A Toast To Rogue Mains EditionPrevious Thread>>570019612>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck Trackers & Statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24276664/break-the-rules-in-escape-from-violet-hold-hearthstone-s-next-expansion - new expansionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfueeQ5-MI - latest balance patch dev talkhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>Helpful Linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit
4 hours until HUNTER is SAVED
>>570794878Monk bros Violet Hold will end soon and then all that's left is the last expansion and the BLIZZCON the moment this game will be saved with the Monk announcement!!!Have faith and remember Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!
>have fucking +10/10 Shiny Ring>no bearer 4 turns>despite have RA on board and countless triples>dies 7 placeHoly riggerino
You enjoy this meta? Be sincere, also which classes should get in your opinion the next minisets?
>lose game>my wincon card in starting hand next gameyeah i forgot if you play homemade offmeta deck you suffer
>>570797462>You enjoy this meta?No, but I'm a coombo player so that's an obvious answer. I wouldn't mind an aggressive meta like this as much if there were more interesting combo tools available in standard, even if they remained as impractical as the current ones.Messing around in wild with stupid bullshit decks has at least tided me over for now.>which classes should get in your opinion the next minisets?Well, the first mini-set didn't exactly make me excited about the next ones, so I don't care all that much.I'm a little interested in thief Priest, so I'd like to see them expand on that with actually good cards. They won't add more thief support in the class set, but it's a nice thought. I'd still prefer some better shadow spells over that, so something based around that would be my choice.Warlock really needs some help, it'd be nice if it got some more cards sooner rather than later.
fuck your tolvirs fuck your tortollas fuck your alchemist...tnx for ruining another year
>>570797462the classes that need help are rogue, death knight, priest and warlock, so obviously the next miniset will be demon hunter, warrior, shaman and paladin again because blizzard loves paladin.
>>570801267>Rogue>Help>Help>Rogue>Rogue>RogueANOOOOOOOON
>>570797462class sets were a huge mistake. the point of midterm cards is give every class a chance to climb in a defined meta, of you only pic 4 classes and not even the 4 most weak ones you are doing nothing, exactly like what happened with cataclysm.
no point to play other classes / print new cards because hunter beats em all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCq-Gt4LXshunter, paladin and dk cards will be revealed later today
Get FUCKING hyped for the next engagement metrics event starting today until the next expansion releases on the 7th2 new cards, 3 violet hold packs, 2 arena tickets, 1 cataclysm pack and maiev rogue skin
>rogue pulls a ROYAL LIBRARIAN out of his rewind bullshityeah i'm done
they better show the rest of the ARYANadin cards today i don't want to wait moreprobably gonna be some pure shit
>play brawl for my free deck>it's rafaam vs kt>kt is still a fucking meme deck that autoloses to rafam 9 out of 10 timesepic epic epic
>>570795717where da new cards at
>>570814950hunter legendary when deckbuilding pick 3 smuggled beastsbattlecry: discover 1 it costs 3 less
>>570814950rat
>>570814950>>5708152836mana 6/5
>>570815335also this means you can pick beasts from other classesinsane cheat card
"The Smuggling mechanic allows you to add utility Beasts from other classes to your deck. This creates a surprise factor that can become the biggest advantage for players who like the class, as the opponent will not be able to predict which non-class tools have been smuggled into the match.">any beast from any class going to fucking kill myself and then all hunterfags
it is a known fact that warrior, hunter and druid are hearthstone's favorite classes
>>570815728>no mention of roguelol okay fag
>>570815782they were too stealthy mb but you're right
>>570815910thank you for agreeing with me. sorry I called you a fag.
>>570816017it's okay i am a fag
Devs are talking to us and asking forgiveness, say something nice about them.
is just me or hunter, rogue and druid always have been among stronger classes of this game since it's conception?
>>570815428>>570815335ursol for call of the wild in animal companion decksdracorex for removal ashamane for value against control?kragwa to give aggro decks another tolvir and bunch of spells against slower decks?
>>570815335>>570815428card's really damn good, they'll probably remove the discount or nerf it to (1) before it rotates out
>>570815335Are they fucking serious? Priest reduce his own deck, gets 20 shitty cards from oppo deck without even choosing them and Rexxar gets to pic literally 3 beast from other classes and discover another one with reduced mana cost? Cora are you fucking serious, bitch?
the thing that gets me is the manacheatwas that really necessarydoes hunter really need to curve into early ursol/dracorex
>>570815335Agamaggan is going to make people big mad
>>570815335This card is at least four stars, Zeddy was such a pussy with his three star rating. Just that it unlocks these huge win conditions with a mana cheat is stupid. Only way it doesn't work out is if taking two cards out of your deck is killer.
>>570815335>>570822625>>570820613Literally worse than current meme-hunterIt's just an neutered etc
>>570815335Ursol into any big spell = gg
pushing some classes over other this hard should be illegal...
>>570815335>Beast from any classPterrordax is gonna be nuts.
They literally /rcustomhearthstone/ now print cool cards but doesnt think about balanceliterally no QA or beta playtests (imagine if they tested companion hunter and found OTK tortolla combo)
>>570822897Turn 7 ashamane is cool, also you always slot in viper to counter mage and priest, just a good card
>>570826465Viper, Pterrordax, Agamaggan
>>570826465can you slot in neutrals?
>>570826694Currently no information on that
>>570826694I would assume not, the intent behind the card is clearly breaking deckbuilding rules and hunter already gets access to neutrals
These minions come to mind. There's some good stuff in standard, I wonder what degeneracy this card might allow in wild.
>>570822897>neutered etcexcept it discounts and can pick from any classit SLOTS INTO any meme hunter deck including companion rn (to fetch free removal or an ursol that wins you the game against any late game/cucktrol deck)
Ursol would be for squeezing value out of call of the wild in companion hunter.
hearthstone would be healthy if they removed ALL manacheat from the gameyes including coins. except the turn 2 coin
>>570829817Shit, I forgot mirex wouldn't keep the discount, ignore that one
>>570829817Ursol for companion hunter 8 mana spell that summons 3 animal companions
>>570830258>>570829983
>>570829817>>570829983value - ashamane/ursol (i'm leaning towards ashamane because ursol needs you to have another card in hand)board clear - dracorex/mythical terror (can go either way)tempo - pterrordax/mirrex there you go
>>570830159doesn't it? it's always 3 mana which means it ignores the cost of cards it copies
>>5708298172 Mana Hollow Direhorn + rush 1 drops would be pretty greatTolvir into Ulfar on 7Also pic related
>>570829817That card is so stupid looking at this list that makes you wonder if anyone at team 5 has some kind of idea of game design or they just choose X classes to give them the most broken shit they could think of.
>>570830902>warrior card was actually just hunter supportthese nigger devs aren't even subtle about their blatant favouritism
>>570830902>>570831134mythical terror mogs this
>>570831236at large true but if you have 1 extra mana it turns into a 2 mana 3/12, and it's obvious it was made with hunter in mind more tham warrior
>>5708312362 extra health and an instant trigger is pretty great for going over taunts though.
>Play arena>This happens two games in a rowHigh niggerdry.
WildyCHUD here.Once more, got to legend mad late, and somehow I'm still in the top 1000.Either way, wild meta is sorta really open but also has a ton of "Okay I lose" and "Okay I win" match ups. Not bad, and likely an issue because of my deck selection, but it hasn't been particularly fun, doesn't help that we also lost a deck (quest hunter) and that sorta nuked hunter into the dust.Also, once more, discolock needs a nerf while being garbage unplayable in standard lmao.
>>570830752No, it transforms when it enters hand provided the enemy has played a minion. Same goes for if you put any dark gifts on it (including cost reduction), they disappear.
>>570830752I mean, it will still cost 3 mana but it won't cost 0 mana after the reduction from the card that discovered it
>>570833494what did you use to get to legend?
90 minutes until reveal
CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT PIECES OF SHIT MAGE GETS
>>570843275Mage got a huge buff grom the class set, you deserve nothing but shit.
>>570843832lol. lmao. retarded faggot
>>570835697Chvdvvarrior, same I use to get to legend every month for the last like, 5 years.
>>570844640Truth hurts, Magetard.
>>570843275>mage can only get discover cards for 10 years>print discover quest>quests can never be good>???it's gonna be dead on arrival I fear
40 minutes until herald dk is saved
>>570847626surely you mean quest DK
>>570847626>>570848315all triple unholy runes DK
>>570847626>>570848315>>570848428Blood DK FTW
inb4 the DK Rulebreaker is something like letting you include triple rune cards if you have 1 of each rune type in your deck.
wait FUCK today is mage and DK i have to way 2 more days for any more paladin cards what is this dogshit reveal format holy shit kill all hs devs
>>57084892520hp, no rune restrictions
>>570849061>t. smartest DK player
>>570848925Isn't the DK Rulebreaker just the second Hero power?
>>570849578i meant druid sorry
>>570849668stop bein so silly
when we will get the chance to ban a class from our queue?
>>570850126there was a very brief period when iksar was still on the team where he said they were considering it
>>570849642Oh right that shitter, forgot she was supposed to break any rules.
>>570850126ONE class? I need at least 4, chief.
stream and drop live https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1d-8hKnFkSaved or CEMENTED, call it
>>570851817God I fuckin hate Twitch gonna swap to youtube after the 15 minutes are up.
the warrior legendary will be nuts in standard and wild.
nigga what the fuck
>>570852132>we love randomness in hearthstone i mean that is why we play right?lmfao
>>570852132Needs to get buffed to 0 mana
>>570851976You get two packs doing that ruse?
>>570852132how is this a fucking legendary>only 1 quest progressWHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAHAHA
>>5708522310 mana discover would be busted but yes, this is obviously garbage
secret mage bros we are so fucking back
>>570852132Isn't this like Legendary Priest tier of shit?
>>570852361Secrets should be a integral part of this game.
could be good I suppose
omg woman ruins this, muted
>>570852591>Already powercrept the leylinekek
>glitters just laughing at how shit the cards areshe's alright>>570852591surprising that they're printing a better version of leyline summon so soon. happy to have wasted gold on that piece of shit set
wild mage bros lets fucking go
>>570852954Oh shieeet
>>570852954fuck my life, well get ready for burn mage meta
>>570852765Needing three other spells the same turn is actually pretty hard if you want them to be actually doing something. Even >>570852954 might be meh since you aren't Violeting in burn mage.
yeah sure whatever
>>570852132it's mid but it's funny>>570852591why do they keep printing "summon a random X-cost minion" spells>>570852954good for burn
>here's our cool new combo>it's only 12 mana>>570853071don't get me wrong, mage is still garbage and worse still as they remove new sets, but this card is objectively better. I mean you can prepare on 2 and coin it on 3- it's gonna get removed before you get to use it but still
its sheep time
>>570853430release* not remove
>>570853487>blocks your path
>>570853487This will make me so mad...
>trump at a loss for words for how shit the cards are
>Mage gets this shit >>570852132>Druid gets to discover a reduced cost card every trurn for 3 turns
>>5708534873 mana transform one of the Vanessa's minion spam's 2 drops into a 1/1
what fuck a good card???
>>570852272yes
poggers manacheat!
>druid gets good cards. lmao
So the druid rulebreaker is some nerubian nonsense.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THE MAGE LEGENDARY 0ONLY DRUID CARD CAN BE 0 MANA FREE DAMAGE OR CARD
seems really good
that 1 mana spider is insanely good
I want to wrap whatever cloud fuzz Sunglitters is around mah caawk
>yes, she will fit in
>>570852591lmfao
>>570853935>>570854238>>570854452>>570854653class favouritism is way too obvious here lol compare this with mage's shitnot the one to defend magetrannies but this is just sad
meh
>>570854709why are they already reprinting that bad leyline card
>>570854873>>570853370>why do they keep printing "summon a random X-cost minion" spellsfucking again?creatively bankrupt devs
>>570854709>Turn 1 Spider and Swing>Turn 2 Swing + something>Turn 3 Swing + coin Scullery for a Underking or someshit
>>570852591>>570854873>>570854709prepare on that mage card will do the heavy lifting if it gets played at all lol
BITE HAAAARDoh shit thats hot!
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT POWER CREEP REDDIT AND LET THESE GUYS DO CREATIVE FUN OVERPOWERED THINGS AGAIN
what could the druid rulebreaker be at this point?
Mage cards were meh, druid cards look mostly fine but I doubt the attack archetype will be a thing outside wild, weapon is still good for value and the one drop is inasne for any aggro deck
>Mage gets goofy inconsistent casino shit>Druid gets a solid, consistent hero attack package that is mindless and gets rewarded for playing itselfDruid favoritism is so blatant it's not even memeworthy anymore, it's just Malfurion stomping his foot in your face. Forever.
>>570855448I would liteally behad the faggot at team 5 that loves the fucking Druid so much without a second thought.
How is that Mage card in the same set as Vanessa? Mage has to go a turn later + 3 spells just for 2 random 8 drops?
kill all peanut-likes.
what should happen for the devs to be good again?
>>570852132in hunter this wouldve been a rare card
Is just me or not a single Violet Hold card showed for now but the Warrior Lego, Warlock Lego and Hunter Lego will be able to compete in the Dark Gift and Herald package environment we live in?
>>570857152Its sad that you are probably right.
Who the fuck is this garbage Burnt Penis larping bitch?
>>570855718best part is it's 3 other spells THIS TURN
>one of the few classes with functional cards gets a retarded cardWhy is this allowed
>>570815335Elite Rat Chieftain
Which classes deserve get fucked? For how much time?Which classes deserve love? For how much time?
>>570852132would have been fine at 3 dmg, 5 feels way too much you're nearly fireballing yourself
>daily quest: cast 75 spellswhat did they mean by this
>>570852132new concede dropped
>>570868813I don't really understand punishing classes, I remember Paladins and Rogues having no decks a little white ago, it's not like the game was more enjoyable since there's always something retarded fucking up the meta. We miss Warlocks now but was the game any better when they had excavate or wheel of death/jailer/ganis?Paladin, Hunter and DH all go to the dungeon for anywhere from one year to three.Warrior gets the cuck cage for 6 months Mage receives non-random spells and cool wizard minions and moves up to a respectable A+ tier.Rogue loses casino as well and gains back poison and weapon support. They both enjoy success as fun classes until Rogue receives a new auctioneer miracle deck and Sif comes back to standard. Then we gut them again
>>570854238>food cards againCOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAA STOP EATING
>>570873296>Hunter and DH all go to the dungeon for anywhere from one year to three.>Hunter and DHlol. lmao.
>druid gets real cardshmm...
>>570876510why i should play some gimmick when i can ramp into Fyrkek and kill you ?
>>570868813In my opinion the game would improve drastically for me if I dont see a fucking Druid, Paladin or Rogue in the next year.Those three classes are EVERYTHING that's wrong with this card game, and devs seems to just don't understand how problematic they are.
the lack of cora in all these dev videos is concerning..
>>570879801too busy eating... and not only food if you catch my drift...
>>570879801>>570854238>>570879991
>wake up>mage is made the laughing stock of the expansion again
>>570853431
>>570890451>proceed to take 50 damage in one turn from magic missles
14 hours until the next neutral SAVES hearthstone
>>570854709why did they invite a chick who hasn't touched hearthstone in 2 years and only played bgs when she did
Every summon X-cost card sucks ass. Hunter barely gets by because it is limited to beasts so you know what you will probably get. And even then it can hit duds like the 3/3 t-rexThey should just summon X/Xs. I know it’s more boring but they would see infinitely more play
Fun and interactive
>six packs were granted to you outside the gamedamn did that random guy in an esports shirt i picked win the entire tournament?
Tried dudepaladin and it feels absolutely bustedIf the opponent doesnt have any removal and I am on curve I will always win on turn 5I’m surprised more people arent complaining about this
>>570903415it's been said before. it is a good deck, but other decks have more ways to scam. in my humble opinion as a guy who is usually around 200 mmr you can safely ignore almost all opinions on what is good or bad. you can abuse a ton of decks that are getting frowned upon in top 50 ladder but they are still giving you almost the same wr if you know what you are doing. people would rather complain about rogue because its so popular when in reality in almost all rank brackets the average player will be way worse at rogue than paladin
>those insane putrid dogshit boring ass cardsLMFAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Remember when this card broke the wild meta for years? Now you can get it without having to do a quest
cool how every single time a quest mage plays stonehill he puts 40/40 stats and every time i play it i get this
>>570906052Your fault for getting a diamond skin with no pets
>>570903415Irrelevant deck, the game will be matching you against priests with hands full of board clear.
The absurd bias Blizzard has for Rogue is so utterly tiring
>>570906797>release new neutral card that only works with cheap cards>rogue is popularwow crazy
>>570907078You forgot the other step, only release good cards for Rogue and if other classes get good cards make sure to nerf them while never nerfing any Rogue cards.
>>570907148I am not a reddit rogue hater. I do think vanessa is a stupid card though and it was obvious it would get abused by rogue
>play some Face Hunter because I'm tired of Rogues>draw more than half my deck in three games in a row without drawing Tol'vir oncehahaI just have never seen a game that is so UTTERLY blatant with the rigging honestly. You can just tell in the first 3-4 turns whether the game director has decided you get to win or lose.
>>570903217You fucking playing tolvir..... both deserve rope
>>570907308Name one single meta where Rogue didn't have at least one tier 1 deck in 10 years this game has existed.Rogue is at the same time coddled to hell and back and somehow they still manage to have a persecution complex because sometimes, after a year straight of Rogue being S tier Blizzard will sometimes nerf 1 (one) of their cards and that clearly proves Blizzard hates rogue.
>>570907653I personally think it's a good thing if classes are playable. I am not even a rogue main, I just think its childish to get angry at the other kids toys when you could get angry at
>>570904363Is it supposed to be ironic? I ran that questline for years and :A/ I wasn't breaking anythingB/ Nobody else was playing it at the timeIt's not that impactful of a card if you don't build your deck around it, to re-trigger it Ad Nauseam.Cool card, nonetheless. There is a lot of different way to build that deck. And it feels satisfying to play. It kept me entertained for a long time.
>>570906797Meanwhile, 10 years later, warrior and paladin are still searching for their class identity.
>>570909424That's the issue. Classes are NOT playable. Not all of them. Dev have been playing favorite for years. And they were not exactly subtle about it.
i still don't like standard come to bgs
I do think it's curious how when Druid was similarly dominant everybody called it Druidstone but I haven't seen anyone talk about Roguestone even though Rogue right now is higher than even Imbue Druid was.I genuinely don't get how streamers for this game live. I can barely stomach 2-3 matches while walking my dog, I can't imagine playing...this for 6 hours a day. Absolutely unbearable.
>>570874894with dh getting an extended sentence as punishment for not serving any time for blob deckYour issue?
>>570907653What the fuck are you on about? Last time rogue was viable was 3 years ago with pirates and that 0 mana gnoll and the 4/4s shuffled in your deckI'm still pissed about ogre not working in badlands. That Horley ogrelord was based as fuck
>>570911480Aggrokeks rule this shit. Rogue is easily killed by aggro. Comparatively, Druid stomps aggro.
Leylines mage is pretty good
>finally reach diamond 1>algo wakes upcora belongs in jail.
>>570919290>under 5 minsnot real games
>>570815335What if you put this thing in, would it randomly pick the next one or would you get to pick? If you get to pick then you always just slot this in and get a full board. Reno hunter might also make use of Spirit of the Badlands from paladin.
>>570922539if you pick parrot it excludes from pool....
>>570914967>genuinely acting like mech and miracle rogue weren't a thing thorough titans/badlandsdidn't play at all during '24 and '25 though whizbang's workshop and perils raped my interest for the game back then
>>570919290Went to the gym, came back, decided to queue a few games. Made legend. Ez.
4 hours until neutrals are SAVED
>>570928556>went to the gymThat's not how you call a toilet, anon...
>freezes you mid jerk session
>>570931582>guard has the anal bead sword
>>570854709why is there a bald nut sack on the stream
why am i even trying to play this game
>>570906797rogue has been king of arena for like 6 months and nobody fucking cares that half their cards are 1/2 mana insane value + tempo shit
wouldn't mind rogue nonsense if the rogue deck was actually interesting to play and wasnt just a value slop pile with the ability to randomly cheat mana on random cards on turn 4 to instantly end the game like this faggot class has been for four fucking years p.s. my queues are 8 minutes at diamond 5, glad this trash is dead
What's the schedule for the pre seasonal freebies?
>>570936347why deck you playin nonny?
>>570936625>nigger hand recruit in the screenshot take a guess, nonny
2 weeks until mass firings at xbox, will cora survive another around?
Is Hearthstone saved?
1 hour bros hold the FUCK on
what are we holding onto?
>>570948120monk coming out in 2027that's literally itif the game doesn't die by the early 2030s, then evoker or tinker at some point
>>570936347Update: Cora algorithm’d me back to diamond 3
why is blizzard so stingy with free ticketsarena is a fun modelet people playonly once in a blue moon do you get tickets as part of events
hunter won
>>5709542984 tol'virs!! lol!!!
>>570954298companion hunter is going to stay at 20%+ of the meta until it rotates out in 2028 isn't it
>>570954298what does the battlecry meanyou get a bunch of extra spells in your deck? that's an odd phrasing, usually you'd read something like "add copies of all spells in yourn deck to your deck"they tend to be pretty explicit with copy effects
>>570924805what fucking decks did rogue have at that time? i think you're confusing it though I just might be as mistaken as you are
Won against a streamer so now they activated my loss streak, very cool
>>570954749Yea it's weird, I assumed it'd copy to hand but the deathrattle sort of implies they're copied and stay in deck
>>570954809>he is aware of current year hs streamerslol
you now remember Bwomsamdi DK
>>570954298if this was a mage card it would be an 8 mana 6/6
>>570954792no i was just pointing out rogue had good decks during 2023but i can't comment on 24 and 25 since i didn't play those 2 years at all, i was not the anon you were replying to
>>570794878this deck is unironically the most fun I've had this expansion, it is such a strange combo deckit almost reminds me of if full-spell removal Control Warriors of the past had a baby with OTK spell power shaman
>>570958939Tried playing this deck and kept losing every game I didn't draw the location in Top 10 which seemed to indicate to me that I was doing things incorrectly. What are the kill combos and how do you mulligan?
Fair and balanced
>>570959384I feel like the key to this deck is using your removal so that you don't run out, while getting the 8-10 chip damage you need to kill at the same time (unless they are full diaper then you auto win if you cycle)this is my favorite deck this xpac because there are just so many choices to make and it's hard so here are my thoughts as I learn it:-your burst window is turn 7-9, focus on cycling in slow matchups and staying alive vs midrange and aggro-you need to be very conservative with your removal vs midrange/herald decks, especially shaman-you have several choices of which aoe to use, and you need to manage your Torch charges as fire spell activators around the fact you need 10 chip damage to go one seer+4burn cards on turn 8/9 (20 damage combo)-you can OTK slow matchups on 9/10 if you have 2 seers and developed 1/2 rocks-prize vendor is sort of feeling like a card to keep in the mulligan-freely throw out slams and eternal toll to cycle, but try to combo it with a removal/saving 1dmg on torch-be judicious about which aoe you choose to use, taking out a 3hp minion with the weapon comes up often and if you have weapon/searing fissure you often want to punch face to get the chip damage you need
Only reason why ramp druid isn't a tier -1 deck is because rogue is broken and people like to play rogue. Without rogue present, druid would have a 99% winrate
>>570963751paladin and shaman are worse matchups for Druid>>570962041also forgot to mention, Druid and Egg Warrior are unwinnable just concede immediately
>>570906797This isn't Blizzard bias, it's the playerbase's. Many stronger decks exist.
>>570964789what's funny is that this version of Face Hunter might actually be one of the decks with more decisions to make and people still shit on it lmaoI get the appeal of Rogue tho
>switch to priest>first shaman in like 50 games suddnely appearsnigger game
I hope ultra diaper is 60% wr next expansionHearthstone needs to be finished off
2 hours until the next card SAVES us for real this time
>just opened the last herald class legendary>still haven't opened deathwing tho so I can't actually use any of themwhat a COOL game mechanic to place into packs instead of the reward track / events / free lego
>>570972945you can use dust to craft cards. hope this helps
>is your rng card better than my rng card?that's all this game feels like now.
>>570973316crafting / disenchanting is a scam "mechanic" and I shan't be participating in it
holy shit I'm so fucking good at this game
>>570974862i can't evell whats going on. sorry it happened or congrats broi'm 0 and 12 in the brawl now
>>570974862great turn, but not a guaranteed win hope you won
>>570974862def brickable if you went all in and low roll on rider and announcer
>>570978274it's guaranteed lethal but thanks for the input bronzie
>>570919290in diamond everything is good
>>570974862>year 20+26>berserker still kills peoplebuttttt powercreep......
2 minutes until filler common.
Nevermind it's a yeti that lets you see 3 cards in the opponent's hand and get coins.
>>570984283why does this shit cost 4, it should be 3 mana 3/4
>>570984283actually good in tourney meta 2 mana 4/5 with scout ability
>>570984283honestly an interesting mechanic but at 4 mana I doubt it's gonna find a spot in decksdenying your opponent the optimal mana play lest they risk giving you coins could make for some interesting mindgames, but yeah, 4 mana, no way, that's way too expensive for a niche card with ultimately inconsequential effect
>>570985895imagine it procs and you turn 5 Aya with hand full of coins (jades) literally game over for opponent
>>570985824can disrupt their next turn possibly
>>570984283>coins>looking at enemy handoh so its just a rogue card
>>5709860913 coins is just enough to cast the new Mage spell on turn 5 and double trigger.
>>570977994>>570974862fuck I thought the reborn minion was the 1/4 poisonous oop
>>570986091>rogue preps vanessa>drop that>???
>>570984283>we couldn't give rogue 3 legendaries: the card
>>570989049>preps a minion
>>570989049effect only next turn bro.... you might be dead at that time
>>570991005yes, the gimmick is called "prepare"
>>570984283Incredible, they actually made two neutral legendaries specifically for rogue
>>570993314my bad I forgot that's what it is called lol Vanessa will be of no issue once this Stormwind-tier powercreep dropsthis is going to impact wild too that's how strong this set is lmao
>>570984283Can't Cora and Team 5 AT LEAST pretend this expansion wasn't made with the full intention of push Rogue to the skies? I mean you can favored a class but design even the neutrals for it? That should be a red line faggots.
>>570995021many such cases
>>570995519dont worry algo fix this problem when you start playing rogue (you vanessa finley and Aya on bottom)great 50% wr equelaizer
>>570995021stop noticing
I don't know if this expansion will do anything but a lot of cards do have interesting text this time around
>>571001948I agreecacaclysm was such a lame ass expac compared to this
>>571003067ungoro electric boongaloo even worse....
>log in>hunter still face you with tolvir>play for quests log offLiterally nothing changes i dont think expansion would do something
>>571008213>Wins next game because algo
>>570984283minor correction. "investigate" actually lets you look at FOUR cards in your opponents hands. lmao
>>570954298Hunter has been the dev's favorite class since Hearthstone inception...Fuck Ben Brode, in particular...
>>571011070so its literally 1 mana 4/5 vs aggro
>>571015287more of a 4 mana discount your deathwing by 3 vs aggro
>>571015473it would be funny tech vs aggro tolvir.... yes play tolvir but give me 3 coins for Aya/DW/any hi cost card lmao
>>570794878>Hearthstone General>2026Just buy a rope already.
>>571015287More like >4 mana 4/5 that has a consitional chance to give you three coins that the opponent can play around Reverse mana cheat is never as good as regular mana cheat
Is this like Balatro?
>>571019565no this is like Gwent
I like trains Feral Druid.HS is still a shitty game though
>>571015862They only get something like 1 Yuan per 10 post. Before tax and utilities.There's no way in hell they could afford a rope sturdy enough to neck themselves.
>>571019565it's like cbt.
>>571024612cognitive behavioral therapy?
>>571025385Cock & Ball Torture. Obviously.Must be a priest player.
I miss the good old control mirrors of Whizbang era. Genuinely the most fun I've had from a standard cycle.
>>571023717>only 1(one) bad cardwhat did the devs mean by this, almost every card is a minimum 3 stars
>>571028829Fuck I miss festival of legends like you wouldn't believe...
>>571032659>>571028829psychos
>>571028829i almost forgot about that dk rush card, maybe one of the most retarded cards ever printed since you could generate like 6 of them per game
aggro-lite wongame sux
>>571029819>"Me like drood. Let there be good drood cardz." -- Cora, probably.
>>571028829>The best era of the Collectible Card Game known as Hearthstone was the time when player would not build their deck at all.Grim. Grim as hell.The more I think about that fact, the grimer it gets.What a failure of a card game.
FUCKING REMOVE ANUB FROM THE ARENA POOLFUCKING TIRED OF LOSING GAMES CUZ OF LOLRANDOM SUMMONS HEY HERES AN INFINITE VALUE CARD THAT WILL KILL YOUN IN THREE TURNS IF YOU DONT HAVE A SILENCE LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>570852954If this was an arcane spell it'd be broken in wild.I do like it tho, might be good/great for tempo quest, 4 spell triggers, 3 of which progress the waygate and cost zero with magister's out.
>>571044262well why didnt you have a silence anon? lmao
>>571028829the controlslop meta of punishing your opponent for running good cards by copying them needs to go away forever if you want this game to be healthy
>>571049720beating your opponent with their bullshit is peak hearthstone. hence why burgle tess rogue is patrician tier
>>571050145>putting 0 effort in your deckbuilding and strategy and just stealing my opponent's cards and replaying them with manacheat and more times because i'm not limited by the 1/2 card limit ispeak actuallyrogue/priest faggots are the most subhuman niggers in the world
>>571050373go play aggro-lite
Why Aggrotards are dominating the game? Seriously anyone can stomach this absolute garbage of a meta? Boardstone is such a huge pile of stinky shit...
>>571050885its what zeddy wanted so this is what we gonna get
this rarran guy is kind of fucking retarded
I like the Sky Golem trinket.
i'm just very sad the average is of this game players can't handle the existence of good combo decks.
4 hours to go bros
>>571057310whats getting revealed today?
>>571057420DK and Paladin stream.
>>571057420coras suicide note
>enter arena>dk+rogue, based>two herald classes>get offered zero herald cardhard not to feel like this game hates me in particular
>>571057420dk hunter paladin in 4 hours
>no hype for dk cardsbros..
9/10 games in current hearthstone are non-games
>>571064637How can i be hyped when i know in less than 15 days i will get my ass handled to me by fucking Rogue/Warrior.
it's actually shocking how devoid of any strategy arena is right nowherald is so fucking broken, nothing matters, you get plenty of cards and tempojust hit face every single turn starting from 1
This card is pure, unfiltered cancer. Definitely my least favourite card in standard. You either get the most retardedly broken card in the history of hearthstone (1 mana shaladrasil or the deal 10) or you get muradins last stand, alternatively you get a guaranteed 1 mana typhoon that keeps being shuffled so it can be played again. Fuck this card and whoever made it.
Game is so shit the queue time is over 2 minutes
preorders must be tracking badly, they added signature vanessa to the paygod bundle as an extra bonus with a server side patch just now
>>571073835they really ought to lower pricesno one's spending 80 on a fucking cardgame... i mean, i hope no one doesyou could buy like 16 terrarias with that money
>>571074062>no one's spendingmaybe you're not. First world paypigs have no problem spending 800
Why do decks that are so dumb have to be so good at times? They just shit out every animal card get 10 mana at turn 7 or 8 then continue to shit out cards. I don't think I will play a single deck at 5 diamond that takes thought and just go into a trance because I suck at this anyway.
>>571074062the price is way too much. if I'm paying for an expansion then I want every single card + miniset. this here is $240 a year for less than half the cards (by dust value) each expansion and the MTX store still exists with all the cosmetics / siggys. who one earth would spend money on this shit as is?
>>571075954even if that were the case (it's not), spending 1/10th of your luxury funds on a few packs and some mid cosmetics is not worth it when you could use it to buy a better game, go out to some nice restaurant, buy a physical thing,or do anything else with that reallyit's just for whales pbsessed with hs and that can only take you so far
>>571077584>buy a better gameI do that>go out to some nice restaurantI do that>buy a physical thingI do that>buy a few packs and some mid cosmeticsI do thatDamn it must suck to be poor. Why don't you get a job?
>>571074062you do forget there are trannies HERE that buy sig/diamond cards and pets every single week
I like the part where if you buy both preorder bundles and then dooost all dupes, and signatures, you will still be 18k dust short of completing the expansion
This game at this point is for whales and whales only.If you are fucking poor you should look out for another game.
>>571079989just play bg and farm the packs and free rewards, i guess
anyone else still having the disconnect issue in the middle of the game? it occurs randomly for some reason since the last 2 updates and they STILL haven't fixed it, why can't they fix the most important shit, like ALLOWING US TO HAVE A DECENT GAMING EXPERIENCE and HAVING A BETTER RECONNECT FEATURE THAN RANDOM CHINK/GOOK 3D GACHAS?
30 minutes until doubters are btfo
30 minutes until paladin kino
>>571078308we call them zeddy watchers
>>570853487jesus christ did they really run out of secret ideas?they need a secret focused set that introduces several secrets at a cost higher than three so they can try new stuff without being restricted by 3 mana value effects, same thing for other classes.
>>571083873>did they really run out of secret ideas?yesbut also the mage one is different because it has the added bonus of being a transform effect
Can I erase Rogue Pally and Druid from this game?
stream is live
i'm so glad fatfuck zeddy will die in my lifetime bros!!!
Holy shit thats a big NOSE
I love the mute tab functionality in good browsers
>>571085481STOP PRINTING "SUMMON A RANDOM X-COST MINION" CARDS HOLY SHIT UNCREATIVE FUCKING NIGGER DEVS
>>571085481Beast hunter is getting out of hand uh?
HUNTER HAS BETTER SPELLS THAN MAGEOFC OFC
holy shit kill hunter devs and the faggots that play it
>>571085679>pandamonkchads riseeeeee
>>5710856793 mana deal 15 is okay but warrior has 3 mana deal 18
ofc premium weapon thats draws your shit....
unironically kill hunterfags
>>571085679Why Hunter can get mass removal? Shouldn't Hunter be the class of Board development and big minions?
>>571085889this is such a retarded fucking card holy shit i expected hunter to get favouritism but are you serious with this shit?
Hunter the better MageHAHAHAHAHAHA
OFC 1 mana 1/3 OMG
>another really good one drop for hunter lmaoooooooo
>>571086248FUCKING STOP
AND ANOTHER PREMIUM MINION
if you play hunter you should be ashamed of yourself.
HunterCHADS we are CEMENTED
>>571086324NO BRAKES
>>571086493welp
>>571086493NO CRYING IN CASI.... VIOLENT HOLDAND ANOTHER GOOD CARD.... now its location
>location with absolute valueI wanna scream.
literally impossible to make a bad hunter card
STOP WITH THE FUCKING SUMMON RANDOM X-COST MINION SPELLS HOLY SHIT FUCKING HELLWHY AM I SO FUCKING MAD OVER THIS ASININE SHIT
So the dominant classes will remain dominant uh?
oh you left something on the board for hunter? go fuck yourself SYNERGY
>>571085679>meteor hunter
how is possible all hunter cards are miles away from mage/priest class? cora isn't a videogame designer? how can she be this incompetent?
>>571086939you play two 4 cost minions i play it on EGG we not the same
>pure paladini knew it'd be the package when they revealed the legendary
i like that everything has no downside then there's the mage legendary that fireballs your face every time you reroll
>>571087519WTF is this ?>pure paladin>a fucking orc
>>571085481too slow and random won't see play>>571085679might see play in companion hunter as a good board control option >>571085889Same as above but this one is hard to say>>571086248Probably won't see play. 1 cost hunter already has the smorc elf card >>571086493Really good card with insane value. Will probably see play in all hunters>>571086704Pretty good draw option. Will likely see play everywhere>>571086785Really slow and random. Doubt will see play >>571086939Prepare trigger deathrattle is scary, but there's nothing good to trigger for hunter right now so probably will see no play
>>571087519humiliation ritual card
>>571087519Why that orc looks like some kind of pigtail crazy girl?
>>571087724Saronite Chain gang bros...
>>571087724it's really strong with handbuffs
>>571087519transcoded
>shit ass expensive weapon
>>571087884ANON........ THEY NERFED that shit 10 years ago
>>571087884no? it does not summon copies
>>571087932didn't warrior have this effect but on a 3 cost weapon back in nathria?>>571087986FUCK i misread
could be good
Hunter really will just play itself at this point
interesting
lol what
>>571088340>leave 1 big minion>you dead>develop big board>paladin turns your board into 1/1sLmao but 6 mana even with prepare is big cost
>>571088340sure give paladin giga bloodlust, why not.
boring
DK bros... I don't feel good...
>summon a 1/1 with charge
>>571088909>2 poison runesJust telling us not to even bother with Onyxia.
>>571087519will see play in racist paladin, but racist paladin is bad>>571087724Insane card for racist paladin, but racist paladin is bad>>571087932dust>>571088131remains to be seen with missing pally cards, but probably bad>>571088271pretty scary card for OTKs, but having 1 big minion and many smaller guys for pally isn't quite feasible for their decks atm
thats kinda really good
>>5710891297 hp in current economy ? WTF ?
>>571089129Better Gorishi and mass corpse generator.
>2 mana deal 6lmao
>>571088976>but having 1 big minion and many smaller guys for pally isn't quite feasible for their decks atmyou could also buff something then buff everything else afterwards, or summon a minion with big attack on a board of tiny guys
Is DK supposed to play aggro now?
I guess the first DK miniset is going to be Frost because they are getting nothing.
>>571089337damn those aren't bad at all for herald
WHERE IS FROST????FROOOOOOOOOOOST
>>571089745>0 mana draw 6 refresh 6
>>571089745WTF is this DH Druid Rogue abomination
>>571089745a dk card with good text on it, didn't see that coing
BLIZZARD FUCKING HATES YOU IF YOU PLAY MAGE
>>571089530I know people are (rightfully) focusing on sawbones but this guy is gonna be summoning some good shit.>Hollow Direhorn>Runthak>Grizzly>Blob of Tar>Steamcleaner if you are against hunter
>>571089530so how easy will it be to get 5 corpses by turn 3?
>>571089810>draws remnant of rage
good to see dk get a bunch of busted ass cardsmust have been a scary 2 weeks where the class didnt have a top tier deck
>>571089792what this guy said >>571089480
>>571089745>Leave token board up>Talanji Last Stand, Sawbones, Talanji again
>>571085889>gets replayed by tolvirIVE SEEN ENOUGH! NERF THIS TO 2 MANA
don't forget the last (?) batch of free packs next tuesday
mage rule breaker please be good
>>571088340hey, if you use this on a 0 attack minion wont you board lock your enemy easy?
>>571091613lol yeah probably
>>571091613im sure token druid leave 1 slot just for hatcher helper if this card was abused
>>571091613the moment they see you prepare they will leave slots open or hold board buff cards
>>571091613>can turn the entire board into 0/2 turds with the eggdidn't even think of that, control pally is back on the menu
>>571093814is sound good on paper... in reality druid just play board buff and wipe youmight be a thing vs face/companion hunter because they usually dont have own board clears and rely on summoning things
>>571093998>>571093814could board lock a DK now since they also seem to be able to build wide
>>571094126bad idea vs unholy
The state of this garbage game, holy shit
>>571096804should have played around it
dude. this fucking sucks. lmao.
>>571085679lol hunter is going to be a better cycle rogue
rat catcher is also going to duplicate eruptions lmao
>>571099657you will be dead in wild before you play Insindus and then rat
>>571100456 I thought incindius was in standard for some reason.
>>571099657lmao this anon shifted from a different timeline
>>571087932which paladin minions? in hand or on field?
>>571104654field
oh yeah..... its all coming together.......
>>571106536>>571106537>1 second apparthivemindthis does make the combo much more responsive, infinity egg paladin might actually be a thing
>>571086493this is really strange art, modern warcraft art is usually exaggerated but is a straight 1:! of an irl dog