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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! here we discuss the sonic the hedgehog games that are canon

/sthg/ #9444 - sonamy edition

==NEWS==
> Sonic Frontiers: Definitive Edition Officially announced for Nintendo Switch 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlkkchmzVrA [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
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Tails!

>>572138321
These are very cute
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It's time
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Sally won so hard they had to reset the game and change the win condition (there's no win condition)

>>572138590
Sally won
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Thread #9444? Congraturation. I will take a nap now, anon-san. I am old and need rest. oyasumi
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>>572138590
Is Trip going to come back?
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>>572138750
You're 22 years old bro
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>>572138590
Will my parents have good health this year?
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>>572138590
Will local Tailsfags be struck by lightning and raped by raccoons
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>>572138678
is poopoo and peepee canon?
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>>572138678
Your character is fucking gaijin trash and amerimongrel fanfiction. never EVER let Americans write shit again.
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>>572138145
>which doesn't really make any sense.
Why not?
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>>572138590
is this guy >>572139025 non-canon slop that should be vaulted?
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>>572138576
>Why doesn't Sega offer an official way to buy their games?
Why the fuck do you wanna spend money on an old game? Are you a cuck?
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>>572138590
Did Sonic fuck Elise?
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>>572138590
I am not satisfied with the answer.
is poopoo and peepee canon and on brand?
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>>572139339
Elise isn't canon.
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>>572138906
Wellll...I CAN hydrokinesis a waterdick...hehehe
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>>572138590
IS POOPOO AND PEEPEE CANON?????
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>>572139289
Not him but I want to show SEGA support for those old games.
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>>572138590
Does Shadow cry himself to sleep thinking of Maria?
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>>572139649
Jerk off to Shadow crying? No you stupid totem
reroll
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>>572139637
iizuka said they'd rather make new games than remake old ones since a remake would cost the same
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>>572139217
>When have they ever had the time to do this?
Off screen
>Where were they in any previous adventures?
Off screen
>When did they get the time to do anything of the sort?
Off screen
>Why dictate their whole lives to doing just that?
Because it's the right thing to do. And Sally has a hero complex.
>Even the restoration is just volunteer work rather than some well oiled militia.
The FF are just Sally and her friends. She grew up with Rotor, Antoine and sometimes Bunnie. They follow her because she's their friend and princess.
>Sonic's world is supposed to overall be rather peaceful when Eggman isn't causing problems.
So are Marvel and DC but they still have no shortage of hero teams.
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>>572139923
When did I ever say anything about remakes
I don't want remakes, I hate remakes
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>>572138590
if eggman fell off a wall. would he crack and let out egg fluids like humpty dumpty?
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>>572139649
Yeah krack just jerk off fuck off
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>>572140271
Not your boogiewoman
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>>572140051
you can buy sa and sa2. and the classics are bundled in the origins (ugh) other games are limited by licensing crap (third party software) or UX checklist crap (handheld games) or they just don't give enough of a crap and think where they currently sell is enough (06 and unleashed on the xbox store)
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>>572140570
But what about Shadow 05?
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>>572140570
Yeah I know, I still want them to make them more available. Solve the licensing stuff and make the other games more accessible

>06 and unleashed on the xbox store
I bought those and all their DLCs. 2006 isn't available anymore though, only Unleashed is
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>>572140941
>Tails: femboy
>Nine: dudebro
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>>572140689
>>572140817
>limited by licensing crap (third party software)
third party game engine licensing if i got my info right. they need to contact whomever owns that engine now. I believe it's EA. but then iizuka said no more remakes of old shit. and sega doesn't like bothering with legal shit. they would rather drop MJ tracks from S3&K and let Archie and chronicles sink than go to court.
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>>572138678
Archie fags will post Sonic acting as OOC as possible and then get mad when you say this isn't Sonic and was rightfully retconned
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We are winning and you're whining
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>>572141196
>drop MJ tracks from S3&K
Those were never the real soundtrack anyway, just a failed marketing collaboration
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Douge
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If you take the idea that Tails is Sally's little bro, then it recontextualizes his leadership role in SA2. Because now it looks like he's maturing and following in his big sister's footsteps.
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>>572140941
>>572141145
Nine is such a faggot.
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>>572141340
the "real" soundtrack is lame compared to MJ's kino
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>>572141310
>losing to pokemon
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>>572141310
why does nintendo always make the same games
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>>572141384
>inb4 that one guy obsessed with Tails being Bunnie's little brother instead
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>>572141539
Money
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>>572141384
I don't like the idea of taking one of the game characters and mischaracterizing them just to make the Archie characters fit. It makes it seem like the Archie characters can't work unless one of the game characters is removed and replaced with their Archie counterpart
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>>572141539
Because every kid will buy Mario the second they see him.
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>>572141831
Why aren't they buying Sonic too
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>>572141903
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>>572141386
This, but unironically!
Nine suppresses his femboyism so much he's self-destructive, mentally-ill ,and closet-trains.
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>>572141539
Because as it turns out, people like eating the same shit over and over with only necessary changes to keep it from getting too stale
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Characterfags, what is the reason behind Sally kissing so many men?
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>>572141903
America dropped the ball
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>>572141903
sega's not making sonic exe games
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>>572141714
>I don't like the idea of taking one of the game characters and mischaracterizing them just to make the Archie characters fit
No one's mischaracterized. SA2 Tails is still SA2 Tails. You don't need to change Game Tails to give him a sister.
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>>572132183
You have to be retarded to think that Amy would support abortion considering how motherly she behaves towards critters and how she daydreams about marrying Sonic and starting a family with him. The moron who made the Twitter comment is another one of those angry, toxic, and hateful ultraliberals who in addition to having a strange and paradoxical affinity for fictional characters that are colorful, sweet, and good-natured, project their political views onto those fictional characters
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>>572142191
It hits me with the same problem as Shadamy. You changed the character's internal motivation from doing good to a basic hormonal response.
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>>572141386
>>572141985
You're the faggot, that is an actual man.
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>>572142215
Most abortion happens because the girl just didn't want the kid. Less than 1% is because of rape.
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>>572142347
The whole premise of Nine is "What happens to Tails when he doesn't get hedgehog dick on the regular". Typical canadian faggotry.
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>>572138242
When an anon makes a thread with this theme, you know the anon is based
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>>572142191
Giving Tails a biological sister calls into question how he was ever feeling alone before Sonic
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>>572142494
and the result is: sonic is a burden and makes everyone around him weak
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Even with Sally out of the picture Sonic has better options than Amy. You guys talk about "Game Sonic" all the time. Game Sonic wouldn't slow down for Amy. There is one girl who can keep up with him...
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>>572142372
That's true but these ultraliberals are too idiotic and dishonest to admit that
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>>572142191
I would argue with this but Sonic Team already mischaracterized Tails for ten years straight so it doesn't even matter anymore
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nice babs sonic threads
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>>572141985
>trains
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When Sonic Team writes a character OOC they do so much damage that you wish the character just fucking died instead
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>>572142959
hello luigi, want sum vodka?
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>>572142515
Boys need positive male role models to not grow up weird. Tails idolized Sonic because of how cool and awesome he is.
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Stop thinking about sex
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>>572139987
>Off screen
That doesn't make any sense
https://youtu.be/nOUksum3ETA?t=549

>Because it's the right thing to do. And Sally has a hero complex.
This isn't thematically in line with how the series works though.
>So are Marvel and DC
Thats just not true lol.
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I'm a train.

Choo choo, motherfuckers. Time to rape your tunnels in the railverse.
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>CrossWorlds festival has an SA2 and Riders decal
Son of a bitch I'm in
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>>572142372
Actually women pursue abortion for a wide range of reasons and seldom is it done for just one singular reason, but the most common reasons are linked to financial concerns, timing and partner related reasons.

In other words, Amy WOULD support abortion because she would totally put off having a baby until she gets Sonic.
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Tails! ^-^
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shadamy!
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>>572143423
>That doesn't make any sense
Make perfect sense
>This isn't thematically in line with how the series works though
And how does it work?
>Thats just not true lol.
Yes it is. Batman and Spidey aren't fighting in the post-apocalypse. Their words are in relative peace aside from the occasional event that gets undone in 6 issues or less.
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>What is Ten Ten's character
Tenten has more personality than most Sonic characters you dumb fuck
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>>572142215
>daydreams about marrying Sonic and starting a family with him.
When? At most there was Battle where she thinks Emerl is Sonic testing her on her ability to be a good mom, but thats a wild outlier. Battle Amy acts weird in general.
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>>572143550
Cope
>In other words, Amy WOULD support abortion because she would totally put off having a baby until she gets Sonic
She wouldn't be fucking anyone else. Why do you want her to be a hoe so bad?
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>Two anons approach sthg mansion
"Sure was nice for Bump to invite us for dinner."
"I sure hope she has a lot of cheesecake!"
>Sage peeks over the wall and laughs menacingly.
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Amy would only fuck Sonic
Sonic would never fuck anyone
is this difficult to grasp
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>>572142671
>and the result is: sonic is a burden and makes everyone around him weak
Fuck off, Lex.
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amy the gyaru slut
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Bun!
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>Get curious about Archie Sonic Adventure 2
>they adapt City escape perfectly
>instead of actually finishing the fucking story it skips ahead to some shitty relationship drama with Mina Mongoose
>apparently they only cover it again in a flashback in a different comic
are you fucking kidding me you american shits? even the movies didn't fuck this up.
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amy should become Shadow's WIFE
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>>572143406
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>>572141310
What the fuck happened? How did we take two top 10 slots on the biggest retailer on the planet?
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>>572143406
as heterogirl i do not find her attractice
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>>572143462
>Nine is the natural predator of Indians.
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>>572143869
>Make perfect sense
It doesn't though. Eggman's shit is usually localized. When it isn't, the world fucking military is involved and usually losing.
>And how does it work?
You can't assume a universal "its the right thing to do" in the setting because its not how the themes of the world works. Characters do things based on either how they feel or because something else is pushing them to do so.
I'd sooner buy Sally saw one of Sonic's exploits and that became her inspiration for trying to be a hero.
But now we are kinda just makong another Amy.
>>572143869
>Yes it is. Batman and Spidey aren't fighting in the post-apocalypse.
Anon the entire premise of Gotham is that it sucks there and its constantly infested with crime.
The DC universe does not operate under a utopian status quo. Evil and villains is treated as the norm as well as heroes appearing to fight it.
Its very manichaistic.

Also Sonic isnt DC or Marvel anyway.
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>doesn't compromise
I feel like Sega have wasted this character trait. The only time it ever comes up is to make other characters look like blithering retards for disagreeing with Sonic like with the moon stuff in Sonic X
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>>572143889
So we're just lying now.
She is a walking gimmick made to job to Temari.
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>>572144882
The first three arcs of IDW are about the damage Sonic caused by not compromising. He even says he'd do it all again and has nothing to apologize for
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>>572143550
The anon you replied to isn't wrong. Most women use abortion as birth control failing appropriate use of ACTUAL birth control.
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>>572144746
>It doesn't though.
It does so.
>Eggman's shit is usually localized.
So?
>When it isn't, the world fucking military is involved and usually losing.
And then Sonic shows up to save the day. Rinse and repeat. Same diff with the FF.
>Characters do things based on either how they feel or because something else is pushing them to do so.
Okay, Sally wants to be a hero and save everyone. But she lacked the power to do so so she relied on her brains instead. But here comes Sonic the Hedgehog who DOES have the power to save the world, yet he chooses to be an adventures over being a proper superhero.
>Anon the entire premise of Gotham is that it sucks there and its constantly infested with crime.
"RELATIVE" peace, dude. Look it up.
>The DC universe does not operate under a utopian status quo
Sonic doesn't either.
>Also Sonic isnt DC or Marvel anyway.
No shit, fuckwit. You get how comparisons work? Or are you one of those tards who think it has to be exactly the same with zero sense of nuance?
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>>572145152
To be fair, cumming in pussy raw is a feeling that surpasses the normal boundaries of sex. If we had the self-control to cum a less in woman, they'd have less abortions.
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>>572144882
I feel like some people (americans) only recognize character traits when the character looks at the screen and tells them they are doing le trait.
Sonic's unyielding nature is a constant in his character.
Like when he faces Merlina or when he collapses trying to save Chris.
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>>572145423
>If we had the self-control to cum a less in woman, they'd have less abortions.
Or maybe don't fuck the guy you don't want to have a kid with.
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>>572143984
Battle still counts as an example and Amy is just like that. She daydreams and fantasizes
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>>572145567
Nta but women literally do not have the mental capability to practice self control. What you are asking for is impossible.
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>>572145417
>Okay, Sally wants to be a hero and save everyone. But she lacked the power to do so so she relied on her brains instead. But here comes Sonic the Hedgehog who DOES have the power to save the world, yet he chooses to be an adventures over being a proper superhero.
The real reason this doesn't work is because even though this is true Sonic still ultimately fills the role of a superhero and saves the day so efficiently that he might as well be going out of his way to do it
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>>572145567
>telling virgins that women must be more selective
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>>572145567
Foids monkeybranch. It's literally just how they view relationships and society. It's part of their lizard brain. That's like asking a male to not care about sex.
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>>572144584
Stop kissing dark boi!
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the real problem with sally is that you can't have a character who is defined by disagreeing with gamenic without that character coming across as an idiot because of the way Sega writes Sonic
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Sallyfags are still trying to bargain?
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>>572145417
>It does so.
No not really no.
>So
What do you mean "so"? How the hell are they involved then?
You telling me Sally and thr FF were there for South Island and the Death Egg and and Station Square?
They were there for SA2 with the Eclipse canon? How?

>And then Sonic shows up to save the day. Rinse and repeat. Same diff with the FF
But how does that work? How are they actually doing or accomplishing anything?
>Okay, Sally wants to be a hero and save everyone. But she lacked the power to do so so she relied on her brains instead. But here comes Sonic the Hedgehog who DOES have the power to save the world, yet he chooses to be an adventures over being a proper superhero.
This doesn't work with your previous insistence though. If ahe was already doing heroics without Sonic, why would she suddenly want to force him to join her? Also Sonic is kinda world famous? Why would she only be wanting to do this now?

With Saitama and Fubiki, the whole idea is that Saitama is a nobody and Fubuki is an opportunist trying to take advantage of him being an unknown despite how OP he is to raise her ranks in thr Hero association.

That doesn't really work here.
>"RELATIVE" peace, dude. Look it up.
That's still bullshit though.
Sonic's world is legit smiles and sunshine except when Eggman starts shit.
>Sonic doesn't either.
It does though. Ian himself has even said as much on Bumblekast.
>No shit, fuckwit. You get how comparisons work
No you ignoramus. What you did is not a comparison. You did an equovocation.
Dumb assumption using words to try and sound smart when you have no clue what youre saying.
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>>572146359
Love all bois.
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Should i spam amy getting dicked?
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>>572145640
About being with Sonic and getting to go on adventures with him yes.
Amy doesn't strike me as the "picket fence with kids" type.
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>>572146751
Holy hfoma.
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>>572145725
Which is why she isn't going to stop asking him to join.
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>>572146465
>make character eho is symbolic of ehat the series views as good and virtuous
>why cant we undermine these virtues though? What if they are bad?
Modern American "writing" everyone.
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>>572146979
The story would effectively be saying on repeat
>This is Sonic, he is so cool for never joining the freedom fighters, look how silly Sally looks trying to tie down the wind. It's never going to happen because Sonic is the most self sufficient guy on earth forever
Don't we have enough of this?
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>>572146295
Too many women out there separate the guys they hook up with and the guys they'd marry, when they should be one and the same.
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>>572146960
drippy boy is not stupid!

he's just slappable like every kemoshota
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>>572147148
>Don't we have enough of this?
No?
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>>572146960
>>572146960
Doth thou swear fealty to me, the right-blokin' best dang waterqueen cap'n of all time?
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>>572146772
If Amy canonically fantasizes about marrying Sonic, then I don't consider it out of character for her to fantasize about starting with a family him
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>>572146465
And then if you do, it just comes across as the writer being retarded for making Sonic into an idiot for the sake of the other character being right. Maekawa is one of the few to understand how difficult it is to write Sonic, which is why once he left everything turned to shit
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>>572146772
Did someone say "picket fence"?
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>>572146979
But there is no pathos or message there. It would just be sally being an annoyance everyone dunks on for trying to force Sonic into an institution.
Which by itself isnt interesting. We have enough of that in basically every story just casually as a consequence of the events of the story before we even get into the messages or themes.
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>>572147119
This is why it doesn't work. Sally is a foil to Sonic with no powers, so she's just an ideological foil. How do you make an ideological foil to a character who represents freedom, adventure, fun, and inspiration who mainly expresses this trait through dialogue? She can't just argue with him like in the comics and SatAM because he would just leave. She can't badmouth him constantly, it would turn her into an unlikable strawman character. Chasing him would undermine the idea that she's analytical.
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>>572147357
"Yaar"
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>>572147212
Fiona you need to stop slapping kids.
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>>572147152
I cant help but feel this is guys projecting their own views on sex desu. Because lets be real, this is how guys think.
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>>572146751
Please tell me there's more of this.
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>>572147357
Me captain, kemololi
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Now that Marine has effectively cucked Kit out of his gimmick (even though Marine technically had it first), what's left for chronically depressed Tails who ain't good a science and stuff?
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>>572147516
This. Sally seems to represent responsibility and teamwork. I think that works in response to Satam and Archie Sonic but game Sonic is already pro-Team work and doesn't give a damn about responsibility. It would come across almost like a bad faith fanfic attacking Sally's character for existing in the first place.
The anon uses Fubuki as a comparison but Fubuki is literally the butt of the joke. She can't comprehend why Saitama won't join her, why he doesn't want to be her friend, why he keeps telling her to go away. We are not supposed to empathize with Fubuki, she's a gag character. Sally is relatively serious.
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>>572147771
Tentacles and sabotage.

Also, Marine is in another dimension.
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>>572147648
Kids need their life lessons and i'm the best teacher in town.
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why do merlina's clothes have irish patterns on them
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>>572147395
Both instances of Amy talking about marriage to Sonic have been banter though. I think outside of that it was Colors DS where it was just her overloading on repressed yume energy rather than anything serious.
I dont think Amy really thinks about or fantasies about a conventional picket fence husband and kids relationship really. Not that she would be hard against it but when she is fantasizing about Sonic and her being together I dont get the impression that is ehat she specifically has in mind at all.
More just them exploring the world together and it being romantic.

https://youtu.be/ZcYxdLTcGvA
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>>572147707
Women literally out themselves as being whores and willing to be im harems and share one guy everytime anyone tries to report which gender is more single.

Literally how else do you explain how only around 30% of guys are in a relationship but over 50+% of women claim they're in one. They only way that number adds up is if women are sharing men and knowingly doing so.
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>>572147570
Goodonya!
... Er, di'int think you'd say yes, so, um, you can be my 1st mate!
Nothin' but the call of a new venture...oh, and a tea party with the fire-princess on Sundays, but don't worry, she's nice.
And with that, we set sail, new bud!!
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>>572146772
>Amy doesn't strike me as the "picket fence with kids" type.
This was brought up in Sonic battle already. Amy wants kids, Rouge doesn't. This is used to show the difference between them.
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>>572147771
It's not that marine cucked kit since she had the powers before him, it's kit who failed to cuck marine and was cucked by everyone sega included.

And this, makes kit a failcuck.
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>>572148259
>More just them exploring the world together and it being romantic.
That's more her style, at least until they get older. But as the characters are written, Sonic enjoys his freedom and Amy is constantly seeking adventure. Just like Sonic isn't looking for romance at this point in his life, Amy isn't looking to settle down.
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>>572147498
Was waiting for it yes I did that on purpose.
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>>572147771
Getting killed off and Surge evolves into a full fledged hero.
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>>572146572
>No not really no.
Yes really yes
>What do you mean "so"? How the hell are they involved then?
They just are. You're overthinking something that doesn't need to be complicated.
>You telling me Sally and thr FF were there for South Island and the Death Egg and and Station Square?
Yeah why not? Those were old games limited by hardware to what story they could tell.
>They were there for SA2 with the Eclipse canon?
Sure.
>How?
They were on Earth while Sonic and co wer on the ARK. They were having their own mission and occasionally converge with Sonic and co offscreen. Simple shit. Plenty of media adds stuff like that all the time.
>But how does that work? How are they actually doing or accomplishing anything?
How is GUN? How are the Restoration? It's the same shit with the military in Godzilla movies. They fire all they got at the evil monster and it fails, so it's up to Big G to save the day.
>This doesn't work with your previous insistence though.
It does.
>If ahe was already doing heroics without Sonic, why would she suddenly want to force him to join her?
She wasn't. She's the Princess of West Side Island and Sonic shows up for Sonic 2 to happen. The Freedom Fighters become a thing to fight Eggman then, but Sonic's the one who ultimately blows up the Death Egg. No shit she'd want fucking Superman on her team of normies and 1 cyborg.
>Also Sonic is kinda world famous?
Yeah
>Why would she only be wanting to do this now?
Now?
>With Saitama and Fubiki, the whole idea is that Saitama is a nobody and Fubuki is an opportunist trying to take advantage of him being an unknown despite how OP he is to raise her ranks in thr Hero association.
>That doesn't really work here.
How bout you stop taking things so literally? You can't have a proper discussion that way if you're always interpreting every comparison to be 1:1 to the other thing.
>That's still bullshit though.
Nah
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>>572148040
We meet again, my mirrored self...
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>>572148553
>>572146572
weren't the freedom fighters in satam just "freedom fighters" as a direct response to eggman and not an actual crack team of warriors like in archie
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>>572148468
>on purpose
Good. The only VHS I have of that show has that episode on it, so I watched it a lot.
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>>572148427
He can apparently make ice too, right? So he has SOMETHING extra that Marine doesn't.
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>>572148525
Surge and Kit in general need their immortality powers nerfed.
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All this Sally talk reminds me why Knuckles isn't actually good at the whole Mountain to Sonic's wind, and really why most of the powerful rivals don't work as anything but strong guys that can fight Sonic over forced idiotic conflict. They can almost function as characters but they CAN'T challenge how Sonic does things
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>>572147539
This is why characters like Knuckles and Metal and Shadow were made because of confrontation of ideals is represented through them actually clashing in battle.
You can't argue your way around Sonic yet so many writers seem to want to specifically do this.
He doesn't give in or compromise.
You'd be better off doing what the DCAU did with Superman and have everyone just go "not worth trying to debate the guy.".

This is another thing that rubbed me the wrong way with PumpkinSeift's video where they said they wanted Sonic to actually accept he is jist wrong and then do better in IDW.
I dont get why people seem to think that would be deep or meaningful. It just feels like wanting the guy to be taken down a peg for its sake.
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Sally will never work in a game universe because she was specifically designed to be main character on the level of Sonic.
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>>572146572
>That's still bullshit though.
Nah, relative peace doesn't mean it's a utopia. It means it's peaceful compared to something else, which in this case is a post apocalyptic war ruled by a dictator. So yes, it's peaceful.
>Sonic's world is legit smiles and sunshine except when Eggman starts shit.
And so is the DCU and real life if you don't live in the crap areas.
>It does though. Ian himself has even said as much on Bumblekast
lol shut up, bro.
>No you ignoramus.
Ew, dork. Just curse me out like a normal person, bro.
>What you did is not a comparison. You did an equovocation.
No
>Dumb assumption using words to try and sound smart when you have no clue what youre saying
My guy, you're too autistic to not take things literally. Just take the L and walk away.
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>>572148786
I feel like Surge and Kit's immortality/healing powers were basically soft-retconed away because the franchise is never going to be violent enough to actually showcase that ability in a meaningful way.
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>>572148585
(You)... (You) can't handle my gravity!
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>>572147934
On another note, this is also i think partially why Lanolin get so much heat and just came off like an unlikable idiot to so many people.
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>>572149157
who invited the aussies?
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>>572148859
Pumplinswift's video annoyed me because he was so close to getting it. He admitted that "due to sega mandates a lot of these ideas can't be fully explored".... Yes? That's the entire fucking problem. The concepts IDW is introducing can't actually be explored because you have to bend and break Sonic's character for it to work.
>>572148968
This. She's supposed to be Sonic's counter in a way like Knuckles. Satam Sally can survive having the "love interest" part removed but Archie Sally can't. Satam Sally is basically the actual narrative protagonist of the show and trying to rework her concept to bickering with game Sonic would make her difficult to tolerate.
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>>572148709
BEHOLD

KIT, THE ICE DISPENSER!
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None of you know how redundant abilities work.

>>572148165
Merlin might've been syncretized from welsh and celtic myths.
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>>572148705
>weren't the freedom fighters in satam just "freedom fighters" as a direct response to eggman and not an actual crack team of warriors like in archie
Yes, but they were that in Archie too. The reboot made their origin rely on Sonic 1 and 2, with the tram being formed to combat Eggman's takeover of the islands.
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>>572149090
I think it existed to have Surge and Kit tank hits that would kill non-main characters.
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>>572149243
Lanolin's whole schtick would work if she was actually tied to any of the western Sonics who are just cocky reckless retards who cause problems all the time, instead she's tied to game Sonic so the audience is judging her as someone who has a problem with the guy from SA2 and SATBK
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>>572147771
Kit didn't cuck or get cucked out of anything because SOJ isn't autistic about the overlap thing everyone here created in their heads. Besides, he doesn't have the same powers as Marine. Marine has innate water abilities, she can generate it at will. Kit needs the backpack which absorbs water vapors to output something. If he's stuck in a desert, he's shit out of luck. He could probably synergize with Marine. Marine could manipulate his water and he could gain more by using the evaporated water particles of her powers.
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>>572149378
>Satam Sally is basically the actual narrative protagonist of the show and trying to rework her concept to bickering with game Sonic would make her difficult to tolerate.
The issue is that the anins here think you NEED to have Sally bicker with Sonic to make her work, because they don't understand that SatAM Sally and Archie Sally are 2 different characters
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>>572148323
>Women literally out themselves as being whores and willing to be im harems and share one guy everytime anyone tries to report which gender is more single
You're giving em too much credit thinking they thought it through when they say that.
>>572148323
>over 50+% of women claim they're in one.
>claim
Do the math.
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>>572149280
Nevermind, i'm back in evropa.
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>>572148789
>Pushing Silver by his head
What a dick
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>>572149568
>Lanolin's whole schtick would work if she was actually tied to any of the western Sonics who are just cocky reckless retards who cause problems all the time
So she needs to be paired with Tangle.
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>>572148425
Read the rest of the post. It was less Amy saying she wants kids and more her thinking its a test from Sonic to see if she i good wife material.
Battle Amy is weird in general, even for me as a person who is a Battle Amy apologist.
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>>572149157
Not bad, quite clever... but I can stand horizontally on the wall, for I cannot aford to turn my back on you any more! (It's a skill I learned while dimension-hopping.) Now what exactly ARE you, "Fiona?"
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>>572149652
I think you could leave Sally's characterization alone and just reduce her to a side character. The amount of rework it would take to keep her dynamic with Sonic is basically just inventing a new character.
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>>572149660
>>claim
>do the math.
So a majority of them are willful liars or they are sharing men.
Idk which one sounds kinder here.
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>>572149568
Most of the people writing and drawing the comic are Archie fans of of course they have Western Sonic in the mind when they make characters.
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A lot of you guys seem to forget that in order to stay with the themes of the franchise, characters who vehemently disagree with Sonic are usually stupid or immoral.
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You know, /sthg/ I've been feeling mighty hungry today and this sounds weird I know but you guys are looking pretty good, like really good for some reason.
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>>572148435
Right. I can see when Amy gets older she starts thinking about that more but not now or anytime soon. Its really not on her radar or a priority for her.
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>>572149425
It was mostly used in their mini-series for shock value, and even then, it wasn't too different from the usual cartoon violence IDW uses for gags.

Since the mini, Surge and Kit's regen hasn't been brought up.
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>>572149961
>think you could leave Sally's characterization alone and just reduce her to a side character
Generally, she'd be one yeah. But her initial story would focus on her and her struggles, with Sonic being the guy who moves the plot forward.
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>>572148435
>>572150229
sonic won't marry your waifu even if he gets older. just sayin
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>>572149949
So you learn skills, uh?
Well too bad, my sophisticated clone. I'm already born with every skill i need!
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>>572148786
... *ahem* Kit, uh doesn't have Surge's regen powers......
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Another namefags are in fact just one and the same person
Just discovered th
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>>572150368
Didn't several devs create their own waifu for Sonic?
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How many namefags are the same? I know Krack is Quark
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>>572149652
Both SatAM Sally and Archie Sally are supposed to be a "b-side" to Sonic and Sally's entire concept just doesn't work for Game Sonic.
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>>572149949
who invited the penguins from the south pole?
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Anyone has that Sally character thing for SatAM?
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>>572150570
She's kind of in the same position as Prime Shadow in Satam
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GET OFF THE WALLS FIONA
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>>572150706
What this?
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>>572150368
Step aside, uncle. The real dad has already spoken.
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Why can't Sally be like that police captain character that chastises the hero guy for being a loose cannon? But dude's too cool to listen so he fucks off and does his own thing anyway.
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>>572150143
It makes sense since Sonic in the games isn't a conceited or misguided person. There is really no reason to dislike him in-universe unless you just don't understand the situation, envious of him, or have bad intentions.
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>>572150706
The chroniclesfag character sheet?
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>>572150434
Foolish Fool, Faker Fiona! Everyone knows that (YOU) are the copy!
>>572150674
Hey, Green Scourge! Why don't (You) help settle this matter?
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>>572150916
The "real dad" has the same stance. that post was sending them off professionally and smoothly in a level so high that neither them nor you are aware that you are being sent off
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>>572150936
The only reason Spider Man can have these is because he stays in the same city
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>>572151007
That one yeah.
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>>572150316
>Since the mini, Surge and Kit's regen hasn't been brought up.
There has been nothing to require them to regen.
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>>572151007
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>>572151007
You'd think the Japs would like Sally since they love Zelda so much.
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>>572151084
That's about the present, not the future. Nice try, though.
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>>572148553
>overthinking
You say this for literally everything. Then when things like IDW do the thing you claim people are overthinking, it becomes a problem everyone criticizes.

>>572148553
>Yeah why not? Those were old games limited by hardware to what story they could tell.
How would they even be there if Sally is supposed to be a princess? They are supposed to be remote islands that arent even on any maps.

>>572148553
>Sure
It literally makes no sense. Eggman is localized to his hidden pyramid base in that game when he isnt fucking up the military or on the ARK which no one else has access to.

>>572148553
>They were on Earth while Sonic and co wer on the ARK.
Doing what? See above.

>>572148553
>How is GUN? How are the Restoration?
GUN is actively robbing and the restoration arent actually doing or accomplishing anything nor is it an actual military force of any kind. Its a volunteer effort where people just fix shit.
>They fire all they got at the evil monster and it fails, so it's up to Big G to save the day.
Yes. What does this hav to do with Sally or the FF?
>She's the Princess of West Side Island and Sonic shows up for Sonic 2 to happen.
So we are just gonna retcon all of Sonic 2 and turn it from a remote islands getaway Sonic goes to for a vacation and meets Tails to be about how Sonic invaded Sally's home?
Why?
>Now?
Yes now
You can't just act like she was always there.

>1:1
I am not doing that. I am explaining why it worked there but doesn't here. The world and setting are too different so it doesnt land.
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>>572151361
>Sonic has a boy's heart forever
Sonic's character
>If sonic didn't have a boy's heart
if sonic was OOC
>he's choose amy
being sent off in a pleasant way
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Shadow is 4 years old
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>>572151310
It's because her design doesn't match Sonic. Her proportions are off.
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>>572151310
>>Merimutts with their 'muhfreedum'
>has the Acorn monarchy autism
>>Bitbongs with their 'oimuhqueen'
>turns Sally into a civilian rando
Make it make sense.
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>>572151263
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Tails probably got teased a lot by Bunnie and Sally when puberty started to hit him.
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>>572148705
They were still a response to Eggman in Archie.
Which is why the comic spins its weels for years until they just bring Eggman back to the original status quo.

Archiefags will somehow criticize the games for status quo never changing btw.

yes im aware of MechaRobotnik. It doesn't counter the point
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>>572151263
>Eggman doesn't turn people into robots
Excuse me?
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These bios were by Shadally Scribbles the Chronicles Anon?
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>>572148789
Why do they need to in order to work though?
I feel like 9/10 what people are actually saying is they don't agree with Sonic's way of life or values or the message if the series and would rather someone else become the main character.
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>>572151074
How dare (You)! I was the original (once, for a limited edition).
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>>572151729
He "puts" them into robots
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>>572151729
you have that tails cyborg thing in lost world but otherwise you don't really have anything like that
...Unless you count IDW but that's not in the games...
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>>572151729
Eggman does not convert organic life into machines.
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>>572151074
>>572151995
JUST FUCK ALREADY
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>>572151785
Krack says she can tell it's him
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>>572149014
>Nah, relative peace doesn't mean it's a utopia. It means it's peaceful compared to something else, which in this case is a post apocalyptic war ruled by a dictator. So yes, it's peaceful.
You arent conversing in good faith.
>And so is the DCU and real life if you don't live in the crap areas.
No it isn't. Every town that isnt a 3rd world shithole on DC is filed with like 20 super villains minimum causing trouble on the regular.
>oh shut up bro
Oh im sorry did my actual evidence hurt your made up narrative?
>No
Yes
>>572149014
>My guy, you're too autistic to not take things literally. Just take the L and walk away.
Thats a nice non-argument while indignantly calling yourself the "winner" of an internet disagreement.
Grow up
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>>572152329
Krack is a weirdo stalker
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>>572151007
Will we ever get an Archie version of this to show the difference between Sallys?
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>>572152449
He probably made one for every character he uses since he has things like Movienic.
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>>572151460
>You say this for literally everything
Because you're overthinking everything just like every autist.
>How would they even be there if Sally is supposed to be a princess? They are supposed to be remote islands that arent even on any maps.
She's the Princess of West Side Island, just like in the reboot. This is what I mean by you overthinking. You're too technical with zero sense of creativity and imagination.
>It literally makes no sense.
It makes sense.
>Eggman is localized to his hidden pyramid base in that game when he isnt fucking up the military or on the ARK which no one else has access to.
Read my post again.
>GUN is actively robbing
?
>and the restoration arent actually doing or accomplishing anything
Because they're not Sonic, duh
>nor is it an actual military force of any kind.
The FF aren't either. They're just Sally and her friends playing hero.
>Its a volunteer effort where people just fix shit
And the FF would volunteer to help where they can.
>Yes. What does this hav to do with Sally or the FF?
Use your head, bud.
>So we are just gonna retcon all of Sonic 2 and turn it from a remote islands getaway Sonic goes to for a vacation and meets Tails to be about how Sonic invaded Sally's home?
What? Bro, where's your brain going?
>You can't just act like she was always there.
Yeah you can. It's exactly what SEGA wanted for Sticks but autistic lorefags like Ian refused that and tried to make her an Angel Island native who meets the characters for the first time.
>I am not doing that.
You are.
>I am explaining why it worked there but doesn't here. The world and setting are too different so it doesnt land.
Becsuse again, you lack the imagination to make it work. This is my problem with you guys. You're too technical-minded for storytelling. Too stuck in rules with zero ability to think outside the box.
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>>572151120
Eh, I guess Surge's regen ability is just kinda understated and boring, lol.

For the record, when she fell down the pit and got crushed by debris she vaguely recovers and her regen ability was mostly ignored when she fought Whisper.
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>>572152329
Anyone who's paid even a little bit of attention can
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>>572151547
>It's because her design doesn't match Sonic. Her proportions are off
The reboot fixed that.
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If you're not Sonic, but you exist in HIS WORLD, then you might as well kill yourself. You're just an npc. Sonic is the only real character.
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>>572152159
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>>572152329
Krack the Scribbwhisperer
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>>572151120
I mean, there was this/
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>>572152817
I personally think her Reboot design looked kinda wonky.
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>>572150936
>Why can't Sally be like that police captain character that chastises the hero guy for being a loose cannon?
You mean like Lanny in IDW?
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>>572153084
What was Sally's head so damned spherical in the reboot?
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>>572152368
>You arent conversing in good faith
Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't mean I'm not conversing in good faith. Grow up.
>No it isn't.
Yes it is
>Every town that isnt a 3rd world shithole on DC is filed with like 20 super villains minimum causing trouble on the regular
And the heroes defeat them with no problems unless it's Gotham. A city with a few shootouts and some crime here and there can still be called peaceful, my guy.
>Oh im sorry did my actual evidence hurt your made up narrative?
Nah, the fact you're taking Ian's word seriously is funny to me
>Yes
No
>Thats a nice non-argument while indignantly calling yourself the "winner" of an internet disagreement. Grow up
lol
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>>572151007
>She is made up entirely of things third parties aren't allowed to do anymore
KEK
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>>572153385
Shadow the Hedgehog
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>>572153338
Because they wanted her closer to her original design. It's why she's orange instead of brown.
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>>572153385
Boom Knuckles
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>>572149090
Yeah I think their regen is to compensate for them being way weaker than Sonic and co, so they make up for it by just being very resilient.

>>572149378
The fundental issue is Pumkon Swift sees Sonic as just the surface level traits of being confident rocky fast and blue and treats all the things he stands for and represents narratively as not being tied into his character.
I dont get this in general people that seperate a character's narrative from the character.
They also seem to just think a character isn't a "real character" unless they are punished or scolded by the story or other characters.
It's frustrating.

>>572149568
Pumpkin Swift's argument seems to be that Sonic needs to be changed to be a character who is unrealized and goes through an arc to become realised because having him help other characters evolve as people is a "diceroll" whereas doing it with Sonic will work because he is Sonic and the main character of the series.
But that argument is so self evidently wrong given the fact we are even having these arguments to begin with.
The reason peoplr are invested in seeing Sonic is because he is Sonicx te guy from SA2 and Black knight.
If the trouble and arc thr character you superimpose on Sonic is good enough to carry a story, why do you need to make Sonic a Trojan horse for it to begin with?
Just make good tagalongs for Sonic to interact with. Otherwise its just gonna cause problems.
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>>572153385
Anon the human
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>>572150007
Obviously they are liars. The top % of men arent collecting multiple women.
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>>572150143
Some people don't like this because it triggers the same instinct in their head that makes them hate the whatever is popular.
Bunch of Sam Mansons trying to turn Sonic into Danny Fenten.
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>>572151910
???
I'm saying that they can't challenge Sonic as far as clashing ideology


>what people are actually saying is they don't agree with Sonic's way of life or values or the message of the series and would rather someone else become the main character
To me the message of the series is Sonic is always right (I'm being cheeky here but it's direct). None of the characters can do anything regarding that, and any confrontation SHOULD result in the other character growing and becoming more like Sonic

>Why do they need to in order to work though?
The problem arises when people take what the character is meant to be (the mountain, the dark sonic, the light sonic, etc) as something to be respected and expected to be more than flavor text. The characters already "work" but not in a way that could be fulfilling because, again, they don't do anything besides forced idiot plots so that they can punch Sonic
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>>572154195
They are people who would genuinely hate Sonic if he was real.
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>>572153509
It's TOO spherical. She has a bowling ball for a head. It looks ridiculous.
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>>572154298
It's funny how Prime is a big example of western mischaracterization but the show still operates by the rule that all characters must eventually bend to accept Sonic's ways
Except Amy
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>>572148789
Sonic doesn't preach his beliefs. So characters who try to debunk or counter them just look like butthurt bitches who are just being confrontational.
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>>572153657
>their regen is to compensate for them being way weaker than Sonic and co

I actually don't think so, I think it was made specifically for the mini-series as a edgy, but fun, reference to the lives system in older Sonic games, without much forethought for the rest of the series. This isn't a bad thing, it works really well for the mini, but now it feels kinds superfluous for the characters because it's rare for Sonic's adventures get that canonically violent.
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Why is it always gay sex in these catbox links?
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Sallyfags basically want Sally to be thr Diana Lombarde to Sonic's Martin Mystery, but that doesn't work eith the themes of the series.

A lot of shows in the late 90s and early 2000s jist did thos thing where the male lead is a knuckles head and the female lead is his better half who is level headed and keeps him in check and thats just not what Sonic is.
Sonic isn't Spiderman.
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>>572154847
>Sonic isn't Spiderman.
ehm
>>572098112
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>>572151263
Reading this, Bunnie really is just carried by the fact she is a cyborg desu.
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>>572154680
Nah, it was clearly created to survive Sonic and Tails' attacks and be an advantage against them.
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The discussions of these threads would make one think that Sonic is the most important character in all of fiction
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>>572155030
People usually say Bunnie firs the games the most but she can't fit because the cyborg part doesn't add up
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So when people were predicting Lanny would be the "New Sally", what do you think they mean? Cause she sure as hell ain't gonna be a love interest of Sonic.
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>>572155106
He is
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>>572147771
Being a recurring villain
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>>572155106
to the outside world sonic is known for
>going fast
>weird fetish art
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>>572155360
Satam Sally is more of a foil than a love interest. Still not the same as Lanolin
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>>572155360
When they say that they mean "bossy bitch".
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>>572151729
>its 2026 and people still dont know this
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>>572155360
They saw a woman in cargo pants and assumed she would be a girlboss like Sally. That is as far as their neurons could muster
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>>572155030
>>572155242
Tails already took the role of "Cyborg" in Lost World. So much so that he became one in the DC crossover as well.
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>>572155671
>a girlboss like Sally.
Sally is not a girlboss i.e. lesbian who hates men and is great at everything. That feminist trope didn't exist yet.

Sally (in SatAM) was an ice queen. A contrast to Mohawknik being a Hothead.
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>SALLYSALLYSALLYSALLYSALLY
>WE MUST DISCUSS COMIC BOOKS NOT VIDEO GAMES
>SALLYSALLYSALLYSALLY
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>>572152643
>Because you're overthinking everything just like every autist.
No, you are just dismissing legitimate points of conflict because they are inconvenient.
>She's the Princess of West Side Island, just like in the reboot.
The reboot was ass and can kiss my ass. It only works in the comics because its retconning the past rather than retconning a series where they dont exist to force them in.
If Sally and thr FF are to be introduced into the gamesz they would have to be established as a new thing. Not just treated like they were always there and rewrite the entire setting on Tails' intro game to have been about Sally all along.
That's dumb and frankly disrespectful.
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Lanolin will always be a failed OC no matter how much ABT glazes her.
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>>572155948
feel free to go to /v/.. or to go back to your psych ward with the rest of the funny people
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Cyborgs are such a common sci-fi trope that I'm rather shocked that official Sonic hasn't done anything substantial with it.
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>>572156006
Has any OC ever succeeded?
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>>572152882
By many people's argument sonic isnt a character since he is a force of nature like Godzilla. Everyone else is the character.
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>>572156135
Sonic
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>>572156135
I guess Whisper.
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group home =/ pysch ward you idiot + sally isn't a fucking sonic charcater she's amerimongrel trash
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>>572156006
>Failed OC
>Made it into a game
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>>572156262
kek
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>>572156272
why do you live at a group home
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go back to your hospital then, retard.
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>>572156262
I mean, that's true.
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>>572153340
>Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't mean I'm not conversing in good faith. Grow up.
Pot calling the kettle black.
>>572153340
>And the heroes defeat them with no problems unless it's Gotham.
The universe does not treat the world like a happy-go-lucky paradise. You're just making up positions to be oppositional.
Compare to Sonic where the fucking planet gets cracked into several pieces by Eggman and everyone is still cavalier about life until night hits and the dark Gaia energy makes them into doomers.
>Nah, the fact you're taking Ian's word seriously is funny to me
Considering how annoyed and pissed Ian was about this information, I dont see why I would need to not take it for what it is. Its supported by what's in the games.
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>>572156135
What's your definition of success?

>>572156267
>implying Whisper succeeded
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>>572156006
>>572156342
Sonic Team cared more about her than hardlight. Kit fans had to beg for him, but she showed up unprompted
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>>572156425
its not your business and im with family again
>572156460
>more forcing gaijin fanfiction
>more forcing amerimongrel media
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>>572155360
the whole video was bullshit
he said in the very first sentence she's not but kept going
>he also said sega was somewhat worried about naming and introducing new characters like they aren't doing that en masse now
>he said she blamed herself before anybody else and she was the material for a leader
back to sally
>female leader = sally
>lanolin took her place
>lanolin debated with sonic during the robotnik city raid
that's it
and obviously sally is way more than that

even tho, genesis sally is way more like lanolin because sally actually was vulnerable while being a leader
just like lanolin was in that eggcity
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Lanolin's tits succeeded.
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>>572156460
Ian Flynn's anonymous account
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>>572156621
>its not your business
then why did you bring it up
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>euros awake
>fucking dead
>Burgers awake
>Shipping and shitting
Noticing
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why did your mum not abort you
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>>572156703
euros awake during american hours are shitposters too apparently
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>>572156959
Why can't we have normal thread for once?
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>>572156529
...You know, I don't even know what the definition of a failed OC is. I guess popularity but that doesn't mean much. See Sally still getting pushed by a small group of people.
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>>572154298
>I'm saying that they can't challenge Sonic as far as clashing ideology
They can. Nothing prevents Sonic from losing a fight.
The point just can't be that Sonic is wrong and needs to change into someone else's ideology.
Because then you would be saying the entire series was wrong all along.


>None of the characters can do anything regarding that, and any confrontation SHOULD result in the other character growing and becoming more like Sonic

I think this is a misread. Its not necesarily that everyone should become more like Sonic. Well I guess it more just depends in which sense you mean it.
Mostly the series just asserts that characters do questionable or bad things because of undressed grief and not being open hearted. How that ends ot manifests for the person is down to the respective character.
For Shadow, it ends in him being a dark hero with nothing left to lose.
A sort of dark inversion of Sonic's shtick for example. The series doesnt treat this as wrong.
Same with Blaze and her duty to her kingdom.
>The problem arises when people take what the character is meant to be (the mountain, the dark sonic, the light sonic, etc) as something to be respected and expected to be more than flavor text. The characters already "work" but not in a way that could be fulfilling because, again, they don't do anything besides forced idiot plots so that they can punch Sonic
I mean Knuckles sure, but anyone else?
Shadow beefs with Sonic because they have an anime rivalry. Metal is just evil robot made to beat him. Silver was also just tricked.
Merlina wasn't an idiot or tricked or anything. The game doesn't even say she is necesarily wrong, but that her actions are fueled by grief and she wouldn't do it if not for that.
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>>572151007
>Princess of the mandate kingdom
>Ultimate representation of Sega of America
LMAO
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>>572154680
I think what Ian was going for was that they are a permanent consequence for the Metal Virus incident that will never go away.
I don't like this though because now we are just trying to turn Sonic into Shadow.
There isn't much place for Surge and Kit to go other than be redeemed.
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>>572155006
Anon...
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>>572155919
>Sally (in SatAM) was an ice queen. A contrast to Mohawknik being a Hothead.
So Game Sally would be...?
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>>572157667
>There isn't much place for Surge and Kit to go other than be redeemed.
Or to just be Vaulted.
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>>572156141
Just because Sonic is shallow as fuck that doesn't mean he isn't a character.
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>>572157829
A noncombatant NPC who spouts exposition and tells Sonic not to do something stupid and is correct half the time.

It's all very utilitarian. Bonus points if they keep her looking really sexy for fanservice.
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Sonic is flash, read the crossover you idiots
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>>572155979
>If Sally and thr FF are to be introduced into the gamesz they would have to be established as a new thing
No they don't. They could just exist as part of the setting. They didn't just pop into existence yesterday.
>Not just treated like they were always there
Why not?
>and rewrite the entire setting on Tails' intro game to have been about Sally all along. That's dumb and frankly disrespectful.
Ah, I see. You're a Tailsfag. Makes sense.
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>>572157261
I guess a failed OC would be one that is rejected and memory-holed by Sega and has too limited of fanbase suppoert so they don't have any staying power beyond the official franchise. So like Sticks, Shade, Tiara, Segapede etc.
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>>572158068
Does Flash's supporting cast do anything meaningful? If the answer is no, then Sonic is indeed Flash.
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>>572138590
is the next post canon to ed,edd n eddy lore?
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>>572158160
>Segapede
I have never heard of this before.
Bowser's inside story before Mario
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>>572155360
At this point I think what all this Sally autism really amounts to is that Sally was conceived as a equal complement to Sonic so she just has a stupid amount of traits and roles lumped into her. Whatever Sonic wasn't, she was.
So every character looks like Sally to Sallyfags.

Beyond that, Sally was made to be the finger that was at Sonic to try and keep him in line and criticize his actions to "force him to be a proper hero". At least archetpyically that is how she is seen and understood.
So for people who expect this dynic by default, any character who they see as doing this ever is ticking thr Sally powerlevel detecto.

>>572156121
I mean technically we have Shadow who is a genetic experiment.
Thinking about it now, Conventional cyborg arent all that comon in japanese media. You either get Androids, Modified humans with machine parts inside of them or you get machine bodies with the brain or mind/soul transplanted into it.

Half human half robot designs are kinda rare.
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>>572156485
>Pot calling the kettle black
lol sure bud.
>The universe does not treat the world like a happy-go-lucky paradise.
Because Marvel and DC want to be "mature" and "realistic".
>You're just making up positions to be oppositional.
No, you're just not getting it
>Compare to Sonic where the fucking planet gets cracked into several pieces by Eggman and everyone is still cavalier about life until night hits and the dark Gaia energy makes them into doomers
Big diff is that Sonic is for kids while cape comics wanna pretend they aren't for kids.
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>>572157861
I mean, once you redeem them you might as well
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>>572158040
How is he shallow? Complex =/= deep
Complexity is horizontal. Depth is vertical.
You dont go deeper with a wide disc sanding blade. You use a jack hammer or a drill.
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>>572157829
Satam Sally was never an ice queen. She's an extroverted girlboss
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>>572158058
>A noncombatant NPC who spouts exposition and tells Sonic not to do something stupid and is correct half the time.
>It's all very utilitarian. Bonus points if they keep her looking really sexy for fanservice.
I see the vision.
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>>572159039
She took down 2 mavericks all by herself
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>>572158150
>They didn't just pop into existence yesterday.
They would have to be established as having formed relatively recently or only started trying to fight back Eggman after the Forces war. Anything prior feels stupid.
>Tailsfag out of nowhere
You cant be serious
>makes sense
What relevance would it even have?
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>>572157667
Redemption or permanent friendly asshole are the only options
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>>572158552
>Conventional cyborg arent all that comon in japanese media.
They tend to look cool when they do though. So that's nice.
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>>572158373
Flash has the same kind of problem where the only characters that can usually be made relevant around Flash is other speedsters.
Flash only gets away with it most of the time because he stays in 1 city and stops regular crime on top of villains who are mostly just souped up regular criminals.
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>>572158552
>of traits and roles lumped into her. Whatever Sonic wasn't, she was.
The pilot established that Sally hates rock music for example
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>>572150936
Wouldn’t that be the GUN dude or something?
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>>572158058
>Bonus points if they keep her looking really sexy for fanservice.
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>>572159157
>They would have to be established as having formed relatively recently or only started trying to fight back Eggman after the Forces war.
No they don't.
>Anything prior feels stupid.
Sounds like a personal problem.
>What relevance would it even have?
Same can be said for the characters that stick around for no reason. What's a few more?
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>>572158058
>and tells Sonic not to do something stupid and is correct half the time.
This is step 1 to fucking up Sonic's character to make room for Sally. Sonic does whatever he wants and doesn't compromise. He doesn't need a tardwrangler.
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>>572158664
>Because Marvel and DC want to be "mature" and "realistic".
Bullshit. They weren't even like that back in Golden or Silver age.
>you're just not getting it
You're so egotistical you cant fathom someone disagreeing with you without it not just being them being to stupid to get it.
>Sonic is for kids
So what? So many kids series dont have the utopian setting Sonic does. Sonic has it because its an intentional design choice. You were never meant to view it as a gritty dystopia or like capeshit where Sonic is a superhero fighting all kinds of badguys.
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>>572159039
Can you hear me, Axl?
Can you hear me, Zero?
Can you hear me, X?
Can you hear me, Sonic?
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>>572157667
Maybe, but Surge and Kit don't really reflect how the Metal Virus was during its storyline.

Can you imagine if Surge and Kit regen functioned like picrel?
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>>572159530
>What relevance would it even have?
>Same can be said for the characters that stick around for no reason. What's a few more?
My bad. Forgot where the conversation was going for a bit there. But yeah, you being a Tailsfag makes sense with your rigid takes.
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You shouldn't have to invent new character traits for a character dynamic. The dynamic should express the traits that are there. If you absolutely need to introduce a new trait you should be able to explain why it was never expressed in similar context before.
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>>572159579
>Sonic does whatever he wants and doesn't compromise.
But he isn't always correct. He comes out on top in the end but he's not infallible.
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>>572159234
>digimon
Monster designs are kind of an obvious exception, but Digimon is an exception in general even for Japanese franchises.
Having a sort of western influence was part of it from the beginning.
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>>572159852
The reason people are against Sally in the first place is writers leaning way too hard into making Sonic cocky or stupid to justify someone telling him off. It's a good way to pit the audience against a newbie.
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>>572159002
Bro Sonic and his entire franchise is shallow. You said yourself he isn't deep. He just goes fast and smashes things. He's a child. Everyone else is just more so because they're just props who exist to glaze Sonic.
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>>572159530
>No they don't.
Yes they do.
You have an obsession with just superimpose reboot into the games and its frankly obnoxious.
>Sounds like a personal problem.
Literally no u
>>572159530
>Same can be said for the characters that stick around for no reason. What's a few more?
"Hey man im already obese, what's a few cigarettes and a gallon of beer?"
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Sonic the self insert hog
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All the Archie and Fleetway OCs died during the Eggman war. Sonic Forces was a way for them to quietly kill off a large swath of character. Shade and the Nocturnus were also murdered by Eggman during the war.
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>>572159623
>Bullshit. They weren't even like that back in Golden or Silver age.
No shit, but it's what they've been doing for decades now. Never said they were ALWAYS doing it. Nuance, bud.
>You're so egotistical you cant fathom someone disagreeing with you without it not just being them being to stupid to get it.
But you are too stupid and stubborn by virtue of your autism. You lack the ability to register nuance and take everything at face value. Someone like that can't be a storyteller since they lack the imagination to be one.
>You were never meant to view it as a gritty dystopia or like capeshit where Sonic is a superhero fighting all kinds of badguys.
But Sonic is fighting bad guys.
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>>572159367
Other speedsters who are slower than Flash, so there's really no point at which he should ever be hurt.
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>>572159852
Protip, if your Sonic comes across any less intelligent then the games you will get the Pontaff treatment from fans. The only game that really goes into Sonic being reckless and wrong was LW
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sonic is the adult amongst children
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>>572160204
Fiona tanked that
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>>572160187
>You have an obsession with just superimpose reboot into the games and its frankly obnoxious
Bro what? Where'd you get that assumption?
>Literally no u
Try again.
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>>572160318
His three best friends being an 8 year old boy, a girl romantically obsessed with him, and an isolated retard, really speaks on Sonic's social abilities
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>>572159684
I suspect it's actually "mandates" not letting them show that.
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>>572159647
Hello? (hello!)
Hello Genesis
(Yes!)
Can you hear me?
(Yes!)

(Where am I?)

Hello Genesis
(Yes!)
Can you hear me?
(Yes!)
(Where am I? Hello?)
Hello?
Hello you just get into...
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>>572160204
>Shade and the Nocturnus were also murdered by Eggman during the war.
If you headcanon Forces as Chronicles 2, then sure.
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>>572141310
You know this list is made up when pic related is top 1
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>>572155919
>Sally (in SatAM) was an ice queen. A contrast to Mohawknik being a Hothead.
What? Sally was hugging and kissing everyone and encouraging them the whole show. She isn't an ice queen she's just serious.
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>>572159702
Im not a a Tailsfag, schizo. And I'm not being rigid just because I care more about the integrity of the games world than you do.
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>>572158373
Well when you put it that way… yeah he is flash is just the barry and wally show to be honest, and jay is the grandpa that does cool shit sometimes
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>>572160638
>I'm not being rigid just because I care more about the integrity of the games world than you do.
lol bro, not even Sonic Team gives a fuck like you do. What are you doing?
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>>572160382
Yeah we know, the lucky bitch.
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>>572160638
>I care more about the integrity of the games world than you do.
More than Sonic Team apparently because most of them are shit to play.
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>>572160462
>His three best friends being an 8 year old boy, a girl romantically obsessed with him, and an isolated retard, really speaks on Sonic's social abilities
Because your loser ass wants it to. Guy's plenty social with others but those are the guys he cares about the most.
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>>572160297
Yeah and what happened was Tails jist coming off like a tool for no reason to try and force the conflict.

>>572160092
>said yourself he isn't deep
Im saying the opposite. I'm saying he is simple but deep. He is nuanced rather than complex.
>>572160092
>Everyone else is just more so because they're just props who exist to glaze Sonic.
This is a complete misread. Its not about proping up Sonic so mich as proving up thr virtues and values of the series. Sonic is just avatar for pushing those things.
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Frontiers might be the only game in which the keyboard os the better way to play the game
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>>572160192
>Sonic the self insert hog
He's a power fantasy, not a self insert.
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>>572160938
>but those are the guys he cares about the most.
Yeah it's not like because the kid and the girl almost religiously kiss his ass or anything.
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What happened to Fiona and Fiona?
Not that I care...
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>>572160039
That's an issue with the writer, not the dynamic. Nailing this shit down to Sonic specifically, almost all interactions would take place before or at the beginning of the level. Most of which go like this:

>Sally: Your next mission is dangerous.
>Sonic: Chill NPC, this will be easy.
>Sally: Seriously, your next mission is really dangerous.
>Sonic: Watch me run circles around this shit.
>Sally: Sigh...

A simplification of things but yeah, that'd be game Sally. Likewise, the "Sally being correct" in game terms is the player's fault. You fail the mission, Sally is proven right. You succeed, Sonic is proven right. Cause this is a game and Sonic is the player surrogate.
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>>572160260
Reverse Flash is often either equal to or surpasses him in ability though.

>>572160318
Sonic is more a teen amongst stuffy adults, sad children and teens and kids who THINK they are adults, and Sonic helps them loosen up.
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I don't know. I think the comics damaged any good will people have for characters who test Sonic. People will immediately read it in bad faith at this point
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>>572160742
Clearly they care or they wouldn't have forced Ian and IDW to make the restoration a volunteer effort instead of some millitia against Eggman like they intended.
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>>572161413
ah... antoine sexo...
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>>572160629
I get that you are a zoomer so you don't understand the difference between an ice queen and those awful girlbosses but understand this: Ice Queens aren't manhating dykes.
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>>572160980
Anon Sonic is literally the ultimate lifeform, the fastest thing alive, the strongest, easily defeats literal gods, and cannot be stopped. He is described as a force of nature (the wind), the greatest hero, and never wrong. Sonic is basically Superman only instead of Superman becoming dumb when Batman walks in, Sonic gets the aura too. He's basically Superman and Batman put together.
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>>572161374
IDW issue 50 should have never been made. It broke the entire fandom into never ending wind discourse
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>>572161374
We should thank the comics for showing that most of these characters are just Sonic's ass kissers and sparing partners
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>>572161220
But then Sally is never really right though. Her being right is a what-if alt scenario where thr player (not Sonic) fails.
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Sonic stories are predictable when written correctly.
Only major autists find this alluring and soothing.
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>>572161220
So Sally is just Jonah from the spider man games then
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>>572161204
My guess is they decided to drop everything and have reality-warping lesbo-sex in some pocket space.
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Sonic chose Elise in my first 06 playthrough
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Why are Sonic's mothers always hot?
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>>572161801
How to tell a Sonic story for idiots
>Sonic is right. Everyone should talk about how great he is
>Eggman causes the problem somehow. Maybe he tries to control an ancient god from an extinct civilization
>Rip off an anime. It can be any anime. Make it obvious .
>Long time no see
>All of the important characters are in this new location at the same time just because
>The moral of the story should be that Sonic is a cool amazing guy
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>>572161740
Exactly. This is a video game, not a shitty movie telling you to "be better men". Canonically, Sonic ALWAYS win.
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>>572161570
>Sonic is literally the ultimate lifeform
Not literally. Metaphorically. Shadow is the literal ULF. In universe Sonic is just a guy with the right heart.
>the fastest thing alive,
Shadow exists but whatever.
>the strongest,
Knuckles
>the greatest hero
I mean he is famous sure and is world remouned, but its not like he is a public figure doing press tours. He is more like Goji.
>He's basically Superman and Batman put together.
Nah I think the Godzilla comparison is far more accurate.
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>>572161930
Always?
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you sound like you need a hair cut
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>>572162242
Forgive me to asking, but who's that bitch?
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This general would be in a healthier mental position if they used the Greek term for hero instead of the USA term for hero
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You sure you want adventure remakes?
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>>572162185
Anon Shadow is just a shitty clone of Sonic with some black arms bullshit. He's not the ultimate lifeform. He even says that Sonic is the ultimate lifeform.
Shadow is not on Sonic's level, and neither is Knuckles. I can say fuck all about godzilla's dumbass character so maybe you're right. I have no idea and I don't care to know about some dumb fuck lizard lol.
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>>572162129
Way to miss any of the actual substance or point.
People like you are how we have people insisting Sonic's story was the least important in 06.
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>>572162383
He didn't miss the substance. There just wasn't any.
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>>572162354
know your place, fart boy
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>>572162178
Shadow05
Amy and Metal Sonic's anniversary comic.
Tails' anniversary comic
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>>572161413
Bunnie and Antoine owe me a threesome.
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>>572151640
Watching Sonic Underground for character study is insane. I'm impressed but this is something an insane person does.
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>>572162552
So Sonic is getting beaten up by his own clone. That's just more glazing. The only one who can beat Sonic is himself!
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>>572162307
The mother of Sonic.
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>>572162309
Which is?
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>>572162587
>Shadow05
Did Shadow actually win any fights with Sonic? That branching path shit makes a lotta of what happens up to interpretation.
>Amy and Metal Sonic's anniversary comic.
>Tails' anniversary comic
Not canon.
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>>572162383
There is nothing of substance for this Burger King ass franchise.
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>>572162663
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Goku never just "coincidentally" runs into old friends. The story actually uses the fact that they can go anywhere to explain why they're usually in the same area. Sonic stories don't care about basic set up.
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>>572162307
Someone who hates the series but wants to take credit for it because it's popular and she wants attention
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>>572162348
I don't care ether way
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>>572162727
Silver beat sonic in 06 and had shadow save him
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come to think of it, do you think the sonic movies are ever gonna address whatever the fuck was going on in the first one? There was shit going on in mobius, that’s why sonic had to leave and let his owl mom die, but he just stayed on earth for 3 movies
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>>572162898
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>>572162764
Asshole that robs and rapes and indiscriminately kills every once in a while in the mist of their good deeds.
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>>572163037
Movienic forgot he was an alien already
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>>572162976
Ian looks like that?
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>>572162931
>Goku
Who cares

>>572163037
>come to think of it, do you think the sonic movies are ever gonna address whatever the fuck was going on in the first one?
LOL no. Paramount doesn't care about "lore" (be it their own or the games), it's all just a set up for action scenes, fart jokes, and references
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>>572162354
>shitty clone of Sonic
He isn't though.
He has his own origin and his own back story and just so happens to have the same powers as Sonic. He is like MetaKnight kinda.
>He even says that Sonic is the ultimate lifeform.
Sure as Super Sonic. But the series kinda treats SuperSonic as almost a different character kinda.
>Shadow is not on Sonic's level
But he is. Debatably stronger. Sonic just manages to come out on top sometimes but its never decisive.
>and neither is Knuckles
Im comfortable saying Sonic decisively stands ahead of Knuckles but even then its not like he cuebstomps. SA1 has them bash heads in a way that paints them as rather well matched.
> I can say fuck all about godzilla's dumbass character so maybe you're right.
Considering Godzilla was a symbol fot environmentalism and anti-weapons if war, and those things were central to the conception of the series, I dont think its a coincidence. Especially since Mecha Sonic is a Mechagodzilla reference.

https://youtu.be/zbwagsE5iSE
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>>572163037
They already did. There was a war between the owls and Echidnas. Longclaw killed all the remaining Echidnas except knuckles
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>>572138590
Will i ever get to impregnate blaze the cat?
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>>572163443
She has a dick...You know this already, Silver.
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>>572163613
h-hot…
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>>572162543
Nah, it exists.
You just skipped all the cutscenes.
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>>572163719
And will you point to the cutscenes because I wanna see you prove your point against him
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Thank god sonic prime was shit, that prism would have been the perfect excuse for sonic to fall into the spider-verse trap and we would have tons of one off multiverse versions of sonic getting spin off and teaming up with prime sonic every 5 minutes
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>>572163613
biting off blazes barbed-cat-dick and forcably transing her with painful injections and dilators...


hnng
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>>572162793
>Did Shadow actually win any fights with Sonic?
All of it is treated as plausible and within canon regardless though.
It really confuses me that people dont get this.
>Not canon.
Anon...
>>572162819
>"there is no substance in Sa Nic Se"
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>>572138590
Can I escape this void of a franchise?
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Play with me
Rock paper scissors
0-3 rock
4-6 paper
7-9 scissors
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[Scene starts, stands in a city in front of a sign that reads "STUDIOPOLIS ZONE"]
Dude, are you like the X-Men or what? *farts* This is why I always shop at Best Buyâ„¢ *runs back and forth, then dances* Silvester Stallone!
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>>572162931
>Goku never just "coincidentally" runs into old friends.
He does in the filler
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Archie fans trying to fit Sally in the canon: Do what if we make Sonic stupid like in Lost World
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>>572164026
>"there is no substance in Sa Nic Se"
this but unironically
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>>572160713
Was the new Sonic Shorts any good?
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>>572138590
Will I get a gf who'll let me plow her in her Rouge cosplay?
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They're showing Sonic Prime on Nickelodeon and treating it like a new show.
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>>572164094
Ok
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>>572164332
it was meh. will wait for volume 11
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>>572164094
Okay
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>>572164226
>Archie fans trying to fit Sally in the canon: Do what if we make Sonic stupid like in Lost World
Who said that?
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>>572163810
You want me to go play by play over every cutscene?
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>>572164531 (Me)
or i dunno man. 3D just doesn't do it for me
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I can really tell it's just 3 people babbling to themselves and each other.
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>>572164643
Do what you wish
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>>572164480
Makes sense. Being on streaming is like being on youtube: 99% of the world doesn't know you exist.
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>>572164247
This but ironically
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The idea of a windfag studying the American canon and not wanting to claw his own eyes out
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Sonic never had substance
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>>572164557
Congratulations! :)

>>572164797
I think most people watch stuff online nowadays
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>>572164779
You wanna get on Vchat or something?
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>>572164759
All me btw
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>>572164878
American Sonic doesn't make me wanna claw my eyes out.
People claiming its better and deeper does.
Burgernic more just puts me to sleep. Its like watching Ben 10.
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>>572164935
But due to the large amount of "content" most everything gets ignored. Just look at any of the famous ecelebs. Nobody on the street knows these people despite the millions of views.
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>>572165095
Late Alien Force Ben 10 where he's horny and stupid
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NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>572164994
Fuck off to /co/
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>>572164957
No, I'm fine with text.
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>>572165172
Ben was a retard for sticking with a human ironing board when there were several alien hotties vying for his affection.
Much like Comic Sonic
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>Received transmission
>Transmission playback commencing
>"NI
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>>572165348
/co/ is also all me
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>>572057573
Why is Blaze giving Amy throat cancer?
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I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE
GIVE ME SHOTA FOX KNOT NOW
I WANT TO FUCK AND CUDDLE TAILS SO BAD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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FUCKING KIIIKES. MAKE BABYLON GREAT AGAIN.
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>>572165348
The fiona spammer is the most tolerable /co/tard here though
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>>572165497
>black model swatbot
>"NEGRO DETECTED"
>"NEGRO DETECTED"
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>>572165450
Cowards. Fucking cowards.
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>>572165630
Here's the kemoshota you ordered, please make sure you treat him well! =)
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>>572165450
Archie Sonic is the same character as Ben Tennyson at his fucking worst. The only people who like this are self inserters.
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>>572163848
That's the one thing i really hated about Prime, i straight hope we were getting something like Ben 10 x Spiderverse but it's all Sonic.
No, we got a lame my kid show. They just did Boom again but don't got the sitcom cope to keep any dedicated watchers, they had the new Netflix show cope instead.
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>>572165842
>Imagine being a Crackabot
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>>572164759
Nobody is going to /fast/ fuck off
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>>572165731
But anon
The Babylon's are the real jews
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>>572166103
>still crying over his ban
kek
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>>572163613
will he get impregnated then?
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>>572165893
IM GOING TO RAPE HIS MOUTH WITH MY TONGUE
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>Oh and janny-Ca. clean that futa porn. they are not ad friendly
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>>572165732
I DON'T WANT COMIC SPAMMERS
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>>572166095
>"we wuz kangz mane!"
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>>572163370
>But the series kinda treats SuperSonic as almost a different character kinda.

nta but elaborate?
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>>572166405
Please be careful, foxboys are notoriously delicate
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Sonic should be voiced by youtubers
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>>572166039
>The only people who like this are self inserters.
We get it, you're a lame ass nerd.
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>>572166063
What Prime did was better. If we ever got an intercontinuity crossover ST would just shit on everything for being off brand just like Turtles forever did
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>>572166752
I don't need to live vicariously through a misrepresented character to imagine getting laid. I can just get laid. There is no way you're trying to make self inserting sound cool.
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>>572166925
Who said anything about self inserting?
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>>572166752
Archiefags when you say Sonic doesn't act like that: You're a nerd for not selfinserting
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>>572166702
You joke, but that sounds like something Sega would do if they become cheap enough.
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>>572167126
>>572167107
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Spaz managed to mimix Uekawa's artstyle. imagine Archie with Uekawa-like panel art
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>>572167107
Every reply in the chain?
>>572166925
There's your confirmation, Archie Fags are there to self insert. It's a wish fulfillment fantasy for them. They don't care about Sonic.
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>>572166039
>The only people who like this are self inserters.
You forget me, the guy who wants to anally rape him, nothing consentual though
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Is it really that hard to just make sure you're correct before you try arguing something? Sonic isn't rocket science, it's a cartoon hedgehog.
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>>572165172
No even Ben 10 Classic. I tried rewatching it and it was boring and I dropped it.
It only really caught on because back then B or C tier shows were more viable because of timeslots.
My love for Ben 10 is almost completely just nostalgia and liking the Omnitrix.
But I do think the characters were more entertaining in OG Ben 10.

AF does that thing where they equate characters maturing meaning they become more boring and level headed.
Ben10AF Gwen is a mutilation of her original character.
Horny Douche Ben is basically like AchieSonic.
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The ultimate proof that you love a character
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>>572167653
It was made for weekly out of order broadcasts but has continuity. It's a bad combination. Good thing Sonic continuity and writing is always good and smart.
>>
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>>572167774
He tanked that
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>>572167774
This is just how he gets off.
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>>572165410
I literally do not have time or space to do all that on 4chan.
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>>572167906
Why is Shadow grouped with the shitty Sonic X OCs
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>>572167906
The Freedom Fighters aren't canon
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>>572167328
>Every reply in the chain?
Sonic's a power fantasy. Not a self insert. Ben's a power fanasy too.
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I like the comic OCs like the freedom fighters and the diamond cutters except Whisper. I hate the comic versions of the Sega characters. They're all shit and Sonic is always the worst. Change my mind.
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Sally is cute! CUTE!
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>>572168297
Western Amy is worse. Western Sonic is just a generic cocky teen hero, an honest mistake. Western Amy is actively trying to "fix" Amy.
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>>572168297
You are based. I fucking hate Whisper.
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>>572166634
>foxboy is being sexually aggressive
>"noooo we're delicate I swear ;_;"
Uuh-huh.
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>>572168362
CUTE
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If Sonic Movie 4 is a success but doesn't have Sonamy, then it's going to be an apocalyptic end for Sonamy for both the JP side and ENG side
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>>572168639
I keep saying Amyfags are just Mistyfags
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>>572168716
>b. but they are le misunderstood holocaust victims :( *bullies everyone else*
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There is a moment in Sonic X episode 69 where Tails deliberately taunts Cosmo to fluster her and is all confident about it. Is this OoC?
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>>572168716
>insane shippers are insane shippers
Well yeah...
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Tails' knot belongs firmly planted inside Rouge's pussy.
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>>572166632
In all the spinoffs Super Sonic is a seperate character from Sonic if playable.
Super Sonic even in Sonic 2 is treated like a seperate state rather than just Sonic charged by emeralds.
This is itself a reference to how SuperSaiyan was originally treated in DB when Goku goes Supersaiyan for the first time.
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Movie Sonic will literally acknowledge the concept of shipping on screen as a meta joke and then stick his tongue out and say "blegh" before going "That's definitely against my official character Bio" and then Fowler will be fine because unlike Ian he doesn't interact with Sonic autists.
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>>572167840
This isn't really an excuse. Danny Phantom also did the same thing but it was way more watchable.
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>>572168474
Tbh yeah...
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>>572168474
This changed my mind. At least western Sonic has the excuse that the writer is just copying Satam. Western Amy exists on purpose.
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>>572168474
Millennials don't fix anything. They just ruin things.
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>>572169756
Does anyone actually like Nu Amy? Men hate her. Women hate her too. I have never seen anyone like it except shippers who wanted Amy away from Sonic.
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>>572168474
Western Amy is as dull as cardboard.
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>>572167653
>Ben needs a new girlfriend
>Let's bring back Kai and give her the same dynamic Ben had with Gwen
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>>572170256
No one likes her because there is nothing to like. She's Amy zapped of all characteristics.
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When you really think about it, Tangle is just a windfag
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>>572170890
Yes.
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>>572138590
An I late?
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Sonic should have been a JP only franchise and debuted in the west with Sonic Adventure.
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This or...?
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>>572170890
Only before Whisper shows up to ruin her character.
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>>572171685
...this?
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>>572171685
How about you stop posting that fucking OC and go to >>>/co/
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Tangle if you leave Whisper then finally we can be together
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>>572171685
>>572171891
Neither.
But I like the black box, you can keep that one.
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Sally really puts the OC in OOC
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>>572171891
>>572171685
P3's text box would probably fit better
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>>572171902
NTA, but when will you realize that making posts like this only makes people like me want to post her more?
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>>572172290
Telling people what to do on 4chan literally never works and is a sign of low iq
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>>572172290
I guess that's his point, reverse baiting.
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Anon don't suck my fat cock and don't kiss me after I cum.
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I hope nobody posts fluffy tailed animals being cute I can't stand them and they have nothing to with sonic
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My penis sings for thee Whisper, if you ditch the lemurbitch then I'll show you my "variable wispon" beybeh
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>>572172290
>only makes people
You're fucking samefagging, dude. There isn't much people in here.
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>>572172606
*winks at you*
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>>572170512
LOL

>>572170256
Im convinced no one actually likes Nu Amy. People just are invested in the idea that it is progress for her or something.
All the fan art and fan comics and videos and fanfics just have her with her 2000s personality.
Hell even a lot of Boom Amy fan art just made her have her 2000s game personality.
Talking about Amy's character is like talking about 06. You're just supposed to toe the line and ignore reality.
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all those people are you
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>>572172606
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>>572172723
oh no my pet peeves why did this have to happen thank god there's only one of them that matches the description
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whos to do blame for new am y
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>>572166095
i want to marry one of those
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>>572173000
Nice trips. I'll say Hollywood.
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>>572172343
True, could also be a sign of being underageb&.

>>572172405
Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. Some people genuinely let her live rent free in their heads and I've been lurking here long enough to know this.

>>572172660
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Would've been nice if the braindead fucking jannies didn't get rid of the IP counter.
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>>572173000
SoA and "fans" apparently.
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Sally?
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Americans deadass replaced christianity and the cold war and the war on terror with Woke vs Chud.
Clown world ass country.
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>>572173457
Yes
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>>572173182
I hope they brought IP counter back. Hell, this place acts like /pol/ at times so they might as well add number ID badge thing on posts as well.
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They need to bring back Tekno.
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>>572173614
they need to add the poster ids on every board along with flag
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>>572173457
>>572173562
Sonic's wife.
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Just be glad Sally is vaulted. It means SoA/Flynn/Whoever is responsible for Amy being turned into a worthless loveless plank can't ruin her.
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>>572173768
damn that would certainly make this general interesting and possibly explain some of the behaviors displayed here
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>>572173768
>Flag
Every thread becomes a country war
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>>572173858
>amyfag supports her ship rival in a sesbian relationship
>ff 9 years later. sonic is the wind and amy kinda gave up
giga kek
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>>572173858
Archie fans involved in the franchise and on here pretty much prove they'd kill off Amy if they were allowed to. They really despise Amy when Sally doesn't exist to "put her in her place".
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that guy told sonic he's an unc like them on the charity stream
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>>572173858
why is he so obsessed with lesbians
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>>572174036
Sally known to have her GPS as her girlfriend to most of the fandom now.
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>>572173951
I want to psychoanalyze what European country Fionafag comes from.
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>>572174360
most of the fandom are pro lgtv and most of sally's fandom has retired so there's some truth to that
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>>572174325
He's a married man with no kids. In otherwords, he's a perv.
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>>572174360
naaah. it's half and half at best. the sally places i frequent still got a plenty of sonally. also sallicole never manifested in the comics
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Rouge says echidnas stink
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>>572174325
Fetish
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>>572174560
>lgtv
kek
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>>572173768
And unlike /pol/ you can't change the badge
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>>572174894
this reminds me of the guy who would seethe about tails and would draw porn of tails getting cucked
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>>572175019
SuperbunnyGT? (Unless he changed his name again)
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>>572173562
>>572173821
I'm glad that we all love Sally here, it's nice.
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>>572174793
Guess we know what she is into
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>>572174793
>Rouge says echidnas stink
Racist ass hoe
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>>572175113
She's neat
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>>572173821
Is Sonia.
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>>572175089
yes him!
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>>572175113
Oh no, I don't care who Sonic marries as long as it's not Amy. But Sally scoring Sonic bowl brings in extra salt which is a huge bonus.
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>>572174793
unironically Shade probably does considering she wears a skintight latex battle suit all the time
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>>572174325
white liberal men love lesbians to an obsessive degree
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>>572175097
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>>572175113
what if that leak by that guy from before had a bit of truth to it?
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Would Sonic fuck his sister?
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Can you please stop samefagging?
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>>572176821
We all would.
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>>572176821
date your waifu yourself. sickfuck
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Would Sonamyshitters be a thing if Naka still had control
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>>572175146
Hedgehogs?
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>>572177336
Yes, sonamyfag are so fucking annoying they would permeate multiple dimensions just to shit up a thread.
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How much of a sthg time skip did I fucking miss? When did Scribbles turn into a 3D guy
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How do we kill sonamybesties once for all?
>>
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>>572177940
This is awful, boring, discord inside joke and has nothing to do with Sonic.
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>>572177940
Boooring
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>>572176014
As a white conservative man, I enjoy lesbians slamming clams, but that may be different than what you're talking about.
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damn that really set him off
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>>572175113
35% of her appeal is Kath Soucie’s performance. (It makes complete sense she’s one of those VAs who has no internet presence.)
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>>572178313
doyouhavetheslightestideahowlittlethatnarrowsitdown
>>
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>>572177797
Next Surge interaction will cause a riot. I've seen it. IDW is aware that people like the pairing and they're going to lean into it from now on. It's cute and just a little horny.
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>>572178313
marine if fish
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Fiona's favorite beverage
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>>572178301
Lesbians gotta be the fakest gay sexuality out of all the fake and gay sexualities man..
Just a bunch of salty mid an foid who couldn't fuck a Chad
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>>572178738
I hope so, Sonurge is goat.
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He changed tactics with different coat of paint
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>>572178827
Lesbians are natural and not a sin.
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>>572177767
Isn't it normal for drawfags to change over time
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>>572178881
>Gets exactly what he asks
>Complains
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>>572179101
He knew what he was doing when he asked for it, he just want an excuse to have another meltdown. Must be exhausting being so angry and envious all the time
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>>572178967
No, they draw same shit every single week and never improve.
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Why do you keep coming here if sthg makes you mad
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Evens Argentina loses today
Dubs Argentina wins today
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/noz7wQndoFo
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>>572179451
>Zerotwan
kino
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No really why are you here if being here makes you angry
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>>572138242
>JJ Sonic Pinball
>It's based on Generations
I mean it could be worse (could be based on the movie) but FUCK I wish we got a polished up version of the Sonic Mania/16bit Homebrew instead.
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>>572179281
>>572179737
If you have to ask then clearly you haven't been here long enough. get out while you still can.
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>>572179737
Shut up faggot
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He fucked her so hard she's now in a wheelchair
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>>572179965
Hurray! =D
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>>572179965
I feel so spergy for knowing how much damage this image did to the general. People have made enemies over it.
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>>572179737
I have to defeat all the drawfags.
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>>572179965
I can't even tell if the guy at the time was genuinely wanting to be part of the group but that certainly started the neverending seething that has lasted like four years and counting.
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I dont read, Swatbot! Quick rundown pls
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Why there's a single porn pic still up?
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>>572180339
There's no way it happened four years ago. I left /sthg/ for a time when the AI junk was getting fucking ridiculous at least two years ago.
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>>572180467
You-know-who fap to it.
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>>572180403
Swatbot is unavailable. Everyone is a samefagging schizo faggot, especially shippers.
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>>572180309
post the goods
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>>572180556
I have no clue who are you talking about.
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Swatvot is too busy rigging the match for Argentina
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>>572180660
The ones who're supposed to keep this place clean
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I have posted it
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>>572180339
Duofag was trying to be nice. He made that for Scribbles because he liked the comic, then the Booru admins made a rule that there can be no AI on the booru
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>>572180641
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*hides post*

Thread ruined, everyone can go home.
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>>572180806
It's been four fucking years why is he still mad
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>>572180806
And that's drawfags' fault?
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>>572180625
There's at least 2, maybe 3 fi-fags
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>>572168639
Sega is going to be torn a new one if that happens and I hope they do get a new one torn into them

>>572169324
The movie aren't Sonic Boom
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>>572180743
Oh. I see.
Damn.
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blah blah blah nega blah blah mountain blah blah sun blah blah moon blah blah anti blah blah heart blah blah blah wind blah
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>>572180950
Yes. Drawfags decided the booru is for whiteboards instead of sthg culture
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>>572180806
>Duofag was trying to be nice
lmao sure that's why he blames every drawfag for one anon telling him to pick up a pencil.
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>>572181101
This.
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>>572180814
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duofag, stop samefagging your posts, no one is fooled.
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the left still has no answer for this
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>YOU'RE DUOFAG
>NO YOU'RE DUOFAG
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>>572181423
Duofag Derangement Syndrome (DDS)
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Are we Fiona and Kit posting?
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>>572180954
I am Fi' and I've seen others claim to be me in the last few months, plus 'Iona. So yeah it's at least 3.
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>>572180814
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so anymore reheated booru drama you guys want to talk about for the 100th time?
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>>572181101
>Drawfags decided
Isn't that up for the booruadmins?
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>>572181101
do something about it :)
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>>572181650
This place was always bad but it's gotten worse within the last two years. It's gotten to the point where it's the same exact topics nearly every other day. In a few hours there will be another slap fight over who to ship shadow with.
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>>572180954
I remember one fionfag months ago that avatarfagged a lot and tried leaving this place because of how nasty it has gotten only to come back shortly afterwards...and then he left for real. I wonder whatever happened to him
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Do not sex rabbits
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>>572181746
Drawfags manage the booru.
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>>572182126
was this any good, I only see fat fox memes get posted
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There's so little people left that half the drama is literally made by one guy and that's rounded downwards.
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>>572182027
I agree, it's mostly the same 5-7 anons ranting about the same shit over and over again. I get that there is no real news for upcoming mainline games but man it has to get old getting angry about the same things everyday.
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Maybe we should get an actually good sonic game to revive the fandom, but all we will get is Fortnite on wheels
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>>572182273
Movie 4, trust the plan
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>>572182273
Three years ago I came here like every day. Nowadays I won't check in for a couple weeks at a time and it's literally the same conversations.
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>>572182393
if metal transforms into neo metal than it'll be pretty kino
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>>572182032
Was he the guy who started every thread with The Slap?
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>>572182489
I'm expecting him to rebel and go metal overlord for the final fight.
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TANA-
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>>572182783
KA
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>>572181101
some random guy ai gens is sthg culture?
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I'll be honest that the Sonic as somebody that takes no orders, seems to be growing on me. If that could be combined with lore and a gritty tone I'd love it. I used to be a pure Archie guy.
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Thoughts?
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>>572182628
maybe? I just remember he avatarfagged with fiona pics with transparent backgrounds and rp'ed with one of the amyfags a lot. I know this still happens but I don't know if it's the same fionafag or not because he was insistent on leaving.
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*hides your post*
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>>572182973
wow they're so like uh fucking in a sink or something
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>>572182930
Not him but someone deleted tons of artwork from booru from decade or so ago.
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>>572183082
Knock that off!
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>>572182126
Bunnie demands it.
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>>572182628
I wish she kept that haircut, it was more erotic
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WATER KIRBY ATTACKS /STHG/!
Which Sonic character will save us?
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Make the next thread. I have something that will make you shit it up.
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>>572183793
Big the Cat
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Hot take: Game Sonic is a bitch. He isn't windy enough and he needs to be the kind of guy who is only on the good guys side because it's fun. He would buttrape all the women if he didn't know it would cause trouble. He should be a danger to everyone.
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>>572183105
they're so tanaba-
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>>572183793
Nobody...Cause Kirby isn't evil. He's just being playful also its just water. Bubsy is the guy who dissolves when water hits him.
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>>572183943
>He would buttrape all the women if he didn't know it would cause trouble. He should be a danger to everyone.
That's Scourge.
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>>572183876
We're not even at the bump limit. And whatever you're about to post, you made it up.
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>>572183876
>promoting early bake
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>>572183943
You're asking for a windy version of Scourge.
Why has no one done this
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>>572183876
Unless you're the guy who said you had proof that the IDW people and lore team were intentionally shitting up the new profiles and you're going to actually deliver, I don't think anyone cares.
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Rape?
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>>572184163
>A Sonic that murders and rapes just because
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>>572183793
Unironically Surge might be the only one who stands a chance...
That, or befriend him. Not hard to do, just don't be a dick and don't overeat.
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>>572183793
No one. There's no canon aquatic animals in this shit franchise.
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>>572148789
Most JP Sonic foils are shit at actually countering Sonic because the difference between them and Sonic is always a bad thing
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"Sonic takes no orders. He's just his own guy who plays by his own rules. He'd gladly break the law and cause problems as long as it aligns with his moral feeling inside."

True or false?
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Which characters wouldn't run from an automatic weapon?
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>>572182950
>alt background
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>>572184347
>surge being able to take on Kirby
anon, come on now
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>>572184605
This was true in the 2000s. The first half of Sonic frontiers is just Sonic following orders
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>>572184449
Pardon?!
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>>572184283
isn't it implied that she's the rapist all along
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>>572184605
truth nuke
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>>572184605
True. Sonic isn't a hero.
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>>572184771
>>572184771
>>572184771
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>>572184640
This reminded me that Satam Sally was perfectly comfortable hitting Nicole like a broken Gameboy even though she's supposed to be alive
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>>572184694
i never knew this fucker was a squid
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>>572184605
Depends on the laws. If the laws are unjust, sure, as a matter of principle. But otherwise I don't think so.
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>>572184998
*octopus
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>>572183943
>He isn't windy enough and he needs to be the kind of guy who is only on the good guys side because it's fun.
He kinda does. But also just has a good heart
>He should be a danger to everyone.
Ignoring all the property damage he causes now?



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