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Most Recent Releases
KINGDOM HEARTS collections (I.5+II.5, II.8, III + Re Mind (DLC)) available on PC, PS4, XBOX, Switch (Cloud)
2003 Lost Kingdom Hearts Pilot Animatic (archived copy): https://archive.org/details/kingdom-hearts-pilot-animatic

NEWS
Kingdom Hearts IV will launch simultaneously on Nintendo Switch 2, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox on PC, Epic Games Store and Steam
The Kingdom Hearts Collection [I~III] features KH 1.5+2.5, 2.8 and III + Re Mind (DLC). Launching October 8 on Nintendo Switch 2, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S and Xbox on PC.
Sales of Kingdom Hearts Nintendo Switch Cloud Version have ended. Existing owners can play until June 9, 2027, and get a 50% discount Nintendo Switch 2 versions via Nintendo eShop. Save data can be transferred to digital versions.

New Trailers
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Lore Resources
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Mobile games
KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ Dark Road is now delisted but you can watch the story on Youtube or download the apk to experience the story yourself

Union χ[Cross] scenes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPCJnwphQDQcJOkD9OsmxxMHX7YHE4WP2
Uχ scene compilations: https://roboloid.github.io/khux/theater
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KH Missing Link leaks:
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PC Version Mods and Patch Manager
https://github.com/AntonioDePau/KHPCPatchManager
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https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomhearts3

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>>570798663
Is this guy going to be Sigurd or a completely new character?
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I can understand people thinking Disney has a had in how worlds play, but I think they're overestimating how much that company influences worlds chosen. You think Disney would want to advertise Alice in Wonderland in 2002? Tron in 2005? Fantasia and Pinocchio in 2012? Hercules, Monsters Inc., and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End in 2019?

We got Frozen because Nomura wanted it, and that's still somehow a hard pill to swallow.
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I saw this on Twitter the other day
Is this the correct watching order for the mobile game?
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>>570798663
good jaw bro
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Maybe Max will show up in KH 4 since it could be a parallel to Sora growing up.
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It's over
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Boas fight soon
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>>570810624
*Boss
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Boas soon.
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>Play KH2
>Get a little sad knowing that Wayne Allwine and Russi Taylor are both no longer with us
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>>570807554
It would be weird if Goofy didn't have a kid for 10 games and out of thin air he's a father now
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>>570811907
he's always been one, you just didn't ask
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>>570811907
goofy knew donald zettaflare before he use it
he know things we dont....
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Should really get a PC that could run a UE5 game at 60fps before IV releases
>these prices
Ah who am I kidding, I'll just stick with the PS5
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Do any of you guys know where to get an APK for the Japanese version of UXDR?
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Any third worlders here that like Kingdom hearts? I'm Zaib from Kenya
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>>570825417
What a strange post to make
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Fuck off spammy
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>>570805678
Where is this? I've never seen KH clothing in Japan the other merchandise is easy enough
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>>570829797
At Graniph's stores.
You can also buy and preorder some of the KH clothes online
https://www.graniph.com/collection/collection_00440?srsltid=AfmBOopus6CwNHrImoJBVBm6IQ2OoFkJZoKCPbgdtX5opVcfebmfue8e
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>>570825417
How were you able to play the newer games?
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>>570798663
Soon
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>>570839883
Kairi needs to go back to showing off her tummy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtC4sjABZNw

Disney movies are getting so bland I legitimately think it's going to ruin Kingdom Hearts for me if they end up having to use shit like Hexed.

I have a deep fear that Disney Worlds in unreality will have all those shitty live action remakes.
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>>570852127
sex with hexed girl
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>>570852127
they obviously need a creative with a cohesive vision to have some sway at the higher level of the company like they used to (Walt, Jeffery Katzenberg, John Lasseter) instead of just business men.
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>>570853017
They should make Nomura the CEO of disney
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so i decided to watch to damo279's fandub to get caught up on the mobile game story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUt8q2IwR4&t=5920s
is 1:35:25 - 1:53:40 correct?
>ava witnesses aced strike gula , seriously injuring him
>then for some reason travels to underneath the tower disguised as ira to battle player and skuld so she could reveal her true plan for Ephemer and the rest of the Dandelions
>to then travel back to the alley where gula is bleeding out to prevent ira from confronting him
maybe it's just he fucked up the timeline but this part of the story is just strangely paced i guess
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>>570852606
all new Disney girls (and their moms) belong to Sora
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>>570862796
What is the original?
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>>570798663
When did you realize Xehanort in his youth abused the power of waking just like Sora?
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>>570864897
kagurabachi
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>>570865432
I knew it was familiar
Haven't kept up with it in a long ass time
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darkness within darkness
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>>570865314

MoM when he sent off Kairi in the Ark and mentioned it
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>>570865314
What did Xehanort sacrifice?
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>>570870962
His hair
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nomura is gonna make fortnite canon to kh :(
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>>570872368
I don't believe in the fortnite rumor.
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>>570873628
they added KH music to the Rocket League files
it's happening
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>>570872343
Literally me.
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>>570872343
Me on the right.
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Sorry to say this but the current realistic style they are going for looks like garbage. It's not even final fantasy tier.
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>>570852127
>having to use
Is there a single example so far of KH being mandated by Disney to use a given property?
Far as I know, the team comes up with their own ideas, and then requests Disney for permission.
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>>570881194
we're gonna get more cartoony worlds, trust the plan
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>>570884227
Chicken Little summon in KH2 probably
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>>570884227
Chicken Little got in KH2 before it's movie even debuted in Japan
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>>570884715
The team gets to see advance screenings
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>>570799160
Mel knows her stuff and does her research so yes (she's the one behind the Secret Reports YouTube channel)
Her only weakness is a complete blind spot to the JP script

The only thing wrong with that image is that the URLs for the χ[chi] secret ending are reversed

Personally I think *most* of Wreck-It Ralph is still skippable though
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>>570800436
not bad, but it could be better. any more of this around?
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>>570865314
The implications that Xehanort abused the Power of Waking are kind of crazy, because unless Xehanort lost his memories or never encountered Luxu/Xigbar, it means he knowingly brought Luxu into OrgXIII 60ish years later.
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>>570885696
I need to watch the video she released last month.
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>>570865314
>kills people to turn them into hollow husks
>sacrifices young teenagers to get a new body
>also kills himself in his new body to be split into two
>time travels essentially creating a timeloop
>Kingdom Hearts Universe decides he get away scot-free
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You know when Kingdom Hearts autism is real shit, when Sora first released in Smash some people saw the particle effects of the little platform Mario was standing on fade into light and instantly thought of Kingdom Hearts,
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>>570884656
>>570884715
>>570884849
— The summon roster has changed since the last game. How were these four characters chosen?

Kanemori: Lilo & Stitch was a fairly new movie back when we first started development, so there were a lot of people asking for Stitch within the company. We made the decision to include him at a very early stage.

As for Chicken Little, when we were trying to decide who to choose as summons, we found ourselves struggling to find the perfect fit. I thought, in that case, it might be interesting to use a character from a movie that hadn't been released yet.

Kando: It was a spur-of-the-moment decision. Since it's a brand new movie, we didn't have any material to work with, so I had to watch the trailer over and over again to make the motions (laughs).

Kanemori: Genie is inherently able to transform, so we wanted to try and make use of that skill. Originally, we planned to have him transform into a martial artist or a guardsman. In the end, various aspects proved difficult to realize, so after some back and forth, we decided to settle on Form Changes.

Peter Pan was chosen because he was a popular character in the original game. The item used to summon him is found in a treasure chest in Port Royal, which offers a "connection" through the shared use of pirates.
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>>570889006
The Kingdom Hearts universe considers dumping things into Unreality to not be its problem. Sora ripped a hole in the fabric of the universe and got sent there despite the fact he eas pretty dangerous to it. Im assuming some power like that was taken away though (and that might be the excuse to level 1 sora again this game.)
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>>570884227
I keanr having to use as in one day there won't be any good modern movies left for them to use. The most recent Disney movie I liked was 10 years ago now...
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>>570893884
Well, loathe as some fans are to the idea, the option to reuse worlds is always there (and I think they should)
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>>570871645
This was the weirdest retcon even weirder than Mickey's shirt. At least Young Xehanort the 14th will grow up and not br a baldlet
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>>570893648
It would be more accurate to say Sora got evicted
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>>570894029
It would be nice to see Wonderland outside of that weird box thing they were going for in 1, and DS graphics and Lilo and Stitch's Hawaii. Wreck it Ralph outside of the gacha too. A lot of modern movies have sequels so idk if that would count as reusing worlds/not using bad worlds. Like I want to return to Tron but I guess Id be tron ares.
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>>570894520
>It would be nice to see Wonderland outside of that weird box thing they were going for in 1
After KH1/CoM/Days/Recoded, I'm so fucking exhausted of visiting those same worlds. BUT if they made Wonderland feel huge like an actual world, I'm all in.
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>get recommended a Kingdom Hearts theory video about sleeping beauty parallels with KH and especially the KH4
>its actually just another Riku is gay video in disguise
>but you don't know that till 15 minutes in
>10 of that is explaining what KH is

Kill all "video essayists'
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>>570902057
another sleeping realms theory victim
we have support groups for that
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>>570798663
Still can't believe KH4 got announced in a fucking tendie direct of all things. It doesn't even look like KH anymore.
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>>570903393
the flood gates were opened when this happened
anything is possible
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>>570852127
I just can't be assed to sweat over world choices when it always comes down to execution rather than the film's quality. The Little Mermaid? Great movie. Atlantica, both versions? Yeesh.
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>>570903393
KH4 got announced in the kh 20th anniversary event
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Most Keyblade Wielders are Maleficent victims unironically and chances are everyone who's OC is canon thanks to 3 is fodder.

Lauriam couldn't win 1v1 and he's a leader everyone else is fodder. Player won but he's twice as strong as the union leaders and the Dandelios are already the best of the fodder.
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>>570893648
>Im assuming some power like that was taken away though (and that might be the excuse to level 1 sora again this game.)

Already confirmed in Remind.
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dorkness
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>>570908638
yeah for me disney worlds only matter for "videogame level" potential.
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light within light
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>>570909957
Yeah I was thinking about that a while ago. If the upper classmen jobbed to Maleficent, then Eraqus put in a shit load of work with TAV considering Aqua was able to beat her. And then think about how Sora was able to do it as well.
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I bet Maleficent is a bad bitch underneath those robes
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>>570923260
Keyblade wielders just get better with every generation, I suppose
Save for old prodigies like the Lost Masters and Xehanort
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>>570923515
glad I'm not the only one who's thought about this
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>>570920137
This.
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT DISNEY
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>>570923515
shut up Pete
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>>570924409
>this movie flopped cause of ice age
>ice age now belongs to disney, and they're making a new one
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>>570924436
Doesn't Pete already have a wife?
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Is a shame neither X cross nor Dark road could get this treatment
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>>570928054
In some continuities both Pete and Goofy have sons. Apparently not here though.
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>>570929068
You could easily do both. UX is a bit tricky if they want to do it properly.
NG should be just [chi], then you do NG+ and realize you're in Unchained X, after that you get a second campaign that covers Union X [cross].

Dark Road is perfect for a short 5-10 hour game.
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>>570929068
If only it weren't for those nier guys>>570808443
We need a Re:Union X
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>>570935052
Unchain X and union ax remake with darl road as dlc
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What happened to those shounen slop sora does in 2
He barely did them in 3 except that one scene in the big hero six world
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>>570942092
>What happened to those shounen slop sora does in 2
People didnt like them, so they were removed.
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>>570942092
Unwashed masses complained about press triangle to win and now we have to live with the consequences.
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>>570808443
I felt the most likely the next one will be Re:Universe to adapt Polka's Story.
NieR and KH both will have focus in their next game but doubt Taro nor Nomura want to focus on that
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>>570942092
KH takes fan criticism very seriously
https://youtu.be/FC-avN1eDoQ
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>>570894053
>At least Young Xehanort the 14th will grow up and not br a baldlet
but what if he has male pattern baldness
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>>570942328
>>570942447
>>570944516
I see, criticism towards reaction commands being press to win
Fair, could've done it like the samurais and gambler reactions
Still, base kh3 sora feels less "powerful" in a way. He does have Za spells that nukes the area and form change but he's keyblade proficiency look worse in base form from presentation
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RCs are not canon anyway
Their removal was inconsequential
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>>570947228
>but he's keyblade proficiency look worse in base form from presentation
that's simply cause he canonically loses his powers and skill with every game, so much so they already made a joke about it back in 2.8
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>>570948863
I think it's funny because his "level 1" state in every new game isn't putting on the same footing as his KH1 self. I feel like he retains enough each time he reverts to where he still feels more powerful at the start of each game he's in than the start of the prior one.
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>>570949861
i mean it's not like he forgets what he did previously or anything, he's literally magically stripped of his "powers" everytime, which KH1 already had sometimes as physical objects somehow. Except for com into kh2, where he does indeed forgets that stuff too, but still
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>>570949861
I think by having sora defeat rick and ice titans who were end game bosses in kh1 in kh3s first world is a great way to show that despite losing his powers he is still more skillfull than in kh1s beginning
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>>570947482
the laser dome is canon though
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>>570923260
I mean Sora and Aqua also had help fighting her. Sora canonically has Donald, Goofy and Beast helping him, while Aqua has Prince Philip with his enchanted sword and shield. Heck even Player had Prince Philip helping them.

Holder went and faced Maleficent alone. And Maleficent didn't even kill her. Greatly weaken her but the one who actually finished her off was Baldr's Darkness. Same for the other 3. In fact, looking at the scene again, it looks like Sigrun, Hemidall and Helgi had beaten her back, or at least were still alive when his Darkness hit them from behind and killed them. Of course, we learned this from Baldr, who's actively lying about having killed Bragi so eh?

Conclusion: 1v1 Maleficent sweeps. More than that, the power of friendship saves the day (or at least let's you limp through it).
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>>570950865
>Conclusion: 1v1 Maleficent sweeps
With the sole exception of my GOAT data-sora of course
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https://www.unrealengine.com/news/the-road-to-ue-6

can't wait for Kingdom Hearts 5
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>>570952345
5 is still full of fucking shit
what the hell is 6 suppose to do?
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>>570952067
TRUE! Can't be believe I forgot Data-Sora (I can, actually. The amount of times I needed to restart that section because I wanted to go in with a full Wind Spin for my speed run trophy... Nope! Repressing!).
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I am still hoping that the giga drill RC from the first KH4 trailer is real cause Sora used the darkness energy coming out of Neo Darkside's fist after he blocked it
Sora finally tapping into that darkness on his own free will would be something
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Kingdom Hearts before:
>Wholesome game for children about cartoons
Kingdom Hearts now:
>Dead serious game about anime characters fighting each other

What happened?
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>mention how I wouldn't mind seeig a Lilo and Stitch return to Hawaii
>just learned her voice actress died today so she wouldn't be able to reprise her even if it did happen

Damn
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>>570955678
>What happened?
kingdom hearts 2 trying to be more anime
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>>570956527
You say that like Sora vs Riku/Ansem posessing Riku wasnt a huge part of KH1. And Sephiroth was a beloved superboss. And Mystery Nigga happened. COM did the organization first too.
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>>570955678
XIII Versus got cancelled
Supposedly it would've been connected to KH more than just cameos like cloud, leon amd the gang yeah? It's going to be the edgy side while KH remains whimsical with some edge like 2
Then it got canned and now here we are, Nomura putting his love anger, sorrow and everything into KH for better or worse
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>>570956828
I can't see KH4 not being whimsicle even with the themes of death, realism and Versus 13 stuff. Wasn't Versus 13 inspired by stuff like Romeo + Juliet (the weird modern remake) and thought abouf making a musical at one point (not sure it was a joke or not.)

We already know Hades is going to be important and will go with the themes of death. Donald and Goofy will meet him.l and Mickey is going to be exploring the mysteries of Scala ad Caelum. Makeficent and Pete have some sort of plan to get the box which ties her and Pete into it all. (Oh god imafine Quadratum Maleficent and Pete.) There's also been a bigger focus in Disney Merlin like characters being important to the bigger lore, so I don't think that would stop. Like Fairy Godmother in MoM and Magic Mirror in Dark Road. And you can still have whimsey in the Versus 13 parts it doesnt just have to be Disney.
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>>570952638
>what the hell is 6 suppose to do?
delay kingdom hearts 4 while they switch to it from 5
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>>570947482
All of them were canon. Even that one.
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>>570955678
>What happened?
Goofy died.
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>>570955678
KH1 is the darkest game though
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>>570955678
The secret endings to KH1 btw
https://youtu.be/fOtXZp3B-tc
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>>570956728
>You say that like Sora vs Riku/Ansem posessing Riku wasnt a huge part of KH1
While riku is indeed very anime, i would argue that the final bosses of 1 and 2 are very different in feeling. For example the "ship phase", world of chaos is you and your pals flying around this scary but cartoonish enemy and hitting these cartoony weak points and then slapping him in the face while he swings around every once in a while. On the other hand we have world of nothing/armored controller, where you slash throught buildings in that shonen anime way where the damage appears with a delay, then you parkour around the ship throwing enemies into the reactors until they explode, and later you throw whole buildings at him while your partner rides them.
Then there is their "human" phase. Ansem is very jafar coded where he is this wizard floating around throwing magic energy balls at you and occasionally ramming at you. Xemnas is this black black leather coated hooded guy teleporting kicking and throwing you around, cloning himself, shooting lasers at you and jumping from a skyscraper to clash with you. Even their deaths feel very different, ansem is defeated by giving him what he wanted in a way he didnt want and disappearing, think of jafar or the horned kings defeats. Xemnas gets this action cutscene where he is comboed around and shot with a laser, and then growling in pain clutching his chest and fading away.
>Sephiroth was a beloved superboss
True, but he is also a pre established character with a pre established fighting style.
>And Mystery Nigga happened.
>COM did the organization first too.
These were done to give a taste of whats to come in kh2
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>>570956448
>she was also the ring girl
>which she did the very same year as lilo
anyway big sad, especially given she was just like 35+ yo
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>>570852127
They could always reuse worlds, especially with Disney doubling down on sequels for their successful properties.
It will probably take a while before things get stale, and with each game now taking ages to come out, I doubt Nomura will work another arc/saga after this one.
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>>570924409
It was planned for DDD and got scrapped early in development
rip bozo
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>>570955678
>>Dead serious game about anime characters fighting each other
it's always been that way bro
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>>570955678
This is where storylines with Hero's Journey always lead. The Fish Out Of Water aspects of the early games cannot be replicated with experienced more mature Sora.
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Is there a recommend youtube video that compiles the story/cutscenes for the mobile games? Preferably without any filler. I feel like now is a better time than any to get caught up on that stuff.
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>>570973146
damo's fandub is decent
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>>570973146
read the OP
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>>570973146
The playlist that's in the OP 8a pretty much the thing you're looking for. Out of all the Disney worlds, the Wreck it Ralph world is the only one where you have to watch the cutscenes since they have important plot relevant shit in there
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Any reliable guide anywhere for quick megalixr farming in KH2?
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>>570976050
Living Bones drop elixirs in the pride lands.
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>>570947228
Sora has access to shit that would take you and hour to get in previous main games. He has dodge, gaurd and counter, all off the start. And by the end of the first level he's already as strong as he was near the end of the very first game and at least as good as he is near the first few worlds of KH2. He also can do all of that shit in the air and has airstep and shotlocks(which are a gameplay abstraction, one of them is literally just ragnarok). Nomura even said he gets keyblade transformations to show off his mastery of the keyblade. It's why I hope he has keyblade transformations in KH4, if he doesn't it feels like a huge regression.
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>>570950481
He casually blocks multiple chunks of buildings that the tornado titan throws at him.
>>570956828
I've yet to see a source for that claim. Certainly Nomura said he wanted to step away from the light cheerfulness and optimism of KH and into a more pessimistic and realistic world, and even made Noctis Sora's opposite on purpose, but actually bringing stuff from KH into FF or vice versa isn't anything he's mentioned far as I can tell.
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the discourse around gameplay can be so tiring, but the fact more people are conceding that KH2 can also be floaty feels like a step in the right direction
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>>570984901
One thing I don't get is they seemed to set aside the potential relationship Roxas and Namine had in KH 2. It's as if they hoped everyone would forget while building chemistry for them both.
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>>570987057
They haven't spent any time together since then right? Not like they've had the ability to, but I see your point.
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>>570955678
You can only believe this if you only played KH1 and never made it to Hollow Bastion
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>>570987057
The whole 5 minutes they spent together.
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I just had a cursed thought.

>Sora's hair is brown
>So is Squall's
>Sora has copied some of Squall's poses (see one of his victory poses in smash for example)

>We never see Sora's mom anywhere ever since her O.S voice in KH1
>if i vaguely recall, Sora's room in the KH1 prologue had some motifs reminiscent of stuff related to a certain FF character whose name starts with R. I could be going insane and misremembering things though. Probably the latter

>Quadratum is a thinly veiled reference to Final Fantasy Versus XIII, the original Final Fantasy XV, a "fantasy based on reality"
>Yozora, aka "Not-Noctis", has (iirc) a love interest whose hair is long and *black* (sound familiar?)
>Said love interest is theorized to also be named Sora ("Why did you take the name Sora?" - Yozora fighting OUR Sora) as a plot point for... reasons
>Versus XIII is not the first FF based on reality
>Nomura's favorite numbers are 7 and 13
>7 = VII, 13 = XIII
>Remove II from VII and X from XIII and you get...

FITHOS
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>>570993775
>Selphie from FF8 is one of the first FF characters you meet in KH, alongside FFX characters but I digress
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>Squall (a sudden storm) and Rinoa (associated with light and morning). What do storms and light exist in?
>Remember Sora's very first character design before Disney stepped in? He was a lion boy wielding a chainsaw-like blade. Who else has a massive lion motif and a mechanical sword?
>Rinoa's surname is Heartilly
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>Liberi Fatali translates directly from Latin to "Fated Children" or "Children of Destiny."
>Where did Sora grow up?
>Destiny Islands
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>Destiny 2 dies the same day KH4 had a new trailer
Wait, this doesn't have any relevance to anything.
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light!
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Speaking of squall
Where the fuck is Rinoa in KH?
Dead?
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More twilight town
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>>571002331
Same thing that happened to Strelitzia
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>Quadratum is latin for square
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>>570997807
I saw a quote from a magazine here that said Nomura mad Destiny Islands because he loved the beach in the ff8 intro which he woked on but I can never find it for proof.

Everyone in FF8 except Rinoa grew up on a beach too. Edea's orphanage was right next to one. Apparently so did Nomura but I don'rt have proof either lol.
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>>571004539
I've been having these weird thoughts lately...
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>>571004210
Oh shit so that's why they changed the triangle wave aura thingy of the RC to a square shape
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I'll be here...
Why?...
I'll be 'waiting' here...
For What?
I'll be waiting...for you...so...
If you come here...
You'll find me.
I promise.
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>>571005010
>The FF8 into has what looks like clukd have inspired Radiant Garden, Destiny Islands, KBG

>>570993775
>The moon is in the sky almost every outside shot in FF8
>The moon is featured prominently in Versus 13 trailers and KH3 secret ending
>The FF8 moon is a gigantic red and blue eye
>Yozora has red and blue eyes in whatever body he is in
>FF8s moon is controlled by a giant black box

>>570994162
It was going to be Irvine at first but Nomura couldnt make his design fit DI enough.
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>>571002331
Leon gets a letter from her in the KH2 credits. This is pretty much all we got.
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Nomura isn't remaking Versus XIII in KH4, hes been remaking FFVIII through KH this entire time from start to finish.
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>>571008242
>>FF8s moon is controlled by a giant black box
MOTHER FUCKER
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>>570923260
Yeah and aside from Player no one actually 1v1s Maleficent. Ventus had fairies and Maleficent didn't go full power, Aqua had Philip. Sora had DG & Beast.
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>>571008725
>imagine if beta Sora wasnt a Lion he was a Moomba this whole time
>Heart time travel works like Ellone's mind junction time travel
>a massive amount of war orphans made up Squall's generation which reminds me of KHUX or Dark Road
>Maleficent is a bitch just like all the bitches in FF8
>Sorcerer Hyne was said to be split into two sort of like the Nobody and Heartless

You might be onto something...
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>>571009106
Player didn't 1v1 her either. They also had Prince Philip help.
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>>571009139
The Hyne shit is the weirdest shit and I say that as a fan of KH. Its barely explained but the origin for everything and reminds me of a really dark version of KH. And its not even half as weird ad Fabula Nova Cryasalis lore. And we know Ff8 had a lot of cut stuff and I bet they had a ton of ideas for it.

>God who created humans to use as tools to move a mountain
Bigger dick than MoM
>falls asleep
Ever since FF8 there have been sleep themes in his games. Dreaming into the past in 8. ff10. all over kingdom hearts.
>wakes up burns all the children due to overpopulation
>people revolt
>Offers up half his body which has magic
>Escapes with the other half
>He tricked humans and only gave them his discarded skin
Nobodies are just bodies and if you ever look at the enemies they're weird skin things
>One part escapes and its power survives in girls and women
Shades of what would become the Darkness and Princesses of Light?


Also...this is why I wish a real FF crossover happened in KH and not just alternate universe counterparts. Imagine if this crazy shit or jenova shit was canon.
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Also Hyne is a skeleton... and nomura fucking loves skeletons. Holy shit what if the Master of Masters was a skeleton? We need more skeletons in KH. Fuck the chinese for being scared of skeletons.
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>>570987057
We know from Nomura that the early conception for Roxas leaving was "because of a girl" they probably intended it to be Namine at some point, but then they wrote Days and thought yeah NVM about that.
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>>571008780
>Day VIII
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Im too tired to make a schizo post about this but just I wonder how much of Fabula Nova Crysalis lore will be reused or interpreted in a different way for Kingdom Hearts 4/Verum Rex/Quadratum? Or is Nomura just reusing other stuff and doesnt care about that Etro shit?

He did write the lyrics to Somnus so I think those will be important, but they're very vague.

To be honest I dont even fully understand this lore. I never played ff13. And the way I do understand it is that that they made a fictional shared mythology for people to base games on. But it would be like how there are different adaptation of real life myths. The unseen realm sounds like Quadratum that's all I know.
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>>571004210
>It's unreality
>a world of fiction
>a Fantasy so to speak
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>>571011619
>And people who have died or met an unrecoverable fate are sent there (see Sora and Strelitzia) for reasons
>You could even say this is their FINAL fantasy
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>IV * 2 = VIII
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>Yozora's boss theme is Nachtflugel
>German for "nightwing"
>night
>wing
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>>571012982
>Rinoa has a crossbow
>So does Yozora
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>long black hair
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Nort is part of the gang now. Islanders stick together
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>>570987057
Because, like many things in KH2, it had no build up whatsoever. Roxas meets Namine the first time, she tells him she wanted to meet him, and that's it. The second time she tells him some bullshit about his real name that he brushes off and focuses on Riku being the guy who mugged him. Then she tells he was never supposed to exist. THEN she tells him he'll disappear and he never hears what she says after. Then at the END of the game he suddenly says they;ll be together when Sora and Kairi are, as if they had any development to become actually closer.

KH2's story is so fucking weird, because it clearly has set ups and conlcusions to those payoffs but they DON'T SHOW SHIT TO BUILD IT UP. It's like how Kairi gets kidnapped offscreen by the Organization kicking Axel's ass offscreen, DiZ fucking vanishes after Sora wakes up and says all his plans were ruined by Sora even though Sora didn't do shit or even know DiZ existed but he has an offscreen change of heart stated in a secret report, or how Namine fucking disappears till the end of the game for no reason made worse in KH2FM because they added and extra cutscene about her having somewhere she wants to be I.e. Kairi, but she never fucking appears till the end of the game.
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>>571010665
>We know from Nomura that the early conception for Roxas leaving was "because of a girl" they probably intended it to be Namine at some point
Im pretty sure he said that after 2 but before days. Also namine said she wanted to meet him at least once, implying that they didnt meet while he was in the org
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I just realized

The culmination of the Dark Seeker Saga was 7 lights vs 13 darknesses.
7 Versus 13.
VII VERSUS XIII

And what's one number after VII, pray tell?

And to top it all off, the post credits scene in KH3. Kid Xehanort and Kid Eraqus get bored of the "seven light piecess vs thirteen dark pieces physical chess game" they are playing in the past. Then Eraqus decides to try a new game. Xehanort is confused. "Seven black pieces... and...?" Eraqus pulls out a lone light piece, puts it on the board, and the SCENE CUTS TO BLACK.
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MOTHERFUCKER
NOMURA YOU SLY FOX
IT'S THE SAME FUCKING SHOT
https://files.catbox.moe/39sy7c.mp4
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>>571014114
>namine said she wanted to meet him at least once
Should have just said that she pretended this was their first meeting, because he didn't remember her anymore.
Honestly I still think days would be better off without Xion and it was Roxas who met Riku/Naminé and went to Castle oblivion to look into Sora
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Will Nomura make Riku look like Riku again now that he has Yozora?
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>>571005672
Quadratum is the 4th dimension ludokino square reaction commands
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>>571005672
>thought the Flanking Shift (Turn Shift in JPN) reaction command was tied to the chains and maybe changing its directions
>it's actually for that humanoid heartless
Wonder what it does to it
Maybe deflecting it towards other enemies
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>the dog from dog street in the bouncer is angelo from ff8
>pence wears a dog street shirt even in kh3
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>>571015274
Shit that's cool.
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I'm not playing Days but I want the full story. The shit I get in the Steam bundle is just the boring text box cutscenes strung together. Anyone know of a good YouTube video so I can hear some retard go over it in isolation and detail instead? I comprehend much better via audio than reading text.
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>>571021760
the one in the remix collection is a movie, aka cutscenes where people talk. It's not a visual novel if that's what you're expecting
same with re:coded, and even though both got new cutscenes added re:coded got even more
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>>571022629
Well I'll be dang you're right. I could have sworn on my 1.5 2.5 bundle on ps4 it played just the original textbox cutscenes but I guess I remembered wrong.
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If Yozora is Sora, Aegis is Goofy, Magia is Donald, and the unnamed girl is Kairi.
Who is the Riku of Verum Rex?
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>>571029282
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>>571029282
also Yozora, cause Yozora is what Riku would've been if he didn't fall for darkness' ponzi scheme. Which imo is also why they changed his design from the "Invictus" one, in addition to avoid making another Sora-lookalike
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>Lore in KH has literal child soldiers surviving an apocalypse called DANDELIONS
>Ventus is secretly one of them, and he has no memory of that (sound familiar?)
>A dandelion could be seen as a SEED
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>Toy Box level has literal Dissidia FF displays (not simply a parody or expy) alongside the Verum Rex displays
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>desperately need to get rid of my ff8/kh derangement syndrome/autistic obsession and learn about real things
>follow channel full of esoteric occult and history stuff
>start watching something about the ring of solomon
>realize im watching it because I heard of the Ring of Solomon from the Doom Train quest in FF8 and had it in the back of my mind half forgotten
>the Rabbi PHD starts talking about how Solomon sealed 12 demons on the top of a temple
>Can't stop thinking about the Darknesses and MoM
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>>571034231
OH FUCK
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valor form is the best thats all
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What does Riku say during gameplay when you finish a combo as him in DDD and KH3? "Sorry!"
What is Squall's catchphrase? "Whatever."?
It's a mistranslation.
Of a verbal tic.
Of constantly saying SORRY.
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KH2 > KH1 > BBS > CoM > everything else I don't care > any Atlantica world > KH 3
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recoded > the rest
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>>571035878
shit taste
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>>571036290
Is this fanfic incest porn? They literally gave Sora DSLs.
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>>571036290
>Cloud cucked by a dead man
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KH3 doesn't exist, it all happened in Sora's dream.
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>>571036668
>"The entirety of KH3 is a dying dream"
Huh.
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>>571037306
>The story gets so weird people make a fan theory that it's "all just a dream" after a catastrophic event
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>"Kingdom Hearts is Darkness"
>"No Kingdom Hearts is Light!"
>Open Kingdom Hearts
>Literally a growing vat for the Heartless, aka darkness monsters
Uhmmm...
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>>571038456
kingdom hearts is the shirt mickey lost
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>FF8 has a card minigame
>CoM's gameplay is all about cards

>Succession of Witches
>Namine has been referred to in-universe as a "witch"

>Succession of Witches + LOVE
>Love is often represented by HEARTS in symbolism

>FF8's characters all have a shared childhood past except Rinoa, who is an outsider who becomes an emotional catalyst for squall
>Kairi moving to Destiny Islands from Radiant GARDEN and becomes the emotional catalyst for both Sora and Riku

>SeeD exams
>MARK OF MASTERY

>MOONS EVERYWHERE
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Remember Donald zettaflare destroy your fav chara
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Where is Jiminy Cricket's nobody? He was on Sora when he turned into a heartless in Hollowed Bastion.
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>>571040489
>he was on Sora when he turned into a heartless in Hollowed Bastion.
So what? He didnt lose his heart
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>>571040763
He got fucking atomized anon. He lost his entire life.
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>>571042346
you see, he was in the shoes outside of screen
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FITHOS
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>>571021760
Days is not a game that you just watch and care much for. It's intentionally designed a a low-stakes slice of life type of game. Roxas was basically a salaryman stuck in a dreary job and had only his coworkers smiles to look forward to. This is of course is not for everyone but if you like it days will draw you in. Also the cutcsene movie left out lots of important shit.
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>>571042460
Nice fan canon, but I'm not buying it.
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That was undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers!
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>>571038615
water and water and water water (Riku)
water and water and water water (Riku)
water and water and water water (Riku)
water and water and water water (Riku)
water and water and water water (Riku)
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>unicorn theme mansion
>we have a unicorn theme chara
we need the lore now nomura
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VII LIGHTS VERSUS XIII DARKNESSES
VII DARKNESSES PLUS ONE LIGHT
SEVEN PLUS ONE....
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>Balamb Garden vs Radiant Garden
>Laguna dream sequences vs Roxas prologue
>The first FF character Sora meets is Squall. The first Roxas meets is Seifer
>Ellone can send Squall’s consciousness back into Laguna’s past, experienced as dreamlike episodes-- waaaaait a second
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>If you come here, you'll find me. I promise.
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>This girl from Another Side Another Story (presumed to be Kairi in between KH1 and KH2) has long black hair
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>>571053078
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And aw, god dammit I just realized another thing too
>there's a shooting star
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>>571053279
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>>571008487
>pink wings fly out from the letter like hearts flying from a freed heartless
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>>571035469
This but Wisdom form. StaffGODS run this franchise.
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https://kingdomhearts.fandom.com/wiki/Another_side,_Another_story...
>The countdown from XIII stops at II (2) instead of 1. This mimics the style of old movie intro sequences. Also, *2, 7, 8, 10 and 13* are represented as II, VII, VIII, X, XIII, respectively, their Roman Numerals, while the others are shown by their numeric values.
>7, 8, and 10 (alongside II and XIII which are obvious for the KH1 context) all getting roman numerals while the rest don't
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>>571052427
>The first FF character Sora meets is Squall
The first FF characters Sora met were Selphie, Tidus and Wakka. He grew up with them. And considering Wakka is 15 to Selphie and Tidus 13, he probably met Wakka first.

>The first Roxas meets is Seifer
The first FF character Roxas meets is Biggs, followed by Jesse and optionally Wedge. And chronologically, it was the Organization Moogle.
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>>571058613
Okay, fair
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>child of destiny
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>>571059654
LITHOS
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>Cards are the primary gameplay mechanic in Dark Road
>Young Eraqus and Young Xehanort are students in Dark Road
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>>570974070
>>570974439
>>570974616
I was having trouble loading the links in the OP. I should have mentioned when I made the post. Thanks though, I'll try these.
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Uh... guys...?
>Odin is the name of YX's teacher in Dark Road
>https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Odin_(Final_Fantasy_VIII)
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Alright can we drop the FFVIII schizophrenia already, it stopped being funny hours ago.
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>>571063651
There ain't no gettin' offa this sczhophrenia we on, Anon.
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>>571063651
Im also getting sick of this FF8 spammer. I'm just gonna start hiding and filtering his posts
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>>571065439
How am I a spammer?
Sorry for being myself bro
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Tbh the real answer to all of this anyways is that Nomura is just a hack fraud who just reuses/recycles things he thinks are cool
And that's a good thing!
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>>571066008
>Duel of the Fates starts playing
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>>571065759 (me)
>>571065439
After some thinking, I've realized I could do something really funny right now just to spite you.
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You want spam? I shall give thee TRUE SPAM.
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Behold. TRUE SPAM
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>>571065925
Trvke
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Actually desu I'm getting bored of this FF8 shtick too, as the retard responsible for it
I've basically dried up all the actual similarities and started grasping at straws.
My real favorite FF is V anyways
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>>571066557
>>571066710
>>571066942
Haha anon that was funny. Let me suck you off
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My favorite final fantasy?
Jacks' game.
Only FF game I finished and also chocobo tales on the ds which was also based.
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>KH4 will come out next year
We won
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>>571072442
i got instantly walled out when i started the dlcs and the game wanted to remind me it was a koei tecmo game
i'm not gonna grind for rat tails, i play videogames to have fun. Sorry Jack
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>>571045572
i remember doing this as a kid and thought it was just a glitch
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>>571080409
why'd missing link have to die and take the moogles in funny outfits with it
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>>571075836
Every KH game has at least one weird spot that you can grab and hang off
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>>571082060
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>>571082259
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>>571082389
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FFchads won...
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>>571082259
sigurd
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>>571082625
no anon, we did
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>>571082870
Anon, I don't mean franchise wars.
I mean in how practically every minor detail in KH is basically nomura-FF-coded
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>>571082653
correct, no idea why people are assuming the guy in the op is sigurd, he doesn't even have a hood
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>>571083024
i just wanted to post that pic to dispel the "it's FFVII turn now" meme
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>>571083138
>no idea why people are assuming the guy in the op is sigurd, he doesn't even have a hood
Because we know he is in the game. And the rest of the outfit looks very similiar
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>>571083145
The what?
I just have nomura derangement syndrome (not a bad thing)
Every KH thing I look at, when I look closer, is just something from FF7, FF8 or FF10 turned up to 11, no cap
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sora's greatest ally
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>>570808443
How would a hd-2d kh game even play like.
The only 2d kh game is CoM
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>>571083463
but he doesn't have the hood or the hat, why would someone with both a hood and a hat no longer wear either

him being the moogle with the hat removed after you find out makes much more sense

it's not like he was shown in the missing link cgi intro with his hood and hat on with an identical face and hair or anything
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>>571084162
like the elliot game, that one is clearly based on zelda but i mean it's still a proper real time action game
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>>571083764
>>571084196
imagine the sex
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>The Nomuraverse
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>>571084393
The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>571084683
kairi kairi open your eyes
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>>571084393
Dude wtf
First off: that's gay
Second off: Squall's just an older brother figure to Sora
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I have a confession to make
I've never actually played FF8, I've just been shitposting
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>>571084830
Cute sisters.
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>>571085018
Cute siblings. What role will Lauriam play in KH4, if he's even in it?
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>>571085403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKxG6jB9ORw
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>When you're a protagonist created by Tetsuya Nomura, have had a love interest who came from outside your close-knit social circle, have brown spiky hair, and an antagonist who tried to fuck with the space-time continuum using moons
(Btw, it seems schizos on /ffg/ who like the worst Final Fantasies (XIII, X-2, etc) and think they're based for it and that everyone else is the cringe schizo are trying to pick a fight with me even though I literally just started shitposting in both generals last night, lol)
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>>571016435
I hope so. I hate his shitty not-Noctis haircut.
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>>571042346
She was so close to grabbing "it"...
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>>571075260
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Once KH4 is released, do you plan on buying it on launch or waiting until it's on sale?
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>>571093348
Launch buy
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>>571093348
Preorder whatever special edition they make.
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>>571093348
I bought the KH III Deluxe Edition, I won't lose my streak.

Wish MoM had one.
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>>571093348
Preorder like I did with KH3.
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>>571093348
KH games are pretty much the only games I preorder
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>>571083764
The moogles are our greatest ally.
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>>571043297
>Days is not a game that you just watch and care much for.
It gets even worse when you play it
>the cutcsene movie left out lots of important shit
No it didn't
>inb4 "Roxas, that's a stick"
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>>571021760
>I'm not playing Days but I want the full story
It can't work both ways.
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>>571053078
>>571053279
That image is crunched to hell
It's a dark red which is why people assumed it was Kairi
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>>571093348
I have been preordering the special editions of every KH game in both English and Japanese since 2.5
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Every squad got the spiky haired protagonist, the edgelord, and the girl
>Sora, Riku, Kairi
>Roxas, Axel, Xion
>Cloud, Barrett, Tifa
>Squall, Irvine, Rinoa
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No meddling with other generals! We need to preserve the board order.
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>>571084329
It's the purple on the shoulders and that's about it
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>>571108223
meet the robinsons is an... interesting choice
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>>571087506
>schizos on /ffg/ who like the worst Final Fantasies (XIII, X-2, etc)
As expected, there are 16 fans there.
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what the fuck is the master of master's problem?
why is he like that?
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>>571115530
We need glup shitto worlds just because theyd be so much more interesting potentially. Old Disney is so overexposed. People are tired of modern Disneys endless sequels remakes and low quality movies and ruining big franchises. Give me ul James and the Giant Peach, Black Hole, etc.
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>>571034649
>>571034231

I paused the video went to sleep finished it and he mentions seven vessels... fucking nomura cant get away with this
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>>571116209
You know after posting this I remembered how much money the Lion King "live action" remakes made so maybe Im in the vast minority.... I hope that Meet the Robinsons one is true though. (Fuck the mcu though)
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>>571085235
Its OK Nomura is just shitposting too. I ReMind Squall makes a joke about the same shit we are. If you talk to him a 2nd time he says

>Clues in a dream? Where have I heard that one before.

Alluding to the plot of FF8 where they just pass out and dream they're an idiot. Which is actually their minds going back in time into his dad and friends.
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>>571117243
She would support Argentina.
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>>571117328
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Now that we have FF8 its time to tell you about Xenogears.

>The one Wing imagery starterd n Xenogears
>Skipped FF7 despite how ironic that is considering Sephiroth's song
>FF7 and Xenogears reference eachother with a Tifa poster and Cloud saying Xenogears
>One Wing ended up on KH's Sephiroth and Cloud, and in a way Riku (his sword is one wing just look at the cover art)
>Went back to FF7 in the compilation and remake stuff
>Shows up again for Kairi and Sora in ReMind
>Shows up in Baten Kaitos because it was made by the same guy
>All pretty much have the same or similar symbolism.

>Also that guy got Nomura for the bad guys in Xenoblade 2 because he wanted him for Xenogears back in the 90s
>His wife has a crush on Ares from Tron Ares and Jared Leto which has nothing to do with anything I just think its funny
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>>570923260
Am I retarded? I thought Balder's flashback confirmed that he killed all the upper class men and Maleficent killed no one.
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>>571117706
And therefor... I don't think the fact we have two characters named Sigurd wearing purple and white is a coincidence. I will reserve my schizo Sigurd theories until I learn more about KH4.
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>>571118004
Its been a while for me but I could have sworn Maleficent beat them in dragon form before that.
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Don't forget to report and ignore shitposters like this one
>>571117706
>>571118032
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All I'm hoping is for Sora to get some grit in 4. He's a bit too wishy washy in 3, but that's a given the absolute emotional bomb he received from Roxas' memories in 3D. He was definitely lost in the sauce, and that was most evident in San Fransokyo where's yapping even dumber shit and had Roxas' memories phasing in at that bridge
He should definitely sort himself out
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>>571013592
Yeah, the 'closure' with DiZ and Namine is atrocious. DiZ basically pulls a gun out of nowhere that can somehow turn the artificial Kingdom Hearts into data, it explodes, and that somehow heals Riku. KH2's one of the msot fun games ever but the story/characterization will make you go cross eyed if you think about it too long. Then Ansem wanders around the Realm of Darkness, admittedly has a cool moment with Aqua, but then she fails to protect him, and their meeting ends up feeling completely unimportant.

Data Ansem in DDD felt weird too, even if he did have a cool moment with Riku. Thanks for the information, I guess? I thought that information was going to be a major part of KH3, but I don’t even remember it being relevant or mentioned again. Been a while since I played DDD but I guess ultimately it was just to give the characters info that we players already knew? I dunno.

Ansem being the Ahab to Xehanort(s) While Whale should have easily been an interesting story. But it’s all just bizarre, dull, and ultimately pointless. The most interesting part of Ansem is someone else taking his identity.
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>>571118116
Ive been here long enough to know what you are.
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>>571118116
Quick better speed up your image spam bot people are having fun.
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>>571118341
>I thought that information was going to be a major part of KH3, but I don’t even remember it being relevant or mentioned again. Been a while since I played DDD but I guess ultimately it was just to give the characters info that we players already knew? I dunno.
His information is just confirming that Roxas, Xion, and Ven are inside Sora's heart IIRC. I know there's some additional plot point in 3 that gets covered by his data as well but I can't recall it off-hand.
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>>571118341
>Data Ansem in DDD felt weird too, even if he did have a cool moment with Riku. Thanks for the information, I guess?

I agree with everything you posted but this was one of my favourite cutscenes in the game for me. Its foreshadowing for 3 and beyond. That information was on how to make replicas for all the extra people who didnt have bodies if Im remembering right. The shit he says about Roxas was like a conclusion to his nobody hatred arc.

I would even say its foreshadowing for 4. Sora has the ability to make anything real. Yen Sid mentions it to Sora when he gives him summons that happens to be Dream Eaters who have the hearts from Dandelions. And well he is the land of unreality... But this is just my theory for now.
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My favorite keyblade and it'll never show up again because its some bootleg fake ass trash. Rip to me. Soul Eater and Way to Dawn just aren't as sleek and cool as the Keyblade of Heart.
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>>571118814
I wonder what it would have looked like if it was completed?
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>>571118814
Its teeth showed up again in ReMind during Xehanort's Xblade transformations to reference keyblades of people's hearts.
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>>571118881
It probabaly would have made a full heart and not an incomplete one. I think Nomura said incomplete made it look that way anyways.

But youd think itd be more crazy. Maybe new keyblades in new games make it seem plain in retrospect though
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>>571119094
Yeah you're probably right, originally I thought it would resemble the χ-blade in some form, but one of Xehanort's reports in BBS makes it clear that it's a distinct type of keyblade.
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>>571119239
I think it's supposed to resemble pure blood heartless cause they had those heart holes.
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>>571118814
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>>571118004
>>571118098
She didn't kill any of them. She did greatly weaken all of them though. Holder tried to take on Maleficent alone, but Baldr's Darkness is what finished her off. Same for the other 3. They're shown about fight Maleficent and what we see later, it's implied they beat her back. They're all shown tried but alive and Maleficent is nowhere to be seen. That's when Baldr's Darkness hit them from behind.
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>>571118814
Yeah it's a sweet keyblade the whole being fake always annoyed me too
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Sora still has the xblade. I wanna use it in four
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So at the end what was the deal with this keyblade? Is it from Moana, Elementals.or an OC keyblade like the Shooting Star keyblade from 3?
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>>571147526
I don't think we know for sure yet. I've never seen either of those movies so I can't really judge it. I've heard someone say it was Moana because of the key chain, and that would check out from a game design perspective as well since Elemental is a romantic comedy.
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>>571147526
im leaning OC because it doesn’t seem to have any visual motifs from moana or elementals as far as i can tell, other than fire and water.
plus moana key blade will probably resemble mauis hook
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>>571147526
i think the design is a bit too wild to be from those movies, especially given the handle looks like some kind of magic wand with that globe and shit (which i don't think has anything to do with any of those movies) and the fire and water look like some representation of the wand's magic
idk i think it would make sense for it to be an oc keyblade, one with which you instantly understand the scrap and build stuff and how it affects gameplay (aka, you now get fire and water attacks, the simplest thing you could go for, unlike the chain motif you apparently get with the KK)
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>>571117130
Based
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>>571155016
>Quadratum is an afterlife for those in the KH universe
>Zack is implied to be dead just like in FF7
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So why the fuck roxas have a whole ass chain in his room
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>>571159949
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>>571160707
because chains are cool
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>>571147526
people who know more about the movies than me were saying it's probably from elemental since the fire and water parts obviously match up while the glass parts (the orb thing and the keychain) also are related the movie plot since the fire elemental MC becomes a glass maker

i wouldn't be surprised if it's not related though
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>>571147526
>>571147992
>>571148102
It's not fire and water themed. It's LAVA and water themed. It has a move called Lava Slash and a big attack called Volcannon. And the flowers that appear from the attacks look like Hibiscus to me. That seems to point to Moana.
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>>571164140
>Volcannon
Close enough, Pokémon world confirmed.
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>>571093348
Launch collector's edition (or just the contents if Square does that like other recent games) and if it's one SKU with English and Japanese like the new KH3 release should be I'll grab the Japanese digital version from the eShop to play it a few hours early (unless it launches at one time worldwide) and probably get it cheaper.
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>>571164140
>And the flowers that appear from the attacks look like Hibiscus to me
trailer has been out for two weeks and somehow everyone refuses to acknowledge there's two kind of flowers coming off the attacks
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I realized that the people who say positioning don't matter in KH3 almost exclusively mean "you don't have approach the enemy in a certain direction to hit them anymore" and think that that's a bad thing. Positioning in KH3 is really important, but it's not about where you attack a single enemy except for giant ones. It's about where you approach mobs, because running straight into a crowd without a care for other enemies is gonna kill you on critical. Obviously it doesn't matter on any other difficulty. I hope enemies are more intelligent in KH4, working together to chain attacks more and more aggressive.
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>>571147526
Atlantis
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Moana world would rock
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Most anticipated feature in KH4?
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>>571179165
The slice of life persona-esque daily events of course
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>>571179165
Tin Pin Slammer
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>>571179165
Build
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>>571179165
The improved BEAT OF LEAD minigame and In game Duellum minigame
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>>571179165
MoM as antagonist
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>>571147526
I would say it's obviously from Moana BUT on the other hand maybe they don't want to spoil the worlds yet so it might be OC
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WHAT'S IN THE BOX?
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>>571181634
A stone from the moon /s
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I really hope the voice director for KH3 was executed in public. In japanese after Sora defeats Aqua you can hear her wheezing in pain and exhaustion and after she's bakc in the realm of light she's half crying half laughing. In english she's doing some weird asmr breathing and slow laugh.
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Knowing everything we do now Riku crystallizing his own darkness and wielding it, while also being immune to it, is a very curious phenomenon.
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>>571184973
https://youtu.be/3vo-VxBRXwQ?si=Dprc-izujt5OkIQR&t=1209

https://youtu.be/IWYkDrPRg1I?si=nBvyMpGx2Tq1mw3U&t=909

Listen to this ridiculous difference
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>>571184973
It's basically a meme that Aqua's English VA is the worst ever
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>>571181634
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https://xcancel.com/Genki_JPN/status/2067987873857511682#m

Little message from the boss man.
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Nomura vader
Nomura vader
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>>571190851
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>>571191872
>Something new
WE WON
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>>571191872
>we're trying something new
sex with kairi confirmed
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>>571198295
More like Kairi getting NTR'd
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>>571198295
If you are reading this, you've been in a coma for 20 years. We are trying something new. We don't know where this message will end up
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Chirithies?
More like ChiriSHIT
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>>571170654
I agree with you
KH3 on Crit is transformative, and you genuinely have to keep a lookout for where you are in relation to where attacks are coming from. Especially early on, it's really hard.
The issue is like you say it's only Crit that does this, and even on Crit if you use the attractions, it undermines a lot of the gameplay because you have a press triangle to win button.
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>>571199747
this is why critical converter was invented
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>>571199747
>because you have a press triangle to win button.
i played critical with it and it really didn't make any difference, unless you idk time it well enough to avoid dying when you're on low health (but it's not like attractions heal you either, so you come out of it and you die on the very next hit anyway)
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>>571193723
sex sex sex
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>>571193723
>ponytail
That really old /v/ autist from like 10-15 years will be really angry at this.
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>>571193723
Why does she have a pregnant belly in these?
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>>571203528
that's because of me
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I'm surprised we've never gotten a Emperor's New Groove world. Relatively successful and well liked, seems perfect from a non-numbered title
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>>571203581
Vanitas...
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>>571164446
So we're finally getting Southern Kalos but in a KH game?
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i was about to say "would be funny if the live action movies in KH4 are just the summons, so it gets the KH1 summons but they're all their live action counterparts" until i looked it up and apparently the mulan live action didn't even have Mushu in it
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>>571203581
>me
Me, he says
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>>571179165
Super bosses
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Rocket League/KH collab is more or less confirmed for August
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>>571185519
Its straight up from Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken
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>>571164140
KH3 had elemental Dark Side, missing link would have had/had in the beta elemental heartless. I think its just that we can stick elements on keyblades now.
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>>571218180
Also heartless will have have prooer elements and weaknesses too like ml
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>>571181634
Hope
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You guys think Tifa diddled Sora?
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Was watching a clip of KH and holy fuck Susanne Blakeslee is great as Maleficent when she goes all dramatic. That evil ass cackle in disney castle was amazing.
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>>571223306
I cant wait to see her get more focus in KH4. One of the best voice actors in KH and I we desperately need good voice acting.
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>>571191872
>KH is Nomura's life's work
>He still has more to do
>It's a land of dreams and magic
Ngl I was starting to get a bit pessimistic but I guess Nomura is still passionate about the series
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>>571226412
>KH is Nomura's life's work
It didn't have to be this way, but he got robbed.
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>>571191872
>xcancel
you are a subhuman
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I'm so fucking sick of dying. Big L
Thank you for never ever ever failing to completely destroy/kill my fun, Luxord. Beat the fuck out of whoever wanted you as a boss option in data org, lmao get your ass beat
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nothingness within nothingness
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darkness within FUCKING darkness
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>>571245089
>darkness within FUCKING darkness
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What disney characters would make good superbosses? The only one I can think of is the big lobster from Atlantis, or maybe the crystal monster the bad guy turns into.
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>>571250265
Young Vader
The Horned King
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>>571250265
*one winged angel starts playing*
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>>571250265
Maxillion from Black Hole specifically in whatever the fuck is going on in this scene.
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>>571250265
If we're counting Disney acquired we need the Xenomorph and Predator one day
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>>571251006
>The Horned King

At least he will always be in FF7
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>>571250265
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>>571251006
Honestly Young Vader is the only thing that really fits the bill for me. You'd be hard pressed to name a more extravagent swordfight than Obi Wan vs Anakin on Mustafar, while Battle of the Heroes or Duel of the Fates plays. Though Darth Maul might work too.
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>>571253059
Im not a prequel guy but my chuuni weeb side would love to see Grevious to see what Nomura would do. I might be saying this because I miss Kurt Ziza too.
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This is a line from a game for children 3-6 btw
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>>571253005
But Xanatos always wins!
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>>571257757
I would literally kill to see Xanatos with Riker reprising his role vs MoM

Just give us a fucking Enix York and put his castle on top of the Twig Towers or some shit do it Nomura do it now
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>>571188110
Yet I still see people defend it
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>>571267930
cause she's a semen demon
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Im the same guy who got tricked into a riku is gay video and I think Im done with KH youtube for awhile.
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>>571273164
the only kh youtube i do is the secret reports (which hasn't posted a proper video in years, used to also listen to their podcast but eventually stopped cause they just go over shit we kh nerds already know) and the salamander man when there's news cause he's the only one that doesn't look like he should be shoved in a locker

needless to say i do very little kh youtube
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>>571273164
All KH Youtube is dogshit
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>>571274159
I remember Regular Pat doing collabs with other KH tubers and they'd always have a terrible presentation voice and male videos about Xion being trans.
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KH4 is unironically coming out next year for the 25th anniversary
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>>571273164
Yeah I only like The Secret Reports and Shedding Starlight. I did try to like Regular Pat but the dude has shit taste and is a mewling faggot.
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Sora literally kills the fucking grim reaper just to save his friends. The heartless wasn't even meant to harm anyone, it was just doing its job.

No wonder nature kicked him out of the reality, the kid's just too dangerous.
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No more triangle icon, it’s a diamond now
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>>571295671
People don't realize how kino kH3 is. They don't appreciate anything.
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>>571296012
day1 mod to make it a triangle again
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>>571296012
It's a reference to all the men we lost along the way to KH4. We'll carry them into battle with us as diamonds.
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we're getting news at D23
but it's gonna be the fortnite/rocket league collab
and maybe a new trailer for KH4 cause why not
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>>571274372
Except for
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>>571300018
A shinning light, to our brothers-in-arms... Even in death...
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>>571304294
I deserve a Kairi gf.
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I'm gonna fucking kill myself dude it's 16 years later and MF is still pissing me the hell off
How the FUCK has this retard fight not been fixed
BbS has been rereleased FOUR times (soon five) since adding MF and the have only changed ONE move so it isn't a guaranteed kill

There's no way they think this fight is just fine the way it is
Holy SHIT
I'm getting too fucking old to be mashing square for 10 minutes waiting for a goddamn opening
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Seriously, who tf was this guy?
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>>571306293
They did fixed it you ungraceful fuck
On Critical mode, his whip attack (the one that grabs you into the air and then hits you down to the ground) was a 1HKO in the vanilla version. In the Final Mix versions now you can dodge away when he grabs you.
And that's pretty much it. Enjoy your fixed and balanced fight
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>>571307492
Riku's Nightmare counterpart
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>>571307492
The manifestation of Sora's darkness embodied as a Nightmare. All his anger, frustration, and hatred taking the form of what that means to him: Organization XIII.
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I'm about to play KH1 for the first time, only played KH2 when I was a kid. Should I pick the sword, shield or magic?
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>>571309168
What platform?
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>>571309876
I just bought the HD remix collection on pc
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>>571309168
i think sword is the best for the first time
the other choice is about how fast you level up, in short
>picking mostly (or all) first choices means you level up faster until lv 50, and slower after that
>picking mostly (or all) middle choices means you level up somewhat the same throughout the game
>picking mostly (or all) last choices means you'll level up slower unti lv50, faster after that
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>>571252692
Would be fun. I imagine that each world has their own variants with how the Xenomorphs got DNA of inhabitants and the Predators learned how best to hunt on the biome
Agrabah and Arendelle would have vastly different fights with the same species
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>>571309168
Sword if you want combat to be any fun
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>Nomura is now older than Miura was when he died
Strange world we live in
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>>571316659
He's gonna die before KH5 releases.I don't know anyone else who's making games at that age except Kojima
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>>571319642
Miyamoto is 73
Nomura isn't even retirement age yet
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>>571319803
Miyamoto hasn't made a game since Mario 64 which came out 30 years ago
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>>571319912
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigeru_Miyamoto#Works
SM64 was the last game he directed, but that doesn't mean he isn't making games still

That's like saying Shinji Hashimoto had nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts because he was only a producer
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>>571320363
I know that Miyamoto continued working in Nintendo after Mario 64 but that was the last game he made.
>That's like saying Shinji Hashimoto had nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts because he was only a producer
He didn't make Kingdom Hearts, Nomura did.
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>>571320852
The director is not the only person who works on a game, even if they are an auteur and wear many hats during production.
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>>571321141
>The director is not the only person who works on a game
True, there are also people who work under his directions, which means the director is the person who makes all the decisions, therefore he is the only person who matters.
When Hitler attacked Poland, Hitler didn't actually attack anyone, his subordinates did, but still everyone says "Hitler attacked Poland".
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>>571250265
The Firebird from Fantasia 2000
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>>571321463
>which means the director is the person who makes all the decisions
This is simply not true

Producer is a vague title that can mean many things, but it's often on the same level as the director if not directly above the director.

Also if we're talking about KH specifically, you know damn well that Nomura doesn't have authority to make every decision.
He is also on record crediting his team for several design decisions and even story elements across the series.
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>>571321463
>Randomly invoking godwin's law
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>Nomura mentions in the Famitsu 40th Anniversary magazine interview that what he wants to challenge himself with in the future is different than what people expect from him. In the meantime, he wants to first accomplish what those are hoping to see from him.

>He says he has a dream that one day he will be able to put down the baggage he carries and join other creators who moved on to do other things, and that new challenge will surely be something exciting.

Sounds like KH is wrapping up soon
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>>571321959
>but it's often on the same level as the director
Nope, not how it works
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>>571322247
He's clearly talking about versus xiii
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>>571322247
Who is the other creator he's talking about? Tabata?
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Is this the best data battle remix?
For all the other songs I think the new versions are as good as the original at best, but I think this one is the only one that is straight up superior to the original.
It might also be my favorite data battle for making this part of the fight.
https://youtu.be/RF3IBiAxN0QDaU9q0hgCJOEytiX
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>>571321712
KH1 Kairi is so fucking hot good lord...
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>>571322508
A bit too late for that now
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>>571322584
yeah i bet Nomura's dream is to disappear into oblivion making disabled olympics games
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>>571322714
I don't know for me the original BBS theme is the best. Xion's the best for me
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>>571274159
>>571290776
you summoned her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFd4-c1UPic
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New Secret Reports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFd4-c1UPic
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>>571322247
I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to leave square to do his own thing after wrapping up kingdom hearts
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>>571323158
>>571323404
Sell me on why she is a decent khtuber if those even exists.
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Which game has the best super bosses in your opinion?
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>>571323697
Does her research
Is not retarded
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>>571323697
she has nice graphics skills (she had a whole site fashioned like KH2's hollow bastion computer, the one with space paranoids in it, with shit and theories and whatnot but i can't find it anymore) and is ultimately just calmly reading a script instead of acting like a monkey
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>>571323523
What are you talking about? He said 2 years ago that he is going to retire soon because he is too old. He is not starting anything, we are lucky if he manages to finish KH before he dies
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>too old
>56
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>>571322791
Why do you think he said was talking about baggage
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>>571324161
He just said he wants to do new things before finishing up old things
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godamn did terra's va record his remind lines in a tin can? why tf does it sound like that?
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>>571322508
I think he's misunderstanding something. People want Versus XIII from him because they want an FF game with KH2 style combat but without the Disney shit. But what he's been doing is basically turning KH into FF and trying to scam people to believe it's Versus XIII, and that's not gonna work. I say people but those people are all in their late 30s now and have long outgrown KH.
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>>571322593
Now that she's free from Org 13 responsibilities, what is Elrena doing with her free time?
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I hope in the future franchises other than Kingdom Hearts and like uuuh fuckin Fortnite utilize the sort of collab-based storytelling techinque that somehow brings together many different stories/worlds together in the same place. Except multiverse shit, fuck that.
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>>571322247
>Sounds like KH is wrapping up soon
"soon" as in KH6 probably
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>>571324997
Meant for>>571324560
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>>571324997
I don't think he misunderstands at all. He already said what's he's doing isn't versus. And that's obvious because Versus and KH are fundamentally different, despite all the references we've seen. Versus will never be made. But he wants to reuse ideas he had and even work through the feelings he had regarding versus with KH.
>But what he's been doing is basically turning KH into FF
KH is an FF spinoff, introducing more elements from it won't make a difference. Not to mention we already see that despite the talk of KH4 being a soft reboot it's already based on the games leading up to it.
>I say people but those people are all in their late 30s now and have long outgrown KH.
lmao sure bro. Age has nothing to do with liking KH.
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>>571324823
Voice direction in general was ass in kh3.
I have no clue what happened there.
Battle lines are atleast still decent.
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>>571322247
I mean, he already said we're moving towards a conclusion. The Versus XIII bitching is pretty grating.
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>>571326023
>because Versus and KH are fundamentally different
That's exactly why merging them is a bad idea. FF doesn't really see KH as part of the franchise or even a spinoff, at least that's how the fandom treats it. As long as Disney still owns the franchise, KH will never be Versus XIII. If Nomura actually wants to make a game that pleases both sides he needs to make it a proper FF, not KH. And that's why I say it's too late now. After the XV disaster, there's no way SE is ever letting him remake it.

If you don't believe what I said, then try going to /ffg/ and talk about KH there, and see if they're happy to talk about it.
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>>571322714
Vanitas and Xion's data battle themes are pretty great.
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How come they didn't just let nomura do an original game? he seems trusted at Square Enix
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>>571325110
project x zone 3 is just on the horizon, trust me...
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>>571329343
They did let him untill they didn't.
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>>571327492
Ffg is cancer they don't talk about FF there it's just one schizo arguing with himself
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>>571330102
It doesn't matter where you go, reddit, resetera, twitter, someone's always gonna get pissed if you bring up KH topic in an FF community. That's just how it is.
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>>571327492
Nomura isn't trying to please versus fans, he's working out his years of frustrations and unused ideas by channeling them into a creative medium. KH isn't turning into FF or Versus. it's exploring a new story BASED on UNUSED ideas for versus and metawritng about how versus development got fucked. Like how Stranger of Paradise was the story of an angry man rebelling against his people's neglectful and abusive practices(the square execs). Like how Tetsuya Takahashi keeps revisiting Xenogears ideas
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Lots of traditional JRPG fans kinda hate on KH for whatever reason. They don't accept KH.
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>>571331330
Every piece of evidence so far contradicts everything you said. He's clearly using Versus XIII nostalgia to sell whatever he's working on. There's a difference between revisiting an idea and recycling an idea. Takahashi never put that many Xenogear references in his recent games that scream 'Here's Xenogear in my original vision so go buy it.'
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>>571331330
>Like how Stranger of Paradise was the story of an angry man rebelling against his people's neglectful and abusive practices(the square execs).
Or how shinjuku gets nuked in neo twewy, because the people(square execs) there are irredeemable and need to be wiped off the face of the planet
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>>571331409
>traditional JRPG
they hate anything that is not turn based, ignore them
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>>571332690
I like Marluxia being a good brother, but I also don't like how him, Larxene and ventus were in the age of fairy tales.
Not a fan of being this connected to the main plot.
Ideally it would have been just the foretellers and MoM
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>>571334435
ven need a backstory before bbs, him being important in the past was likely
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>>571335763
Did he?
I mean he had more backstory than Aqua and terra.
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>>571337819
his backstory was just he trained with xehanort failed then lose memories lol
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Why didn't Versus XIII happen? I don't get why it was canceled and turned into FFXV
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>>571339268
It was taking too long (because Square took the team off of it constantly to save Crystal Tools and XIII and XIV)
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>>571338304
I mean is that anymore backstory then Terra and Aqua's
>they were just training with Eraqus lol



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