>>571656781
need pixie wife

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8INzXR0J_8

>>571646924
You can make everyone strong in VV.
Die for Me is trickier to use however, since you need a Pandemonic Feast setup to make the most of it.

That mitama dlc is a massive mistake.
I kept it on thinking it would be fine as long as I didn't use the level up items but the amount of those things is so high that it's hard to find local demons and the exp they give is pretty high.
By the time I unlocked fusion I was already level 12.
I turned them all off but I'm almost tempted to restart the game, though I'm sure it will balance itself out after a while with all overworld enemies running away from me.

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Ghoulish

>>571660174
You only use it if you want to clear the lvl 999 virtual battles

Holy fuck why did nobody tell me NINE was a gnosticism game true neutral has fucking sophia reveal herself to the mc

>>571668609
Literally no one played NINE since it was stranded on xbox.
And for a fucking long time, no one cared about xbox emulation.

>>571668609
SMTVV also has a bunch of references to NINE as it's the second most gnostic smt game itself.

>>571668609
this is like the only info people usually have on the game anon, since neutral-neutral is one of the two translated routes

>>571669779
How many routes are there? 9?

>>571670876
i think so? your alignment varies between light-neutral-dark and law-neutral-chaos - i assume they all have their own peculiarities
i beat the game last week and i'm not even sure of what ending i had, besides "a law one"

>>571670876
Nah man, it's called Shin Megami Tensei EIGHT for a reason

>>571660995
he found his dentures

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>made a game exclusively for a console that wasn't big in japan at all
>complained that it undersold
literally what were they thinking

>>571625686
VV specifically, there's V stuff yeah

>>571670876
Theres 3 major routes law, neutral and chaos, while the dark-neutral-light spectrum has minor dialogue/event changes according to the wiki with the most notable being sophia staying as a disugised human on light and dark neutral

I'm starting to appreciate SMT 2 a lot more. I played it during our SMT /plays/ and I was meh on it but it's starting to really get to me now. I think out of all SMT games, it's most deserving for a remake or remaster. (I honestly think SMT1 aged better). The plot and environments were pretty cool, I'm still a bit wtf is your problem Satan/Zayin. I just feel like the whole plot was underutilized and you just bump into everything until the game's over. SMT3 was sorta similar too where things happen around you but it felt more designed around it while all of your friends start to get their "reason".

>>571668609
All of Megaten is gnostic, pretty much.

>people complaining about world of sloth when you can just fast forward and loopy de loop
>mfw World of Envy
>mfw SCHOOL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLAY IF YOU FUCKERSSSSSS SUFFER WITH ME

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>>571680596
>set the game on easy so you only spend half of sloth's back and forth
>play it with a guide
mfw

>>571680871
wait i swear easy locked you out of something or I might be thinking of something else.
Even with a guide Envy is fucking annoying.

>>571681857
i haven't heard such thing, i still managed to get hinokagutsuchi and that's the only thing that matters

about to play #Fe what kind of cringe and/or kino should i expect from the gameplay and story

>>571684993
from my understanding you should buy tons of attack mirror because even in easy, the bosses still can oneshot you because funny

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They're obviously doing this to build brand awareness for the third game they've all but confirmed that they're making, but it's kind of incredible just how far the OG Atlus gods fell off practically as soon as they left the company. Tadashi was barely involved in this project past the first game even

Alright here's my last
Just less than 1 day to go before villion code is cominggggg

Is there any demon you wouldnt mind if Doi redesigned?

>>571698401
i wouldnt mind seeing Alice get the doi treatment to see what his take would be like

>>571698639
Popular demon will mostly stay the same based on his jack frost "redesign"

>>571698639
While i do enjoy seeing alternative version of things i think doing the more popular designs is a bad idea specially with a "this is what we are going forward with" mentality.

I was thinking more on the lines of stuff you dont really hate or even dislike but also wouldnt mind "seeing it go".

>>571698639
Me too because it would send Avery into a fit like the Raidou remake announcement.

seraph's feminine penis

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>>571689186
If it’s on Switch 1 or Pc, I might get it. It’s made by compile heart too so maybe it’ll be decent? If it’s trash I dunno what to feel

>>571708594
it is on switch but it has no english option so idk if the usual rom place will immediately have it or not

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>>571708692
>no English
Long as it’s got english subtitles I’m fine

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>indonesian representation
based?

>Just got to the Satan Fight in SMTVV
>Decide on a strategy after some failures
>Get a somewhat decent run going for once
>Megidolaon, Yabusame Shot, Megidolaon, Yabusame Shot
Is this fight just if the RNG decides to fuck you over there's nothing you can do?

>>571709386
Considering you need Enduring soul or potentially lose turn one, yeah it's RNG the fight.

>>571709386
Satan becomes much easier once you start abusing his plunder gimmick, yabusame is still bullshit

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>>571680596
Envy IS confusing I'll admit, but, I got through it just fine without a guide. Took me like, about an hour-ish, give or take.
Sloth fucking sucks, because even with popping Estoma and running back and forth in a hallway with fast forward, it still takes TOO LONG.
It's not just long, it's boring too. Seriously, look me in the eye, and tell me, seriously tell me that you think that only getting to progress through the dungeon when the game decides is a good gimmick.

>>571716203
it's whatever fast forward and vibe. At least you KNOW you're making progress. Envy IS SUCH A PAIN IN THE ASS and the last dungeon is ASSer

>>571716259
genuinely, just look up maps.

I like it when the game inanely makes you unable to check the comp to see the automap

>>571717784
No comp zones

>>571717784
guess you don't have mapper/map orbs?

>>571720347
I was just by myself since the heroine got kidnapped so no one with a mapper (also idk what map orb is)

>>571722127
View orbs you can buy in the first itemshop town in if...

>>571722449
I played in JP so that kind of thing was missable for my shitty ass nipponese skill

Among SMT games, I feel Nocturne is the game that utilized moon cycle the most
>it affects the content of the chest
>it affects the type of fusion you can do
>there's a specific boss that you can only properly beat during full moon
>if you equip your demons with dark might or bright might, you can auto crit during that particular moon cycle and it's crucial for bosses that have no weakness so you can at least get 1-2 more turns depending how many demons (or yourself) that equip it
Most other games only have
>you can't communicate with the demons when it's full moon
>for DDS the items you sell get you the best price during full moon
>at least in If... some bosses do hit the weakest during new moon i think? I only got to know this from a playthrough video though
Meanwhile they wiped that out from IV and when it did come back in V, it's still the same bare minimum feature.
How would you make moon cycle relevant again?

>>571728503
Forgot to add in SMT 1 there are some temples that each house 3 treasure chests that only give you the best goodies under that particular moon cycle (which is specified and might as well just look up at the guide for the maximum value) and in 2 and if... you got golden and silver chests that can only be opened during full moon to get jewelries but that's it i think?
Does SJ even have that?

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>>571728503
The moon cycle was also part of the plot itself.

I only remember moon cycle being relevant in V during that Amanozako's sidequest where the battle against her evil side only happened after you waited until full moon then talked to her.

>>571730672
It was stupid that the moon cycle didn't really mean shit because V is supposed to be a world that experiences conception. On one hand Kagutsuchi is dead so that explains why there is no angry head in the sky but the game makes it pretty evident that Goko is Kagutsuchi's replacement. He brings light to your world so that means he's been controlling the moon cycles but you do nothing with him. You can't even kill him. It's a waste.

>>571728503
>it affects the content of the chest
Hated that shit, running in circle around the chest is just a waste of time.

https://store-jp.nintendo.com/item/software/D70010000106566
It is out

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Does anyone else feel like SMT 2's plot just kinda... stops and meanders at certain points? Like, the part where you gotta collect Masakado's body parts and revive him right after Abbadon swallows Valhalla. Obviously, the game needs some way to introduce you to the underground communities and stuff, but... it more so feels like a side quest you tackle to pass the time while the plot picks back.
Or, how about Moloch's tail cropping in Holytown, sucking the life force out of people, where you then later see him in the Makai overworld map and... do nothing about it.
Just a lot of stuff that doesn't seem to amount to much, or, gets dropped off entirely.

>>571734523
oh yeah, Japonrees onry...

>>571728503
If moonphase had more of an impact it could easily get super annoying because the only way to change it is to run in circles a bunch. I'm fine with it being just gem chests

have you ever thought of making a smt fangame or writing a not-smt story?

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>>571755532

>>571756638
I just write SMT smut

>>571740521
why did you ignore my smt2 post :(
it's why I like SMT1 more though.

>>571756638
>have you ever thought of making a smt fangame
Yes, but every demon is Alice

>>571765562
Now that I think about it the Amala Network really does kind of feel like the Backrooms of Nocturne

Anyone else noticed that the anons that were begging for a Switch 2 port of VV are now quiet after what Sega pulled with Sonic Frontiers DE?

>>571756638
I had thought of a SMT story that's based more around conspiracies. There's a ton of those conceptual demons around it like Chemtrails. Think like, every conspiracy is true and demons are behind every one of them.

>>571768146
No because I didn't even associate the two.

>>571758113
I finished SMT2 but i didnt care much about the story sorry

>>571758113
I genuinely did not catch that post, my bad.

>>571756638
Had an idea once like a SMT1 style dungeon crawler roguelike with choosable origins so like demon summoner, demi-fiend, atma avatar, persona. NO idea how to balance the different origins. Persona would probably be the most OP if you use their rules because you could swap movesets/affinities and still use equipment.

>>571772527
I just pretty much said the same things you did lol

>>571769320
You should, since it's a clear indicator how a hypothetical SMT VV Switch 2 port would even be like

>>571782335
Except no one is asking for a port just an update to increase the fps and resolution.

>>571775574
>you use their rules because you could swap movesets/affinities and still use equipment.
that's called soul hackers 2

>>571709386
Same anon as this one. Just beat him with possibly the dumbest of ass strategies of all time.
>Gaea Rage and Luminescent Mirage
>Use Demi-fiend like an all around support, Chaotic Will, Deadly Fury, Medariama whenever each one is needed
>Spam Gaea rage every turn on Naho and Mirage on inbetween
It was a slog, I don't have a timer but it felt like eternity and I used up every single Bead chain, Soma and Chakra item I had. I just can't believe my neanderthal ass strategy of HIT BIG AOE worked on hard.

It all returns to STR doesn't it. Every time.

>>571728503
Moon phases need other mechanics to make sense. It's a system to force variation and shake things up. DS/SH try this by having moon phase affect all demon strength on a per race basis, so things won't always one-shot like you're used to.

Consider negotiation. You can negotiate out of battle if you've recruited a demon already EXCEPT during full moons. So the strategy of talking your way out isn't always valid. Similarly, you can't normally recruit dark demons but in Nocturne, but sometimes you can during full moons. IV onwards gut a lot of mechanics, so dark/light don't mean anything. V carries that forward, so you end up with totally perfunctory moonphases that at best jumpscare you with that one full moon SFX.

SMTIV/V don't have random encounters and I don't VI will, but I guess one way would be to change which enemies aggro and how intensely based on moonphase. It's too easy to just avoid encounters you don't want as is - having an enemy outrun you on full moon might work. Other then that, they just need more mechanics so they can have friction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6LPBRikPcU
billion code gameplay

>>571795045
>jumpscare you with that one full moon SFX.
Don't forget it also changes the theme of the Cathedral of shadows

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Like I said in the previous thread, I kinda would like it, for some strange reason, if they added Slenderman as a demon since Mothman is already in. If they're afraid of some copyright issues or think it would be too weird, they could also go with the variant from early lore called Der Ritter.

>>571804889
Doi's Slenderman will be wearing Doi's bodysuit/armor with swirls

Japan bro here.. is the discord still around?

>>571810523
no

Da monster

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HOLY SHIT
Kaneko just dropped a massive lore bomb for Nocturne on twitter.
>Actually, Nocturne isn't the "true" Shin Megami Tensei III; it’s more of a prequel. That’s why it bears the subtitle "Nocturne".
>The full truth was supposed to be revealed in the actual Shin Megami Tensei III

SMT III was supposed to be a 2 part game. Is that what V turned into? Did they write the premise for it and just weren't able to execute it? Did Yamai write it with Kaneko? Did they resurrect it with SMTV? Is that actually what fucking happened?

>>571817185
Also the "full truth" he's referring to is the truth behind conception. Someone had asked him about it because how the conception started in III confused him and that was Kaneko's answer.

Also I saw a post where Kaneko said he would love a collab with his Tsukuyomi game and Dx2.
You can't make this shit up. He really said this. Fucker why did you leave Atlus?

True Shin Megami Tensei...

>>571819715
his drawing didn't age well i didn't want to imagine modern SMT with his art, i imagine one of the reasons why he left is atlus started to move him away from doing more character designs.

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>>571782335
I really don't think Sega has any major impact on what Atlus wants to do. Maybe they cracked the whip on going multiplatform, but I'm not sure. The winds have been blowing that way for some time now. 8th gen feels like the last hurrah of arbitrary console exclusives when you're not getting a big check from a first party. Even Vanillaware is dipping their toes into PC now.
If Sega had absolute control over Atlus's affairs, I think they would've pushed Persona 6 onto Hoshino rather than allowing Metaphor to be made.

>>571813497
I just left that server like 3 days ago.. what a shame..

>>571825161
No, what we know now it seems to be Kaneko was pushing for making mobile games and for whatever reason Atlus resisted. Something happened between them, Kaneko gave up all the rights to his art to Atlus, and he then left the company.

The reason "no one wanted to hire him" wasn't because his art was "outdated" (Yoshitako Amano still gets work), but because Kaneko specifically wanted to break into the mobile gaming world and failed to until ColoPL.

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/shin-megami-tensei-artist-kazuma-kaneko-reveals-he-left-atlus-10-years-ago-to-pursue-mobile-game-development/

>Moving to development for handheld consoles wasn’t “it” for Kaneko either, as he was eager to make games that use network connectivity and the latest technology of smartphones. “My previous company had titles that incorporated online features and tech, but I never got the chance to work on those projects. That’s part of why I was looking for an environment where I could actually do the kind of work I wanted to do.”