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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9428 - Shadamy Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
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==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
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>>571302942
CUTE
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Douge
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That OP is going to summon the foid who shall not be named. You've doomed this thread OP.
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Shadikal
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>>571290208
Blue freak falls down
Sonic the Hedgehog
Too fat for the naked eye
Sonic the Hedgehog

Sonic
He can move, really
Sonic
He's got no altitude
Sonic
He's the fattest thing alive

Look out when he falls through
Sonic the Hedgehog
Don't doubt what he can do
Sonic the Hedgehog

Sonic
He can move, really
Sonic
He's got no altitude
Sonic
He's the fattest thing alive
He's the fattest thing alive
He's the fattest thing alive
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I feel kinda bad now. I don't hate Amy btw
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>>571302942
cnc
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>another shadow shipping discourse thread
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>>571303174
Not canon. Not even friends.
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>>571303362
oh no that's scary
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>>571303529
Tails knotted this.
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>>571303575
And Silver
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>>571303174
Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge.
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>>571302942
>>571303048
Imagine being a male and being into Shadamy
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Imagine being
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>>571303330
These conversations have made me realize most Amy fans don't actually like Amy as she is. And I understand why, I see why liking her can be frustrating, especially for Sonamy fans. I think the whole situation is sad

I'm going to eat now, bye
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE3cAz3xdOY
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imagine
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I'm starting to think Silvaze only works when it's 06 Blaze where she's fully actualized without her flaws while retaining her feminine/ maternal nature. This does make Blaze into the "Sonic" (a sort of spirit guide) of the two, but with Silver as the protagonist with a coming of age/ hero's journey.

Like yes in 06 Silver is kinda like Shadow or Merlina or Elise or whoever Blaze is kinda like Sonic. Instead of Sonic windpilling (freedom) someone Blaze is firepilling (duty) Silver.
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>>571303820
are you saying amy is potential woman? I thought that was Blaze
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>>571303529
Fat bitch!
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>>571303820
>These conversations have made me realize most Amy fans don't actually like Amy as she is.
Correct. I like Amy as she was in the 2000s.
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It's time for some dark thoughts. give me your darkest and your meanest
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Grown ass fucking men talking about shipping for child characters btw.
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>>571304339
I'd rub my cock on black doom's face and suck on his fingers
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Where is the futa spammer, we need him right now
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>>571304339
Sometimes I look up abuse porn of Tails to satisfy some dark part of my mind.
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>>571303330
What do you feel bad about?
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New game... doko?
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Wha if Sega makes a Sonic Fitness app where your reward is to raise and train a partner?
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>>571304339
Is there really justice for an abused loved one if they don't remember? Is it worth exposing a secret and destroying relationships if the only one that remembers is yourself?
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>>571305875
This is cursed and you need to be punished for your crimes and sins.
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>>571305875
See, this is a goldmine no one seems to be jumping on.
Get these fat weebs a phone app where the favourite characters encourage them to work and or go buy character-branded deodorant.
People improve their lives and businesses make a shit ton of money.

Imagine virtual Amy blushing and biting her lip when she sees the progress you've made.
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training your mobian to cum through paw bean stimulation alone
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https://youtu.be/lkL6MUHtmkQ
Let's talk about Knuckles
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>>571305875
Digimon Vital Bracelet: featuring Sonic characters
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>>571304171
More cushion for the pushin
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>>571306325
>paw bean
Furfags gtfo
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why do people who sperg about sonic not caring about romance not apply this to shadow or silver? both of them are also not supposed to be interested in romance due to being mirror sonics, just for different reasons than sonic, but the same result.
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Sonic media for this feel?
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>>571306529
1. Shadow and Silver arent Windy. The idea they arent supposed to be interested in it is you extrapolating shit based on Sonic paralelisms.
2. Sonic it is explicitly an aspect of his character.
3. Sonic is the main character and is shipped more than any other character. I even think him being romance averse makes him more desirable to shiptards because people want what they cant have.
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>>571306839
>90s
holy shit i'm cumming
>2000s
holy shit i'm cumming
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>>571306839
We'll never have it this good again
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>>571304295
If you actually like her in the 2000s games then I'm happy. But do you? Or do you want to pretend she's le mature teenager and are upset that Sonic doesn't show romantic interest in her in those games?
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>>571305875
Kabalmystic was a mistake.
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>>571303837
I like how Omega and Metal just took their feet off. 10/10 joke.
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>>571306863
1-tails and knuckles,s character who aren't sonic at all can actually show some explicit romantic or sexual attraction, whereas shadow and silver never did, whether it's because of ''purity/naivety'' or ''muhria''

idk about silver but shadow is definitely a character overused by shipfags.
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Has Amy ever been portrayed as keeping her love for Sonic a secret?
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>>571307729
Only in Boom and it was wildly out of character
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>>571307729
Boom.
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>>571306839
Both eras were great in their own way
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>>571307557
All of Sonic's clones including himself are a bit fucked up for romance.
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>>571307270
>le mature
Cringe i hate it. Amy is supposed to be a youthful optimist and is supposed to be spontaneous.
>upset that Sonic doesn't show romantic interest in her in those games?
I legitimately do not care. The only thing I would like is just making it more clear he likes her as a friend and appreciates her presence.
I feel like the maturefaggotry memes are rationalization boomfags made because the fandom for some reason kept rationalizing Boom as a continuation if the games.
What they really liked was just Amy being properly treated as a part of the gang and Sonic making it more clear she was an apreciated friend. Sonic does this in the Iizuka games but not so consistently in the handheld games.
There was nothing wrong with her being loveydovey and him being put off by it.
It was different and fun.
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>>571307557
>idk about silver but shadow is definitely a character overused by shipfags.
Yes but you'd be surprised that he is still shipped less than Sonic by a huge margrin.
Sonic is the main character so a lot of guys also ship him with their prefered girl of choice or you have fags like Tailsfemboys pushing their shit as well.
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>>571308000
i don't really disagree, but people don't have the same autism around shadow and silver.
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>>571307729
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Alright, everyone, buy your IDW slop.
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/sonic-35th-anniversary-megabundle-idw-books
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>>571308524
Hate it
#LetAmyLove
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>>571308549
No, I don't think I will
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>>571306025
This is actually some deep stuff silverbro, both solutions seems wise but it all depends on the person themselves, i fully trust you'd make the right call
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>>571308549
huh. i'd rather buy food
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>>571304339
We all talk about intrusive thoughts and how they tell you to "end your life" here and there, but nobody talks about what happens if they actually took the wheel? like it just needs 1 second of an intrusive thought controlling you and that's it
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>>571308549
The 30th Anniversary Bundle was better
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>>571307823
>>571307825
I was wondering because the Classic Sonic style guide from the mid 2010s says Amy is girly and a secret admirer of Sonic, so basically the opposite of the opposite of her original character concept in 1993. So it seems that was SEGA's intended direction for Amy in general, not just Boom

>>571308524
Yeah, that's why I wondered

>>571308001
Yay, an actual Amy fan!

>Amy is supposed to be a youthful optimist and is supposed to be spontaneous.
I like her like that too. However I have a concern that some things weren't well thought out when she was created, and that's why we have all these arguments and attempts to fix her. Whenever I watch old media, including magical girl anime, girls are portrayed like that, but in a negative way, and are seen by unattractive by the older guys they love, and the ultimate goal of such characters is to grow up to become calm feminine women, which is portrayed as attractive. I think Amy's relationship with Sonic was created with this idea in mind, but of course this doesn't fit Sonic's character, nor modern sensibilities, which were already starting to become popular in the 90s, portraying those characteristics as positive for a girl to have, and not even the fact that this series is designed around the characters being static. I think Sonic's perception of Amy was poorly thought out, Amy is designed as if Sonic should want her to conform to what society expects of women, but the series is also very aware that this would be OOC for Sonic. I think Sonic should actually like Amy behaving like that, but then you have to come up with excuses for his actual behavior in the games, since he doesn't behave like that in other contexts (he doesn't run away from Elise because she doesn't behave the same way as Amy and she understands that Sonic won't stay in Soleanna forever). I don't think there's anything wrong with the gags either, but if you want them to get them together and you think about it then it falls apart
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>>571306529
For Sonic it was repeatedly stated and comic faggots keep denying it
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patting the fuck out of blaze's lower back
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>>571309837
>the mid 2010s
Same time as Boom. There was some weird revisionism thing going on at the time. It was also right before Forces made her the group mom.
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>>571310213
Yeah. At least Forces is explicit about her loving Sonic though
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>>571309886
comicfags died anyway, its mostly sonamy and formerly sonazefags that tried to pull it, sonurge is a shitpost.
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>>571310293
Please don't give me anything to praise Forces for.
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>>571306529
It's only true about Sonic. Shadow blushed at Maria.
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Forces was a good game.
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>>571310462
blushing=/=automatically romantic interest this is the same deal as sonazefags coping because blaze blushed in some idwslop, heck there were blazamyfags coping because amy blushed at blaze. it doesnt mean much without context.
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Princess Purple
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>>571306863
windfags have to deal with amyfags and sallyfags who literally just refuse to read basic confirmed information because it hurts their feelings. nothing shadow and silver have is on that level of delusion. silvazetards and shadikaltards aren't even close.
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>>571310489
All Sonic games are good.
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MIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>571310986
idk about silver but shadow definitely gets ship posting repeatedly.

silver might be an exception to what i said actually, since he seems to be also an amy mirror rather than only a sonic mirror. but i still doubt they'd show him having any kind of explicit unambigous romantic attraction. tails and knuckles did.
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>>571310986
Sonamy and Silvaze fags can't accept Sonic is a mascot franchise
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>>571311279
cute noodle
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>>571310986
Sonallyfags just fully don't understand Sonic's character. Sonamyfags are coping with "It will change in 2027". If it does change in 2027 then I will agree, until then we have a consistent answer and it's that Sonic likes Amy but doesn't want a relationship with anyone.
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>>571310648
Shy or emotionally guarded characters blushing is kinda expected.
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>>571309837
>Amy is designed as if Sonic should want her to conform to what society expects of women.
I guess I never got that impression. I always got the impression the idea was for her to become more capable as an action adventerer. Amy at the start of SA1 is already into fashion and junk.

My view was always that Amy just sees them as meant to be and doesnt deliberate on it at all.
I think the lyrics of her theme paints the picture pretty well.

>but if you want them to get them together and you think about it then it falls apart
I don't really care about them needing to get together. I think the people that insist on this are the ones paradoxically reducing her to her crush while insisting she was just her crush in the 2000s. Like Undertalefags insisting Chara was evil instead of them for being the one killing everything in the underground.
Total lack of self awareness.
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>>571311287
>idk about silver but shadow definitely gets ship posting repeatedly.
People who legitimately think Shadow and Silver will fall in love with someone are legitimately retarded. People with functioning brains think Sonic can fall in love because they read an offbrand comicbook or an outdated cartoon and never questioned the fact that his personality is completely different. These are not the same. A satamfag isn't consciously making a headcanon that Sonic is a romantic teenager. "Sonic is Sonic"
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Sonaze works well in-lore and in-character for as long as you keep them reasonably apart from the other, I think it's one of the pairings where "X doesn't do romance" is actually well baked inside the dynamics.
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>>571310986
>Amyfags
Stop jumping us together. Sonamytards and Amyfags arent the same. Sonamytards dont care about Amy. They just care about their ship.
Actual Amyfags understand and accept the dynamic Amy exists in with Sonic and LIKE it, seeing it as a feature not a bug.
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>>571311783
Sonazefags are some of the only shippers who intelligently incorporate the concept that the ship can't happen in-universe
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I just want to have sex with Amy Rose ONCE
to kiss her beautiful lips, pull on her tail as I hold her close, feeling her breasts mushed against my chest, our love and passion witnessed only by Knuckles sitting in the cuck chair
Is that too much to ask for???
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>>571311383
>Sonamyfags are coping with "It will change in 2027".
Thats literally 1 schizo.
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>>571311565
>I guess I never got that impression.
I think it was part of the original basis of the character, not exactly something that is intentionally used in her stories. I think they based her relationship with Sonic off a trope that used to be popular before the late 90s and fell out of fashion since. And I also think that trope isn't compatible with Sonic's character and the Sonic series as a whole, so it needs to be recontextualized in a way that does, and because they didn't think it through in 1993 now there are going to be contradictions no matter how you handle it

>I don't really care about them needing to get together. I think the people that insist on this are the ones paradoxically reducing her to her crush while insisting she was just her crush in the 2000s.
I agree
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>>571312174
I AM AMY'S BIGGEST FAN
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>>571312120
Are you me? I make posts like this.
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>>571309290
I constantly have all sorts of dark thoughts so I've adapted around it and made all of them spin off into something absurd to make me laugh. If I think about killing myself via jumping I just think it out deeper and I just slam through the earth like a loonytunes character and destory the core of the planet dooming us all, or that I just self destruct. Everyone has bad thoughts but you have the final say on what you want feel and I don't really want to feel sad anymore.
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>>571312174
>mmm. Wife
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>>571311976
Stop trying to divorce Sonamy and Amy fans

>>571312130
Multiple social media users think it will change 2027, not just one
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Fuck Amyfags
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>>571312349
Us Amyfans all share one hive mind when it comes to thinking about sex with Rose
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Bun!
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>>571312460
>Stop trying to divorce Sonamy and Amy fans
He's right though
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>>571311783
Sonazd works if you respect they choose to be apart because neither wants to abandon their own way for the other.
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>no one will let you fuck
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>>571312641
Most Amy fans just want Amy to show open and clear love for Sonic, not for Amy to chase him and for him to run away
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>>571312783
>shadow won't move on from real maria
>chris has wheelchair maria
>yuuta now has rich maria
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>>571312783
Hope you're too young.........and sexy
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>>571303529
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>>571312970
Sonamy fans don't want Sonic to run away
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>>571312783
Epoh<
Eb lliw reven dna wodahs rof hguone doog t'nsi ehs
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>>571312353
Aye, that's a nice way to put it
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>>571313097
Correct but Amy fans most Amy fans don't want Sonic to run away either
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*spits in your coffee cup*
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I leave this fanbase for a year and ya’ll haven’t done anything interesting…
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>>571304171
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>>571313262
*gets herpes*
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>>571313262
Now that's a latte foam I can enjoy
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>>571312143
>I think it was part of the original basis of the character, not exactly something that is intentionally used in her stories.
What gives you that impression?
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>>571313292
the interesting people left in the 2017 exodus
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>>571313208
>Oh yeah I love Amy, I just hate a major aspect of her character
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>>571313082
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>>571313262
indirect kissu~
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>>571312460
>Stop trying to divorce Sonamy and Amy fans
You do not care about Amy as a character. She is just a pony you placed your bets on.


>>571312460
>Multiple social media users think it will change 2027, not just one
Literally who
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>>571313095
Nothing wrong with making loves and sucking on her chocolate awoobies until she's pregnant.
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>>571313440
I'm not good enough to fuck Hope but I would
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>>571313426
How is that an aspect of AMY's character?
This is what i mean. For any other character, people blame the writing. For Amy, Amy is at fault on all circumstances.
Its like we are Meg or something
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>>571313565
I do like Amy's character and you have no right to try to arbitrate that

>Literally who
Unless you've been living under a rock, you'll know that a bunch of fans on Twitter and other social media sites are expecting the pressure of Movie 4 to convince Sonic Team to make Sonic and Amy an official couple
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>>571313292
when you say "fanbase" do you mean sthg or the fanbase as a whole?
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>>571313983
Show them then.
All I ever see is people thinking the dynamic will be reversed. Thats it. You live in a bubble
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Are you Hope enough to fuck good?
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>>571314101
I don't have screenshots but you can ask Grok to find you tweets of people saying they believe Sonic and Amy will become a couple in the main canon in 2027 due to Movie 4 making them a couple
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>>571313983
>I do like Amy's character
No, you like her as a shipping bet and nothing more. They could rewrite her completely and you wouldn't care so long as you were told it was Amy and she gets to be in a conventional relationship with Sonic.
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>>571314150
I know how to use my tongue ye
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Why would movie Sonic dating Amy be considered a win? It would be seen as proof that the ship only works if Sonic is ooc
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>>571314303
>Grok
Oh so I see. False positives you created for yourself.
Like I said, you live in a bubble.
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>>571314452
>CANON. I AM CANON. DO YOU SEE THAT? I WIN! I AM CANON
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>>571314452
But Amy is with Sonic and I can self insert as Amy with Sonic! She's matured and doesn't need that pesky personality when all it does is get in the way of kissing sonic!
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>>571313396
She's called a tomboy. That doesn't make any sense by modern standards, but it does when you look at how tomboys were portrayed in media from the 80s and earlier, including Japanese media. Energetic, playful, loud girls. Those girls would also fall in love with an older guy who dismisses and avoids them. Their behavior would get criticized as immature and they would accept their societal role as calm, quiet, collected women, which are portrayed as attractive signs of maturity, winning the older guy's heart. Sonic and Amy just can't have that last step, and they shouldn't, because it would go against the foundations of the series. But despite that, Sonic still acts dismissive and avoidant when Amy behaves like that. In its original context it makes sense, with Sonic I don't find it well thought out, it only works when you don't think much about it and don't try to insist that they should be in a relationship
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>>571314452
You tell me. Game Amy wouldn't fall for MovieSonic.
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>>571308549
I prefer to read them physically
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>>571314318
Amy's love for Sonic is her biggest character trait so don't be surprised she's shipping bait but don't think that because of that I don't care about her talent for baking and her proclivity for shopping, cooking, and cute animals. I like these traits too. I don't want her to be rewritten into someone she's not

>>571314452
It's considered a win because Paramount did what Sonic Team was too stupid and cowardly to do first
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>>571314350
Oh, are they just doing all of the giant metals from Superstars? I hope so. I want Metal Amy.
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HEY SPARKY

What would an amalgam of Cream and Marine look like? I've never seen you speak how they both desire "adventure" but are both the little sister and sorta get wrangled? I'm thinking this would end up with a kind of a bratty character who is trained to be prim and proper but possibly rejects that and acts out? Feel free to muse on a hypothetical amalgam of Amy, Blaze, and Vanilla and their role and relationship. Also how this character would interact to Tails.

And make no mistakes.
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>>571314643
Horses are so ugly went it feels like everyone on the internet desperately wants to fuck them.
The fetish around it is such steaming fucking shit, I'd rather be gaped by a bowling ball.
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>>571314990
>I'd rather be gaped by a bowling ball.
I'm pretty sure that's on the internet, too.
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>>571314762
god i wish that were me
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>>571314869
Sparky abstraction when
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>>571314990
>Horses are so ugly
That's the whole point of bestiality.
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>>571314869 (Me)
Combining Cream/ Marine and their relationship to Vanilla/ Blaze would make them a "ward" of some kind.
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how long until we have the technology to biologically engineer Sonic the Hedgehog so I can use him for sex
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>>571314350
Does this scale with anything
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>movie 4 releases
>Amy holds sonic's hand and hints she likes him for being adorkable boy failure
>you buy tickets for movie 5 so they can kiss and be real, for reals this time
>you buy tickets for movie 6 so they can kiss and be real for reals this time
>you buy tickets for movie 7 so they can kiss and be real for reals this time
>you buy tickets for movie 8 so they can kiss and be real for reals this time
>you buy tickets for movie 43 so they can kiss and be real for reals this time
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>>571314705
>Those girls would also fall in love with an older guy who dismisses and avoids them. Their behavior would get criticized as immature and they would accept their societal role as calm, quiet, collected women, which are portrayed as attractive signs of maturity, winning the older guy's heart.
But the Sonic series doesnt do that though. Bucking conventions is kind of its thing. The series consistently portrayed Amy's attitude ad behavior as good and a thing she should push on, not a flaw that needs to be fixed.

So if that stuff was at all an influence, then the idea was to subvert it with Amy, not the reverse.
Amy's bios say she became MORE tomboyish, not less.
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/special/sidestory/coverstory/20210222_002499/
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>>571315472
>IT'S A SHAME
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fm6ArtIc-os
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>>571314080
Yes
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>>571315472
I will be seated for every single one
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>>571315524
otenba isn't exactly same thing as western tomboy
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>>571315535
Tails the underground SINGER!
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>>571315651
SUCH A SHAME...
NUMBER ME WITH HASTE! SUCH A SHAAAME...
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>>571315630
I need you to stop saying this. The only reason this MIGHT be true is if you're one of those faggots who think tomboys are just trannies waiting to happen.
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what male character in a romance is the least OOC
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>movienic becomes Amy's husband
>affects nothing else in the franchise
This would make me kek.
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>>571314834
>Amy's love for Sonic is her biggest character trait so don't be surprised
Ofc im not surprised. I LIKE Sonamy, but i hate how Sonamyfags seemingly dont actually like Sonic or Amy and just care about getting them to kiss.
They spin Amy's character being lobotomized as "development" and "maturing" as if that isn't a reputatiation of everything she has been prior, and seemingly only on thr basis they believe she is better sold as a partner for Sonic this way to detractors so they can finally become #canon.

I hate it. Even if i cared enough about them getting together, it literally means nothing if you have to change the character to force it to happen. (Whoch it won't anyway because Amy's character was never the issue)
>I like these traits too.
Those are all tangential traits though. Im talking about who Amy is as a person and what she represents.
You dont even seem capable of describing her as anything other than "girl who likes Sonic"
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>>571315524
>But the Sonic series doesnt do that though.
It doesn't force Amy to conform to those outdated ideas of femininity, but it also shows the characters being annoyed by her.

>The series consistently portrayed Amy's attitude ad behavior as good and a thing she should push on, not a flaw that needs to be fixed.
>then the idea was to subvert it with Amy
If that was always the intention then I am happy, but I don't think they've done a good job at portraying it if that's the case. Sonic and even other characters make it clear that they find Amy annoying when she behaves in certain ways. That doesn't seem like a subversion to me, they're letting it play out like it does in other series even though the Sonic series should theoretically be one of those revolutionary series that presents the behavior in a positive light. If it really already was Sonic Team's intention in the 90s then I think they either didn't do this particular aspect very well, or they didn't push it hard enough
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>>571315918
Tails
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>>571315918
Vector.
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>>571315917
otenba is moreso about a certain personality type rather than having explicitly masuline interests. a girl who's into makeup, cute plushies, boys fashion and stuff wouldn't be called tomboys in the west because they are extroverted.
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(You) can't survive the 4th movie.
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>>571315918
Eggman
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>>571315918
Tails and Vector since they actually fall in love under Sonic Team
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I’m trying to remember a stage for Sonic cd blast I think? because I like the song for it a lot I can’t really describe what it sounds like but it has like an opera sounding noise in it
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>Yuji naka made a digimon game
>It was so shit they thought digimon died in the west
I wasn't ready for this lore.
It's called all star rumble
Yuji and his team need to be punished for their sins, I almost lost my cocaine addiction.
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>>571316057
>a girl who's into makeup, cute plushies, boys fashion and stuff
>tomboys
And I'm telling you these things aren't mutually exclusive. Your definition is stupidly narrow.
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>>571316225
Naka was behind All Star Rumble? Jesus Christ. That game nearly killed my interest in digimon as a kid.
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>>571316218
3D Blast Saturn?
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>>571316057
blaze gets closer to actual ''masculine girl'' through deeper voice, can't cook ''takarazuka'' flat chest insecurity etc. but even then most will miss the subtext in the west.
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>>571315918
Cucktoine watching black voice sonic lay pipe on his wife
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>>571316084
Why must you tease me?
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>>571316421
I think that’s it, yea.
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>>571316043
>It doesn't force Amy to conform to those outdated ideas of femininity, but it also shows the characters being annoyed by her.
When? Also doesnt that kind of defeat the point you were making then? It isnt related at that point.
>>571316043
>Sonic and even other characters make it clear that they find Amy annoying when she behaves in certain ways.
Again when? And again, I feel like you've created a just so story in your head at this point.
Im not convinced those tropes were foundational to Amy in the first place.
Magical Emi was probs jist a design inspo
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>>571316308
otenba often doesn't have any actual masculinity or boyishness in it besides being loud instead of quiet, and even then being talkative and emotive in the west is interpreted as more feminine anyway. ''spitfire'' is a better translation.
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>the shadow of balan tried to kill another series
Can he be stopped?
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>>571316225
>>571316361
I was anime only for digimon and 02 ending legit killed my interest in it (aside from porn).
That'd be like if Sonic XYL became the canon future for the games.
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>>571316218
Final boss theme.
https://youtu.be/2nAgLOygvLE
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>>571315969
I hate how Amy's character has been lobotomized too but this is only a problem that exists in the English media since Sonic Team doesn't care to put a leash on Ian Flynn.

>Im talking about who Amy is as a person and what she represents.
Then what does she represent? Love, hope, and passion?
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>>571316225
NAKA made AllStarRumble?
I mean it isnt technically bad. Its just bad in comparison to RumbleArena 2
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>>571316469
It's a fact....
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>>571316643
They had to be trolling with that ending because there is no way
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>Producer of the Digimon Adventure PSP game
What the fuck
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>>571316724
>blaming it all on Ian
Anon...
>Then what does she represent?
The fact you cant tell me in clear terms proves my point.
Poser.
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"All Star Rumble" sounds like a Sonic SSB rip-off. I wish Naka stayed so he could pump out kusogems like this.
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>>571316921
NTA but it's MOSTLY Ian. At least now. Pontaff didn't help. Boom was a net negative. It's just western writers in general and right now that's mostly Ian.
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>>571316884
That one was good though, wasnt it? People praise that one.
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>Both Ken Penders and Yuji Naka worked on Digimon
I don't know how to handle this
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>Naka, Penders, and Kanebara all worked on digimon
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>>571316216
i guess, cosmo isn't canon + dead and vanilla is a non character so it's going to bore the fandom
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>>571316921
Amy's love isn't absent in the Japanese media and she's still portrayed as energetic and cheerful
What I told you Amy represents are her character themes. They're abstract nouns, not concrete nouns
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>>571317076
My take is its the opposite. Writers in IDW and other people are counteracting it rather than it being all on Ian.
Ian wrote Amy like herself in Megadrive.
Now granted, it is my belief his views and opinions on female characters either shifted since then or plays more of a role. I cant say. But it isnt all on Ian.
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>>571316536
>When?
In the games. She was constantly shown to be annoying

>Also doesnt that kind of defeat the point you were making then?
No

>Im not convinced those tropes were foundational to Amy in the first place.
So you think it's just a coincidence that everything except the resolution is the same?

I think that including this trope in the Sonic series MUST be a subversion. I also don't see any proof that they actually took this into account when they originally created Amy. It seems to me that they just did the same thing as everyone else and then cut it off before reaching the resolution because they knew it would be wildly OOC and off-brand in this series
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>>571305875
>Elonfag
At least use the actual fucking kabalmystic models in SFW you wank
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Why we didn't know any of this? Are you saying we're all ignorant?
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>>571317090
It's just a retelling of the anime, I'd say it's more okay, not horrible but not s tier.
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>>571317290
I mean I said it's not all of them. But Ian has a lot of candid remarks in interviews and podcasts that show outright that he just doesn't understand Amy, nor does he like her dynamic or even the way she dresses. He has no personal reason to invest in doing a good job with her, so he clearly doesn't.
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>>571317151
Can you stop trying to explain shit i already know to me every time you have this conversation with me please?


Formulate in a clear 2 or 3 lines who Amy is, what and her character is about.
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>>571317090
Oh it was fine (Brave Tornado being too op aside), I was just shocked
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>>571316884
Oh hey I knew about that one. I completely forgot years ago though

>>571317105
What did Penders do? Were there off-brand western Digimon comics as well?
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>>571317116
As a team could anyone beat them?
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>>571316421
What a fucking weird port, made solely as a rushjob because Sonic Xtreme's production nearly killed a man and they needed a quick replacement. Though I wonder, if the blackhole of timewasting that is Xtreme was never attempted, would we have gotten a 3D Blast sequel instead of a port on the Saturn? The Richard Jacques music and S2-style Special Stages are completely wasted on what is otherwise a mediocre port.
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>>571316653
Oh my shit thanks so much dude been looking for this forever
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>>571317531
I will jail you for dressing water BOY like a girl.
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>>571315284
Cream pushing Vanilla
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>>571317365
>In the games. She was constantly shown to be annoying
Please list the examples.

>>571317365
>No
But it does? If its not related, then it isnt a factor at all.

>So you think it's just a coincidence that everything except the resolution is the same?
But we just concluded it isn't the same though.
>It seems to me that they just did the same thing as everyone else and then cut it off before reaching the resolution because they knew it would be wildly OOC and off-brand in this series
But that doesn't make any sense. The whole point is that she is this way BECAUSE a conventional dynamic would be ooc.
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>>571315939
>Movie Sonic becomes Amy's husband
That might actually happen in the future since Paramount says the characters do mature. Then comes Movie Sonic and Amy having children
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>>571317391
*squeezes one of your boobs* >=)
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As a fan of Archie, I wish to announce that windfags are actually completely correct on everything, and that Sonally was a terrible mistake.
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>>571317391
*pets you*
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>>571317873
I agree with Ian that Sally was actually better off without Archienic
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>>571317489
>But Ian has a lot of candid remarks in interviews and podcasts that show outright that he just doesn't understand Amy, nor does he like her dynamic or even the way she dresses
Im aware. That doesnt make it all on Ian. He doesnt have that kind of power, and the watering down of Amy's character started well before he got involved.
His way of writing Amy in modern came from.his fans telling him that Amy "is like her boom self in canon now" around when IDW started.
I remember because I was there.
Ian reacted positively to this.
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Tails was cucked mega hard in the Archie comics
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>>571317969
I like this artist very much. He loves Amy. And also he had some kind of art trend going recently on Twitter, so that's neat.
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>>571315467
It scales with the 2.5 inch classic figures, it’s all made from sonic super stars models
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Sally should have been given a human husband as a massive arc that showcases the acorns and humans can get along after the race war.
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>>571317489
There is no other writer other than Ian who tries to lobotomize Amy. He's the one doing but the reason I suspect that Sonic Team anything about it because they simply don't care and that's not ok
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>>571317873
Literally every Archie writer except Ian shat on Sonally intentionally
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>>571318070
>He doesnt have that kind of power
He's currently the series' lead writer. I don't know how you could even type that.
>and the watering down of Amy's character started well before he got involved.
Yes, I know, I already blamed Pontaff and Boom.
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Nobody at Sonic Team cares about Amy's stupid crush. Move on.
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penis
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>>571318208
Elias too.
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>>571317753
That’s not a girl’s outfit
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I love Archie Shadow
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>>571318346
>He's currently the series' lead writer. I don't know how you could even type that.
Anon, no he is a contract writer who wrote the english script for 2 games the second of which is basically the same as in japanese and was heavily supervised rather than changed.
Amy is this way because SoA is makong her this way.
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>>571318448
Sonic Team is Japanese and they do. Or else you wouldn't see it all over their versions of Sonic media, specifically.
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Nobody cares about Amy....
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>>571317105
Naka and Penders are the GOATs of Sonic, so of course they would on absolute kino like Digimon.
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>>571318474
Elijahfag...
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>>571318039
Yeah but the reboot tried to hint at her being lesbians with Nicole or some shit of that sort, like a proto-IDW
>>571318072
I don't think anything compares to what Ash and Amy suffered in Mobius X Years Later
>>571318274
Did anything top The Slap? Not counting Pender's being weird on Twitter
>>571318208
>>571318474
I see the vision, and respect it
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>>571318614
I do, but they won't hire me at Sega and even if they did they wouldn't let me tard-wrangle Ian.
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>>571318448
They do though
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>>571317841
>Please list the examples.
Like any time Sonic (or even Tails) interacts with her in the Adventure games. The very first cutscene Sonic and Amy meet in Adventure. Sonic sees her run towards him and immediately starts avoiding her. It happens constantly.

>But we just concluded it isn't the same though.
It is. All of this:
>Energetic, playful, loud girls. Those girls would also fall in love with an older guy who dismisses and avoids them. Their behavior would get criticized as immature
happens with Amy. It's this part
>and they would accept their societal role as calm, quiet, collected women, which are portrayed as attractive signs of maturity, winning the older guy's heart.
that doesn't, and shouldn't. I think the first part wasn't incorporated in the Sonic series in a thoughtful manner, it was just thrown in because they wanted a "tomboy" and "love" character and that was it. It doesn't make a satisfying point or anything, it's not a real subversion, it's just a gag without much thought, but in order to have it fit in the Sonic series it needs to be thought out and that's why we have all these arguments and "fixing" attempts, they're attempts at making up for something that was missed originally
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Sega caving in with the old as piss comic stuff. 2028 with Jakks Pacific or possibly GoodSmile. Happy fapping
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>>571317512
Amy is a young girl who is in love with the hero/protagonist. She wants to prove herself to Sonic and wants to go everywhere he goes because she likes adventure too. In Sonic X, she says Sonic is the wind and that she's like the petals fluttering in the wind
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>>571318843
yeah man i wish we had a cool bunnie rabbot figurine
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>>571317512
>Formulate in a clear 2 or 3 lines who Amy is, what and her character is about.
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Sonic lacks in the pretty boy character, Silver can't hog all of that to himself.
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>>571313095
>Whisper chuckled.
>"You mean the chaos emeralds?"
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Amy should be bissxual and have a nose ring and tattoos not know how to cook and get a useless degree and hundreds of thousands in debt and fuck Tails and Knuckles and Shadow and etc and Sonic should yearn for her but wokely

that would truly adapt amy to the modern audience
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>>571318713
>JP artist drawing cartoon characters fugging
Hot shit.

>>571319028
Q1 or Q2 that year. I literally work with toy sales. All I'm saying.
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Amy is an adult teenager with a passion for sharing love to everyone all around the world ever since she became old enough to understand that her crush rejected her. This is Amy's character now.
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>>571318541
Why isn't Sonic Team stopping SoA though? Does Sonic Team not care?
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Just because Yamato and Sora are fucking doesn't mean they love each other!!!!!
This is how Sonic shippers will sound
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>>571319156
I want to be choked by his cock
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>>571319414
Amy has no character
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>>571319346
>I literally work with toy sales.
can you get me a spinosaurus toy
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>>571319264
Stupid Twitter faggots (literal) already try to give her the bisexual flag whenever June rolls around and they start making faggot art.
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>>571319326
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>>571318843
>>571319346
Cute. Will buy if true.
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>>571318843
>>571319346
Let's pretend this is real, what other characters are they doing
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>>571318794
>Like any time Sonic (or even Tails) interacts with her in the Adventure games. The very first cutscene Sonic and Amy meet in Adventure. Sonic sees her run towards him and immediately starts avoiding her. It happens constantly.
This isn't what happened, nor is it him being annoyed by her behavior.
In that scene Sonic is already busy and Amy is putting more on his plate asking him to help protrct a birdie.
He doesnt run away from her. He goes "sigh, I guess it cant be helped". In his version of the events they are walking together.

https://youtu.be/mrdFTWzsiYs?t=912&si=sRGEuC9zDC73pyCh

In Amy's he goes ahead and amy has to catch up to him and she goes "hey Sonic, im not as fast as you remember" as he is there literally waiting for her.

https://youtu.be/Zi_-1A41Wx4?t=183&si=K-4J_2nQMDxjo1-M

>>Energetic, playful, loud girls. Those girls would also fall in love with an older guy who dismisses and avoids them. Their behavior would get criticized as immature
happens with Amy
When?

I seriously feel like youre projecting some giant story you created in your head onto things.
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>>571319523
Oh that's wrong but, my futa amy pics are based and hot.
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>>571313440
Unnnf
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>>571319523
That's awful! With Blaze no doubt. Imagining Amy and Blaze kissing makes me sick.
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>>571319456
To be fair I can see Sonic and Rouge fucking without loving each other.
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>>571319456
You can't erase "Shocking night, fucking night"
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>>571319443
They believe it is what people want. Because shiptards and haters told them as much.
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>>571319630
Futa Amy is in character.
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>>571319728
If the series was rated M
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>>571317862
>>571317951
stop
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https://withthewill.net/threads/looking-for-source-of-picture.30491/
So apparently it's just a rumor among fans?
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>>571319925
but what about Silver :(
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>>571319925
>halflidnic aka fuckmenic
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>>571319561
FF, robotnik, some robots. The Sonic and Tails have the shitty nu classic style and Robotnik is normal. Everyone else is oddly accurate with the conventions like the gloves where they had bare hands originally.

>pretend
Sega has their hand in it. That's why they're forcing the design mandate shit with the Japanese characters there.
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I want to live in the Sonic world as a cute mobian… I hate being human so much. Why can’t the technology exist to change my body …?
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>>571319614
She literally just greets him and he's already annoyed and trying to get away from her, before she even asks him to do anything
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>>571319925
>Blaze
NIGGGGFAAAAAAA
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Son of a fucking bitch, I missed SA2, and by extension Rouge's 25th anniversary.
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>>571319614
>He goes "sigh, I guess it cant be helped". In his version of the events they are walking together.
...in regards to what he perceives as Amy's delusion, WHICH IS WHY RUNNING AWAY FROM HER WASN'T AN INVENTION OF LOCALIZATION, THE GAME HAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS PLAY OUT FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
(Mind, he comes around when Amy actually stands up in a rare bit of character devlopment.)
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>>571318856
>Amy is a young girl who is in love with the hero/protagonist
Amy doesn't love Sonic because he is the hero/protagonist.
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Tails (chao)
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>>571319326
This is sexo as fuck, but I love Antoine too much to be okay with this
>>571319346
>Hot shit.
Damn straight
>>571320049
She's his mom!
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>>571320186
If it's any consolation, wait until Monday.
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>>571319885
Sonic Team is so stupid and incompetent. That's not what Amy and Sonamy fans want. It's only a fringe minority of haters
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>>571319925
where's eggman?
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>>571320186
How will you make it up to her~
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>>571320178
And Amy asks what's his problem? The conclusion is that he is reacting to the idea of her. Not anything she has actually done.
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>>571303837
Orgy at dows house at 9pm
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>>571320186
Never too late to fap like a maniac, anon.
>>571319934
If the series was rated M we'd have steamy Sally Acorn calendars already. But hey, maybe I could forward that to GoodSmile...
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>>571303920
>We want the Sonic & Tails dynamic but Sonic isn't cool enough and Tails isn't kid enough for us
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>>571320447
Monday the 22nd? What happens then?
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>>571320229
Anon, pay attention.
In HIS version, they are walking together the whole time.
Its in AMY's version where he runs ahead and she has to catch up.
From his perspective he never ran from her.
And in Amy's he didnt even run away from her, its just him being too fast and making her have to hustle.

Localisation has him go "No way nuhuh" and have amy say "Hey dont run away"
This is not in the original. Nor does it matter even from that angle because this only happens in Amy's version.
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>>571319925
it’s shadow
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>>571313745
human men
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Chroniclesfag there's nothing stopping you from making sex scenes
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>>571320832
>We want the Sonic & Tails dynamic
A lot of character pairings are basically just this
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>>571319156
We got Dr Starline
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>>571320457
It is ehat Sonamyfags asked. Because they believed her being more low key would mean Sonic would reciprocate and fuck her.
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>>571320620
Would you actually be down...
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>>571302942
Characters for this feel?
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<3
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Last thing I'm gonna say about the comic figures.

>been in the toy/figure sales business for about a year
>shit tons of companies like Sega, Capcom, etc.

Sega's caving in is due to Sonic Team actually doing their homework. Faces like Iizuka, Kishimoto and others know who the furry grandmas are now and they want to cater to a side of the fandumb that's "new" to them.

They're gonna need to do legal to hell and back but they want it happening. Again, Q1 '28 at the earliest. Some dick like Penders could hop in so take it with a salt of grain. You guys are just gonna jar the handicapped rabbit anyway.
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>>571321157
>Tangle&Whisper when the rest of the idw crew try to be relevant
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>>571320457 (me)
I'm inclined to believe that Sonic Team simply doesn't care because Amy's love is absent in the English version of Frontiers, present in the English version of Sonic x Shadow Generations and Tailstube episodes written by Tyson Hesse, and absent again in the English version of Crossworlds and that 35th anniversary book. Screw Sonic Team
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Beautiful boy!
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>>571320563
The idea that she is annoying, yes

>>571320847
Nine!
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>>571314705
Almost sounds like despite Amy just being the girl version of Sonic, the trope they based the relationship on forced Sonic to not be "Sonic"? Because Amy being the tomboyish energetic and playful girl she is, is just what the mirror of Sonic himself. So why have Amy be younger than Sonic in any capacity, when Sonic's maturity and Amy's maturity levels are basically exactly the same? Why have this idea that Sonic would see Amy as "immature" when he himself has a "boy's heart"?
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>>571321369
>Tailstube episodes written by Tyson Hesse
Which ones are those
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>>571321354
>You guys are just gonna jar the handicapped rabbit anyway.
I'm not enough of a sick fuck to do that to any figurine. I'm mainly interested in Antoine anyway
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>>571321369
in the end they care more about what sells and a sanitized amy is what sells, or used to sell in the west during 2010s. nowadays the discussion seems to be around disliking females being the ''level headed moms'' as misogyny so that might change again.
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>>571321613
Nine is cute
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>>571321617
Yeah, I don't know, I'm not sure all of those were good ideas, but it is factually what they did. They made Amy younger and portrayed the other characters, especially Sonic, as annoyed by her behavior
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>>571321617
Because they are making things up to push a narrative.
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>>571321787
Yeah!
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>>571321157
Kek I love this apparently that blonde chick set up lol
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>>571321738
the only actual solution i see, people wont like it but sonic simply having more indications of liking her or at least the gags would be more subtle/not as annoyed. no one actually thinks she's meant to be stalker or something that actually is threatening to sonic but they still empathize with the mc and self insert thus they project a desperate or annoying girl from school. and the sanitized version is only a temporary bandaid that falls apart.
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>>571321084
They never asked for Amy to say "You still have love left to share with the world, Sonic" instead of "You haven't seen me as a lovely lady yet" in Frontiers, for Amy to be calm and levelheaded in Crossworlds, and for Amy to be called "Sonic's trusted friend" in the 35th anniversary book.
They just didn't want Amy to get angry at Sonic and for him to run away because of that

>>571321691
He wrote most of them but 10 and 12 didn't lobotomize Amy

>>571321738
I hope it does change
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>>571321364
Kek
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>>571320185
>>571319925
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Tails is Sonic's trusted friend <3
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>>571321069
Speaking Chronicles, was that anon's fan game released or is it still being worked on?
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>>571322187
>>571322486
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>>571322342
>simply having more indications of liking her or at least the gags would be more subtle/not as annoyed
I dont see why anyone would have an issue with this....besides being a shiptard that is.
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>>571322691
And his most reliable friend
And his fastest friend
And together they're unbeatable
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>>571320514
Personally, i would let her inflate herself with air on top of me, then let her fart out all of that air on my cock.
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>>571322769
Worked on
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>>571322486
>>571322691
Sonic after promising not to streal his new chick
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>>571322853
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Amy is just "Girl Sonic", and the difference is Cool vs Passion. Any notion that Amy is immature and needs to grow up is as stupid as Sonic being immature and needing to grow up, that ain't ever happening, nor should it, because who they are right now is already their best selves. So Amy being introduced decided with this "younger girl, older senpai" dynamic with Sonic doesn't make any sense because Sonic is not like those "senpai" characters in the first place.

Or maybe, between that and the "Piccolo" thing with Tails in Sonic 2, there's something about Classic Sonic's intended personality or image back then that was just never portrayed or shown properly even on the Japanese side...
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>>571322439
>They never asked for Amy to say "You still have love left to share with the world, Sonic" instead of "You haven't seen me as a lovely lady yet" in Frontiers, for Amy to be calm and levelheaded in Crossworlds, and for Amy to be called "Sonic's trusted friend" in the 35th anniversary book.
>They just didn't want Amy to get angry at Sonic and for him to run away because of that
But its not what they asked for. What they asked for was for Amy to stop being as passionate and to be more like Boom.
Go look up interviews yourself.
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>>571321692
https://youtu.be/osxJ5-_Ccp0?si=zGdaeCZ-Ush44673
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usQoLrK5_Ss
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>>571322814
windfags think sonic should be asexual. i think wind can be achieved with him simply not committing to a full on relationship but still.
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>>571323076
Meant for >>571322632
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>>571322987
Except Sonic kind of is a loner senpai. Or was. Sonic used to be more "serious". Though that became more associated with Super Sonic, and then just kinda fizzled out. Regardless, yes, Amy was intended to be younger than Sonic
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>>571320847
Why didn't Nine just rape Sonic?
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>>571322853
...oh ok
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>>571323184
archie raped the discussion on shipping so whenever they hear you talking about it they think you mean like archie
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>>571322816
Kino...
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>>571307292
>>571317374
i have no idea what Kabalmystic is, I just pulled whatever SFW Gym Amy I could grab from Deviantart
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>>571320905
You'll see.
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>>571321157
>>571323241
Who is this BLACK girl?
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>>571323076
lol
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>>571323184
>windfags think sonic should be asexual
No they don't. They think he shouldn't give a fuck about fucking bitches or dating because he prioritizes fun and adventure.
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Come here you filthy rat
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>>571323275
i sometimes what would it be if we were in the timeline americans didn't have involvement with sonic beyond marketing the game content.
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>>571322991
They loved Amy's passion and were happy when Amy energetically hugged Sonic in Riders arc of one of IDW comics. They just didn't Amy to be demanding towards Sonic. Everyone hates Boom Amy now, including Tyson Hesse, except the Boom glazers.
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>>571323438
Whisper the Wolf
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>>571323392
What do i need to monitor? This thread?
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>>571323438
Azelia Banks how do not know this
>>571323668
Azelia would think Whisper a lame bitch
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>>571323506
i don't think most amy or sonamyfags want sonic to fully commit either they just want some clearer indication of sonic liking her so people don't weaponize the ''its literally rape!/stalking!'' sentiment thats disingenious but commonly used in arguments.
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>>571323653
>They loved Amy's passion and were happy when Amy energetically hugged Sonic in Riders arc of one of IDW comics.
Because Sonic reacts less negatively to it.
Because Amy's character and behavior was never the issue.
But that wasn't what they believed or said back in the 2010s when this happened to Amy
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>>571323235
>Amy was intended to be younger than Sonic
But like, how "old" is Sonic himself by comparison? Not in age, but in mindset / personality!? Like his original bio saying "18", what does that mean and why is it 15 now?

Amy being "younger" doesn't mean ANYTHING personality-wise because, again, she is JUST LIKE SONIC HIMSELF in all the ways that actually matter. What was Sonic supposed to be like?! "Shadow"!? His original character profiles are not much different at all from his current one, his portrayal in stuff like the OVA is just another flavor of JP Sonic in general, so where the heck is this "mature older senpai" that Amy was designed around originally!?
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>>571323726
Who is she? What has she done of note?
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>>571323334
he's some dude on DA who made some buff models and put the heads and features of sonic characters on them.
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>>571323704
Yes, or rather, one of the future ones.
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>>571323836
i think shadow might be sonic + metal

silver is sonic + amy

its all cd
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How some you want Sonic to treat Amy
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>>571323836
>What was Sonic supposed to be like?! "Shadow"!?
Yes sort of. Think Shadow but more cartoony. And expressive. And fun.

And the age difference is noticeable in that Amy is more childish than Sonic, and Sonic is more ""wise""
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>>571322971
What is it, Miss Vanilla?
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>>571318843
>Low rez
>More than likely AI

Who falls for this shit?
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>>571323774
But we already have that and people still do it. Its just moved up to makong fun of Amy for never kissing/fucking him. Which has only fueled the autism of wanting to force them to be a conventional couple.
Can't win
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>>571323847
Fight every celebrity under the sun and scarifiing chickens in her closet for to hex charlixcx and lana del rey
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>>571302942
The Queen has spoken. The jig is up, evan
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>>571323726
only person i've ever heard with a similar name to hers was iggy azalea, and that was back in the mid 2010s
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>>571324076
Not all of here has watched that gay show so your post is low effort.
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>>571324260
Uwuver fans are literally the only people who try the "both are good" angle because it's an attempt to legitimize something that is blatantly ooc
>I don't like editing someone else's work
what a weak song and dance. performative.
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>>571324117
>And the age difference is noticeable in that Amy is more childish than Sonic, and Sonic is more ""wise""
But that has never been true!? Amy herself is wise but in the girly way where love and romance is the core thesis message or whatever, but thematically its just a mirror of Sonic's freedom.

Amy's own core concept is her pure hearted belief in true love, and her whole hearted pursuit of it. That's not "immature", that's just who she is as an ideal. Amy has never been any more immature than Sonic himself. Heck, Amy's never been any more immature than SHADOW is.
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>>571306529
Cuz Sonic's the VVIND
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>>571323819
Sonic Team is tone deaf and not with the times. They need to listen to the dominant discourse of today, not from the 2010s. Removing Amy's passion was an experiment that went wrong for everyone to see and Boom Amy clearly shows that
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>>571324117
I think the idea Sonic was more like Shadow in the classics is some bandwagon meme.
SuperSonic sure. But I also think that was part of the point with Shadow to begin with given his design ans his chaos powers.
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>>571324163
it appears to be not clear enough for people since they deny the notion that sonic might have feelings at all when you point out the statements. either that or they get dismissed as fanservice instead of being part of the narrative since the series inception

as some other anon said, it might be archie complicating this stuff since when you talk about shipping, they assume kissing/dating sappy explicit stuff. sonic team are actually shipfags for a lot of stuff but the fanbase cant read it if its not explicit dating and shit.
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>>571324331
She fought her too
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>>571324416
it's basically the same as idw but with fewer action sequences
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>>571324529
Except Boom Amyfags still insist she was the best version of Amy. More people are fighting it but it is still a comon belief.
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>>571308549
Why would anyone spend their hard earned money for this?
>>571312120
This so much this, idk about the cucking tho but yeah this
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>>571324346
Fast boys

Suddenly I can't post images anymore
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>>571324543
he was a bit more grumpy ova had ''im tired of doing this but ill begrudgingly accept it'' thing

i don't think thats necessarily shadow tho. i think shadow might be metal + sonic mashed together.
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>>571324416
I'm sorry...i'll leave you alone
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^-^
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>>571324780
>Except Boom Amyfags still insist she was the best version of Amy. More people are fighting it but it is still a comon belief.
I haven't touched Boom with a 10ft pole, what do Boom Amy fans like about her in it specifically?
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>>571324941
Boom Amy is frontiers Amy taken less seriously with some generic tsundere humor
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>>571324628
>it appears to be not clear enough for people since they deny the notion that sonic might have feelings at all when you point out the statements.
Anon, no one that does that is being honest. Normies all think Sonic and Amy have a thing by pure virtue of her being his main love interest and having a crush on him.
The people that deny this or insist otherwise all have an agenda one way or the other whether that is hating Amy, preferring other ships or finding relationshit cringe and gay in general and wishing people would shut up about it as a whole.
Others are attached to the idea of Amy being a punching bag and literally think its the point of the character.

Clarity has nothing to do with it and nothing can be done in that regard because people will just call it revisionist history.
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>>571324892
why is her butt big
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>>571322559
This is the good shit. One of my favorite Amy animations up there with the one in the shop and the one where the guy rims her and fucks her ass.
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>games that let you as the player determine which love interests are canon
>characters age
>voice actors stay the same for 30 years
>characterizations on point
>writing was able to get dark and edgy without losing its charm or becoming controversial
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>>571317873
>Sonally was a terrible mistake.
Why?
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>>>571325186
Don't focus on it she's going through a lot mentally and all everyone csn talk about is her ass
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When I said Sonic was like Shadow in the Classics is because of how he's portrayed up until around 1994, when they made him softer. Sonic was very determined, serious and goal oriented, though he still a comedic/cartoony charm to him. This is mostly about how he was conveyed visually. Then in modern they exaggerated his "radness" by making him more lanky and smirky
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>>571325020
Well from that alone I can say it's an improvement. I liked Dream Team & Unleashed Amy FWIW.
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>>571325269
nta. i don't hate sonally conceptually (though i do agree its ooc for game sonic) but in the actual archie comic they don't actually live it up to its potential. they drag out the will they won't they until the last few issues of her life and turn her into a fucking robot.
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>>571324820
>he was a bit more grumpy ova had ''im tired of doing this but ill begrudgingly accept it'' thing
He still has that in SA1 and even Sonic X though. I personally always just saw it as Sonic being more chill with having friends by the time Heroes came along.
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>>571321157
Why would I want to have orgy with neggurs? I don't want to catch std
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>>571324780
Imagine being moronic enough to believe that Boom Amy was the best Amy. She was a bossy bipolar nag who switched between being angry and sweet. SA1, SA2, and Unleashed have the best versions of Amy
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Basically this

>>571325125
Idk I'm not having any issue
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>>571324941
If you ask them they will say "she is good for not being a psycho stalker like she was in the 2000s" without being able to explain what her character is and ehy its good.
Other than that they will say "she keeps her feelings a secret".
Some will say they like she is treated like a competent proper member of the squad, which i think is what does all the actual heavy lifting.
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>>571325109
sure but sonic team didn't do any favors with it either since they allowed archie to ruin the whole discussion + and soa often made sonic dislike amy more than what the actual dialogue and voice direction implied in japanese stuff.

regardless i don't think stinky 4channers matter that much in the whole thing, the ''misogyny'' discussion or wokes not liking some more mean spirited or flanderized 00s localized script contributed more to her being lobotomized.
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>>571325480
>I personally always just saw it as Sonic being more chill with having friends by the time Heroes came along.
For what it's worth, "Long time no see" sort of stopped being a thing after 06. Mostly because these people apparently just hang around each other constantly now.
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>>571325325
I always liked it when Blobian noodle limbs fit loosely into their shoes and gloves and you can see a little bit of void space around their ankles/wrists.
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>>571325380
I found Dream Team Amy boring.
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>>571325590
It's probably just on my end
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Was Shadow a mistake? Like you make a character with baggage and an edgy backstory and actual lore in a mascot franchise and now everything is about them and how cool they are right?
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I hate every western version of Amy. They are all shitty shit shit.
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>>571325380
Damn, that's crazy, because she's the complete opposite of Unleashed Amy.
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>>571325787
I like it too. That first appeared in CD
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>>571325751
Not a fan of that. Sonic isnt TMNT.
Prime was assassination.
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>>571325186
For jax
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>>571325751
Emerald Town is apparently canon, so some of them do just live near each other. Kinda odd that Vanilla's house isn't ever shown despite Cream being in the game.
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honine animation test
https://files.catbox.moe/6wbrlq.webm
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>>571325875
That's because Ian wrote her. You just need to admit that you will never get a good Amy under Ian Flynn unless Takashi iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda grow a spine and actually force him to write her properly or else Ian is just going to keep getting away with what he's doing to Amy. This is why Ian needs to be dropped already
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>>571326115
Holy shit
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>>571325887
Shadow was a stint in the grand scheme. The people that complain about him and his popularity are largely just bitter imo. And I get it because I remember the mid 2000s and how everyone would make fun of conventionally cool characters and call them lame and for babies while shilling edgeshit. It was obnoxious and many Shadowfags did this.

But overall Shadow settled down after 06 anyway.

The real issue is Shadowfags not being comfortable woth the character not being top billing all the time.
A lot of Shadowfans dont even like Sonic or the rest of the franchise imo. And this is an issue with Blaze and Silver to lesser extents.
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>>571322559
Gooned
Good.shit mainly because of these passionate kisses
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>>571326115
Out of context nobody will know this was a bunch of torture requests from Tailsyume strung together into a story
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>>571326082
>sadistic
>femboy
>creepy looney tune
>fourth os unknown

Jax fumbled and he will continue to fumble
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>>571326115
ENEMIES TO LOVERS KINO
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>>571326206
Is it Ian's script or the direction that is the issue though?
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>>571325727
>>571325109
everything in this franchise regarding characterization stems from westshit sabotage + ST expecting you to read between the lines instead of laying stuff clear.
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>>571324260
She draw Blaze limbless being fucked by Silver
How is she any authority over SoJ-approved comic
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>>571326460
Why are women like this?
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>>571325751
None of that matters or means anything. "Long time no see" isn't a Sonic thing, it's a common regular greetings used by east Asians. It simply means "hi" and isn't meant to be interpreted literally, it doesn't actually have any temporal relation. Its Japanese equivalent is "hisashiburi" and Japanese and other east Asians have translated it to English as "long time no see" when they went to live in America and kept using that greeting. The reason "long time no see" was so common in Sonic is because the stories were written by Japanese people who say "hisashiburi" and then when they got translated to English they rendered it as "long time no see" because that's its closest English equivalent. Unfortunately the connotations are lost on English speakers who aren't familiar with east Asian greetings. Sonic Forces was written in Japanese first and Sonic says "hisashiburi"/"long time no see" to Infinite after not seeing for maybe a few hours at most
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>>571326460
I remember Tailsyume literally cumming in the thread from Honine
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>>571326514
The "laying stuff clear" shit only matters because of autists online who wanna push agendas though in the Wikipedia age where clear statements are treated as the only fact, and thus perceptions can be easily manipulated based on how certain people choose to frame it.
Amy's Wikipedia page for years was just people dunking on her character up until about like 5 years ago for example.
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>>571325269
I could probably give some complicated spiel justifying it, but the truth is I just want these two to fuck.
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>>571325887
>now everything is about them
He was only relevant for two games before he became a minor character for 15 years only coming back in a serious capacity because his debut game inspired a movie
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>>571326320
>>571326718
No I'm saying "if you include Shadow he overshadows whatever Sonic has going on" because he's a second Sonic. He lead his own team in 3 games. He is another Sonic and broke the structure of the cast.

I'd argue Silver and Blaze do this as well.
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>>571326115
Is anyone else having issues with catbox? Can't seem to access anything
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>>571326647
You saw her cumming all over the thread? Did she attach a video?
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>>571326462
>creepy looney tune

No Yuri ships on his watch
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>>571326115
Wait you are animating the entirety of Honine??
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>>571326479
The problem is Ian's writing. It always has been. He's the only western writer that removes Amy's love and passion and Sonic Team doesn't bother to stop him. All the other IDW writers portray Amy with her love and passion intact but Sonic Team didn't tell them to do that, it's just that those writers actually care about Amy's character
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Wonder where Tailsyume is. Been about a year
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>>571326718
I know right? But the way people vitch an moan about him "ruining" the series, you would think he was the center of attention for the last 20 years.
He appeared in SA2. Was just as minor as everyone else in Heroes. Had his own spinoff game and then had a lead role in 06 where his place in the series was solidified and that was it.
From there, he is a renegade anti-hero whose defining trait is he doesnt tolerate troublemakers who trifle with forces they don't understand and has an anime rivalry with Sonic, and sometimes his past tries to creep back up on him.
Which is perfectly fine for a mascot character.
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should i find it concerning that one of the only verifiable women in the general loved the idea of torturing her favorite boi (or at least an evil version of him) until he fell in love with her? is this normal?
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>>571326942
No, that didn't happen. SA2's story still heavily revolves around Sonic, Team Dark has a minor role in Heroes, Sonic 2006 gives Sonic his own story that's fully focused on his character and the way he lives his life (no, you disliking that story and finding Shadow's more interesting is irrelevant, Sonic still has his own story with negligible Shadow involvement), then after that the only time Shadow was relevant was for a Forces prequel, Forces itself is still all about Sonic with Shadow being only a minor appearance

The only two times Shadow is the one and only real focus is in his two dedicated games, otherwise he had half or a third of a game at most (and that's being generous since those games focused on many other characters as well, not just the hedgehogs)
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>>571326684
sonic fans are genuinely dense to an extent, they think sonic not wanting to commit and not showing blatant attraction means he finds her as a stalker and does not have any potential romance feelings for him

st not laying down shadow's quirks means he either is expected to soften up or is portrayed as an overly agressive jobber (instead of cold blooded and hostile as a business minded thing)

st not laying down silver's personality traits means uwuver is actually getting into ''canon'' media to the point he becomes blaze's damsel in distress.

people not understanding why silver and blaze are a duo, people not understanding a lot of the point about 06 altogether. (though desu, this one is actually more esoteric than the other stuff)

all of it could be prevented if they just laid this stufff clear.
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>>571326551
Because she agrees with me
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>>571326965
https://litter.catbox.moe/apl0zhx9fc0fmrj2.webm
try this
>>571327081
i plan on doing so
this is all for now though
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>>571327079
>No girl on girl action

I hate that wabbit
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>>571327226
i think it's mostly because people want their favorite to get some stuff too, and most of them are relegated as racing car spinoff/comic onlly past 06.
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>>571326907
They are making point-and-click adventure noir sequel to TMoStH ala Chaotix Case Files, right? RIGHT?
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>>571326942
Amy leads her oen team in 3 games as well and is "another Sonic", so why isnt it an issue with her?

>He is another Sonic and broke the structure of the cast.
This didnt happen in Forces at all though and he was used just fine.
>Blaze and Silver
Blaze sure, but Silver was also in Forces just fine.

Shadow himself didnt break anything. Its the characters that came after that tried to recreate his effect that caused issues.

Silver is pnly an issue if you try and push SSS shit. He is fine as just some psychic dude from the future.

Blaze though actually handicaps the setting and universe.
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>>571326707
fuckkkk mannnn.. If I got all the money in thw world I would've commission this nigga for 60+ page /ss/ Tails porn comic
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>>571327117
I saw some rare posts in recent months that I strongly suspect are hers. I think she doesn't like coming here anymore because of us lol
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TELL THEM NIGGAS
tell them
I went fast.
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>>571326551
>She draw Blaze limbless being fucked by Silver
As oppose to some Blazefags drawing Blaze getting raped by sonic;exe sounds much more better? the entire pic is from a fanfic where blaze lost her hand in an accident and her and Silver are stranded in another dimension for 10years.
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>>571327087
Ian is the only person who has to work with a version of Amy that has to talk and has voice direction though.
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>>571327117
Got raped by blacks
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>>571327271
Did that happen? Maybe I have my mental timeline wrong, but I remember her loving Tails before Prime existed.

>>571327494
>most of them are relegated as racing car spinoff/comic onlly past 06.
Like Shadow from 2007 to 2016 and from 2018 to 2023.
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>>571326551
>Limbless
Why do Blazefags are always the ones who exaggerate stories? maybe because Blaze herself in exaggerated?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMEAh5rhsc

What did the fanbase mean by this?
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silvaze only exists for fluff angst and wank
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>>571327335
Even if they did it wouldn't matter becaude the simple truth is most of these people dont play the games.
A lot of this stuff is stated blatantly to the audience and people still ignore it or make excuses for it anyway.
A lot of these people simply consume fanon instead.
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>>571327708
Yes but he removes Amy's love and passion because he hates her canon character due to his attachment to Archie. He does out of malice, not ignorance. If he were ignorant, he would've taken advice from the fandom by now and incorporated it into the games but he doesn't
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>>571327635
I wasn’t around for her presence but I could guess why. Just how bad was it lol
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>>571327689
So fast his molecular structure couldn't keep up and he phase changed.
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>>571328291
So this is what Tails Yume got off to (nice)
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>>571328016
Anon it doesn't even exist for any of those, it doesn't hit the bare minimum
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>>571328230 (me)
*He does it
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>>571327335
>why Silver and Blaze are a duo
>esoteric
Yes but also they are only a duo for the sake of themes; there's no actual lore reason for them to be together. There is no actual answer to "why".
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>>571328245
Oh no she didn't say anything bad recently. I just saw some normal posts that looked like her typing style or had images/filenames she would use
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>>571328336
Just beating up a guy? Is she a sadist or something lol wtf
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>>571327494
Yes, people are just jealous or bitter that he is popular and think their pet character should be shilled in order to get a perceived slice of the pie.
That and Shadow fans being pretty insufferable a lot of the time.

But Shadow himself is in fact not overused or overshadowing anyone or anything. Dunking on him won't make their pet character more popular.
>>571328230
He hasn't worked on anything in the games since though.
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>>571328058
sonamy(no i dont mean them kissing and dating) is blatantly stated in some insider stuff but i don't think most games besides maybe frontiers made it clear.

the rest of what i said is a bit too esoteric or ruined by localization for people to not misunderstand. ean and ivan played 06 and yet
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>>571327079
Kek he would seethe over Tangle not getting with Silver
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>>571328512
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559627808/#q559635930
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>>571328518
sonic should probably go with the route of each chara having some spinoffs around em (at least the soniclikes and maybe knuckles) but they probably dont have enough of a budget to consider it
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>>571328568
Oh I remember that post. She must be compensating for something.
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>>571328750
you should have been here for her eyeball stuff. i'm not going to look it up because it makes me actually sick. she got off to torturing Tails and Nine
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>>571328650
Blaze wouldn't be able to carry such a thing.
Silver might if only because his psychokinesis can make for interesting gameplay but thats kind of it.
Knuckles frankly NEEDS it because most of the things that make him cool dont even really work in modern sonic gameplay anymore.
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>>571327435
It works, thanks! Great job on the animation. Very fluid and captures the characters well, especially Breezie
>>571328568
Based.
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>>571320186
What would you even have done
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>>571328436
they have an internal lore reason for it, you just wont like whatever that is.
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>>571328828
That must’ve been before I started lurking here then. I’ve only been here since November.
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>>571326115
Oh so that's why you stopped doing requests
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>>571328641
Can you post images now?
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>>571326551
>She draw Blaze limbless being fucked by Silver
>>571327705
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>>571328518
>He hasn't worked on anything in the games since though.
He worked on Frontiers, Sonic x Shadow Generations, and Crossworlds and in Frontiers and Crossworlds, he removed Amy's love and passion in the English versions and he got away with it. he also got away with making Sonic ungratefully and rudely replacing a photo of Amy that she gave him in a heart-shaped frame with a photo of him and Tails drawing a silly face on the back of Eggman's head with a marker in one of the Tailstube episodes.
he got away with all of this because Sonic Team lets it happen because they're a bunch of lazy morons who don't care. If Ian had tried to do all this change and adulteration to Shadow's character, Takashi Iizuka would've immediately stepped in to prevent it
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Girls have a thing for gore, I'm noticing.
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sthg men: i want to convince surge to love sonic for real and make sweet love
sthg women: HONEY SHOULD RAPE RAPE RAPE THE SHIT OUT OF TAILS RAPE HIM RAPE THE SHOTA I LOVE RAPE
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>>571329147
Yep it works fine now
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>>571328568
What the hell is wrong with this fandom?
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>>571329296
Girls really do come from Venus, an uninhabitable hellhole.
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>>571328539
Who cares cause soon Deltarune fans will be the most loudest fuxlers on the internet and Based Toby loves his yaoi/yiri ships
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>>571329106
It was around February 2025.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/d7tjbe.jpeg
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>>571329261
>He worked on Frontiers
Yes, the game everyone points to.
>Sonic x Shadow Generations,
Where Amy isnt even there.
>Crossworlds, he removed Amy's love and passion in the English versions and he got away with it.
Is it in the japanese version?
>he also got away with making Sonic ungratefully and rudely replacing a photo of Amy that she gave him in a heart-shaped frame with a photo of him and Tails drawing a silly face on the back of Eggman's head with a marker in one of the Tailstube episodes.
This is him trying to push a Sonic Boom gag. Boom did things like that.
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>>571329060
Probably. Whatever reason they may have is a retarded retcon for Blaze that crippled both of their characters and still doesn't pare down into anything meaningful.
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>>571326115
I remember the confusion over the fact that Honine was written long before this actually happened in Sonic Prime. Lucky guesser.
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>>571329684
This


I'm excited for the obvious downpour of Asgore lewds
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>>571329817
it most likely was not a retcon.

well you don't have to like it. but there is an internal reason for it
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>>571327587
Me too anon, me too.
>>571329325
/sthg/ women have the right idea then, it seems.
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>>571329325
Also sthg men: >>571322853
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>No I don't like Steven universe Sonic Boom Undertale or Jaiden animations

I honestly miss this era i hate it here everyone so weird and rude now
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>>571329780
Amy's love and passion is in the Japanese version.
Ian Flynn has openly stated on his podcast that he wants modern Amy to be more like Boom Amy. That explains everything that's been happening to her under his penmanship but it's not his business to do that to Amy. It's a corruption of her character and a way of going agains the creators' and fan's wishes
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>>571327330
NTA but if Shadow had such a minor role, why is Shadow getting half or a third of a game dedicated to him over the legacy cast, who all basically became accessories to Sonic?

I also wouldn't say that Shadow had a minor role in Heroes as him coming back from the dead is treated a major revelation that set up future plot points for later games. No other team has that. Shadow was a major narrative fixture of the Dark Age.
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>>571330142
Seriously someone explain this
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>>571329870
Honey wasn’t in Sonic Prime.
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>>571329962
Shadow being an alien isn't technically a "retcon" but it changes the direction of his character so drastically it might as well be.
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Wholesome crushes are cute.
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>>571330346
I mean Nine screwing over the multiverse and being hated for it
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>>571330147
>Jaidenanimation

Why can't people just be normal about these types of creatures it's a love hate relationship with pretty much all of them now or drama not even guy's like splash dash or Mark is safe from this shit
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>>571330209
Yeah, Shadow exists in Heroes, that's not him "taking over the entire game". As I said, even in the two instances he had half/a third of a game, that's still an exaggeration because other characters were also heavily focused on. SA2 focuses on everyone more or less equally, and Sonic 2006 gives everyone some focus, to heavily varying degrees, but everyone still has at least a little something going on, unlike later games where they literally get nothing (Shadow included). Your question is basically "if Shadow didn't take over the entire series then why does he exist?"
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>>571330373
i don't think shth actually was fine for shadow myself.
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>>571330552
* i think
>>571330373
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>>571328016
It's funny how much they love angst
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>>571330797
>>571330552
Yeah well I don't. Shadow in SA2 and 06 is about forgiving the darker aspects of humanity and giving them a chance to be happy which was better as a struggle between Gerald vs Maria. Now it's just hungry ayylmaos.
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>>571327705
>It's ok when Silvazefags do it
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>>571330209
>half or a third of a game dedicated to him over the legacy cast,
This didnt happen though.
SA2, as much as it's is seen as "Shadow's game" Shadow himself in it mostly functions as a rival character for Sonic to have an anime rivalry with, and his background stuff comes up to set up the finally and his sacrifice.
Through most of the game he doesnt actually upstage or take focus from anyone. He is functionally a henchmen helping Eggman with his plan, until in the end it's revealed Shadow knew everything would go to shit. But he never takes anyone's thunder or robs anyone of their aura.

Heroes, he is a sidekick to Rouge mostly in that game. People see Team Dark as "his team" but thats mostly because of 06.
He is being hard wrangled in Heroes and what intrigue in the game exists around him is just set up for his game.
Meanwhile Amy is running fade with her own crew, Big the Cat and Cream the rabbit too (she so damn short tho)
And thr Chaotix of thr bumbling 3 man band reintroduced in this very game setting up for Neo Metal.
Heroes is still decidedly NeoMetal's aura farming game. Shadow doesnt even go super. Sonic does and teams up with Tails and Knuckles.

Really what he got was his own game and having the story people thought was cooler in 06. Thats literally it.
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>>571326115
Scribble is an odd windfag. He can write those sega character descriptions like a JP purism autist but his ships will be "FUCK IT ARIEM AND SAM SPEED". So this is an Everythingfag.
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Shadow only has like 4 stages in SA2 lol
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>>571330458
The newer sonctubers on the scene right now are really good imo
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>>571330373
>it changes the direction of his character so drastically it might as well be.
Does it though?
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>>571331289
>ariem and sam speed
Dude, fuck yes.
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>>571331328
Which ones are you thinking of
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>>571331105
well i personally interpret it as different, to me, shadow couldn't sustain the power of super form because his conviction was mostly not enough, he traded his anger/gerald's wishes for maria's wishes, but it was still not his own view. this is partly why ''boku'' was choosen as it implies servitude and his character is reminiscent of a butler a bit.

so here we go with shth, sonic's freedom gets modified as ''autonomy'' identity search etc.
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>>571331359
yes >>571331105
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>>571331289
Understanding the characters can give you access to shitposting powers beyond comprehension
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Isn't the alien half of shadow supposed to represent the sins of humanity via alien not-demon's blood running through him
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>>571331198
i don't think it's good either way but people ignore that blaze always was popular for ships even before silvaze became mainstream.
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>>571331105
>Now it's just hungry ayylmaos.
That isnt ehat thr Black Srms were. This is an Archieism.
The Black Arms were religious aliens trying to punish humanity for their sins against eachother. Eating them was their way of giving them redemption. That's why it is called the Day of Prosperity.
Ian is the one that made up the notion that it was about being hungry.
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>>571331289
He would do Sam Speed and Danica Patrick
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>>571331494
Well yeah so you agree they changed the themes of his character. His theme song reflects this. Throw It All Away is more about the "light" Maria being the good parts of humanity. All Hail Shadow is more inline with what you're talking about.
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>>571331293
The movie is guilty of the upstaging and shilling of shadow more than SA2 or the games were desu.
Having Shadow 1 v 3 Team Sonic like people predicted because the movies lack class lol
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>>571330517
>that's not him "taking over the entire game"

Shadow's team had the most gameplay content dedicated to them by having the longest levels. Likewise, Shadow's 06 story generally being best the best narratively of the three which does kinda point to ST feeling more comfortable writing Shadow over Sonic.

>>571331214
Shadow being the only character in Heroes to have narrative set up for future games is my point though. Shadow was the only character during the Dark Age to have continuity across games like that.

Also, SA2 IS Shadow's game, if you take out his backstory with GUN and his sacrifice away and just make Shadow a henchman for Eggman, would SA2 be as impactful?
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>>571315939
As if they won't be baddie friends lmfao
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>>571331656
Wait fuck you're right that actually makes sense with his themes. They're literally satan and Shadow is edgy Jesus here to absolve humanity of their sins. Which is why Shadow sacrifices himself to absolve GUN and Gerald.
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>>571331656
i wonder if mephiles had a connection to this stuff considering how much similarities to shadow he has and he has a similar motivation
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>>571332004
>Shadow's 06 story generally being best the best narratively of the three
That's your opinion. I think Sonic's is better, it shows his lifestyle and Elise has a good arc. Also Shadow has the worst gameplay in 2006 in my opinion, his combat is really slow and boring.
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>>571331656
The Black Arms...vs my oc
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>>571332004
>Likewise, Shadow's 06 story generally being best the best narratively of the three
And ST then proceeded to mischaracterize him horribly for over a decade. Feelsbadman
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>>571332208
The Black Arms vs… Cherry Cola
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>>571331498
See>>571331656
The black arms still play into those themes because their whole deal was punishing humanity for their sins. They represent the hatred and contempt for humanity shadow has, his alienness from the rest of the world and how he will always been see as a danger and a freak, and how shadow chooses to oppose that.
Black doom sees it as trying to save humanity from themselves because they are unsalvageable.

https://youtu.be/3D_1oJn-h5Y?t=3202
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>more surge tsundere art on my timeline
why do they keep doing this
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>>571332348
Except it
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>>571332409
That isn't the right word
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>>571332319
>>571332123
do you think thhey have a thematic connection with mephiles?
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Doom Tentacals
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>>571328568
She was definitely masturbating as she typed this.
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Who has that pic of Tails' paws
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Remember, the reason Evan gets away with UWUver when she writes the IDW comics is because Sonic Team doesn't bother to give her notes that emphasize Silver's cool and assertive side. This also explains why Ian is able to get away with lobotomizing Amy. They don't send him notes that say she needs to be energetic and express for Sonic both verbally and physically. It's all Sonic Team's fault
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>>571332850
Idk what pic you mean
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>>571332880
ST cares the most about Sonic and Shadow's characterizations and they only care enough to prevent it sounding like an outright different person like in Archie
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>>571332513
IIRC Mephiles is Shadow's shadow and is the same kind of thing Shadow is (selfish experiment to save a loved one gone awry) and basically wants Shadow to agree with Gerald and Black Doom by telling Shadow humanity will betray him.
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>>571332123
Mephiles was born from the Solaris Project and them massing with the flame trying to use it to control time and space (this mirrors how Peoject Shadow researched chaos control) mephiles resents humanity for messing with him. >>571332004
>Shadow being the only character in Heroes to have narrative set up for future games is my point though.
Shadow was the only character during the Dark Age to have continuity across games like that.
Shadow is the only character to really have in your face continuity in general though.
Outside of SA1, which was more of a reestablishing of the characters for the modern era and their new status' and directions, none of the core cast really got this in general. They always have more subtle progression as characters. This was always the case.
Its not that Shadow robbed this attention from other characters. Tails already reached his apex by SA2 and now is a peer in Heroes. Amy actually leveled up going into Heroes since now she ran her own squad and is fighting Eggman directly.
Chaotix was rebooted for this very game. And Metal Sonic was given an actual character and tons of aura in this game.

It sounds to me like youre just upset Shadow is interesting.
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>>571333069
its a bit interesting rush releases the same date as shth and has random GUNbots as well, and well, 06 is very ''shadow's world'' themed to say. i am not sure what it means.
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As your flesh bears the sigil so your name shall be known as that of a recusant

Surgefags I'm talking to you and your character
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>>571332123
>>571332513
Wasn't Iblis first made for Shadow 2005 before being scrapped and reused for Sonic 2006?
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>>571333257
why are you referencing kingdom hearts
i don't understand what your'e saying
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>>571333273
First time I hear of this.
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>>571332951
Tails is perfect for small ass enjoyers and big ass enjoyers too
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shadow the squidbilly
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>>571332525
Freedoms first. In the present and true in the future. Fanfiction is great.
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Okay, did some new mod drop for Sonic Mania? Sale or not, that's a fucking lot of people playing right now.
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>>571325028
>Nipple
GET DOWN MR. ADVERTISER-SAN!!!!!
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>>571333382
True
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>>571332525
No cause i know 2 irl sonic fans who get down straight naaaaaasty no joke lol
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>>571332525
Sign me up big dog
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>>571333009
I don't even think they care about Sonic at this point, just Shadow. Look at how much of an immature motormouth Sonic was in Sonic Prime. That's nothing like his game personality.
This is the Shadow the Hedgehog franchise now because Shadow is Iizuka's pet character and he could care less about the others
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>>571330949
>>571332525
Where are you finding this stuff?
>>571333530
>sonic.exe
Should it be any surprise?
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>>571333547
I think the fact that movie shadow was relatively in character should tell us that Sega actually cares more about shadow now
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>>571333515
the threads gonna get nuked again
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>>571333240(me)
>>571333273

proto blaze looks a lot like mephiles as well, it being too shadow like is why it was scrapped to begin with so i find it interesting.
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>>571333524
Gosh I love a chubby Tails <3
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>>571333646
Again? What did I miss?
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>>571333640
Something something, wait until 2027 (forma despair).
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>>571333640
he's iizuka's child
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>>571333656
>>571333240
Idk if these have anything to do with each other lorewise. Maybe Sonic Team thought if someone was going to buy one game they would have a chance at seeing the other?
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>>571333640
All at the expense of Sonic, Silver, and Amy. Don't forget that Sonic Prime is supposed to be canon yet Sonic was wildly out of character in it
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>>571333721
Sonic's ass making jannies cum violently, they purged it in fear of lusting for him again.
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>>571333694
His butt and belly have a nice shape
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Movie Sonic: Zoomer stereotype with adhd
Movie Tails: Just Tails but a stalker
Movie Knuckles: African drax
Movie Shadow: literally more in-character than canon material like IDW
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>>571332259
I don't think Shadow is being mischaracterized that greatly I just don't think his themes really afford him much engagement with an ensemble cast so they opt for him to be a cop that scuffles with Sonic.
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>>571333880
i don't dislike shadow, i think he deserves to be in character, i just wish sonic team was more clear about who the characters are.
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>>571333880
No one in Prime is really in character though.
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>>571333850
maybe not extremely directly but thematics wise yes. 06 is technically a sequel to both rush and shth too.
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>>571333315
a recusant is someone who absolutely refuses to submit to authority or social norms or established hierarchies no matter what even if they would be benefit from such an act, the chunni is saying that surge and her fans are doomed to be this just like the character herself, the sigil and flesh baring part is just chunnism.

If he were sane he'd say it like this

"You know, Surge is basically doomed to be a rebel without a cause,right surgefags?"

and if he wanted to start a war he'd say something like this

You know, the most popular characters in the series everybody talks about, Sonic, Surge, Shadow, Eggman are all just endless rebels without causes, it's no wonder sonic isn't popular in japan, they love authority and heriarchies there Sonic actively stands against those as does his antagonist, Doctor Eggman constantly rebelling against authority is more of a western appeal since the west promotes individuality ideology vs "for the sake of the overall group" ideology Living for oneself vs living for the sake of others and all that.
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>>571333547
>>571333785
Shadow isn't only Iizuka's favorite. He really is the child of Modern ST.
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sonic has no goal in life. he doesn't want to keep the peace like superman. he doesn't want to become hokage. he doesn't want to be the very best like no one ever was.
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>>571334000
Shadow doesn't work as part of the core cast. He should be off doing his own thing and simply run into Sonic and co by happenstance or shadow trying to take down a threat.
If I had to remake him for Classicz he would be Sonic's Metaknight.
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>>571334213
>Nishiyama liked Knuckles and Shadow
>His OC is girl Knuckles and Shadow fusion
Checks out
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>>571334349
classic shadow is metal, sorta, they even do the ''he actually has a heart'' thing in the ova.
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>>571334242
>want to be the very best like no one ever was
Westslop "localization" trash detected, Satoshi's goal is to become a Pokémon Master. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-lEahV5Q_o
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>>571334213
>Knuckles
>Shadow
>Big
>Eggman
What an interesting roster of beloved character by ST.
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>>571334242
Sonic just wants to have fun, living life to the fullest in the time he has, living life as a series of adventures, going from one to the next!
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>>571333753
A year of Amy is going to punish Iizuka for all his neglect and indifference to her. It's going to force him to care about her.

>>571334002
Same here. Notice the difference. Frontiers' English and Japanese dialogue were vastly different but Shadow Generations got an accurate English-to-Japanese translation because it centers around Shadow. Despicable

>>571334213
Iizuka would gladly starve himself, lose lots of weight and sleep, and nearly die from a heart attack like he did when he was working on Sonic Heroes just for the sake of Shadow's character but not for the characters as a whole
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>>571334213
Why do you keep saying this when Shadow literally jobs to Sonic every time he shows up?
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The Tailsyume is back. Actually, she never left. She’s been disguised as one of the “tailsbros” this entire time.
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>>571334575
Umm... No..????????? he wAnts to MARRY MISTTY
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>>571334789
Marry? He didn't even replace her bike.
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>>571334706
>Shadow Generations got an accurate English-to-Japanese translation because it centers around Shadow
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>>571334497
>classic shadow is metal,
He isn't and Metalfags need to accept Shadow never "snubbed" or "robbed" Metal of anything. This is a revisionist history narrative.
Barely anyone even knew Metal before Heroes.

Metal is an imperfect attempt at recreating Sonic by Eggman.

Shadow is essentially Sonic but he knows how to tap into chaos powers and junk more than Sonic, which pushes Sonic to recon with that stuff more.

This is ehy I make the Metaknight comparison because they have a similar thing going on where MetaKnight tests Kirby.
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>>571334770
How can you tell? Literally how?
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>>571333949
>Movie Tails: Just Tails but a stalker
So Shogaku Ninensei Tails
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>>571334867
the shadow medallion would make this dunnier if you included it in the pic
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>>571334867
Besides picrel, the translation for the rest of the dialogue and cutscenes was accurate
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>>571334716
And yet unlike Metal, Shadow always maintains his aura. This is why Shadow works as a rival while others don't.
He elevates Sonic. The others dont.
Well besides Jet but thats for airboards
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>>571334973
You’re a little bit obvious.
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>>571334982
Cute butt
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>>571334918
i view him more as a combination of metal and sonic, in heroes idle lines he even makes a comment about being attracted to artificial city buildings over nature.
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>>571334487
That's not Akinori Nishiyama, it's Hiroshi Nishiyama.
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>>571334982
>Tails being annoyed and put off by Tails
TAILSBROS!?!??!
WHATS THIS?!?!?
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Metal Sonic, Eggman, and Jet are the only true rivals to Sonic
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>>571335287
HHAHAHAH YOU ACCIDENTALLY SAID TAILS WHEN YOU MEANT TO SAY SONIC HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>571335259
If anything Surge is what you are describing.
It seems very clear to me that the whole ULF vs normal hedgehog and thr superforms + Shadow looking like SuperSonic plus the ability Chaos Control (a concept alluded to in SA1) was the idea with Shadow.
The only thing he really has in comon with Metal is being artificial. But Shadow being genetic superbeing while Metalnis a robot.
But by that logic, Gamma is Metal Sonic.
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>Thread
Alright. Name an obscure character who you really like and wish to see alive and fleshed out.
The character needs to be a literal who. Someone who straight up wouldn't matter to anyone except you.
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>>571335561
Marine the racoon
Sam Speed
Tekno The Canary
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>>571335561
silver
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>>571335220
>>571335287
Dude, I genuinely don't understand what's happening in these comics.
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>>571335561
There are none of those except arguably Honey unless you're dipping into IDW and then those are basically just OCs because any IDW character that actually matters has had several arcs by now. Or unless you're counting non-canon.
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>>571335287
An OOC off-brand off-model side content early 90s manga where a nerdy kid with glasses transforms into Sonic like a super hero
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>>571334576
The Core 4.
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>>571335548
it's a bit interesting we know so much about shadow's past but not why he ended up looking like a hedgehog.
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>>571335760
https://youtu.be/a8MZBUoQt68?si=tVRagozK5a7KePQs
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>>571335704
>haha pee pee and doo doo
The peak of japanese humor
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>>571335760
The Sonic games are canon to the Shogaku Ninensei manga.
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>>571335834
Science naturally dictates that the peak being look like Sonic because the ultimate way to live your life is to the fullest in the time you have. That's why Sonic is thr ULF.
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Shogaku Ninensei Sonic, Fleetway Sonic, and OVA Sonic were all annoyed by their Tails.
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I didn't know there was a Cosmic Eternity remix with Takenobu on it. I love this version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df5HN9eRWZ8
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>>571336064
As their own separate thing? Makes sense. Now, is the manga canon to the games?
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>>571336036
As if americans aren't the same...
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>>571336036
>japanese
It was just the 90s in general. The west had shit, fart and piss jokes as well
https://youtu.be/-VhW4sZkPRQ
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The American 2020s live action Sonic movies have fart jokes as well
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>>571336036
>>571336194
All of mankind appreciates two things: Toilet humor and dick. Never forget.
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>>571336115
So was Game sonic and ova sonic but Tailsfags dont wanna accept this for some reason
As did the player base. People crapped on Tails at first for stalking you in game and fucking you over against bosses and in special stages.
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>>571335561
I think the Verucas would be a cool addition to the Classic side of Sonic. They could be like the Koopalings.
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Say is the museum in crossworlds the museum from chaotix case files by any chance? The levels are all places scanned from the memories of the participants at least I was told that but I don't remember that place, the gold place and rainbow place in games.
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>>571336340
Yeah if anything the west does it more than Japan nowadays. Japan mostly has just fanservice humor.
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>>571336115
They characterfag someone who's seen as an annoying pest, and can't cope with it because he's the greatest character evar and fucks many babes.
Tailsfags are like Tails himself. A failed character.
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>>571336134
Actually Takenobu isn't the singer, but yeah it's catchy.
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>>571336606
>a museum near Station Square
Maybe, interesting idea you had anon
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>>571335561
Need some more criteria because most answers people will give are just gonna be relatively popular. Basically what >>571335742 said. For my part, I'll throw in Dutch. It'd be nice to have a new semi-important human character again after so long and he looks cool.
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Tails is the greatest character evar and fucks many babes
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>>571335561
I dunno how obscure she is but Saffron has a better design than any SoJ-made female and added a lot to Charmy pre-retardening, I miss her a lot.
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>>571336923
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>>571336923
fucks many femboyloving men
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>>571335561
HEAVY
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>>571334982
>T: Hey, please forgive me, Sonic!
>S: What's with that? You're a guy, after all.That's gross.
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>>571337012
Knees weak...
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>>571336923
>gets fucked by many babes
FTFY
>>571337003
Truke.
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>>571337003
Yeah he fucks men too, obviously
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Tails is the greatest character evar and fucks many babies!
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>>571336740
>singer is doing an impression
I see, still very good. Thanks.
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>>571337012
With or without the Western Mechanix fanfic? Personally, I like the Western Mechanix.
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>>571337125
You should probably put him down. It is in the name after all.
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>draws aged up tails
Oops!
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>>571337527
?
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>draws tails with tits
Oops!
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>draws non canon out of character pairing
damn it what's wrong with me
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Who are Sonic's parents
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>>571337527
>>571337667
>>571337715
You hate sonic
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>>571337056
wheres this even from
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>>571337804
The 1992 manga where Sonic is a nerdy kid's super hero transformation who lives with his family in a town of blobians and sometimes the game characters are drawn so off model that they're completely unrecognizable because one of the artists just didn't care at all
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>>571337949
can you send the full panel oor link
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>>571338030
https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-the-hedgehog-shogaku-ninensei/shogaku-ninensei-11/
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>>571333273
No, they just mislabeled that in Shadow Gens.
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>>571338176
Oh, interesting. Where was this said?
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>>571323334
A NSFW 3D modeler whose works were now used for head hacks. Either that, or fucking DAZ.
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>>571336115
None of these are canon though :/

>>571336923
Trvth
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>draws
Oops!
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>>571338339
I didn't even bother with them because they already know anyway, this is some shitty bait lol
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>>571338265
They fixed it in a patch
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>>571338421
Tailshaters are so sad they have to pull shit out of their violated anus
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>>571338451
I see, thanks
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>>571338529
True lol
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Anyways I love Tails
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>>571335696
shut up
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>>571337274
I either don't remember or have never heard of that.
All I know is that I like Heavy.
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>>571334867
English version is better, makes Shadow feel he's matured and isn't an arrogant asshole
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>>571338715
^-^
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>>571334982
>>571337056
Sonic the Homophobe.
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>>571338882
So you hate Shadow
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Japanese Crossworlds rival dialogue is interesting.
Storm mistakes Sonic for Shadow.

Omega makes a comment about Knuckles being last of his kind, to which Knuckles calls him out for also being the last of his kind.
Vector's dialogue to Knuckles is clearly referring to Knuckles Chaotix, calling him a comrade from old times.
Espio does similarly.
Eggman tries to trick Knuckles but it doesnt work lol.
Sage then tries to trick him and Knuckles calls her out for trying to do ehat Eggman does.

Sonic calls Tails is partner and Tails says he isnt his sidekick but his partner to other people.
Shadow actually respects Knuckles as an opponant, which is a lot coming from Shadow.
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Peak!
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>>571339312
I liked when the movies brought this up. Agent Stone was shocked that Sonic and Tails see each other as equals.
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>>571339342
Yes
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>>571336150
Resort Island in Sonic R comes from the Shogaku manga where it's called Hedgehog Island.
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Sonic swats tails in the head for smelling his feet, that's why Sonic got a house instead of crashing tails's joint.
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>>571339371
Is that in the third movie? I still haven't watched it

>>571339406
=)
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>>571339489
Lol no it doesn't they have different names and completely different geography and buildings and everything.
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>>571339558
Movie 3 yes
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>>571339312
Sonic and Tails have like a telepathic bond thing where they trust each other 100% and are in total synergy

>They understand what the other needs without needing to say a word. Perhaps something beyond mere trust exists between them.

So them being equal partners is completely accurate

>>571339558
:D
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>>571339558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRCzwdqkP_Q
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>>571339751
That's beautiful
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>>571339312
>Vector's dialogue to Knuckles is clearly referring to Knuckles Chaotix, calling him a comrade from old times.
He does that in case files as well even calls Metal Sonic Kai by name, but it's fucking weird because they act like it was a long time ago, years ago yet Charmy's age makes it impossible for that to be true, bro is only 6
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>>571339951
Really they just have the best dynamic in the series
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>>571339751
If that were true they wouldn't of had the argument they had in lost worlds, they wouldn't of had the falling out in movie 3 and they wouldn't of came to blows that one time in Archie why are you lying, also
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>>571340052
Ages have been de-canonized.
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>>571334918
>Metal is an imperfect attempt at recreating Sonic by Eggman.
>Shadow is essentially Sonic but he knows how to tap into chaos powers and junk more than Sonic, which pushes Sonic to recon with that stuff more.
I mean
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>>571340432
this line happened before they were decanonized so how are we supposed to reconcile the intent
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>>571340305
I'm starting to feel bad for you guys legitimately
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>>571340090
Yep

>>571340432
The characters not having listed ages on a website is not the same as the characters not having ages in lore
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>>571340494
yea i think shadow was like a progression f it
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>>571340519
Maybe they were internally de-canonized and that decision was only made public later. Regardless both Crossworlds and Casefiles were written in the context that the characters have no set ages.
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Shadow becoming nicer is archieshit for hopecucks
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>>571340905
Literally everything in your post is made up. We don't know why the ages were hidden from Sonic Channel or what is being taken in account regarding the ages when writing the games. Last time we got any official SEGA information on the ages it was the same thing they've been saying since 1998.
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Team Dark are not friends
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>>571339016
for as much as you shadowfags bitch and moan about the character being compared to vegeta you certainly want him to act just like him
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Tailsfags talk like the biggest faggots possible, I actually wish I could physically assault them.
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New Tails from Imada! :D
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>>571341190
Shadow being cold doesn't automatically turn him into Vegeta, Hopecuck
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>hope
Is not deserving of Shadow and never will be.
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>>571341291
You can't take me on

>>571341323
Kino
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>>571341439
Archie tards think looking like Maria is automatically enough for Shadow
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>>571341335
you just want bejitadow. After all, he doesn't have any friends and goes on and on about being the ultimate prince of all hedgehogs
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Tails? PEAK character never let anons bring you down!
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>>571341653
>If he isn't archiedow that makes him vegeta
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<3
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>>571341625
Why do people find clowns / jesters attractive?
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>Shadow
Will never be good enough for Maria. He doesn't deserve her.
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>>571341879
Cutie
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>>571341657
Do tailsfags really...?
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>>571341896
Tails would have found a real cure
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>Tails
Is not good enough for Sonic and never will be.
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You can't defeat Tailsbros, so don't even try. You keep embarrassing yourself
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tails touched sara's tits
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>>571341806
Jesters are sexual. Clowns idk.
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>>571342387
>Tailsbros
>bros
>s
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>Tails
Is not deserving of the Tornado and never will be.
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>>571342445
Yeah
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Tails is like Gay Luigi
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this thread really petered out, the few of you that are here are really bored
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>>571342529
schizo
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Stop embarrassing yourself Tailshater
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>>571342491
It's okay, he built something even cooler
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>Tails
Is will never good enough for station square.
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Anyone wanna cashapp me cigarette money? I just got scammed from a fake employer. I’ll draw something. not porn, faggot
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Best character evah!
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Tails has no aura unless he gets in the mech.
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>GET IN THE MECH TAILS!
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This is what true unfiltered aura looks like
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Comment
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Save us trans tails poster!
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>>571343148
Mold..
>>571343171
Gold!
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>>571342984
>>571343072
Who's Gendo?
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>>571343248
Sonic obviously.
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>>571343223
They're both great

>>571343248
The Duke of Soleanna
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>>571343148
Soul
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Has Sega not changed its Twitter profile picture to have a rainbow? If so, then I consider that a win
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>>571343148
Nice butt!
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>>571343148
Yeah filters are usually meant to remove the shit. Your image is full of it.
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>>571343301
Sonic is too straightforward for that
>>571343323
>The Duke of Soleanna
Hmm, I'll need to see who everyone else is to figure out if I like this or not
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>>571343376
I always find the pfp change to feel soulless, I hate corpos.
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>>571343331
Cool boys

>>571343430
Yeah!
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Tailshater could you get off my dick for a sec
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Eat birds.
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>>571343469
It is soulless but has Sega not changed their profile pic for alphabet month?
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Metalbros....even Sonic's not-girlfriend is mocking us....
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>hey silver! *pecks kiss on his lips*
>silver: GAGH! WHAT THE HELL?
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>>571343440
It's the aura that isn't filtered, learn to read. Tails is a clean foxboy
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>>571343495
They're so cool!
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>>571343638
blaze...
whisper...
fiona...
gold...
saleta...
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>>571343749
kino
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>>571343615
>Sonic's future girlfriend
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I want you to shoot me, Tails.
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Would Metal Sonic date a Metal Amy
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>>571343548
>Tails seeing this after right after killing 10,000 Kukku troops
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>>571343880
SpongeBob said robots don't have feelings
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>>571343376
Not this year, to my knowledge. People are shitting all over CD Projekt Red for it, though. They released some statement a while ago and people are getting on them for being performative and not doing pride rainbows on some of their regional accounts. Sega probably just avoiding the landmine at this point.
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>Tails
Will be and never be, for the circumstances of his existence is pointless does he feel like he succeeded in his goal or betrayed by his own hubris? Only he knows for sure. He will fly high but his own shadow will always stalk him from behind. The unending void of emptiness consumes. You can only hope you've done your best but you can never truly feel it is so. Left alone in his thoughts forevermore...
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>>571343548
Can’t. No money.
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>>571343721
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>>571339751
>telepathic bond
https://youtu.be/DL_ZjxBfX-0
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>>571343880
Depends. Metal Amy might be more determined than Amy to catch Metal Sonic. Might just make Metal Sonic flee faster to surpass Sonic
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>>571343951
SpongeBob is fundamentally better than Sonic so I can’t argue that.
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>>571343964
Good. We need to keep this up. Apple Slipper and those retarded ultraliberal zoomers who still fall for pride month can go pound sand
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Clapping Amy cheeks
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>>571344093
>Apple Slipper
>>>/mlp/

>retarded ultraliberal zoomers who still fall for pride month can go pound sand
>>>/pol/
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>>571344032
Epic!
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>>571343991
Pantalion...
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>>571344093
If the dems ever take back control in America woke is going to come back way way worse. It's only gone in name and signage only.
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>>571344064
Metal Amy actually chases Sonic. The real Sonic. This fucks metal up because he is supposed to be the real Sonic.
Poor Metaloser
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>>571344036
Cute
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>>571344036
Doesn't this show that Sonic and Amy are meant to be together. They have a telepathic bond no one else possesses
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>>571344068
Spongebob jas been dogshit for longer than Sonic.
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>>571344189
Yeahhhh!

>>571344265
Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>571344367
The cards don't lie
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Hi
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Before we move thread i just wanna say...I'M HERE
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>>571344728
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>>571344728
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>>571344756
REACHING FAR ACROSS THESE NEW
FRON-TIERS!
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>>571342761
Depends, are you willing to draw Fiona Fox calling in a napalm strike on a civilian village, burning bodies reflected in her big ol' eyes?
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>>571344728
Hi Amy!
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Boom Tails!
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>>571344728
hi amybro
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>>571344778
hi cute amyanon
>>571344823
hi cute kitanon
>>571344909
hi cute bunnieanon even if rape always happens
>>571344938
hi!!
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Tails & Cream!
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>>571344869
MAAM YES MAAM for 10 dollars
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Sonic & Tails & Knuckles!
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>>571345153
Alright, reasonable. where am I sending the dough?
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How do i politely tell someone they mean nothing to me
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>>571345091
Tails is making that face because he knows Cream smells like human cum.
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Silver hagmaxxing with Fiona
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>>571345332
>i only came here for the chaos emeralds
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>>571345332
I don't know if that's something that can be done politely.
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>>571345332
If it's over internet chat just don't reply.
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>>571345335
This is so unnecessary mean
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>>571345304
$frenzifacefonz
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>>571345332
>Thanks knuckle head! HOHOHOHOHO!!
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>>571345084
assuming you're the amyanon I think you are it's been a while, hope things have been well for you
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>>571345335
whoever made this image has so much hatred
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>>571345398
A hedgehog after my own heart
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>>571344728
Hello. I'm running out of Amy pictures today.
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>>571345504
One of Idw Sonic best qualities is his empathy towards the cast especially when they need it
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Yeah I love Cream, she such a sexy lewd bunny. Im such a pedo holy shiit.
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>>571345332
Rape them
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>>571345771
>complicated relationship with Surge&Kit
>tention with Espio
>Pretty much even up on Metal
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>>571344584
Sonic and Amy are meant to be together through love
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>>571345332
Nuke israel.
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>>571345657
IDW deserves the hate, they are really such faggot. We need more cmobian children pussy.
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>>571345623
That's very nice, thank you anon!! And probably, I am here almost every day though, unless you meant that you haven't been here in a while. Regardless, I hope you are doing well too.
>>571345679
I wish I could grab cute fanart from twitter but is such a hassle. It doesn't help that the last time I decided to enter the site, there was an amy art trend where everyone was drawing foot fetish pictures...
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Sonic games are fun
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I'm working on a fangame that's based on Hedgehog Engine 2 Sonic games
Let me know if you have any critiques, questions, or suggestions.
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Nuke IDW give us more bunny cunny
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>>571346081
The slope physics is cool and it looks accurate. Like so accurate Icm wondering why you would even want to do this? This looks like the same stuff Sonic Team has been making for 2 decades. Why not just make mods?
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>>571346213
why are you spamming now with cream text now? what triggered you?
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>>571345565
Alright, I eagerly await my war porn
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>>571346283
We need to let people know how shit idw is and we need more cunny!!
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>>571346056
You're using the same photos so yeah you are the one I was thinking off. It's true I haven't been here a whole lot lately, thanks for the well wishes though. Here's an Amy pic if you don't already have it
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tony robbins hungry
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>>571346330
Panel 1 sketch already in progress, MAAM.
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>>571346330
Way to go, 'iona!
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Someone bake new bread now
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Bunny cunny!!!
Fuck idw
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Need more bunny!
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Finally, the end of this shithole
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>>571346763
Sage...
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sayonara, /sthg/...
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>>571346763
sloth hands typed this
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shadow sally wheelchair picture
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>>571346252
>The slope physics is cool and it looks accurate.
Thanks
>Like so accurate Icm wondering why you would even want to do this?
I'm mostly doing this to learn how to use Unreal. Having a reference point is pretty useful.
>Why not just make mods?
I don't find modding as fun as gamedev. I made a custom test stage for testing Shadow Gens' physics and objects and it was way more painful than making a level in Unreal.
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>>571346382
Thank you!!
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>>571346081
We don't care
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>>571346953
sorry the image size is so small, I couldn't find the original version. Here another one, it's sketchier but bigger
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>>571347310
>>571347310
>>571347310
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>>571346081
I don't really have any suggestions or questions but I wish you the best of luck on your project
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>>571347397
Thanks anon!
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>>571346081
Try to add urban terrain like villages, towns, and cities
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>>571347543
I was thinking about making an open level with natural terrain that also has loops and other Sonic stuff.
Maybe I could make a linear stage that's city themed.
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>>571347920
Try that
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>>571346081
Cool
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>>571347274
Weird, I don't have any super amy pics saved but thank you, again
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>>571346904
What’s the matter? Why you leave?
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Sonic characters drugs list
>Knuckles
Salvia, weed
>Rouge
Coke
>Eggman
Ketamine

What else?



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