>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Vengeful Spirit of Windcry Peak, Kagero - Until 7/8Fangs of the Clear Mirror, Shiou - Until 7/1Keeper of the Mirror-Mere, Livana - Until 7/22>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:>Battlefront of HeroesSeason 2 never ever>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:Healer class and Fairie race - https://rentry.org/hz88qmqs[Great Value] New passports available - 2000 org for $5, 3000 org for $15[Controversial] Tapjoy Offerwall - offers frozen for burgersForgotten Craft of the Medicinal Arts - earn a free Camille (bricked with bad growths)[Farming] Sand Shadow Cave - new quest to unlock silver eastern junk[Weapon Update] New ninjato passive[The Dark Souls of Minigames] Fishermen of Rockhome - fishing quest[Quests] Rockhome Development and Arena Tourney! Chase Back-to-Back Wins!Relic-Buff - Until 7/1[Global Campaign] Guarda Assault Support - https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2067955613607571508[June Roadmap] https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2061372533119864890>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN) [Recommended]https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>571339868
benis
We need an adventurer named Regina to make benis and bagina jokes.
>>572145703we already have VaJean
>>572145831what about Yuzunyowmeowki or Yuzu meowing at a later date?
Get suuuuuuper strong!
>>572154102
>>572145196Muscle girl is actually the strongest character isn't she? Even better than yuzu considering how easy she is to level.
>>572160808no
liv will never be good compared to benis. Unless she gets a "cast skill at beginning of battle for 0 cost" and then she attacks once instead of benis attacking possibly every time someone takes a turn. I wish I gave flutter and Obv to gillion just to see him die from all the extra attacks.
I remember when Benis alt came out anons were actually trying to say she was bad.
If alt Liv is any good, it definitely shows JD's favoritism for the ladies over the men.Gillian's splash attack>close range only>barely stronger than heavy attack>splash effect is 30% of main target's damage>costs 25% of his HPLivana>I don't know either damage number >can be used at mid range>does not cost HP>column splash more desirable than row splash
>>572164438Bad for my dick's ability to not be rubbed raw, yes.
>>572164438>Move you can't turn offIt will always be bad until it's fixed.
>>572164438Easily the strongest inherit introduced on an alt but that isn't a high bar (the only competition is alt Berk). It also means you don't need 2 copies of her.
>>572164582Gillionsodomites...
>Go back to whale cave>Die to roar>Die to roar on the third roundWelp there's always a5?
>>572171332There's some poverty knight MAXXXX configs I've seen nips post about for that dragon.
You give Iris the berries from the guy, and then you head back to town to skip the wolf, right?
>>572178874breed benis
For non-legendaries alts, we've had>Christmas Elves: Flut and Milana>Humans: Nun Marianne, Red Spinner Asha>Beastfolk: Summer ChloeDwarf-gwos, it our turn! Speedo Ekhart is real!!
>>572180000At this point idk if I'd even roll summer alts unless they are broken.
>>572180127The non-legendary alts are mostly for collecting. If they aren't your waifu, it's kinda just a consolation prize for missing whatever legendary they run alongside.
>>572180000Do any of the general dwarves even have a slight popularity boost over the others? Like I feel human dudes at least have Daniel and Jarmil because "haha gay" and "haha pervy old man".
>>572181041Yeah this is why i'm logging in only once a week for supplies. Frankly it's a gacha game I want my pulls to make a difference. When everything feels the same what's the point? It wouldn't be so bad if this game wasn't a grindfest. It's such a pain in the ass to level any characters to max I just don't want to. They really fucked up that part of their game. Yuzu was a fucking nightmare to level every time. I don't want to level a fuckign samurai. Who is going to roll the wolf when they know they can't use him for 3 fucking weeks? There are no weeklies, no monthlies, no good source of XP or anything really. This shit needed sweeps from day 1. It's not a real single player game. The grind is bullshit. I have over 700 fucking hours and it's like time is standing still. I don't think I'll be back for A5 because I don't even want to struggle through the final stage of A4 and then do it again and then again for the true end and then 3 more times for the lamps and then I can spend a month leveling my MC samurai to 70 but guess what now the cap is 80 and you need 45 million experience FUCK the Japanese god dam jewniggers
>>572181826benis
Instead of spending my mistplay bucks on wizardry I spent 80$ on the mahjong gacha and got Akagi.
>>572181509I don't personally use him but Benjamin was fairly popular pre-A3magical beast slayer passive with earth type, if you had an earth wep at the time he would fuck a fishman upas far as upgrade potential goes, he has atk/def disc, idk the exact values but atk is decent for himfor CC he gets thief, naturally you would want to use the cc events and round trip him back to fighter, from thief he gets the passive SUR / aspd up, and dwarves really need aspdWotT is the real highlight, it increases surety dmgoverall he is probably one of the better generics but he is heavily overshadowed because a lot of other fighters are just cooler
>>572181826Totally opposite experience from me, I just use standard characters, did everything on A4 on launch, sitting on 200k gems, got some Yuzus because of FOMO during the long banner but don't actually use her, just use Guarda dispatch to level everything, don't farm loot because I'm waiting for A5. I might go for the new Detect bondmate soon when it doesn't interfere with my favorite pastime, farming bones to throw on my stack of 440+. I have no surety and probably do less than half the damage of people who farmed A4 and its caves, I don't have a Samurai or Healer built (although Camille is cooking), I can't farm cyclops for bounties so I macro scorpion instead, but it's fine.Looking forward to doing A5, not burnt out at all
>>572181826The original sin of this game is that the character kits just aren't diverse enough: It lacks both breadth and depth. Breadth as in most characters of the same class are 90% identical. Kinda a good thing from the player's perspective since there's less FOMO, but not great from a gacha perspective.Depth as in that there's not really a bunch of ways to build a specific character. You just sort of slap on your best gear onto whoever, and occasionally they'll scale off of evasion or accuracy or something so you need a seperate set of gear.Coupled with the slow rate of new characters and the relatively long ass time to get a new character leveled up, it's real hard to keep up the enthusiasm between caves.
>>572182613I meant more from a fan-art/meme perspective, not a meta one. Like even elves had that one picture of Elda getting his clothes melted by slime, but I don't think I've seen a singular non-gerulf piece of dwarf art. Maaaybe Bugens had something just because he is the only general samurai?
>>572183380While I like the junk system it's overall overwhelming and annoying to deal with the sheer amount of gear you get. There needs to be more than just alters and even getting the stones for that is pain.
>>572183807While the gear grind can be miserable, I think most things could be stomached if the character kits were just more exciting. I dunno, they had those elemental formation passives for certain general adventurers but they didn't really expand on that. Like instead of limiting it to giving certain alignments/elements a slight attack boost, why not release a character that gave all characters in the same row that have shields a guaranteed counter attack against physical attacks once per turn? Now getting shield and one handed weapons is more exciting. If you gave a different bonus depending on the class, then Knights and frontline Priests could be a consideration instead of triple Fighters.
>missed 2 bones from the last mausoleum
>>572191441As long as you got the Camille bone I think it's mostly fine. Wish there was a reoccuring source of bone tokens. Still so sad my one Speed Camille ended up being a fort dud.
Please don't die... I found this cool BTDE...
sex with long eared females
>94k gems>Still no cunny character to roll for since release
>>572206218Still surprised there's no playable rabbit beastfolk. They've been teasing them even since you reached the grasslands, and it's easy money.
Any particularly consistent snow rabbits spawn, I need to hunt them for bait because middle sized fatty tuna is evil fish that seemingly doesn't exist while middle size demon eels are plentiful
>>572206297Your fairy healer geo?
>>572207948The first monster outside of the harken has a high chance of snow rabbits spawning.
>>572210284Sucks since it seems that I'll have to progress then, didn't get that far yet but at least there is something and it's not completely fucked
>>572145196Is Wild Strike lvl 3 worth it? I have a bunch of Elise and Benjamins with it as an inherit.
>>572217156There’s basically zero good resources about how skills scale, so just b urself.
>>572217156>>572217156im using wild striek lv2 on my Kagero and is doing decent damage (2.7k - 3k), to whom you want to put it?
Are this the only normal adventurers worth leveling up?Asha MarianneCamilleClarissaChloeKirihaBenjamin
>>572221470Probably Abe or Berkanan. Abe mostly since she probably doesn't mind using lvl 3 on shorter farm fights like cyclops sentry. MC already has HA 7 and Lana FPS 3, and my Amelia has a fuckton of inherits, so I'm seeing if I can make Abe more unique by giving it to her. As long as it hits harder than ESS I'm happy.
>>572224364From a soulless metafag perspective only Camille and Elise (if you use her as a knight) are mandatory. Asha also fulfills a fire mage niche, and Clarissa is the best knight to go for overall. Everything else can be filled with your favorites, so while Kiriha is the best non-legend fighter, you'll be ok if you use Chloe or Amelia instead anyways.
>>572225307i would problably stick whit ESS if you are using for Farming, since it can stun the cyclops
https://youtube.com/shorts/XcH2W0c6_bM?is=8QaOjH_7k9qYY_M3
Any good advice to kill the villagers? They always run away even when I freeze them or buff my turn speed.
>>572229770Kiriha decided to just crit them all on the first turn for me, so I never got to really experience itSupposedly you used to be able to close the game when you received the message that they were fleeing and come back to get another chance, but idk if it still works or ever worked
>>572191441Hum-priest deserves an upgrade!
>>572229770Don't bother with buffing/debuffing, your goal is to get rid of the adds ASAP. Ninjas are quite good at it and aoe helps a lot
>>572229770Only one worth freezing or CCing is the mayor fight, the rest can be nuked with mages and Yuzu.
>login gaming'd so hard I maxed out samurai from lvl 60whew
6 BP Kagero put all points in Str, Spd or 50/50 spilt?
>>572240792its not going to be too much difference either waywith air/beastfolk/ninja his spd (aspd) is already going to be fairly high so I would lean towards the 6atk from 6 str he would get
Knight's Trials done.I can finally make Lana a fighter.
The Master Knight ring is useless, isn't it?
>>572244038Naturally.
>>572241519i would go speed anyway, since Ninjato damage is increased by Evasion and Speed gives it
>STR: Fighter>IQ: Mage>PIE: Priest>VIT: Knight (lol)>DEX: Ranger>Speed: NinjaWe need a Luck scaling class to complete the set.>But you can't get Luck from gear substatsExactly, your growth will be purely based on... Luck.
>>572244038My Galbados likes it.
>>572174173yea after you give her the berries you can wheel past the wolf
GWO your bounty medals....
shit i still havent done my bountiesnyo....
get to it pwo (purring warped one)
Is this witch cave shit annoying?
Apart from the new Alt-Livana ability, how many columns skills we have? I can't think any other ability.
>>572266683ranger's have penetrating shot
>>572249667No he doesn't. He would be much better off with a +0 Knight's Cloak.
>>572273629That doesn't boost Guardian Blow.
>when you get resurrected by an Evil Masketta ghoul
>>572276230Neither does the Knight ring. Guardian Blow hardcaps at a very low combined Defense and Magic Defense value, and you can easily bump against that value with a full silver heavy armor set, no terrible ring necessary.Also, even if that weren't the case, getting a small amount of extra damage on a horrible skill you should almost never be clicking is not worth sacrificing a 1 in 3 chance to cut incoming damage in half. This is especially true for the character who starts every battle by automatically attracting enemy attacks to himself.
nyontents?
A nyagger.looking for "nyontents"
Kill Lanavaille
The water den is the one that drops Silver ore, right?
ye
Why did they nerf her gwos…https://x.com/Nighcisa/status/2071282891288666262
>You leveled up...?
>>572287642The lips are exactly the same. Left's mouth is very slightly open and right's is closed.
>>572287642>What no meat does to a woman of justice
Good women.Good beastfolk.Good faeries.
>>572273629What cloak? Where is it from/what does it do?Kagero havers, is his skill worth giving to someone else or leveling up? The sp cost jumps up at higher levels.
im enjoying the game a lot so far. i dont normally play mobile games but so far this is like a whole ass wizardry game. its awesome i like my party a lot i wanna use them all the way to the endlanas passives are swag but her active abilities are like whatever. someone said i could make her a fighter though but i love her healing passive
>>572298078She keeps the passive as a Fighter. You need the class change book. The jeweler sells them (400 gems Jewish). Ever couple of months there is a class change mission pass where you can get any class change book you want.
>>572297946Knight's cloak is a reward from an easy post-A3 quest. It goes in the accessory slot and gives any character way of the knight (stack's with the passive skill version). Always a white 1* so you lose out on stats.Use the trial to test Kagero's skill levels for himself. No other character wants a shitty damage evasion increase.
>>572298291oh awesome. someone said milana makes for a super good mage later so i might convert her to mage if i can. her iq is so high. should i make lana a fighter now? or will she miss out on any skills down the line
>>572298078>>572299075benis
>>572299075Generally you want to learn all the skills of a class before you switch since you need about book to switch back. Jeweler stock of books changes weekly so it can take some time to get the one you want.
>>572299075
>>572299175Amelia! <3
>>572298808The current easiest strategy for the swordnigger involves using a character with high counter attack, and ~400 evasion and evasion boosting skills to make him kill himself.
They should allow you to spend purple gems to get more green bones instead of purple.
>>572303081They do though.
Okay, I'm progressing through the fourth abyss and I just was brutally slaughtered by the cyclops found during the Witch Hunt quest.I'll try later once I hit level 70 before the GWO. Any deadlines or tips I should be aware off? I'd like to save that fucker for right before the last boss fight.
I really appreciate them giving us an option to never ever fall for chest traps ever again, unless you fuck up the minigame part. Balsamo gives a fucking absurd amount of detect.https://x.com/shigenori14294/status/2071237782136336718
>>572303693>BalsamoWho?
>>572303896a rare jew who lives to surf
>>572303896Gwo your newest nyontents...
>>572307484The fishing quest?
>100 posts in a dayPack it up, this slop is done
What is the next DRPG or Gacha we are moving to?
I dread the day a new physical damage character i want to use, comes to the game. I cant imagine farming relics again, especially since i got the sentry cyclops took me 5 days just to get 1 relic and it took 4 days to lvl 6 snow cyclops, that shit was a grueling one and a half even with the buff
>>572309576This game is too married to the le heckin hardcore grind philosophy that it insists upon itself that the players have to suffer for every new unitNo transferable grind progress for inherits and brews in a game that already asks you to grind like a fucking bot is simply bad, no 2 ways about it. They let you do it for bondmates, ffs.
>>572309480future DRPGs are unconfirmed but atari got the rights to wiz1-5indieslop varies a lot I saw starshard brigands mentioned awhile back and I added it to my list as for gacha, I dislike the overall genre and don't plan to play another oneaside from that I'm mostly looking forward to a mix of rpgs / crpgs / dark deity 3 / and outward 2
>>572308535b-benis...
>>572309576yeah its fucking stoopid how you have to do the whole regrind thing again, relics have got to be the shitiest supported thing in the game. Like these motherfuckers made it so you basically gotta regrind the WHOLE thing over again to put it on new characters, ON TOP OF the fact that they have less than a 30% drop rate when you get a shiny enemy, fucking slag man.
I'm sitting on my relics and not using any until the 2nd anni unitThey're gonna age like fine wine
>>572312974>"less than 30% drop rate"(dunno if ur right but it feels that way for sure)>most of the time drops 20 slag, 50 if ur sentry hunting>anything in the shop worth your time is 4 star for 1000 slagLUH MEOW, drecom is actually insane with this stuff
Damn Drecom ain't really beating the AI allegations anymore. I had some doubts on the latest character designs but this shit is straight up slop.
>>572303348More than what you'd get from the same conversion of green gems. 2,000 purple gems give you the same 11 bones you'd get from green bones. Unless I'm mistaken correct me
Did the Helmut battle get an update? He has a different cry when you battle him and the music is different as well.
>>572313273Same, but for the Big Titty Dark Elf.
When's Yrsa going to get her class change?
>>572317159Hopefully this week now that Gillion's super long banner is over. Unless she gets skipped too.
>>572314310to think i spent 500 bucks on sloppa, fuck...
>>572317536Nah, she has doesn't have the Y-chromosome debuff other the dwarves have.
>>572317159Healer Ysra
>>572314310no bro thats just the uhhhh battlefront girl in uhhhh a different style uhm
>>572318658There's always a chance that no CCs get released until the anniversary and then Erwin, Yrsa, Yoizou, and Linaria all get a new bard class at the same time.
>>572320489What's their band name? Down with Brown? (Down cuz two midgets and Brown because of obvious reasons.)
>>572314310Man that's not even the same art style. She's also missing an entire boob. This is much lower quality than we've seen before.
True Godefroi becomes even easier when you give Anemone some madios inherits. My only issue now is that Yuzu dies to random 500 damage Labadios hits and I'm to lazy to move bondmates or give her a dark hat.
>>572314310Kinda reminds me of the plastic love singer
>>572324662What a scrawny Yuzu, feed her some Benjamin/dwa knight
>>572328754Here's mine, is only disc 1, but the Arena Sigil did help
>>572328754She already has lvl 1 of each, so it would take a lot of copies to get the extra 10+ hp she needs to comfortably survive. The quickest solution is swapping her Donald bondmate (SP) for Sir Jack for the +20hp.>>572328889Rangers are even squishier than ninjas, she almost the same
>>572328754Lvl 2 benjamin, lvl 3 Kni gets her just above 500 which should give her a chance to live.>>572329839>she almost the sameI forgot to finish the sentence. My ninja Yuzu had almost the same HP as anon's Yuzu.
>>572329839>>572330069oh, she was Ranger, my bad
Now I definitely can't complain about her HP.>>572330316I do have 2 spare ninja books for her, I'm just being cheap and refusing to swap until lvl 80.
>Forgot to switch to NyaliceOh well. If Yuzu can now survive without it, I guess that works out.
hmmm nyes i am definitely a cat
>thaw out with a hot spring>chest>HNNNNNNNNGH *deep freezes entire party*Can you get the golden glove higher than 1* white or should I just put this thing on?
New Livana looks real good. And anons will call it "ai sloppa" roflcopters
>>572341249you can but just use whatever you got until you have 3 and need to start unifying.
>>572342596With the unify changes, you can just slam them into a better one but you’ll lose the rocks and gold used to upgrade.
Drycum should give us the month's Roadmap by tomorrow, right?
>>572346868In about 40 hours.
>>572346868mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnyo
I have worked my way through most of the A4 requests (did true end already) and now I am left with Trial Of the Stone God, the Arena Tourney afterwards and I do not see the "Rebuilding Rockhome Village" request for some reason. How hard are these requests and is it possible to wheel/retry them without fucking up the prerequisite quests and having to redo a bunch of stuff? Also anyone know how to get the Rebuilding Rockhome Village request? I did restore iris eyesight and I did bring maya to her aunt
What would it take for Wizardry to get a big popularity boost? would dumbing it down and making most fights easier while true end fights stay ball busting hard? more events? more caves?
Is it nyover...?
>>572350168Making it into a generic 1 button to awesome auto battler of the chinkroach and gookworm slop variety.
>>572350168Cut down on the amount of backtracking (needing to Wheel 3+ times to get the true end).Release more content AND -this is important- have it not just be a fucking cave with some different junk.The Battlefront was a good idea, the last difficulty being whalebait aside.That's literally it. We'll never reach Genshin numbers, but this game is definitely not living up to it's full potential.
>>572350168Announce a big 2.0 update together with Abyss 5, >new client for pc, >improved graphics and performance>new unique battle animations, flashier but not too over the top>revamped UI and compendium>Abyss 1-3 get new postgame questlines that expand the lore of the GWO/related npcs>Guild clans so there's actual reasons to add friends and more incentive to log on/grind, gives valuable rewards every month like doppel silver/universal weapon upgrades>Asynchronous PVP in the colosseum, register your team and then fight other players teams (controlled by ai)>Soulmate system, bind your soul with your favorite adventurer, they get unique voicelines and you can do a once-per-battle combination attack with them that has unique effects/buffs. Soulmates also cannot turn to dust when failing to revive.>Unlock a new home base that replaces ruins, a pocket dimension that remains constant even when you wheel, where you can freely talk to your adventurers without needing the tavern (requires reaching a certain level of affinity)>cooking system at camp, you can use the fish you caughtDo all of this and give it a big marketing push, and I strongly believe this game will do well.Of course it will never fucking happen though.
>>572349385>Trial Of the Stone GodNot very unless you screw it up on the way out and have to fight more encounters than you'd need to otherwise>the Arena Tourney afterwardsA step up for sure, but you can bring a ton of Nourishing and Elixirs and recover between fights, so do that>do not see the "Rebuilding Rockhome Village" requestDunno>is it possible to wheel/retry them without fucking up the prerequisite quests and having to redo a bunch of stuffNo lol, you have to lock in
>>572349385Actually I misread, you can wheel to the same spot to retry (except for Arena you'll have to redo Trial of the Stone God again), but you can't wheel any earlier or it's a reset
>>572353448>Soulmate systemI'm surprised this isn't more common. It's usually only a thing in games with female-only banners like Azur Lane, but you could just reword it so it's "merely a very deep bond" if you afraid of making it so Yeka cucks Dean or something. Gachas are all about selling characters and to an extent, making you parasocial with them. Leaning into it even more is just easy money.
>>572349385>Rebuilding Rockhome Village request?Nero in route 9 cabin. Follow the guide and bring potions.>it possible to wheel/retry them without fucking up the prerequisite quests and having to redo a bunch of stuffYes, check the guide for exact wheel points, but it is usually one quest per harken.
I got past the door in Wizardry 4 !
One day until we get the guild point FAS. Predict whether the cost is over/under 8k points.I say 8k exactly.
>>572350168a permadeath roguelike modelike I would play a nuzlocke abyss 1
>>572350168they can change the game as much as they want, the current shop/monetization/pull rate/pity system is just never gonna be popular, its dogshit
>>572350168They just have to simplify the fuck out of the entire game and put the whole thing on rails. Leave no retard behind.>change the cursed wheel to be a stage select so players can just move down it and clear all 3 routes and all endings without thinking>use waypoints everywhere to handhold retards through every floor and every request so it becomes impossible to get lost>nerf the unholy mother of dick out of everything so the game is retard easy>delete all the whale only superbosses and replace them with rotating endgame content that f2ps can complete but simply score poorly in>remove manual grinding and have equipment mostly come from idle rewards and the gacha, retention can instead be upheld through a long winded and overly verbose unskippable 10 hour story segment each update>delete the 100 pull to bone exchange and replace it with a pity system that automatically increases rates to 100% as you approach 100 rolls>gacha weapons can be made stronger and put on their own banner with a pity every 50 pulls>your characters can no longer perma die, at all. you're physically prevented from attempting to revive them without gems unless they have over 50 fort>>572357685Truke.Like, imagine how many people have been filtered by the gacha because they heard they can get the rate up legend at 100 rolls, but they did 100 rolls, the character never appeared, and they don't understand that there's a bone with a weird name in the shop that they can now exchange for. Even if that's only happened to 2% of players, that's still like 100,000 people and an absolute truckload of lost revenue, so it has to be streamlined.
>>572360587I had 3 friends who are gacha fiends instantly write off the game when they heard about the 100 pulls for pity combined with it taking like 50 copies of a character to truly max them out, its absolutely absurd, just make skills not leveled with dupes, only with exp scrolls and hand out way more of them, like its cool that you can put skills on everyone but theres gotta be a fucking limit. Also getting a limited to d9 should not need that absurdly many copies. But its too late to change now, whales would riot, its doomed to die a slow death over time. This is why you get only a small window during and after launch to get your monetization system right
>>572361224what's the problem? It looks like she has plenty.
>>572350168A new abyss every 6 months.Tone down on the legendaries and optional quests, focus on the developping story.Give out ebonsteel gear in the mailbox so new players can rush to A3, imo one set of armor, a shield and a sword would be enough.The advantage of gacha is it's like following a TV show, if the story drags on for too long people lose interest.
>>572350168Recurring characters in the story, like Guane.
>>572350168It literally would have to be a game that plays itself. If the antiguarda shitters are any identification.
>>572353448>>Asynchronous PVP in the colosseum, register your team and then fight other players teams (controlled by ai)You can configure tactics for all your party like FF12 gambits.Also:add hard modes of all current abysses. Werdna stalks the hard mode versions and he can be killed (very hard). He disables hook of harken, you can only accept Death when you fail to kill or run away from him.Accept death screen shows you what you lost. Wernda gets stronger every time he kills you or gets killed, his strength resets weekly. Thiefs have a skill to upgrade chest rarity and another skill to multiply junk drops.Blacksmith can combine junk to increase rates of specific items or rarity/grade of items.Tutor system where an invested unit can train what they know to a new adventurer. Takes real life time, no limitations on what skills can be learned this way. Tutor/student cant be used when they are training. At max level the "effects if learned by anyone else" is removed from the skill.
I would add a hard mode where weapons cannot be upgraded, chests drop items rather than junk, there is no fast travel, no map and the cursed wheel only brings Masketta back, his party can be lost.
Where to find humanoids for the quest?
>>572374706FORTITUDE REDUCING TILES AND WARP TILES EVERYWHERE!hell even combine them! Where you warp depends on fortitude and they also reduce it upon use!
>>572350168Gacha banners with unique kits that don't suck would be a fine start.
>>572375076Warp chest would be funny too
We need more sliders too.I expected so much of the water den puddle but it’s just poop water.
things that would save the game and totally not just things that I want:>all "event" holes now drop 200 currency average>transferable inherits and relicbrews>2% chance for purple 4 star drops from junks>100% extract rate>legal botting tier autos
We need a roguelite mode that you progress with temporary equipment/party members that you get by reversing junk/remains as you progress. You can then use the unique currency thats kept between runs or gems of org/erin to bring over the equipment/adventurers you reversed to your actual party outside the roguelite mode. They could also have guaranteed/boosted relics drops appear which people would want to bring over as well. Then there's the opportunity to have available featured equipment/legendaries in the roguelite rotate, so you can get gacha weps/skins of prev legos (rates would suck though I'm sure).
>>572376217No, it's fine that they have gimped every new Legendary since Yuzu>Gillion: everything about cry of ruin>Erwin: no CC lol>Yrsa: who is getting 70 hits within 2 actions to power up first arrow?>Yoizou: the inherit and the personal skill might as well be blank>Ainikki: no porto, no KD, no wotk, no wotp. Litokan sucks.>Linaria: can only encore from skills. Ballad is weak, but unique uses.>Anemone: Fairy gear. Hero's medicine is usually bad. Saved by her synergy anchor.>Kagero: evil frontliner
>>572379084lanakek...
>Gillion: literally me>Erwin: no apology gems despite false advertising>Yrsa: potato>Yoizou: stole my wife>Ainikki: not even garbage>Linaria: elfcore only spotify playlist>Anemone: non-binary>Kagero: wet dog
>>572379084Samurai is a bigger problem for gillion he can't compete with sam masketta or Shiou.No cc can save erwin.yrsa is actually good against golem.You're severely underrating Encore. You get the ability to buff twice per turn which no other character can do. Ballad gives a huge chunk of damage at 1 to three characters so in total Linaria is the only character in the game that can buff 5 characters in one turn if you use ballad+Prayer
i love her design 1234 chicken nuggets freedom grass cobalt gauntlets https://youtu.be/k-kv8yidNXA
>>572379084>>Kagero: evil frontlinerJust put Alice in the front bro
>>572381584>front line dinner
>>572381370>Samurai is a bigger problem for gillion he can't compete with sam masketta or Shiou.I'm still waiting on his samurai book. I haven't had much luck getting sam MC or Yoizou to work well. I used Bugen for a single fight vs true gatekeeper.>No cc can save erwin.I think he would have been fine with ninja (shedding) and adding the next level of single target spells in A5.>yrsa is actually good against golem.I used her there and it was still a slog. I probably will try to pull a few copies for discipline if she gets a fighter CC.I think she is the only legendary they released that was so bad that they had to go back and buff first arrow.>You're severely underrating Encore.You only ballad once every 3-4 turns, and the encore isn't guaranteed. Ballad is also a very weak buff (mostly flat damage) until they release a monk with a 20-punch attack.
>>572382267If they keep releasing squishy backline classes, eventually your priests will be using the frontline slot. The next class is also going to be a squishy, unless JD plans to give Erwin a heavy armor class.
>>572383106at that point you're better usign red brick and gerulf over an elf
>>572381571The 1st Abyss is pretty fun.
i havent logged in for 2 months...
>>572385651i love wizardry. this game is like a new wizardry game. isnt that crazy i didnt think it would be a real wizardry gamei dont know if this is possible in this game but it would be cool to beat the game with my starting party. i am attached to them
>>572388836It's absolutely doable
>>572388836How Camille?consider that the grand part of this general already did the first abyss when the healer released.also just use the economy suit, the royal give yous only a small chance to give you pots, not that much worth at that level.
>>572390546Royal Suite gives higher trait growth though
>>572388995nice>>572390546i got 40k gold from the uuuh login thing. it seems like a lot of money
>>572391551It isn't, you'll burn through millions while leveling gear
>>57239155140k is real nice in the beginning tbf I remember being strapped for cash in A1
>>572376217no thanks! not when relics exist like thry do now!
>>572378115unironically sounds good?
>>572392021oh i see >>572392636yea i was really surprised i was managing like the same 1.5k gold i had for a while then i got two 20k login rewards i was like WOW
>>572394252There is going to be several parts in A2 where they kill your whole party and it costs 20k per character to revive.
>>572388406im getting supplies ocassionally.
>>572394252there are a lot of events that make sell only items a lot more valuable, so if you save up while you grind for those events you will be rolling in it soon. You need like a million per fully upgraded piece of armor/weapon so you will eventually use a lot.
What are your thoughts on chest-opener Olive now that we have three (3) detect bondmates to choose from?
>>572398097I think it's valid. I think you want your main chest opener to be a thief because then you can codex nose for wealth for fat stacks and you might as well pick one that's pretty much futureproof just in case they do decide to bust out the hard chests again.
>>572398097auto chest opener when?
>>572399040If any thief gets it I hope its alt Aldric, he was made to be the ultimate chest opener but nobody uses him. One of the best dwarf designs too.
>>572388836I got to A3 Gatekeeper with my starting party who is general adventurers mostly.Learning to make use of openings and have a strong defense helps in this game.
>>572398097While not my personal choice, it is a perfectly valid one.
why is detect such a pain in the ass to raise
>>572395827kill my party? like mandatory deaths or just ones that are hard to avoid? >>572397005oh ok i was selling my fancy gold items for gold the moment i got them>>572403243how many abysses are in this game? abysses abyssi
>>572405765As in you're going to face multiple likely full party wipes, and the best you can do is lessen the number of people who die.There's 4 main abysses, and several smaller dungeons that unlock at various points.
>>572405993hmmm can't i use the uuuuuh flames of reawakening thing though to bypass needing to spending gold on revivals? like if i get to a boss that slaps my cheeks i can just use my flames and then leave the area and farm some?
>>572406770Without too many spoilers, there's a small section of A2 where you can't use flames of reawakening. It's widely agreed that A2 sucks.
>>572406770being as vague as possible near the end of the abyss pay for information so you know what to expect if a fight sounds scary, it is scary. Bring the MC solo to test the waters
>>572407726sounds scary. thanks for the tips.>>572407405ok now it sounds scarier
>>572406770It's really not that bad, I think I've only had to pay to rez anyone a handful of times since launch a year+ ago. Mainly after the final boss of an abyssYou'll be fine in A2 with Yek and following this advice >>572407726
>>572407882There is also a puzzle where if you don't bump into every corner, and inspect everything your party just dies.
I don't remember how to farm the ninjer cave anymore gwos...
>>572408682In A2? I dont remember this part
>>572417727The part where you almost drown and discover how to use reversal on the dragon statues
we drowning
>>572411518It was pretty bad walk in walk out spam from what I remember
>>572411518I think the b1 chests can have the old junk, so you want to do a loop through the lower floors.
>>572411518I spent ages just autoing known spawns / going for chests on b1fmostly while lvling characters or during the associated xp eventsif you're just after kunai, the rate was pretty shit, I got a surety line on 2* covert and ranked to +10/15I've had enough shrouded kunai from a4 to get 4*purp+20 without noteworthy farm
JWO (Jobber Warped One)>https://streamable.com/ptu9roYou can do whatever you want in the fight because Anemone deletes half of his moveset.
>>572432551For some reason people are trying to argue otherwise. healer is designed to make the game easier
>>572432551How did your asha oneshot the pillar at the start of the fight? How much mag does one need, when I had maybe 520 on her she couldnt do it even with lana damage boost
is there a table of mp costs at each way of the mage levelnot sure if i want to give sheli level 3 or give berk some levels so she can spam her maxed nuke
>>572439998I don't know the exact number you would need, but she has 601 magic along with the double synergies.You probably can do it with Lana and a shot of drugs if you are using Camille instead of Anemone.
>>572440524Lvl 3 is roughly a 20% discount from the spell's base. La 1 is 22MP, La 2 is 32MPGoing from lvl 2 to lvl 3, it is typically 1 mp less for every 15 mp cost.
>>572432551did they add new music for the true end fight? I swear it was different back then
>>572442797Last update.
bump
If I do the trial of the stone god for the first time, can I just wheel in place (Truth of the Beautiful Ore) to reset it without losing an of the prerequisites?
>>572452227its over...
>>572452227I dunno why they thought people would suddenly start blasting through abyss 3, most people stuck that early have not built up a healer to counter doll yet and the helper dwarf they added costs gems from what I know so noone is ever gonna use that shit
>>572452227nice playerbase wizkeks
>>572452227Assuming they won't fudge the numbers at the end like with gacha pre-registrations, I think this is a good pace. There's still a whole month, people's exp dispatch slaves will be level 60 sometime before then.
>>572454098I feel like they're gonna be too autistic to do that and just fail the challengetheir fault for catering to the small subset of whales too much and ignoring the casuals
>please please please clear guarda
What is so hard about Gaurda? Doll has so many counters now.
Next months preview will have contents!
Is there any point during this quest where I can go to town and rest at the inn or is the floor 6 fountain all I get in terms of healing?
>>572455292WAIT THAT'S NOW.
>>572452227Is it over?
>>572455292200 org code for the english webstoreBbNPNpy7De
literally me's anime pv is upit looks ok I guess but the manga art is way betterhttps://x.com/BladeandBastard/status/2071911638664724906
>>572461102>It's realThank you
I don't get it, if they wanted people to clear guarda so bad they should have made the free camille quest not locked to abyss 4, she hardcounters the hardest fight in abyss 3, new players get rolled by statuses because they do not have res gear or immunity gear
>>572463101She was in the crucible a week or 2 ago
>>572463101True. Casuals would rather throw Camille into dispatches for a few weeks than farm the anti-charm/confusion gear for their entire party. Farming shouldn't be something you lean to hard on game design-wise, but that goes double when it comes to merely progressing. Sweats can farm to beat a superboss, but anything beyond that is just asking your average mobile game player to stall their progress indefinitely.
>just spoil boss fights #adthe fuck brah
>>572463526thats not any help to people who get stuck on guarda next month or the month after etc etc, it will always be a roadblock for people who are slightly less autistic than most of us here
>>572463101i told my ONLY irl friend that plays the game semi monthly and has spent hundreds(at least 10x more than me) and he still hasnt played through a3 yet even though he beat doll boss fourth try...
>>572456150The hard part is getting people to actually play the game for these mobile games.Unless your game play itself with face rolling retard difficulty or you really really really incentivize it, only 10-20% of your active player base will actively clear and do content as it releases.
>>572455292Nice example for ppl who struggle with the fight.
>>572464225its kinda funny seeing these guys breeze through the bossfights with overleveled characters, skill levels, and gear that lets them surety, when the casuals get to these fights and/or dont know the meta for the abyss, these fights are gonna like 10x harder for them
I remember the fight with the laser eyes being harder than Bordaon.
>>572452227drecom you were supposed to fake the numbers...
Guarda is also just a huge fucking hassle with now you need to do it three times to actually clear it.
>>572465032lets not remind people about the fucking gamblers, the casuals are definitely NOT gonna like thatKEKLEO
>>572463101I think that the story post A1 just drops off hard. In A1 stuff happens to the NPCs like Elmon, Vern and the Captain and you actually care about them, even fucking Albano ends up being somewhat likeable towards the end. A2 doesn't have that at all, Bonnie and Clyde, Rickert and Ugo, even Melgina and Gessi all feel like sidestories. By the time you reach A3 and you're expected to care about Duke Ixion and his fuckass family line you're probably bored to death with all these literal whos with the most bland npc designs, most of which you don't even meet until the end of your 2nd or 3rd run. The only character I wanted to interact with more was the admiral's sexy catgirl and she basically did nothing until the final boss, and even that was offscreen.
>>572465386>gamblersI forgot about the cancer of getting critical poison every turn.
Abyss 5 status?
>>572465386Gambler fight with poison immunity from healer should be a lot more manageable
>show boring ass farming during the adgood stuff!
>>572465032I have always been of the opinion that the Cursed Wheel gimmick will get old real fast if they don't use it sparingly enough. It's not fun mechanically if the dungeon is largely the same save a few short cuts. It's bad narratively, because everything is boiled down to a strict formula:>Fuck up at every possible crossroad to get knowledge>Get executed>Fuck up slightly less>Get an okay ending>Okay, now once more for the true ending now that you've stepped on every landmine.You can't not use the Wheel at all, since that's what the whole plot is built around, but they could have you finish your "trial and error" phase halfway through the Abyss and then you use your knowledge to finish the other half.
>tell story about how some guy died to a level 5 rabbit and lost 15 million exp(contract things) etcdoes this tard really think that most people would find it funny, definitely kinda funny to autists and wiztards(us), but that shit would definitely turn off everyone else
>>572465972It should be used more in dungeons. More stuff can be reversed. Reversing everything is a death trap like that BoF game where you lose if it use your OP ability too much.
>>572466204Doubt the average player even knows about the contracts at all. Hell I haven't even bothered unlocking them myself.
does it matter what dialogue options i pick during the tavern scenes and stuff? i keep making thief lady upset saying what i assume is the wrong stuff
>>572463101Camille wouldn't be enough. If someone is getting walled by the doll without her, they're definitely getting bent over by the corrosion eyes, gamblers, and the GWO.The fact is that getting strong enough to bust through the walls the devs put in front of you requires a ton of time spent grinding, but also a lot of time spent researching how to get stronger at all. We're all autistic psychos here who can handle that shit no problem, but normalfags don't want to open chests for 500 hours to get some evasion equipment for A3 that will be useless in A4. They don't even know they need evasion equipment in the first place.I think if JD made dispatches give junk that was all guaranteed to be good, or maybe added special guaranteed rewards, like full meta armor sets or specific characters, for completing certain achievements, they might begin to see the clear stats they want.
>>572468659Yes and no. Correct options give trust, but high trust doesn't do anything important. Check fasterthoughts for the correct options.
>>572469106ok thx you sir also should i enhance my weapons sparingly given i will most likely be replacing them a lot
According to the Discord, the new code gems are time limited.
>>572468713They could've reworked defense to be better when they did the 2hander rebalance. That way, a casual player can just unify any old junk with Def/M.Def lines and not have it be a complete waste.
>>572470226There's just this one right? Grab your 1 pull while it's hot!>>572461102
>>572470226Yes, it expires later today 7:59 PM (PST). A very temporary code.
>>572465535this is truethey probably recognized this problem which is why we got an extremely fuckable heroine for a4 but that doesn't help people who haven't got that far
>The B&B anime comes in 2027We are getting the anime at the collab anniversary in march, right?
>>572474851Anime release, 3rd door, different colored dragon, Garbage banner.Another year sorted.Yep, running Daphne is so hard.
I'm sorry JD, but this isn't the kind of game that is gonna have mainstream appeal.
>>572476231You'd think it would, since it has the backdrop of a Japanese (dark) fantasy lightnovel.
Are you done your bounties yet?Also, the FAS was not added to the guild shop yet.
>>572461246It looks like pure ass..
>>572476231It could, they would just have to copy other modern mainstream gachas sand off every rough edge.
>>572477218X niggas in a blob haven’t been popular since games were only for turbo nerds.
>>572477218some fine beastfolk females you have there
>>572465535This
Let me skip all the bullshit parts and teleport me straight to the bosses or new mechanics for true end clears already. Let me sweep dailies too.
>>572478110I hate this "hoyoslop or nothing" mindset. The game won't suddenly become "le epic chink gacha for dopamine addicted zoomers" by cutting down on the tedious bullshit. Like exp events in other gachas is "oh you earn double level up mats for your stamina" and it's a footnote in the event lineup, where as here fighting dolls in a cave or sweeping gold dust off the floor is our entire """content""" for a week or two because the resource economy is so dogshit.
>>572461246still more budget than opm
>>572455292JENAZAD
Did they update the spawn rate for chests? because I'm getting way more then I remember from both enemies and showing up on the map.
>>572470548they could buff Magic Damage whitout wailing like Moby Dick while they are at it
>>572483429Isn't it mostly because elemental damage spells scale like shit? FERU lv 7 is still FERU after all. Fighters keep getting better staple skills, I think it's high time spells got "tiered up" too.
>>572484485maybe a moderate spell whit an extra effect depending on the element (Fire Burns, Water drences, unno bout earth and wind)or a Line spell like penetrating shot
>>572485260I'd be down with giving standard damage spells a little something extra. It's a pet peeve of mine when elemental systems in games just boil down to "damage, but in a different color". Abyss 4 is a step in the right direction.
>>572485260>earthCovers them in oil, slowing them and making the next Fire attack hit extra hard.>windBlows off their clothing, reducing M/DEF
>>572481398Doing capital dailies is your sweep
Gwos I'm worried about leaving him alone with my wives...
Good booba.
>>572486886Bitches love the knot. Soon you will too.
>>572487138what does good milk taste like?
>>572486886>*pets Kagero's head*>*pets Yuzu's head*>*pets Chloe's head*>*pets (You)r head*You should be worried about ME little nigga.
I want some girl getting a Succubus skin, sorta like Asha alt.
>>572465535the high from a1 ending carried me through most of a2, together with edgy shagtis intrigue, a3 was mostly carried by the abyss itself being a cool aesthetic, I do miss having more NPC interaction during the first run of the abyss instead of having all of it backloaded like a4 where you are not gonna do all the lategame requests to rebuild the village or the iris quest until your 3rd or 4th run. I also understand that you can't really fully recreate the magic of a1 since a huge part of it was thinking these people were permanently dying and I don't see them revealing some huge feature like the cursed wheel again in a future abyss. I do hope we get more elmon and shagtis and faction leader content
>>572468713You dont have to beat the gamblers and corrosion eyes get hardcountered by chronostasis/evade so I disagree, doll is by far the biggest hurdle for people who do not farm gear and even the most undergeared healer completely hardcounters that fight
>>572468713dispatches take so long that they are essentially dailies, they SHOULD be giving good junk, one or two purple pieces at the minimum every day no matter which dispatch you pick. They should consolidate most of them into 1 exp+gold+junk daily dispatch anyways, noone is running the gold one and if you are out of stuff to level, noone is running the exp one
>>572488279>they SHOULD be giving good junk, one or two purple pieces at the minimum every dayAt least 1 fey junk for dispatch.
Do we buy new month pass thing now? Or is it a waste until the 17th when it gets updated.
>>572487378Heaven.
>>572489690i roll so little passes kind of mean nothing. At this point Im just waiting for an actual OP character to drop some gems on. I think im back up to 70k and Im only logging in for suplies and guild rewards not even doing dailies.
>>572489690even if it gets updated i doubt you would get shafted out of any rewards cause whales would riot.
Your response?
>>572491363Pft no way, fag.
>>572491363Jesus christ those tits
>>572492393
i like how the characters get dirty over time
>>572492602imagine the warriors she'd raise with her milk
>>572493095Regular berka gets so dirty lol
Bounty shop's reset, so get to it.
>>572491363Witchfucker team
thank you doggy
errmmmm we will be getting some gems from the guarda milestone right?
>>572499750
post cats
>leveling and farmin ninjas>suddely the bone gobbo appears>oh shid, gib me bone>turn it to bones II>get the extra Savia i was waiting to inherit to my KageroTHE TIME HAS COME AND SO AM I!!!!!
Its a dog eat dog world
i'm finally doing the other two faction quests for guarda
savia foreverially tiedup fully permanently delitized inside kagero's warm bologna body stomach digesting
>>572502362
>>572503832
>>572504159IRRATIONAL
>>572502574>Imagine not waiting for the double legendary event
Double event won't return they gave us the standard currency as a replacement, another double event with the currency would be too generous.
>>572505687>Falling for the double legendary event>When the relaunch celebration triple legendary bonanza is coming with Abyss 5
Virtue is stored in the breasts
>>572506618Don't care. Still holding for bone 3 arboris+sheli inherits. Shiou and Livana get sent to the dispatch mines.
>>572508231JUSTICE BE SERVED
Alice is tall
>>572511387>6in heels>everybody else is made short because drecum coding>still short as fuck
>>572511387>All the women look up at you in the post-battle animations >they're all actually taller than you except midget lana
>>572489690How worth it is the month pass?
>>572516362Very worth. The FAS/Lego bone from the guild shop are usually sold for $30 each. Codex of learning is also quite expensive.Just treat it as a second star passport bundled alongside a separate $10 purchase of a lego dupe (the 5 codex) per month.
>>572350168We need a marketable meme. that's how every gacha hit it big. look at speaki with trickcal and doro with nikki and cunny and the crying emoji with blue archive just to name a few.
>>572518368what's genshin's meme
>>572518475eating paimon
>>572518757well i want to eat lulu's butthole
>>572518475Genshin was simply right place right(covid) + the press of being a botw clone when it first was revealed + being the first gacha to look like an actual game.
>>572518475Emergency rations
dont forget to get your relics! last day of relic up event!
Good use for adventurers bones tokens? Is any of the gear worthwhile?
Easy mode when?
eeeehh?? easy modo??
I have 59 exchange for keeper of the mirror mere and was able to get 2 Copies, Should get one more bone for free from the pass, It isn't worth spending an extra 40 for the armor or a extra copy right? I have every Legendary from Bones 1 & 2 with a dupe.
>>572527389the majority of gacha gear is not worth rolling on and the ones that are have something unique like 3 hitsif you don't want another copy of liv, this is a very good point to stop rollinggrab the extra bone so you 60 and then pick either legendary 1 or 2aside from gerulf (unless you're building him) most of the 1 inherits have some use. if you're lucky you get an alice or adamif you go for 2, rinne inherit is solid on fighters if you don't have that yet but unless you're also trying to disc leg2 characters I'd just go with 1
Roadmap soon.
My expectations are grounded surely I can't be disappointed?
>>572489690nothing in this game is a good deal or "worth it" not even the """"accidental"""" discounted pulls
>actual real happy ending of abyss 4 is hidden behind not only the true end but also a bunch of side requestsIt feels great seeing rockholm inhabited again but the fact that it breaks if you wheel at all is so dumb, just make the nero quest a flag
>>572542817Sometimes I wonder if they even know the questlines don't save at all if you wheelIt took them months to release something in Guarda wasn't saving that was supposed to, I think it was the last Harken but can't remember
>>572544521>releaserealize*
liv...
Lulunya stolen from Leddit.Apparently it cost like $700.
TRVTH. NVKE.
>>572553209so this is what normalfsgs think
>>572553535>Cant even get past the first floorYou can't make this shit up if you tried.
>>572555343Pretty sure "lap" means a playthrough, not a floor. Which checks out given the "please clear Guarda" campaign we got going on right now.
>>572553209>>572553535It's thrilling avoiding as many fights as you can while you blitz through and look for the next boss to sink your teeth into, and Guarda was the perfect playground for itI can't imagine being dull enough to think you're supposed to just walk into every monster in the way then complain when it doesn't work out
There will never be another abyss like Guarda to keep players from quitting the game.
Tbh the dungeons are too small and simple for normal runs but also extremely boring and tedious for farming.
>>572552473...lov
>>572556424Good. Guarda sucked. Cool idea, shit execution.1 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 2's arena
>>572556424Cool. I will quit the game
>>572556424you should see the amount of people that drop the game at abyss 1, i had a bro who played it twice and he dropped the game both times at floor 4 LMAO
>>572556424tedious =/= difficulty and this game is really showing thatand poe2 also, iykyk
>>572557802A certain crowd loves to hide behind the word tedious when the game doesn't play itself.
>>572557643my actual brother that introduced me to EO dropped it at A1 B7F and said he doesnt like that you needed OP units to clear itI was so disappointed
>>572557871yes yes endlessly farming with low rates is fun, ESPECIALLY opening everything you farmed and sorting stuff is fun with shit ui, waiting for every animation(out of game/combat ones included) that youve probably seen a million times is fun, walking through poison traps that freeze you for a second is fun, having to basically replay the game three times...COULD be fun, but not enough actually changes for it to actually be particularly interesting unfortunately(but when there is different stuff, they add stuff like gamblers, like ???)oh man LETS NOT EVEN TALK about old mausoleum or even now how it is STILL 50/50 junk rate just to waste your timelike cmon manbut the game has soul and is still a unique experience enough for us hardcore autists to sit and grind through abyss 4
>>572558921>didnt mention relicslarp larp sahur
I'm enjoying Guarda but I was pacing myself because you all seem to be going crazy farming alabaster cave over and over now that there's no more content.
>>572557871And you're the kind of cocksucker that's vehemently against any QoL because it'll affect your "gamer-cred". I bet you thought junk taking up inventory space was good actually, because "it's called inventory management, you casuals!".
>>572560140But they did QoL inventory like 5 times, the casuals don't want to farm at all, or have it pointed out that you don't have to farm anything in Guarda itself to clear it, gear from Ship 2 or some cave is fine
>>572560140I remember when the guarda cum guardians booted me out of guarda with 9999 bronze junk.. I couldn't play the game for months...
>>572469986if you're early game dont blow all your cash to upgrade your gear yet, maybe up to 3 if you want to complete the No Limit orientation mission. theres a point in Abyss 2 where you'll actually get decent drops (ship) and thats a good place to start investing if you need to thats fine but try not to spend to many of your Low Iron Ores since they're scarceif you do need to, focus on unique gear/Iron level gear first
