Summer Heat Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>571428465
How many days since last major update?
Silver is still S tier according to the streamer and influencer crowd.Why aren't you picking this S tier hero and collecting free wins?
>>571528216they're going on a summer break so that counter is going to go on for a lot longer
hardstuck seeker btw
Last thread
>>571528626Just play bomb geist
>>571528626
>>571528643GAMEWe're such gamers
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>571528742Im playing suck geist for now and it's kinda enjoyable to say the least.excellent sustain and I can heal teamates.now I just need to feed her some shotas to really be unstoppable
Who is the big winning guy of Deadlock?
Streak broken, I didn't make it to 20.I abandoned Viscous and queue'd up Yamato and Graves.I got the Victor to ragequit at like 10 mins.
>>571527556>"high skill" movement pro>watch him>it's basic bitch Source engine quirks + a character that flies like Lash, Celeste or Pocket with majestic leap
its another>demolish my lane>get 4 kills>get guardian>look over at left lane>dynamo 0-8-1>venator 1-5-0>already pushed up to our walkerepisodethank you
>when he pulls out the slowing hex
>>571528643>Viscous, why do you have Greater Expansion?
>>571528626Easy to farm good stats if you're a good player stuck in shitlow. I placed initiate and these are my overall stats (currently mid-archon).
>>571529265please show their items
>>571529432Denies are really the easiest stat to pad in shitlow because nobody hits the orbs
>>571529432I wouldn't say i'm farming stats just that I dont believe I belong in seeker and that the elo should take more into account than just "did your TEAM win?"
>>571528264Don't worry they're gonna move on to Billy just about now
>>571528145Yeah but stillThere is no way lose streaks don't matter
>>571528626Seekerchad reporting inI think I should just queue up three m1ggers for a change
>>571529489Yeah denies and tower damage are super easy to pad in shitlow. Easy to keep your deaths low too, which in turn improves kd and kda. I think of it as a small upside to getting stuck in troglodyte elo for like 100 hours.>>571529641I don't like the matchmaker/ranking system underestimating individual performance myself, but I don't think the game should be like "actually you're incredible because you have a lot of denies" and arbitrarily let you rank up faster. I think the real problem here is your winrate is 53% and you're somehow stuck in seeker, that shouldn't be possible so the ranking system is failing there imo.
>enemy doesn't respect my Riposte by not buying counterspell for it>rape everyonenot a single other non-ult ability comes close to the powerlevel of Riposte
>>571529952>2 second stun at max rankYeah its broken and you could probably make melee apollo work off it alonePeople aren't ready yet for the VISION
>>571529436
People ask why I'm hardstuck ritualist and it's because of teams like these.
>>571529906Oh believe me I shouldnt be mega rewarded for something as trivial as denies but yeah its really busted right now.The problem is that if you lose a game to a lower average elo team, then it REALLY tanks your pp.I'll get to seeker 6 / alchemist 1 then lose one game I really shouldnt have and BOOMright back to seeker 4/5I dont even know what obscurus players count as because on statlocker, my games are LOADED with them half the time
>>571529776>first they shitcan my main silver>now they're going to shitcan my other main billy I'm just not allowed to like things huh
Having a good comeback on abrams is the most satisfying shit in this game I swear I love this blue nigga I love perma stunning cocky m1ggers
>>571530308it's like he didn't know if he wanted to be a backline carry or a support then shat that out
>>571530419To be fair a lot of Billy's kit is kinda insane, but he's balanced by>Bugs. Bashdown is pure jank and will not work a lot of the time>Rebuttal being a 800 itemHis 2 being changed into current health damage would be more healthier for the game but that's it.
>>571530604Ram is a literal bait skill and they can change the max rank to 1% current health and it wouldn't impact me at all
>>571530248im already making it work, gunmeleepollo is broken as fuck (if they dont counterspell the riposte stun)
After all why shouldn't I build greenbop?
>>571530248With duration you can get 2 heavies. Also gives you another excuse to buy magic carpet on him
>>571531026HOLY FUCKING BASEDOnly thing I would change is getting echo shard for it. God bless you SoldierYou are a true pioneer
>>571530368bros i wish graves would tank my pp...
Why have been people been tossing that this game has EOMM, and in order for it to activate you need to lose 3 straight games in a row with poor performance. Which will then give you a lobby where you're the best player and you can easily carry.
>>571531132witchmail is better than echo
>>571531323>lose 3 games>rating goes down>win because the lower rated lobbies are easierWOAH IM BEING MANIPULATED WOAH HELP ME YOSHI
>>571531414Do you find the ammo to be fine?
>>571531680thats what vampiric is foralso do lots of statues and sinners early game for max ammo buffs since you're pretty weak at that time as opposed to spirit apollo
>>571531414Fair enoughI would suggest trying out colossus since it gives you resists, health + extra melee damage.
>push waves>do camps>run boxes>don't feed>...>still lowest net wortham i genuinely just retarded or something
>>571531212fucking picasso ass face
>>571531983i'll switch lifestrike to colossus ultra late game in 40+ minute matches yeah
>>571532315You don't use your 3 at all?
counterspell is cool because even if you're getting stomped you can parry a few nukes and feel like you're playing a fun game
There's honestly barely any macro difference between a phantom and eternus player. The gap comes in micro skill (actually being able to fight, dominate lanes) and actually communicating with the team. Most Eternus players use the microphone all game, while phantom and below people only ever talk to complain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU59lnDo3BEMatchmaking is so bad right now that even Zerggy is turning into a toxic serial complainer. Although on his case its weird because everyone on his team is E6, which is theoretically as good as you can get.
>>571528990Mokrill
>>571532450nope, thats what makes witchmail so good, only the cooldown of riposte gets reduced when im fighting and only the cooldown of sigil gets reduced when im escaping
>>571532315I think 4.8 spirit is still worth for a build like this, your sigil scales really well and it would help your early game
Okay so what's the counterplay here, /dlg/?>Just buy indomitableYeah sure ok buddy
>>571533160Play mokrill
>>571533160Curse
>>571532937replace what with what?
CAN THE DEVS FIX THE FUCKING SERVER ROLLBACK ON BEBOP BOMBS GOD DAMNITIM TIRED OF SEEING THE SPELL GO ON CD AND HEARING THE FIRST BEEP AS IF IT HAS BEEN CAST ONLY TO NOT BE ON CD AND NOT BE CAST 0.1 SECONDS LATER
whats my best item to take down extremely tanky (6k+) hpdo i just need to stack multiple % drains or build res shred?
>>571528626>>571528745>>571529432>>571529883my winrate has been tanking recently because im pretty shit playing around the new urn mechanics
>Metro complaining about pocket ult stopping his life steal>Literally refuses to counterbuy >BRO WHAT AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO SELL I HAVE NO SLOTS OK IT'S NOT POSSIBLE>Still has cultist at 40 minutesTruly anyone can be eternus if you slam your head against a wall enough
>No you don't understand she needs one of the best midboss contests in the game, perma tether, a slowing grenade that can immobilize, and a 60 sec flight with a aoe silence.
>>571528643>spirit game bettertrvke
>>571528035Is that a... WOMAN IN A BIKINI? THIS ISN'T A GACHA THREAD? AAAIEEEEE
>>571531095>build greenbop>still die because team is brooling in a walkerless sidelane
>>571533859Are you really trying to argue one of the weakest supports is actually OP?
>>571533721i was improving at the game and looking forward to ranking up in phantom and hopefully making it to ascendant only for the new urn changes to take all the fun out of the game and now I've relegated myself to laughing at the peanut gallery in low prioif playing with the eastern european hackers is more fun than playing normal queue yoshi has done irreparable harm to the game
>>571533160should've bought plated + spellbreaker chud
>as soon as the match starts teammates sexually harass me for no reason>we absolutely mop the floor with the enemiesI'm...did I like that match?
Tankbuster is good because it gives insane wave clear
>>571534102Yes.
counter buying is cheating!
if i have to counter buy against one specific character your game is poorly designed
>>571533828I don't get it because divine barrier is an unironically good M1gger buy if pocket is giving you problems it just removes any dependence you could have on teammates to do it in hectic fights
>>571533683Do they have dispel?>noDECAY DECAY FUCKING DECAY BUY IT FUCKING BUY IIITTTT (ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE SPIRIT, THE MAX HP% SCALING IS STILL GOOD AFTER NERFS THE ITEM GOT NERFED FOR A REASON. Also buy duration if you spam decay you can reach 10k dmg with it)>yeslol get fucked buy toxic & siphon & shreds i guess
>mokrill gets healbane >its literally impossible to beat him in a 1v1 now
>>571534389He refused to buy it himself and was demanding his teammates buy it for him lol
>>571533498Target cast spells are dishonestIf you want honest bomb spam, play holiday
>>571533280Not sure, my first thought was qsr on 3 cause you are holding it anyways but you could also get improve spirit for almost+40 spirit from item+investmentThere is a ton of good items, like coldfront/cooldown/bullet resist shredder could also work imoId cut one of the weapon damage items, you want a good mix of weapon dmg/firerate/shred and you are a little heavy on the dmg part
>>571533828anyone who wastes 2400 upgrading monster rounds is a retarded faggot. no, wasting an active slot and 2400 you could spend on actual items is not worth a temporary 10% weapon damage buff you get to activate once every 270 fucking seconds. you could literally just buy monster rounds high velocity and any 1600. and you would have a stronger farm than cultist sacrifice. and chances are you'd be better in pvp too. such a worthless meme item. even hollow point is better and that items been dead a while.>yeah sorry bro your item deactivates if you actually take damage
>>571534398I tested it on geist once buying decay as my first item. It will outdamage her nuke
>>571534290If you have an aoe that procs tankbuster you already have insane wave clear
>>571533859>enemy buys any of the following>counterspell, indomitable, unstoppable, debuff reducer, weighted shots, frenzy>hero begins to do fucking nothing in fightsthere's a reason I can queue her up 100 games in a row and never get put on anything else because no ones banning or picking her. she's technical, easily countered and dependent on team mates. she's not a great solo queue character and I have to sweat my dick off on comms to have as much success as I do.btw like I said counterspell completely shuts down her mid contest. you can immediately parry again after blocking her stun and parry anyone else that tried to contest under it. it's that easy.
>>571534840Not saying I disagree but wasting an active slot doesnt really matter when nobody is maxing them out(they should be)
Vyper re-model when?
>>571534619>item is literally just dispel magic but betterNAH I'M NOT GONNA BUILD IT I JUST WON'T LOLreminder that divine barrier COMPLETELY cucks stuff like wraith ult too. you want unstoppable. but divine barrier in your backpack means you can use it reactively and have no risk of having your unstoppable baited out.
If metro knew how to build he would be the GOAT of deadlock
Update prediction, Hopetards and Doomkeks are settling this once and for allhttps://strawpoll.com/e2naXkk20yB
>>571536184How did you get this number?
>>571535663imo every single carry in the game should be building warp stone unstoppable slowing hex and some form of sustain. there is never a situation where you would not want these 4 actives. dota carries would cream themselves if they had the flexibility to have all that on top of their damage.
>>571534102>Ivy>WeakYou just blow in from stupid town?
>Try to play trap venator>Not feeding but not doing well>Teammates start to cry saying I'm trollingSo are you not allowed to have fun in this game anymore? Did the competitards take over and if you're not running whatever cocksucker streamer build you're trolling?
>>571528643fart cum shit
>>571534712Brs sounds interesting, i'll try that
>>571536589Post build
>>571536589Its just not very good, i tried it too and the traps dont last long enough for it to be an actual playstyle
>>571536272I have a similar philosophy but it has homogeneized my builds a bit because with 4 actives you also want Transcendent and now I have half a build before even considering hero
>>571528643
>>571537392ideally your supports just buy a bunch of slowing hexes and there's less need. but yeah transcendant cd is vital.
>>571536589The game's meta is solved too quickly right now. Every new balance patch is figured out within a few days and straying from that harms you and your entire team.Look at that viscous fag or anyone still trying to play mina
I buy Divine Barrier for the ability range
>>571538865When does the game stop being dominated by AoE sloppers? The game is morphing more and more into a hero shooter where everyone piles onto the payload and spams all their abilities. The original urn worked best because you could deny most of the souls without committing to teamwide brool. In fact the game needs more objectives to split people up. Bring back 4 lanes.
The shotas FEAR the vacuum geist
>>571539521Address movement and then you can address everything needing big aoes to hit anyone
>>571539642Embiggen the map and add more stuff to do and you can keep your movement.
>>571529415Why did nobody reply again today?
>bigger map That would make driffter unstoppable
>>571537159
Dude it's so fucking not fun to play against good Vindicta.Fucking counter-strike pro player level tracking or aimbots
>>571536589Just wait until they add Draft mode, then you won't even be able to play as who you want to without instant massive bitching from your team just like in Dota. Metaslaves will ruin everything.
>the 3/16 drifter ragequits making it a true 5v6thank you
>>571536271The Baxtuh Society...
>>571540148>cold front/arctic>torment pulsewhatmight as well add spirit snatch in there
>>571540148>My teammates are whining and saying that im trolling>Build is (just for trolling)
>>571540148Why not just go gun early and then move into spirit after you hit the spikeBuilding spirit from the start doesn't do anything until later
>>571540087There should be a tech that allows the drifter to drift indefinitely with his slidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwUlY9WW1I
>>571540148No Merc Mag?
>>571540148"How to get your team to report you for griefing"
>>571540747what gun is there to buy that's not just delaying your goal (trap build)besides maybe one 800 cq/mr/resto for early game, and then MAYBE recharging rushif you go for an actual gun build for the first half of the game then there's just no point
>>571541209Tempo. You can't make your trapper build happen if you shit the bed in the early-mid game.
>>571541363of course you can, venator can still farm without gun spike (can go cultist sac it gives range for traps then rr for 4.8k anyway)remember this is still a meme build. it doesn't matter if it doesn't work in eternus lobbies.
>>571529265be thankful your left lane still has its walker
>>571541845nobody cares about meme builds that only work in seeker
i love victor
Why do you need a wooden arm to be in the bastard society?
>>571528567I get like 5 days off a year these motherfuckers get like 2 months.
>>571542674nobody cares about your post oraclebro
>enemy gets tanks>you don't>loselol
>>571542824>a hit dog will holler
>>571542943Careful, mobautists get pissy when you say things like tank or DPS.
>>571542954i accept your concession
ANY one of you mother fuckers tell me again that "oh well YOUR the problem" i'm going to strangle you holy fuck.Venator and Pocket laned together btw, and Lash was "playing a character he's never played before".Not telling people they have ranks and hiding it away is the dumbest shit ever cause you have people who ACTIVELY want to get better and improve, playing with people who think its casual mode.
whoever started this "focus lens on silver" shit needs to kill themselves. 4 silvers in a row on ym team running this build inting and having the least damage in the game
>>571542943as shitty as matchmaking is in this game, it does have parameters for guaranteeing each team gets a "frontliner". whether X hero belongs in the frontliner pool is another story though
>>571543152The hero is literally worthless regardless of what you do or buy, at least buying active items might make her have some positive impact.
>least damageIsnt silver supposed to be a tank?
>>571543097>Feeding Lash and Pocket>35-36k souls>"Not the problem" Vindicta>37k soulsLMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
is 35k healing good for a healbot support miku?
>>571543698my build was complete at that point aside from fluff shit.If you can't complete a build that melts people in 30k souls your throwing because its going to take WAY too long for you to get powerful enough to do anything to the enemy.
>>571543616No?
>>571543097>hiding obj>37k souls in a likely 40+ min gameNOT A GOOD LOOK HARDSTUCKSEEKERBROS...
>>571541209Just grab Opening Rounds and Alchemical FireIt gives you spirit, aoeslop, and a gun that's not completely useless.
>>571543879Well your finished build clearly didn't melt people or else you would have a much higher soul count from kill rewards!
>>571543952yeah that's a much better option utilitywise. though mystic shot probably better over opening rounds since you're going boundless anyway so it'll scale very high
>>571543616she tanks the whole enemy team with her cookie!
>>571531026I do wonder why so many apollo players refuse to go more gun hybrid when everything he has buffs his gun damage in one way or the other.He reduces melee resist by like 50% that's an insane damage boost even early game before the enemy gets a lot of resists.
stickin a wina inside mina's vagina
>>571544340Yeah, good call.Just something so that you don't struggle to kill troopers with your peashooter past 15 minutes
is opening rounds pocket viable or am i better off sticking with swift striker or mystic shot
>>571544725You only really want opening rounds if your hero benefits from the bullet velocity
>>571543097dont worry anon, sometimes you just get teams that are actually dogshit and theres nothing you can do about it.Posting in the thread won't help because all the initiates will just make fun of you to cope with their own problems.
>>571528035cute feet...
Who is the best gun support?
>>571545298Silver or Holliday
Revert the door nerf
>>571545579redpill me on "the door nerf"
>>571543097i still don't understand how some players can get to a certain rank and vastly underperformlike even in my worst games i can still contribute something or pull it together in the back half
feels gud
Is it just me or does gun giest feel like ass? It feels way better to go spirit and green items.
can any ivy mains give me tips on healing nova and how it works? using it on mcg
>>571543152She'll have the lowest damage regardless of what she gets. It's not the gear, it's the chassis.
>spamming geist on a win streak>queue suddenly takes 6 minutes>get an apollo game with the most brain damaged teammates known to man and a forced loss>>571546540She feels pretty good this patch. Haven't lost a single game with her recently. Don't see why you'd do spirit geist but I just saw one do well
>>571546717it works through walls. you just pop it when you're near someone that's about to die or preferably to sustain your team through pushes. ivy gets extra value on single target with tether because it replicates healing by 52%
>>571544725Not really? Opening rounds is great because of the bullet velocity + weapon damage burst off of the start of an engagement. But pocket typically either dives people that are low or early game (where opening rounds is the strongest) your burst should be strong enough to bring most people to below half.There are probably scenarios where opening rounds IS better but I feel like it's too niche especially when mystic shot gives the same spirit power and a strong burst and swift striker is just better sustained dps, which is what you want when you're just gunning someone that's really low and needs just a few shots to die before they get around the corner by their walker.
>me must unga into enemy even when me fed them four kills and never say something>REEEEE FUCK YOU WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING ME!!!!!
>>571546779I played three matches today, won by a landslide with a rem on my team the first match and then I got matched with two seperate mouth breathing apollo players. I think people are just too used to his old "win every fight before 15 minutes" playstyle and can't get into playing slightly more defensively in lane.
>>571544725desu I honestly think swift striker weighted shots might be the play. big chunk of damage, easily applied slow, debuff resistance on a character that is HIGHLY VULNERABLE TO THEM.
>>571547783the weighted shots downsides look so daunting though, i feel like if anything it'd be swift striker point blank
>>571547783I've seen pockets have great success with weighted shots but they go actually all in on gun when they get that item, so I'd say it depends on how hard you want to lean in on gun damage as opposed to having good DPS to finish someone off taht got spirit burn + affliction
>>571547994yeah but imagine playing pocket with a casual debuff reducer + that. you'd have like 42% debuff resistance and just never die probably. the stuff that kills you on pocket is getting hexed at a bad moment and not getting to cloak out because of it. I suppose if you were really scared about the down sides you'd just take enduring speed so you don't feel like a slug. I think there's potential there. but yeah point blank is a safe option.
i am *slowly* climbing out of archon hell!!!
>>571548478>the stuff that kills you on pocket is getting hexed at a bad moment and not getting to cloak out because of it.i'm sadly at the stage where the stuff that gets me killed on pocket is playing like a dumbass and just exploding instantly
Should I watch eido or metro to get better?
Always remember it doesn't matter how hard you stomp them, there's nothing you can do to beat a comp diff.
>>571549546Watch metro he shows you basically what not to die>Never spends unsecured souls>Buys cultist every game>Never counter buys
>>571549286this is a fast paced game and consistent execution is only going to come through drilling this game into your mind and getting the muscle memory down. but you'll get there if you put the hours in. I had people in pubs making fun of me for being hard stuck oracle, phantom, ascendant, 'barely eternus', 'low eternus', 'mid eternus', and now i'm eternus 5 on leaderboard and people stopped flaming.
>>571549683not to do* fug
Billy is the kind of character that has a 12 inch cock but powerbottoms anyway.
>>571549683>buys cultist eversuch a trap item. monster rounds is a very efficient buy but going any further is fucking retarded I'm convinced. if you want a money printer you should unironically just pick up trophy collector for half the money and brool early and transition into farm when your stacks are rolling you passive income. that item prints me like 5-6k every game. cultist is such a long cooldown just to take 1 ancient. 270 fucking seconds.
>>571545298bebop
*sucks you dry*Oops! I thought you were my daily shota snack.
>>571549809>currently at 554 hoursnervous gulpthe thing is i play other spirit characters so i thought i would have some semblance of what i'm doing but now that i'm picking up pocket and getting my shit stomped regularly i feel like i'm just carried by said other characterspocket was also who i first picked up back in like 2024 but i took a long break until the tail end of six heroes where i only played a bit of pocket before trying newer heroes. in either case i would have hoped to have kept SOME ability to play the character
>>571528035The things I would do to her feet
>>571550310I dont think shes a vampire anoonymouse
>Win lane by a LOT (like 10/1)>still the game is literally nexus to nexus because doorman and sinclair CAN'T stop trying to hit "clips" by forcing them into our spawnholy FUCK dude, they had a 30k lead on us because of those 2 retards and somehow McGinnis and me pulled it back.Like it should NEVER have been that close, EVER
What will be done about Rem? In good hands he can enable the worst team ever. He isn't so bad once you get out of early lane, but I hate this little shit for cucking me from my stacks.
>>571550568it's just about shaking off the rust.
>>571551541>nexus to nexus?
>>571551632You should be allowed to kill his minions and he has to spend souls to get new ones.
>>571551541>winning against a team late>everyone in the game is like 40-50k networth>peep at networths while I'm sitting sieging base guardians>doorman 27k networthbro must have spent literally 50% of the game outside of any sort of souls whatsoever just trying to meme on people and he undoubtedly lose his team the game single handedly. amazing stuff.
instead of trying to focus on changing mechanics that completely destroy the core game itself.Yoshi should focus on making an established meta first. Dota 2 has "2 top, 1 mid, 2 off", League has "1 top, 1 jungle, 1 mid, 2 bot"Smite has "1 Top, 2 jungle, 1 mid, 1 bot"Meanwhile Deadlock has no fucking idea WHAT it wants and just throws 2 DPS in the same lane and 2 supports in the same lane.Then it's up to the PLAYERS to swap, like what the fuck dude.He's trying to "make a moba UNLIKE other mobas" but is failing at it, because unlike other mobas it becomes unbalanced and unfun as hell because you wanted to add a shitty gimmick that doesnt work.Then you try and try and try and tweak it instead of just admitting IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK
>>571551632Suck it up, toots. Sinners belong to RemGODS.
i've started rushing carpet on Warden and maxing out 3 and just going around ganking from the sky all game and it's very fun
>>571544725Opening is BiS for some chars and subpar for others
>haze ult>Enter a flurry, firing your weapon at nearby enemies with perfect accuracy and added Bullet Damage.>sinclairs assistant>Summon an Assistant at the targeted location. The Assistant attacks whenever you fire your weapon, dealing Damage. Why is she not an auto aim machine gun if he uses Haze ult? It would fix the one ult that he can't use well.
>>571552136so... your just playing vindicta?
>>571552295yeah but now i don't have to aim and my ult does all the damage for me
>>571551946I think it would be pretty interesting if jungle was lucrative enough to be its own thing and they played a roaming role
How do you kill an infernus if he can just heal infinity as quick as your entire team can damage?Equal souls on everyone and he jkust doesn't dietankiest motherfucking dpsgod i hate blacks
>>571551632kino image
We need to study deadlock players' addiction to this shit item.
>>571552156ok what does BiS mean because i keep reading it as "built-in sustain" and i know that can't be right
>>571552476thats the fun part! you don't. If your team doesnt have CC and focuses him down your just dead! Even if you DO kill him his burn for some reason does 800 damage and wont stop ticking!
>>571552476If he can afford infuser / leech you can afford anti heal.
>detlatroon into palworld 1.0 into deadlock august bananza, into DD2, into not playing GTA6 console cucks can beta test I already know the spoilers from the autistic south american leaker.I hope Yoshi(Icefrog) really goes full retard in august.
>>571551946shut up faggy, it absolutely works and deadlock is already the best moba on the market
Hello everyone hi guyshello
Kill shiv
Is there a way to watch a game replay?I was playing Shiv and had like 4k HP and somehow Graves took me from atleast 3.5k to dead in literally a second and she wasnt even focusing me so I dont even know WHAT killed me
>>571552598best in slot
>>571551946>>571552458hey retards.Dota changes organically. When I played 2 mid was a meta, 1 off vs 1 off, or 1 off vs 2 off , jungle, pseduo jungle(creep pulling figured out entirely, eventually patched like a decade ago) tons of other shit.League is literally forced.
>>571552856Yes, find the match ID in your top right menu and just View Details, replay button is in the bottom right corner
how are any of you still playing this?? The last major update was 5 months ago???? Are we even close to the next??? Someone ask yoshi for the love of god??????
>>571552856Probably got raped by a pack of skulls and two nig- I mean, zombies.
>>571551632REMnation runs this game and allows you other fags to play in our servers
>>571552597people not realizing it's been heavily nerfed from great to okay at best and still clinging to when it did like twice the damage twice as fast.
>CStards have had the same game for a decade and don't complain>MOBAtards complain if there isn't a complete overhaul update in 2 weeksWhy?
>>571553251They're very different games.
>>571553251CStards just want their point and click slop for retards and any deviation from that makes them shit and piss and cry
>>571553251because mobas are shit
>start buying return fire on bebop>its 10% of my dmg in every gameI see the vision yoshi
>>571545630Doorman isn't allowed to instantly close his doors after opening them, it makes people upset because he can't just get free kills via walker kidnapping.
>>571552597This item is a complete fucking scam and im convinced players are just too retarded to realize it. 1.4s cd 9m range for 40-50 dmg lmfao you are literally better off just shooting your gun at the enemy. Even with expansion, trans cd, and ee its hardly worth it at that stage in the game
>>571552587I drew it because this general is running out of OC
>>571553251You can play CS for a decade and it won't get stale because the base gameplay is just that perfect.>>571553392>Nooooo it needs le ooooverhauls, even if the gameplay is just fine please i need muh oooooooverhauls!!!!!!
>>571553000thanks bro!>>571553167yeah it was 4 zombies in total, 2 I didnt see and 2 I jumped over and as I jumped they exploded and instakilled me
>>571552597I like it because apollo is animation locked while charging his 3 and 4comes out to do 200-300 damage which helps with breakpoints
>>571551946unironically it's trying too hard to be different, but really is just ending up as a very poor herowatch shooter clone>all lanes are 2v2v2>minimal room for strategic or unusual play>too much focus on gun>map is way too small>schmoovement is antagonistic design>unengaging mechanics (like smacking crates/statues)>lack of proper balancing and hero role structure>3rd person perspective screws with traditional MOBA mechanics like vision, warding, and Fog of Warthere are just so many nonsensical or unnecessary design choices that constantly push against each other to create a mess of a game>>571552774BLOWING GLOOM
>>571553652just remember at the point people build it it's doing like 27 damage btw
>>571552774she would've been hot if she was literally just a black catgirl and instead we get bald negress DEI like why the fuck
>>571552597It used to be really good and some people haven't realized it's now only for applying EE stacks and Mystic Slow on full spirit tanks.
>>571554062>>571551946it also doesnt help that people can literally just use scripts and dont get banned.Like "auto parry"or"auto ping when enemy is seen"or"auto deny"Like inhuman shit that wouldnt even be possible, and nobody stops it.So if suddenly a Mina/Haze is suspiciously good at denying or parrying at your rank it's cause theres a 50% chance they're scripting.
>>571531026>>571531414so why aren't people building more hybrid on him? they've been buffing his gun for the last few patches, haven't they?
>>571534102Ivy player or retarded; Call it
>>571553251because Deadlock is incomplete.
>>571536589this is my argument for unranked standard. people will get pissed off if you try a new hero or an off meta build, and street brawl is just a slot machine
>>571533859Don't forget, 4 stone forms per minute on base 4 stamina.
Your next hero
>>571528643>seeker thing, silver
Am I the only one who doesn't think the game is that unbalanced right now, most complains are a player and matchmaking issue, the game just needs more contentEternus 4 btw
>>571555537Eternus 4 is the same thing as Initiatetry again
>>571528643waow
>>571553819>>571548815Please stop posting sexy kiggers on /dlg/
>>571555537I liked the burger boxing urn more.also the meta is just kind of... unfun at the moment.>first 8 minutes mean nothing because jungle hasn't spawned and full shared souls in lane>first 20 minutes mean nothing because respawn timers are too short for any kills to matter>after 20 minutes you lose one team fight and it spirals into mid boss into another lost team fight into losing your shrines and waiting for the next mid boss
>hour and 20 minute game>bell curve teammate screaming without a minutes break for most of it>lose because they had seven and yoshit doesn't let seven's winrate drop below 55%I am hollow
Leak says major update this week
does Vyper DO anything but slide around, be annoying, and feed?
>>571556291nope. dota is having a major happenings though.>Axe is missing and cannot participate
dota just got a pre event patchits over dota won...
Fucking finally Dota getting an update. Guess I'll go play that while I wait for the DL update.I'm a Lycan/Visage spammer.
>>571555898Unironically why does Seven have "invincibility to CC" and "Bullet and Spirit Resist" in his ulti?Literally EVERY time he pops ulti it's just a won teamfight for their team cause now you gotta split up and wait OR just fucking die.its actual insanity how you cant just CC or pop the fucker out of the sky.Atleast with Bebop you have to AIM the ulti, but Seven you push 1 (ONE) button and win.
>>571555626>eternus 6 is basically initiate bro you're not DLNS>erm tournaments in a dead alpha game lmaooo fags like you will never be satisfied. blow me.
>>571556872He doesn't have CC invulnerability or spirit resist in his ult, just bullet resist at t1.If he bought unstoppable then yes he's immune to CC until that's over.
>>571557231oh he doesnt? I just assumed the games where I try to counter him with knockdown and it doesnt work that they also just have that in his ulti which wouldnt surprise me
>>571556872Lads, never forget Yoshi unironically listens to people like this when implementing balance changes to this game
Fermenting a keg of shota cum for our alcoholic doggy Silver!
buff vindictashes REALLY fucking good as someone to pick off people in teamfights, but no matter HOW you build her she loses a 1v1 with every DPS unless she's aheadShe doesnt shoot fast enough or has any long lasting damage to win teamfights.Make her 1 a stun, or get rid of her crows for a high damage ability that ALSO takes bullet resist away cause aside from bullet resist and SUPER early game picks, crows are useless
>>571557609This
>>571555875I like this. It's very decisive. You have 25 minutes to establish a lead. Even if you do have one you're one mistake away from becoming even, or even losing. Makes games very dynamic.
>>571556872>>571557306this is the reason seven will never have a negative win rate. niggas don't even read tooltips.
>>571557609even if your ahead she still loses fights.Every DPS has a stacking, high damage ability like Infernus's burns, Haze has a fucking stun, Wraith has a fucking stun, even INFERNUS stuns with his UltiMeanwhile the character who'd benefit the MOST from having a stun has a *checks notes* ROOT?!?!?!
i want to play but then i think about how i have to buy actives and counterbuy and do this and that and blabla and i dont want to play anymoredoes this happens to anyone else
Why did people stop playing Mina? feels like I barely see her anymore compared to a month ago.
>>571557924yes but only when i win 8 games in a row, lose 2 and drop like 2-3 ranks for no reason.
>>571558035silver is the all-purpose larper/erper/derangement target these days, the only people who still play mina are the actual mina players
>>571558035Mina was the tourism hero for people who wanted boosted rating, they've all moved to holliday post-buff.
When are they fixing all the movement bugs?
>>571557924It did, until it stopped once everything else became second nature.Now I buy actives all the time.I still have a problem forgetting to use actives every now and then.The trick is to play more support heroes because you'll use your support abilities and wish you had more buttons to press.When I play support Rem (THE ONLY GOOD REM) I fill out my actives to the tits.I'm pretty sure 4 actives is the limit but I could be wrong, Hell, I HOPE i'm wrong.MORE BUTTONS GIMME MORE BUTTONS!!
>>571558895Never, enjoy having to watch nasally trannies on youtube to understand how to do all the esoteric bullshit in this game.
>Mina player bitching saying geist is easy to play and strongPot... meet kettle....
>>571558895Movementmonkeys will violently chimp out at the mere suggestion of making the game not annoying, spastic, and unintuitive to control, so probably never.
>>571559062i play a lot of remim just tired...
>>571558895what bugs?
>>571559192Fuck them, they are a minority and their bug abusing drives normal players away.
>>571559376maybe you can play a different game instead of playing a movement game and spergingif tf2 came out in 2026 you zoomer retards would cry about sticky jumping and say it's a bug
>>571559141>life drain build + mystic slow>literally sucks out every last drop of moisture from her pussy lips
Its over..
>>571543097>hardstuck seeker>hiding obj damageoh you're a weird little faggot huh? go play hello kitty or some shit you retard
>>571559439You jest but sticky jumping and rocket jumping are a lot easier and more "natural" to learn than the movement tech in this game.
you dont even need good movement to reach the highest rank
>>571557609>nerf the broken m1 heroes>NO>buff every m1 hero until they bucket crab each other for the FotM spotlight>YES YES WOOOOO
>>571559524>haze, graves, seven, mo, victor, viscousi dont think i've ever played a more cancerous compevery team fight there was just fucking aoe damage all over with no way to counter iti fucking hate this patch man
Silvetards?YOUR RESPONSE???
>>571559796Metro.....
>>571559901Built for staying home and getting her cookie pounded.
>>571559652had the most OBJ damage on my team btw
>>571559901She's actually still S tier OK!!??!?! YOUR JUST FUCKING SHIT AT THE GAME IF YOU DONT SEE THIS SHE CAN BEAT M1GGER HEROES 1V1 WHEN THEY SPLIT PUSH WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THEREFORE SHES FUCKING OVERPOWERED
>>571559842if every character has one thing another character doesnt. Picking the character that is weaker is objectively throwing
Spirit Silver, DotardsThink about it...
>>571559901I really don't get why they nerfed her so hard, or at all for that matter. She wasn't even that good in the previous patch.
>>571559901>mina>F-tierwhat?
>>571560316Alright, I'll think about itThinking about it nowThought about itNext think?
Just sent Yoshi another dm on discord begging to order a C&D on all third party data trackers
>>571559901You heard him, Pocket needs huge buffs.
>>571560316I do but Im not confident enough to trial and error builds on my time and there are no public builds for her.Maybe when games go from hour long slogs to 25 minutes games i'll do so
>>571560506Why? Don't like it when some semblance of actual statistics counters your anecdotal claims?
>>571560452Gun Mo
whenever i lane against lash and he does the thing where he sits in the window waiting to slam you at the wave i use this movement to parkour up and bully him and sometimes the bullying gets so bad that his lane partner starts climbing up the rope with him to help kek
>>571560572viable
>>571560452Tank Rem
>>571560617What are you doing when they start parrying you?
>>571560802How are they parrying you when you can curve away and still mantle up?
>>571560617the lash would have be retarded and blind to allow this
>>571560956Only a blind and retarded Lash plays lane that way in the first place, yes.
>>571560802this >>571560856
>>571557841Here's an idea: let's not give m1ggers any fucking stuns at allYou want hard cc? Go beg the support. Why are these faggots allowed to do everything AND scale?
