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Tomoko and Miku stink lmao
First for skipping Migu and Tomoshit.
last for minami
Any chances we go back to Top 50 this month? >>572148753
Say thanks to Migu for saving the game!
Miku sold worse than Yukari, grim stuff
Lucky number 7 for my wife, Tomoko!
>>572149565Kill yourself
>>572149676I find it funny that as soon as you got here, the shilling for Miku in the thread was ramped up to 100
Thank you Miku for being hot, meta, and chasing off obnoxious faggots back to Hoyoverse games.
>>572149565Thank you, Miku!
migu
Reminder that it is morally correct to shit on doomkeks every chance you get.
>>572149565I would have spent real money if this was her outfit. Not a huge fan of her P4 one, so I only used my stashed f2p gems.
>Reconciliation/Creation for MikuThat's actually not a bad idea. Thanks whalebro. I won't change from Labor since my cards are near perfect but it's something to keep in mind.
>>572150459 Free Miku skin announced during apology stream. Also paid summer Miku skin.
>>572150593It’s a terrible idea.
>>572150548Explain how Turbo is better than T. Wind and F. Mont is better than Violet without sounding like a fucking retard.
>>572150548wtf you guys told me akihiko and yukari were bad wtf wtf wtf
>>572150548Tomoko schizo spent weeks saying Yukari was worse...
>>572150593for general usage power might be better than labor, unless u do ur big burst on first turn of s3 (unless opinions have changed on it)
>>572151076They're in the same tier bro
>>572151076FMont is better than Violet cause she's a 2 turn DPS that's not married to a particular support. Violet is useless without Chord while FMont will keep being used with stronger and stronger supports.
>>572150985idk man ive seen people get 5 billion score with that as her set
>>572151715The order inside the tier matters.
>>572150548Who asked, Najox?
>>572151971>>572150548>Najox tier listOk, opinion discarded.
>>572151781I wish my companio has DPS whales. All we have are supports.
Remember when A6 Ann was supposed to be as good as CNY Rin?
>>572151778Everyone has Chord retard.
>>572152829Kek imagine not having her
>>572152829Never take /p5x/'s meta advice. If you did you'd have A1 Ange, A1 Miku, A1 Tempest Riko, A1 Turbo and no DPS to use them with besides A1 Twins.
>>572152829>Remember when A6 Ann was supposed to be as good as CNY Rin?Yeah? Like right now?
>>572153125You're a fucking idiot. God.
>>572152413well the 5b is with full a6r6 and retarded rotation due to miku being retarded, if ur acc is half decent u can easily join a lower end top 10 or 20 guild with atleast one whale who gets everything a6r6
>>572152829Rin is the only skippable sweeper because A6 Ann can cover her element. Every other case isn't comparable because 4.0 characters are much more stronger.
>>572153487yeah she can cover it and do like half the damage! We're not talking about you getting a high enough score to auto, faggot.
>>572153585A6 Ann does like 25% less damage, each other case like T. Motoha and N. Luce / Fox and S. Miyo is true though.
>>572153859Cool! You're aware most people don't have her A6 right?
>>572153125>Doubling downLet me guess you think Ange is better than Miku too?
>>572154084This is other discussion, still you can get Ann with free standard pulls, the same can't be said about F. Rin.
>>572153859I have A6 Anne. It is about 60% less damage. But that is with A1 Rin. I also skipped Matoi btw.
I got miku A2 A2 ooeeoo
Uh oh, another T schizzy melty
>>572154230I know you still have buyer's remorse about pull F. Rin when A6 Ann exists, but she's literally the only case in the entire game like this, please get over it.
>>572153109>A1 AngeNobody knew Miku was happening, this was a good pull plan at the time and she's still good.>A1 MikuStill a good pull.>A1 Tempest RikoThis was a horrible shill, yes.>A1 TurboAlso a horrible shill.>no DPSDeciding that you're okay with falling behind on score trials because you don't want to pull dps units that you know for a fact will be powercrept in 2 months is a slippery slope but is pretty easily justifiable for f2ps.
>>572154327yeah if u do insane pulls, and then also have to get ann and u have to think about the standard pool getting expanded as well
>>572154536So what are those support units going to be doing exactly with no new DPSs?
>>572154505I don't have Rin so your desperate projection won't work here. Sorry.
>>572154327It's not a fair comparison when getting an A0 Rin is infinitely easier than getting an A6 Ann, which you can theoretically never get especially with the Standard pool getting bigger. On average, a F2P player probably has an A3 Ann.
>>572154408I don't know about A1 F. Rin, but A0R0 vs A6R0 Ann was already tested and Ann damage is 25% ~ 30% lower. When you compare with T. Motoha vs N. Luce, the difference is absurd.
>>572153487Tons of people are gonna skip Miyu for Fox
>>572154840You forgot the 2 free cognition tickets from Lufel Plan.
>>572154662They support dps units that you will pull. What a stupid question.
Luce is a male so that automatically makes him worse
>>572155172If you're chasing A1 supports you're not pulling any DPSs without very good luck or occasional topups.
>>572155123You are talking about mindscape level 100 Fox, another entirely different discussion.
>>572155280guild supports are also an option, since many people pull supports purely for gb
>>572155423Okay, then you're correct. With that said we have anti social faggots here with how low the /vg/ guilds place.
>>572155280People are A1ing supports comfortably BECAUSE they have so many gems from skipping dps units that foresight allows us to know are bad. Also from skipping healers and saboteurs which are just meh units in general. I have every navi/support A1'd except for Turbo and Wind Vast and I have like 100k gems because I've only pulled a few dps units that are reasonably future proof eg I skipped summer slut Motoha but I pulled Haru.
>>572155189He's a fruity Italian. Or rather, just Italian. So I don't mind him.
i have like 800 gold tickets how much gems is that converted with dupes
>>572155936100k? do u spend on the game or no, seems like a decent amount of gems to have
>>572156256Yeah I'm minnowing, just the monthly gem pass.
>>572156238i think around 15k
I'm skipping summer Marian because I don't want buy her items
Im thinking completely removing Miku is how they can atone, let's hope they announce that theyre doing that on the apology stream
>>572156896this and my general aversion to the summer sluts kills her for me. i've been metafagging a lot so far but i draw the line here
>>572155139Not really. Even with them I would only have a4 ann. It is all rng and significantly worse odds than just a0 Rin.
>>572156896just a6 her and you can spend them for free>>572157019fruity post
why is there no miku tycoon invite...
As a f2p (no minnow passes or top ups) it is impossible to get the dps if you roll for supports. I had to skip every dps since Makoto and am still missing half the supports (no turbo or matoi).
>>572157459According to /p5x/ you can A1 every character for free though???
oh fugg it migu :3
>>572157304nobody wants it
>>572155936>DPS units that they know are bad>don't roll for Mont FG bro
Can summer Marian double up on the same item?
>>572157304That would be giving her a personality
>>572157459You have next level bad luck then. Like full pity failed 50/50 for every unit you tried to pull. You're telling me you've skipped every 2/3 units for nearly the entire game's lifespan and you're still broke?
>>572157459do wonder like a0? r0? a1? what were u pulling on them seems a bit much to be that poor. doing all dailies and events etc? including guild and sos for the jewels?
>>572157941FS mont is weak on global, by the time her mindscape shit comes we'll have another selector on top of the one we already have (if you feel inclined to grab her now). She did get slightly more mileage due to Violet being pushed back though, foresight failed us there.
>>572150934I would be okay with Miku dancing in a bikini the entire fight.
>>572158347You are a fucking moron lmao
>>572158459Not an argument. I drop into this general like once a week just to poke the glass, are all of you think retarded?
As a free to play, I am missing:Joker, Messa, VWind, Kasumi (though tbf there’s a nut with her at A6 in my guild), Goro, Yukari, and AkihikoBut I also have a ton of characters at A1+ (higher of course for the standards), and weapons for I’d say 80% of my 5*sI feel very comfortable with my units and the amount I’ve been rolling
Have they been adding a mindscape expansion every update? They need to hurry and release SMotoha's
>We could have gotten a Nikke collab>instead, Nikke has a collab with Persona, and we got stuck with HASUNE MIGU
>>572158624doesnt seem bad at all for f2p, are you able to clear all the content like astrolabe?
>>572159180miku beats any soulless coom slop easily
>>572159319Astrolabe’s been fine since the second one that had the one awful angels (iirc) fight. Pretty consistantly tier 7 for SOS, but i was able to sneak into 8 when Haru came outThe thing I like about Tartarus is it lets you play with the people you don’t have so there’s not even really much fomo for missing units either
>>572159180Bro. NoNikke would be like actually eating feces. Don’t tell me you actually want that shit Miku is nowhere close to how bad that would be.
>>572159319mindscape only has 4 hard nodes and the twins can just bruteforce them. an anon was making fun of the lack of dps earlier if go for supports but the it's true how much the twins hard carry accounts. if sega really wanted money, they should have waited to rerun twins during anni when newfags will be asking for recs and be given the same answer each time: a1 twins.
Miku mother fucking flopped
>>572159989Ah true, I keep thinking with astrolabe clearing in 1 battle, and yeah a1 twins do carry an insane amount. Since spending a bit of money since the half anni I'm kinda unsure on how low spenders perform ngl
>>572160342Flopped into our hearts and wallets
>>572158347Post your pathetic Fleuret score when Melchizedek drops again lmao>b-but SoS and NC d-don't matterThey are literally the only thing going on for this game, your pulls are meaningless if you don't use your characters for them. I love to see retards whom don't care about the elemental system in a fucking Persona game.
>>572158162The 110 banner has 0.02% rates. Mathematically speaking going to pity is EXPECTED luck.
>>572161601No, flopped financially. Nobody rolled!
>>572161739You’ve kinda fallen into a trap that you set for yourself. It’s a persona game - correct, which means that competitive isn’t really a thing people care about. Caring about competitive is a gachafaggot thing. People roll/use units because they like said units - that’s how persona games work
>>572162184its 0.4%
>>5721617391) If you're competing to be in rank 8 in SoS every single season, you're competing with whales and you're going to lose anyway.2) If you only measure the strength of a dps in their ability to clear shill content, every dps is strong.There are two strategies for f2p accounts: pull who you like or take advantage of foresight and pull units with a lot of longevity. You will never be able to pull every single unit as a f2p so measuring the strength of a unit on whether or not they're strong on the first day of their release is retarded.>>572162184I was talking about pulling on the 80 banner. If you're pulling the 110 I have no idea how you could be that behind on units. 110 allows you to pull basically every other banner and stay neutral if not green on gems.
>>572162256Tons of people rolled. The real question is how much that translated into actual spending because of all the free rolls they’re giving for the anniversary - which reduces the total amount people need to spend
>>572162571Why would you ever pull on the 80 banner?
>>572162326Like I've said before: the only thing going on for this game are the competitive modes. Even if you say their rewards are shit or whatever, this is the kind of game you're playing. You pulling only for the best dps ever doesn't matter after all, this game perpetuals modes want you to cover every elemental weakness and the devs have said this is going to get even worse from now on. Go play other shit if you just want to pull one single dps because you are a damn retard.
>>572162934I don't know, but that's the only way I can imagine a person skipping EVERY dps since Queen and still being behind on support units. I don't think that's mathematically possible, or he's just hoarding like 100k gems.
>>572162935See, you think like a gachafag. Not a personafag. Your values are completely different
>>572162935- guy getting gaped and raped 24/7 on the leaderboards by whales but still thinks there's any fun or merit to "competing" in a gacha game
>>572163060It is if you are also rolling for weapon and A1 like /p5x/ tells you too. A0 only is doable tho yes.
Should I get Chord A3 or Makoto A0
>>572164806chord A3 does fuck all, makoto A0 is a new character you can look at
>>572164806Chord a3 doesn't do much, makoto even a0 will just be a good single target unit
>>572164806between those unless youre going to try and get chord to a6 eventually or maybe even a4 as that can change your teams hl rotations you can go with queen but shes fallen off quite a bit. she got mindscape buffs on cn recently thats a while away for us but from the numbers shes doing with them its sounds really good
>>572165253 (me)thought makoto yuki, im a fucking retardqueen has fallen off but will eventually get a buff if that matters to you, chord unless u hit a4 or a6 soon wont be that much of an improvement. Queen can still be useful in certain scenarios
Don't pull dps characters because after two patches we will get a better dps. You probably should skip all dps until 8.0 because they will be powercrept. Just spend all your gems on A6 supports and navigators.
>>572165912>Pull Chord>She's bricked 6 months later because of theurgies>Pull Ange>She's bricked a month later because of Miku:(
Reddit agrees with the non-elemental coverage fags, then I will do the opposite and cover all elements.
>>572165997i wouldn't say bricked, shes just getting less use currently due to everything being p3 related itll go away soon (cope), when berry drops shes her best support, and in the future with closer as well
>>572158347>2nd strongest st dps on global>weak
>>572166430After p3r ends it is p5 DAN. Do they work with Chord?Also when we get to p4r shilling they will have their own non highlight gimmicks too.
>>572166279And you'll be happy, because they only care about the best dps ever everytime, but since the game gives you a better dps after three patches, they won't ever be satisfied with their new toy. Meanwhile I will be happy with my F. Mont until Yosuke drop next year since we won't get another wind assassin until then.
>>572165997>Pull Migu>Popipop pipop poppipo :]
>>572166602Third strongest, which makes sense because she was the third most recently released and every st dps is the strongest st dps when they come out because this is a gacha game.
futaba A1 or chord A2?
Yeah I'm thinking it's Miku Miku time.
>>572166673Honestly i have not been looking into p5d (several months away with current scedule), and with p4r i really have no clue from what i saw (havent checked everything) havent seen anything like theurgys maybe someone else has in trailers and can correct me. But as of now she's still a viable and good unit for most people / accounts
>>572167168Flop Flop*
>>572167003If you dont have ange or miku there's an argument (kinda) to be made for futaba its only a tiny cr increase, but honestly I'd still just go for chord ngl, if she was already a2 I'd have said go for something other than chord
>>572167374P4R gimmick is prime time, triggered by spamming baton passes. It won't work with Chord.
>>572155123Waiting a whole year for an alternative is certainly a choice
>>572167938But like, the thing is you can still just use regular fox and do okay if not good. Cherish is much more available now too, so you’re not in a bad position there either
>>572168067A0 Fox is really bad right now though.
>>572156896The 200 yen items? Then again thats more funds for the crane game plushies
Just to follow up with the A6 Ann = A0 CNY Rin discussion. Could an A6 Makoto Nijima fill in for Prism Bui? I just really prefer Makoto over Bui, and I've already got her A2. Thoughts?
>>572168181He’s still going to outperform everything else in the Surt fight
>>572168448But surely is going to be a miserable experience like people using Motoha because they skipped Akihiko.
>>572167776Ah thank you, Yeah they could very well just have it so chord doesn't work with them. Though I do think that when p4r gets added itll be like in a year atleast. accounting for p4r to actually release and then also to catch up with cn and all that stuff (idk how long that will take might already be caught up with p4r release). So if ur alright with not having chord for possibly a year atleast and then maybe not working for p4r u could just skip her, but she will see use with berry and radiance closer. but at the end of the day just get what u enjoy
>>572168443Unfortunately their case is unique: anything from 4.0 and beyond is going to be much more busted damage-wise.
>>572168602Just use A6 BUI and have fun instead?
>>572168683I mean you don't really need Chord right now during the p3r shilling phase unless you go out of your way for berry.
the biggest crime of this collab is miku doesn't dance, she just spaz out from side to side like a crack addict in need of a fix
>>572168443She just got a mindscape core so we don't know yet. Fox became better than summer puppet with his.
Can't wait to see the ones who skipped Berry and Joker using Sepia AOE skill in a few weeks.
>>572169073Yeah ur right, we can see chord anytime desu, berry wont come until summer units anyway assuming s puppet got pushed ahead. I think chord is best option for cogni and the selectors though but not worth to pull on
>>572166850Kasumi keks really need to stop coping.
Finally got Miku through rerolling.Should I try aim for getting another Miku or save for future characters?
>>572169539
>>572158008It doesnt stack and become stronger or anything
>>572169975Don't invest vertically if your account is brand new. Try to get as much new characters as possible.
>>572168443pretty rough calculations but some vids have prism yui doing 3-4x better than queen in comparison but that could be an understatement because it wasnt optimal, with queen at a6 you could probably at least double her damage and imo best case scenario do half of yuis damage but thats probably optimistic. if you really like queen you can probably get her to a6 anyway slowly with things like selectors and cognitite shards bu the time she gets buffed>>572169638https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Us_UbJKXBsthe buffs in action, pretty damn good
>>572170042It's Migu :D
>>572169975id definitely save for future ones until you get at least one good main team
>>572169975>migu will not attract new players>worst collab everyeah right
>>572170042IS THAT HATSUNE MIKU?
>>572158347Shes one of the few dps with a decent alternative in Fleuret so I also opted to skip her until the selector. It worked out alright.
>>572169975A1 miku is very good (1 extra copy), but as a new player u need new units especially damage to actually get use from it. She will probably be ur main navigator for a long time so A1 could be good and its the max I'd recommend to anyone with a newer account anyway, you can skip the weapon no problem.The next unit we get is a buffer/support and after that should be a damager so u could just save for now
trying too hard T schizzy
>>572159086Around every other patch. But not enough resources to level them all, only half of them.
>>572165912This but unironically. Cant go high on your favorite dps because uhoh the elemental shill makes them useless as soon as the shiny new thing comes out and some random 4* will beat your favorite in score unless you pull again while supports last for years
yo guys i was reading mikus kit isn't she a 4 turn navi? maybe even 5 turn? why do people say she's good for 2 turn dps?
>>572170737I did the same thing. Easy choice for the selector over a dupe of Fuuka. I could have done A2 Chord but that's just boring to me.
>>572166673Chord works with Starlight Joker yeah. Source: I have both
>>572149565Thank you MIGU!
>>572165912Don't pull dps that are subpar day 1 like Akechi or get powercrept within a couple months. Queen was the strongest ST for like 5 months, that's a good pull. Violet and Akechi are not very good pulls.
>>572169975Use the banner that has all the different units to try and get some of thoseSupports and Navis are good, but they need DPS characters to make better for them to actually function(You could probably pick up her weapon tho, that’s not a terrible idea)
>>572170737Yeah fair honestlyFleuret is still pretty cool for a 4*
>>572172097>base MotohaGrim
>>572168067If he was anyone else perhaps but Fox really is extremely bad
>>572166279>Reddit agreesSeems in line with the level of tourism involved on all the shitposting since Migu reveal.
is there a miku gachapon machine?
>>572172272idk if id do that desu, most of the characters on the rerun banner are pretty old and powercrept and it might be better to just stick with someone like ann and ryuji until new dps characters come out
Do you know what day tomorrow is?
>>572151097Akihiko isn't bad he's just skipable next to summer puppet.Yukari was always the best healer pre-twins, healers just aren't valued in content.
>>572172648Fate is a shitty franchise btwAlso is the tea day.
>>572172568Yeah I agree, just spend ur golden tickets, maybe try for A1 miku and get the free 5 star that u get from that, and just use whatever u can for now, u shouldn't have trouble completing most content for a bit at least until next 1 or 2 banners
>>572172737Summer Puppet is nothing next to Aigis.
>>572153109How do you know my exact pulls?I have A1 Ange, A1 Miku, Skipped A1 Riko, And A1 Turbo and No DPS beasides Makoto Yuki And Queen???
>>572171589shes kind of like a 5 turn navi, her rotations are either something like s1 - s2 - s1 - s3 or s2 - s1 -s2 -s3 and then refreshing them with virtual concert. missing out on some damage at the start of battle usually isnt a big deal because youre still setting up and buffing everyone
>>572172568Depends a little bit on the character? Haru and Messa are still solid for example. It’d be better if he joined when the P3 units were still running, but that boat has sailed so
>>572167776Sounds liked they'll do the same thing with them like theurgies for the p3 cast
>>572173016Would Haru be a wise choice with F.Rin around the corner with her rerun? If I'm not mistaken Rin would be better to go for
>>572173016In what world is Messa still solid?
>>572172895>>572173016its gonna be a couple months until we get summer puppet and berry so i get why it might be good to pull them anyway just to have fun if you like the characters and dont play for meta
>>572173320Oh yeah I agree don't play for meta if that's not what you enjoy, absolutely pull for who you like that's the best. I just assume when people ask what to pull they care a bit about the meta and want to know about it
what does this mean exactly?
>>572172937True. But the gap between puppet and Akihiko was assumed to be >Berry->Marian-S->Puppet-SAigis puppet is 11 agents.Presumed because they move stuff around at their leisure but the P3 cast is most likely locked in because of how they did the p3 event.
>>572172502Sadly there isnt
>yui puts salt on her watermelonGross!
>>572173602You see how it’s underlined? Click it and it will tell you.
>>572172502for some reason there isn't I don't know why they didn't give us a miku plushie and gachapon besides sega being very greedy.
>>572174113No it really doesn't
>>572173697Don't need to go so far, Luce 2 exists and powercrept Puppet.
>>572173602pretty sure its just a simple skill buff, like if a skill does 50% of your attack stat as damage the 50% will be increased by 15%
>>572174590So Miku's A1 provides that to everyone in the party?Or are her own skills buffed by 15%?Additive or multiplicative?
>>572174694i believe its multiplicative and just her skills, not the parties
>>572173187They’re both good, the thing with dps characters is elemental coverage matters a lot - there’s no fire or psy sweepers that replace either of them at this point so there’s value in each of them. They have different supports they want too - Rin wants Matoi and Howler, Haru wants Chord and SMoko.
What dps should i A1? /p5x/ has never failed me in the past.
>>572174694>>572175396I thought it was an effect on the party’s skills, like if you had an attack that did 200% damage now it does 230%
>>572175682Akihiko
>>572175682BUI Prism and Summer Puppet both have solid A1’s iirc
>>572175750in a way yes but what i mean is that it applies to her skills that then apply to the parties when she uses them, not directly to the party and her if that makes sense. again i could be wrong on this but her a2 specifically says that it increases the parties final damage unlike her a1 skill amplification that sounds like it only applies to her skills>>572175682ive heard summer puppet and pinky are some good choices but other like berry sound really good as well. idk if you can go wrong since a lot of future characters have good a1’s and you can just choose who you like best
>>572175914Akihiko’s A1 is only if you don’t have Yukari
>>572175682F.Rin has a good A1 but unsure if shes worth going for?, Berry A1 changes her order and think she was decent, S puppet has a solid one
>>572173602It's the final damage stat from tartarus.
>>572178964On Miku?What final damage does she deal?
>>572173602multiplier to all of miku's skill buff percentages.For example, if S2 gives 10% crit rate, with 15% skill amp it would be 11.5%. Also for comparison, lvl 5 mindscape core gives an increase equal to 10% skill amplification.
>>572181769homosexuality is a sin
Posting this for someone. This is the rotation I use. I am not saying this is the most optimal but this is the path of least manual song changing while still maintaining decent buffs. Lufel.net's rotation needs you to manually change the song after S3. Mine doesn't. I'm not going to touch the rotation that doesn't need pierce. Since we're all shitters here, I assume none of us is pierce capped and will always need more.Miku has 3 songs, you can manually pick the song but they will automatically cycle in this order. Heaven > Spring Storm > Playing with Fire > repeat.Heaven:S1 = PierceS2 = Heal (crap. you don't need this)Spring Storm:S1 = Damage (crap. why aren't you using the appropriate element?)S2 = Weakness DamagePlay with Fire:S1 = Crit DamageS2 = Crit RateYou obviously want Pierce for Heaven and Weakness Dmg for Spring Storm. So the deciding factor is whether you want Crit Damage or Crit Rate.If you want Crit Damage then you start with Heaven (it's already the default) and let the songs cycle automatically. The skill order is:- > S1 > S2 > S1 > S3 > - > S2 > S1Note that the during the turn you use her S3, Miku will cycle into Heaven before getting overwritten by her S3. That means once S3 ends she'll then cycle into Spring Storm, that's why I use S2 after her S3 ends.If you want Crit Rate then you start with Play with Fire (this is the only time you need to manually change songs) and let the songs cycle automatically. The skill order is:- > S2 > S1 > S2 > S3 > - > S1 > S2Note that the during the turn you use her S3, Miku will cycle into Play with Fire before getting overwritten by her S3. That means once S3 ends she'll then cycle into Heaven, that's why I use S1 after her S3 ends.
>>572186013tldr, just gonna stick to auto
>>572186427It's really not that complicated. The hard part is making sure the highlights lines up but I imagine most people will indeed just auto it. I personally just use Ange and let sweeper Twins auto everything by turn 2. Companio boss and SoS are the only times I even bother trying.
>akihiko and fire chink for SoS over 3 weeksgoodbye my ranking
Why does Miku have an AoA and cut in art? Navis never use those right?
>>572187480just run BUI and Anne
>lufel switched recommended sets for miku to integrity/labor from hope/laborsurely 6 out of 8 turns with 5% pierce outweighs the tiny 2-8% attack that would get lost in all the attack bonuses anyway, right? even if one of those turns lacking the 5% pierce is the S3 burst turn.
I am thinking
>>572188506Tomoko!
>>572187605all of them have AoA and cut in art
>>572188769Based
>>572188227Lufel is catered towards whales who will not need the pierce from having an A6 Matoi and shit.
>>572187605For the thieves den I imagine
>>572188775But why?
>>572175682Summer Miyu
>>572188227>not capping on the most important turns for damageRun the stupid horse card its better
A2 Chord or A1 Mont Swan for my selector?
>>572191734Chord or sit on the selector incase someone you skipped gets a good mindscape later
>>572191734Futaba (yes even with miku existence) > MokoS > Futaba A1 > MokoS A1 > Whatever you wanna want to get
>>572191939You do not fucking need to invest futaba at all if you have ange and miku. She is not BIS in any team anymore.
>>572192343Astrolabe
>>572191939Hm, this sounds familiar...
>>572191118The cut in art is also used in conversation. And why not? It's more character art which is never a bad thing to have
>>572192658>Still shilling mokoHmm...
>>572192658Already got A1R1 Chord and A0R0 MontI'm getting Motoha.R, Pinky, and mono wind. Who should i get?
>>572192936She’s better than you think.
>>572192894The combat cut in? I don't recall. But if I am then that is fair. I am not complaining about more art, just confused why the company known for skimping goes through the effort of making Miku assets that will never be used.
>>572192586you don't need her honestly. Most shitter fights you can do naviless (and it's not like you're left wanting with all the 4*/Phoebe navis as throw-in picks too). And then you have 2 very strong options for the red / purple nodes when you do need them
>>572192586You can clear fine without her.
>>572192586It's gotten too easy now, most nodes don't even need a navi. I had 3 twin uses when doing the last 4 nodes.
>>572193172A2 chord gives 30% damage boost when she's using her S3A1 Mont gives her 1 more stack each time she uses her S3 and ramp up her resonance damage by 8% more per stack (max 40%)Both of them have great core upgrade too. But Chord is kinda outdated until she gets her upgrade and the new Motoha
only 240 legendary tycoons on global? game's dead..
>use my A6R6 Ange with my A2 Door and score 1.3B>borrow A6R6 Miku with my A2 Door and score 2.0BAngebros... I think it's time to admit defeat.
>Try doing ghost rule hard>That clusterfuck of notes right at the beginningYeah nah fuck this. Not sure how autists can do this shit.
>>572202197just use the bot bwo
>>572199043Our Miku isn't even at full power yet...
>>572202991That's a way to do it i guess. Instead of wasting Mindscape core or directly buffing the numbers, they added the buffs as additional node in her mindscape to bridge it better with global/JP later
>>572199043A6 Miku is actually fucking broken. Like you think A6 Ange getting 2 da capo is good? Miku makes it look like child's play.
>>572203336What does A6 Miku do?
>>572203336I mean, it's a rewind for 1 character vs 2 extra turn for your entire team...>>572203490Miku A6 deals 80% of the damage your entire team does in her virtual stage state after it ends
>>572203578it was buffed to 100%.
>>572203490Doubles all damage dealt to enemies during Virtual Concert showstopper. So if your Makoto dealt 200000 damage, she adds 200000 almighty damage after it ends. Same gimmick as DAN Joker, but even better.
3 cycle bros... They can't keep oppressing us like this...
Nobody skipped Miku
>>572203945Some of the newer DPS like Motoha or S.Puppet can be played in either 2 or 3 cycle but why would you do that when most of the supports are 2 cyclerBerry is another case on her own like Messa. DoT char rotations are more complex
>>572203973I did, as well as playing the game altogether during her runtime. Wada can beat it. He has time supervising her addition but not to get the game optimized? Fuck that.
>>572186013thanks for doing the testing and typing all of this for us
>>572204343Show us your roster.
>>572205339I am not opening up the game for you to deflect like a buckbroken bitch, you worthless shill.
>>572205828>Anon actually backs up his word
>>572186013Thank you!
>>572205828I accept your concession.
So are they gonna do a 5* version of Okyann eventually?
>>572205828Based
>>572205828This kills the Tomoko turd
>>572205828>>572206007>Constantly screeches that no one skips Miku or her event>Immediately copes when someone actually proves itEnough was seen and heard for today.
>>572205828Holy based
>>572206008not unless they replace her VA
>>572206338Ah right forgot about that.
>>572205828You're just playing on phone/emulator you fraud.
Guys can we not do the retarded thing where we respond to ourselves in a really obvious mannerThx
Man I'm practically salivating on what they're gonna show in the emergency livestream
>>572207443>We won't do such bullshit again>*Does it anyway while still neglecting the game*
>>572207443Where was their biggest mistake? adding migu very half hazzardly with no event or story fan fare?putting a navi right next to ange? timing it along with the anniversary where people seemingly wrongly expexcted a hyper unit?if the twins dont drop during christmas do people expect a unit?did the twins kill migus potential?
global are a bunch of entitled fucks, china got jack shit for anniversary characters and never complained like a bunch of little bitches
>>572208214the chinese were beta testers LOL thanks for testing, i guess
>>572208214China doesn't had months of unpatched issues.China doesn't has a retarded approach to sped up schedules and the cut rewards.China didn't removed cognite shards and a 5* weapon from the Lufel plan.China didn't made the twins unusable in the Gate boss event during Akechi's patch.China in general isn't exhibiting as many demerits as Global does.
>>572207947I don't see CN complaining about anything. I guess to them it was just a regular collab.
>>572209087why are you so bad at English
>I don't see CN complaining about anythingMeanwhile the anniversary month is set to make less money than last month...
>>572151076>how Turbo is better than T. Windmy guess is that it was made with an unjailed A6 Turbo in mind, given that T.Wind is a limited>how F. Mont is better than VioletViolet outscores Mont on her own guild boss, so it's just a Montfag (Najox) coping with his brick
>>572208214Wasn't this the same general that laughed at the chinks sending a calling card because of Raphael?
>>572209470for CN Migu probably makes more sense due to DAN units. Also they don't have ange autists, migu slides in from fuuka.
>>572209493Why do you acknowledge anything but the argument made?
Other than Recollections, is there anything else that resets weekly on Sundays?
>>572211862Shopping limited items (Assam tea(s), Miyu universal gifts) Instant task completions from Kotone synergyWeekly Tycoon missions
>>572212243>Shopping limited items (Assam tea(s), Miyu universal gifts)I'll look those up>Instant task completions from Kotone synergyDon't think I've unlocked that yet but i'll check>Weekly Tycoon missionswhoops I haven't even played Tycoon yet time to get to itThanks Anon.
>>572209087China has 3 week updates, including filler ones (like DAN Mona), and 4 week like ValentinesI much rather have Global than having to deal with padding on the schedule
>>572208214>never complained like a bunch of little bitchesThey wish death on the director and for EoS in the comments of every billibilli post.
>>572212530The Assam tea is the priority, it can be crafted into a 2-3AP energy drink each week. Yumi's nighttime synergy unlocks a second one, ups how often you get 3 AP instead of 2, and eventually gives you a chance of making 2 drinks for 1 tea.The Miyu gifts everyone likes, but they are roughly the same fondness per yen ratio as any other gift, so it's not a mass priority to buy them out every week. I made the mistake of buying them out each week and now I've got a stack of 30 of both blue gifts that I'll probably never be able to give away.The Kotone task auto completes are DEEP in her synergy (17?) and are nice, but not a priority to unlock over Miyu's guys & gift improvements or Merope's exclusive personas giving more schema.The tycoon point exchange has some materials in it and resets each month. Auto'ing & alt tabbing the vs AI mode to complete the weekly and monthly quests that don't require doing ranked matches is enough to clear out the shop each month for free resources.
>>572207443I want to believe they're actually scared and will have to do better, but I'm half-expecting them to just say "please get excited" after showing everything we already know is in the pipeline (summer Marian/Puppet, Berry, Kotone for 30th anni and Elizabeth for 1.5 anni) as if it makes up for anything.
Okay fuck it I'll take the dipIs now a good time to start P5X?
>>572217351It's anniversary goods time, what do you think?
>>572149565>saving the gameShe made less money than Yukari.
riko
>>572215842Damn this game is so much more complicated than the last gacha I played (Arknights years ago).Thanks for the detailed information.
how do i use migu?
>>572149170When are we getting Shoki's boyfriend?
>>5722194361 2 2 3 1 2 or 1 2 1 3 1 2 or 1 2 2 1 3 2 or 1 2 1 1 3 2
>>572219647thanks.
this is the only migu song i know.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mco3UX9SqDA
>>572217351yeah, if you like miku and you have some time you can try rerolling for her or just pull her normally because shes a top tier character
I felt like a third worlder bringing 4* Motoha into the SoS boss
>>572218643everyones saying this
>>572221698omg it riko
>>572217351Lots of anniversary awards, new characters coming out are mostly bangers, and enough side content to play when story progression is locked by character/account level. A great time to give it a shot.
>>572218424this but Tomoko
Day 4 of sitting out an underwhelming collab until it's done. I have reached the endgame with Toshiro and Erina, that guy is arguably one of my most favorite Persona characters period. Unique playstyle even within this game, feels concise with his portrayal and it makes fun to form a squad to shred bosses apart.If he on some whim gets added to P5X I wouldn't be shocked if he and Erina get the 5* Shoki/Shun treatment.
>>572230227
quickest way to do this? I haven't fished before
>>572234261idk if it has any tricks other than just do the master pond as soon as you unlock it, in my case with fishing if the fish doesnt bite within about 5 seconds it probably wont for a while if ever and i just recast in a different spot
>>572234503but to get the master pond I need to be 7 so then the mission is already overalso on pc do you mash A and D or just hold them? Neither seem to move the needle a lot
>>572234626oh sorry, didnt realize that since its been a while since ive done some fishing. i play on mobile so i dont know sorry but i hold the direction to keep it steady, might be different on pc
>>572234261As a certified Bass Master, there's really no quick way. Just catch most of the fish possible and quit when there's a few stubborn ones left to save time. Switch to the strongest pond accessible. You'll eventually recognize the fish by their shadows ,the ones that aren't bugged, that is, and can focus on catching the larger species while ignoring the small fry.
>>572234626You need to mash, it's dogshit. Do it from your phone it's a lot easier.
What personas am i looking to focus on for Wonder? I think i've neglected it for a long time, i would just slap Dominion and healer on him.
>>572236129dionysus is a top priority, try and max him out too. some other good ones are janosik with rakunda, surt with his marakunda and some character specific personas if you have them like alice for joker, zaou gongen for makoto yuki and others
The predator smelled two ripe teenage boys and immediately showed up out of nowhere
>>572236129https://lufel.net/en/persona/
>>572237557Show some respect to Wonder's wife.
>>572238391Not in my timeline
>>572236547>>572237901Thanks guys
nevermind, this game is shit. i'll stick with HSR
>>572239942>StarfailBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>572239942I can't even tell HSR designs between each other. Everyone is the samefaced anime character with different overdesigned outfit.
>>572241556ironic of you to say that in a P5X general
>>572241751I dont like seeing Alice dance on other characters
I need 3rd turn based gacha...That said, it feels like the release of big names for gacha games has slowed down quite heavily. I wonder what happened
>>572237557She's not gonna do anything to them though.
>>572239942Fucking based.
>>572237557DON'T DO IT WONDER
>>572242226I have a feeling we’re going to see mobile game production - and mobile’s share of the market - ramp up in response to the grotesque inflation in the price of PC/console components.
>>572243097Do you think they’ll tone her down when it comes to global?
>>572243316Maybe, so far, the only story they've outright censored and changed is the Neko one
>>572243316They didn't censor the NTR undertones with Kayo, Shimotsuna's arc, or Yumi's horniness for Wonder so probably not.
>>572243548>the Neko oneWhat was changed there?
>>572243591
>>572243707It's just the same cat obsessed grandpa and his granddaughter story but in the CN version, Neko is kinda unhinged. They're part of cat worshipping cult. In global she's way more normal who just go "yeah, i love cats and my grandpa is kinda weird"
how come there are no p1 or p2 characters in this game
>>572244720No models to reuse. They only use existing assets 75% of the time
>>572234261Fish during rain. All you can do to get slightly fatter fish and more exp.
>>572243548They also just straight up cut him out from global altogether
>>572243591>the NTR undertones with KayoElaborate.
>>572245016Legendary fishes also only spawns during the rain, now?
>>572245067Speaking of we also never got her for some reason
>>572245085Never heard that one but it's implied form the earlier files leak, that Tomiyama Kayo was going to be a palace ruler or something like that. it's implied that her husband is actually deadBut that's all been scrapped away. And her VA passed away so they can't do more with her
>>572241751P5X outfits are thematics and easy to distinguish between them. Meanwhile Starfail has like 30 Xichuen Ching Chong looking the same. I swear wuxia cancer is so shit lmao
>>572245403grimeven the worst designs like mont are heads above slop like this
>>572245067
>>572245067I mean from what I remember, he was portrayed as a bumbling American tourist in Japan right? Perhaps they thought global would be offended.
>>572245403I honestly thought four girls were the same character.
I always thought Berry was from Kokatsu but she's from different school? How does she even became Wonder's stalker?
>>572244720The whispers in my head tells me it's because 1 and 2 got wiped out of existence thanks to Xilbalba shenanigans, and that even crossing timelines won't bring them back without disastrous consequences. 2EP characters are being locked up in Mitsuru's sex dunge- I mean Shadow Ops headquarters, never to see the light of day.
>>572245597>Cutting characters altogether in GlobalFor fucks sake
>>572245307>ruineryeah I'd both edge and ruin for her
>>572245985>became Wonder's stalkerThanks, spoiler.
>>572246407It's not that secretive, she already starts as one from the beginning
>>572245990I mean it’s characters that appear in one mission, so not a huge deal
WANDAH :DDDDD
MIGU :DDDDD
>>572245985Dunno but her persona is one of the best looking amongst the cast
>>572247018>this designHoyoslop and Fateshit could never.
>>572247018they made thanatos woke…
>>572247150They’ll just steal P5X designs instead
>>572247018Speaking about persona, it's kinda lame how all the main cast's *5 got their persona design changed for better except Mandrin, who just turns gold
>>572247414Still pioneer Mandrin design goes hard.
>>572247414It does have differences if you look close, but yeah nothing major
>>572243548Orange tabby got most of his quest cut too
>>572247414>>572247640His base form color scheme is better. But they're supposed to mimic the user's *5 form outfit, i understand. Like Awilda mimic's Motoha *5's armor
>>572247884>cut scenes of one of the most popular charactersWhy do they always make the dumbest decisions?
I have 100k gems what's a good pull plan?
>>572245363I've never heard of this before but that sounds pretty interesting. Are there more scrapped/early elements in the files like that? I'm a sucker for that type of find.
>>572245363that would have been kino.
>>572248642Miku, Summer Marian, Onions/Luce, Radiant Closer
>>572248024Yeah, now i notice all the P5X original chars personas shares their character's color palettesExcept Janosik for some reason? Is it White Mask Wonder's foreshadowing?
>>572249041Thank you anon.
>>572248642https://lufel.net/en/pull-calc/As for me, I'm getting S.Marian, then skips everyone until Fuuka. The problem is i want all the characters after Fuuka, it's not looking too good for my stashThere's P5D Ann after Miku in CN too, i want her for mono fire, this is bad...
am i crazy saying that fuukas much less of a priority pull with miku out? with only 2 bosses and miku being good with the dancing characters, the chances of the 2 sos/guild bosses being best to be done with them is probably pretty low and youll likely have a dancing dps team and a non dancing one with ange whos on par or in some cases better than fuuka. ange might be better than fuuka for most people anyway because shes a lot simpler and doesnt change as much depending on what characters you have and how duoed out they and fuuka are
You guys pretend Manaka, Mio, and Mayumi don't all look like sisters lmao. You're in no position to say other games have sameface syndrome.
>>572250427I'm talking about the playable characters with their thieves outfits. In Hoyoshit gachas they all look the same.
>>572249812>>572250258Fuuka wants A1 if possible too. She stills function at A0 but rather inflexible
>>572250427>black hair means they’re relatedLol
does migu want A1?
>>572250427>ManakaWhat?
>>572250940its really good but not as needed as twins a1
>>572250816In 6 cycle contentA0 Fuuka has 2 swapsA1 Fuuka has 3 swapsA0 Fuuka can only uses her swap in fixed turns (turn 2 & 6) or else she overcaps and wastes her stacks. Still very much usable but A1 is quite the big QoL for her
>>572250765My main issue are how overdesign are their outfits since wuxia-style costumes are pretty bad in my opinion.
Miku lostTomoko lost
I love riddle.
>>572251176Thanks to migu Fuuka will be buffed as hell just to be relevant.
Who will you be building your custom Revelation cards for?
Tomoko won
>>572252295minami, ive heard shes maybe kinda easy to build but i like her so ill do it anyway
>>572252295Let's see...I already got the set for Minami ready. It's easy building her so it's kinda a waste to use the event for herChange set, for Motoha 2 maybe, but she's still too far away or Labor again maybe
>>572251624>Ange zero buffs despite migu>fuuka buffs because migui hate sega.
>>572252978Ange core upgrade soon
>>572245363>dead husband so she latches on to wonderoh, what could have been....
>>572248642atleast A1 miku, atleast A0R0 S minami maybe A1, Atleast a0r0 Luce/Onions cause you get the other for free, the rest idk
>>572252528Based
they forget to add miku to tartarus
>>572252528who
How often does they do custom revelation card event again? Like, every 2 months?
>>572254216migu would actually be good in tartarus right? is she the navi who benefits most from long turn fights?
>>572252295Already trying to get ahead with Summer Minami so her.
Our general is much faster after migu release. We are reaching top 50 this time /p5x/bros!
>>572254746Sounds about right. They should start doing custom space card events soon, I distinctly remember the Berry patch having one.
>>572255412Can't wait for my Ken, Riddle and Twins party...
>>572254820That, and her a6 does almighty damage after the skill 3
2nd palace has a pretty annoying mechanic but they really nailed the aesthetics
>>572255623Hang pedophilesBehead pedophilesBurn pedophiles
i like both ange and miku
>If you play EXTREMELY artificial, you can abuse Miku to get 2 turn 3 big nukes into the 2 turn big damage phase in guild battleIt's giga artificial, but the cool thing is, if you transition the enemy to the bigger score phase during her special song being active, it doesn't consider the next turn to be when it transitions, but the next REAL turn. Like normally it works like this: A B C D is your chars, if A kills, then B C D A is going to get a turn before the boss counts down 1 turn, repeat this once more and battle ends.When you activate miku on A however, this and the following 7 actions taken by your chars aren't real turns. As such if you transition to the next phase at any time during this, you get the normal A B C D order times 2 for the boss, even if for example B deals the damage which leads to the boss entering the extra point phase.Why is this important? Because fucking Kasumi SUCKS DICK with her off turn attacks. That's all. Getting 4 ults into the "2 turn extra point" phase is kinda funny though.
>>572256049trvke
>>572256513>Responding to yourself
a6r6 miku is scoring rougnly 33% more compared to a6r6 ange. it's honestly crazy how big a powercreep it is.
>>572255986Yeah, I love the crimson sky there. So sad after you enter the headquarters you don't see it again until the boss battle.
>>572256929it's really weird they did this to global.
>>572256929>>572257056Yeah i'll just wait for the next powercrept Navi. Not gonna compromise my standards and whale for vocaloid trash
>>572257056yup and chinks get a significantly stronger version too. they have to really do something for fuuka to make people roll for her on global. especially since fuuka is more expensive due to needing a whole new character for her gimmick. imo they should stop with synch patches and just concentrate on catching up to china. the miku patch is essentially 3 weeks of no content.
>>572255412Just goes to show how many new players Migu brought in, best anniversary ever!
tomocuck is a pathetic retard
>>572243097SEE, she's only 29!>>572243316I'll be pissed if they do but as long the translators aren't "localizers" I can hope not.>>572243591>Yumi's horniness for WonderYeah I don't like her but they kept that very intact. Bitch be thirsty.
>>572245403It's always annoying to see this retarded tribalism.>>572245746Sure you fuckin did, disingenuous fuck. They look as "same" as Persona's art style between different girls. Aren't Ann Motoha Yukari and Yumi the same girl?!No, they clearly aren't.
>>572256929i've seen nobodies in my guild suddenly break 1 billion cause of miku when they usually score around 500m.
im skipping miku oo ee oo sorrygetting filtered by the last 3 songs on hard, damn Im bad at this minigame
>Starfail troon coping hereBack to your shithole, hoyoslop subhuman.
>>572262071>muh tribalism>you NEED to HATE other games, goy!Nah.
>>572260245>>572262351Ann, Motoha and Yumi have completely different thief outfits from each, pretty much you can tell from far which one is which. Meanwhile Hoyoshit is just the same overdesigned outfits over and over again from their wuxia retarded delusions. Also those retarded chinl names are really grating go the ears.
>>572262821>post a screen of completely different looking characters>SEE THEY LOOK THE SAMEBruh.Your bait doesn't even work, I like both games. I'm not gonna run over and invade a general for you or cry to some discordfags to raid here, which is likely your intent.
>>572262821>BING BONG>XIXUXIXUANXI>QU LUAN BING XUANHoly shit, I hate chinese names so much.
>>572263040All characters are literal carbon copies from other hoyo games, I can't distinguish them from any normalfag anime characters design. Literally zero appeal except for bugmen like you. Meanwbile P5X has the thief concept going for it, their outfits plus persona designs are lightyears ahead from this shit.
>>572263460Bruh tosses this much bait and he isn't even rank 7 at the fishing pond yet.
>>572263628>baitWhatever you say, Chang.
>>572263737>he says in a general about a chink gacha
It's T(ea) Day!
>>572263915The gacha may be made by bugs, but I can tell there's Atlus soul inside it just looking at the persona designs. The same can't be said about Hoyo soulless husk.
>>572264193>keeps trying to bait and has nonsensical meltdowns for no reasonDid yall give up on the Miku shitposting so soon?
>>572264162Thanks Tomoko!
https://x.com/p5xofficialwest/status/2071292545527615888
>>572264162I love my wife Tomoko!
>>572268082Based
>>572262040Post your account roster.
>There were Anons ITT saying that Miku's A6 wasn't good because it was almighty damage and thus not applicable to the 3x multiplierYou can tell who actually plays this game and who just rolls for Ange or whoever is "meta".
>>572268791>>There were Anons ITT saying that Miku's A6 wasn't good because it was almighty damage and thus not applicable to the 3x multiplierIt doesn't matter since the almighty is 100% your damage during the virtual shit mode, doubling your score.
>>572268791>>572269106From a purely score perspective, let's say it was 1M Fire dmg with a bonus for 3M score, but then her A6's damage would be 1M for only 1M score.That's still score, it just isn't as big score.All number go up is better.
>>572269582I think it would be pretty much broken as hell, that's why the final damage is almighty. Whales would hit the damage cap without a single cell brain working on the fight and yes, even whales still need to work their asses to hit maximum score.
>>572268609it was a joke but here you go bro
>>572270132The 3x is a global exclusive "feature" to begin with as far as I know...
>>572270180Invest in your Onions, cat and Riko/Wind as navigator. Even better if you pulled Leon or Shoki, they're fine supports.
>>572269106Yes that's the point. Anons didn't even know how almighty works.
>>572270440onions? who is that. are you trolling me
>>572271230You trolled yourself newfaggot
>>572271230please don't pretend to be me.
>>572271519excuse me?
>>572271230
>>572149170So im not sure whats going onIs there some kind of quests related to the anniversary or this Besa quest, apart from Login and stamina?
>>572271812Not really.Short quests, unlock cake, spend stam on boss fight for shop."Anniversary" elements very weak, rewards good.
>>572271812Yeah! The quest is learn to use Miku by getting as high of a score as you can in SOS and NG! Thank you for your understanding.
She should've been one of the real PTs
i think the 3x multiplier is a good idea. it encourages having multiple teams ready instead of relying on a single composition. just look at the mainline games, it essentially boils down to yoshitsune spamming or an almighty team in case you can't use physical.
>>572275427No actuallyShiho 2 doesn’t belong any more than Shiho 1 or Shiho 3
>>572275427She honestly embodies the theme of “reclaiming desire” more than any other character so why not
>>572280254Honestly Shun is the only one who doesn't really fit the theme.
>>572278995If it wasnt x3 on top of seasonal modifiers on top of boss mechanics favoring their paired dps it might have been tolerable. As it is it just feels like shit.
hat
>>572280371that's because shun's desire for ramen is limitless.
>>572280971It sucks because Shun has potential of being a good character. He's relatively well adjusted with a bit of a streak against authority and conformance, but not retarded like Ryuji's "fuck adults!". But the writers clearly don't know what to do with him so he's become le ramen guy. Even during his palace arc his motivation was less about his own desire (he already loves cooking ramen) and more about saving pops.
why are people making fun of people that pulled ange? just use both miku and ange.
>>572283202In a couple months Fuuka shows up and takes Anges spot since we never get 3 boss mode.
>>572283202Miku mostly powercreeps Ange so you tend to run Miku+Fuuka for your teams UNLESS you don't have any DPS that works with Fuuka. Which could be possible, but it does essentially mean you aren't rolling for anyone after SPuppet.
>>572282893>gives different rotations for CR, CD, Weakness and Pierce>doesn't say when you want which
skipping ugly fukka
Whens the naked dogeza stream?
>>572283202opportunity cost ange pulls are basically wasted
>>572280254Tomoko fit it pretty well desu, I know the first story arc was a mess but everything about interactions with her made it seem like she'd be a PT.>Everyone else is lazy and apathetic and will just watch a girl attempt suicide then go on about their day because she didn't do a flip>Tomoko is the ONLY person in a crowd with enough initiative to try to save Motoha
>>572285465I'd prefer a naked Dogenzaka stream
>>572285109you know you can also use your brain right?
>>572285109It’s entirely dependant on what your characters and their specific builds are, as well as the enemies you’re playing againstYou can’t give general advice
>>572282893Is Najox just retarded?
>>572285109it's retarded you only need to pick crit rate or crit damage since those rotations already have pierce and element weakness.
>>572286929If I had a brain I wouldn't need that reddit infographic in the first place
>>572294449So cute…
>>572294449
>>572285763Nah tomoko has no desires. Manaka is a much better fit. There is a reason why she became the first anniversary character and Tomoko is forgotten.
>>572301423>Tomoko has no desiresWonder exists though
>>572299607Best doggirl
>>572252295Puppet probably, since her cards are paired with love. Means I only have to get 2 good cards with selectors.
EoS announcement soon
runa sucks dog cock
regretting my decision to go for A2 migu bros...
said no one ever
>extra crit rate/crit dmg buff, dmg buff, heal and 8% final amp but only during virtual concertNot worth a potential 110 rolls as a F2Pleb, especially with our gimped global buffs.
Does summer marian need her weapon or A1
>>572301423are you ok, anon? the anniversary character is miku.
>>572294449Based
>>572309067Both are big boosts(more so A1) but not "needed". Also, CN received a weapon selector up to minami for lunar new year and a character selector up to blitz for 2nd anniversary, so you can get them for "free"(eventually).
what do we expect from the 8 min vid coming later
>>572308249Consider BUI, who gets 7 (minimum) extra attacks during that time, benefits greatly from those boosts, and doesn’t really work super well with either Futaba or AngeMiku is just another BUI buff in the long line of BUi buffs
>>572309641>weapon selector up to minamiBase ie basically Standard, or Summer ie everyone so far? (excluding Miku and Twins due to global order shenanigans)
Hello Phantom Thieves,After the reaction to our choice for the anniversary unit, it has become clear we are unable to meet your expectations for the game. We are announcing the end of the Global servers effective July 15th, 2026. We will be closing the Chinese and Korean servers as well, on July 31st. We will be releasing our vision for the completed narrative simultaneously across all languages, please stay tuned for that.We apologize for failing to meet your expectations. We thank you for your support this past year. We hope you are excited for the upcoming release of Persona 4 Revival, and Persona 6.
>>572309783Drama's done, you can go on back now.
>>572309737Nikke collab news
>>572309774summer
>>572309774Up to and including summer minami's weapon.
>>572309737Apologies for Miku, probably another character selector up to Mont Frost alongside maybe a weapon selector up to her. Will end with them teasing FeMC and Elizabeth that we know are coming later this year.
>>572309737The usual "we'll do better" speech. But in all seriousness, that alome might piss off the Japanese even further if they don't mention the shitty state the game is in as well as the timing.
They have nothing to apologize forDumb autists made up a fake problem, and it’s sad that said autists have to be appeased
>>572312697OR think of it this wayAutists blew up a fake problemGame issued a lazy do-nothing change-nothing fake response
Chord, Kotone, or Motoha? I'm A0 on all of them.
>>572309737Free A6R6 Migu so everyone's on the same level for her.
>>572312697How the hell do you suck off Sega so much off? Global is a shitty hand-me-down version of the Chinese version that has repeatedly demonstrated to not have the players interest in mind. How the hell are glitches even that much of a problem with every update? It's a port into Global.
>>572313130kira
>>572313514I don't have him and don't really want him.
>>572313658Well he's meta so you're an idiot.
>>572312697>50 jewels have been sent to your inbox for this sign of support
>>572313505>Global is a shitty hand-me-down version of the Chinese version that has repeatedly demonstrated to not have the players interest in mind.And you think this is going to change?
>>572310502Nikke just had a livestream for its bikini tits and ass festival yesterday that looks 50x better than the crappy ass empty beach event we got. Persona collab news will come after their summer events starts to wrap up
>drama tourists are doing the "you need more gibs, they're shafting you, blah blah blah" slop againNiggas, it didn't even work a year ago.
>>572313823He is the farthest thing from meta
>>572314312Apparently it worked now you useless cuck of a fanboy
>>572315431Yeah game died and EOSd before the 1st Anniversary.
>>572245597Persona is made with Japan in mind. Literally their own words. They're just lazy dipshits.
>>572315971Why does it take 1+ year for it to enter japan then...
>>572315583she does this if you a6 her btw
Everyone still got their artisan mod form the global exclusive Lufel's plan, right?You can trade 20 salamander coin for either limited weapon *5 weapon (Only for those who got rerunned) or 1 artisan mod later
>>572316385They'll also add 5 salamander coin in BP starting summer, right? So you can use 3 artisan mod + 3 random *5 weapon to R6 1 weapon of your choosing, right?
>>572316385salamander coins are so fucking lame, either drastically pump up the rate you get them or make them work for any weapon, I forget I have these fucking things most of the time
>>572315431What worked? What are we getting? Huh?
>>572316060My bad,. They are lazy and incompetent dipshits.
Miku's design is hot. Why do you gays not like it?
>>572317319Not enough skin showing
>>572317319looks like a mime in a skirt.
>>5723173194 tits; looks fucking retarded.
>>572316385I'm stuck on the fishing shit.
>>572317319She doesnt look like the original Miku. It aint the same, not even talking about her trash P4D outfit
>>572318545it's fucking boring but I did it over a couple daysdoing it in one sitting is horrid
>>572310769Ooh, i didn't know about this. Thanks. I guess i'll skip her weapon. It'll feel bad playing her with *4 weapon, but i guess it's better than having nothing to choose in the selector later, all my chars already have their *5 weapon
Anyone willing to explain to why the Twins at A1 is supposed to be really strong? I have them and their weapon, but haven't really finished building them.
>>572319116free almighty attack ever other turn
>>572319116A0 Twins have to use their S3 manually A1 twins uses their S3 automaticallyIn short, they goes from 3 turn character into 2 turn character. And their S3 is very important
>>572319116They perform if not *the best* then highly competently in 5/6 roles (they’re not great saboteurs), deal every kind of damage, deal good damage even when not performing a damage role (which means you’re giving up much less if you use them as a sustain), can be slotted into literally any team and perform well, do 10 attacks when other units do 6, can crit on their specials (of which they get 2 out of 4), and they’re cute lolis in hot uniforms
>>572319116automatic SEISAI NO JIKAN DA
>>572319116It's like thisA0 twins is S1-S2-S3-S1-S2-S3A1 twins is S1-S2 + (Auto S3) -S1-S2 + (Auto S3) -S1-S2 + (Auto S3)As you can see, A0 twins takes too long
>>572319116>Anyone willing to explain to why the Twins at A1 is supposed to be really strong?At A0, Twins does S1 S2 S3 over 3 turnsAt A1, Twins does S1 S2 then a free S3 every 2 turnsMost of Twins' effects also have a 2 turn durationThis both basically doubles their damage and takes their effect uptime from 66 to 100%You can think of A1 as roughly tripling their value, that's how extreme the difference is.
all out attack is so fucking useless is not even funny, they need to make a character or persona that can increase the damage or something
>>572320275You're in luck. Just wait for 1 year
>>572319116*replies with the same thing in slightly different words*
>>572320275>all out attack is so fucking useless is not even funny, they need to make a character or persona that can increase the damage or somethingI have good news for you>>572320369Every awareness rank of him is a global AOA base damage buffI am unironically going to A6 him
>one of the candle toppers has sperm shooting out of your cakeWhat did the devs mean by this.
>>572320485It's still very minor though, at A6, it's still only bonus 60k AoA damage. AoA still only becomes relevant in Starlight characters group because it's the main gimmick their kit supports which is understandable
>>572320971No, you misread.A lot.>After obtaining Starlight Ren, allies' All-Out Attack will deal an additional 10000/20000/40000 fixed damage, for each of Ren's Awareness level, increase this damage by 15000/30000/60000 (effect changes at Lv. 1/50/70, respectively). Increase this fixed damage by 30% for each foe that decreases from 3 (takes effect even when Ren is not in battle).The important part is "for each" on that 60,000.It's 400,000 at A6, scaling inversely against isolated targets as well.
SoP3 - TheurgyP5D - All Out AttackWhat will be P4's main gimmick?
>>572320971>>572321473Also AOAs aren't exclusive to P5DBui-Prism's gimmick is AOA damage which others have said is confirmed buffed by JokerSo Bui and Joker can both do it even without Downable enemiesKatayama, and likely the occasional future character, can also farm Downs as possible.
>>572321473They'll show it in the actual P4R game first
For the first time ever I have completed the Astrolabe early instead of procrastinating until the day before.That is all.
>>572321473Prime time.
>>572321356>>After obtaining Starlight Ren, allies' All-Out Attack will deal an additional 10000/20000/40000 fixed damageWhat does this mean? Why are there 3 numbers?
>>572321473Basically an all out attack generated from hitting weaknesses and crits. So like an even more braindead theurgy.>>572167776
>>572323070BroLook at literally any character in the game and read their abilitiesI’m sorry but you’re actually just being stupid at this moment
>>572323070Did you try reading>>572321356>(effect changes at Lv. 1/50/70, respectively)Like I even made sure to include it and didn't edit anything since I didn't want confusion.
>>572324260>>572324350If you don't know you don't have to reply.
>>572323070The effects are enhanced when it the character reaches certain level, which is lv 1 / lv 50 / lv 70
>>572324502Is that a new bait, antimokoschizo?There's no way someone could be so dumb as to be given the answer and then say this, not organically.
>>572324715Goodness, she’s perfect.
>>572324715>antimokoschizoCompletely out of nowhere lmao
>>572325175if I take the hat off will you die?
You have a little over two hours left to exchange any remaining anniversary tickets ,btw.
age they still trying to make global reach CN parity?
>>572325675kinda, lets see what we'll get from the 8 min apology vid later on
>>572324682Danke
Lol I completely forgot to upgrade Mona’s event weapon up until nowThe shards have just been sitting in my inventory for months and months
I've been playing Tartarus for fun with no rewards (mid difficulty), I just find it fun to fuck around with high awareness thieves
>>572326389When is it gonna happen anyway? Announcing it asap as soon as they also start streaming it?
Who should you use the anniversary selector on?Im torn between summer tomoko and frostgale personally
>>572331047if you already have healers, then mont.
>>572331047Mont.
>>572331047Go for Kotone.
>>572331370Nta why would you need healers?
>>572331632for tasks.
migu buff :DDDD
We’re suppose to get that 8 minute video today right?
>>572332141
>>572332141The update is so shit it can't even get Miku right.
>>572332141YIPPIIEEE BUGGY UPDATE FAILS TO SHILL MIGU FROM THE GETGO
>>572332141i guess her weapon didn't sell enough lol. not that i'd say no to buffs but they're really just rubbing salt on ange's wounds.
>>572332141>Flopped so incredibly hard her weapon gets an emergency buff not even a week later.
>>572331632Very often the competitive modes have a modifier that heavily incentivizes the use of a healer / guardian, and you’d generally score worse without one. They also can just make some that are very very difficult to survive using just wonder as sustain.Your 4* /standard 5* options are also quite bad. Lufel / Yuki will not be good enough, and Shun is relatively bad though usable if you’re completely new. Mona is pretty dogshit too. Minami is -okay- but pretty bare bones and you’d generally only want to use her with S.Closer. And that sorta brings up another thing - most sustain units are actually support/buffers in disguise as well. S.Moko pairs with Haru, Cherish pairs with Yusuke, Yukari pairs with P3 units etc. and makes them a lot better.
>>572332141Oh sweet a bonus 27.1% crit damageIt’s another BUI buffI do not need reload units. I can even skip Fuuka now
>>572332141i don't have migu's weapon
>>572332841smoko also helps kira. smoko also attacks frequently meaning she can apply stacking debuffs via revelations. she's the 3rd best healer after twins and yukari. cherish is good but since he can only shield every other turn and his taunt is not guranteed, sometimes that might no be enough.also most new players, f2p players, or even light spenders simply do not have the dps to burn through bosses before they need a healer. even wonder with sandalphon can only do so much.
so uh, has anybody else noticed that when new years rin uses her sword move the cake shows up?
>>572333191Cherish has much better sustain than smoko, even with the big shield being only every 2 turns. He massively buffs your teams’s survivability, better than any other unit in the game right now. The trade-off is in terms of damage, which he just doesn’t contribute much to, though he does have some decent buff effects for the team even so. I’m also not talking about story bosses (who you can beat with 4* units). In general I’m referring to SOS / Nightmare
>>572333392Webm of it please?
>>572332141So what's the "unintended behavior"?
>>572333392Doesn’t happen to me Literally works fine on my machine
>>572334268That's a nice rephrasing of "We forgot to include it" or "We want to pass off an buff after not making money with her"
How about we buff Riddle so she's not an absolute fucking sham of a 5*?
>>572334547Wait for CNY Riddle
>>572333782i mean in the sense that some bosses deal damage that bypasses shields. it's very rare, and usually only during phase changes. generally cherish is overkill just like marian.
>>572334268not enough people rolled for her weapon.
>>572334268In longer fights, she has her 6 Wonder Action cooldown on her S3, meaning she cannot remove her Tracks for a while.While it doesn't cause problem for her normal buffs, her weapon buff gets locked because she doesn't gain new Tracks... Probably?
Why do people keep pretending they skipped Miki?
>>572336084>Not posting your own Miku
>>572335432Yes, only s3 allows her to get tracks again. So considering it has quite a cooldown...
>>572332141Slurpers are so funny when they keep defending this update and they just keep fucking things up more and more.
>anniversary gem reward is popping up againShame you can't actually claim it again, shitshow would be funny.
>>572337539Ten bucks they're somehow gonna fuck up the remaining time period of the anni as well after the collab runtime is done. They addressed this but not shit like the Akihabara arcade sending phones and pcs into hell.
>>572335432Just checked against the lvl 30 boss, and this is correct. The weapon crit buff fully falls off the turn before showstopper refreshes. But this "can't gain tracks when you already have tracks" issue also affects her "set list" passive, which falls off even faster due to stacks(the new weapon "buff" will have the same problem presumably). You'd think they'd just fix it and allow same track refreshing(like they already do with the track buffs themselves) instead of trying to bandaid with weapon changes/buffs.
I will wait for this gacha to be reworked like Brave exvious or Another Eden
Where's the 8 minute video? It's the 29th evening in Japan already
>>572334547Only popular characters get buffs and alts
>>572340892They said during the week of the 29th, they're cheesing their way around to get more time ready.
