>Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast, optional PvP and is voiced in Korean and Japanese.>Useful Links and Beginners FAQ (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING STUFF)https://rentry.org/ssgguidehttps://star-savior-arcana-db.pages.dev/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W1nl3zfBdrgNCjLCVt7lBn0UzuwPLVnF2JkC4iamRic/edit?gid=1473713484#gid=1473713484https://tychara.com/StarSavior>Arcana Friendlisthttps://pastebin.com/2zjb0gTz>Downloadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMainhttps://apps.apple.com/app/id6443597557>Resethttps://time.is/1900+UTC>BannersWedding EpindelOmega>EventsWedding WarsDoes Omega dream of electric friends?>Guilds:ScarcityLummiesLuckletsHildfriendsHuldraPrevious:>>570255294
>OP didn't update the spreadsheet link againhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mGC4TTUo8d6-Ik-KsV9yqWy8lcBijVdUCeb0wVtaZh4/edit?gid=305820094#gid=305820094
Hildfriends is down to about 20 active members, how are the other guilds doing? Is it time to merge?
>>570907182I can ask danchode about a merge, we keep needing to shuffle and kick people every guild defense
>bullet is looping an AI doompost song about bside
asherah blowjobs fat ugly old bastards in public restrooms
>>570907396and Ryuko-chan is right there with her
How will Ryuko afford to live now that bside's almost confirmed to go under?Will she need to sell her body?
>>570893008I bloomed her after Clarissa. Her lewd arcpoint sold me and Bullet says she's good, plus there's no other good PvE sun defender
CS is EoS'ing?what the fuck?I thought it was in maint mode
>>570907882maint endedkind of fucked up that they didn't even wait for people to get their pvp Hild skin before announcing it
Bullet's doing some kind of survey on stream? Did KR get something we didn't?
>>570897893>>570896363I'm kind of whitepilled on SS, if they treat it poorly like a disposable child like CS the fans won't stand for it and support their third gameThey need to give it a decent run else the bad taste CS's demise left in people's mouths will never go awayThough the studio could go under before the new game comes out if that arca employee leak is real
https://www.starsavior.com/en/news/019ed3b9-c772-739f-8fd0-4bdd53ab745fRepostan patch notes.
Bullet is going insane on stream in real timeThis is kind of funny to watch
>>570908264i think he's played four songs in a row where the chorus was "make star savior great again"
>>570908264I don't see why with the confirmation that their 3rd game is a reboot of counterside
>>570908465The tens of thousands he spent on CS won't be carried over bwo
Bullet funded Star Savior and the third game
>he's been non stop 10 rolling on CS for an hour now and his pull currency isn't even going down
it's like watching a clinic ward patient with internet access and a computer live
>>570909016They put unlimited resources in the game, probably by mistake since the eos notes said they were giving 300 ac a day.
>>570909197kek literally this
I never played CS but damn some of these males hes rolling look...zesty...like kpop boyband starsI'm kind of glad I didn't play it
>>570909509you haven't seen the bald and muscular black guy yet
...is that....
>>570909668yes newfag, Counterside had a vtumor collab a long ass time ago
>>570909668You didn't know?
>>570909668I hope SS never collabs with holoshit
>>570909748Notice how they never did another one?
>>570909668probably a bigger stain in the game than the zesty males
>>570909708>newfagThis is the star savior general, not "dead gacha slop general who collabed with holo EN" general
>>570909748a single finger on the monkey's paw curls...phase lmao
>>570909827newfag, I heard about it and I never watched the holoslop OR played Counterside
>>570909668This is surreal because we know Korean incels HATE vtubers after what happened with that one dyke holoEN vtuber, who was cancelled from voicing lines in some gook league-ripoff game because she said it was "boar-ing"Hopefully they learned their lesson but who knows with these out of touch boomer CEOs>>570909792>>570909793How badly did her banner flop?
Gura is on counterside too
>>570907987holy fucking shit i forgot about that! so is the freyja hilde bunnygirl skin going to release before the eos?
>>570909959it was years ago, way before the gender war in korea got as bad as it is
Holy shit Bell's sister is in CS!
>>570910070uncanny resemblance
I just want to say that I had this before today.
>>570908465bitch i'm not going through a rehash of 6 years of lore and characters i already spent learning. i'm not going through another reboot mw slop where i have to deal with retarded fans who're like "OMIGOSH, MAKAROV! ONIONS~" even though the new makarov is utter garbage compared to the og
>>570910262thats hildr?
>>570909959The vtubers counterside collabed with were actually popular in Korea for some reason
>>570908465No one wants a reboot bwo, people want the story they were following for 6 years to be finished.
>>570909793the only real thing that made it a stain was how badly they fumbled the collab three separate times new origins was worse>>570909959it wasn't a banner, it was five $35 skins that you could get one for free after doing a shit ton of stuff, but there were issues, so it pissed vtuberfags off>overpriced skins>took too long to get the free one>they kept fucking up the tasks, so some people literally couldn't get it (Guitar Rock fucked over a ton of people)>even if you did get the skin, it was random the first time around, which pissed off people that couldn't get their favorite (doesn't help that one member around that time pissed off a bunch of people, due to her own retardation, so they couldn't avoid getting Mori'd)>added another member to the collab, but you couldn't get her for free>they didn't have banners up for the characters that got the skins>>570910402some time before that stuff, holo had a big boost in korea because someone pulled a Sam Hyde on the Korean news
Lucklets bros... assembleWe just got into the top 10%, do your guild defense now to hold the rank for an extra 100 gems
>>570909959>How badly did her banner flop?The Holos in CS weren't actually characters, but skins for existing characters. This was one of several reasons that the collab was an absolute disaster, damaged the reputations of Bside and CS, and kickstarted the game's death spiral.
>>570908465>>570910495It's such a raw deal:>you lose all your progress/skins>it takes ~3 years to develop>it's made by Ryu (e.g. dogshit)>it'll take another 6 years to catch up to where you were (if ever)
>>570907396Wrinkly Witch hands typed this post.
>>570910675>>it's made by Ryu (e.g. dogshit)Yeah didn't the CS lead say he was leaving the company entirely when CS got the end of content announcement?
Lucklets and Hildfriends should mergeLucklet GM has been gone for almost 3 weeks
>>570908465they're gonna give us a hoyoesque musou game that'll have a fraction of the CS roster, because they release a character every four weeks
>>570909959oh it wasn't a banner. uh, some context here. counterside had like...4 collabs i believe in it's lifetime? guilty gear, code geass, danmachi and hololive en. guilty gear, code geass and danmachi came with new units be they characters or operators (ramlenthal, ino, sol, millia, may, jack-o. lelouch, c.c, kallen, villeta (swimsuit). hestia, bell, ryu, ais. respectively)the hololive en collab was different because instead of new units, each of the girls were paid skins that replaced already existing units (so they had new voicelines and effects, but the animations were basically the same). think of injustice 2 and how you could turn flash into reverse-flash, supergirl into powergirl etc. i don't remember the full details but the thing was, i believe you could only get one of the five girls as skins randomly for free, and the rest you had actually spend money on. it was a shitshow i managed to avoid because it was on counterside global and i was still in counterside sea at the time. i personally thought it was crap because the skin idea was dumb and all en vtubers are garbage unless its cunny goddess shondo
>2 hours later and Bullet is still spamming rolls
>get a bricked run>somehow is now my newest high scorewhat the fuck
Shepherd and Lurcher's public execution did it for me
>>570909509Early CS had cool males. The kind of male characters that are completely absent from all other gachas, for some reason.
>>570911118yeah, the scoring for journey seems like nonsense.>>570911148terrible balance mistake, but sovl
>>570911196Early Counterside character design was basically shonen anime style.
>>570910391that's horizon, you stupid human>>570910730he was the head producer, but since he was the guy doing most of the communicating via dev notes and anni streams, yeah i guess he could be seen as the lead. and he said he was stepping down in the end of content notice, not leaving. at least, nothing in the dev notes posted said he left. maybe kr has something idk
>>570911196Hahaman and Curian were also pretty cool, despite them fitting more into the prettyboy korean aestheticWhoever thought people cared about Knight of the Lake enough to give him the second to last ASSR banner needs to be shot though
>>570911196>not including bulle-i mean, na yubinsikkeuropkkunnyo intensifies (ykyk)
>>570911435>HahamanWait, Rean was in CS? wtf
>>570911603Na Yubin was never cool and he only appeals to autistic Korean people (eg. Bullet)
>>570911603He spent the entirety of ep 7 seething passive-aggressively like a woman about Hilde.
What do I use this on?I have Lacy 40, Rosaria 35, wAsherah 40, Charlotte 35Is unlocking bFrey the right choice?
>>570912306another waltz dupe
>>570912306yeah, bFrey is crazy good. her skill is worth a ton of CP. the events all have good effects.
>>570911603he's on "mogged by genderbend" tier with Roy and Kyle
>>570912343>>570912384Alright I think I'm going to choose bFrey, thanks
Reminder to do journeys (or spam auto for parent farming) before the event ends tomorrow, you break even on invitations
>>570912418shit i forgot about the female na yubin skin. yeah she looked so hot and had great thighs. i wish there had been an event with yubin and shiyoon, getting stuck with female yubin and shiyoung, and just getting absolutely flustered, irate and realizing how everybody else has to deal with them all the time. all the while i guess amy and admin are laughing there ass off in the corner and everyone else is just straight confused at the situation
>>570913526whose the best parent farmer? is it still res 9 smile? do i just dump full strength arcana and pray, that's it?
>>570913627For STR: Smile or RosariaFor VIT: wCarmen or EmilyI think Clarissa and wEpindel might be good subs for STR too because their item is utterly broken
>>570913706Just make sure you ALWAYS use Rosaria's arcana, you want talent of insight on both parents
>>570906752Give it to me straight counterside bros: How did STUDIOBSIDE handle counterside? Did it die because of the company or was it something else? I'm kinda worried with this games' future.
What savior got a rateup during the Luna new year event?There's EN text variation so I guess they won't rerun it for global
>>570915179not a cuckoldslop bro but the running theory is the moment BSide decided to put their chips on table for developing Star Saber they started yanking people of the game slowly and thats when the quality starting going down hilland that the inital maintenance mode announcement was that they finally went all hands on deck for the large pile of debt they need to pay back. Counterside's official EoSing and their "reboot" plans just opened a whole new can of worms regarding what the fuck is going on with BSide leadership
>>570915179They had a good game that was initially successful and then fucked it all up with multiple bad decisions and PR disasters.
Casino 2 event assets are all in English so it's prepped and ready to goWe're probably getting the second round of bunny girls very soon
>>570918123That's cool and a but what about Frey and Emily?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LwtTQa1p1QcKwtwjOqYpKboLM5sBDG4j/view?usp=drive_linkThis is the full decrypted game right? Haven't checked it out yet
Events with EN assets which are ready to go:>Asherah and Epindel event (new year)>Winter event (Emily, Trish with Bell's sister)>Muriel and Luna fight club event>Orbital search team event >main story episode 4 event
>>570919189Yeah it is.
Does pity carry over from limited banners?
>>570919825>Pityhaha hahahaHahahahahaha
>>570919565Wtf Trish actually looks....hot here?Also are her bunny ears clip on...she's ningen?
>>570919825Yes, it's more like sparks on nikkers tho.
>>570919978Blindbro...
>>570919565>Trish in her 3DCG: a sticc>Trish in CG art: THICC
>>570919978She was never a rabbit girlDo her journey..I swear none of you retards fucking read
>>570920419Don't read and can't see either
>>570919978>Wtf Trish actually looks....hot here?It's common issue with this game, 2D art not matching 3D models.
>>570921497True
>>570921221they were from the global launch Special Observation tab that let you spark any of the non standard observation saviors and arcanas
>>570922010Ah right, I forgot that shit existed because it got removed from the shop
>>570921497>>570922008Can we please let the 2D artist also led the 3D model direction? Because I love how he draw jugs
>>570921497i still don't get how this occurs. isn't it normally the 3D models are based off of the 2D art? so how can SIZE differences be such a constant issue in this game?
>>570922476the concept artist and the illustration artist are not the same person
>>570922008Holy fuck....Luna's Lunas....
Nearly all the backgrounds in this game are really beautifully drawn 2DBut for some reason this one in the wedding event stuck out to me, like it's some 3D shit blend...Maybe the rumors of bside losing employees are true, I hope they didn't lose the background artist...
>>570922917This is just a still of inside the game stage, you can see images of all them occasionally during the loading screens
>>570922529but the concept artist is the one who comes up with the character, right? so don't they get the final say if the girl is flat, big-titied, thin, thicc or whatever? there has to be some design blueprint that the 3D modeler and the 2D illust artist are basing their shit on, no?
>can't read the story and thus make shit up about what we thing a character is>can't pay attention to Savior physical appearance (outside booba) so we think a hair accessory was animal ears>can't remember old content so we think they are leaks when get reposted>finding a common image type that looks odd means the background artist left as part of the doompostingwe aren't this stupid right bros?
>>570924442The simple explanation is that no one paid attention to Trish and no one did her journey because she's low tier.
>>570924442Literally nobody cares about Trish since she's garbo
Is Annah and wCarmen better than Fei and wCarmen?
>>570924782yes
>>570924782Fei sucks ass
>>570924834>>570924859Why?
>>570924927Fei is too squishy even with w.Carmen and rng
>>570924927>>570925015until they change up how Assassins/Fei's CP is calculated, shes just an easily crushable twig in pve content
>>57092485950% luck loser exposing himself omegaLOL
>>570924442>can't read the story and thus make shit up about what we thing a character isNobody read her Journey because she's the worst savior in game, even Carmen is better since she is good in PvP despite being on her tier for PvE>can't pay attention to Savior physical appearance (outside booba) so we think a hair accessory was animal earsThere's canon animal girls in the story so it's not absurd to think she was one, you'd need to do her Journey or event story (not out) to find out the truth>can't remember old content so we think they are leaks when get repostedYeah this one was on me, I'm going through 100,000 files individually looking for swimsuit leaks, my brain short circuited because that shop panel has been removed since fucking mid April>finding a common image type that looks odd means the background artist left as part of the doompostingThat image does look like shit thoughever even for this game's 3DCG standards, the problem is they didn't make a 2D version so it looks awful with the sprites on top of it. It's made to be the combat arena, not a background. it's night and day difference if you compare it to pic related.
>>570924442We're smarter than /CZN/ which is all that matters
>>570924782>>570924927>fei's CP which directly affects how much damage/how sturdy she can be is bricked by how game scores you so even if you gear fei properly+perfectly with low crit rate/speed to focus on crit damage then attack+HP it'll dock her CP and she cant tank boss attacks even if you win the 50/50 coinflip>50/50 coinflip, either you win and shes great or you whiff 4+ times in a row and shes a brick>annah/w-carmen combo perfectly in boosting themselves+teams action gauge repeatedly and annahs self healing is strong too
What did bside mean by this.....what does it mean....who could it be???
>>570925908its a template bwo
>>570924927Because dodge isn't actually dodging the attack. You only take half damage from the actual damage instead. It's okay but when the boss mash your head for 10k and your hp is 20k instead of frontline standard of 40k. High chance you get chipped out by mobs since Wcarmen protection has cooldown.
be real with me brosdid the half anni save us?
>>570925908Look at his smug face, he's mocking us after he EoS'd counterside
>>570926116if it did, Counterside EoSing won't be helping
>>570926116no
>>570926116probably no, even with all the free gibs and being able to SSR 4* characters companys in a rough spot. And im pretty sure whenever ryuko scrounges the work to release counterside 2 in the future we'll have to be the ones dooming about EoS assuming it doesnt all crash and burn before then
Are we rollan for evil woman maid edition?
>>570926606nobody is rolling for her or Ceres/chink duo when swimsuit alts are around the corner
>>570926116no and I've already stopped playing after todays newsI'm going back to limbus since this game is doomed, nothing of value was lost since these threads have been either dead or full of counterc*ck posters
Gee, I dunno Bside. Maybe you should focus more on stabilizing the game first before making a fucking new one.
>>570926524>And im pretty sure whenever ryuko scrounges the work to release counterside 2 in the future we'll have to be the ones dooming about EoS assuming it doesnt all crash and burn before thenI think if SS is under threat of EoSing, there won't be a BSide, let alone Counterside 2
>>570928371Good riddance. After what they did to Counterside, I hope this game EOS and they go bankrupt
>>570928449calm down /czn/igger
>>570928501>czn out of nowhererent free much?
>he didn't deny it
>>570928683I don't play smile gook slop with males, you're the one obsessed with it enough to bring it up faggot
>570928783>I don't play smile gook slop with males>570928449>Good riddance. After what they did to >Counterside, I hope this game EOS and they go bankruptI don't get it...
>>570928501t. seething because CZN mogs bsideslop to death
>>570929032he overplayed his hand and had to back pedal>570929072and is now samefagging
>>570929145You're a fucking retardI don't play SMILEGOOK games with malesIs counterside smilegook? Fucking idiot
>>570928449but you play Outerplane thougheverbeit
>>570929032>>570929145samefag
>>570929349>OuterplaneNever heard of that is it good?
>>570927703I am rolling for Ceres thoughbeit
>>570929574No you're not
>>570927703Do we have a roadmap? When are the summer heroes anyways it’s already mid June.
>>570929792there is no roadmap, its just speculation based on datamined info
>>570929792bside is burning down from within and you want a fucking roadmap? stop being greedy and let them cook tourist
>>570930063nah they're actually making more money than ever
>>570930128source: your ass
Every time some bad counterside news comes out these threads turn to pure shitLiterally will be unusable until it finally bites the bullet (ironic) in August
Make Star Savior Great Again!
>>570932020relax /defeatedmale/
Did CS at least finish the story?I got baited by people shilling the game's admin as a badass protagonist just to get punched in the face by Yoomina being the real main character.
>>570930326my source is sensortower
>>570932153>Did CS at least finish the story?Nope, it ended on a cliffhanger
Is it best to start with standard gear crafting or necklace/rings when transitioning from T1 to T2?
>>570932512Standard. It's cheaper (so more T2 pieces overall) and you don't have to worry about getting the correct main stats on non-necklaces/rings since they're fixed
>>570926116I don't know about saving but I'm certainly jorking off to wedding and excited for the goon direction with outfit break. I miss torn outfit after chinks post-apocalypse gacha man.
>>570919189What is this? An uncensor or something?
Finished going over tens of thousands of files in the unpack and I could not find pic related anywhere, or any mention of Emily/Frey swimsuit alts.I really want to know where the fuck this image is from now.
>>570943296my guess is probably arca live leaks instead of ingame and luna's sexy ass being her summon art
I wonder who thought making the last stage of the event challenge 40-50k cp above most people's current teams was a good idea
>>570932153just to be clear, admin never got punched in the face by yoo mina. he and her were on good terms though vague even when he was hiding behind the gap robot, and after he revealed himself they both got along way more with her multiple times going to save his ass while he plays 4d chess with the bad guy....that said, admin did get (accidentally) kicked in the face by a 6 year old girl
I’m reading through the may bride thing right now, is it just me or are the writers still very last decade? Stuff like romcom harem and having the self insert constantly emasculated with little to no agency makes me wonder just how good these guys had it to still be nostalgic over such tropes. Is this the Korean male fantasy of today still or are the devs just boomers?
>>570949656homosexual confirmed in chat.let me be straight with you gaylonobody wants to be part of an irl catfight. too much drama. but just like how girls want to be fought over by hot guys, guys want to be fought over by hot anime girls. everyone wants to be valued enough that someone is willing to go to war for you, or to get you. it's just a trope that preys on that ideai was really surprised but wanted to see more of that carmen vs fei duel, considering she somehow beat the celestial arts
>>570951503Nigga stop projecting your closet homo, not one word in my post mentions jack shit about wanting realistic wamen, nor did I mention anything bad about girls fighting over (You). The fact that you somehow interpreted my post as such leaves more to be said about your faggotry than anything about me.
>>570949656>bunny maid event dancho>these are my personal bunny girls!!>wedding event dancho>uh y-you both win..?
>>570952572He must be related to Nikke’s SKK, all part of the faceless lineage where the flipflop gene is strong.
>>570952572>Appear strong when you are weak>Appear weak when you are strong
>>570949656Mostly the devs are boomer out of touch with internet discourse
>>570953729Sun Tzu who are you at war with?
>>570943296you would only see it if it was a CG. if it's an L2D, you'd basically see an exploded version of it and need to combine it with the animation file to see a proper version.it could also be that they removed it to brick the dataminers.
>>570941853All the unity assets in the game currently fully decrypted via gook magic
>>570952572>>570949656To be fair the girls in the wedding event are literally very aggressive at courting himDid you read wCarmen's Journey? And Epindel is obsessed with being our mate and cucking Asherah
Any guilds recruiting?
>>570959775It’s not about aversion to girls coming into him, but how he deals with it straight up copies virgin romcoms from the 00s despite being someone who has gone through so much more.This is not a dig at virgin romcoms, those are designed for silly sweet lovey dovey which is its own fun. My point is contention is the lack of forethought put into bridging the gap instead of having him as he is now flip flopping like other SKKs. A wiser move would be to have internal monologue having Danchou simulate which response to give only to realize he’s too stupid to come up with anything better which leads to him adopting the exact same response he gives here, but is now totally justified.
>>570960632guilds are in the OP. Hildfriends is alive, but I don't know about the rest since there's not quite enough shitflinging to tell.
Bullet status?
>>570964345He spent last night:> reading the Blind rumors> abusing the infinite currency glitch in CounterSide> looping AI songs with the lyrics "Make Star Savior Great Again"It's pretty over
>>570964505his mental state...deteriorating...
>>570960632I might make a new Guild in the next day or two unless someone else who's really dedicated wants the danchou spot more.Lucklets has no Guild Master so we can't recruit or trim the leavers. Better to fix it now than keep waiting.
>>570969313oh fuck I applied to lucklets the other day I will shoot for one of the other ones I guess
Am I nuts or does this goddamn deer just ignore turn order and action gauge
>>570963689>how he deals with it straight up copies virgin romcoms from the 00s despite being someone who has gone through so much moredude, white captain is the one doing events and main story. you know? the amnesia tard whose is vaguely remembering shit. most he's gone through was ep.5 and dealing with gille and her one woman assault on monastir.all the journey stuff is black captain who has gone through the cycle a ton of times and remembers shitthe most white captain has dealt with women was bunny girl events. he doesn't remember dealing with kyra's whole journey, or fei trying to sleep with him. white captain is literally a virgin romcom protag, otherwise just from main story content alone, asherah would have been dicked down by now, instead of being reaffirmed that regardless of cycle, she is still a cuck>lack of forethought put into bridging the gap instead of having him as he is now flip flopping like other SKKsblack captain is clearly shown to remember a lot of things (closing his eyes consciously, the arcana card choices) and has been through this journey shit even more than you farming parents. white captain is (as far as shown) some guy isekaied from some earth looking place to lavistar with no memory of the place but slowly gets traces of old cycles memory, has muscle memory of wielding a sword and as omega puts it, 'smells similar to dad(administrator)'. of course he's going to act like this instead of a professional looping teacher whose seen all, done all, just for some mystery overarching goal like black captainthought was put in but clearly not enough to give a full picture yet. you just forgot the two captain aren't just different designs but actually different memory wielding individualsyou moron
>>570974510illiterate bwo...the deer increases its speed and atk each time it takes a turn (2% if void initiate, 3% if void pioneer. both stack max of 10. so 20% or 30% max depending on what you're fighting)also if you're fighting the void pioneer, each time any of your girls attack it while having a debuff, it gets a 10% action gauge boost
>>570974510nah, you're misunderstanding the action gauge. it's a track where everyone on it is travelling at their own speed and the "turn order" is just when they arrive to 100%. e.g. you're getting giga lapped.tbf, it's confusing and it sucks and anyone who didn't play epic shit for years would be confused.
>>570977260Wait so, the action gauge is like "what spot of their own turn order every mf on the track is at the given time of the current actor's turn", so some motherfucker can go from 20% to 100% instantly.Oh my god, I get it now.Thanks anon.
>lummies>rank 32>scarcity>rank 61scarcity can never get a win
>>570978017nta but you can also go over 100% and whoever has the most is who gets the turn next.think of the gauge as a number, lets say 10,000if no one is at 10,000, you add your speed to your current bar, so if you have 100 speed and are 2000, you go to 2100, if no one is at 10,000, 2200, and so on so forthwhen someone gets to 10,000, whoever has the most takes a turn, so if you have exactly 10,000 and no one else has more, you take a turn.lets say you were at 9,900, and one your opponents were at 9,900, but they have 200 speed and you only have 100, so you both tick up, they are at 10,100, and you are at 10,000, but they have a unit who can push up the gauge by 3000, they use this ability and one of their units now is at 12,000, up from 9000, so even though you have 10,000 and got there first, the next unit who takes a turn is the highest, which is the 12k person
Naruhodo...
>>570984997I think this person is retarded and mistaking what is a sterotypical russian woman look (that specific style of hat, big fur clothing, long blonde hair, etc) for some very specific and what he sees as a unique design.this is the "man who has only ever seen 1 movie saying it gives boss baby vibes" type of post
>>570984997>Alicia is Omega from the future
>>570943296You the CounterSide Reader guy?If so did you find anything else of note in the text asset files or nah?
>>570984997>>570985496It's pretty obvious Lisa and Alicia are related somehow due to context and schizocrafting but I'd be irritability impressed if the plot twist was solely a lazy Leijiverse reference
>>570974767Fug did I mix them up? My bad no wonder it made no sense to me.
>>570981720Dude from the past 3 or so threads alone we can see lummies has 20+ active players while scarcity has like 9 on a good day? If we don’t crush them I’m leaving.
>>570988537Didn’t Tyria straight up call her out as Alicia? It’s an avatar or disguise.
But isn't Lisa way too much of a dumb dork to be Alicia? She's even pretty retarded with handling money, a problem that long lived witches wouldn't have. Also, look at the witch's lewd clothes in the pic. Witches are constantly wearing very lewd costumes with barely covered crotch areas to entice virgin Danchodes into becoming their favorite meat dildos, and Lisa can never reach the level of sexy that a Witch like Alicia had.So Lisa is NOT Alicia in any shape or form.
>>570995792Anon she doesn’t want Danchou to know she’s Alicia, most if not all the retardation is just her having fun and putting up an act. When you do journeys like Tyria or Rosaria it’s very obvious Lisa isn’t an honest and truthful persona.
>>570987762Not the guy you replied to, but I am reader guy.I spent a few hours looking at the de-compiled code, but it has obfuscation that the Counter:Side code doesn't. The old encryption is in there, but it doesn't seem to be what's used for the textAssets.I'm assuming that the Koreans that unpacked the assets probably looked at the code before they implemented obfuscation.
>>570995792>She's even pretty retarded with handling money, a problem that long lived witches wouldn't haveshe's bad with money because she knows that frugality means nothing when everything is gonna get reset anyway, so she just spends whenever she feels like it
>>570998760Where the hell did you come from nanoda, you’re making too much sense.
https://starsavior.com/en/news/019ed4a0-e8aa-73ec-a47f-5f568d31d204(also, apparently main is already done)
>>570995792>Lisa can never reach the level of sexy that a Witch like Alicia hadbro, your beach training town?
>>571002298She bails so fast I bet he forgot.
>>570998526I think the gook in bullet's chat was just a retard and we ran around in circles chasing a fake lead
the event music makes me think of the ryuko dance so i get hard...
Why are we still here when the devs already confirmed that they're working on a Counterside reboot?They've barely been able to keep Star Savior afloat and now split their focus and staff???This means all the rumors were true and the future is bleak.
>>571005976Just to suffer.
>>571006307
>>571005976I'm filling out the survey to tell Ryu how much I hate him.
>>571005976I already started to abandon ship personally. Can't keep supporting a company that has no confidence in their products, it's just cock and ball torture atp. It was fun while it lasted at least.
>>571005976I've been disregarding most of it as doomposts but with Counterside dead I'm asking a legit question: is Star Savior really struggling? ANd if so why? It has more effort to it than a lot of gacha
>>571000601Time for bside to prepare their anuses.
>>571007704Trying to bring Counterside back doesn't really say "no confidence" to me. I'll keep playing Star Savior for as long as I enjoy it just like I did with Counterside. The maintenance mode announcement was like 1 month after I quit actively playing so if I drop this it's probably over.
>>571007843>ANd if so why?Too many gameplay walls and extremely repetitive content.>>571009396>Trying to bring Counterside back doesn't really say "no confidence" to me.They had to kill it first to do that and very quickly too. Just a few months ago we had a collab with Counterside, remember? And in just that short time they went to announce maintenance mode and then actual eos. If Star Savior was doing well all of this cost cutting wouldn't be needed. They're even killing the irl Café in just 10 days!
star savior is not strugglingit's doing better than counterside ever did
>>571007843Doomposters will always say it's dead bro. As far as I know it has far better sales than Counterside at least.
>>571007843It's like a chocolate cake with glass in it. Alicia fucking up your hardmode skill is purely just to fuck with you.
>>571009824That was true in the first month since then player numbers have fallen to Counterside in its second year level.
That's not our Muriel
>>571009824It’s still doing better than Outerplane and that general has word from the publisher that it was a successful anni with no danger of EoS. So if this game pulls out while being ahead you guys know where the funds are going.
>>571010348Add wildly inconsistent character art and the inability to edit them to the list. It's not a big problem at first but when you think about it, it means there are no funds and/or skill to do so.
>>571010697Ez retcon: different timelines
>>571010857Which Muriel would you marry? Milk or Flat?
>>571010895Half and half
>Please share any thoughts or opinions you have from playing StarSavior. *hehehehehehehe
>>571010895Only children make choices, adults want them all.
What does cumming inside Lisa feel like?
Never played counterside but was it ever successful or mainstream? From what I've heard it's been struggling for quite awhile now so it's not really surprising that they finally pulled the plug. I don't like seeing games eos but at the end they are made by companies to make money.
Are focus and protection just complete dead weight stats? That seems like pretty bad design
>>571013605Focus provides accuracy for debuffs, protection is the counterpart. The stupid part isn’t them but the guaranteed 20% chance of failure.
>>571013883I know what they do, it just seems like they're too niche and conditional to ever get any use out of. I haven't unlocked hard mode yet so maybe I haven't seen enough of the game
>>571014228They're even bigger bricks in hard mode because you need all the ranks you can get and focus/protection training are absolute shit for gaining rank.
>>571007843>is Star Savior really strugglingnigga we didn't even break a million dollars last patch. They should really just try making a REAL game because gachaslop isn't making it anymore.
>>571015029Why does it need a million?
>>5710151523D games are expensive to maintain.
>>571015152The less money this game makes the less quality content we get, and we barely get any quality content considering our big half anniv was just another normal event story like every other one.
>>571015416>and we barely get any quality contentThe quality content was Bridal Carmen and Bridal Epindel, and they're not normal character releases given the clothing destruction, touching scenes and paid alt colours, and they're both very strong in terms of gameplay as well.
>>571007843We're making around 500-1million per month (allegedly) on mobile and we just got destructable clothing. That's more then enough to sustain a niche game like this, i play other games that make less that are doing fine
>>571016070What games?
>>571007843>ANd if so why? It has more effort to it than a lot of gachaIt's nearly impossible for any live service game to recover from a bungled launch and this game's original KR/JP launch was bungled badly. Global helped but then you also have to consider how fucking retarded the CEO is to have burnt all the company's goodwill in killing CS the moment SS' global launch was successful, when that game would have cost them pennies to continue development at the pace they had been going for the previous year.
>22mb patchI HATE VERIFYINGI HATE VERIFYING
>>571013012>Never played counterside but was it ever successful or mainstream?It was a huge game in Korea for years and was quite popular in Japan initially as well. Global interest was diminished by the staggered SEA launch followed by global later but it was still quite popular for being a 2D gacha at that time. The popularity just decreased over the years because of several severe development and PR fuck ups because Bside's management is incapable of not being retarded.
>>571016207Notably Aether Gazer
>>571015416Bro I’ve seen Honkai Star Rail and what they did with their Fate collab. Money means jack shit in guaranteeing quality.
>>571015230Really? How much does it take to maintain this guy’s level of quality? Cause he did it for free. https://youtu.be/TaqmUXzipyg?si=HWHDIkAkBJlSXGrG
I made sure to include the most important detail in my survey.
>>571015985>the quality content is limited banners that they want you to whale on and skins for you to pay forhow much of a literal cocksucking slurper are you?
>>571017569The best part is that clothing destruction is a simple "select all + delete" in blender, a matter of 3-5 minutes with minor floating vertices clean up. The underwear itself is painted on the model...Selling a color swap made in paint should be an insult in 2026 but is somehow celebrated.
>>571017569It's a gacha game. You put a quarter in the machine and it spits out a random toy. If the appeal isn't the toy then you have a problem.
>>571018365if you think rolling the banner in gacha games is the only reason to play them then you are legit mentally ill, seek professional help.
>>571019191He just stated the toy was the focus, not the machine.
>>571020291You also need professional help.
>>571019191>>571020432I'm not them and I'm lurking on this thread for a while. But don't try to kill yourself just because you're mentally retarded
>>570988537who tf is aliciaI thought lisa and ashera were the same person at first
>>571005976>>571015416Story chapter 5 had no 3DCG animated scenes like chapter 1-4 did.After I looked at the unpack I checked the video files on a whim and noticed this, so you can kind of tell they're already putting less effort in.
>>571005976it is the only gacha that can run on my potato notebook at work since it is unity engine
Is they kill off SS will bside fans even come back for their third game? That's twice they've been beaten, surely they'd pick up on the fact they're being abused by then?Though if every player is like Bullet I can see them coming back for more.
>>571022521retard
>>571022963Bro they probably don't actually play...
>>571022963>one cutscene>previous story arcs had severalkek dying game, it's practically already on maintenance mode
>>571023314Yep you called it.
>>571022963>Story chapter 03>chapter 112>chapter 23>Chapter 35>Chapter 44>Counterside event1>chapter 51Thanks for proving my point that this game is dying.
>>571024214So the game has been dying since the counterside event when it had one of the highest revenue since they have the same number of animated scenes?
So is this whole doomposting session just the CounterSide bros being salty about their EoS or something?
i mean, typically, doomposting would be a drop the ocean of thread activity...
>>571005976The Counterside reboot will take at least 4 years before it releases though so are you saying they will keep Star Savior alive until it happens just like how they kept Counterside alive until Star Savior released?
>>571024989I don't really get how people can be mad about that specifically when CS was absolutely dead the second they announced maintenance mode.
>Omega's event only lasts one weekSoon, Ceresbros. The wait is finally over
>>571026427Surely they have to tell us the next event tomorrow.
https://x.com/i/status/2067049589614739944HOLY SHIT ITS FUCKING DEADThe real question is how does this impact us? Do we get more dev resources now?
Do you get anything from grinding these or just some resources?
>>570908465Magia Record, the Madoka Magica gacha game with 2D chibi sprites, shut down after 7 years... to be immediately rebooted into Madoka Exedea, a game with 3D models.Lots of the same assets are carried over, lots of the the same characrers (minis the losers no one gives a shit about and aren't worth making 3D models of) and the plot is literally just a slightly sped up version of Magia Record.Its doing well. People were initially mad abour having to restart and rehash the same shit but the devs rode out the initial backlash and the game's still doing decent. Of course, there's a major difference though. Exedra is based off Madoka Magica. Magia Record was basically its own fucking universe with its own characters and story. The main Madoka story STOPPED DEAD FOR 7 YEARS while they focused on the gacha spin off, which alienated a lot of fans who just want Madoka Magica and not Magia Record shit. Part of the reason Exedra was able to weather the backlash was it also recalled the main Madoka story plus gave a ton of side stories. I don't have confidence Studio BSide can do the same thing since they lack the "bait" needed to calm people down.
>>570949656Just like BA's sensei, you have no human rights and exist to get raped
>>571027145just the resources you see there.
>>571028876Okay thanks, if there is no fomo shit like borders for whatever I am not bothering
Genuinely how the FUCK do you raise Harley?>skill and ult scale off speed>and no other stat>only SSR defender that can't give herself barrier>only way she tanks is with a 30% DEF buff on her ultI would have thought her focus on speed and her action gauge reduction effects means her job is more like a speed debuffer. Except she draws aggro as a defender but can't tank shit, so she often gets ganked immediately and contributes nothing. Like, how do I use her?
>>571030525>Like, how do I use her?You don't. Just use Annah
>>571030596But Harley is so deliciously flat
>>571030810If you’re using her for waifu reasons you just need to avoid stuff like BGCharlotte’s auto attack spam that discourages you from using her ultimate. You’re already taking her over meta, no reason to half ass it.
WAIT FUCK, HARLEY DROPPED FROM 0.5% OF VOTES TO 0.46% TO HER FINAL SCORE OF 0.35%AM I THE ONLY MOTHERFUCKER WHO LIKES THIS FLAT BITCH? I KNOW SHE'S LITERALLY BOTTOM TIER AND IS GETTING OUTPACED BY SRS NOW THAT BLOOMS ARE A THING, BUT COME ON!Jesus christ 30th place in a contest of 45. The bottom 35%. Fuck me, man. My only consolation is that Rosaria also has a small chest and is the overall winner
>>571031375Anon, she's cute but sucks as a unit.
Harley is only great in pvp sadly
>>571031919She does...... wht do my favourites tend to suck?>>571031959What, to feed bunny charlotte enough ignition so she can ult turn 1? If there's any other uses for her, I'm happy to hear them
>>571028112Why do Asian men love getting helplessly raped? I’m not even against it but because of your post I just realized I don’t see this anywhere near as much in western media, why is that? Why is it almost any Asian male in fiction can get femdommed by a gang of horny women but meanwhile the collective avengers might not even have 2 cases of their boys getting the same treatment? Is Tom Holland or RDR or Chris Evans not rapeable enough?
>>571031375She's cute but I strictly don't like women who are obsessed with big male animals, because well...sometimes you just know
>>571033193Maledom is boringIf any of us were alpha males we wouldn't be playing gacha
It's upBullet's new main gacha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzAKySawsg
>>571030525The esport team is you run her with clarissa and lugh to loop bosses, potentially could use w.epinel instead of lugh too. full speed of course
I haven't completed the last 3 challenges for the wedding event. Are any of the rewards worth it (since I can't see the last 2). And what is the secret? I have a powerful WCarmen.
>>571034038Not really, it's just resourcesYou need a powerful Bchar or wEpindel to clear them
>>571033193Rape is simply at the heart of doujin culture for some reason. Tentacles, fat balding middle aged men, goblins, hypnosis apps, instant loss, erotic trap dungeons, NTR, and so on and so forth.>but those are all girls being rapedYes. The difference here is that dancho can't be the rapist because that would require him singling out a girl. And fans would cry out "but I wanted to rape MY favourite!" So instead dancho must be the rapee instead of the rapist. You still get the rape porn Asians love so much without offending their waifu sensibilities
>>571034164>dancho can't be the rapist because that would require him singling out a girlskill issue
>>571034164Well when you put it like that, it does make sense.
>>571034363Perhaps you're thinking "why doesn't he rape them all?". And he could. But who does he rape FIRST is the issue>ha ha ha your waifu is so she she wasn't in the top 50% of rapes
>>571036230>tfw we were denied shitposting about rape priority rankings
>>571036454So who would be the last person dancho rapes? And is he saving the best for last or is she just the bottom of the barrel?
>>571037524If I had to guess it’d be between Asherah and Alicia, but for the second question, I honestly have no idea. The gap between black and white Danchou is so vast let alone if they pull some fusion bullshit and make Oreochou.
>The account I think belongs to the scarcity ERPer is no longer with themlollmao
>can't score this cosmo because I don't have Fei and Roberta invested inWhy did I fall for the Anna meme
>>571042594>doesn't have a free savior nor a relatively older savior already builtthe fuck have you been doing?
>>571033193i would rather deal with asian culture obsessed with men (aka you) being hunted and raped by strong hot women that for the most part actually like you, than the garbage cuck shit that is western culture. to be real with you, western culture prefers humiliating men, not raping them for mutual pleasure. you'd find BA ibuki raping you hot. captain marvel raping you...not really. all so in the west, rape is worse than like...anything to them (except calling somebody a slur.. that's worse somehow...bunch of bitchass niggers). and the people who need to be demonized most to them is men, so men are constantly portrayed as the rapists. but shit is softcore now. it's not like in the 90s and 2000s, where you could have shit like hollow man showing a pov rape scene near fully. nowadays its just some light touching but framed weirdly unless you go full r. even then, its pussy shit compared to old stuff. rape is a very serious subject to the west, unless it's done to males. then its played for laughs. its very weird when you have a whole serious property, and then a male being raped scene happens that is played for laughs. western examples i can think of is mark getting raped by anisa in invincible and uh, hughie in the boys also getting raped where the writer was even joking about it so if that loon can't take his own writing serious, why should i? for the current sensitive americans, rape portrayal is few and far between. even more with male victims since they pretend that never happens. it's mostly focused on males being emasculated and humiliated.>I just realized I don't see this anywhere near as much in western medianigga memoryholed thor love and thunder where thor was literally chained and stripped naked in front of a crowd, and the whole retarded female thor bullshit happened
>>571042758Building other saviors like the anniversary units and Clarissa/Anna. I also don't have Roberta because I started a week late
>>571042758To be fair they are very niche until the upcoming patch fixes them,Fei won't do well outside of PvP and shilled comso content until they fix the way combat power scales and stop it from being crit rate heavy. Last cosmo people had to find a loophole using Kyra stealth to get her to work properly.Roberta literally needs the boss to spam AoE or she does nothing, which this current boss just so happens to be tailored towards.Both use the crit dmg set so there's overlap on gearing too.Clarissa and wCarmen are great in any content and have a wider spread of usefulness so who wouldn't want to invest in them instead?
>>571042758I don't have either of them built too... Going to go from top100 to outside of 3%, it's over
Bullet bloomed BestaSeems there's a new cheese strat this comso that abuses her
>>571046271I aint blooming another SR just for some one time cheese strat
>>571046271pretty sure this cosmos strat is winning the 50/50 fei coinflips and putting fei+roberta in the middle
I'm starting to regret not mlbing Wedding Carmen.
>>571056330why didnt you?
How does this game handle event stories once the event passes? Any archive of sorts to watch them again?
>>571059110There's no archive for event stories. If you want to read the bride event, you have to do it right now before reset
can't wait for her alt/skin
Yay
>>571068301Why are these poses hotter when you lose than when you win
>I lost a 5% training with 3 Arcanasthis is some serious bullshit
should I use my normal sparks for duping arcanas in the store or save them for a potential update where they possibly add new saviors into the rotation?
Worth to get 3 of these to mlb the Arcana? I've only got a single copy.
>>571076354its a free one u can MLB from flash pointso not really worth it
>>571076538Oh. I wasn't paying attention to flashpoint lol. I was just spamming it.
>>571072772not sure.it's copied directly from Nikke, so I'm assuming they'll only update it if Nikke starts doing that.
hate this fat fucker, hope he doesnt show up again
>>571068482nigger
Can't wait for counterflop to finally die so this thread's seething passive aggressive metafaggots can finally fuck offGo spam your anger at bside in your own general
>>571084483he's not that bad
>>571055070>9.2kHow the fuckI only managed 8.6 using the meta team everyone at the top is usingCare to post your difficulty modifiers?
>Almost wipe while doing event story on autoWhat a bunch of jobbers
>>571084483I've been stuck on this very same faggot for a weekWaiting on 15% bonus because I'm just not able to outheal the 50% wall when he gets the CD reset right after using his ultimateI'm doing it without a proper counter element though, I see you're using Rosaria...Did it make a difference? I've been running bchar, dps waltz, wcarmen, haydee and it's completely fucked without the break to give me time to heal up. How did you even keep Rosaria alive without a second healer?
>>571090304>dont dps 4 armed fat dude to 50% and he uses his skill>doubles skill into ult for 3 AoEs super fastand theres jackshit you can do about it>>571091051I had to wait until bonus hit 12% but it was pretty much managing the correct breakpoints, rosaria+charlotte get 1-shot by bosses ult but being able to chip it down to 5/10% HP means my waltz/haydee can finish it>get boss to under 50% before it can use skill to avoid it going skill>skill>ult>able to break boss after it gets below 50% so you have a bunch of time to chunk its HP before it ults>rosaria+haydee always attacks boss, waltz+charlotte use their skill/ult on boss, basic on adds
>>571090521I never use waltz's ult or charlottes after boss gets broken so they get the full 25% attack buff from AX. their basics are also both level 10 with waltz at 94% crit rate and charlotte being pic related. Never have to worry about boss ever ulting thanks to clarissa and haydees tanky enough to just spam her basic
>>571090521>>571092237and for modifiers everything on except bonus speed on boss
What's the current meta PVE team? I've been using Emily + W.Carmen front. Waltz+Bunny Char rear.
>>571096929thats pretty much it, though i've seen bullet+annah gook mains run annah with attack set instead of emily/haydee
>>570919189Any chance of a reupload for this? Seems like the download link is down.
Btw did the file change this patch? Any idea what the pact in 6 days will be about? I'm betting on a character of Besta faction or the big hat character which I forgot the name of
>>571033204Despite the name I always thought Dave was a chick because of the cute eyes and long eyelashes
>>571031375The popularity poll was essentially a tier list.
>>570906752I'm interested in your game. Who is the resident braphog? Every gacha has one.
I'll miss Counter:Side bros... I loved the pvp and consistently reached challenger despite being f2p.
>>571116038There were some really cool kits in pvp.
>>571116194Yeah. I'm not really feeling star savior especially because umamusume trackblazer burnt me out hard on these training rng gameplay. I'm still only on baby bitch easy mode journey because I can't be assed to play the other difficulties.
>looking at what buffs stellar bloom actually gives out>Annah gets a barrier on her heal skill>Besta gets a barrier if she's attacked at max star stacks, gives a barrier to the most hurt ally on her skill, and gives herself barrier on ultHARLEY IS LITERALLY THE ONLY DEFENDER WITHOUT BARRIER, WHAT THE FUCK
>>571120565Unironically Harley would be fine if they reclassed her as a supporter. But since she doesn't have barrier, she can't tank for shit. Unironically what were the devs thinking? She doesn't even have evade like Fei so its not like she's a dodge tank
>>571115321That's a delicate topic ITT sorry..
How do discounts for Journey potentials work? Say I get the 18% crit chance one, if I leave it alone will I have a chance at getting a discount for it? Or does the discount only apply when acquiring it?
>>571129073No discounts for the "unique" potentials (e.g. the ones you only get from arcana).You usually get discounts from:- Journey events (including some arcana events). See https://star-savior-arcana-db.pages.dev/- A parent that has the skill blessing on their Stellar Archive (rng on whether this procs)- The special hunts that also give equipment for the Journey Hard skill.
>>571115101In that case why wasn't waltz ash on the top?
>>571129430Thanks, by the way if my run in journey hard is screwed (like I somehow got BX+hit on Asherah W never taking +hit gear ever) is there a point to still running the journey or is it better to stop and end the run right then and there?
>>571126360N-no... Say it ain't so...
>>571129758eh. that's right to the end, isn't it? i guess you could spend your potential points and roll the dice on getting a good parent Stellar Archive.I'd only do that if you're far enough ahead in rank to skip the last fight tho.
>>571129887But like say I quit a journey just 2 fights in, do I get the same rewards as a finished fight? How does it compare if not?
I wonder when they'll add cosmic corridor.
I need a cute Petra wife
>>571137257Another character that needs a buff. Launch day SSRs are the new SRs.
>>571132114No idea, bro. I haven't aborted a run since I was getting walled with Lugh.>>571137257Petra has S tier animations; it's crazy that she isn't meta.
https://www.starsavior.com/en/news/019ede8c-d11e-753e-8bda-ce424dc15dfd>Bell and Carnelia threesome!Bell and Carnelia threesome!>Bell and Carnelia threesome!Bell and Carnelia threesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2oW_768kSA
[Dev Notes][StarSavior] June 19 Dev Noteshttps://starsavior.com/en/news/019ede8c-d11e-753e-8bda-ce424dc15dfd
>>571092237Maybe I need more EH on my Clarissa because the boss ults around ~8 turns left and 1 shots my entire team due to max HP reduction stacksI have an easier time using lvl 1 speed + removing 10% dmg reduc on my saviors, because at least then he ults early when my team can survive it
SUMMER LUNA
>>571129632She fell off since she was useless on the bride boss
wow. i'm glad i sent in feedback calling them retards two weeks ago.
So our banner schedule is:>Carnelia>Ceres>sLuna>sSmile>Cristelle
>Carnelia is Chaos great another cosmic before summer altsThey're also making her sound like she's going to powercreep Rosaria on single target which fills a niche we badly need right now
>>571137257Damn that fox bitch was literally PISSing everywhere last event, can she not control herself? Apparently real kife foxes are notoriously smelly because they piss everywhere to mark their territory and themselves. I'm not even kidding, foxes have unique piss compounds they use to identify each other. The unique stench of an individual's piss stained fur is how they tell who's who
NAKED APRON SKINS CONFIRMEDHOLY FUARK
>>571138735...wait, it has to be, right?
>>571138735>octoberGuess they're getting the halloween event. I was really hoping for Muriel and Elisa for that.
>>571138248>>571138362>>571138608>>571138735>ISREALHOLY FUARKKK
>>571138505Kyra spooks me a lot so I hope her buffs are earth shattering.
>gear loadouts delayed till July>Combat power recalculation delayed till late July/August
>>571138735LETS FUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OH NO NO NO NOCOUNTERSIDE BROSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>all counterside collab characters removed from future polls
Don't Look
>>571138505>Harley, Kyra and B.Scarlet getting buffedWait, that's not on my bingo list wtf bside
>>571139458what a fucking whore
>>571139370YOU WILL VOTE FOR ZE STAR SAVIOR CHARACTERS AND YOU WILL FORGET COUNTERSIDE EVER EXISTED!
>>571139464Epindel, Smile, Trish and Seira too.
>>571139370Good riddance CS niggers should get the rope
>>571139458I guess this explains where anon found that CG
>>571139458Hey, that's my wife!
>>571139370BSide really telling the CuckingSlops to go die
>>571139370Surprised they didn't also ban OmegaGooks are going to be furious
>>571139458I want to sniff her armpits
>>571139370I mean it had to be doneCounterside players are so mad that they'll bomb every poll with their characters until this game EOS
>>571139646thats not where it came from
>>571139537>SmileI'm SMILING YES
Savior bros....are we back?We finally get a roadmap and it looks kino...
>>571139458>Summer LunaNasty backbreaking sex with this plapwhore
>Luna banner in late July>new Luna Arcana>then Luna swimsuit banner and Luna swimsuit Arcana in AugustLUNACHADS...WE'RE EATIN GOOD
>>571138619Gonna MLB her on day one. About time we get sexy onee-san characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTvn87JTAro
>Cosmic right after I blew everything on MLB Carmen and Epindelgrrrrr
>>571138505Finally, Harley might becomes actually useable.
>>571140245You really should've seen it coming. The only surprise is that it wasn't Ceres (who ended up becoming moon for some reason).
DOOMPOSTERS BTFO LMAO
>>571140793>Counterside cucks BTFO*FTFY
i hope carnelia and ceres are skippable...
>>571141119Ceres will be, her Arcana is already in game and she is a crowd controller, probably a PvP unit since bosses will be immuneCarnelia will be OP because they'll make you spend right after the half anni burnout for the strongest chaos DPS
if I burn all my stash and don't get Carnellia im quitting this kusogeCarmen cucked my savings
>Carnelia has silence in her kit>Has pierce and true damageI'm calling it now
>>571141256She's getting a new card.
if you guys read the patchnotes, Carnelia has immortality in her kit, meaning she's already fated to be good in pvp
What are the chances Harley will get preemptive guard like Hilde?
>battle pass arcanas removed and now comes with limited cosmeticswell fuck...I now have to buy it
>>571141471>PGProbably never. I don't want to see that gay shit near my wife
>>571140793Gooks in Bullet's chat are pissed about the battle pass update, no moon garden and Counterside characters left out of pollsThey're also doomposting that the leader of SS's development was moved to CS2 after the half anni
Gonna exchange for 1 copy of Carnelia and save my stocks for Summer Luna.
>>571141709Gooks and Counterside doomcucks are getting insufferable bros...
>>571141774Based and same. Hopefully she'll not be dupe heavy like waltz.
>>571141774Carnelia being cosmic might mean summer Luna isn'tThey tend to have reasonably long gaps between cosmic rate ups
>>571141910she's gonna be order still since we haven't had one in a while
>If you’re looking for a Savior capable of quickly taking control of the battlefield and turning the tide against multiple enemies, you may want to keep an eye on her.Fuck, man. She's going to get the Lyn treatment, isn't she?
>bullet already back to reading bside hate threads on arca while listening to AI slop counterside/star savior musicyou love to see it
>>571142661defeated male remains defeated
>>571141774This is the most efficient right? I’m new but according to what I’ve read from here Cosmic is like the festival dark/light usual and has half rates correct? Whereas limited still has the same rates as usual?
>>571139458GUH
>849 strength after FloraAnother doomed run...
>>571142769Cosmics have similar rates to the Pilgrims or Overspec units from Nikke which are all half rates. Hopefully, you'll have enough exchange pts saved up.
>>571143460Is it 200 for one copy?
>spend 40 minutes doing a journey for nothing>bad blessings>somehow has my highest score of any journeyThis is some kind of humiliation ritual...
>bullet looking at the PvP for Summer Smile and Luna>apparently has never seen leakslmao
>>571143980weirdly, i've never seen them talk about leaks on Arca. I guess the devs are there to police it.
>>571144109>meanwhile some random anon drops leaks and game files just to prove that a gook is wronglmao
>>571143631Yes
>>571141471Very bad unless they overhaul Harley's kit to give her barrier on everything. Its clear they want Harley to be a speed fucker-arounder.>Basic attack reduces enemy action gauge by 15% if bursting>skill reduces enemy action gauge by 25%>ult gives the party 20% speed boostCombined, she's like a speed debuffer that's supposed to help your party steal more turns by denying enemy turns. She is pretty much incapable of actual tanking, unironically she should have been a Supporter instead. The laziest/easiest way to buff her would be to copy paste what they did with Besta's stellar bloom and just slap "and it gives you barrier" on her kit so she doesn't die by turn 3. But they probably need to either give Harley HP/DEF scaling or increase her speed scaling. Yes, Harley is the only tank who doesn't have a barrier AND the only tank that doesn't scale off HP. She scales off speed, which is hard to raise and its why she barely does any damage even compared to other defenders.Personally I think they need to go harder on the delaying enemy turn thing. Slap it onto her ult as well so she can delay all enemy turns (like a reverse of Waltz pushing everyone's turns up) and add an extra 10% action gauge reduction as a minimum. It looks like she "tanks" by slowing enemies down so they don't attack her as often. But she's not slowing them down fast enough for it to really matter (unless you're doing a speed meme) so it makes her RIDICULOUSLY niche
>For the Combat Power calculation formula, we are reviewing the calculation structure so that recommended stats for each Savior and their actual combat effectiveness can be reflected more reasonably.JUST REMOVE THE COMBAT POWER PENALTY YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>>571139458>tfw Savior Luna gets a swimsuit before Outer Luna
We rollan?
>>571144743They won’t it’s a money maker as proven by Nikke and shit like Clash ya know those generic trash mobile games that have ads bragging about combat power levels.
>>571144963goddamn, we need to complain about how the tits should be as big as the 2d art.
>>571140245>>571141910They haven't said if Carnelia is cosmic or not
>>571145189She's Chaos so she's cosmic by default
>>571145189???
>>571145189>Carnelia is a Chaos Attribute Caster-class Savior>ChaosYea she is, its over
>>571145189Read nigger
>>571145487Total Lacy death.
>>571145189Are you the same guy who said the wedding alts could be cosmic because "cosmic isn't an element"?
>>571145926no, the retard said that not only was the destruction locked behind MLB, but that the costumes had different lingerie when broken, and lied saying it was only in the KR broadcast, not realizing the broadcast was the same for everyone.This anon just doesn't know how to read
>>571138735Aren't these more likely to be alts rather than skins? Would be weird to launch skins for characters that aren't on banner, and re-running Ceres that soon doesn't seem likely.This is how I cope with Ceres likely to be mid
>>571146112I hope they aren't halloween alts because it would be too soon for a Ceres rerun as you saidAnd Lydia would be cosmic
>>571145926No I just failed to connect the dots>>571146084Now this is schizoposting
What SRs are worth using, if any? How much of an impact does blooming give? Literally the only SR I see people talk about at ALL is Clarissa so I assume she's the only decent one? But is she merely the best out of shit or is she actually good?
>>571146112Some of our CSbros are probably still used to costumes being skins rather than alts.
>>571146112I mean Haydee got a skin randomly, so why not? People are saying Ceres might be PVP focused so why not give her a lewd PVP skin?
>>571146239Alts are always better anyways unless the base model has such a high tier of seggs animation it’s hard to imagine doing better.But there is no such thing in the current Star Savior, otherwise the game would already be getting warned by the playstores.
>>571146084>he's still fuming over my "arca said you need max stellar sigils to see the dress break" shitpost a month laterOne of the best baits I've done if i do say so myself, especially since it's so absurd and easily disproved yet people like you chimped out over it and have seethed ever since.
>>571146225>What SRs are worth using, if any?After upgrading they all range from good to niche except for Naru who got shafted.>How much of an impact does blooming give?Not a single SR is worth using at all without being upgraded.>Literally the only SR I see people talk about at ALL is Clarissa so I assume she's the only decent one? But is she merely the best out of shit or is she actually good?She's the best especially since green lacks good damage dealers otherwise so most people gunned for her as their first bloom and because of how limited the currency is people are only just going to be getting their third bloomed character over the next few days.
>attention whoring at first mention
>>571146208>And Lydia would be cosmicAlts aren't necessarily the same element, see Asherah
>>571146225Clarissa > Anna > Vera, all 3 are good but Clarissa stands out the mostBesta is okay in PvPThe two maids are mid and the only one anon bloomed the bunny and said she is OP, but we don't have enough data to know
>571146443>damage controlStill mad for over a month
>>571146225Clarissa is outrageously good. Mine doesn't even do any damage, but between the slow and the pushback, she basically halves the turns the boss can take. It's mega retarded.
>Carnelia already next patchGillesbros... Hold for anniversary...
What should I put in the survey bwos?
>>5711495813d models match 2d proportions.
>>571149581Make the 3D models match the 2D art.
>>571149581More skins + BP skin, make the 3D model look like their 2D art counterpart.I don't know what else, I only forgot the later on my survey, hope other anons also did
>>571149649>>571149656Did you guys forget too? It was important but I completely forgot about it like a retard
>>571149649>>571149656>>571149719While those are good suggestions, I'm looking more towards an endless game mode where you aren't being timegated by CP or daily entries. Beyond that, maybe adding Guild Wars and Free Gearless PVP mode where casuals can fight with randos.
>>571149581Idk, a dorm feature maybe?
>>571139458>>571144963STOP WHORING AROUND AND FINISH MOON GARDEN
>>571138248>>571120565>Harley balance patch soonHarleybro we won!
>>571141818They've been angry at SS since their launch and it never stopped. Even JP's googleplay ratings have improved SS.
>>571149581Allow the broken forms of bride Carmen/Epindel and all other future broken forms to be viewed in the model viewer.
>>571151798This and let us move the camera when looking at savior expressions.In fact, let's have free camera in battle.
>>5711383131 thing that might be tripping you up is the 3 turn 'boss is immune to debuffs' also applys to clarissa's action down off her passive and skill/ult, if your able to break boss after its skill speed ran out its relatively easy for clarissa to stretch her pushing boss back by alot
Any suggestions to break the 10k wall on ATK Anna tank?I recall someone saying using the bunny scarlet arcana for talent of ATK or maybe I'm misremembering
>>571152195Okay I didn't realize this, I guess I'll stop bursting her skill before thenStill I think my biggest issue is i still run crit rate set and most at the top are using crit dmg with godlike substats
Should I be posting my answers to the survey in AI translated gook for more visibility?
>>571151193MIRACLES DO EXIST! THE POSSIBILITIES EXTEND OUTWARDS LIKE THE PURE, FLAT EXPANSE OF HARLEY'S CHEST! NOT A SINGLE HILL IN SIGHT, ONLY THE ENDLESS HORIZON!
>>571153557Nah. Global probably amounts to most of their revenue by now and it's very much hated in KR.
>>571153557gook are second class citizen, they chimped out to hard, Japs and Global and maybe CN (Don't know how popular it is beyond the wall) is what matter
>mfw Ceres is a pvp unit
>>571155547>>571155765This seems to be a common trend. Does KR only like grindfests or something?
>>571156956Kr throw a tantrum over the most insane shit, The fucking Majong collab for Blue ArchiveCZN Owen their translation was different and he 'humiliated' gooks in their native languageSkin.those are the two that comes to mind I'm sure if you dig Namu wiki you'll find a gazillion more. However when it's about real complain like global being riled up against Nikke writers and such, radio silence, they literally are a mindbroken people that wants to be humiliated but not too blatantly
>>571157378I meant some skins being too lewd or not lewd enough in various kusoge for the third point.Basically they are really hard to satisfy, where you throw a few skin and fanservice and global, japs and chinks are generally happy
>>571156956According to the Koreans, feminists are infiltrating their games and ruining them>that sounds fucking retardedYeah but we say that Sweet Baby and Anita and leftist cuck yaddda yadda are infiltrating our games and ruining them too. So honestly I'm inclined to believe them and we just can't see it because its all in Korean. It just gets downplayed and we can't tell
>>571158484>According to the Koreans, feminists are infiltrating their games and ruining themThis happened to CZN
>more powercreep cosmic banners and still not fixing the game or giving us meaningful content>even more powercreep arcanas for you to roll lol
>>571139370This pissed the gooks off...
Bullet Status?Counterside Status?
>>571161164TransitionedWas/were
>>571152576probably is just a case of needing better gear, even though im using speed set instead of destruction/insight I've got double crit stats thanks to it being the 1 I used to use for bell. And since for clarissa you dont need to care about vitality/endurance and she can steamroll hard journey fights you can try to split between STR and focus since besides slightly buffing her EHR you get waaaaaay more potential points.
>>571161468Yeah your stats are better than mine, I also use the speed set.Drives me nuts that after 10 Journeys the insight talent won't fucking appear from my parents, else it'd be at crit capWe have around the same effect hit though.
>>571149581>>571144743
>>571153806What about her nipples?
>>571149581I put:>loosen the Journey RNG on parent stat RNG, hardmode items and parent skill gifting (Reobserve blessing is garbage)>allow us to farm materials in the deep mining mode so we have shit to do, give us unique cosmetics for playing underused or specific saviors>give more arcana lending slots since players swap theirs out on a whim and the game has little to no communication features>showcase moon garden or give a preview>wCarmen and wEpindel broken forms in model viewer>give a target dummy mode so we can test compositions>fix the ranking system, being #1 to clear operation 28 for examples should give waaay more progress toward "be first to clear 100 times", compared to people autoing ezmode sun/moon/star corridors daily>fix 3DCG art to be more like the 2D CGs (Luna and Asherah breasts)>more skins from challenging PvE content or BP, even ones just changing hair styles are welcome>remove 20% baseline effect res bullshit>remove the gay popups from when you finish a sector or beat a floor, they're annoying and make me less included to spend>more free star link slots>remove duration:1 hour tag from resource boxes>lower focus crafting costs because it doesn't fix the RNG anyway because of the upgraded stats/base amount rng>retry boost is a bandaid fix to the bigger problem: remove the fucking CP penalty and just let us play>more costume destruction>resync the extra moment lip syncing to Jap audio if it's used>wedding girl's extra moments in the black dress variant if you purchased it>make wCarmen's Arcana supporter and not just hers only>change wCarmen highest ATK meme to whoever is next to her (like the groom would be at a wedding) so it opens up more team compositions and alleviates the awkward team building and reliance on "DPS tanks">make select observation banner permanent but resets monthly>change 200+ leveling to 33%-33%-33% instead of whatever it is right now (operation report heavy)>soft pity
Clarissa’s action down on ultimate requires a crit, and you need enough effect hit to reliably action down on neutral. This is the stat spread you want
>>571161468How do you guys build her in journey? Like what journey gear?
>>571163928>humble bragNot even leviathan whales have stats that goodAlso everyone uses her with bell's arcana and 75% CR
>>571163928You're a literal retard, bells arcana stacks up to 25% CR so your CR should be 75%. also you should have 200+ speed on clarissa or you aren't looping shit, in fact top clarissas are usually around 220+ speed.
>>571163928>176 speed only>100% CRNGMI
>>571164000I usually always try to get +12 speed item since it stacks with her passive if it procs making it easier for her to constantly push the enemy boss back repeatedly, then either crit rate or crit damage. pic relateds the one im using since bells arcana gives you a extra 25% crit rate, 2nd cosmos boss usually hitting 3 times with her basic before I start using her skill/ult. And since I only care about STR+focus since she can breeze the hard fights in journey even underlevelled you can dump alot into focus to get more potential points to spend at the end
>>571162707Inverted
>>571164557>level 45 petraI should borrow a lvl 50 ver, I don't want to brick mine and i keep it at 34, but for Clarissa specifically maxxing it seems worth it for the focus gain
>>571164557Is Lacy and Charlotte better than Tyria and Lyn for Clarissa?
>>571164751What’s so good about level 34? Mine is level 50 mlb did I fuck it up? I just dumped when I saw an arcana that’s top tier and something I actually own come up.
>>571165001No though it depends if you have them or notI prefer to use at least one of the old ones since the stamina gains are better, and I find Lyn's never procs at the right time to get the +2 moodMore dupes always wins out, though I think lvl 40 of Tyria and Lyn beats level 50 Char/Lacy>>571165149IIRC that specific arcana and 2 others makes focus hyper training appear more often at 35, eating up STR hyper training proc chance or somethingThe gooks theorycrafted it
>>571165001They aren't better for anyone, Lyn and Tyria have much better events, you should always rent one.
>>571165427Wait so am I fucked then now that my Petra is level 50?
>>571164751I levelled it up since I did kinda need the effect hit rate to proc for characters like rosaria or lugh, dont regret it but keeping it at 34 for DPS who dont need EHR is still good>>571165001I'd probably say tyria+lynn are slightly stronger but I didnt roll for tyrias and im usually focusing most of my training on STR+focus so getting +stamina from lacy+charlotte is really comfy for spending less turns on resting and I usually use the friend loan system to get a 45+ bunny frey arcana since I feel like its better to have 2 50 STR arcanas than 1 50 and 1 35 STR 1
>>571165641Yeah though you can probably borrow a 34 one, it's not a big dealOnce they make a DEF or STR crit rate arcana petra will be powercrept anyway, and you can keep her a niche one for focus characters
>>571165641>>57116603550 petra is better than 34 just from stat gain alone
>>571166339Not if the character doesn't need focus
>>571166339I trust the gook theorycrafter more
>>571055070bit more tinkering, trying to max waltz's crit stats more as well as saving counterside ship until boss recovers from first stun and managed to kill it
>>571168886Can you post your waltz's stats in the post fight graph, if you took a pic of it?I want to see if it's worth using her over MLB wEpindel since healing isn't really needed with Haydee when you keep pushing his AOE back
>>571169403did another run, my epindels not MLB and although I think her damage is nice you only have 50 turns and bunny charlotte+epindel taking extra turns with their skills can bite a bit
>>571166790its always been a minmax stop gap you retard, if you have max dupes then you must max it to level 50 because the dupe and level gains outweight resonance training accidentally hitting the wrong training. And even so, right now there are a lot of new Saviors you really want to have higher Effect Hit on so consider it a bonus.
Since next banner is cosmic. That means she's 1% pull rate right? Should I just save my pulls and use my mileage? I've got 700 saved up so it only makes sense right?
>>571175096its pretty much the best time to use sparks since its harder to get than non-cosmic characters
>>571171014Now that I think about it Asherah is probably better since she counters his elementKind of grim that even with 60% dmg buff wEpindel still falls behind
Should I spark for Bride Epindel's Arcana?
>>571138362>>571139458>>571144963billions were lost
>arcana box getting removed from battle pass>added to flash point>stats being buffed on themwait weren't they (basically) identical versions of existing arcanas? if they buff them, then wont they be strictly better?
>>571144963I'm rolling for Ceres to MLB. Then we'll see. If I'm in a good spot, I'll roll for Summer Luna since we know the event after her is a hag.
>>571183180ummm yeah?
>You can craft affection giftThe more you know...
>>571153557I've been sending in bugs to customer service, and the turnaround for gook is like 3 days instead of a week and a half.>>571178257It's going into standard, so I'm just gonna pray.
>>571178257How many sparks do you have? You'll need to keep at least 1 for Carnelia.
>spam friend request refreshes>Rosaria and Asherah cards as far as the eye can seeMan I really should've rolled Tyria's card.
>>571198142just search the chaos gate rankers
We still doing that card share pastebin? I just mlb'd my bFrey 81200059220.
>>571162707Can't see them when I'm sucking on them, sonher chest is still flat looking to me
I'm not saying that Annah is necessarily better than Emily, but she makes W.Carmen so much more effective. Pic very related
>>571211710So what's the deal, do this team comp just pump out heal Ad Nauseam? Because apart from Clarissa I don't see how you deal any damage
>>571198142I've had it up for a while now since almost nobody else seems to be lending her out: 81400781611Also got both Charlottes, Emily, Dana, Petra, and Waltz all at 50 if the Anon on pastebin duty wants to throw me in there too.
>>571212095Clarissa pumps out a ton of damage relative to the enemy turns. Since Annah doesn't need to used Nova points at all, they can be used freely to either boost Clarissa's damage or W.Carmen's heals.With Clarissa's self advance, plus Annah's random advance on attack and counter, plus Carmen's advance on herself and Annah, the whole team attacks a lot more often than it otherwise would. Needless to say, this makes Waltz do an absurd amount of follow ups
>>571212207ty bro I just sent a request
>>571193756Close to 800
>>571217703Well if you're sure there's nothing else you wanna save them for you might as well I guess.
One day I'll get a run without the Flora Special™...
>wCarmen>bChar>Emily>wAsherah>Rosaria>LacyThis is 90% of the characters I see in PvP
This shit seriously makes me not want to play journeys at all. I spend 40 minutes on solved content and this is all I get for it.
>>571222191The story of Journeys is nice but needing to repeat it over and over for gameplay reasons is extremely time consuming.
>>571220887Just buy the fan dummy
What are guild activity certificates for? Just for donating?
>>571222191what was the brick moment? did alicia give you the wrong skill?>>571223572yeah, just donating. if guild certs had another use, people probably wouldn't donate.
>>571222191devs bricked this game from the get go by including journeys as a progression mechanicyou cant copy epic shit pvp gearing and then add uma grind and shitty nikke sync into the mix
Is there a guide on what hard mode Alicia skills to gun for with each character? I've been winging it this whole time and I've definitely made 2 or 3 wrong choices
>>571224889bullet's sheet has them for almost every character ("AX5"), but it's almost always just going to be AX5 (atk crit) or BX2 (hp hp).
>>571225151...thats kinda sad. I was hoping there would be more to it than "make damage number bigger" but oh well
>>571223402I did buy the fan so naturally the fan event didn't happen.>>571223669There wasn't one major brick moment; my strength cards just didn't want to give me super training in general but especially at Flora. I also got the wrong skill from Alicia but there was basically no chance to get the right one since I didn't get to pick the right item either.
>>571223809Journey can work as a progression mechanic but it needs to not randomly waste your time to give no progress.
Is Seira or Lacy a better choice?
>>571227034If your dick can't choose wait til next patch when Seira gets buffed.
>>571227140My dick is leaning towards Lacy but I already have Rosaria
>>571227225Well if it was me I'd want to be a bit more enthusiastic than 'leaning' so I'd wait and see the buffs before deciding.
>>571223809>>571226760Someone said this about Stella Sora and the same issue applies here; roguelike games are fun because you're trying to get to the end and the randomness adds value to the journey that makes getting to the end a challenge that you always need to respond to to overcome. These games completely fuck it up by having the randomness apply to the reward you get from completing the game mode, which not only takes agency away from the player, but turns the act of completing the game mode into a feeling of disappointment when the random result is poor. It completely flips the reward outcome on its head and fosters resentment instead because they've mixed up the design of the obstacle and the goal.
>>571227034seira is slated to get buffs in like 2-3 weeks (we will probably find out what they are prior tho)so maybe wait until we see them before you pick
>>571232956>2-3 weeksAhem>First, we’re planning a round of Savior balance adjustments in the final week of June.This week actually.
This feels oddly familiar.
>>571233128oh I thought it was july 6th for herwas like 2 groups and I thought the first was getting shown this week (idk if its rolled out?) and then a few weeks later the next group
>>571233997>irl, women that are demanding are annoying>in fiction, that just means they're helpless and in dire need of correctionthe superiority of 2d all day everyday
>trying to do attack Annah journey>get no strength super training>doing a bCharlotte run to grab FX so her attack is lower>skip multiple 300+% strength training chances because it would overcapHaha...
>>571232809Sure but Star Davior is VERY clearly based off Uma Musume's formula. Uma has this same issue but is widely successful. People complain about getting shit parents or sparks, or not getting the right skills or trainings, yadda yadda yadda. But people still play the shit out of that game, and have done for years.Like honestly SS has a lot of QoL that Uma global currently doesn't like a proper run skip mode nor is it nearly as RNG dependent (I've never had an arcana just not give me events so I never get a skill for example).I feel like a lot of these issues can peobably be addressed with a second journey mode that makes things more consistent. They just need to make sure it doesn't end up being like MANT/Trackblazer where a run takes 2x or 3x as long even if it does smooth out a lot of consistency issues.
>>571236938>Sure but Star Davior is VERY clearly based off Uma Musume's formula.Yeah and it sucks there too. I dropped the game because of how tedious and shitty everything is there, if SS didn't have much better QoL I would've dropped it too.>Uma has this same issue but is widely successful. It's a game that came out years ago, has hundreds of times the development budget and thousands of times the marketing budget, and it's tied to horse racing which is already a massive industry in Japan. The circumstances aren't comparable at all.
>>571232809>It completely flips the reward outcome on its head and fosters resentment instead because they've mixed up the design of the obstacle and the goal.It's funny how CZN actually said this verbatim in one of their patch notes, while games like AK and even HSR never made this mistake in the first place (likely, by accident since "everything is roguelike" seems to be downstream of them?)>>571236938I'm not super familiar with Uma, but I feel like part of the issue with SS is that it has the E7/Nikke/Uma systems combined and included all their shitty parts, so you're dealing with more vehicles for frustration in a session.
>>571239472Eh, I'm thinking it more from uma global where horse racing (and specifically Japanese horses only) doesn't have the same allure. I gotta be honest though, apart from the concerts I'm not really feeling that much of a budget difference between the two games. Maybe I'm just fucking crazy but its not as if uma musume has amazing graphics or anything, I really think its just winning lives that suck up money since you need every song to be sung by multiple characters in different variations depending on who is the center/lead and who are the supports. In terms of the actual game though, I'm not really feeling the budget?
>>571227034Is your dick isn’t picking Lacy you have no need for her given Carnelia will replace her.
>>571232809It doesn't help that there's essentially no way to play around the randomness. You don't get an unexpected result and then have to run with it and find a way to make it work. You either get a good result and things continue the way you were hoping or you get a bad result and it kills your run.
>>571222156To be fair those also happen to be most of the hottest girls in the game.
They didn't wanted you to notice this frame in the new PV
>>571241859>don’t become an immortal titty monster and stay a flat chested rotting mortal my dear imouto
>>571242935>Carnelian was a true hero all alongWhat a twist!
>>571242935Okay listen, Bell is very clearly a medium is premium kinda girl.
>>571241859The esl gooks are trying their best!
Rate this ArcaGuy's feedback:1. Fix the Journey stories that don't cover the Savior's backstory2. Add another body type for sexy+slender3. Improve breast physics4. Less effort into Lobbies, more into battle animations5. Less isolated event stories, more serious stories6. Stop writing stories around costumesI think #1, 3, and 5 are winners, but the most realistic one is improved breast physics since that's a money maker.>>571241859We never had a chance against ESLgods
>>571244176Strange that he's using bunnies as his example for #5 when the bunny maid event started for a serious, story related reason (Bell investigating Carnelia) and introduced a likely future story relevant character in Hubble with some buildup about the Star Savior's power.
>>571241859>>571244136Try not to notice that the dev notes all referred to a character called "Vesta"
>>571244176>reference Nikke to improve the story
>>571244117Nah she's a small is sublime specimen. >>571244176>1 That's fine but you don't need everything explained. Future alts or Arcana stories can reveal these sorts of things as well. >2They should try to match every girl with a more accurate 3D model for things like Journey training outfits. >3 The breast physics are already good. >4 This is just wrong. The combat animations are already exceptional. They should keep up the good work and continue improving the value proposition of extra moment scenes by adding more animations and ways to interact so it doesn't get boring after seeing it once. There's no way to increase the value proposition of attack animations besides adding characters that have more than 3 buttons. >5 and 6No. Star Savior already does the stupid serious melodrama main story anyway. I don't get it. There's infinite content out there for serious stories and instead you download a cute anime girl collector game and whine that it's not an HBO show at all times. It's pathetic.
>>571246596Nikke is a good example when referencing resources invested, though not always when it comes to results gained. Even so, they struck gold having a guy like Cosmograph shitting out BGM like crazy and even collabing with Sawano when they really need big bangers to hook people in.There’s no doubt Nikke has hit the top of the benchmark when it comes to a game company adding icing in the cake so to speak. Whether the cake itself is any good is a whole different matter and tends to flip flop as much as SKK’s dick does, but it doesn’t change the fact that Star Savior would improve by leaps and bounds if it had that level of resources pumped in for polish.But of course reality is money doesn’t grow on trees, and that guy’s point is irrelevant;
>>571249896SS is just fundamentally fucked because the journey stories by their nature cannot advance the plot yet they're obligated to keep churning out journey stories for every new character. The longer the game goes on the more dull and repetitive they'll get.
>>571247573>No. Star Savior already does the stupid serious melodrama main story anyway. I don't get it. There's infinite content out there for serious stories and instead you download a cute anime girl collector game and whine that it's not an HBO show at all times.Consider what you're defending. Do you really care about Star Savior's story? If they shat out another terrible patch (and they will), would you consider sticking around for the story?Even Blue Archive, the definitive cute anime girl collector, actually has a properly dramatic story. It's even the thing that people will bring up as one of the selling points.>It's pathetic.Says someone who wrote a wall of text on a chinese basketweaving forum. Come on.
>>571250114I think it would work better if we can visually see more reflection in battle of the savior’s growth. In Uma Musume this tends to be shown by having new shit trigger and then the Uma bolts past people but in SS Journey the actual combat has no changes period. A buff called “Sword of Heroism” or whatever isn’t reflected in the combat models only reflected in the game mechanics. It visually disconnects the player from giving as much of a fuck.
>>571251678>tfw you can’t have upgrades that make animation changes to their attacks (like only during a passive proc or some shit) and the only visual combat change so far is from costume destruction completely unrelated >they didn’t even work in costume destruction as part of the wedding journey when it could have easily been some power up or even making their combat animations different afterwards like Carmen fighting more sexy while Epindel has shyness in her steps
>>571250114They can have a twist in the main story where all the savior candidates remember the loops like the MCIt would put a fun spin on future events and story
>>571251964This game is a side project to fund Counterside 2, they aren't going to put effort in lol
>>571250114>>571255113main story had white haired MC remember his previous OG journeys with charlotte and tyria though
>>571255343Yeah he's remembering more as it goes onBut I want the GIRLS to remember since then all Journeys are canon and they have a reason to show affection to the MC in the story, rather than just being nice to him from a weird sense of deja vu/because he's famous. We're already halfway there I mean the wedding story is weird because the heroines want to fuck us but we've had barely any interaction with Carmen in the story. Epindel I can't say for sure because we didn't get the waltz event in global yet
>>571255672Well the next main story is the void trial so the end of the journey for the main girls is coming up pretty soon. I'd expect something big related to the past cycles when that happens.
>>571244176>5. Less isolated event stories, more serious storiesMuh suffering slop. Does KR really like that pretentious suffering porn?
>>571256353Don't we have Flora and Kalaid before then?
luckletsbros...
>>571256743Seems we're getting Flora as a side event rather than a main story. Ceres's event is main story episode 6.
>>571257338Yeah we're most likely getting a lot of side excursions to pad out the main story, like pic related wouldn't have been namedropped if we weren't going there eventually for some event.It makes sense the western liberators get their own main story segment since their episode was skipped and we got Monastir instead.
>>571257197Come on down to Scarcity luckletbros
>>571256742I don't know but it all the stories were serious then it would get boring quick.
>>571257197game is so shit it doesn't even have a system to automatically give guild lead to someone else like every other game
>>571258276At this point we should just merge with Hildfriends or Huldra
>>571257750I wonder if that chick from the doll hunt in hard journey will be there.
>>571092237>65k powerHoly whale, but how do you even get good equipment whaling in this game if you can't purchase equipment?
>>571259408Whales are around 80-90k power on herMy bchar as F2P is 63k, I dunno why but her CP scaling is just really high, she's almost 8k ahead of every other savior
>>571259615She gets a lot of crit and crit damage from resonance.
I should know better but these damn pieces of gear with like 4 desired substats are still shit so long as the main stat above isn’t lined up right? Like I got attack attack crit chance speed ring but the main stat is defense. The fuck? The worst part is I have 10 of these kinds yet I don’t have a single 4x substat piece of gear with the right main stat. Is there rigging involved?
If I’m waiting to break 160 wall do I hit 200 on my sole mlb W Carmen or do I keep her at 199? I know 200gets res 10 but does anything mess up? Should I instead be gearing up my other saviors more?
>>571260769I think most of us broke the wall for free with launch gibs so we don't really know the ideal way to progress while walled.
>>571260769keep her at 199
>>571265784Just curious is there some kinda draw back to hitting 200 too early?
>>571272360no but it's just halting your progress on other characters
How long does it take for saviors to get added to the standard banner pool? Carmen is already gone yet I don’t see Tyria anywhere, I’m not even sure if Lyn is in yet.
>>571272360Kind of.When you hit lv200, your 4 template characters thar you're using to copy theie levels to everyone else get locked in place. From then on, you unlock star link amplification. Which works the same as advanced synchro in Nikke>I haven't played NikkeSo instead of leveling up your 4 template characters like before, you spend resources to upgrade your entire star link box one level at a time instead.Since your template characters are locked in place, you can't change them. You can swap out everyone else in the box, just not them. So the "downside" is you might have some koser you don't give a shit about permanently taking up a spot in your star link. But you need MLB SSRs and its just one spot so really its more of a min max issue. If you can put in your favourites though, go ahead. Don't just go for meta since stronger characters will come out.
>>571274059Do I need 4x lvl 200 or just 1x lvl 200?
>>5712742714x
>>571273000Roughly 4 weeks after their banner cycles out
/vmg/...here we come...
>>571259408Every dps except for roberta/fei want insight and I haven't spent willpower or scopes on anything else but gear. Charlotte's got 2 of the new perfect craft gears equipped but its just a mix of being lucky with gear and Charlotte getting a silly boost in combat power compared to Rosaria or Lynn
I put on the survey>Make the model look like the 2D art>Better UI and menu navigation>Lower the cost of custom gear crafting>Collab with IP that will actually draw in players instead of Counterside>More skins and monetization option like packs that give unique profile banner or something like an oath system for flavour and new lines>Just put fucking more skins in general I'm not interested in buying packI think I didn't forget anything important
Don't you guys see that this game is in not a good state in the first place and yet Bside is rushing to a new project with Star Saviors money for yet another release-profit-neglect scam?
>>571288020nyo
>>571288020>"Hmm yes let's kill our most successful game so far for *potential project*"You have to be retarded to believe that, only assblasted gooks that are mad Counterflop died genuinely believe this. They won't kill Star Savior as long the game is making money
>>571290064>as long the game is making moneyafter these server merges...i don't know if it's making enough...
>>571287584>advocates for external IP collabcollabs fucking suck. they break lore with the rules of the setting often needing to be stretched thin to even allow a collab to happen. collab characters barely get balanced and in the post collab updates, they're always one of two states: they're overpowered and plague the game balance for a while, or are so weak that the immediate following update wipes them off any tier list. but please, tell me what IP a collab with, that you possibly think could draw players to this game? because according to the polls, the most popular character that drew players in was rosaria, a character from counterside.
Bros for journey how do I determine what to grab for hard mode? Like say I can go vitality with 166% and has a flashing white icon, or I can choose endurance which is 216% but has no flashing white icon. Which is the better choice here? I don’t really understand what the flashing white icon does because at least early on it doesn’t see, to do anything different.
>>571288020stay mad counterside cuck
>>571293317nta bro, but about your lore stretching point, star savior seems uniquely set up for more counterside collabs thanks to the whole vestige of corruption phenomenon. 'vestige' meaning basically remnant, and corruption being i assume the corruption of the counterside from...counterside (duh). so i'd guess it points to the counterside got destroyed, erased or banished somehow by the time of ss, but corruption interacting with dimensional tears of enough magnitude in the cs time period, has a chance of allowing characters from cs to come to ss, or even causing people of both eras/worlds to arrive together at an isolated world state like in the collab story.imo i don't mind more cs collabs. heck the collab event was literally called 'vestige of corruption 1: the monologue must end'. so the '1' would imply further collabs. i just hope they use more popular heavy characters (eve or horizon for example) but with way better kits and a more impactful story.though honestly, instead of a collab, i'd rather have horizon show up as a random character released in ss, not brought over from the cs timeline as a collab but actually in ss present as a normal character released with some usual event or main story. think captain and co finding an inert half-destroyed simurgh body, and captain shoving his star piercer and omega repair punching horizon back into consciousness with damaged memories. it could work as the writers using her fragmented memories to give a vague glimpse of what the final battle of cs could have looked like, maybe tying up some loose ends. seeing how cube palace is playing the blunt but protective straight man to omega, i'd fucking love to see horizon and cube palace interact. both blunt ais that have/had to deal with the insanity of people around them. peak shit right there
Gonna show these posts to Bullet
>>571293317>because according to the polls, the most popular character that drew players in was rosaria, a character from counterside.The point of collab is not to appeal to CS retards that are already playing the game anyways for the most part, the point is to attract potential player that may or may not stay after (re-)trying the game.
csfag really believe their opinons matters fucking lmao, they spend their time shitting and crying and expect anyone to listen to their tantrum
>>571301639>says csfags are 'shitting and crying' and nobody cares about their 'tantrum'>still keeps listening to those 'tantrums, throw a fit of their own and hurl insults around like a kidutter projection delulu bro. my game is already dead, your's is dying. this is just a destiny and marathon comparison. except unlike bungie, bside didn't fuck up the lore of their og game, but still managed to mishandle it almost as bad as bungo (at least i didn't have to see characters retconed into being faggots like osiris and saint fans, and nothing in cs comes close to the war crime that is nimbus' sheer existence)
helloTLDR on old character buffs/'readjustements'? whos getting unbricked?
>>571305891HarleyKyraBunny ScarletEpindelSmileTrishSeiraWe don't know what the buffs are but they're coming this week.
>>571306139a good chunk of them definitely need the buff but im surprised about seira, never really felt weak to me
>>571306947She's pretty much a pvp only unit so I guess it's a buff to make her useful in pve as well.
>>571306947The only way to rationalize a Seira buff is something like "no one uses her in pve">>571293317Even if there's retardation involved to enable the collab, some can fit surprisingly well. The Arknights/Rainbow 6 collab for one, Nikke/Nier for another (though, Nikke is just Nier fanfiction).It's true that units are cursed, but if a game needs an influx of users, it's kind of unavoidable. Like, I hated when Epic Shit collabed with a Kpop group, but there was a huge influx anyways.
>>571258276>>571258396Hildfriends cleaned up some slots recently. You can join as long as you're okay with being ruled by the csg cabal.
>>571293996It's /uma/ mechanics. Each arcana you bring has a "bond" you can level by picking their trainings. If you max the bond, then the arcana starts giving you a bigger bonus.So, one way to play is to bond-max early on, then later, you just pick the stat you need.There's a guide on Arca that says to just pick the main stat each time and rely on the stat experience level in lategame to help you scale, but idk, it seems like a whale thing.
>>571227034If you don't have any frontline, then Lacy is a decent pick.
>>571306947seira is in a really weird spot imoshes meant to be like an opener, but she only boosts up 1 guy and doesn't really do "opener" type stuff, because she just... does okay damage and pushes someone up?she really needs to pick a lane on either being a buffer/debuffer stye opener, or actually just a fast damage dealer who is looking to snipe a target, but it feels likes shes being pulled in too many different directions
>>571257197>>571258276erm
>>571316526How close are lucklet bros? from the transfer
>>571316526>>571325390And I just left... but it would be another ~9 days wait
Lucklet bros... are we keeping the guilld alive?
Hildriends and Scarcity have open slots, dunno for Lummies however I think they have one or two.
>Start Kyra's journey>Keeps changing between speaking normally and referring to herself in third personThis is a hell crafted for me specifically
>>571332297thats hell your walking into...
I found the source of the Swimsuit Emily leak: https://arca.live/b/starsavior/161044625It's from January and predicted a lot of stuff like BChar, Fei, the Wedding Alts, but they clearly changed a lot too. And it's just text anyways.
>>571333761I still don't get how Laura and Serapel could've been chosen for another CS crossover.
>>571336601the theory is that they were going to try to prop up Cafe Strega, since Laura is literally the owner.ofc, it's over now.
>>571336693they should just give us Yuna instead
>>571310117I do that and it works for me, but only if you're going all in on a stat. Like, it works better for HP scalers since thry don't need fucking anything else. I'm not a whale and most kf my cards don't have a limit break on them (for some reason I got dana's SSR like 6 times though)
I want to get carnal with Carnelia!
>>571316526>Only to Deputy Guild MasterIt's fucking useless.
>>571345430wait, are the lucklets deputies also gone? wtf
I should have joined Lummies…
>start Lydia's journey>she's a turbo jewI like evil women and all but this might be a step too far...
