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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9441 - sugar and honey Edition

==NEWS==
> Sonic Frontiers: Definitive Edition Officially announced for Nintendo Switch 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlkkchmzVrA
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/

==Comic Release Dates==
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/9Yw5jkAHgME

Previous Zone: >>571950707
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>favorite food: coffee (even the beans xD)
/sthg/!
STHG!!
You TOLD me that they got rid of the bean meme! You TOLD me it was curry! CURRY!!
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>>572004935
Though it was burritos?
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IDW is trash
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If fives Sonic's Fortnite skin is revealed/leaked next week
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>>572004617
>I just want the real Amy back but I don't wanna point out the real reasons she was changed in the first place.

Culture War is why she was changed in the first place. Get over it.
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Mexico city? That sounds like a lovely place !
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>>572005294
>enrich his platform
This retard couldn't enrich a slice of bread.
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>>572004178
Marine is officially a "principle character" (i.e. the core person that Sonic and friends help over the course of the story) wait shouldn't Blaze be there instead of Omochao
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Post that image of Honey drinking milk
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>>572005312
Creampieing Cream
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>>572005697
>emerald anniversary
They're really pushing that one.
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Douge
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>>572005294
>Culture War
This only works for people like Evan or Gigi. Ian wants to get back at SEGA for destroying his ship.
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Hello /sthg/!
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>>572005312
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/sthg/, what does it feel like to be cucked to death?
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>>572006079
Ian forced a shitty pronouns discussion into Frontiers. Yes, he's all in on turning Amy into a political tool.
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>>572006309
Sonic
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>>572005312
>>572006228
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>>572005697
I have revised this tier list (presuming characters are fighting at their most skilled with no emeralds) in Honor of Water Raccoon.
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>>572006469
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>>572006309
How should I know? Im jot a cuckold
Go to a gacha general and ask them
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>>572006427
reminder that there was a DEI consultant team hired for frontiers.
i forgot their name however, i think it was something like hit detection?
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>>572006561
>omega in the same tier as cream when he's the one thst defeats Shadow in bad future 06
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>>572006812
tails if he noelle
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>>572006759
next client please
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>>572006941
Who is that
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>>572005294
Schizoing about Ian doesn't accomplish anything.

The real Amy Rose is still the most desired version of the character. Ive seen people who are otherwise indifferent to her legit asking what she even is anymore and ranking her lower on their character rankings because of what's going on with her now.

Amy is a spunky gal who goes after what she sets her heart on. The designated power of love character who lights up the room with her cuteness and energy.

Now she is just seen as the token lead girl and nothing else.

Give me the real Amy Rose damnit

https://youtu.be/QSWu_NRm5PI
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>>572006427
Well, I don't deny it, but what I mean is that the reason Ian wants to destroy Amy is not Culture War, but it was because of Sally.
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well if it isn't the 16th wheel
>16th wheeler trailer truck
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>>572006427
If he wanted to be political he would say they/them, not it. Stop being obsessed with Ian
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>>572006902
Yeah, they also worked on Sonic Forces yet that script has no such ideological pushing. It was Ian. It's ALWAYS Ian.
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>>572006561
Chaos Zero still too high if it's just base-forms.
>Infinite was too terrified of Gamma to make a Phantom version of him
headcanon...acceptable.
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>>572006079
Evan writes Amy in character more than others though.
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>>572007331
Yet, she will turn everything else into a Tumblr fic that does not have anything that could resemble Sonic.
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long
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>>572007163
>Schizoing about Ian doesn't accomplish anything.
Bullshit. Saying nothing about the root of the problem ensures a problem continues. If you don't speak up and be loud as a motherfucker, things just get worst.

That's why picsreel happened. YOU let this shit happen.
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>>572005103
Burritos were a failed meme because lol latinas
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>>572006561
Chaos, Honey and Tails are too high.
Silver, Metal, Amy and Infinite are too low.

Eggman is way too low as well.
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If Amy is a warrior of love. Why doesn't she have a transformation scene?
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>>572006561
Nothing wrong here
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I'm the one that is slowly killing Sonic, I'm so sorry everyone...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_CqOGb5cXY
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>>572007163
>pretending to be an amyfag
>but protecting the person who is trying to destroy her character
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>>572007824
sega executive...
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Reminder: Being called a "schizo" for pointing out a pattern of behavior is just them trying to silence you.
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Thank you for another Babylon Rouge jakks now do

>Marine
>Sage
>Honey
>Gamma
>Emerl
>Gemerl
>Vanilla
>Bark
>Bean
>cheese
And Froggy please
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>>572007642
>root of the problem
He is not the root. This shit started before he came along. It started with Lost World.
All you are doing is jerking yourself off. You don't care abput actually fixing anything.
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>>572007163
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>>572007684
Fowler will make it Canon...
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Es ist Zeit für Säuberung!
Es ist Zeit für Rache!
Wir müssen die Juden ausrotten!
Heil Hitler!
Heil Hitler!
Heil Hitler!
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>>572008117
TAILS NO!
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>>572007784
Most magical girls dont even have transformations.
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>>572008117
I guess he's a conductor or something, cute

And he's wearing the rhythm badge!
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Tails wouldn’t become a nazi, but Nine would, he’d even change his name to Nein
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>>572008117
they don't understand the things i say on twitter
all my niggas nazis, nigga heil hitler
nigga heil hitler
nigga heil hitler
all my niggas nazis, nigga heil hitler
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>>572007885
>coopting thr discourse around Amy's characterization for the pure purpose of culture war-fagging.
Fuck off. I hate leftoids too but there is a time and place for everything.
What you are doing is not productive.
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Why is Tails so narcissistic?
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Sonic Team is to blame for Amy being lobotomized. Ian removes her love and energy in the English scripts and Sonic Team doesn't correct him because they don't care. They only care about Shadow
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Chuncle Uuck
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>>572008007
You believe these people have more control than they actually do. Because you arent interested in actually getting shit done.
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>>572008617
You develop narcissism when you do things few do, especially at a young age.
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>>572008617
Cant you see thats just a SS but with Tails, hes more like nazistic.
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Women WILL be equal to men!
They WILL be independent boss bitches!
They WILL see ALL men as direct competition for resources!
They WILL see love as an emotional tool for oppression and manipulation by men!
They WILL NOT have children or a family!
They WILL hoard pets to fill the gaping hole of existential dread!
They WILL aort and murder their own children out of fear and selfishness!
They WILL be entirely reliant on anti-psychotic drugs to not blow their brains out!
They WILL enslave themselves to corporate capital!
They WILL NEVER find love, peace or even calmness!
Their entire lives will be lived as a meat slave for corporate capital until their bodies and brains are too broken to do anything and they will be summarily thrown into the dumpster along with millions of their sisters in a multi generational sacrifice to nothing because that is all they are good for. Foids are less than human. Don't feel bad for them or for their heroes and characters being raped into personality-less blobs. It is how we will continue to raise more girls into women like this. Line must go up and boy howdy will girls make it go up so long as they never have to deal with having a kid or husband.

Lmao fuck this civilisation. Let it all burn.
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>>572008617
>turning the thing you were bullied for into a point of pride and vigor
>NaRsIsIsT
I swear that word is so overused and abused these days. You cant be proud or confident in any capacity these days eothput being called this unless its about your non-conformong gender or sexuality.
Its so stupid.
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Found Sonic Mania for Switch for 10 bucks in local store
Should I buy it?
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>>572008617
I like that he took something he was bullied for and turned it into a symbol of pride
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>>572007962
GIVE ME CREEEEEEAM
FUCK YOU WALMART
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Kite man Hell yeah! A round of Lee Trevinos for the Babylon rogues
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"His World" is still the greatest theme sonic has (please don't cope and say it doesn't matter or endless possibilities) sonic getting another theme that surpasses it will be a lightning in a bottle moment
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>>572009043
nah
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>>572009043
Yes its a good game
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>>572009194
>>572009160
Make up your god damn minds on Mania already
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>>572009021
This is true but at the same time Tails has a house of his fucking face so he still is
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>>572009043
I would, i own it digitally and already beat but i wanna have it on my shelf
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>>572008806
>You believe these people have more control than they actually do.
I believe that these people are in charge of writing numerous stories through IDW comics and several animations that are all considered official and canon and that one of them was in charge of writing three entire games and may be in charge of writing the next one for all we know.
>Because you arent interested in actually getting shit done.
I don't work on Sonic in any official capacity. What do you expect me to do? I already sent SoJ a feedback email. >>568001012 What power do you think I have, exactly?
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>>572009138
I miss when Sonic games were cool, not safe edgy, and weren't tainted with trap "music" drum machine slop just to appeal to obnoxious zoomers. That was only in the 2000s
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>>572009043
You can buy it on steam for 1.5 euros
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>>572008491
>i hate x, but....
No, you don't, you're just trying to pretend to be someone you are not, just to protect a group.

You're not an Amyfag, and I bet you're just that faggot who always comes here to defend Ian Flyinn.
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First they say he has low self esteem then they say he's a narcissist like come on
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>>572009479
Owning games physically is nice even if I know nintendo can take it away from me at any moment (they won't)
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Trip is cute. CUTE!
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Luthor and Wily are eggman’s best friends

>inb4 but that was archie eggman with Wily
Yeah but crossworlds happened so this one knows wily too
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>>572004935
What a fucking loser
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>>572007739
>Metal too low
Thought about this but figured he shouldn't be above characters who ARE capable of soloing him in Fighters/Mania. Just assume no alt forms or upgrades like Neo Metal are used here. May make another adjustment to this at some point to add more game-canon characters and maybe tweak a bit more..
>Eggman is way too low as well.
Out of a machine?
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>>572007031
A cool doe.
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Sonic doesn't care about romance
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>>572009941
this is cool
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>>572009941
>toes
blobfags DIE
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>>572007982
>It started with Lost World.
>Meanwhile Sonic Forces
Naw fuckoff.
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>>572009138
It Doesn't Matter and His World are both peak. No im not coping.
Knight of The Wind is also deserving of a mention.
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>>572009446
>I already sent SoJ a feedback email.
NTA, but I did that too
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>>572009982
>shouldn't be above characters who ARE capable of soloing him in Fighters/Mania
Bump Fang next time, ya mook.
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>>572009784
this is factually correct
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>>572009281
>brought up the house meme
You people are such NPCs
Its not that deep dude. This is like people that unironically call Amy blind.
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>>572009652
At some point uncles need to realize this logic no longer applies when modern tech is made to malfunction at some point in the near future.
Your GameBoy may still work but your Switch won't last more than 15 years even if you barely use it
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>>572010034
Everyone knows this except Archie fans
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Here's what I added to my fangame recently:
>Pulleys
>Homing attack reticle
>All kinds of spikes
>Bombs
>Objects spawners
>Those big springs from Sonic Dream Team
Any thoughts or questions?
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So is Mania or SA2 the better game?
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Metal Jobber, no....
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>Shadow
>Silver
>Sonic
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>>572010602
Beans
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>>572009652
Most Switch and Switch 2 cartridges don't even have the game on them. They just have a code where you download it from the eshop and thats it. The cartridge is literally useless after you use it once.
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>>572009446
>I believe that these people are in charge of writing numerous stories through IDW comics and several animations that are all considered official and canon and that one of them was in charge of writing three entire games and may be in charge of writing the next one for all we know.
Using a lot of choice words to carry you here.
Evan has consistently written Amy the most in-character and like her 2000s self of any writer.
Ian wrote for 1 game. 1.
>shadowgens
Nothing in that can be chalked up to Ian because none of the cutscenes are edited based on his diologue.
So its not on him.
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>>572010442
Amy being blind is a good theory
Tails having a house with his face is canon
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>>572010602
you can't trick me anon, this is just the switch 2 version of frontiers
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>>572009558
Mental illness.
Go cry about Rouge's boobs while her actual characteristics like her being a thief gets erased.
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>>572010792
He's a proud boy
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>>572010661
Mania has better gameplay and levels
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>>572010792
Sonic and Shadow literally look the same to all characters. The Amy theory doesn't work because it applies to everyone
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>>572010731
It says game key card on the box and cartridge if that's the case
GTA 6 will be game key card too
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>>572010754
>Evan has consistently written Amy the most in-character and like her 2000s self of any writer.
And yet she's still more concerned with identity politics and dancing around people's feelings than writing the character according to the guidelines SoJ has for her.
>Ian wrote for 1 game. 1.
Frontiers, CrossWorlds, Shadow Gens. 3.
>>572010754
>Nothing in that can be chalked up to Ian because none of the cutscenes are edited based on his diologue.
>So its not on him.
He was the lead writer for Shadow Gens, in charge of the rewrites for Sonic Gens, and in charge of Gerald's Journal.

Fuck you, you lying, deceptive piece of shit.
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>>572010602
Add rails to grind on
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I just realized why the theme of Sonic 4 and the anniversary is Chaos Emeralds
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Colored this art
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Sonic is the dad I never had.
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>>572011064
I don't care, I like it so I defend it
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>>572010225
I'll let this slide since you mentioned Knight of the Wind.
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>>572010694
Beans indeed
>>572010840
kek
>>572011310
There are grind rails already. You can see them by watching the webm.
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Comicfags love trying to erase the intentionally silly aspects of Sonic for some reason
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>>572009982
>Out of a machine?
Yes Eggman is fast outside of his machine and strong as fuck, able to punch cars and toss starline and Surge around.

The idea he is weak outside of his mechs is just a weird assumption people make for no reason.

>>572010209
>Reducing the problem to just her saying she loves Sonic.
Forces was written by Eitaro Toyoda anyway.

>>572010792
>literally uses the panel from IDW
Literal NPC behavior
>Amy being blind is a-
No it isn't.
Amy is not blind. She is not visually impaired.
Sonic and Shadow canonically look similar. Sonic and Silver canonically look and vibe similar.

Also being blind means having no vision. How woulf she mistake them.specificslly if she was blin-
Nevermind. Im just upsetting myself.
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>>572011089
>shill
Go back to /v/ to astroturf
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>>572010932
No Mental Illness is trying to pretend to be something you're not, like you woke people do. And the only one crying here about something is you, people here are actually doing something instead of just crying that they want the old things back.
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Can Valve take away my games at any moment if they wanted to?
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>>572011281
>And yet she's still more concerned with identi
IDGAF mother fucker. My concern is the character being the character, which Evan objectively does.

>>572011281
>He was the lead writer for Shadow Gens.
No he wasn't.
>in charge of the rewrites for Sonic Gens,
Of which the cutscenes weren't changed for.
>and in charge of Gerald's Journal.
Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

>L-lying! P-
No youre just actually deranged and need to log off
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>>572011920
They will once they go bankrupt
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>>572011413
>shiptard
Ofc everytime
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>>572012024
It's the laughing emoji that sells it.
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>>572012024
Naka did it too much earlier
>inb4 reeeeee japanese men hate women and romance and are incels i want my ship self insert
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>>572011920
Currently no, even games that get delisted you can still download if you owned.
There's only specific cases like when keys were revoked when people bought code vein 2 for dirt cheap due to a humble bundle store error.
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Heh, Ian Flyinn's defense force is really trying hard today, even pretending to be an Amyfag to do it.
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If a super massive solar wind hit us and destroyed all electronics on the planet would you be able to still play your consoles? Checkmate.
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>>572012220
Why do japs think marriage and romantic relationships mean you have to give up on your hobbies, dreams and ambitions?
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>>572012024
Sonic never liked romance. This was known since CD. Everyone who thinks otherwise is stupid or coping.
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>>572012391
I treasure friendship. I like to do adventure and challenge. no i won't marry you
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>>572011635
Because comicfags hate Sonic and what Sonic stands for. They want Sonic shoving his tongue in every female and crying. Sonic is about adventure.
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>>572011647
>The idea he is weak outside of his mechs is just a weird assumption people make for no reason.
He's not weak, but being one of the only characters who can't spin (outside of that one time he was in a Sonic suit designed for it) hinders him a lot. He can't be stronger than some of the other heavysets at least.
>>572010394
Fug, knew I was forgetting something.
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>>572012172
It's not shipping you idiot
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>>572012375
Tabletop and board gamers winning once again
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>>572012375
Yes, checkmate atheist.
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>>572011364
Hot
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>>572012391
They're swamped with work because of their cultural values
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archiefags are like if people defended transformers kiss players
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>>572012740
*And the concept of "marrying for love" wasn't really a thing for them.
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>>572012895
Soulless people
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>>572012391
Yuji Naka
>Married for decades
>has two little sons right now
>actually had to give up his hobbies and ambitions for years and is only now getting back into exploring ancient ruins

Oshima
>Never married nor has kids
>Gay
>Never gave up his hobbies or ambitions


gee i wonder
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"Don't look, don't look," the shadows breathe
Whispering me away from you
"Don't wake at night to watch her sleep
You know that you will always lose
This trembling, adored
Tousled, bird-mad girl"

But every night I burn, every night I call your name
Every night I burn, every night I fall again

"Oh, don't talk of love," the shadows purr
Murmuring me away from you
"Don't talk of worlds that never were
The end is all that's ever true
There's nothing you can ever say
Nothing you can ever do"

Still every night I burn, every night I scream your name
Every night I burn, every night the dream's the same
Every night I burn, waiting for my only friend
Every night I burn, waiting for the world to end
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>>572011965
>No he wasn't.
Yes he was.
>Of which the cutscenes weren't changed for.
The only cutscenes that were changed were FUCKING AMY. And he still changed her dialogue when rescuing her and her profile.
>Which is irrelevant to the discussion.
It's part of Shadow Gens.

Why are you covering for this asshole?
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>>572013136
Could've divorced his wife and leave the kids then.
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>>572011827
I am LITERALLY anti-woke dude. Leftoids are annoying but holy shit you people do NOT help. All you do is make well positioned opposition look unhinged.
You're like planned opposition.
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>>572012391
>Most of modern Japan’s culture and customs were formed during the Edo period; this is also true of the family structure. After the war, there was a sudden influx of American liberal values and the nuclear family, in which children lived apart from their parents, became prevalent. These American values included the culture of relying on love in order to find the partner with whom one would form one’s own independent family. However, Japan has no custom of freely marrying for love.

>This is because, in the Japanese version of the stem family, priority was given to the survival of the family line. The character that represents the Japanese word yome, which roughly translates to “bride” or “wife,” is made up of two components: the character for “woman” and the character for “home” or “family,” symbolizing the fact that, for men, a bride was a woman who came to live in the family home. Marriage and childbearing took place for the purpose of ensuring the survival of the family line, so there was no need to marry for love. Although love was a value appreciated during the Heian period (late 8th to late 12th centuries), when customs such as tsumadoikon (duolocal marriage) existed, continuing the family name became more important once Japan became a samurai society; in the Edo period, people even went as far as adopting a son-in-law or married couple into the family to continue the family line. In other words, the purpose of marriage was to ensure the survival of the family. It is therefore only natural that Japanese people became clueless about romantic love. Although the custom of marrying for love was introduced to Japan after the war, I believe that it is difficult to force it on Japanese people, as the basic foundations for romantic love have not been laid. Incidentally, the word (concept) “yome” does not exist in the liberal cultural sphere of the nuclear family.
https://english-meiji.net/articles/297/
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reminder that 99% of core4fags are amyfags and 99% of teamdarkfags are rougefags
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>Dark Oak
>Japanese Sonic character
>Beautiful wife and two daughters
>KILLED EVERY FEMALE OF HIS SPECIES JUST BECAUSE
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>>572013254
>I am LITERALLY anti-woke dude.
>defends woke people
>tell people who are trying something that should do nothing
Yeah, sure you are.
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>>572013394
im teamdark because of omega
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>>572013394
Team Dark is codeword for "Rouge and Shadow". Omega gets treated like furniture.
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>>572012991
Windfags defend this too as if it were a good thing lol
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>>572012359
>Ian defense force
I am critical of Ian in general. He is not relevant to the overall wider picture with what is happening to Amy.
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>>572013834
Just because it's canon doesn't make it good. Sonic Forces is canon. IDW and Prime are canon. There is a difference between being aware of something and saying it's good. The problem with a lot of shippers is being unwilling to accept this is just how Sega operates.
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>>572013769
he is furniture. shadow has to reason to care about rouge nor do shadowfags. they like shadow because he is cool and badass. only rougefags do because that's the only thing available today to make her relevant. she does not score top 12. do you have any idea how many people care about mephiles and jet? mephiles lost a poll to sonic man
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>>572012391
>Japs
Everyone thinks this. You're lying and pushing shiptard agendas suggesting otherwise.
Also Sonic running around all the time going on adventures is no mere hobby.
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>>572012551
>"F-Faker"
Aaand its garbage.
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>>572013834
>Windfags defend (Sonic)
Retard, go read Archie and pretend the last 50 issues aren't canon if you want a skinwalker that looks like Sonic who does romance
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>>572014502
i think it's a fun dynamic. i always kekd at shadow and sonic calling each other names in fan art
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>>572014187
Just like Sonic not being allowed to be in a romantic relationship because the Japanese men who work on the franchise project their lack of love and emotions onto him. It's canon but that doesn't mean it's good
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Marrying for love only existed for baby boomers and early Gen X'ers. It's not the status quo for humans to marry who they love or are attracted to.
Honestly looking at divorce rates, it's questionable if the boomers married for love either.
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What's the coolest robot in the series?
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>>572014529
he won't because it got the wrong ship
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>>572014757
Omega.
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Sonally officially only lasted like 6 issues before it was permanently dismantled. You people don't read the comics you criticize at all.
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>>572014147
No other writer removes Amy's love. It's only Ian Flynn who does it. He's to blame but so is Sonic Team because they do nothing to stop it
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>>572011064
i think the point is that amy has some latent mystical mumbo jumbo energy and shadow and silver for whatevr reason register as having a similar energy to sonic. maybe one day well get lore about it.
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Stop trying to revive the 2000's they're never coming back. These characters have always been changing. They must.
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>>572015080
It was 15 issues. Sonic and Sally were dating before the Xorda impact and broke up until just before the mecha Sally arc. They got back together for a few issues before storming the death egg.

In Satam they were not dating. They were more like friends with benefits. While still OOC Ben Hurst had a better grasp of Sonic than Ian Flynn.
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I miss them...
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>>572013237
>writer sporty and script
That doesn't make him the lead writer you ignoramus.
Sonic Team writes the outline and he pitches ideas and then writes the script.
>The only cutscenes that were changed were FUCKING AMY.
Which Ian had no actual say on. Otherwise he wouldn't of had Classic Sonic tap his stomach at knuckles when he asks about angel island.

Im not covering for shit. You're just flying off the handle. Ian has plenty to criticize without needing to fight for crumbs to do so.
Fucking American
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>>572015473
Its nearly been a decade anon. You need to move on with your life.
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>>572015080
This was literally because nobody except Flynn and Butler actually wanted Sonic and Sally together. Even Penders was bragging about how he didn't want them together.
I forget which Archie writer it was but someone wanted Sonic to be with Fiona instead while the other wanted him with Amy.

I don't think Penders was a windfag, he just didn't like that gamefags blame him for the romance stuff in Archie when that was a directorial decision.
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>>572014697
Boomers are the greediest and most selfish generation ever. They're humor is nothing but "I hate my wife" because it's a reflection of their fetishization of divorce and the fact that they're responsible for making no-fault divorce a thing
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>>572014206
desu i don't think japanese women who voted for this poll represent the western opinions that accurately.
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>>572013769
Which is sad to me because I like Omega more than I do Rouge and Shadow. I like how he's just a big blaster bot with claws and guns and whatever the fuck else he has per game with a vendetta against Eggman but he also has some cool character moments that give him an almost human side, like when he reassures Rogue in Heroes by telling her that the only way to create copies of Shadow is to have the original. My boy gets shit on by the shippers.
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>>572015730
>sad Nicole noises
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>>572011647
>Reducing the problem to just her saying she loves Sonic.
Yes, cause that's exactly what is getting censored out. The absolute removal of Amy's crush on Sonic cause writing for "porn addictions" aka heterosexual men is bad.

The problem is literally that simple.
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>>572013394
>rougefags
Shadougefags arent rougefags
Sonamytards are not Amyfags.
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>>572015703
>That doesn't make him the lead writer you ignoramus.
There are literally no other names there, you fucking dipshit.
>Fucking American
Oh, I see what this is about.
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why dont archiefags just make their own content of mobius instead of begging for the archie comics back? you wouldn't even like them if they came back. there would be mandates up the ass tearing apart everything you like.
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Reminder: Ian thinks it's SONIC'S FAULT that Amy was a damsel in distress.
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>>572014607
>i think it's a fun dynamic
Its not a "dynamic". Its just a verbal tick acting as a substance substitute and a reference. It doesnt mean anything anymore and takes me out of the experience.
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>>572016089
https://archiesoniconline.com/
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>chased the wind so long she lost all hope and became an atheist
damn amy damn
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>>572014643
>not being allowed
Sonic does not want to. It is not in his character. It is not a mandate forced upon the character. It is the character being respected.
>the Japanese men who work on the franchise project their lack of love and emotions onto him.
Sonic was originally gonna have Madonna but they canned the idea because they deemed it not fitting of the character.
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>>572016158
The Wacky Workbench statue being the goddess of Little Planet is a pretty nice touch.
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>>572015908
99% of rougefags are dougebros
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>>572016369
Why can the idea with Amy also? Amy was created as the alternative to Madonna
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>"I'm not a damsel in distress anymore"
So stunning and brave....But it won't sell copies cause having damsels in distress is a good thing.
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>>572016089
I'm sorry but who the fuck in here is asking for Archie to come back? I dont even think /co/fags want that.
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>>572016171
Anita would be proud.
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>>572015097
>No other writer removes Amy's love.
Amy's love is absent on Mania Adventures, treated as a secret it Boom and written as such on her Mania Adventures bio, is absent in her Origins bio is not present in any capacity in Superstars and but IS in the issues Evan wrote.

Make it make sense.
Tyson Hesse himself didnt have it in Mania Adventures and he is actively against what is happening to Amy.
Explain it
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>>572016158
I don't get it
I mean I know it's The End, but I still don't get it
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>>572011647
It’s a panel based from his house from Battle
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>>572016089
this is just nipfag schizoism. most*** archie fans have accepted the comic is dead as fuck and never coming back
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>>572016171
>>572016601
>>572016684
I hate Ian Flynn so much
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>>572016695
>Amy's love is absent on Mania Adventures
>Tyson Hesse himself didnt have it in Mania Adventures
There's literally only one of these with Amy and it ends with her giving a flower to Sonic (after spending the entire thing trying to reunite Metal with Eggman despite their differences). What the actual FUCK are you talking about?
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>>572015285
Yes, that is the idea. Amy finds Werehog Sonic in Unleashed because vibes.
But then doesnt recognize him.

>>572015295
change =/= mutilation
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You know what. Anita was right. Women shouldn't be seen as rewards. They're not.
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>welcome to /sthg/. here we sperg all day about amy and/or silvaze
i am sick of shipping and shippers
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>>572016992
Only one of these is a ship, sir.
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shadow
amy
silver
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>>572016942
What if the woman WANTS to be a reward? Have you thought about THAT, chud?
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If Sega listened to krack, Shadow would be wearing maid dresses and crying for Maria all day
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>>572015892
>Yes, cause that's exactly what is getting censored out.
Its not all that this amounts to. Her bubbliness and temper and simple-mindedness are also being fucked up among other things. Her love of love IN GENERAL is absent. She is being made a generic level headed who works hard.

You mention none of this becausr you are not invested.
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>>572016218
bruh this fan continuation shits on idw and everything sonic team has made so far since 2007
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>>572016061
>American confirmed
Everytime. You dipshits are all the fucking same.
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>>572017405
>t. american
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I think we can all agree making a "canon" comic was a bad idea because look at the boring mess IDW became just to avoid breaking continuity. Sage's first appearance is just a meandering therapy session about learning to accept family.
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>>572017205
I unironically think thats why they stopped coming up with that argument. They want to be on the pedestal but also want to pretend to be equal and also be seen as a victim.
Modern day feminism makes absolutely no sense anymore.
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>>572016454
Those are not Rougefags lmao.

>>572016484
Yes which is why Sonic and Amy had the dynamic they have where Sonic ran and Amy chased.
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>>572017372
How hard is it to make chuckles do something? huh? idw? you see that? chuckles is known as the rock sitter. yet there he is, transporting with warp rings and being badass in other places
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>>572015295
ok, unnamed-sega-producer-who-is-the-true-finalboss-of-sonamy
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Mem should have to chase after women.
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>>572017405
Hope that Canadian dick tastes good. It better be worth looking as stupid as you have.
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>>572017581
Schrödinger's feminist - A woman is simultaneously empowered and a victim of patriarchy, depending on whatever context or situation benefits her more at the time.
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I want to put him in my rape dungeon
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Korra's successor right here. Knuckles the earth bender
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>>572017821
>Hope
Listen here morherfucker
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>>572017506
IDW as a whole was a mistake because it not only messed up the continuity, but it also invited all these woke activists into the fandom
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we should discuss those comics rather than that cycle of retardation we get into daily
>but it's non canon fan slop
shut the fuck up. i am sick of talking about amy and silver and blaze and krack all day
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>>572014147
>I (anonymous) am x
Sure, buffy. And I am Takashi Iizuka and I say Sonic don't want your people with us.
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>>572016707
And Ian turning a stupid discord meme into dialogue like he always does because he's a hack writer.
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>>572015295
>These characters have always been changing.
You'd be surprised how untrue that can be.
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>>572016858
>ends with her giving a flower to Sonic
Literally nothing romantic or lovey-dovey about it. She gives the same flower to Metal to give to Eggman.
She gives him the flower as Sonic is cringing and then leaves.
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>>572018507
>Literally nothing romantic or lovey-dovey about it. She gives the same flower to Metal to give to Eggman.
That's the point, anon. The flower is for Metal to give to Eggman as a show of their bond. Eggman obviously doesn't give a shit, but that's why Amy gives it to her. So that the gesture feels more genuine from Metal. So she gives the same flower to Sonic for the same reason.
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>Espio seething from a distance
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I married for lust instead of love despite the protests of my friends and family and we are still a happily married unit, thanks /sthg/ (of all places) reminding me we did the right thing.
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>>572018338
>buffy
The Vampire slayer?
Ian is a hack writer who relies on cheap references and mashing action figures together and forced connections to create the illusion of writing substance.
His writing is devoid of any actual themes or messages and he pretends pointing out the fact you are enjoying a peice of media with media based restrictions like its an early 2000s message board is the equivalent of good commentary and depth of subject matter.

You're still an idiot
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>>572016182
>verbal tick
You don't know what a verbal tick is
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Tails
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>>572018981
In 20 years when you're downing a bottle of Smirnoff in a dark apartment after you lost your house in a divorce, I hope you remember this post.
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>>572018625
More Lien-Da losing her shit
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>>572018723
Way to miss the point of the convo. The anon claimed her love for Sonic was only absent with Ian.
This is not true.
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Who here likes big butts?
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I'm going to go fap to that Lien-daxTails comic again.
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>>572019282
I do but not this
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>>572018981
But Tails I thought you were smart.
...Oh I see, it's because of the one who got away isn't it?
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Amy doesn't love Sonic anymore, she is just "inspired by" him.
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>>572007347
>YIP! YIP! YIP!
Cuuute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>572018339
How would you know it’s a Discord meme
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my kids love Sonic like I do
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>>572019218
That's... the point? One of the complaints with Ian's stupid thing about sharing her love with the world in Frontiers was that Amy was already doing that. That's what she does with Gamma. It's what she did with Shadow. And it's what she did with Metal in Mania Adventures. And then she shares, symbolically with the flower, the same love with Sonic. The claim is that Tyson didn't write that into the episode, but he did as long as you're not so retarded that you can't see it. Media literacy really is dead.
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>>572019210
That was from that Knuckles side comic. it focuses on echidna lore and knuckles without doing weird ken penders crap. although ken penders crap was also enjoyable sometimes
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>>572016171
What the fuck?
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>>572019454
You have shit taste
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I kek
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>>572019767
Ian barely plays Sonic games do he wouldn't know that.
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This franchise makes more sense when you realize every game since Unleashed works on soft-rebooting every game
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>>572020424
>works on soft-rebooting every game
Is this a bad thing?
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>>572020209
Tyson Hesse hates Ian Flynn and for good reason
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>>572020424
Since Generations*
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>>572018981
How long do you consider “still”?
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The Metarex are dumb
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>>572019583
If you've been on the internet long enough you pick up on things.
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Reminder that Ian is trying to destroy Amy for the slimmest chance and gamble of Sally retuning. He's going for that 1% possibility against the 99% impossibility.
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>>572020021
... yeah, clearly
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>>572020717
I guess you’re a Discord user then
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>>572019767
The other anon is specifically talking about her romantic feelings for Sonic, which is absent.
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>>572020648
Ian... (he actually thought they were lame even though he tried to pitch a story for them in IDW)
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>>572020727
huh? you said something?.... must have been the wind.
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>>572020812
I have interacted with people thaylt were from Ian's discord.
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>>572020727
That's why I'm hoping he gets fired. He's been nothing but trouble for the franchise

>>572020954
Windfags = Flynnfags confirmed
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>>572020893
I feel like I've clarified that three times by now. I shan't be doing it again.
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Have Ianfags ever answered why Evan and Barnes write Amy correctly while Ian doesn't?
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>>572021062
And why would you do that
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>>572020603
We married during covid and they all thought it was just a covid phase.
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>>572021117
tsk tsk tsk anon anon anon... you really think it's your mean boogie man ian who sunk your ship that was confirmed since day 1 to be crack?
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>>572021184
I seriously don't know why you're playing dumb. Amy isn't historically subtle or voy when it comes to how she expresses love or affection.
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>Hating leftism in the most leftist franchise
The freedom fighters were an eco-socialist revolt against fascism.
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>>572021256
4D chess


>>572021310
Stop reducing Amy's love aspect to being just about a ship. You people are insufferable.
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>>572021475
No one talks in Mania Adventures, anon. They're not going to have her be the only one to or have her hold up some big sign that says "I FUCKING LOVE YOU SANTIAGO, PLEASE PUT YOUR DICK IN ME". You have to take the flower symbolism and the very obvious look in her eyes at face value. You sound like one of those faggots that think all she did was stalk and harass him in the 2000s.
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>>572021310
Of course he did. He's the only writer that deliberately removes Amy's love for Sonic. No other IDW writer does it
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>>572021673
I doubt it’s 4D chess
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>>572021310
>I cannot give you a job
His defenders will never realize this even when told directly.
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>>572021293
Ok keep us updated in 15 years.
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>>572021684
>No one talks in Mania Adventures, anon
Anon....no one did in CD either....
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if the dc comic turns out to be canon that will be evidence that sonic as an ongoing series is over
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Sonic: I don't care about romance I only care about adventure
Ian: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure
Naka: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure
Oshima: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure
Iizuka: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure
Evan: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure (He secretly likes Amy)
Shippers: So you're saying there's a chance
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I hope when Gen Alpha takes over Sonic, they drop the shipping shit and discourage it. It saddens me that grown ass men care about what a blue hedgehog wants to fuck.
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>>572022207
Naka also said Sonic secretly likes Amy.
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I like adventure and challenge and chilidog
no i won't marry your self insert waifu. no i won't marry you neither
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>>572021941
Yeah, and? You pretending it's not there because you expect something else isn't the same as it not being there.
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>>572022207
>implying this is an Evan thing.
Can we not?
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It would actually be based of windnic was kind of a psychopath who would stop being your friend if you didn't entertain him
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>>572022471
the few gen alpha sonic fans engage in shipping wars too. it will never end.
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>>572022471
>what a blue hedgehog wants to fuck.
the answer is definitively nothing and nobody. People need to get over it.
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>>572022207
Sonic liking Amy is implied in multiple bios.
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>>572022507
he said it's amy's style to chase. nothing more
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>>572022535
You pretending it's there because its more fun for you to do so doesnt mean it is...especially when the character has a long history of both ronamtic and platonic tackle hugging...particularly with the blue bastard.
She isn't subtle about it, never has been and shouldnt be.
It defeats the point of the character.
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Amy having a crush on Sonic, a world famous hero, is perfectly fine and should be encouraged.
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>>572022883
and it's obviously bullshit
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>>572023174
I dont see how. Also no I'm not a shipper. No I don't want or need them to get together.
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Sonic is never going to slow down for Amy. His type of girl is someone who can keep up with him. Archie Sonic is the kind who can slow down but he is in love with Sally. Canons Sonic cares about adventure thrills so he would marry a girl who gives him that. Sonamytards are retarded and don't care about Sonic and they don't understand Sonic even windfags shit on them for being so stupid they can't even read basic things stated truthfully. You are never getting Sonamy you retarded long term besties.
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>>572023417
>>572022883
date your shitty waifu yourself
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>>572023417
sonurge is literally sissification for surge on the same level as sonadow bottom sonic and uwuver
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>>572023417
>so he would marry a g
No he wouldn't.
Stop
Sonurge shifter literally accusing people of doing what they are doing.
Sonic is averse to romance in general because he believes it will get in the way in general.
It has nothing to do with physical speed.
This is the same retardation sonadowfags use.
Sonic doesnt do relationshit. Simple as.
You retards keep trying to bullshit yout way around this by caveating. Its obnoxious.
>inb4 who said anything about sonurge
Dont play dumb
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>>572022207
>Ian: Sonic doesn't care about romance he only cares about adventure
What a dirty little lie.
You've been trying really hard this whole thread to paint of Ian as someone good.
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>>572023859
the last question sthg paid for Ian on bumblekast was would game sonic date sally and his answer was no.
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>Sonic-sama will date my waifu so i can self insert
>Sonic-sama will not date my waifu and i can't selfinsert
>Sonic-sama will date my waifu so i can self insert
>Sonic-sama will not date my waifu and i can't selfinsert
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Imagine being against character development. Don't you think this is cute and want her happy?
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>>572023114
>>572023114
>especially when the character has a long history of both ronamtic and platonic tackle hugging...particularly with the blue bastard.
>She isn't subtle about it, never has been and shouldnt be.
Yeah, anon, she would NEVER look at Sonic exactly like this without putting her hands on him in the past. Never ever. You're so right.
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>>572021293
Ah yes, the ol' "it's over, let's bang," trick...
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>>572024372
sonikku will notto datu za gureen shitto for za same reason he will notto datu za pink shitto or za purrupurru shitto or za brown shitto
fuck offu
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>>572021941
False, Sonic does talk in CD
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>>572022828
Cute property damage
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>>572024650
is this artist portraying Sonia as jealous
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>just to be clear. sonikku does not "secretly" like your waifu neither. this is false pure copium
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Please leave these generals already like /fast/ ran you out, Doufag
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sonic dating sim where no matter how hard you try you cannot pair sonic with anybody
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>>572024972
Sonic's father is Ohshima. Naka is the uncle at best.
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So xwitter agrees that Amy's bio is good and ic...
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SonTails is canon tho.
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>>572025237
>no matter man or woman. sonikku not interested romantically. sonic treasure all friendship. he like adventure and challenge
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>>572023417
why you out yourself so easily, duo
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>>572025125
Sonamy besties seething? I thought you wanted Sonic to be incharacter and free like the wind? Well here you go faggot.
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I think I'm just ready to accept whatever outcome Moviemy will be.
I've given up on character in this franchise because the brand failed them themselves when everything was nailed in SA1-SA2. The porn is all I come for now and movie Amt will give me lots of it.
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>>572025406
You don't like Sonic
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Why is no one talking about the CD
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>>572025446
L ragebait
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>>572024565
>pretending these 2 are the same.
You're a lost cause lol
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Even I understand Sonic more than Sonamybesties now
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>tries to pretend to be an amyfag to defend Ian Flynn of all people
>gets called out
>gets humiliated
>now resorts to ragebait as nakafag
Absolutely pathetic.
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>>572024372
>its character development when its for my ship specifically
Into the trash you go
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>>572025625
i like sonic, i just don't self insert myself as him because that's cringe
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>>572025857
You're telling me they're not?
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>>572025237
>trying to erase Naka
Fuck off. Naka and Oshima are both his dads. If anything, Yasuhara doesnt get enough credit.
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>>572024372
Can someone explain to me why fanartists think Surge is a tsundere
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>>572026197
I'm not erasing Naka, but literally all he did was say "I want something that rolls" and Ohshima went out to do all of the character design and polling people in New York.
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>>572025317
Most people are saying its okay/mid and still avoiding talking about her love of sonic or trying to catch his eye.
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>>572024372
Why do you ask such dumb shit if you are only get mad at the responses and NEVER gonna even agree with them anyway, god you are such an attentionwhore Duo
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>>572024372
As someone who's seen a lot of anime this is literally just the default tsundere confession speech in every 11th episode
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>>572026196
One is a long animation of her looking at him crosseyed while getting into his personal space with her hands clasped all lovey lovey.

The other is a freeze frame you took of her passing him a flower before skedaddling.

But sure if you erase the context you can sure dupe yourself into seeingn it as the same thing.
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>>572026402
is duofag bonsoirdude on twitter?


odd if so, since he ai generates sonamy/silvaze/shadouge on his twitter
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>>572026637
She's looking at him the same way in both pictures. But she's not even touching him on the left! According to you, physical contact is super important, so she must love him more on the right, no? Or is that only when it's convenient for your argument?
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>>572026361
>all he did was say "I want something that rolls
This is false. Yasuhara was the one that said that.
Naka was the one that came up with the idea of a character all about Speedx which became the foundation Oshima worked with. Then Naka wanted something that would be able to jump and attack with 1 button which resulted in Yasuhara bringing up a spin attack as an option which led them to the idea of a hedgehog.

You cannot erase or downplay Naka's involvement.
Stop doing it. Its revisionist history and disrespectful.
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>>572026731
Yes, he is
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>>572004935
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>>572026854
>Its revisionist history and disrespectful.
Fair game to do as much when Naka crossed out Oshima in that one picture
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>>572026781
Robotic autism is really annoying.
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aurevoirdude
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>>572026731
in-case you aren't aware, this is all a larp to him. He doesn't actually care and comes here to ragebait because he hates this place and anons here continue to take his bait and give him the attention. How long has he been making the same sonurge anti-sonamy posts and anons still give him (you)s?
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>>572009784
She is the cutest and purest girl at least in classic sonic, i really wanna see her in another game, for now i’ll just collect her merch
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'Dria
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>>572026731
He edits Amy out of his Sonurge pics when he posts them to twitter
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>>572027012
What does that have to do with anything? They had a falling out literal decades after. So fucking what?
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>>572027135
naked Maria in my bed
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>>572027135
Now this is canon
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>>572027012
Oshima was the one at fault
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>>572026854
Naka already had the rolling gameplay in a prototype before they even made a character to go with it. Yasuhara wasn't the one who came up with the rolling idea. You know, while we're talking about revisionist history.
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>>572027216
That Naka doesn’t care about respecting the people he worked with
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>>572027014
Sure, sure. So tell me, then: Did Amy ALWAYS aggressively make physical contact with Sonic or not? Because it doesn't look like it from here. But she did in Mania Adventures, so is it important or not? Because it was until I pointed it out to you.
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>>572027405
And Naka is still acting like a sperg either way.
He had to let everyone know instead of letting the past be the past.
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>>572027110
to be fair, we have so many retards that believe their own delusions here that it isn't hard for me to believe he truly believe on the stuff he says and does
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>>572027414
>#
>Naka already had the rolling gameplay in a prototype before they even made a character to go with it.
This is false.
Oshima had the idea of a character running through Rollercoaster like levels before any of that. Twin Star predates the idea of rolling physics or even Sonic as a character.
What you just stated is a mumentumfag myth.
Look up the sources if you dont believe me.
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>sallytroons falseflagging as amybros to make amybros seem like they're insane
Sallytroons are so annoying
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>my ship... pointed out the obvious to me... you monster! i hate you! you must be a flynnfag
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Sonamyfags couldn't come up with a real point do they just seethe. Surge is a more interesting love interest for Sonic because of the character development. Amy fell in love with Sonic for no reason and it's just a boring generic boy girl pink blue pairing. Sonurge has real sex appeal and story of weight. She's more interesting because she hated Sonic and learned how to be a hero because of him. Amy just showed up in the games with no real story and just loves Sonic because she can.
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>>572027925
Amytards are insane with or without Sally
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>>572027564
Youre arguing yourself in circles now>>572021941
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He's not even denying he's a falseflagging sonallytroon
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>>572028109
Sonaze actually
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who even liked blaze
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>>572028379
I did until the Silvazeshitters attacked
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date your waifu YOURSELF. You a cuck or what?
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>>572028092
So it's too inconsistent, even back in the early 90s, to say that she had a definitive behavior that is or isn't reflected in Mania Adventures and does nothing to debunk my claim. Got it.
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>>572028568
like amy. she cute. hate amyfags. simple as.
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>>572028026
>Amy fell in love with Sonic for no reason
Amy fell in love woth Sonic because she believes in true love and was rescued by her hero as predicted in her fortune cards reading. Then she discovers a thirst for thrills and adventure because of said experience.
From there she grows and trains and works hard being a hero and proving herself capable of hanging with Sonic and trying to win his heart by being her best self.

Your idea of Sonurge is literally just Sonamy but edgy and forced. There isn't any real point where Surge does or would fall for Sonic, nor is there a reason.

Amy does because she feels a fairytale-esque connection to him. She is a romantic and believes in true love.

An Amyfan can enjoy this without the ship at all because its a self sustaining feedbackloop with the character that clhas meaningful consequences for her independently of confirming a silly ship.

Surgefags cant say the same. By contrast its a cope made to try and salvage a fundementally ill-conceived character who is carried by forced SSSS shit.
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>>572028829
>inconsistent
You're coping dude.
Its not even relevant. The two contexts are clearly different.
One is a character looking lovingly and longingly at the other.
The other is just them with a satisfied look on their face.
You're pretending the material superficial ways you can act like its the same accounts for more than the actual context in which it exists it, which is a plague brought about by the internet age and the tropification and meme-ification of stories and of media.
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>>572026954
Axem rangers were cool, shame they never made another appearance
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>>572029239
Funny, because from my perspective you're willingly ignoring anything Amy does or doesn't do that doesn't fit into your teeny tiny little box of what she should be because it inconveniences your argument that Tyson is also somehow removing any traces of her love and affection from Mania Adventures. This is like... kid-level visual cues. A literal child would understand this better than you.
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Huge Mario fan here, i spent hours of my life stomping… KOOPAS in the original mario arcade game
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Sonic Boom was erased
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>>572029453
>#
>Funny, because from my perspective you're willingly ignoring anything Amy does or doesn't do that doesn't fit into your teeny tiny little box of what she should be
I think you lost track of ehat this convo was at this point. I never complained about the short or Amy's portrayal in it. You're fighting an imaginary person at this point.
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movie 4 will either reinforce sonic and amy’s love or botch their relationship so hard, that normies notice the California faggotry and the series finally dies like crash. I'm hoping for either one
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>>572029949
Sonic can't die the way Crash did because Crash is only liked for nostalgia.
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Well /sthg/?
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>sonamyfags will follow a scorched land policy if they don't get their retarded ship

>>572030285
anon...
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>>572029949
Sonic is SEGA, he can’t die unless the whole company dies, crash died because he ended up with activision
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im baaack
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>NOOOT CANON
>NOT CANON
>NOT CANON
>NOT CANON
>NOT CANON
>ONLY MY SHIP SHOULD BE CANON
>YOUR SHIP SHOULD BURN AND DIE I HATE YOU
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>>572030665
who
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>>572030665
Salutations
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2001
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>>572026954
>It wasn't Zomom
>"Zo-who?"
>Zo-MAMMAMIA!
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>nooo my ship don't point out the obvious about my ship i will go full schizo aaaahhhhhhh
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why would you cheer some ship becoming problematic
also why most of the people didnt translate these bios already, it's one click, they've been there for over a year
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>>572030374
Frontiers and the movies are a mass on boarding point for new fans.
Sonic fans actively dunk on forced nostalgia pandering.
People stick with Sonic because its autistic hyperfixation fuel.
Crash is slop you only hold onto because of nostalgia and ck consolefaggotry.

It never did anything unique or special, its world is boring and uninteresting and its stories dont mean anything or have anything real themes or messages.

I like Crash enough to play a new Crash game but not enough to care if it goes back into dormancy.
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>>572026918
why does he ai slop generate sonamy and the sonamy adjacent ships then
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Classichads don’t need to worry about ships but it would be kinda like this in some alternate universe
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>>572030857
BECAUSE SALLY ISNT FUCKING IN THE GAMES THAT ARE CANONLY MADE BY SEGA OF JAPAN
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nobody said anything about sally but if her presence hurts your little retarded brain that much then maybe we should post her more
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>>572031946
they probably have some other yaoislop ship that they feel is getting less attention than jet x wave. i dont care about jet x wave but its stupid to moralfag over it.
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>>572032031
>This sort of shit
>in the most leftist franchise
A freedom fighter accepts ALL no matter their backgrounds.
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>>572030569
>Sonic is SEGA, he can’t die unless the whole company dies
they'll keep him for t-shirts and coffee mugs like hello kitty
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Of course sallyfags don’t want anyone talking about her, they fear the truth and love lying about amy, just like this thumbnail
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Movie Sonic and Amy will have the Ash Misty dynamic and Mistyfags will combine with Amyfags into one big autistic waifu force
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>>572032814
Sonic 4 is a ROMANTIC comedy
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seprging all day about a cartoon rat and cartoon rat ship in a trait of the mentally unwell. hey sonamyfaggot, weren't you sent to a psych ward before according to an old post of yours?
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it was a group home not a ward.
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>worst thing by amyfag
cringe cosplay
>worst thing by sallyfag
literal skeleton in the closet
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>>572032814
Amyfags are the Serena. Amy's love for Sonic is being removed because Sallyfags and shipfags forced Sega to remove it so they no longer have to deal with the autism.
Ian accused them of dangling a carrot and now its gone.
If Sally couldn't be Sonic's love interest no one can.
Now everyone is "equally" just headcanon.
Sallyfags are the Mistyfags.
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>rapes 3 girls
>"I love amy so much"
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Is this in character?
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>>572033395
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>fucks skeleton sally
>comics produce the most troons
>hehe amybros are such troons
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they are so trans coded
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>>572033516
>Amyfags are the Serena
doggo shitto, both are mistyfags.
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>>572033531
Yes actually
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>>572033759
How? I've seen tons of Sonallyfags (and other shipfags) actively say they are against Sonamy and petition against it.
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>>572010690
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sega is fucking retarded and doesn't understand any of these characters, but normies know amy for her love of sonic. I trust the movie writers will know better than to pretend it never existed.
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>>572033973
to this day i still see sonamyfags who are loud against sonally and they go against shadamyfags, too
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Nobody fucking played SA1
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>>572034157
True, we played SA:DX
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>>572033395
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>>572033516
Movie Amy will argue with Sonic and only have vague boring hints, that makes her a Misty
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>>572034110
>sonamyfags who are loud against sonally
Trauma response.
>against Shadamy
You don't have to be a Sonamy shipper to not like it. It's just a generally bad ship than Shadamyfags get obnoxious about for no reason thinking they have found some secret sauce no one else is seeing.
Happens so often its annoying.
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>>572033395
>>572034239
I knew twan was bit narcissist but damn, boy.
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>>572034351
>Trauma response.
from zoomers who never met a single sonallyfag in their lives? yeah. doggoshitto
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>>572034034
i grew up with sonic unleashed. being a kid is not an excuse, it was always a mess.
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>>572033395
>"oh cool a catbox link, let's see what porn we have toda-"
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>>572034269
Got it hate western sensibilities....
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Female characters are not judged based on eho they are, but instead what they are and how other people feel about or treat them
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Anyway the goon general was purged, make a new one
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>>572034087
Same here. Paramount actually cares
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Is Amy Misty Coded or Serena Coded I can't follow along
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>>572034485
>from zoomers who never met a single sonallyfag in their lives?
Sonallyfags antagonised thr shit out of amyfags and sonamyfags online since 2008 at the latest. I was there and it was shitty.
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>>572034667
Can't you do it yourself?
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>>572034485
zoomers met sonalyfags when they were like little kids in 00s. alphas are the ones who probably didn't see it around as much.
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>>572034087
Dude its current year. Wokies will call it "stunning and brave" if she doesnt or if it is treated like a secret or a minor element of the character.
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>>572034832
>>572034873
I was there too and I call doggoshitto. both are equally apes. if you try to say "but the other side is le victim". it means you are the other side trying to play victim
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>>572034667
>even the sonic trash threads are dying
tick tock
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>>572035087
>muh middle ground fallacy.
One responded to the other. Amyfags at large did not know who the hell Sally even was until they struck first.
You're being dishonest.
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>>572035269
>you say both sides bad. you must be.....
been there. yes. sonallyfags shouting muh sonamy. sonamyfags shouting muh sonally and shadamy and sonaze
>but it's just le bad
not any better than the others, you disingenuous retar
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>>572034815
Neither, shipping wars are cancer.
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>>572006561
Girl!
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>>572034269
Paramount isn't going to waste an entire movie doing that. They're not stupid, unlike Sonic Team
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>>572024932
Of course, her brother Sonic is all for her
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>>572035676
/mtrg/ forever and always
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>>572035450
>sonamyfags shouting muh sonally and shadamy and sonaze
I legit never see this until someone else comes in bringing it up while dunking on the former.

>not any better than the others, you disingenuous retar
Shipping is autistic in general. I have no horse in this race.
Im just calling the bs where I see it.
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Silver is the strangest character in the franchise because who else can unhook a bra without even touching it?
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What is the point of a ship war when the conclusive answer is that you are ALL WRONG
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>>572035074
every goddamn movie now has a tedious girlboss bitch who has no vices or sense of humor. it be "stunning and brave" if she likes sonic openly and unironically, after a decade and a half of the whole franchise being known for nothing but shit games and porn
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>>572036038
This single panel is why I don't like IDW. For as ooc Archie is the stories were its own. Here is Silver having one of the most epic battles of his life. I can forgive years of romance slop just for that. IDW is sterile and stagnant. It can't tell its own stories. You're going to get recycled villains like the deadly 6 or Silver fighting street level crooks like Mimic
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>>572035963
>I legit never see this
I have been seeing it as early as late 2000s. on deviantart, xshitter and tiktok

>>572036084
I am canon. you're not. now you should die
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Sonallyfags send death threats to gen alpha and younger gen z for drawing sonic and amy holding hands.
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>>572036038
He should unlock his chastity cage so we can have some fun
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>>572035963
i ve seen some sonamyfags shit on shadamy regardless of shadamyfags shouting or not. sonally or sonaze are too irrevelant in comparison for sonamyfags to actually scream at before someone brings it up
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>>572036305
sure thing, bestiebro. go back to your psychward it's time for your meds
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>>572008117
So I wasn’t crazy for thinking that. They even made him raise his arm.
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Windfags side with Sonamy
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>>572036695
no we don't. keep your ship for yourself
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>>572036440
A lot of Shadamyfags have this attitude of "this makes more sense for Amy than Sonic" which is why.
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>>572036695
>Windfags side with Sonamy and defend it from Sonamyfags that start spouting nonsense
ftfy
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>>572036853
Now that's some disingenuous cope
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>>572036853
where does this come from? i actually somewhat like the ship and see where it comes from, but in terms of actually making sense, sonic is all ill suited for romance as is, but shadow purely by canon instead of vibes, is even more ill suited. i can't really see amy falling for someone like shadow either since she's all about fun and thrills.
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>>572016484
Speaking of Madonna, she was initially going to chase Sonic around but they ended up giving her traits to Amy instead
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>>572036695
I only "defend Sonamy" the way Oshima and Naka intended where Sonic doesn't get into a relationship with her and Amy puts up with it.
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Does anyone have the digimon cope image
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>>572037462
I've never heard of that anywhere
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>>572037025
I literally see it regularly but believe what you want.
>>572037212
Shadamyfags dont actually consider Amy's interests or character in the equation. They just see nice girl and bad boy and look at her speech in SA2 and make up the rest.
Amy is a prop in Shadamy.
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>>572036440
i no longer see sonamyfags bringing up sonally unprovoked as much outside here. but it does happen in contexts where sally is relevant
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>>572037212(me)
this isn't shipbashing, i am just genuinely curious as to why you guys think it makes more narrative sense than sonamy
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>>572037563
Was stated by Ohshima iirc. Amy inherited this trait from Madonna.
NTA btw
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>>572036084
some ships are wrong-er than others
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>>572037915
i mean even if you ignore amy's character to self insert i just don't really see shadow as any more receptive to romance than sonic is in canon. as far as shadowfagging is concerned. and if he had to be, id probably see him going for a more reserved or self contained (in mbtifag terms Fi instead of Fe) types.shadikal probably makes more sense for what they see in shadamy or even shadream if she was older.
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>>572023417
>Marriage
Shiptards never fail to try and secretly push their waifu/husbando like they think the problem is “who” and not the issue of settling in the first place. Your ugly waifu is an even worse option, Sonic doesn’t need to babysit a mentally ill bitch. Literally no different than a dumbass fujo whore about Shadow.
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>>572037915
I am not denying it btw. i am saying that it's a perfectly valid reason to like a ship. otherwise it wouldn't have gotten popular. sonamyfags getting salty over it makes them as much of mistyfags as sonallyfags
>Shadamyfags dont actually consider Amy's interests or character in the equation.
>Amy is a prop in Shadamy.
that's more cope
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>>572038109
I have literally never seen or heard Ohshima or Yuji Naka say that Madonna was supposed to chase Sonic. The only Madonna elements Amy has are the red dress and and the bob cut hairstyle
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>>572037212(me)
>>572038408
can you explain to me why some think it makes more narrative sense than sonamy? i am not shipbashing but genuinely curious in understanding or psychoanalyzing stuff.
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>>572037979
People have a tendency to do ships not based on character chemistry and giving both characters ehat they want from a relationship, and instead fulfilling pairing tropes, usually because it creates a fantasy for the person doing the shipping.
Amy is a nice girl and shadow is a bad boy and she was able to reach him, so it creates the fantasy of being the one girl the bad boy listens to.

The reason people argue Shadow would more than Amy is purely because Shadow has no confirmed outright statements about him being averse to love like Sonic does, not has Shadow ever overtly reacted less than positive to any Amy advances (because they never happened)
So its a case of "enough nothing for you to kind of insert whatever you want" whereas Sonic and Amy have a very decided and outlined dynamic that doesnt leave room for inventing your own stuff to fill in blanks.
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I just think Sonamy is boring. Girl loves guy the end. Sonurge is interesting because she has to overcome a hatred
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>>572036525
it was a group home NOT a pysch ward
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>>572038256
But Amy is the main girl and a lot of female fans are in main girl jail where they feel obligated to latch onto Amy for this reason and no other.

The idea of Amy ditching Sonic to go bang his rival is part of the appeal for a lot of them as well.
A lot of people get frustrated with Amy chasing Sonic but not getting into a relationship with him so her ditching him to go with his edgy rival makes for drama.

Then ofc you have the "she reminds him of Maria and he looks like Sonic" angle.
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>>572038627
different tastes in shipping. that's it. there's not much in either ships unless you borrow from non-sonic content to form a headcanon on where either ships can head. both ships are actively present in shoujo works
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>>572033521
this pedo was not a sonamyfag but a self shipper, it's disingenious to bring up pedos as an argument aganist shipfagging regardless but he isn't a sonamyfag.
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shipping is amazing
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>>572039465
where did that post mention anything about sonamy?
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>>572038408
>I am not denying it btw
You literally called it "disingenuous cope".
>sonamyfags getting salty over it
Its not even about Sonamy for me. Its more about me being an Amyfag really.
Whenever I see it it always feels like Amy's corpse is being puppeted around. Shadamy stuff even all changes Amy design radically to have longer hair and makes her personality different (in the same different way) that rubs me the wrong was as a fan of the character.

Metamy and Blazamy doesnt have this issue nearly as much by comparison.
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Where am i
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Sonamy is something I don't like but tolerate. This is because Sonic is my self insert
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>>572039239
i mean i know self insert girls and such but i mean people actually arguing for character cohesiveness instead of that.
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>>572039637
this reminds me of that 3d porn i jacked off to of sonic girls shitting out of their nipples. it was hot.
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>>572038563
They stated the personality of Madonnna was given to Amy.
The design elements for Modern are fan speculation.
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>>572038563
youtube.com/watch?v=UkhjBAYL2Hs at 1:35
They did this as early as the classic days https://www.famitsu.com/news/201606/24107383.html?page=2
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>>572039641
i ve seen people use that person to signal aganist sonamy people multiple times before.
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>>572039807
Nigger
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>>572039653
Shadamy is just girls self-inserting as Amy because they have the "I can fix him" mindset that leads so many women to become infatuated with serial killers and you're right when you say that Shadamy fangirls change a lot about Amy's canon character just to make Shadamy look good. That's why they're being disingenuous when they Shadow and Amy have chemistry. It's just an attempt to UWU-ify Shadow
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>>572039807
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Why is it bad for fanon to exist?
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>>572039773
People legit read enough fanfiction and senpai content and mistake it for the actual characterization of the character after a while. Its how uwuvwer even exists to begin with. He was created by Fanon years before Evan even wrote for IDW. Or how people think Rouge is SA2 was way more curvaceous than she actually was because they just fap to DA stuff for years.
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>>572040214
Sometimes with fandoms I prefer to override the original with fanfiction, like with MHA.
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>amy bio drops with barely anything new
>18h (I left and returned multiple times throughout the day) long discussion about amy and shipping and it's just spinning in the same circle and repeating the same shit
>probably the same people, too
do you niggas really? am going to bed
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>>572040276
Why do you keep posting that?
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>>572032352
All you people in here say "we" as if there is over 20 posters in here lol. I doubt there is more than 8 and that's being generous.
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>>572039807
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>>572040036
i mean every ship is self insert desu but for the canon adjacent ships i can see ''where'' it comes from , it makes sense that sonic's match would be someone who simply chases him everywhere he goes or does. it makes sense for blaze to potentially like someone like silver inferring by the traits she is fond of or admires abstractly in general. it makes sense for rouge to admire shadow's ''pure'' mindset of not falling for her ''sexiness. heck even shadikal makes some sense for the dynamic people want out of shadamy. i feel like theres some stuff with actual base shadamyfags think or pay attention to even if it is misinterpratiation
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>currently the worse anniversary than Mario's mediocre anniversary this year
>entire stream of millennial retards donating to Jewish niggas while thebJP stream came later
>not the worse
Sonictwt is delusional
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>>572040214
i can see where uwuver comes from outside of fanfics, fanfics mostly take something that exists and twist it beyond recognizition. uwuver not IC but it had to come from somewhere.
>>572040612(also me)
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>twitter screencap
don't care, busy playing the crossworlds festival
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No matter how much Sonurge I see, I still can’t get around how ugly Surge actually looks. Sonogue is also shit but at least it’s pretty to look at.
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>>572040153
The problem with it is just the tendency for Fanon to worm its way into becoming new Canon because fans find their way into thr studio of official works.
This isn't even a unique thing to Sonic.
DC comics has the same issue.
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>>572021475
Why is Amy motorboating Sonic's chest like that
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>>572040824
Woman post. Your opinion is invalid.
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>>572040421
posting what? a sonic character?
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>>572040623
What do you expect from zoomer retards who talk like, "y'all bluds ong fr fr no cap asf (insert skull emoji and crying while laughing emoji)"? These are the same clowns who eat up any slop Sonic Team gives them as long as it has the Sonic brand name on it
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>>572020081
Is that Temu Omega Shenron
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>>572040963
Cope faggot, I like it when women actually look like women. Same reason why Sonally is more pleasant too despite also being shit.
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>>572041256
Yes, Surge looks ugly I know, you don’t have to give me more examples.
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>Sonally pleasant
>BPDemon chipmunk beating Sonic up
>BPDemon chipmunk bossing everyone around
Lol
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>>572040771
I think its more just a collection of a bunch of factors rather than any 1 concrete thing.
The one big thing that always comes up is the speech she gave to Shadow in SA2.
And that 1 route in Shad05 being called "something of love" where its if you do nothing but hero missions after meeting Amy in criptic castle. (The sequence itself being a reference to how Shadow turned good after chatting woth Amy in SA2.
I get the sense a lot of people simply do not actually get why Amy likes Aonic to begin with and think she just does because he is the main character and its just written that way that she does just because.
And so for them her thinking they look similar and having the same speed and abilities is enough.
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>>572040498
If Shadamy ever happens i’ll ship sonic with Surge, my priority is to see amy happy and loved by someone
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>>572040950
She likes cuddles.
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>>572041410
I mean pleasant to look at as in art. That’s why I made sure to say it’s actually shit.
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>>572041520
Why the fuck would it ever ever EVER happen? Use some common fucking sense retard
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>>572041437
i suppose tmosth played a part in it too even if its non canon
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>>572041520
Everyone already loves Amy!
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>>572012024
>>572012220
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>>572041721
Because people in charge of shit die or retire and get replaced by new people that wanna do shit differently
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>>572021475
>lightly taps a fucking huge hulking werehog
>is enough to knock him back
Why are we pretending the Knuckles knockout was OOC again?
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>>572040964
One cat standing can't be that interesting.
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>>572041765
I forgot about that. Shadow giving her tickets.
But I dont think it generated it more it just gave them more "ammo".
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I fucking hate that Sonurgefags give Surge this consistent bashful tsundere personality
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>>572041765
>>572042034
I wonder whose idea it was to put that into TMOSTH. So dumb
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>>572041437
the sa2 speech thing is funny because like these people would sibling code shadria.

but i get it
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>>572041910
Because Ian and Knucklesfags didnt like it since they are insecure powerfaggers.
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>>572041437
Sonic Team gave Amy dogshit sluggish gameplay for most of her appearances and that's why so many people think she just wants to be a boring housewife. It's the same shit they did with Silver. I'm supposed to take him seriously as Sonic's rival/equal but they gave him rancid bullshit gameplay, and he became a pussy in his characterization to match. No one pays attention to the dialogue, and to an extent, they shouldn't have to. The gameplay of the fucking video game should make it clear who the characters are.
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>>572041983
Blaze is cool, simple as. Do you not like fanart of sonic characters?
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>>572029297
>looks at the game they're from
are you surprised?
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A Holy grail, the only Surge and kit merch
>Comic-con 2025 exclusive
>limited to 300 pieces
>made out of fucking foam so they better stay inside their box
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>>572042034
i don't think it generated it either but i ve seen more shadamy in 2020s whereas shadamy was mostly niche compared to sonamy in 00s
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>>572042217
I'm not, it still sucks though. That game had a lot of cool characters never to be used again outside of the remake
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>>572042275
Why does SEGA America hate Kit?
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>>572042213
Depends on the artist.
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>>572039807
Dick shitting nipples is so 2007 anon
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>>572042212
I dont think gameplay had anything yo do with it.
Also Silver's psychokinesis does more than enough to sell him as a threat to Sonic.

That said I do think Amy's gameplay being inconsistent played a role in her being more divisive than Tails or Knuckles.
She still doesn't have a clear gameplay fantasy everyone can agree on.

You may not like it but people do like Silver's grabbing things and throwing them.

The main thing most people seem to agree is liking Amy's hammer vault. But its hard to incorporate into boost gameplay. Or even regular gameplay for the matter.
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Hell Yeah
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I counted ni more than 5 autistic faggot on here for the past 16 hours doing nothing but trying to ragebait shipping discussion and replying to themselves.

Niggers KILL. YOUR. SELF
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>>572042340
Sonamy in general has been on the decline ever since Amy's character has been shifted in general. Because it was mostly fueled by Amy's open affection and pursuit of him.

The people insisting they are "healthier now" are actually a minority. Everyone else thinks its boring now.
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>>572042213
>Blaze is cool
ok we found the issue
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>>572042924
Stupid mouth.
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>>572042940
Though it is nice to see the babylon rogues in the crossover, Jet being paired with kiteman isn't really a compliment anon.
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This has been the worst month in this general in a very long time.
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>>572042940
I posted that and said hell yeah earlier glad im not the only one that cares
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I wonder if this is actually duofag spamming these images or if it's a bot he set up like the tailsfag admitting to doing
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>I made a point to say its shit
>Because I want to disguise myself
>But I'm still a sallytroon TEEHEEHEE
>>572043274
FUCK OFF
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>>572043228
Not that anon but i think Roxy Rocket would have been a better fit for them, but IDW writers probably forgot about her or saw her as too sexual for the crossover plus kiteman has matching colors
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>>572043389
I want to believe it's a bot but this is duofag we're talking about. He spent his entire 2024 Xmas seething about a drawfag and to this day tries to play himself off as a le ebin shitposter who's above it all.
Same person who got caught replying to himself over 100 times too.
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>>572042795
>Also Silver's psychokinesis does more than enough to sell him as a threat to Sonic.
It sold him as a shitty boss fight in a game where they couldn't even get sonic to feel right.
>You may not like it but people do like Silver's grabbing things and throwing them.
It made him look and feel like an awkward dipshit so that's what he became in his writing



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