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Thanquol soon, friends!
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>>572158396
if they can do valkyria chronicles they can do ww1/ww2 btw
hell if they can do 40k they can do ww1/ww2, but question is what the fantasy release will be
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picrel is what made me realize why having overlapping walls is very important
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>>572158354
Wait until page 9 next time brah
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>>572158712
nta but not a fan of that kind of autism in regards to making new breads.
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>>572158914
It's just proper etiquette and schools the general to not spam the catalogue unlike gachanigger generals.
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>>572158712
>>572158914
also nta but i genuinely don't even know what pages are, just know that 750+ = time to make a thread
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are there any less intelligent players in the world than Orc players?
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>>572159179
Stop being a submissive cuck
Total War: Genshin soon
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nan gau top quality pussy
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more news when
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>>572160167
tuesday
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>>572159179
i could see that if this place had half as much activity as gacha threads do but most of the time we need the "undead general" poster to stop twg from sliding off page 10 before bump limit
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>>572160167
TWW livestream tuesday 30th.
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>>572158159
I own these on steam and genuinely have no idea from when
1 too
guess I should give them a shot, emulate the 2 ones on psp
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>>572164048
I've only played 1, and enjoyed it greatly. I've heard 2 and 3 aren't as good and changed some things from 1, but 4 is apparently a return to form so to say and regarded similar to 1.
I do agree a TW Valkyria Chronicles would work fantastically.
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Why are you guys annoyed at the delay? It's called the END times
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This is not going to play out like this nigga thinks it is....
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How do we convince Nintendo and Game Freak to let us have Total War: Pokemon?
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>>572169335
Oh yeah...we got em.
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>>572166946
>Why are you guys annoyed at the delay? It's called the END times
We are all ready for Age of Sigmar.
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>>572170085
Little Grom detected. May he secure massive amounts of damage value for Ursun!
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these guys seem nice
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>>572095560
Mostly it depends on the situation of history of the site and the battles.
For example, I do 1812 and we have a local siege site where we have the Brits win the battle on Saturday while we (US) win on Sunday. The officers try to set up the field according to attendance and try to act according to the histroical battles (there was a failed US sortie to take the guns) but this year it was kinda just a slugfest
Knowing we were supposed to lose, our officers put us in a disadvantaged position and we were told to take hits, and so we did. I had an event once where we lost 8 guys to a single cannon blast, it was a fun bit that the audience enjoyed.
It helps when our flintlocks have issues, prompting a death to fix back in camp, wheras Civil War percussion caps have much less issues with firing. I have done an ACW event where our blocks exchanged fire for 5 minutes at 30m with no losses, and so I opted to take a hit just to make the field more interesting. It's about playing fair and not having an ego for anything.
Federal Kevlar is a real bit, but so is the Stonewall Brigade (units taking no hits despite marching straight into several volleys)
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IT'S UP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVu4SYt00w
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>>572170198
I will start a class action lawsuit to get all out money back for the first three games and all its dlc if they pull that shit.
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>>572171995
what a fucking loser this guy is
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>>572171995
This has been posted two times already and it's still shit.
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>>572166946
END times not WAIT times
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IT'S UP!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP3Ad_DyBm8&pp=ygUJbWFqb3JraWxs
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>TWtubers are moving on to darktide
It's completely over
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>>572172503
as obnoxious as majorkill is, he's 1000x more watchable than volound
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>>572172915
>>572172157
>>572172179
seething redditors
Volound fucking WON!
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>>572173265
>won
yeah, the gay retard contest
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>>572173265
CA is not dead and 40k was announced, he won nothing but the most faggoty Scot award for the tenth year running.
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>>572173265
Volorunt shit his pants when Sòytek threatened him He even reported Sòytek to the police. Post this image in the Voloruntcord, and he will report you too.
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>>572173830
>Volorunt shit his pants when Sòytek threatened him He even reported Sòytek to the police

https://youtu.be/CEqfZGiyyz8?t=2930
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>>572174221
HOLY FUCKING BASED
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>>572174221
lol he's so mad
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update when
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>>572158354
Reminder to vote here: https://survey.sega.co.uk/en/med3-factions?g2gid=43175
But also vote here (to see twg's choices): https://strawpoll.com/PbZqbX3aNyN
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>>572176761
croatbros...
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>>572174221
Total sotek victory
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>>572176761
>HRE is 1 faction
???
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>>572176761
Who the FUCK voted for Antioch over other factions? Jerusalem is all you need for the crusader states, Antioch is an NPC faction.
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>>572177031
as it should be this isn't paradox go back to ck2, it'll feature feudal mechanics in the faction and that's enough, hre was always 1 faction in medieval
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>>572174221
Bros...Im conflicted....who do we depict as the virgin and who the chad? Sotek or Volound?
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>>572176761
hope we get a playable pope dlc
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>>572177256
there are no chads in this conflict
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>>572177031
The HRE was heavily centralized during this period, people who keep asking for it to be forty different shitty states are stupid. They've already said it'll have some unique mechanics having to do with its different cultural areas and perhaps even a unique succession mechanic.

>>572177170
It's one realm even in CK3.
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>>572177031
HRE is going to be one faction with a lot of internal vassals, that's how they are planning it to work.
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>>572174221
>an hour long video of seething at Sòytek while repeatedly stating that he doesn't care
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>>572177981
sounds like a familiar trend for that guy
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>>572174221
>Le heckin STOVK old grog who doesn't tolerate those sissies!
>Wails and demands civility when it's his turn to be called names.
Something something accusation something confession. Every time. Always the same with these bell-ends, but they second they get any significant pushback, they crawl into their holes and try to victimise themselves. They should be allowed to harass and bully everyone without reprisal and those who complain are 'triggered'. However, they are untouchable icons that will quote the law book when someone decides to throw shit at them.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1uhgcdy/total_war_medieval_3_complete_faction_map/
Heart breaking that every comment is asking it to be more like Paradox games.
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>>572177031
Yeah but we don't know how many territories the HRE is really/directly owning, could be 1 or 2 like in 1212AD.
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>>572179886
Paradox games have cultivated a captive audience of battered housewives after successfully driving all their competition out of business. It's no surprise the plague of locusts descends on us.
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>>572177086
It was me.
I would have also voted for County of Edessa and Tripoli if possible.
There is never enough DEUS LO VULT.
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I like warhammer, playing archaon, didn't have this fun since playing the huns in attilla, lu bu in 3k and castille in medieval 2
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>>572179886
It's hardly unreasonable to not be at ease with a single monolithic French block when the French's entire history in this period is centrifugalism and struggling to counteract it. Ditto some skepticism at how actually centralized the HRE actually was.

It's all going to depend on how they handle the internal mechanics where maybe the vassals exist as a new kind of sub-state where you can control some but not all of their activities. That may be why they just list "France" as playable and do not mention by name Burgundy, Low countries and so on. Which still feels really mistaken to not let people play as the Flemish, golden spurs and all. So we'll need to see the vassalage/realm mechanics allow for a much higher level of centrifugalism else the secessionist/sectarian wars that come into the 1300s and 1400s won't appear. No Golden spurs, no Polish-Bohemian war (It'll have to be against the entire HRE since single faction).
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>>572179886
BASED, Warhammerkiddies can keep their press button to get stat boost campaign "mechanics" while historychads get the real stuff
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>>572177343
Oh no?
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A few dozen people will buy Med 3, and CA will temporally remember why they stopped making historical games for a while.
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>>572183850
holy COPE
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holy fuck why did anyone even declare war in ancient times just to have spearmen and archers bump against each other until a "once in a generation genius" decides to have his cavalry attack the enemy from behind and then he dies of shitting himself and everybody forgets to attack the enemy from behind for another hundred years?
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>>572184008
What is there for me to cope about? I got the game I want. However, you WILL cry about how shit Med 3 is when it releases. You will shit your pants in rage that your histsòy game lacks the variety of the FantaChad game released in 2016. You will never understand that histsòy games are incapable of offering that variety.
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>>572185247
seething so hard about a game he supposedly doesn't care about
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>>572185247
go away volound
seek validation else wear
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>>572158354
https://voca.ro/1nKYQUoOU81L
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>>572187231
Me I'm just tired of the fucking 7 years on now old stale memes. It's straight up reddit faggot tier to be using the exact same jokes year after year after year nonstop without any novelty to it and gigglesnorting to yourself as if you're clever.

Not 40k factionalism that will actually dominate discourse as people hate eachother's choice. Shit on guardsmen and have guardsfags have connipitions, shit on space wolves and get accused of being a thousand kek, accuse eldarfags of being favored by CA balance wise. Not Medieval 3 eastern european autism or bismillah larping or baiting anglos or french about longbows. Nah, just -soid posting.
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It's time for another Nagash fanmod game before the dlc comes out six months later
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>>572189270
I tried it briefly and was struck by how much voice acting matters. No VA for nagash and my enthusiasm just wilted.
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i've seen one video with volound in and he was tripping over his words trying to talk about Platonism, which he brought up for no reason other than to try to sound smart
was so embarrassing i've avoided his videos since
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>>572189341
He does have VA when you evolve him in the Black Pyramid but it's the generic Tomb King voice. If only there was a open source mod that lets people do there own va work without sucking up to some faggots.
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Reminder that Chadmaster of Chadtek destroyed both Volound, and Legend. He's /ourguy/ for a reason.
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>>572189984
The pear golem already has the love of GW and CA. He doesn't need my support
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>>572190096
The only people who are indifferent to Chadtek are those who don't know him. For those who do it's either love, or fear, and envy. Nothing else, and nothing in between.
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Should i buy 3 kingdoms or medieval?
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>>572190675
why not both, medieval 2 is dirt cheap. if you can only afford the base game of 3k just get medieval 2
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So is the Fay Enchantress actually an elf, a respawning human, or just one of those successive titles where ever new Fay Enchantress pretends to still be the same one as always?
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>>572197214
She's a Beastman cocksleeve
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Look at this funny meme I found in a thread that was moved to a different board.
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Which LL should I cosplay as
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>>572200447
archaon
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>>572200447
that is not you
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>>572200447
With that body? Repanse
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>>572200447
Queek
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>>572200447
me
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>>572158354
>slop op
please an hero immediately
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thread is ghost town
anon posts mildly attractive girl
5 replies..

I'm very disappointed in u guys.
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a baitpost with a hot girl is infinitely less useless than the drivel you spam passnigger
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>>572202292
3D is not important. I will keep posting forever.
Dilate
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Three Kingdoms is like 70% off, is it good?
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>unironically referring to women with actual vaginas instead of cartoon characters as 3d
your parents are ashamed of you behind closed doors
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>>572197214
the fay enchantress is just a human wizard, though she is powered up and made immortal by the lady of the lake (who is an elven goddess who switched to humans for her powersource)

because she is uneducated/receives her power from a goddess/is commanded to assist the lady of the lake with her plans she doesn't really understand magic or have time to study it and is kept in a permanent state of primativity like the rest of bretonnia
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>>572202936
Oh no, a simp..
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Don't even talk to me if your men don't wear their jam-jams underneath their armour in battle.
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I love cathayan cartoons.
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Which LL has the most entries on wikifeet?
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>>572203773
there is a wiki for feet?
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>>572203852
>he doesn't know
picrel Tulsi Gabbard
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>>572204120
Oh also wikifeet has popup ads for Arknights Endfield now :/
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>>572204120
Does the feet wiki have loli archaon?
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>>572204120
total war: tulsi gabbard
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shogun or medieval 2?
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>>572209819
shogun 1 or 2
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>>572209819
france
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>>572202768
it's objectively the best game in the series and the best selling title as well
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>>572210923
3kuckdoms isn't even the best TW game with playable China.
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>>572211159
more like the mongrel invasion
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>Skaven have an army stance that allows them to directly attack others in Ambush mode blocking their reinforcements while still allowing the Skaven to be reinforced
why did the devs just pour all their shit into the skaven faction? their campaigns are mind numblingly easy because of how brokenly OP they are
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>>572159436
Looks like a flooded Ireland.
>>572171995
You don't need a Scott tankie to tell you that, poll and the map they showed makes it clear.
>>572180386
They were really limited by not being able to edit the map...
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>>572214193
The Devs have stated they are fans of the faction and wanted at least one faction to be new player accessible. That's why Skaven got a bunch of buffs, increased campaign mechanics, and all around stronger than average infantry and weapons. They also said they thought it was unfair that Skaven had poor infantry, which is why they buffed most Skaven mainline infantry in addition to buffing all Skaven hero mechanics, giving Skaven plague mechanics as well as offensive ambush capabilities, and some of the best spells in the game.
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>>572214193
skaven won bigly in the end so it makes sense

the imperial guard will be like dat in 40k too
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>>572214193
>Richard Aldridge: "A lot of people always ask us about balance. We never wanted or said we'd make a balanced game. Skaven were designed with being overpowered in mind. We thought, 'How cool would it be to just have one faction that would paint the map?'. That was the big motivation behind the team when we were designing the Skaven faction. We needed a faction that the player would have to face late game that would be unstoppable. So, that's why we decided to give Skaven a bunch of new mechanics and the strongest infantry, spells, and ranged units in the game."
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wtf just noticed the papal states declared too
so total war it is...
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>>572215908
Why does the ui look so weird?
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>>572215991
its the vanilla beyond mod, I like how it looks, specailly the minimap, the segmented default minimap in rome 1/med 2 kinda looked unaesthethic
a big part of europe is white rn
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>>572216038
Yeah it looks pretty clean. How do you think it plays vs. Stainless Steel? Got an SS campaign going now but I'm kind of bored with it. The mechanics feel weird.
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>>572211159
Didn't Chinese and Korean shipbuilders sabotage Mongol's invasion efforts
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>>572216121
just like it says its literally just vanilla with a bigger map and some extra units n buildings here n there, plays the exact same as vanilla p much
some new buildings like pic rel i think is new, new events and new units here n there that's it
also mongols are on the map from the start and are creeping up
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>>572216242
Cool, absolutely checking it out now.
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>>572216418
its okay, haven't done a stainless steel campaign but I tried SSHIP and it seems too autistic and slow to be that fun
I quite like how vanilla med2 looks, tsardoms looks like a great mod but its so fucking ugly, the visual clutter added everywhere is "cool" but blurry jpgegs on every single UI element hurts my eyes to look at, the map is also super dark
i'll still give it a playthrough eventually

rn ferrying 3 mega armies from my recruiting regions into italy tick tock pope...
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Another week without WH3 update from CA
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>>572174221
TW youtubers are truly the worst of the worst holy shit
imagine getting this upset over a mediocre franchise
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>hiscucks get a smaller map
>fantasychads got an almost finished world map years ago
at least hiscucks will shut up about muh M3 now
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STOP RUNNING FOR THE HIGHGROUND AAA
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>>572218613
>slop
draw something in ms paint. NOW.
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CROSSBOWS
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>>572220004
>crossbows
more like cross dressing faggots!
t. the second lateran council in 1139
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Me and my wife
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>>572220439
not worth it man
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>>572219002
don't have a tablet
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damn, got mogged
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The Greeks could rule /twg/..
Alexander did.
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But Alexander is dead..
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>>572220772
2bad that guy was macedonian
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which is a better vanilla+ experience
Vanilla Kingdoms or Vanilla Beyond?
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>>572220772
>The Greeks
he was a turk
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>>572221138
is that image supposed to be funny?
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>>572221115
haven't played vanilla kingdoms looks good though
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>>572221138
least nationalistic Roach
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hussars are absolute beast
very fragile but they're pretty much light shock cav, so fast
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>>572218613
It only took 6 years sloppi
>wh1 release: May 2016
>wh2 release: September 2017
>wh3 release: February 2022
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birb
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absolute mess can't move an army in italy
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THE WHAT
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>>572218613
Elfbait
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>>572221934
its over for michael
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>zerg to eight peaks as clan angrund
>arenassa and ikit wipe out my starting areas and then eventually travel across the world just to gank me
>gorbad who always blobs almost instantly declares war
>the other rat fuck in the mountains who always blobs declares war after gorbad
I'm not too sure about this zerging strategy
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Total Nan-Gau victory
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>>572224563
If you just start destroying stacks they'll stop declaring war. Sometimes violence is the answer.
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Probably my final build. A very robust, meaty army
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>>572170085
Very based cats. Please dont remove them. They are nice!
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>>572226864
>playing ogres
>no ogres in army
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>>572226997
OH MY GOD YINYIN I LOVE YOU
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Meat against machines. This will be a very robust battle!
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>>572229095
jesus christ I hate doomstacks
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>>572229320
Pic unrelated.
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Why is there no bretonnia in 40k
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>>572229775
Empire Knights
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hell yeah templars with guns
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>>572230432
why do you have knights templar in pol-
>turn 1342
what the fuck
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>>572231171
nah that's just the year indicator
its turn 150 or something
also because you can chose "yes" to allow templars to build guilds in your settlements as any catholic faction, giving you their units, they're generally pretty op, highest atk crossbowmen ive seen
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>>572229775
I think I recall some IG regiment that larped as knights and used Bretonnia bits and whatnot but that may have been one someone made up for fun.
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>>572232627
nice purple carpet though
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>>572229775
Imperial knights, their guard are callled men at arms
Also 40K has feudal worlds
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>>572229775
Knights have a heavy feudal inspired system with a peasant undercaste and noble houses, and the big ass robots are treated as their "steeds"
So yeah they kinda exist
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>med3 will release with 6 factions
>warhammer 3 have a bazillion
>3k had more than 10 startpos at launch
>troy and pharaoh also had more than 4 startpos at launch
40k will feel BARREN until the dlc start rolling just like warhammer 1
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>>572235667
so base game will have 4 factions but how will they be distributed?
i can see eldar sort of distributed similarly to wood elf trees, just small pockets around the galaxy
but with the other factions being orks and imperial guard/space marines, will they just give half the galaxy more or less to each at the start?
also how will sieges work when we inevitably get autistic siege factions like imperial fists and iron warriors
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>>572235667
>>med3 will release with 6 factions
10, the 6 mentioned before are the only ones confirmed
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>>572235881
I think its gonna be randomly assigned to one of the four, otherwise we would be fighting nothing but IG and orks ad infinitum
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i need something like total war but futuristic with spaceships and shit like that, what would you recommend?
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>>572202120
try to stop me
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Today we will cook a nice robust meat!
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fucking soul crushing battle just end already
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>>572237167
Man release 40k will suck big time
I cant even remember how warhammer 1 felt back in 2016 but I remember there being a LOT of placeholder imperial factions and orks
The difference is that we didnt know any better back in the day
CA should have cooked atleast one more faction for release
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>>572237785
not every battle is meant to be won i guess
fuck sicily too
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>>572237705
SAAR
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>>572238178
I was playing enedwaith in dac earlier and I actually lost a battle to rebels
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>>572237786
there were 8 fucking LLs and empire/vcounts couldn't occupy dwarf/greenskin settlements and vice versa

that was so dumb honestly, I got a mod to change that after my first few games
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>>572240001
autoresolve is an absolute joke in med 2, im fighting more battles in this campaign than 5 campaigns in warhammer, and this is on medium
u always lose way too many elite troops for it to be worth it and no replenishment
rn being fucked by the black plague too
can't believe some maniacs play this game on VH, no way
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does anyone know if golgfag due to his expanded item list is able to steal things in battle he could be rewarded from contracts? like gilded cuirass(bretonnia) or daith's reaper(wood elves)
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>>572240132
And in release both LLs of a faction would spawn in the same capital, so gelt and karl would spawn both in reikdorf and so on.
I remember everything west of sylvania and north of the badlands to be imperial factions, all the mountains had were dwarfs or orcs, and norsca was just marauders, marauder riders and basic ass chariots and of course, you could not settle anything that didn't belong to your faction.
Anyone coming from nowaday's warham 3 experience would be bored to tears or outright annoyed by this setup, which is why I hope CA will deliver black legion as a surprise drop before release
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>>572240164
also
>AI actually using multiple wall layers for defense
this shit sucks gimmie back the braindead AI
frustrating as fuck to deal with
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>>572240164
auto resolve used to be unusable until rome 2.
I mean, you COULD use it, but doing so was a guarantee that you would lose half of your stack
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>>572240879
>And in release both LLs of a faction would spawn in the same capital, so gelt and karl would spawn both in reikdorf and so on.
that wasn't even changed until well into WH2

>norsca was just marauders, marauder riders and basic ass chariots
the origin of the surtha ek memes
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>>572237654
Empire at War
Sins of a Solar Empire
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some lost tech
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>>572241553
Sins of a solar empire has nothing to do with total war though.
It would be like recommending him stellaris
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>>572238178
That's what you get for messing with Team Rocket!
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My trusty mouse is getting too old and broken.
What would (you) reccommend?
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>>572243057
atk dragonfly a9 air, its a logitech superlight 2 which is an amazing mouse, but for 60$ instead of 120$, i have a superlight 2 myself so no reason to get it but some say its even better than it
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>>572243253
well my current one is Logitech g402 so at least I know they work
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>>572243368
not sure I'm a fan of a wireless though
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>>572243527
there's 0 reason to go wired miced in 2026, no latency or anythin' like that, the battery lasts 2 weeks even tho im on my PC all day, and when its about to run out you simply unplug the receiver from a dongle usually sitting on your desk with a usb extension cord thing, plug it into the mouse, and its a wired mouse for like 2-3 hours, back to full charge

its like that on most of them anyways
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>>572243057
Love me Aerox 9
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well that's it for diplomacy since the piece of shit pope declared a crusade on me
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>>572241003
ah shit you mentioned it in the last thread but i cant find it anymore, other than the illegal mod that warrants multiple death sentences, what other mods are you using?
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>>572246440
vanilla beyond with m2ex
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>>572246960
thanks gamer, i remember playing a lot of m2 back in my baby years, then i could never go back cus i couldn't get used to non modern controls, and now I get to play the game with rose tinted glasses that actually work
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>>572248057
yeah same, this mod allowed me to play med 2 again, no way could i get used to the old controls otherwise, played the shit out of this game as a kid now its time for some more runs, and there's basically endless content for med 2 between the bajillion full conversion mods out there, i'll get bored eventually but for now its peak
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Ind lore sirs
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>>572246083
Does this mod change up unit rosters any? Or just the map, UI?
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>>572258101
adds units & buildings
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>>572258315
It seems like it adds expansions units and factions, but does it also add brand new units?
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>>572258563
yes but idk if they're fully new or reskins or some shit, there's a 100 unit heavy cav for byzantines for example that def wasn't in the base game
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>>572251148
Saar cooking..only Cathayan gutter oil can compare to this..delicacy
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>>572200447
YinYin
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Be honest with me bros... is TW40k going to be good?
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>>572260781
we don't know?
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>>572260781
LMAO
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>>572260781
no
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>>572260781
yes
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>do Aislinn campaign
>after clearing Ulthuan I kick the shit out of Ikit and Aranessa
>Belegar loves me for that, figure with the diplo buffs I've got I can make him a good northern buffer while I take some territory in the badlands to gift to Imrik
>while beating up Queek and Gorbad Belegar somehow ends up at war with Imrik
>little fuck sends like 6 armies to gobble up the freshly established outposts
I'm never trusting a dwarf again. What's /twg/'s preferred method of TSD (Total Stuntie Death)?
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>>572260781
Real answer?
It will be good after we have atleast 3 DLC, just like WH1
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Steam summer sales got me thinking about getting into TW but I fear being too much of a brainlet to understand how to play these games. They look cool, though. Which would be best to start playing ? Was thinking maybe Warhammer 3 or Shogun 2.
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>>572261283
the very basics? Rome 2 unironically or one of the warhams if history doesnt interest you
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>>572261283
>but I fear being too much of a brainlet to understand how to play these games.
You have to be impressively retarded to be unable to play Total War, like sub 90 IQ.
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>>572261283
shogun 2 is one of the harder games, warhammer is really easy though, rome 2 as rome as also super easy, just pick whichever ones setting u like, its easy, follow the tutorial, get in a campaign, check what the enemies ur attacking have, recruit some troops to match theirs, attack, win, repeat, you'll figure it out within a few hrs
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>>572261492
oh and for battles, spread all your melee in a line, just behind them spread all ur archers in a line, general behind those, artillery behind those, cavalry on the left n right side of ur melee line, and just wait, maybe tell ur cavalry to flank around when the melee lines clash and the dudes are stuck in melee, enough to win 99% of total war battles
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>>572261859
>Archers behind Melee.
LOL
LMAO
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>>572262138
microing them is slightly too much of a hassle for a noob
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You guys just reminded me that Hastati are a tier 1 unit with 60 armour and good melee stats.
The Empire could never.
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>unit tiers
I hate this.
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>unit caps
I love this.
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>>572262906
hastati are my fav unit in all of TW
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>>572171995
Melkor summarized all the issues in 3 minutes
>pic related
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>>572263338
They are awesome but just 1 tier later you gets Principes which are basically Hastati 2.0
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>>572263454
i guess
much less soul though
hastati... velites... now those were some proper units
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>>572263443
I am retarded
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>>572263693
CA is a very small family run game dev, so it makes sense they can only have six factions. You're just entitled.
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>>572263693
Difference is the fan mods factions all play the exact same except with different units, we can assume the Med 3 factions will have totally separate mechanics
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>>572263693
1212 is a mod for a game where the heavy lifting was done for them, has been in development for a decade, and still isn't finished. Half the factions have incomplete rosters with no later units. The absolute state of Volound-tier spergs.
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>>572263904
>Difference is the fan mods factions all play the exact same except with different units
not in the Medieval 2 mods like SS or even Vanilla+ mods like Vanilla Kingdoms that just add the factions from the expansion to the game
>totally seperate machanics
>HRE will need to collect favor as an extra resource
>France will need to collect Chivalry as an extra resource
>>572264883
most rosters are actually fleshed out by now
the campaign is a glorified custom battle generator tho
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>>572264883
>Volound-tier spergs.
>replied to a post making fun of the wheel commie's video length
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>>572265302
Yes own court mechanics + separate currencies and dillemas/events leads to more faction variety and needs a lot of work
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>>572261283
Just start with warhammer, shogun 2 AI is really mean to you if you don’t know what you’re doing. Wh3 AI has a decent degree of predictability by comparison
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>>572265507
> separate currencies and dillemas/events
as if Milan/Venice/Pisa are going to get 100 completly different events that totally won't just be "choose between +10 armor or +10 melee attack"
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>>572265880
i dunno what they mentioned in the dev stream all sounded great, yes its still years away and pre-dev, but the TWC oldheads are so insanely negative though, not a shred of positivity, just dooming and bitching 24/7 volound style, its very tiresome
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>>572265474
I'm referring to the fact that comparing a mod for RTW to a modern game is inherently silly in the first place. It's like comparing the Warhammer mod for RTW to even release WH1. Yeah, WH1 was lacking in all the content we have now on release but no one was going to say "just play this mod for RTW instead bro"
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>>572266061
the entire debate is just doompost vs "leave the multi-million dollar company alone" sperging
I won't buy it because the map/faction selection just screams DLC printing machine
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>>572266326
>I won't buy it because the map/faction selection just screams DLC printing machine
just like rome 2 and attila and warhammer and...
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>>572266326
You needed the map to show you that CA depends on DLC now? yes that's been their model for about 10 years, I don't mind paying 10$ every few months for a game I'd play for hundreds of hours, long as its good of course
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>>572266138
>no one was going to say "just play this mod for RTW instead bro"
there are some Call of Warhammer shills tho
just take a look at this guy claiming that the mod is superior to TWW and totally isn't just coping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f09VTTbY91g

>battles with less than 10 units on each side
>20 FPS in TWW
>no magic
>doesn't show off any of the fantasy races
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>>572267090
hmm m2ex probably fixed the 20fps thing, I kinda wanna try the mod for the lolz downloading it rn
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>>572267090
Honestly, BOTET is pretty impressive considering it's a Med 2 mod but it is janky as shit and I would not recommend it to most people for that reason.
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>>572260781
It desperately needs Nids and Necrons, in whatever form it might be, even most barren dlc bait one
After that it's whatever, but game won't even start until those are in
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oh shit
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>>572269586
this is something not in warhammer tho
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What if Clio Ogremaxxed?
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>>572260781
Yes but it wont be enough for anyone who has played the series for a long time since the expectation is always to get all the mechanics of previous games + something new. Obviously that wont happen, so we'll have the usual
>le m2 did this 30 years ago
shitposting
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>>572270083
>since the expectation is always to get all the mechanics of previous games + something new
why would I want to buy a new game if it has less mechanics?
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dogs of war sex
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alright kinda kekd
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>>572270015
Clio (Loremaster of Sotek)
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the map is quite big
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>>572270015
she doesn't seem to like ogres much
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unironically though its amazing what they achieved with med2 engine
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>>572271083
Game engines were built different back then. You often could do whatever you wanted with them. Now they're extremely locked down, often thanks to third party software.
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>>572271083
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they really are tall (for a dwarf)
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>Put my Cathayan peasant long spearmen in a chokepoint entrance to the minor town I'm defending.
>They're really just a sacrificial block while I try to finish off the other enemies trying to enter from a different direction.
>Pretty much just forget about them.
>Check later once I'm done with those.
>Oh cool, they're still holdi-
>They have racked up 150 kills.
>Only lost 20 men.
>What the absolute fuck.
>Decide to build a tower right next to them.
>They end up winning.

Fucking pointy stick chads.
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>>572272335
kek
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>>572272335
well... they tried.
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>>572273767
>>572273347
just having flying units at all on med 2 is crazy, the gyrocopters work much better but the dragon lmao
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>>572272335
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>>572274163
daemonettes got some cheeks tho
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>>572272906
the first guy to ask what happens if you give soldiers as long of a pointy stick as it's physically possible for a human being to hold horizontally conquered the largest empire the world would know for 1500 years
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huh to this day im missing a lot of this shit
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>>572279541
and these
is last roman any fun? Is it less apocalyptic than base attila and more like playing Rome 2 rome?
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I don't get why GW/CA decided to flesh out the lords of Shang Yang so much before actually adding the remaining dragons and Monkey King.
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>>572279919
You raise a good point. I wonder if we will ever see Li Dao or Yin Yin.
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>>572280617
we'll probably see one but not both
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Rank the /twg/ drawfags
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>>572282645
Heir>POM>GBOG>Turin>Volound>Legend>>>>>>Soitek>>>>troonmedes> terminator
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>>572282645
1 - The artists who are actually professional and do commissions
2 - People with sketch tablets
3 - People using MS paint
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>>572282645
AI artists > everyone else
Better to be on the cutting edge.
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Tldr on how Aislinn works?
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>>572284332
you're a semi-horde
you have elven colonies which are like super settlements, but you get a limited amount
most settlements you're supposed to gift to a friendly helf faction

he's unbelievably easy mode
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>>572284332
capture capital city ports only to get dragonship supplies
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Does Shogun 2 have the fastest battles in all of TW? Everything melts so fast as soon as they collide
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>>572286972
I honestly think Attila might be even faster, last time I played it I was kind of astounded at how ridiculously fast infantry melts. The only ones that seem to last any amount of time is roman infantry in defensive testudo on a checkpoint, and even then only relatively. It's why I can't go back to it now.

By comparison, in Pharaoh if you get a proper unit of heavy spearmen, those motherfuckers can plant their asses in one spot and last in melee until all ammunition on the map is spent.
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>>572287928
Attila is only faster when you flank. Units will collapse when attacked from behind.
Frontal attacks are not as fast. Attila can be very defensive, especially for the Western Romans or when pikes are involved.
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>>572286972
Yes. Honestly I think it's too fast.
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>>572286972
I've had ambush battles in warhammer 3 that have lasted less than a minute
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>>572287928
My experience is the opposite. Attila can be fast or slow depending on what units are fighting but generally if you put a defensively-statted unit on a chokepoint it's going to hold out frontally against all but the most premium shock units for a very long time. Units can melt when they're flanked or caught out but otherwise they hold on pretty well. A lot of the experience of playing Attila is destroying entire stacks of germanic chaff with a unit of generic garrison spearmanii holding a chokepoint.

Pharaoh and Dynasties feels like the opposite. Things tend to get ground through frontally in pretty short order and it never really feels like you can bottle a chokepoint unless you've got ultra high-tier endgame unbreakable defenders holding out against tier 1 clubmanii. That game kind of revolves around offensive and shock infantry just kind of charging in and bodying, which is honestly one of the reasons I find it kind of boring to play. If your stats are superior you can just walk forward and win; if your stats are inferior there isn't really all that much you can do to influence the outcome of a battle because a single high-tier unit enveloped by lower-tier units will just not care it's being attacked from all sides and fight its way through. The only units strong enough to be an anvil are your hammer.
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>>572286972
I'd argue the fastest are Rome 1 because its chain rout mechanics means entire armies can just full break off the initial contact and the whole battle lasts a couple seconds. Shogun 2 definitely has the most lethal combat to a fault but despite archers mowing down everything absurdly fast, units don't break as quickly as Rome 1.
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>>572291379
I think your point about Attila is more an indictment of its braindead AI than anything chief. It has its fair share of stat check units too, need I mention Spet Xyon Archers?
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>>572291773
>need I mention this obscure unit exclusive to a horde minor faction whose entire claim to fame is having missile block chance on a horse archer
Okay?
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>>572292273
>obscure unit
>minor horde faction
Bruh.
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>>572291773
>Spet Xyon Archers
they're an exception desu

>>572292273
>minor faction
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>>572292380
Yuh?
If you wanted to shitpost properly you should have brought up pay2win slav poison archers but you clearly got your opinion from youtube rather than actually playing the game.
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>>572260781
Will be barebones as fuck during release but it will be hard carried by the IP.

DoW4 is in September, that game will be marginally better even if Total War got the massive battles to a tee compared to this mid Germoid studio.
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>>572292515
Slavs get checked early on and only one faction even gets the poison arrows. If you don't know about the White Huns I think you might be the sloptuber immigrant retard.
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Which Kislev LL specializes most on using the war sleds?
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>>572293126
All 3 slavs get a generic poison archer and the Anteans get a unique archer with a heavy poison that stacks with the regular. Since they're basic units you can adopt them from slaving hordes as either of the Romes and trivialize your campaign. If the slavs get lucky and NAP the huns or if you use mods to help the AI colonize then they can survive to lategame and ruin your campaign because poison archers are absolutely fucking awfulto play against

White Huns always die to the Sassanids within the first ~20 turns of the campaign and there's basically no mods that can save them. As such, there isn't a single person in this thread that's ever actually faced Spet Xyon archers, which are a high-tier unit the White Huns never survive to recruit, in a campaign. Even if you played the Sassanids and kept the White Huns alive as a pet I don't think you could coax them into teching up enough to recruit them before they wander off to suicide against someone else.

Like Tagmata Cavalry or Athar's Chosen, Spet Xyon are a unit that MPfags complained about, which youtubers parrot because it's easier to repeat what another youtube says than play the game yourself. And now you find yourself at the very end of this decade-long human centipede, puking their excrement back here. What a faggot.
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>>572294014
>And now you find yourself at the very end of this decade-long human centipede, puking their excrement back here
I swear I've seen similar phrasing before
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>>572294014
Is Attila TW worth playing?
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>>572294014
Are you talking about the fucking Slavic archers? Two of them couldn't kill a basic fucking cohors unit. Only the actual poison archers of the Anteans are worth shit. Claiming the White Huns never win against the Sassanids but somehow acting like there's a magic realm where the slavs aren't bodied by the Huns is hilarious. Attila is a blatantly rushed game, it's bizarre to claim otherwise. Putting aside claimed MPfaggotry the campaign mechanics themselves were balanced by monkeys.
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>>572294880
Yes. It has the best atmosphere in the entire franchise. The world legitimately feels like it is ending.
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>>572293369
mother ostankya, nobody really specializes in them anymore as kislev lost the ice witch training event which boosts them but ostankya gives them magical attacks, woodsman with an skill at level 4 and has unique research that gives them more speed
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>>572294880
As someone with a lot of hours in Attila, probably not. I think it did a lot of things right but those are all piled on the foundation of a game that runs like ass with an AI that barely functions on a campaign map where every other empire recruits shitstacks of 20 spearmanii and dies off because the AI can't play its own game.

I play with a million mods that result in something that speaks to my personal autism but unless you're very deep down the TW hole with nothing else to play I'd say don't waste your time.
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>>572295068
>the campaign mechanics themselves were balanced by monkeys.
kek filtered
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They're gonna sell the II and the XI legion as DLC.
Every time you try to look up Total War you will drown in reddit OC
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I tried playing slavs the other week and yeah only anteans get any kinda poison arrows that guy is wrong bout that, and it's also pure suffering to have nonstop hordes everywhere and it takes 4 turns to get from one of ur settlements to the other, the map might be too damn big, at least eastern europe, I think I prefer med 2 with insane movement x close together cities, next time I try Attila slavs I'll try to migrate to Iberia or something, also the game has some of the best battles gameplay in the series, just buy it for the dawnless days mod tho, even rn half finished, it's a great mod, tons of fun
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>>572297140
Get with the times, old man. Both of those legions were confirmed erased from memory due to some vague crime.
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>>572297174
That anon is technically right in that the basic Slavic archers' arrows are counted as poison arrows if you hover over their unit card, but they're not particularly good compared to the dedicated poison archers of the Anteans so if you're discussing OP units in the game you should only be referring to the Anteans.
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>>572297174
Slavic Archers (Levy, Archer, Hunter) are available to all 3 slav factions and have access to poison arrows.
Poison Archers/Hunters, unique to the Anteans, have a secondary "heavy poison" that stacks with regular poison from Slavic Archers

Both inflict damage over time that ticks for several seconds if even 1 arrow strikes a unit (even if it's blocked), permanently fix their stamina to Exhausted and inflict a moral penalty on them. While stacking both poison types is hilariously broken, just a single unit of regular slavic archers that are well-micro'd to avoid wasting shots can get thousands of kills in a battle because of how much damage the DoT can do.

There just isn't really much reason to play the other 2 slavs because nothing their rosters get are anywhere near as strong as stacking poison, and the Anteans get the best faction passives anyways.
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After I get the starting province as Tyrion what should I focus on?
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I'm so fat 3 am and I'm drooling looking over wolt dishes on what I'm gonna order tomorrow something meaty
LL for this feel? hard mode no ogres
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>>572298349
Tyrion is your best melee lord but he is sort of a borderline top tier melee fighter, the only way to buff him with what he needs is to either use the sword of khaine or start trait farming. You can go south and beat skull taker for physical resist and then just leave the lizardbowl to go north to potentially kill crone hellabron/valkyria/sigvald/malus/wulfric/trogg in that order and conquer your way toward kislev. beating malekith gives you frenzy but you likely already did that in the quest battle which gives you his defeat trait.

If imrik didn't die off you should consider confeding him immediately as his starting territory has a unique building that combines with your ulthuan buildings to significantly reduce the upkeep of dragons so much that if you have dragon willed princes you can have your dragon units be both free to recruit and have no upkeep
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>>572299562
This is my first campaign. I really appreciate the advice.
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The one time I played Alarielle, Be'lakor decided to attack the north eastern HE faction instead of Bretonnia like he does every game.
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>>572299869
ok???
Who asked?????
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>>572296980
Defend cataphracts "upgrading" to scholae gentiles you FAGGOT
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>>572300129
>play nation in decline
>your nation declines
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>>572301080
>own most of europe and kicking the hun's ass
>new shock cavalry unit is worse and a forced upgrade
Attila fans man
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>>572299869
That's unfortunate
>>572300110
I did
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>>572298349
damage control
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>>572298349
Kill Noctilus, then go north and clear N'kari if he's still alive.
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>>572300110
I asked
I read
>>572299869
Thanks for sharing
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>>572297140
in nu-lore (aka horus hershels books) those two legions were just Space Wolves'd for some top rule breaking
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>>572306296
Even worse than top rule breaking. It's implied to be worse than the Horus Heresy somehow (although not in size).
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>>572306875
Not necessarily worse, magnus and the thousand sons would likely go the same way had magnus been captured by russ and all he did was collapse the human webway and violate the psyker ban
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>>572300129
The actual answer is that all of WRE's cavalry is shit because it's meant to be an explicit weakness. They rely on supporting units, like their numerous and powerful javelin's with armour-piercing anti anti-large missiles, or their unflankable federati spearmen with all-around expert charge defense and anti-large javelins, in order to swing cavalry fights in their favour.

Catafractarii are shit both because their actual armour is ass for a 'heavy' cavalry unit but also because they're pathetically slow and fatigue extra fast on top of losing in a standing fight to any other equivalent cavalry. Scholae Gentiles are much faster and have excellent stamina, so they can avoid bad fights and draw enemy cavalry into their supporting units, and have shields and better stats that make up for their lighter armour. The only advantage that Catafractarii have is dealing more mass damage when frontally charging braced infantry because they're classed as heavy cavalry, but they're basically the worst heavy cavalry in the game and Scholae are still just fine charging flanks/rear.

It's an upgrade, and one that plays directly into the strengths of the faction's roster. If you want to just stack heavy armour and park your fat ass in front of the enemy, that's what the ERE are designed to do and why they get Clibinarii instead.
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Just picked up WH3 on the steam sale.

Of the base factions (Cathay, Kislev, demons) which would be the best to start out as? I haven't played WH before.
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>>572308327
Depends
Kislev units are versatile but the starting position is rather rough
Cathay is just not fun but is not too hard
Demons is widely considered to be one of the worst campaign in the game
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>>572307359
But that's what I'm saying. Apparently, it was worse than "violate the psyker ban" or "consort with the chaos powers".
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>>572308327
if you're doing immortal empires, try miao ying or n'kari. avoid kugath
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>>572308327
Definitely Cathay, specially Zhao Ming. Cathay has a very well defined basic roster that will do the least to confuse you, you've got your line infantry, your ranged infantry and your cavalry all divided into three distinct tiers of quality, plus a very powerful LL to lean on in either case, and as Zhao you even get a very safe starting position with a clear line of expansion and natural allies on almost all sides.

Kislev has very harsh starting positions and almost all their units are hybrids, and demons... demons just suck ass, worst faction in the game, never look at them again.
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>>572307836
If catafractarii have a specific niche even if they suck according to you why were they entirely replaced with a unit that has a different niche instead of allowing you to recruit both? Why have this upgrade mechanic at all when in certain cases it can change the role of a unit entirely? If the WRE's niche is supposed to be shitty light cavalry why not have their shock cavalry be only light cavalry? Other games in the series have factions with niches that don't have utterly bizarre mechanical choices like this and like most Attila defenders you still don't have a particularly good defense for it. "Git gud it's meant to be hard" is not a defense when Barbarian Invasion exists with none of these problems.
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>>572308327
I guess Cathay>Kislev>Monogod Daemon factions>Daemons of Chaos.
The human factions have fairly solid and standard rosters out of the box.
Khorne/Slaanesh/Tzeentch/Nurgle all have some good campaigns but require DLCs to reach their potential. The faction that's just "Daemons of Chaos" is dogshit, unfinished and forgotten. An experiment that wasn't worth taking to its conclusion.
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FOR GRAND CATHAY
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>>572279779
Yeah it's a little like playing Rome in Rome 2 but your conquest path is very linear and scripted. It's still a fun campaign though IMO
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>reddithay
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Will the dark king be playable in tw40k
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>>572312731
The Space Marines already are.
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>>572310109
Because the point is that WRE starts with an ill-suited roster of weak units and poor synergy and its tech path gradually replaces those units with with better, more specialized units that do synergize. The WRE has an army that doesn't work in a failing empire and has to adapt to survive, which is represented mechanically in how their roster changes. Because that's how their entire campaign is designed and presented. Or you can choose not to pursue military tech that does nothing except change your roster of you don't want your roster to change and make do with those units because you like their vibes or whatever. Once again, if you want your emotional support rome without the challenge of a crumbling empire with a handicapped roster, the ERE exists to be that choice for you. Opting into a challenge only to complain that it's challenging is the epitome of a skill issue.

Saying "this is not a defense" isn't an argument either, it just makes me wonder if I'm wasting my breath on someone as leadpoisoned as Volound.
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>>572314397
Cataphracts might be poor medium cavalry but armored cavalry has a use, as does light cavalry. It doesn't matter if that medium cavalry sucks. Why can't you recruit both? You still cannot explain WHY this was a good design decision when not only is it out of the norm for Total War, it's out of the norm for strategy games in general.

>Opting into a challenge only to complain that it's challenging is the epitome of a skill issue.
You literally did exactly what I said you'd do and thought it was a slam dunk somehow. BI WRE is just as difficult as Attila WRE and makes none of these bizarre mechanical choices. I get that you like the game, I like it sometimes too, but Attila fans get absurdly defensive and lash out at boogeymen all the time in their defenses of the game.
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>>572312731
No niggers in space, srry
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>>572314986
>It doesn't matter if that medium cavalry sucks.
Heavy cavalry.
And it does matter, because a role is reinforced by stats. Cataphractarii don't have the raw combat stats to excel in their intended role has heavy cavalry making them a poor stopgap. but also lack the mobility to excel anywhere else. You replace them with a unit that has similar stats but upgraded mobility, which now gives it a role it can perform well. You can't recruit both for the same reason you can't recruit levy archers and basic archers, because it's redundant to recruit the downgrade and because your choice is already represented in choosing to click on the button in the research screen that replaces them.

You're trying to make a gameplay argument about a game you clearly haven't played, which is why all you can actually say about it is that it's "not the norm" because you like the flavour of one unit portrait over another. Because none of the actual gameplay considerations that go into a game design decision can possibly matter to you if you don't actually play the game.

Your entire second paragraph is incoherent schizobabble with no argument so there's nothing to respond to there.
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please stop arguing friends
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>>572315868
>you don't play the game waaaaaaaaaaaaah you just hate it because you're volound waaaaaaaaaah
Literally nothing left to say at this point.
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>>572314986
>Attila fans get absurdly defensive
This whole reply chain started with someone saying "I think attila is fast" and someone else saying "I don't think it's that fast" and since then you've jumped from spet xyon to slavic archers to cataphracts over like 5 hours while vaguecrying about "mechanics" trying to pin a gotcha on the Attilafags in your walls and you're still replying to every post.

I don't think "Attila fans" are the defensive ones here, bud.
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>>572316670
Yes? Some guy's point that because trash German stacks can get stuck in siege battle chokepoints that means the game is not fast should hopefully be blatantly odd to everyone reading it. Rome 1 city battles with chokepoints can also drag on, that doesn't mean that unit to unit killing speed is not high in Attila. I hope everyone with eyes can agree that Attila is generally on the higher scale of fast battles in the series. It's not even a criticism of the game, some people love fast battles as demonstrated by Shogun 2.

The Spet Xyon point was a direct criticism of Attila but that was to rebut his point of Pharaoh's units being somehow uniquely stat checky. Stat check units have always been a thing in Warscape games because of how stats scale, perhaps even in all TW games if you wish to argue hard enough.
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>>572317623
I don't think you were supposed to admit you've actually been sat here arguing about Attila all Sunday night, dude
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>>572317879
I've made 9 posts over a 4 hour period inbetween doing other things in a thread specifically designed to discuss TW games. That isn't pathetic by normal people standards much less 4chan standards.
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luv me crossbowmen
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Undead general
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>>572323428
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>>572323513
god I love and respect female elfs, I want to get down on a knee and pledge my service to her... I err I mean RAAAAAAAPE
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>>572323513
>>572323656
RAAAROOOOOO!!!!!!
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>>572323513
I look like this irl
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>>572323513
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>>572235667
I am going to enjoy 40k down the line but I will honestly just skip out on release.
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>>572324164
L O N D O N
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>>572328119
That's not total war...
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>>572328203
sorry i've been seeing some other games...
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sex with miao ying and high elf generic princess
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getting vored by miao ying
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I cant stop play ogres. After a vurrent ogre play I want to play other ogres. Again
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>>572330850
>Downloaded the Bruiser Careers cheat
Time for another Ogre campaign for me as well.
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>>572272335
I always feel bad laughing at this sort of thing because it's impressive that they could even do this

but it still looks funny as fuck
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How shit and barebones will TW40k be?
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>>572334748
>4 factions
>1 system
>spess marin (bolter)
>spess marin (bolt rifle)
>spess marin (chainsword)
>spess marin (power sword)
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>>572282645
Idk who's who
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What will Volound say if TW:40K is successful
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>>572335074
That really sounds shit. Why are tertiaries hyped again?
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>>572335583
Same thing he said when the M3 stream showed all the things he has been complaining about for years, moving the goalposts to complain about something else
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>>572335583
Same thing Froggy, our schizo that occasionally visits will say
Either "It's only popular because normies are sheeple consoomers, just like Baldur's Gate 3" or move the goalppst and say "It actually flopped somehow due to my arbitrary metric even though it outsold every Total War"
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>>572335583
Doubt anyone thinks that 40k will flop.
Its doubtful that it will be good though
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XYVlDv_oS_U?feature=share
I always forget you can do this in total war
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m2ex is so useful man I just can't go back to playing base med 2 anymore fuck EOP
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>>572338221
actually having just such a battle rn
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Here's a quick question(s).
I know many of you would like to live in the Empire of Man (perhaps everyone itt, since the Empire is that awesome), but what if you couldn't reside in its core lands? Where would you choose to live among its many colonies?
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>>572340115
well bretonnia is clearly the most pleasant sounding choice on that list innit
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>>572340115
>Options are either tropical shithole, desert shithole, frozen shithole or temperate forest
Yeah hit me up with that Bretonnia as well
Yeah hit me jo
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>>572268049
Yeah, they definitely fucked.
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>crane gunners (nippon)
Nippon when?
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>>572343494
I'm afraid they won't make new factions.
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>AAAAH SAVE ME KHAINEEEEE

When I was a kid I used to think Khorne was the coolest thing ever, then I started thinking he was lame and childish.

Now I'm in my 30s and I'm back to thinking he's the coolest thing ever lol.
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>>572343825
Many such cases!
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>>572171995
>med2 fags already crying about med3 after asking for med3 every single day for the past two decades
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>>572176761
Vote!
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somehow spain homies haven't betrayed me 'yet
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>>572176761
1.Sicily
2.Ayuubid
3.Hungary
4.Venice

I'm chill
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Why is CA incapable of implementing any sort of upscaling to their games?

Literal who 3rd worlder devs with 2 packs of cigarettes as budget can implement fucking dlss, what could possibly be so hard?
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>>572344758
are you opertatingly operating a gayming laptop, anon sama? I still play on my old 1080 and everything runs really good. I never use upscalers.
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>>572344758
idk but I think DLSS is gonna look like absolute dogshit for TW with all the long distance rendering being done at all times and how you zoom out often, DLSS is better for close up sequences, besides these games tend to be CPU bound not GPU
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fuck they brought spares
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SHOOOOT
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>>572345227
these guys are stacking it
definitely the best way to use firearms in med2, on top of walls
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>>572345227
>>572345502
can't win em all tho, just too many
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>>572345960
I'd have won
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>>572346462
lmao got his ass
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>>572214534
>They were really limited by not being able to edit the map...
But they are editing the map now, adding new seetlements.
Compare current map >>572180386 and the futur (SOON) one (see pic).
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>>572346462
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>>572271786
post sexy sorceress
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>>572347339
that's better
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they're like roaches
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a balista in the middle of this would make this square perfect
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>>572279541
RoR is good, the rest depends entirely on how interesting you find the cultures
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>>572349052
what about empire divided
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>>572348615
that's a big wall
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>>572349189
either the large city or huge city model
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>>572349179
Kino. Unlike the other anon I would generally recommend you buy every DLC except Wrath of Sparta and maybe Beasts of War. Even Caesar in Gaul and Hannibal at the Gates unlock factions for the base game.
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>>572349179
Pretty good, aside from adding sanitation you also get a small narrative events, and the new units are nice. If you like playing Rome, Sassanid, or Goths then you will like it.
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spooky
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as always long pikes = rape machines
I think these units were balanced without the pike fix that m2ex does in mind
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Which are the best dwarf artillery pieces? They've got quite a few, many of them go on different red line slots, and the highest tier ones are much shorter range than the low tier ones.
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>>572350608
counting or not counting chaos dwarfs
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>>572350683
Not counting.
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>>572350786
idk i always just spam flame cannons
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>>572350608
it really depends on what you are fighting against and do you have a ton of irondrakes in your army.
If you do use Irondrakes it's good to use flame cannons also they are really good against infantry blops. Shorter range though
Organs are more all rounders so they are always pretty good.
I like to have at least 1 cannon if I'm using organs just for that bigger range and anti-large also they do decent against infanty if you give it that exploding shots rune
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>>572351092
Organs also do ton of damage if you give them that exploding shots rune
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The elf fears the ratchad
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>>572340115
I think I'd prefer Sudenburg. A nice coastal city, rich due to the plundering of nearby lizardmen buildings - and trade from other Old World cities, with warm waters to beach on.
Living in Bretonnia might seem the better option at first (if you don't mind, Fantasy-Frenchmen), but I wouldn't want do possibly deal with Beastmen or the WElves.
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>>572351452
Pestilence confirmed best clan
Morsissies Skyrecucks need not reply
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>>572351452
poostilens is disgusting yes
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accidentally gave these guys perfect sightlines
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damn they gave em straps
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>>572349189
UU
UU
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>>572352373
Medieval 3 better have actual guns and not the reskinned crossbows of the Warhammer games.
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Which way, Altdorf man?
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>>572354906
>reskinned crossbows of the Warhammer games.
was there ever a mod that revamped firearms?
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>>572355071
Thanquol
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>>572355071
Where's the elf
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>>572356614
I know there are mods for reload animations but I think actual volumetric smoke is lostech at this point, as is sound travel time. I haven't seen any other mods that 'punch' back to firearms.
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>>572357292
there is a smoke mod but it tanks fps if you zoom in
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>>572358504
doesn't do that for me with a 4070
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why do some people itt shit on para bellum, again?
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Praise the meat!
Meat!
MEAT!
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>>572335583
Something something people are sheep and CA is shit
His entire career is built on being
>blackpilled complaining scot launching trvkes
what do you expect? His audience just want to feel catharsis in his words
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I will be honest
I want day one dlc and people are retarded for chimping out about it
Now we gonna get 40k with just 4 factions and have a forced wait time of one month until they release black legion because reddit retards dont realize that day one dlc will always exist, the difference is when it gets released, on release day vs one month after, it will always be cut content from release nonetheless
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>>572363293
I want CA to make good games
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4 launch factions is more than enough for 40k, stop whining
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>Tomorrow at the same time, we will know the third LL from LEOT.
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>>572363293
Would play only after Angron release
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>>572363293
I'm glad it doesn't have that.. cause I'm not gonna pre-order that horseshit. I'm gonna play warhammer 3, hoping my irl mates don't wanna play it. But when they do and I have to buy it, I don't wanna have to pay extra for a fucking day1 dlc while they got it for free for pre-ordering.
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>>572363378
>wanting good games
lmao okay unc
I just want to coomsom
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>>572363558
This. Empire and Shogun 2 both launched with 1 launch faction and those games were fine.
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>>572363626
So you just want everyone to pay for it twice because you dont want to pay it once?
Also
>being a fomo fag
No respect for you, specially in a single player game
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>>572363786
That was a different time
All modern total war games release with a minimum of 6 factions now
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>>572363804
I'm a greedy nasty shit. If they get it for free, I want it for free too. I don't wanna preorder tho, so you aren't allowed to get it for free either.
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>>572363293
Yes
CSM would be free on launch if retards didn't sperg out about le ebil preorder dlc faction. With CA you don't even need to preorder, can buy within a week from release and still get dlc for free

This complaining could only ever result in one, obvious to anyone not retarded outcome. They will withhold preorder dlc faction and sell it separately month later. That way everyone gets what they wanted, no ebil preorder dlc faction and CA gets more money
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>>572363579
Brian Blessed would NEVER
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>you get your preorder faction
BUT
>they're half-baked, unfinished dogshit that won't be truly playable until another DLC six years from now like WoC
Do you really want that?
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I should add some Mournfangs just because they are pretty thematic for my army build
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>>572364317
Yeah? Chaos are the generic bad guys you kill, who cares if they are a fully realised faction? They exist to be shot by 1000k lasguns.
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>>572364317
Yeah, we need more factions ASAP
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Nagash news?
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>>572364317
Unironically yes, 40k will be repetitive as fuck until we get 7-8 factions
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>>572365079
Space marines are already dozens of factions
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>>572363558
>Vote for your 4 favorites Space Marine Chapter to add
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>Spacemarinemanniii (green, blue, black)
Woooooaaaaa
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The worst part of 40k isn't going to be the lack of factions, it's going to be everyone realizing that tabeltop 40k is bland as fuck and it was Dawn of War's own unique gameplay vision that elevated the setting beyond bland napoleonic warfare with Linemanii (empra) vs Linemanii (elf)
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>>572365545
Thats your opinion anon
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>>572365079
>First 6 DLC factions are all Space Marine chapters.
I CAN'T WAIT!
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What if TW:40k revives /vtwg/?
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>>572365161
Lmao
Sad to know that marinefags unironically believe this
>my dudes are totally different from your dudes because they have a different OCD and wear pelts!!!
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why didn't they remaster medieval 2 like they did with rome 1? i would have been interested in that
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What if the revival of /vtwg/ makes us car about TW:40k?
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whoahhh
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>>572366109
>why didn't they remaster medieval 2 like they did with rome 1?
Small family company.
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>>572366109
Same reason they added things to the phone versions of Empire and Napoleon that never made their way to PC
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>>572366127
>>572365832
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>>572366163
Nice
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>>572366394
devastated that they passed away ;-;
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>>572366506
Were they cremated or recycled?
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>>572366506
same
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>>572366506
They made their last phone call
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total war /biz/
https://youtu.be/UGnbiBDmuBI?si=PvR8gS3mOiAfx5EY
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Next official Total Wars:
Total War: Middle east
Total War: Elden Ring
Total War: beetles vs moths
Total War: CwCville
Total War: Permian
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Intercourse with Chaos babes
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>>572364456
>One unit of Gnoblars
For what purpose?
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>>572368012
>Changer of ways
That is just a convoluted plot to get you to sleep with a man.
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>>572350608
>Grudge Throwers
Your value pick for early armies. AP damage helps maul the armored infantry units your warriors/quarrelers struggle to damage
>Cannons
Counters enemy artillery. Can do anti-large work but I find them rather middling. Your mileage may vary.
>Organ guns
Great against multiple-model large like cav/monstrous infantry. Add exploding rune to make them nuke normal infantry as well.
>Flame Cannons
The ultimate anti-infantry artillery for dwarves. Despite them being non-ap, they'll vastly outdamage Grudge Throwers due to their ridiculously high base damage.

It really depends on the rest of your army. You cant go wrong with couple Flame Cannons, but beyond that you need to look at the rest of your army composition.
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>>572350608
For 90% of the campaign, Groodge Throwers and Cannons

Lategame you can switch the cannons and most of your ranged units for Organ Guns

Flame cannons are too expensive for shit range, you need the Groodge Thrower for sieges
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>>572366506
quick rundown?
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>>572367934
>Total War: beetles vs moths
That's just Empires of Undergrowth
>Total War: Permian
KINO
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>>572351092
>>572368809
>>572369249
Alright so, spam grudge throwers early, organ guns late, and maybe flame cannons?
Also does replacing ranged with organs include the thunderers and stuff?
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>>572369414
Covid gottem.
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>>572365079
Imperial Guard, Eldar and Marines are """Good"""
Eldar and Marines are hyper elite
This is why I believe no more good factions are needed for a longer while. And we need more horde or at least less elite factions. There should be more hordes than elites

Nids and Necrons are the most important because of this. CSM will be first race dlc unfortunately, and even though slightly less elite since they can field some Cultists and Traitor Guard, they can also field CSM only.
I hope they will at least make Norsca-like Lost and the Damned for now, a faction of low tier CSM units essentially. Unless until they are overhauled into proper LatD once that is reintroduced in 40k
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>>572370674
>Necrons
Why? Necrons are always gay and annoying. Their gimmick of regen is going to be cancer to fight against.
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>>572371136
Evil
Xenos
Hordes of enemies
Huge variety of units to milk with dlcs
One of the most popular factions in game
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>>572370527
I almost never have more than 4 artillery pieces. You really need to protect them as dorfs being so slow they are real easy to flank unless you corner camp.
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>>572369249
>Flame cannons are too expensive
who tf cares
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>>572372625
Minmaxers
2 moderately priced armies can take twice the number of settlements that your gay doomstack facerolls
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>having income problem as dorfs
lol lmao
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>>572372784
its not a race faggot
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manlets should have 2 stacks tailing one another at all times
one general purpose stack, ironbreakers on front quarrelers and organ guns behind
one artillery fuck you stack with some infantry reinforcements and gyrobombers
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News is coming soon, right anons?
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>>572373808
Literally tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6O3mv_O7rA
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>>572373808
Nothing we don't already know.
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>>572373808
these "nothing ever happens" memes are very creative sometimes
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>>572374395
>these "nothing ever happens" memes are very creative sometimes
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>>572340115
How shit and miserable are the jungle bits of the Southlands for non-Lizardmen? As much of a deathtrap as Lustria is or not?

>Where would you choose to live among its many colonies?
The one in Bretonnia.
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>>572374395
It is the wisdom of the ancients
This has all happened before and will do so again and again, that makes it nothing
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>>572376543
Overall, I believe it's a tad less bad, when compared to Lustria.
When it comes to Lizardmen, Leopoldheim suffers the worst though. They get it as rough as any other colony is Lustria, where all exile prisoners have to co-operate together with imperial authorities to fend the lizards off. Sudenburg is on a better, more fortified position I think, where you only begin fighting the local fauna, Lizardmen and Savage Orcs if you venture deeper into the jungles. Mangrove Port may receive the least attention from the Lizards.
With the two later colonies, you'd also have to Undead to deal with...
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Tomorrow will be either:
1. The reveal of Glottkin
2. The reveal of Thanquol

Place your bets.
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>>572378767
>it's all happened therefore nothing happens
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>>572260781
will be as good as WH1 at launch, might be a little better depending on campaign mechanics and customization stuff.
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>>572260781
There has been at least one thousand attempts at making a good 40k game, and every one has been shit. It's a safe bet to say it will be shit.
>but what about
Every one has been shit. You may enjoy eating shit, but that doesn't change that it's shit.
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>>572379645
Neferata.
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>>572368086
Thematic. They are a little helpers for cooking
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>>572380418
They already said they won't show her tomorrow. My vote for stinky.
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>>572380418
was right!
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>>572380418
Gross.
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>>572380398
I feel sorry for you, genuinely.
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>>572380854
Based.
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[X]Doubt
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>>572371495
Necrons are horde-adjacent though
Necron warriors and scarabs are hordey but all the rest not really
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>>572389578
AR still thinks it's old Malus power level
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>>572390010
None of those guys have magic attacks, so the ward save loss should be insignificant, nor do they have antilarge and it's a level 24 malus.
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I don't understand when to make undercities or when to just take settlements like normal
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>>572380398
You're by far the most literate person with Down syndrome I've ever met. You're cool in my books anon.
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>>572381149
Then I hope for Thanquol but expect Glottkin.

I genuinely have no idea why people care about the Glottkin.
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>>572392113
I don't really care which it is, it's just my gut says nurgle (got a diarrhea right now as we speak).
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>>572391819
just take settlements, cults/undercities/whatever are not worth the effort

well, deeps and coves are worth it
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Just started a Baktria campaign in DeI and immediately my provinces have like -20 public order every turn. What the fuck is this?
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are aspiring champions still trash?

>>572393483
you're hellenistic but your provinces ain't. also by default, DeI has public order penalty if an army is garrisoned, which I think is dumb
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>>572393791
>are aspiring champions still trash?
if you play undivided they're literally the best unit in the game
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>>572393991
Even without research buffs they're great.
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>>572393791
WH3 AssChamps are quite decent out of box, they also have a very good monogod buffs tech tree. Undivided faction versions tree have way more buffs for them, that's why some call them the best unit in the game, they will have everything a huge melee unit ever need.
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>>572393991
>>572394646
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>>572391819
The answer is technically never, everybody hates you and even in a situation where you have a neighbour who has lots of enemies he hates and likes you for killing someone off being a human skaven and him being the computer he will rapidly resent you and make peace with his enemies gradually to fight you. As a human player chaos factions will generally not ally with you like they would with computer skaven. The only real option that works is having ogres as a neighbour as they have a much higher tolerance for you their empire can be a buffer for undercities to spread farther out. Ogres can be very inconsistent neighbours and get fucked by the ai constantly and obviously only the LL factions will be able to last against other LL's.
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I think undercities are good if you use the special hero action to make them far away, in a place you're not expanding to.
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>>572369414
quantum immortality activated
they reincarnated and will reemerge from the masses in several years
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>>572391819
only time i make undercities is when you get the ritual engineer
i usually send him out to meet other factions and then plant an undercity under a rich city whether that's naggarond, altdorf, zharr naggrud, wei-jin, lothern, quintex, galleon's graveyard, writing fortress, etc.
otherwise i don't think it's worth the effort. also your engineer capacity is low and is your movement range hero so i don't think it's worth taking them out of your army
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seriously is there any reason para bellum is hated by a few anons here? And if yes, what's an alternative for a Rome 2 mod that's like vanilla++ ? Feel like playing Rome 2, don't have the patience to wait fro the mars juniper whatever update since it'll probably take months, or a para bellum upcoming update, which will also take months
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>buy almost every DLC
>only enjoy playing Franz and Archaon
lol
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>>572398971
>buy literally no DLCs
>greatly enjoy most of them
lmao
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>>572394879
the only thing that can meaningfully threaten Aspiring Champions with most research buffs online is high level lords and endgame artillery. Perfect Vigor + Poison + Frenzy + Regeneration + the stats they have out of the box means anything they catch in melee is fucked
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>steal games on the internet
>the company that made those games goes bankrupt
>no more good games to steal
You get what you deserve
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>>572340115
>https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sigmarsheim
>The young people of the village, have a tradition of going to the Empire for a year or so when they reach adulthood and of bringing back a spouse.
>many visitors are told the whole settlement feels like it could have been picked up from the Great Forest and put down in Bretonnia.
Yeah, I'm definitely picking that. Sounds fine.
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whats the appeal of archaon
I feel like the roster has 0 cohesion, I enjoyed playing beastmen destroy civilization run, but there's something off about playing chaos for more than a few turns
the roster feels like a weird mish mash of random shit when playing WiC
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>>572398692
>seriously is there any reason para bellum is hated by a few anons here?
I can't speak for the others but I don't hate Para Bellum, I just think DEI is better in every single way. If you only want to play a Vanilla++ mod for Rome 2 and don't want to fuck with the submods that make DEI more arcadey, go for it.
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>>572403778
>whats the appeal of archaon
destroying kislev and the empire, except they're already destroyed by the time you get down there

my last archaon campaign I fought other chaos factions more than anyone else
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>>572403784
I tried fiddlign with DEI and its hard to get it the way I like it, the battles are way too slow by default, I use faster battle submod, they feel too fast, is there a collection or a submod or something thats specifically made to make it feel like vanilla? thats why I like para bellum, it feels like vanilla just with more stuff, and one of my fav things about rome 2 which is visual unit variety with almost each soldier doing his own thing with his shield etc
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>>572405010
I don't think there's any mod in-between faster battles and base DEI. Just enjoy Para Bellum anon, it's fine. Not every mod is for everyone, for instance even I'm not autistic enough to enjoy EB2.
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>>572405441
the last time PB was updated was 2023, I've already played that, but a big patch is coming
between this and the upcoming rome 2 update its prob best to wait... or give DEI another try for something newer
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>Reikland lost to Lizardmen in divegrass
LL for feel?
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What's the most humiliating defeat you have suffered?
I think my one was playing as Empire and fighting against Grom after Bretonnia got steamrolled. Attacked his main army all of it, except Grom himself. Whether he was overpowered at this point, or just dumb luck, I surrounded him with every anti-large infantry I had and even had handgunners taking shots (although there was obstructed views). He got more health than he lost. About five to six infantry units got routed by one fat bloke while being surrounded. I attempted the battle multiple times.
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>>572408726
after I saw the milkandcummies webm I don't think I can count any defeat I've suffered as humiliating anymore
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>>572408726
>>572409082
I saw the beastshitter Taurox screenshot
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How do you confed other LLs as HE now?
>Page 10
Grim
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>>572417012
grom even
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>>572408726
I don't find defeats in warhammer capable of being humiliating because it's so full of MMO type of bullshit with active lord effects, spells and all kinds of random army deleting garbage. I remember fighting Vlad and deleting most of his army with artillery before it got close, then he tanked a 20 stack and won cause of his regen.
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>>572417012
With the new Patronage mechanic.
You need to be Phoenix King Favor lvl 5 (the bottom-left bar in pic) + have control of the 2 Patronage seats linked to each Faction (Avelorn require only 1 and for Aislinn you need 3 "High Elves special-port")
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>>572403778
He is a cav dude so you can bring a cav army. It's bretonnia but not shitty. I think nurgle horsies were the best.
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>>572379645
Could be Moonclaw. but I hope Glottkin as he would be the single most bullshit and over powered LL ever.
>Master magic user like a wizard lord du to the magical brother
>Master melee fighter due to the fat melee brother
>Atop a giant greater daemon LL (With his DLC LL buff)
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>>572423237
i thought it was confirmed to be moonclaw
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That tiger DLC was so fucking pathetic. I can't believe people ate up CA's table scraps like that.
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>>572424864
He might have been a flc for LOTET, maybe. He is a character pack dlc tier, being Moonchild and all.
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>>572425332
I loved it
what now huh? You gonna cry? You gonna cry little bitch ? Huh?
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>>572425332
I think it's awesome. I was finally able to play cathayan airforce thanks to the new stuff. Next I wanna try cathayan cav army.
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>>572425332
You lost, Legend, go back to balding.
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shartkhan the black
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Has Shogun 2 been fixed yet?
I remember people saying that the game had big balance issues, with spear samurais being shit compared to the "weaker" spear soldiers, while the naginata monks lost the only thing that naginata weapons had, the high armour.
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>>572434959
>Has Shogun 2 been fixed yet?
nigga what
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>>572435104
I'm sorry, am I speaking too fast for you?
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>>572435221
are you expecting shogun 2 to get some sort of patch?
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>>572435313
Sometimes, miracles happen. Just sometimes.
And also community patches are a thing, like for Deus Ex, Stronghold Crusader, Warrior King Battles...
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>>572403778
He is so bonkers op that any army you bring that is chaos warriors or above will melt everything in the game, enjoy burning the world anon
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I keep forgetting archaon is a caster
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>>572436136
>he keeps forgetting that archaon is not only a caster but also first in the arcane
Hah!
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>>572435474
The only CA work on shogun 2 in the last decade was removing FotS so they could resell it as a standalone game
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>>572434959
what is there to fix? that's just shit balance like every tw
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>>572435313
>>572438205
To be fair to that anon, Rome 1 and Medieval 2 have community patches. Anything can happen. That being said, I don't think anyone is going to be doing that on a game that uses the modern camera controls and keybinds. It is foolish if he's waiting on something official, though.
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>>572438205
it was always like that
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>>572438205
There was also that patch that removed ashigaru sex chat and somehow broke the audio.
>>572438806
It was retroactively rebranded as a Saga title because at that point the Saga 'brand' was a laughing stock. Still is.
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>>572438754
>It is foolish if he's waiting on something official
THEN I WILL BE A FOOL
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>>572438961
>>>572438806(You)
>It was retroactively rebranded as a Saga title
yes, but you could always install it on its own
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>>572439053
Yet they removed the ability to download it as a shogun expansion which is what the original post was referencing
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>>572389578
That's how it should be. Elves should have less troops per unit and so on, but still be stronger.
Those Lotr mods do it right.
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>>572393483
Speaking of DEI, are there any good Rome 2 mods that enhance the visuals, add more factions and make things look more historical, but don't add pointless and annoying campaign mechanics?
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>>572441201
Tbh mono god factions are also fairly elite outside of marauders.
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>>572441336
>but don't add pointless and annoying campaign mechanics
Just download Radious, it sounds like it fits you faggot.
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>>572390974
magic attacks don't do anything against ward save
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>>572391819
It's a completely orphaned mechanic, just like how Skaven 'hide' in ruins despite the fact the ruins have Skaven corruption and regular Skaven army activity.
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>>572441514
>Radious
That's rebalance mod, as far as I can tell. My whole point is that I care less about campaign mechanics and more about visual historicity and more factions to play. I mean, if they also made battles more realistic, that's fine, but imo it's not really possible with how the games work.
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>>572441894
Skaven should have been like WE, also they needed to re-add exploring ruins for buffs, money and items like in WH2 for it to make sense.
Undercities are expensive but all you to eventually take over a captial city and make it a 8 building slot city for the skaven. With huge garrisons but you don't really empire build like WE, small garrisons in minor settlements focused on feeding the central major city. So when the player finds ruins that are a skaven stronghold its a serious surprised and problem,
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>>572442068
If I were to remake Undercities, I'd have Skaven be more like the Changeling where they are banned from real settlements (with the only exception being Skavenblight and maybe Eight Peaks) and have to live in actual ruins or underneath another empire they've subverted.
Instead Skaven are this weird stealth faction in a game where nobody ever sneaks up on anyone.
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>>572442193
>>572442068
that sounds awful
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>>572442059
Then download any of the various reskin mods out there (the HD series for Rome and Legendary Empires series for Gayreeks and Persians) and a faction unlocker bruh, I don't know why you're phrasing it like you want an overhaul.
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>>572442248
What we have right now is awful.
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>>572442285
what we have right now is 90% normal, which is good enough for me

CA doesn't know what the fuck to do with asymmetrical factions
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>>572441336
Para Bellum is for u bwo, I just tried yet again DEI and I settled for PB, hoplite unit in DEI was surrounded then lost 10 troops over the course of 2 mins when surrounded that's when I said this mod is retarded, PB keeps vanilla combat speed n most mechanics while adding cool units skins etc
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lol para bellum's models look like ps2 models compared to even base dei's models, meanwhile dei also got the actual reskin mods because it's not shit
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They weren't kidding, these lizards were real dicks to deal with
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I'm still missing Sayl, Aislinn and Skulltaker. They're not really factions I play too often and not individual characters I care much for. Are any of their campaigns so good or their units so fun that it might change my mind?
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>>572444125
Too bad the gameplay of DEI is dogshit
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>>572447010
if only they made submods to make the combat faster specifically for bitches like you
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>>572447529
but the combat speed is never just right
anyway here's velites n prima cohors or whatever para bellum I'll now try to screenshot em in DEI
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Is it true? Is the Day of Thanquol drawing close?
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>>572445804
Skulltaker is so fucking overpowered while also stuck in the neo-lustria bowel which isnt very fun. I finished a campaign with him in under 40 turns while not trying very hard.
I havent played Sayl or Aislinn either beyond like 20ish turns to try them and getting bored
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>>572447701
>but the combat speed is never just right
the faster combat submod is basically as fast as if not slightly slower than attila, if someone hates base dei battle speed i don't see how the faster battle submod wouldn't be the correct speed unless they really like rome 2's speed specifically which has always been the worst of both worlds in my mind
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>>572447701
i don't fuckin know which DEI unit is supposed to be the cohors with separate shield colors, since in this mod they're all stanradized but here
rome 2 in general always looks much worse than i remember btw every tiem I boot it up, this is on max and the ground has ps2 textures, attila looks so much better
the units look better in DEI model wise thats facts but the gameplay in PB is still way more fun

>>572447843
which one are u talking about cause theres a bunch
there's "dynamic" which claims to be closest to vanilla, that one?
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>>572447701
>>572448035
then again theres some stuff i prefer like the shield deisgns on the velites look cool in PB
its funny DEI which is the more history focused mod gave them all wolf caps while PB tried to keep it more "realistic" by having only a few of em have that tho
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>>572448035
>there's "dynamic" which claims to be closest to vanilla, that one?
yes. closest to vanilla always felt like a misstatement to me, it feels faster than vanilla, but if someone likes the original rome 1 battle speed i don't see how dynamic isn't a good submod
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>>572448035
>>572448035
>rome 2 in general always looks much worse than i remember btw every tiem I boot it up, this is on max and the ground has ps2 textures, attila looks so much better
oh there is "extreme" above ultra I'll try that
but yeah this game is so FUCKING UGLY when you're not used to it, I booted attila and though its dark and grim, it looked fucking great
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always kek @ these guys
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>>572447718
Soon
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>>572447718
What's Thanquol's schtick? What will his army be like?
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>>572449245
balloons i think
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How much do you think Thorek and Malakai hate each other?
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>>572449245
Since he'll release with stormfiends he'll probably have support for those.
If Verminlords are in as a unit instead of or alongside lords them too.
Beyond that he's the supreme spellcaster among skaven.
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finally got some non-shitty artillery, exploding ammo + accurate, hell yeah
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>>572444125
Then just make a version of DEI without pointless shit that just makes campaigns more tedious.
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>>572450131
if basic mechanics like population and army supplies is too big brained for you, you must only play base rome 2 and warhammer lmao. don't worry, there's a mod to disable those features and bring it to your iq level on the workshop.
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>>572452002
nta but its not that they're hard to figure it its that they make the game way too slow and a slog, pressing next turn while shit builds up isn't exactly engaging, and I say this as someone that's a fan of the old games' longer campaigns, the systems existing is fine, the way DEI does it though where the AI doesn't care at all and you're the one that has to spend a lot of time just waiting isn't
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>>572452202
some people like slower campaigns instead of rushing shit as fast as possible which is now why we have adhd level campaigns in warhammer. i don't get looking at a mod that is the spiritual successor to the very slow EB and wears it on its sleeve and getting mad at it, especially when DEI is probably the most submoddable tw overhaul of all time. there are mods to make the ai use the population and supply systems if you want to see them flail about and implode and there's submods to disable limiting mechanics, speed up the tpy and research and speed up the battles.
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>>572452489
yeah i think warhammer takes it way too far and the garrisons are just a joke, getting 2 provinces per 3 turns is bullshit, but so is it being THAT slow, need to try playing DEI with submods sometime but its also partly like the burden of choice, they need to make a retard proof version of DEI thats like "just extra content, almost as fast as vanilla campaigns" cause rome 2 campaign pacing wasn't as crazy as warhammer, it was k
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>>572452717
next time you play it try a 2py mod with halved research speed, and the mod that lets you disable the population and supply mechanics and you might enjoy it more on the campaign layer. those two mods alone plus the mod that disables public order loss when garrisoning armies probably turn it into a fairly close facsimile of rome 1's campaign speed, if not rome 2's
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THIS FUCKIN AUTORESOLVE MAN
for any offensive fight just forget it
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interesting bug
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>>572453680
That's just Luthor, he got confused as to which Total War he was supposed to be starring in, just carry on, he'll find the right game.
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>>572453373
That's why they changed it for warhammer. Glad I can see what's gonna happen.
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Being a former imperial nobleman brought low to bottlefeeding beastman calves
This is my warhammer power fantasy
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>>572457559
fucks wrong w u man
sounds like a woman fantasy
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Post yfw thanquol is finally revealed as the secret lord
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>>572457990
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>>572457559
RAAROO
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>>572457990
Secret lord?
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Does Boris really have to start with regen? This is annoying af..
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>>572159436
>The island of mata nui....
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>>572457682
Why would a woman botttlefeed her children, are you retarded
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>>572459751
to have more time to fuck chad
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>>572459751
not the part about feeding
the part about submitting to beasts
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Good discussion, lads.
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THREE HOURS UNTIL NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/live/Q6O3mv_O7rA?is=WpBSVTG_J3pMYwQT
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>>572425332
Nobody did, it's the worst selling dlc
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>>572460916
>not 40k
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finally, jesus
resilient fucks
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>>572460095
Submitting to beats is NTRkino, it happens to imperial men when the noblewomen of their town open the gates to the brayherd and they're forced to watch their wives and daughters bred by the beasts and serve them as slaves.
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>>572425332
It's just 5 euros and I will support having more furries in Warhammer.
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>>572461349
thats a niche event that almost never happens and when it does the beasts get purged within the week
beastmen are scared lil bitches hiding in their forests
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>>572460043
Do you think bottlefeeding takes less time than breast feeding?
>>572461349
I hate cuckholds so much.
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>>572461349
severely indian coded post
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>>572425332
I found it fun, gives Cathay a melee rush and sneaky cunt playstyle, and the tiger warriors are just cool af.
My only problems with the DLC was that Bhashiva starts in a situation where you're gonna be facing a lot of ogres and dragon ogres and the basic tiger warriors are anti-infantry instead, and that the Zhao Ming demands mechanic is fucking schizo and constantly demands you go kill or conquer something on the other side of the map as a landlocked faction with no fast travel mechanics. But Shang Yang points are so damn easy to get anyway that it really just serves to delay your campaign victory a bit.
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>>572380398
Space marine is....ok
Darktide is fine
Battlefleet gothic armada 2 had the potential to be one of the greatest 40k games of all time, but they screwed the pooch with forced narrative campaigns one you have to fucking pay for.
DoW Soulstorm and dark crusade are legendary, but those games had flaws that you need mods to dig them out of the dirt with.

The best 40k game in my humble opinion is gladius relics of war. It's got faction variety, strategy, and decent enough atmosphere. You might need a dlc or mod to get it there though.
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>>572380398
>>572461773
dawn of war 1 is still the best dawn of war
kino linear story, perfect for setting into the setting, there's now definitive edition that updates it + soulstorm + dark crusade, no mods needed, great experience
I haven't played the bajillion xcom/crpg/diablo knockoffs 40k games, but there are tons of good games, dawn of war being the best, there's even boltgun if u like FPS
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I always suicide my flies cause they suck ass.
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cozy ass city
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>>572462313
I thought I was just using them wrong, always felt like I was going out of my way keeping them alive and never really able to use them as elite flying cav
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>>572460916
It's gonna be fire dragon with a reskinned thunderbarge airship
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>>572380398
They're not, it's just your idiotic opinion since you have a hate boner for the franchise. You never define what makes them bad you just assert that they are.

Space Marine 2 is a huge success
Dawn of War 1 is co sidered a RTS classic
DoW 2 was aslo good
Battlefleet Gothic games are good
Chaos Gate Daemonhunters is good
Gladius relics of war and Battlesector are good
Rogue Trader is good and has sold more faster than their previous CRPGs with even the second season pass selling better than first

Pretty much everyone agrees and no amount of steam chart faggotry is gonna constitute for an argument.
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>>572462850
Nah, they really just suck huge cock. With their mass they can insta delete even chosen on walls cause they throw em off but that's about it. They suck.
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2 hours until news. What are your
>hopes
>fears
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>>572463218
>Gladius relics of war
is that the civ 40k
kinda wild how most of these games are just the 40k version of other games lmao
but yeah a lot of em are decent
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>>572463363
>hopes
Shadowdrop Nagash and Neferata, other lords are canceled
>fears
>>572462981
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>mfw realizing that Nagash and Vampire Lords are just cope Dark Elves for people that are too insecure to play Dark Elves.
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>>572463363
>Hope
Glottkin
>Fears
They fuck him/them up and the model is kinda trash or his gimmicky campaign is boring from being too overpowered. Tamurkhan is strong but at least hes fun, hope they dont fuck it up with Glotty.
>fears 2
Its just Thanquol. I dont like playing rats
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>>572463363
Don't care, am playing WH3
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>ratfag pic
>retarded nonsensical post
Name a more iconic duo
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I'm hype for 40k. Abaddon looks cool af. Is he strong?
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>>572464465
He's a jobber
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nurgle fucks
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>>572463756
why would being insecure effect who you play
i am always between the vampires and dark elves, i wish vampire campaigns were a little harder, it is only difficult to resist sweeping the map with endless zombies
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WOW, a hecking Tomb King reference
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>>572464513
U weren't lying.. this guy sucks ass
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>>572465010
Disturbing lack of Red Prince in your party.
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>>572465117
More like Red Chud
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>>572465445
This is a ligger general.
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>>572463218
>gladius
>good
lets not get ahead of ourselves
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I'm just going to take this gyrocopter unit here...
...and put it in Thorek's army.
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>>572461309
I celebrate any end times news because once this dlc is out it will be full on 40k shilling
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>Franz can't just get off his horse in battle he has to be effectively not in the army during a siege because... just because!
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>>572380398
40k is both the Titan and a Savior of gaming
Only games worth playing and waiting for are 40k games
Strategy and Tactics games are completely cornered by various 40k titles
Rogue Trader is the best cRPG ever made and only Dark Heresy has a chance to best it
Either Darktide or Space Marine 2 are the best action game ever made
TW40k is already bound to be the best Total War ever made
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>>572467265
Went too hard with the bait
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Will the Sisters of Silence be a faction?
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>>572467889
They are the Gnoblars to the Custodes Ogres
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>>572463343
I find them great for that exact reason. Field battles are autowin with Chosen, but sieges can grind them down somewhat. Rot flies delete anything on walls. They also detach artillery crews instantly from their engines on charge thanks to throwback whereas furies take some time to do that due to lack of mass. They are serviceable and have their role, but they arent super op.
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>>572462091
>linear story
Games should be judged as games. 40k fans have this ugly habit of memeing one thing about the setting and then executing and supporting the opposite "40k is a setting not a story for you to make your own dudes do stuff" is one such fraud. Everybody says it until corporate makes something and then we find out who actually believes it. If DoW one was any good it wouldn't need several expansions to finally get to. DoW3 is really just a modern version of DoW1 and it was hated. People want necrons, they want Tyranids, they want chaos, they want more than buzzcut warrior hammer say the word "duty" and "emperor" 60 times. I could watch that on YouTube for free

Your ilk is the reason we have games like mixtape that have to player do absolutely nothing and can't lose, because "oh aren't these characters compelling?"
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I will set up a local llm to answer troll bait for me
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>>572464465
Yes. Not insanely so, but he's crafty, tenacious and ruthless as shit. Imagine Wulfrik and Mannfred doing dragonball-fusion into one character.

That said, I will buy the Fabius Bile expansion.
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>>572467975
Strangely accurate.
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>>572469012
only the stronghold battles in the extensions are real battles, everything else is pointless fodder of the worst kind, filler, dark crusade is overrated as fuck, its only praised because muh necrons cool, gameplay wise it and soulstorm are the exact same, 6-7 real missions padded with braindead fodder battles, dow 1 has around 10 missions and they're all good n memorable, if you wanna strawman then your ilk is why there's 10 trillion open ended survival games on steam with 0 substance, even worse than mixtape because a lot of "gamers" actually play only those kinda games and nothing else, real gamers appreciate linear games as well as non-linear
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>>572469312
*and he should be voiced by the Bile trilogy audiobook guy if he's still around working.
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Grimgor or Gorbad?
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>>572469382
also I doubt you've played either dark crusade or DoW 1 in the past 10 years
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>>572440430
Why thumbnail just look like a Skaven variant of >>572457682 pic
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I meant: thumbnail >>572447718 looking like >>572457682
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>>572462825
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>>572470374
>Asur Envoy Irlianmaris Ellarel addressing the kindly old woman attending the main street food stand after being gifted a pretzel, Altdorf 2512 IC
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>>572465010
Beastbros ... I'm gonna RAA-ROO!
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>>572461547
I'm sure that what she said, can't have her fun times ruined after all.
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>>572465010
>>572470838
RAAAAAROOOOOO!!!!!
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>>572461349
I enjoy beastkino because i wish to see the woman debased and mind broken by animals.
You enjoy beastkino because you wish to sit in the cuck chair
We are not the same.
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>>572471802
fake news
old lore
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>>572472026
I enjoy beastkino because i wish to see the woman lost to lust and ecstasy to the point the push the boundaries and cross over from decent behaviour
We are not the same
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>>572472109
Nuh-uh
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>>572472139
kinda based...
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>>572472189
>korean letters
ofc
biggest cucks on earth
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>>572472139
fuck do you think debased and mind broken means?
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How are we doing totalwar bros? How are feeling?
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>>572472897
I have a hangover
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>>572472897
20min till the End Times livestream
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>15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6O3mv_O7rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6O3mv_O7rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6O3mv_O7rA
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>>572472754
Kinda implies to me that you see women on some pedestal and you want them knocked down to be breed by animals and thus beneath you. I just want super honey women that animals hit sometimes.
Its a subtle difference.
stream 15 mins away I hope we see Nagash mechanics and new Vcount units
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Hold on tight, the ride is about to begin.
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>>572473398
Ahhh i see your point but no, when i saw mind broken i mostly just mean it in the 'hearts in their eyes' way not 'dead eyes.... like a dolls eyes' way.
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Today they'll announce the Red Duke as a paid dlc lord part of end times
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>>572473806
Ah I get you anon. We're on the same page after all
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What are the chances of a delay?
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>>572473806
>>572473398
>>572472139
>>572472026
You are both cuckholds
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>>572472897
Hot
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>>572473806
>>572473398
>>572472139
>>572472026
didn't know /twg/ is such a beastial place after all.
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>>572474147
You must be an araby fan, here have some battle camels.
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>legend gone
>first stream in forever with its contents not being leaked a week before
hmmmmmmmm hmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmm hm erm
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Places, people, places!
Its nearly showtime!
Last call for predictions now!
>chaos/nurgle shit
>showcasing a little bit of the end time crisis mechanic shit
>no release date or even a delay announce
>but the next patch comes in a week or 2
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>>572472897
I'm shitting
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It's up!
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Oh it's one of these. I'll come back in 30 minutes for the reveal
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8.1 next week
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>>572474875
Nu-uh!
8.1 next week announced! We're so bcak
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god i hate how british accents sound speak american faggots
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Couldn't care less I'm playing Soulsilver right now
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>>572475079
They're White...
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>Not talking about Siege rework
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SIEGE REWORK BROS, WE'RE NOT FORGOTTEN.
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Siege update is 9.1
No talking about Neferata today
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Guys.... It's happening...
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>v*rmintide
wouldn't know I'd never enable that cancer
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>>572475170
Those are the only things worth discussing. Goodbye.
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>>572475079
i'm not a native english speak and i have to say that birtish accent is ugly as fuck, very gay, i genuinely can't take british men seriously
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>>572475265
>ratted
bros...
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I really do not give a shit about endgames
>>
I have never once played a campaign with the end game event toggled on and I don't think I ever will.
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I don't think I've played vampire counts since WH1
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>>572475440
They'd better add some rewards for defeating the endgame event. It's not like there are any incentives to do so
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Will AI allies prioritize attacking the special dark fortresses and invasion forces?
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>>572475265
Edced is my favorite character
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>>572475628
Archaon sissies need this many buffs to be relevant?
SAD
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>>572469382
The Tau stronghold battle in Soulstorm is fucking gay.
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>>572475732
presumably the endgame faction will declare war on everybody, and most factions will make peace with each other

of course not lmao
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It's Middenland / Nordland / Laurelorn / Hochland area right ?
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>>572475774
now type that again without trembling
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>>572475628
I can (still) take him
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I hate chaosslop
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>>572475891
Archaon-chan will be RAPED
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>>572470374
I imagine Teclis has a guy in Marienburg or Altdorf to "procure" human women for him.
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>>572475873
Yeah, that's the Brass Keep between the hollowed mountain.
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>>572475873
Yeah, I think it's a Karl Franz campaign based on where the quest battle marker is.
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>archaon model still not refreshed into being a cute anime girl
Read the room, CA
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YOOO THEY MADE THE ARMOR TEXTURES SLIGHTLY DARKER
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>>572475873
I think so.
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>>572476093
Archaon is a nigger...
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>>572476093
It does look better though
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>>572476093
slightly more colorful and better quality, honestly all warhammer 1 units need this
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>>572476093
I mean at least it looks better even if the changes are small, most modern game devs who remake old stuff just make it look worse
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>>572475628
Is there any ability that pierces ward save? If the only buff to Archaon's army is that the lord himself gets 100% ward save then it's theoretically beatable.
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>>572476093
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>archaon can confederate ALL chaos factions
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>>572476093
horns got bigger
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>>572476071
>Ar-chan the EverMoe
I'd play it.
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>Archaon now can confederate all of the Chaos factions (Daemon, Norsca, CoC DLC, WoC).
that's good
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>Warriors of Chaos rework
>it's just Troy Amazons with spikey helmets
>Archaon Chaos Invasion End Times rework
>it's just Pharaoh Sea People with spikier helmets
turns out Chaos was the true histoid faction all along...
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>>572476385
smae size, they said that themselves, it's only a texture upgrade, the model is the same
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Sloptubers are so fucking pathetic holy shit, imagine going in to the chat and whimpering about this
>>
SIGVALD MOVING TO SLAANESH
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Uh, ordersisters, you told me Chaos was going to be weak??
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>Sigvald is now as Slaanesh LL
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dead thread, dead game
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>>572476661
okay? who cares
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>current crises will be midgame crises
good
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>>572476774
I care faggot.
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>>572476774
me, I now have a reason to play Slaanesh
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>>572476774
That was a highly requested feature by most of the community faggot
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>>572476385
No, they specifically said they didn't remake the model, they just redid the texture work
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Nothing on Daniel, confirmed for dead in a ditch.
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So is this some kind of... Victory Conditions... Overhaul?
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>>572476774
yeah all posts should be eceleb gossip amirite, who cares about the game
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>>572476998
Nobody cares about Daniel.
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>>572476863
>>572476930
>>572476941
okay.
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>>572477010
yes, every lord will have unique victory conditions
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Then and now.
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>>572475628
looks cool
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>>572476661
>>572476757
>>572476930
You stupid donkeys, they're making Sigvald like Azazel (Slaneeshi-focused faction) instead of him being an undivided lord.
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warhammer 2 end times was har enough for me, fucking try hards already have 100000000 armies waiting for archeon to spawn, no normal player does that
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>>572477010
Change da world.
My final message. Goodbye.
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luthor harkon here
i will now shoot your thread
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>>572477334
Better but I still like the mod having proper rewards, and most of the stuff here is still just "occupy everything around you"
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I want Bhashiva to shatter my pelvis.
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>>572477526
no, this is better
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real luthor here. who actually gives a shit about these victory conditions, looks like they have nothing and are just padding.
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This is so boring man I'm eeping
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luthor harkon here
i will protect your thread... for a fee.
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So they reveal the new LL yet? Who's coping?
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fly bys are coming back
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any demons of chaos... news?
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Tiktaq'to and Taurox new victory conditions.
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VAMPIRE REWORK, WE'RE SO BACK!!!!
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Vamp Cunts you got your crumbs.

>vampire lairs
kek
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>>572477724
it's not boring, these are good features
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Expand Sylvania's borders!
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Vampire Counts are becoming Tomb Kings
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>Raise dead to recruit your normal undead
>Blood kisses to recruit vampiric units
Makes perfect sense. I thought about something similar for a long time.

>Unit caps
Based.
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>>572478280
>Raise dead to recruit your normal undead
that's should be the intended way, even SFO makes it mandatory.
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>>572478256
Good. I hope they get unit caps for armies as well. Chaff should be mandatory in all vampire armies.
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BUILD YOUR OWN VAMPIRE!!!!!!!
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>>572478203
>new corpse resource
oh my god ANOTHER fucking pooled resource
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You mean I have to go and beg some fucking vampire at their hope for the privilege of having them in my army?
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>>572478442
I'll have the 10 year old 1000 year old vampire~!
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vlad and isabella can become both lords
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>>572478442
Daniel 2.0????
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>recycled kyivslev mechanic
lmao
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>>572478280
>>572478374
Then what are military buildings for?
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Can no longer recruit vampires easily, you have to find them. Sounds like the kiselv ice school mechanic. So stuck with master necromancers
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>>572478442
*raises the bust slider to max*

This is my vampire now.
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>>572478442
This is all I really wanted from a rework so I'm happy but I'm sure actual customization will be limited
Gonna need mods to do silly stuff like give them access to forbidden lores
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Sotek is practically cooming from all the announcements.
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>>572478564
and they should buff the necromancer lord too
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FINALLY, THANQUOLFAG IS FREE
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>>572478687
Get glotkinned
>>
It's the Glottkin.
No Thanquol yet...
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>more nurgleslop
oh come on
>>
omg omg i love when they ruin my race with statchecking everything about it i love wh3 updates omg more pls
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>nurgleslop
YYYAAAAAWNNN
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>more nurgle
This setting is so fucking gay
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Thanquol NEVER!!
Lmao
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>Glottkin
Literally who
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Nurgle always win
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Rats cucked again.
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Glottkins legs look a bit bowed.
He's WoC?????
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More nurgle! LETS FUCKING GOOOO
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>NOOOO WHY IS ONE OF THE END TIMES LORDS BEING ANNOUNCED FOR THE END TIMES DLC HOW COULD THIS HAPPPEN
Low IQ is a serious issue in modern society
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NEW
>>572478809
>>572478809
>>572478809
>>572478809
NEW
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>Ratfags IMMEDIATELY seething
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>>572478731
>>572478746
>>572478764
Chaos is the real protagonist
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>>572478820
yes
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>>572478442
>>572478518
Danpire.
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if they ruin coast i will hurt you bad
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>Nurgle: 4 LLs
>Slaanesh: 4 LLs
>Khorne: 3 LLs
>...
>Tzeentch: 2 LLs
Oh.
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>another nurgleshitter
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>>572478746
>>572478764
>>572478731
I legit have Nurgle fatigue.
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>>572478967
it's woc, not demons of nurgle
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Will the Glottkin have their canonical Bristol accent?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pkbh6pUGac
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>>572479556
>Siege giant
Finally
>>
Meh, everyone will just play DE and transform into the Host of the Eternity Kang

Phoenix Guard in front
Shades behind



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