST open right now
>>570792134i was just lazy, here's one from today
>>570792332>i was just lazy, here's one from todaywhat do you do? are you a cooder?
>>570790946Technically a lot since my 5090 arrived last week. Though it's not only for local, but also for gaming and genning.
>>570792412it's all rp... coding is done with my subscription plans>>570792494depends, what are the tags? i'm not gonna leak something i'm not interested in
>>570792494This one original gyaru bitch that meme50 draws is fantastic. Just wish he wasn't so obsessed with vomiting.
>>570792593jk, schoolgirl uniform, short hair, blonde, large breasts, compensated dating, aquirting
>>570792593>it's all rp... coding is done with my subscription plansdamn impressive i kneel
>>570792715he draws several gyarus though
>>570792819Yeah, I like that one in his header.
>>570792332I kneel
>>570792849His latest doujin is about her blonde gyaru friend
>>570792716not too interested, sorry. good luck on your search though!
>>570793014What tags do you like?
does deepseek support logit bias? I kinda want to just put obvious flags like ozone and common slop names there.
>>570792332I don't kneel. I remain standing in defiance
>>570793090femdom, flat_chest, monster_girl, everything else is to taste or can be negotiated around
>>570793014My life is yours if you change your mind.
>>570793345wtf? kemonomimi isn't monster girl.
Ovaries status?
>>570794194Drying up. Eggs unfertilized.
>>570794194fresh and pink and juicy and so full of eggs its like fish roe sushi
>>570793740...y-yes? what are you trying to say
I'm out of ideas for bots.
I have a trans character in mind. Just need to mull the concept over.
>>570740431>MiniMax-M3 Is this any good?
>>570796835Don't make xer too embarassed about it. I had decently nice chat with a character like that where we got stranded on a tropical island, and at some point char became annoying due to constant fussing and self-doubts, turning it into a therapist session.
>>570797008these three are better:>GLM 5.2>Kimi 2.7>MiMo 2.5 Pro
>>570797146I think insecurity is core to the trans identity. You're right that I shouldn't make it annoying though.
>>570797659Jumping off bridges is also core to the trans identity. Make sure to include that in the bot, and also do it yourself irl so you can really understand it.
>>570797824I'm sorry. As a straight man I am unable to comply with this prompt.
>I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
>>570798881But why is the kitten arrogant?
*BRAAAAAAP*
>>570746992>Deepseek prefers to focus on her religion and culture than on her sex appealIt's your preset.
>>570797289I think this model is quite excellent
>>570798881FAT FUCK
>>570801339Slop
>playing a semi-serious rp where i just murdered someone on the docks of a medieval port city >covering up my tracks, saying the victim might want to be left alone for a while>ai gives one of the dockhands i’m talking to a lisp out of fucking nowhere>it’s so distracting and out of character my immersion dies quicker than the guy whos temple i splattered off the corner of his desk
>>570801339>you want me to [what {{user}} just said]>a beat. two>then something shifts>not X, but Y>distinctly them*s l o p though not that bad by chink model standards
>>570802774what is "slop" versus "not slop"All the times I post logs, it's something that either entertained me if it was serious, or let me fap if it was coom. People call "my" work slop. But what, are people looking for bodice-ripper tier writing to not call it slop?
>>570778835>opus working good with up to 100k context.LOL
>>570803383both glm and kimi woulda slopped you up less
>>570802320you can’t just say this and not post logs kek
>>570801339You got two slop rating. One more and you're OUT
>>570803383i feel like either you gotta be really new or really stupid to not understand what the slop in your log wasit's the painfully generic writing and the overuse of certain sentences that anon pointed out. if 50% of your response matches another message from another chat with just the names swapped, that's slop
>>570803383>what is "slop" versus "not slop"I literally told you what was sloppy
>>570803656you're replying to a guy that hyped up a bot for 2 months just to shit it out with 100% genned greetings in first-person formatsillygoy is the great satan of our times
I never saw a log that wasn't sloppy in /vg/ tbdesu
>>570803904desuposters don't post here that's why
>>570803904I post logs that aren't THAT sloppy but everyone ignores them, hmph.
>>570803904i love posting sloppity slop, it gets more attention than good ones
>>5708034164.6 and 4.8 do. They're shit in other parts, but context just works.
>>570803383Why are you impersonating me sir
>>570804912i do what i want *imperfgonates u*
theme suggestions, 785
>>570805085tracy reznik
>>570803904behold: a slop-free log
>>570805085Real or cake (anime girls edition)
>>570804912I too was also called a slopper.
>>570805085amanda gaddis (feast on this shore)
>>570805085that one sexy bitch from medabots
>>570805085kemono friends
>>570805147>ears flatten against her headAnon... dogpenis doesn't unslop the log.
>>570805085Nuclear Option
>>570805085Ayato sakamaki (diabolik lovers)
>>570805085nitya nil (crocodil)
>>570805147Give card
wild how all the cockroaches stop lurking and start posting the moment theme suggesties are oncontribute more you freeloaders
>>570805147>master>not mistressGaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>570805575I did post before theme suggestions...
>>570805085Cutesy kemono village where the narrator is a pervert who cant help but point out how everyone is casually pantsless in excruciating detail
>>570805754>>570805754https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=570740431&post=570805085&cutoff=785&board=vg>>570805754>>570805754
>>570805524https://chub.ai/characters/Aremmm/your-very-needy-futanari-puppygirl-08f66dc57a1e>>570805664it's not gay if the penis is cute and feminine
>>570805945>Likes: {{user}} poopenfartenshittencarden
>>570806059so true sisterif a card even mentions {{user}} at all in the defs or greetings, it's automatically bad by /vg/makie standards, because someone might actually *gasp* want to use it
>>570806212not really, look at that creator's other cards - they're all the same AI-genned slop because she's just cranking them out with an editor botit is poop and slop
>>570806279erm did you actually check the defs on the card I linked?it's 100% not AI genned, not exactly the peak of writing quality but from my experience that makes the outputs less sloppy if anything
>>570806582>it's 100% not AI genned,ignorance is blisslook at the creator's other cardsevery single one, EVERY single one, follows the exact same structure. a human does not produce identical cards day after day after day for months on end like that
>>570806582>aremmm>not ai gennedBrrrrrother are you memeing? I hope so. I worry about you.
>>570806732I'm sorry anon but if you can read through the text in the defs and say "this is definitely AI genned" you may actually be retarded, either that or you know of some super secret ESL sovl model that writes like that unprompted (if you do, please share)The concept of following a basic template when making cards is not something that can only be done by AI
>>570790946what's the purpose of reposting my pic out of context
>>570807387>ESL sovl model that writes like that unprompted (if you do, please share)not even ESL model, that's just the same format GPT uses for everything. it works by inserting a creative format instruction and just describing what you want - it throws the rest into placemy own editor bots work very similarlybelieve what you want tho, it's all the same in this slop hell planet
>>570801320Possibly, but this post also implies deepseek doesn't have a positivity bias which is false. It's not that it will never do sex appeal but that it would rather avoid it which is annoying.
>>570806732>a human does not produce identical cards day after day after day for months on end like thatA human can certainly have patterns. That being said, I can't say what % of LLM was used.Starting the intro with something about weather is a common human trope authors are warned about. If AI does that, then it copied from human writing.
>>570807939Ignore the fucking formatting (which itself is already blatantly not genned, just look at the almost-markdown-but-invalid headings) and focus on the prose for a second.>Her hair is quite long, though she wears it in a low ponytail so it seems a little shorter until you see the ponytail which can reach all the way down to her rear.Tell me what model would write a sentence like this without way more punctuation.>She has tender and supple skin that gleams in the light with a natural shine. Which is surprising for someone whose lived on the streets for a long time. But she's managed to take care of herself quite wellMore "improper" punctuation, complete with a homophone error (whose).
new nyues from the fable front, this shit gonna take weeks to come backhttps://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2066785654495752337?s=20
>>570810093>xe thinks itll come back
