skitPreviously on /coopg/: >>571705623>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived. https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
I WILL join your all skitarii lobby as anything but skitarii
New player, just did Expeditions for the first time. That was easily the most unfun shit I have ever experienced in a video game. If that was the whole of Darktide, I'd have dropped it within the hour.I'm vaguely aware this was a post-release addition, don't tell me this was Fatshark trying to ape Helldivers 2, because that's what it feels like.
>thought arc rifle would be the worst gun of skittles>is actually the greatestZAP ZAP ZAP GET ZAPPED GET ZAPPED GET ZAPPED GET ZAPPED GET ZAPPED
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>unlock trans bladesNot bad, but still wish I had the tacaxe.
The Flame Servo skull and the personal shield should have been cooldown abilities. Picking up grenade packs is cringe.
>>571753973It's like how they're called the Astra Millitarum but everyone in game still calls them the Imperial guardEveryone knows its just for copyright issues on the actual miniatures.>tfw my skit killed manlets to secure toaster looting rightsfeels good man
do I want extra stam on skibidi? I've never actually used extra stam trinkets outside of vet, are they good?also do cooldown reducing blessings actually work with skibidi?
>>571754192>doesn't electrocute
How's ranged Skitarii?
>>571749482My main issue is that the dreg vanguard are deceptively tanky because their model is exactly the same as other dregs but they have so much more health. If they had a different model that better represented their increased effective health then it wouldn't be so bad.Scab vanguard are armored so it doesn't feel as bad smacking their increased effective health around.Both probably should have looked like maulers with shields or something.
>Soritas are superior to veterans in any possible way, outside of only female genderSo, if they ever added, what'll be the point of playing as weak ass imperial guard loser?Also, chances for commissar class?
>>571754192kek same. I love seeing bodies gib from the lightning too
>>571754184Everyone hates expeditions and the only people who play it are doing it for penance cosmetics, I would suggest sticking to the mission terminal
Got the 'Do Mortis Trial' penance and armor related to it.It counts only if you do the Trial fully, starting from the party gather screen. Connecting mid mission doesn't count.
>>571754420>comissars being thrown into meat grinder to fight equally alongside methheads?
Using Voltaic Emitter to break enemy guns is wildly inconsistent. I am frequently walking up to groups and shocking them and there'll be one or two enemies in the group whos guns work just fine and keep shooting me
>>571754192I really hope you're aiming it, hipfire gets one less chainlightning jump
>>571754249Flame skull on a cooldown would've incorporated all 3 resources (recharge time, capacitance, blitz uses) in a single blitz which would've been quite cool.
>>571754542I feel like slight elevation differences or something being between you can fuck it up
>>571754509It doesn't even count if you joined during wave 1Unless you're hosting or in the lobby before it launches? Abort
>>571754381Doesn't exist, at best you can spam arc rifle but if your goal is to play ranged vet, arby, psyker and ogryn all do it better
>>571754542think there is a hard cap for how many it can disable.
>>571754381Ive not reached level 30 yet but the aimbot tree is pretty fun with the arc thrower. The ammo pool is large and fires fairly slow so the 1% ammo generated every 15 seconds lets you stretch your ammo quite a bit. But im not a h40 powergaymer, I just play Aurics.
>>571754515Happens more often than not, not all of them are general level like CainGenerally all small squads can have one, if you have points
>>571754249Yeah, that would've been much better.I think they could balance the servoskull still around a cooldown, but everytime you use the skull it costs a charge. Like for example if you use the skull to hack a terminal it costs 1 charge, if you send it to revive somebody it costs 1 charge, etc.Keep the charges at 4 but make the recharge time be like 60 seconds. Or even 70 seconds.
>>571754381Good until you run out of arc rifle ammo2 shots every 15 seconds is not enoughI recommend bringing a combat knife so you can slurp up all the ammo ahead of everyone else
>>571754184>don't tell me this was Fatshark trying to ape Helldivers 2, because that's what it feels like.It was. Radar telling you where you need to go, various forms of artillery and airstrikes you call in yourself, a time limit, multi-stage objectives, they weren't even being subtle. But Fatshark are retards and don't understand why Helldivers works, mainly that teamplay is optional in that game, whereas it isn't in Darktide. You also get potentially 20 revives in Helldivers so lives are expendable, and your gear is intentionally overpowered. Far too many times in Expeditions have I been blindsided by like five fucking gunners who appeared from nowhere.
You know, I think only 2 new weapons, 0 blitzes and 2 abilities, one of which is basically a stupid strong crowbar hit on cd, is a bit too little content for a dlc.
How's the galvanic rifle? Strength blessings or crit blessings?
>forced to play with mouth breathing unmuted mic using newfagsfuck I hate levelling
Something like this for sonic blades?
>>571754567>Stat sheet says hipfire and charged do the same damage. Refuses to elaborate.Thats good to know. Ive been spamming aimed shots anyway because I feel like its more accurate though.
>>571754856racist against swedes
>>571754420Same as every other DLC classPiss toughnessWe're only getting the shitty sisters who failed and now have to get chummy with rejects because they failed in some arbitrary penance and they ran out of penitent engines to strap them toZealot will still be the only one with faith based piss toughness and it'll likely make the sisters super salty in dialogue
>>571754856They have to release a new class every quarter you can't expect it to have a ton of new content.
>>571754192>doesn't electrocute>creates a trail of thick black smoke so you can't see what you're shooting atother than that it's nice, awful reload time is easily negated with the refilling magazine talent
>>571755017Are you sure it's critical hit damage and not critical damage? Because it's a big difference.Anyway, I'd go with Rampage or Superiority instead of Perfect Strike. And I'd dump Critical Bonus.
>>571754351To be fair Votann are slightly different. All "votann" are squats, but not at all squats are all "votann"They are called specifically the Leagues of Votann, "Votann" however actually refers to the so called "Ancestor Cores", basically gigantic STC computers that the Leagues of Votann culture centers around. The Ancestor Cores are the ones who clone more kin, aka squats, and are ones who build the ironkin as well.The Votann Ancestor Cores are self aware and sapient but they are basically going slowing down and slowly breaking. So the squats are desperate to find ways to repair them. Also the kin use the Cores as a data repository and store valuable knowledge and data on them, but as a twist of irony it's this information storage that's also slowing them down.Basically the Ancestor Cores are going "senile" and it's because nobody has thought about using CCleaner on them, defragging their hard drives and then turning computer off and then rebooting it.
>>571754994Had some retard bitch about "rushing ahead" in Malice because we didn't stay back and help him kill some straggling groaners. Retard ended up getting netted 3 rooms away from us because he couldn't hold W through empty fucking map space. Lower difficulties are truly an interesting experience.
>>571754773Right, but there’s no instances of thousands of them being thrown into be mulched, they usually command vastly bigger forces than themselves
>>571754192Phosphor pistol is superior on melee builds>Quick draw>Deletes specials from hip fire>Can snipe>Debuffs bosses
>>571755017I run Riposte + Precog. Shred is a good option instead of Riposte too, just depends on which you prefer. I dislike losing Shred stacks on a miss (which includes hitting freshly made corpses). An anon was talking about the one that has special attacks giving bonus strength, but I didn't like the need to constantly do the phase change+follow-up attack since the phase swap is a bit clunky to use in combat.
>>571754420class power doesnt work like that in tide games. like in vt2 you can be a regular ass merc and perform just as well as some mythical hero tier class. of course space marine is a whole otehr level in 40k tho
I just remembered a couple weeks ago someone here tried to tell me the skull would take up the stim slot instead of the blitz. How does it feel to be wrong faggot? Hahahaha
>>571755654>of course space marine is a whole otehr level in 40k thoUnless...
>>571754515arbites and commissar are both from the schola progenium so i think theyre on a similar level
>>571755383>it's this information storage that's also slowing them down.
artificer servo skull triggers ranged effects from the right side of the tree. so the best melee build is taking both ranged and melee stacking effects and using servo skull to trigger all of them.
>>571756105Sisters of battle are also from the schola progenium
>>571754174nice! can you play arbites and take every electrocution talent and weapon?
>>571756325servo chads keep winning
>lights out>tag daemonhost so we can avoide it>servo skull starts shooting it
more like the clutch claw
>>571756325Noospheric Command also has obscene damage output. I need to get Power DI running again so I can actually discern HOW much damage it's dealing, because it seems absurd.
>>571756527I can't imagine not taking the servo skull. Its weird they made 2 blitzes that dont use the skull.
>>571756678Your deplorable intellect is evident, seek tech-priest adjustment immediately
the pathfinder is so fucking cute I want to fuck her
don't think I can go back to base skill tree structure, feels too retarded
>>571756769literally the only reason for the class to exist, otherwise what are you? a worse veteran or a worse arbussy
the comissary is so dogshit useless its hilarious
>>571756769It's also weird that they made everything but Flensing Protocols inferiorI think they put the other options there for people unwilling to pay a single tax node "Oooh no my backup melee gets +15% damage, the horror" while everything else still affects guns.And it's even easier to maintain your stacks if you're doing a ranged build
I think Skitty SUCKS
>>571756325Is it really? There are so many stacking damage nodes you can get anyway without delving into ranged damage and blitzes. If I wanted to take the ranged stuff and skull, I suppose I'd drop Capacitor Reclamation Loop and Shockline Breach. Then I'd have to drop the other cleave/impact talent to get a point in the skull so it had the permanent fire-rate increase. That would get me some more TDR and the stacking damage on ranged kills vs elites, sure, but I'm really not a fan of giving up ability generation and CC/safety via cleave for a little bit of additive damage (which I suspect wouldn't have the uptime I'd want unless I manually contributed to its generation) and a little it more additive toughness DR. Have you used a mod to check if the skull, through entirely passive means, maintains your ranged kill stacks well? I'm actually curious
>>571757097It doesn't suck but it's extremely boring
>>571756325does the little guy benefit from ranged damage nodes?
>>571757143Skull > 1% capacitance per secondIt shoots trappers sneaking up behind youThe only times I've ever gotten trapped as a skitty is when I ran face first into a web intended for a teammate
>>571757152which of the existing classes do you think is fun?and by extension which vermintide 2 classes?
>>571757287>It shoots trappers sneaking up behind youI shoot the trappers sneaking up behind me
>>571756757It reduces fire interval (1.5s) by additional 85%, so about 0.225s. dealing 256 damage to most armor types.
>>571757187>generally, note that buffs from talents and weapon blessings which apply to player units do not apply to companion unitst. kuliinb4 that one tranny has another melty over kuli lmfao
This piece of shit is cucking me out of all my remaining penances
>>571757097Skitarii is the most fun I've had with my on and off time with this game.
>>571757301veteran, ogryn, and zealot are all good. for vermintide 2 the most fun careers are foot knight, ironbreaker, warrior priest, handmaiden and unchained. i think outcast engineer is up there too in theory, but requires a lot of interdependence i dont like
>>571757393Tell me that you only play on malice without telling me that you only play on malice
>>571757187nope, only from enemy debuffs
>>571757301I didn't play vt2All of the existing classes are more fun than skittle, I'd say psyker and ogryn are the most fun, and zealot is the least fun
>>571757589well i dont see why you would think skit is boring thenits not like the mind numbing arbites on launch
>>571757559the icon on that is so fucking retarded
>>571757097Good that means all of the shitters will stop playing my favorite class soon
>>571757612No, I've played a bit of H40 in three seasons, got tired of Party Finder, and now only play Auric. It's not that hard to shoot trappers. The only exception is with the noise bug, but you typically still hear them at one point or another and know to expect them from a particular direction. Stop projecting
>>571757679>zealot is the least funwhy is zealot the least fun
>>571757559I swear this piece of shit is bugged.
>>571757921it's elite units only
>bolt pistols>mk4 has more ammo and damage>mk6 has...?What's the idea here? I must be missing something obvious?
nobody wants the fagbot in their havocs, huh...
>>571757965That's the fucking problem. Dreg gunners NEVER get their weapons disabled. It only counts both variants of Scabs and Dreg shotgunners and I get almost exclusively dreg gunners.
>>571757903because it has no variety and you're either stuck meleeing or staring at your relic for the entire game
>>571754509The expedition one doesn't count unless you go through every zone lol
>>571758097>and you're either stuck meleeing>stuck meleeingOh no, not the most fun activity in the game! Oh, the humanity!
>>571757287Skull is fucking useless. It does no damage and shoots one enemy every 30 seconds. Absolute garbage
>>571758075AoE explosion
>>571758075increased aoe
>>571758075huge stagger areasee that blob of shooters and gunners? bang bang. Now they all stopped shooting, pissing their pants. And some fall over. Very nice crowd control
>>571755017crit bonus is 1% and 1-2% off of your damage multipliercrit bonus does absolutely nothing past 76%
>>571758152>T didn't invest in his skullBase skull is worthless, that's my entire pointNoosphere skull deletes enemies and even without it, it'll still handle specials sneaking up behind youAs long as they aren't crushers
>>571757143i didn't hit 30 yet but this is my build. It focuses on toughness regen and toughness damage reduction. gonna go for down for melee buffs.
DMF and DML out on nexus for anyone still waiting.
There's some NEW fucking players holy shit
>all of these fly by night bandwagon hoppers only here for skitarii shitting up the game and this threadGo away. You will be gone in a week anyway.
>>571758796What kind of retard hopes his game has less players?
>>571758430I wasn't a fan of the top right keystone at all since I don't like not having control over some of its aspects, and other parts seem pretty (under)whelming. It does have some nice things to it though. Hope it works well for ya. There's definitely a lot of stuff I'd like to take on the right side of the tree, but my priority is buffing melee and Claw generation (which in turn buffs my damage with one of the only strength granting nodes in the tree). That said, I'm a lazy fucker who can't be bothered to check all the breakpoints. This game really needs an easy-to-use calculator that lets you input weapon and talent set-ups, spits out a spreadsheet of breakpoints, and then lets you tweak your setup to see how breakpoints change. Can't be bothered to do that manually in the MG, and anyway, MG breakpoints aren't necessarily the same as in-game breakpoints since 3 other people are damaging stuff too. Easier to just stack damage and call it a day, even if that's not the absolute best approach.
>>571759010These retards aren't players. They are sheep. They don't even like the game they just see shiny new thing.
>>571758796>shitting up the game and threadyou say this like there's anything to discuss about the game
>>571759323>Darktide>Shiny new thing
>>571758075It was a free weapon that Fatshark added, it's meant to be bad.
>>571758796>He unironically wants to go back to bait posting about piss lasguns, ogryns and sissies of battleYou had your time, now is the age of skitty
>>571754567Are you 100% certain? I'm seeing it jump up to 3 times (with Enhanced Volatic Arcs) against dreg shotgunners both with and without ADSing
>>571758796You sound like you're on estrogen.
I still don't understand capacitance
Man, halberd would go hard on skitarii, especially with those medieval-like helmet
>>571759570scroll down to the arc lightning sectionhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3674757853
>>571759682It's just percentage of ability cooldown generation
>>571757589How do you play ironbreaker? The last time I tried it I was playing chaos wastes and a lightning bolt kept upgrading the enemies I had trouble killing
>>571759682You gain capacitance, at 100 capacitance you gain one charge of your ability
>dodge mutie on skitarii>it feels like the most sluggish dodge I've ever done, even worse than arbites>hear the dodge sound>get hit anyway>dodge a trapper net>get hit anyway
>>571758796I just don’t like when the threads are so blazing fast. I miss out on discussion.
>>571758242>>571758261>>571758276Thanks gamersNow I don't know which one to use on a melee scoom lol
I'm going to fucking cum, uh~
>>571759682>he skipped the tutorial
>>571759735>perfect opportunity to add the Halberd from Vermintide>dontWhy do they do this?
>>571760125>3 weeks now of WhY No OmNIsSiAN axEits still a games workshop property at the end of the day
>>571756105Yes, but that’s not really the issue.>>571755383Don’t forget it also acts as a kind of afterlife paradise for the Kin, they literally upload themselves into it. The irony is that they’re super greedy and stingy with everything but the one thing they should be actually conserving. They’d evening set up for some 40k retribution.
>>571760125They're saving it for another classOnly tech priests get omnissian axes
What's the point of the three stab claw talent, it seems to be doing less damage than the normal charged claw attack?
I'll tell you what's annoying, I'm a slut for minion characters so the fact that my two most favorite characters, that being Arbitrator and Skitarii, ended up being DLC sours me in a very petty and strange way. Like my playstyle wasn't good enough to entertain in the vanilla game.
>>571760513So ya's just complainin ta complain
>>571760417>sister of battle with a jump packGRIIIIIIIMNIR*jumps into an abyss*
>>571760606I said I'm a petty slut.
>>571760513Trust me when I say that darktide at launch was jank enough without a pet class making it even more so
>>571760417>be sister of battle canoness>open window>die
>>571760417>another maulNO PLEASE NO FUCK OFF
So the darktide DLC flopped because the game devs don't know how to balance things.
>>571759745Weird>table shows that ADS can jump twice and non-ADS can jump onceWhich with EVA should mean non-ADS can only jump twice with EVA, but I've seen it deal damage to 4 total targets multiple times while testing in the meat grinder. Now with Scab Flamers as well. That said, it seems on rare occassions, ADS can hit 5 total targets. I'm not sure why there's a discrepancy. It seems tied to carry over damage from one target dying. Either way, it appears you and Kuli are right. I love undisclosed mechanics so much it's unreal.
>>571760974What if I told you that they have 3 different types of mauls all with different designs and sizes?
I HATE THE SISTERS OF BATTLE, THEY ARE GOOFY JOBBERS AND ARE ONLY POPULAR BECAUSE OF GOONERS.
>>571759810Your weapon not 400-500 yet?
>>571761136>floppedI have never seen a login queue that long when trying to get into darktide before
>>571761145Jump aside does the projectilr cleave?
>>571761263>can't enjoy the idea of pious ladies who take up arms in the name of their god without it being tied to masturbation>>>/resetera/
>>571761385>imagine being this new>>571761256Now this reminds me that Skittles didn't even get any marks for their weapons. What the fuck.
I just got the dream team penance despite two people dying to corruption during the mission.
>>571759810>>it feels like the most sluggish dodge I've ever done,You were out of dodgescombat knife skit still flies halfway across the level when dodging
>>571761548Across the entire level when you movement tech off a ledge, on all classes except scum (who goes to fucking space)
>>571761524>didn't even get any marks for their weaponsThe plasmagun has two marks :^)
>>571761462Not normally. I was spawning stuff in a line. It only seemed to damage secondary, teriary, quaternary targets through arcs. It generally seemed that when a target with little health was killed, a minor portion of damage apparently carried to another target (like in the 70-90 damage range when most arcs are in the multi-hundreds). I've written off at this point. I never noticed a 5-target damage instance with non-ADS, so it seems that Kuli is correct regardless of whatever oddities are happening.
>>571761719That's cultural appropriation
anyone get the flame skull to work?
>>571760679They got the dwarf!
>>571761527Dream Team is without being downed. Dying to corruption immediately puts them into the death state, therefore never downing.That's the power of Chaos.
At least this one doesn't have the cuffs making it more appealing but I still can't think of any headpiece worth using along with it.
>>571761813Typical precursor reaction
So what's the havoc build for skitari?
>>571761817It does piddling damage. I haven't even bothered doing the penance for it
I like that the servo skulls visually show up
>>571762008skullelectroflensing
>>571762201I don't care for the fact that they're glued to the character instead of meandering around in the airI don't care for the fact that they don't have thrusters
>>571761524I'm still annoyed that we got skittles instead of a tech priest because I want to hit things with an omnissan axe.
>>571762310>meandering around in the airI bet they tried to do this, but they just kept clipping through terrain and other players
>>571762232>electroSurely not
>>571762232I think overload is better, it's kinda like BP
>>571762008I'm going to test it out probably tomorrow or on the weekend. I've already got my 40, so I can afford to fuck around. I suspect it's going to revolve around Noospheric Command and having near-veteran sniping power at the cost of zero ammo, while also having ammo regen. I think leaving the ability slot blank might actually be a viable play, too, although claw is probably nice to have. Probably flensing if only for the +5%.
>>571762473>instantly stops any wall of crushers/maulers/ragers in the tracks>Disables all heavy gunners within 30 meters for 12 seconds as long as you got at least 2 charges before blowing your electric load all over the rottersChord Claw is just krak grenades with extra steps and aimbot is worthless compared to both of the other options
>grabbed a console player with fucking zealot charge in havocmaybe I should get the build checker mod...
>>571762815>Disables all heavy gunners within 30 meters for 12 secondsThis would be amazing if it weren't buggy as fuck and more often than not stopped by random small pieces of geometry and minimal elevation differences.
you cant use the arc grenade for disabling shooters, it just kills them outright
>>571762815>a single pulse of very short duration stun>when there are multiple ways to lock down an armor blob completely for half a minute at a time>gunners within 30m not already getting their faces stabbedmy current cope is that skit is going to get a punch of post launch buffs, because fatshark really took a beating during hive scum launch and didn't want a repeat>show hive scum on playtest massively fun and overpowered>nerf it into (comparative) oblivion>show skitarii on playtest as it basically is right now>change virtually nothing, I think base blitz no longer costs charges and that's the only difference I've seenthey want to garner post-launch buff good will this time instead of having to desperately try to make everyone stop yelling at them
why are people like this
>>571762473It makes sense. A stun isn't going to experience diminishing benefits from rising enemy HP values. I expect claw gets fucked over pretty hard by the increase in HP, hit mass, and numbers. That said, I haven't touched Havoc in ages, and certainly haven't played it as Skitarii.
>>571763471skitarii with anything but chordclaw is absolutely worthless on bosses, armor, fucking everything larger than a mauler
>>571763421To be fair it MIGHT be preferable to risk the wounds and just hit up the medicae that you know spawns enough pips to heal you, saving the medkit for the hardest objectives on the map. Assuming it's a hard map.I would also immediately drop the medkit when that many people are that low, assuming there's no medicae around the corner.
>>571763421There wasn't a medicae within a reasonable distance, I assume
>>571763421sometimes you can save it until there's a horde and you have objectives to accomplish, cause you can save it for a harder part, if everyone has themselves together..
>>571763052This, the AoE on the electro pulse is bugged to shit and almost never works
I forgot about exp bonus on curios hehe
Got the fire skullTurns out the spawns that come out with the captain on the first assassination mission is more than enough on damnation difficultyGot me level 30 too
>>571763582Chordclaw damage isn't crazy vs bosses. This is how much it does to Auric Plogryn after I went and smacked a Reaper in the face to build 5 stacks of whatever stacks with on-hit stuff (what you'd reasonably have while hitting a boss without going out of your way). And if it doesn't continue to one-shot Crushers with Havoc HP values, it's going to be immediately less valuable. If it doesn't one-shot Crushers, it's an easy thing to give up.
>>571763582>>571763842Too busy eating japapeno kettle chips to post the image. My bad
all the skitarri fags running chordclaw means i can just have fun not shooting crushers its great
>>571763582yeah but skitarii compensates by providing in other areas such as uhh....
>>571763685People think healing is just something you can burn Like fucking retard if the team is struggling to keep their health up 100% it's better to save it for a horde/ambush/roadblock than waste it just to top offI'm dying on the inside watching people just burn resources like candyIncidentally it's the same tards that larp as ogryns babysitting "lil'uns" and the same tards that eat up every ammo box just to satisfy their OCD
>>571763582>infinite brittleness from electrocuting stuff>constantly electrocuting shit>phosphor for its separate bullshit>insert melee of your choiceNot really
>>571763387>We intentionally made it wrong just so we can have you praise us for fixing it laterThat does sound very swedishI hope they remove the line of sight requirement entirely and make it go through wallsBecause it sure as shit goes through walls when it comes to waking up daemonhosts
>>571763582current skitarii feels designed for the game a couple years back
>>571764150>constantly electrocuting shitnot with the arc rifle you're not
>>571764112on low difficulties it's fine however
>>571763842I'd argue it was a decent rager deletion tool but the range, commitment, and the inability to cancel block with it is atrocious
>>571763826Watch it not be a light source on maps with the darkness modifier
>>571763387you're telling me the default blitz that does virtually nothing used to consume a nade???
Am i crazy or is the medicae servo skull bugged, impossible to activate on people>>571762461>they just kept clipping through terrain and other playerseverything in this game clips though
>>571763604>>571763615there WAS a nearby medicae but no one had any corruption and i'm sure as fuck this guy had no idea where the stations are. generally when the squad is 50% or lower i'd say you always throw down a pack UNLESS there is a medicae AND it's a drop down right after. it's way too much of a gamble to pray that people can get downed and rezzed safely to 'maximize' an upcoming medicae.if you drop a pack and there's a medicae nearby and no drop down, you can always clear the current horde/upcoming roamers and go back to grab the medicae (or alternatively a boss might spawn that forces you to pull back)>>571763685keep in mind this is damnation with 4 leveling skits and not havoc/auric, i have 0 faith that people at this level could survive an encounter where they start off with 10%the funny thing is another player dropped a heal, and then immediately in the next encounter after the medicae like 2 people dropped to 50% hp immediately.
>>571763582?Phosphor does decent DPS and buffs everyone else while you're doing it
>>571764339Low or high it doesn't matter people are working on such high, twitchy apm and the need to do stuff they don't think and just use shit, it makes for bad habitsNever would have happened in VT2 since FF is a thing, you get gunned down quick by your own team for shooting so wantonly
I am saddened to understand Reverent doesn't have a womb anymore because I'd be knocking this metal bitch up like a 9-5.
>>571764464>i'm sure as fuck this guy had no idea where the stations are. generally when the squad is 50% or lower i'd say you always throw down a pack UNLESS there is a medicae AND it's a drop down right after.The bossiest players have the least game sense 100%
>>571764592you know what they look like under the cloak right
>>571764431You need a direct line of sight to activate it, probably getting cucked by level geometry because it'll fly really far to save someone in expeditions where it's a large open map
fuck you guys I'm using aimbot with garand it's fun, though the aimbot isn't very helpful because it can still miss even if the enemy head is lit up
>>571764683Anon I made her, I know what she looks like. I picked the meat slab.With a voice and personality that cute, the penis wins.
>>571764592She has an attachment, just stick your dick in thatIt's like fish eggs
>>571764739Strafing shenanigansMake sure they aren't moving side to side, but standing still or running at/away from you
>>571764775>fish eggs
>>571764850just shouldn't be the case at all, the ability is already bad enough
>Trying to complete 1 expedition as Skitarii for a penance>Disconnected from server>Rejoin>Mission failedFUCK YOU FATSHARK
I don't know why people are complaining about the weapon malfunction penance.Yeah it's slow and gay and it forces you to use 1 specific ability but that's nothing new.
>>571764919That's what I've been saying about the ilas since launch, but it's the same issue, and it's fucking stupid
>>571764592The mechanicus have access to artificial wombs, there is no reason to suffer through the primitive pains of natural childbirth for these people.If you're lucky she kept her ovaries on ice in case she ever met a special someone.Assuming that she wouldn't prefer a vat-grown designer baby instead
>>571764919That's probably just the hitreg issue rearing its head, which has existed since launch
So when is skitarii getting weapons that aren't worthless
>>571765009Bruh who cares about birthing painsThey can just disconnect or connect their pain receptors at will
>>571765116Bro your Arc Maul and Arc Rifle?
>>571765116>DLC classes>Getting new weapons or cosmetics*Cries in arbiter*
>>571765116Id say plasma but that got nerfed because vet was OP
Where did you guys put your Reverent voices? I cant find a good medium, she either becomes super squeaky or loses all the nuance with heavy distortion
>>571765241They care since it's inefficient to gestate a child inside of yourself by their standards, when they can just shove the sperm and egg in a tank and come back 9 months later.Mechanicus are not exactly a faction known for their promiscuityThey're space monks who worship knowledge and technology
>>571764112resources are meant to be spenti'd rather have someone use a heal slightly too early rather than have 2 people down in an encounter and now you have to gamble rezzing them or fall back and now have to play to the next rez spot as a 2 man, which in havoc with no spawn pity can very well mean a run end.if they're struggling to keep up their hp 100% then they are the ones that need the heal more than anyone else, you can't assume a retard who struggles with basic mobs and takes health damage to suddenly be able to handle a boss spawn while staying in a tiny circlepeople wiping with crates is way more common than people using up all their resources too early and being starved to death>>571764676funny thing is we almost wiped at the end and i had to solo clutch
>>571765387Arbite shotgun is still by far the best and easiest weapon to sleepwalk through Auric missions
Just got vote kicked from my auric group as skitty...
Bro got 80085 in...
I like to think last line hints at some sort event at end of game when they will make everyone corrupted by chaos or impregnated by genestealers and announce darktide 2
>>571765827Yeah well I'm not rewarding that kind of behavior and as you said it doesn't matterDipshit thinks he knows the game maybe his first class shouldnt be a squish ball like skitarii>Resources are meant to be spentFor every medic pack placed down 5 feet from a medicare all I can say is dumb fuck that
i wish we had a more melee centric ability for skitarii, no i dont want to use chordclaw because i want to use my weapons combos, volatic emitter is fine for a panic button / deleting gunners, but it still just feels like a half-baked taunt to me
>>571765843The only new mark I see Arby's getting is like a taunt shield variant of the suppression shieldFrom what I've seen of them in shorts and RT, they seem complete
>>571765685This is the one I ended up finding the most soothing / least annoying.
>>571766390Thanks nonny, will try that and see how it is
>>571766390Yeah I picked that one, sounds like a NERD in game
>>571766369The huge problems with chordclaw>Does not seamlessly work with block>Range is dog shit>Awkward as fuck like a chainaxe so you're stuckIt just doesn't mesh well in melee like the grail knight divine bonk
>>571766374>Just delete Ogryn and make his core ability a weapon special for ArbyWow I'm a Ogryn hater and a Arby fanboy but even I wouldn't be that cruel to the behemoth
>>571764431>>571764686I realized the issueboth flamer and medicae are under G
>>571766390I don't have a screenshot, but mine was in the top rightish area too. I think my bottom slider was far right though.
>>571765734Love and affection isn't entirely alien to them, it's just heavily subdued. I remember a story in some book, no idea which, in which a male tech priest found himself pining over a female coworker after they chose to speak normally instead of binharric. He found her voice beautiful, to the point he wished she'd speak all the time.
why is 40k so boring compared to Fantasy? Out of everything and they chose literal hive city
>>571761256>another fucking maul + shield weaponJust no. At least make it a sword or an axe, man.
holy fuck chordclaw is so fucking fun to use>DELETE THIS for basically anything>can upgrade to 3 little stabs>can time them to kill 3 dudes or just hold to do the normal heavy claw>same with the sweepmeow
>>571766537>Range is dog shitIt's about the same range as your melee. Seems ~1:1 with trans blades at least. My only issue is that holding it for single target is awkward with how I have it bound, and it's difficult to maneuever while doing so. And we can't multi-bind by default for some God forsaken reason. I wouldn't want to change my ability bind completely since E is fine for every other ability, and I'm very used to it being there.
niggas still think chordclaw is good because of the claw itself and not because being able to quickly spend a single charge is amazing for your capstones
>>571766492Reverent is a massive nerd and it fits perfectly for cosplaying as a tech priest or stygian heretek here to pilfer atoma's toasters
>>571766829My keystone is Flensing. It is, however, nice with the +strength and +damage on charge gain/ability use nodes, but so is Voltaic, so it's a moot point.
i want to smell a skitarii so motherfucking bad holy shit
>>571766853Give me a fuck huge axe/halberd. It doesn't need to be an omnissian axe. Just give me meaty 2H weapons.
>>571766938and it's amazing with flensing, you can get full stacks back on demandit's impossible to fuck up with flensing + claw even if you play like a donkey
our favorite German heretic talking shit to pathfinder skittles
>>571767041have you heard them say anything else so far?
>>571767040>and it's amazing with flensing, you can get full stacks back on demandThat is the one node I don't use lel. You do have a point though. I wasn't considering that node at all
>>571766758Don't worry they have sword and board tooBut they also have way too many mauls for my liking, so we're definitely getting at least one whether we want it or not.
>>571767103NTA
>>571766565Make no mistake ogryn needs to be remade>2x slower attacks>3X higher damage>Infinite cleave>Have one of the abilities be a kick that works like sion's E from LOL DMSO you're bowling with enemies>Retool the charge since it's dog shit, have him stack/corral all the basic enemies he charges into but knock down all specials/elites he runs past>Give ogryn one magazine for all his guns, but every shooter he kills in melee gives him 1 free shot but every ranged elite he kills gives him 5 seconds of zero ammo cost (or a free reload for non magazine guns)>If a teammate picks up an ammo he gets a % mag reload. Rounding up>Ogryn cannot sprint, but can press the sprint button to shoulder check forward, applying brittleness and stagger>Ogryn glove reverted to be a non shit melee weapon if used as suchThere I fixed ogryn
>>571754509It irritates the fuck out of me there's not alternate color variants for the deluxe and slop shop shit. It wouldn't have been that fucking hard
>>571767340>2x slower attacksSo you want him to get stunlocked by ragers and die?Cool
>>571767340>slower attackstoughness generation is almost directly correlated to attack speed anon
>>571766790I can't do E, im used to FE is awkward as fuck
>>571758145I didn't realize that until after I finished one that I joined halfway through. I don't think I have the heart to go through a full expedition since its such a boring gamemode.
>>571767402>RecolorsMaybe, but it will cost you 4000 Aquillas
>>571767615F is my interact key, always.
>>571766679True>>571766853They’re the followers of the Omnissiah’s Will chud even Xenos must serve our goals :^)
>>571766829>Finger fuck aimbot toggle>Doesn't even use a full charge>Proc 80TGHLmao it's like the cartel special>>571767475>>571767510Okay then give him TGH on stagger>Shoulder check forward and cancel into bonk>Get TGHHonestly Ogryn being all about mashing light or shooting never stoppingly is just stupid as fuck
>>571767769cyberpunk player
>>571766679Probably because he's a touchless virgin who hasn't banished his emotions to different cores to then be accessed or dismissed at his convenience.
>>571767340agreed. he's fun but thematically it's weak shit. his career abilities should be >picking up an enemy to use as a weapon>a lariat or dropkick that triggers unarmed rage mode>a taunt that allows him to grapple/throw enemies when he gets hit
I like how the flamer skull is clearly scorched/burnt
Haven't seen a single person using the flamer skull. Is it bugged or something?
>>571768142awkward, difficult to use, and a little anemic
>>571767636We both know they're never going to make more outfits for the dlc classes
>>571768142It's just not worth using. Does shit damage, barely staggers groaners, and easy to fuck up what version you're throwing out
>>571767942Nah, I dropped that after like 15 hours. I can't remember what cemented F interact for me, maybe STALKER
>>571768142I see it quite a bit. It's not great though.
>>571757097I think Skitarii is FUN
>>571767820For zeh omnissiah, I'm sure.
>>571768010Compare taunt to iron breaker taunt>Taunt and become nigh invincibleOgryn taunt is just utility with no mind for being coolThey fucking forgot to make it fun
Okay I tried it. Electro brittleness arc maul skitarii is indeed several leagues more powerful than chordclaw transonic blades skitarii.This is incredibly sad. At least the phosphor pistol is xbox hueg.
>servo-skulls are the most overhyped feature of the class>they're all shitI don't wanna use those boring fuck grenades.
>>571768574laspistol skull is great tho
>>571768547Arc maul + phosphor pistol is kino anyway
>>571768142it shares charges with the medicae skull and its a bit awkward to use as you need to hold down G and then release it (can't just click it once to throw out)
>>571768696It's not worth a blitz slot.
If I see another heterochromia skitarii im gonna fucking nuke sweden
I feel like the medicae skull was originally supposed to actually heal+buff but they figured it was too powerful so they turned it into this gimmicky garbage that's only useful if your teammates are falling over in retarded positions constantly.But not too constantly because it costs equipment charges.
>>571768574Low IQ post for a low IQ poster
>>571768859yes it is, especially when all the other blitzs use grenade ammobasically free elite and special ranged kills
>>571769037Which in turn makes havoc players shit themselves and doom post about how shit it isWhich it is quite shitJust not THAT shit
>>571769037I figured they would at least make the skull similar power level to the cyber mastiff but Fatshark dropped the ball pretty hard.
>>571769120No you don't get it brain burst but you can multitask is totally shit, it doesn't matter that it has crazy synergiesIt's shit!
>>571768541yep. everything fatshark has done for vermintide 1 and 2, after the controversy ofc, is like a love letter to the community.it's the complete opposite for darktide, as if it's made with spite and malice. who the fuck asked for hive ganger??? grim fate for grimdark
>>571769284The AoE bleed bomb was fineIt's just that it >Applied on launch and on landing>In an aoe the size of vet aboutWhich was retarded
>>571768916>All those disco particle effectshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4
There's 0 quotable things in darktide. what went so wrong?
>>571769368I don't care for the "who asked for X" bullshitWhat I do care is that ganger punished people with bad game sense, and feels meh in melee probably more so with the new shield fucks
>>57176916890% of the time it does nothing, it's a dead node.Niggas shit on psyker constantly for picking bubble when they could just take cover and then make excuses for something that literally only works when someone dies.
>>571769557Too many voice options, that's why.
I miss Kerillian broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZtfm8zLLgA
>>571768961*homophobia
>>571769557shut your fragging mouth
>>571769557Poggers Bridge...
>>571769826>>571769824ThisIt might have been utterly shit that the characters themselves utterly buttfucked what classes you could play, but they all had fantastic characterization. Saltzpyre is God tier.
>got an arc rifle with 79/61 damage/mobility and one with 78/62 reload speed/mobility>know that there's basically no difference from a 80/60 in practice but autism compels dumping cash for itJUST
>>571769557Strongly agreed with this >>571769824 anon.Too many voice options + character's aren't as strongly defined as they were with ubersreik 5
>>571767932the trick is to spam it to spend charges quickly, if youre on redline capacitors, go below the threshold for a charge for a stack then turn it off and generate a charge and now you have 2 stacks, and rinse and repeat on a threshold for max stacks.
>>571770008>>571770227My idea on how to fix it:>all classes have a dedicated named character with unique lines and interactions and all that jazz>duplicate classes in the same match use a different set of voicelines for "faceless mook" replacements
>>571770008I never really had a problem with that except immediately after DLC career releases. There was enough variety that I enjoyed playing something for every character. Also reminder that Ratclick 2 launched with 15 careers.
>>571769826You now have mecha kerillian with Exterminator skitarii
>>571769557But that's just not true>Vet having an 'oh brother' moment and following up with "next you'll tell me the grey knights are real" sarcastically>Cadia vet going down and being reduced to extreme pettiness, "you'll leave me, just like you left cadia!">There is only war™>Zealots fanboy/girling about the sisters>Zealots fanboy/girling about the space marines>Baggin' em up!
>>571770218Sometimes the store just has a perfect green or grey with the 80/60 stat spread, hell I got two with 60% reload in my shop and bought both so I could sacrifice one
>>571769557
>>571770245All I'm saying is it's gimmicky with the "20 TGH on ability use" abilityIt's not OP or anything but I see FS nerfing it
>>571770375>Dorktide launched with only 4 classes.>Piss vision>Bull Rush>Zealot charge>Light breeze
>>571767340>2x slower attacks>3X higher damage2x slower attacks would be feel kinda shit, I say keep the attack speed the same as it is now but give attacks at least 2x damage as they are now>Infinite cleaveThis is fine, I agree>Have one of the abilities be a kick that works like sion's E from LOL DMSO you're bowling with enemiesIn general I think this could be a generic attack on ogryn. Like having a button you press and you kick.>Retool the charge since it's dog shit, have him stack/corral all the basic enemies he charges into but knock down all specials/elites he runs pastSounds good.>Give ogryn one magazine for all his guns, but every shooter he kills in melee gives him 1 free shot but every ranged elite he kills gives him 5 seconds of zero ammo cost (or a free reload for non magazine guns)If ogryn has only 1 magazine then the magazine should be very big for most of his weapons.Though this wouldn't 100% work for all of them. Like kickback, rumbler and the grenadier gauntlet would be super nerfed by this.>If a teammate picks up an ammo he gets a % mag reload. Rounding upSounds fine.>Ogryn cannot sprint, but can press the sprint button to shoulder check forward, applying brittleness and staggerAs long as they buff his regular walking speed to be faster I'd be ok with this.>Ogryn glove reverted to be a non shit melee weapon if used as suchSounds good.
>>571770347The problem is that we would have definitely had Tertium's DEI squad with nigger-psyker as the leader.
>>571769557I wouldn't say that's entirely true, it's just there's a very limited selection of personalities that I'd consider on par with Vermintide's characters.>Male Veteran - Loose Cannon>Male Psyker - The Seer>Ogryn - Brawler>Arbites - The Maul>Skitarii - The ReverentBrawler is just peak, everybody bounces off of him well. Banter is improved tenfold when he's in the party.>Are you ready to die for the Lex?>I'm ready to die for the Emprah!>Good enough.>Luv the Emprah!
>>571770719>but give attacks at least 2x damage as they are nowOgryn isn't getting a damage buff until they take away his +100% HP and extra woundOnce he's reduced to 2 wounds and arby levels of HP he can be allowed to deal more damageAlso make him smaller, there are better choices for big dudes who can haul around heavy weapons
>>571770526ok the bomber actually is quotable so you win that one
>>571771131There is no weapon in Ogryns roster that a roided up Goliath couldn't also wieldIn fact he'd have access to far more since he could also share guns with human sized classes
>stealth zealot trying to kill the boss>someone runs up behind the boss, making it turn around and slap the stealthed zealot away
>>571770686And to think vet was king>Bolter was goated>Auto loaded the gun>4 vet had razor thin survivability but immense power>Infinite ammo on reconlas because no internal criticism cooldown
>>571771339Also most importantly: Chain axes
>>571771086>(Ogryn) What's a human?>(Vet, with pity) It means absolutely human!
>>571769557Too many personalities.Darktide would've been better off if they made the ubersreik 5 (Four?) in space instead.Give each class a proper name, personality and history/backstory to play off of.I do like many of the personalities we have now, but it is a downgrade since they are less characters and more just random people.Also since I didn't see people say it, the pacing of the missions/game has gotten retardedly out of hand.The enemy spam has gotten to the point that the characters rarely initiate a conversation, or if they do start one there's like 70% chance the conversation gets cut off half way because Trapper spawns and the character notices it.Pacing is just entirely fucked, at launch it was better and conversation were more common because the game didn't spam enemies 24/7 from start to finish.
>>571771650>A humanI meant abhuman
Do you guys think it's worth getting the speed talent for zel if I'm not using the bottom right tree
>>571771835No, it's not, and usually if I need speed I'm rolling a fast sidearm
>>571771778>Also since I didn't see people say it, the pacing of the missions/game has gotten retardedly out of hand.>The enemy spam has gotten to the point that the characters rarely initiate a conversation, or if they do start one there's like 70% chance the conversation gets cut off half way because Trapper spawns and the character notices it.>Pacing is just entirely fucked, at launch it was better and conversation were more common because the game didn't spam enemies 24/7 from start to finish.Trvth Eterminatus. I also despise quickplaying into high-STG every fucking time. It never gives me fun modifiers.
>>571771947Gotcha thanks
>>571771778100% agree with you, you don't get a lot of loredump from the characters due to all of that
>>571771131Dogshit idea.
>>571771778truth nuke about the pacing
My idea for a horde shooter with unique characters (like vermintide) would be to have an extra "grunt" character that you can play as in case the character you wanted to play as is already taken. This grunt would have its own unique skill tree and automatically level up alongside any other characters you play as. As an extra bonus, if you play as the grunt then you can select one other character to gain xp for from the match. This way you always have a character you can play as at your highest level AND continue to earn xp for your favorites even if you aren't playing as them.
>>571771086>Brawler is just peak, everybody bounces off of him well. Banter is improved tenfold when he's in the party.>Maul: Behemoth, do you love the Emperor?>Brawler: Yes sah!>Maul: Do you love the Lex?>Brawler: Not sure, never met him!
>>571772123That's dumb. You're dumb.
>>571769826Said no one ever>>571770765This, customizable characters are an absolute blessing when you look at 2 of the 4 poster classes
I like custom characters because I can make all my tabletop characters
>>571772096>They hated him because he told the truthTrying to balance Ogryns who are stronger than space marines and tankier too outside the power armor was the only dogshit idea
>>571772609Goliaths also would've made more sense as some form of reject than an ogryn in prison.
>>571767340Anons are pickijng apart your ideas because some of them are questionable, but fundamentally you are 1000% correct that Ogryn needed to be way higher effort to actually be a good portrayal of a 3 meter tall ogre man
The phosphor pistol is cool but man the sights suck. Please tell me there's a mod or just some way to make it bearable
>>571772752Little piece of tape on the center of your monitor
>>571772250>>571771086>Brawler: I found a Relic once. Had a big cog on it.>Reverent: Really? Dare I ask what happened to it.>Brawler: Ate it. Was hungry.>Reverent: Urgh, I already knew, and yet I asked.I fucking love Brawler.
>>571772721They even come in ogryn sizes too
ah yes the famous and loved goliath... how come they didn't think of that?
Galvanic Rifle feels like a weird midpoint between the Vigilant autoguns and Bolt Pistol, or am I missing something?
>>571771086>>571772893I like the pathfinder for skits. He's just an extremely depersonalized ideologue retard
>>571772123Or they could just have the regular grunt character and you just use the abilities of whatever class you wanted to play.Like lets use Vermintide as a reference.Say you pic Kruber to play as, but there's already a Kruber on the team? Your character keeps the same loadout and stays as Kruber mechanically speaking, ie. same ability, etc. But they are just a random person.If I was the developer and did this I'd make it bit of a jokey character in that no matter what class gets replaced, like use VT as an example. Doesn't matter if its Kruber, Kerillian or Bardin that gets replaced, it's still the same replacement dude. And it gets played off as him being a jack of all trades, master of none.Only thing that changes is his model height or something
>>571769168It is that shit
>>571771086The male seer is def one of my favs. >oh look, stars..Love those rare moments when he gets serious too
>>571771835Only for expeditions.
I really reallyREALLYABSOFUCKINGLUTELYdo not like the Plasma Rifle
I'm so fucking done with the audio in this game man. Scum has two entire self buff abilities whose buffs are so important that you want them to always be active, but you know what that does, in a game where audio can be the difference between winning and losing? The volume is muffled so bad you can't even hear the trapper behind you as she fires.They make another class with a self buff ability that wants to be active as much as possible and what happens when it's active? That's right, the volume is fucking muffled so bad you can't hear shit, not the enemies, not your allies, not the dialogue, even the fucking music is muffled. This game is so incompetently made that I can't even hear Jesper Kyd's greatness soothe my ears while I die to its retardation.I have yet to find a mod that fixes this. Disable screen effects didn't do shit besides disable the shitty visual color filter these swede fucks love to put on everything whenever you're doing anything besides standing still and not playing the game.Why can I find two decade old games made by two nerds in their garage with more visual and audio clarity than a modern game made by """"""""""""""""""professional"""""""""""""""""" game developers?
>>571772609Ogryn is more interesting.Also goliaths would make fuck all sense in Darktide, since Goliath gangers are entirely native to Necromunda only. Same way Water Cartel in Darktide is native to Atoma Prime only, so you wouldn't see them anywhere.Meaning the entire game's setting and story would have to be reworked from the ground up to take place on Necromunda.And at that point you might as well rework everything else anyway and make all the base classes into gangers or stuff that you see on Necromunda.Veteran -> OrlockZealot -> CawdorOgryn -> GoliathPsyker -> DelaqueHive Scum -> EscherArbites -> Palanite EnforcerSkitarii ->Van Saar/some sort of unofficial tech-adept who isn't part of Admech
>>571773682Seer and Reverent have some cute dialogue since she actually takes them seriously and treats them like a person>Ask how Seer has stayed alive for so long (This is standard dialogue anytime Reverent picks someone up)>Seer says that her beloved watches over her>No quip>No "sure thing bud">She just agrees and says that she's lucky to have their beloveds patronageAnd then Seer misunderstands her fancy high gothic and goes off on a side tangent about big E not patronizing them, or at least he keeps reminding them that he doesn't patronize them
>>571774276that was the wrong tab woops
>>571774025Are you willing to elaborate? Literally my only complaint about the Plasma Gun is the absolutely terrible ammunition economy. I absolutely hate that if you get an unlucky map seed with few crates, you're going to have an absolutely terrible time.
>they actually are revolver rounds, although shaped like a fucking cigarI thought these were just fancy tech cartridges, holy fuckI guess skit ain't got a wrist to break
>>571772721>>571772609Goliaths are just boring big men Ogryns have layers, scifi ogre is inherently a far more interesting concept than just "muscle man"
>>571774089>since Goliath gangers are entirely native to Necromunda only.Oh yeah because it's totally impossible for anyone on atoma to inject glowing green growth hormones into someone to make them massive muscle monsters>What is mutantIf they get to make their own forge world, they can make their own off-brand Goliath
>>571768574>basic servoskull blitz doesn't use a grenade slot>adds a burn to the target>while burning the target takes 15% extra damage from all sources>stacks with debuff from phosphor pistol
>>571774025I haven't used it in like a year+. Didn't enjoy how stupid busted it was after the novelty of the first few games building around it. Maybe I'll give it another try
>>571774416It feels shit to useSingle mouse click feels totally unrewarding because it does no damage Charged shots feel just as bad because it builds up too much heatWhiffing shots is extremely punishing Reload takes ages (also why i really dislike the arc rifle right now)
>>571774089Our specific water cartel is native to Atoma, but im pretty sure other similar groups exist on other worldsI’d love more than anything else a Spyrer hunting rig wearing noble
>>571774030And even if there weren't those things interfering with the audio, you'll still get bugged specials that don't make sound properly. I'm at a point where I just play aurics with metal blasting. Spent yesterday listening to Darkest Hour and Invent Animate. Worked out surprisingly okay. I would encourage you to join me in no longer giving a fuck.
>>571774747>Reload takes ages (also why i really dislike the arc rifle right now)You don't reload it. You expend the mag and then swap to melee while your auto reloading perk handles that shit.
>>571774559>Ogryns have layersOnly because Darktide gave them layers, if you went by the normal concensus of what a Ogryns intelligence and behavior was, they'd all be drooling retards barely able to hold their gunsThere's a reason so many people go on about darktide ogryns being lore breaking smart.Meanwhile Goliath is a freak of nature in a body that'll explode on itself if he doesn't get his daily drug injectionsIf you're trying to tell me Fatshark couldn't make 3-4 interresting personalities with that premise then you're simply deluding yourself because you want Ogryns to be space marine tier strength in a game about humans
>>571774564No point in making an off-brand Goliath when ogryn exists right there for free without needing come up with new shit. It's just less hassle to just use ogryn.If you want Goliath ganger the only possible planet is Necromunda, nowhere else.And that's where the game has to take place. No where else.
>>571774326I'm actually surprised at how "nice" the skitarii personalities are. They seem to get along with the rejects well, and I also find it cute how the maul gets along with them too.
>>571774897>just use ogryn.They came up with new shit to make ogryn fit, what the fuck are you smoking?They bent over backwards to include them on a prison ship, where a Goliath knock off would have looked right at home.
>>571771778I've been saying the Darktide pacing is shit for a while now but people just immediately default in to that being a "skill issue" when really I just enjoy a slower pace for more banter
Tried a full on plasma build for skitarii and it felt really good on the fantasy side. The way I built it, you practically never need to switch weapons; anything you encounter can be easily handled by your servo-skull, chordclaw, or just plasma blasting it. Meanwhile you spend your time cleaving hordes, picking off specialists, whittling down crushers, and supplying all the extra toughness you generate to your team. It's a great time for feeling like the lynchpin gunner of a team. Compared to veteran, who has to divert attention to fighting off close enemies and doing the objective, you can just sort of blast away all mission.
>>571770218>>571770442i just check the shop every hour for good dump stat guns, i already have like 4 melees and like 8 guns with perfect dump stats on skit
>>571774884>if you went by the normal concensus of what a Ogryns intelligence and behavior was, they'd all be drooling retards barely able to hold their gunsOnly if you're a secondary redditor who gets his lore from memes.Darktide ogryns are perfect and they are canon and the new normal for 40k as a whole since anything that happens in Darktide has to go through GW and their approval first.GW gave the green light to Darktide ogryns, they are canon and accurate.
I bet Heresy difficulty Karnak Twins stage has a 15% success rate. Just play the mission on Malice you bitches. If your level 30 Arbites can barely handle it, your level 21 Skitarii can't for sure.
man i really hope there actually is a sc2 coop shooter in the works
>>571775367>medskull for twinsHadn't thought of that, that is where the missions always goes tits up when people get overwhelmed by a twin and a mauler sneaks up on them. Being left trying to kite the twins, mixed horde, and pick up teammates is always cancer.
so does the crucian roulette work with the perk that reloads your weapons for you?
>>571775175You aren't wrong about the pace. Power scaling turned Aurics into a sprint to the end because they're so easy now, and Fatshark kind of put themselves into a corner by doing that. Any change to try to alleviate that that doesn't involve adding a difficulty above Auric (inb4 "that's Havoc", you know what I fucking mean) is going to be a nerf in some way, and thus dissatisfy a lot of players. We really do just need another difficulty level. Hell, I'd take Auric scaling but just with extra spawns. Put twice the enemies on the map and more monstrosities, and the game would be fun as fuck again. Events are the only times Auric is ever challenging, and it's only some of the events that achieve that.
>>571775314>GW changing lore to fit PRODUCTMore news at elevenGoliath would have been way smoother to fit in and wouldn't have any of the game balance issues that plague Ogryn, since they'd be human sized, able to use a bunch of human guns and would still be retardo strong and huge compared to every other rejectIt is a fundamentally flawed idea to try and balance Ogryns in a game meant for the human fantasy of 40kOgryns may be abhumans in name, but they're ogres who can pummel a space marine into dirt and drag tanks aroundAnd yet in Darktide they can't even shove a half rotten dog off of themselvesThat's dumbAnd you're dumb for liking the shitty compromise we got
Doubleclick to not play the game is pretty lame actually
>>571775458I'm about to get back into SC2 itself, I didn't know they were actively patching the game anymore. Zerg got a freaking 10% larva spawn rate increase. As far as that shooter, I heard a rumor it's like Helldivers but with loot pickup/extraction
need a tech-shield weapon for my skitarii so i can mark targets for my servo skull to kill while i do fuck all in the corner
>>571775146>They came up with new shit to make ogryn fitShit like kickback and rumbler?Wow, the developers came up with new cool weapons for ogryns to use in all of 40k? The Horror.>They bent over backwards to include them on a prison shipThey didn't. Imperium doesn't care.Ogryn only needs to piss off the wrong asshole person who will just send them onto a prison ship out of fucking spite because they are an asshole with an axe to grind. It's a grimdark universe where every bureocrat is a dickhead pencil pusher faggot and every police man is just itching for little excuse to beat the fuck out of you for fun. Sometimes they don't even bother with the excuse and just beat you anyway out of sadism.Ogryns are abhumans, which are regularly oppressed and treated like 2nd class citizens, finding one in a prison vessel is not at all far fetched.
>>571775876Just slide and dodge around with the combat blade
>>571775776>I'm about to get back into SC2 itself, I didn't know they were actively patching the game anymoreyeah most of the patches post launch were pretty small, this most recent one has been the biggest by a long shot of the past several years. 8 workers and warpgate tech is wild>like Helldivers but with loot pickup/extractionhaven't played helldivers but hopefully this one'll be good. shame it's not fps like darktide though. is this game actually 100% confirmed though? or just rumours still
>>571775876Here ya go
>>571776023im genuinely actually already doing that desu. i even put +2 stamina and +15% block efficiency for the perks on top of my +9 stamina, +45% sprint efficiency, +36% stamina regen, and +45% block efficiency from the curios
now that the dust has settled, how's skitarii
>all classes have names for skibidi>skibidi doesn't have names for other classesI don't know if it's swedish quality or it's on purpose since they still have unique cheers for classes, maybe they just don't see a difference between zealot and psyker
Is anyone else having an issue where the upper and lower body cosmetics arent saving on the skitty? I keep having to re-equip them every time I reboot the game
>>571775993Literally nothing you said makes more sense than just having Goliaths insteadJust because you personally like Ogryn doesn't mean that they're a better fit for Darktide
>>571776245Yeah the updating part of cosmetics is fucked. I had to equip one piece at a time, backing out of the menu and waiting for the model to change, then moving onto the next part.
>>571776245I have it when I do personality change
>>571776178extremely good, people just haven't picked up on how to build him yetpro tip: it's not the fun and cool looking weapons and abilities, it's the lame and gay ones
>>571776240mechanicus as a whole really doesn't give a single shit about regular humans. there are entire subfactions within it that have their own separate, radical beliefs about the omnissiah and the emperor and the imperial creed
>>571776163>+2 stamina>not +3I got lucky and one was in the regular store once I hit 30
>falchion on skittari
>>571776597cant put +3 stamina on combat knife anon. limited to just +2. i already paid 40k melkbux for my triple +3 stamina curios
>>571773857nah I'm good then
>>571776694Oh I thought you were talking curios my bad>40k
I'm having trouble figuring out how to slot skitty into a havoc comp. The only unique thing it brings to the table is the servo skull. Which, to be fair, is pretty useful. But besides that its just kind of an alright-ish all-rounder. Maybe it could take a vet or zealot slot I guess.
I wish I had money to buy skitarii
>>571776441I'm assuming you're talking about electric build with Arc Maul (and Arc Gun, but that's one of the cool weapons). Post your talents if so, please. I've been meaning to try it out. Had this planned out, but it's clearly a preliminary WIP
>>571776491sure but i think you can do some light lore bending for fun interactions and keep up the norm that other classes have. alpha primus were made intentionally to give them more personality than souless automatons, so a couple of nicknames wouldn't be much of a stretch. call scum pre-servitors or something
>>571774680>wow one shotgunner out of 400 enemies on screen takes 15% extra damage that's so much better than actually killing things with arc nades
>>571775719GW didn't really change ogryns.They always simple minded, not drooling retards like reddit memes likes to depict them.They very often in stories and books spoke just fine and acted fine.You're surprised that the Imperium that views all abhumans as stupid, lesser, unpure and basically hates them and only keep them around because they are useful. You're surprised the Imperial officials would lie and exaggerate the stupidity or savagery of ogryns to push an agenda?This is the very same Imperium where their bureocrats are trying their hardest to get squats, specifically the Leagues of Votann squats, formally recognized as Xenos and revoke their abhuman status.And they are only doing this so they can more easily justify genociding them.
>>571775719A named psyker can pop either one's head.A named guardsman can pop either one's head.We are named characters. Heroes."But the number says 5 instead of 4" is 3-head retard bullshit. Shut up.
>>571776895They also bring constant passive toughness regeneration to keep your team safe from gunners if you build them for itAlso the transfer toughness thing also works with psyker bubble, so if the skit is standing inside at full toughmess, everyone else gets extra benefits from the bubble even if they aren't inside
>>571776401>than just having Goliaths insteadAnon, Goliaths are a house/gang on Necromunda. Why would there be a bunch of them over on Atoma? It makes much more sense to have a steady supply of ogboys locked up, who can be found in IG regiments all over the universe and not just on one fucking planet
>>571776961>arc rifle without gunsmitheugh
>>571776401It does make perfect sense.Just because you personally like Goliaths doesn't mean that they're a better fit for Darktide.You want Goliaths? Go play Necromunda.
>>571777185Gunsmith is expensive
going to try this out with blades and the garand. i had to make quite a few concessions but to me seems like the only good way to get a decent hybrid. i thought about swapping out capacitor reclaimation loop and shockline breach protocol in the top part of the tree for superior defense engrams and hybrid combat covenant
>>571776178suffers from having only one fun ability and 0 fun blitzes
>>571776178it's a jack of all trades so not very interesting
>>571776961should grab arc grenades, theyre really good
>>571775748I look like this>>571776491Technically true but they definitely would have their own lingo and shit regardless, and like you say, they aren’t a monolith, some of them definitely care about their fellow man and regularly try to convert others
>>571777101You still fail to address my main issue which is power scalingOgryns are supposed to be a "big guy unit" which is my favorite in all of the various GW specialist gamesThe Ogryn in darktide cannot be a "big guy unit" because it would mean making him significantly more powerful than every other class at which point why play anything but Ogryn if given the choice? You'd have to limit it to one per team and then the Ogryn queue would be nine hours long, because no one wants to play cheerleader for the big guy who solo's the entire level just through sheer stats.I only pointed out the lore because it's a weak argument to say "GW approved it" because GW approved female custodes and expected everyone to swallow like good goyim.Their approval means nothing to me.
I need to play hunter because he switches to binharic the most
>>571777481That's where the free two points were initially, but I wasn't overly impressed with them when I used them in the Meat Grinder. I'll need to try them out in an actual Auric later. Haven't used 'em in a game since Heresy
>>571776079>just rumours stillRhykker the Diablo youtuber I think confirmed it simply by mentioning it a few times. He's pretty in with those devs and said he expects to see it this Blizzcon
>>571774884No they had layers to begin with. Even the absolute retard depiction, while not suitable for an fps l4d type game, is really good and far more interesting than>rahhh I am the hulk!
>>571776895It could be a good ranged class if they gave it an infantry lasgun (aimbot fixes all lasgun issues and lasgun fixes ammo issues) and that's why they didn't give it to skitarii, they don't want it to be good.This is a social experiment, they wanted to see if people will buy a class that's weak. That's why they also released all its weapons with gimped blessings.
Skitarii looks kind of shit ngl. I'm assuming Fatshark were too gay and retarded to add an omnissian axe instead of another maul.
>>571776240>I don't know if it's swedish qualityIt's this. They intentionally dropped the voice actor count by 2 as well so they wouldn't need to pay for them.
>>571777101Ogryns did manage to somehow survive and thrive in cavemen colonies despite being mostly inbred, mutated convicts. Gaydubya can also just handwave it with the Great Rift giving them a dozen IQ points from warp shenanigans.
>>571777540>because GW approved female custodes and expected everyone to swallow like good goyimOh, you're one of those drooling retards. Female custards existed in the OG custodes lore. Then they slightly retconned that for a short period of time when they wrote more custodian lore and it only featured males. The span of time that "male only" custodes was a thing is much more brief than the existence of female custards, you dumb fucking chud. Do some research
sometimes my electro fart doesnt even work
>>571777735They're too gay and retarded to make a proper Techpriest class, so no Omnissian axe for basic bitch Shitarii.
>>571777616GOD i hope this doesn't end up being dailies-gook-gacha-mmo-battlepass slop, but knowing blizzard...i'm a lot more fond of 40k now than when i started playing darktide, but i still love the sc2 universe way more
>>571777101> where their bureocrats are trying their hardest to get squats, specifically the Leagues of Votann squats, formally recognized as Xenos and revoke their abhuman status.It’s specifically the AdMech doing this for the most part, and they’re really only doing it because they believe they’re committing tech heresy >>571777149> A named guardsman can pop either one's head.That depends on what weapon they have
>helmet unlocks are locked behind this retarded penancelmao
I love doing train because I'm always the only one with a brain and mission turns into me carrying them screaming and kicking to the end
>>571777540female custodes literally don't not make sense. arcane genetic alchemy is an infinitely superior process to geneseeds and two dozen extra cybernetic organs. both the pre- and post-unification imperium already militarized women, there's literally no reason to artificially halve your pool of potential custodes. female space marines is completely retarded, however. i will never disagree with that take
>>571778169grindy and buggy af
>>571777926>Female custards existed in the OG custodes lore.If you pretend that female custodes was anything other than appealing to Amazons retarded diversity requirements then you are either being disingenuous or actually don't know shit about it.Either way you're still avoiding the obvious question because you don't want to admit that Including ogryn was fundamentally a mistake from a game balance perspective if you want to respect the lore.GW is a company first and they've always been, I've been around the franchise long enough to accept that fact but apparently you're choosing to stan for them which is a weird hill to die on unless you're on their payroll.
>>571776895>>571777680WHY DOES THIS WORTHLESS FUCKING NIGGER CLASS HAVE GIMPED BLESSINGS
>>571778151The Votann (AI constructs) are unironically tech-heresy by Mechanicus dogma, but the Admech are also jealous and want to steal their tech, which is funnily enough the reason why the Votann even showed up for like 2-3 story missions in Mechanicus 2 before the Admech betrays them after a brief alliance.
>mfw some animal bringing home a crate
>>571777795They can do that because they’re hyper durable hyper strong giants who can eat damn near anything and derive some form of sustenance from them. They’re not inbred though.
What blessings are we using on our trannyblades?
>>571778496shred and ignore hit mass on crit
This shit is so ass
>>571778546yup
>>571777540Ogryns are the big guy unit and they should be. They can buff the weapon damage by 2x and it'll be fine.People constantly over blow ogryns strength and how they are too OP when none of it matters even in the lore.All powerlevels are arbitrary and whoever wons has nothing to do with real logic, but instead it's entirely based on who the author wanted to win and wanted to look cool. That's it.If you really want to pull the "but muh lore" excuse then all our characers should be dying, vomiting, shitting our entire ass, when he get within 100 meters of a Beast of Nurgle. But we don't because that's not cool or fun.The whole powerscaling argument is just as moot because it's just another type of lore argument which doesn't matter like you admit.>I only pointed out the lore because it's a weak argument to say "GW approved it" because GW approved female custodes and expected everyone to swallow like good goyim.>Their approval means nothing to me.And your approval means nothing to me.Goliaths don't fit Darktide. Ogryns were the better, more interesting, cooler choice to use.
>>571778496Riposte and Precognition ofc
>>571777481skit should have 0 blitz investment
>>571778372Nigger you stoopid, I said to go do some research and you're still here running your mouth. Goliath is an idiotic idea. Why would this one inquisitor have enough Necromunda gangers of one specific locked up to use as troops?Ogryn's power scale has been downplayed in various games since the dawn of time. A starting ogryn character in OW is a shadow of what an ogboy should be, because of leveling and game balance. But you wouldn't know that since you're a wargamelet babby who doesn't dig into the universe properly yet still runs his mouth as if he knows shit and thinks that female custards were a retcon
Shame Phospex weaponry is unobtanium, they look somewhat better than the giant mug of the Phospor pistol.
>poster trying to cry about muh poor abhumans in the imperium starts calling people chuds
>>571777050Why are you being deliberately retarded? Order it to attack bosses, crushers, or maulers that you want to do more damage against. Having the debuff from the skull and your phosphor pistol lets the scum rocket delete bosses, and makes anything you take out in melee much easier to handle.
>>571778765>They can buff the weapon damage by 2x and it'll be fineNo it wouldn't be fine and you pretending otherwise is disingenuous, even fatshark is better at balancing their own shit game than you if you unironically think this.>Goliath's dont fit darktideThey're quite literally just hive scum on roidsThere are plenty of other roid monsters in the galaxy, I just use Goliath as an example because it's easier to get my point across that way.You don't need Ogryn to have a big strong guyThe admonition makes muties by injecting fluids ominously similar to what Goliaths take into people.
>>571778765> But we don't because that's not cool or fun.More accurately, we don’t because irs literally canon that the Emperor has our back, which is like kryptonite to Chaos, which has precedent and has already happened everal times in the lord as well.
>>571777926So post the proof. Because GW had to make sweeping changes to the Custodes lore so they were no longer referred to as Sons.
Honestly I think buying Skitarii could send a psionic wave through your monitor that makes you shit your pants and puke and it would still be a less insulting purchase than Arbites wasI hope those nigger swedes feel bad about sharting out a boring fucking DLC class with boring weapons and a boring kit but I doubt they have enough dignity to feel shame
>>571778936>They MUST BE literal Goliaths from Necromunda>Thing that happens in one hive world can't possibly happen on another hive worldThat the last (you) that (you) are getting retard kun
>>571779036Hive scum should've had a roided up body option but that's really the extent of what they should've done with the goliath concept
>>571778969I don't think Grendyl wants to make Atoma even more inhabitable than it already is with handheld warcrime machines.
>>571779492yeah. investing any more thought or effort into ganger would be so dumb.
protip for speedrun trannies and assorted griefers>tranny sword (cleave mode) charge attacks makes you faster than knives>you can chain chordclaw strike at the end of each charge attack to generate a lot of velocity
>>571779398I said to do your own research. Mouthbreathers who unironically spam Space King gifs in the comments of female custards release on GW's social media are not worth my time>>571779457Ogryn is more iconic and marketable than some literally who roided ganger that isn't even a Goliath. If they did that, there'd be conversations just like this about "why didn't they just have ogryns instead?"
How do I feel about the shield guys
>>571779036>No it wouldn't be fineNo, it would be.Arbites already do like double the damage ogryn does while also being being more defensive thanks to True Grit. Arbites can legit tank more damage than ogryn can just investing in full health curio set up.And on top of this arbites are entirely immune to mutants and poxhounds, while they can also use the dog offensively by ordering it to kill gunners, snipers and other specials.And even without ordering the dog around, it basically functions as a 5th team member that is entirely immortal and untargetable by enemies and does more damage on average than the average player.Buffing ogryn's damage by 2x is not going to break the game. It's a myth.>b-but roidsDoesn't matter. Goliaths are exclusive to Necromunda, you will only ever get them in Necromunda and nowhere else.Ogryn fits Darktide better because ogryns are present everywhere within the Imperium.
>>571779954>D-do your own research!So it doesn't exist. Thanks for playing.
>>571780007I have no idea how they meant for us to deal with these guys. >Head is super tanky>Body is shieldedWhat do?
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>>571780213>>571779954>>571777926All pre-2024 official sources such as the codexes, Black Library novels, and rulebooks consistently described the Adeptus Custodes using exclusively male language and implications. There are no named female Custodes, no female pronouns, no descriptions of female recruits or physiology, and no depictions in any artwork or stories. They did not exist prior to 2024, so suck a fucking lemon.
>>571780027>Arbites already do like double the damage ogryn doesEverything after this point is pure cope and rage, you don't even play the game
>>571779415everytime someone on here starts talking about how "boring" something is, it makes me feel better about having to grow up as a kid in the 90s. in rural iowa,with no cable tv, there was literally less than jackshit to do. id go outside and start throwing rocks at corn and then later get the shit beat out of me for it because i wrecked our neighbor's combine harvesteranyway arbitrator isnt even actually boring, it's just simple. they're not the same thing even if they might be correlated. now if youve played it for a couple hundred hours i could see it getting old maybe
>>571779954>Ogryn is more iconic and marketable than some literally who roided ganger that isn't even a Goliath. If they did that, there'd be conversations just like this about "why didn't they just have ogryns instead?"Actual Truth Nuke. Ogryn is 100% more marketable and more iconic to the setting than making some legally distinct OC Donut Steele retard roid rager.It's hilarious people complain that Darktide isn't "40k enough", and how it's just Fatshark OCs, but then fucking suggest removing one of the few ACTUALLY 100% 40k things from the game and replace it some an actual "Literally who?" tier faggot that nobody would care about.It's like people saying the devs should delete psyker from the game and then replace it with some other weird mind power using retard called psi-kinetist.
>>571780545Ironic.
>>571780672>start throwing rocks at cornlook at you all special and shitwe threw rocks at each otherand also get beat the fuck up for it[/spoiiler]
>>571780027>Arbites already do like double the damage ogryn doesActual fucking retard
>>571780007comically overtuned and in the most boring way possible
>>571780027>Arbites already do like double the damage ogryn doesit's terminal i'm afraid
I was wondering what upset the Chinese this time so I ran the first review through google translate and it's pretty funny>Using an algorithm sanctified by Omnisea's blessing, this unit predicts and seeks out a unit named Fatshark that will engage in blasphemous weakening of Blessed Guardian units over the next few dozen cycles. It is proposed that Fatshark and its relatives be remodeled into Atonement Servant units to atone for the offense against Omnisea, but they are not worthy of such benevolence.
>>571780687People say that in response to idiot ogryn players demanding that fatshark buff their class to high heavens so that it's twice as strong as every other classThe 40k setting has plenty of examples of roided up retards who can lug heavy weapons around, including vat grown ones.Which was the excuse for no female OgrynsLiterally just make them big strong roided up vat grown humans, and no one will get their panties in a twist about "Ogryn being too weak, they should be able to just demolish everything in a single hit!" which is retarded game balance.If you take the bully club and doubled its DPS no one would run anything but 3-4 ogryns, depending on whether or not you want the utility of piss toughness or a bubble
>>571780180Their shield is breakable but it takes fucking forever with melee. I think you're just supposed to get behind them and shoot them or apply debuffs and DoTs. Maybe shit like brittleness has a huge effect on them like with how Captains take less damage from ranged and more from melee?Very gay unit nonetheless.
>>571777608it clears elites very well
>>571781492What are they complaining about? Skitters being shit or the new shield mobs?
>>571781602They are easy to stun with Hammerblow and work around their shield but they still take too many hits to kill because they are fucking damage sponges even without a shield.
>>571781654Weak skittle weapons, skittles running around with power falchions because mechanicus weapons are memes, and gimped blessings.Pretty on point I'd say.
>>571780007Absurdly bad design. One of Fatshark's most retarded moments in recent memory
hunter and exterminator are cutiesI can't decide
I just realized with cleave claw you still get the single target attack if you hold the button downBleed claw utterly mogged
>>571781901i cant believe the same guy voices ogryn, psyker, and now skitarii lmao
>>571780510Prior to 1987 Custodes weren't a thing. I can play this game too.
>>571781512Noticed you conveniently missed a bunch of posts against your imbecilic arguments, just take the L atp>If you take the bully club and doubled its DPS no one would run anything but 3-4 ogrynsSimply not true. Enemies already melt to the players, nobody is going to care about a DPS spike like that. Plenty of people are still going to want to do space magic/cop/shootman/robot boy things
>>571782063>making something up because it sounds cool is the same as retconning what you've already done for real-world political reasonsFuck off
>>571781782It's always funny that they're consistently surviving over the sea of crusher maulers and ragers.
>aggro a reaper and pop the bubble, staying still>finish mission>penance progress: 74 out of 1500guess I'm in this for the long haul...
>>571782063It's not worth the energy, people who are mad about femstodes are just making a mountain out of a mole hill and it's exhausting>oh noes my power armoured dudes covered in so much ceramite you can't see the shape of their bodies now have long hair and vajayjays!? waaaaaaaahhhh
man this will take a few days
>>571782063>Uh Lord of the Rings didn't exist at one point so it's okay to put a BMW despite establishing over and over this is a medieval fantasy worldThis is you, you dumb fuck.
>carrying team of mentally deficient new players who have somehow found expeditions before they even got to level 30>pick all of their dropped shit and revive all of them twice>game crashes as a packmaster spawns in>I already know it's over for them>game finally boots up>no option to reconnect
Dude, the ogryn should've been a space wolf instead! *Hooowls* with a huge beard! And viking side shave! And a celtic facial tattoo! And dualwielding axesdude that's what the ogryn should've been
>>571782425That's a terrible analogy and you know it, just admit you're shitposting at this stage
>they finally ported BLACK BASTARDS into darktide
i love abusing the chordclaw bug
>>571782617They're even worse because they don't count as elites for the purpose of skills.
>>571782305custodes dont wear ceramite
>>571782646what bug?
>>571782605It's the exact same premise you just raised>X didn't used to exist>So therefore it's okay to retcon everything that was writtenThe fact that you typed this and then apparently forgot your own shitfuck logic is peak window licker.
>>571782708hold chordclaw > sprint > release (costs no charge)
If powerDI is broken how is everyone using the scoreboard now?
>>571782425he's just messing with you at this point, not worth replying to bud. I mean he literally is trying to gotcha you with "but originally the setting didn't exist hehehehehe" when you tell him the original depiction changed it's an absurd retard argument and you will never ever get anywhere talking to these people. but you and me both know you won overall because you can drink your tapwater and he'll get diarrhea if he does
>>571782695Sue me, dweeb
>>571782646i love abusing you
>>571782774keep in mind it doesn't trigger "on ability activation" talents if it doesn't spend a charge
>>571782068>nobody is going to care about a DPS spikeWell if nobody is going to care, then you won't mind not getting a buff either then.
>>571782605>claiming others are shitposting
>>571778978it’s funny how we go months without posts like that and then we get an update and they return. literal tourism.
>>571781873>skittles running around with power falchions because mechanicus weapons are memesIt feels good on skittles. If transblades attacked faster in cleave mode they'd feel better, like tac axe speed.
>>571782448Unironically yes
>>571782771Femstodes is much more nuanced than "didn't used to exist". But yes tell me how adding a modern day automobile to a fantasy universe is the same thing as adding female supersoldiers to a world full of crazy scifi bullshit
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>>571782646>>571782774>>571782892the zealot stealth bug all over again>>571783039it attacks pretty fast with uncapped arrestor and servo sinew surge with 8 stacks of flensing
>>571783191Post it, the one about the buttholes
>>571782695>>571782448>>571782425>>571782187>>571782793Got his ass here can’t lie
>>571783191>Timber wolfSpotted the clannerWhy is every wolf faction insufferable regardless of setting?
>need to stand absolutely still, in the open to get ranged enemies to focus>its a "3 guys on my fucking nuts to make sure no enemy shoots at me"its such a stupid, useless fucking blitz challenge
>>571782895I'm not the one who started this argument so I don't care. I just think you're full of shit thinking that a not!Goliath is more suitable, and you've shown you have brain worms by caring way too much about custodes (already a dumb army that should not exist) having women in their ranks
>>571783468origin of alpha male bullshit
VT2 had a weapon update? Did any of those weapons become the best for any career?
Everyones just splitting up in the havocs what the fuck is happening. even true shitters are just behaving like it's an auric and dying
>>571783507Gotta love the flip flop>GW said that it's ok therefor it is the law>GW said this other thing that's retarded and should never have existed
>>571783191>Timber WolfTook me way too long to find this in my folder. One day I'll organize my 4chan images. Surely>>571783468I like Timbies. Fun 80KPH+JJ lasvom vehicle. Or 90something KPH with HAG60.
>>571783647Skits broke their cheatmods and now they can't function
>>571783678I never said any of that, you're shoving words in my mouth at this point. Custodes are just a wish fulfilment army played by spergs anyway. Why would care that GW did the smart business thing of adding more wish fulfilment? It doesn't break the lore since custies don't use geneseed, big whoop. I'll just continue to ignore the golden boys (and girls)
>>571783753>>571783468all yall chuckle fucks remind me is how retarded Arrowhead is for designing a robot that blew itself up because>the rockets, aimed at the screen, hit the barrels, and thus the walker model, of the walker in helldivers 2
>the red borg bois have shitty low ammo count What's the point of using your ranged weapon?
>>571782684>see a fresh born skissy struggling with a squad of shieldfucks>I don't feel like walking all that way to wipe his ass>fire my gun at the shieldfucks>mfw the fuckers block ranged shots from all angles including from behind
>>571783936Oh fuck, don't remind me. I was so stoked to be getting a mech in HD2 only for that clusterfuck to happen.
FULL MOON
>>571783917>Putting words in other peoples mouthsThat's rich coming from you
>>571784201>n-no uOkay shitposter-kun
>>571783191>>571784176https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XALVTzMOeQ
Howl with me brothers!AWOOOOOOOOO~
Phosphor pistol just feels like a shittier revolver/voltaic rifle.You literally cannot feel the debuff at all.
>>571784340I love reading comments sometimes
>>571784480
Thoughts
>icon to indicate no grenade>still uses the skitty shield like 30 times throughout the missionI wonder if it was just cheats or a new exploit
>>571784495I really like how hard Fatshark tries to push low increments of Brittleness, as though we're supposed to fucking care or go out of our way to collect several sources of it just so that it actually begins to matter
>>571784340>>571783753>>571783468>>571783191Am I missing some context here? It feels like this should be funnier
Okay I think I'm gonna take a break until they do something about these small shield dudes, they are fucking everywhere and breaks the flow of combat so much
>>571784809Right they think they're making an MMO.
Level 21 on me skibidi now and I think I just don't care for the class, I'm boooooorrrreeeeddd
>>571784818
>>571784480Trannies never play Slan because they know it is a mockery of their existence.
>>571784764You don't need the one point in servo skull. Just press G and mark the boss whenever there is one. The only reason to put the point into servo skull is if you're using an auto tag mod and don't mind being a spamming dickhead to the rest of your team, or you're carrying a plasma and want to grab noosphere to deal with small targets.
Cleave Efficiency is the dump stat for Transonic Blades right
>>571784850Minimum 30 days for them to make any minor changes to them, if anything is even done at all. Reminder that the game director has explicitly stated that players don't know what they want and that he knows better what is good for the game :)
>>571784818You linked posts with very different things going on. Timber Wolf is a mech in Battletech, niche reference. SW as a chapter are really cringe, GW made some goofy ass decisions in their designs, and overall it attracted some of the worst 40K players. The werewolf slam poetry is more cringe content.
>>571783191Is opening a GW store/“gaming community” store worth it? It sounds like the owners make a lot of bank off of people. Maybe I should be the first to open one where I live.
>>571784994Wizards are so gay for this ban
>>571785259most gaming stores are a bad month or two away from closing up shop.
happy for the admech fans and roleplaying faggots, but skbidi is really boring, going to stick to greatsword psyker
I genuinely have no idea what this penance is asking me to do.Redline capacitors doesn't generate ability charges, does it mean generate redline stacks?Does it mean gaining an ability charge while redline is active?
>Next three to four months will be skitty balance patches and fixing the shield enemies>Probably some buffs for pack master since he's a fucking joke>Then the hype cycle for the next class starts>They'll probably add the meltagun and give it to vet/zealot with the next class>And then they'll introduce meltagunners who are even worse than plasmagunners were on release
>>571785095The goycattle are out in force to try and prevent any changes being done to them so yeah I don't expect to see anything
Damn I might hate these shield guys more than the plasma fags on release, just actively unfun to engage in the main area of the game
>>571785394While you have the keystone, get a charge. If you want to speedrun it, just pick chordclaw and do mortis, get lucky and get the "gain ability charge on chordclaw kill" and just spam chordclaw into crowds, I think I went from like 150 to 500 in one game doing that. Unfortunately no such easy way to get the Malfunction penance.
>>571785493Why are people like this, honestly.Like MAYBE I could understand enjoying how comically retarded plasma gunners were but these guys? They don't do anything, they just sit there and take forever to die for no reason.
>>571785548I can think of a lot of clutches that i wouod 100% have failed if the shield fags had existed back then
>>571784934I'm sure in their heads they're going, "We can't give players large sources of Brittleness because what if they coordinated and everybody ran it! That'd be terrible."Never mind that:>That would require people to actually coordinate their builds (lmao outside of Havoc, and even in Havoc, it's still a "lol")>The TTK isn't long enough for building these stacking debuffs slowly to actually be worth going out of your way to do most of the time, and this should be quite obvious to them>They could simply hard cap Brittleness or total armor defeat % (Brittle+Rending) to a certain amountSometimes I wonder if the people who knew what they were doing are just long gone, or if Fatshark originally developed some of the best PVE combat I've ever played entirely by fucking accident.
>>571784998Kek true>>571784994>this was already over a decade agoJesus
Does the Advanced Combat Doctrine lock on to weakspots while active?
>>571785767In theory yes in practice maybe because swedish coding.
>>571785259>It sounds like the owners make a lot of bank off of peopleNo? It's an expensive hobby, and yes there are huge nerds who spend a lot but I imagine most stores operate with tight margins to stay competitive. I've been to plenty of stores with spiked prices and they're empty, hobbyists will just shop elsewhere. I've also seen stores just empty because they're in a location with clearly not many tabletop nerds around. It's probably better in this day and age but it's always a gamble. Then there's the people. You're running a daycare for smelly manchildren, or actual screaming children. My FLGS has a library of board games to rent out, but then they have to keep on top of people destroying the games/losing pieces and shit like that.
>>571785259Opening your own GW store is literally a pyramid scheme trapIt's a way for GW to see if there's enough people buying their plastic crack in a region and if you actually manage to run a successful business, they'll open up an Official GW store next door and delay your shipments of new miniatures by 1-2 months to ensure everyone goes to their store to buy itI've unfortunately seen it happen more than once
>>571785889That sounds like something that should be illegal
>some retard replying to all the vanguard threads to say that they're fine and people just need to get good at the game>look inside>it's a purgatus staff psyker
>>571785672you know this is the common problem>for every brittleness option>there are 4 players that might have an instagib melee, ranged, or blitz option to nullify this>all brittleness takes time to build>game is balanced around fast TTKsjust a complete mismatch in desired function and design
>>571785672>entirely by fucking accident.Most people stumble their way into greatness without knowing how they got there.
>>571786116yup
>>571785493I wouldn't mind the shields if they also didn't have retarded resistances and almost as much health as a crusher.
man, femcadian has a lot of good lines with the skitarii
Do the raw damage perks on inferno staff affect the soulblaze and shit or are they worthless?
should i just be doing campaign missions for darktide or can i just do random ones
>>571785629>>571786205letting the dust settle first and not overreacting isn't a bad anglenotice he even says dont nerf it YET, leave open the door but don't kneejerk react
>>571786205>hit shield enemy from behind>*blue hitmarker*Fuck shield enemies in Darktide
Did they finally fix the ripper gun stability bug? I swear the thing feels less wobbly than before.
>>571785984They obfuscate it by saying "Unless you buy X amount of miniatures each month, you simply aren't a big enough distributor for us to give priority shipments"One store coughed up the dough to buy the obscene amounts of plastic crack GW demanded, so they got to keep getting new releases "almost" on timeShipping from Britain is an arcane science you see and things just get delayed by several weeks accidentallyConsistentlyAnd then they blame it on the shipping and not themselves who specifically chose the shittier, slower shipping company to screw over their own competitionThey have a monopoly on their particular brand of plastic crack
>reverant skitarii talking about all the marvels and beauty of tertium>my hive scum telling her he'll show her all the good spotsshe is too cute
I can't fucking see the shitty shield turds in the roiling mass of a horde.
>>571786314I found doing the campaign once through was a nice consistent progression of maps and difficulty escalation, but you're only losing out on some cutscenes and filler story if you skip it and just do random missions
>>571786571Wow, you can't see the black blob in the sea of dark blobs? Sounds like a fucking skill issue, m80. Darktide has wonderful visual clarity. Always has. Far better than VT2's
>>571785449WRONG, they will add aeldari, genestealers, 3 new maps, and a csm boss fight TOMORROW
>Heightmaxxed skitty>Just shoot the shieldguy in the head and you don't have to deal with the retarded shield mechanicIt's that easy, manlets get what they deserve
im having skitarii fatigue already..
i... dont understand the arc maul. How do you use this blasted thing? if the activations are doing anything, I can't tell. Is it just a debuff of some kind?
>new to the game in general>was having fun in auric a few days ago>now the diff is borderline unplayable because it's a trillions skibidi with 0 damage trying to get carried
What was the time skip for Skitarii? How long has this fucking war been going?>hadron gets notice of an alpha primus skitarii factory>she makes some>they all go off and perform legendary deeds as seen by the skitarii backgrounds>then they come back to the warband wearing their forgeworld driphow fucking long was hadron gone
>>571786687
>>571786850It has charges that accumulate over time.
>>571786850Did you suck your thumb and drool through the tutorial they made you do?
>>571786905We don't know and none of it matters.
>>571786905I interpreted the backgrounds as being before coming to tertium
>>571786019I still don’t know what this image is supposed to mean
>>571786850First activated hit electrifies, hitting an electrified target spawns an arc. An arc impacting a target will do damage and electrify it. If the target is already electrified, he too spawns an arc.
>>571786850>build up charges>turn vibrator on>electrocute a crowd with the block zap>hit them to make them explode
>>571786905y'all niggas reading this dogshit story?
>>571787052Never watched Inglorious Bastards?
>>571787083Darktide has a story?
>>571786905The "legendary deeds" are why your skitty got upgraded to alpha primus statusYou're fresh off the alpha prmis assembly line and used to be just a mindslave skittle before Hadron injected some sass into you
>>571786852if you don't have propensity for carrying the fuck are you doing in auric? carrying is the most exhilirating part of the game too
>>571787228You WILL carry me in auric and you'll like it! I am Cain, you are my Jurgen
do you guys think that a skitarius might get paid decently?
>>571786852If you can't solo auric then you were getting carried yourself
>>571786850Normal hits charge up your bar and electrocute enemies, then you use special action to enable powered up attacks, the powered up attacks send electric arcs between electrocuted enemies.
>>571787052It's shorthand to describe someone or something that is merely pretending to know or be a part of "the thing." That scene from the movie is where the guy holding up his fingers is outed as an impostor
After getting to level 60 on the skitty and moving back to play the arbites for a bit it's a night and day difference in how easy the latter is.
>have so far seen precisely 1 dude who paid to put down his hoodishygddt
>>571787489
>>571787489niggas pay real money to show off their norwood
>>571787489Now you've seen two
>>571787489I would but the absolute retards at Fatshark forgot the Branx option.
>hivescum was the least liked class release idea>Most fun to play>skibidititoliet robots are the most hyped class release idea>plays like pure shitdiabetes shark moment
anyone have that webm of rannick breaking it down?
>>571787789
>>571787789This one?
>>571787736>ForgotI bet they couldn't figure out how to add 4 helmets to the store bundle and had to settle for just skipping one forge world on each helmet type
>>571787874There have been 4-part bundles before.
>>571787228>>571787393Im still new, but I feel like Im pulling weight atleastI guess my main gripe is that 3x skit every game is kinda boring
I played two games as my Arbites and she didn't have a single banter line for the Skitarii, even though the other three members were all Skitarii. Is this a bug or did they really not bother to get the FemBites actresses back in the booth?
>>571787874LMAO
>>571787708>servo skull carrying the receipt for how much goybux he spent on the slop shop
>>571787942Lost technologyTencent didn't return their emailsPick your poison since they're all just color swaps
>>571787838love>>571787858kek fukken saved
>>571787970There is a noticable dearth of skitarii conversation lines in all regards
>just want to have fun with the claw>have to keep running this gay ass fucking electrofart for the malfunction penanceOH MY GOOOOOOOOOD
>>571785259Yes you should. Especially since all your employees will look like this.
>>571788128I've mostly ignored the penances and content to just keep using the default robes
>>571787970I had a vet say "You're scaring me witch" with no psyker in the party while I was on a killing spree with my skit
So when would you guys estimate Space Marine 2 will have a sale of some kind. I'm looking to get some friends of mine into it but one is broke as shit and the other is a tight ass that requires either a really good pitch or a really low price tag to buy a video game.
>>571788306its fucking awful, do not.
>>571788086That's pretty awful, the banter is something I look forward to in a new class release. Three DLC classes in and they're skimping on VO stuff isn't very assuring.
>>571787970I've seen people post tge Skitarii banter on Youtube but personally I haven't really heard any, even between Skitarii, they only react to kill streaks/friendly fire and don't have the usual discussions at all. Something feels fucky here.
>>571788305He actually said "skitch"
>>571787970>>571788086>>571788374turn the difficulty down and dont have any mission modifiers. they cant play during combat
>>571787858>>571788084
>>571788306It tends to go on sale at least once a month.
>>571776895Maybe I'll change my mind in the future but he just doesn't compete in havoc with vet. I just did a game with him and the entire time I just wished I had a vet instead.>dogshit ammo economy>voltaic worse than shout>grenades suck>servoskull niche can mostly be replaced with shout res>doesn't seem to be able to hit one shot headshots on gunners in H40 with the plasma compared to vet who can reliably oneshot any non ogryn/boss enemy to the headWe had powerload and I pretty much didn't notice it and it didn't effect how I played in any capacity. Maybe theres better builds for him but I'm just not convinced and I won't bother accepting him until I'm 40 again
>>571788501Is that new? I've always played Damnation/Auric and have still heard character banter frequently enough. When I played today it felt almost eerie having my character be completely silent for two matches while the Skitarii kept patting each other on the back.
>>571788501>they cant play during combatIt USED to be like that, but they changed it so banter can happen in almost all situations. If they reverted that change for the skittles update then I have no words.
>>571788305Sefoni was mindraping him
>>571788306Probably very soon since the Steam summer sale is right around the corner
>>571786756I'm not, I'm now motivated to play that shitty Mechanicus game, even though turn based SUCKS
what's the difference between charges and capacitance? are charges purely just the number of ult casts i have, and capacitance some nebulous counter that scales buffs and charge recovery rate? but also spending charges can boost capacitance recovery which in turn boosts charge recovery?
>Wanted to be a minion master skit with maxed out skull tree and three little guys following me around>Flamer and medicae share a button, making it super awkward to use>Unlike the Arbite dog which will go kill shit on its own, if you don't babysit the skull with noosphere and blow capacitance on it, it'll kill maybe 1/8th of what the dog can do>The dog will still murderize anything you point it at, but for free and it gets a explosion which doesn't consume grenadesGuess I'll go back to serving the Lex
>>571787950Give it a week and everyone will switch back to their mains
lollmao even
>>571786905nobody knows, just after everything else that has happened before it in the game. Could have been a cool mission where we are doing something, Hadron takes over the mission partway, and then shit gets kind of crazy in the end
>>571789768whats problem?
>>571789851The problem is adding dead passives that no one will ever pick in a bloated skill tree on a class that is mid at best.
I keep trying to dodge with shift in Rogue Core and its getting me killed
>cleaning up a horde>oh look my teammates over there are engaging a new horde>lemme smack these last two enemies with a heavy attack so my toughness is full>Your shitty dog >>571789535 pounces on my enemy and my heavy attack whiffsI hate you, the Lex and especially your shitty dog.
>>571789932my dodge button in all games is bound to alt
>voltaic discharge and arc maul skit vs 3 claw and transonic skitsadmittedly I also fire the phosphor a LOT, but stillarcs are crazy, if you're playing skit and not using arcs, you're playing him wrong
>>571789986Okay that's nice and all but where updated scoreboard mod please
>Mister Estrogen says flamer skull bad>Reginald says flamer skull goodAAAAAAAAA I DON'T KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE AAAAAAAA WTF I CAN'T THINK FOR MYSELF NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME REEEEEEEE
What's the build for Sicarian Disciple penance (kill 5 elites in 10s with Chordclaw)?Axial Slash and Redline Protocol into a bunch of Ragers?
>>571789986Post build?
>>571790149wait until the anon verdict
>>571790167just grab the horizontal slash and mash it when the rager brigade shows up
Ammo-restoration pod is really fucking useless. If it was every 2-3% it'd be worth the take
>tranny blades are meant to be THE anti armor weapon>has pathetic anti carapace capabilitieswhat did fatshark mean by this
So they removed crushers then turn around and add another heavy armored enemy with a shield. Its like they don't want light pen weapons to be useful.
>>571789278its capacitance charge
>>571790149it’s not good sadlyyou can use it if you really want to and if you’re not using medicae skull but there’s better uses for that talent point
>>571784764It feels like it doesn't matter what you pick, you will end up with a generic +60% increased damage +25% toughness recovered on kill build
>>571790473moot point since it's your only access node to aimbot
>>571785005>this nigga can't play focus target without autotag
>>571790149it's flamer zealot except it costs a blitz, won't reposition itself, and has no blessings on its flamer>>571790525>hey sven, the crowbar was a miserable failure that no one uses>but we had a lot of fun making it, and it's one of the most mechanically unique weapons we've made>how about we make it again?>should we improve it this time?>lol no
>>571790589Can you at least bump his shield away like in das vermintide 2?
Someone tell me what the use case for ablative wards is
for me, it's still the braced MK2
>>571790840literally only if you have a zealot with corruption cleanse aura in your group
>>571790832The shields break like in ratclick.
I have never used the PFalchion, what do i put on it? How do i use it?
>>571790525it does pen armor, but its damage is low and it needs to fish for crits
>>571790840you have a flex point in your build and you're going into a havoc with a corruption modifier, so you swap it over there so you can ignore the modifiersame exact reason arbites has the rebreather node
>>571790984the problem isnt the shield, its the nigger behind it having as much health as a bulwark
>>571788128Shield zaps count for the penance, I'm pretty sure
>>571791174That's the neat thing...
Was it sabotage?
>>571791412People keep saying its good on Skittles which is what im planning on using it on
>>571791307Only arc grenades and voltaic discharge cause weapon malfunction, you're thinking of arcs.
>about to get mad progress on my stupid penance>fuckhead connects in to replace an AI, and aggros both of them and wakes the DHclassic penances doing their absolute best to bring out the worst in people, namely me
>>571791506Skittles has fuckton of damage increase and easily accessible attack speed, so it could be true.Blessings are unimpressive because it's one of the recently released weapons and they avoid putting strong blessings on weapons now.I put Overload and Cranial Grounding on mine, haven't played it yet.
>>571790473It's a tax node
>>571791463every single skitarii blessing is nerfed for no fucking reason.
>>571789986Yeah, but I have more fun with dual blades than I do with Mace: The Re-Re-Macening
>>571789080Probably unronically true
The other ults seem a lot worse than the claw, and not having the drone makes it feel like you're not using the main gimmick of the class. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Even though the claw and drone are cool, it doesn't feel like there's much of a choice here.
>>571791174Keep posting anime duties and I might tell you
>>571791808>>571790473>have a bunch of handy dandy 1tap options>muh its a wasteits fine although it does make the ammo reserve shit mandatory unfortunately
>>571792006No
>>571792078Good bitch, animu was a mistake
>>571792003the main gimmick is going zippity zap
>>571792003Voltaic is pretty underrated.
>>571792003>auto aimis fine and its genuinely what a stormtrooper/vet should have gotten, and has shenanigans attached to it, namely the>TGH on active>damage on active>ez pz flensing toggle refresh on activeshenanigansShock is honestly not bad since you trade a bit of crowd control the vet shout has, for alot of damage synergies tied to>shock>capacitance>ability use
>>571792078my french nun wife
>>571792003The reason there is a separate chordclaw weapon in the game files is that chordclaw was intended to be a weapon, but the abilities they came up with were so shitty, they had to change it into ability
>if the arbite doesnt bring the dog he gets a passive 15% toughness DR, 10% attack speed, 10% flat damage, +1 blitz and regenerating grenades>if skitty doesn't bring their servo skull they get.. a shield that uses grenade charges to block ranged attacks for a few seconds, or 3 grenades that are worse than the grenades of other classesMake it make sense
>>571792407no, thats just coding, because it replaces your weapon
>>571792541they would be viable if skitty had any kind of equipment regen but yeah
Does your servo skull shoot dogs that are pouncing you off the same way the Arby dog does?
>>571792541arc grenade is better than most grenades, its better than frag, box, stun, most grenade wont kill groups of elites instantly
>>571768961I gave my skitarii different eyes because it looks good on the heads with mismatched lenses but horrible on the heads with matching lenses.But the hood of the head I want doesn't come in the color of the forge world I like.
>>571792719yeah but hes slower and more retarded
GIVE ME A FUCKING OGREN IN MY PARTYSTOP PLAYING REDDIT ROBOTS AAA
is there anything more niggerish than an enemy getting a random free shotgun blast on you when you get dogged?
>>571792541Skitraii was clearly a rushed addon rather than planned, after Hive Scum got the scum's welcome by people who were deluded by a font colour.
>>571792719>>571792782if you can finagle the camera to cooperate with you can mark and noosphere his ass off you
>>571792839flamethrowers brapping on you while the dog molests you
>>571792839yes?getting burgle grabbed through a wall/being burnt alive inside a burgle are probably the most egregious
>>571792826I just played 2 maelstroms with 4 ogryn and they were all braindead, enjoy it while you can
These new shield bitches have insanely high stagger resist and health. wtf man
>backpack light is always blue regardless of your eye colorwhat the fuck, it looks stupid when you use the other colors.
>>571793012The forums are saying you just need to>lEaRn hOW tO cOunTErPlAYso better suit up nonny
>>571793012they dont have stagger resistthey just have a ton of>HP>hitstop>almost exclusively require heavy attacks and flanking to killThe hitstop is whats contributing to them being super dangerous in groups, since you can only really stunlock one at a time depending on your weapon
>>571793073this is honestly looking to be an oversightbut then again at this point what isnt
>shop resets>arc rifle w/ mobility dump statNow we're cooking.
>>571793073sorry anon, not to worry though, there's 3 slopshop backpacks that have different lights that dont match your eyecolour either
Am I crazy or do the pink healing enemy have immunity to stagger? I don't remember this being a thing before.
How does crafting even work? Can I just buy a shitty weapon and mass upgrade it to 400/stat it
>>571793332for what its worth, i dont think you should be reloading ever>>571793413correctfor some reason you cant do that with your starter weapon, which used to not be a thing and which i prefer since i prefer "76/80" across the board
>>571792542they even made 2 marks of it
>>571793413buy item you want from brunt over and over until it has the dumpstat you want (usually mobility/defence), then consecrate and empower it to 500
>>571793485its probably for the stabs
>>571793413Along with what everyone else said you can also do this to power level weapons to max mastery of you have the scratch for it.
total skitarii death.
>darktide a year ago>the most iconic weapon is the tooth pick, aside from that some people swear by the smaller toothpick, but it's all just toothpicks>darktide now>ay bro here's ur like sixth stick with glowy shit on it, it's also the best weapon in the game again, enjoyamazing, such progress
Overload is clearly the best purple
>>571794473but im doing penances yeah?
>>571794473It seems fine in that it will pretty much be active all the time during horde situations. Also the passive bonus node seems nice
Was damnation always this horrible at lower levels or is it all the shitters online
>>571768961Should've made damaged lenses a lens color option
>Skitarii class has mixed reviews so do I buy it or not /coopg/?
>>571795383BUY BUY BUUYY!!!
>>571785131Oh, lolMy bad thanks for explaining >>571792078What the fuck is that
>>571785259Everyone who replied to you is fucking bullshitting btw.Problem with opening a hobby store is that anything that is not TCG takes up a lot of space and doesn't sell as well as any card pack.I've worked in a hobby store once, Have SEVERAL friends who manage/own them. specialising in just miniatures is just a race to the bottom as your consumer base is just going to go to whatever store has the highest discount.Also that whole "GW opening a store next to you" is laughably bullshit. GW is transitioning to making their stores "beginner" stores then moving their existing customer base to stockists. I've seen the numbers, retail nearly dropped by 10% in my cunt. because of this. But it is by design as they want a warhammer store to be like a lego store, and kick all the smelly nerds out.I would never trust the opinion of anything to do with GW on 4chan ever, It is quite literally, all schizo shit from disgruntled customers. Enjoy my little nugget of wisdom.
>>571795260yes and yes
>>571793350they have a shitton of stagger resist, like +300% or something. don't ask why
I want the "I AM DEATH" skitarii chick to milk me dry in amazon position with her wombforce 9000.
>>571795805that one is unironically male though. they just pitched up the voice to make it sound female
>>571795383I boughteded and I don't care for it. I am not really enjoying their unique weapons and I fail to see what they bring to the table that other classes don't do way better.
>>571795805>>571795889Lol fag
So, this thing is using battery power instead of gunpowder?
>>571795613>What the fuck is thatConstantly fucking with (and breaking) the light and creating character models that look like dogshit without proper light and shadowsaverage Warframe update, really
>>571795889The default lines before voice adjustment don't sound male at all. Maybe youre confusing it with the other psycho personality.
already getting back to back games with no other skits
so is the paid class underpowered again
>>571795383the design is 10/10, and if people are bitching that just means it'll get gigabuffed
>>571796450>in 3 months when Fatshark comes back from their summer vacation
>>571796158both, its a railgun
>>571796567if you recall they hard nerfed (fixed admittedly) the dog bleed missile and broke the stacking keystone (lol) and THEN went on a holiday
>>571796658>isnt electromagnetically powered>isnt tauit isnt
>>571796734then came back and nerfed the class for good measurethese devs deserve arrowhead's fanbase but 3x worse
>>571789974There is no dodge in rogue core.
>>571796994let's be realthey don't deserve any fanbase
I dunno how to build arbites
>>571795383skulls aren't automated enough
>>571796445Their power level is fine, they aren't insane like Hives Cum but are comparatively in line with pretty much all the other classes. I think they sort of lack a niche though, although I guess being an all-rounder is kind of their niche?
>>571797283Explain.
>>571791174Heatsink and cranial grounding are basic to let you have more charged uptime, you can get shockline breach protocol for more cleave so you won't need wrath on it unless you want more. Used unempowered against poxwalker hordes, activate it against mixed hordes or carapace. I prefer mk 1 for the light cleave and heavy strikedown moveset, the push attack is also a strikedown to punish ragers. The powered strikes will fuck rager hordes and you can kill the new shield guys in 3 lights or a couple heavies. Stat yourself the same as if you were using the transblades.
>>571791174Cranial Grounding and Overload to maximize your overall energized uptime.Then turn it on and power sword things.
>>571797141that's pretty impressive considering that there's like 2 builds, 1 if we're being real about the 2nd one's usefulness
Should I use the stabby bleed claw or sweep claw?
>>571798629depends on your other talent nodes and what weapons you're using. main gimmick of the stab is boss damage stacking and redline capacitors
So how does the Mechanicus power sword work exactly?
Man I'm usually the biggest noob coddler and shitter defender, "these difficulties are where people who are learning the game are supposed to be" type shit, but man. I just had a game where two people went down on the way to the first bomb of rolling steel. The FIRST BOMB. ON DAMNATION. PLEASE I JUST WANT TO FINISH LEVELING MY SKITTER
What's the dump stat for trans blades?
>>571799103The balls
>>571799049Mostly strikedowns in the combo with some sweeps. The special is the energized strike, tap special to do a light energized attack and hold special for a heavy energized attack. Attack enemies to build up charges. Its honestly a bit clunky.
GOOODDDDD FUCKKKK I WANT TO BE MATING PRESSED I WANT TO BE MATING PRESSED SO BADLY FUUUUUUCKKKKKKcoop games for this feel?
>>571798629You can still use the single target claw by holding it when you have horizontal claw
>>571799292>>571799049Also the more charge you have built up the more damage normal strikes do I think.
>>571799049POORLYYou have its standard moveset, which isn't great for general use. It's mostly single target strikedowns, with a horde combo nestled in there. Really benefits from the uninterruptible talent node to stop you from being hit out of that horde clearing combo. You can then use the weapon special key to do full energized attacks like other power swords have, tap for light, hold for heavy. Same move set as normal, and you can chain them together.Using an energized attack drains a charge, which weakens its normal sword mode.
>>571799576>Using an energized attack drains a charge, which weakens its normal sword mode.why the fuck is that a thing
WHY THE FUCK DO RETARD OGRYNS STEAL THE HEALTH STIMS WHEN THEY HAVE 4 FUCKING WOUNDS AND SOMEONE IS ON THEIR LAST ONE
>>571800241BIG MAN GET BIG HEALTH SAH
>>571800241all ogryn players are too busy larping, being fucking stupid beyond belief, and satisfying their severe OCD need to stay topped off on EVERYTHINGwhich is hilarious, considering how easily they take damage and how quickly they use all their resources
>>571799103cleave efficiency
>>571796194I didn’t even know Warframe had face models like that. I thought everyone was covered up with those masks. Is this a recent thing?
>>571800241know you're place shrimp
>>571800575> Is this a recent thing?no not reallyalthough they did make them more prevalent recently iirc
honestly health stims should just heal 50% max hp no matter what, making it heal less when you have more wounds is fucking retardedextra wounds is the most worthless noob bait curio option anyways outside of zealot, and martyrdom isn't going to be broken because suddenly zealot can rez twice or something off a stim
hmmm... is it finally time to retvrn to Darktide?
China news: Chinese players think that western servers have half the difficulty level of chinese servers. This is because they watch english footage and keep going>Huh?? How are they winning with such bad weapons?? This can't be, we are smarter than those white skinned bastard...>Their game must be easier! It's like the exact thing you see here wheenver you tell a guy you like a weapon he doesn't like. He instantly goes>must be nice on malice! except the chinks go>must be nice on non china server!!it's like they're all just the same mad scrubs that post here but tuned up to 11
You know what really grinds my gears and mogs my cogs about skitarii? Why. In the fuck. Does our servoskull not have a flashlight on it?
>>571801360lost technology of the ancients
>>571801360dark maps need to be equally cock and ball torture for everyone
>>571801359chinks fucking suck at video games and have to cheat to make up for it lol
>>571800241Because I know better who gets stimmed
>>571800853>how dare it be a knowledge check toolit punishes people with OCD, and thats alright with me
>>571800241AMMO? RATIONS?ALL MINE!
>>571800241me big chungus me wan da rashuns!
>>571799919It's unironically a better implementation than power cycler or heat mechanics. There is a cost, you can use energized attacks on demand, and it doesn't take 2 seconds to perform a ritual activation dance. The loss in damage isn't too high either.The problem is that thumb button is a poor choice for attack button, especially when you need to hold it for heavy attacks and the game demands you to strictly follow certain loop to maintain an optimal combo.And generally it's not the damage penalty that makes mechanicus powersword bad. It's the general power of the weapon that sucks - it has weak basic attacks, it had weak energized attacks, it has bad cleave, it has poor carapace penetration, it has slow attack speed, and it has low mobility. Special needs moveset is a cherry on top. I can even handle it if I don't use special attacks. But trying to weave them in is way too fucking much.
My initial read on the tranny-killing blades is that strikedown stance is better 90% of the time and both stances are best spamming heavy attacks. Anyone disagree?
>>571803363>The problem is that thumb button is a poor choice for attack button, especially when you need to hold it for heavy attacks and the game demands you to strictly follow certain loop to maintain an optimal combo.ill tell you what the real issue is, you combine that with the precision moveset of the powersword and for me i veer off right since im thumbing from the left
>>571803363special just empowers the next attack in the chain, it rewards you for knowing where you are in the attack chain>>571803556wrong
>>571801360Why the fuck doesn't every class have access to fucking flashlights?>Yes, I want to quickplay into a lights out match where I can't see the silent fucking crushers standing 3 feet away from me. BRAVO FATSHIT
>>571803556this is my assessment as well>theres an entire line dedicated to weakspot kills, so strikedowns are better for it>combine that with the block-attack being a horizontal sweep and it just has a better CC block attack as a resultThat said if you have high crit/proc shock the CC from wildly cleaving/flailing/critting/ and incidentally shocking is a bullshit machine
>>571803790its called the darktide, not the well lit tide
>>571804067Eat my ass, Swede
>>571803556You spam light attacks when in range or you hold heavy attacks when you lunge or slide to the next target. Or you just vibe it.>strikedown stance is better 90% of the timeOnly vs single target. Vanguard stance has cleave, I don't know if it holds up in havocs though.
>>571795383The arc rifle and phosphor pistol are really goodThe transphobic blades are good but the other two unique melee offerings are kind of dogshitChordclaw is just grail knight from VT2 so it's amazingThe electrical AOE ability is alright but the coverage feels buggy and extremely picky; if there's any elevation or terrain between you and a gunner, the weapon jammer will just not work on them (I suspect the game just checks if the line of sight between your feet and the enemies' is clear when you use the ability) if it were more reliable it'd be A+ as well but right now it gets too easily cucked by random clutterThe autoaim is the weakest ability, it's just a toggle for pinpoint accuracy and zero recoil so it can juice up an autogun into the stratosphere but it's ironically mid for the skitarii's unique gunsThe blitz choices are kind of passable, only the servo skull is worth the points for the utility of automating the hacking mini game
>since you have shock you can just flail your way out of a bullshit duel with a crusher
>>571804517>only the servo skull is worth the points for the utility of automating the hacking mini gameIf that's all you want from it, don't even spend the points
>>571804517advanced combat doctrine's aim assist cone is just too fucking narrow for me to consider it a good pickI might as well just aim at the target myself at that point
I'm using>overcharge>shield>toughness regen aura>electrocute perksAnd as always, my greatest enemy is randomly spread out shooters
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>>571801528True, they even cafes and shit that sell mods and cheats
>>571787124>>571787426I actually have seen the movie, but I always seem to forget the context of that image in particular.
>>571804517arc maul is really good
>>571778428True, but the bottom line is it’s because they have tech they want/hate rather than any “we hate you icky abhumans” reasoning
>>571778216They’re both dumb but for different reasons
>>571520961>>571522262>>571520813anti imperium tards really will just say whatever dumb shit comes to their mind
>> 571758008The AdMech haven’t uniformly done that either, only certain sects, it’s the main reason the decision is still under debate and why not everyone does it.
