Stupid Sexy Recon edition>C.A.R.R.I. Returninghttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_1_0_2>Welcome to Season 2https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2>Youtube and Twitter:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGamehttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/Previous run: >>570786765
add a firing range nigga
blast status?
>>571104062anus blast!!!!!!!!
Art blast (lol) on artstation if you want to see some concepts and suchhttps://magazine.artstation.com/2026/06/bungie-marathon-art-blast/
>>571104701It's a shame that all this beautiful art and unique style has gone to waste. It only makes me angrier, even more so because of who holds it and what they foolishly decided to do with it, awakening Marathon from its 30-year slumber with this misguided, belated fad-of-the-month, content-less hollow extraction flop.
>>571105896>tfw no 4 player pve co-op where you customize your own shell, do objectives to reclaim corpo assets off of tau ceti, and fend off against insurmountable pfhor forces>basically ballbusting difficult suicide missions against waves of alien terrors where extraction is optional ala helldivers stylei hate bungie so much it's unreal
>>571107914That is...a significantly greater variety of enemies than what we actually have. Huh.
Is the Impact any good?
>>571108651marathon was the literal precursor to halo, of course it had a large enemy roster along with some batshit insane lore.and they decided competitive hero shooter with tarkov shit was the best choice for a revival
>>571108651That's all 3 games. Marathon 1 had like 8 enemies with a bunch of palette swaps
>>571104701If anyone has been wondering what the banners say, it's(left) "death levels/equalizes all | In death, we breath" the last word is a little hard to read even in game, I think it's Flamus(right) "death conquers (or binds/fetters) all | I am that which you will be/you will be as I am"(on the sides) "to give silence" though silenzio is Italian, not Latin.
>>571109119Arachne has such a fucking cool aesthetic. Charter is awesome.
>>571109389shame he's got like, what, one priority contract?
>>571109742Yeah. Marathon is just a whole lot of wasted potential
>>571109113Damn. Would be cool to see them. Maybe even a UESC/Pthor crossfire map at some point...
If you don't like the game why are you even here?
>>571109832Maybe in the future there will be more, it would be cool if there was a very stand-out, hard to unlock Arachne skin, that requires you to get *a lot* of runner kills, one that makes you go "oh shit" to even see someone with it.
You've Been Lied To About Marathon... This game is actually full of blast havinghttps://youtu.be/lcMoHGui33U?si=7Z61ca4Rpq71WRsw&t=105
>>571109118this is still more than flopathon
>>571113163blast-haver spotted at 1:55just watched half of this video and it is not a chatgpt essay as a commenter suggests, it is just a low IQ slop enjoyer. chatgpt actually explains and elaborates on its points, comparatively.i quit when he started explaining the story of bungie starting from bungie and even including halo. NIGGER, those aren't even the same company, and why the fuck does this matter for your argument for Marathon (2026)?
>>571114841
lol
How's r/Marathon doing these days? Are they still in denial?
This game was so bad it also killed Hamish Sinclair and the Marathon story page
>>571116591in daily panic over player numbers and people bitching about how this season sucks
finally getting some regular extractions from Cryo and it's solely because I found a team with non brainlets and we all pack mizzys. insane how the game just does a 180 for your entire Cryo experience when you use the most broken meta guns and bubble shield spam. makes me sick
>>571116957Ngl, that's surprising. I thought they'd still be fully juiced on toxic positivity
>>571117638it's honestly entertaining to watch. there's a lot of infighting over people saying the game needs to change entirely because being extraction hero shooter isn't appealing to most, while others like to argue they need to lean harder into the extraction shooter aspect but make it more accessible.what denial there is comes from the fact that the game isn't making any money, and the people who don't want the game to change really reject that notion through sheer cope.
Less Hero Shooter more Extraction Shooter I say
>>571118659extraction shooters are objectively niche, which is the crux of the issue since this game had the development budget of fucking Cyberpunk 2077
>>571119257250 million for 3 shitty forgettable and small levels and 1 good level on a weekly time limit lol
>>571119386here's the fun part, 250 mil was the initial budget.now include delays, marketing budget, and first year operations, the estimate is over 430 mil.cyberpunk 2077's budget was 440 mil. bungie is THAT fucked.
I like Marathon.
>>571119786That's extremely suspicious. There is no way this game should've been over even just 100 million with the amount of content it holds.
>>571103461And the general drops off fucking again.
>>571119927it's because this game was in development hell.the concept was an MMO (called Matter), then it became a hero shooter, then it became an extraction shooter.also if it wasn't obvious from the character design and art direction, the Marathon IP was slapped on retroactively. it was initially suppose to be its own thing.
>>571115315lmao
>>571116591The depression is taking hold faster than kurpa hosk can ban people. They're feeding some posts into twitter again, or vice versa.And of course shitters everywhere. Some even worse than that one dude here who can only understand PVE and still bought this game.
>>571119927>That's extremely suspicious. There is no way this game should've been over even just 100 million with the amount of content it holds.There was a LOT of chaos with metooing the previous guy and emergency changes with the Zeig heil. And bungie under best conditions is extraordinarily bloated and inefficent.
>>571120358btw here's a screenshot of old Triage, when he was called Lifeline
general died twice nowno one likes extraction slop, people would rather play true single player games than drag their balls through FOMO ridden extraction slop.Tarkov is changing. Arc Raiders was developed for the long term. bungie is retarded.
Darksight Scopes on precision rifles honestly seems like a meme. It highlights what, 30m at best? It's just okay.
>>571120969Somehow even blacker?
>>571090908>>571091665They could have done a lite-campaign that takes the existing maps, blocks off areas to linearize it, script in some sequences and have people talking to you over comms. Could easily have gotten 2 missions out of every map and done a cool sort of evolving campaign where every new map that gets added also gets these new missions to further this campaign story. Throw in audio logs to find and computer terminals to read off of like classic marathon for lorefags to make youtube content off ofWould have been a lot less resource intensive than making unique maps and assets for a fully fledged campaign while appeasing people complaining the lack of a campaign and how the new season hasn't moved the story forward enough, offered a mode to interested campaign players and maybe even draw them into trying a PvE
>engage a team>there was a 2nd team right around the corner that third partiesI kind of fucking hate the pvp in this game sometimes
>>571122541The maps are too fucking small, even in duos everyone just fucking slams into each other.
>>571122301Maybe they'll do it, but scripting like that takes time, and it's gotta be something interesting enough to not feel like just a normal walk through the area or no one will care.If I were them I might consider a way to make some of the priority contracts into missions like that (and maybe pull Rooks in for some stages or keep certain stages of it as contested contracts that spawn in an opposing player, that'd be my preference but I'm sure people would whine) while working on more storylines for upcoming seasonal developments.
A shame that a 25% of the actual content of this game is locked behind trios only. Still can't believe they actually hedged their bets on this being a primarily trios only game.
>>571123851Bungies going to have to do something, anything to pull in players. Whatever the fuck this is right now isn't working
The core for Recon that improves TADs is fucking lame as shit, why wasn't that changed?
>>571122754As intended. They want high intensity. Rapes for everyone.>>571125493They needed to be in emergency mode back during the server test. The fact that they seem shocked at this outcome tells me they're gonna die. At this rate, maybe mass layoffs couldn't make things worse.
>>571126483Yeah, seems like they're way to outta touch with gaming as a whole as well.
Got a good payday in ranked last night. Fighting a team at east wall and a third team showed up to party. Got a lucky break and managed to turn the fight on them and yoink their gold stuff.First time converting footage so sorry for the scuff
>doing sponsored perimeter with a buddy>actually find a compromised key in a wall safe>get some good implants/heals/purple backpacks and a bubble shield>already looted hauler so we're good on guns>thisistherun.exe>Warden just didn't spawn at all on the mapWe swept every POI and he just wasn't there. What horseshit.
>>571125287I'ma be honest does anyone else run solos simply because they dont want to fuck up 2 random peoples night by absolutely fucking up
Destroyer shells are kept in a state of permanent fight ready agitation by leaving their kissable lips exposed but making sure their helmet is too big to actually lock lips.
>>571128462Nah I just don't like the cadence of trios mode. I actually prefer Solos being a slower experience, duos is alright slightly more frenetic but you still have the capability to disengage and move about the map without it being a slugfest.
>>571128158good clip anon
Why does a failed game have a general
because your dad touched you at night
What do your cradles look like?
>>571129183I don't get it. >>571132442maxed, obviously
>>571132173Because the body hasn't hit the floor yet., and even if it did, the rape fans would keep it pumping out of spite.
>>571132565That is maxxed.You get 70 out of 80 total pips to fill.
>>571132442>not getting the final perk from melee, recharge and enduranceRetard?
>>571129183Thanks fren. I'll try to post some more stuff when I get the time, but like 90% of our ranked footage is just us ratting cause we keep getting put on servers that aren't in our region despite setting the matchmaking to connection priority.>>571132442This is my cradle for playing Assassin/Sentinel. I'm the trio's dedicated "TAD man" for if we hit a POI, but I'm wondering if it's worth cutting back on resistances so I can bump the revive speed up, since I mostly take the MIDA resistance implants that can shore that up a little, but the self repair speed is really nice.
>>571132876Final perk for dex is legitimately useless since MIDA offers the exact same thing as their level 6 capstone rewards and the final pips don't have stat increases.
>>571108651>huh I wonder why the live service game meant to last a million billion years drip feeds me content in three month increments, seems weird I only have a little bit of content when the game’s only been out for three months
>>571133053I didn't say dex
>>571121201>it’s three schizos and some chartposters talking about marathon’s budget for the 400,000,000th time baiting tourists into posting
>stuck on economic espionage III all week>reverbs will not spawn>final infil of the night and i spawn in front of 3 of themthank god.
>>571133134Yeah but I did because I'm confidently mentally challenged.
>>571122301>pve players got the exclusive, clearly marked pvp game and then complained about no pve so much that bungie felt forced to add a pve mode that was so overtuned it torched their ENTIRE seasonactually hilarious. no one has their hands on the wheel.
>>571133384I saw one twitter post that apparently claimed it took 40 runs for someone to get them to spawn. It's fucking insane that Bungie just assumed everyone would do the reverb missions in the one week sponsored night marsh was available and didn't bother up'ing the spawn rate of them in actual runs
>>571133527Do wish the perk spots did give some bonus stats, even +2 just for a little sumthin sumthin though.
>>571133028not sure if it's fixed yet, but the last node in resistance is bugged and doesn't work.
>>571133596I did hear it was bugged, but I honestly just crossed my fingers and hoped they fixed the bug with the weekly bug fix. Maybe I might do a sponsor run later to verify
>>571133384It actually is fucking broken though, they were guaranteed on sponsor narsh
>>571133716apparently they spawn all the time in solos.
>game only has 4 maps>play it for over 400 hours since launch>want to play moreSeriously, why people saying gaem bad? I fucking love waiting and jumping someone
>>571135297(me)sorry, meant for >>571133557 >>571133948
>>571136645Like solo night marsh? Weird.
>>571136882from what i've been told. but i never do solos.
Vandal is the best shell and it's not even close. It feels like I'm playing a different game than all my squad mates with the sheer amount of mobility she has.
>>571136208It really says a lot about Bungie's ability to make games. They're so tight and refined but the lack of content and niche genre is going to be the end of Marathon and it drives me crazy because it really is such a cool fuckin game. I was one of the artstyle haters but it's really grown on me because it's so damn consistent. The 3D printed world is actually believable.
>>57113743750/50 between her and destroyer for me.Amplify and the sickhops are fun but the boost jump and tactical sprint are also v nice.
>>571137437The things I've seen OCE players do with her flipped my opinion on her from thinking she was one of the weaker shells to definitely being the best. If you're a competent PvP player vandal is absolutely insane, and only Destroyer comes close to being as huge of a menace
>>571133550It was such an easy layup too. Just make the pve mode only drop up to blue rarity but a fuckton of them and it could be a fun little way for nubs to farm mid-teir kits to feel competitive with. ggez. The bottom 50~% get a way to gear up but the pvp players still get better loot odds and keep their edge over the carebears. Instead we have a huge chunk of the player base farming green dogshit from perimeter that they refuse to take into real matches because they know they're outgunned and refuse to learn positioning.Full disclaimer for my blog; I'm ass at the game and can still find plenty of success just sneaking around POIs until squads engage with the uesc bots and wipe them while they ammo-dump a commander. I'm dogshit. I refuse to take a fight unless I can 3rd party, and I still love every second of it and have a stash full as fuck. PSA to newbies, just run at the enemy. It's so easy to win fights if you play aggressive as shit against the terrified masses, it's literally what the game is designed for.
>>571137769Boost jump alone has allowed me to reposition and win so many fights, I can't imagine playing anything else and it's a real problem.>>571137812Seriously though people don't understand how fucking stupidly OP it is that you can basically cover 2-3x the distance of anyone else when you ult. It takes fucking SECONDS to be 80m away on the other end of a building sniping the retards that still think you're behind a corner on the opposite side of the complex. Absolutely absurd. I can't believe how much success I've been having just spamming perimeter and flanking like a madman.
Redpill me on tactical sprint. It doesn't seem that useful since it's like 5% faster than regular spring for an extra 20% of the heat build.
>>571138391Tac sprint is definitely faster than 5%, it's more like 10 - 15%, which can be the difference between sniping someone and running up to finisher siphon them or having to shoot them since they'd self rez before you gap close. The real strength is being able to move at a comparable speed to normal sprinting with your knife out while holding a weapon, meaning you're never caught with your pants down and have to fumble to get a gun in your hands if you're peeked while pushing
Why can't I get a game aaaaaaaaaaaa
>>571139057On this game we queue for 5 minutes
>people are only just discovering the UESC bots are printed in using Goetic Runes likely taught to them when Bill Clinton made contact with the Jjaro.
live
Rook Vs Assassin's prime
I like playing sentinel
>>571107914so just darktide?
>>571138391tac sprint is fantastic for running away or closing the distance. you can also use it with your shield active.
Rook Vs rock climber Assassin
>>571148406dieon my murderous cock
>>571149751you got ported to PlayStation and still flopped
>>571149379darktide or l4d but in the marathon universe sounds way more appealing than what we got
>>571148406What a cutie, /mg/ keeps winning >we have Thief>Sony favors us>D Three rejected, studio is forced to keep trying to please us
>>571149875crashing these planes...with no survivors.
Bungie tried to get Destiny three greenlit. Jap grandpa said no, stay on Marathon.Even Jason (((Schreier))) said it's true
>>571149980thats because you are bad at pvp.
>>571150389no just this game isn't fun
>>571150446It's fun when you're outplaying 90% of runners without breaking a sweat
>>571150446umm if you don't like to be fucked up your ass with a three foot long spiked dildo each and every evening you're gay and also a casual and also bad at video games>>571150581based dildo-taker
>>571150581i can outplay in other pvp games, this isn't a hook.
Rook vs hopeless Assassin, this one was the easiest, too scared to try shooting
where are her boobs
>>571150639>i can outplay in other pvp gamesBecause you can keep trying without losing your weapons. You can't keep trying with good guns on Marathon, you get nervous, lose them, and become undergeared. Broken and defeated you are
>>571148701>the way he throws his arms into the air before flopping to the ground jej
>>571150802>waste time grinding shit to be competitiveboring, you can keep your directionless slop
>illegally immigrates to your solar system>brings like a dozen vile alien cartels in its wake>squats on your homeworld after its fellow visitors reduce your civilization to ruinayayayaya halp pl0s guardians
>>571151115>>waste time grinding shit to be competitiveNo, you have fun with teammates, taking other people's gear
ngl it would be cool if one of the shells had a directional microphone that let you hear shit far away
>>571152539ngl I'd bang the shit out of you on Marathon pound you so hard you'll question your gender
>>571151704>camping in a room waiting to instakill someone with your butt buddiesWow this is riveting gameplay, I can tell why Marathon resonated with gamers so strongly
>>571156350>>camping in a room waiting to instakill someoneJust like every team game, you're not supposed to check rooms or corners on your own. Dude believed the building was empty, nobody was shooting bots. Now he learned.
Wow they really didn’t fix the lasers on cryo getting disturbed by air molecules, sliding still sets them off and there’s some spots where crouch walking doesn’t even work
>>571148406I love you Thief cutie
>>571151704i can have fun with in other games, i don't care about gear i can't keep
>>571158660Other games are not as fun, you don't lose or gain items that someone else tried to collect. Losing on this game matters, it's not just a "number go up". It's item stolen, and desire for revenge
>Brags about silver rank>Does 69 damage with 15K kitI sent him this screenshot and said uninstall
>>571160789while playing with autoaim no less
Remember early S1 with the sluts
>>571160598>Other games are not as funmost people disagree including me. this game is boring and uninnovative at most, painfully mid at its absolute best. it still a number go up game with extra steps.
>>571164503>it still a number go up game with extra steps.I do not care about a changing number, if in-game items aren't lost, or won. Knowing that you can make someone lose expensive items, is very entertaining. You can basically nerf people, send them back to basic, less upgraded gear.Send. Them. Back.
>>571164503>alt-tabs back to helldivers and stares at the galaxy map before alt tabbing back to a youtube review he has seen 100 times of a game he has 600 hours in
>>571133550>make a game that is near completely antithetical to the audience you've garnered over +20 yearsreal shocker people want PvE
>>571166763*lays veiny pvpmeat on pvesissy's face*
Anyone manage to beat Warden in solo survival? It's the last of the events that I haven't done solo but I just never seem to have enough time or healing
True you take less damage if game runs 30fps?
>>571169030if its the perimeter warden its not too bad as long as you have something like a scar, lookout, hardline or HMG and plink away at him from the roof. you just need to bring like 5 ammo crates
>>571169030warden is doable with this trick
I love playing Marathon so much bros, even the "Lite" survival mode is fun. Quick 8 minute matches
>>571172472wow anon you killed a green and a white while they were preoccupied. killer footage.
>>571173237That's most of the webms he posts
>>571173237Thanks, I only did this because I wanted to ruin their activity. Ever since sponsor survival released, I played hundreds of Rook runs and did this.
>>571172472How is this relevant to what I asked?
>tune in to seraph max stream>he is doing cryo runs>gets raped 5 times in a row and loses 5 purple shieldsbrutal
>>571160789you are missing the pointmaybe if he didnt have free kit nigger MINECRAFT you both would have survived
So you think the Tuesday patch will be substantial?
>>571181535lol
Love going stupid with the knife
>>571183715>knife still has the old magnetism on 'rollerIf I was in this situation on PC that knife heavy would have whiffed
>>571183715that destroyer just waiting for you to kill him like hes a marvel movie henchman
Bungie truly are the ultimate experts of making a game that you love to play but also hate so many aspects of. I haven't felt this annoyed with an online shooter since Siege.
>>571183715i absolutely love destroying cryo skin niggers
>>571181535yes but the substance in question is a hot steamy log of unstable biomass
>>571133596Update; I did a sponsor run with and without the perk as a Sentinel. Using a depleted patch kit, I had the following heal times:>With perk1.6 seconds>Without perk1.9 secondsSo it seems to be working...But honest to god I'm wondering if it's worth saving 0.3 seconds on a heal over potentially getting a clutch rez off or having an actually good self rez time by dumping some cradle points into support.
>>571185912Don't depleted kits specifically have longer use times as well? Maybe it scales better with green and blue heals.
>>571186265I'm not sure? I always assumed the higher rarities took longer to use, definitely feels like it at times. I'd queue up solo into a game to check but it's almost 5am my time so solo queue will take forever to pop and I just wanna sleep. If any anons feel like queuing up with a single green patch kit and just checking what the heal time is (it will display the time over the actual icon of the med as you're using it) in the meantime I'd appreciate it, otherwise I can find out tomorrow when it's prime time in my region.
>>571185912It scales with your base self-repair and any addition to the stat, much like ping duration. The gist of the bug has more to do with the times not being consistent across different consumable types. It works mostly fine on green/blue meds, but panacea kits gain jack shit.
>>571138282People cried and cried for her to get buffed too.
What does /mg/ want in season 3?I'm hoping for a new map. I don't know if we're going to actually get one or a perimeter remix, but an update cadence of map remix > new map > remix would be acceptable for me.I also wonder if they're going to do a new shell every season? Sentinel seems like he was designed as a response to cryo grenade spam, so what would this new shell do?
>>571189363>CopeLarger maps, more solos and duos support, permanent duos queue for every map instead of a daily rotation, pve mode being good>HopeGame is still gonna be alive in 3 months
Does anyone actually use the flares? Also it's insulting that they have infected the loot pool of munitions crates even on day maps.
>>571189363A new marathon map
>>571189363Some type of new Marathon deck for us to raid and a night version of Perimeter. I would like a whole new map that's more open and just bigger, but that's probably a big ask at the moment. I'd like some kind of solos redux where maybe games can start without needing a max lobby size so I don't wait 15 minutes for the lobby to fill just so I die almost immediately. either that or making it so if you play solo you can spawn in mid-round as opposed to at the start.Other then that? Just a cool new shell + weapon and some kind of new content since I don't just wanna play Outpost and the same priority contracts. The limited contracts are a fun idea, maybe making it so we have to actually pick and side with one faction for a season could be fun. Like the other anon said though my main hope is that the game is still living>>571189669I just immediately throw them for shits and giggles whenever I find them, they really serve no purpose. I do wonder if they technically count as a projectile so you can trick a Sentinel trophy into zapping them so the rest of your team can grenade spam but obviously impossible to check in a normal game
>>571189669You can use them for distractions on N.Marsh as tossing one triggers bot alert mode if it's in sight range of any of them. Besides that they have barely any use on other maps and take so much space that you barely ever want to pick them up. They can be nice for communicating with Rooks though, as you can just toss a green flare and keep moving and most of the time they get the message.
>>571187114>I always assumed the higher rarities took longer to useThey take shorter
>>571169030biggest issue when trying solo is ammo imo. best luck ive had was finding a magnum and a bunch of heavy ammo. its a very efficient weapon and whenever i find it is when i start hitting the secured resources, intercept and the warden
>>571189363>a new mapbungie designed a video game entirely around farming the same rooms on the same maps for 'people' that think grinding the same content a thousand times over is entertaining. you're getting a new map in season 4 MAYBE.
>>5711938864x stacks of ammo per gun and a couple of the green ammo crates should be more than enough to handle the lobby + warden.
>>571194206theres no lobby, talking about sponsored survival solo. doubt youd run into that many green ammo crates, at most ill find 1 maybe
>>571194402Oh solo yeah that'd be super rough unless your Hauler run was super juiced and you got lucky with munition crate spawns
>>571189363>New map>New INTERESTING enemies>Shooting range>A set of new priority contracts for each faction>More volt cell weapons>A MIPS ammo revolver
>>571132663>>571133028>>571132876>He doesn't know about the exploit.
>>571184139I think he tried jumping on me from above but the fall disoriented him, he did almost kill me but should have pulled his knife
>>571196576???
anyone wanna do some sponsored perimeter boss runs? duo or trio
Is there actually anything stopping Cryo from working as in solos mode? I went in there a few times and the enemy density isn't that insane, and bots aren't that scary post-nerf anymore if you aren't retarded.
>>571189363>What does /mg/ want in season 3?There's no S3, I'm playing grand theft auto, claw man, and a new extraction shooter
>got downed from toxin damage and nothing else despite using a blue heal???
>>571203580AHHHH
>>571203683bro, your mechanics kit? bro?
>>571204731didnt even get a chance ot use it bro
>>571203683you gotta use a mechanics kit if your health is already low, dont think the meds can keep you up if your hp is low enough unless you have a med drone too
>>571201010The problem is that solochads in cryo would readily team up with each other and easily clear out cryo together. Not getting constantly raped by other players would expose cryo for being a joke of an "endgame" map and marathon as a whole being shallow as a puddle in actual content. It would also fly in the face of the gnostic humiliation ritual that bungo devised for us wherein we goyim must turn on and cannibalize one another like niggers for the amusement of the demiurge.
>>571203683>>571204731>>571204881Imagine dying to a flower
>>571205053>gnostic humiliation ritual that bungo devised for us wherein we goyim must turn on and cannibalize one another like niggers for the amusement of the demiurge.I did that before Marathon. No ritual, no demiurge, I just loved doing it.
>>571205081It was from a chem grenade
>>571205053But it's already a joke of a map because it's fully cleared of opposing teams by minute 5.
Snow map or beach map is the only way I'll keep Marathon on the SSD this fall. I have 2TB and won't have space for the game otherwise.>Perimeter remixHow pathetic
>>571206174>won't have space for a small gamecan you stop advertising other games in our general you waste of flesh
What do you think actually causes gear fear? I have never experienced gear fear in games like this honestly. I never see my gear as even my gear. In the context of the lore, all the shit we find belongs to CYAC anyways right? It was never mine. CYAC will take everything in the end. However CYAC can't take your player experiences or knowledge gained. I just never saw the point of having gear fear. My guess is that gear fear is some sort of cousin to the FOMO freaks who can't help but get FOMO'd by things. "LIMIITED TIME OFFER!! BUY NOW!!!" types of shit.
>>571207921it's the dissonance between rpg-like systems and the pvp hero shooter comp shit.people don't like spending time looting and grinding for power just to lose it all and gain nothing, whether it's from a player or a seasonal wipe.this is why people don't like the genre and rather just play more focused pvp games without the fluff, or pve games where grinding for power is the point. this is why marathon is failing.
>doing duos with my buddy>go to processing>ping and see a pair of freekitters>they get killed while we're rotating around to them>kill the green shield duo that killed them>then we get ambushed by a blue shield duo and dieAnd like that 90% of the lobby is wiped out in less than 10 minutes. I really hate the cadence of the non-solo modes. It might as well just be a TDM if this is how every match plays out.
>>571209118>rather just play more focused pvp games without the fluffArcadey, casual PvP games are the fluff. CoD, Battlefield, Overwatch, loss there doesn't matter. Zero point in shooting people that don't lose their weapons because of you.Once you PvPvE the typical PvP fluff gets boring
>>571207921>I never see my gear as even my gear.I see gear as trophies. On Marathon, I only run green guns, and replace them with purple. If something goes wrong, I loose green backpack and gun. When done right, I replace it with expensive stuff.
>>571209835The vE part is hardly relevant
>>571209835I would rather the gear mean little to nothing. The farthest I would go with "Making another player lose their good gear" would be maybe making someone drop a power weapon in Halo.I also hate hardcore modes in RPGs for a similar reason, but on the other hand I like roguelite mechanics of "start with nothing, return to nothing on death" where it's all about how much you understand the game's systems.
>>571210138Environment can damage you, target you, it will interfere with your PvP intentions. The vE part is for the enemy team to take damage, then you jump them and make them lose their anal Vi cardGet it? Hueheuehahah hHAAHAA
>>571209835I honestly like games like Marathon because of the semi-emergent shit that can happen. mostly in solos. I came across a guy doing some quest in solos and I started shooting him because he was in my way and I didn't want to risk it. He screamed open mic "WAIT WAIT, I JUST NEED TO KILL UESC COMMANDER HERE!" So I stopped shooting him and said "Dunking on the UESC? Why didn't you just say that?" and I shot robots too for my own quest and we parted ways. I don't think a game like CoD or CS2 etc could ever have something like that. I wouldn't exactly consider myself a carebear player and definitely have killed people unprovoked in marathon but I actually like dunking on UESC and I like roleplaying as a Traxus hired goon and Traxus doesn't like the UESC pretty much at all. So it made sense.
>>571207921It's not gear fear, I just don't want to reward the punk that kills me.
>>571209835literally most people disagree with you. this game had entire week of f2p and tons of marketing yet no one is biting dude. all the newbies who tried expressed their grievances and said the same shit, saying this genre isn't for them, they don't get the point of progress, too punishing to be fun, etc. either this needs to be a PvE game or a stronger, more streamlined PvP game if Bungie wishes to continue. it's fine for this genre exist as a niche, but it's not going to get mass appeal, and Sony wants mass appeal.
I mean the core issue of the game is literally everything forces you into pvp whether you like it or not so it's really a game of who is the first person to make the fatal error of trying to actually do something in the game they are playing.
I really like the idea of PvE mode where your team is 4 UESC bots you can customize, with the missions about protecting or reclaiming UESC assets from pfhor forces.The robot designs might also be more appealing than the runner designs, which would help sell the game. But this idea might be too good, so Bungie will do the opposite.
All shields should provide twice as much protection as they do now. The TTK is still way too low.
>>571210346I love mother Nona, and get paid by Charter. Traxus? Never heard of them.>>571210479I do not care how Sony maintains Marathon, if Bungie survives or not, I want PvPvE games. Regular PvP is boring, people should lose items if they die.
>>571212525This would be pretty cool. The robot designs are more appealing than the runner designs; it's what initially got me into the game.
>>571213490Shields should naturally recharge 1 pip worth of shields after 30 seconds of not taking damage.
>>571215013Natural recharge would be most welcome. Maybe even at ridiculous rates such as Halo's or Destiny's. In exchange for no shield charge consumables at all.
>>571212525>The robot designs might also be more appealing than the runner designs, which would help sell the game. But this idea might be too good, so Bungie will do the opposite.The bots are my favorite part of the character design, and I like the shells. I'd rather play the cool demon mecha tyvm.
>>571212525Wait, you're cookingRepubl- UESC Commandos campaign set when UESC first arrive on Tau Ceti
>infil>2 freekit teammates>climb ontop of quarantine and immediately hear footsteps to the north>hear them open the door and walk into quarantine>tell my teammates 3 times they're walking into quarantine>teammates are still looting>both of them die while i'm on the roof>"YO WTF THERE'S A TEAM HERE"valorant raised a whole generation of retards.
>>571216483>>571212525There is no reason to assume the UESC wouldn't employ their own runners and let them use UESC bots as shells/bodies
tfw I'm pretty sure I selected trios with fill but load in alone so now i'm not sure if I'm a solo against trios or just picked solo by mistake
>here's your Cryo Archive fill teammate, sire
>>571217131i wish, mine have green shields and worse guns than the bully
>Wanna go this way? Too bad there is toxic plans>Wanna take this route? lmao birds>Wanna take the route through the building? The warden just spawned there>Take the long route around? Rocket Drone!I think bungie designs for maximum inconvenience
>actually have a good outposts duo run where we wipe two teams and get enough red keys to hit the pinwheel key room uncontested, first time my friend ever went in that room>we each get a gold item and a bunch of purps between us, no keys though>ventilate two rooks that are trying to team on us as we are leaving>get out at restricted exfilWhen the game is good it's really good.
>>571217301I would just go through the plants and tank it. Or through Warden's crew, with invis.
>>571217301Plants are safest. Shoot them and run.
*walks through poison flowers*No big deal, got a fast healing factor, Bub.*snikts health pack*
I like the game, it's my first dive into the extraction genre. But I really do wish people played a bit more open and aggressive (in Solos). Everyone seems to be afraid even though there is no loss that can't be compensated by a single good run. The quests can't be the reason for the passive gameplay either because most of them are piss easy and the tough ones take players into command wing or other places.
>>571218034>shoot plantsYou want every squad within 100 meters to stare at your direction and get horny?
More Rooks seem to be farming Lite players
>>571219282Who cares? One rook or a thousand, they all must die. Makes no difference.
A complete PvE mode with no option to attack runners should be scrapped, fuck that
>>571219350Sometimes you don't know you're getting Rooked, because the Rook has over 400 hours on the game. Trust and believe you're not exfiltrating that round
>>571137812>>571137437>>571138282she's only good for higher skill players. low level and low skill players have a much harder time taking advantage of her strengths than other shells that create value much more readilyi do still wish she was a hacking/demolition specialist more befitting of her MIDA origin story, though
>>571203580I was very mildly interested in the new DMZ, but I'm not spending $70 on a video game.Also, I'm not buying another CoD again in my life.
>>571219726The only way to get a new map, with solid gameplay, is to buy MW4. To me, it's a $70 DLC for Marathon. I'll play it like Marathon.>what if Marathon S3 actually bring a new big mapWith 69 players online
>>571207921I think it's an extension of FOMOMy biggest annoyance is when I lose a great piece of gear before I even really get any mileage out of it.
>>571219594Just assume there is a rook around every corner and play accordingly.
>>571219490Can you cut yourself to show Bungie that we want them to make Marathon 2?
>>571220418I never cut myself, cat accidentally fucked me up. She's like a wolverine
>>571221446I've been posting my cuts on twitter and bluesky and tagging bungie employees
>>571221743That's bullshit but I believe it.
Marathon has too much to do>go for a robbery on Cryo>go for a robbery on sponsored survival>go for a robbery on standard mapshard too choose, all of this is fun
>>571189363I am like 95% certain S3 will have a new map otherwise Bungie has legitimately lost the fucking plot
don't go solo, you need all the help you can get
This game is just like Destiny before it. In the sense that there is a solid core but bungie always lacks that final mile, that last spark, that unknown something that would turn the game from being alright into something amazing.
We got a titty streamer
>>571225893>controller on pclol
>>571223428Why when I use the V11 paunch the shit feels like a peashooter?
>>571226115bad aim or not spamming the trigger fast enough probably, or using it outside of about a 40m range
>>571226115Dunno, that pistol hits like a truck
>>571224372The fact that they keep making the same mistakes is telling
>>571226092yeahthat's who you lose to in this game btw
do you still level way faster in trios than you do solos? I normally only play solos but like to dabble in trios every now and again.
>>571228005not just this game, the big extraction shooter(MW4) will have strong aim assist too. They lowered the aim assist in Black Ops 7 and that game flopped. CoD's gonna be aimbot kino, just like Marathon.
>>571228409that's cool but this is the marathon general so who gives a fuck
>>571228552The Marathon general has nothing to discuss, because they were fake-hyping a night map, calling night maps good. Nobody gives a fuck about it, just like I told you they won't
>>571228716the way you spend your free time is strange
>>571228773There's nothing strange about calling out queers, who lied about enjoying night maps. I saw you liars with the fake hype
Did they increase the recoil on the D54? Feels like it kicks more, caught me off guard fighting someone who was using the Hardline and they actually got me.
>>571229968stock status?
>>571222468>that long ass crusty yellow thumb nailbarf
If they don't nerf D54 by next Tuesday that's going to set the mood for the rest of the season.
Flashlights should just be a baseline feature of the game.
>>571210346>I honestly like games like Marathon because of the semi-emergent shit that can happen. mostly in solos.The problem with Marathon is that it incentivizes PvP so heavily that you rarely get that kind of interaction since the vast majority of interactions is shoot on sight
>accidentally load in solo>don't know if this is trios>waiting for an exfil to be activated>one goes up>go check it out>sneak up and see Sentinel with purple shield>full kill him>purple Destroyer tries to rush me>beat Destroyer to a pulp and he zips away>jump into their exfil, see Rook laying there >Rook is down but alive>hear Recon's ult activation>teleport out and see a Recon pissing himself with DestroyerYou have to pick a map, open crew fill options and toggle "fill on, then fill off, and on again" to make sure you get teammates. This was a funny situation, I hit that squad so hard, they thought they're getting jumped by a team.
>>571216675Orion is implied to be a runner isn't he?
>>571233524That's paint, not dirt. I draw
>>571236010Not implied, he's explicitly stated to be one.
>>571236868Which codex?
>>571237215The events of MIDA Truth/Lies 5/6. Orion is killed in action by something while investigating anomaly shenanigans but he's still right as rain commanding the UESC operation._Gantry expresses disappointment that MIDA isn't responsible but says there's always next time since Orion has probably already been reprinted by now.
>>571226115You're probably too far away. Volt weapons have massive damage dropoff
>>571228409It's funny how everyone praises Bungie for their gunplay but the secret sauce is just bullet magnetism.
Welp
>>571239384nta I don't mind that but then they have the gall to call the game a hardcore FPS for hardcore players
Okay, I really haven't played the game much recently. I think I'm about done. I enjoyed it at the beginning, but I'm kinda burned out on it at this point.Now my real question is, how long do you guys think the game has left?>We are getting at least a year. They said so on the blog post.Yeah, and Highguard was also getting a year. Those promises don't mean anything once the funding gets pulled.So my question is, how long until Sony pulls the funding?
>>571244343I think we'll get a year and then maintenance mode because Sony doesn't want another embarrasment on top of Concord, so it'll rather go quietly into the night instead of a cord pull. Bad reputation otherwise if you want people to stay in any future live service you might offer
>>571244545>Bad reputation otherwise if you want people to stay in any future live service you might offerwhat other future live service?Fairgame$? I mean, Br€ak In? Or whatever the fuck it's called now. Can't even call it Jade's game anymore because she fucking bailedOr that fucking disgusting-looking Horizon game (most forced franchise to ever exist btw)?
>>571244751Well, yeah, those
>>571245612Sony is so fucked, manlike, what the fuck where they thinking?Like 12 live-service games in development all at once?
>>571245771greed and trend-chasing
>>571244343>how long do you guys think the game has left?However long it takes sony to either lose paitence OR redeploy the devs to work on the next game. By any conventional metric they should have moved it to winding down mode already, even if they havent announced it yet.
>>571245771It’s always correct to make live service games. You see Highguard and Marathon and think, “These devs are idiots. Just make an arena fps with a single player campaign and you’ll sell plenty of copies.” What you’re missing is CS, League, Apex, DotA, all these fucking things, pulling BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR EACH for very little effort after they’re up and running and farming enough players to sustain an online player base. The amount of money these things generate relative to the amount of effort required may as well be infinite. It looks bad because Sony has Concord and Marathon and whatever else ruining the view, but it doesn’t really matter. It’s always correct to burn a ton of money aiming for a live service hit. Players want games that they can throw their lives away into. Companies want players that spend all their time with their product. You can’t really blame either side for live service games infesting the space, the meat yearns for the grinder.
>>571249862God what I wouldn't give for a new (good) MMO to drop. One that actually becomes part of the cultural zeitgeist.
>>571192347longer to use, faster to heal.
>>571207921A lot of answers here and they’re all wrong. It’s loss aversion. It’s a mix of pride (this is mine and it is good so I am good), safety (stockpiles are good and if I have a lot of powerful things then I am safe), and resentment maybe? You can do everything right and still lose and that’s hard to process, so people just throw a fit and act like they had their good run stolen from them when they lose their good gear. Ironically this just leads to worse runs long-term because they begin treating gear like trophies and hoarding it instead of using it as fuel to boost their EV. Bungie really should’ve put something in the game to nudge players towards learning to use gear instead of hoard it. I don’t know what, but something. The cradle just eats all of it. Which is kind of the right idea but definitely the wrong execution.
Is it worth doing shitkit runs to farm heals?
>>571251402>Bungie really should’ve put something in the game to nudge players towards learning to use gear instead of hoard it.It's a behavior you can't fix. The popularity of sponsor kits as a whole proves it. The game already launched with even more limited vault space prior to them raising the consumable stacks and the players rather consistently hoard instead of using the stuff they gain on runs. On one hand, i'd see the best option always being to go in with the stuff you exfil from your last run, stash what you want to desperately keep and then keep the ball rolling that way. Most people don't do that. They mostly just stash everything and go in with a sponsor kit for next to preserve each and every net gain. The only way i could think of improving the situation is putting gear ante on everything outside sponsored playlist, but that sours the ultra casualfag audience even more.
>>571251402>You can do everything right and still loseEverything right implies perfect timing, how would you lose. You can win by escaping, you don't have to finish fights. How someone with perfect timing loses?
>>571252192>to farm heals?Do Rook on sponsored survival, run around pick up Unstable Biomass. You can trade endless biomess for health and shield charges. 5 Rook runs should be within 50 minutes, if you jump in at the last seconds and don't die, you should have like 100 biomass within an hour
>>571253120Dang good idea
>>571252192Once you're high enough in capstones with Nucal, you usually don't have to farm heals unless you pack like six million each run. You can hit sponsored survival, do some Rooking/low stakes runs with kits to grab some stuff to trade but stuff like med cabinets and their contents are rare and far between. Sparkleaf, Tarax seeds and Unstable Biomass are all very efficient ways to get green/blue meds without paying. Beyond that, just buying some with creds before each run works fine too, even in the case you lose.
damn I gotta start rooking more on the duos maps, got an easy 2 misriahs and a free pinwheel off two goobers killing bots
>tfw just spamming rook runs to get silencersThis is so silly
I want teammates, I toggle crew fill ON, game STILL sends me alone
>>571254415I don't think you can specifically queue for duos can you? Unless maps with an active duos queue automatically puts Rooks in that queue.
>>571212525Source on that image? I want it in higher res.
>>571237215Truth/Lies 5/6, and also in the last log you get from helmets in Cryo Archive. He and 3 other UESC runners died to the Compiler.
>>571257127NTA - https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8vWvbQcheckhttps://www.artstation.com/channels/tag/TheArtofMarathonfor more bots and concept art
>>571257648Thanks. I guess this never got used.
>>571258187No there is 100% a commander that throws those.
>>571256451Specifically no, but rooks do get thrown into duos lobbies now so if you rook into a map running duos there’s a chance of it
>>571257648Some of these would make for amazing Lego kits. I'm not even saying this as an insult.
https://youtu.be/4gcs5k8n-FY
>>571252192>>571253517>>571252192It's cyac this season. Roll the repeating quest until you get shell games 2/prime time 3, do it on a sponsored perimeter and leave the run when you're done. One evening of this and you never need to worry about purple/blue salvage, money, or any consumables anymore
>>571258835kek anon
>>571255226turning on crew fill is not enough, did you select trios as well?
Previous version of the assault trooper shield.
Season 2 contracts being complete nothingburgers took the wind out of my sails for this game. You'd think they'd have SOME actual story ready for the very next season after release
>>571185912Update on this: I have now done several runs as several different shells, both with and without the field medic perk, with depleted, green and blue meds and found the followingFirstly, the perk is working. It reduces the time it takes for all healing consumables by 0.3 to 0.4 seconds, depending on which healing item it is (most items are 0.3, green patch kits are the main culprit with the 0.4). I'd safely assume it's reducing it by 0.3 across the board and that the 0.4 seconds is just a UI complicaton. Secondly >>571187214 this is completely wrong; self repair speed ONLY affects the actual healing effect for once you've activated the consumable and speeds up/slows down how fast you regenerate the lost health. The perk just reduces the time it takes for the consumables to actually activate, and isn't modifiable by any stat, the perk is the only thing that can potentially reduce the activation time. I know this because I had 4 test groups/shells; sentinel with self repair speed maxxed (stat number = 70), sentinel with no self repair (stat number = 15), thief with no self repair (stat number = 5) and triage with self repair maxxed (stat number = 80). Despite the variance in numbers, all had the exact same times for actually using the items both with and without the perk. Thirdly, >>571192347 every healing consumable of the next rarity takes longer to use, with the benefit being the bigger/faster healing effect.Wish this was just actually told through the UI but whatever. Also shocks me how comfortable anons are with just spouting off absolutely incorrect info so confidently.
>>571128158Good shit
>>571266469Why does it seems there's barely any people that play for the joy of playing instead of slurping up content slop? Ive put hundreds of hours into Hunt and ARC and didn't really give two fucks about the "story" there. If I want a good story I'd play something like Roadwarden, Vagrus or another strictly story driven game (or an RPG like Pathfinder if I'm feeling particularly plebeian) with lots of prose or mystery in it, not an online pvpve extraction shooter.
Just bought this gane from a key site. Is it dead? I should have researched, I just thought it had a unique and cool aesthetic and music.
>>571274028It's alive. You might not get a decade out of it, though.
>>571274028It will easily coast to end of next season. Very likely you'll get bored of it before it keeks over.
>>571274028you are gonna experience the hardest game of all time
>>571274220>a decadea year*
>>571275327camping in corner is hard job saar
>>571275327I waited til 1.0 for Tarkov and held my own among the trannies and nolifers that knew everything. Im here to have a blast.... Always get bored when Im on top.
I fucking hate solo Outpost runs.>find 2 green keys and rush to Pinwheel, get a full backpack of goodies>check 3 Red Key spawns; they're all taken>go to the guarded exfil since there's like 4 minutes remaining>exfil spawns a fucking commander + 5 more bots>get downed by UESC and heat cascade>random assassin comes up and finishes me and then extracts without looting my bag
>>571228716I mean ARC Raiders doesn't even have a general thread anymore. Most of these shooter games just don't have much to talk about unless there's coombait for all the retards to say "SEX WITH [x]", e.g. Overwatch, Marvel Rivals.
>>571282972same. Im just trying to do Unsanctioned Hostilities 4/5. pretty much have to clear the lobby to even have a chance and I suck at finding keycards
>>571283336>I mean ARC Raiders doesn't even have a general thread anymorebecause their schizo abandoned and came here, most posts on here are his
>>571258445The one you posted especially because even just looking at it you can straight up picture parts of the build in your mind, could do SNOT galore on thatAlmost makes me want to get whatever program people design Lego sets on their computer and attempt putting it together
>>571269000did you have a purple med pack to compare? probably not, right? i wonder how the perk interfaces with those
>>571282972>pinwheeling on solo outpostthat's high level stuff you're trying there, big fella
what's even the easiest way to get into Pinwheel solo? Ive only found the drone card once and I can never seem to find more than 2 power boxes outside destroyed wing. Is it really just keycard hell?>>571283336sex with Vandal
Building a load out is such a boring chore drag holy fuck, I have so much shit in my vault and I just run sponsored kits because it’s the fastest way to get back to the actually fun part of the game. I hate the talentless niggers that designed the UI in this game so much. I see they still couldn’t develop the technology to allow me to buy more than a single stack of ammo at once, but I’m actually thinking now that forcing players to click the buy button 10x every time they want to buy ammo is fully intentional. I don’t know what the intent is but it makes me want whoever’s involved raped and dead
>>571283507I hate how Bungie made that locked room in Pinwheel require 3 red keys. In solos, I used to be able to get this lone red key circled here 90% of the time. Now it's basically 50-50 chance it's there or not unless I beeline for it.They should make the extracts require yellow keys. For some reason I can find those more abundantly than green or red keys.
>>571288173you can click on slots in your inventory, and then your vault will only show items that can go in that slot. E.g. click on the shield slot, vault shows you the shields you can equip.
>>571287852There's only 3 ways in and you excluded 2 of them. If you don't want to memorize power box spawns you are left with dumb luck (drone elevator) or hacking your way in.>>571288491It's supposed to incentivize PvP. And yellows are abundant since they trigger supply drop and transport drones (that nobody does) and armories (that sometimes do get looted).
>>571288491isnt that particular keycard always the most contested with people just sitting with their sights ADS'd at it? would rather loot it off someone by chance than go through the trouble of that one
>>571289176>excluded 2 of themNot like I'm doing it intentionally. Don't the power boxes have like 25 different potential spawn points? Seems like a chore to remember all that shit
>>571289217Nah, it's out of the way enough that trying to camp it is counterproductive when you can rush for other keys.>>571289360Yes, because it's supposed to be the harder alternate way in to offset it being stealthiest and safest.
>>571288609I’m aware, still a clunky chore that after so many hours I just don’t want to put up with, but thank you.I really wish they had just made a good campaign with an arena style multiplayer
>>571289536A randomize/autoload feature using your lowest value gear first would be neat. Then you'd just have to worry about consumables and ammo
They definitely fucked with the keys, but did they make destroyed and drone easier to get into? S2 is the only time I've been able to get in through those wings by myself. Probably confirmation bias.
>>571289856No they actually made it harder. it used to only have 8 spawn locations, now it has more than 20
>>571289697Is really like a purchase order function that would allow me to set up a one click buy, say like 2 stacks of patch and shields, a blue shield, bag, ammo, battle pistol/attachments and a set of implants. Set it up once and boom it’s good to go whenever you want to run that provided you have credits and stock in the armory.
>>571289697 >>571291357I’d really like*
>>571291357What I'd love is an ability to pay some creds or salvage to pack up a loadout (irreversibly and one time only) into a neat 2x2 box like sponsored ones. Then you take it to a match and it unloads into whatever you put inside.
>>571291813I think that would also be really good yeah, just more shit to streamline the process of interacting with the garbage UI and getting players back into gamesI’d wager at least half of everyone running a free or sponsored kit is doing it because they just didn’t feel like building a load out for the 100+ time
>>571289217Don't know about trios, but I've never been killed out there solo. Seems like a pretty easy spot to camp with that building nearby, but nah.
>>571292208im gonna start camping there and ruin it for everybody
There should be insurance you can buy that will return any items on you that were not looted
there should be a sex mini game
There should be a safe pocket for salvage valuables
Steam Summer Sale will save us.
>>571289697>lowest value gear firstthis would be awful because it would bait so many people (which means it's the kind of decision bungie would make if they could be bothered to update the game more than once every three months). you want to be using your best gear as much as possible to give you the best chances of winning fights.
Why did Marathon failed, we finally got rid of Shitstiny 2 and the numbers have trended up!
>>571297902FOUR MAPS
>>571297902Took all the wrong lessons from Tarkov and also based its core loop on Apex for some reason. Trying to marry the fast, frenetic shooting and movement of a BR with something like an ES game is a fool's errand. Even a game like Arc has pretty deliberate movement and shooting even if its definitely one of the arcadey ES games.
>>571298580*one of the more arcadey ES games
>>571298358Pissed Pedro knew this
>Have potential for build crafting and unique gameplay gimmicks to triumph over usual shooting gunplay>70% of the interesting implants, cores, gun mods, weapons and backpacks are just entirely reliant on RNG and there's no reliable way to get what you wantI'm not even talking about prestige shit is the worst part. Smoke focused assassin for example seems like it could be a valid playstyle with the blue or purple jammer backpack to hide you from thermals and visors and bullshit, and you could combine it with prowl kit and flexweave casing so you move super fast while crouched and invis.But oh no, we can't just have jammer backpacks purchaseable, and prowl kit (a green core) and flexweave casing (a blue core) can't just be available at all times. You have to wait for them to be a barter deal or in rotation, and then you get to buy maybe 2 or 3 of them and that's it. There's all these super specific chips that could be absolutely busted amazing or fun but oops, looks like you can't buy said chips, so you actually have to just either experiment with the singular chip you find for maybe several weeks or just do the most obvious and sensible thing with said chips since there's no guarentee you get them for the rest of the season. The circuit breaker is not a good gun, but the game seems convinced to try and assure you it is because it's drop rate is so low that I've managed to find more Misriah's naturally than it. So if I can get my hands on one, I just have to have fun with the one or two runs I'll get to use it for before I inevitably die and lose my chance to fuck around with the gun for the rest of the season. I'm sitting on 400k credits, I'm willing to get ripped off if you just give me the chance to fuck around with the cool system and mechanics you've made Bungie PLEASE
>S1>had a good time, reached lvl 100+, several successful cryo runs>S2>getting raped so hard I can't even extract from Perimeter, not to mention Dire Marshwhat changed?
>>571296274nah, Id rather it be lowest value gear. the best gear gets saved for the hardest contracts or the best teams, I dont wanna have an autoloadout feature just to take my purple M77 on a repeating Cy-ACK quest
for keyboard and mouse playahs: what look sensitivity do you have it set to
I hate that I just now learned that the people behind Concord were filled with Ex-Bungie employees from around the time of Witch Queen when they did those layoffs around COVID
>>571261395I can get why thy made it just a big glowing rectangle in-game but damn that version is so much cooler, looks like a big lump of polycarbonate
>>571122301Kys
>>571283336>I mean ARC Raiders doesn't even have a general thread anymore.huh, i didn't realize they went belly up. Looked at the /vm/ thread out of curiosity and they're still having the same arguments as day one about weather or not it's okay to kill other players so it's probably for the best the general died
>>571257648Would be cool if UESC were more dynamic and responsive to specific damage. Like if you could shoot their limbs and cripple them, or shoot off armor.
>queue sponsored trios to quickly hammer one large kill count quest>spawn in alone>there was no rooks>still exfil after 15nani?
So this thread is getting moved to /vm/ soon? We don't seem to have enough post throughput to stay on page...
>>571310149why are you obsessed with us
/vm/ is better you dummies. threads can stay up for a week without a bump and it facilitates more honest discussion.
what if the game was called barathon and the shells were big sweaty men haha
>>571252192Only if you're completely fucking ass at the game, and are really just feeding better players.
>>571254689>>571253120It's the core intent of rook. For shitters who lose their best gear faster than it can be replaced to have a low stakes run..
>>571311559I mean it's literally the only way to get a guaranteed silencer when you exfil.
>>571311124they are mad their videogame broke up with them.
>>571266469Sorry, they only have a staff of about 50 people who are writers, editors, story makers, plus sensitivity readers and people to make sure eveyrthing they write is approved. You're demanding way too much from their tens of millions a year spent on that.
My Mida rep is really falling behind, what outside of contracts am i missing? just breaking windows or what?
Bungie's marathon team is 6 developers and 394 HR/PR folx
>>571297902>>571298580The people making the game didn't play Tarkov and don't play Marathon. They have no visibility to it's problems. Brain dead shit like this:>>571303289>>571289697>>571291357takes a backseat to gay rave lego interface.
>>571302995The casuals got killed. You're the casual now.
Anyone else having to spend longer queuing times? Are the servers slow or something?
>>571312125>quality of life improvements are braindead shitfound the tryhard sweat
>>571310149There's enough haters to keep it here for a while longer. For now at least.
>>571312389Brother the amount of people playing this game could comfortably live together inside a normal midwestern subdivision
>>571312583What are you talking about?The amount of players is average for an extraction shooter though? Outside obviously Arc Raiders which is a outlier to the genre.
Are beginners straight avoiding Narsh? i only started a few days before S2 and at rank 46 currently i'm doing narsh and never seeing anyone and when i extract sometimes theres a guy hiding in a bush somewhereI just went in to do a cyac contract so didnt care if i lived and went super load in the warehouse to the east of ai and cleaned the place and its reinforcements and made a LOT of noise then headed to the slightly north exfil in the building with the broken yellow floor up top and it was full of greens you need to progress and shields and implants.Is it maybe solos beginners try it once and get intimidated? or am i just used to stealth games so the creeping and listening for shit is my default?
>>571312686he's saying that the number of people playing the game is small enough that they could live within a few square miles and have plenty of space leftover
>>571315114People go to Night Marsh solo? Huh.
i ONLY play solos because I dont like talking to people
>>571315114narsh solo is meta. also, no one plays marathon.
>>571300184I remember prerelease them talking about buildcrafting and I was already thinking, in an extraction shooter? Awesome I finally got lucky enough to get all the pieces for a build I want to do, oh whoops we got our asses whooped in 5 seconds flat, all that gear is GONEAlmost feels like they just designed shit without even engaging with their own gameplay loop
>>571319852They probably saw people talking about "builds" in Tarkov and thought there was like some deep crazy system there when it's just "look how retarded I made my gun lmao"
>>571319852Well considering there's no way to buy attachments reliably, it does make sense
>Finally had a good trios for the first time>We pinged everything>Everyone knew their role e.g i got up high with longshot, vandall flanking and nuking with arm and knifey asassin smokin and stabbin>Cleared four POI and took out a bunch of commanders>Ended up in all blues with a purple for the first time>Most importantly we shared loot and only took a little from each lootable thing and rotated around leaving some for othersI'm never gonna see the like again.
>>571312409Lethal toxic positivity is a huge part of why this game is so revulsive to the normies. Pretending that everything is ok is lethal.
>>571315114You're walled off from the rapists because of your noob status. For now. >>571317179None of my fills like to talk. You're probably no worse than them. At least I hope you aren't.
>>571319852>>571320502>>571320031>Almost feels like they just designed shit without even engaging with their own gameplay loopOf course. You think the soft, flabby pink haired easily triggered type can deal with the stress of even Hunt? They don't play their own game.
>>571321216They didn't paly Destiny either
>enemy has gold brrt>you lose
>>571321726If I get killed by a BRRT I assume they are a hacker and just report them lmao. Ain't nobody using that shit except hackers going for the 0.1s TTS headshot magdump
>>571320504send them a friend req ingame and keep a list of contact for future runs.and then never contact them again.
>>571321803both times its been the gold brrt
>>571323267lmao what the fuck is that
>>571323267>one shot instantly drops you to 5% hp from full health + full shields
>>571321216>this whole post>most of the people working on marathon are white dudes that've been at the company for like 15 yearscheck the credits
>>571295446I think they should turn DCONs into stations where you can store whatever you want to keep into it and you have to wait X amount of seconds for it to transfer. That way, you can make permanent progress no matter what, but DCONs now become a contested resource that would still drive PvP.
Post factions
its like im playing fucking Clear Sky
Post cryo campchive loadout
>>571326434Dayum UESC nade spams like THAT?
>>571326434>1st salvo brok the window and let the other grenades land right next to youOOOF
>>571326437>at least half of your bag not bubble shieldsNGMI
>>571327208I don't think I need them, I exfil 4 out of 5 times
If I gank you at final exfil don't self revive :( I was going to let you crawl in but when you try to rez I don't trust you anymore
Solo Vs purple team
I don't have any more room for guns, fuck
>>571330015>If I gank youYou and what army, baby girl
>>571312409Not sure but I believe that anon >>571312125 is saying all of those suggestions are brain dead in that they are not deep insights, anyone who’s played the game for a couple hours with serious intent could probably think of these basic QoL improvements. But the studio is too out of touch with the reality of their own game. They had to have players bitch at them to let you just drag mods on and off weapons til they patched it in. A single hour of play testing should of informed the developers of al the counterintuitive clunky bullshit in their UI
>watch 2 teams shoot each other's bubbles for 15 mins>some of them fell>got my bag of explosives readyMFW it's time to boom boom them
>>571330701motherfucker that isn't "versus" thats you downing one and running away.
>>571333601I won their exfil, they called it in. And I smacked them with my dick
>>571333907damn dude thats twisted, not dissimilar from the joker.
>>571334252Shut your whore mouth and hop on Marathon, there's still a playerbase to rape
>>571149537>aimbot
I would love to see the PvE mode fail and get scrappedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYh_Ffqy8g&list=RDNpYh_Ffqy8g&start_radio=1
>>571335346PCjeet melty, no GTA6 or Wolverine on keyboard
>>571325920now thats a fucking idea
>>571226092They cannot into MKB, and they want a crutch.
>>571228045yeahyou get XP for helping people finish their quests, not just yours
>>571335463NTA, but>no GoyTA6I'm good bro
>>571237754Orion is a runner just like we are. If you get a shot at reading Night Marsh Codex for UESC... you find that Orion is still all good and well, and Keletti - his subordinate that you had to fight on Outpost (beacon at the airfield) - is also with him and is mighty frustrated with what a fuckup this whole situation is. She refers to him getting all fucked up by music from that anomalous object, his shell that is.
>>571336002Post your factions, I wanna see how much you PvP
>>571330701That fucking aim bot. Seriously, anyone who says that this game is hardcore is a retard with his hand up his ass.
/mg/ does as much pvp as the redditors who get endlessly bent over and talk about sweats
>>571335463>GTA6>WolverineAcrid garbage. >consolesSame thing.
>>571330701>didnt loot anyone and ran instead of winning the fightok???? who cares why'd you post this clip lol
>>571336858All complaints are about difficulty, because it's hardcore. You lose items and become weaker, when you make mistakes. You maintain a good level of gear, when you don't make mistakes. Not making mistakes is too hard for sh177ers
>>571337071Disingenuous.
>>571337061Team got scared of one man and gave up their exfil. Winner took their exfil away
>>571337350>Disingenuous./mg/ complained about sweats and neets, begging for SBMM and wagie lobbies. This general got stomped by better players
All you hear about Marathon is >game's too hard>need PvE mode to save my booty from tryhards>sweats this, sweats thatRope yourselves unironically
>>571303521Where does this pic come from
>>571337979don't worry pretty soon you won't be hearing anything about it
>>571337979Well, maybe Bungie should just give everyone an aimbot, an automated one too.
>>571337979Don't worry Anon, the game's apparently being taken down in a few months if leaks are to believe due to not making any money.So you won't have to hear those people complaining anymore
>>571337363it's 11 minutes left on perimeter i think they exfiled probably
>>571337979hello blasthaver here where do i fit into your post
>>571340023a AAA studio taking a game down under a year would pretty much ruin their reputation forever. no one would want to buy anything they put out.
there's some fucking bullshit happening on solo outpost atm
>>571340764Good news, you don't need a good reputation when your studio is shut down!
>>571340774What is it? Seeing Rooks or something?
>faction rep voice overs for runs>nona and vulcan for 2x the priceWould it make marathillions?
>>571342689>Charter voice pack but he only talks when you kill another Runner
>>571340774I been griefingsee>>571292348>>571338334Answer my question.
>>571342689I'd pay to have Gantry say some shit like "NICE WUHK RUNNAH" when I kill a bunch of bots
>Spend the week getting shitcanned over and over again, can't win a single fight>Consider calling it quits>Boot up today, get a couple of friends to join>Proceed to wipe an entire enemy trio as the last man standing>Then do it again next round>End the night with 9 killsI don't know what's going on
>>571330701>clickbait ass premise since only one person was trying to actively kill you, you didn't even fight the whole team>the moment you had to actually fight another player instead of shooting them while they're unaware you floundered around like a retard hipfiring at nothing and ran way>even went through the effort of purposefully editing the footage to slow down when you used your ult for "le epic slow mo footage bro">talk about stealing their exfil but the one who actually did was the random rook that got downed and you just scurried into the exfil before it left you alone with that Recon and Destroyer who would have made an absolute embarassment out of you if you had to wait the full 10 seconds>proudly showing off your 1 kill and low damage numbers>inventory value = 711It's impressive how delusional you are and how you somehow think you're some kind of authorative voice on being strong/good at the game. Please keep posting these awful clips and embarassing yourself even more.
>>571343502You drive a hard bargainMNK - 9 Look, 1.0 ADS Sens
>>571325516You're a completely out of touch racist fuckhead . What do you think, Patrick Weeks was before he became 'trick weeks? It's the difference between Destiny at launch and post Final Shape destiny or the Salarians and Taash. At least keep up with the shitposting.
>>571337350No. I am sure he's really that fucking stupid. It's like calling divekick hardcore.
>>571354037The idiot is you for expecting anything but sub r/ garbage from anon.
The raped
>page 9>week 2 of new season>on a weekendname a more raped general
>>571321803>he's never held a drvvshsome people ITT don't even play the game, do they?
>trio team I usually play with aren't on>"I should just do a fill cryo game, I used to do them all the time idk why I stopped">two fills both have green shields and at run start offload gun attachments onto the ground>both don't have mics seemingly since they don't respond to any of my comms and don't communicate anything>hit level 2 clearance but both of them just run out to control for some reason instead of rotating through the side entrances>we get into a fight with a gold shield murder fuck squad>holding down theater as sentinel and have frags, cracking the enemy as they try to push us and stopping their shotgun rush>both of my fills just randomly slide out of the area I've got locked down and try to push without any warning>they get one-tapped by misriah's because they're green shields>they hop on mic and start blaming me like it's somehow my fault they died when they rushed in knowing the enemy team ALL had misriahs>manage to down 2 but lose to the final guyI remember why I don't play fill queue now jesus>>571360569A good like 75% of the people that visit this thread are just band wagon tourists that come here to shit on the game or who only have like 10 hours worth of experience with the game. The other 5% play the game but never step foot into cryo and just rook/shitkit spam. Debatedly only 20% of the anons here actually engage with the game beyond the surface level.The fact most anons don't even know how the ranked system works is evidence enough in of itself of how little people who actually like/care about the game are present in this general.
If they really want to pivot more into making this game more barter focused they need to make more implant and mods available overall. The fact that S2 shipped with no way to buy green precision scopes, mags and barrels is just retarded.
>>571342689>Gantry announcerYeah I'd pay to have an aussie anarchist yell in my ear about getting the fuck out of dodge
>>571363969they pivoting away from the extraction shooter part of the game as a whole bro
>>571364645I definitely see them pulling a reverse fortnite and just leaving the pvp mode in the dust to focus on a new PVE mode. It fucking sucks but with destiny dead there's now a lot of heavy lifting marathon needs to do. I wouldnt be surprised if they're scrambling to completely rework season 3/4 into full PVE focus. It sucks and I hate it but the retard masses are literally too afraid that big bad PVPchad will take their green shield and until they dont have to interact with them they will not play the game.
>>571364964they picked literally the worse pvp genre they could have done. as the free weekend showed, not many people liked it for good reason.
>>571365101They picked the worst for mass market appeal, and that is an important distinction.Extraction shooters are wonderful if you are used to two things:-PVP-Actual stakes to loseThe highs of this game are like nothing else. My first cryo extract I almost threw because of how insanely excited I was after we downed a full purple/gold missy team. The issue is that the lows are equally as extreme. If you're john mcgeneral audience, who's max tolerance for punishment is losing 15 minutes of your time and nothing else, losing one of your 6 green shields that they hand out for free is *unacceptable*. That was your loot and the fact that someone else beat you in a video game so they get to take your stuff makes you so mad you literally just use a free kit so those slimy PVPers dont get a single thing, further weakening themselves to said PVPers and not even attempting to fight back.The issue is that they dont get that the lows have to be low for the highs to be high. If all I lose from my cryo encounter is my time, then me winning over the meta sweat team loses a fair amount of excitement. Since the GA tolerance for losing is so low, an extraction shooter will probably not find appeal (even if they literally hand out gear like candy).
>>571366307rpg systems about grinding for power do not mix well with competitive free for all pvp, it's an acquired taste. generally it makes people think the game is a pointless waste of time because they're farming for loot and upgrades, only to then lose it all via players or a seasonal wipe with nothing to show. and no, fucking people up for sake of it is not a hook, because every pvp game has that.so naturally, people will just play a pvp game with even playing fields and a simple goal. then they'll play pve games where grinding for power is the point. bungie has to pick a lane if they want mass appeal, not combine both into one.pic related is what people see in this genre
>>571362193>cryo fill cause i'm a masochist>it's just a vault 01 key anyway>get enough batteries but have shitty luck with clearance>go out into control and get into a fire fight with another team>i'm the only one that goes down and my two teammates are destiny dads holding corners but never actually doing anything>they manage to rez me and i'm expecting my mizzy to be gone>all they took was my vault 01 key and my purple shields>still have everything else except meds>move down the hallway and find 6 more bodies to recoup my meds>go into cargo because we're still sitting at 1.5 clearance at 9 minutes>hear an exfil in cargo spawn>later LOSERSit was annoying spectating them sit in a corner for 5 minutes debating whether they should peak the enemy team, while the enemy team was equally not pushing. it was the weirdest experience ever.
>>571366621>it's an acquired taste grew up playing EVE online so yeah I think thats where I get it from lmaoYour post actually illuminates a point where I think my real frustration lies. If destiny were still around to be the mass appeal franchise marathon could've continued on as a side project. Bungie insiders (granted my direct source of this is from hippy, but I know other insiders have said the same thing) say that marathon actually met internal expectations because they recognized its' niche. But now it being niche is not an option, its literally the company's only money maker now. The minority of people for who this game really struck gold now have to watch their game turn into a much cheaper destiny. That might be assuming too much but I think that is where this road is leading.
I hate how much this game pisses me off yet I still enjoy playing it despite that.
>>571367959same brother same
>>571369446Sometimes you get lucky and that white shield duo actually rapes the lobby and they leave with purple shields and you still have your blue
>>571366307I was rich beyond measure in Delta Force, pissing gear. The game throws free shit at you. Same with Arena Breakout infinite. My friend and I played for a month maybe and got bored, me due to there being practically no stakes as everythings thrown at you, and he because the stakes were too high (losing gear in any form)Perhaps bungchi want the hardcore audience to ride the game out intobeijng relevant like Tarkov and they have big plans for adding maps and.. maps
ded gaymewithout the pisstiny community propping your thread up like they did with slopathon's development cycle then this general would have already been forced by the mods into /vm/.trvthnvke
>>571362193I don't have a team so I don't do Cryo, for reasons you stated in your own post.I am not sure, but I don't think I even fucking like the map, fights on other maps are so much more interesting because there's actually room to move around, disengage, flank etc.Only way Cryo fill would be viable is if it was on a different matchmaking system than premades, but that's not gonna happen now does it?
>>571366621>pic relI'm listening to picrel from a distance, when he's done pushing the boulder up, I will shoot him in the back and tell everyone the boulder is mine, i placed it
I load into trios, I get all solos, only camping and griefingThis game is so fucked. I’m done.
>>571362193>The other 5% play the game but never step foot into cryo and just rook/shitkit spamthis is me
>third partied on outpost>ping them>gold shields>watch my whole team get taken down with icons next to their names>go to night marsh>some team in the distance>ping them>gold shields>can hear a key room going off at AI UplinkWhat is going on this season
>>571381951*Misriah icons
Why the fuck isn't there a weapon check on Cryo?Faggots filling their inventory with 5k worth of consumables should not be allowed to queue up.
>>571383437I’ve had this happen four times now. One group had two of the teammates do it. I don’t know why the game makes non-equipable loot have a value. Watching a teammate dump 28 spark leaves on the floor was silly.
>>571383907AND both of these players had clearly barely ever done Cryo before but were running around the map engaging players. So then they’d engage players, but then immediately start panicking because they didn’t know the level layout.
Would be fun if there were melee oriented UESC that rush you and try to sidestep your shots.
Why do only green shields get a reinforced variant?
>>571388561>he doesnt know
>>571388561Gold does too
I AMROOK
>>571362193On console mics are broken and they still havent fixed it
>>571390127How so?
>>571382525Shotguns work on stupid people, who don't move away when shooting. The TTK is fast right, you can shoot from medium range instead of staying close.
The game defaulted me to fucking solo again
I'm actually enjoying this season more it feels easier to me, I might actually get all the prio contracts done. Only 35 though and will probably never touch cryo
what is the next sponsored survival? it can't be outpost unless they block pinwheel (lmao). back to darsh? marsh? eventually I'd love if they'd do it on cryo with a nerfed loot pool so I can actually play that map, I'm too much of a casual to crew fill there and I don't want to waste your guys team if you get me as a teammate so I just stay out
>>571391635>I'm too much of a casual to crew fill there and I don't want to waste your guys team if you get me as a teammate so I just stay outwhy care about this? how do you think they learned the map? gotta leave the people pleasing tendencies behind>>571390684trio babey has to play the actual game for once
how do the LMG shields actually work? yesterday I went toe to toe with a rook with a green Retaliator with the shield up, fired first, but he fired maybe three shots at me with a V11 and took me down from a full green shield. I can't wrap my head around how he won that engagement, by all means I should have downed him first
>>571392219it's more that it will take consistent effort to learn and I don't have that much time to play the game these days
>>571393168I mean, you paid money for the game and the map, dude. You should at least pop in to Cryo once in a while to get your money's worth, or help clear your vault when it gets full
>>571383907Huh, I think that's a bug. You shouldn't be able to put salvage from your vault into your loadout - or at least, I don't think it was alowed previously.
>>571392419Shield has to be on, you have to be ADSing, and it only covers the upper body. (Apparently doesn't recharge over the course of a match either, which is kind of silly.)
>>571392419>how do the LMG shields actually work?It reduces the damage to your upper torso, it doesn't fully block damage. You should be next to a piece of cover, so it's harder to hit the rest of your body.
>Free kit should be good, I don't wanna build up a kit with my own hands
>>571396246>he doesnt know the method
They need to make every fucking gun 10x more louder so you can tell the gunfights from more far away, its fucking stupid.
As a casul time player, I like that this is a mercenary game, and not a shopping cart simulator(PvE looting)
https://youtu.be/CyODGX3ICmE
>Cryo map>Bring custom, cheap kit>Wait for people to shoot each others bubble shields>Then throw bombs at them and shootGame's all about timing and sound. You can be so far, Recon's scan won't reach you, and you still hear bubble shields getting shot.
>>571367832>say that marathon actually met internal expectationsI imagine that player retention and such is as expected, but >Tassi got from his insiders that launch numbers were quite under expectation, the game likely has a decently lower playercount than they thought they'd get. Perhaps those numbers were inflated a bit because of Arc's recent massive successMaking Marathon a hardcore PvP only game was always going to be a big gamble, and unsurprisingly it failed. Had they only changed one element for their largely casual PvE audience by making a casual PvP or a hardcore PvE game it would have been a good fit, but both was too much
>>571367832>But now it being niche is not an option, its literally the company's only money maker now.Dummies fail to understand, that how much money Bungie makes with Marathon doesn't matter anymore. It will only matter with the next game, which will be created for the next Playstation system.Bungie does not exist for Marathon right now, Bungie only exists for the PS6(six).Sony wants the studio to try again and release content for the PS6. This is the only reason Bungie wasn't shut down.
>>571400231>Bungie does not exist for Marathon right nowIt actually is, literally at the present time, with how supposedly everyone from the D2 team has been moved to Marathon or other PS teamsI don't think you're wrong with how that's the eventual goal, but right now the impression is that it's all hands on deck to "fix" Marathon (maybe the whole idea is to manufacture that perception)I imagine right now they might be spitballing what the next game will be with heavy oversight from Sony, and within the year will probably start production. Whether they poach a large part of the Marathon team or not will depend on how well the game was managed to be turned around
I wish a very painful and slow death to the retards who steal yellow keys in outpost and don't even bother to use them to open armories
>>571401515They probably just died lmao.
>>571400231>>571401080Going by a vast majority from ex-Bungie employees and even some who still or did work there, the layoffs are already happening, they just can't talk about them for a bit and are under some NDA.Marathon Team has 500 people working on it and are getting a 100 from the 900+ team that was on Destiny 2 while the rest are going to other Sony dev teams.
>>571401080>>571401727Hiroki Totoki and Hermen Hulst cancelled ports and said PlayStation is back to making exclusives. Marathon getting fixed doesn't matter, they can stop fixing it and will still have to produce a new game for the PS6.Doesn't matter how many are laid off, it can be an Astro Bot(medium sized game) but they will develop one. Bungie's logo is not getting scrapped because a console is coming, Marathon does not matter.
>>571402075hmmm, almost like it'd be worth making Marathon a good, wider appealing game so people can play it on their PS6
>>571401515Im literally too retarded to remember where yellow keys spawn or what they are for
>>571402224They can promote the PS6 library with $40 games that aren't copy-paste Ubisoft titles. Number of exclusive games goes up, money number goes up from PS Store selling multiplatform third party games.Playstation makes more money than Nintendo and Xbox combined, FYI. They're the second Valve right now
>>571402437At least two spawn randomly in each POI but each POI has like 6-8 potential spawn points for them. You just have to hit them up and listen for the jingle of the box.
>>571402075>>571402224>>571402685I can't wait for the psychopathic, General Dollar American Psycho avatarfag and other psychos in here have to come to the realization that they're gonna eventually have to go down the PvE route if they like it or not. Maybe then this general can finally die in peace. That or they start suckling on the dick of Modern Warfraes extraction shooter
>waste time and money trying to transform Marathon into a casual PvE gameOr>Develop a new game for the PS6, and not release it on other systemsGuess what Sony's gonna do, /mg/
>>571403218>I can't wait for the psychopathic, General Dollar AmericanI love you too, /mg/ friend
For Marathon, the money for season 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 has been spent. It's done. You'll get a season six patch. Not PvE "evolution", no big shift.
>>571403452>Let's have the studio that has ruined its fanbase's trust with the past two games release an exclusive singleplayer only game on a new system they'll have to drop a grand forThing better be the sauciest thing in existence or Bungie is straight up getting slaughtered
>>571403978bro just psychopost, it's funnier and it makes you look less retarded
>>571404083At this point Bungie needs to prove their worth to touch anything else my bet. Especially if they now have to answer to the Japanese CEO.I do wonder if those leaks last week had any merit about Season 2 being made by the B-Team and they have all that fan-fiction tier fixes and updates.Think I saved it somewhere if anyone wants to see it, I still think it was just pretend.
you liked night marsh? where we took dire marsh and made it dark and did almost nothing else? well, fans, all ten of you, we've got something else just as exciting! imagine perimeter but with more grass. i know. pretty crazy. we even surprised ourselves. this is our earth shattering update to perimeter. we worked hard on this. we put grass on the walls and added 1 new room for you to grind. please enjoy your brand new treadmill.
The issue with Night Marsh is there was an implication in the promotional material that there would be way more dynamism from the AI and that the map would be particularly oppressive to traverse through compared to Day Marsh. Turns out there's literally nothing out there in between POIs. Husks have static spawns and never patrol while Reverbs just don't seem to exist because they somehow bugged their spawn rate after disabling sponsored narsh. UESC density has barely changed and are just a vehicle to farm T3 cert chests. The scariest thing about night marsh is wondering if there are actually other players on the map because you certainly will never hear anyone.
>>571403978Everything up to S5, even maybe S6 is developed sure, but that doesn't mean they aren't working on big, additional changes for them. They're probably porting the shit out of whatever they can from D2 right now. The game by then is probably going to be wholly different from what they had originally planned
>>571405062They also hinted at and showed a fucking compiler wandering around too at night. Conveniently you can't fucking find that concept of the compiler wandering in the distance of the night marsh concept art piece.
If this game dies before I get to fight the Pfhor I will be a bit mad.
>>571404459>I do wonder if those leaks last week had any merit about Season 2 being made by the B-TeamSeason was greenlit before release, there's no B-team
>>571404110But I like being retarded, it makes me better at video games. My mind is outside of the box, Marathon players cannot read me, they never know what I'm doing next 8=====Э
>arachne kit daythank you charter
>>571405501>>571404459I almost wonder if S2 was just intentionally a bit underwhelming because a lull would be expected in this period anyways and they could make a sort of "comeback" with a much stronger more content stacked S3
>>571406247Oh, that's a good point Anon.Most dev teams are months to years ahead in production. So they're probably already scrambling for Seaosn 4 and 5 if they even exist.
>>571404720>night marsh>ok guys we're gonna take perimeter and make it less dangerous, make purple and gold loot much more plentiful and easy to get, and include it in the new pve modeaight
I want PvE to fail in Marathon, and then will enjoy PvPvE in MW4 extraction
>>571409549And I want you to become incapable of posting in this thread. Doesn't really mean either of us will get our wishes fulfilled, huh?
>>571367126>>571362193You bitches can't expect to be carried. You gonna carry that load or stay the fuck out of where the actual players are.
stupid buggy game told me about the same survey again
>>571381951>What is going on this seasonYou're way behind the gear curve. Some other teams are at the "give no fucks about anything but your death" level. Adjust like the weak scavenger you need to be, or die a lot. Possibly both>>571400231>>571367832We'll see after the layoffs.
>>571383437>>571383907>>571384668>Faggots filling their inventory with 5k worth of consumables should not be allowed to queue up.Those are possibly part of a 6 or 9 man team that didn't get with their friends and throwing the game.
>>571406247>>571407280Sounds like pure cope anon. They should have known well before launch in the public beta that their fucking jobs are on the line. >>571367832There is no way in hell they launched this and expected to be mogged by extract shooters at 1/10th their budget. They expected to at LEAST be vaguely competitive with the leaders.
>>571383907>28 sparkleavesgame doesn't allow putting salvage in your pack to start a run you're lying
Please help me show Bungie how much we care about Marathon, please upload pictures of your cuts and tag Bungie employees and accounts on all social media you follow.
>>571415407I still go back years ago when people started hearing leaks about Marathon from private, close door playtests where they invited dozens of "competitive" Tarkov players back around 2018-2019ish and after they tried it they said, after asked "would you switch from Tarkov to Marathon and play this instead?" they all said no, all of them
>>571416656>negrobot suspiciously absent
>>571414420nonplayer detected. you don't actually play this game.
Do you level way faster in trios than you do solos?
>>571418029Yes because of the shared XP. You just end up doing more in trios generally too
>>571415407I realize it sounds like cope and expected a post as much in reply, but to me it seems like a logically sound decision of exploiting emotional lull periods and big comebacks (it's so over, we're so back) that come with live service games to keep players invested and talking about it beyond the scope of just unimpactful consistent single seasons. Don't forget that Bungie are all about manipulating the consumer, they already did it with the battlepass on releaseI could also be entirely wrong and season 3 will also be underwhelming, only time will tell
>>571404720I'm cool with that, as long as it's just side content to a full blown new map.
>>571418430The problem with that is you only get one first impression. There are gamers out there who will never give Bungie the benefit of the doubt again thanks to vaulting
>>571417736I don't know about you but I prefer my games without niggers. I can deal with the chinks and spics to a degree. Especially in fan art.If you aren't bothered by niggers in your media than you're a cuck, let alone befriending them in real life.
>>571419113My friend said "from now on if a video is shared to the chat with a black in the thumbnail, Iwomnt watch it".The chat has improved massively.
>>571410707>Doesn't really mean either of us will get our wishes fulfilled, huh?The game already failed entirely, it's very likely the PvE experiment will be scrapped, it'll achieve nothing.
>>571417736Artist probably drew them up and then realized his extant facial features were so stereotypical it would have come off as racist and just removed him. Idk why Bungo made him look like that in particular.
>>571418854They definitely fucked up hard with Marathon, and even with a hard change towards a more casual friendly experience and addition of PvE modes, it's going to be an uphill battle. You only get one first impression, but you do get a second chance with "Marathon has changed now, it's good!" if they fuck that up though, it's over. Hopefully they don't try to pull that with s3 because it'll probably be too early for that
>>571419540>"Marathon has changed now, it's good!"It's a snoozefest with the same maps, but no players attacking you*ftfy
Maybe when the PvE mode comes out I'll turn the in match music back on. What a waste of a good OST.
>>571422341?????????? Just go play solo and murder like a thousand bots or whatever you wanna do, you never see anyone anyway?
>>571409549It already failed, by not being built into the release of the game
Are free kits randomized from person to person? I just ran across a grey kit with a magnum, then another one with a V11, and I have the Traxus one with a volt thrower
>>571427663Yeah each day you get a random kit (possibly the same one even)
Why the fuck is Tassi vagueposting?
>>571429931I interpret it as them pivoting away from extraction shooter and going all in on PvE and other alternate modes like BR maybe
>>571429931Cutscenes and a campaign, no loot for multiplayer. Movie game company, movie game dev, movie game console.
>>571430459>going all in on PvEIn your dreams, faggot ass pussy
>>571431665Day of the PvE is coming, extraction troon
>>571431753Kill yourself shitter
Nerfing heat grenade damage was retarded genuinely what were they thinking
>>571433285Honestly, most of the balance changes feel over-correcting and there's been only one season this far.I just began to play like two weeks ago and losing faith.
>>571433285I think the idea is that the heat grenade isn't a frag. If the heat grenade did high damage and overheated it would just be Frag nade+
all the grenades are worthless besides the frag. I guess spamming the others are better than nothing. flechette might be able to cover a door
>>571435403not even fucking closeAll the grenades are really useful for various reasons, shutting down abilities with EMP is strong as fuck and chem nades are great chokepoint defense (not as good as flechettes but still good)even the heat grenade which is probably the weakest is still pretty good, overheating people is a big deal. All their effects are great. Problem is two frags kills everyone.
>>571429931Why does this Paul guy talk like he's got insider knowledge?
>>571431753Based. Can't wait.
>>571436505because he does
>>571433883>most of the balance changes feel over-correctingThat's Bungie for you!
Some of the design decisions in this game make me wonder if literally anyone played an extraction shooter before at all or they just like all collectively watched General Sam videos and was like "yeah that sounds fun"
Marathon got me into trying out the halo series starting from combat evolved. Halfway through it and I am genuinely impressed how a game so bad got popular even considering the whole babby's first fps (console) game thing.
>>571429931If they redesign the entire game and leave extraction shooter shit as a side mode nobody gives a shit about I would genuinely be fucking shocked. The fossils at bungie do not seem capable of self-reflection, they always seem to double down on their bad decisions.
>>571438107>I played an almost 25 year old game and thought it suckedok zoomer, thanks for your input
>>571436797Game was solved and died while you were waiting, pve cock sucker
>>571439628PvEchads are going to replace you extractsissies in your own game and there's nothing you can do about it but piss and scream
>>571439050Not all 25 year old games suck.
>>571439894My games aren't as dead as marathon
>>571440265no and neither does halo but that's not my point, people like to play old games and hold them to the standard of modern games instead of viewing them in the context of when they were released. you didn't enjoy halo 1? no shit, you didn't play it when it was relevant and when there weren't a lot of other console FPS games that competed with it
>>571440659Gaylo always sucked
>>571440659Why wouldn't I hold old games to a similar standard? or put another way why wouldn't I compare modern games to what came before?They aren't some fleeting idea that can no longer be experience and are open to nostalgia or the fog of ages. I can boot up Halo, SC1, Thief, Crash Bandicoot, Tekken 1 and so on at any time and get a actual tangible experience.
>>571414420>You bitches can't expect to be carriedMarathon is a wild ride, if you played, you'd know.
>>571405965has anyone gotten MIDA free kit? haven't seen it once all season. it's all arachne and sekiguchi back to back.
>>571441916Image is copied from a reddit post
>>571440659Was about to go to sleep but since you responded sincerely here I am.I disagree. I was on the fence before but now I'm confident Halo is a bad game that got popular solely due to chance and being at the right place at the right time.I am directly comparing it to a number of other late 90's early 00's shooters I'm replaying, or trying out as I missed them at the time (such as C&C Renegade). Even unfinished crap like Blood 2 has more life to it than Halo:CE because somehow that game is bad all the way from the absolute dogshit guns, spongy enemies, literal copy-pasted levels, and the most shocking of all - a FOV of 50. The only novelty, the vehicles, is completely busted by the controls and awful weapons tied to them.I mean, I can somewhat see how it would look impressive on a console, figuring it out with friends, enjoying online shit for the first time, but I refuse to view that abomination as a good game because I have zero nostalgia tied to it. In fact I found it so bad my initial plan to give its successors a try as well mostly evaporated.
>>571442107proof?
>>571442052It's purely random and you can roll the same kit in a row. I got it at least one day because I got the skin for Sentinel
>>571442734feels bugged, like everything in this game.
>>571442107>admits that redditors are better than him at the game.
WHERE IS ALL THE STERILIZED BIOSTRIPPING?
>>571443207I'm a redditor, we're indeed better than 4chan sissies
>>571443569up my ass
They need to fucking do something about how ridiculous controller aimbot is. It's actually unfair after having tested them back to back. I am so sick of some Xbox mong being able to delete me at a ridiculous angle because the game aims for him, when he should be at a disadvantage position wise.
>>571443918chill the 20 people still playing on xbox will get tired of the game soon
>>571443918Controller game, developed by controller devs, released by controller publisher
>>571444620least homoerotic snoy meme
>>571444825Don't make me flex these arms bby
What is the right way to nerf D54? Remove it from the armory, or break its kneecaps?
>>571444825>>571445634https://files.catbox.moe/u844dw.png
>>571445634Drop it's RPM to 650 and reduce it's range to 18m.
>>571445763yuck
Why can't I turn off cross play on PC? I don't want to play with console players
>>571436505His track record with his employee leaks is pretty much perfect. >>571438195The only way this would be possible if it were a 99 percent thing that was thrown out by the Zieg to go full extraction shooter. We'll see what they got.>>571441916>>571417779You don't have a team. You don't have the gear. Your play style needs to compensate, or you will keep getting raped..
>>571443569Hauler
>>571445634Range reduction and adjustment to pause between burst (nudge it so it's slightly longer) should do it. You can maybe fiddle with headshot multiplier or something, but I don't really like this option.Having said that I don't think it's that much stronger than a Bully? You want a problem child, look at goldmod BRRT.
>>571445634>nerf what i died toyou'll just die again! leave it like it is and buff other guns
>>571448031>dude just buff everything else lmaoI hate retards who say this
>>571448172>retardsyou're mad because i aim better i guess
>tfw the thread is so dead I have to post my pictures again for the 78th time
how long do the quests continue on? I'm still early in the game only level 23 and i still haven't even started two of the factions. will they be adding new quests and story content as the game goes on?
>>571446660>rapedoh it's just you. can you get a trip so I can filter your dumbass already? thanks
>>571449475NuCal, Traxus, MIDA and SekGen should all have 3 little quest arcs to go through. CyAc and Arachne don't really get anything outside of 1 or 2 introductory quests They added a few new ones for MIDA and Traxus for Night Marsh this season so they're probably gonna add more for S3.
So what the actual fuck is Marathon doing with 400 people working on it? Marketing is dogshit and almost non exitant and I doubt they need hundreds upon hundreds to make those maps
Huh, just had a friendly rook on sponsored perimeter. First time in tons of runs
>>571454101I don’t know. I know that marathon would have about 140 people max working on it, majority 3D artists for the levels.And that’s a high ball number. If you were tight, marathon could be made with 70 people. 30 3D artists5 gameplay designers5 UI designers10 people for marketing and live ops5 server programmers10 gameplay programmers5 UI programmersHandful of producers and managersAnother 15 for general business and upkeep, localisationWhat are all the rest of the people doing? I have no idea.
>>571454101Spending millions of dollars on higher quality black hair, and trying to get 4chan shut down. Also possibly whatever the fuck Mr T is hinting at.
>>571454708You forgot QA (Bungie did too)
>>571455146Didn't they fire them all last year or something?
>>571455398no, two years ago. bungie hasnt had a qa team since before the final shape dlc released.
>>571455746>>571455398Thats completely fucking retarded what the hell
>>571455863thank snoy, upper management bungo, and parsons anon.they all had a part to play in this fuck up.
>>571455746Even with no QA team they didn't notice how fucking disgusting the D54 was from their own internal testing?
anyone for some chill sponsored perimeter runs? duo or trio
>>571456584They don't play the game
>>571456584Studios do this deliberately just to shake up the meta. It’s the TCG/gacha model, you want people using the latest things because internals say people just complain if it’s all the same (even though it’s still Misriah + bully)
>sunday night>cant crack 11kgrim
>>571455863It's also not true at all.There is a QA team. they're just retarded. No idea why anon felt the need to fib when the truth is more damning.
>>571460949Those responsible.
36 hours until we find out if the season can be salvaged.
>>571456939>anyone for some chill sponsored perimeter runs?add Rise_GKM, I'll be on the game from midnight till noon. Eastern time
>>571457623Nah the bully is sidelined by the D54, it just has a grossly better ttk and it's so much easier to find light ammo than it is to find heavy ammo. Bully w/ gold mod is still pretty crazy but desu I'd rather have a purped out B54.
>>571461663what happens in 36 hours?
>>571462374Tuesday patch/news/cope update
>>571462451Nice, I hope they don't nerf Assassin. Both of his abilities deactivate enemy Aim-assist for free, easy to gape any level of copetroller gear
>kill a duo trying to push my guarded exfil call in because they didn't know my buddy was doing overwatch with a sniper>he breaks the triage's shields, I flank and down>the recon is freaking out, trying to avoid the commander and me>pop out of the little building/pump room and down him as he spazz jumps
>>571438195>Leave behind the game's current audience>New audience doesn't appear out of spite for the treatment of the previous PvE gameBrilliant plan.
>>571431753>extraction troonWhat are you even doing here?
>>571465483He thinks he's baiting the schizo, while the schizo is using him to bump dead game's thread
EMP grenades should disable bubble shields
>>571462451>tuesday patch copemy bloom reserves are at an all time low. bungie’s pushed so many literally nothing tuesday patches they’ve conditioned me into pure doomer. tuesday patch will have fixes* for two maybe three bugs that bother people and nothing else. content release schedule is a rigid three month cycle and any meaningful change has to be bound into new season updates.
>>571472113A G R E E Dor at the very least do a huge chunk of damage to them far more than any other source.
I also never ever activate birds, I slow motion walk next to them
>>571457623>meta shake up>wstr is replaced with mizzy which behaves nearly identically>bully is replaced by d54 which behaves nearly identically>night marsh is nearly fjrhagdkfjagbungie wants to make counter strike so bad. just make one thing and never change it, the dream.
>>571472940Marathon's gameplay should not be changed a lot, it's very good.A game of chess doesn't need to be changed either, catch my drift
>>571465361>the game's current audiencethere is none, that's the point
>>571474748Im the audience faggot now load up another run to feed me your loot
>>571472113s3 they might just take bubble shields out back and shoot themI wouldnt be that mad desu
>>571475080Good, it's gay as fuck. And get rid of the quick grenade shit, tired of the meta being "chuck 5 grenades as an opening salvo then Mizzy Slide into the enemy"
maybe the real extraction gameplay was extracting to other games along the way
>>571442117Halo was a good console FPS in 2007. It was not a good FPS.
>>571475445Sentinel is such a confusing character cause I see the idea that he was meant to counter it, but they made that part of the kit his ult and by the time you realize you're being nade spammed you have lost 80% of your health and they're finishing you off with mizzys
>>571475912Yep, ironically the system makes perfect sense with a more deliberate grenade system like Tarkov. Even if you had one setup it it gets completely overwhelmed instantly and then the other two people's grenades will just come soaring in.
>>571476015you can overwhelm the trophy system? Full rework this damn shell man he has way too cool of a design to be this freaking useless.
>>571460395the game is unironically in free fall, kind of sad. I wonder if sony will shut the game down sooner than expected despite earlier promises
>>571476248Yep, it's pretty shit. They couldn't make it just auto-negate grenades for a duration because it would be insta locked even harder than some of the other shells, especially in Cryo. Hell it would probably be a three stack situation.
>>571475912Ideally you're supposed to just throw the prime down the second you start a fight, so even if they don't throw the grenades you're at least providing the handeling buff to you/your team, but the range on it is so fucking short without cores that it just feels like you're better off taking those initial "start of fight seconds" to just shoot the fuckers in the face>Enemy pushing youIf you haven't pre-set traps or your prime then you don't have the time and you just need to get ready to shoot. Most of the time you don't even have the time to throw up the radar since it takes a long while to get up too and gives a sound queue for the enemy that you're vunerable and need to die now.>Pushing the enemyIf they're on the defensive they can just shoot the snare if you try to throw it near/close to them. Throwing the prime down means basically nothing since you're likely to just move out of the radius. Really the only advantage he has going is that he can reliably throw up the radar and use it to try and track which corners to peek first.I still like him but he's a very awkward character to make work in this game since everything is so moment to moment and rewards shells and plays that are instantaneous and reactionary by nature. My trio have tried running an all sentinel trio team multiple times and locking down POI's with snares, claymores and shotguns but the best shells in the game can just power slide past them or dash past them or grapple past them and fuck you (or just use a signal jammer and brute force an entry), so even in his ideal circumstance he can still fall short. I've been able to throw up some crazy 1v3's with him though when the stars align but it just kinda sucks that for 70% of the time you use him you feel like you're better off playing someone else.
>>571450738More whining and bitching. You were warned about what to expect this season vs last, you didn't make any adjustments. You got rectally ravaged, and then you blame your teammates.
>free week is great, lots of fun fights, feels competitive and balanced>Buy the game>Free week ends. Everything gets a little sweatier. Nbd still holding our own as a trio. Lower survival rate but learning maps and getting better loot when we do live>Progress to full blue kits for most runs after a couple weeks of casual play at night>Suddenly purple shields and bubbles galore even on fucking perimeterThe casual experience isn't great if I'm being honest. We wiped multiple squads almost every round tonight only to get deleted by bubble spammers near the end every time. I know it's just how it goes sometimes but damn. Some people don't have the time to be farming up all that gear, even though it's basically free from sponsored survival. I'm not going to cry for the removal of anything but some kind of sbmm might not hurt.>t.never been inside pinwheel
>>571478491>Retard arm poster feels the urge to flame other better players because he gets made fun of all the time>>571478931You've unfortunately picked a pretty rough season to start in anon. Lot of players have been able to leap frog super far ahead cause of some loot exploits and free handouts from Bungie. Hopefully you can get some lucky games in and catch up>t.never been inside pinwheelA valid strat is to rush green keys and to just immediately get pinwheel open. Lots of people dick around outside looking for reds and to clear out the map but if you open pinwheel early you can funnel everyone up there since they're all drawn like moths the second they see the alert
>>571478931Just a consequence of the game having a relatively low pop + small maps + vets knowing all the good spots/spawns for gear + meta becoming even more degen than S1.
Need more sentinel and assassin fan art
Bump
Man oh man, I love being sneaky.
>>571494310>42k>dire marsh nighthow the fuck?
>>571495146Solo gold key. Which was shit, btw.
You won't exfil, fuck all of you
>>571495731No mizzy so it's shit? You got some good shields
>>571498305I have enough Mizzies. For how rare Gold keys are, yes, it's shit.My trio has a combined 1000 hours in this game and we've only seen five gold keys. Each time, it's 3-5 gold items including valuables (LMAO) and a single Salvage. So yeah, it's shit for how much work these things usually are.
had a 13k rook run and a 16.3k rook run back to back
Pvpers raped this game for 5 months.Normalfag pve slugs had if for 0 days.It's ok to shut it down now
>>571478931>t.never been inside pinwheelhow?after you wipe two teams you are usually alone to wipe clean every wing + red room + command wingthe meta for greenshields and free kit niggers is just to bring 3 energy amps + reconyou use every energy amp per team and wipe them easily, purples are annoying but you will get lucky and git gud the more you playmy advise to your noob trio squad?have one of you cradle energy max and main recon + use energy amps and learn outpostyou will be swimming in so much purple stuff you will get disgusted with blues
>>571503569>newfag trioThey're not winning a fight on Outpost lol
>>571503351My favorite part about PvPers as a whole but especially in Marathons case is when they go "where did all the players go!?"Gee I wonder. Only the cringe edgelords enjoy PvP so much that they chase out everyone else and kill them game.
>>571503756i think the issue with s2 is the fact that everyone who sticked around post s1 played outpost as rook so much that the map became almost second nature and yes that included getting your shit pushed inso now oldfags know how to rook it up and farm weapons, steal the last box in command wing from purple teams, etc... and just overall not fucking die, you get cash pretty fast that waywith newfags who only play as trios and never get to explore/or learn to play rat style they don't manage to make much progress because you are bound to get held back by one of your team mates who is a poorfag
>>571503883Good morning. No new map, no new story content like missions, codex, cut-scenes. It's the developer's fault, pvpers dindu nuffin.
>>571504715Newfag trios should play sponsored modes to restock fast. Collect health packs, barter salvage like biomass, green & blue weapon attachments.After a day of sponsored, they should have a full vault of decent blue guns. Problem is, they're gonna have a bad time using the decent guns in PvP scenarios, people will move better than them and outgun them.
what's holding newfag players from progressing is perimeter, there is fuck all in that map
>>571505345Queue times mainly I imagine, with a mix of other factors. Honestly with most of the players I've spoken to, the three things that turned them away/pissed them off the most was>Loot gap (why am I consistently running into teams every game with better loot than me wtf how am I supposed to learn/fight on equal footing)>Queue time (It took me 10 minutes to get a game on prime time and I've died 2 minutes into the game wtf this sucks fuck this im wasting my time)>Loot rarity (I barely get to use the guns I actually want to and I don't get to play with any cool toys wtf this shit sucks)I genuinely feel bad for new players because it was already hard enough learning the game with other players who were equally as inexperienced at season start, I genuinely couldn't imagine jumping into it at this season. Most vets are still sticking with the game and occupy 80% of the lobbies and have an even better idea of what to do. As Bungie said in the dev blog, the average player now is at the same loot levels as players in week 11/12 of season 1, which is basically end of season and that was posted at the end of week 2 of this season.Since most of the playerbase is vets, no one queues up for Perimeter because, as you said, there's fuck all there, but I do know there's usually one or two purple/gold squads that queue Perimeter specifically to kill players that are equipped with shittier gear. Combined with getting dunked on repeatedly by these teams and then also finding fuck all on the "beginner" map when they DO survive, I can't imagine a lot of players are feeling encouraged to keep trying.
>>571505345To me, and this may not necessarily be a large part but a part nonetheless. Being I was a Art Major and went into concept design for a decade the visuals of Perimeter are way to muted and boring and not enough color. You also have the fact that large parts of it, the parts seperating each POI are muddy brown, greys, and blacks with to few minor POIs with a little more color in them. Also the amount of viewing ratio to the mountains walls on the pathways to POIs are to high in some areas which adds to this.Then the POI themselves usually stay a singular color, color code based off of real life, which is fine, honestly, but there's not enough of it.What really bugs me and is just another thing added to this is that the concept art for Perimeter, the ones where its OVERGROWN and has gorgeous amounts of greens? THAT should have been in the map, that has more bright colors - and for most people, not all certain bright colors and color combinations, especially those for outside trigger endorphins, dopamine to a degree, and other positive or positive adjacent triggers in our brains.Muted colors, especially those associated with rain and don't have the bright colors you'd see in rainforests or in nature makes you go straight into sleepy mode instead of relaxed mode. Rain in the morning and afternoon where there's still light, even if its overcast with bright greens, yellows, anything associated with flowers and such forth makes you relaxed and not necessarily directly tired which to me would be more exciting because you dont want to be relaxed in a Extraction Shooter, its a great clash of emotions where as sleepy, tired colors associated with sleeping or weather closer to night trigger faster when you're stressed and getting gun downed Obviously there are other factors but nonetheless Perimeter from its color pallets to the size of the map to just how its made is not what you want new players to experience
>>571506282>consistently running into teams every game with better loot than me wtf how am I supposed to learn/fight on equal footingYou told them not to fight fair, and to attack when teams take damage from UESC or other players, right? You should've explained, that you sucker punch the stronger person, and keep stomping on his head until it's jelly.
>>571506282That's exactly what happened to my friends I got to play.They did Perimeter a few times and then dropped the game instantly. To long a queue to the point where they were in queue longer than actually playing and when they played they were always up against purple and yellow kited groups.The other thing is, is that for most normal and casual gamers, myself included - with how fast you die there isn't enough time to start learning how to approach or even play the game because by the time you even begin to form a concept of what you should be doing, doing wrong, or how to approach something you're already dead so nothing is learned or gained
>>571506786Damn baby girl I'd draw some inspiring things with you
i queue up on perimeter because its a fun map to fight on
>>571506927>"You told them literally the most obvious and unhelpful advice you could give them right?"This might actually shock you but the new people playing this game aren't THAT retarded. You might actually be more retarded for assuming they somehow don't know that. The problem is that they don't know how to set up for positions to capitalise on that shit, because they need to know>the map>spawn spots>how to avoid making noise from various sources>be aware of HOW much noise they make so they can mitigate that>recognise when players are nearby or are being attacked by bots/other players>understand what their weapon actually does (half the fucking players playing marathon don't even know how the range or aim assist stat works)>know not to ping the recon>be confident with actually pvp'ing other players (something new players don't get to practice a lot cause of the reasoning in >>571507072 )Telling newbies to just kill people when they're distracted means nothing cause yeah, no shit obviously? But there's lots of situations where you don't get to do that. You can't just feed them some random room temperature chuuni bullshit and expect that to actually inform them on how to play.
>>571507192i queue up on perimeter because i like to go in data wall and pretend im in nonas giant worm insides being born
Sponsored survival players split up often. That's when I come in. I take nice blue bully, blue shield, health packs, purple salvage. Nice blue extended magazines for the M77 and LMGs. Sponsored survival players work for me. You loot for me, provide for me. You complete events, I loot you and exfil.
>>571511232wheres ur webms?
>reinstall marathon>queue>sit staring at a black screen for a week>wonder what i'm doing>uninstallmaybe next time, bungie. good luck with the layoffs.
>>571513102Where do you live that you're not finding games within 3 mins?
>>571512061What do you wanna see, purple or blue shields ripped away on sponsored?
All 3 on sponsored had blue shields just now and I kiled them but it's like 3 mins, that webm won't work
>>571513102>good luck with the layoffs.Bungie is not going anywhere until they release a new game, for new Piss Six. Every Sony studio exist for the console first, not for maintaining a game. Until everyone releases a new exclusive, Sony studios are effectively immortal(!)
Layoffs at a Sony studio means the next game will not be multiplatform. It doesn't mean a studio is getting shut down.
He's right behind me, isn't he?
>>571505345>what's holding newfag players from progressing is massive anal rape.,
>Tuesday patch tomorrow
>>571521378Morning Marsh bros
Other than the grenade indicator do grenades actually make a sound when you throw them? I feel like a big reason grenade spam meta is so persistent is because it's easy to shotgun out 5 grenades and there's no obvious sound cue for it other than it exploding at your feet.
>>571515641I'm retarded. Is this satire?
I am considerably poorer than I was last season, and it's all thanks to the Cradle.
>>571521378this one will save the game for sure. 200k peak incoming.
Does anyone have that Vandal edit from when there was leaked gameplay(?) footage before release and someone took a frame where she's running in a bit in the distance but it's edited to make her look even more stupid by squishing her down and making her shorter and making her shoes even bigger that people would use when calling the designs dei wokeslop?
>every single team even in Perimeter is fully geared with meta loadouts and purple+ shields
>>571531742shoes too big and woke
>>571533642I've given up trying to do any of the contracts or what little story we have, I can't get anything done now. Haven't capped a single faction to VIPhttps://www.truetrophies.com/n28088/playstation-gameplay-chart-week-ending-june-21st-2026
I just had my 2nd raid at the same place in the tutorial and saw a guy at extract but he vanished while I tried to kill him. I diedtryigng to then leave via guarded extract but crawled in and got oit anyway. Im fucked in real raids arent i.
>>571533642>>571537459
>>571537873Were you grey shield? Bots can hit hard if you are exposed to several of them
>>571533642Are we playing the same game? I just got out of a series of Outpost and Day Marsh games where most players were green or freekits with smattering of blues.
>>571539627Another shitter here.I think I'm one of the few who can confirm and or deny this too. I'm horrible at this game, maybe three times a week I can get a successful exfil. I have almost 1k hours in this game too (since Season 1)However, I'm Level 78 on the Season Pass and I butt into almost exclusively yellow kitted players with the off-chance of purples every now and again. Everyone in my queues are fucking nuts, either my team and the two players I'm with wipe every other team out in under a minute or I'm part of a team who gets wiped in under a minute. Doesn't matter the map, maybe time of day (I'm East Coast in the United States) and usually play around late afternoon for maybe five hours, if thatThe worse is Perimeter tooI am not, absolutely not going against players my own skill level at all, not even a mix. I might get white kits to blue kits on the weekends maybe once a week.
>1k hours in less than 6 months
>>571539410Green shield but I was getting hit from all sides
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE ANOMALOUS REVERBS? NOT A SINGLE ONE SEEN SINCE WEEK 1
>>571429931Why do you think? From here on out 100% of Bungie's efforts are going towards appealing to people who don't like or want Marathon. They've already got your money, now's the time to pivot hard.
yoooo check out this sick marathon clip https://x.com/MonsoonGG/status/2068462462803099874
this game's performance is still so bad. Wasted 15 minutes of my life in a solo match only for the game to stutter as soon as I saw my first player and I died even though I had the drop on him and he was fucking grey shield
Bungie really took a look at season 1 rook and said>no, it's too fun to play! make it shit!
>>571298358I DONT KNOW WHY
>>571544945Ahh Apex. It's a shame it's a "competitive" shooter that still has 20 hz. servers.
>>571547251>it's a "competitive" shooter that still has 20 hz. servers.Say sike big dog.
>>571547358https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/apex-legends/news/servers-netcode-developer-deep-diveIt's been 5 years since this blogpost, but I don't think they upgraded their infrastructure since then. EA doesn't care because people still dump money into that game for skins and heirlooms (e.g. fidget spinner knives, think CSGO)IIRC, even Fortnite has experimented with increasing a game instance's tickrate when there are fewer players remaining on the map.
>>571340023Refund included?
>>571547668Yeeesh
>>571347853Shitter lobby, your friends are probaly still in those
>>571364964Your shitty big dick mode will still be accesable, so why the crying bitch?You and all the other greasy niggas can now take turns on running a train on each other while i can finally play my games the way it was allways ment to be in life:Free from rapping niggas.
>>571548764just shoot the niggas?
>>571550217I dont asociate with niggas, and my bullets and nervs are wasted on them.I will just gate them out, with a nice white singleplayer mode.God i love gated communities.
>>571548125When do shitter lobbies end? I still get matches where I get players with similarly bad skill to me even at level 100+
I've been playing the og Marathons and they kinda suck desu
>>571553415the level design sucks donkey dick but other than that they are cool. also the jumping is stupid.
>>571553448I guess? The overall sameness of the enemy behavior and attack patterns is kinda lame along with having the worst assault rifle everThe dual magnums is fun tho
>>571553951>the worst assault rifle everyou take that back!!!
>>571553951>the worst assault rifle everOverrun is from OG Marathon?
Might call it quits here. been playing nearly every day since the game came out. there's not enough to do really, there needs to be a few more maps.
>grinding out contracts to farm rep in sponsored>find purple salvage>have to stay the full 20 mins instead of just killing myself to grind through contracts fastertruly the worst
Do we know how the blue UESC box alerts work? I don't understand if you're supposed to hear an alert for yourself or just other players, or if it's an occurring alarm until you leave the PoI. It seems inconsistent.
>>571558410it's basically pic related but for looting>ok i'm just gonna go in, do contract, leave>well there's a secured resource right here, could have something>i may as well check this supply drop while i'm at it, since i got a cryo key that one time>found a green backpack, guess i'd better use to to get some salvage out
>>571559504Basically. Whenever I just want to scan data cards and kill UESC suddenly a wall safe with a good Dire Marsh key is at my spawn and some blue salvage I need for an upgrade, and then next thing I know I'm sitting in a corner or running around the POI's checking for other safe spawns to pass the time>>571558628You talking about secured resources? I'm pretty sure their audio + some other stuff is bugged at the moment and just plays when you get within ear shot. Typically the alarm is only supposed to play when the hack is actually being done
>>571557875we just had our first sub 10k day because of youstupid fuck
>>571560218LMAOBUNGIE FORGOT TO TURN ON THEIR BOTS
>>571560142>You talking about secured resources?I mean the "Unauthorized runner in the area" alert.
>>571560416this third worlder has the same voting rights as us. just something to think about.
>>571560839Bungie lost hard and suffered the ultimate humiliation ritual!
>>571560962Oh no, the game does not have a gajillion players.How come it's still online if it's such a "loss" and "failure" btw?
>>571560614Oh those. Yeah I'm honestly not too sure. I have a feeling that they just play automatically since on ranked marsh we've had some POI's scoped out with a thief drone and no one will be there and the announcement still plays
>>571561602that sounds to me like the game bugging out because a player-controlled entity is in the zone
>>571561147To save face.
>>571551459Matchmaking isn't based on skill. Bungie hides what the actual criteria are.
>>571565927It's blatant that bringing in keys has significant weighting. Bring a dna card to cryo and surprise all of a sudden there's 3 teams running dna in the lobby
should I go back to queuing for trios? I only played solos for a week because I felt bad about how one of my trio games went. but i read thinking 101 and three days of happiness like anons suggested and I'm trying to have a better outlook.
