gem editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>572076235 >Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>managed to die on the saturday after skitariiit's over
Chud status?
>>572160283everyone is busy playing so no one had time to make new thread
>finally, I've hit level 30>now I'm Havoc ready
I was considering buying skitarii but then I realized it's like 3/4 the price of Spes Marin 2. Now I'm confused.
>>572160474cope
>>572160502 (me)Oh, I was looking at the wrong price. It's actually $2 more than Space Marine 2.
>quickplay>1/3 chance of crashing at the start of the mission>choose mission>haven't crashed yet
>>572160498he's mastering his weapons and curios duh
>>572160502>why is new release dlc almost same price as heavily discounted gamu?Truly a mystery there pal, so confusing
been a couple of years since I last played darktide are the psykers homing cristals still OP?
skitty's kitty.....
How the fuck did you guys get your Reverant to sound cute? She just sounds like Claptrap every fucking time I redid it, so I eventually gave up. The preview is completely fucking worthless
Bend over for me, Skitten. Let daddy see that exhaust port.
>>572160502Just buy both if you want them? What are you, poor?
>>572161051Assail wasn't OP except for a very brief window after the class overhaul before the flying knives got nerfed. It's my favorite blitz for Psyker but probably objectively weaker than the other two.
>>572161459that must have been the time I played it then been getting an itch to play this again and start a new psyker guess I'll hop on and try something new
>>572131760LOOOL>>572131213>>572132769I personally don’t like how hard he tries and the whole openly heretical bit gets old quick for me
>>572161756>>572161459Assail is arguably op on the low difficulties that many players play at. Its power level doesn't scale as well into harder difficulties, but at absolutely completely facerolls the easy difficulties with zero effort. That can heavily distort player perception of it
>No DRG discussion>No Rogue Core discussion
which class should I play as a BRAND NEW player who is bad at videogames?
>>572146234I'm really enjoying the Anime Girl voice, thank you anon.
Does this work how I think it does?>get a guaranteed crit from True Aim>take out my double barrel>unload both barrels with infinite cleave and apply bleed stacks>every enemy hit instantly quells 4% perilsounds really good
>>572163502of the base classes, veteran I guess. DLC would be arbites
>>572161756The new psyker greatsword is fucking awesome if you like melee. Kill enemies to charge the blade then activate your special to do a moonlight greatsword slash that flies through the air. Aim it head high and you'll clear everything in front of you.
>>572163407unless there's a skit patch next week there's a decent chance I'll be moving on to rogue core
>>572163684As a certified shitter stuck in Heresy I would never recommend Veteran to a self-identified bad player. It's Ogryn or bust from the base roster, because even the Zealot requires you to make some risky plays now and again.
>>572163502Not psyker. Psyker is probably my favorite class but its best talents are in the bottom half of the tree, including the ones that will benefit using your staff. Once you get it to 30 and have all of your skills working together it is tons of fun but can be a bit of a slog until the early 20's.
>>572163407Nobody cares about DRG anymore bro. There is a DRG thread on /vm/ if you really want to talk about it, although it moves at a snail's pace. The current thread there has existed since May 30th
>get to the end of expedition>crash the second masozi appearseven my computer is racist
>>572163502jus b urself
>with darktide we really wanted to give people more power to customize their characters
>>572163854as a not very good player but still stuck in auric, I think ogryn makes me feel like slow as a toilet with legs, swinging a fire hydrant, and having a huge hitbox, I wouldn't recommend it to a new player. vet is way more straightforward and shout is baby mode. but it is an option I guess.
How do you like my Branx fit fellow Skitty
>>572164997pajamas color scheme ahh
>run literally into the midst of huge groups of gunners, shotgunners, and reapers multiple times before using VE>only 3 counted for the penance
>>572164686he cute
>>572164997bro be like>I wanna be player 2
>>572164997based and grounded
>>572165074I'm so glad I got that dogshit out of the way.
>>572165074I zapped at least 100 elite gunners in a mission and despite actually seeing them be electrocuted (I'm aware of the elevation bug) it counted six for the penanceI'm not even fucking bothering
>>572164686is that a fucking githyanki?
>>572164695If he's saying he's a bad player, there is an extremely high chance he cannot precision aim. You have to account for this, that severely limits Veteran to the point of just being a shit Zealot in the hands of someone who can't use a non-horde clearing gun.As it stands, Ogryn has nice meaty melee weapons that cleave hard, and a good selection of guns that don't require the player to be a surgeon.
What blessings do you guys run on galvanic? They all seem kinda shit.
So when they say "charge" are they talking about the Capacitance thing?
>>572165491Opening Salvo + Trickshooter. Trickshooter is there for when I need to lay into a boss.
>>572165673Yes, your F ability.
>>572134464>>572136752Now I REALLY want to see a Tech Priest rediscover this show and try to recreate his own version of my wife…
What's the thing for curios?Is it really just stack 3 of the 20% drops while hoping melk doesn't give utter dogshit every day?
>>572164997does that helmet not come in the blue scheme.
>spend 50k melkbux on curios (200 rolls)>get only 2 17% toughness curios, 0 21% health curiosAhaha. Even after the crafting system overhaul they still couldn't just let us have everything huh? I fucking hate Sweden so much it is unreal.
>>572165870anon... the second one isn't jenny...
>>572165074It doesn't count at level 1, only level 2 and above actually causes them to jam.And you wanna know what the actual bullshit is?if you kill them outright they never get a chance to try to fire and jam their gun so it doesn't count. Arc nades are actually dogshit for the penance since it kills everything short of reapers immediately.
>>572166081It does but I prefer the metal
>>572166692FUCK YOU SWEDEEEEEEEN
New plasma gun mark is shitSee you guys next year when vet gets a new shovel mark (special is mkVII/III flip)
I know they're relatively harmless, but muties piss me off.
>>572165442sure but I had a hard time adjusting to ogryn because a lot of the guns and weapons are just weird as shit and unconventional, and I found the skill tree confusing. It wasn't a great time for me until I learned it. and at worse he'll fall to the loog path.
>>572167389Why do you die to fire while they're grabbing you
>>572167748same reason why explosive barrels are more of a hazard than a helpswedes are evil
>>572166692
do you guys think they'll nerf the claw
>>572168498we'll see on monday with the hotfix
>>572168498Damage is fine since you need to build charges. They will fix the claw not using charges when sprinting bug. We need the other two capstones fixed and arc grenades beefed up.
>launch Darktide>pop-up context menus like the game was made in 2002>launched as "fullscreen" and options are fullscreen and windows, but the resolution is a tiny window and not my full monitor resolution>check release date>2022jesus lol
>>572168498They'll fix the bugIt's not at all too strong
>>572166394True but I still want to see it…
>>572164997NUUUU YOU CAN'T USE NON BRANX PANTS THE MISMATCHED METALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
>>572169619It's the same metal as the helmet
>>572169984Anon I know, it looks fine. I'm making fun of someone who was having an autismo fit the other day when the suggestion of putting different pants with Branx gear was brought up
Whats the best weapon to complete augmetic precision with?
>>572170654I did it with an infantry autogun, took like 2 missions and a half.
1 - I am terrible at directions.2 - I cannot aim. 3 - I lose track of my teammates constantly because I have a onetrack mind and there are enemies in front of me4 - Plasma gun adding a cooldown percentage was too distracting for me to play wellIs there any class in Darktide I could play competently?
What blessings are good on the arc rifle? Is Enhanced Voltaic Arcs good or a meme?
>>572168849>arc grenades beefed upsorry, forum chuds say it's one of the strongest grenades
>>572170953nigga an ogryn irl
>>572170953arbites or ogryn
>>572170953Take your meds
>>572171182it's marginally worse than ogryn nuke but you get 4you people need to kill yourselves if you want every blitz to be boombringer, and boombringer needs to be removed
>>572170953no, stay out of my aurics
>>572171357pretty sure you get 3
>>572170543Oh okay, I havent been reading the thread much so I wasnt sure how people felt about mix and matching
>>572171439true i just played a maelstrom with enhanced blitz and for some reason thought the default was 4point still stands
>>572170953kill yourself
>>572068445No it fucking doesnt you retard
>>572139657>>572139796That’s actual really funny. Lucky bastard.>>572141770Based Votann correction.
>>572171793Mythical squad pull
>>572171357>it's marginally worse than ogryn nukeMaybe for fucking Malice. I am not going out of my way to run a blitz (and a mandatory subnode) that kills 4 maulers from an armor pack. Ironically, if we did get 4, I'd consider it since you basically need 2 minimum for any situation where you'd really want grenades.
>>572171467I mean, that aside you didn't get that it wasn't a serious post from the all caps and reeeeeeing?
>>572171357it doesn't need to be a nuke, it needs to have a use that warrants the resource management. you're either stealing boxes that could go for more useful stuff or throwing only 3 through the entire match.. Idk what tho. but maybe it could recharge every 1-2 minute or so, at least..
>>572172884it literally kills all that maulers and scab ragers in a pack
>>572170953you can do a support zealot book build and just follow the frontline around everywhere
>>572163639drop the bleed
>>572170654Braced autogun and unload in a horde
>shoot the bomber with a galvanic rifle>blue hitmarker, armor partially penetratedWhat the fuck is with this rifle
I keep pronouncing the ch in chordclaw like the ch in chair in my head
>>572175413It's meant to be used with the aimbot ability. That's all. It might not even be the best weapon for that purpose, but that's what it is for.
>>572175504You use words in your head?
>>572171604I don't ask them to make it like boom bringer, I want the to remove the fucking tax nodes
Is putting revive speed on every curio a meme or is it legit?
Every mission I wish this stupid ass game darktide didn't have so many ranged enemies.
>>572175659bro...can you imagine an apple?
>>572175659I hear a voice in my head pronounce the words I'm thinking of
>>572175504I too am a slav
The funny german psyker is the only one that could do a decent WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOM, I wish he would say it on occasion.
>>572175992I can change my head voice to a female voice if I want.
>finally went to the Expedition table to clear the popup waypointi want my fifteen seconds back, fatsharkNOW
>>572176519I assumed most people that have an audible internal monologue could decide what their internal monologue's voice sounded like on demand
>got the curse of malfunction donepenance designed to ruin your gameplayHigh Intensity Damnation seems to be fastest way to level up, got so many downs and death.
>>572176965i did it on heresy but yeah high intensity is the key
>>572176953I mean I also assumed other people could summon a gremlin at their will, but here we are.
>>572160498I once accepted a veteran into my havoc and he had two power 300 weapons and exe stance and kept running ahead and threw my mission. The inspect mod should become baseline.
>>572176980>
Coming back to the game for the first time in like 2 years. Expeditions seem cool but i was really incredibly lost as to what the optimal way to play is. Also is Hive Scum supposed to fold like wet tissue paper at the first stressful encounter? Seems like they're highly mobile and do tons of damage but i always just end up getting raped as soon as i have to clutch or anything.
>>572177147>tfw can't conjure an onahole gremlin
>>572175909it's a solid stat. it applies to more than just rezzing downs, like unnetting or picking up people hanging on a ledge. if i remember correctly with 3 revive speeds you can rez someone in between sniper shots.another way to think about it: if you never ended up needing to revive, you won the game. if you are struggling and someone gets downed, being able to rez them faster might be the difference between a win and a loss.there is not many scenarios where say, no one was downed until the party wiping encounter, and if you just had that extra 36% stamina recovery instead, you would have won.side note: the vast majority of players in auric and below are fucking retards that won't immediately un-net someone right next to them, if you have 3 revive speeds this process is like half a second and you should ALWAYS be doing it over anything else.
>>572177194nigger
Played my first match and really not liking this game>absolutely zero markers to show you where to go, so relies entirely on prior map knowledge/hoping you get a player in your lobby who knows where to go>teammates are clueless, this isn't really a fault of the game but swarm shooters like this exacerbate the problem and being expected to solo encounters designed for 4 players is miserable>Ogryn is fucking obnoxious, they are massive and have huge hitboxes and the Ogryn player in my lobby went out of their fucking way to stand in between me and the enemy swarmsnot really having fun with this game so far
>>572175504is that not how its supposed to be pronounced?
>>572177934I haven't been paying attention to how they pronounce it but I'm pretty sure it's pronounced like cord, just as musical chords are.
>>572177194For me it's WD40K, Skibidi and anything to do with toasters
>>572174727Thanks, I'll try that next if Ogryn doesnt end up working out.
>>572178163oh i would've thought it might be chord with a silent c like horde chord like chair sounds cooler anyway so i'll just keep using that
>>572175413>>572176980Kek
>>572139076Truth >>572137316Hey now, don’t group Miku into that…
>405/500A-almost there... bros...
so is the skitarii class worth buying? also I'm sure this has been said many times over by now but it really is crazy how darktide classes cost 3x the amount vt2 classes did
>>572179460>is crazy how darktide classes cost 3x the amount vt2 classes didTo be fair Darktide classes are obviously way more complex.However that does not take into account that it's a live service game with massive paypig store, new classes were promised to be free and an absolutely abysmal amount of content (including added content since 2022) compared to vt2.
>>572179460The darktide classes are significantly better
>>572179916also>one new class every quarter
Those fucking "anime" sliders don't sound anime at all and instead sound straight-up like shit. What is this bullshit and why are retards slurping it up? It's not even a good chipmunk voice
>>572179460It sucks!
>>572177921>so relies entirely on prior map knowledge/hoping you get a player in your lobby who knows where to goyou're forgetting the third thing: good map design that leads you forward naturally. I think for the most part they succeeded but I understand where you're coming from.>have huge hitboxeshey at least you can shoot through them.I hope you find something else to do though.
>get the ammo back on crits thingy in mortis>with the phosphor blaster on the autoaim buildlmao infinte instakill ammo.God I wish mortis trials had just a little bit more. the runaway powerspikes you get remind me of Chaos Waste in the best way possible.
>>572180838>get the infinite dodge at the cost of capacitance>goodbye capacitance
>>572177921most of the maps are very linear, there's obviously going to be some sort of learning curve in a genre like this, same regarding the clueless teammatesogryn players get better eventually as well
oh the miseryeverybody wants to play skitarii
>>572180736why?
>>572181391and
>>572179460I'm enjoying it quite a bit. All 3 abilities are fun in their own ways. I didn't think I'd like the aimbot or the electric explosion, but Aimbot and ranged build turns the Arc Rifle into an even more OP, screen clearing monstrosity, and Electric Explosion has a fun cycle of:>get right in front of big pack of elites and chaff>pop ability>send arc lightning from fully charged mace into the pile (electrocution debuff seems to facilitate arcs much better than without)
Does anyone have that meme image of Kruber as a gondola with his beautiful hat and moustache? My PC fried recently and I miss it
>>572179434Well done anon, I went from 213 to 340 today. I'm so tired.
>>572182442How did it fryDid you lose everything
>>572177921>so relies entirely on prior map knowledge/hoping you get a player in your lobby who knows where to goDisagree.The overwhelming majority of level have this kind of level design. with only one entrance and exit between "zones" so long as you don't go back where you entered, which is flat out impossible sometimes, then you're pretty much guaranteed to make progress.Now if you're the kind of person who just loops endlessly then no amount of level design in the world can salvage how stupid you are and it's entirely on you.
>>572179434>231/500
>Shock maul mk 3 on skitter
>>572181391is that cat alright
>>572182878>64/500 >after 4 hours
>have 650 hours ingame>typically play auric damnation as my default>somehow so short on dockets that i'm now running +dockets on all three trinketswhere the FUCK is my money rannick
>people complaining about penances>meanwhile i am here spamming chordclaw and having funswedes will fix all the bugs on monday and i will finish the penances within a day
>>572183240so is this shit just bugged on the Arc Rifle or does it have some hidden modifier at lvl 4? Ive been trying out the arc stuff for skitari and the arc rifle rapes but I feel like this perk would be ungodly busted with the discount soldier 76 ability ((haven't tried it yet).
>>572183783>swedes will fix all the bugs on monday... Who's gonna tell him?
Voltaic emitter should go through walls like shriek
>>572183905>>572183240>>572183623cute
goddamnit, you cant hit weaknesses with arc riflewhy did i bother getting all weakness skills while using it
>>572177921>>absolutely zero markers to show you where to go, so relies entirely on prior map knowledge/hoping you get a player in your lobby who knows where to gobait or retardedcall it
>>572184053weak points
>>572177921Maps are effectively linear with a thin venear of having "paths" that you see through after running through each map a couple times. >teammates are cluelessThis persists throughout all difficulties, pretty much, though it obviously lessens by the time you're in Aurics (the hardest regular difficulty).>OgrynsYeah the ones that just stand in front of you in hallways/doorways and block line of sight are cunts. Ogryns are fairly rare though. Probably the least played class by a notable margin.
>>572182442>Kruber as a gondolado you mean that brown nugget thing
>>572182452we can share the burden, anon. give me your steam account. I will carry it just for a little while, so you can rest...
>>572183859Working as intended, I imagine. Even so, that blessing is excellent, even without aimbot ability, but it's especially great on aimbot, you're correct. I run it and Cavalcade for max crits on my aimbot build (+Arcs instead of Cavalcade for my normal version), and I generally don't need to reload if I started combat with a full mag.>>572184053You can, but the weakpoint modifier on the Arc Rifle is garbage. You're better off building for raw damage and crit, which also isn't amazing, but it's still a respectable bump.
Guys I figured it out. I thought I couldnt aim well but it was because I was using the braced autogun.
>>572177921Maps are pretty much linear with a few exceptions where you can take slightly different routes or loopIt's not even different routes, it's just that some rooms are very big and are divided into multiple segmentsUsually you can tell where to go by finding pre-spawned enemies (not the ones that come from doors or hatches, these come from all directions, you need standing enemies)
>>572183783chordclaw isn't even good and it doesn't make me happy
For how hated this game apparently is, the player count is usually decently high.>thats not really a /coopg/ game anonYeah well theres no moba general so fuck you.
>pvpsloppadisgusting
>>572186234hirez let paladins die so they can burn in hell for all i care
>>572186580This but Tribes.
>>572186234they killed smite 1 for this slop
>>572186580This but Global Agenda (and Tribes)
How do people reach 20lvl without learning that you need to stay with a group? Pretty sure not doing that can be deadly even on uprising
>>572187089its super easy to solo carry deadweights up til damnation by simply having level 30 and maxed gear
>thought chordclaw would make darktide a cat game>really it made it a zeus gameshockclick?
can we just delete vent purge and power supply interruption from the game already
>>572183220 i'mFUCKING DYING HERE CALL AN AMBULANCE
i don't get the ratclick/shopclick meme
>>572187817Power Supply Interruption is kino thoughbeit
>>572187839in vt2, you click on the rat and it diesin the beginning of darktide you had to look through the shop for blessings to harvest and good weapons
>>572187975thanks anonei assumed shopclick would've been tied to the awful fomo cosmetics shop
clickclick
>>572178184I wanted a SW droid sounding name but punny and I ended up with WD-4D
>>572160502space marine 2 is vastly overrated. i pirated it and it was okay. the multiplayer is extremely boring and i cant imagine putting real time into it. for everything that i heard, i thought it would do something mroe different from the campaign but its just the same shit. darktide is so much better its crazy. sm2 is like for console normies or something.
>>572187754You walk from point a to point b, encount some foes in between. Really Dorktide is a strand type game
>>572188650for darktide to be a strand type game it'd have to be singleplayer with all of the other players leaving things around the map that indicate they passed through there in their gameyou know, like dark sou-ACK
>>572188083Back before the fomo paypiggu shop and all the crafting system players had to hunt for good shit on the requisition shop, it was dreary. People set up a way to check it from their phones so they could monitor through the day and jump on the game only when necessary, rather than having to boot it up every shop refresh. I still can't believe they launched the game without the crafting system implemented after they just had to copy VT2
>>572189028vt2s crafting wasnt any better
>>572189201it was a hell of a lot better what are you talking about?
>>572189028>People set up a way to check it from their phones so they could monitor through the day and jump on the game only when necessarygod i had shunted this out of my mind because it was that badjust realized i still have the fucking browser extension installed (albeit inactive)>>572189201you genuinely do not know what you are talking about anon, it made even the first ratclick's loot rng seem generous in comparison
it seems kind of silly that melkbux can't be used to purchase unique cosmetics
Should I buy Rogue Trader?
>>572189745Wait for the final DLC so you can play the whole game at once
>>572189745>>572189838agreed, i was doing a 2nd replay when the arbites dlc dropped but got burnt out halfway through, some parts of the game are kind of a slog to do repeatedly
>>572187089there are people in auric who don't push bursters
anyone else rubberbanding like shit on darktide?
>>572190712poop isn't elastic you fuckin' stupid moron
>>572190712I had to give up on playing yesterday. Shit was impossible.
>>572190712I'm constantly teleporting in the game, it feels like I'm playing with packet loss.
>>572190712Not just me then, got it kinda bad last night.
>>572189413>>572189535you literally had to complete missions to collect dust to upgrade and reroll your weapons, that shit was so awful because you couldnt downgrade dust, so you would always had a ton of orange and blue, but never enough green
>>572190561Nothing wrong with thatIf you have enough experience with busters, you know that it's same chance of being exploded into face as with shooting him. Game decides if you lucky for that or not, almost no skill from your side is involved
>>572191096Personally the biggest reason I like darktide more is that books are actually fucking optional, and infact are best avoided, in high difficulties in vt2 every match was interrupted constantly for fucking books and walking around with corruption was a given.
Now that the dust has settled, what class should I main to climb havoc?I have been playing all classes equally and climbed twice to havoc 30, but shitter trench is too exhausting and I couldn't bring myself to continue climbing.Skitarii is obviously the weakest class, should I just focus psyker?The obvious choice is veteran because I can't trust shitters to handle specialists, but nobody clearing hordes is even worse (and yes shitters in havocs 20-30 cannot even play inferno psyker)
>>572191431what? that's one of the worst parts about darktide, books do actually nothing
>>572191535whatever you find most fun because whatever shit teammates are gonna make whatever you don't cover a big problem every time anyways
>>572191630I hate every high difficulty run stopping mid-game to do a shitass jumping puzzle so we can slash our health in the hopes that the end of game roll is slightly less shit, that I don't even need because I have full red everything at this point but everyone still insists on doing it.
>>572191535I'm stuck in the same boat as you and the best teams I've had were when I was psyker and people coddled my sweet little cheeks as I burned everything or when I'm zealot and do the coddling.
>>572191821they want it for the exp so you get more commendation chests for hats
you niggas must have awful builds if you think skitty is bad
you niggas must have awful builds for everything else if you think skitty is good
I'd gap your little asshole in every metric if we played together using my crouching tiger hidden chordclaw build
>>572192101Claw and trans blades is good but not amazing.Electric Arc insane-o man is actually quite strong. I was doing 600-800k damage in my aurics with it.
>>572191925I don't care why they want it, I want to click rats, instead I'm hunting down stupid books, needing to build my trinkets around grims, not using any fun items because the slots are taken up by all the fucking books, I hate the fucking books, i despise them, their utter sidelining in darktide is the best thing it ever did, I reroll melk asking me to get them everytime.
>>572192304you can carry aurics with any class using any talent and weapon combination, the actually strongest classes can carry havoc 40s, there's a massive gap
>>572192304I'm doing 600k minimum with everything in aurics, including meme power swordThat's not a high bar
>>572188514Agreed. I got the complete edition and I regret it now. I was so sure it was gonna be fun but man it just feels terrible. Guess you really can’t know until you play it. >>572190769Kek
>disliking tome and grimoire puzzlesWhat a soulless fucking nigger.
>>572193095I want to click rats. I'm not interested in doing those fucking puzzles dozens of times over
>>572192101Veteran needs the stars to align for plasma to one tap gunners.Skit just needs to be actively shooting things and it one taps, or he can just tag them and noosphere will kill them by itself.Arc skit can make entire hordes and armor blobs disappear at rates that make flame staff psykers blush.Medicae skull makes clutching impossibly easy, literally just run to your hogtied teammates and you win, no dancing in circles for 30 min with a knife.
>>572144475lol>>572145779im glad people are finally starting to catch onto this fact
>>572193347>pick weapon specialist>guaranteed crit on measly three stacks>2 shots from plasma make it hot enough to guarantee crits??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
why do skitarii get autoguns but not lasguns anyway?
>aimbot + galvanic rifleI fucking love this gun so much.
>>572193984cause then he would legit be veteran+
>>572194070lol no
>>572193984A question for the tabletop as well. Pretty sure skitari don't field any las weapons short of emplacements or vehicle mounted..
>>572193347The era of melee vet is truly here
>>aimbot instead of something useful
>>572193483its really funny when poojeets keep trying to accuse white people of being inbred pedophiles when their consanguinity and child marriages are in the 30% range for both in a population of 1.6 billion
>>572193984There's always the humble laspistol I suppose? might be able to do a fun headshot crit build with that.
>>572194167Don't TT skitarii not get autoguns either? The sheets I'm looking at don't have them as a ranged option. Why were they even given autoguns in the first place?
>>572194509they get a couple stub weapons, but theyre better stub weapons
>>572193984Because lasguns are strong and autoguns are weakI'm not sure why did they give skit a las pistol, I guess it's very ammo hungry but they balance shit around malice so ammo shouldn't be a concern
>carry group in one match>be the worst player who constantly needs to be bailed out in the next
Whats the dual blades dump stat?
>>572194991cleave efficiency I think?
Is weapon xp calculated per kill, or is it just a set amount per mission? Does the weapon you use more get more xp compared to the one you don't take out as much but still have with you? Do higher difficulties give more weapon xp? What about player xp?
>>572195131per missionnothing matters besides difficulty for both
>>572160467thought he stopped drawing warhammer
>claw this claw thatSo what Im getting from this is that Skitarii literally only has one good build? What a waste
Give me a good reason I should never take this
Havoc exemplar niggas be like "I get utterly raped by damnation"
>>572197383Claw isnt even the best build lol.
>>572197489Variety
>>572194509Cos literally everyone who isn't Ogor gets them I guess
>>572197489Pretty sure if you're using that keystone you are required by law to use that modifier.Just make sure to stay out of the event lobbies until they fic(lmao) the coherency range, since 1500 kills together with coherency is easy enough, doing it yourself is less so.
no purple keystone got a loot of OOMF for me
Besides missing wounds how can zealot shorten cooldowns
>>572197821idk, I feel like getting 5 ability charges instead of 3 is pretty good oomf.
>>572197383Skittle abilities aren't very good so people with>crushers could be herementality pick up claw and never let goMost skittle weapons handle crushers rather well anyway, with the exception of meme power sword. Arc baseball bat is not great but not bad either.
>>572197893I really like the cd reducing on crit on the far left
>>572197821Flensing is the most set and forget that you dont need to think about. Even more brain dead with the talent to reset stacks on ability use.
How can ogryn increase ranged critical rate?
>>572197893read the skill tree nigga
>>572198086luckybullets counting as crit if it lands sidegrade node
am I capable of making a good build myself or should I be copy-pasting the metaslave builds
Last night I took this with two corruption resist curios and I didnt take the DoT damage from this talent and I dont know how to recreate it
>>572198221because you had a zealot with beacon of purity on your team
>>572198181some nodes and talents are very misleading, it might be worth it to download the enhanced description mod/read some guides to understand what everything actually does, but otherwise you can make stuff that just makes sense and it'll work well enough, even for havoc. this isn't a game where you NEED meta breakpoint knowledge for shit to work, most people don't pay attention to how many buffs you need to hit a new breakpoint on your weapons.
>>572198086Literally just lucky bullet like anon said, it's okay on something full auto but ogryn has very low base crit rate cause they don't want you enjoying that playstyle
>>572198365We didnt. it was all skits
>>572198181Make your own and use it and test things and refine it over timeLooking up and copying other peoples builds is very onions and unfun
Flensing protocols with advanced combat doctrines laspistol is surprisingly fun
Sonichu's blades are great, but the fucking moron who came up with the idea of slowing you down during moveset change deserves to be castrated.
Be honest, is there a reason for melee arbites to use any weapon that's not a mace+shield?
Haven't played in a while, why are Scourgesissies getting utterly mogged by Chadherents in this event?
I can't do Havoc past 20, these debuffs to toughness are just too much, how the fuck do people make it to 40, am I just that bad?
>>572198715Arb maul is a lot more fun to play while being just as tanky. I personally really dont like the shield special.
>>572198715The maul does more damage
>>572198532Is acd the auto aim?
>>572198807Weird, I absolutely love shield's aoe stun with good range. Can't imagine playing weapon without it. It just feels so good
you are throwing if you don't bring the medicae servo skull
I wish Fatshark would release new blessing for preexisting weapons to shake up the meta a bit.
>>572198756buffs are dogshit
>>572182442I don't think that I ever had that one. Sorry.
>>572198759>am I just that badYes
If you quit and rejoin your character should spawn as if he had died.
>>572199289It's over...
>>572199136Whoa there, how are we supposed to make money off adding content to existing classes? Now excuse me while we turn the profits from the paypig cosmetic shop into more DoA game modes and new DLC classes that will never ever get cosmetics.
>>572191096Didn't they eventually fix that? They should have learned from their lesson when copying it for shopclick. Also, weapons were balanced better in ratclick and there was less of a need to have a fully optimized one. Aside from a handful of builds that would benefit from some of the other blessings, the biggest power spike that ratclick had was swift slaying to provide some uptime of slightly faster attack speed. The power gap between a grey weapon and a fully min-maxed red in ratclick was much smaller than the power gap between a grey weapon and a fully minmaxed orange in shopclick.It's partly why a chaos wastes mode would fall apart in shopclick. Starting with a grey weapon and getting random upgrades in ratclick was fine since it wasn't a big deal if you got shit upgrades. But a lot of weapons in shopclick just eat shit if they don't have the correct blessings on them.
>>572198408Yeah, I'm actually considering putting ranged crit rate as a perk on my stubber to get more charmed reloads happening.>>572198756Because increased coherency and move speed sounds nicer than vague fire damage.Of course, the coherency bonus is poorly programmed and instead reduces it(apparently a 0.25 multiplier instead of 1.25), making some people believe skitarii just have a bad base coherency range. So in trying to pick their preferred bonus, they've actually made event stages into a challenge condition.
I see a skittari without blue eye and I know that person cannot be trusted.
>>572194509The swedish work unions browbeat GW into letting them copy-paste the non-canon autoguns onto the skitarii instead of putting in the man hours to give skittles rad weapons instead.
>>572199406You don't? Last I had issue with crashing I always got back to a wound, half health and no nades.
>>572199870>stubber crit rateI've never even thought to try this, I might give it a go too
>>572198026I just wish that servo skull kills (burn dot) counted as my elite/special kills. Servo kills (laser) work.
>>572199964>a skittariIt's looking bleak for literacy in the big '26
How do I know if something is officially staggered when I hit it with my crusher
>>572200426sorry.an skitty.
>>572200441Your improved healthbars mod?
>>572170953Arbite with a dogIt's the certified girl gamer class
>>572200565I'll look into itWithout that how the fuck are you meant to know??
>>572200601Arbites requires way more skill and indepth game knowledge than any of base classes
>"Complete 10 consecutive Auric missions without dying"Whoever came up with this one, fuck you. Fuck off and stay fucked off, cunt.
>>572200668By watching its animations.
>>572199870>>572200336You don't need it. PBB comes back so fast that you can easily use it for instant reloads
>>572158208Guys can someone please help me to attain the femboy voice
>>572200737I got it just playing normally lol
>>572200737It's easy>teammate yon barrels youso long as>silent poxburster ignores your pushyou're good.>spawn into a mission failed screen
>>572200737Easy if you aren't retarded
>>572200741Back to the original issue of not knowing which animations count..
>>572200727Only once you start playing on higher difficulty than heresy and anon is clearly never making it to AuricThe dog will solo the level for you prior to that
I'm free.
Are commissars supposed to know about the first one?
>>572200895See >>572200875 and then kill yourself
>>572201176was it the month of shame?
voices:vet 6zealot 6ogryn 4psyker 6scum 6arbi 6skit 438 voices, 38 VAs, the interaction bloat is accelerating, lots of silent moments with skittles with other classes 100% obese fish can't keep track of all possible interactions between voices anymore and we will get even MORE classes
>>572200875All avoidable desu senpai
>>572201292>38 voices, 38 VAsThat's not how it works
>>572201149THE OMNISSIAH BLESSES HIS MOST DEVOUT.
>>572201292anon... actors voice multiple voices
>>572171182They are not wrong though, arc grenades are extremely strong and kill basically everything caught in the blast except ogryns and boss enemies.And you get 3 of them. Only thing making them less busted is that skittle had no form of grenade regen.
>>572201176There's been four, even if knowledge of the 1st one is super forbidden due to Angron and Grey Knights showing up
>>572201292I don't understand what you're complaining about. or rather why you are even complaining about it at all.Like yeah there's gonna be some interactions that get less attention as the cast grows. So they should just stop making new classes? stop making new voicelines?
>>572201292Skitarii was their chance to ease us into AI voices and they blew it.
>>572201219That was at the end of the first, but I presume morrow's referring to the end of the third war and dukane's question implies she suspects the first war.
>>572201292Fatshael should've just done ubersreik 4 in space for Darktide.There'd be less bloat and characters would feel like actual characters.
>>572201292The female skitari is just the scottish zealot
>>572201483>So they should just stop making new classesnta but yesmaybe 1 or 2 more but we're already at the point where the newer classes feel so much more unique than the base rosterwe need proper revamps for some of the classesmore weapons for ogryn and psyker stavesetc
>>572201461It's kindof an old thing that's fallen by the wayside as impossible to enforce, but basically the imperium used to keep the existence of chaos under wraps for any non elite forces and civilians, which is why they purged the population and all the guard forces after the first war, so the inquisition probably doesn't suppress the history of the first war any more, beyond covering up their monumental embarrassment of what happened afterwords.
>>572201503GW banned any and all AI slopps usage in their products. Yes, even 3rd party video games.
>>572201761Darktide proves that no one really wantd to play mary sue special snowflakes when given a choice.
>>572201761Nah I like having My GuyI like being able to have total freedom of classes instead of the way VT worked
>>572201503Thank god they didn't.
>>572197489if you are using that keystone there is no reason you shouldn't, but I'm unsure whether or not that keystone is the worst oneone the one hand, 15% damage modifier applied in an AoE and even more shocked targets for arcs is very sexy, on the other hand flensing gets you back your charges instantly the second you engage any havoc 40 horde, and redline is key to enabling some pretty silly modifiers>>572201503I would've uninstalled darktide and forgot the game existed.
>update power DI>check the after action report after a mission>My servoskull outdamaged my teammatesLove this little guy
>>572201868In this particular instance it was more about keeping the existence of the grey knights secret and a daemon primarch under wraps>Next you're gong to tell me the Grey Knights are realAnd I don't think the Inquisition is ever going to stop trying to suppress knowledge about daemon primarchs, since that's such a sore subject for the imperium considering the horus heresy.Again there's been three seperate ork invasions on Armageddon so I always took it to just be her going "ok but which warboss?"
>>572198678Agreed. That shit is ass. The moveset change in general needs to be swifter. I'll often just stay in AOE because it's not worth the time to swap, kill one or two dudes, and swap back
>for atoma!Why do most of these characters care about atoma? Most of them aren't even from atoma.
why are they so bad at indicators on stuff like the transonic blades? i only just started using them but i have no clue which moveset i'm in until i start swinging. its hive cums stimm icon all over again.
>>572202103She sounds pretty suspicious when she asks.
>>572202020do you use default reports or make custom ones? i'm too retarded to know how to use this properly so i'm just sticking with scoreboard
>>572199070>you are throwing if your teammates die in supremely shitty areasInteresting position to take. I'll continue not running the med skull on any of my builds, thanks
>>572202186She's a Commissar, she sounds suspicious if she's commenting on the weather.
>>572170953I'd say arbites, keep the dog, maybe on specialist mode or just default. Many have said it before but having a dog that pounces and pins enemies, knocks dogs off you, creates space and is a coherency point is the perfect training wheels.How many hours do you have with the tide games? Because I am talking with 800 hours experience between dark and vermintide 2, so if you're struggling after say 30, that is natural.People here might complain about things being too easy even in higher difficulties, but I am assuming most people here are sporting similar or higher amounts of experience then me.My advice would be stop trying to think about enemies, and start trying to think about objectives, because there is like 2 times you need to kill all enemies to win, and most other times the objective is moving a box, pressing a button or getting to a place.Even that might be too much to handle at first, so pick a teammate that moves forward, and try to keep pace with them, even if that means at times just shoving at enemies and legging it.Getting over the mindset that enemies are something to fight, and instead something to get past takes time, just like all gamesense.
>>572202242I'm not an expert either, but on the default "attack report" clicking on the "damage" row expanded it and broke it down into melee/ranged/blitz/companion/etc.
>>572202259>let me spend a grenade to revive somebodyI didn't put revive speed on my curious for the fun of it.
>>572202186That's how she always sounds, she's a Commissar I don't think Dukane is cleared to know about daemon primarchs or grey knights
>>572202113So? Its still an Imperial world and its what they're actively fighting to save at the current moment
>>572202378Exactly
>>572202378>let me spend a grenade to revive somebodyas opposed to whatwhat else would you spend a grenade on
>>572202480I'd not rely on grenades at all, that's relying on the game to give you grenade drops, and otherwise a waste of a talent point.
>>572202480What else would you spend the talent points on*FTFY
>>572202562If only you started with some grenade ammo upon spawn.
>>572201190What a seething little shitter bitch you are
>>572202480Your hive scum who has the best Blitzes in the game
>>572170953I feel like you people are vastly overstating your inabilities because while all of this applies to me you're probably not being truthful
>>572202401So they have no ties to atoma and no reason to care about atoma specifically. They're not here for the betterment for atoma in general, they're here to kill the heretics that happen to be on atoma.
I haven't seen one single Ogryn player after playing for the past 7 hours
>>572202020>fatshark does a patch of skitarii next week>they accidentally make servo skull do 1 million damage a mission by itself with zero input>they hotfix it so servo skull does 0 damage>break flensing so the capacitance node doesn't work>go on vacation for three monthsAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M HAVING ARBITES FLASHBACKS NOOOOOOOOOOhttps://youtu.be/VM3uXu1Dq4c
>>572202575ThisSkitty is starved for points while drowning in +damage talent optionsMedicae skull is planning for failure and your team to be retardedPutting the point into making yourself stronger is planning on carrying
>>572202679Yeah, I've been sleeping. Still working on my last ogryn penances before I get on the refractor grind.
>>572202609I've rarely seen a situation where having a ranged revive would have made a difference, either you need to clear enemies off them first so your next to them anyway, or there's no danger there so your spending a consumable because your too fucking lazy to walk across a room.
>>572197489it procs constantly if you're in coherency and in auric+. there's nothing wrong with it.
>>572202679I've seen more ogryn players than any other non-skit classWhich admittedly still isn't a lot
>>572202791>iron will is planning for failureThis shit again? I've been using it in havoc, having LoS on the totem meaning you secured the clutch by default is ridiculously strong.
>>572202829It's good for revives after death, where you might be able to fight to the revive room but not shake the massive horde off. Often picking 1 player up leaves them free enough to get the other 2. But in almost every situation where someone was downed in a bad spot a skull revive has just primed them to die again.
>>572202791>Medicae skull is planning for failure and your team to be retardedYou mean what every single person in this general complains about with every other post they make?
swedish vacation time soon
>10 second downtime between PBBs
>>572202791>Medicae skull is planning for failure and your team to be retardedI bet you dont like the concept of emergency hand brakes, either.
>>572203009alternatively, the hive scum uses his grenade that kills the entire fucking room, while I put my new free talent point into the "kill all those motherfuckers real easy" node.Why are you going to bat so hard for the fucking medicae skull? you gonna defend the flamer one next? that one might as well be a gentle stream of piss rather than fire.
>>572202720I'm just surprised they are actually letting the event of their live service game run with a completely broken bonus.
>>572202113This line annoys me so much on my skit, comes out way too often and sounds like shit too. I want to do things for the fucking MACHINE GOD not lame ass Atoma
>>572202791>Medicae skull is planning for failure and your team to be retardedAnd if you are playing with randoms, this is the correct approach.Using one of four charges, even without ever touching a grenade drop makes a pickup when left as the last player easy instead of maybe impossible, or at the very least completely improbable for most players.
is there anything that powers up the skull aside from the thing that increases fire rate for 2 seconds? and is that buff worth the charge cost?
The skit blitzes are all wimpy anyway, so you might as well keep the one that will shoot dogs off you and hack stuff for you. And if you have that then you might as well get the medicae skull because the flamer sucks ass and 4 ranged revives should be more than enough for an entire mission. It also enables you to drop revive speed from your curios. Idk, I'm just not sold on "no blitz" skit builds and I feel like bringing a unique ability to the team is always valuable even if it's niche and some matches you might not even use it. What else am I gonna do, run arc grenade that will kill everyone slightly faster than the claw will?
What skitty skills do I need to grab to recharge electro nades asap, I wanna just try and make these stupid things work even if its mediocre shit
>>572203027>every single personSpeak for thine self shitter
>>572203665It benefits from your Rending. That's it. Noospheric Command is very strong.
>>572203850Skit doesn't have any grenade recharge abilities.
>>572202562>>572202640Not picking up any grenades still leaves you with 4 opportunities for potentially run-saving clutch revives, man>>572202575This is a better argument but honestly iyou're better off not wasting a point on the Artificer Servo-Skull to begin with if your build is that tight. Medicae is easily 50% of the reason to take it in the first place
>>572203963n-nice
>>572203760The only difference between a "no blitz" and a skull skit is that you have to press G to get the same DPS and you don't have access to noosphereThose points are better spent elsewhere as there are simply too many powerful nodes scattered all over the place
>>572203760"No blitz" still keeps the spare gun and auto-hack. Provided you remember to spam the blitz button you aren't missing much with an unupgraded skull. When it comes down to it you're spending 2-3 talent points for the ability to revive at range.
>>572199964the only reason i use blue eyes is because the backpacks always have a blue light. it pisses me off. the backpack should match the colour you pick.
>>572163639hmmm. worth testing it on a greatsword psyker for a quick peril dump while in scrier gaze
>>572203896ironic
Are there any ranged focused classes in Darktide or is it purely a melee game?
>>572204057True, but let's not act like the talents leading up to it don't have some value as well. If you're over on that side of the tree anyway, I think spending a couple of points to bring something unique to the team is not a terrible decision. Maybe not optimal, but it's not like actively dogshit, especially if you're just playing with randoms. It's proven pretty incredible for my aurics so far, what with how often clueless skit players are going down to a stiff breeze right now.
>>572204375Vet but even then you want to learn melee for when shit inevitably hits the fan
>>572204375you WILL have to be doing some work with melee weapons, but yes there is, Veteran is the most upfront shooty boy, get yourself a recon lasgun build going and away you go.
>>572204375Yes there are several. I think every class has at least one viable range-focused way to build except maybe zealot. But the key word is "focused", you will still have to melee stuff and you're going to be weaker at protecting yourself if you've invested heavily in ranged over melee, so it's going to be a rougher learning curve for a new player.
>>572204375Every class splits their time between melee and ranged, some do one more than the other. You are expected to shoot your gun a lot pretty much no matter your class.
>>572204375No matter what you'll need to learn the basics of melee. But a few classes can specialize hard into ranged. Veteran, Ogryn, Psyker, Scum, and Skitarii can get away with heavily ranged focused builds.
>>572204502Hey now, shotgun arbie ain't no slouch either
>>572204451>>572204485So there's nothing that rewards actually aiming at heads from a decent range?The Vet builds that do ranged seem to be mostly recon lasgun where you just hold down LMB in the vague direction of enemies and they die
>>572200737When doing this one I learnt that quitting a match didn't actually end a streak, maybe that one works like this too so you have the option of bailing to preserve progress when things look bad, but of course quitting a malice game isn't the same as doing it on an auric party
>>572204417If you want to support skit then the nodes that share toughness, make you and allies regen stamina on toughness damage and toughness on health damage will give you more bang for your buck than a medicae skull you might use once in a blue moon when someone fucks up so catastrophically that you can't get to them in time.and if you already have toughness sharing then more toughness regen nodes will be better than the skull.
>>572204570Not a real ranged spec without some way to mitigate ammo consumption or have infinite ammo
>>572204592>reconI think you mean infinite ammo heavy las pistol and you very much want to click on heads with thatunless its carapace
>>572204592That my friend, depends on the weapon you pick, some classes have overlap in the weapons they can use, and even recon lasgun will reward managing to hit weak spots, I mean sure you can hipfire it if your a lazy shit but in serious content you should actually be trying to get headshots.and some weapons like the laspistol actaully get better crits from headshots.
>>572204570Arbites ranged option is their dog.
>>572204676>infinite ammoShotgun arby is extremely ammo efficient as long as you remember to load your special ammo, since those all restock from the smallest ammo bin
>>572203665Nah thats 2 second thing is it, I really like it
>>572204756Huh, didn't realize those were free extras, thought they worked just like the combat shotgun's specials
Anyone else use customhud/crosshair hud?sometimes most of my UI will just disappear (like ammo/nades/etc) randomly except for my ability icon, and i can't seem to fix it without restarting the whole game, anyone know why this happens?
>>572201176There's a lot of shit that gets brought up in conversations that none of the characters should know about and IIRC /copeg/ relentlessly mocked it for how absurd it was.>OI HOW ABOUT DEM CALLIDUS ASSASSINS BRUV>EY ANYONE ELSE BEEN DOIN' SOME LIGHT READIN' ON THE CODEX ASTARTES >YA HEAR ABOUT THE HORUS HERESY? THAT HORUS WHAT A CUNT AM I RIGHT FELLAS
>>572204592>So there's nothing that rewards actually aiming at heads from a decent range?There are. Recon Lasgun isn't even that popular, it's just easy to use. There are several head-click options with varying degrees of efficacy. It's pretty intuitive for the most part, like a shotgun is usually a chest-aiming weapon, something like the recon is for spraying, other weapons like the revolver and plasma gun are excellent head clickers. There's lots of fun gunplay to be had, it's just that you don't get to exclusively be the shooter unless you're with an organized team who are communicating and protecting you-- something you'll never experience in most quickplay matches cause people are retarded.
>>572201539they try to be all mysterious with his past while barely any player cares. he's a cool guy and all but I'm not curious about his background
>had an idea for a redline capacitors advanced combat doctrines build>activating advanced combat doctrines doesn't proc advanced power managementfucking WHY
Best class for a full on grenade build?
>>572204823Why does heavy ogryn who is just a a hive ganger know what a kroot sounds like?
>>572202186Can someone explain briefly to a secondary WHY she sounds so suspicious of him in that conversation? I feel like I'm missing some context or something.
>>572203109with a fullauto weapon? I don't have this low as rumbler
>>572204912hive scum has the strongest nadesvet is the class that regens the most nadeseither way you still have to play the regular melee darktide a lot still
>>572204912Vet or dogless arby
does arc maul or shock maul do more consistent electrocution?
>>572204912Vet with a bolt pistol
>>572204941Because there's been four different wars for armageddon and the three she knows about where all ork invasionsSo it's more of a "Oh yeah you were are armageddon? Which warboss?" as a test to see if he's full of shit.
>>572202186that's because morrow took a big 100 year or more snooze, got a bit of head trauma, a bit of sefoni trauma, and then got chucked into grendyl's warbandshe's doesn't know any of the above, maybe has her suspicions, but the word getting around that morrow is a man out of time has engaged her curiosity
>>572205153did that fucking scout punch the ork
>>572205153Oh, but when he says there's only one battle that matters, he means the first one that she doesn't/shouldn't know about?
>>572204941oh I also should've replied to you >>572205168
>>572205032Shock maul only does electrocution if you pick the electrocute on melee crit nodeBut the shock maul special will crit 3-5 times on a flensing crit build
>>572205223pretty sure he tries to either dodge the month of shame with chaos/angron or in general by not naming which precise front because he isn't really an Armageddon guy
>playing skitty>switch to psyker>play like shit>still have way more funGuys, i think the skitarii kind of sucks
Did anyone get the animegril voice to work on skittle? Made it in the creation and used the right background choices and coordinates on the sound screen, still sounds pretty meh.
>>572205223Exactly which probably makes her even more suspicious of him.
>>572205287>he isn't really an Armageddon guyWait what? Is all his Armageddon shit made up??
>>572205424he says he's from there A LOT it's sus
>>572205298Replace psyker with Arby and I feel the exact same>Better pet>Better maul>Tankier
>>572205287He's not dodging on purpose, he's been mind fucked by Sefoni so much that he genuinely doesn't know what fucking year it is, he believes the first war for armageddon is still going
>>572205298Different strokes for different folks, I like the skit a lot aside from it's bugged shit. If they don't get around to fixing Voltaic I'm quickly going to sour on the class just because Claw is going to be so dominant, but the Transonics are really carrying it for me so I'm biased. They are like my perfect weapon, I'm going to be miserable without them when I get bored enough to go back to other classes.
>>572205490Movement also feels faster, despite him being slower than skitty even with buffs
>>572205490>easier>easier>easierlol
>>572205561>mind fucked by SefoniUnfff... lucky bastard.
>>572205452>T didn't listen to the voicelogs in mortis trailsHe's fought on Armageddon alright, just the one he isn't allowed to tell anyone aboutYou get to hear his Commissar falling to khorne corruption and Morrow shooting him in the head, which is how he ends up getting recruited by an inquisitor from back then.
>>572205724>"THE BLOOD MUST FLOW!">"Yeah, about that.">BLAMKino
>>572205724Ohhh that's from Armageddon? I guess I don't pay enough attention, I thought that was something from Nox Alpha, that makes more sense though. It's been kind of hard to fill in all the blanks but understanding what went down on Armageddon is contextualizing a lot about Morrow for me rn
>>572205695>Pet can leave you and actually go off and kill that annoying bomber three post codes away on his own>Maul stunlocks infinitely as long as you click on heads and destroys shield niggers with raw DPS>Can eat several crusher overheadsThings that are better are usually also easier to use so what's your point?
>>572205724Not really recruited, the Morrow got basically forcefully shanghai'd by the inquisition who were threathening to kill him and potential his squad mates if he didn't comply and join them.
>>572205695>work harder for less payoffYou'll be a millionaire someday.
>>572205614The transonic blades are too weak and clunky>doesn't reliably 1shot dreg gunners with a heavy duellist headshot>regularly failes to switch modes, especially when you need it the mostIt's basically a light attack sweep and heavy attack strikedown spam weapon except the 2 attacks are separated by a clunky animation
>>572205840Following lines from the inquistor's perspective make it clear all that happened on armageddon>"The grey knights are involved now. They won't stop at Angron, they'll scour this whole planet clean. No one will miss Morrow, no one will care."
>>572205840It's how he originally ended up in stasis, since the Inquisitor knew that the grey knights were going to sterilize and send all of the guard to work camps to keep their secretThe space wolves even threw a hissy fit about this after the fact and had a little space battle with them over it, but ultimately it didn't save the guard from getting worked to death and getting unmarked gravesGrendyl then stumbles on Morrows cryopod centuries later since something happened to the inquisitor who "rescued him" from sharing the same fate as every other guard on the planet
>>572205863>forcefully shanghai'd by the inquisitionI mean that's usually how the Inquisition recruits people yes
can't wait for the inevitable mechanicus ps buffs because of shitters screeching>ez anti horde combo, push attack -> light -> heavy -> light -> heavy>smooth af weaving in of powered attacks when needed>using up all power barely hurts the unpowered attacks>insane finesse/crit multiplier>tight af strikedown pokes>nice lancing heaviesarc maul is the NPC option, transphobic blades are the performative posers, powersword connaisseurs rule supreme
>>572204592make a helbore build and click heads. it has good ammo economy with shock trooper and surgical to the point you can shoot all match without ammo pickups if you're good
>>572205941I think a lot of the "reliability" may be coming from how all the skit talents need to ramp up. I don't really feel they are inconsistent with headshot kills, I'm just aware a fresh engagement is starting cold and I'm weaker than I should be and that accounts for a lot of my non-1shot kills. As for switching modes, that's just fucking everything in this game, there are mods to address that issue for special activations, for weapon swaps, ability usage... input queuing is just fucked in this game by default, so I can't hold that against them. I dunno, I vibe with them (no pun intended) heavy and they've quickly become my favorite melee weapon, I like the versatility and their heavy attacks feel great in both modes.
>>572205724One of the voice lines in the mortis trials reveals or at least implies he and his squad killed a CSM khornate berserker during the first war too.He sure doesn't seem like he's 500+ years old but I guess the rejuve treatments are quite something.
>>572205969>>572206031Ah see I dunno what the grey knights or angron are, so that line went entirely over my head. So why did the inquisitor want him specifically, anyway? Just because he had the balls to put down a commanding officer turned heretic?
>>572205298>play skitty>so its either claw spam or arc rifle spam>also your pet skull is dogshit against anything above maliceI love the Admech aesthetic but I genuinely am starting to lean towards buying Arbites because you get your Dredd roleplay and an actual good cyberpet
>>572206334>grey knightsSuper duper secret space marine mary sues who fight daemons>angronPossibly the most tragic character in all of 40k
>>572206151you're so unique and special for liking the weapon no one likes
>>572206334Angron is one of the daemon primarchs.He's one of those things that just knowing about gets someone executed unless they're really high rank or affiliated with the inquisition.
>>572206151Why are you letting our secrets out? I thought we agreed to gatekeep all of that in the meeting last night.
>>572206151And Combat blade is the pick for people who know what is actually good.
>>572206581I usually love the combat blade but I don't really see how it fits into the skit kit.
>>572206645>Flensing>Crit build>Electrocute on crit>Bonus damage vs people with status effect>Brittleness on electrocuteAbsolutely melts everything and stunlocks for days, don't forget your attack speed while you're at it
instead of the clanka I wish we would have gotten a proper engineer class with a small turret and all to deploy >servo sk- It sucks ass, be quiet
>>572206780What are you taking for blessings and mark? I'll give it a shot
>>572206209It's a night and day difference for vanilla transonics and transonics that have been boosted by the flensing and voltaic branches of the tree. You've got buffs from your flensing stacks, the buffs from just attacking, the buffs to heavy attacks, crits for days, electrocute on crit, brittleness electrocute, bonus damage on electrocute, bonus damage to electrocuted things. I think that's it. Might be missing some. The list just keeps going on.
>>572206809>Placing a static thingy in a game where the fight is constantly moving.They'd have the problem that the ammo/med boxes have at low skill level where people don't know when and where to use it. This might not sound like a problem to you or me but it would be for 90% of the user base and that's no gouda.
>>572206809>turret niggas in a tide gameffffffuck no keep that shit AWAY>>572206879Yep that's exactly how I run em. Feels so good whacking a bulwark shield open with the electrocute on crit and then slicing his head off.
>>572206840Uncanny strike and bleed on critI don't remember the mark but I think the second one? It's the one that's easy to headshot with on heavies since that's how you kill crushers/maulersbasic r1s mulch hordes
>>572207061>I don't remember the mark but I think the second one? It's the one that's easy to headshot with on heavies since that's how you kill crushers/maulersis the push attack the stab or the overhead chop? That's like the only way I can tell them apart myself lol
>>572207104Push is "punching" with your knife hand
The Mark 3 Plasma rifle is so satisfying. Just deleting an entire horde with a single shot.
Lights Out is probably the worst modifier in the game.It's just dogshit to play.It's incredibly funny to me skitarii has all these fucking cameras and lights but they have a fucking trouble seeing in low light/darkness.Just stupid.
>>572207223Plasma Rifle skitty is the way to goToo bad i dont have a proper build yet
>>572207240>backpack has a literal over-the-shoulder light on it>crazy glowing tech-goggles>multiple servoskulls that could carry flashlights>gun that could have a flashlight>cannot fucking see in the darkIt just frustrates me so much how stupid it is. Lights Out was clearly a leftover from when they wanted to do weapon attachments and it's genuinely crazy to me that it's still around years later with no changes to how players can answer it as a unique challenge.
>>572206780and for the ability? Voltaic emitter?
>>572207284The no overheat bug will be patched soon
>>572207341Thats nice to hear, I still need to figure out a build on the talents tree nonetheless
>>572207314I wonder if they just dont know how to code that type of stuff into the game to be a passive thing that works properly.
>>572207340Personal preference, I've run it with both voltaic and chud clawVoltaic is mostly for the +15% attack speedChud claw is to quickly delete bosses after you've stripped them of armorI would say I lean more in the chud claw direction just because voltaic is such a temperamental ability that doesn't even work half of the time due to a tiny rock giving and enemy cover
>>572206809>engineer with le turretsyou can fuck off to any number of the other coop slop gmaes with that shit
>arc maul looks the best>is also getting mogged by shock maulIts not fair man
>>572207465why bleed also, why not finesse on dodge
>>572206809>TurretOnly turret an engineseer would get is a gun servitor and those are too slow for Darktide
>>572201761Have you seen the poster characters for this game? That would have been utterly disastrous
>>572207341even without it, plasma is just that silly of a weaponphosphor with manstopper and surgical still doesn't cleave through as many targets as an uncharged plasma mk2 shot, it's fucking ridiculousarc rifle is there but the trade is smaller magazine capacity with just as painful of a reload, and you're doing all of this to bypass the cleave mechanic entirely to get off a few "smart" cleaving shots that will retarget slightly so the targets don't need to all be lined up for multiple hits to connect. You still lose the ability to fire through bulwarks, and the chain strikes are far weaker than the initial shot.Skitarii is a plasma user, simple as.
>>572207685Because you crit enough to stack max bleed real fast and keep it up? It's a decent enough DoT to put on anything that doesn't die near instantly to you.
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>572207794The only thing that should be stopping a manstopper crit is carapace armor though
>>572204823I don’t think I’ve ever heard them mention the HH other than the Dreamer Psyker who’s actively talking to the emperor
>>572189535I tried to use it to get my perfect curios on Skibidi but it broke
>>572207926>actively talking to a daemon of tzeentchFTFY
So is voltaic emitters weapon disable working as intended?
>>572208090Yeah but it's rather short range and most enemies that are close enough to suffer from it tend to just die outright from the arc grenades actual damage, use voltaic for your penance man..
My main complaint about the skit? Zero movement speed on the skill tree.
>>572208090The disarm is working as intended. The ability itself isn't. It's eaten by the slightest elevation difference and a singular pixel of geometry.
>>572208047It's both desu.It's pretty clear that there certainly is a shard of the Emperor he is talking to and then there are also daemons posing as the Emperor.The Seer also seems to talk to the dead who are still around. Like Saint Messelina, in some of his/her voice lines you can hear him mention something like>"Miss Saint Messelina says she appreciates the thought, but would rather not be put to the sword."The Seer's mind is more akin to an active discord call with dozens of different dipshits who are just hitching a ride while watching the wacky shenannigans happening in Real Space.
>>572208090I doubt slight differences in elevation or tiny obstacles on the floor are intended to block the effect entirely
>>572208090no either an intern made up new code logic or they just forgot to use the "taunt" code that hits through walls or the "shout" from psyker, probably wanted to "fix" the ignoring of solid objects and thus made it get "stuck" on anything yes even small objects
>>572208439>Warp entities are just dropping in and out of the VC at random to see what seeranon is "streaming" todayMy new headcanon, thanks.
>>572208439>It's pretty clearNothing seer says isn't something that a Lord of change larping as the emperor couldn't also sayThey've been around longer than humanity has existed and talk to all sorts of traitor chaos marines all of the timeTzeentch fucking HATES nurgle and loves to lie all of the time, so it's completely in character to help out an imperial psyker to fuck over admonitionFor all we know they killed a tzeentch cult said lord of change was nurturing in the past and now they want revenge>What's that? I can turn them inside out? Urgh that seems a little extremeTzeentch daemons also love to impersonate dead loved ones
>>572208469
>>572202103The Inquisition still actively tries to cover up the existence of Chaos or at the very least sterilize or kill populations that even come into contact with it and for very good reason. Not even Grey Knights studying in their sanctuaries on Titan are safe from its influence, that’s just not the kind of thing you take risks with knowing it’s mutational and corruptive effects. >>572202386She’d probably be granted access to it if it was poignant for her to know or if she was present but yeah there’d be no reason for her to otherwise.>>572202667True but patriotism for any planet where a long running campaign is taking place is pretty common, at some point it’s just a morale boost more than anything.>>572205561This is also probably why Grendyl put him on Atoma, being largely cut off from the wider Imperium is a good way to keep up that illusion until/if Grendyl ever decides or feels like explaining what the hell even happened. >>572206031In fairness the Wolves did manage to save some of the civilization population there too, just at a massively disproportionate cost since a lot of the Space Wolves themselves were killed in the process of course and lead Inquisitor behind the project went around nuking entire planets to kill everyone they even suspected of coming into contact with them until they realized they were too spread out and it was a lost cost to even continue trying.
>>572208629I forget, and you might not know, but wasn't it Tzeentch daemons who tricked Idira in Rogue Trader as well? That was also dead-loved-one(sort of) impersonation.
>>572208512>hey my favorite realspace streamer "seerboy69" is live
>>572208090It works, but stuff like walls and obstacles on the ground fuck with the hit reg.People have speculated that the ability looks for a "line of sight" but for some reason it draws from the character's feet to the enemies.So any sort of walls or boxes or sudden elevation changes, doesn't matter if up or down, just block it.
>>572208047There's no Daemons of Tzeentch in the area bro. Atoma is nurgle turf and that bird can fuck off.
>>572204823IIRC broader Imperium knows of Horus as leader of Humanity's enemies during The Great Crusade. The knowledge that the Nine Devils were actually originally Primarchs is suppressed though.That being said #New40k books and lore is much more liberal with people knowing things they shouldn't. I assume it's just a sad consequence of Capeshitization of the setting and forgetting that there have been ten thousand years of lies and propaganda before "modern day" 40k.
>>572208862It was indeed
>>572208854>Not even Grey Knights studying in their sanctuaries on Titan are safe from its influence,Wasn't a GK seduced by slaneesh in a femboy form?
>>572208898>Tzzentch is actively helping out Imperium just to fuck over NurgleTale as old as time.
>>572208898>There's no Daemons of Tzeentch in the area broWhere one god is present, all of them are presentIt's all part of the great game and Tzeentch has a hateboner for nurgle, he would be the first one to show up and start messing with things indirectly
>>572208898ok tzeentch whatever you say tzeentch
>>572208862It's a Pink Horror, one of the lesser deamons of tzeentch, and it got up to some pretty in depth shit, granted Idira is unsanctioned so that plays into things.If it was a lord of change then the Seer pysker would probably just melt into a puddle since that level of warp fuckery bashing against imperical sanctioning is generally violent and not very subtle.
>>572208629Half the stuff he mentions is something daemons wouldn't know. And only something the Emperor would even say.Daemons in 40k are not all knowing, not even Tzeentch daemons. They love to pretend they are, but they are not.
>>572208975>>572209209Neat, I appreciate consistency in the worldbuilding like that, even if it went over my head at the time. It's nice to know it wasn't just an arbitrary daemon choice. I bet more experienced 40k heads probably knew it would be way before it even happened.
>>572209271Well Tzeentch cults play a huge part in the story of Rogue Trader so it's not really that surprising. Pretty sure Nurgle is the chaos god that gets the least attention in RT. A nice change from the Tide games imo since Fatshark LOVE nurgle (kinda based)
>>572208629>>572208439Our Zealot being able to tap into the Emperor’s magic at will points to it more than likely to it actually being the emperor keeping watch over us
>>572209209>If it was a lord of change then the Seer pysker would probably just melt into a puddle since that level of warp fuckery bashing against imperical sanctioning is generally violent and not very subtle.You can be a Psyker in Rogue Trader and interact with a Lord of Change like five minutes into the game where it manifests to tell you "just as planned" when you defeat the Chaos uprising.
>>572209223>Half the stuff he mentions is something daemons wouldn't knowFactually incorrectNothing seer says is beyond Kairos fateweavers knowledge, or one of the many, many lords of change who sit around all day writing down all the shit he says
>>572209550Yeah that's different from the daemon directly speaking to you and what is supposedly happening with the Seer who has 100% let in whatever warp entity they are communing with.
>>572209509Funny how faith powers and saints turn off when necrons turn on their anti warp powersIt's almost like there's no difference between warp powers and faith powerCuriousThe emperor died long ago, he is truly the corpse-emperor and carrion king
>>572209579That's one incredibly unique lord of change not all of them.Plus the whole sees ALL past and future means he's got the whole knows what could happen but not what WILL happen.
>>572209223Tzzentch doesn't know everything, Kairos does, but he's a 4chan vagueposter incarnate so it doesn't matter.
>>572209680Faith powers are warp based, they're just not chaos aligned.
>>572209714Seeing the future part isn't really that important since all of the stuff seer talks about is in the pastMy point is that all of the stuff he says is knowledge that a crafty Lord of change could have attained by either talking to Kairos, or talking to a bunch of chaos space marines, while occasionally eating a couple of loyalist brains
>>572209618That's literally the same thing actually. Edge of Daybreak talks to you all the fucking time.Wether you fight or encourage it is up to you, but it's in your head anyway.
>>572209680That's actually 100% wrong and you probably know it. The whole Pariah Nexus was about this, Necrons turned off the Warp and Sisters of Battle still shat out miracles like there's no tommorow. It's in the fucking trailer for 9th edition for fucks sake.
It's not even true in the first place, and the guy who says that has already been corrected on the matter, which means he knows he's lying on purpose. In the Pariah Nexus, both imperial and chaos sorcerors were unable to use their powers. Ephrael Stern shows up and IS able to use her powers, which means the authors have explicitly established that faith power DO follow different rules than warp powers. Celestine got weaker in the Pariah Nexus, but she was not completely de-powers like psykers on both sides were, which means when a faith power user is even affected at all, they are affected less. Additionally, the Dark Heresy, Dark Heresy 2, Imperium Maldedictum, and Wrath&Glory rpg games have been clear and consistent on the fact that faith powers follow different rules, come from a different source, and have different pros/cons than warp powers.Humanity has created a new deity that follows different rules, and they have done so through the accumulated strength of their faith for thousands of years.
>>572209852Possession and contact are not the same thing.
>>572209001I don’t recall that but it’s possible I guess. They can even still be possessed if they let their guard down against strong enough daemons.>>572209680There was actually at least one instance where that didn’t happen around the Pylons, but it’s probably more a case of different writers not being able to decide on one explanation or another for something relatively minor.
Desperately need a mod that turns the Zealot cross into a sonichu medallion
I do mortis trials just to hear Sefoni.
>>572210068The Pariah Nexus doesn't shut off the warp completely, it works as a dampener, otherwise every human in range would be dead and warp travel to that zone would be impossible. Battle Sissy faith powers are just strong enough to punch through the pariah field.
>>572210183If the Seer was actually posessed by any kind of a demon I doubt he'd be in much of a state to talk at all, he'd be too busy doing his best pissed-off Daemonhost impression and maybe opening a warp portal or two inside of Mourningstar.
Why the fuck do these shield guys take as many pickaxe hits as a mauler
>>572209768>Kairos doesHe specifically doesn't either. He can see the past and future, but never the present.Also in 40k the future is basically unintelligeble half the time. And at best only thing you can do is just make an educated guess.It's described if you basically take 500 different movies at different transparencies, and the said transparency levels constantly fluctuate as well, and then just overlay them on top of one another and play all of them at once.That's what "seeing the future" is in 40k.Kairos is just like any other daemon, a lying shit who is overblowing his abilities to seem more scary than he is.The Emperor himself admitted that the predicting the future is a crap shoot at best. He described it as being on the shore of the lake and wanting to get to the other side, but he can't predict or fully know the path how to get to it, and any choice he makes will inevitably change the future too due to butterfly effect.And the Emperor is the MOST powerful being to exist in 40k, it's the reason why the chaos gods are so afraid of him and hate him.He's a corpse on a throne that has succesfully being cockblocking chaos for 10 000 years.
>>572210438So Sisters of Battle are apparenly all powerful psykers yet also don't suffer from perils of the warp.Curious fanficfion.
>>572210587No, they're drawing from Big E, this has been obvious for a very long time. Chaos is not the only thing in the Warp.
>>572210581They got like 1200 health each and both for some reason take half damage from headshots.
>>572210630Tru dat
>>572210630
>>572210582>>572209842>Kairos sees all of the past, he knows everything that has happened>Um, actually Kairos doesn't see into the future>Yes, as I said, Kairos sees all of the past>Um, actually Kairos doesn't see into the futureAnon, I...
>>572210749One head looks into the past, the other looks into the future, Kairos doesn't know anything about the present. Tzeentch is the one that knows all that is.
>>572210630But Emperor isn't in the Warp. He's still on his Porcelain Throne, half the reason why he is on it is that nobody knows what will happen if he is released from his body and it was enough of a concern that you have the Terminus Decree (Yeah, right, as if the Grey Nigs could do anything about it) and assorted bullshit.
>>572210893>But Emperor isn't in the Warp.Incorrect.
>>572210630emps is still a Chaos god but his domain is order
>>572210581>hmm players don't seem to like bulwark spam>what if we replace every 1 bulwark with 3 little shield guys>and what if they didn't count as elites for buffs>and what if they had as much health as a mauler so the shield didn't even matter>and what if breaking their shield puts them in a mini-rager frenzy so it's easiest not to break the shield>and what if they looked exactly like normal existing trash enemies our players have been trained for years to ignoreIt's a miracle these devs have survived this long.
>>572210828>Kairos sees all of the past, he knows everything that has happened>Um, actually Kairos doesn't see into the future>Yes, as I said, Kairos sees all of the past>Um, actually Kairos doesn't see into the future>Yes, as I said, Kairos sees all of the past>Um, actually Kairos doesn't see the presentI wonder what curious type of brown ESL you have to be to have such trouble with understanding past tense.
>>572211035>emps is still a Chaos godIncorrect.
I wanna start actually giving Havoc grinding a real shot, probably as Rampage Hive Scum because I like FotF (evisc/chaxe) Zealot but it's sorta griefing. Is 3 +3 stamina curios also fine in Havoc or is it suicide past like, 25-30?Chainaxe on Scum works really well in Auric into chaff, mixed hordes, crushers and bosses alike so that's probably what I'll try using because I'm not really a fan of the shivs. Any modifiers to really keep an eye out for, or things to know team-comp wise if I wanna host my own lobbies?
>>572210985>>572211107>Incorrect.Incorrect.
>>572210582> Also in 40k the future is basically unintelligeble half the time. And at best only thing you can do is just make an educated guess.Not only that, but basically everyone can have their ability to read the future or see different timelines blocked out by other entities. Even the Emperor was cucked by this by Chaos and he was extremely naturally talented in precognition, the Emperor can cuck some of the most powerful Eldar psykers in turn even from the Golden Throne when they try to peer into Guilliman’s future, it’s a back and forth that you have to constantly adapt and navigate. > And the Emperor is the MOST powerful being to exist in 40k, it's the reason why the chaos gods are so afraid of him and hate him.Debatable, I’d say that’s more because he was well on his way to at least significantly diminishing their influence over realspace and their interaction with humanity, but yes, even as he currently is he isn’t something even they can take lightly.
>>572211047>and what if they didn't count as elites for buffsDidn't think about this part until just now and now I'm mad
>>572211175>a combi-bolter>to a fucking goatWho signed off on this, that's basically heresy and tech-heresy at the same time!
>>572210893he literally has daemons now so he is a Warp god
>>572211328Incorrect.
>>572211193Stop getting your info from speculation on reddit. All the emperor is at this point is an Omega + psyker being directly empowered by the worship of countless trillions of humans. The status quo is that he's on the cusp of apotheosis, but is anchored to realspace by his body on the throne.
>>572198365>>572198503>>572198221I was just watching a clip of mine for laughs where I ran this talent of the first time. The team was 3 skittles and a veteran. I took the clip because I wanted to laugh at a tox flamer that blasted me and did ZERO damage to my health pool and only some toughness damage. But then I noticed that the scheduled 1 corruption damage stopped occurring after thattimeline from my clip:>1:44. HP drops from 132 to 131 with the scheduled corruption tick>1:50 I get blasted by a tox flamer to little effect>2:04. HP drops from 131 to 130 as expected with the scheduled corruption tick>2:24. My HP is still 130? The scheduled tick of corruption damage was missed>2:29. The video ends at this point. My HP is still 130. The corruption tick has not yet arrived even though it is 5 seconds past its scheduled time of arrival.I don't know what happened after that point. I didn't notice anything weird at the time since the mission was about to end anyway.>tl;drMaybe getting torched by a toxflamer breaks the scheduled corruption chip damage from Ablative Wards? I only had one corruption resistance curio, but the total value added up to over 100% alongside Ablative wards.
>>572210749I never said he doesn't see into the future?I said that him seeing all possible futures simultaneously isn't really important to seer dialogue since he isn't talking about shit that hasn't happened yetHe's talking about ancient history and forbidden knowledgeBOTH things that Kairos has access to and therefor also any lord of change who's spent time doing datawork writing all the shit he spouts down.What is hard to understand about this statement?There is not a single line of dialogue that Seer has, that couldn't have been provided by a Lord of Change trying to fuck over nurgle while larping as the emperor to make the most gullible psyker of the bunch trust him.
I hope GW never decides to play out the apotheosis of Emps because it will ruin the setting fucking again and we've already lost WFB. Just keep the status quo and keep shitting out your toys
>>572211419Toxflamer "overheals" corruption but instead of giving you normal health it just gives you a corruption buffer that all the corruption ticks go into.
>>572211575Nigger that's what I am saying too, what is your problem here?
>>572211589It'd be AoS again and they won't risk that unless plastic stops selling.
>>572211589>apotheosisWouldn't worry about it, more likely that emperor just goes kaput and then Terra falls into the warp and likely drags Mars with it because no one is keeping the giant portal directly into hell closed anymore.
Anyone notice that clearing someone elses havoc mission at HR40 doesn't change your mission type anymore? Was this an undocumented change?
>>572211669Then why did you reply to me?>>572209842
>>572211589It's just there in case they ever want to AoS the setting.>>572211681AoS is being AoS'd again and that was selling actually okay since it attracted a lot of new players. It's more likely than you'd think, we're basically doing very protracted End Times for 40k.
Can you guys quote some of these "things nobody should know" the Seer talks about? I'm just curious because those probably went over my head too.
>>572211778As a response to the other reply. Read the post schizo.
>>572211229The Emperor is pretty clearly established to be the single most powerful entity in 40k. He's held back the concerted effort of all 4 gods multiple times, so it's not even true that they are stronger if they gang up on him. He's been holding another Eye from opening for his entire tenure on the toilet, and has also sent excursions to burn Nurgle's garden, guided entire crusade fleets through the warp when they were on the wrong side of the cicatrix maledictum, and various other feats that the chaos gods would stop if they could.>>572211328You have been corrected on this multiple times. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself. You're still lying about this after multiple people have corrected you multiple times. What do you get out of lying about toy soldier lore on the internet? It doesn't make sense.>>572211379Not true, and you have obviously not read the horus heresy. The entire thing is chaos trying their best to undermine him and strike him down because he's stronger than them. They get to him by seducing his sons.>>572211589Nah they learned their lesson from AoS and Old World. What they will do is what they have been doing, which is very small time increments and one major event per edition, or every few years. We had Guilleman waking up, then the Lion, it'll be stuff like that.The end times prophecy for 40k does exist, it involves Rus waking up and Cegorach's prophecies happening, but they don't need to pull the trigger on any of these things any time soon.
>>572211689mar will be fine, it has a ctan underneath it
Sp does the "story" just end with stopping that green storm resurrection machine and then no cliff hanger?Are the devs retarded? Why the fuck would they bother making stupid bullshit like expeditions instead of expanding the good fun part people like
>>572211991>you have obviously not read the horus heresyYou didn't read The End and the Death where the only reason he's able to keep standing is specifically humanity empowering him.>"It's not His power, it's where it comes from"If he were a chaos god, he would have consumed humanity much as the eldar were consumed by slaanesh, as he had literally been about to when he nearly became the dark king. You are full of shit, please, PLEASE, shut up.
>>572212101Hilarious levels of mismanagement.
>>572211991>Nah they learned their lesson from AoS and Old World.AoS was actually apparently very financially successful, apparently people really like dogshit
>>572211873>>572211589Maybe if this was 2017~ around the time when they were actually flirting with the idea you’d have cause for concern but it’s clear they’re ok with taking things slowly for the time being and not nuking everything, 40k is more popular than ever so there’d be no need for a move like that
>>572212101Not exactly, we got three missions of Dukane's Bizarre Adventure that ended in the expeditions mode where you listen to that one Admonition guy vaguepost over vox.
>>572212101I remember them making a big deal about the writer and then just fumbled the hell out of it. The story really hasnt progressed at all.
sisters see this
>>572194167Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dumb tourists!!!!
>>572212336I've played 40h of expeditions and didn't retain a single line of dialogue
>>572212363>shota-perorOf course that's what they see.
>>572212320>>572212317And yet they're rebooting Age of Sigmar again.
>>572212346If I remember right, they made a big announcement that Dan Abnett wrote the game to soften the release date being delayed. It later came out he was barely involved.
>>572212148The Emperor is not a chaos god, and I never said he was. You're confusing who you're responding to.I read every single word of every single book. It's clearly established that the Emperor is the most powerful entity in the setting, and that fact is chaos's motivation behind their campaign against him. This is a core part of the entire setting, and what you said doesn't contradict that. Humanity's faith does empower the Emperor, and this does not contradict the statement "The Emperor is the most powerful entity in the setting, and the chaos gods fear him so put great effort into undermining him, and he has proven this in multiple occasions by doing various things that the chaos gods would have prevented if they were able to, but they can't.">>572212317It's their second most popular game. The rules are fine, and the models are good. Some of the models are even better than what 40k gets. I play both games. But the entire way that AoS was made was just lame. It was a major lesson for GW on what people don't like, and they instantly pumped the brakes on a similar storyline they were preparing to pull on 40k regarding the Ynnari. They have been relegated to "yeah they're still around, doing stuff off screen" after initially they were being set up to completely change the setting, at around the same time GW was making AoS.
>>572212552>It's clearly established that the Emperor is the most powerful entity in the settingClearly you haven't or you'd be aware that the tyranid hive mind is the strongest entity in the setting
>>572212320Age of sigmar was their best selling tabletop range.
>>572211991> He's held back the concerted effort of all 4 gods multiple timesWhen? The Emperor holds them back but I can’t think of a single instance where he holds them all back at once as they’re actually putting everything else aside. Remember that they’re ALWAYS more preoccupied with fighting each other than anyone else, what goes in on in realspace is small potatoes compared to what they have to gain from besting each other in their own domain. > has also sent excursions to burn Nurgle's garden, guided entire crusade fleets through the warp when they were on the wrong side of the cicatrix maledictum, and various other feats that the chaos gods would stop if they could.All of that just shows that he’s operating roughly on the same wavelength as any of them individually, maybe in the Warp he has a shot at that title but there are other beings like the C’tan who also contest it. Also what excursion? The only time I recall the Garden being burnt was when Mortarion dragged Guilliman back to show off his kill and the Emperor promptly possessed him and acted through him.
>>572211905If you're doing that you should writeSee>insert post hereThe way you wrote it makes it seem like a mass response to both postsLurk more faggot
>>572197489It isn't flensing
>>572212481>>572212346Abnett’s involvement actually increased only relatively recently since he confirmed Darktide was the only thing he had on his plate right now, which probably implies he’s been helping move the story along and the only thing holding the process up is Fatshark not actually making any new story missions yet
is smite psyker still obnoxious shit that everyone hates
>>572212869Only when it's a retard playing it, which is most of the time, so yeah pretty much. I love a good smyker but all I ever get is smiggers
>>572212869Haven't seen any since skitarii came out, safe to say I'd still hate one if they showed.
>>572212651Correct, Guilleman burning Nurgle's garden is one of the examples of the Emperor doing something that the chaos gods would stop, if they could. But they can't, because he's stronger than them.Dante guides his forces through the warp by personally guiding them, he is empowered to do this through his faith, and it works despite them being on the wrong side of the cicatrix maledictum. If they could, the chaos gods would maroon or even destroy this fleet and kill Dante. But the Emperor is stronger than them, so they travel around the Imperium Nihilus.Another eye opening over Terra is established on several occassions and is a constant effort by all of the gods, but the Emperor has prevented it, and continues to prevent it constantly. One of the fears people have regarding his death is that this eye would instantly open, since he's not there to stop it anymore. So again, if they could, the chaos gods would happily open another eye right over Terra to stage invasions, but they are unable to, because the Emperor is stronger than them is saying no. They can't do it, because they are weaker than him.
>>572212943what's the difference
>>572212839So it's a Half Life situation, huh?
So brunt's just cousin okri.
>>572213149smykers use it as a ripcord for bad situations and to control high prority targets like a big ball of ragers, maulers, crushers, whatever. They also LET GO OF THE BUTTON and join the fight after their team has stabilized under the bad situation, or gotten to take their free initiative against the priority targets.smiggers use it every chance they get on whatever enemies they can see, whether it's chaff or elites, whether it's spread out or grouped, whether it's a single fucking crusher. And they just hold the button for as long as their build allows and expect you to deal with it.
>>572213456Sir, your teammate is getting his balls crushed in the next room
>>572212373Those are techpriests, not skittys.
>>572213571deserved
>>572213571This ain't about him
>>572213571complaining about psykers is more important
>>572213623I do not like non-blue skit eyes.
>game starts>psyker with autism voice jumps on mic>"hey guys I'm a smite psyker I'm gonna be a little slow but if you protect me I WILL keep you aliiiive...">nobody responds>"okay?">nobody babysits him and he has to be rescued 4 or 5 times
>>572213107Right, but a lot of this happened because the Chaos Gods either simply didn’t care to intervene because they didn’t see it as a big enough deal or the Emperor was strong enough to make it happen, but both of those are different cases from him being stronger than all 4 of them combined, he can match them because they always have their attention and forces divided on at least 3 different fronts and never concentrate their full power anywhere, Chaos is always focused first and foremost on screwing each other over and we even saw this when Tzeentch invaded Pestiliax and played a role in preventing Nurgle from winning, thus helping Guilliman secure the system, the strongest argument is the Garden burning which was definitely impressive but if this was something the Emperor could have done at any time he would have just… done that on his own. He clearly needed some kind of opening, and took the opportunity of having one of his own behind enemy lines and the fact that he’s now anathema to them to deal some good damage, but instead of killing Nurgle outright or even killing Mortarion or something he just badly burnt the Garden, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have done more if he was truly stronger than all of them. I’m not saying the Emperor isn’t absurdly powerful but there’s too much that’s still on the table to say he’s *the* strongest.
>>572214531I thought it was the feet burger at first
>>572214621A hungry man sees bread
>>572214743Yeeeeeeeees
>>572213589The mechanicus utilise las thoughbeit, that was the OG query
>>57220229010 hours
Leet name fatigue
>>572214942It was originally asked why skitarii specifically get autoguns and not lasguns.
>>572212634AoS now outperforms 40k few years ago, but 40k now is even further. Skaventide outsold Indomnious, but Leviathan outsold Skaventide.
>>572214583>I don’t see why he wouldn’t have done more if he was truly stronger than all of themGW likes status quo, and nothing is stronger than GW
>>572205840There's new banter between vets about Morrow fighting in the 2nd War for Armageddon and how that means he must be fucking old, though he did spend most of that time in cryosleep.
why does no one mark shit in this game except me?am i expected to run a mod that highlights all specials to me because thats what everyone is fucking doing
>>572215310Mortis trials dialogue confirms he was in the first war as well.
>>572215323Everything dies too fast to mark. I only mark if it's a new enemy demanding immediate attention (like stealth crushers from behind), a boss when the team is separated, I can't shoot the special because I'm reloading, or it's fog/dark.
>>572215323As Payday veteran i instinctively spam marking all the time in all horde shooters
>>572215323Most enemies do not need to be marked. I mostly use mine to find snipers that are a million miles away.
>Joins the voice chat just to dilate then leavesWhats her problem?
>melee maelstrom>2 skittles with no ability, no capacitance regen>pure skull spam>these numbersSkull is le bad, guys. Promise. Winky face.
>>572215323I only mark something that I can't immediately deal with or something I can't see because it's too fucking dark or obscured by 500 poxwalkers.It's pretty rare I'll see a special and not be in a position to immediately shoot the thing.
Do the mutant and boss grabs count as "Incapacitated"? Because dogs and trappers seem pointless if they're already in coherency with you anyway
>>572215737I don't give a shit how much damage it does, blowing capacitance and having to constantly tag shit is not fun and I shan't be doing it.
>>572215786They do count as far as the UI alerts are concerned, so I'm confident enough to not bother checking the source code.Dogs and trappers are still worrisome if you're in fire, so this isn't completely wasted, but I think the node is pretty bad if you take it for anything other than pathing.
>>572215323I only mark snipersAlso veteran and arbites are automatically highlight elites for themselve, so kills any desire to do it after playing them enough
>>572215901Desperado scummers and Skitarii who waste a talent point are also getting auto-marking on nearby elites and specials.
>Presses power button>Engines turn off>"Ahhh.... that is most unexpected...."
so what am i missing with hive scum? He seems to get zero DR anywhere so on open maps you're just getting your shit pushed in by ranged enemies because all your guns are shit and you have no dashes
why does sliding not count as a melee dodge
>>572216203>some retard engaged in melee combat with me tries to do a fancy action movie slide>I crump him right on top of his silly little exposed headIt's just not a tactically sound maneuver.
>Wants Zola to present herself to the commissar>Shes literally within shouting distanceIs this a woman moment?
>>572216253this argument applies to regular dodges towards whatever's attacking you but those still work
>>572215323you don't have to mark literally every special. I only mark something I can't deal with, which needs to be dealt with.
>>572216158It's the dodge class. You spam dodge and slides.
wtf that anon was right, Advanced Combat Doctrines doesn't activate the Advanced Power Management node on Redline. Fucking into the trash it goes
>>572216450And morrow has to sort it out for them
*pimp slaps five Ragers in a single swipe*:3
>>572217213>they all barely survive
can I change eye color after chargen? I picked green and its bothering me
>>572217409probably at the german doctor
>>572215901Exact opposite for me because I use focus target as veteran and use the dog to take out specials as arbites, so marking enemies has become second nature.
>>572217409>picking green in the green = shoot game
makes me laugh every time >>572217409yes you can change at the doctor on the ship.
>>572202791this “planning for failure” shit is dumbmistakes WILL happen and will happen a lot on high difficulties, and ranged revives will save move runs than a crumb of extra damage or toughness ever willif the run goes smooth and you didn’t need the revives? good, you still beat the missionit’a the same argument as putting revive speed on your curios
>>572217131Poor Morrow, he has to deal with Rannick's whims, Zola/Dukane/Hallowette stronk womyn moments and Hadron's autism, while his cryo Alzheimers means he can't go into the field, all his old troops are dead and his bro Brunt is missing.
Anyone wants to play barony? Barely touched the game
finishing skitty penances today
>>572218359What the hell is that
Brittleness or bleed better on rumbler?
>>572218768depends if you want to fuck up crushers or monsters the most. If you use gunlooger use blaze away and adhesive charge
Curse of malfunction is costing me my soul, is shocktroop gauntlet the way to go?
>>572218990spam high intensity missions or wait for fatshart to nerf it
we're almost there chat
>>572218319>this “planning for failure” shit is dumbIt is literally just brown people who cannot grasp the concept of insurance, which is a known phenomenon.
whats the difference between flak and carapace armoured enemiesarmor is armor why does my weapon care
>>572219294based ogryn chad
>>572219606carapace is the giga nigga armour only worn by bosses, crushers and in select spots on a few other enemies. Flak is worn by everyone from the little bruiser enemies right up to the biggest ogryns
>>572218347Also he has to fuck Brahms to keep her happy>>572216090He loses his train of thought sometimes
>>572216090I love this fucking troll
>>572218990no man's land auric histg is pretty good. Lots of gunners. The ability is more consistent if you can get a little high ground. For example stand on top of a table in a room, to avoid small objects on the floor from blocking the ability line of sight.
>>572219606It's like how a simple spear is going to perform differently against thin leather and steel plate.Flak is basic protection and carapace is dedicated heavy armor constructed out of valuable and uncommon materials, it's thin plates of the same composites space marine armor is made of.
>>572219606flak is medium armorcarapace is heavy armor
>>572218347Hey at least he secretly likes us.
>>572219326I think it is a valid variable to consider but not the only one. A whatever buff that triggers if you have a downed ally in coherence or excessive spare wounds is stupid because it offers nothing.Good example is also old Vet revive shout - you had to take a penalty to your shout cooldown to be able to pick people up or you could have just taken Piss Toughness and Piss Toughnessed the entire time so nobody went down in first place.The revive skull offers a no-questions asked ranged revive as long as you can eat some grenade charges. It's fucking great and even if you do really well in a mission, you'll probably get a use or two out of it.The only argument against it is that it's arguably fine to not bring any blitzes at on Skitarii and save points for other, busted nodes but that still doesn't make it automatically disqualified as an option.
>>572220537>it's arguably fine to not bring any blitzes at on Skitarii and save points for other, busted nodesThe skull is outdamaging the average auric shitter thougheverbeit. It's worth more than an entire teammate lol.
>>572214531>Didn't vote to kick him immediatelyDo not tolerate smiggers
>>572219743
>>572218990Uprising mortis city map, wave 6 for infinite reapers and a crowd to farm cooldown off ofTake electrocute on block and hope you get extra uses and 1 charge counts as three
>>572220610Isn't that with Noosphere though?
>>572220675It is. It is also doing more damage than most abilities let you, although claw has some undeniable utility against bosses. Not to devalue VE, which is amazing, but the skull is just better lol.
>>572220610Sure. It's definitely the best Blitz, but Skitarii has so many talents that are pretty good there is a case to be made for using the unupgraded, no Blitz skull, since it still is a damage boost and can solve minigames in a pinch.
praise upon the omnissiah
>>572221567>have both part of chaos waste yet refuse to give us CW
>>572221629please just forget about chaos wastes ... let them forget about it. they'll think we actually want another side mode and it won't even be good.
>boss swigger, our game has turned out pretty fun and people like it. should we expand the story by adding more levels?>no make barebones crap that nobody will play, twice
>There are people ITT who doubt the power of the heavy las pistol
>>572221567>instead of costing capacitance shooting elites restores capacitanceThis is how the shooting ability should have worked as a baseline instead of being a snoretis trial modifier.
>>572222465It's not that I doubt it, I just have more fun with the full auto one
>no new music from Jesper Kyd>no the intro cinematic for skittles dont countgrim grim grim even Kyd has dropped the Eternal Swede
>>572219294Claim that reward
>>572222465build?
>>572222560Go back to /hdg/ please.
>>572222524Skits only get the las pistol
>>572222518you still gain positive when making headshots
>>572222560Wasn't there a new theme for the packmaster boss?
>>572222707but it should be a super power las pistol because its attached to the backpack
>>572222465It's very ammo hungry and requires cheats to use
can the claw get weakspot kills?
>>572222601dip into right for the damage/toughness nodes in the middledip into bottom for full flensing / weakspot damagedip into left for +crit and noosphere/chud clawa bit of top for survivability and the +10% damage on hitting status affect enemiescrit + weakspot capacitance + flensing keeps you topped up
>>572222728You lose like 10% capacitance every second while every shot also costs 1% cap, you're never staying in the positives with the ability, meaning it will forcefully end.Unlike veteran whose exec stance lets you keep the buff up indefinetly as long as you just kill the highlighted enemies.
>>572222465I think everyone and their dog already knew that the laspistol was better than every other laser, (unless you're some damnationshitter spamming recon into hordes or whatever)
>>572222465It's slow and does less damage per shot than the phosphor pistol
>>572222805
>>572222947>ammo hungry>las pistolWhat are you smoking? It's one of the most ammo efficient guns in the game>cheatsJust spam r1 like you're playing diablo you faggot
>>572223062>It's slowt. arthritis
>>572223129>r1Oh that explains EVERYTHING
Freudian slip...
>>572223149It literally shoots slower than the other mark. You do more damage with that in less time than with the kantrael mark. This has been known for ages regarding which one to take for the vet build. You don't have to pretend you've struck upon some secret meta, you haven't.
>>572223062>per shotIt also gets to fire over 35 rounds per reload >slowAre we even playing the same game?
>>572223186I meant left mouse, I'm too used to talking to dark souls fags who look at you funny for playing m+kb
>>572223320>It literally shoots slower than the other mark.Nigga he was talking about the phosphor pistol
>>572223530I'm sure you did
>>572223646Might wanna go reread the reply chain
>>572223006and you get 2% on weakspot kills, going net 6% is whatever and in some cases a bad thing, because you need to spend a full charge for certain keystones to trigger, you delaying it actually hurts you
>>572223530so you ask us to forgive you Zanzibar?
>>572223736You first>>572223062
>>572223129>Just spam r1 like you're playing diablo you faggotMy wrist health comes before the poor decisions of Swedes.
>Redline Capacitors for extra charges>Refraction Emitter>Advanced Combat Doctrine>Braced AutogunYep, this is kino.
>>572223006Yes but unlike vet's stance you can toggle it on and off at will. It's almost like different abilities have different pros and cons so we're not all playing the same character.
>everything is fine if I join my team in killing the deamonhost>but no, I'm going to sabotage them by standing still and watching them>everything is fine if I kill the crushers my smig team mate is stunning and brittle >but no, I'm going to sabotage them by standing here doing nothing (while another team mate who did nothing wrong is dying, by the way)The person who makes these webm's of the other people supposedly being bad is the bigger fag. At least those people just made a simple mistake or doesn't understand a mechanic yet. To stand still and sabotage your team is choosing to be a faggot, which is a million times worse.
Sometimes I am nice and invite havoc 20 into my havoc 40 but holy shit they are terrible. They don't even understand the fundamentals.
>>572224019>t. useless smigger who failed to dodge an overhead
>>572224019>Hating on journalistsAre you a politician by chance?
>>572223876Yes, you are replying to me you stupid speedreading nigger. Let me break it down for you so it's easy to understand>Heavy las pistol has two marks>Kantrael mark fires more slowly than Accatran>Phosphor pistol does more damage per shot than KantraelTherefore, anything you would use the Kantrael for, it's straight up better to use the Phosphor pistol. When it comes to Vet, Accatran is better than Kantrael because TTK with it is substantially lower because it has less delay between shots than the Kantrael makes up for with its 60 extra points of damage.Kantrael fucking sucks by every metric.
>>572224019troothnook
>>572224192to be fair gaming journalists are the lowest of the low
>>572222842I thought there was too, it might have just been remixed though? Idk>>572224192In fairness, a lot of journos report on absolute nonsense.
>>572224192nta but defending journalists is merchant behaviour, they haven't been on the public's side for a long time
>>572224058h20 is waaaaaay too low. Take no lower than 30.
>>572224679What we have now aren't journalists, they're mouthpieces. There's a difference.
I wish they'd stop giving guns awful iron sights.
>>572224267>Assuming that I'm using the KantraelMore egg on your face in that case
>start hearing some banter>immediately cut off by some other random calloutwouldn't really be a problem if the pace of the game was slower but instead we're stuck with nothing but special callouts for 99% of the game, occasionally broken up by someone getting a killstreak line
>>572224889And yet we get silence in elevator rides and airlock doors.
so how well does this perform in havoc
>2 friends from different country kept talking about how badly havoc 20 whooped their ass >turns out it's just heresy with silly modifiers
>>572225014It's no replacement for piss toughness that's for sure
>>572225014total meme talent
>>572224840>using meme perksAnon please don't use fucking +10% weakspot damage. Just run unyielding like a normal person. Even crit is kind of bad.>inb4 Dunning-Kruger shitterbabbleSpare me.
>>572225014I tried it and couldn't tell if it was doing anything
do veterans no longer have the ability to generate grenades for the team?
>>572225252yup no logner
>>572225169It's the build I ran/run for the image I posted, but I guess you're just going to complain no matter whatI don't need unyielding when I'm already critting reapers for 1k+ damage on weakspot hits
>>572224840>weakspot damage>she doesn't knowLmao
>>572223320>It literally shoots slower than the other markWhat other mark you fucking ape? Anon only called it 'the heavy las pistol', which IS THE NAME OF THE GUN
>>572225252Vets generate their own and if they have field improvisation then you get them when you resupply from an ammo box
>>572225470where's the light las pistol
>>572225426Vagueposting is the sign of a sore loser
>>572225101>>572225128>>572225206is resurgence aura with three toughness regen curios a meme
>>572225571all laser pistols use light
Tried to use knife skitty but I can just crit all day for free the way my Vet and Zealot can, it just didn't feel as good
>>572225571Coming paired with Chainsword in the next Weapon DLC.
>>572225621It is in havoc because your toughness gets shot to shit which is why any run without a zealot/vet handing out piss toughness is playing on hard mode
>>572225621is resurgence the one that lets you regen near enemies?I need to test it more but it has potential imo
>>572225621Toughness regen curios are for when you're standing around and nothing is happening, replace that shit brotha
>>572225643but there's a smaller version of the heavy laspistol
>>572225653>it just didn't feel as goodPiss toughness truly is the secret sauce that makes combat blade feel good
>>572225836I prefer stealth
>>572225892Get out of my havoc lobby right now
>>572223973Doing that is potentially not good. Using the idea he totally didn't steal from the guy he mentions in a video on the abilities. He points out that each time you turn it back on, you just lost 25%. Then he describes how you can stall out the constant 10% by reloading, firing once, reloading, repeat. The positive use case here is plainly only to be found in HINT or H40. Otherwise, just turn that shit off and regain in melee. He acts like you should always be doing this, but that's patently retarded. Either way, it isn't a bad piece of knowledge to have in the back of your head when you are approaching a total fuck nightmare zone and there are enough random, isolated enemies for you to pick off in order to overcome the loss.
>>572225724>>572225753>>572225761thought resurgence aura let you regenerate in combat
>>572226090Well yeah, the key word there is potentially of course. Btw you can also do that delay trick with venting the plasma gun
>>572223129Unironically I would if I could but I'm over 30
>>572226391Just install an autoclicker and bind it to left mouse grandpa
The havoc pug experience wouldn't be so fucking insufferable if fatshart would stop being lazy faggots and actually rework the party finder menu to make it useful. Being able to post your mission followed by being able to actually input text saying what you're looking for would be cool, or a drop down icon menu that displays looking for specific classes would also be nice. Also inspect social mod should be the absolute baseline baked into the game but even better. I hate sweden for not doing that much at the absolute barest minimum.
>>572226676The fact that you need a mod to inspect people before inviting them is my biggest gripeThe second is not being able to kick people from my group once I realize that they don't speak english
>>572226391>I'm over 30Buy a proper gamer mouse that has an autoclick function built in then
>>572226676Is Mahjong heretical in 40k?
>>572225604I wasn't arguing with you, retardIf a normal shot does 100 damage and a weakspot does 150 then +10% weakspot damage is 5 because it only adds to the 50 damage
>>572215589she's probably like 400 years old, man.
>>572226676currenthavoc mod made my havoc pugs way easier since most of the true shitters 40s are just hardstuck 20s who got boosted
>>572216090KX-8 is 100% just fucking with pre-servitors. I bet in binharic he's completely normal. I like him.
>>572226972The weakspot damage on the las pistol is like 300+ tho
>>572227115Ok so 330
>>572227115Now image what +25% damage to the most important enemy type would do
>>572217264I bet the "guaranteed crit" is actually just like a +60% crit chance because sometimes I instagib like 20 ragers and sometimes I just flap them around and I don't know what it could be.
>>572227095KX-8 more like XJ-9
>queue auric maelstrom>level 20 >level 26Why did they do it bros
>>572227045How come you don't have havoc 40 if it's so easy to get boosted?
Wouldn't melee weak spot and crit hit damage be the most consistent for melee weapons?
>>572226214It does but it doesn't do much when you're being BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT'd by a gunner.
>>572226920presumably popular among the higher ranks of the iron fist regiment
>>572227389they get carried through damnation so they figure they're ready for the next difficulty
>>572227389Game tells them that they need to do a Maelstrom to play Havoc so they play Auric Maelstrom.
>>572227173>>572227191Sheesh fine I've changed itAre you happy now?
>>572227502depends on the weapon and what you use it foralways put carapace damage on your crusher bonker
>>572227502No, newfriend-chan. Crit chance is an EXTREMELY niche stat that only matters on a microscopic handful of weapons (and is arguably bad on them, too), and weakspot damage is completely dead and useless.Yes, crit damage is even more pitiful.As a rule of thumb, the perks that matter are +25% damage against an armor type. This is often flak on your melee weapons because flak is the most common armor type you'll face in melee. It can sometimes be carapace if your weapon is half-decent against it, it can sometimes be maniacs if you either need to kill mutants fast, or can reach breakpoints like 2 heavy attacks to kill. It can be unyielding if it's a boss killer, or you need more damage against bulwarks/reapers.You never take weakspot damage.
>>572225014>gain like three toughness per five seconds from my sixteen squaboobly talents>my teammates get a whole whopping 25% of thatwow
>>572227459getting there, currently at 38. i've been queueing my own havocs instead of queueing into other people's 40s
>>572227857I've done the math. You can get like 40+ per second and share ~11 to teammates, if you commit to the bit. It's not terrible, but it's not amazing either.It probably kinda sucks in havoc because it gimps your total toughness amount, which in turn gimps your % nodes.
>>572227935>i've been queueing my own havocs instead of queueing into other people's 40sPoor excuse, I did h40 on patch day with randoms with a record of 10-2 and I think +2 on the True Survivor penance (I think it's at 5 now, I blame playing meme builds that go down on purpose). Looks like someone needs boosting after all.
OCE havoc is so fucking dead
>want to play skitari>don't want to be trans
So if I try to start Havoc from 16 or wherever it is auric maelstrom puts you, are people actually going to join that shit or am I going to be waiting in PF all day like it's FFXIV again?
>>572228146I just jump on Hong Kong server (they fucking suck ass)
I don't bother with havoc anymore. I got all the penances done, it's not worth it to play anymore.
>>572228075>she got better director rng in havocs
>>572228146I jump from eu to us servers to get actual humans to play with. slavs know their mobas but they can't play co-op for shit
>>572228075>I did h40 on patch day with randomsNot everyone is unemployed.
>>572163407should have made DRG 2
>>572228263Laggier for me than US west but I never know what time or day to jump in US
I am once again asking if either long lasting or blessed stims work on hive scummer's medicrate or if they're just tax nodes to get to it.
>>572227045>currenthavocThanks, this is what I've been looking for
>>572225470>he posted>with the other mark in his imagelol
I don't see the point in a galvanic rifle after I've tried a phosphor pistol.
What's the Revenant of Darktide?Aka class that at first only trannies and mentally ill play because it's general weakness and inferiority, but at the end all pro players move to it because it's the only way to have fun after game is solved...
>>572228797Something for boring aimhomos
>>572228826psyker
>>572228635they're ~8 hours behind so roughly 1-2am?
>>572228797It's helbore but the swedish made it worse somehow.
>>572228075Anon, I have work.
>>572228346It was pretty nightmarish actually but I play zealot so the director can snort crack all he wants and still get raped.
>>572228202what kind of cringelord plays this game for penances and not for fun?
>>572228934Commiefornia time is like 19 hours behind me
>>572228826>Revenant
>have seven +3 max stamina curios on arbites>only one on my hive niggerwhen will fatshark let me trade curios
>>572229287>tradethey should just be shared like v2
now that i have all the penances, i can play my last 23 games as skitarii the way I want!
>>572229208easier to calculate in smaller increments, I meant to say 8 hours AHEAD (and a day behind) so cali would be like 7 hours ahead
>>572228826People aren't going to want to hear this but Veteran is unironically Revenant from the high ranged damage all the way down to the aoe revive ability that doubles as an emergency stagger.
Dukane sounds so pretty, why does she have to look like that
>>572229950her voice is terrible
Flak damage or crit chance on tranny blades?
>>572230120*farts in ur face*
>>572230120You can already get to 80% crit chance easy, do you really think the 5% are changing anything?
>>572229510That's what I meant, yeah.
>>572230120Carapace and Unyielding like (almost) every weapon
>>572230330depends on the build, obviously. The weapon loves crit.
>>572229950more like Dookieane
>>572229950Her voice is the worst part of her character though? I hate the fake russian accents they're so bad.
>>572171210You were right Ogryn's feeling a lot better to play. I like the pile bunker grenade thing that makes the guys pop
Is the stab or the swipe heavy combat blade better for hivescum?
>>572230847Pick rocks instead, they are on cd instead of being grenades, and you can snipe elites with them
I can't believe they made the shield blitz cost grenade charges.Absolutely dented design.
>>572231335It'd be fine if it regenerated charges, which it should.
>>572231335>limited use energy shield>on a class centered around a multipurpose energy charging mechanic>costs grenadesI would argue even the flame skull shouldn't cost grenades and should refill on ammo pickups. The healing skull could recharge on medicae uses. And if skitarii can learn to shit ammo he can learn to shit shock grenades. Rebalance them all if you have to, but the less characters dependent on competing for random grenade drops the better.
I'm 90% sure all that shit originally used capacitance but Sven went "OH NEJ NEJ NEJ DAT EES TOO STRONG!" and made it all worthless.
>>572231809There's no other way we've ended up like this.>invent a new unique resource>it's just ability charges
>>572231892thought I was in the path of exile general for a second
>>572229950Her voice is cute
>>572231335Everything costs grenades and it's outright confusing. Veteran can revive the entire team all at the same time for no cost other than 1 node, while skitty has to go out of his way for a tax blitz, and an extra subnode for the blitz. Then spend a grenade to pick one other person up.I would have preferred an insane cooldown than this bullshit.
>>572232051We need a few more currency shops before we're there
>>572231335Claw should've been a blitz.Shield should've been an ability.
>>572229950I like dukane's voice and looks but hate havoc
>>572231335I like it.
>>572231892they probably wanted to give the skit something "unique". Fooled me at first glance
>>572232404Fuck no. Claw as blitz is genuinely retarded, and shield as ability would have been ridiculed as Castigator stance 2.0
>no longlasting stims on medicrate scummerwhy are you even here
UGLY
>>572232261Give us unique rare currency drops in missions so I get a dopamine rush whenever I hear the tink noise.
>>572232404Imagine if skitty was completely modular and you could choose whether each of the 6 options was your blitz or ability. Ability would be stronger but cost more capacitance while blitz is weaker but spammable like psyker blitzes. Say for example, servo skull as an ability would come with flamer and medicae skull while blitz would be the default with the noospheric upgrade.
>>572232404>Claw should've been a blitz.>Chud claw now costs grenadesYou know it to be true, search your swedish feelings
>>572232404No. Claw being as spammable as it is because of all the ability regen is what makes it fun.If you ate a couple crushers and then had to find some grenades to do it again it'd be insanely gay.
>>572232917the claw is too powerful right now and you know it
>>572232742thats a weird candy cane, sah
>>572232962Doesn't mean it should be garbage instead.
>>572232962It's really not>but it can kill crushers in one hit!So can a fucking krak, and Vets pull those out of their ass
>>572232962>nerfing in a pve game instead of bringing the rest to speed
Before they even THINK of touching the claw they need to unfuck the other 2 abilities first.If I'm forced to use electrofart in its current state ever again I'm dropping the class.
>>572232962lol, no.
>>572225014>>572227857>>572227956It's one use i can think of in H40 is that it works for Psykers bubble regen aswell, so its slightly more toughness for your teammates during that i guess? I regen a quadrillion toughness on skittles already and figured itd be a worthwhile pick, but its super underwhelming if your teammates actually play the game at allMight be better if Jamming is fixed, but atm its a wasted point in Havocs and even Aurics since the meme event can fuck your coherency radius
>>572233258just make it so they arc like a taunt
>>572233258Emitter is amazing. They just need to fix the line of sight issue. Mechanically it's definitely meta.
>>572233337It simply needs to work like psyker shriek. I have no idea why they thought this garbage needed some wonky LoS from your feet for an effect that isn't even as good as that AND takes longer to recharge.
is this a one time purchase or does it reset like gacha games reset it every year because 4000 penis bars are 5 bucks all of the time it might actually be worth it to buy drip
>>572232962Try a infinite krak grenade vet or a dogless arby grenade build and suddenly the chud claw wont seem so powerful
>>572233459one time
>>572233258>>572233337Genuinely why the fuck isnt the jamming just a radius check?>30m aura, check if enemy is in, behind wall or otherwise>jam gun if yes
>>572232962The only nerf I might suggest for it is that it shouldn't be allowed to use the base claw attack AND the modified ones from the nodes behind it. Either that or they need to delete the triple stab entirely.
>>572233961how do you even come up with these stupid ideas? Having 2 modes on the claw is good and fun and it's not even remotely OP. Please stop
>>572233961Thats dumb though, claw really isnt strong enough to warrant gutting that utilityThey should give the stab a unique niche instead, not that i got an idea for that
Reminder that 2 years ago some guy in here defended to the death his idea for ogryn to have a backpack fed minigun that couldn't be reloaded and had a set pool of ammo per mission. You should be more grateful that gamers aren't designing games.
>>572234568i remember
>>572234357>>572234386It IS good and fun but it doesn't jive with the way the talents are set up, almost makes me think it wasn't meant to be the way it is, at some point in the development process.
>>572234568I think that idea is cool, like engineer bardin, with ammo however.. But I guess they could save the gimmick for a future class.
The powerful heavy default claw attack should cost 2 charges
I may get chewed out for this here on /coopg/ but I hope that the other classes get another update to their talent trees to what Skitarii have; unless of course Skitarii is going to be the first "Hero Class" ala WoW comparison and only the Cop Class will get a tree akin to Skitarii in the future.
>>572235046skitarii tree fucking blows and it's tax talent city, no thanks
I think there should be an alt fire on the arc grenade where I use it as a impromptu club and when I hit something I get catapulted into the air like yahoooo
>>572234568I want the opposite, let me play ogryn with just my fists.
I feel like the thing that damaged skit the most was the fact that they tried tomake every aura "unique"Hive scummer shares like three auras and that class is awesome.
Coop game I can be a healslut in?
Trying havoc with randoms for the first time Jumped in a group playing 27 and it was a fucking breeze, I heard it becomes hard at 20 but this fine lmao
Why do the demonhosts sound like women when its clearly a man?
>>572232962Did you think gunlugger orgyn was too powerful as well
>>572235254all women are demonic
>>572231283>THROWIN ROCKI love this retard
>>572235230What do you mean by aura? I thought it was the yellow node
my favorite thing to do is claw mutants, its my turn to play grab ass
>>572235254They're mtf or ftm
The only OP thing on skit is noose command
>>572235046om nom nom. I'm chewing on you right now.
>>572235252Killing floor 1 and 2 and 3
>>572235652Both scum and ogryn have a +10% melee damage aura.Both scum and psyker have a +5% crit chance aura.And both scum and veteran have an ammo replenisment aura(although they work differently).
if you don't make a new thread, then i'm gonna make another comic sans edition
>/coopeggers/ is finally overbanger
>>572236473>>572236473>>572236473>>572236473>>572236473
I don't know what, if any, toughness nodes I should be taking as a Skitarii.Most of the nodes on this tree are absolutely useless.
>>572236182oh right right. I guess the skit auras are all +25 toughness nodes with some bs attached
