Tunnel edition Prev. Mission >>570241153Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GPimkTfnho>ACI is playable again!https://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>AC7/8 on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/502500 (AC7)https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288340 (AC8)>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Ace Combat 3: A New Translationhttps://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net/>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA Twitter (JP)https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES>AC7Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes>No EML/QAAM/SASM>In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/e9PNHDcD>Project Wingmanhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PWhttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hnMisc Stuff>/aceg/ Collagehttps://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV>Razgriz Patch Guyhttps://www.strangerealpatches.com/>Ostrich's Modshttps://superostrich.xyz/>/aceg/ Assault Recordshttps://pastebin.com/CjuB314d>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guidehttps://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy) after ACZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk >/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/acegFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>New Ace Combat trailer? YES! COMING OCTOBER 2 2026https://youtu.be/5i_W3HDZVLA >Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
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So I pre-ordered the Joker Flight edition from the bamco site. The game code won't arrive until a few days before official launch, it better have Zero included I swear to god.
So what's the current completion date for Megafloat?
>>5708111192039 If she shows up in a mission it'll be incredibility fun due to being still under construction and have so many places to fly into.
Is AC8 the most dull moment in the series?>Names on pilots helmets ripped straight from Top Gun: Maverick>Quirky pink hair anime girl to distract you from the otherwise lifeless cast>Superbugs being the hero plane to gobble Maverick's cock even harder>Old ship being used in combat again trope like it hasn't been done better in BSG and EoTT>Battlepass slop>Arsenal bird but again>Land battleship ripped from Project WingmanTM>Exact same fucking gameplay for 20 years, there are itch.io AClikes with more innovation in the basic mechanics>Boring modern setting flying the same planes we've been flying since Air Combat>Legit there were bugs in Air Combat, in 1995, over 30 years ago>No cool 6th gen shit, no COFFIN, No indication this series will EVER move beyond vaguely 4thgen jets, you fight fucking FOXBATS>No radically branching choices like AC3>(You) cockgobbling (this was always a thing in AC but it keeps getting worse each new game)>Briefings nowhere near their peak in ACI, zero sauceIt feels like a game with zero risk, zero passion, zero innovation. Just formulaic greyscale noise to put on the Bamco spreadsheet. I would rather have Assault Horizon again rather than this. An extremely flawed game but oh my god at least they tried to do something NEW FOR ONCE. People fawn over stupid shit like your player model moving their head in AC8, meanwhile there’s no innovation in the GAME part of the game. This isn’t bait, I’ve played the whole series except for the GBA and phone games. There is an insane amount of cool shit you could do in arcade flight games. Maybe one of the indie AClikes will figure it out.
>>570811429hey guys did you know that tom cruise invented planes and everything is a rip off of tom gun maverick
>>570802574Wait till you try out the PGM they are JDAM's IRL but ingame they are a guided UGBL >>570805496Talking shit about the MTD is a bad idea around here>>570806841Take Rafale pick SOD use missile cam and watch how long it keep going with that view.
>>570811707nah bro that is bullshit bro Area 88 invented everything there is to invent in the implied and arbitrarily-defined 'fighter jet media sphere' in Japanese and weeb culture and pop culture.
>>570811429Why would you want to radically alter the gameplay? The gameplay in these games is great, no need to change huge parts of it just for the sake of changing shit. Different game series can experiment with new takes on the arcade air combat genre, AC only needs tweaks and refinements.
Soon he'll be free to hand off PA to the next generation while he retires to sire new blasians
>>570814518Kono's wife worked (still works???) at a bakerycoincidence????
>>570811891>Talking shit about the MTD is a bad idea around hereits kinda growing on me but still the F-15C i think it is the very first f-15 u unlock in 4 is the most gorgeous one imo also I have to google all these weapon terms lmao gonna take a while till i know what they all mean wo googling
>>570811429>No cool 6th gen shit, no COFFIN, No indication this series will EVER move beyond vaguely 4thgen jets, you fight fucking FOXBATSThe reason for my concern.AC7 I could forgive. AC8, in 2029? No, sir.I would love AC0 in my collection, but at this rate, I'll only get 8 when it's 50% off like I did with 7.I can't do it, guys. Just can't. It's becoming a clown show. A schizophrenic one.
>>570815310>>570811429Ace Combat doesn't live outside of the industry.The non-enshitification of it, like 99% of the ALL long standing franchises, should be commended, not met with "muh they didn't do anything new"Hardly not a bait
>>570811429>Exact same fucking gameplay for 20 yearsGood.Just say you're tired of Ace Combat and fuck off.
>>570811429you're right that the pink haired girl is cringe and a mistake, and that the campaign will be entirely linear and branching paths would be cooleverything else you said makes you a total retard and a faggotleave
>>570815310>in 2029You are aware 6th gen fighters won't be a thing for at least a whole decade and that most currently in service jets will stay around probably well into the 2040s, yes?
>>570811429Some of these I can understand but>Quirky pink hair anime girl to distract you from the otherwise lifeless cast>Old ship being used in combat again trope like it hasn't been done better in BSG and EoTT>(You) cockgobbling (this was always a thing in AC but it keeps getting worse each new game)I really don't see the big issues with these in particular.
>>570815310Not sure what you're expecting here, it's not like the fighter jet industry moved leaps and bounds since AC fucking 1. F-22 is still the peak of human ingenuity, and that thing went into production in 1996. Sure, they could pad the roster out with various concept models (or just make shit up), but part of the fun is being able to fly real fighter jets.
AC6 Recomp DLC unlock if anyone needs itAdd it to the OP niggers>https://mega.nz/file/x3ZATS7L#bfsKCj2rtT-4ltVZX6itxuPlh699as6DhpLTCqIKNBo
>>570815310>AC8, in 2029Anon, I don't know how to tell you, but it's 2026.
>>570818020he means the game is set in 2029, dummy
>>570817582what does this mean, if you don't use it the game doesn't have the DLCs enabled?
>>570818293That's even dumber, the timeline in AC never really bothered matching the real world with its dates, and no major shifts IRL are gonna happen in the next few years either.
>>570818350Yup, since you need to use the base US\JP ISO for the recomp, you don't have the DLCs in
>>570816357>>570816917What I'm reading here is:Huge flying wings, drone swarms, and land battleship yamato... GOODBut fighters more advanced than what has been seen in AC since Air Combat (the usual, realistic line-up)... BADThat's the disconnect. Right there.ACES is at the right juncture to go beyond what ACX offered many years ago. Instead of taking that second step forward, they are taking one step backward. Again, excusable in the case of 7. With 8, it is not.This wouldn't be so concerning if they hadn't teased and put little references from 3 here and there for the past several years. It's one way or the other. Can't go both ways. And that's what they seem to be doing, judging from what's been shown.An unfortunate turn of events so far. Hoping, as always, for an eventual reversal. A course correction towards what's been hinted at in the past.
>>570818916The point is not how advanced something is or isn't. Real-life logic doesn't apply to AC planes. The point is that people wanna fly real planes, and devs pay up the ass for licenses to have real planes. This is done very much on purpose. No one wants an assortment of Macross bootlegs from AC3, Instead, people want MSFS quality models and autistic detailing doing insane shit no plane in MSFS could do. That was always the appeal of Ace Combat.
>>570818916Flying real planes was always the entire point of ACI don't care about this "disconnect".
>>570819682>people want MSFS quality models You're not wrong but I would like MSFS quality models because, at least going by the system requirements, MSFS 2024 is gonna run better on older hardware compared to AC8.
Is there any way to increase the resolution in AC6 recomp?
>>570815310Its 2026 the only nations with actual 5th gens are the US & China a gen that started in the 90's everyone else is still using 4th gen cold war shit. Nothing is out of place here>>570819682Or oh I don't know do both so we can fly real planes and original ones anytime, Which they will do XFA & Shinden are fully expected, X planes are expected as well
>>570818916We haven't seen the full plane roster yet, have we? Story-wise the FCU being essentially left with outdated shitheaps makes sense, your "home base" Endurance is a relic they quickly dusted off and got seaworthy because they didn't have anything else.We'll just have to wait and see what General Resource decides to send our way near the endgame.
>>570821514Nevermind, there's a resolution scaling setting in the debug menu.Boy, these clouds somehow look worse than they did in the PS2 games. I wonder if it's supposed to look like this.
>>570822073I dread reaching 6 because its gonna be a hassle to fuck w either this decomp which isn't finished or xenia which has been buggy shit for decadesstill have 5/zero to go on the ps2 tho
>>570822038>send our way near the endgame
>>570822456The recomp has improved 6 on Xenia either way its going to be about the same. Just pick your poison.Then again do you have a current or last gen Xbox? If you do you can play 6 on either one assuming you can find the game cheap
>>570822456I tried both, they look exactly the same. Xenia doesn't have any visual settings anyway, at least the recomp tries to smooth over the jaggies.
>>570822960Well, shit, I take that back. The in-engine cutscenes are a stuttering mess (the audio is very delayed), and missiles don't have any trails, so it's hard to see them at all. I wouldn't call this playable. Too bad I already deleted the iso, gonna redownload it and try Xenia again.
>>570822680nope only PC reminds me I would totally preoder 8 if the zero it comes with is like a remasterbut for just a port if its not available on steam as a separate purchase after it releases I'm fully entitled to pirate it, before that I'll probably play zero on emu because I cba to wait
>They think Tasha wasn't a masterstroke of marketing
so what you're saying is the recomp is pointless as the xenia experience is somehow less bad
>>570825552Recomp can be refined further and be more customizable. Xenia hasn't really changed much for years, and it doesn't allow any customization.
>>570825738>Recomp can be refined further and be more customizableand will those happen before AC8 is out
>>570825552i mean, idk about that anons issues, but its literally not finished and filled w bugs, no one said it was finished, eventually it'll 100% be the best way to playfor example ocarina of time and twilight princess recently got recomps, I played TP, it was great, 0 problems, before it was playable for a year or two I think, but filled w bugsjust wait
>>570825823Probably not, but it's not a race.
>>570825920no but maybe someone wants to play all the AC games before they play 8
>>570824993Well then pick your poison on how to play 6.>ZeroIts not going to be on steam as a separate buy just like 5 isn't & 6 isn't up on xbox store. They are using a legal loop hole to put the game out with no license cost.
>>570826185thats what me and this other anon and maybe some others are doin' but when I get to 6 i'll try xenia and hope its playable>>570826269what if they sell it as DLC for 8 or the legal loop hole doesn't work that way? i guess at that point it'l be pointless to have it as preorder bonus though
>>570826185Doesn't matter its not a race all the other games work fine anyway. 6 is the only one that isn't perfect yet, deal with it. The PS2 ones just reached perfect status only a couple of years ago themselves.
>>570826382they literally cannot sell any of the PS2 games separately in any form
>>570826382>or the legal loop hole doesn't work that way?Correct
>>570814518>>570814821>while he retires to sire new blasiansIs there a joke I'm missing here?
I really hate niggers who see planes and automatically think of Danger Zone and Tom Cruise.
I haven't even seen Top Gun, either of them
Whatever references they make to 3 in 8, I hope they're not super blatant. Kinda like Martha and Simon being Dr. Schroeder's assistants that only pops up in off hand dialogue, or Pops and Bartlett showing up on one version of Mayhem. Stuff like that is cute, AC isn't really a series that needs constant callbacks and returning characters imo.
Well, Xenia is not much better. Missiles have trails, so that's good. But the cutscenes have the sound go in and out, seems like Xenia fixes the desync that way. Not a great experience, but for the lack of options, it'll do.
>>570827724Jesus fuck, it instead threw this at me. The recomp doesn't have this glitch. Guess I'll just have to watch the cutscenes on Youtube.
>>570828182Ah yes back in the day during the invasion by the stealth dimension >cutscenes on YoutubeHonestly you ain't missing anything that is where 100% of the JP melodrama is at.
>>570828182are u using xenia canary?
How the fuck is an XBOX still unemulatable when it's a gen behind(?) PS3 which is fully emulatable now? What the fuck are these guys doing?
You can definitely tell they wanted to jump into the next-gen swinging, this scale of battle was not seen in any previous AC game.>>570829096Yes.
>>570811429Alright. Enjoy being one of the 5 guys who hold that view and screaming into the void.>>570815310>No indication this series will EVER move beyond vaguely 4thgen jetsYeah imagine if PA had added the FCAS in there lmao.
>>570829257For the same reason the Saturn isn't 100% sometimes it just hard. Sometimes you don't have many people working on it Sometimes its both. No one is getting paid to do this stuff its done all in free time
>>570829271and it's still not seen in the newer ones too!
>Checks PA English twitter>Join our discord Really?Those poor fools have no idea what they have gotten themselves into do they?Fitting given the nature of 8 but still those poor bastards
...Nah, fuck this. Maybe anons with better hardware will have better luck, but I'll just skip AC5 for now. Not being able to see my missile trails is way more of a problem than I thought - I fire them, and I can't tell if the enemy dodged, or if they're still flying towards the enemy. This makes combat feel like shit, and I can already imagine how much of a hassle the cutscenes will be. I don't wanna ruin my first impression of the game like this. Maybe some other time.>>570829608Really? Well, that's actually pretty common. That gen was a huge leap forward, so everyone wanted to show off right away. GTA 4 had physics and ragdoll tech that GTA 5 couldn't dream of, for example. Halo 3 was also more technologically impressive than the games that followed it, too.
>>570830237Dang it, I meant AC6.Now, the next one is Joint Assault. Back to the PSP I go.
Wait, whatThe fuck is "American", what the hell did I miss
>>570829257>>570829551Apparently despite the PS3's reputation as an abomination of a console to develop for, the 360 really isn't much better. It's also that 6 specifically has some weird programming decisions and workflows because of course it does.>>570829918Honestly sounds like a breeding ground for IRL Commander Mackenzies.>>570830237>>570830410When I played 6 a couple months ago you can definitely play it without the missiles, but you do notice it. SAM's sneak up on you sometimes and it's hell for dealing with tougher enemies. I thought there was a recent patch but I guess that was only for an FPS fix so the game runs at a stable 60.>the next one is Joint Assault.I hope you like your plane feeling like it's smothered in molasses the entire time. JA's such a bizarre game, in some ways I think it's worse than AH but they both have their own problems. JA does have the benefit of having Beff Jezos as the main villain though, that was funny.
>>570827193nah, don't worry
>>570831519Buddy bewareYou're in for a scare
>>570829257AC6 is a 360 game, not an og Xbox game.It all comes down to figuring out how shit works; how the CPU works, how the GPU works, how the CPU and GPU work with eachother, how the drivers work, how the OS works, so on and so forth, and all of this is made more difficult with every missing piece of documentation or proprietary/custom part (in the case of the og Xbox for example, that thing had a custom GPU with fucktarded architecture, proprietary drivers and zero documentation - the PS3 arguably has a simpler GPU, and that one had a headstart on reverse engineering because of Nouveau's efforts and the fact that Snoy actually bothers to make decent fucking documentation for their consoles.)Anyways, a lot of undocumented info must then come from the people interested in picking apart and reverse engineering console architecture (i.e. homebrewers and the like), which then relies on there being a healthy, unified community of people willing to do that kind of research. The PS3 has a lot of people like that, the Xbox 360 not as much - but still enough for projects like Xenia and its peers to exist - and the original Xbox even less so (with its library overlapping a lot with Playstation or PC, making it easier to just go for those instead).>>570831519Joint Assault is its own thing. With Jeff Bezos.It's no ACX, that's for sure.
Gotta say, I didn't expect this game to take place in the real world. I'll just assume AC6 ended with Strangereal finally getting nuked so hard that the entire reality shifted.
>>570831519Belka fucked around too hard and accidentally initiated the dimensional merge.
>>570832239Someone said 'Go dance with the angels!' three times in front of a mirror.
>>570832239Welcome the world of Real Strange its the setting which people in Strangereal play>No joke you can see a world map in 7 and its the real world. Someone is playing a game in the briefing roomWe play games set in their worldThey play games set in our world.
>>570831519Whoever you went with they all do it a bit differently nothing huge but you'll notice small things about each one as you play and not just the accent either.
>>570832524Whoever's doing worldbuilding on their end is doing a real shit job then, our only superweapons are nukes but bigger.
>>570833659nukes are all ya neednobody's attacking you if u have nukes
>The Kawasaki P1 uses optical cables for its flight control systemThat's pretty cool.
>>570833659>our only superweapons are nukes but biggeroh man are you in for a retarded roller coaster ride get ready for Orgoi.
>>570834016
>>570831519welcome to one of the reasons X2 is shit
>>570829918With the sheer number of secondaries thanks to 7 and after looking at the AC subreddit because of it I'm very much expecting the series to lose its identity by 9. Bricky himself is playing ace combat and covering it but the upside is he seems like he's not actually interested in it so far.
>>570829918>>570835598you guys wanted an alive franchise with new games, you got it, dev/publisher discord is just the norm in the industry these days unless ur nintendo or smth
>>570831519Uh oh he found out...
>>570835598Funny to complain about secondaries then bring up some random eceleb
I guess we're back in the doomposting and fearmongering phase again.>>570835598I wouldn't worry about it. Casuals will get filtered by the controls like always, basically all the non-ace combat nuggets Bamco invited for the early access look were playing with the novice layout. Plus if GTA does release a month later in November all normalfag discussion will revolve around that instead.
if ac8 doesnt have a ac130 or chopper gunner mission im gonna FREAK
>>570835598That's what the gatekeeping is for. >>570837570as long as you bully the novice control-users AC will remain healthy.
>>570836626I will complain about celebs, yes. When max0r's videos are quoted more than actual lines in OST comments with more likes on YouTube is not something I want to see.
>>570838306I think the real folly is expecting worthwile discourse in Youtube comments.
this should be good I remember anons praising the final mission a lot
>>570835598Listen I don't like that faggot either, mostly because he's somehow dumber than most 40kfags which is an impressive achievement, but from what little I've seen of his coverage of the press event, he seems like he at least gets Ace Combat on some level. I don't expect people to be as autistic about this series as I am, but what I do expect is a modicum of effort to get the series. The worst I've seen the more casual fans of the series do is spout unfunny memes like >>570838306 says. I don't think we really have anything to worry about, for now at least. Save the whining for if we get the Jojo or Yakuza treatment where half the fans are like, tertiary fans who only know about it through memes and videos about it. I'm literally one of those of Jojo/Yakuza 'fans' myself, I'm trying to finish Yakuza 7 and I want to try reading more of the Jojo manga but ADHD is a motherfucker when it comes to long franchises like those.
>>570835598Fans will do fan things.Secondaries play only the latest thing, or nothing at all and consume their favorite youtuber(s). You will see fanart and fanfics (often fujo ones) you won't agree with.
Funniest missile ever i was wondeirng how im getting "destroyed" like 20 secs after shooting it
>>570839058>arbitrary exception to the ruleThe folly is people thinking this won't expand past whatever you deem as when a fandom actively grows regardless of intelligence.
>>570822073Nah the clouds and missile trails are the last things still messed up in the recomp (unless they’ve been fixed? seems not). AC6 was a very pretty game. Truly excellent graphics for the time. I remember playing the demo at a friend’s house as a kid and we were totally blown away by how photorealistic the intro at the airfield was, and then realizing the whole game looked like that was almost unbelievable. Ahh, when we could still truly be impressed by good graphics…
>>570840645>ac04 qaamyou didnt beat the game
>>570828906>Honestly you ain't missing anything that is where 100% of the JP melodrama is at.Imagine playing Ace Combat and not enjoying the Japanese melodrama. Couldn’t be me. 6 actually has a good story, it just also has the absolute peak cheesiest dialogue of the entire series, which is really saying something.
>>570840686>The folly is people thinking this won't expand past whatever you deem as when a fandom actively grows regardless of intelligence.Please complete your sentence. Also this is part and parcel of any series becoming mainstream. Casuals "fans" being retards is nothing new, don't shit up actual discussion about a source work by bringing up what some random faggots are doing on youtube or reddit or whatever other site that's already infamous for low quality discussion. If anons cared then they would be discussing Ace Combat on those platforms.
absolute KINO ending
>>570842703The way your plane snuggles up to Sky Eye right before this (that little wiggle as it settles in) always makes me smile.The animation could be better but it's cute in how janky it looks.
>>570842461>they don't influence the series at all, I don't care! Even if some rando faggot like Bricky who've never touched AC prior with Kono activity asking him for advice So you're one of those -50 IQ retards, got it. Stick to your 4chan bubble with your head in the sand, faggot.
>>570840686Our fanbase has always been one (of many, of course) defined by arrested development.It's never been a remarkable one.The sole thing it could lord over others (I only see it here because I don't go anywhere else) with the least amount of shame was and still is "normies can't into the expert controls!". Wow!YouTube comments about Ace Combat before 7 were always been characterized by inane stuff like "am i the Only one who thinks it'd be really Epic imagine if Mobious [sic] 1 and Razgriz Squadron teamed Up in the next Ace Combat" and "this is the greatest song of any video game ever" and "____ has the most well-written story of any video game. Anyone else agree?".Don't worry dude - this more recent stuff you're worried about won't lower the room temperature average IQ.I get where you're coming from in the fear of what this franchise might turn into,and the fear that comes from the knowledge that we can't really do anything about it.
>>570840686>>570843584my earliest exposure to ace combat anything was this singular meme when it went viral a few years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGZJnLYvio0actually playing the games now... it ain't THAT deep
>>570843796You're right, its not. Most people don't want another AH where the series nearly dies. Fuck the mainstream and CoD.
just now started ace 5 man hold up, the belkans nuked themselves.... so that nobody could invade em through the nuke wall? douglas mcarthur style? damn
>>570844841Belkans sure are a funny bunch.
special weapons? so they won't be using bombs and other selectable stuff unless u enable this? I guess in case u dont want to em take ur kills/targets?
>>570844841"15 years ago"That opening still gives me chills.You're in for a treat. My favourite AC of all times. Report in when things happens and share your opinion. Also crank the music volume to the max, there's plenty SOVL OSTs in there
>>570846105only thing I'm worried about is that anons mentioned that you really need to conserve ammo in this one, no refuel/rearm like in 4? I always did that once a mission ish in 4
getting used to the UI from game to game is always jarring, this is like the 4 UI but... different the particle effects on explosions etc have never looked better tho
>>570846025Or in case you don't want them to waste it on minor targets.
>>570847472i seeone more thing whats with the boxes around ur guys on the map and around the squad leader? Mean anything?
>>570846224It's only a concern in the big score attack desert mission.
>>570846224There are *some* missions that will get you out of ammo, but don't be concerned about that
>>570847621They're just there to highlight your wingmen on the HUD and radar. The next missions don't have them.
I already kinda miss this pre-mission jingle lol https://youtu.be/vJjcCGGv4HE
>>570848513HENCE, OUR GHQ IS A SITTING DUCK...
>>5708485134's briefing and menu themes were great, they gave such a unique atmosphere.
>>570849957yeah I literally just played the game for the first time ever this week and I'm already kinda nostalgic for it, it was awesome asf, simple and cozy story too, i actually feel bad for 13, not his fault that he was born in shitty war criminal erusea.... dude just wanted to fly
It's a shame the Su-75 will never materialize, it looks so much cooler than the 57
>>570850594its just a soviet f35it doesnt look cool
>>570850594>the x-32 xaxaxaxa edition looks coolwell to each their own
Has the russian federation even managed to make anything good in decent numbers? Su57 comes closest but i dont know whether its actually "good" or whether theyre actually able to make and field them at scale
When it comes to pure looks Russians > Americans > Central euros
>>570843584I will say the one truly cancer thing (which I've seen infect most fandoms) is people becoming 'fans' but not really fans. IE they go on to spout memes and stuff about but have never actually played the game; it doesn't matter if they say something obviously wrong and you can prove otherwise in 2 seconds they just brush it off and shit up the whole fandom.DMC theoretically would be inoculated against normies because it's brutally hard for someone who hasn't played such a character action game like that before, so you have to really commit to become a fan. That doesn't stop Max0r's underage legion from shitting it up with unfunny memes.
>>570851321This, but Russians and Americans are close for me and sometimes Americans win, Euro jets are absolutely revolting and kitsch
>>570850962Except unlike the F-35 it doesn't look overweight and downie but rather sleek and fastProbably wouldn't actually be that fast lest its wooden wings fall off or its engine melts, but still, it has the looks
>>570828182I had this problem too. Go to your Xenia folder, ctrl + f in all the configs for “ac6”, one of them should pop up with “ac6 black texture fix” and set it to true instead of false. It fixed it for me and none of the other anons here know about it because they secretly hate 6.
>>570851363eeeh, DMC is hard if you wanna do SSS++ combos and/or hard difficulty anyone can play and beat any of the games just by mashing
>>570851413>kitschpseud
>>570851572Yeah they can but somewhat similar to AC the DMC base will absolutely shit talk you if you get lower rankings and full-on mock you for unlocking easy mode. Bigger point is in all the fandoms we're getting legions of posers pretending to be fans while having never actually taken part in any of this.
>>570851321russia has made literally one good looking plane in the entire history of its aviation industry, the su-27america made the perfection that is the 4th gen teen series, and the F-22 ain't bad, and their first generation stuff like the sabre and f9f was class, but most of their cold war designs pre-4th gen are ugly as sin too and so is the f-35europe absolute did make some of the ugliest jets ever if we include british aviation, but modern eurocanards are things of beauty
>>570852125You forgot about the best looking cold war jet
>>570852125I like the Fulcrum, Berkut and Felon alongside the Flanker.All the ones that came before are very much an acquired taste visually speaking, though.
>>570852125T-the MiG-29 is cool... So is the Su-34.
>>570852774I honestly kinda dig the Foxbat/hound in all its thrust brick glory.
>>570850249
>>570853429real (to scale)
>>570853074I've always personally flip-flopped between liking and disliking how the Foxbat looks. One moment I think it's cool as shit, the next moment it's a fugly chunk of stainless steel flying at Mach 3.I think that averages out into neutral indifference.
>>570853669It's pretty cool, kind of similar to F-4 in that it's kind of ugly and beutiful at the same time and just look at the size of those engines.
>no mig-21 lovers ittfaggots
>>570855884That thing being an OP memeplane in 7 tainted my view of it a bit. Still grateful to it for the gun only run though, which I had the bright idea to do it alongside the no damage run.
>>570856494Dunno how to explain but its a puritanical jet designits literally just a big fucking rocket tube with wings on the sides, and given thats what it is, the flight performance is remarkable, one of the coolest jets of all time imo
>>570856494>AC8 has a heavy naval aviation focus>no sign of the Last Gunfighter to do the gun only run inModernity is a mistake.
>>57085588421 is ugly as shitI hate that retarded front hole enema design
>>570857176t. tasteletits one of the coolest things, extends out in supersonic then retracts on landing etc
>>570857425you like it because it reminds you of your asshole after all the gay sex you have, homo
>>570857720Takes a tasteful straight man to appreciate phallic machinery
>>570857976I'm sure you have a lot of experience appreciating phalluses.
>>570822073>Boy, these clouds somehow look worse than they did in the PS2 gamesIf you mean low res, yes it was a rendering trick for performance. All the particles in the game, which mostly means the clouds and missile trails, are rendered at half (maybe less?) resolution. I'm honestly not sure that's even fixable without some really heinous reverse engineering type shit because that's going to be very low level rendering code.Resolution aside, the clouds and particles in AC6 are gorgeous and while AC7/8's clouds are much better, no Ace Combat since has ever matched 6's missile smoke trails and the scale of its battles.
Will AC ever implement more dynamic and believable stalls than>whoops you reached maximum altitude or minimum speed, instantly pointing your nose toward the ground now!
>>570858714it's funny cause that's exactly how it worked in 2 lmao
>>570841120Even for a weeb that was just to much JP melodrama it felt more like a bad soap operaNow the in game story and side story with the tank crew yes that was very good AC fare. Those I enjoy but the other part of the cutscene ehhhhh
>>570858714No because their flight model is super fucked up and there isn't really a good way to simulate a stall with how it works beyond just pulling the nose down.
>>570846224>Desert Arrow>Desert LightningThese are the only two mission you have to pay attention to ammo count otherwise go wildAlso don't be an idiot when you get to Lit Fuse as if you are you will run out of ammo.
what would ace combat be like if it had been a nintendo exclusive at birth instead of sony
>>570860135dead
>>570850594Wellll when the 75 as first shown off Kono tweeted with in hours saying this thing is going to be a bitch to model. Unless he changed his mind on it you'll get to use it in 8.
>>570860369okay but what would ace combat on n64 or gamecube be like back in the day
As is tradition 8 will have a NagaseBut here is the question will she be A returning Nagase?If so which? why?A new Nagase?If so what do you think her role will be?
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>>570862040I kinda want a star fox with full on Ace combat controls
>>570862186Same. The breath of fresh air the franchise could use, but a risk nintendo's new york licensee wouldn't dare take regardless of how the new remake shakes out.
>>570862186sorry nintendo is too busy remaking star fox 64 for the 4th time.people complain about not getting remasters/remakes of the holy trinity, but I’ll take missing out on those for project aces actually making new games
I wonder if they'd ever make ace combat WW2, but given how much these devs/series love missiles, I kinda doubt it
Given how the Falken was a special unlock in Zero. How good do you think the chances are for Nighto Rabien to a special unlock in 8?
>>570864256it's called Sky Crawlers, nigga
Hoping for more hot jealous blondes in 5
>>570864256I often wonder what a WWII type game made by PA would be like myself
>>570864526Its under development during 8 but I am not holding my breath for it
Imagine dying in all these stupid ass wars of the franchise not knowing that within your lifetime they'll all become corpo globohomo technocracy anyway and nations will mean nothing
>>570864256They'd make it work. I've been hankering for a good arcade 1940s plane game along the lines of Heroes of the Pacific, Blazing Angels, and Secret Weapons Over Normandy for a while now. Maybe Bamco will let PA do some experimenting if 8 takes off like they hope.
>>570865554If its a special unlock it doesn't matter the Falken didn't even exist in 95 as it was built from data gathered from Morgan. The X-02 would be it exist on paper and prototypes but not in the form you get to use in 95Night Raven's first flight was 2032 so in canon it can't be around yet. Hence the special unlocks like in Zero.
>>570866023Yeah I get it, but they could also somehow bullshit some predecessor of it being tested in an active warzone by some shady means, its what happened with ZOE and the FALKEN.
>>570866347I could see this happen as well a block 0 Raven>Your PR glowie approaches you>Hey Rex my sponsors have a little off the books job for you with super nice bonuses for you and your ship.>Special plane no strangetube footage just a job so how about it you in?
>>570865702no different than current wars IRLww2 was the last war that meant something and it was almost a century ago, nowadays it's either a civil war in some backwater shithole nobody will even hear about or war for israel number 2378
>>570861269<<Rex, incoming radio transmission!>><<This is Commander Nagase of the ISAF. We are currently being attacked by Satoan forces at White Valley airbase. If any FCU or Osean forces hear this, please send us reinforcement!>>
Neucom in the future.
isn't something like this the most efficient flying vehicle design w that kinda tech
>>570873810Lets keep the slop out of the thread hmm?Besides the Neucom fighter was a canceled RTS bamco was making for that setting3rd this is how you do Belkan tech from the futurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy5OOmHomB4
>>570874815nigga I just googled pill shaped aircraft what do u want from metic tac or one of those buzzy magnets would do the trick tooif you have tech that can propel it from the inside, you want nothing but max aerodynamics
>>570835598secondaries buying 7 to the tune of 7 million because its the funny meme plane game is why 8 is an actual generational advancement instead of being a PS2 title rehash with shinier graphics #tyfyssame goes for countersignalling gachawhales who dumped boatloads of cash into ACI, those are pqtriots
>>570875832Not being that lazy is a good start spend a little time to find something good next time. Its people like that who for a few years used screen shots from AC7 as the cover image for news story. I always found those a good laugh from either the intern being that lazy or clueless maybe both.I got a few saved lets see ah here we go a Darkstar one. In this case the guy just googled Darkstar and got well a Darkstar but not the one he thinks it is.The Neucom fighter is a spacecraft aerodynamics mean all of jackshit to it.
>>570811429>Quirky pink hair anime girl to distract you from the otherwise lifeless casti'm not judging the cast on character design because it's not like the series ever cared much about that>Old ship being used in combat again trope It's a good trope, sorry>Battlepass slopAlright yeah>Arsenal bird but againSerially produced giant planes are cool, I hope it's like P:W, or at least like AC6/ACJA>Land battleship ripped from Project WingmanTMIt was a footnote back then, this one is uch cooler.>Exact same fucking gameplay for 20 yearsYou can't improve perfection.>Boring modern setting flying the same planes we've been flying since Air Combat>No cool 6th gen shit, no COFFIN, No indication this series will EVER move beyond vaguely 4thgen jets, you fight fucking FOXBATSThere was a thing called peace dividends which is why countries haven't been making many radically new airframes for most of the lifespan of the series (unless you're counting trainers/LIFT which nobody care about), the exceptions being like china and korea which involves typical east asian retardation. Hopefully we get F-47 in DLC when it's announced tho.>No radically branching choices like AC3I agree, but I also prefer ACX's system, there's also realistically going to be a trade-off between branching story and presentation quality.
>>570851536Shit man, thanks. I might be able to play this game after all. Xenia's cutscene issues are not as severe as the recomp, so if everything else works as intended, I should be good.
Man I wish Tasha is for (you).
>>570834453Wdym? X2 is cool, they gib us benis plen, with shark tooth
kate is right there for everyone too snooty for cute quirked up pinkhaired yukefoids
>>570878956If I want to be unfairly assfucked by physics magic I'd play 7 PvP instead.
>>570878956I don't understand how PA/Access games went from the ACX fictional planes to... this....
>>570879437I think they're just in a shitposting mood when making this game, Orgoi doing acrobatics and Spiridus performing PSM should be obvious where their mindset is at. Also you flying a commercial jet.
I'm so glad the vehicle modelling team went ahead with the drop tank part, it really does make fighter jets look "complete".
>>570879437What would a plane look like if we let your typical corporate board room design one with no engineers or anyone else involved just a bunch of old fat businessmen You get............the GAF-1 >Did you know someone made a mod for it in 7
>>570879839I mean, which plane doesn't get modded in 7.
>>570879989Uhhhh ummmmmThis one??
>>570880423no AC ingame model no mods, simple ahh
>>570879437They got into that Napkinwaffe grade cocainum just for X2.>>570879648>Also you flying a commercial jet.Best gimmick level in the game btw. Especially coop when the other players escort you the mission actually makes sense.
>>570879648Those airships are the wet dreams of Belkan airship engineers.>>570882105Or turn on cheats and give the 747 LAAM's
>use infinite no cooldown missile cheat in X2>you get no money on the result screen due to weapon usage penaltiesdamn, that's some anticheat alright.
>>570882575I lasted about two hours with X2. The mission with cannon turrets you had to destroy did me in. Jank jank jank jank jank
>>570887328What jank? The game while slow is rather smooth. Unless of course you mean you got with melee range of Balaur then that isn't jank the gun has low shot stats but its melee stats are maxed out.
>>570887328BONK'D
>>570888932
>>570889731Kek
>Grass grows, birds fly, sun shines and brother, I hurt people.
Baxter being protective over Tasha enough that he rebukes Jensen when the latter suggests painting killmarks on Tasha's plane is touching.
>>570891350With how much their superweapons defy physics, Spridus should've been a giant night raven.
Radar reflectors deleted from AC8's F-35, nice
>>570896571Looks like 8AGMs are back too.
Fuck Rena that autistic cuntJust finished Electrosphere doing Neucom -> Oroborus route. That final mission blowing up the aeon generators while Rena is glued to your ass lasering you every 10 seconds was miserable
>>570899031Cynthia is worth it
The hack helped fix the ground issue with Xenia. The game is still kinda stuttery, but that's just my hardware, it's all playable now.The new High G maneuver is a game-changer. 180 turns are now so much easier, it's a great feature. And the visuals are much better, but that's a given.But man, did we really need another story about an evil Russia expy attacking some country? We have, what, three of those now? Four? I'm pretty sure half of Strangereal is just Soviets, with the other half being some nondescript white people that exist to get pummeled by them when it's time to make another game. And I wish at least one Ace Combat game featured a cool, charismatic main villain. So far, the only one we got was Pixy.
I buyed it
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>>570856852Didn't the fucking THUD get more air to air gun kills than that?
anyone else tried this from nextfest? came outta nowhere for mehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4006840/Outrange_Strike/
>>570873305I really fucking hope fictional planes in AC never become this
>>570879648>Orgoi doing acrobatics and Spiridus performing PSMAh shit I forgot all about thatJesus christ X2 was such feces
>>570902475It's kind of funny that the F-105 had the most gun kills in Vietnam. But on the other hand a F-4E has the only(?) supersonic gun kill.
>>570906149So it's basically Ace Combat but with actual BVR combat? Mite b cool. I get the feeling my laptop won't run it well though.
>>570906149I get a sense of dread looking at radio lines like these, almost as if I can hear the voice acting through a still image.Not to unfairly pick on this game in particular, of course.I'll give it a shot.
>>570907245>>570908278>>570906149i just gave it a tryit's barebones unity trash that i don't think even has controller supportonly for god's stinkiest dumpster divers
>>570906149>>570908397Yeah, I second this.
>>570908397Yeah I don't like to be negative but I bounced off in a few minutes
>>570906149people don't realize how truly horrible of a first impression a bad or boring UI makes
>>570901106Try enabling 60fps in the F4 settings menu. The game ran way smoother for me after that. The only bug I noticed is the 2x as fast cutscenes but I skipped those all anyways
Playing 6 with the latest Xenia version, apart from having to enable the ground texture fix it's working fine. I'm getting missile trails and everything, and cutscenes are watchable audio wise. But I have to ask, did someone threaten PA with something if they didn't include 'dance with the angels' in every cutscene at least once? I should replay it and count them lmao.Also fuck Pasternak and his uavs holy shit.
SP2 S-ranked with the F-16. Was slow to kill the bats but thankfully my pre-time bonus score was high enough that it didn't matter. Will get to SP3 eventually.
>>570910167God I hate the blurry grainy look of 7. And the vignette. What the fuck were they thinking? >why don't we take our game and intentionally make it look worse for no fucking reason lol???
>>570902215Somebody got shot in the ass?
Putting your GF in silly outfits!
>>570910035canary or release?
>>570917364Canary. I think the cutscene audio is still a bit fucked, but not delayed or anything.
>>570915960>Yellow 4 in a virgin killer sweater
>>570917839maybe that anon got those issues due to a weak CPU I'll give it a try with xenia canary when I get to it
>>570906425Yeah it would be horrible when you build a spacecraft to look like a spacecraft
>>570924606That >>570873305 is not what spacecraft will ever look like
>>570906425If they ever decide to go full futuristic like with AC3 again, they should take inspiration from something like Macross.
>>570925660I don't understand the tail section of that plane
>>570906149I'll take a look at itNot very impressed with what I see looks very basic.I don't care if my system is better than rec specs>looking at the video/screenshots and those specs tells me one thing>These people can't code for shit.
>>570925307Have you never played a shump RTS in space in your life? It looks perfectly fine>>570926149That is a VF-1 the engines are also its feet
>>570928425>Have you never played a shump RTS in space in your life?No
>>570929445No wonder you don't know what good starfighters look like good play some old shooters or RTS games>Huh should have had an OR between shump & RTS opps typo
Whats up Doc?https://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/2067079786250564006Adelina Santos (VA: Yuko Sanpei)A spirited ship's doctor aboard the aircraft carrier *Endurance*. Her caring nature often earns her the affection of the crew, though she remains oblivious to it. She does not hesitate to speak her mind regarding the treatment of the wounded—even to the executive officer.
I do love how we are going to pick planes for our wingmen this time around
Finished AC6.Overall, I'd say it's a typical early seventh-gen title. This game tries to wow you in every way. The visuals are stunning - everything now has a new dimension to it, clouds are big and voluminous, contrails litter the sky, enemies explode into bright fireworks, and some of the maps are legitimately beautiful. The gameplay has been improved, too - High G maneuvers are amazing (and I really hope they'll stay for the rest of the series), plane controls are smoother than ever, their physics feel more realistic, guns don't feel as useless as they used to. The story is also on a new level - more cutscenes than ever, more characters. The scale of battles is amazing - tons of enemies, huge maps, multiple objectives, being able to land on the map for refueling instead of flying off to the side somewhere - all of that is really cool.However, it all comes at a cost - this game has no fucking content. Only 15 missions, really? I get that some of them are bigger than usual, but still, that's less than Air Combat. Also, only 15 planes? That's also less than fucking Air Combat. The campaign is linear, no forks at all. Compare that to, you guessed it, Air Combat. Even that game had branching paths, and so did every game that followed it. And with Zero and X, it felt like they were expanding this system more and more, only to ditch it now.Also, the story is just not very good. The "main heroine" sounds like she's being played by one of the HR ladies - absolutely zero emotion in her dialogue, which becomes grating fast. The war itself starts from nowhere and goes nowhere, it's the most thematically barren conflict since, yes, Air Combat.This is rather typical of the games from that era specifically. Next-gen tech wowed everyone more than ever, so everyone started chasing visuals while abandoning content, because having both was not an option yet, the tools weren't there. But at least in this case, they also polished the gameplay. Overall, pretty gud.Back to X2 now
>>570937529Now you understand why we say the cut scene story is bad while the in game story is just fine.The game is short due to them making both Zero and 6 at the same time. Along with 6 being the first game they made in HD something had to give and it was game length.
Speaking of AC6, I really wish they brought back the [SHOOT] mechanic for better missile tracking. As well as the targeting pip from ACZ. I wonder why they decide to abandon such obviously good past mechanics.
>>570938186Yeah, the in-game stuff was good. Big props to whoever played Ghost Eye, that dude poured his heart and soul into the role. His screaming and shouting in mission 11 was the best piece of acting this series has seen so far.Also, I think I'm not a big fan of music in these games. I still think that AC1 and AC2 had superior soundtracks, save for a few key songs in each of the subsequent games (like the flamenco music in Zero, or the final battle theme in 4). Most of it is just orchestral movie noise, it's not memorable, and this game was the worst offender so far. Nothing compares to how AC2 pumps you up for each mission with distinct tracks that aren't afraid to steal your attention.
>>570887913>What jank?The first proper boss you fight is an airship the size of XB-0 moving like Yellow 13 what do you mean what jank
>>570937529>Only 15 missions>The campaign is linear, no forks at allbe a little fairer to 6, nearly every mission has 3-6 sub-missions, which in previous titles would have been individual/branching missions
>>570940596I believe the word you're looking for is "kino".
>>570943419No I beleve the word he's looking for is "fucking retarded"
If AC8 somehow ends up in the Switch 2 those fuckers will have wrought actual black magic.
>>570947467All they have to do is put the graphics settings in ultra shit and run it at 720p
The great bentini
>>570906425but they do if you go far enough in the official timeline
>>570941930can't wait to fire a MPBM straight at that thing
What are 3 things you'd do in AC9 that have never been done in Ace Combat before
>>570963869>Eruseans as the good guys>Belkans sincerely mediating peace>Coffin Cessna as a joke plane
>>570963869Steal Chromehounds' online mode, pick one of three nations (or companies), do missions to fight for territory every season and each nation has their own super weaponSuperplane underwater mission where you fight a Scinfaxi/AlicornSex with Nagase
It would be exceedingly funny if AC8's story is straightforward pseudo-western guys vs sotoan not!iran/islamist done in an uninteresting and unsubtle way in a world where Iran didn't come out much worse out of the war.
>>570902475Sure did, but the F-8 still had the best KDR of any US fighter in the war. Even though Colt Mk12s were jammy pieces of shit.
https://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999902/20260617024/Long established video game controller/accessory company Hori is releasing a flight stick for 8 with PC/PS4/PS5 compatibility, like they've done with previous entries. Noteworthy in that this one uses Hall Effect sensors and its small looking throttle/break are integrated into the stick's base instead of a sidecar/island/whatever flight sim dudes call term these things.
>>570937529>Back to X2 nowEnjoy, it's the wackiest one.
>>570937051I am kind of wondering how effective they'll actually be, given there's 3 of them. Pixy and Shamrock are an order of magnitude better than 5's wingmen, for example, but there's only one each of them. If 5's wingmen were that good, they'd play the game for you. What kind of balance is PA trying to strike in this case? I suppose it won't matter too much either way, optimal strategy is very likely to be stick them all in Prowlers/Growlers and have them be your ESM slaves.
>>570965690>japan only
>>570909952People who skip all the cutscenes on their first time through a game should be hung in the town square.
>>570940596That ain't jank buddy it was designed to do that. These are the airships that make Belkan engineers hot bothered and very very wet
Do your wingmen in 5 prefer different planes or does it just matter in terms of A2G/A2A performance?
>>570960363I have this game it looks pretty you can select skins for your ship and all enemies from ever Galaga game ever madeThe downside and the reason the game was bad is its built around competitive leader boards. It was a product of its time and suffered for it in the long run.I head cannon that Ulysses was sent by the Galaxian's to try and stop the humans before they got into space.They grew to fear the humans when the expedition they sent to Earth was defeated by an Osean pilot flying a Sopwith Camel and a Belkan flying a Fokker Dr.I
>>570972004Actually yes they do but not how your thinking. It works on put them in the right plane they get kills put them in the wrong plane they kind of goof off a lotI put Nagase in a Russian plane she sucks can't get a single kill. I put her in a US plane she kicks ass, Grimm is happy with Mig-144 or Euro, Chopper likes US Navy birds doesn't care for Russian planes same for Snow. They all however love the Gripen. Especially its rockets they fire a lot of them.
>>570963869having a pool of wingmen to choose from, like you get to bring 2 pilots and you can choose from a roster of say 8, each with different let's say "stats" like maybe one is better at air combat, another is better at ground pounding, maybe one is more aggressive and another is less trigger happy, and maybe they could all have different personalities and radio lines and different banter with each of the other wingmen, and the more you fly with a specific wingman the more "affinity" or whatever they develop with you which improves their statsI know it's stupid but it could be cool i think
The anon playing JA if you stay with it long enough you can use this in game.
>>570974824Or you can take a Zero
>>570974824>>570975214They should have let you weaponize the 747.
>>570938354Ah, so that's why my missiles sucked in 6.
>>570975596You can turn on the cheats it should give you LAAM's
coffin = that jet interface in 3 where it allows you insane manouverability on the jet right (but I fail to see how this translates to anything ingame either way it controls the same) has that ever been a thing outside of 3? See it brought up a lot
>>570965567Gonna be weird when the FCU president gives Sotoa a deal he criticized his predecessor for and is arguably even more favorable to them than the old deal was. Joking aside, Leasath and Estovakia are both arguably better off after losing since those wars both took out their respective warmongers. The Leasath people even tore Navarro limb from limb. And also disassembled a Fenrir by hand, truly the most powerful race in the strange real world. One thing I'm curious about is if we'll actually counterinvade Sotoa at some point or if we'll only be fighting on the Usean continent.
>>570977508>has that ever been a thing outside of 3?The Falken in 5, then a bunch of planes in X
>>570977508Just played through X, the customisable planes use it, although I don't recall it ever being brought up in the games narrative.
>>570977508>where it allows you insane manouverability on the jet rightMore like superior awareness and information processing>(but I fail to see how this translates to anything ingame It doesn't
>>570977508I'll just link it less trouble to explain them this way.https://acecombat.wiki.gg/wiki/Connection_For_Flight_Interfacehttps://acecombat.wiki.gg/wiki/ENSI
>>570977508>coffin = that jet interface in 3 where it allows you insane manouverability on the jet rightIt's just the idea of ditching a traditional glass canopy in favour of a fully enclosed canopy and the addition of some kind of funky control method.Falken has it in 5, then the playable Raven in 7 is the 'manned' version with a COFFIN cockpit, then a handful of original planes in X - the Forneus, Fregata, Cariburn and Fenrir.X also iirc introduced the idea of the XFA-27 having a proto-COFFIN that used cameras under the cockpit to allow the pilot to see underneath them.The Falken used eye movements and voice commands as its control method, AC3's COFFIN uses brain-machine interfaces.
>>570979876I figure Kono did that with the 27's cockpit to make it look like the cockpit of the VF-19.
>tfw no qt tomboy italian navy pilot gdwhy even keep going
>>570963869Also there are some planes that have a semi-coffin system in real life, to be clear, though usually it's just because of designs that make a traditional cockpit impractical.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_X-59_Quesst#Design
I wonder if one of the first missions in AC8 is taking over an airbase. Or if we had one only to lost it in later missions, forcing Rex to use carrier plen only like in AC5
speaking of first missions reminds me HENCE, OUR GHQ IS A SITTING DUCK....the delivery on that was so legendaryI feel like I've known that line for years depsite just playing 4 5 has been a slow start so far in comparison, but maybe the chars will grow on me fast
>>570986259Hey buddy did you listen to that song yet?
>>570986563<< Woof! >>
>>570986563uhhhhhhhwhich one
>>570979876Speaking of brain machine interface, I wonder how these things filter intrusive thoughts like>What if I shoot TLS behind an ally as a prank?>Wouldn't it be fun to crash on the trees?>what if I want to touch the tunnel ceiling during a tunnel run?
>>570990257Actually great point, every single time while driving on a two way road and seeing cars pass by I think "what if I just turn left for one second and ruin a bunch of people's lives with one small turn of my wheel hehe that'd be fuckin' crazy if it actually happened" can only imagine jet pilots
>>570990686maybe the interface also calculates hormones and past thoughts? A split-second thought to turn right 90 degrees and drop flare make sense if the brain is currently processing a dogfight but a sudden split second of TLSing anyone in front of you when the previous thought is follow patrol leader will have a warning sign in form of electro-signal to the nerves?
>>570990686The plane is an extension of your body it only responds to what you want. Just like your body only responds to what you want it too not everything you think you want it to do.
>>570974824>>570975214Oh shit, that's actually really cool>Complete mission 1: Steel Axe in a second campaign playthrough>Complete mission 18: Alarm Clock in a second campaign playthroughI'm not doing multiple playthroughs because I have a ton of games to play as is, but I might just cheat to unlock all the planes, just to try this one. Sounds fun.
>>570991842If you don't have time just use the plane unlock cheat and try them and you can equip parts of them as well.You may have seen this image over the years but now it make sense why someone drew it years ago.
>>570992769Ah! posted the small one by mistake
X2 has to be the first game where the multiplayer balancing rears its ugly head in the game, what do you mean LSWM has no range and everything costs like a mansion? It's Proto-Infinity
Come on Kono give us this raid battle
https://vantor.com/blog/ace-combat-8-mission-worlds-vantor-spatial-foundation/?utm_source=ENT&utm_medium=Post_X&utm_term=acecombatSatellite imagery company that assisted PA in creating map textures.
Iranians pulling off actual Ace Combat level piloting.
>>571006772They also have a couple of F-4s bombing another base and survived I believe. At least they got to use some of these old timers instead of completely wasting them away to get bombed up without seeing any action.
>>571006772I wonder how those F-5s even managed to take off, being vintage jets having to deal with Iranian-tier maintenance and carry the massive balls of their pilots.
>>571006772Is there ground footage of this, like a ring camera or ip cam that saw them fly low
>>571008575Doubt the sailors had the time to capture the moment unfortunately. Also there's no chance we'll see any footage on the base from the ground level as it happened, thanks to the opsec.
pick 1>GUN has spread, potentially turning would-be misses into hits at range, unreliably>GUN has proximity fuse flak shells, potentially turning misses into scratch damage, direct hits still do full damage>GUN is homing, but loses damage as it tries to home, accurate shots from the player still do full damage>GUN is gimballed and can adjust aim a certain amount for accurate shots, but the heavy system calls for reduced barrels and reduced fire ratelust provoking image
>>571014178prox fuse, spread sucks, homing is shit and gimballs are for space ships
>>571014178all these suck except 2what i actually want is pw's heavy gun pod
>>571014178gun radar > prox fuse > homing > spreadAt least in terms of what I'd rather have on my plane in a dogfight.
>>570963869>Mission where you're the remote operator of an FPV drone, doing kamikaze tunnel runs through an actual building as they keep trying to keep you out, so the flight paths keep changing each time>You fly one of the carried fighter escorts for a flying aircraft carrier, Aigaion style, and you have to defend your base from enemy attacks and have to repeatedly land and takeoff in contested airspace to refuel and rearm>You're actually the one flying the overpowered boss superplane in the final mission, you're solo against an entire enemy airforce and navy
I just finished playing through the Infinity campaign, the missions were alright, but the briefing presentation and style is really good. Someone on the RPCS3 team needs to fix the trees though
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>>570829517Daymn that Hornet got Skills!
>there are at least two land battleships for AC8>one of them is Xanthoswith how theme naming work for superweapons, I have reason to believe land battleship 2 is going to be Balios and the third under construction is Pedasos
>>571015876are you on the experimental build?it fixes most of the graphical issues but not everything
>>571016607no im on stable, i just saw in the patch notes that they fixed some of it, nice
>>571014178>GUN is gimballed and can adjust aim a certain amount for accurate shots, but the heavy system calls for reduced barrels and reduced fire rateThat's ACX. And also a random, useless part in 7.
>>571014178That's actually a good concept for a potential WW2-era Ace Combat game. Come up with a bunch of ridiculous gun weaponry like shotguns, flak cannons, unguided projectiles of all kinds, etc. Basically, turn the game into a shooter in the sky, with cool prop planes of all kinds, and a focus on precise dogfighting as opposed to timing your missiles.And then the endgame plane is an F-86. A tad out of its time, but cool enough to ignore that.
>>571006772>my alleged enemy is perforning AC tier attacks>in real lifeI will now root for you. You are cleared to engage.
>>571016482The Latin/Greek naming schemes for Sotoan units are pretty cool.
>>571002692God that is lovely to look at
>>571006772If this wasn't confirmed by US sources too I'd be inclined to believe this was total bullshit. I'd still like to know if they were F-5s or the weird F-5 variant the Iranians made that has two vertical stabs.>>571007797It's probably easier to find replacement parts and add new upgrades to the F-5 given how widely it was exported.>>571014178Yeah I'll take the giant shotgun because it's funny. Spread fire is always my favorite thing in shmups or twin stick shooters.
>>571002692Man, this looks great. Every building is its own model, no more scenery just painted on the ground.
>>571021394>Every building is its own model, no more scenery just painted on the groundits been like that since 6
>>571006772are they modernized F-5s or old ones without FBW and auto trimcause the absolute balls on these lads if its the latter
wtf I didnt know the iranians had put dual vertical stabs on their F-5sbased as fuck, looks awesome
>>571022710Weird shit starts to happen when you have keep old planes running. It looks like a slightly retarded Hornet and I like it.
>>571021829Not really. Even in 7, they were getting close to it, but maps still had plenty of flat paintings.
>>571014178If I had to choose between these options in an AC game, I'd definitely pick prox fuses.>>5710158392 and 3 sound fun as hell.
>>571021394Sotoans can't triforce
>>571015839>You fly one of the carried fighter escorts for a flying aircraft carrier, Aigaion style, and you have to defend your base from enemy attacks and have to repeatedly land and takeoff in contested airspace to refuel and rearmescort missions are never good>you're solo against an entire enemy airforce and navyace combat is already this
>>571026549>escort missions are never goodIt wouldn't need escort mechanism desu
>>571026549>escort missions are never goodNot true. Old school space sims lile Tie Fighter or Freespace figured out how to make fun escort missions.Modern gamers mostly hate them because they suck in fps games where you escort some fragile npc that gets stuck pathfinding.
>some random Eastern European terrorist has a superweapon>he decides to attack fucking Japan of all places>because clearly that's the first US-aligned power that comes to mind when you're in the middle of Europe>managed to fly a giant flying fortress over half of the globe>JSDF instantly responds by placing SAMs in the middle of Shibuya without warning the civiliansYou know, maybe moving this franchise into the real world was not such a great idea.Also, plane controls in X2 are weird as hell. When you roll, the plane doesn't around its axis, it does so around some arbitrary circle.
>>571030026The story gets 10x more lame when you find out what's behind all of it. Do you want a spoiler? it's all orchestrated by some billionaire CEO wanting to get more money and power through global insurance fraud
>>571031152The fucked thing is that it's probably the most realistic scheme in the series.
>>571031152Not gonna read it until I get to the end of the game. I wanna experience this first.Also, why the fuck is this steel hunk of shit the size of the Titanic performing backflips in the sky holy shit
>>571031784Yeah but we don't want realism in ace combat do we
JA was made by the same people who made X, and X was awesome, so I don't know what the fuck went so wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6HYiLS8dUQ
Man, the song was actually dope, but was it really the best choice for a slow-as-fuck desert level where you only shoot at helicopters and tombs? Not like the final boss or a huge dogfight, but that mission.I'm starting to wonder if this game is like an elaborate shitpost or something.
>>571034106you were warned about X2 broback in the day i was real hyped for it because ACX was probably my most played game on the PSP, and then X2 came out and it was dookie
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gee, I wonder if Lex Luthor is the villain. No, can't be.
Oh, they just straight-up reused the music from AC2. Funny, considering how I just mentioned it yesterday.
>>571031967I mean, it's still the same anime bullshit writing with the same story morals, money le bad. Put X2 in Strangereal and it would still make sense, the actual bad thing about X2 is the horrible gameplay, everyone feels like floating balloon and everything in the shop requires 3 campaign runs to afford.
>>571031967JA is awesome tho
Ahhh this game looks so pretty I need more pics and footage
>>571031784How is that realistic?
>>571043160is that a F-15J or F-15C?
>>571043160Imagine the amount of news coverage mistaking the game footage for RL in the future.
>>571044523F-15CIf memory serves me right, the J doesn't have the thicker fairing on top of the left vertical stabilizer (on the J it looks the same as the one on the right).
>>571043160The more I look at it the more it looks as big of a gap with AC7 as AC7 with AC:AH visually
>>571041937No it's terrible
>>571041937... No? It's genuinely abysmal in every respect, save for the music (which is still below the series' average).
>>571050117Graphics are a wee bit better than X, but that's it
>>571026549I mean, you're an escort fighter, but it wouldn't be an escort mission, you'd have to fly ahead of your carrier and destroy all the enemies before the carrier gets there, fast enough to give you time to go back to your carrier and rearm before the next waves gets to the carrierAnd for the solo against an entire enemy army, I don't mean more or less solo because your allies are useless, I mean literally solo, everything on the map is trying to kill just you, but you're in something like a full strength Nosferatu, with simultaneous ADMMs, EMLs, ECM pods, and UAVs.
>>571044438Some bald asshole fucking up the world in a harebrained scheme to sell insurance or cryptocurrency scams or whatever to people is literally real life in this day and age.
Well, my Joint Assault journey ended on a completely bizarre note. I got to the mission where you need to fly a 747 through a canyon, and the game decided to shit itself completely. All sound disappeared, and whenever I press the fire button, the emulator crashes. Tried restarting, rebooting, playing with save files, nothing works. The game just fucking dies. In all my years of vidya, I never had any issues with PPSSPP, so I'll take it as a sign.Honestly, this game is pretty damn crap. The story is not terrible, really, it's retarded but in a fun way. The same goes for the setpieces, like a giant flying evil fortress of death that's somehow more maneuverable than your plane, or flying a fucking 747 through a canyon. The music is kinda decent I guess, more interesting than in AC6, but AC2 tracks stick out way too much. But man, the gameplay suuuuuuucks. Half of the planes are so damn slow it feels like playing with a flying slug, and the other half are insanely jittery and spin out of control with a single nudge of the stick. You can't actually roll in this game - moving the stick instead does this weird fucking thing where your plane starts moving in a circle on the screen, which is insanely uncomfortable after 8 games of muscle memory. None of it is fun, and I'm glad to have a reason to bail early. Honestly, it's like if Hollywood made a shitty Ace Combat movie adaptation, and this was the crappy movie tie-in game on the PSP. Like that stupid Dragon Ball movie game.Anyway, moving on to Assault Horizon. Finally, I'm on PC, my home turf.
>>571056137AH is... fine. Enjoy the 'splosions.
>>571058229Started it. I guess I just found the aforementioned Hollywood movie.
Ace Combat, amirite
Oh, you fucking bet I will.
>>571037597Access Games really seems to love the PS1 games and AC2 specifically, I think half of JA's soundtrack is just reused from that game. And yet the actual AC2 remake is mostly original music.
>>571056137>>571058229AH is fine only if you pin in your head that it isn't an Ace Combat gameIf you think you are playing an Ace Combat title you'd hate it
HOW FUCKING LONG IS THIS FIRST FUCKING MISSION
>>571006772>Ace Combat level piloting>Shit pilots have done since WWII>Things Ukrainian pilots do todayThat isn't AC level piloting thats just being smart and sneaky in battle.Still interesting however, Iran is about the only arab army who's army isn't complete dogshit
>>571064692Yeah that's because they're not Arabs.
>>571063254putting the ass in ass horizon, right
>>571016482>XanthosWas also the name of a Lycians city that was later conquered by anyone of notePA could have picked the name of that ship for another reasonBefore it fell to the Persians >The Lycians retreated into the city, which Harpagus then besieged. The Lycians destroyed their acropolis, and killed their wives, children and slaves, before engaging the enemy in a suicidal attack.Large weapons and suicidal attacks aren't an unknown thing in Strangereal
>>571016482>>571065453>Podarge (lit. 'swift-foot') is a harpy, a personification of a swift wind and mate of Zephyrus, the West Wind.>She is the mother of Balius and Xanthus — two divine horses renowned for their swiftness and who were gifted to Achilles, running as fast as the wind.
>>571044695Where have you been? countless "news" sites were using screens shots from 7 for years one is even posted in this thread. While China just flat out used video from it for uhhh crap I forgot what they used it in. No not putting Stonehenge behind some tanks it was something else
>>571063254Buddy please tell me you aren't playing AH on Ace difficulty.
>>571063254You stopped on JA due to a bad iso now you moved to AHWhy do you torture yourself like this? JA is bad but at least it doesn't have mandatory DFM and chopper/AC-130 missions.
>>571066652The Stonehenge thing was unfortunately some shitpost from Billibilli and not a real thing from Chinese TV. The official promo video of the QBZ-03 assault rifle does actuallt feature footage of it keyholing a targat at like 25 yards, that was funny.
>>571067965i have this
He better live up to that last name.David Jenkins / VA: Akihiro TajimaMaintenance Chief of the aircraft carrier *Endurance*. A former Air Force maintenance officer who was rescued while adrift in a life raft. He was stationed at the FCU Eastern Base during the early stages of the war but was forced to retreat westward. Having served on the front lines since the war's onset, he is well-versed in the capabilities of the Sotoa military.
>>571068458Not the video I meant but that's really funny. The Chinese can be some funny motherfuckers when they take the stick out of their asses for a minute.
>>571068458KekI don't know which one that other anon meant but this was good
The demon board on the round table....
The mission intros are such a downgrade from 04 so far man, but the game feels really nice to actually play
>>571077923Also the MG in 5 is by far the easiest one to use so far, smoothest toowhat's the distance indicator used with imperial btw? Used to be I'd lock at sub 1000, now it's 5000, I use imperial to match with the voice comms
>>571078916its definitely never been this usable in any of the games so far
>>571077923Yeah, the first thing I really felt in 5 was that the controls felt a lot better. Though in a way it's a lot less "weighty", hope 8 hits the balance.
>>571080292yeah i was just thinking they're incredibly smooth but maybe too smooth? even the default plane so far handles as well as the su-37 did in 4 but i'm just still used to 4, its always jarrin goin from game to game immediately lol
>>571080469For me, it was only when I got the F-22 that 04's handling improved massively, like a night and day difference from the earlier planes.
>>571075420ouijabros...
>broke up 15 years ago>his callsign is still heartbreak geez cap get over it
>>571083243its complicated
>>571056137where do you even find a PC copy for AH nowadays?
how come some people say osea is US + japan? Besides nagase I didn't see anything Japanese so far its all very american with all the other names etc
how good is this fucking starter jet though? wtfis this a given a later tier jet that you'll soon lose and start from scratch type thing, maybe...
>>571085068their military is organized after the JSDF in both name convention and personnel ranking iirc>OADF, OMDF, etc
>>571078916Don’t remember well for 4 if it’s different, but in 5, the distances are in feet and IIRC your basic missiles lock on roughly around a mile (5280 ft), it might be at 5000 ft even but I think it’s a little longer than that.>>571085068The only Japanese element I remember is that they call their army the “self defense force” Japan-style.>>571085610There are basically no bad planes in 5, but they do get quite a bit better. The whole flight model is more agile than in 4.
>>571086030>>571085610I hope 8 remembers that it’s ok for the starter plane to be good.
>>570947467Switch 2 can run UE5, albeit with DLSS. It will look ugly, but it can do it.
>>571085610Stats lie.A lot of low tiers can move better than F-22's. You see that a lot with reoccurring planes like the MiG21.
>>571087075hmm maybe post 5 I dunno, in 1-2-3-4 it was definitely a case of more expensive = usually better, altho for me I always value stability the most, especially since sooo many missions in the series were ground target focused so far (which I don't mind though pulling off a good bombing run is more satisfying than dogfighting even sometimes) I'm now an F-15 fan though can't wait to unlock that thing, i fuckin loved 4, amazing game amazing simple story with the cutscenes n narrator, wonder if 5 will surpass it
oh its back to you can buy multiple jets that are lost when one is destroyed?look at that beauty
>>571088395ohh its for the wingmenadvanced
>>5710779235 is the first game where your plane has drop tanks. If your fast you can see them drop on certain missions. Like that one as soon as you spawn.
kinda funny that the soviet based faction is flying F-35s
Xenia Edge mostly has compatibility with AC6 and Project Sylpheed by now, right?
>>571091006The Yuke airforce is about 90% US/Euro for reasons never answered.Lets say they had a long war with Sota and instead of trying to rebuild for years they just bought Osean in mass quantity
Missing Assault Horizon but oh well, plan to fill in Zero with an 8 pre-order when I've got the opportunity. Discovering the way to launch emulated games from Steam is a bad thing for an OCD person.
>>571092083Assault Horizon is not an Ace Combat game so it does not belong there.
>>571092083I like how it now tracks playtime for nonsteam games, pretty cool, all of this shit is due to the steam deck because you need steam ingame to enable steam input etc features, it also allows me to put screenshots of emulated games rly easily tho I guess you could always do thatI like to do that then in like 4-5 years look back on what I've played by going through my old screenies
>>571092083>Discovering the way to launch emulated games from Steam???Why?
>>571093223So I can lump a series in with itself instead of each individual emulator
>>571093223>>571093421autism then
>>571093904
>>571092460Hey man I was talking with you about silent hill the other day. Good to see you here.
>>571091987probably sold by Grunder during Yukes reconciliation with Osea post '95 Belkan War.
>>571094705oh cool damn I didn't expect a /horg/ poster here I only recently got into emulators and figured ace combat then silent hill was a perfect place to start, they got so good now, the ace ps1 and ps2 trilogies literally emulate perfectly, if only they can solve xenia and 6, orrr just keep progressing with the recomp until its fully playable since I only have two games left to 6 >>571091043i'll keep this ver in mind and give it a try too
>>571077923Isn't that a special in-mission briefing, tho? Normal briefings are, generally, ok in 5.
>>571095615yeah lol that one was still, I miss this song...https://youtu.be/vJjcCGGv4HEliterally still stuck in my head
I FUCKING LOVE ACE COMBAT HOLY SHIT
>>571091006Not like Russia has a whole lot of modern stuff Yuktobania could be using instead, especially not in 2004. It would've been cool to see Yak-141s, but PA seems averse to trying to tackle actual VTOL mechanics, as demonstrated by the Harrier being in damn near every game in the series but only flyable in AssHor and Infinity.
>>571096512>Yak-141sYou have now seen them
>>571097759Weren't flyable then either. Somebody's got something against jump jets over at PA.
>>571096512maybe cause it would make ground attack missions too easy or something if you could just hover? I dunno
>>571095087>i'll keep this ver in mind and give it a try tooHaving tested it myself just now, there's a ground fix hack you'll want to enable. Otherwise besides maybe some shadow issues and the lens flare off of the sun being broken, it's pretty playable. Cutscene audio and desync occurs easily due to first time loading of assets, though.
>>571098814is it any better than xenia canary tho?
>>571098275That is an easy fix you can only use VTOL for landing or free flight.
>>571099263if your already coding vtol flight mechanics, why would you limit it to the landings/takeoffs or free flight
>>571100083maybe you can make it so that VTOL will slowly stall your aircraft and you can't accelerate in that mode? if the main question is to prevent exploitation of VTOL flight to keep ground attack mission from getting too easy
>>571100083You stop to shoot at ground targets >missile missile missileYou can't evade or get enough speed to avoid and get hit>missile missile missileYour damage is now 70% or shot downYou don't go VTOL IRL outside of landing or takeing off or to fly alongside a WWI bomber. It really has no use in this game unless you include special "turret" shooting sections just like AH had The only reason to have it would be goof off in free mode to check out stuff and a different way to land and take off.
>>571098275They could just make the Harrier playable and not bother with the VTOL, exactly like they did in Infinity and AH. It’s not like they use VTOL for anything but takeoff and landing in real life anyway. Never made any sense to me why they won’t include it, I love the Harrier.
>>571100803>You stop to shoot at ground targets>>missile missile missile>You can't evade or get enough speed to avoid and get hit>>missile missile missile>Your damage is now 70% or shot downsounds like a far better balancing decision than just arbitrary limitations "because it would be OP"
HORRY SHIET
>>571101459? not ace combat
>>571101778it's kind of one of those games that blatantly follow the baseline of ace combat, but then threw a macross missile spam arcade bend on it and you have easy stall maneuvers/ada limiter by simple deceleration. so yeah, not ace combat, but adjacent enough for some.
>>571101945its the ace combat general not the random ass shmup general
>>571102073there isn't a shmup general in the first place. and by your logic all AC clones are disqualified. guess no one should talk about anything even remotely alike or knocking stuff off like Airforce Strike Delta, and maybe we should draw the line at official AC games too so no Sky Crawlers.
>>571103047retard pissy he cant just blog about whatever the fuck hes playing in the ACE COMBAT general thread for ACE COMBAT games
>>571103307guess no more Project Wingman, everybody
>>571103384No more Ridge Racer and no more talk about real life planes and plane related things too.
>>571103384FAN thinks hes too good for Ace Combat anyways
uh the last missions of AC6 are surprisingly hard, and I've S rank-Ace'd both ACX and JA
>>571103680the...Chandelier mission?
>>57110408212 and 13
>>571104292>12the canyon flight? was it the time limit or the second part with battle royale?
>>571104292For 12Which part?For 13Start at the airfield and work your way across it makes it much easier.
>>571098275No it wouldn't because then SAMs and AA guns would be able to actually hit you.
>>571103384Project Wingman is at least an Ace Combat clone. That isn't.
>>571105857Risky toothpicks
>>571104292You might have not been using the allied attack/allied cover. Make sure to do so, it's super powerful
Why didn't we get a cover art reveal? It's not fair bros...
>>571109197yellow 4s ridiculously humongous ass...
>>571084241Piracy.
