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The good ending

Previous bread >>571801394

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
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Twisted route.
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Kris is Cuck man now.
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I SAW THIS POSTED ON AN EARLIER THREAD AND I CAN'T FIND THE SOURCE NO MATTER WHERE I LOOK SOMEONE HELP PLEASE!!!
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guys whos worse?

trannies being anal about kris pronouns or spics being anal about translations?...
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AQUA IS SO FUCKING HOT
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Is it controversial to say Toby Fox has a cuck fetish?
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>write fluffy boy character who is soft, caring, likes to bake and be pretty, is submissive and preaches finding purpose through serving others
>surprise, hes actually a girl! bet you didn't see that coming eh?
Wow... so this what it means to be progressive
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It's been one hell of a day.
Actual previous thread.
>>571818209
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Here's your weird route bro
>https://youtu.be/ctyDL-6f90w
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Imagine how sweaty Alphys must be.
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I'm so curious about what the concept art for the 7 flowers are going to look like, Toby must've had them around for a LONG ass time.
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>>571826709
it was in a catbox last night
pretty sure it's ai generated
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Why can't i just tell to the characters that they're just pixels and files in a videogame? Wouldn't that be funny?
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>>571826680
It truly is our last hope, isn't it?
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Does Kris have feelings for Susie or for Noelle that reaction could easily correspond to either
The ending could easily be him feeling left out friendship-wise
I think he's in love with one of them for sure, but I'm less convinced it's Susie
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>>571826713
you by far bringing such shit topics up at the start of a new thread
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If this shit came out a few years ago we would have a separate general for the flower dudes
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fuck this love triangle shit kris let's find a way out for you bud there's no winning when the writer is a yurifag
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imagine telling an outsider or a retired fan this is the flowey counterpart in Deltarune
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>>571826801
Might still happen
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>>571826801
Nah, the designs sucked outside of Seth and Aqua.
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>>571826717
She is a little girl (same age as all the other plants) you sick fuck
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>>571826864
you just want to fuck those two
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>>571826753
can you link me it? so many catbox links were posted
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This is the flower thread and you better get used to seeing this purple nerd thing.
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>>571826901
you cant fool me ERAM
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>>571826857
Nah we're past that point, at most it would be /seth/
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>... hey Kris, watch this.
>Lake... skip!
>... I can hear you trying not to laugh, dumbass.
>Fine. We'll see how far YOU get at the lake next time.
The scene you get if you miss Onion in chapter 4 was just blatant weird route foreshadowing all along. Crazy how it seemed funny and wholesome before now.
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At this point I'm convinced Suselle is just pic related.
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>>571826887
it all comes back to deers molesting kris, every single time.
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>>571826904
Your point?
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>>571826864
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>>571826904
And? It's not like I've got high standards here.
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>>571826741
Okay, where is all this shit about Ralsei being trans even coming from? I didn't see any of that shit in the game
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>>571826904
nta but I only want to fuck Seth and other than Flowey those two were the most tolerable
They also got the most screen time so somebody is aware of that
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Noelle boss in CH.7 weird route will get Megalovania calling it now.
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Between this and the blue flower stuff that was hyped before the release, I think I'm going to take Toby's "hints" much less seriously in the future, if at all.
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>aqua
>not cyan
toby why
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>>571826105
The Knight Gang's plan hinges on dark worlds being something easily dismissed so that nobody will ever look into them, so they CANNOT risk even the tiniest chance of Toriel knowing dark worlds aren't just the mad ravings of her ex-husband. If someone who isn't either viewed as a schizo by the whole town or a dumb teenager found out, they're completely fucked.
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>>571826901
she was only supposed to live for one day, she's so far past her expiry date she's basically a 5000 year old hag in flower years
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>>571826972
Mindbroken people reading too much into Flowery calling him Princess. Also Asgore calls him "them" but I'm pretty sure that's because he doesn't know the guy
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>>571826574
Aaaaaaah, sex with Aqua! Flower cunny! I need flower loli! Letting Aqua play with my dick and balls!
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>>571826840
This ugly motherfucker is fucking a fat purple cat bitch and a sassy hot alligator
How is Burgerpants getting more bitches than me?
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>>571826935
She reminds me a lot of that Starlow Goon from undertale yellow
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>>571827017
It was Kris' jealousy all along and we'll see the inferno in chapter 6
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>>571826972
You can dress him up like a pretty pink princess and Flowery calls him a Princess mockingly later on.
Ralsei is pretty clearly just a fruity dude who likes dresses, same as always.
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The last egg room was definitely a little short compared to the previous two, but this basically confirms that SOMETHING will come from having all the eggs so I'm happy.
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>>571826741
Boys can be cute
Boys can wear dresses
Boys can enjoy being called princesses
Not everyone who enjoys traditionally feminine things are trans
I swear trans people will be the next chud-like obstacle of gender progression
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Damn it only took like 1 hour for the thread to go from usable to being Kris shippers. Well it was cool stopping by
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hey hey, people
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>>571827060
they actually
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I don't really like chapter 5
Waiting for chapters six seven now
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I want to annihilate the world together with a girl who looks at me like this
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>>571827046
Sans original name is Lancer
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I don't wanna be a JUSTICE if I can't rape Noelle!
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>>571826972
He wore a dress at the start as your princess in Castletown and yellow kept calling him princess. You can't even be gay in fiction anymore, you are always instantly assumed to be trans.
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>>571827060
>She
its they anon, you're not on /v/ and you don't have the "kris is for selfinserting" excuse anymore, its they, play the fucking game
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>>571827017
people thought it was asgore's jelousy, but it ended up being shitsei's.
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>>571826935
Toby Fox read and internalized each and every single one of those "you'd like Berdly more if he was a girl" and "you'd like Alphys more if she was a guy" posts
The result was the perfect Tobysoft nerd waifubando
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>childhood trauma of my near death experience almost drowning comes back and now I cant fucking sleep
Thanks Toby, that part was harder to watch than gore footage
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I've come to make an announcement.

Aqua was my favorite and I do not want to have sex with her.

Green was also chill.

Thank you.
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>>571827017
Gerson's book descriptions are for the secret bosses, this one was for Mew Mew.
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>>571827121
Can someone edit this so she's smoking a blunt to make Noelle look more gangster?
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>>571826901
I see Lisa (from LISA) whenever I look at her. Not that people didn't lewd her, but still.
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>>571827090
it was short but the narration nearly made me cry
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This shit about "Dood chapter 3 was complete filler and 4 was the plot heavy one" is just NOT true.
The only plot relevant thing in chapters 3-5 is the Knight appearing, and surprise it happens in chapter 3, not 4.
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>>571827026
Aqua Teen Hunger Force reference, please understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnMvhPqQkM
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>>571827104
you don’t understand anon I-i mean kris is obviously in love with my favorite character the signs are all there
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>>571827141
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>>571827121
was this chapter's weird route just toby's excuse to draw a bunch of serving cunt faces for noelle
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>>571827017
You mean the thing Ralsei keeps saying he's capable of doing and wants to avoid doing so he doesn't brick the Fun Gang's save?
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>>571827090
Oh fuck. Dess wants her kids.
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I WANT TO FUCK AQUA
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>>571827204
>said the neglectful adults of hometown, oblivious to Kris' struggles
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>>571826972
Flowery spends the entire chapter lecturing Ralsei about hiding himself just to fill the needs of the prophecy and calls him princess. He comes out of the closet at the start of the chapter. He really wants the pink and blue drink but is too concerned with appeasing Kris to voice it. He wants to try being a princess in Castle Town
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>>571826972
One of his titles uses "they" instead of "him" in the description so all the usual types are parading it around without context.
Ironically, this would be an even worse version of Bridget since this would mean his 'awakening' would have been a dude he hates gaslighting and misgendering him into giving up on his actually self-chosen identity.
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The tsundere cactus that hid behind the curtain in Chapter 3 was probably a human-like Darkner like the flowers and that's why it was hidden
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>>571827180
where was the inferno?
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For me, it's Carol.
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Alright everyone, state your opinion.
Would the blue flower character be better if it was reveled to be Rouxls in disguise the entire time. The reveal comes at the end when everyone else is turning into flowers as you say goodbye, he just removes his blue flower costume and reveals himself to be rouxls.
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has anyone noticed that the flower's portraits are monochromatic meaning that they technically aren't darkners?
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>>571826753
post the catbox then
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>>571827080
This trans shit is getting on my nerves why cant we just have cute anthro femboys?
Guess I know how bridget fans felt like
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>>571826972
It's been a meme in this general because some tranny youtuber made a shitty video essay about it
But now the /v/ babbies came who are easily triggered by the implications of such things and to them Ralsei in a dress = confirmation that he's trans or something
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>>571827368
anon they literally say this
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>>571827270
Baaaaaaased! Aqua should be a good flower onahole girl...or you know stab us mid fuck thinking It's playing
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>>571827312
Several of her attacks involve fiery bombs
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>>571827361
that would make me 8% more pleased with this chapter
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>>571827361
Literrally anything is better than the tranny shit we got. All flowers except Orange need redesign NOW
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>>571827091
"Why cant boys just like girly things" is literally just the bog standard transphobic dogwhistle. Idk why youd play the biggest game for LGBTQ rep and be so against Trans rep
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>>571827318
Kris also had a cyan silhouette in Asgore's flashback sequence.
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>>571827361
I would barely consider the blue fuck a character to begin with, so probably yeah
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Miss you Flowey, should've been you.
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>>571826574
>Good ending
But where is Berdly
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shelter code was found by accident
can these chimps do anything to actually progress
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>>571827318
Great find.

>>571827368
They explicitly tell you they're neither Lightners nor Darkners, they're temporarily elevated by Darkness into Dreamers.
They'll probably just get called 'plantners' or something else stupid, since the community has the creative wit of half a Homestuck.
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>>571827416
i think that's a dumb answer, but then again nobody was thinking about saving queen when you're fighting spamton
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>>571827449
You can ragebait better than that.
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>>571827318
I saw this picture posted like four times while playing through the chapter and thought I was getting spoiled on Aqua fucking dying from a glimpse of it
I still never saw this scene though, she wasn't in the food coloring
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>>571826972
They say "OH YEA I KNOW YOU LOVE THE BLUE AND PINK ONE SO YOU SHOULD SAY YOU WANT THAT ONE"
and then they call him princess
I always assumed ralsei being a tranny would be, at absolute most, a vague metaphor like the ghosts are, not hitting you over the head with it
mad mew mew is back in action to show all the hons what a REAL tranny looks like though, intense lust for cock included
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>>571827468
How would Flowey react to his AU counterpart Flowery?
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https://x.com/hexxewyrm/status/2070035221387554913?s=20
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>>571826709
>>571826918
>>571827374
>>571826753
ok i found the post myself
>>571783893
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Theories on why Rudy is being compared to Flowey?
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>>571826972
>>571827378
It's just /v/eddit doing what it does
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I'm gonna have to play the entire fucking game over again just to get all eggs aren't I.
I know they're gonna be for something.
But then I gotta make a THIRD save to play Weird Route.
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>>571827480
>accident
susie says flowery told her where the code was, kris just got to it first
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Anons... i want to swim inside the lake...
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>>571827449
I'm non-binary myself and Toby being an ally creator is a big part of why I got into these games.
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>>571827530
>Nobody recognized it as AI slop
It's over
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>>571827530
highly based, thanks anon
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>>571827551
The pronoun change is pretty weird though.
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>>571827378
Beats me man.
It all stems from the lion wearing a dress and Asriel wearing his mom's robe in Undertale.
Sometimes dudes just don't wear pants, simple as.
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>>571827361
It would undermine the drama but it would be REALLY funny
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>>571827521
Hot! Now have Aqua reveal she doesn't wear panties
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>>571827504
>Blue and pink one is the one Ralsei wants
>Kris is blue, Susie is purple but pinkish in the darkworld
>Instead of it being viewed as Ralsei wanting to enjoy an ice cream that reminds him of his friends
>Or even his secret desire to vore Susie and Kris
>It is instead taken that he is trans
It's all so tiresome.
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>>571827592
>I'm non-binary myself
no you aren't
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knowing that drowning does actually affect the game im actually fucking terrified for chapter 7
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>>571827536
Flowery based his entire persona off of Rudy, down to literally calling himself Asgore's college roommate.
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>>571827517
Bemused at first, but inevitably kill him I expect.
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It's over
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>>571827572
Don't forget to have an aborted weird route save. No, not the twisted route, that's the one where you stop it at chapter 2. Aborted is when you stop it at chapter 5.
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Susie allowing you to equip her with ribbons is the clearest sign that she's fucking mind controlled.
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>>571827592
>I'm non-binary myself
How does theyfab pussy feel like?
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Does the mannequin really help against the secret boss? I got beaten more badly than all the other chapters combined and that includes pre-patch Knight without mantle
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>>571827576
yeah how about we, just, DONT do that
have flowery tell them both and they find it together instead of everything being SUSIE SUSIE SUSIE SUSIE
Like it was a fucking afterthought
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>Entire fight is dummy fighting to not get turned into a boy-crazy slut like the body desperately wishes to be
>Gives in at the end and is already flirting with kris and kisses him
damn kris is a lucky bastard
You think he'd give me a turn in the 'driver's seat' while he was banging mannequin pussy?
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*pokes ralsei*
haha you should kill someone haha why don't you get angry haha
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Ralsei doesn't send you away for the onsen Kralsei shipbait scene even though both of them could probably force it to happen, so is it actually a (You)sei shipbait scene?
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>>571827663
I only have 3 save slots Anon.
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>>571827141
ywnbaw lowkirkenually
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>>571827654
I honestly don’t think Flowey could kill him
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>>571827517
Hateboner.
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>>571827616
>Kris got to see bare Aqua cunny
I want to torture them more and more
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>>571827671
She literally backs out as soon as you actually try it and wears it on her arm instead
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>>571827676
I don't know, I am so shit at keeping track of the best armors I just powered through with what I had, mannequin included.
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>>571827634
What you gonna start deciding genders for real people too now?
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>finish deltarune normal route
>get jumpscared by lake mungo noelle because you did the chapter 5 weird route
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>>571827676
Yeah. But it's better if you upgrade it into the one that has actual stats
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>>571827637
Yeah I get that's why in game but why did Toby write it like that
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>>571827676
I felt like a fucking retard in the flowery fight because I couldn't hit any of the timings for shit, dashing only worked half the time so I was just mashing the button for most of those (it had a 99% success rate when he tries to kick you) and the one with aqua and the bouncing knives was just me endlessly eating shit
mewmew was almost easy in comparison, outside of the 50 bomb spam attack
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>>571827756
Proof?
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>>571827671
Susie is more likely acting like she doesn’t much time to live.
I bet she’s going to go so berserk she puts on a dress from her apartment just to feel like a cute girl.
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>>571827607
I would just wear a big fucking robe if it was socially acceptable to do so. At best I would be regarded as a freak and at worst a massive faggot.
Suspenders are also infinitely better then vests, I wear them under my hi-vis and no one even knows. If I had to proudly display those things I might just go back to wearing a belt.
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>>571827728
Maybe not the first time, but Flowey pre-frisk has the power of a save file and he's one hell of a manipulator that's willing try try anything and everything. It's inevitable given enough time and persistence.
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Golly, you really ARE obsessed with me. Aren't ya, idiot?
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>>571827676
Yes, the Mannequin defends against the Puppet/Cat element (like other Spamton-related armors) and at least some of Mew Mew's attacks use that element
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>>571827728
His OP powers are all for show and Flowey can also cheat.
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So any new Gaster content this chapter?
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I don't like the flowers because I see them as honey to flies that herald a influx of generic art for a game that's rife with creative, non overtly human-esque designs.
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>>571827707
Heal them with fire from above
kneeling, my god is the sun.
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>>571827756
>Enter shelter normal route chapter 7
>Full 4-man party of Kris, Susie, Ralsei, Noelle
>... Suddenly, splitscreen
>Fun gang on one side, and two walking corpses on the right
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>>571827850
I'm not looking forward to this era either
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>>571827803
no proofing necessary, we already have bread
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>>571827830
This guy was always cringe. Anyone who has godlike powers who constantly has to flaunt it over you speaks to a supremely fragile ego.
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>>571827475
frozen to death like a good meal.
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>>571827756
>Chapter 7 releases
>Boot up your normal save first to
>black screen and ocean sounds slowly give way to guitar chords
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If only we knew how good we had it
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>>571827830
I miss my flower husband so much
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>>571827841
Not really but Noelle calls Kris "Interesting" while she's going joker mode
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>>571827905
Flowery is RIGHT there
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>>571827852
So, who is he praying to? Gaster? The Angel? Us?
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>>571827504
He also calls him little, shoved him in the closet, calls him out for being a hypocrite and generally belittles him. The princess line is just nothing
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>entire chapter is themed around a vegetarian Dark World
>Spamton and Tenna almost not present because they don't care about this sissy rabbit food health fad shit
Bravo Toby
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>>571827830
Yes

>>571827886
That's basically Flowey's character in a nutshell.
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>>571827850
Oh
Oh I didn't even consider this
Oh fuuuckk.
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>>571827931
Who?
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>>571827536
Flowery is a reflection of multiple people's Best Friend in the same way Queen reflects the characters' mothers
He gave me Asriel vibes along with Rudy
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>>571827963
yo is that red
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QRD on Baby Kris?
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>>571827830
He's my fave, but I'm glad he wasn't in this chapter. Flowey without the weight of his specific backstory isn't even really Flowey. All the references to him were enough for me.
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Uhhhhhh
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>>571827827
Flowey could never beat Sans or Asgore, and personally I find Flowery about on par with Asgore in terms of difficulty (though Flowery is also using the power of friendship)
Unrelated, but I really like the fucky stuff that Flowery does with the mechanics of the game. Initiating a battle with the Knight by fighting a Floradinn nearby, then immediately sparing it so it's just a 1v1 is such a cool combo
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So was this the most KINO chapter in the entire game???
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>>571827761
This is the first I'm hearing of this being an option
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>>571827850
Only one or two of them should have been human tbbqh
Unless it gets revealed that the soil has human corpses in it or something
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>>571827931
Flowery is a simp living a lie. Flowey is the only one who truly understands (You)
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>>571827931
They're like water and oil, completely different characters.
I wonder if that was what Flowey became during his early resets before his boredom gave way to corruption.
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>>571827945
The spirit in the sky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2msh0jut2Y
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>>571827676
Yes but the TrueTie is much better
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I think the scene where Flowery fights The Knight was a jab at all those memes about The Knight being a fraud who only wins in cutscenes yadda yadda
Flowery literally pulls it into a battle so it can't escape and The Knight simply ignores both the game's mechanics and his stats and oneshots him
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>boss fight supposedly about defying fate
>It is the most railroaded end chapter fight in the game so far with next to no room for tactics
>They even heal the flower back to full if you dare give him a bop or two
Why did you even bring me here you cyanotic fuck
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>Hey man, what chapters do we have left?
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it's soon going to be 24 hours since release and i still don't know what my overall opinion about the chapter is
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>>571828065
Not even close
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>>571827841
One Friend sighting for 1 split second that deals high damage to you if you try to interact with it. That's the only friend sighting in the fucking field of PINK and GOLD.
Oh, and Seam quotes entry 17 again, but that's nothing new
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>>571828065
Weird Route? Absolutely.
Normal Route? Even Ch3 was less filler.
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>>571827850
The flowers really don't fit in with the rest of the game design-wise but people are gonna ignore that if they want to fuck them bad enough
But then again, to be fair, addisons and pippins weren't
>creative, non overtly human-esque designs either and I didn't see you complain
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>>571828132
well to be fair the numbers he dealt on the knight were fake
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>>571828087
This is probably why I liked Orange so much- I think Toby should've exaggerated their plant attributes and made them more like, well, flower people.
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>>571828146
I think it was pretty okay. I didn't like how Noelle completely dominated Susie's thoughts but I'll write it off as young love or prophecy fuckery or whatever.
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>>571827058
don't worry you can get your own fat bitch irl by bribing her with food
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>>571828136
the power of the prophecy has gotten strong enough that it is able to railroad everything including suselle
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>>571828136
>>boss fight supposedly about defying fate
No it's about doing what made chapter 2 good and failing at it
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>>571828132
That scene only further proves the point of the memes.
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>>571828065
no, but it was the most ludo
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You know, what IS the answer to Aqua's question? If Kris also has a knife why doesn't he use it?
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>>571828136
>>boss fight supposedly about defying fate
That's literally the opposite of what the fight is, though.
You're committing to Carrying Out(tm) fate, to the point that you're willing to exterminate an entire world and your best chance to defeat the Knight in a vain hope that you can change the prophecy.
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>>571828146
I tried asking you but you only seemed to have a problem with the boss being human.
You can just say "I think chapter 5 should have had a goat/flower/funny third thing boss instead of an anime fuckboy"
It's a valid opinion to have.
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>>571828084
it's called the true tie. I think it mixes the big shot bowtie with the tenna tie,
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>>571828136
Back to UTY Genocide for you
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Do people really not care about the return of blacksei and the chapter 1 forest?
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>>571828087
From a meta perspective, I think it's to make them seem more "real" compared to other Darkners because humans are realer than monsters, but from an in-universe perspective, it seems really arbitrary.
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>>571828058
I don't think Flowey explicitly says he couldn't beat Sans unless I've misremembered. He says Sans cost him his fair share of resets and we can guess his 360 pellet attack was conceived specifically to beat him. The only reason he doesn't kill you outright with it is because he's an egotistical sadist that wants to draw it out.
I'll give you Asgore though, he says he was never able to get to the vessels. He might have killed him but never found out how to get to them/inside the vessels.
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so is Kris just canonically an adonis sex god
Mewmew mindbroke herself so hard for his cock that she nearly self-destructed. Mewmew was cutesy and wanted to be super feminine in undertale but the level of almost brainwashing levels of tsundere in the fight was weird and incredibly hot, I actually finished mid-fight
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>>571828132
>p-pleease watch my cutscene where I totally pwn your sloppy seconds. Youre going to take me seriously now right? Kris please dont let the soul beat my ass again
yeah yeah the second i get my hands on that cunt im drowning her again
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>>571828267
Because if Kris acknowledges the knife, so can we.

>>571828331
It was great while it lasted but the spiteful nonstop mocking of pro-hatfags was obnoxious.
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>>571828287
>and your best chance to defeat the Knight
Flowey was their strongest guy and that guy got stomped
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>>571828136
You can't defy fate. Flowery knows he's losing but he continues to fight because that's what anime protagonists (which Flowery is) do
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>>571828087
kind of like the idea of humans being used as eldritch symbolism, like they were in undertale
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I expected jaronaposting and instead all i see is /pol/tardism yea im leaving
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Why there is 10 hidden ost in Chapter 5 playlist....?
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>>571828331
they chose to nostalgiabait chapter 1 instead of going back and bringing it up to speed with later chapters so no i don't because fuck em
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>>571828331
I cared and I loved getting another overt and blatant weed smokin' joke with Ralsei and the cowboy.
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>>571827854
>Kris, Susie, Ralsei and Noelle realizing they have to ACT with the two corpses
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>>571828353
What is wrong with you
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I wish Toby didnt include the 2D sections
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>>571828353
Goddess*
Yuri game
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What do you guys think of the "Susie's focus/obsession with Noelle in ch5 is self-aware writing" camp
I want DR to be good but I don't want to get hurt and let down if it was just written bad
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fuck this is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhdSUSXJi-g
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>>571828378
>Because if Kris acknowledges the knife, so can we.
Huh, very very good point anon. I hadn't thought about it like that before.
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>>571828331
It was nice seeing it again but I wish the bozo referring to both Ralsei and Toby in this casewould stop complaining about it so damn much.
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>>571828353
no it’s literally explained everyone else just thinks they are acting while Pink is extremely susceptible to emotional attacks
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>>571828414
Good riddance
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>>571828319
Oh that thing
When you said upgrade I thought you meant there was a way to upgrade the Mannequin itself
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>>571828380
It's Asgore.
Asgore has a Black Sword Shard from his first encounter with the Knight in '97.
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>>571828414
Goodbye anon
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>>571828415
>KRIS I'M CHUDDING OUT
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>>571828435
I think it's cope
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>>571828428
>>571828459
the fight was almost ripped straight from doujins I jack off to, it was amazing
>>571828434
fair, yuri corruption is also hot
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>>571828331
I think it's weird they brought back the Scarlet Forest trees and then chose to have the egg room have absolutely nothing to do with them or that area.
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>>571828087
If one random flower besides Flowery was a human for arbitrary reasons it'd be even more stupid
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>>571828449
He literally does look better this way and I wish Ralsei didn't hate his cool hat so much.
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>>571828437
This sounds like the backing track for a hard beat.
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>>571828331
Toby is doing callbacks to shit that HAPPENED ONLY A COUPLE DAYS AGO CANONICALLY
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>>571828267
I still think that Ralsei is the knife. That's the one object we know is always with Kris but never in their inventory, and Ralsei is always trying to conceal himself from the other lighters, much like how Kris hides the knife from people.
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I admit that I was wrong about the train. Please don't kill me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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>>571828331
Blacksei only lasts a little bit and the forest gets mogged to high heaven by the cliffs
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i actually really, really liked chapter 5 but i do feel like this should've been released alongside chapter 6...honestly i just don't want to wait until 2045 for chapter 7
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>>571828516
I was going back and forth rooms like a retard every time a tree looked particularly suspicious
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>>571828209
>I think it was pretty okay
that's exactly it, the chapter was merely "okay", maybe i set myself up for dissapointment due to hyping it up and was hoping to see some specific things in the chapter, so i basically played myself.

>>571828293
I WAS HOPING TOBY WOULD ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THE FANS HAD
BUT TOBY ONLY ADDED MORE QUESTION MARKS TO THE PILE
i hate to use this phrase to describe my beloved deltarune, but i am of the opinion rn that chappy5 was a speculationslop filler chapter
don't get me wrong i loved the ralsei moments in the chapter and i love alot of the new characters
but i feel that i didn't get the satisfaction of answers or more concrete hints that i was hoping for
also i was hoping asriel would appear this chapter, maybe i played myself by hoping that idk.
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>>571828132
The Knight technically won but it's the same as in Chapter 3 where Susie was making shockwaves every time their blades collided and eventually knocked a chunk out of the Black Knife
If Flowery's stats were fake then he stood literally no chance and still managed to keep up with the Knight and briefly fight it to a standstill
The Knight was not the one who came out of that exchange looking cool
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>>571828437
>Flashback (Reprise)
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Blue is a bad character because they weren't allowed to have any negative or self-deprecating character traits like the other flowers. The one man in a dress character has to be unimpeachable and is thus the most boring one.
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>>571828516
It is in a star walker bird room tho, that's what clued me in.
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>>571828560
I was waiting for train because of you…
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>>571828560
You should feel bad for having interesting concepts in your mind, go to the punishment room NOW
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>>571828435
It reminds me of how Hazbin Hotel fans coped about the leaks to their show being outdated and thrown away.
As in, lMAO, it is happening.
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>>571828435
It's cope but it's good cope.
Suselle has been the de facto doomed-but-canon pairing since the original napkin art of Angel VS Dragon aping Madoka Magicka got shown off.
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>>571828560
It's okay, you were less embarrassing about your idea than basically everyone else who had ideas about what the chapter was going to be like.
Just because Tenna was in fact a TV head man darkner everyone thought they could call the shots on Toby's quirky ass storytelling.
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>>571828618
pay attention next time nigga
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>>571828618
To play Devil's advocate, he's literally the embodiment of integrity.
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noelle is left mind broken and raped after "aborted" weird route and she is supposed to still act like a pure virgin maiden for susie too romance. this is gonna be great
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>literally zero trace of Paps
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>>571828651
There was a small train part with the orange guy but that part of the game was so shitty and boring it's easy to forget about it
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>>571828560
It's okay, trains anon. I forgive you. I also sort of hoped the train thing was real even if I didn't really believe in it because it would've been kinda funny.
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Susie Is out of character In chapter 5 because the prophecy made her that way, you can't change fate.
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>>571828353
Mew Mew is actually into (You) since you're the one doing all the flirting, the party members are just your intermediaries. For time being. Get ready for some HOT vessel-on-vessel action in chapter 7.
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>don't follow fandom hype
>have medium expectations
>have fun with the chapter
I wonned.
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>>571827592
Oh so you're a mentally ill narcissist?
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>>571828618
he doesn’t pay green
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ENJOY THE

FILLER

SEE YOU

LATER
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>Here's your human flowey bro
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>>571828698
CHAPTER 6 FOR SURE
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>>571828287
but it doesnt let you progress the game like an actual game, theyre fucking CRAWLING as slowly as possible and things just happen to you and all the obstacles are artificial as if they were put there just a minute ago instead of naturally being in the game for you to overcome
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>>571828435
I don't know about Susie's but I think Noelle's is certainly self-aware
Suselle stands a high chance of being canon but there's probably going to be some serious issue with their relationship before then
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>>571828698
>Sans realizing he has to keep his brother in captivity again because the plot says so
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>>571828787
>there's probably going to be some serious issue with their relationship before then
There's two chapters left anon, let it go.
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>>571828726
(You) are probably the best match for her being a soul that controls another being
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>>571828770
This guy's schtick probably made a lot of people instantly distrust Flowery
Well, besides the whole Flowey thing
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My only problem with the chapter are the callbacks. They’ve scarred me so bad that when the desert world finally appeared, I felt alive
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there was absolutely nothing about FRIEND like i was hoping but i do like the yellow guy. i like. yellow. everybody should enjoy a lil yellow.
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>>571828435
As a professional fence-sitter I think they might have caught on to something, but its role in the story is probably to just spice up Suselle and add some plot relevant drama to it next chapter, but ultimately Suselle is still the endgame after they work past this at the end

If Toby releases 6 and 7 separately, 6 might give hope to people while 7 shatters it again, especially if the resolution to Kris' involvement is just them fucking dying for being a chud and Susie becomes your main PC

I don't think there's enough to seriously claim Kris has a crush on either of them btw
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>>571828842
Play the game.
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>>571826791
It's established Noelle finds pre-Deltarune Kris offputting despite being her childhood friend, would be a weird one sided romance if it was real, and even more it would be an interesting dynamic to explore, theres way more Susie x Kris content in the game to find
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>>571827057
>>571827270
Why Is Toby so good at making a loli character? Did ZUN teach him?
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>>571828842
Susie is going insane and Noelle's dad is dying if not dead already
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how do i avoid this bitches punch attack
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Kris doesn't want me to see eggman anymore so naturally I will look for the eggman in Chapter 6.
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>>571828878
>plays game
>happy relationship
>???
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Toby made a whole ass chapter just to add this mofo to his dream game
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>>571828921
got the full or is this oc?
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>>571828618
He's a bum who can't even pay back Green 2 bucks
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>>571828921
i suppose it's a very good chapter for fanfiction writers at least
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>>571828878
it's the same shipper who's been seething at every vaguely anti-kriselle post for the past 12+ hours
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>>571828857
I can't believe he didn't tell Kris he would make Susie gargle his balls
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Flowery really strongly reminded me of the Osomatsu-san episodes where they become generic bishies
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>>571828960
it was uploaded this way
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>the only good thing to have come out of the chapter is Noelle going schizo
Grim
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I DON'T WANT TO WAIT A YEAR FOR TOBY TO MAYBE FINALLY OPEN THE MYSTERY BOX AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>571828589
Asriel did show technically up, both in Toriel's dialogue saying "Asriel is 100% going to show up at the end of the game, trust" and later on when Asgore had a flashback. Answering questions at the halfway mark would be an odd choice, he has two whole chapters to decide what he wants to do with characters assuming he isn't lying and hiding that he's been working on chapters 8, 9 and 0 for years in the background while hyping us up about the early stuff in newsletters.

If anything Toby was polite enough to tell people that their theories were in fact, mostly wrong or at best misguided instead of leaving people on the hook for the wrong bait.

Everything he wanted you to know or think about, he just told us about.
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I want him to rape me so bad, that's all I could think about while playing the chapter
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I can't believe the Festival is straight up unimportant to Deltarune.
The secret bosses having different carnival ride motifs was a coincidence.
There's nothing strange or special about the town's festival. It's also unrelated to their religion.
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Has NAUGHTY PLAYER killed Kris then? Is Kris dead? Drownded? Underwatered? Is Noelle trying to find ME?
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>>571828915
That's not an issue with the relationship itself, it's an issue of happenstance. The laziest way to add relationship drama. It's like texting your girlfriend hearts and you didn't know she's at her grandma's funeral. It sucks but it's not anything anyone with a brain should get that upset about.
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>>571828857
>>571828770
yea this was the first thing I thought of when he showed up
was expecting some schizo breakdown not for him to be legitimate in his larp
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Queen saying that every mother's dream is her daughters getting married to each other is a unsubtle hint towards Desselle
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What the heck is Miku doing singing a Mad Mew New song?
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>>571828976
>They're gonna blame my ass for this
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so did the lake suicide pact scene global check actually change anything in the previous chapters or...

>>571829009
bugger
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>>571828932
eat your greens
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Krusiekeks, how are we holding up?
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>>571829041
What carnival rides were eram spammy and gerson wth
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>Kris gains enough strength to desperately swim away from Noelle
>Noelle is holding him trying to get both underwater
>The last thing Kris sees is this face as her hands reach out to his private parts underwater
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I called weird route Kris "the most interesting character in Deltarune" a day before release lol
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>>571828948
Don't you ever dare compare my goat Slayer to this b rate generic anime parody who looks like he crawled out of the amazing world of gumball
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>>571829064
da migu in da deldaroon :DDD
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>>571828932
if it's in the final fight just spam the button
if it's in the normal fight just get good
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I need... new kriselle art
.....
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>>571829041
I bet you didn't think the Sadie Hawkins dance was going to be important for any reason. Nobody ever talks about it.
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>>571829101
>spammy
Did you forget that the fight happens on a roller coaster
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>>571829101
Spamton literally fights you on a roller coaster
The truth is though yes it was breaking down by 3+4. For 3 you had to cope that Eram's arena was like a hall of mirrors, and Gerson you just had the hammer test of strength game. (Though to be fair, such a game actually does show up at the Festival lol)
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>>571829015
is she schizo if she's right?

she's FREE
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Who would win in a fight?
1 crybaby mouse who does 0 damage and constantly complains that people are bulling him
or 1 maus?
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fuck everything i want more battat. please send me back to battat
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>>571829021
>a year
Pup the 6+7 release is not until the 10th anniversary of Deltarune in October 2028
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Guys I ripped myself out of Krises chest and expressed my true feelings to Susie but she screamed and ran in terror? What did I do wrong?
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Noelle will make the roaring look like a joke
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>all theoryfags unequivocally btfo
>anime idol secret boss instead of ERAM/FRIEND shit
how are you guys coping
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>>571828976
>Susie: Pfft.. I can do that better than you, move losers! *drowns faster than Kris and Noelle*
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>>571829041
>The secret bosses having different carnival ride motifs was a coincidence.
anon this is chess theory levels of outdated
>>571829101
spamton is on a roller coaster but this is literally the first time I've ever heard of this "theory" and I've listened to more hours of crackpot schizo deltarune theories than I'd like to admit
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>>571829176
is the crybaby mouse hungry
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>>571829070
It hasn't changed anything in previous chapters yet. This may be why there was always a ton of dummy data for Noelle reacting to items/npcs reacting to Noelle in the chapters where you don't play as her. Timeloop theory is back baby, trust the plan.
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>>571829131
Most interesting corpse.
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Chapter 4
>wow toby is definitely showing that toriel is a horrible mom and is definitely gonna confront her!
>nope kris was fine and just being a retard
Chapter 5
>wow toby is definitely showing that the relationship is bad and susie is gonna confront noelle about it
>.
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FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
WITH HIS HEART IN THE SAND
SO HE STANDS
TO WATCH THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD
FROM A CAN
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The only thing that can cheer me up from chapter 5 sucking so much balls is if E:R comes out with a one hour Legend of Korra review one day after chapter release
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chapter 5 sucked, post charas
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>>571829239
Both the Maus and the crybaby mouse has eaten a wedge of cheese. The crybaby is currently accusing the maus of being a bullied because it had one more nibble then he did.
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>>571829261
Susie still feels weird about the end of chapter 4 so it was definitely not Kris just being weird
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>>571829189
6 will be a seperate release not combined with 7
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>>571829175
She is just on a power trip. She would shoot up her own school because it's more interesting than boring life she led so far.
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I told you Snowgrave was a desperation play...
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>>571829205
We like mew mew and Flowery.
Also… Everyman is stalking the damn out of Pizzapants in every chapter besides 2.
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I'M GONNA GO OMEGA
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>>571829263
>Kris takes on the power of friendship solo and wins
I feel like this is foreshadowing something.
Also I really love this song.
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>>571829243
ah fuck she's gonna be deer homura
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>>571829289
Is that faggot still making videos?
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>>571829263
During this attack I didn't think to swing at him at first and just tried to dodge it a few times before realizing.
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Krusie fags, we have no other option. Time for sloppy seconds *dives into Alphys snatch*
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>yfw the Knight isn't actually Dess, but an amalgam of Kris and Noelle from the Weird Route that timelooped
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>>571829261
Did anyone genuinely think Toriel, the character who for the past decade has been treated as the nigh-paragon of "tries to be a good mother", was secretly a shitty abusive drunk?
She nearly kills Frisk in undertale (and can) which is a lot worse than "oh she partied a bit too hard"
I mean it was definitely a bad thing, both Kris and Susie are upset about it, but anyone thinking it was some big new character arc were retarded
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>>571829324
Oh thank goodness
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>>571829243
>we're back on quantum save cope
I want to believe...
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>>571829324
>at least 6 more months of """discussion""" surrounding this garbage nothingburger chapter
this is the worst possible timeline. kill me
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What if the knight is literally just gaster and we dont recognize him because he lost a bunch of weight?
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>>571829263
Asgore's real, evil child VS Asgore's fake, good child
There's probably a better way to word this but it's a very cool final showdown for the chapter
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Why did Toby rip off Hollow Knight? There’s even entire sections where you pogo off flowers.
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>>571829263
This shit was so dumb. I liked the music but I can't shake the feeling that Toby is just copying his own homework and trying to give us "another Omega Flowey" instead of something truly special
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>>571829297
That's not five wedges of cheese so the crybaby loses
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Honestly how likely would It be that Aqua would cut your dick off If you showed her It? Asking for a friend.
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>>571829347
Homura actually liked the girl she was obsessed with despite being a crazy bitch about it though.
Noelle just likes Susie because she's vaguely like her Sister which is way more fucked up than anything the gay ass anime witch did.
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>>571829125
>>571829015
>>571829153
So like, do you think Noelle Holiday fundamentally fucked in the head and had just been holding it all in until now, or did the ThornRing poison her mind and contort her into this?
Does she hate Hometown deep down on normal route?
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>>571829396
Then call me retarded because I didn't see it coming.
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What if Gaster gained a bunch of weight and looks like No Face in that one scene.
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>>571829015
Man shes ugly as hell here
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Literally the STRONGEST
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>>571829451
bro your weird route plot? she's not infatuated with Susie there that's for sure
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>>571829297
It doesn't really matter, even if the maus wins there is the big sister to worry about
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>>571829432
it ripped off an actually good game and not a shitty dark souls wank fest
ripped off all the tranny shit too
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>>571829385
I'm not going to rule it out because some insane shit is going down but at the same time I don't think Kris would be so slavishly subservient to their own self even if it was time-displaced and Satan
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Goddamn susie is going to FUCKING maul kris to death and eat the organs inside
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>>571828449
I thought people were just exaggerating to be funny, is Toby genuinely on some Ken Levine writing Burial At Sea levels of seething at his own fans over the hat thing?
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>>571829454
This was ABSOLUTELY cooked into her books from the get-go, some of her lines in the monologue are straight-up ripped from normal route dialogue.
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>>571829263
>background cycling through all their colors
sick
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>>571829243
>>571829347
>>571829423
>No data for chapter 1 right now because it would be extremely obvious something is up if she had any data added there
>Post-weird route chapter 7 leads to a bad end with the roaring, but (You) and Noelle survive it because you're out of bounds
>Continue from Chapter 1
>Chapter 1 starts with Noelle volunteering to lead Kris to get the chalk, with the game becoming totally derailed from there as a way to stop the roaring
I would kneel and scream KINO if this happens

>>571829451
>>571829505
Kris/(You) are the homura in this analogy
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What if Gaster has the same amount of weight but is wearing a very tight girdle that gives him more of an hourglass shape?
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>>571829454
Susie gives her a happy clappy sort of escape from her shitty home life and meek personality
PROCEEDING gives her the other type of release where she just goes cuckoo
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Me and my rotting dead corpse friend I nonconsensually parasitize
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Do you guys have anything you want me to look for specifically?
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>>571829528
Adding "Susie being a clueless dumbass" to the long list of shit the previous chapters already did that I did not care to see more of
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>>571829454
She says it herself, girl is deeply disturbed and one bad day from going full joker incel rampage on the town and only gained a single grain of self awareness and motivation to do anything about it after the weird route made her think that Kris is actually as fucked up as she is too which gives her the confidence she needed to just completely lose her marbles.
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Deltarune written by Hans Christian Anderson.
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>>571829518
What’s the tranny thing in Celeste
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>>571829528
She will rape him. It's always the most natural thing whenever a female character has beef with Kris.
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>>571829454
>Does she hate Hometown deep down on normal route?
anon did you miss her entire monologue in chapter 2 where she said "MAN BEING IN THIS SMALL TOWN KIND OF SUCKS I WISH I COULD LEAVE IT"
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>>571829435
It's just the power of friendship trope being turned against us
Which is hardly the first time it's shown up in media, but it hits a bit different in the context of how dubious Kris' hero status is
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>>571829546
Oh yeah, if you play through the chapter Ralsei rages about the hat thing and I am not even exaggerating. 7 separate times, he even has new super angry face sprites when he does it.
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>>571829454
>Does she hate Hometown deep down on normal route?
The ferris wheel scene in Chappy 2 was about how she just wants to "do something crazy" and fly away and that's also what she refers to in this scene
It's definitely heightened because she's losing her damn marbles but she's definitely sick of her life including the town she lives in even without Eldritch Knowledge
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>>571829606
Madeline
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>>571829454
I think the thorn ring was just her breaking point
>>571829594
What if she's just being delusional?
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>five of the flowers are literally just named after their color
>one is an Illusion of Gaia reference
>one is literally 1 letter off from another character's name
I'll be the first to say that the writing in chapter 5 feels like a bad fanfic in general, but this feels like the kind of thing a fanfic would never do. In a way that's hard to put into words.
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>>571829504
>The one person who loves CHADly in the whole town is segregated to a dark dimension that cannot be reopened
Most tragic character in the whole story
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>>571829324
>Another year until chapter 6
It's a tiredness sleep won't fix.. By chapter 10, no one is going to give a shit about deltarune.
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>>571829661
What if Deltarune is just a dream?!???!?!?! woooaoaaaaahhhhhhh
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>>571829606
there's a trans flag on the game complete screen because it was vaguely a self-insert for the author who then became a tranny like a year or two later
I don't remember if they ever explicitly say madeline's trans in the game but I'll take any excuse for more porn of her with badeline
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>the flower that corresponds to the SOUL with a hand-based weapon is literally just a mouse
>Maus turns into a hand in the Mike room
>Noelle says the SOUL could be a mouse, Susie says it could be a severed hand
>Cats and mice are associated
>Puppets and hands are associated
>Puppet/Cat is already an elemental pair
Hand/Mouse is basically confirmed as an elemental pair at this point. Dog/cat/mouse theory stays winning.
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>>571829680
But why does a flower love a bird?
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>>571829680
What do you think Kris has to do for or trade with berdly to get that feather?
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>>571829606
The literal main character lmao i still watch madeline porn tho
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I hope China invades Taiwan soon maybe Toby will release Chapter 6 early that way.
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>>571829706
there isn’t enough badeline porn
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>>571829432
Prson who only watched Boss Baby
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>>571829454
This is True Noelle. The only True Noelle.
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>>571829693
Unfortunately for better or worse I am strapped into the Deltarune ride. Even if it takes 20 years if I am still alive I will still care about Deltarune.
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>>571829592
Everyman, please.
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>>571829669
One flower character randomly being named Seth felt like an Inky, Pinky Blinky, and Clyde situation.
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>>571829693
>By chapter 10
Sorry but it's ending in 2
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>>571829719
If Player is Mouse and Hand, and Kris is Puppet and Cat trying to be a Dog, then who is real Dog
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>>571829669
They give me massive fanfic vibes but they still have enough of Toby's shitposty writing that they feel like they fit in just enough. They honestly feel like Steven Universe characters.
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>>571829693
There's only going to be 7 chapters tourist
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>>571829606
The player character's whole struggle is confirmed to be an allegory for trans identity issues
Really puts into perspective how these people are so lost in the sauce living in a prosperous first world country with no threat of starvation or lack of resources that they have to liken their delusions to insurmountable mountains filled with deadly obstacle courses
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>>571829592
Just anything out of the normal play area that the player would either never or very rarely see
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good morning i still love them
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FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
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>best content in the whole chapter is the skip to endgame that takes 30 minutes if you take the scenic route
you have the gun in my mouth toby, just pull the fucking trigger already
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>>571829832
Toby Fox, master of puppets.
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>Rudy falls over and hurts himself
>Kris hears it and realizes he has to make a fountain to buy time
>when the roaring knight appears it tries to snatch asgore and flee as fast as possible
>visibly struggles against Flowery in the beginning
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What's with the weird route thorn ring equip noise playing when Asgore brings up what happened to Dess
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>>571829849
>he doesn't know about the side B chapters
>or the letter chapters
>not realizing that Deltarune is simply Volume 1 of the story
Your wait is bricked if you think this is the last one.
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>>571829719
>dogs represent the author/fate and slaves to fate
>cats represent freedom/escaping fate
>mice represent (???)
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>>571829832
The dog elemental pair is Dog/God and it belongs only to Toby. The Dreemurrs and Ralsei are pretty dog-coded though.
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>>571829927
Wouldn't there be the entire family looking after him after he fell? How would he be able to sneak out to the other side of the town?
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uh oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3YIPQPqKq0
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>>571829520
>I don't think Kris would be so slavishly subservient to their own self even if it was time-displaced and Satan
Not even if it showed him what the SOUL can and likely will do to him.amd Noelle?
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>>571829927
I just don't buy that he has the strength for that whole theory angle. Rudy can barely get through half a conversation without hacking up a lung.
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>>571829984
porn because one guy commissions a fuck ton of it
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>>571829873
>still doing this tired old ritual post for the old chapters
It's time to move on anon. Post the designated new sexyman with the rest of us.
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>>571829927
Another year of this coping before Susie kicks Dess' helmet off to show her face...
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>kris doesnt interfere if you write in Noelle x Berdly at the festival
>does when you write in Kris x Berdly
lol we can't even throw him a bone anymore like we could in ch2.

By the way does anyone know what the differences if any are doing the festival with cripple berdly or does the narrative just not give a shit about him at all anymore?
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When nearly to the ground floor of the castle you can jump to the right and trace your SOUL to an unlabeled ACT interaction point which reveals FRIEND and everyone takes 100 damage
Other people have reported their hp being reduced to 1 but they were maybe already lower hp
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Looking at Susie retreating to fantasy and whatever the fuck Kris Weird Route is trying to do Gerson starts coming across as kind of a sucky wizened mentor
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>>571829927
it's over man, bet on someone else
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>>571829873
I don't think any of the new (major) characters come close to being as enjoyable as the previous ones. They don't tickle the autism right, you know?
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>>571829984
Mice represent the player who is both trapped in a rat maze of someone else's design and yet completely capable of burrowing into the walls and breaking free. It's in-between.
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>>571829927
>>571830013
>>571830046
>>571830061
Always bet on Papyrus is the knight baby!!
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>>571830013
By the end of the chapter is night, they probably went home. Which is why Kris had to buy time.
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>>571829741
true
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>>571830067
The damage is the sell value of the top item of your inventory.
If you haven't Lost any recruits yet, this means you can tune your HP to a specific value.
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>>571829943
His career took a weird route once he went for a drive in his car after having a beer.
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I NEED A FULL CLOTHED PAIZURI FROM SETH RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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I'm tired of gagshit characters I want QUIRK and CHARM TOBY
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Kris hates the word tsundere but is clearly extremely tsundere towards Berdly
Kris hates anime but their first chu was from an anime catgirl
Much to think about!
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people keep saying that the final chapter of deltarune will be the 7th, but does anybody actually know the source on that? never gotten a straight answer about this for years and i am being dead serious when i say years
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>>571830145
this except I want it from mad mewmew
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>>571830170
he literally gave you a cute and funny character
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>>571830013
I mean, we know Carol is in on it and she could get evertone else to leave
>>571830046
It's almost like this is to intentionally mislead us
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>>571830101
You don't need to cope this publicly and shamelessly.
Everyone loves the new schizos and blorbos and funny tumblr sexymen, it's why they are here in the first place not to hold on to weird nostalgia for the past.
The game warns you about that sort of thing being unhealthy for your mind. If you are not having fun anymore it's time to do something else instead.
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>No favefags of the new characters, maybe a little Flowery faggotry here and there
>Tenna and Spamton were already drowning in fans 24 hours after chapter release
It's over
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>>571830202
it was never hard confirmed, people just assumed based on the save menus even though we have 11 chapter slots for chapters 0 through 10
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>>571826935
/jp/sie here, I'm so fucking happy Toby decided to just add Patchouli Knowledge into the game lol
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>>571830202
Toby said in an interview that's seven chapters
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>>571830202
Only source is the chapter selection screen. Toby fox wants us to believe there will be 7, but you don't have to believe him
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>>571830234
But I had fun with the new chapter
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>>571829669
I think it's because fans tend to be so fixated on patterns that having a pattern-breaking character isn't very fanfic-like.
If the fans wrote every chapter from 3 onward, every main boss would be named after a chess piece, every secret boss would be a little purple and yellow guy experiencing a stage of grief in relation to freedom, and every chapter after 2 would have a carbon copy of the Weird Route with Noelle replaced with a different lightner.
>>571829780
I agree with that partially, but Aqua and Seth are introduced first. It would be like if it was Inky, Clyde, Blinky, Pinky, Dinky, and Thinky. It's weird for the one who breaks the pattern to not be last.
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>>571830261
/utg/ anon here. What is patchouli?
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>>571830261
Patchouli if she was a homestuck
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>>571830170
>it's quirk kino when it's your fave
>it's gagshit when it's somebody else's fave
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>>571830236
>Tenna and Spamton were already drowning in fans 24 hours after chapter release
Tenna most certainly wasn't, I remember coming here next day after Ch 3 release and people were treating Tenna like a failed attempt at another sexyman
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>>571830090
>Hey, kid, I know whatever you're going through is really bad but don't feel like you have to kill yourself over it.
>Oh, you've... got ghosts in your blood and a BPD chick? I'm sorry, I understand. You seemed like a good kid.

>Hey, kid, fate sucks but I think you can read between the lines to find a way to cheat the rules if you stand tall.
>Oh, you're... Gonna immediately go all-in on fulfilling the one part of the prophecy that leads directly to the end of the world as you know it? Sure, I guess. Fuck it, why bother?
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>>571830315
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>>571830236
>>No favefags of the new characters, maybe a little Flowery faggotry here and there
this thread has been (what has been about the game at least) uohing over aqua and talking about fucking seth's disgusting neetslob form
also people here fucking hated tenna in the first 12-24 hours
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>>571830236
flowery is shit for most of his chapter, pic related
give it a few days and more people will be lyricposting FLOWER MAN
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>>571830062
I was chatting with someone and they actually theorize Kris has a legit crush on Susie and maybe doesn't hate Noelle but doesn't want them ending up together so everyone who played through the opening of the chapter setting Susie and Noelle up for a perfect date was just turbo cucking Kris lol
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Why did Toby reuse the suicide joke? Tenna was the one who kills himself, why is yellow also the one who kills himself?
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>>571830202
Deltarune being 7 chapters is like Homestuck being 7 acts
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>>571830236
Flowery was Toby seeing the reaction to Spamton and Tenna and thinking he can do no wrong. The difference is that Flowery starts out as a very jarring overdone parody of anime tropes and it's hard to win the player back from that point unless you're a raging homo
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>>571830340
Yeah that's fair, I'm embellishing a little
>>571830369
Seth is the single ugliest character I've seen so far in the entire game
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>>571830371
>Rip you were always cool
I haven't reached that part yet. It took me like 2 weeks to really come around on tenna as chapter 3 grew on me.
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>>571830380
Does Tenna make any actual suicidal jokes in the game or is this fan osmosis
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>>571830423
>Seth is the single ugliest character I've seen so far in the entire game
I'd maybe even agree, but that specific type of character attracts people a lot
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>>571827113
>>571827141
they them she her
doesn't matter, i'm fucking the purple flower.
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Give me back fucking Tenna you fucking hack you fucking fraud you fucking penny pinching pond-scum.
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>>571830423
ok no Seth isnt ugly and no where near the ugliest in the game
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I liked flowery all the way through why would anybody hate him
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Why did Kris and Noelle drown themselves instead of just using a Warp Whistle? Are they stupid?
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>>571830371
do people have a low tolerance for so-called shitheads or something? flowery was cool. if you hated his solo scenes with ralsei i dont know what to tell you
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>No schizo Ralsei route where you bully them so hard they end up snapping at Flowery and burning the whole place down, causing the whole game to fall apart and go off the rails
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>>571830202
Toby said we were getting chapters 3, 4, and 5 as a bundle.
He can change his mind arbitrarily at any point and spend the next twenty years writing endings for Deltarune until he gets it right if he feels like it.
Even the Hotline Miami guys could say "lol jk" about the nuke that kills everyone and rolls the credits and make a third game if they wanted more money and people would happily give it to them.
The only limit is Toby's time and money and he has plenty of both to spend still.
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>>571830423
>Seth is the single ugliest character I've seen so far in the entire game
Uglier than Blue?
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>>571830384
well we haven't had any intermissions yet and I doubt we're going to have act 6 act 5 act 2 intermission 3
>>571830476
He reeked of "nice guy who turns out to be a villain" since that's most over the top nice guy acts these days, as someone pointed out he looks near identical to that one guy from fnf too
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>>571830315
Patchouli is the librarian of the mansion that you break into and mass murder the residents of in Touhou 6
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>>571830464
sauce please
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>>571830476
MYSTERIOUS WINDS
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>>571830529
Firegrave...
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>>571830515
his solo scenes with ralsei were great, but a lot of people were reading them as "hell yeah Ralsei INCINERATE THAT FUCKING TWINK"
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>>571829424
You can just do what I do and ignore all of the fan theories and discussions after a week and do anything else.
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>>571830568
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=17893715
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>>571830487
The SOUL can only die from magic.
Drowning is not magic.
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>>571830529
I hope this chapter is a tease of what Ralsei is capable of doing.
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I hope they show up in Chapter 7 Side C
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>>571830202
toby said that and currently only 7 spots for chapters are in the menu, however there have been logo images prepared for chapters 0-10 since survey program so only Tobert knows
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This chapter was really bad for the "I'm a furry detective and I'm going to Find Her Dess Deltarune so I fuck her" crowd and apparently really good for the "whoa Flowey uses voice samples that's so wacky haha" crowd
The thing is, chapter 2-4 were able to appeal to both
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>>571830454
Tenna doesn't make an actual jokes about it, but does seem a lot more legitimately suicidal at times which is played off as a joke.
Tenna is more of a manic depressive who doesn't talk about how he is going to kill himself
Yellow seems to understand how to kill himself and attempts to do so but has no emotional feelings about it one way or the other.
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Where WERE Pink's knives
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>>571830458
I think the sprite is almost unreadable at times which really bothers me. Most of the characters look so great it's almost a given, then in comes this ugly fuck
>>571830515
The best parts about Flowery is him bouncing off Ralsei instead of doing his own thing. That's the problem
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>>571830236
Flowery feels a little too attractive in an obvious way.
Toby Fox's conventionally attractive guys like Mettaton, Rouxls, and Swatch tend to be overlooked compared to ones like Sans, Jevil, and Spamton.
Tenna was the first time Toby tried to make a tumblr sexyman and actually succeeded. And I think it's because he included the unconventional element of having a TV for a head.
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why doesn't anyone care kirss tried to open a darkworld in broad daylight , it seemed like they were trying to casually cause the end of the world.
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>>571830060
NO my kokoro doesn't go doki doki for flowery
>>571830101
i like flowery a lot actually, i'll just remain loyal to spamtenna nation for the rest of my days
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>>571830579
I think the scene where he bullies Ralsei in prayer is a lynchpin of both Ralsei and Flowery's characterization but it's optional so there's probably a lot of people who didn't see it
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>"yeah flowery is a good character why would anyone hate him"
-post menu
-permanently hide all posts from this user
-get caphca
-are you really sure you want to do this
-yes
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>>571830650
Aqua stole them
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>>571829669
I'm still trying to figure out if the chapter being super fan servicey but also very unsatisfying is intentional or not
>all six human souls are characters now, maddy's back,"flowey" shows up and you get a pseudo reverse omega flowey where all the souls are against you, we got that ace attorney bit that's been teased for a decade, ralsei's hat is back, the place looks like chapter 1, orange and purple soul modes
>but also sans's don't forget thing just happens with no buildup or payoff, papyrus may just never show up, friend is still just a face in a corner of the screen, onionsan may have fucking died off screen, the last egg is a step back from chapter 3+4's, the weird route just ends, the chapter's ending itself is kinda dour
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>>571830442
Right as I was about to start liking Tenna people starting making bad posts with him attached to it and never stopped.
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>>571830378
Kris absolutely has a crush on Susie, when Susie asks Kris if he liked anyone every response basically confirms Kris likes Susie even if Kris will never say anything verbally.
Suselle's main strength is that it's the sledgehammer that drives home how dire Kris's current state is, his lack of freedom and control, the whole universe is against Kris being able to get what he wants, even if we're helping it doesn't matter.
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>>571830668
anon you know he was in the back of a building right
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>>571830315
She's a character from Touhou 6 the first Touhou game of the series when it made the move to Windows and established a proper setting
She's a librarian magician with Asthma and Anemia (something I noticed Seth definitely has too based on the way she collapses over breathing heavily quite often)
which btw the game she's from is getting an official canon remake this same year in September https://youtu.be/nqqYoJuALtE

There was a LOT of Touhou references in this chapter, I mean the Flower boss theme literally has the ZUNpets in it https://youtu.be/49LSlSEPrXU?t=60 though if I had to say Aqua and Seth are the two most Touhou-like characters compared to the other Flowers
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>>571830716
The Amazing Deltarune Circus
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i miss undertale so much
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>>571830668
Ralsei literally calls Kris out
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>>571830540
>Toby said we were getting chapters 3, 4, and 5 as a bundle
Now that we saw 5, what WAS he thinking with that?
Seeing how 5 wasn't completed back then, maybe it was supposed to have a bit more relevance to the main story back when he had bundle plans, and they only ran free with the filler stuff once it became clear they wouldn't finish it in time for Switch 2
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One thing that confuses the fuck out of me is this
Why did the Knight even go after Asgore? We know they tried to go for Toriel first and failed, but why him? What the fuck is so important about the Dreemurrs that they have to personally snatch them up for?
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>>571830749
no like , when they tried to do it at first and then were interupted by suise.
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>>571830764
I genuinely thought the miniboss theme was a ZUN guest appearance first time I heard it.
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>>571830684
It's gonna be a long wait for chapter 6 if you didn't like him.
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i'm at flowery
did i miss the secret boss?
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Personally I'm excited for Mecha-Flowery to show up to help defeat the evil bad guy in Chapter 7
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>>571827141
kris is for selfinserting
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>>571830687
I genuinely felt bad seeing this cutscene and the mirror inspection text afterwards. Not bad enough to not make them read their brother's cringe love letters and sniff his deodorant though.
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>>571830716
>onionsan may have fucking died off screen
Wait WHAT
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>>571830796
He does? When?
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>>571830716
>sans's don't forget thing just happens with no buildup or payoff
this sucked big time. 10 years of buildup for this. im worried for gaster at this rate
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>>571830015
kriselle shippers can last a year with this, it's fine.
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>>571830874
at the top of the castle?
yes, go back
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>>571830887
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>>571829263
It was kino.
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>>571830908
obviously it was going to be from an innocuous event, what the fuck were you expecting?
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>>571829297
is picrel princess bride?
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>>571830716
For me this chapter confirms that Papyrus WILL show up because the drawing scene makes it clear that UT Sans is specifically from the weird route, therefore Papyrus can appear on the normal route without contradicting UT.
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>>571830814
Toriel was just bait for Undyne
Asgore needed to be silenced
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>>571830887
They serve fried octopus at the festival and Susie makes an onion comment. I think it's obviously a joke but you never know. Not like Onionsan is gonna get any character development or be anything more than a side character
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>>571830874
yes at the cliffs there’s a shop that sells a key for pink coins buy it and go left from the really big room ( the one where susie and ralsei control themselves)
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>>571830887
>>571830948
they're also noted to have a hint of onion which isn't something octopus balls are known to have
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>>571830892
Both Ralsei and Susie put it together pretty easily. Susie questions Kris more directly, Ralsei is immediately aware from the start and so is Flowery but eventually decides to just trust Kris and put faith in the Legend.
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9/10 mysterykino held hostage by a 6/10 love story between Barney the Dinosaur and Rudolph the red nosed reindeer.
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>>571830978
Yep!
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>>571830892
west side castle ralsei/kris hotspring scene
ralsei basically says kris is the hero and has something special about them, citing their ability to play the piano better than just hitting the midi notes, and will follow them to the upmost
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>>571830423
Blue is way uglier.
Seth might be canonically uglier in-universe, but benefits a lot from not having a talksprite that can confirm or deny what they really look like.
Blue is actually just fucking hideous.
Also, why does Blue have a black and white talksprite if he's a darkner?
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>On the next chapter of Deltarune, Noelle and Kris have sex underwater!

-Toby Fox, 2026
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So is freedom motif just dead in the fucking water? Maybe I'm completely retarded but I didn't hear it at all in this chapter. It wasn't in Chapter 3 either. Secret bosses going from Darkners clawing for any modicum of control over their existence like Jevil and Spamton do to just being more or less completely regular fights you're basically expected to do during story progression is so strange.

If freedom motif is present in Chapter 5, please point it out to me. I'm not very musically minded.

>>571830874
If you're actually fighting him, yeah. Go buy the pink key from the shopkeeper with the pink coins you've been collecting throughout the chapter (You DID collect all of them, right? Or at least 10?)
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That's why that fucker is a Goner, he killed fucking Onion-San. Unforgivable. Let him be in limbo forever.
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>>571830814
1. Prophecy says so (Flower man trapped in Asylum)
2. He has the police code for the shelter, same reason it nabbed Undyne
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>>571830908
Bruh
Gaster is literally never going to appear in the game physically and certainly never going to fight you, he's an ARG mystery avatar for Toby and that's it
You're setting yourself up for disappointment
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>>571830997
Is that concrete though? I don't think you need bait for Undyne. I think if you just sent her a letter that said "I'm a criminal fuck you here's my address", she'd show up. That also isn't counting the fountains in the church, which I assume was to find Toriel, otherwise I have no fucking clue.
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>>571831063
I think the love story is six or seven depending on how much Susie becoming detached from reality while reality destroys Noelle's life affects it
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>>571830764
don't forget susie cosplays reimu for a minute
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>>571831101
None of the flowers are Darkners, Flowery spelled that out for us at the end
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>Papyrus WILL show up
Nobody laugh at that post
Don't laugh
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>>571829528
When she finds out she will shatter into a trillion pieces. Actually maybe she won't now that she has Noelle as a support structure.
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>>571831101
plants arent lightners nor darkners
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>>571831006
>>571831119
>pink coins
mmm i only have 3?
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<3
I'm very glad Asgore wasn't treated like a punching bag. That was my one fear.
Uwaaa, I love Papyrus, okay, seeya!
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the remembler
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>>571831101
blue is literally just ishowspeed trying not to laugh
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>>571830973
how is that obvious? i was expecting anything other than "hey lemme DONT FORGET these random people er er er"
>>571831135
when did i say anything about fighting gaster? don't tell me you seriously think gaster is going to just exist as the funny narrator man for the rest of the game
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>>571830716
>onionsan may have fucking died off screen
As a fan, I feel serviced by that.
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>>571831119
>So is freedom motif just dead in the fucking water?
It's called the Battat motif now and it appears in both Mew Mew's theme and the Trashy Trio's theme
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>>571831119
>Maybe I'm completely retarded, but I didn't hear it at all in this chapter.
It's still there, here's a timestamp of it. You might have missed it under the lyrics.
https://youtu.be/tlFnfEWZCtQ?t=119
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>>571831101
they explicitly say the flowers aren't lightners or darkners, they're some nonsense third thing which will be he backbone of all theorycrafting from here to chapter 6
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I found Flowery kinda cool and funny, specifically when he was rage baiting Ralsei. But I still wanted to kill him by the end of the chapter.
Also it was so fucking lame that in the final fight you couldn't actually fight him and Susie and Ralsei kept healing him.
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>>571831189
You didn't explore enough. If you want to fight the secret boss for the shard you need to find at least 10, and if you want to buy the unique (and very good) items after the fight you need to collect all 19.

Turn every stone over and look for hidden routes everywhere. Or just look at the wiki, though that's incomplete.
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Awwwww they look so cute together! Looks like Kruselle bros won after all!
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>>571831202
Asgore got it bad enough with the jokes earlier in the game, I'm glad toby didn't stoop to punching him while he was down and vulnerable.
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>>571830887
I for one think that Onionsan is going to save the drowned Kris and Noelle in the weird route
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>>571831189
hope you activated all the doors go get those coins
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>>571831235
>gaster is going to just exist as the funny narrator man for the rest of the game
Yeah that's about it
He's setting things in motion, not participating in them
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so looking through the game files, I found a script that makes something happens if you wait in bed for a few hours in weird route. anyone tried this yet?
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>>571831189
You need to go hunting, find the pink balls hanging around when you're in the platforming mode and hit them. There's a couple coins you get through other means but those are the main ones.
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>>571830687
Did JP artists draw onions green Kris yet
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>>571831119
it's in the trash trio as a joke and it's in the actual superboss
also all of the ghost's thing around their bodies has always been like that, it was mettaton's entire character and half of dummy's
napstablook is the only one who doesn't give a shit
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>>571831119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFnfEWZCtQ&t=119
Pay attention to the background
Also Mew Mew is a split entity of a Lightner trying to overwrite the will of a Darkner which ties into Kris's story arc which is probably why it gets schizoboss billing
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>>571831164
I will grudgepost you when he shows up in the last light world segment of chapter 7 and says he can't make friends with you like Sans offered because he already befriended your brother last night
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Noelle. Use snowgrave on Onion-San, y'hear.
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>>571831235
It implies Weird is both "the ending" and does something that makes Sans go "oh shit oh fugg papyrus get in the phase distorter"
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>>571831352
nope, you should go for it and post the results anon
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>>571830829
Same, I thought for sure he'd be the guest "bullet programmer" too because Aqua's knives had interesting patterns to them

Speaking of Aqua's kind of a mishmash of a couple 2hus I see some Suwako in terms of the long sleeves and childishness (plus during the Flowery fight her pattern involves you hopping from lilypad to lilypad like a frog), some fanon / ULiL Koishi cause crazy knife girl also with long sleeves https://youtu.be/DE8MCKqd23E , Sakuya in terms of pure knife usage and some Flandre in terms of personality
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>>571831119
The freedom motif has been devalued as is now being used in joke fights.
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>>571831316
>exe fangame makers when they're in a toby fox competition
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>>571831101
Why are LGBT people obsessed with being ugly? No seriously, why? Why are they compelled to put ugly people in their games?
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>>571830515
Lots of people that play video games are undeveloped emotionally and lack the ability to appreciate a character like this.
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I feel like people saying Susie's obsession with the dark world is unhealthy are also setting themselves up for disappointment. There isn't a single moment anything Susie does is portrayed as potentially dangerous post-Ch.1, she'll have a moment of melty when she realizes she needs to give the darkness goodbye but it will he be ok because Light World friends (or worse, Kris bites it and she fucks off with her doe wife). I lost all hope for anything deeper than that.
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who the FUCK is Onion-san??? I only know my FRIEND Umyum
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>>571831414
I still think it will be super funny if sans flees the weird route timeline which also causes the normal route sans to just disappear mid sentence.
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>Aqua tight blue cunny
>Seth fat tits in a sweather
I iunno what to pick
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>>571831258
>>571831382
>>571831435
>>571831240
Wow. That is a very buried and comparatively small snippet of the freedom motif compared to the borderline solo that it got in the Spamton fight and the unmissable take on it in the Gerson fight. Does Toby just hate it now? What the fuck?
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Why is seth called seth and not something like purple?
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>>571831373
>napstablook is the only one who doesn't give a shit
Until the Ruins dummy ghost actually shows up again, I'm just going to believe in my headcanon that Napstablook tried possessing the dummy because they felt left out and there isn't a 4th ghost
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>>571831450
Asgore says "Focusing on the Dark World instead of reality ruined not only my life but also the lives of my children" minutes before the ending where Susie escapes reality to go into the Dark World
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>>571831352
>I found a script that makes something happens if you wait in bed for a few hours in weird route.
as in, actual hours, or in-game hours? Post a pic of the script this could lead somewhere. I feel like waiting 10 or 15 minutes would be the default option for this kind of thing.
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>>571831521
because purple is not a human name Aqua
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>>571831521
why are you called by a name and not brown
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>>571831101
I wanted to torch the Holidays before but wow these guys take the cake just blow these guys into ashes
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>>571831441
Break the conventional standards of attractiveness or some shit
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>>571831441
Ugly people like ugly things. The Gays at least seem to like somewhat attractive characters
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>>571831441
it's a representation thing but like honestly you can have people who don't look like perfect supermodels but still have them look appealing
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>Toby just casually boiled two teenagers to death in shit
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>>571831497
It like the Ralsei hat thing. Fans started liking it and wanted more of it, so toby decides to be a contrarian and gives it to us in a way we didn't want it.
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>>571831521
she was more anal about the human rp than the others
I wanna know who the shopkeeper was
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>"Shalom, Toby."
>"Moshi-moshi, Netanyahu-sensei! Everything is going according to keikaku, I'm about to drop my best Deltarune chapter yet!"
>"I'm afraid there's been a change of plans. You see, the goyim, they deserve to be punished. Release THAT version instead."
>Y-you don't mean, the one with forced yuri and the gay negro and everything..??"
>"Precisely."
>"I guess it can't be helped... Glory to Greater Israel!"
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>>571831497
Mew Mew is schizobossy but not as schizoed out as Jevil and Spamton who had direct contact with Whoever the Fuck has been giving away both Shadow Crystals and knowledge of reality
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>>571831593
The did the needful
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>>571831441
Because if they are more attractive then that particularly fragile audience is IRL then they hate the character out of envy.
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>>571831593
They're swimming in a huge pile of Suselle
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>>571831613
dude it’s Mew Mew after her fight Orange even joins her
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>>571831497
It was just some cool thing for music nerds who pay attention before the youtuber theorycrafting fans caught onto it and turned it into their own thing that had nothing to do with Toby's vision so he dropped it.
Side B is also a cool and hip music reference but his fans are younger than Vinyl Records are so they aren't familiar with music physically having another side to it in addition to the metaphorical differences that come with acoustic versions and covers and songs they didn't think were going to be hits.
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>>571831490
Why choose only one my friend when you could hold one with each arm
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I hear the online consensus is Chapter 5 is a 4.5/10 and filled with trans lesbo shit

Is that true?
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>>571831593
my fucking sides
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>>571831450
I'm not saying every cope is true, but next chapter literally opens into Noelle's entire life falling apart and the first thing Susie is going to do is walk straight up and spill the beans on Dark Worlds to the volatile bitch at risk of losing half of the family she has left.
At best it ends in tragedy for everyone.
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>>571831665
THE SHOPKEEPER WAS MEWMEW?
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>didn't eat the moss trophy
>didn't clear 4rd Sanctuary
>didn't get the climbing trophy
>didn't beat German TopChef's time trial
What other save brickers are there?
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>>571830060
>>571830234
What is this mental illness?
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>>571831521
They literally spell it out for you in the first cutscene where you see the fucker, why do so many people have this question
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>>571831617
>>Y-you don't mean, the one with forced yuri
undertale forces you to get two gay baras to date and then LITERALLY the only way to get the true ending is to have an awkward forced yuri date
I don't know if you people are 100% shitposting or simply retarded
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>>571831441
In my experience, most LGBT people I've known don't like ugliness.
Gay men like attractive men, lesbians like attractive women, and even trans people want to be conventionally attractive by their target gender's standards.
It's allies who are obsessed with ugliness for some reason.
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>>571831713
yeah
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>>571831119
Some people were saying Flower Man sounds as if it tries to start up the freedom motif only to get cut off, but all I can hear in there is Flowey's theme
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>>571831694
No confirmation on the trans, if that is in reference to Ralsei that is complete bullshit regardless of what is being thrown around. Lesbo, absolutely. KrisxSusie is dead in the water and SusiexNoelle stocks have never ever been higher.
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>>571831101
>the decade-old headcanon that the integrity soul was a melanated individual that everybody had for some reason was canonized by toby himself
Considering the sheer amount of fanservice surrounding this particular detail in this chapter, I'd have to tell you this doesn't strike me as all that surprising
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>>571831694
Wherever you read and form your opinions from, keep them to yourself we think chapter 5 was excellent in this house.
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>>571831665
wait really? hot, then there's only one character in the chapter I can fixate on and don't have to split attention
>>571831723
I got to 9 seconds after a few tries and then didn't bother with 8
do you get anything else for it or just more flower bucks
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>>571831613
>>571831665
>>571831713
Wait what?
But that means Toby removed her talking quirk??
HACK!
HACK!
HACK!
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Does anyone have the last clean sprites where Noelle's face becomes deformed as she's drowning Kris?
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>>571831521
Unironically, because Toby Fox wanted to upset your autism.
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>>571831521
Per-Seth-verance
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>>571831694
it's more like 9/10 IMO but yes... lots of faggy shit but that didn't tarnish my experience because I got hand delivered two new favourite characters https://youtu.be/RQsr0_RUMJU
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Why did Susie and Ralsei eat off of greens back in that one scene? Susie I can see it but Ralsei? Normally he is much more proper about these sorts of things.
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>>571831773
I genuinely can't hear Flowey's theme in it at all, I'll have to relisten to it. Meanwhile the freedom motif is clear as day to me.
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>>571831837
She says Enjoy! Enjoy! ENJOY! when you buy something
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>>571831775
Ralsei wants the blue/pink ticket
Toby Fox is online enough to know what absurd red meat that is for trannies
Ralsei is trans now, if you say otherwise you'll get banned off any forum besides 4chan
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>>571831862
fun e
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>>571831830
yeah notice the dialogue when you buy something and you know Orange hanging out with her after the fight
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>>571831837
>But that means Toby removed her talking quirk??
anon she doesn't have here talking quirk for most of the fight
besides you even see in the undertale mewmew fight she kind of drops it a bit when she's 'complete'
>>571831868
I mean I could hear both but they beat you over the head with flowey's theme so hard in that song I half thought I was listening to a fan remix
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>>571831837
He didn't, she still repeats things in triplicate but not as much because she's not pissed off
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>>571831837
No, one of her dialogues has the triple thing, I noticed it and realized she had to be Mew Mew even before the fight
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>46mb update
what happened?
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>>571831895
This is your brain on /v/
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>>571831101
>why does Blue have a black and white talksprite if he's a darkner?
So you can see his ugly monkey face and 100% know he's supposed to be a literal nigger faggot
All part of the humiliation ritual
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>>571831723
Turning off Ralsei
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>>571831895
>Ralsei wants the blue/pink ticket
That is just because his friends (Kris/Susie) is blue and pink respectively.
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>>571831939
supposedly a flowery nerf
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>>571831939
It's the secret good version of the chapter
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>>571831868
a tiny bit of it starts at this part
https://youtu.be/GWf9_qSrnOM?si=dQi3fPr_QKijjX4L&t=84
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>>571831895
normally I would consider this hyperbole but I was literally banned twice for discussing it and arguing against it tonight
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>>571831958
Wait really? He was so much easier then MewMew why would he need a nerf?
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>>571831862
Ralsei is done pretending he'a normal, that's his whole spin in the chapter
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>>571831905
>and you know Orange hanging out with her after the fight
I never went to her after the fight
then again I didn't even go to the cafe either and she's apparently there too
guess I have some work to do before I start my 100% ch 6 prep run since I lost my old one
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>>571831958
For the fight that took me three casual attempts with no real extra effort spent to get good gear?
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>>571831939
Cut the scene where Kris says
>There's no excape, I will rape you.
in the weird route.
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>>571831941
I mean flowery also has a black and white talksprite. Point is they're more lightners than darkners because plants are alive and shit
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yeah ralsei is trans. trans-fered from flowey undertale to ralsei deltarune
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>>571831939
Apparently a bunch of flag values were being set incorrectly if you imported a save from chapter 3 to chapter 4 after the chapter 5 update came out. Don't know why its 46mb but that should be fixed now.
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>>571831694
Eh, I give it a strong 7, light 8/10. I still think chapter 2 is the best one and I'd maybe flip 4 and 5 in the #2 spot depending on my mood. It's a really enjoyable chapter, good comedy, I liked the variety of enemies, really fun schizoboss and final boss, and great gimmicks.
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If Berdly is the FUCKING STRONGEST why did he let Noelle and Kris drown to death, HUH?
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>>571831723
>clear 4rd Sanctuary
Did ANYONE do this? I'm pretty sure 99.9% of players just skipped it even if the game promised more Pippins content if you beat it
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A femmy goat in a pink dress is going to foam at the mouth with anger calling for the death of all darkners.
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Hey speaking of berdly, how come we never got the option to have Kris ride with Berdly?
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>>571832035
>plants in the dark world become sapient humanoids
So what would happen if you brought an animal into the dark world?
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>>571832032
>>571832013
mewmew was a lot easier than flowery, mostly because a lot of the timing/leniency for the timing of the dashing is fucked
or at least it was for me, I died twice against him and did mewmew with relative ease
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>>571832129
One-note shitty joke character is gonna one-note shitty joke character
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>>571831958
>>571832013
>>571832032
>>571832150
>>571831939
flowery confirmed nerfed
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>>571832056
>people only had one day to set up an incorrect import save for later
Everyone's bricked now.
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Does Ralsei like (You) or Kris? What do you think?
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>>571831723
Is there a better climbing trophy than Starwalker because I could only get it down to like 19.something seconds
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>>571832035
I think Flowery's got slightly yellow eyes when he finally opens them near the end
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>>571831980
Oh wow, I missed that entirely, great catch.
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>Mad Mew Mew
fuck this fucking boss and her fucking bombs man.
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>>571832254
yeah I want to fuck her
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>>571832092
I did it...
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>>571832175
>Chapter 5 version 0.0.241
>Version Numbers
>ch1: 1.40
>ch2: 1.46
>ch3: v0.0.098
>ch4: v0.0.098
Why did they change the version number scheme? That damn dog isn't actually going to patch the older chapters with newer content after weird route shenanigans, right?
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What if Susie doesn't actually like Noelle that much but is being peer pressured into it by everyone else? Queen wants her to get with Noelle as well as all the other darkners in (you)town. What if she feels like if she doesn't date Noelle they will get mad at her and stop being her friend?
That must be why she is replacing Kris
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>>571832254
This... is the real power... of troonchads...
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>>571832092
I didn't do it yet because I wanted to get on with the story, but I definitely will in my next replay.
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Just a reminder
Dess is most likely the roaring knight.
And Kris is the silent knight.
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>>571832297
thats only after Susie asks her on a date
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>>571832254
Git gud loser, she even makes it easy on you, you only have to beat 3 phases to win.
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I waited a year for this shit maaaaan
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>>571831868
>>571831980
in memory of Flowery let's listen to the *original theme*
https://youtu.be/VR6TDTSqWDY?t=26
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>>571832175
That is so lame
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>>571832150
The hardest part for me was the bombs being thrown at you as well as those bunny things running by at the same time. Died a bunch there.
I also died a fair amount in the normal bomb throwing minigame but thats because 1. I sucked at first and 2. a good amount of times she threw the bomb onto the circle I was directly occupying causing it to instantly explode.
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>>571832175
This reminds me I had a glitch during the flower pot knight guy. I had completed the spare requirements and the picture had formed but instead of properly sparing an extra round happened and had the spare text overlaid on top of the regular menu text and I had to sit through an extra attack that never actually happened until the fight just ended abruptly. Hardly game breaking or interesting but it was an obvious hang up that wasn't supposed to happen.
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>>571832175
>Modifying your save causes your game to be unplayable
Sounds like toby should have left gigantic Kris in, that sounds funny.
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>>571832280
>red heart shaped speech bubbles
Oh yeah, she wants me
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This chapter feels like Toby decided to spite them for some reason.
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>>571832034
They call him Cory
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>>571832254
>>571832280
>Body absolutely desperate for human cock and/or vagina and to be a cute girl taken care of in highschool
>Don't want to be a slut so refuse
>Get beaten up until >she cums herself and accepts being a horny slut and even takes Kris' first kiss
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>>571832453
Why them? Jockington grew the beard, everything is looking up for him.
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What are the lore implications of scythemare
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>>571832371
fuck you, I hate bomberman
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>>571832394
nta the only problems I had was the bombs and that electric circle one the others have a pattern thats easy to learn
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>>571832453
Thought they were finally going somewhere with Catti but nah
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>>571832346
>roaring knight
*Holy Knight
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>>571832378
it's ma'am
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>>571832310
>>571832280
>Toby pandering to the most boring coomers with le ebin catgirl finally paid off 8 years later on the second go and now /utg/ is going to have unironic Mew Mew fags
Grim...
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>>571832394
I just can't deal with chaos at all.
I find the Roaring Knight with no mantle easier than Jevil.
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>>571832175
I beat him second try and that's only cause my cat demanded my attention midfight during the first try
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>>571832378
yeah toby this was not the fucking chapter to drop a soft release date for after the huge cliffhanger and titan fight
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>>571832528
the first time they had the circle thing I did because I was blind and didn't see that there was a big laser wall if you didn't move up rings fast enough
besides that it's not a hard move
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>>571832150
I disagree, the trick is that Flowery attacks on the flash and you have to dash when you see that, not when he moves. Meanwhile Orange delays the attack and you want to dash when you see her move. Everything else in that fight is really straight forward in my opinion.
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>>571832453
No, those characterfags were simply wrong from the start for looking at everything in chapter 1 and deciding those two were somehow important for any reason.
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I love TV... I miss you so much...
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>>571832472
She wants that Oyakodon special with Kris and Asgore, drawfags please!
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>>571832528
oh yeah sometimes rng could fuck you on those electric circles. Sometimes you get those massive circles with only one safe entrance, but it being blocked by one of those moving guys. But the electric field advances so quickly that you can't wait for the guy to pass. Meaning you either push forward and tank the hit, or wait and also tank a hit.
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>>571832562
hey it's a murderous tsundere catgirl who will make mean faces at you and call you a shithead
>>571832605
I meant the whole mechanic, kept eating shit randomly on pretty much every permutation
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Fat Tenna crying into his bucket of mashed-up TV Dinners. He has been forgotten.
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>>571832562
I admit she's growing on me. This incarnation takes her a bit more seriously than the switch one where it's all just a lark
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Wait does Flowery not have the voicelines that telegraph his attacks if you turn the thing off at the start of the dark world?
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What I don't get is people complaining about the festival. What did you want it to be like then?
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>>571832510
Jevilenergy True and Neo Susie coming to a Chapter 7 Side B near you,
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>>571832562
ive always been a maddiefag and I’ve finally been paid for my worship
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>>571832638
>all we got in normal route was Steven universe rejects and ch1 remixes
I'm sorry for ever shittalking you chapter 3
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>>571832638
Do you see anyone else doing that?
Move on already, it's over.
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>>571832713
They wanted it to be 80% of the chapter and then the Roaring happens after you see Dess or something
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>>571832709
Oh is that what is?
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>>571832713
(retarded) people were expecting some big super important religious holiday that everyone would focus around instead of the laid back stall festival
I could at least vaguely understand people still wanting the big important one but we've known what the festival has looked like for a fair little while now
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Ralsei instantly skipping puzzles, Flowery implying Ralsei has reality warping powers in the Dark World like he does, really ties into the Weird Route.

Isn't this all implying we will need both a Weird Route file and a Normal route file to get the true ending/true final route? Will that let us see in between the lines?
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>>571832713
Not an unskippable long ass horrible writing lesbian fluff scene
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>>571832609
Can you blame them?
>Talksprites
>Toby does nothing but talk up the importance of Kris's classmates
>Tied to Kris's backstory and Hometown
>Catti even has a whole page in the Spamton Sweepstakes
>THE DEMON SUMMONING THAT CONTINUES TO GO UNEXPLAINED BUT REPEATEDLY BROUGHT UP
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>>571832175
>Fixed situation where Kris could be gigantic and the game was unplayable if you had modified your save file in a previous Chapter.
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>>571832713
I wanted to ride with Berdly god damn it
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>>571832713
honestly my main issue with it was how excessive the shipping was
the ONLY redeeming quality is that susie is acting so out of character that it might be a hint considering all of the other things going on in the chapter, but I'm not super optimistic about "he wrote it bad on purpose"
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>>571832507
Total plot irrelevance.

Jockington's plot situation is weird.
Toby mentioned that "He grows a beard" joke as a spoiler back in like 2018.
He thought the joke of a snake growing a beard was so funny he held onto it for that long and even made it part of the prophesy. But its just junk.

Also the line where he says Catti does things for him that he can't (like grow hair) now makes no sense.

Catti's reputation is being assassinated.
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>>571832787
Yeah he says jarona when he's dashing in and calls out orange when she's attacking instead
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>>571832813
>>Toby does nothing but talk up the importance of Kris's classmates
the fuck are you talking about
noelle is important and berdly was important for one chapter 5 years ago
I swear you fags went insane during the wait for chatper 3 and are still pretending like we're going to be fighting another chess piece or that kris is the knight
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Anon, do you hear any leitmotif in this? A guy said that the 'Your Best Friend' beat is in there but I think he's schizo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs7w9kdtx_k
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Kris becoming taller than three inches tall bricks your save...
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>>571832813
The Jockington character is a snake with no limbs that's good at sports so he has the word Jock in his name. Catti is a cat.
These are unserious characters.
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>The next patch (1.05) only contains extremely minor changes, but internally it contains some large code changes, so we will be initially releasing it on a Steam beta branch soon.
Chances of shenanigans being sneaked in?
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my final thoughts on the chapter are that i just feel miserable for kris
kris needs a fucking win or he's going to have a completely valid crashout
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>>571832936
>Birdly the Bird
>Christman Holiday the Reindeer
Come on now.
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Would Asgore have legitimately killed Kris at the midpoint of chapter 5 if it was revealed to him that Kris made the fountain. He seemed pretty aggressive at that point in time.
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>>571831497
Wasn't freedom a relatively small, and very late portion of the Gerson fight?
If I was a wild theory man I'd be guessing that the motif is moving into the backseat more and more as the last two superbosses end up quite satisfied with their lot in life
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>>571832813
Sometimes I feel bad about posting here and then I remember that there are people like this
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>trans allegory character
>soul is in conflict with body
>soul eventually submits to what body wants
>body doesn't yield or compromise at all, only happily accepts soul when it gives in
Serious question, what the fuck did Toby mean by this?
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>>571832936
okay you actually got me for a moment there and I'm upset about it
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>>571832683
I can't say I experienced that myself once I got comfortable with the timings, the only one that gave me consistent grief was Blue/Yellow's bamboo runs, but those do so little damage and they're right at the end of the fight that it didn't matter for me.
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So, why was the field pink and gold?
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>>571832994
i think he would have beaten kris up a bit, but otherwise left him alone because it is highly unlikely that kris was responsibile for the original fountains asgore was investigating due to his age
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>>571832994
no he’d probably just be confused and ask kris what they know though probably hysterically
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>>571832976
>i just feel miserable for kris
I definitely feel more empathy for him now then I did in the pass. He really doesn't deserve to be replaced by noelle like what is happening.
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>>571832985
>berdly the plot device
>holiday the same plot device as berdly
They are almost real characters but point still stands about deeply unserious characters.
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>>571832994
No, Asgore isn't unshakable and he thinks whatever took Dess is the one opening the Fountains.
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Whaaaattt so Flowery is not Flowey? Why is Toby keep blueballing OG Undertale fans?
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See, if it was Doughelle, she would never be able to submerge herself into the water.
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>>571832881
>Toby mentioned that "He grows a beard" joke as a spoiler back in like 2018.
>He thought the joke of a snake growing a beard was so funny he held onto it for that long and even made it part of the prophesy. But its just junk.
I thought the point of making it part of the prophecy was just a joke that even the smallest and most innocuous things are foretold.
Same as Lancer saying "toothpaste" and then "boy".
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>>571833047
gold is an incredibly common color for flowers and especially large swathes of them
pink because sakura and 80% of the world is weeb town
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>>571833020
>seek out girly body
>get surprised when you start feeling girly feelings
>learn to let go of being a chud male and embrace femininity
I dunno chief seems pretty obvious to me
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>>571833047
mew mews pubes
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>>571832034
Bold of you to assume it isn't Noelle doing the raping to Kris
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>>571832976
SCHIZO MEW MEW IS FORESHADOWING THE OPTION OF KRIS AND [YOU] ENEMIES TO LOVERS ARC IN THE PACIFIST RUN
BELIEVE IN THE PLAN
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In the fight against Flowery, Asgore's replacement son, Kris uses the Bravery SOUL Mode
The game over theme of Deltarune is Faint Courage
The Bravery SOUL Color Flower is a monster who wants to be a human
Hmm...! Much to think about!
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>>571832929
The second half of it sounds like it has the same tempo, mmmaaayyybe?
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is deltarune chapter 5 cracked?
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>>571833085
inb4 it is revealed that dess's dessapperance is literally all Kris's fault.
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>>571831674
This
>Insert Chapter 7 Side B
is more influenced by Homestuck than music influence imo. The webcomic used to keep track of the different timelines with disc symbolism.
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Why'd Kris take the seeds
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>>571833191
it's been cracked for a while but you might want to wait for updates
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>>571833072
It really did feel like we got to understand just how fully everyone in this kid's life let him down and continues to do so.
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>>571833150
dummy was already feeling girly feelings, >she says so in the fight
she just didn't like the idea of admitting she had that many girly feelings as opposed to her body which had no filter whatsoever and was content to talk about how much she wanted kris' cock (which she did too, just didn't want to talk about it)
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>>571833120
He could also be making the statement that prophecy and legend is just some random bullshit someone made up and wrote down and not a basis to form your entire life and identity around.
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>>571833081
It's a sequel to a videogame about making friends with spooky skeletons and the creature from the black lagoon, it's not War and Peace.
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did toby fox do anything for toy story or was it a joke post?
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>>571833047
Pink means Love and Gold means Material Fortune
Asgore has neither and the Dark World is a fantasy where he has both
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>>571832056
Fuck. I just did that earlier.
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Why did Kris kill Dess
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>>571832965
>Chances of shenanigans being sneaked in?
Highly unlikely if it's only chapter 5 changes
Very likely if chapters 1-4 get touched up as future groundwork for weird route time travel
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>>571833215
>The webcomic used to keep track of the different timelines with disc symbolism.
The Scratch was used once back when the story was (somewhat) comprehensible and got thrown out the window the second ghosts started being main characters and people had to be DAOOTS
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>>571833310
She flirted with his brother. Should've known better, Azzy belongs to Kris.
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>>571832453
I don't think it's spite. Catti has some flaws, but she's clearly meant to be sympathetic more than anything. I think this is just a low point for her that she'll bounce back from later, like Pizzapants crashing out if he's told the truth.
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>>571833245
>play a game about silly characters doing silly things
>act surprised when the silly character is in fact just a joke character with a joke name and a funny appearance
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Susie wanting to get Noelle involved is of course a part of Kris's miserable existence where they can never, ever Get Lucky but Susie wanting to replace Kris outright is just Kris's self-flagellating paranoid fantasy
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>>571831694
it's a 5/10 max. i liked the platforming because it was actually a good shakeup on the typical deltarune gameplay, but the chapter is rife with problems.

nearly all new characters sucked, terrible ships are given preferential treatment over the best one (krusie), there are random difficulty spikes and badly designed enemies all throughout, literally ALL of the interesting plot developments occur and lore details are told before we even enter the dark world and have ABSOLUTELY ZERO RELEVANCE for the rest of the chapter, most of the potential of having asgore in a dark world is squandered in favor of a literal gary stu meme boss. lore-wise, most of the dark world is spent telling us shit we already knew or could infer about asgore. there just wasn't a point to any of the dark world except to contrive a circumstance where asgore can feasibly get kidnapped for reasons we don't yet know.

if i knew chapter 5 would be as much filler as chapter 3 (except without the payoff of the fucking roaring knight being revealed for the first time) i wouldn't have spent all day playing it. the BEST THING in chapter 5 is the weird route gutting 95% of the chapter and having the most horrifying cutscene in the game thus far.
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>>571833056
>beaten kris up a bit
He freaks the fuck out when he sees Kris hurt even temporarily
There is no world in which Asgore would hit Kris
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>>571833218
I was wondering if that was only if you recruited everyone, has anyone done it without the recruits
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>>571833340
What is this? Homeless susie?
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I have not, and have no intent to play the game myself.

Where characters concerned about where Undyne went?
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>>571832965
Toby would break the fucking game if he messed with previous chapters. It's held together with a spit and shoestring.
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>>571833412
>terrible ships are given preferential treatment over the best one (krusie)
ahahahahahahaha get cucked
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>>571833218
>Chara's Idea
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>>571833393
is this the new toriel is a bad mom self inserting from chapter 4
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Can I back out of the weird route at chapter 5?
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>>571833437
Yeah Napstablook and Alphys
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>>571833020
Maddie just isn't a good trans allegory no matter how much "they" want to claim her. She's previously genderless, full of self-loathing, and she's a fucking ghost which instantly invites 41% wisecracks
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>>571832965
this is from august 2025 and all they've done is upgrade the engine version
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>>571832713
The rides and booths should have been minigames. I don't care if it adds another year to development time.
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>>571833443
Aren't the previous chapters built on older versions of the engine too?
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>>571833412
>reveal at the start of your review that you were only invested in a specific Kris ship
>best part of weird route is that the entire chapter doesn't happen
Well, at least you are honest if nothing else. Looks like this game isn't your speed or reading level.
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>>571833481
You can back out of proceeding into chapter 7 to go back on track, but everything points to it still being a weird route
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>>571833090
Flowery is as damn close as you're gonna get to him to the point of having meta knowledge and his theme song, what did you actually expect him to be?
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>>571833229
I wonder if Deltarune might be useful for explaining Chara's backstory a bit cause if they had a life like this in a human town yeah no wonder you'd want to chuck yourself down a mountain
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I don't remember if I collected eggs in my weird route file, I for sure didn't in my regular save file. Not sure why I got some dialogue about not getting shadow crystals on my regular save when I have all of them on weird route and supposedly they transfer over.
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>>571833090
If you were an "OG Undertale fan" you wouldn't be expecting the reanimated corpse of someone who's literally alive
Faggot larper and ESL to boot
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>>571833490
> literally ALL of the interesting plot developments occur and lore details are told before we even enter the dark world and have ABSOLUTELY ZERO RELEVANCE for the rest of the chapter, most of the potential of having asgore in a dark world is squandered
This pissed me off to no end.
We have perhaps the single most invested character in the entire Dark World mystery and his performance is
>off-screen convo
>off-screen convo
>off-screen convo
>throws your ass out
>off-screen convo
>off-screen convo
>oh shit my kid got hurt, time to speedrun the entire character arc in one flash back
>okay goodbye forever, I have a flight to catch
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Is Seth the sex goddess of this chapter
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>>571833229
Kris creates their own problems by pushing everyone away constantly
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>>571833709
*Kisses you in the lips*
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>>571833436
post wr lake scene if they died I guess
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>>571833686
you forgot to pick them up in castle town
and Aqua is too cutes I'm taking her back home with me honourary /jp/ character if you think about it
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>>571833741
tied with aqua
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>>571833642
>what did you actually expect him to be?
C'mon, you know the answer that guy would say
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>>571833716
I wasn't even surprised after Toriel slept through an entire chapter and Undyne showed up to throw a spear or two and never be seen again.
I've been saying since chapter 2 that this game isn't about the Undertale adults going on dark world adventures, that simply isn't the point of the story.
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>>571833240
I don't think having even the smallest details be true is a good way to send that message.
Jockington doesn't even know that he's preordained to grow a beard, but he does anyway.
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I don't think Flowery is a failed sexyman necessarily, I don't think that was the point. I feel like Flowery was meant to piss you off and feel like a failure of a sexyman who would only appeal to Asgore and make you wish you could kill him, and then you'd get sort of cool with him and interested in his whole deal as he went from being a gag character to actually trying to make a point to Ralsei so that when Papyrus came around and actually did the deed it'd feel extremely bittersweet.
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>>571833741
Despite everything I can't imagine Seth being good at sex
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>>571833229
I want to save him...
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>>571833849
Despite everything, I'm still hard
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>>571833839
That's obviously the point. Whether the dog succeeded is up to you thought.
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>>571833436
Susie post drowning
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>>571833412
I take it back having the weird route is better than genocide because it brings out the true mental illness patients like you see here
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>>571833849
even better
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So does ERAM want Kris to Go Into the Water or what
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>>571833229
>Dad gives into despair, leading to a divorce
>Mom is a loving but uninvolved drunk
>Family friend becomes a family acquaintance after said divorce
>Also a older childhood friend goes missing which is the catalyst for your father giving into despair
>Possessed by some otherworldly entity for possibly years and literally NO ONE notices that you are a backseat driver in your own body
Yeah.
I don't know what kind of Adult Kris is going to grow into, but it will not be a pretty picture.
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>>571833839
You get it
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At this point the only thing that'll make me forgive Toby for his lesbians cucking the player and MC fetish is Kris going on a date with princess Ralsei and I'm not kidding.
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>>571833849
Seth would be good at full cosplay star trek convention hotel sex with roleplay and lines delivered in proper klingon but not like, regular person sex.
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>>571833778
I did pick one up at the left of castle town, I guess it might have been all 4 I had and it just doesn't say the count?
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>>571833548
>you were only invested in a specific Kris ship
not even true, i just have enough taste to not care about suselle or justice/integrity
>best part of weird route is that the entire chapter doesn't happen
yeah pretty fucking much. the lake scene being genuinely the best writing in the game so far is nice too though.
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>>571833953
>Kris
>Grow
I'm struggling to see an ending Kris survives at the end of this whole bullshit.
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Finished it, gameplay wise it was 10/10 loved the new "perspective" gimmick, also the dashes were really fun, wish we had something harder on it.

I sorta saw this being "filler" since Ralsei was missing a character development chapter, and this was the only one that could have worked.

The secret boss was kinda whatever but fun to do.

While I am not a chud, some things felt too on the nose (one of the diner scenes literally has all the flowers cheering Seth and telling them it's ok if they are a boy or a girl) which I guess it was lessened by the punchline, but still.

Weird route was nausea inducing in a good way, I cannot help but feed horribly for Susie, her only friend is just like this, it was so subtle but before going to the beach when she goes "I had fun..." was so simply but it devastated me emotionally.

Overall, a solid 7.5/10 looking around for anything I may have missed now
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>>571833975
With how Ralsei acted this chapter I'm convinced Kris would wind up being the bottom in that relationship even if Ralsei was a pretty princess
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>>571833839
Well of course, the first impression was blatantly meant to be obnoxious, not likeable, from how his first actions were to repeatedly try to shove you and Ralsei out of Asgore's sight
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>>571833849
won't matter much, she just needs to lie down and let me do the work
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>>571834062
>>571833975
Kris is a service top, this has been known since chapter 1
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How the fuck is Homestuck still on Toby's mind after all these years?
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>>571833340
Worse part is see saw and KNEW something was wrong with Kris that day, imagine all of the "what if" scenario's that are going through her head. All the things she could have said or done to avoid them drowning.
Toriel is probably doing the same thing, after all she noticed and the only thing she did was set out some toast on the table that Kris didn't even eat. Just sitting there reading her book as Kris drowns in the lake.
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/utg/ sings Flower Man never btw
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>>571834018
Between the seeds and, y'know, it's pretty clear that in Normal and Weird route there is no happy ending for Kris.
The most charitable interpretation is that he knows what's coming and he wants a way out at the end.
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>>571834143
Those two don't really care about Kris.
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>>571833863
He's in good hands now. Forever.
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Ralsei is a shameshifter, him being trans makes no sense because in a snap he could give himself Dcups and a vagina if he wanted.
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>>571834062
>>571834108
I don't care as long as it's sincere and not meanspirited like the constant shit the light world throws Kris and Berdly's way with being disrespected by both Susie and Noelle as a blatant third wheel forced tag along. I just want Kris to have a win. I'll take Tranny Ralsei tradwife princess at this point.
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I'm thinking that the Chapter 7 Side B party is going to be Kris, Noelle and Ralsei who just appears out of nowhere like usual and really hopes that you know what you're doing
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TOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS CHAPTER TOBY
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>>571834253
KEK
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>>571834226
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>>571834063
I laughed when he did the "how to talk to short people" pose to Ralsei. Reminded me of some old fanart of Asriel acting in a similar condescending way.
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>>571834124
You would understand if you were there for Homestuck.
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>>571834226
>A shape shifter being trans makes no sense
Are you... Stupid? Being a shape shifter just makes being trans easier. Trans people pay thousands in medicine and surgery to shape shift. Many would kill for this ability. All this does is make Ralsei 's barriers psychological and not physical. Which is the point.
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>KRIS, SAY IT LOUDER
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So this "old Dark Would" what are we thinking? I assume it's the bunker
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Did anyone get the headpats from the special colored pippins?
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>>571834186
Dess's murderer won't get a happy ending.
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>>571834225
I was about to complain about how artists are forgetting Noelles bucktooth, but I can't complain because toby ALSO forgot about noelles buck tooth.
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>>571834308
shit boiling in a pot of kris
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>>571834253
Holy shit
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>>571834253
yup i knew the new chapter would bring in the schizos
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>>571834226
I can see why Toby removed the pills from Noelle's cyberbedroom if this is how the 'fandom' reacted to "Hey! Look! This dude invented a false persona to fit into the prophecy, and it's falling apart at first scrutiny!"
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>>571834336
The mother of all rape faces
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Ralsei so ANGRY with Flowery he stress eats several cakes hahaaaa
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>>571834360
>Noelle takes her anti-anxiety meds
>Alphys witnessing this, and writing trans fanfiction about her student
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>>571834253
This is funny but I can assure you that Steven Universe was on a whole different level of theory bait and characters singing and crying and promises of big lore payoff.
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Did I understand right that Kris is seething at Suselle happening?
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>>571834310
IIRC there was a Dark World in the Library as well so I'm starting to believe in the events of Deltarune being a second or nth cycle of the Prophecy
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>>571834424
Yep, good on you for being able to read between the lines. Half of the fans of this game can't.
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>>571834423
Susie is somehow more oblivious and allergic to understanding what's going on than Steven
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>>571834424
The kid is reduced to a stuttering, choking mess multiple times because of it, yes.
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>>571834124
because everything post Game Over was unsatisfying and he can probably do it better
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>>571834449
If its a cycle, and the prophecy is always correct and predicts things with perfect accuracy. Why should anyone even worry about the roaring? After all, if this is a cycle and we know the roaring hasn't happened yet then we know the fun gang will win in the end.
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>>571834424
They know it's pointless to be mad because of Prophecy and Evil Knight Plan bullshit means they never had a chance with either of the two but they're still a little mad
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someone should have told Toby that people dont want to play a 2D side scroller in their RPG
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>>571834462
>zombified
>cucked
>controlled
>drowned in shit
The LEAST you get for shoving me in the trash can, friend.
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>>571834424
If Kris is shown as a weirdo silently in love with Noelle in the normal route with it having plot relevance, it could be kino
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>>571834307
>the goat literally nobody has ever interacted with before the adventure and has NO SOCIAL PRESSURES to be male has PSYCHOLOGICAL BARRIERS to changing their gender

Yeah, I actually do think Toby is so bad at writing he would do this.
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>>571834541
Wait are people complaining about that? Sure I liked how they normally moved around but I thought that it was an interesting change of pace that didnt overstay its welcome.
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hmm... noelle wants to grow wings
in doing so she and kris have transcended beyond the borders of their reality...
you know who else has wings? the angel
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so are we calling it side b or the weird route?
which way we goin?
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>>571834541
>Oh, hey, wow, that looked really cool!
>Okay, that was really novel, I liked that.
>Oh. This is just Bad Hollow Knight.
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>>571834601
Weird route. Grandfather Clause
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>>571834541
I do but only if it appropriately references lisa the doleless several times in the process
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>>571834541
I think the boat on the rpg thing has fully sailed. You will play your twitch reaction minigame collection (with rpg elements) and you will like it. Tobias Fox fucking HATES the very idea of grinding for stats.
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>>571834601
Still mad we stopped calling it Snowgrave route, I know the reasoning but Snowgrave sounded more metal
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>>571834569
Ralsei has expectations from the prophecy. Which is synonymous with religion. That is the whole point of chapter 4.
I don't see why you think this is bad writing. This is just religious trauma repressing self expression stuff. It's a trope as old as time.
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At this point I think Susie could just barge into Rudy's funeral in chapter 6 and tell tell Noelle to blow this joint and come play pretend
She would make pic related face and agree and then Rudy would never be acknowledged by the script again
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>>571834601
It's always been B-Side in the code, Weird Route is the name for the flags in Chapter 2.
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>>571834584
It did overstay its welcome. I thought it was really cool at first but that doesn't mean I wanna do the same shit for 4 hours straight
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Ralsei was supposed to be the most miserable character but it seems not being evil or a retard brings you less misery.
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>>571834124
Once you hit his age you start thinking about what you were doing around 16-24 a lot even if you are wildly successful and famous like he is. He probably feels more like his cringe lolrandom Radiation character than he does this weird Mr. Fox persona he uses as a mask to help keep internet weirdos from stalking him.
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>>571834526
"This is [Made in Heaven]!"
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>>571834584
I disagree, it greatly overstayed its welcome and I fear it will return next chapter
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>>571834685
That's fucking stupid writing
Susie gets to call herself King and she's still the girl and doesn't care
That just makes Ralsei a fucking imbecile who could've been a girl and a Prince all along and nobody would've cared
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>>571834708
what the fuck
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I've never played a single Touhou game.
Can any Touhou fans tell me if playing them made this chapter good?
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>>571834708
Even Toby knew that his worst fans were about to get washed away in the knowledge the new chapter brought. The move on line isn't for us, it's for anyone who didn't like what they saw and will walk away in the coming weeks.
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>>571831694
It's a 7.5 from me.
Funny with really good gameplay but as a filler (positive) chapter it does lose a couple of marks.
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Sorry for Weird Progressing.
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>>571834734
The point is that Ralsei is being stupid in a way that a lot of people are. Feeling trapped into a pre existing status quo despite an accepting environment. The character development is to not be stupid. A lot of people are stupid.
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>>571834708
How long did it take her to smile?
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>>571834732
>I fear it will return next chapter
It almost certainly will if the stupid climbing mechanic has
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>>571834802
Seth is a dead ringer for Patchouli and there are some ZUNpets but that's about it.
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>>571834708
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At least the TV gets a happy ending.
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>>571834838
I don't think a "this character was just being stupid all along" is very compelling writing. It makes sense when you're in an enviroment that drove you to such decisions but here Ralsei is just stupid in a way he never had to be.
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After a day I don't think I hate the chapter but it has confirmed the problems of toby dragging things out
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>>571834685
>wants to break the prophesy

>only requirement to fulfilling the prophesy is being a "prince" of the dark

>have total control over your body and how you represent yourself, because you're a fucking shapeshifter and nobody has ever met you before or have put society expectations on you

>choose to fulfill the prophesy by being the prince

So you're saying Ralsei is retarded and this is crap writing. Sheesh, this chapter makes Resident Evil look like Shakespeare in comparison. But my fault in thinking a video game could have a good story.
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not sure why people are mad at the significant lack of lore in this chapter, didn't he stated that chapter 5 will be the last adventure before things get serious? i liked that he implemented even more gameplay mechanics that might potentially be used in chapter 6-7
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Tenna will be purchased by a fat retro gamer loser who thinks CRTs (useless old junk) are worth thousands of dollars.
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>>571832453
You say this every chapter even though it should've become abundantly clear by chapter 3 they are not and are never going to be major characters
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>>571834708
I didn't think moving on meant literally moving on two chapters
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>>571834307
>>571834569
I think we're looking at it the wrong way. Ralsei isn't male because he felt like contrived by the prophecy but whatever the fuck was the force that made him into an Asriel OC.
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I'm a little disappointed that the mysterious shopkeeper wound up being a Mad Mew Mew schizo boss and not something related to the kitsunes you fight
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>>571834697
Rudy didn't die.
Toby does this kind of fake-out almost every chapter, you would think the fandom would recognize how Toby tricks the player
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>>571834940
Yeah, and as I said earlier, we were missing a "Ralsei character development chapter" and of course they cannot do that shit on Chapter 6.
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>>571834946
Why was Noelle so upset about Kris giving Tenna away?
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>ralsei development chapter
>its just shit we already know about ralsei
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>>571834985
>the dying old man who has been hospitalized the entire game is doing a funny end of chapter fake out
Chapter 6 is going to cold open on his funeral.
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>>571832927
Classmate in dark world is great because it ties reality and fiction and they have more history with the cast than theese 7 clones of existing characters have.
chapter 3 should've had noelle interact with tenna and be in chapter 4 church dark world because she is pious.
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>>571834940
Him stating it doesn't make it less worse and because there's no "to be continued in 2027" means we will sit on this dungheap of a chapter for at least 2 years.
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>>571835056
One of Noelle's things is hoping that things can still go back to the way they were and Tenna is a part of the way things were
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>>571834985
They even hit us with the "fallen down" wording from UT.
It's obviously setup for a hospital darkworld.
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>>571835023
Yeah, cheers Eram. I'LL win. They WILL be together. So sayeth ME.
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>>571834541
It was fun and you fuckers would shit porch lights trying to play through chapter 4 slogclimb segments
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>>571835112
oh yeah the whole ice/frozen in time thing her families got going on.
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qrd why is susie homeless now?
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>>571835114
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is an obvious setup with Toby anymore.
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>>571834319
It would've been manslaughter at worst
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>>571835202
No she has 2 houaes but prefers the dark world ome
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>>571834937
You were almost a Ralsei sandwich
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I’m scared of whatever omega tryhard secret boss is at the end of the weird route
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>>571835114
I'm thinking Rudy at home in hospice care
We have to do the Holiday House Dark World at some point but it's not really final dungeon material
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But what was the point of this chapter. What was explained here that couldn't be explained in one that also revealed more info on Dess and he Bunker and Asriel.
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>>571835202
She's not, she lives in the furthest right apartment block in hometown. She tells you when you walk her home "That's not what I meant"
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>>571835202
She fell for the thing the flowers were trying to do with asgore
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>>571835202
She's not homeless, she's just chosen to sleep in castletown the past 2 nights because, well it's left up to your own imagination why she'd choose that.
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>Insert chapter 7 side B
This some fucking Uchikoshi shit. Holy fucking damn.
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>>571834662
Toby should drop RPG elements altogether and turn last two chapters into a VN.
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>>571835114
>hospital darkworld

>Susie: "We could... try opening a fountain in the hospital! To try and help!"
>Susie: "But wait, wasn't Ralsei not able to heal Flowery?"
>Susie: "I guess... it just doesn't quite work that way. Not on things like this."
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didn't expect picrel to be canon and relevant.
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At least the TV got a happy ending.
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>>571834226
>shameshifter
Sounds like a name for a quirky Toby enemy! What does it do?
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>>571835270
There was no point. It's a filler chapter
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how do you dodge this shit
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>>571834234
>>571833975
based anons knowing that faggy ""men"" are better off as girls
foids can't even be cute properly most of the time
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She's not homeless. She has a broom closet. That's a home. Do you know how many Hong Kongers would die for a broom closet?
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>>571835202
It's explained that her home life is pretty rough in the spinoff movie about her made in the 1980s called "The Breakfast Club"
You gotta view the supplemental materials.
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>Chapter 6: Holiday Manor Dark World
>Rudy is in it and seems fine and healthy
>When you seal the fountain you find out Rudy has already died
>Noelle has an epic crash out
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>>571835307
have you never played cd games before bornyesterdayfag?
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>>571835336
git gud
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>>571835325
Face down on the ground of the flower king shop?
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>>571834541
I do, it lets you have more proactive gameplay when needed but also more depth and quirky story when it's back to RPG stuff
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>>571834618
>>Oh. This is just Bad Hollow Knight.
do zoomers only know one video games
I swear hollow knight fags are some of the most insufferably people on the planet
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Floradinn has strong opinions about flowers.
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>>571834186
oh I thought the seeds were going to be used to like reluctantly poison Susie or Noelle... I never even considered Kris is going full Chara
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>>571835336
So when the bombs explode they do a + shaped explosion right? What I did was, wherever the soul was, look for any bombs in a + grid around you. If there aren’t any, the soul is in a safe spot. Obviously it becomes so fast sometimes it’s hard to avoid all damage but just bring enough healing items to deal with that
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*wakes up* oh my god is it over? have the tourists left and we can talk about the chapter normally now?
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>>571834662
Good. You have dozens of formulaic JRPGs, don't turn DR into one more.
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>>571835525
RADIATION IS IN CONTROL
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>>571835412
Not him but both my multi disc PS1 games and PC installation CDs for like, Diablo 2 are numbered.
You want to know what's on Side B of a CD?
The label.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9lPxsA62Us
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what does this mean?
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Chapter 5 Weird Route
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzQiQ1pVlN8&t=39
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>>571835087
yea, they could have had noelle more
that person wasn't asking for noelle, they wanted rpg party member jockington
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>>571834673
I still call it Snowgrave in my backup save files
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What is Suselle endgame now?
Will Noelle drag Susie out of escapism, Susie schizofying Noelle?
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>>571834802
It made the whole chapter super giggle inducing. Made Aqua and Seth 20x better but they already seem like top tier characters so...
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I cannot BELIEVE tobias would purposefully scorn the incredibly deep and nuanced character Fuku Fire
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>>571835617
it means you fucked your game up so bad your ass is gonna have to wait until two entire chapters release to keep playing
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>>571835202
its pretty obvious she has a real home, but the situation at home must suck
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>>571835694
Noelle will ground Susie, Susie will give Noelle enough fantasy to survive reality, Kris will be the woke dog (cat)
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>>571835236
I want to think Toby will not do that just because he learned his lesson from Genocide Sans being like way too popular that it completely defeated the point of the fight but then again UT fans defeated the point of the game by railroading everyone onto like two routes
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>>571835694
Noelle recruitment goes bad, crashout dark world happens, huge fight and prophecy/traitor reveal, whoever survives is your Shelter party.
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The fact Weird route is still following a chapter system implies Chapter 7 will be in the place where the singing is, doesn't it? Because they will presumably be set in the same place. Weird or Normal.
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>>571835780
Kris will press billions must die button tho
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That homewrecker Noelle used to annoy the shit out of me, but I don't care anyone and I've acted as the perfect wingman during their date since she and Susie are obviously smitten for each other, there's no point fighting it, what Susie wants is more important.
Ralsei's bussy is good enough anyway.
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>>571835694
>Will Noelle drag Susie out of escapism
even in the normal route Noelle isn't exactly a beacon of stability
though they'll likely mellow eachother out
and kris is their weird dog who sometimes fucks the mannequin wearing a catgirl outfit
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>>571835831
Not mutually exclusive with being a woke dog (cat)
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>>571835617
I guess anything that would have come after that wouldn't make sense for someone who hasn't finished the 'normal game', so you have to finish the normal game first.
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so how do I beat the pastry's dude challenge in 8 fucking seconds
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>>571835840
Susie is the hero so whatever Susie says goes
this has been one of the most consistent things happening in the game since the first five minutes of chapter 1
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>>571835613
you're right. videogame disks are rarely flippable. I was thinking red alert but I mis remembered and it was actually two separate disks for the faction campaigns. It's just fun poking at the younguns who never knew about flippable disks. I took for granted how obvious that ending was with the crt filter and warp but surprisingly a lot of people doesn't know what side b meant.
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Do you think Flowery’s fate was Toby foreshadowing that a full pacifist route save isn’t enough to change the ending?
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>>571835940
I got it in 9, dunno if you can do it in 8
maybe some more optimization in arcs and dropping down
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I know this is probably just a schizo moment, but considering the fact that the sideb stuff has now reached the "permanent" thing (it saves that you did the lake thing even if you delete your save files afaik), has anyone tried going to earlier chapters to see if any details have changed Undertale genocide route-style?
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>>571835940
use rude buster on one of the things before the timer even starts
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>>571835940
Go in a counterclockwise circle, try to hit as many targets as you can while launching yourself
Apparently Susie's Rude Buster can hit them but I didn't try that
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What is on the other side of the lake?
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>>571836045
seeing what changes in code may be even more easier than replaying the entire chapters
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>>571835940
it's not worth it
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>>571836092
True. Maybe I'll try to do that
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>>571836036
>Kris, the clever little sneak with pawns but no true friends, defeats Flowery who's Power of Friendshipmaxxing
I doubt we're getting a "you have to be EVIL and FUCKED UP to win" ending but there's something going on in that vein
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Ok but what the fuck happened in Aborted Weird Route?
Noelle was talking over the Normal Route scenes in disappointment and it's impossible the same thing happened back on track because later dialogue and changes show something changed. We technically didn't get to see her leaving.
Did Weird Noelle fall in between timelines in the Aborted save?
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How will the universal flooding theme develops?
If Ralsei let Susie remain at PlayerTown even if he feels not real makes me think that the only people that will survive the roaring are whoever stay at PlayerTown
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>>571836071
The meat factory
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God you guys take forever to bake
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>>571835968
I've seen flippable discs maybe once in my life and it was for some random ass TV/film release I think and it was probably just the bonus features or what have you.
Physical media is rad, I remember Guild Wars 2 being the last PC game I bought the old way in person at a local dedicated video game store with a product key in the manual and everything because it took me about three years of having a steam account for it to just become the default option.
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If Ralsei keeps hiding things from ME.... I'm gonna get a little cooky shall we say.
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>>571836176
Aborted weird route crafting the thorn ring will lead to the good ending fags stay winning.
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>>571836285
We're in rush hour now so we might as well wait for the thread to go to 10 before baking a new one
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>>571836201
I got the same feeling from the whole "Nothing changed." thing, it feels like the Aborted Weird Route is implying that Noelle is aware of multiple timelines somehow (maybe dreams?)
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>>571836285
>page 8
Eat shit!
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>>571836231
Damn, I never thought about that but you're probably right PlayerTown is going to be used as the actual shelter for the survivors of the Roaring to try and fix it
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*tugs on your sleeve* utg friends... *hangs head* i don't want to fatten up any of the flowers... *cries*
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Did the flowers really needs 5 pages of extra scenes in the diner if they already had more screentime than every other chapter gremlin combined?
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>>571836045
>>571836092
there is nothing present in the whole game that's using that global flag yet, it's only written so far
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>>571831839
It's the same face she makes when she says Kris has changed. The effects make it look deformed
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>>571836071
I'm guessing literally nothing. Kris and Dess went out of bounds and found out they were video game characters.
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I know you haven't liked people saying they preferred hatted Ralsei since chapter 2 but do you really have to bring it up every 3 rooms, toby?
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Do you think Toby is just angry that Spamtenna was more popular in the first couple months than Suselle was over 7 years?
And that's why he pushed Suselle so hard? Especially with the Kris cuck lines that seem to be almost a direct counter to the "Noelle will watch from the chair" meme.
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>>571836350
None of them seem fattenupable.
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Susie is 100% getting blamed for Kris and Noelle doing a wrong warp isn't she
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was susie molested?
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So a second dark fountain was opened, but there was no Titan?
I assume the only way this could've happened is for the second one to open somewhere else in the building that was unaffected by the first, but the whole shop was enveloped in dark, wasn't it?
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>>571835613
have you slept at all doomer?
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you at LEAST full combo'd 4rd sanctuary on Normal... right, anon?
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>>571832638
An italian girl made this
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>>571836441
>Toby is just angry that Spamtenna was more popular
Toby is the #1 Spamtenna fan so no. He is pushing hard for Suselle though but I think it's because it's building up to Susie's dramatic breakdown and chapter 6 low point.
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>>571836285
Why aren't you baking? scared of the captcha?
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If anything we got lore wise that was neat is that the "super attacks" enemies do are called Omega's.
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>>571836390
He's supposed to have planned the story in advance
Not everything is a reaction
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>>571836531
What's that supposed to mean?
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>>571836390
Even the "Do you still think I'm cute?" line from the ribbon being equipped to him feels like it was directly ripped from fan art toby personally saved to his computer or something.
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>>571836441
I doubt it, either there's something intentional going on or Toby really is tripling down on hamfisted romance because his plot demands it.
It does stick out like a sore thumb that we had the "HEY TELL THE PROPHECY TO GO FUCK ITSELF" chapter right before they spend an entire chapter all but ensuring part of it goes off.
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>>571836390
It's obvious fandom's words get to him. Toby sometimes has fits during which he falls on the floor, twitches uncontrollably and repeats "HATTED RALSEI! HATTED RALSEI! HATTED RALSEI!"
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Something I found really sweet in this chapter was Alvin being so cool about the church being messed up. He totally knows Susie did it but he's very generous about it and actually takes the note she left for him on board and seems genuinely touched by it.
I really thought Susie would get shit for it but it was just chill.
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>>571836565
"butch" tomboy who wears no hair ribbons when a beautiful anime man tells her to do that be like
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>>571836573
Only the flowers because haha funny flowey reference.
Is it me or did the way characters talk here border on incomprehensible? It works for Spamton because he was glitched the fuck out but every enemy here says shit like "the world revolves around OMEGA JUSTICE 1997 still the best". Was it a manga translation joke?
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>>571834253
Lmao
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>>571836531
why do italians like tenna so much-
>https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenna_(comune)
Oh
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>>571836071
forklift licensing agency
noelle heard you can get mad doe if you don't mind the 12 hour shifts
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>>571836354
It makes the final boss battle against them more impactful.
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Aqua and Seth should kiss!
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>>571834253
by god you're right
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>>571836579
Fuck this was meant for >>571836441
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So /utg/

Voice clips on or off?
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>>571836638
True!
I just wish we could've grilled him about why he had Gerson's remains at all but I guess there's still time
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>>571836754
Ralsei___ Off
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The player being literally the deltarune (the rune of change or something) makes sense if you see noell ein the weird route being a schizo about changing
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>>571836375
The Carolfication of Noelle
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im retarded and can no longer tell what feels like 'in character' behavior for susie and it makes me want to kms who are you purple dinosaur
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>>571836696
He acts a lot like Italian show hosts with the manic energy, so there's that.
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>>571836754
Do you have to turn them off for that one section? I just turned them back on since half the time it was dialogue bleeps anyway
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>>571836754
On, I like an immersive experience and the game changing things up
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>>571836808
she patted her vagina when she said "girl"
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I'll sleep when I'm dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQKuXhpC7g
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>>571836441
Everyone loved doomed yaoi, and Suselle is basically the opposite. Pre-ordained yuri. Of course it's not as popular as he hoped.
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A good rule of thumb with gay/lesbian romance stories is try to imagine it as hetslop.

If its suddenly boring it means its bad
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Isn't it crazy that these are in the same game and the same chapter even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWf9_qSrnOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW3ZGROFfmw
What is the dog on to pull this off
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>>571836782
What does that do by the way?

>>571836797
She's a tropey one note character who becomes a zero note lesbian after canonization of a ship cracks her exterior. See Amity Blight, Peridot, Catra for more information.
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So mewmew is like, have darkner now, right?
Lightner ghost in a dark world possessing a mannequin that has turned into a darkner, where they're still(?) sort of separate but now much more aligned after the fight
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>>571836782
*
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what was up the $$$$ing bit this chapter?
why did they keep going on and on about their big $$$$ing tails?
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Sorry Noelle, now it's Ralsei who I want to turn into a schizophrenic murderer.
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>>571836913
If I understood correctly, in the light world she can be the undertale version of Mew Mew, where she moves very puppet like. In the Dark World she gets to be an actual anime girl but she has to act in accordance with her body.
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>>571836884
>Autistic early misanthrope with a heart of gold that gets taken out of their shell
>Sweet and innocent 'normal' girl who's a freaky bdsm addict, possibly because of shitty upbringing and sister issues
anon this is like, most romance novels minus the sister issues
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>>571836912
Ralsei gets muted for that room segment
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>>571836952
the floradinns are just weirdly horny
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I haven't gotten around to playing Ch5 yet, but I just want to say; MADDIE!!!
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>>571836754
GLUE
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>>571836952
It was a metaphor for their big $$$$ing asses that they shake for cash.
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>>571836952
Yokai nonsense, pay it no mind, or pay up to get a feel.
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>>571836864
never stop posting kino
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>>571836912
>What does that do by the way?
Nothing, it just pisses Ralsei off even more.
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Remember wokies that thought the weird route was about marriage, heteronormativity, rape etc and all of that wasn't just a cool scenery?
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>>571836985
Is it boring or not?
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>>571836952
I thought it was a reference to the tanuki guy from link's awakening for a while given how heavily chapter 3 had link's awakening stuff
but as the other anon said, it's just yokai nonsense yes, it's why it was in the zelda game
it's also just sort of cute, trickster foxes are generally very popular
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did anyone found other "time traveller" tweets related to chapter 5
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mad new new
>>571837080
>>571837080
>>571837080
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>>571836952
I bet it's something Toby saw a furry write on the internet once and he thought it was the funniest shit in the world. Either that or some inside joke.
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>>571835814
toby fox railroaded you into 2 routes when he put all the effort into rainbow gumdrop good boy route or evil hyperdeath evil rape route
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>>571837061
I die in one hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3SwIqVfMoc
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>>571837095
I dunno most people are into the bdsm girl from all I'm aware of but I wouldn't call myself an expert
given the amount of doe fags in this general I would say it's pretty popular, "boring" is an inherently subjective quality
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>>571836913
It's more like a lightner and a darkner cohabiting a body.
When the fountain is sealed, Mewmew the ghost will still be a ghost possessing an anime figurine, and Mewmew the figurine will be just an object. Mewmew won't really be able to move, though.
If they go back to the castle town That's actually a whole other can of worms I never thought of, holy shit, isn't Mewmew an actual person? A person who now knows about dark worlds? then they return to being two consciousnesses in the one body.
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>>571832638
i miss him too..................... no one else can fill the hole in my heart
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>>571836864
You're in my good books right now. Not filtered by Chapter 6 and lots of good on-topic discussion from you and not even trying to rage bait.



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