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>>571352969Church DW Tenna
>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A CIRCUS CLOWN, WHO'S MORE SICK THAN HE FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "WHO IS NEXT?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHO WILL BE?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 3?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
Mew (Mew).
*leapfrogs in*
personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
I'm Black Sans.
>>571353076
>>571353141
>>571353126Now that the next generation is being raised on aislop you’ll never have any more competition than the artists we have now
What If Kris Was Half Saiyan?
>>571353102I like her when she's Mad
>>571351845My two cents is that you have a point, people are too cowardly to truly enjoy/express themselves and are having Perfection be the enemy of good. But many times the emotional highs of Art are reliant on technical execution, it's why the OT of Star Wars works versus the Disney Goner Trilogy. I can enjoy Code Vein, jank incarnate of the weeb souls genre, because of how much it rolls with the cliches instead of being ashamed about it (even if again, jank as fuck in execution in many areas).
>>571353262That bubble will burst within the next 5 years.
>>571353253... why......you little....
>>571353089I DON'T NEED A TV ANYMORE! SPAMTON IS HERE, AND HE I ADORE!
WELCOME TO MY CASTLE TOWN
>... Even if it's broken, it always appears somewhere else.>The prophecy can't be changed, after all.Ralsei is talking about the prophecy screens here, but I think this might also apply to the prophecy itself. In a meta sense, even if you somehow break the prophecy in your version of the game, it will just reappear in someone else's game.
>>571353428People love undertale and its art is incredibly simple.
I will have my fucking freedom
>>571353643>It's prophesying somewhere else
>>571353643i took it to mean that the prophecy is self-correctinglike if someone has to die and you save someone from sacrificing themselves, someone else will get killed instead
Your every action will be judged
>>571353678and so the music has to save it. don't be delusional
>>571353089Let's say you get a spamton nutri-nose.What's the first thing you do?
>>571353704I chuckle at this every time
>>571353917suckle
>>571353678I would say most of UT's art is actually awful, its just good where it needs to be. Like Undyne's cssual sprite is fucking terrible. But the rest of the game is so good that stuff doesnt matter as much.
>>571353823I'm gonna get judged by this hypocrite? Shouldn't he be having sex with intoxicated single mothers instead of judging me? I can't stand this guy and he's phony moral rectitude.
The only real Toby Forgot Moment is why Frisk doesn't just use their gained knowledge of Boss Monster SOULs in a post-neutral/pacifist reset to take Toriel's when she dies if you choose to kill her
>>571353838If you think that’s the only strength of the game you have a pretty miserable outlook
Asgore is very relatableThe pathetic and loathsome parts of his character, I mean, not the noble and cool partsIf you imagine Asgore with zero redeeming qualities and an alcohol problem, that’s me
I love this artist's Mettaton but also I think I'm going to sleep goodnight everyone, I hope you all have a great night, I want Chapter 5 soon...
>>571353262zoomies hate ai and i'm not worried about competition. i've actually grown past all feelings of inadequacy and understand all i can do is what i can do now unless i win the lottery and can focus on art for more than a few hours per day
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Does anyone have an archive link of the thread when the spamton sweepstakes arg was happening? I'm curious to see how it went down here.
>>571353930What's the joke
>>571353678you're completely right but ut's real strength is the plot and gameplay
The shop screens and parallax backgrounds in Undertale are top tier though
rambpins and dr.die had a baby girl and she's so ugly
>>571353536Holy crap someone actually made a gif of this? Awesome
>>571354208good night mttfag
Gentle reminder from Bluesky not to be creepy!
Gentle reminder from fave! *holds up hand with googly eyed sock puppet fave* … hi :D
>>571353917DO NOT BLOW INTO THE NOZZLE
Ramb will be in chapter 5 because Toby loves me and wants me to be happy
Anyone want to share a theory you've seen recently that just leaves you speechless at how stupid or obviously wrong it is?
NOOO RAMBPINS NOOOO
>>571354208Images like this remind me alphys is a good character in undertale and a shit character in deltarune much like undyne
>>571353678The game is way more than the visual aspect, also even then there's a technical part to it (1). There's the writing, music, the encounters, where the game mostly nails really well with only hiccups that don't harm the whole too much (2)>1having a cohesive style that multiple parts of the game work towards is not a given; what is Starfield.>2For a game all about resetting for curiosity's sake, the gameplay can get really repetitive since there's nothing on that axis beyond your final boss (or mid-game Undyne for genocide). Your Toriel fight will be handled the same way for every Neutral/TP run meanwhile in something like Dark Souls, your Vordt's/Asylum Demons have way more variety just from your starting class let alone the mid/late game (or things like consumables).
>>571354315https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/chunk/400600253/
>>571354583The “worthwhile post in /utg/” theory
>>571354315Can anyone help?
>>571354479I still think the rose was removed because it made the implications so obvious that some people thought it was literally what was happening instead of just being metaphorical.
>>571354583The final Prophecy being the banishing of the AngelWhy would Susie give so much of a shit and start having a mental breakdown over "the angel must be banished" if you can literally bring her to a different prophecy that mentions the angel being banished and she won't care?Unless it's like, the Angel looking more clearly like Noelle in the final prophecy specifically, but that assumes Noelle Angel
>>571352549That was me! I didn't save it though but I'm happy you remembered me :D
>>571354665I effortposted last thread…Did you read it…?
>>571354315This is the exact moment the links went up, but do be aware we had an idea of what was going on for a few days before it was gonna happenhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/400433848/#q400436850
>>571354619Jesus christ lol, what was the baby’s first words?
i can only carry 50 cuptains at a time
>>571354583The solo kris fight in the ch5 trailer being the Soul v.s. Kris. The hype moments and aura crowd are being very vocal about it without stopping to realize that there is no circumstance where Kris would want to do that
Chapter's Enemies if they where made by Toby Fox
>>571354762My Sister Can't Be This Erotic
Tenna figure in burgerland never. He will starve.
>>571354646>>571354403Yes, that’s my point!
>>571354858The Shadow Rudinns is really good
the prophecy but they switched roles
>>571353917Don't wait.Don't ask my doctor...if Spamton Nutrinose is right for me.
>>571354852It's blatantly going to be the cyan colored flower from the group of conspicuously human soul-colored flowers but people are allergic to Occam's Razor in this fanbase
>>571354759yes I liked your take on water, I do think the dark is supposed to be similar to Abzu in Sumerian mythology. a primordial sea below everything else.
>>571353089* You remembered that it was actually spelled "pipis".* You realized that if you messed this up again, a phone call wouldn't save you any more than it did your predecessor.
>>571354451kinda makes me think of Nina cortex
>>571354748Noelle Angel in a post Ch.4 world is also a good candidate for dumbest theory ever.Susie saw a depiction of the angel, and was taken aback by how disturbing it is.I'm still fine with it being the player though. Showing a realistic face in a cartoony world would be pretty unsettling. Just like the realistic looking head that the Titan morphs out of, or the faces on Omega Flowey.
>>571354619I need that uncensored immediately
>>571354619LMFAOOOCan I have the uncensored pic?
>>571354858That shadow ruddin is really good
>>571354654>all those spade king postsIs that who I think it is?
>>571354991rambkid…
>>571354959He does actually pronounce it as "Peep-iss" though
i get really sad when my posts are ignored
>>571354761Thanks!!
>You made a team completely out of support enemies. It's like having a "meal" consisting of three glasses of milk.>...Um... and that's, uh, unusual somehow?Ch1 making me remember why people love Lancer so much
>>571354858That Shadow Rudinn is really good.
>>571354901We need a update to this, I know that one drawing of Tenna kicking down the door (forma de pre-ch 3) got spruced up with the canon design
>>571354951Occam's razor would also say that those human soul colored flowers are just a reference to Undertale in chapter 1, where everything tried to reference Undertale by contrasting the two worlds.Such as:Asgore's introduction, Catty and Bratty hating each other, Undyne and Alphys not knowing each other, the Sans "nice to see you again" dialogue, Papyrus and Mettaton being shyly cloistered away inside, and Asriel being alive.The flowers themed after the colors of the souls, but being normal flowers seems pretty par for the course.
83 hours until he actually outs himself as evil and fucked up for real 100% this time
>571355149You will continue to be sad
what is the moral of deltarune that toby wants the audience to learn
>>571355149(kisses you on the nose)I see you, sweetheart.
>>571354998>>571355218STOP IT!!
He's SOOO UGLY and OLD! He's such an OUTDATED and UGLY TV!
>>571354987The only way Noelle Angel can work with that information is if it's Noelle after absorbing a human soul because human-souled-up monsters have been described as "horrible beasts with unfathomable power" and thus Noelle could be unrecognizable in that panel, but if she has a human soul then that's just partially (You) anyway and loops back to Player
>>571355336spamton…
>>571355321thank you...
>>571355297It's okay to spend hours upon hours in a closet with the smelly, vaguely unstable bully.
>>571355336No clue why it’s a hot take to think the figure is good and the plush is shit
>>571355297That pushing away Froggit when she's just trying to open you up is bad and that Queen simply had a change of heart and the Fun Gang lives happily ever after.
>>571354858Cyber Rudinn should be Clippy but with a more snake shaped body and an arm
>>571354583Every "X is the Knight" post, specifically because there are STILL retards who believe Kris is the knight after Kris was fucking fighting against the Knight on-screen, which is an extremely direct de-confirmation of that stupid theory, especially since WE CAN READ SOME OF KRIS'S GOD DAMN SURFACE THOUGHTSand I don't buy any theory about who the Knight is until someone says "I'm the Knight" and also immediately turns into the Knight right in front of us where we can all see it, anything less than this is useless as evidence in favor of the Knight's identity shut the fuck up about Dessknight because you can talk about how plausible it is as much as you want but it didn't happen yet shut the fuck up shut the fuck up we have no confirmation on anything yet and Deltarune isn't a fucking mystery genre game you are all obnoxious die die die die die die e e e e e e e e e e
>>571355297Eating moss and inspecting your friend's beds are things you should be doing more often to live a healthy life
>>571354991>>571354997it's just 2 little dots lmao https://files.catbox.moe/7o6iww.png
>>571354858That Shadow Rudinn is pretty good.
>>571355418I want spend hours with Susie in the closet, even if it means I have to spend years in jail without her.
I cleared out my Deltarune files in AppData but in chapter 1 I can still accidentally skip people's dialogue if I'm running with X and someone starts talking. Is this a chapter 1-ism or am I misremembering how the whole game works? I thought you were only able to skip dialogue the game knows you've seen before.
>>571355457son who the fuck is clippy
>>571355475>it’s just two l-didn’t finish reading already came
>>571355336Plushes like this really remind you Deltarune is not a japanese game. If this was a UFO catcher plush or something it would be so much rounder and cuter instead of the weird spindly and dopey face>Plush, JapanYes.
>>571355297kill jester
>>571355336You're so OLD. Where's your husband? Go home to your family, dude.
>>571355475those 2 little dots are a bit too detailed...
>>571355475thanks I can goon now
>>571355506Both are true. This is how the game works currently, but it used to not let you skip dialogue until you had completion data back in SURVEY_PROGRAM.>>571355516shut uuuup shut UP you're not gonna bait me like that i'm not old
>>571354583This one >>571355337. Because operating based on decade-old Undertale knowledge that hasn't been re-addressed in Deltarune is asinine
who here will face defeat and who will be deified on Wednesday?
>>571355475is there an archive of pippins porn done by /utg/ please tell me there is
I did that one challenge run in Undertale where Sans congratulates you if you don't use a consumable or change your armor or level up for the entire game, and it was fun. I wonder if Deltarune will have something like that. I guess there's the no achievement run but that's only on consoles.
>>571355667Apple Jockington theorist will be struck down by my blade. I, however, will not be deified. I will roam the theorist wasteland looking for a place to die. I serve no master.
>>571355569Deltarune has been the Super Paper Mario replacement I needed in my life
>>571355475Delicious flat chest.
>>571355661Denying the mere possibility of Undertale knowledge being brought back after Chapter 4 threw "monsters still turn to dust" at us out of left field when most assumed monsters could leave corpses is asinine.
>>571355000Let the dead rest, please
>>571355667krisellefags will face defeatasgorefag will be deified
Do you think people's opinions of Asgore will be better or worse after chapter 5?
>>571355667I'm putting all in on the anon who said we're taking the train to Carol's house. I was going to bet on it being an Occam's Razor thing and we just get the flower shop but the more I think about it the more I think it's strange Chapter 4 went out of its way to establish the fact there can be two dark worlds in one chapter. That said, I think Holiday Mansion will JUST be the final dungeon a la Queen's MansionAlso putting all in on Flower Rangers
>>571355841How would that even work though? How are their bodies physically traveling from one place to the other?
>>571355782I, as an intellectual, had long figured this because spamton's hypothetical corpse giveaway prize was still approved by god-king Toby Fox
What would you guys like to see Fujo (or Battat) dance? No promises but you know, ideas are always useful
>>571355756As an old fart who played SPM in middle school did it get a resurgence with Gen Z lately or something?
>>571355297Self-inserting is bad
>>571355840Having bad opinions about Asgore was, is, and will continue to be the wrong choice to make
>>571355841There's actually an overlooked detail that highly implies a Holiday Mansion worldNoelle specifies that the low battery Santas take longer to turn off, yet when you actually turn them off in the game, they stop immediately in one single click just like every other oneWhy would she say this if it's flat out not true in actual gameplay? Because it relates to how you spare the Santas as enemies, not how they work in the light world
I don't have my save files ready, is es over für mich?
>>571355963caramelldansen
i will be forgotten
>>571355908I'm sure he can make up some new rule about two open dark fountains being able to be connected by dark energy or yadda yaddaIf he does the train he can rip off Excess Express from Paper Mario TTYD and the ghost train from Final Fantasy 6 which is the bigger reason.
>>571356076Who the hell are you?
>>571356061Like the full thing? I already did the meme part
>>571355920Spamton also mentions [graveyard dust] in that item's description.
>>571355297The same thing he said when he did that one interview a long time ago, because Toby Fox isn't trying to be fucking Aesop.
>>571356147he is woke deal with it
>>571356076Noelle...
>>571356147this is the one where he skips 70% of the questions right
Ok now i need a link to the thread for the second arg, before ch3 and 4 were released.
>>571356147I actually agree with him not trying to be Aesop and that his games are more of an exploration of "wouldn't it be cool if X happened in a game" lolAnyone who thinks the message of Undertale is "violence is bad" doesn't seem to realize how much Toby loves and works on games where you beat things up
>>571355963jitterbug, or just a romantic slow dance
>>571356045It'll take a good day to get up to speed again. Maybe more if you're after all secrets or all super bosses.
>>571354987I just don't see any appeal to Noelle Angel as a potential plot point. Maybe it's because every version of the theory I've seen involves her "crashing out" over Dess and/or Rudy being dead, which is pretty much just Undertale but less interesting. It might be interesting to see her as a puppet for the real Angel, but not as the Angel itself.
i know what it's like
>>571355963the shadow and pace dance from self paced
>>571356260Yeah that's the one, you have to use Internet Archive to read it now>>571356182>le woke!He's been pretty consistent in giving more favor to players who commit one way or another to being a total dickwad or a total "hug and love everybody" playthrough, and less favor to people who go for neutral runsI think he just finds it more interesting to do more for people who go for extremes and look for secrets and shit while playing
>>571356076THAT'S RIGHT, BITCH.FUCK YOUAND YOUR EGGS.
Q: Regarding your diet, can you give us any updates?Tenna: Skip
has anyone drawn a goat skull child of toriel and sans because that has potential to look really cool
Sorry no more fun speculation about the dark worlds. Chapter 5 is the flower shop. Chapter 6 is the holiday house. And chapter 7 is the shelter. No other dark worlds will be made.
Ralsei being larger than Kris is proof that Kris wants to fuck their big bro
>>571356279What has he said in defence of said games.
>Go look at some milk and grow your eye bones!>What do I do with my leftover milk? Just look at it?You can tell that Milk Looker is Toby's favorite NPC by chapter 4 because even other NPCs reference them
>>571356394I think I recall a picture like that, but I know not the artist, if indeed it came with a name.
Just a quick reminder that Fathers Day is for dads, NOT ghosts in shells
>>571356492I think I saw one made by the "based on my aunt" artist but I kind of think that guy's art is ugly as hell
>>571355516Clippy is kind of like Charlie Kirk for uncs
>>571356409you have to be careful about saying these things, because somebody will believe it and I suspect you unironically do
>>571355516You must be over the age of 18 to use 4chan
>>571356541Man, he is never going to let that down.
>>571356394>
>>571355569Is there any fanart of that but with Berdly
>>571356673Berdly did nothing wrong
>>571355289evil or good im kissing him
>"dood Deltarune is how escapism is bad!"Is there a more brainlet take than thinking Toby wants us to believe Ralsei is correct in believing his life is meaningless and he has no value?
>>571356673deltarune 2
>>571356394that’s like the default
>>571356269Sorry for being greedy
>>571356394Toriel's post-menopause and her womb is dust.
>>571356752You dont understand, escapism is good for the characters, but bad for you.
>>571356803You could probably find it on b4k if you search the right words, just look. I believe in you. Just use words the ARG used
>>571356853A tomb is a perfect place for a skelelet.
Wuh-oh! Someone's gettin' their snoot booped!
>>571356792
>>571356752Chapter 1: Escapism can bring people togetherChapter 2: Escapism can be a bad thing in excessChapter 3: Escapism can be an important way to maintain a relationship with your loved ones.The Fun Gang actually handles the situation in a pretty healthy way. They'll engage in Tenna's game to make him and Ralsei happy, and because leaving the fountain open for a little while isn't going to hurt anyone (as far as they know). But when it gets to go too far, they do the right thing and tend to their responsibilities.What would chapter 4 represent then? I guess we won't fully know until later, but I think it'll be about Fate, and the different aspects of accepting, dodging, or changing your fate.
This is how I live
SOON
Is the escapism thing entirely because of the discussion Noelle and Berdly have at the end of Chapter 2
>>571355908Asgore pays rent to Carol meaning that she is the actual owner of the Flower King building. She's obsessed with keeping everything important in her home, so she has a secret tunnel between the basements of her home and Flower King because both have things that are important to her, like the conspiracy stuff in Asgore's basement. It might also connect to the shelter, which is why her basement has the same background noise as the outside of the shelter and why Queen's basement parallels the bit of the shelter we see in the sword route. (I think that the school supply closet is probably linked to the shelter too, but that's unrelated.)Alternatively, there may be something up with the sewers under Hometown, or you use whatever transportation method Ralsei has been using the whole game. But secret tunnels are cool.
>>571357243you
82 hours until Chapter 5!
>>571357243Mewfag
>>571356269https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/523046121/
>>571357243>>571357289wait no i didnt mean it
>>571357140I feel like this mentally
Uh oh starting too hallucinate too sweepy
>>571355965kind of? i think it's quietly maintained its popularity over the years among the demographic that normally plays these kinds of games, and the ttyd remake and all of the modern paper marios still sucking might've helped a little, but it hasn't blown up on tiktok or anythingi have seen a weirdly large amount of spm porn lately, but i'm not sure if it's just a coincidence/spoiler]
I'm ready for Papyrus>b-but Toby said--I'm ready for Papyrus>b-but he's probably the forgotten--I'm ready for Papyrus
>>571357345kiddo... if you keep going the way you are now...
>>571357306So helpful sniff sniff...
>>571357382yeah anon I can tell
>>571356025 (me)Actually nevermind, that was a hint for the Kris vs. (You) closet fightIt does take Kris longer to turn off the lower pitched SantaFeel like mentioning that the video I looked at to remind myself how the mechanics worked there was titled fucking "Chara rips out Kris from body"
>>571357104escapism can bring together a community? cause it's focused religion n church
The moral of the story is kissing Fave's pink butthole
this room is so cute
>>571357243doomerdoomerdoomer
>>571357089what font is this for the kiddo
>>571357104Noess you're the player in which case you don't deserve any of that
>>571357489I’m too busy staring at how cute folly is in pajamas
>>571353076>>571353245churchtenna my beloved
>>571357236Maybe I'm just reading into things a bit too much, but I felt like Susie was way too into getting back to the Dark World just to be there rather than because there's any actual need for them. This attitude contrasts nicely against her attitude at the start of chapter 3. I also read Berdly's association with Queen as trying to live out a fantasy, and run from his own inadequacies. Queen fills each of their rooms with different distractions that she thinks they'll be so interested in they won't bother trying to escape.again, maybe I'm just reaching, but I get an undertone of "Try and play along, and have fun" from Chapter 1, and an air of "This is a lot more fun than actually doing our job" from Chapter 2.
>>571356632It's just really funny to write that in close proximity to the same character having her tits groped
Chapter 2 basically spoils the entire game. Queen is an exaggerated and cartoony version of Carol, and she wants to turn Noelle into a knight. One of the enemies, Werewires,are described as "sleepwalking through a nightmare". I believe that Carol is able to put Noelle into some sort of trance, similar to what we do in the weird route, turning her into The Roaring Knight so that Kris can traverse her memories, or more accurately, dark worlds shaped subconsciously by Noelle's memories, ones that she may have suppressed. Carol wants to learn what happened to Dess, and she believes that Noelle might know somehow, so she's making Kris report back to her what they saw in the dark worlds the knight created.Basically CarolKnighters are half right in that she's not actually the Knight herself, but the puppeteer.
>>571357472its ok for it to not be pink
>>571357527Neue
Susie said we're going back to the Holiday mansion tomorrow because she wants to get the guitar code so I think that's probably going to happen whether it becomes a dark world or not
>>571356896Also the game hates you if you do the evil route even though Susie and Noelle also did the evil route and Kris killed a bunch of Yoshis for no reason
>>571357236It started with chapter 1, got “reinforced” by chapter 2, and then was shot in the back of the head by chapters 3-4. The only place I see it brought up at all anymore is 4chan, and that’s because there’s these people who hold onto ideas for years, even if they’ve been proving wrong. It keeps repeating.God the arguments about deltarune being “anti escapism” were so fucking tiring, since it was absolutely nothingburger to talk about and the same 5 images got posted everytime.
>>571357460Well yeah, but there isn't all that much focus on Community as a whole in Chapter 4. No one's doing the learning.Also, it's a bit cynical to call religion a form of escapism. I don't doubt some left wing writers would take that position, but the vibe I got from the church scene in chapter 4 was that Toby doesn't want to get all anti-religion in this story by calling it escapism. Even if it's meant as a good thing overall.
>>571357743Toby Forgot about that
>>5713531413 days until him
>>571357236Deltarune as commentary on escapism was a really common way to analyze the story, because the Dark Worlds are literally fiction made manifest and each stem from some source of entertainment (Traditional Games, The Internet / Computers, Television). As stated earlier though this interpretation has kind of died down because Chapter 4 was less overt about it, and the game doesn't really seem to be putting as much attention on it as people thought it would during the post-Chapter 2 period.
Chapter 3 should've had a part where you find yourself in the Pit of Abandoned Lizards and it's full of zombie Not-Yoshis going "Kriiisss... why did you jump off of me Kriiiisssss... I had a familyyy..."
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>>571357708The way this artist draws Carol is horrendously off model but man does it make my dick hardSorry that's gross
>>571357792i'm sure he will be very kind and nice :) great work anon
>>571357792this is cool anon if I was a youtuber I would steal this for my video
>>571357907It only looks off-model because her head-to-body proportions are essentially inverse that of everyone else in Deltarune
>>571357843Despite the lesser focus on Escapism Bad a lot of people do seem to insist that the Knight's entire deal is that they're Escapisming by trying to bring Dess back to life and Susie will have to tell them that Escapism Bad and to Move On at the climax of the game
Almost caught up. How long is it going to take me to beat the knight. I think that's going to be my wall but I've got all day tomorrow to grind it out.
>>571357792Nope, nuh uh, not doing this shit again man
>>571357907I agree with everything you said here
>>571357992You thenk Toby's not going to bring dess back and have every character alive and safe at the end
What if Friend isn’t evil or a manipulator or whatever, and is instead a really awkward and shy guy that desperately wants to be your friend. He laughs because he’s nervous.
>>571358080then why did he make dess rape kris
>>571354479Yeah, there's a difference, right? We aren't raping her pussy, we're raping her soul, that's like, way less bad.
>>571357792holy shit this is amazing, props to you anon
>>571358010
>>571357792Smells like AI
>>571357907Canonrol looks like the Grinch so it's fine drawing her off-model
>>571358080>really awkward and shy guy that desperately wants to be your friendSomething FRIEND would say to lure you in
>>571358080The hack would do that
>NoellepostersShit>DesspostersDogshit>Rudyposters and CarolpostersWonderful.Why?
>>571358126this unironically
>>571357856boomers saw this on dorkly and laughed their asses off
>>571358080shy guys are my favorite mario creature :D
>>571356147Toby dodges the question to seem deeper than he actually is.
>>571358194I love all of the Holidays. Die.
>>571358269do you know about the guy who commissions his shy guy oc fucking characters
>>571358194because noelle is a shit characterdess is a noncharactercarol and rudy are good characters
>>571358194>>Noelleposters>ShitAhem... WRONG
>>571358153
>>571358310>>571358183>>5713580713/3?
rudy knight's gonna be kino
does anyone have that drawing of friend riding susie while baiting her with the pen of hope?
>>571358326no but i’m also not surprised in the slightest
>>571356569bwaaah
>made Kris drink from school water fountain before entering the first Dark World in Chapter 1i-is m-my save...b-bricked?
>>571357460Escapism can make you feel a sense of higher purpose, which fits both religion in general and specifically Susie's arc for most of the chapter until the very end.
>>571358194Carolanon is holding them up like atlas
>>571358194noellefags are /v/ culture while carolfags are /utg/ culture simple as
>>571358226>Millennials Toby's age are now considered boomersGrim...telly, even.
>>571358194You actually have to engage with the story to appreciate Rudy and Carol.
>>571358404You're too full to consume moss now, reset
>>571358339
>>571358382
>>571358326do the characters in question have penises or not. your answer will determine what i post next...
>Nooo Rudy/Carol/Asriel you can't do this!!! You have to move on and accept you'll never bring Dess back!!! It's hurting other people because the writer specifically made the process to do that require hurting other people, so it's bad escapism!!!>Oh okay. I've seen the error of my ways now.This is what people want the game to be
>>571358194pretty much every noelle fan is a weird route chud that only started playing after chapter 2 released, there's your answer
>>571357236Darkness is fiction and light is reality, but it's not about escapism in the usual negative sense, it's about how stories make life worth living which is pretty much the opposite of that.
>>571358497thanks i love it
>>571358513they don’t
>Nooo Spamton/Tenna/King you can't do this!!! You have to move on and accept you'll never lose weight!!! It's hurting other people because the writer specifically made the process to do that require hurting other people, so it's bad escapism!!!>Oh okay. I've seen the error of my scale now.This is what people want the game to be.
>>571358348what did she mean by this
Talking about escapism is boring and a sign of pretentiousness since it’s the most boiled down version of “I am very smart”
>used tenna editor to click defeat the knight flag>put black shard in my inventory>dont have shadow crystaldo i have to go to castle town? how?
>>571357728>It's okay for it to not be pink.>Good. Keep bleaching your asshole.
i bet she hates this job
>>571358612dont misgender me i go by it/its
>>571358606not your best work but thanks anyways
If "true darkness" comes from the form of Titans and Titan spawn, how would a higher level of the Light world look like? Hyperrealism? Fleshy? Photoshop?
>>571358414There's a Cuptain talking to a Bibliox that feels like a joke on this, the Cuptain thinks it'll become a noble hero listening to it talk while it's just saying some alphabetical words in a sequence. I don't think Toby's super cynical either, like the other anon said, but I do think he's showing the two sides of 'escapism'. It really reminds me of Legend of Mana's major arcs showing the light/dark sides of love.
>>571358631that's what you get for cheating, kiddo
>>571358606kek i love you anon
>>571358606Holy shit you actually made me roll on my bed laughing
>>571358691Toby has flat out said that people require stories and other things to live.
>>571358194noelle is purely a fetish character dess is nothing so farcarol is well-written rudy is well-written
>>571358590i have immediately lost any and all interest, but thank you for your presumed transparency
>>571358646>You on break soon? Because I want to take you into the maintenance closet and press my face up against your navel and inhale
>>571358532actually I’m just a pacifist chud and I’m built like a salamander *skizzles around*
>>571358606As a fatass this makes me want to lose weight
>>571358404No, this actually unbricks your save because Kris needs the darkness lead poisoning from the Hometown water supply to develop magic powers
Asgore did nothing wrong. Its not his fault Tony wrote the story so he could only escape the underground with dead humans, and Fuks is the one who decided only human children fell
>>571358689yes
i dont get why you guys hate noelle when she had perfect character development in the cyberworld specially the scene with pomni during the car before it happeneddid you guys even play the game
>>571358646
Carol has had like 8 lines of dialogue
>>571358517This is particularly shit with Asriel who already had a good version of that storyline in Undertale
>>571358860Cocoa!!!
>>571358749Delusional. Carol has 5 lines
>>571358916Yeah but she's obviously going to be a top five character.
>>571358916>>571358940go back >>>/v/
>>571358631Toby nerfed the Knight so you could beat it, you can do it anon.
>>571358840/v/ fetishizes her so the foids here are obligated to hate herShe could be the most flawlessly written character in all of media and they'll force themselves to hate her simply because some porn addicts on another board objectify her
Carol has had like 8 nipplesThe sphinxTenna milk is mutating her...changing her...
>>571358310or maybe he just fucking hates interviewsBecause according to Toby Fox, Toby Fox does not like answering interview questions or being interviewed
>>571358937she’s the second best easter toon
>>571358517some people are fundamentally broken and can only engage with things from the position of the righteously indignant aggrieved. this view of the game isn't clung to because it's plausible or would improve the narrative, it's because in the end people want to go >wow why does Toby Fox literally morally agree with this doesn't he know that's bad / stupid?while masturbating
pippins have more dialogue than carol yet somehow they're considered less fleshed out
>>571358689light world = undertale UIbrighter yet brighter = Photoshop Floweybrightest light = angel/(you)
Still makes me lose my shit.
>>571359103fujo has how much dialogue
>>571359126if you really believed that you'd be on /v/ and not shitposting on /vg/
>>571358532I'm a hardcore Noelle fan who's never done the weird route, and has been in this fandom since Undertale was about five months old.I still remember playing the survey program instead of sleeping after my 12 hour shift at work on Halloween night. that wasn't a fun day the next day, but it blew my mind.Still not a fan of suselle though. I'd prefer Kriselle, or just no one ending up together.
Btw there's a cool Game Maker emulator for android! I've tried it and it works pretty well.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.perfectdreams.butterscotch
>>571359175everyone wants to hang out with us...
>>571359165>I love yaoi!She says this, like, 500 times so that's 500 lines of dialogue
>>571359065>the foids hereBruh...
>>571359109I crackled like a campfire when Berdly flew down. Berdly is a top tier just from the comedy alone.
>>571359065the people that hate her the most are the dudes who think she’s going to steal their tomboy fuckslave
>>571359175who are you talking to nonny?
I demand another kino Asgore bossfight (Deltarune edition)
You hate Noelle because she's trying to steal Susie for herself.I hate Noelle because she's an ugly nerd with a freakishly long head.
>>571358194"Rudyposters" are all Rudy Knight retards who want his character to be raped and dragged through the mud so he can be a BASED and EPIC TRICKY TONY TWIST villainThey have zero respect for the man he actually is and have turned him into an annoying fucking meme characterFuck them
We know a lot about Carol already because other characters talk about her so much.Though I'm not really sure why Toby dripfed her name to us.
>>571359251>nonnyi know what you are
>>571359226
>>571359320trvke
This thread isn't posting enough quality content.
>>571358080Friend is literally me...
>>571359308I love noelle. We are not the same.
>>571359335My brave beautiful bird boy...
Fatbros...
>>571358840>>>>pomni
>>571359331I never hide who I am /)
I like Noelle so much that I know anyone who calls her "the doe" is a porn addict
>>571359367Friend is literally inside me...
>>571359093That's definitely a thing on /v/ and /utg/, but outside of 4chan I've seen some people think that Deltarune is about Escapism Bad who also clearly think that's a good thing. There's a whole theory called "Life Advice" (lol) that's pretty much just that.
>>571359320I can believe that Rudy maybe doesn't have it for Asgore but there is no fucking way Asgore doesn't use the other sock of a pair for Rudy (the first is for Toriel).
>>571358194trannies love self inserting as both noelle and dess. suselle posters especially.carol is an evil homophobe and rudy is a moidsimple as
>>571359354I'm trying, sir!
>>571359308I think Noelle relates to Dib for having a big head
>>571359320why are they so gay arent they fucking married
>>571359223the pippinKINGS won?
I wonder if people can still tell i am me when i post.
>>571359459I'm... inside you? When did this happen?
>>571359509Hey we don't know if Carol is a homophone. She could be a classist.
>>571359549can i?
>>571359509>carol is an evil homophobeYou're thinking of Toriel
>Carol is a homophobe>Fandom mostly ships her with other women
>>571359601
>>571358860>deltarune rape posters are cocoagroidsnot a good look!
>>571359065Said like a true newfag
>>571359649that's fucked up dude he's dying
What are your theories on chapter 5?I wont even go to gym or on here till I beat it to avoid spoilers
I'm starting to think that /utg/ views all sex as rape of some kind. These anons don't think that consensual sex is real. It really bleeds in to the way they discuss the relationships in Deltarune, although it manifests differently based on their disposition. Regardless, they all agree that rape is supreme.
>i’m gonna call you noelle holiGAY!p-please don’t->noelllleeeee holiGAYYYY nyuk nyuk nyuk! *dances*
>>571359603Take a wild guess
>>571359308I don't care who's fucking who I just need Noelle to get stronger
>>571359673this is why bassie is supreme
>>571359705Sex is just rape that you agreed to
>>571359745Black Jevil?
>>571359705I hate rape, I don't know why I stay here. I just want those soundtrack leaks
>>571359793this
>>571359812No, Score lol
>>571359703I believe we'll have a different party member in place of Ralsei. I'm guessing it will be Noelle, partly because she also fills a similar niche to Ralsei gameplay wise.
>>571359308Not because of the newest g1rl_g1rl?
>>571359890no divegrass ended already
I like Carolanon's Carol and I also like the imaginary version of Carol that exists in my mind's eye. Hopefully Toby's Carol is even better.
I hate Noelle because her cowardice is the only thing holding her back from becoming a rapist.
I did not remember how long chapter 2 was.
>>571359890you don't want dossieranons knowing your typing style little guy! now stop looking for attention or you're gonna get the kind of attention you really don't want!
>>571359951?
>>571355465i am willing to believe that kris is A knight if you consider that the prophecy shows two knight-like titans, but he's absolutely not THE knight for reasons you said
>>571360008I want to kick Kris in the ribs
>>571360008I want to kiss Kris on the lips.
I don't hate Noelle, but she feels really mundane compared to the rest of the cast so I don't really care about her that much. Even though the weird route frames her as special, she still seems like some random normal girl who got dragged into a video game plot instead of a video game character. Maybe she should make more cheese puns, that would probably help.
>>571360109Kris is not for ryona. They have been through enough.>>571360139Agreed,
>>571360008I want to Kris Kris in the Kris
>>571360109You mean the vesselKris gets removed every time the vessel tries to lash out due to not being allowed to choose who they are
>>571360008I want to make Kris make Noelle commit murders
I want to kiss doe on the tummy
>>571360071Obviously Kris is the Silent Knight and the other one is the Holy Knight. Or is it the other way around?
>>571360191I want to lick this Kris's pussy until their composure breaks down and they have to drop the "too cool to care" act.
>>571360239This doe?
I want to lick a yummy ice cream cone
>>571360272based
>>571360272Kris has a they/them penis though
What does Kriselle have over this?
>>571360182i agree with this anon, more cheese puns would improve Noelle's character
You can now become one of the Holidays
>>571358014
>>571360356Getting stronger.
>>571360352>not being able to appreciate both
Wait...why does Dess have human shoes in her closet?
