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THIS SUCKSI HATE THIS
personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
>>572202296With art, it's not the quality that means the most, it's the emotions and feelings that you convey and people feel when they see it.Maybe it's just cope, but there's truth in every lie.And meaning in every poetic waxing.
if you were equipment in deltarune, what would your effect be
>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
Flowery's the type of guy to say "Heh. Looks like we've got company!" When being chased.
Ralsei will be the Weird Route final boss since we now have explicit confirmation that he's actually extremely powerful
Heh
>>572202360Decreases speed of all income attacks by 0.01%
>>572202382He is and I would love him for it
Perfect hair... for as long as possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OZ9tbOUt8c
>>572202053>>572202070Based anonssaved me a colossal chunk of time
>>572202415There are probably so many landmines like this in the game already
>>572202214
>>572202415>Susie finally realizing that the reason her friends drowned is because they were trying to do the "lake skip"Boy does she have some egg on her face!
>>572202360Non-crits deal no damage, but crits deal triple damage, +2 DEF
>>572202267One day the true intellectual NTR enjoyers shall inherit the earth...
>>572202360Cause the Ralsei splat effect sound at a 1/100 chance every step.
>>572202358Drawlet cope
If you love Noelle you will let her rape you, and cry the whole time as she chokes you.
Something happened last night
>>572202520do>welike asgore as THE VAGUEPOST KING?
>>572202520Lmao
>>572202360Weapon +100 Penis length and damage
Watching Kris walking off alone at the end made me insanely sad. Get this kid a hug ASAP.
>>572202571I can manage that
I think I just realized something; What is the day of the week after the festival?
>>572202657MY SIDES
>>572202670Monday
>>572202554You can't hurt me more than I've already hurt myself Anon.
Mew mew beam>>572202670MondayI hate mondays
Mew Mew says she got the purple SOUL mode tea from a "bug" to make the player think of Muffet, but she actually means "bug" as in a computer bug. There's a reason the Hacker is the NPC who tells you to obby for pink coins, he also helps you find the backdoor into Queen's basement because he's conceptually attuned to bugs.Invest in this theory now before it blows up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsZpOUZEyfo
>>572202704>>572202706NTA but oh boy, its schoolday :D
>>572202474I was thinking about this too when I saw that brought up, I wonder if there's any hints for chapter 6-7 hidden that we won't know of until much later.
>>572202670>Days of the weekHoly shit Raditz is in Deltarune???
>>572202726Don’t be so open about your bitterness
>>572202613Humans DESERVE bullying.
haha, Kris! you were raped by my daughter.
IT'S UP!!!https://poal.me/2nbqivhttps://poal.me/2nbqivhttps://poal.me/2nbqiv
>>572202613It made me mad, just kinda reinforced that Susie can only think about what she's dealing with at any point like her whole reaction to finding out the Dreemurr family is not some perfect family unit and her constantly bringing up Noelle when were trying to deal with the fountain before something happens to Asgore. I fully expect that carelessness to blow up in her face the next day with Noelle if something happens to Rudy.
>>572202340>Noelle makes a fountain at home/hospital.>Susie initially tries to reason with her so that the roaring doesn't happen.>However, eventually they have an argument.>Susie says "If the Roaring happens, all the Darkners will turn to stone, don't you get that??">Noelle says "Fuck the Darkners. They're just fantasies. My dad is real.">This fight severs them, and Susie reverts to seeing everyone except for Kris and the Darkners as an enemy.
>>572202214Aaaaaaah, sex with Aqua! Flower cunny! I need flower loli! Showing Aqua my cock and balls and letting her play with them however she wants! Having my cock and balls cut up and possibly castrated by Aqua!
Chapter 6 next year and Chapter 7 coming out by the time of the game's tenth anniversary is the plan, yes?
>>572202824Neither of those make sense and I'm not writing in an answer for your poorly thought out poll
>>572202772How many Raditzis is the knight?
>>572202810Oh how the turntables...>>572202801they really do.
>>572202904ok give me an answer that makes sense if you're so fucking smart
>>572202824Kris is teaming up with Carol and the Knight but is planning to betray both them and if Susie happens to find out, Kris will risk striking out on their own all just to Make a version of Mr Ant Tenna that they don't hate.
>>572202358Wasn't the balloon orange in-game?
>>572202961I can't because I have no fucking clue, but there's evidence that neither of your provided "options" are correct now
>>572202704Noelle is gonna wake up to her dad in the hospital, her new love interest revealing that she lied to her, tell her that the world is going to be threatened by an apocalypse told by in prophecy, which is being brought about by a near unbeatable shadow demon that may also be the reason that her big sister diedAnd she'll still have to go to school in the morning
Is Mettaton gay, or just a curvy flamboyant pink robot who's straight
Can the TOP OF CASTLE also count as CASTLE EAST?Feeling kinda baffled on this one, it's my final coin and I've been humping walls and chopping everything
>>572203045No
>>572202865>https://youtu.be/SzVNiAmylpcdidn't even queen explain how fountains are made with her present?... damn this could actually happen.especially if you weird routed in ch2 and 4 because she would know it wasn't a dream.
>>572203045son
>>572202358thank you, flower man. really.
>>572202787You call it bitterness, I call it honesty.Nothing can hurt me anymore, because I'm aware of how far I have to go as an artist, but also how far I've come.I'm free.>>572202978Yes.But I made it teal so that it pops out more.And also for symbolic reasons.
>>572203010Noelle isn't gonna take that too well, methinks.
>>572202360-10 to all statsYou can do two actions.
>>572203045Did you find the train room?In Orange's section, there's a breakable panel on right wall during one of the vertical climbs.
>>572203045East of the main foyer
>>572202360All damage taken is diverted to RalseiEven if worn by Ralsei
>>572203137Don't reply to artschizo, he will derail the thread
>>572203031i mean can a guy really put on a dress and sing a music number and still be straight?
>>572203148>Hi I'm toby fox and this is my 2hu OCkek
>>572202360A magnet effect that draws bullets towards the SOUL. -10ATK, -2DEF.
Does Kris refusing to throw away Sans' bread prove that Sans is in incredibly deep on the conspiracies?
>* ERASE.
>>572202613Kris will be neglected by his momKris will hear Tori and Sans back breaking sex outside in the rain because she forgot Kris was outKris will be abandoned by Susies and NoelleKris will be raped by nolle in the weird route making him suicidal giving him no escape from the sufferingRalsei will vanish completelyBirdly will die of heart attackAsgore will move on with a new family and forget KrisLancer will be the ring man for Susie Wedding (kris didn't get invited btw)Kris will be forced to make amends with us inside his body as we are trapped togetherKris will become degen and desire the affection of the player as we are his only option for any real affection while barely making ends meet as they got kicked from home as sans doesn't fuck with kids that aren't his he ain't a cuck.Asriel will be revealed having died on his way home and Kris will see his dead body from the car crash
>>572202358saved.weh weh little cuckboy wingmanned himself out of his only friendship fucking retard, you should've something, anything but instead you chose to show susie how she can replace you in every way until you don't fucking matter to anyone.you suffering will only worsen from here.
>>572202519actually i have bad news, your inheritance is going to your brother
>>572202670Group project day
What if Catti was TRAPPED and BETRAYED in a dark world for 1000 years?
Fox tittyhttps://static1.e621.net/data/c5/a5/c5a58b9d4ca9249be53cd47efce74010.png
post chapter depression's really getting to me. can't draw even if I wanted to.
>>572203223If breadcrumb lake skip is right, then it raises a very important question: why does sans WANT us to break reality, given he seems to be against that in Undertale
>>572203031fucking mettaton isnt gay btw
>>572203262i keep hearing the SPLORCH sound effect on this gif.
>>572203045Fox
Never forget our FUARKING hero...
>>572202737I actually think it was from mike/friend aka a bug in cat petterzmewmew calls you "gel pens" and uses the michaelbomb and her song actually contains the catswing motif
>>572202928At least two in a half
>>572203031he's in love with himself
>>572203398At least Onion II was tasty...
>>572202358I really like this. I wish I could hug Kris.
>>572203201But Anon, we're all AutistSchizos. >>572203263Trust the plan.>>572203315You're gonna draw right now, or else I'm gonna do something to you.And I don't know what that is, because people always draw when I tell them to!
Is there a specific game Mew Mew's sprite style was based on?
>>572202762Pretty sure the comment about Asriel loving the "green lizard who lays eggs" and crying over dropping the lizard into a whole is a double meaning to a future event. On the surface it's haha bing bing wahoo reference, but considering eggs in particular have some narrative role in all of this, I'm inclined to believe that there's more to it than a throwaway homage.
Im spartacus
>>572202360[Booster Shoes] -- Armor0 Defense, but allows you to dash in one of 8 directions when holding a direction and pressing Z during enemy bullet patterns while in standard SOUL mode. Hidden Effect: Lets you jump exactly 1 pixel higher when using the Petal Feather. Almost completely useless.
>>572203045The room besides the entrance.
>>572203398forget? brodie they were delicious
GIRLFRIEND
>>572202435reverse it and make all projectiles faster in exchange for higher damage, that would be fun for speedrunners>>572202498also a fun speedrunner option but i think triple damage is too high, you could miss half your crits and still come out aheadmaybe +25% damage>>572202523the lancer shovel, the strongest susie axe>>572203151my favorite>>572203192could actually be pretty good if you set ralsei to defend each turn, it would count as the whole team defending
>>572203472The dialogue portrait?If you mean the style: I'm pretty sure they were drawn by the Fields of Mistria dev.
>>572203315You will never be able to draw if you never begin in the first place, might as well distract yourself from the depression with something
>>572203031I think he'd fuck anyone who's a true fan of his no matter the gender...>>572203207I really like the casual outfit here so cute! quite erotic too!!>>572203341INFINITE Aura holy shit my king...>>572203289No...!!
>>572203398They'll return and be the one to save us last minute with a cape btw as they went through a full character arc eye patch and big ass blade, and give us the power of friendship boost.
>>572203398Is there a future gohan curi of him fighting the greyniggers
>>572203472if there is I'm almost sure it's something SNES-era. Feels like Chrono Trigger but with a different shading style
>>572203310would wood boobs feel good?
https://x.com/mustangborb/status/2070827489488785756https://youtu.be/n0dgaYe2LZwHE PLAYED US LIKE A GOD DAMN FIDDLE!
>>572202571Crying tears of joy, right? You're happy that Noelle LOVES you, right?
>>572203529This fucking parrot is so damn scary
>>572203472no specific game I could name, but it reminded me of old PC-98 VNs
>>572203262>because she forgot Kris was outIf you give Toriel toast in Chapter 5's beginning and complain about being locked out she says Kris knows where the spare key is.
is there any actual evidence of toby actually being neurodivergent or autisticout of morbid curiosity
>>572203493Hi spartacus I'm gay.
>>572202360Weapon for KrisBonus damage to enemies that have hurt one of Kris' party members
Human, I remember your genocides
>>572203530I hope my homie Pizzapants survives the sex death roll
>>572203589This fucker is actually a serial killer.
>Noelle and Kris clip out of bounds and fall into Undertale>Noelle becomes Chara>Kris becomes Frisk
Do I buy>shoes for extra def for ralsei + that one time I actually use pacifyor>Cowboy hat to sit in storage until there's a fight that might need rude buster again
>>572203620Shut UP Adachi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lj9qI8VFc
>>572203562I dont have it but I have this
>>572203605Is the sky blue?Is the grass green?Just asking these things too!Out of morbid curiosity...
>>572203605>autisticLook at the games you've been playing for 10 years now and ask that part again.
>>572203401Yeah, FRIEND is an obvious candidate for a bug considering its device link. I don't know if the Cat Petterz thing from the Sweepstakes is necessarily canon though. To me, it's like Noelle's blog entry about the Ice Palace. She says it was in Dragon Blazers, which we know is a turn-based RPG, while Mantle is an action RPG. Also the maze doesn't work the same way she described it. So the blog entry was foreshadowing, but not accurate to how things actually happen in-game. Likewise, FRIEND is very likely both a bug and a cat, but not a Cat Petterz bug like in Noelle's blog entry.
>>572203705ITS A SEE THROUGH TABLEPLAY THE GAME
Its very scary how Hometown is seemingly falling apart the closer we get to the roaring. The chief of the police is gone. Asgore is gone. Onionsan is fucking dead. Sans operates a third of the festival by himself. Another stand is operated by a gaster follower and theres
>>572203589No kidding, I already knew about them before I even played DR yet seeing that piece of shit at the lake made my blood run cold. It's really impressive how Toby manages to make something so creepy with so little.
>>572203543Battle sprite
>>572203461i like kris, i want kris to get many hugs from his dinowifey but i can't say that he didn't do it to himself.he sabotaged us every step of the way, he tries to fuck us over both when it comes to getting us to confess to susie or noelle (depending on your moral alignment) he also tries to keep you from getting the shelter codes and has a shitfit if you go weird route while supporting the people that actively bringing it.kris deserves to eat his baumkuchen alone, he deserves to [[All Alone On A Friday Night?]] HE FUCKING DESERVED ALL OF THIS.he deserves to drown in the river.little cuckboy deserves to be such a beta-cuck that a little girl can pressure him into asphyxiating.and if that bitch-ass kris ever comes out alive on the other side, he better fucking have grown some goddamn balls.
>>572203589He looks like an obscure Wojak.
>>572203761w. wait... you weren't supposed to flip that back onto mefuck
HE did THINGS....
>>572202824>only real "friend" was the rich girl at school>closest dark world parallel is a salesman>gets along with Cyber City's richest bitch fairly quickly>collects at least four different types of dark currency>sold Dess and Onionsan off to the Goner mafia>keeps Susie around to fake humble and get money from Noelle>hesitates when you want to take Asriel's money because they know you're gonna waste it in some fuckass diner>technically owns every business in CastleTown, has been investing since the money hole in chapter 1>small rivalry with sans, the other big businessman in hometownIt's a man's world, baby, and the only thing that matters to Kris is that green (inbetween your fingers).
>>572203705far more likely for them to become the human swordsman/magician duo in the intro
>>572203813FUCKING KEK
>>572203759this is actual toby fox dialogue
>>572203707blue shoes give so much defense they're basically easy mode for the rest of the game
What were (You)r three picks?Feels like the glasses are no-brainer but the rest is up in the air
It's gonna be revealed that in order to get the best ending you must play both the Normal route and weird route then you unlock a new save slot that gives you access to a new choice as everything ends in disaster your determination to see everything through a push forward with pure unbridled hope in making a better world JUST for Kris, and will be in synce with Kris in that moment to make everything right!
>>572203837Does he though?Does he really deserve all of this just for fulfilling a promise to a friend?
>>572203401Gel pens also are mentioned written on a cartridge somewhere that belongs to Catti and Catty, I don't have the screenshot on me now though.
>>572203707The Cowboy hat buffs healing spells too, including Susie's.Also there's a good chance Ralsei might get offensive spells.
>>572203858The one eye in the rear view mirror is killing me.
>>572203853I was not even doing that, I was saying toby has to be autistic to be spending years working on this game based off of a dream. But yes everyone in this thread is also some sort of autist.
>>572203562
I know that everything in the game is telling you not to do the Weird Route, that you're going to regret it, that it's going to be terrible. But man I really don't want it to be some shit where Noelle is just dead at the start of Ch 7-B or you wound up in some out of bounds zone but it's essentially just another prison and you're now trapped there forever.
>>572203813lmfao glad to see this comic still being edited
No wonder chapter 5 is so bad its shonenslop
>>572203806Crime has gone down since Undyne disappearence
>>572203941yeah that's what I was getting at , it also makes me wonder if the gel pen is also an angel symbol somehow because of snowdrakes "aint gel" pun
>>572202865>Susie says "If the Roaring happens, all the Darkners will turn to stone, don't you get that??">Noelle says "Fuck the Darkners. They're just fantasies. My dad is real."This is probably how it will go. Susie is too lost in her fantasy and Noelle is too broken to think clearly. I also think Ralsei will do something stupid in a last minute attempt to stop it, thus causing it.
>>572203925Apron, glasses, Hat
>>572203925Apron is free healing when you need TP for an ACT heavy battle, and can't use a healing spell. I see it as a must takeThe last one is up in the air for me, but if I had to pick one, Yellow's Hat for Susie seems like a great option
>>572203925i'm not a believer for the specs, how much does 8 extra inv frames actually give you? are you getting hit on cooldown every single attack?i'd rather just have higher defense on the times i do get hit
>>572203864World of Strength
If Toby is autistic then how can he write character dialogue so well and understand people and social dynamics so well?isn't being autistic kind of make that insanely hard or close to borderline impossible? asking as an autist because I have a really hard time understanding people or characters when trying to write something on my own
>>572203806And there's what? There's what, anon?!
>>572203925Keep in mind netsikehat has only ONE less def than the apronI don't think it will age well
Gaster's strongest soldier is a very high-tier character to me. Very competent. Very brutal. Love him.
>>572202824
>>572203148I mean...I love Aqua but...>Reimu's ribbon>Sakuya's knife skills>Personality that's a mix between two little sister characters Koishi and Flandre, both of which are final secret stage girls>Both 'Who might you be?' and 'Petal Dance use ZUNpets>Meet Aqua near the shrineI could go on but I won't.
>>572204128He's a high-functioning autist, easy
>>572204118>i'm not a believer for the specs, how much does 8 extra inv frames actually give you?Might be a boss that pulls a sans down the line and just ignores standard Iframes that it might be good for.
No wonder chapter 5 is so good it's shonenkino
>>572203472Both the dialogue sprites and the overworld sprites are in the Fields of Mistria style because the FoM artist drew them, and FoM draws on a lot of 90s era Japanese games
>>572203996Kek
Rudy wont die because hes the knight though?
UNDER THE SEAUNDER THE SEASTOP THIS LIVING HELLNO MORE DAMN SUSELLENOW LET'S *PROCEEDLIFE HAS BECOME MORE INTERESTINGEVER SINCE YOU GAVE ME THAT RINGWEIRD ROUTE JINGLEDELTARUNE SYMBOLINSERT SIDE B
>>572203925surprised no one is saying shoes4 def on ralsei's weapon slot is MASSIVE
>>572204185but for every other boss specs will get worse with each chapter as you lose more and more defense from it compared to better armors
>>572204154Subjugating a town for Kris pussy
>>572204128>If Toby is autistic then how can he write character dialogue so well and understand people and social dynamics so well?He trades that for being unable to intentionally write good romantic dialog but constantly writes good romantic chemistry unintentionally. He is cursed in that regard where every official pairing he wants will be weird and hamfisted, but every other character pairing he has no interest in will be super well fitting.
There's been some new Queens
>>572204128Trying being autistic about perspective and vastness of people and their quirks peel them open and understand their essence and peer back into yourselfThen realize you now suffer from depression and still can't talk to people and live alone making stories that feel as realistic to real life people but without the constant fear of rejection and hatred likely caused by your own self loathing
>>572203707the hat. +4 to every stat with an increase to every hurt and heal spell, it's complementary to everyone but Kris. pacify is cheap, defense is still good, the 20% increase is enough to make up for less magic.
>>572204128>>572204128You're thinking of it from the wrong angle. Autists have to become masters at understanding and mimicking social dynamics moreso because of how punished they are for naturally going against the grain. It doesn't come naturally but kinda gets drilled. The best autists can act the part despite their shortcommings. They still have emotions, they still have relations, they still understand people. It's often others who don't understand them, and in turn they can't fully connect with others beyond a surface level. But it doesn't mean they can't still write something that resonates with the human experience. We all experience the same stuff, just through different filters.
>>572204249I mean yeah? That's the case for most of the items though, a lot of stuff like the larger graze zone items are trading BIS stats for effect.
I don’t think queen has ever been funny
>>572204379
>>572203925Aqua/Orange/Blue on one save and Seth/Green/Yellow on another save. Third save hasn't made any selections or finished the chapter yet in case there's fusions or something in the next chapter.
>>572203938kris has been a friend that he forgot to even try to be more.he gambled with time and lost.i don't think toby will make noelle a bad guy in ch6.you need to build up the character and make noelle evoke a feeling of trust for it to be actually shocking that she is like "I AM LE EBIL NAO :DD"like, who's going to take this serious?we would need either of two or three things:>timeskip to build the character up.we literally have no time, the world is ending rather soon.>rudy's (imminent) death sending her into a schizo-spiral, causing her to go beserk on everyone, saying things she does something irrevocable or says something so mean that susie will revoke her sapphic friendship to her.>reveal that dess is the knight and without a single word, noelle will immediately schizz out when seeing the knight and fight us and in doing so, destroys her relationship with susie by saying things that may just reveal qualities that susie might break the friendship over."why did you mention that noelle has to say something mean to susie"because susie has forgiven a lot of darkners going beserk or attacking her, it would need to be something that is unforgiveable, because physical wounds heal, but things said in anger cannot be taken back.but let's be real. toby won't kill off his yurislop pairing.
why did toby make chara make me make noelle drown kris?
>>572204410Lolsorandom and reddit-tier stuff like “bro?” on her eyes is lame
>>572204482He hates women
>>572204448Your second save is your Robot Chicken save, I see.
>>572202824Kris' goal is FREEDOM or "escaping the simulation" even though I don't think Hometown is diegetically a video game world (it's probably some other kind of simulacrum, like a cult compound or science experiment)
This is probably funny as fuck
Hey guys, I think Susie Your dad 're eating my flesh!
Please Noelle stop I can't proceed you anymore, I'm all dry out...
>>572204480I meant his promise to Dess, to find her and bring her back.
why did he do it?
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEAH BABY SWING IT SWING IT PAPI PAPI COO TENNY TOO TV TV TENNY WENNY WOO WOO SWINGAREELIDOO WINNY WOO JENNY RENNY JOO TENNY SHENNY WENNY PENNY FENNY FOO FOO ROO ROO REE ROO ROO! OH YEAHHHHH SWING IT BABY SWING ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTI LOVE TV! TV WINNY WONNAROOOOOOO!
>>572204560for the lulz
Is there anywhere to discuss this game that doesn't move a million miles an hour and isn't full of paedophiles?
>>572204557*Noelle gets close to your ear*"Proceed."
>>572204557SAY IT.
>>572204615Discord
>>572204615andrew cunningham discord server
>>572204336ty sincerely for the reply anonyou've given me a lot to think about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-aRBBsghrQGod why is it so hidden. But then again this was a Camellia track and they can't do what Toby does.
>>572204603I HIDEOUS laugh at this every time, missed it
>>572204505Hate to say it but it's just aged, that kinda humor was in when those first 2 chapters were being made
>>572204560Love of the game. But maybe someone should tell it that gold coins are not legal tender in Hometown.
>>572204615Feel free to go back to twitter or reddit
>>572204557But don't you want to drown...In deer pussy?
>>572204709if your ears didn't pick up that's where it was after the section where she goes "cutie threee" which follows the very end of the freedom motif you need to get better ears
>>572204730Infantile retard humor was always bad
>>572204379potassium
>>572202871>>572203148>>572204174I saw this creature on twitter. She's kind of cute, I will now play your game.
Gaster Mafia and Schizoelle will make these threads good.
Sorry to keep ya' waiting!
>>572203472various PC-98 dating sim games of pornographic nature
>>572204615Your friends!
kris losing susie and noelle sucks but i can understand it for the most part,what ACTUALLY sucks and what i CAN'T handle is how susie is continuing to cockblock us from everyone else as well for no reason??Keeps being a bitch to catti.Stops us from getting bipolar catgirl they/thussyCan't even fuck berdlyIf kris causes the roaring im not gonna blame them whatsoever this kids life sucks ass even if we ignore the SOUL puppeting their empty husk around
>>572204560He has his reasons.https://files.catbox.moe/o6fykr.mp4
>>572204835based
>>572204730It’s definitely aged, but still at the time I never thought it was amusing *shrug*
Today I found out normal is basically just a crooked face and not a bird
>>572204709how the fuck is this hidden in any way are people tone deaf ????
>>572203472Brandish
>>572204821Good but you won't see Aqua until chapter 5. Until then please have sex with the free-use deer girl.
>Shi dislikes are listed as "Kikky & Kawkaw">Nagasagy Kikky Park establishes that Kikky is a cat>Shi calls Kawkaw a dog in battle>Some of Shi's lines reference Sonic the Hedgehog>Hedgehogs are called 針鼠 in Japanese which literally means "needle mouse" or "thorn mouse">Maus also references Sonic>Shi idolizes Orange>Shi is SCYTHE element and uses a Devilsknife-esque attackDog cat mouse/Tom and Jerry theory remains as strong as ever
>>572204773If you can only hear the final part of the motif, then it is in fact hidden.
>>572204868I think toby wrote deltarune with some characters to be more unlikeable
>>572203925Apron for bonus healing, hat for Ralsei, I didn't bother with getting the coins for the last item but I think I probably would have went for orange gloves
>People getting mad at getting cucked in Chapter 5>Kris is also mad about getting cucked in Chapter 5The whole point is to get us closer to Kris so we can truly understand their pain and why they're working with the Knight.
>gets to actually talk shit to our enemies now>fucking firebombs some bitch cunt who was attacking suzie>gets two pretty dang good scenes with Kris>gets the most cluch ability ever during the mew mew fightI could nitpick some parts of chapter 5, but this was definitely Ralsei's best chapter
Why did the Knight run into a wall like a retard?
>>572203925O.Glove might have an extra effect in chapter 6 since Noelle can equip them.
>>572204905The vocals completely overlap it.
>>572204920>chapter 5That's a good thing, right? Episodic games usually have a weaker opening so her being late means they had time to cook her properly. >deerNo thanks, I'll be saving myself for the cute blue creature. Cheers anon.
ANON. Show me your COOLEST pictures of FLOWER MAN
>>572204964It's never been better for him.
>>572204971he fell off a ladder earlier and wasn't in the best shape
>>572204938i didn't say that's the only part you can hear, i was implying that that section specifically was a giant sign that said "THIS ONE'S THE MOTIF"
>>572204868the annoying part is that Susie was written pretty likable in 3+4 so I can't tell if it's intentional or a fumble
>>572204796Kinda goes well with Queen's character though, she's the type to say the stupidest shit to enrage people
>>572204984lowkey feel like noele's never joining our team again in the standard route
>>572204971couldn’t see infront of themselves
>>572204872Kek This Is gold
>>572204518Goddamn it you made me laugh you fucker
>>572204962Meanwhile I'm getting cucked by the Knight stealing Asgore before he can have a proper chat with me.
>>572204868Legit think she's into Kris and whatever is powering the Prophecy is fucking with her head. The talk about being jealous thinking Noelle and Kris were a couple even before the game's events doesn't make sense if it's about Noelle, she hangs out with everyone and Berdy is tied to her hip most days before, but Noelle being the only person Kris spends time with even if it's less now than before makes the jealousy make sense if it's directed towards Kris instead.Toby will of course not do that, and instead all this weirdness is just cause he's brute forcing the relationship.
>>572204971Their eyes are blinded by darkness. The puzzle at the start of the game fucking lied to the Knight they can't see shit while wearing that helmet.
After its all said and done Kris can still marry Ralsei
>>572205016>>572204868>>572204939This is actually EXTREMELY believableif you get a friend who gets that "first crush" they temporarily turn into someone else
The hidden gaster follower, the one they call the hometown butcher. Watch out for him.
>>572205102I have bad news...... no, you'll figure it out.
>follow through with the weird route>canon out-of-bounds kino>try to abort the weird route>male: domination_lossFuck it's all wins for men of taste and cultureWe win no matter what
>>572204964Our boy is growing fast, proud of him
>>572205004>Episodic games usually have a weaker opening so her being late means they had time to cook her properlyThat's a good point actually, yeah you're right.
>miss a few whiteboards>go back to catch up on them to see what I missed>some drawings have been scribbled over>remember you can "copy all" to make a clone whiteboard where you can edit all the lines and uncover all of the drawingsThanks to whoever drew this, too
>>572204962Okay but Kris is cucking me too so he's also going in the woodchipper.
>>572205123Rude, he's a perfectly normal NPC
>Deltarune fans when Chapter 7 is just Durag Johnson executing all of his staff, setting all his notes and harddrives on fire, and saying "Now you'll never know how it ends lmao" before Ronnie McNutting himself. (There could possibly be lore implications to this.)
>>572205123Is this actually the most evil thing we've seen so far on a normal route?
Why didn't that BITCH Pink help flowery against the knight? Quit looking at the grey sun and help him out you dumb bitch.
Kris's promise to the Knight was to not forget who they used to be because all they are now is a memory of that person and if they're completely forgotten then they'll cease to exist entirely.
>>572205123maybe if onion read some books this wouldn’t have happened
>>572202296alright ok one more drawing for tonight. one more.
>>572205131>Male Domination_loss*cums*
>>572205207>the knight is mexican and works on coco rulesRUDYKNIGHT CONFIRMED
Wait, waitA -LIGHTNER- ghost!?
>>572204920ew furry
>>572205160Vessel with the soul in the mouth has to be my favorite interpretation.
>>572204905I think some people just aren't used to Vocaloid vocals so it overpowers the background music for them
>>572205215what the hell dude your noelle is cute
>>572205115I'd believe it but oh my god nigga just kris let fuck the catgirl no one asked you to snitch on kris's game unprompted. that one actually pissed me off in real life like the audacity of this bitch
>>572204971It panicked because /ourhero/ was right behind it>>572205009
>>572205258did none of you read any of the dialogue in this damn fight
It would make sense that Ralsei does not know about Dess. Dess' story is "the tail which must not be followed", while Ralsei's is "the tale with much be followed".
Normal do be looking cuddly, though
>>572205131I hope the global flag for successfully doing the weird route leads to some freaky shit, like a kris + noelle boss fight on the normal route
>>572204894I thought you just made him bloody for a second
>>572205275thank-ya sir.
>>572205325>file.pngThink anon just took the screenshot of his fight. Might have been the one looking for his tenth coin from a bit ago,
>>572205160Everyone is gone, this is the perfect opportunity to steal kris for my vessal!
I just had a thoughtThis chapter is just flowers everywhere. Do the flowers symbolize something specifically? I might go back and try to analyze them
>>572204709Are you retarded
>>572205325Anon, CHECK happens before any dialogue
>>572205146Cumming on her flower in the light world then going into the dark world to see my darkner semen raping her
>>572204962But Kris gets to fuck Ralsei and Mew Mew so they're not truly cucked. Nobody is fucking me except Gaster and he killed my homie Onionsan so I don't even want his ass now. It's completely different.
May cancel the Everyman tattoo and get Aqua instead. Love this little lady like you wouldn't believe. She also matches my Paper Mario Bow tattoo a bit better
I for one am happy onion got chopped up into snacks because he made me very uncomfortable tbqfhbraaaaaaaaabbbllttbbbllttffff
>>572205258Anon, it's mad dummyIn case you forgot, Maddie is one of the three sheet ghost siblings
>be Noelle>born to a rich family>loving dad>strict but caring mom>mom gets you everything you want>mom only asks that you are good in school and dont kiss the smelly hobo>kiss the smelly hobo>mom gets upsetAHH H fuck you mom fuck you dad fuck you girlfriend I am going to kill myself!!!
>>572204971It went full speed ahead like a retard after being taunted about it's speed by Flowery
>>572205439>Lady Bowbased beyond belief
>>572205258sometimes if you knock on the door of the ghost house you'll hear an angry voice instead of the metrosexual one you trade tenna with. This boss is that guy. He likes to enter Asgore's shack while he's sleeping and hide in the doll. Hope that helps, newbuddy!
>>572205258What I'm getting out of this is its definitely a kris/vessel hint but it also makes me think Gaster himself is 2 people, a human soul or a ghost or a demon core posessing a skeleton
>TFW you fucked up a deer girl so badly you're about to skip an entire chapter
>>572205453Yeah but the smelly hobo has a heart of gold and is actually kinda hot
>be female>be retarded
>>572205453this is completely accurate tho. wasn't one of the most insane porn performances a one off by a daughter of a very rich man just to get back at him
>>572205453Sexy smelly hobo... You wouldn't understand...
>>572205496She came pre-fucked up, I just showed her the way.
Why the fuck Anons are saying that the Knight would be executed the moment anyone sees it in the Light World? We literally have monsters like pic related in the Light World.And no, monsters don't have "non-monster" radar, the entire premise of Undertale is that Monsters can't distinguish monsters from non-monsters, and Deltarune is even more down-to-Earth, so magical non-monster detection is even less likely.
>>572205131I feel like Noelle was always a fucking freak considering what we know about her actions In video games but we really pushed her Into the deep end on weird route. Noelle In chapter 5 being hardcore into It and flipping the script going all psycho and dominant makes me question If she did something In the past that made Kris not want to be around her.
>>572205353>like a kris + noelle boss fight on the normal routeAlready happened
>>572205439You are using your body’s canvas very irresponsibly
The Holidays are always full of surprises
>>572205405You still don't get it
>finish Chapter 7 Weird Route>CRT monitor pops up>"Insert Undertale Activity Level C"
>>572205520>heart of goldDon't make me laugh
>>572205434Your semen turns into armor. Good luck defeating her now
>>572205568>Monsters can't distinguish monsters from non-monstersClearly this is not true anymore given that Asgore got really fucking confused by Ralsei
>>572205449I WANT TO FUCK MAD DUMMY?
>>572205434that would kill her, you have to do it the other way around
>>572205609I don't, can you tell me?
>>572205405You can try hanakotoba meanings
>>572205581We are all gonna die someday
>>572205642Prophecy mindbreak, doesn't count, not /oursusie/, etc
>>572205453You are a goycattle that don't understand Noelle's aryan free spirit.
I can't find the fucking PINK coins for the items AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>572205638>deltarune chapter 7 releases>undertale gets an update at the same timeI'd shit bricks
>>572205453Genuinely 100% for real many such cases
>>572205434Bro...that's fucked up. Just fuck her In the dark world like a normal anon, she totally will not get bored and try to knife you.
I am a forgotten man. I'm not really here. You didn't have to notice me.... Please ignore me. I am a man who does not exist. You talk so kindly, I don't know what to do. If I miss people, I cannot live alone anymore. My conversation is always a monologue. I've been alone from the moment I was born... Lucky, unlucky... It makes no difference to me. Sometimes, even breathing becomes too much. Why do you insist on talking to me? Are you a forgotten man, too?
>>572205439how many /utg/ posters have tattoos what the hell?
>>572205679'd 'o.
>>572202360My weapon type is probably Scarf or Ring-5 Def and +15 AT if scarf and +15 MG if ring
>>572205642>hairballWhy is Susie such a vile racist?
>>572205761Sans shows up as you kill both universes plunging everyone into an internal white void where no one can die as a limbo and says "this sure was an Undertale"
https://jcw87.github.io/c2-sans-fight/this is a purity test.beat sans first try and show proof
>>572205831Where is the bird
So we all agree that The Knight is actually Titan Spawn being possessed by either Napstablook or Dummy Ghost?Pink and Gold of Chapter 5, both being lightner/darkner hydrids. Strong hint about the Knight also being like that
Whoes to say Kris isn't the knight we never see them in the same room together?
>>572205642Catti isn't the victim here. She was the one starting shit because of jealousy.
>>572205858Gaster's strongest soldier was the midboss
Uuu~>>572205846Bad time simulator isn't even accurate with regards to timings on sans attacks and spacing of things, it's subtly off enough that muscle memory won't help you
>>572205846I bought UT a week after release and still never beat Sans
>>572205741I immediately gave up and looked up the guide. I only found 14 coins by myself.
Susie's aura loss wasn't just story-based in chapter 5>susie herself tells you not to attack basically anything in chapter 5>sword route in general is pretty unsatisfying in chapter 5>no fight would ever let you get greaterheal off even if you grinding for it to be strong>scythmare is a huge useless meme>meanwhile ralsei gets the better 2d move and the SUPER important skill for the mewmew fight
>>572202214>another fucking Umineko referenceBravo Tobias
>>572205642>Susie gets a girlfriend>immediately starts doing everyone she's ever met dirtySome people aren't meant to receive great fortunes, to keep them humble. She doesn't have the mental fortitude to keep doe pussy around her sadly.
>>572205983Don't worry, Noelle is into it
You have no chance with Noelle you're a dumb poorfag npc.
>>572205952There are 6 that I haven't found. I still want to get the glasses and the hat.I've been running around the garden looking for the 1 that's supposed to be there, but I can't find anything. Wish the smith's tips gave you a slightly better idea where to look.
we aren't calling weird route sword route now, they're two different things. we'll know when it's sword route because it will say it is
>>572205642Catti is a fat femcel and no one would have sex with her100% deserved
>>572205917First of all, the poster said that Susie had a heart of gold. Someone with a heart of gold does not stoop down go for the throat. And know that they're hurting someone else.
>>572205920I mean our bird
>>572205568Asgore could tell ralsei wasnt a monster
>>572206071>gardenprobably the one on top of the feather shrine
>CHIPS AHOY, LANDFAGGOTS!
>>572205642The only negative thing Susie have done in this scene was calling her "Hairball". Everything else is Catti's own hangups.(It's only AFTER this scene Susie shows the real jerk-ass side.)
>>572205642Alvin's old ass just spacing out while this happens
I think I was way too kind to this chapter on first pass.>Tone feels shockingly inconsistent with the stakes set up by Chapter 4, what happened to "we won't let that happen"?>Pacing is a complete mess, easily worse than Chapter 2/3's slogs and gimmicks>Festival is a 20 minute detour that was hyped up for 8 years>Suselle romance is so forced that half the community is convinced Susie is mind controlled or having a mental breakdown>"lmao you thought any of these Lightners were going to be relevant?">Story cuts off a critical reveal for a joke>PENUMBRA CHAOS FREEDOM ENTRY 17 key jingling>There are SIX SEPARATE JABS at people not liking hatless Ralsei, like holy shit we get it>Endless fucking vagueposting, it's actually asinine how often we see the story bring shit up and refuse to address it. "That day" "spoken like a 'real hero'" "you KNOW what happens" "the incident." "says the impossibility" "if you break the rules...">I really need to double down on the vagueposting, the fucking conspiracy notes being read aloud like an AI-generated Dark Souls item description "but... perhaps... the dark crystal...?" is beyond parody>Blue's tumblr prose dialogue>The hang outs suck, most of these read like mediocre Homestuck pages>Asgore effectively written out of his own chapter with 2 entire DW interactions with Kris, he speedruns his entire character arc in one scene before being axed completely>Secret Boss is borderline irrelevant to the chapter>The chapter makes a point of this being the last shadow crystal and egg but does nothing with that information beyond "keep waiting lmao">The Kris torture porn reaches comedic levels>Entire ending is an ass-pull cliffhanger, the fuck do you mean "the knight hit an undetectable frame perfect second fountain" "oh the knight also off-screened Asgore in the 2 seconds it took Flowery to catch up" "I'm gonna leave but jk I'm gonna come back immediately to spot you" "yeah he told me offscreen"Flowery carried this chapter hard.
>>572206061She got them out for free? In this economy!? How brave.
>>572206074There are no routes. It's just Side A and Side B, which are actually just the same route timelooped into each other. Side C unlocks after Ch7 is completed on both A and B. There is only 1 ending.
I gotta say after consuming the digital circus finale, toby might take forever to make a game but at least he isn't a total hack like gooseworx, holy shit what a stupid endingalso I wonder how much chapter 5's impact of "gaster and his followers are actively aware of whats going on and are guiding you down a path of their choosing, this is undertale 2 baby" would have been if chapter 5 released with 3 and 4 like original intended
>>572206074What about calling it lake skip
>>572206071We already told you, its the one on the roof
>>572205923I really love this one!
I'm enjoying the pirate gaster pics
>give ralsei shoes instead of a scarf>still fights with a scarfTOBY
The player must be able to empathize with all the stupid little characters in their messy relationships equally (clopen) or they won't be able to think straight and brick their save
>>572206087Catti is literally the definition of an incel going "I KNOW I NEVER TALKED TO NOELLE OR LET HER KNOW I LIKE HEE AND WERE NOT FRIENDS AND I STOPPED BEING FRIENDS WITH KRIS BECAUSE HES FRIENDS WITH SUSIE BUT I SHOULD DATE NOELLE BECAUSE... BECAUSE IM JUST A NICE GIRL, OK?!!!!"lol
>>572206101getting a snack
>>572206191>>572206109I'll go check it outWhat about the uhhhh>2 cliff>2 castle east>1 top of castle
>>572205846ok
Nice catch!
Why do people pair Papyrus and Sans with Gaster? Sans could just taken the busters after he left and a Gaster that wasn't deleted from existence might look completely different
>>572205917>starting shitShe didn't create the anti-handholding rule to spite them, it was already posted before Susie and Noelle even walked in and presumably comes from Alvin. They broke the rule and all Catti did was mildly scold them because she's working there. She might have been more lenient if she wasn't jealous, but she wasn't being unreasonable by scolding them, they just shouldn't have broken the rule. They can hold hands anywhere else.
>>572206076Shut UP talk about my wife again...you'll get bit
>>572206176I have no Idea what happened in the TADC as I wasn't interested in it just thought "oh that's cute hope it turns out well" and left, now I just keep hearing how bad it was, it can't be THAT bad can it?
Determination in Undertale is a play on “De-termination” meaning that you resist terminationProceed is a play on “Pro-seed” meaning that you are in favour of inserting your seed into people
>>572206270>castle east 2 specificallyi bet its outside the castle, the actual east entrence, room with the golems>top of castleidk about this one these were all easy>cliffyou know past the netsuke climbing, when you run through the dash shrine, keep running, don't go up
>>572206189>>572206171these are all filename terms. we know it's called sword route because that's what the game calls it. side b was what weird route has been internally but people just called it weird anyway
>>572206227> I STOPPED BEING FRIENDS WITH KRIS BECAUSE HES FRIENDS WITH SUSIE Catti saying that was actually a huge piece of cope because Kris actually hasn't considered her a friend for a long time. They're the one who stopped being friends with her after Catti run out on them during the demon summoning ritual.
>>572205973>>572206140
>>572205846got that simp on the first try, Pink stomps desu
>>572206317She didnt see shit, she just assumed lol, they were holding hands in the bowl of grapes so unless Catti is a jealous femcel(she is) she should have 0 issue
>>572206270Cliff is just exploring, I don't know how you miss one .Castle is probably the one outside the Foyer, Fox and the one you go left after the 3d switch.Top of the castle idk, that shit is basically a straight line.
Did toby became mean spirited?
flowery cockhttps://files.catbox.moe/t5rywq.png
>>572206061Catfuckers are eating real good this time, huh.
SEX WITH PINK
>>572206317That wasn't hand-holding, it was finger-grabbing, and anyone with eyes can see that it was accidental. The rule should have stated "one at the time" or something instead.
>>572206337It all makes sense, Susie, Noelle, her mom & Dad, Ralsei, Berdly.... Everyone exists to carry Kris's seed...
>>572206414I wanna say people are reading into it too much but I started doubting that after the fourth seething over Ralsei's hat.
>>572203806
>>572206167Speaking the truth
>>572206374>after Catti run out on them during the demon summoning ritual.Another thing she did wrong and possibly what started the entire game and the SOUL possession btwCatti is a fat useless femcel whore and NO ONE in hometown wants to have sex with her
>>572205642Kill Susie. Behead Susie. Roundhouse kick Susie into the concrete. Slam dunk Susie into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Susie. Defecate in Susie's food. Launch Susie into the sun. Stir fry Susie in a wok. Toss Susie into active volcanoes. Urinate into Susie's gas tank. Judo throw Susie into a wood chipper. Twist Susie's head off. Report Susie to the IRS. Karate chop Susie in half. Curb stomp Susie. Trap Susie in quicksand. Crush Susie in the trash compactor. Liquefy Susie in a vat of acid. Eat Susie. Dissect Susie. Exterminate Susie in the gas chamber. Stomp Susie's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Susie in the oven. Lobotomize Susie. Mandatory hysterectomy for Susie. Grind Susie in the garbage disposal. Drown Susie in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Susie with a ray gun. Kick Susie down the stairs. Feed Susie to Gaster Goners. Slice Susie with a katana.
>>572206386Everything from that video is gold
>>572206272>>572206403 ∧＿∧(´∀｀ ) | _ r- V ﾉ しゝしゝ _)$...$...$congrats. have a dog dollar
wow, what a cunt
>>572205070Susie is, as corny as it sounds, really high on love and friendship right now. She's experienced more affection in a couple days then she has possibly in the rest of her life. She's also under some stress after realizing that her and Kris' adventure is not just a fun little romp she was on board for and cannot see the full truth yet, so her natural reaction to deal with it is to lean more into "YAY FRIENDS" to try and tune it out. This leads to her literally moving away from reality, save for Noelle who she sees as special for obvious reasons. She is also a spin on a typical all-loving protagonist who will pull through with the power of friendship, and as such, her morality is naive and self-centered, hence her acting like a jerk despite trying her best to be good. She doesn't see Kris issues with the situation at hand because she's fully shifted her focus onto something else and takes Kris for granted because they've always been there. TL;DR it all comes down to Susie not seeing small details and then being in denial when she does start to notice them.
>>572206330trannies are surprised that the trannyslop had corn in it for some reason
>>572206227>I NEVER TALKED TO NOELLE>WERE NOT FRIENDSPlay the game, Noelle is the one who says she visits Catti's house and watches movies with her. They are friends, or at least "friends" since Noelle obviously hates Catti but is too cowardly to say it to her face or break off their frienship.>I STOPPED BEING FRIENDS WITH KRIS BECAUSE HES FRIENDS WITH SUSIEKris stopped being friends with Catti because of the ritual. Catti was still willing to be cordial with them even though they completely dumped her and only stopped because Susie antagonized her while she was with Kris.
>>572206343Anon, don't be retarded. Sword route exist only in Chapter 3. In internal files "weird" and "side b" are interchangeable.
Ralsei deserves to be a bit annoyed and express himself but he was a little too mean to jaOrange.
Dating someone that scared a kid and made an ex-friend cry looks bad for Noelle. At the very least it should be a major mood killer for more than 5 seconds.
>>572203806The Gasterite faction is taking over Hometowm
>>572206419yep
>>572206410>>572206341thanks, I'll check these out
>>572206406They get kicked out and banned for doing it on the weird route, Susie talks about it if you try to go to the church before going to the lake.
>>572206471Ralsei's hat thing was annoying in Chapter 5. It's the main thing that kinda soured my perception of Chapter 5.
>>572206416I'm sorry, but you really need to draw a little bit more, this is just unfinished
>>572206414No, just Ralsei
Sex with Blue?
>>572206493>t.Cope moar fatti
>>572203806bro got taken out by normalnpc mid sentence
>>572206551That's what I said. I'm saying don't mix them up or make new definitions for terms with existing specific usages. Sorry if that was unclear.
>>572206490>Another thing she did wrongShe was scared (because she's a pussy) and she ran out. That's a perfectly reasonable reaction to a scary situation. She actually believes in the magic remember to her it's not a game or anything, she just got cold feet.Even so she then has gone on to apologize to Kris many times and clearly feels very bad about it.Catti's whole story is kinda tragic honestly. At least she has Jockington for Snake Sundays, ironically the Snake is the only friend who hasn't snaked her.
if the castle town fountain is sealed in an emotional climax and you recruited mad dummy is she just gonna walk out of the school closet like "okay i guess i'm going now bye guys"
what then fuck is going on slow the fuck down threadsI was looking at this yesterday and I'm like 6 threads back
>>572206317Susie accidentally grabbed Noelle's hand and didn't even realize she was doing it until Noelle told her, you call that handholding? And she insulted Susie by calling her beast.
>>572206497What video?
>>572205009
Did Catti consider losing some weight and not being a fat fuck?
>>572206687Turn that frown upside down! Ooh, I'm gonna boop ya! Yup, boop ya!There, now don't you feel better?
>>572206654as a cattifag is it bad that i'm excited for the rips from this chapter because we got so many new unique catti sprites even though a bunch of them are just her being upset.
>>572206406They literally talked about holding hands out loud. That's why we the player know they did it, because we can't see shit either.>>572206436>accidentalYou can't really believe this, be serious
>>572206471I never got why Ralsei's hat thing is supposed to be Toby being mean-spirited. The hat represents Ralsei hiding his identity, something that he doesn't really like to do unless he feels it's absolutely necessary. Flowery putting the hat on Ralsei is him being a jerkass on purpose and also goes to show that Ralsei obeys the rules of the game way too much, since if he didn't still have some of the NPC mentality, he'd just take it off.
>>572206710https://files.catbox.moe/0752wn.mp4 It was posted last thread
>>572206629It’s a pretty view Long way ahead
I'm seeing parallels between Catti and Ramb am I way off base or onto something
>>572204054>police disappear>crime goes downDoesn't this mean that criminals themselves are disappearing too? Isn't that way worse? What the fuck is happening to all these people? We haven't even seen Monster Teen and Snowdrake again and we know those two hang around the bunker
>>572206756It was a cheesy romance scene straight out of anime. I 100% believe it
>>572205321>Objects in rearview are closer than they appear, oldbuddy
Since Toby is a servant of Big Nuance the thing with Catti probably isn't just as straightforward as her being jealous and this causing Susie's ostracization since he doesn't like his main characters being pure victims
>>572206330ill give some rough spoilers since anyone interested probably read it and im not bothering with spoiler tags.pomni effectively lets jax walk off with the most blatant "this nigga gonna kill himself" vibes possible to the point where for the first and only time they add a voiceover of pomni going "I wish I didnt let him go" as a sign that it was poorly made and then it cuts abruptly to him fully abstracted like a cutaway gag. abstraction being basically a berserk beast that calms down in the dark.she then connects to jax's abstraction and abstraction is revealed to be a sort of mindscape where the abstracted person is fully sentient and aware in the center, surrounded by apparitions of their personality traits as well as their worst memories. effectively hell.jax cries and it hints at him being trans (later confirmed by gooseworx because she was mad people thought it was ambiguous) but then it just ends with Caine who died coming back and everyone accepting him back almost instantly. but jax and all the other abstractions are just tossed in an aquarium/zoo tent fully abstracted with no hint of them being able to fix it.some people that liked jax is mad they're trans and effectively deadsome people are mad that gooseworx didn't reveal a lot of important informationsome people are mad gooseworx neglected every other character to turn the show from "fun wacky adventures with some dark comedy" to "THE JAX SHOW"also the creator has been pulling a jk rowling on tumblr answering questions for like 3 days so even if she acts like she's calm and unbothered its evident she's 100% bothered by this to a degreebonus - she also said that she is burned out because she didn't have a writing team, effectively meaning glitch productions probably cut their main moneymaker short by not giving her more resources
>>572206771No one will shed a tear for her.
>>572206748at least we got catti's gel pen referenced again in the mew mew fight
>>572204650>P R O C E E D
>>572206414>Makes fun of the freedom motif obsession during the Trashy & co fight>Uses the Mikes to vent about theorizing based on a cool idea and nothing else>Still mad about Ralsei with hat being a superior design>Makes Yellow obsessed with suicide to shit on Undertale Yellow and Woody theorist in a 2 for 1 specialI think he's taking the piss a bit too much but the only things I think he genuinely doesn't like are Ralsei with Hat lovers, people begging for Muffet, and Togore jokes
>>572206698Susie called her a furry degenerate >>572206737At least Catti looks like a girl and unlike dyke butch Susie
709bait
>>572206560Honestly, both parties are kind of in the wrong for this one - Ralsei for keeping to push Orange's buttons because he got his first taste of being sassy and Orange for being a crybaby. It kind of mirrors the conflict between Flowery and Ralsei, where the bully is well-meaning but still acts like an asshole.
>>572206835...said kris dreemurr?
>>572206887>Like a girl*Hamplanet
>>572206887>Susie called her a furry degenerateThat was Catty! Seriously why does this happen so often? People constantly mix up Catty and Catti and like I get that their names are one letter different but it's really not hard to remember and they're completely different characters! even if you're only half paying attention you must notice that surely?
>>572204054>crime disappears>the one taking account of crime does not exist anymore>"crIMe weNT DowN"anon that's like saying, lets make murder legal to make crime statistics go down.
>>572206832Well Susie also took Jockington's hat once, but then Toby felt the need to add the note that Catti only started hating Susie once Noelle told her that she had crush on Susie. Apparently every conflict in town stems from Noelle, even Susie picking on Kris was because she thought Kris and Noelle were an item instead of just being envious of their seemingly comfy life.
>>572206330It was fucking terrible, Anon.>Pomni revealed to be a middle aged dude who got suckered into an experimental video game in exchange for a literal pack of cigarettes>Jax revealed to be a tranny who's angry at the world because he (she???) is too ashamed to accept their inner tranniness and so it manifests as being an asshole to everyone around them instead>Ragatha was Pomni's mom the entire time, and it turns out Pomni actually wasn't a moron and joined the digital circus program to save his mom after seeing news reports about the program making people into literal zombies>Like resident evil style zombies>The entire digital circus program is making people into zombies and nobody can stop it because all the engineers who worked on it are brainless zombies, so nobody understands the source code to reverse it>Pomni is actually a master hacker and realizes she (he) can write code to glitch the boot partition of the digital circus, and a simple reboot will load up a regular Linux operating system instead of the digital circus>"But then, what happens to us???" says Ragatha >"...I don't think we make it...but it's what's right." says Pomni>Jax says he's not going to die without first coming out the closet>Reveals he's trans, always wanted to be a woman>Some surreal scene of a closet with locks and makeup/dresses and such inside>Pomni undoes locks with hacker powers>Jax becomes a woman>Turns out the program actually fails if there are no males present within it>No need to even kill everyone with hackerman powers, the digital circus shuts down>Everyone escapes to the real world>Pomni reunited with mom>Jax becomes a mom (Pomni impregnates her tranny pussy somehow)Pure shitshow. Saw it in theaters with my daugher and honestly almost felt like grounding her just for making me watch that trash.
any good books on understanding social dynamics like toby fox does
I really hope Susie doesn't come from an abusive home and it turns out she's just poor.Because that'd be kinda funny if that's what it was the entire time.
The black shards just lying around are the evidence that the Knight is working on a borrowed time. Every time it uses it strength to fight or open the fountains, parts of it shatter. It's actively shedding glass shards when exerting it's strength. This is why Knight delegates so much to Kris and chapter Bosses.
>>572206986ok that made me laugh
>>572205203bratty making pizzarina is more cruel
>>572206330Basically the entire show was just "This character is trans, that's the end".
>>572206672Only after she slings Kris over her shoulder.
>>572206934Our fuarking HEROES...
>>572206835Ah okay...Why did Chara make her write TADC like this?
>>572206737She's just big-furred
I liked Catti when I thought she hated Susie for the same reason most characters hated Susie and she was going to deliver some deserved pushback against the idea that Susie is perfect, but now it's confirmed she's just jealous of Susie's ability to pull "top shelf" girls I feel like I wasted my time.
Toblerony Fox sent me this chapter 6 screenshot
>>572206832>Toby is a servant of Big Nuance
Is Gold Flowery the only boss that's not working for the Knight? King, Queen, Tenna, Titan all furthered Knight's agenda.
>the tranny cartoon made by trannies for trannies was about tranniesI'm shocked. Almost as shocked as when Susie hooked up with Noelle Holiday in the latest installment of the sequel to renowned gay furry game UNDERTALE
>>572206981>even Susie picking on Kris was because she thought Kris and Noelle were an item instead of just being envious of their seemingly comfy life.I think the Noelle thing is just another part of the seemingly comfy lifeEverything's clopen and nothing has a strict single cause
>>572207070A match made in hell
>>572207070why is battat cheating on fujo???
>>572206934kino.
>>572207008Thats one and the same, thoughPoor people shouldnt be allowed to breed, having a kid when you are poor IS abuse>In b4 "Eugenics"I guess im an eugenecist if I think people in the slums giving birth to a baby forever condemnee to the slume is a bad thing
>>572206835>jax cries and it hints at him being trans (later confirmed by gooseworx because she was mad people thought it was ambiguous)>Writer's self insert character who's an unlikeable asshole and kills themselves is transMANY SUCH CASES
>>572204005if you think deltarune was "subversionslop" where toby fox analyzed every tvtropes article to make sure he wasn't ripping off something without putting some fun little twist or gimmick on it, then you'd have a fucking heart attack if you tried to watch even one episode of TADCit's made by a person who has consumed too much media, and is constantly trying to subvert the autistic "wow this is so tropey" crowd far more than the neurotypical crowd
The Knight doing the sword bit implies save-editing is considered as "real stats" and I find that amusing
In Gerson story probably the Ralsei equivalent burned the flowery equivaleny
>>572206981>Well Susie also took Jockington's hat once, but then Toby felt the need to add the note that Catti only started hating Susie once Noelle told her that she had crush on Susie.So Catti dgaf about Jockington?
>>572207165But I'm poor Anon...
>>572207012If looking through the sharts makes you see shit that isn’t actually happening does this mean the knight has been seeing the world through a schizo lens the entire time
>>572207098King was just doing what he wanted thinking the Knight willed it, same thing with QueenTenna was the only one really on the Knight's payroll but even he had Kris as the go-between and Kris's loyalty to the Knight is questionable especially with the Danger Seeds they just got
>>572207005Sneaking away to secretly smoke cigarettes with other departments at the amusement park I worked at taught me more about people and conversation than any high school and college did. If we got busted by our team lead but she was stressed out, if we gave her one, she wouldn't say anything. I'm rambling. Social dynamics are best learned hands on because the people that write about them are senior level and don't really remember what it's like for everyone else.
>>572207195is that the hometown grim reaper
>>572206986This is Bullshit. But I believe everything you said and I will now die for as your strongest soldier.
>>572206881Also add in the term Omega Flowery, and the flowers all having the virtues from the golf minigame that everyone just kind of ran with despite the fact that they're never tied to the souls, or even mentioned outside of said golf minigame.You might also add in the Ralsei "pink and blue drink" scene (and the fact that he never even gets a chance to drink it) and Tasque Master in a nun outfit. (though, that one is just a bit of fanservice that Toby doesn't want to outright be seen as sexy)
>>572207168stop being antisemitic
>>572207098None of them are working for the Knight. >King just takes advantage of the situation and assumes the Knight gave him this chance to strike his enemies down.>Queen assumes the Knight's intentions were to allow her to create a perfect world where Lightners could live perfect lives.>Tenna assumes the Knight's intentions are to keep Toriel in storage and was told by a direct affiliate of them to keep everyone busy until the Knight can come collect her.>The Titan has no mind, it just destroys.
why the fuck are you retards talking about digital circus.you are clowns already.
>>572207220WRONGPREDICTABO
>>572206639It was gonna be scrapped but I thought it would be fun to share anyways
>>572207254*squirts my little flower in your face*
>>572202415It's not the prophecy, it's the creator of the current experiment who ingrained this in Susie's mind. She doesn't know, but her creator(s) know.
>>572207208Then dont breed until you're at least lower middle class?Fuck all you want, just dont codemn your child to a life of being a talentless poor person
>>572207220No, because it can take off the helmet.
it's funny watching tadcit's like all of the bad qualities of toby's writing with none of the good qualities remotely presentmost of the characters in that show have no developmentthis is NOT a character oriented show first, it's a plot-focused show first, character-oriented show second
Do darkners have to pee?
>>572207309Anon...Lower Middle Class IS poor.
Kris:book about living a double life and lyingSusie:isekai slop about replacing the heroineNoelle:Time Stop/Hypno Rape doujin
>>572206972Someone said Catty is married earlier which makes me think they managed to confused with Catty's unnamed mother. It's honestly fascinating. These characters aren't even the same color.
>>572207252noyvey
If Toby goes all in on making Ralsei a tranny I'm actually gonna kill him. Ralsei is a perfect cute boy he doesn't think he's a girl
>>572207309You are definitely underage and/or poor and seething about it
>>572207005The other guy is right, you really need to work in some kind of team for an extended period (years) to truly get it. My writing after almost a decade of working with the same people and observing people is far more advanced than it was before when I was relying on tropes.I will also say that Toby is unironically a fucking genius and doing it like he does is aspirational, not a solid goal. I have been swearing up and down since Chapter 2 that very few people can ever write characters like he does.
>>572207098None of them actually knew what the Knight really wanted so eh not really it's more like they're just hoping they understand it's motives
>>572207291>flower-to-flower communication.
>>572206835lmao unbelievable money maker absolutely blown up because tranny can't stop making everything about how much having a dick is the worst thing that can ever happen to a person in the universe
>>572204905>Heh. I totally heard it, yall just deafKys dishonest faggot
>>572206416finally some flowery x ralsei…
the final questionhttps://poal.me/sbinc7https://poal.me/sbinc7https://poal.me/sbinc7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZi-hjkmfRY
>>572207173You could not pay me to watch anything attached to a snow nigga with a head inflation/head drilling fetish man I'd rather buy YIIK
Dess wears glasses right
>>572206757>Flowery putting the hat on Ralsei is him being a jerkass on purposeRalsei hides from Asgore every time they're on screen together and puts the hat back on in the final scene. It's just Ralsei being a bitch knowing Flowery is right.
>>572206986>my daugherThis is how I know your post is bullshit
>>572206560It was symbolic of how Ralsei really feels about the player but can't express because we aren't small and powerless like Orange.
>>572207337>it's like all of the bad qualities of toby's writingIt's just tumblr slop, that's all any of that shit is and it's what Toby suffers from time to time as well. We really shouldn't have let tumblr ban porn, the containment break it caused has done irreparable damage to the internet.
>>572207353Not reallyby lower middle class I mean>An apartment appropiate enough for all the members of the house>Able to provide good education, clothes+food for the child and their own space>Has a car>Can send the child to college
>>572207309There is no class escalation anymore you retardThe middle class is in the process of becoming the lower class, and the lower class is in the process of becoming homeless and starving to death as the top 1% becomes even richer
>>572205846>fourth time chumpI've brought shame and dishonor to my familyI also forgot how hard Megalovania goes in this fight
>>572207359All the "princess" moments are written in very carefully picked vague language. Honestly, it's very impressive how it's done to accomodate both parties.
I can't believe the SOUL doesn't have the power to make Kris have seizures on demand.I can't believe Susie and Ralsei can steal my fucking TP YOU'RE DOING THAT ON YOUR OWN TP SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED
Have you heard of KrisThey are quite the scampWhen it comes to mischief, mirth, and betrayals they're the champ
Wait, Mad Mew Mew used to be a dude?
>>572207520tadc fans are raiding it seems...
IFch6 makes noelle into a villain and it fucks suselle apart, i'm cancelling my weird route.but you know what? it won't happen.so it'll keep getting weird.
>>572207361Yes im poor retarded kek, my life is basically ruined because I was born poor and the only things that give me joy are deltarune and this thread
>>572207524Mad mew mew used to be a fucking sheet ghost
>>572207524undertale version
>>572206663I think by "Sword Route" Anons mean "Twisted Sword" route, where you abort in ch2 after getting Thorn Ring, then craft it with Pure Crystal into Twisted Sword in ch6 (or 7). ch5 just confirmed we're not getting Pure Crystal in the Weird Route because you can't get Shadow Crystal in ch5 Weird Route.
>>572207220Black shards aren't shadow crystals. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
>>572207480>I also forgot how hard Megalovania goes in this fightThere's a reason people still talk about it.
>>572207459Anon what you're describing is more like upper middle class than lower middle class....
>>572207515Noelle is gonna peg this in Chapter 7
>>572207405you literally go to the edge of the map and glitch out of bounds and have to restart the program with a crt filter and hotswap the disc like it's playstation
Will hometowner not react at all that undyne and asgore disappeared?Is it part of the plot or a convenience used by toby?
>>572207440Like I said, Ralsei does it when it's really necessary, at least from his point of view. What Flowery does serves a purpose of getting Ralsei to stop being so rule-obsessed, but he's absolutely still being a cunt.
Suselle? Two girls together???Impossible, who is going to make the baby?
>>572207524no a genderless ghost
>>572207524Worse. a They/Them.I still can't imagine a Mad Dummy that doesn't have a deep gruff boston accent, but maybe I can imagine him as a girl all along.She died during her time of the month, that's the lore explanation.
>>572207368>being in a social circle for years is enough for someone to become a master at social dynamicsEruhhh we sure about that? I still feel like there's some missing gap of knowledge for me when it comes to writing, even though I've been in many social circles
>>572207008I almost fully believe she is either a how to draw dragons darkner that ascended, or a gaster experiment with no real backstory
I think this needs to be saidKris is a boy, so logically, if you lust after Kris, you are homosexual.
>>572206304Why did they do it? What did Onion see that would be detrimental to Ghaster's plans if Kris found out? I thought Ghaster and crew wanted Kris to learn about the glitched fucked up side of the world. Why wouldn't they want Kris to meet Onion?
>>572207646I can give birth
>>572207524Ghosts don't have gender
>>572207008susie reaction to drunk toriel is a red flag
>>572207646Me
>>572207561Score64...
>>572207646iPS cells.
>>572207624In Undertale, everyone everywhere instantly knows if you killed someone. In Deltarune, they're all NPCs stuck in their walking loop.
>>572207653>>572207545>>572207423>>572207337>>572206986SERIOUSLYWHY *ARE* TADC FANS RAIDING THE GEN RIGHT NOW?WHAT THE FUCK
>>572207678we know Queen
>>572207686>Only Kris is still lying to SusieSusie will find out in chapter 6, won't she...?
I need Kris to be happyMy happiness is dependant on Kris being happyI will blow up hometown with a bomb if they tell me to
>>572207701
>>572207724>raid>nowanon...
>>572207624Considering Noelle goes off about how the towns people just ignore shit when she's talking about Kris being interesting all of a sudden, I assume it's going somewhere.
Do you really think Susie is capable of raising a child?
>>572207440Why doesn't Ralsei want Asgore to see him? Yea he looks like Asriel, but like...what's going on with that? He's not actually Asriel, so...
>>572207686It keeps happening
>>572207698I mean, watching the woman that you look up to acting like a drunken fool would be painful to watch regardless of background.
>>572207772Yes
>>572207659Susie existing in a timeline that Shadow Crystals show kinda undermines that point. Also she tells you her backstory in ch3 and ch4.
>>572207662counter argument: Aqua in the current chapter is meant to be a young version of Kris, and Aqua is one of the few flowers to call herself a girl
>>572207724Both TADC and the Tobyverse (and therefore this thread) have a very sizeable LGBTQP+ fanbase, and so the venn diagram is basically a circle
>>572207724Toby brought the trannies with the latest chapter, blame him.
>>572207724>nowkiddo...
>>572207772No
>>572207662Kris is a girl.
>>572207646Kris will be their surrogate mother. Berdly can be the father
>>572207804Kris was confirmed to be a corpse at the ch5 intro, so genitalia has rotted away anyway. That's the reason for "they".
>>572207598She's so lucky
>she broke your promise>everyone just laughs
>>572207783Why is this such a problem? Most people act like idiots when they get hammered. I legit don’t understand why so many people get raw over toriel drinking with sans
>>572207749bombs won't make kris happy i played the mad mew mew fight
>>572207804O hell na, flowers are gay
My take on pirate Gaster.
>>572207776I think it's him not wanting to be compared to Asriel now that he's trying to be his own person. Either that or he doesn't want to complicate things by making Asgore ask too many questions.
>>572207891>every yurislopper hates suselle now>yurisloppers just make kriselle into yuriyou can't help yourself, huh?
>>572207778More likely than you think
>>572207653Just being in social circles isn't the same. I can (and have) be friends with someone for a decade+ without ever experiencing real dynamics. It's easy to keep people at arm's length. You have to actually work with someone, closely, for a long time, to start getting it. Also required is basic empathy, but that's a given.The false pathway is the schizoid pathway where you spend all of your time thinking about other people's perspectives instead of actually experiencing them, and I really don't recommend this. Of everything in this world, people are by far the hardest to simulate. That's why making a "real" character like Noelle or Susie or Kris is significant.
>>572207923Love it
>>572207869>Kris Dreamer voted as king of festival as a kidYeah right.
>>572207914She's making merriment whilst our compatriots are embroiled in a plot!
>>572207923Big shot vibes
Rudy is the KnightCarol is the KnightDess is the KnightIs Noelle the ONLY Holiday that is NOT the knight?
>>572207724we ain't fans nigga we punching down at the kids on the shortbus to make ourselves feel better about chapter 5 not being FRIENDkino
>>572207804doesn't mean it's literally kris or an actual biofoid though, imo. that's just a flower.
>>572207937I never cared for Suselle, I'll just take any excuse to post femKris.
>>572207906>Noelle being cute and just holding your other earHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMy heart...
>>572207982Who the hell is Kris Dreamer? Also Noelle votes Susie as King and you can vote Noelle as King too, it's not limited by gender
Okay, so this didn't really work out well last time I asked.I need a good JRPG with good characters and story to take my mind off of Deltarune. (I tried setting loose criteria, but I'm in a particular type of mood, I guess)Hopefully something old enough to emulate so I don't have to buy anything. Looking for something more RPG than walk-n-talk with RPG elements.I tried playing OneShot, but unfortunately, I'm on Linux, which means the game's meta elements make it kind of a pain to actually deal with. (and from what I've heard, it'll only get way worse)I'll probably be playing it on this thingy. It's what I played my last Undertale run on over a year ago.
>>572207914I can tell you were never a 7 year old afraid of what alcohol did to an older person or parent. Children don't understand it.
>>572207962The FUCK I am doing there?I can't even tell you jackshit else this lil simpson looking bitch starts to undermine me.
>>572208030blursed.i will allow it with VERY mixed feelings.carry on.>>572208026>biofoidyou mean a WOMAN.
>>572207982King just means they're the one wearing the pants
>>572207772Yes, poorly.
>>572202293Maddie is a donut duchess?
i would like to issue a formal apology to Burghleyi don't think he'd friend/cockblock kris even half as bad as susie did
>>572208061that's the guy that levitates and pulls women in half i think
>>572207662Kris is the Dreemurr princess
>>572207971does being autistic happen to make this learning process harder or just different
Tbh Noelle alwayd felt like a rapist, remember when she wanted to touch Susie's tail?
>>572208065Xenogears
>>572208010Gyftrot is the Knight
>>572208065YIIK
>>572208127It depends on the type of autism you have
>>572207914Because they just got done going through some shit trying to find her in the Church Darkworld, only to find out she's been home the entire time getting drunk with some guy she just met, acting like a retard, while we're locked out of the house.And she's the most moral person in town besides like Alvin, so all of this would be quite shocking.Just look at the fan reactions to the scene, we're all Susie in that scenario.
>>572208134>She wants to touch Susie's tail>I want to touch Susie's tailWE ARE
>>572204872I cackled
>*transfems your favorite character*Nothin' personel, princess!
>>572207962Spamton would never lie to me.
>>572208072Susie is 16-17. Anyways, that’s not the point, anon are you 7? Is everyone who is on the other side of this conversation a child? No, you know better
>>572208134Noelle showing a complete lack for other people's boundaries isn't exactly uncommon.(I don't have an image of her choking Berdly, so imagine I posted that instead)
So if I want to finish the Mad Mew Mew fight I'm FORCED to get a trans GF? Where's my consent in all this?
>>572208065Legend of Mana
The Knight is an old Holiday family relative that they summoned and it took Dess awayI like that better than FRIENDKnight so fuck you
>>572207906>he waves at you from the windowAsriel is the forgotten man
Gentlemen, I come bearing heavy news...
i can't take this much longeri'm getting close to just modding papyrus into all the chaptershow hard would it be to just add an npc in front of sans' house with 2 lines of dialogue?
>>572208187rouxls kaard beat him to it THOUGH
Did i miss any new aqua porn?
>>572208187asriel is already a tranny, he transitioned into a flower with depression.
>>572208065Lisa the Painful
>>572208173>while we're locked out of the house.Kris knew where the spare key was, she says as much the morning after if you say you were locked out. Still think Tori was wrong for just getting trashed while her kid was nowhere to be seen at night but still
>>572208134the tail of hell
>>572208236Papyrus is the knight
>>572207686at this point
kressel slop
>>572208065Final Fantasy VI T-Edition
>>572208127Really depends where you land on the spectrum. I know at least 1 autistic person who will never understand social dynamics (the type of person to blurt out some sexual innuendo in public). But I also know many autistic people who can learn and/or be taught to the point of proficiency. Also, if you're under 25, don't stress too much about it, because you're not even really a person yet.
>>572208281>Kris knew where the spare key was, she says as much the morning after if you say you were locked out.Susie doesn't know that Kris knew where the key was, and she was there for that reveal you dingus.
>>572208083i said what i said.i think still think reading aqua as literally just younger kris doesn't really work though, it's more like just a very heavy parallel and it doesn't really follow through if you try to do the same logic with any other flowers>>572208134noelle's never been good with respecting boundaries people just kinda ignored it until now because it was treated more like a comedic cartoon over-reaction to stuff at the time and she's surrounded by pranksters and goofs
>both secret bosses from the demo were interesting new characters >2/3 secret bosses from the paid release are characters ripped straight from undertaleToby is a nigger kike who scammed me
>>572208173>we're all Susie in that scenario.No, “we” are not. Did you grow up thinking adults in places of power were saints? Toriel thought they were just hanging out, the door shouldn’t be unlocked
>>572208204The point of the fight is that your consent doesn't matter and you have to do whatever Kris wants or else you are evil even though they're the one who stole you from your vessel
>>572208230he's a BOY in touch with his FEMININE SIDE HE'S A MAN WHO LOVES CROSS-DRESSING AND BEING A FEMBOY AND IT'S OKAY FOR HIM TO JUST BE THAT GOD DAMN IT
>>572208281The fucked up part about that scene is she just straight up lies and says she tried to call Kris when, specifically, this time there's no missed calls after the dark world-- only deleted contacts and recent callers from the Holiday House.
Honestly I had a pretty hard time just being nerfed Regular-ass Story FloweryI think I'm getting filtered out of the side content
>>572208383It's what the people want
>>572208307he still goes into the light world though, susie sees the knight in the light world in chapter 3
>>572207662Not in my save file.
>>572208395It's posts like this that remind me that most of the people in this fandom either didn't play the game or play it with their eyes closed.
Seth love
>>572208230Everyone already knows that Ralsei is an alien lifeform from the wormwood meteor. This isn't news.
>>572208427I thought this too but the power of learning is unstoppable. You can do it if you put the time into it.
https://vocaroo.com/14pcyPBNgfiDman room section is at 2:22
>>572207740>Susie will find out in chapter 6, won't she...?Nope. Nothing ever happens.
>>572208479yeah she is cute
>>572208414Got it, so transfem
>>572208337Speaking personally as a properly diagnosed one, it's not like I don't have any empathy or anything, autists actually are very good at empathizing, better than most people honestlyThe problem is that things like body language, and word choices pissing people off are impossible for me to understand and account forAnd for that matter, I've kind of strayed towards being a schizoid over the years because every friend I've made has inevitably backstabbed me or used me up like a dishrag
Deltarune is written too neurotypical for us autists to understandYou're supposed to care about how people feel about what you do and not just how you think they ought to feelThat's why the seemingly innocuous scenes of Toriel partying with Sans and Susie closing the door on Kris are like thatIt's not about what they're doing in a vacuum, it's about the context surrounding that and how other characters might feel about it
>>572208479Do you think they will ever actually meet?
>>572208431The people are retards.
>>572208473What did I say that was wrong
>>572208479Seth huge tittieshttps://x.com/Doodle_Will/status/2070956562596642821?s=20
>>572208267a drawchad came in with this >>572175381 earlier
>>572208065You should look into the Toby Fox inspiration (ripoff) catalogue so games like Live-a-Live, the Breath of Fire series (I cannot recommend the PS1 games enough), the Final Fantasy games, Chrono Trigger, the Mother games, etc.There's also Brandish but that's a pure dungeon crawler
Seth's stinky armpits
>>572208498The power of learning is unstoppable, but time and other factors also degrade critical ingredients like reaction time and physical reflexesI'm just unc dude I can't do bullet hells anymore
>>572208472Why is blud so angry
>>572208446The knight is actually the darkner of dess’ discarded foreskin
>>572208561Nothing wrong, just willfully not understanding the point
>>572208531i'm in a discord with a guy who just rants and rants for literal hours about how susie SHOULD feel about flowery and how we should be able to kill himhe's so mad he's planning out an entire rewrite of the chapter
>>572208479
>beat the Knight twice today>can't beat Sans even after an hour of attemptsI'm past my prime, I used to be able to no-hit some skelebro fangames
>>572207962Ironically despite acting otherwise, Flowery told us all he knew. He just likes acting mysterious and all-knowing, while his actual knowledge is limited.
>>572208380anon, you said what you said but you said garbage.be mysoginistic if that's what you do, but be a little more honest and don't invent layers that aren't there.a woman is a biological cage as much as a man is.it is not social construct nor way of presentation.gender is not real and your choices don't matter.no matter how much one hates himself for what he is, no matter how much make-up, no matter how much the knives cut, stab, remove and sew together again, you will be what you were and nature will have the last laugh.love yourself, man.
>>572208545In the endgame Roaring sequence where all of Hometown becomes a Dark World and it'll be a gag where Seth is completely underwhelmed by the actual Berdly
>>572208510i fucking lost
What went wrong?
Are they fucking DEAD
>>572208636>how we should be able to kill himI do think this chapter getting rid of the fight option for both bosses was kinda annoying.
>>572208553Retards are an incredibly lucrative demographic
>>572208383Spamton was lightning in a bottle. Were he just slightly more difficult I would say the game peaked in chapter 2. Hardest breadcrumbs of thematical parallels in all his dialogue, unique as hell, unsettling, one of my favorite defeated boss cutscenes of all time. I love all the secret bosses but comparing the others to Spamton is basically comparing any other phenomenal basketball player to 1997 Michael Jordan.
>>572208682Let Berdly have ONE fucking moment bro
>>572208642so you feel it too, huh...
>>572208692She spent a whole night in the Dark World (and maybe also whatever Kris did overnight)
>>572208704>The festival food was the start of the 'meat factory'
>>572207561Susie...
>>572208704dont eat anything powdered
>>572208652He didn't tell Susie that Kris is a FUCKING TRAITOR though he did tell her about the code so Kris couldn't hide it
>>572208692EVERYTHING
>>572208472the expression, outfit, visible earring are all (filename)
>POOPYRUS is the knight!>RUDINGUS is the knight!>CARRELEVANT is the knight!>DESSNEVER is the knight!>it’s…>it’s…>it’s ACTUALLY recycled garbage!
>>572208692fuck it i want berdly in as well, he was there too
>>572208692Toby's fetish is what went wrong.
>>572208606Brother I'm fucking 37. The first few times I did MewMew I couldn't even react to the pipe thing or whatever it is, I just died to the outside wall over and over. You WILL get it. It will take more time than the cracked out 20 year olds, but you can do it. You'll still hate the bomb section by the time you finish though.
There's no way that chapter 6 doesn't have a weird route, rightEven if you abort it, the cat's out of the bag, Noelle knows some shit is up, she's strong as fuck, and she knows she likes getting stronger
>>572208692Kris got KEKED
Is anyone here still around from /utg/ nine years ago? I used to post here when Undertale was first released but then fucked off right before deltarune dropped. I remember there was a Charafag who everyone called demented because they said white chocolate was their favorite type of chocolate.
Hey that sort of looks like ICE-E.And Noelle.
Ral
>>572208712this chapter was 100% a punishment for people who chose to fight and not recruit everybodyyou are locked out of content in castle town, you don't get any benefits, you're just fucked and it feels like Undertale all over again which I thought we were beyond>oh you didn't take either the Extreme Pacifist route or the Doe-Wife Route?>well then fuck you, you just miss out on content
>>572208704Why do people keep posting that screenshot from chapter 2 as if MK and Snowy weren't perfectly fine in chapter 4. Onion disappeared immediately after they said they would investigate the lake, it's different. Toby just forgot to put them in the festival. If they were supposed to be missing then Snowy's dad would be freaking out.
>>572208692Toxic first crush. Happens to most middle or high schoolers and turns them into an entirely different person until the libido cools off and they realize they've alienated their entire friend group.
>>572208758wait then when Sans offered Kris the "Papyrus Spaghetti Sandwich".... OH NO!
>>572208065Contact for Nintendo DSSecret of Evermore TerranigmaIllusion of GaiaThe World Ends with You
>>572208712the party members being able to make their own choices that go against the player is what makes the game feel real and alive
>>572208615Dess is one of those people who hate their birth parents for getting them circumcised and tries all sorts of home medicines and creams to try to regrow it
>>572208061>Who the hell is Kris Dreamer?Just vote Kris and Noelle for king and queen, see how Noelle reacts.
>>572198338>>572206767>Wait, Ding Gaster! Wing, Don't Gaster!This is comedy gold thank youDid the idea for this come entirely from the vessel joke?
>>572208810I don't know what you're talking about, but white chocolate is fucking nasty
>>572208792The knight is the cactus
>>572208795also depending on how you played the queen fight he has an injured hand/wing
>>572208808why would it have a weird route?we aborted it.its joever for weird route abortfags from there.nothing mattered, right?
Aborted weird route won't go anywhere because you need the Trash Crystal to make the Twisted Sword and you can't get Nubert if you freeze your recruits
>>572208810I drank some white chocolate milk recently and it was like swigging pure fucking sugar. Awful, and fitting for a chara enjoyer
>>572208806I'm 38I can't still do itOur mileage has varied I can barely reliably beat Gerson and story-mode Flowery was/is tough for me nowI'm fucked if Toby ramps up the difficulty level
With only one chapter releasing this time the new WAIT is going to be excruciating, I really hope it only takes a year again at least for Ch 6.
>>572208810I don't remember that but I do remember when the spiderfags got genocided because one guy named muffet got screenshotted roleplaying in some asriel discord
>>572208845That only excuses one of them, the other is that pink is just an unkillable god and should have been the one protecting asgore instead of Flowery.
>>572208824>Don't recruit guys to your Castle Town>Your Castle Town is now worse off for itSeems like straightforward cause and effect to me
>>572206804No, Undyne was the biggest troublemaker in town
>>572208810White chocolate isn't even chocolate as far as I'm concerned, it's a milk candy
>>572208579Splendid
>>572208810i don’t remember that guy. but ive been here since 2016
>>572208874I am not tainting my save file with Kriselle slop
>>572208773He did tell Ralsei, tho
>>572208914Yeah if you knock him during one of the two encounters his arm is fucked.
Nothing's stronger than a flower's dreemurr
>>572208982killing pink is like killing sweet capn cakes, it just wouldn't sit right with me (or susie)susie probably would have healed her too
>>572208810well that is pretty demented because white chocolate isn't even real chocolate
>>572208808Chapter 6 aborted weird route will feature Noelle having an abortion because of themes and such
>>572208965Dude it took me literal hours to beat Gerson. I haven't tried again but if you can beat him reliably you are way ahead of me on a baseline.I remember prior to chapter 5 I was genuinely worried that I would be locked out of the secret route by my lack of skill, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm used to this process from playing fighting and driving games, but my advice to you is to either- do several attempts, with 5-10 minute breaks of reading /utg/ in between- do several attempts before bed and do it tomorrowRepeat this process enough times and I absolutely guarantee you will get there, 100%.
>>572208995nta but a lot of the other chapters had content for doing that, king and queen's dialog about what you did for example, the fact that you are getting ran out of the castle in chapter 1. Shit like that.
>>572209046I guarantee Ralsei's known that from day 1
>is like killing sweet capn cakesWhere do I sign up?
>>572208891>>572208962>>572208981There was also a guy who had to go to the hospital and get his stomach pumped because he ate his dog’s shit pretending it was Doggo’s.
I want to have sex with Flowery
>>572208995That's not what I mean. I expected the game to have SOMETHING for people who prioritized getting higher stats and playing it more like a traditional RPG.In my 1st playthroughs I always just recruit the ones I think are cool and defeat the rest to get STRONGERThere's no reward for doing that though, so you should either play the game passively and recruit everyone, or take the weird route for alternate story contentdon't you see how that kind of sucks? If you just want to actually FIGHT you don't get anything out of it.
Murdering Berdly should be a requirement for the good ending
>>572208792>Bringing up Kris thinking of Jockington to hide the Knight's identity>Omitting the part where Temmie pops up like an intrusive thought and Kris panics to end the vision
>killing sweet capn cakesYes please
>>572209163Take it easy Queen
Queen is still sexy but in a you can't take her out in public way. It's like fucking your friend's aunt.
Does anything even exist outside of Hometown? Asriel is in "college" but I'm under the impression that there's no such thing. His character was written out of the game for some reason, I don't think he exists anywhere at the moment. He's effectively vanished alongside Dess
>>572209163Ralsei...
>>572209158now THAT I do remember lmfao.
"Thanks for walking me home, Kris."Your reaction?
>>572209132No no, Gerson just clicked with meI can also pacify Jevil, pretty reliablybut it's the high-paced really tight reaction battles that are spacing me out of the game. I just can't keep up with some of it, on a hand-eye coordination basis. I know the attack patterns I just can't input fast enough.
>>572208981What's wrong with that
Kris hates (Me)Ralsei dislikes (Me)Susie only cares about Noelle nowWho will be my party members when I get my real vessel back? This sucks
>>572209248Lake SKIIIIIP.
>>572209248not susie.don't care.
>>572208995It's literally been a decade plus of Toby Fox game mechanics, you'd think they would figure it out already.
>>572209248It made me very sad, seeing Susie peeking out of school closet was heart breaking
>>572209238The internet used to work, so presumably. Noelle's entire interest pool is based off of it after all.
>>572209228I MMEANT TO REPLY TO >>572209176SORRY
>>572208856I'm sorry in advance, but I had to
>>572209285Gaster and his cartel
>>572209163harley quinn...
So now that you beat the Secret boss from chapter 5...What do you think of Sweetheart and her boss theme?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeljgyLR2D0
I think a few of Mew Mew's dating options (specifically the ones the body wants in the heart bubbles) are actually Dess memories
>>572203858>Remember that one comic where Sans accuses Flowey of resetting the universe 596 sextrillion times? It was me, Kris, I deliberately interpereted every vague facet of Undertale and stretched them out to unrealistic proportions to justify torturing a disfigured and traumatised child!
>>572209163Smoobopanon…
>>572209262Unfocus your eyes/stop hyperfocusing on the soul and rely on your hands to dodge. For the plates/heads and the bomb dodges I didn't even know what my fingers were doing 75% of the time.
>>572208894>tsundere cactus is in love with kris, she's heartbroken if kris flirts with another darkner>"Can i... dream like this?">shadow crystals are fragments of broken dreams>tsundere cactus gets one up over flowery the last minute because she knows firsthand that a plantner's dream CAN be broken
>>572209313Dead internet theory. All the computers just have an LLM running the show in the background so everyone has the illusion of a worldwide web.
>>572209316Faggot on /utg/ acting like we’re going to shame and rape you for making mistakes
>>572209284He was writing "*pees on u =3C*" in the screenshot so any/all muffet-related posts would get replied to with *pees on u =3C* to mock him until they got fed up and ran off. I think they even started editing it into art with her
>>572209172Not to get all "do you even Undertale bro" but the reward for prioritizing your stats over the people you're hurting is that the game is easier. That's all you get because it's all you wanted.The game isn't even hard if you choose to spare everyone. Now if we were still stuck with chapter 1 HP, then yeah, I'd probably start capping motherfuckers too.
>>572203925Reminder that once you buy three weapons Flowery gives Ralsei a scarf. Ralsei refuses to wear it during this chapter, but if he gets over that in future chapters that will decide whether you get the shoes or not.
>>572209285Noelle. Duh. Fag.There's only one ending, snowGREAT route is just the fast way
>>572209420I can't, I'm basically blind in my right eye and I wear glasses
>>572209306>It's literally been a decade plus of Toby Fox game mechanics>Where the game reacts to and has content for both sides of the coinYou're THIS close to understanding.
>>572209238No, the light world and the dark world are diegetically gaster simulations, none of these characters aside from (you) and gaster are real (obviously they're video game characters and not real and I mean you're not meant to pretend they're real either).
>>572209504But I don't want Noelle, she probably has ticks
Mewmew mating-press
>>572209285Good news, the vessel doesn't have HP or TP!
Pet her
>>572209481I know, I realized that when the stat gains didn't transfer from chapter to chapterBut I was hoping for some payoff for playing the neutral routeNaive of me
>>572209520thing vs no thing is included in that dynamic but generally he doesn't reward you for half assing it and being wishywashy
Gaster is actually a real dude and it's rude to talk about him because you might hurt his feelings
>>572209559How is that good news
>>572208894I think the cactus will save our ass during the roaring
>>572209567
>>572209613I don't want a cactus anywhere near my ass tbdesu
Why does Ralsei fuel her delusions?
>>572209559WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?
>>572209238It would totally invalidate Susie's entire character and development so probably not
>>572209612HP cannot reach 0 (no life).No TP requirements (no will).
>>572209505lol me too, I have multiple astigmatisms. I go outside without my glasses because I hate wearing them and have to hope I never see anyone that knows me because I can't see anyone's facial features and wouldn't recognize them.Anyway, just do it. It's not like there's an invisible observer making fun of you for failing, and every failure builds the road to success. Worst case scenario you brainwash yourself into enjoying the cute catgirl's theme.
I'm kinda mad that you don't get to keep the 1HP you get from Gerson. It was funny and it's not like it affects the game balance.
>>572209037So, you didn't really play the game, huh? Missing out on the truth of the story just to validate the path you chose.
What was the reaction to suselle canon? I wasn’t around
>>572209649what if she was a hot anime plant woman that has an edgy knight alter ego
>>572209672She's mandated by the prophecy to turn schizo
>>572209672a dream, dark, darker yet darker.
>>572209672The end is nigh, all he thinks he can do is pray, and if he's paying to us he is FUCKED cause we don't know shit either.
>>572209672He knows there's nothing they can do to save her. Might as well let her have her fun for a bit.
>>572209729Krusie cope and seethe, mostly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z01Tsgwe2dQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31PVkwzpEYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Us0DZgexwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdLO8u-0L8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFnfEWZCtQWe're 5/7 of the way there, rank the themesFor me it's Gerson > Jevil > Mewmew > Knight > Spamtonas much as i love spamton, and [NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A], i'm just not a huge fan of BIG SHOT
>>572209729Do you really need to ask
>>572209672She needs to be in the dark world when the roaring happens
currently watching the device theory 6 hour long video, i like the idea that during the last chapter we'll actually make a dark world inside a dark world, then make a dark world inside a dark world inside a dark worldand see how far... we can go...
>>572209756>we don't know shit either.NotYet
>>572209715I played both the normal route and the weird route. I just don't pick Kriselle slop choices.
>>572209784big shot > hammer > the world revolving > knife >>>>>>>>>> mew mew
>>572209729Mass ritual suicide. It was a whole thing
>>572209784Getson > Knight > Spamton > Jevil > Mewmew
>>572209729/sus/ and /doe/ both imploded that night
>>572209729this ship uses pain to fuel its journey, BAY-BEE.we're going straight to murdertown.
>>572209729basically this from me.
>>572209784The World Revolving > [POWER GAP] > the rest of the game
>>572209784Mewmew = Knight > Spamton > Gerson > JevilYes im a vocaloidfag
Notice how most of the game’s conflict revolves around women
>>572209729Pic rel, including Suselle shippers who vanished overnight.
>>572209906only actual answer
>>572209163Asgore...
>>572209729Kris erases his own answer if you vote for Suselle at festival contest vote and she thanks Kris by giving him imaginary points.
>>572209784Flower Man > BIG SHOT > Gerson > others
>>57220972980% of the fandom doesn't likes Suselle and thinks is forced as fuck, so what do you think
>>572209784Mew Mew > Jevil = Spamton = Knight > GersonAll of them are the best songs in their respective chapters
>>572209672Ralsei just got through some personal stuff and is thinking more about the big picture at the moment. Plus, you know, the whole "becoming real" thing colors his perception of this a certain way as well. I expect him to be the first one to get worried eventually though.
>>572209784Big Shot > Black Knife > Hammer of Justice > World Revolving = Mew Mew
>>572209930all greek tragedies are because of women, anon.matters of heart and soul, of life and death.>so that hubris shall not overtake>and the just not grow disconsolate.BUT BOY, AM I THAT.
There's a spiteful part of me that wants Toby to turn around at the final hour and show us that the weird route is the canon one, cause there's a subset of people who are so unfathomably annoying about how anyone who enjoys the route should feel bad and are bad people and blah blah blah. I wanna see them have to suck it up and play through it or forever be told they didn't actually play the game.
>>572209729I'm not even a shipper or anything and I still disliked it.
>>572209092Man FUCK Sweet Cap'n CakesThey're like some mediocre minor characters who show up in 1-2 episodes of a 2000s cartoon. There are a couple of decent jokes with them but the majority of their dialogue reads like it was written by a boardroom of geriatrics trying to make a "hip" made-for-TV kids movie. They do almost nothing in the plot except help make the Thrash Machine mecha, don't even have a good boss fight since the entire thing is scripted, and have less character depth than Chapter 1 Rouxls.
I wanted to see Ralsei get entirely fed up with the shenanigans of darkners...I want the fluffy boy to go postal...
>>572210043I don't know why you thought it would surprise anyone that a weird route enjoyer is edgy enough to think this.
Spawn is a better final boss theme than Guardian and I'm still mad about it a year later
I still think Chapter 4 had the best soundtrack, thought I'm biased cause I fucking love the church/cathedral music theme and have listened to shit like that for decades now.
>>572209987But of courseRules are just a suggestion!
>>572210050I'm still bummed out they didn't combine into a CD changer.
So where's the amphitheater?
>>572210043From the Sans picture, the only future we've seen is from the Weird route.
>>572210082nta but go hug your depression away, anon.maybe you'll find someone that gives a shit.
>>572210123and don't forget YOUR
>>572207962...maus?
>>572209729It was so ill-received that even people that liked the ship are upset.
Post armpit heaters
>>572205453I hate Suselle but this pretty believable.
>>572209567Why am I having such lewd thoughts over a fucking CAT
>>572209817My theory is that the prophecy dream involved the characters figuring out that since you use the soul to close the dark fountain, and you use it to vanquish the titan, then the two of them must be the same. Dark, and Darker still.It then tracks that just like you can create darkness twice over, you can create light twice over.Thus, using the soul to close a Light world will ascend it to a level of light one greater. Leaving them aware of our real world. The characters look us right in the face, and in an attempt to save themselves from us, they use the soul again once more, and Toby wakes up. (the game closes)
>>572210082Thanks for proving my point. :)
I haven’t played any of Deltarune I only played Undertale that’s why I asked about the suselle reaction. Do they treat Kris like shit too or something?
>Sans gives Kris the bread item required to glitch out of bounds Yeah, I'm thinking Weird Route is actually the good route and we just don't have enough context yet to piece it together. Normal route leads to the prophecy being fulfilled and a great tragedy occurring. Sans knows how to help and is helping SOUL by giving a gamebreaking glitch item to wrongwarp out of bounds. The only way to avoid the prophecy is to not play by the rules of the game.
>>572210164The hand bit from Mike (control the maus with your mouse!)
>>572210162YOUR LONG showing up out of nowhere in one of the early platforming segments fucking sent me ngl.
>>572209784Black Knife > Big Shot > Cutie Mew Mew Magic > The World Revolving > Hammer of JusticeIt's a little misleading though, I like them all quite a bit, even Hammer of Justice despite sitting in last place.
>>572209729It's pretty ass but for the first couple of days you had selfinserting /v/tards in here crying about being cucked
>>572203482>>572202762Gaster was a dragon skeleton and was a third wheel that broke up dessriel
>>572209729I'm surprised that nobody cares that Dessriel is also canon.
>>572210123I miss From Now On. Hopefully with the same getting more serious, we can get away from Rude Buster unless they make it sound more menacing.
>>572205453I went to a Catholic all girls school where a bunch of them were prison gay style straight-bisexual girls that went for manly butch dykes as pseudo boyfriends so I believe it even if I don’t like suselle
>>572210250Deltarune has been a non-stop Kris torture simulator since the ending of Chapter 4 had him kept up all night by his mother banging the local drifter.
>the knight can ignore fake statisticsobviously the knight is a guy with night vision goggles
>>572210194She is more human girl than cat, liking her doesnt make you a furry.
>>572210167>even people that liked the ship are upset.That's how you know most of the Noelle Susie shippers are a bunch of newfags and secondaries. Everyone who knows Toby's writing knew it would be the most hamfisted, weird and annoying shit ever.
>>572210132fuck dude I forgot those existedused to have one when i was a kid
>>572210340>prison gay style straight-bisexual girlswhat the fuck is this conjugated mess of words
>>572210250Oh no the overall thread community has been seething about suselle since 2018 and trying to convince themselves it wasn't going to play out so of course it stands to reason there'll be mass suicides once it actually happened
>>572210361I been liiiiiiiiiicking it
>>572208414I don't get the investment people have in these two being different totally irreconcilable states of beingThe disagreement here is exclusively about how Ralsei is referred to, right, about the category he's sorted into, not about any aspect of his style and behaviorDid you guys know that categories are invented and downstream of the things they describe
>>572207346I giggled.
>>572209784Spamton > knight > jevil >>>>>>> powergap >>>>>>> gerson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POWERGAP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mewmew
>>572210361Can't ignore fake real statistics though, that's like one of the SOUL's greatest abilities
>>572210271Inb4 Berdly turns out to betray the group at some point in the normal route and the reason we froze him was cause we knew.
>>572210250It's more like they just drag him along, and don't pay him any mind.Granted, it's not like he's very open about his feelings of dissatisfaction, but even then, no one likes being the third wheel.The much worse part is at the end where Susie directly acknowledges that their adventures are something special that the two of them and no one else share, but then just asserts "We're bringing Noelle into this too". Not asking Kris if that's okay, not even giving him a chance to react or respond. Just "thanks for walking me home, Kris" and we're done.Also, the hell are you doing. Go play Deltarune right the fuck now. It's on sale 20% off on steam right now, and the first two chapters are free.
>>572210196so theres a fontain to close in the sjelter? mmmhh yeah no fontain allowed in my town i'm closing that
>>572210361and i been liiiicking it
>>572209238I find it interesting how much College gets brought up by various characters in chapter 5 when previously it was only ever mentioned in relation to Asriel
>>572210250Kris ends up third wheeling and Susie's going a little nuts over dating Noelle for both teenager's first GF reasons and prophecy mindbreak reasons but if you do all the Festival events you can tell Susie and Noelle still care a lot about themPlus Kris is a little traitor rat who's suppressing all their feelings for Susie so it's hard to be fully sympathetic
>>572210141Look around you
Not liking mewmew's song doesnt make you cool btwVocaloid is based, cry about it chuds
>>572210385>Chapter 2 releases>wow that sucked, sure hope they don't do that again>Chapter 3+4 releases>wow that sucked, sure hope they don't do that again>Chapter 5 releases>
>>572210271Sans also has a history of being depressed and resorting to the most painful measures to get things done. His judgement is not necessarily the best.
Kris should start their own party with Mew Mew and Berdly.
made a design of the knights light world form based on the theory of them being a post weird route Kris & Noelle fusion
>>572210497>Continuing to play a game that literally started doing Suselle in chapter 2holy retard
>>572210196>The characters look us right in the face, and in an attempt to save themselves from us, they use the soul again once more, and Toby wakes up. (the game closes)Y'know I'm pretty sure this is just Elder Scrolls
Thank you for watching my dream.
>>572210043>Waaah why don't people want to play the route that cuts out a significant chunk of the game's content!!! Toby should take their toys away to punish them!!!Kill yourself
>>572210497>Chapter 2I think I liked Ch1 more, and I definitely liked Undertale more>Chapter 3+43 was a bit underwhelming, but 4 was so insanely peak that I'm going to spend the next entire year with this game on my mind sitting with bated breath at what's next>Chapter 5. . . I take it back. unrelease this and cluster it with 6, please.
>>572202474Spamton's communion responseMalius's BREAD MASTER thing having a double meaning because he mentions NEW FUSIONS and a "FORBIDDEN" technique are all foreshadowing that fusions are important and Kris/Noelle are doing it on the WRPersonally I think its more likely this is the Angel while Dess and either Asriel or a Previous Kris became the knight (and we're the vessel)
Deltarune will operate on Star Trek rules and only the even numbered chapters will be universally considered good.
>>572210326It was basically assumed to be the case early on in the game. It would have been weirder if it wasn't the case.
>>572210578I think this would piss off Noelle
man if this happened to me I would've just given up on the spot and joined the army. strap me to a missile and fire me at tel aviv. I don't care anymore.
>>572210478
>>572210385>trying to convince themselves it wasn't going to play out so ofNah, most knew it would and were hoping Toby would not be so painfully predictable as to introduce yet another poorly disguised fetish pairing of >Big mean girl x small docile girlfaggotry into the game cause this time it's in our fucking party instead of a few NPCs.
>>572210569One mid ship is not enough to ruin a game for me when the rest of it is as good as Deltarune isYou people would never have survived Homestuck
>>572202582Kris was there and it's related to why they're fading and exhausted
>>5722106043 was "eh" until the ending, the Roaring Knight elevates the whole chapter. Besides that, I agree with you on everything.
>>572210560Very coolAnchoring so people can find it>>572202296
Im glad chapter 6 is bound to have friction, because if noelle join, we can't have a 4-member-party.SOMEONE has to stay on the side.SOMEONE has to step down.
>>572210250Go play Deltarune, you owe it to yourself.
>>572210497Also, seeing posters delude themselves into thinking that it didn't mean anything was just sad. Like watching an ancient Chinese emperor drink mercury, insisting that it won't kill him
>>572210634It's crazy how it took one chapter for sentiment to completely flip on Kris being a traitor to be stamped out to "yeah lil buddy just start the roaring already."
>>572210634>Dont voice your opinion>Someone who does takes your girl0 sympathy for Kris
>>572210583How would confirming the weird route is the canon one being taking away toys fag? You can still play just the normal route.
>>572209784Cutie Mew Mew = Hammer of Justice = Big Shot > Knife > World RevolvingThey're all very different in their execution so it's kind of hard to rank them, besides WR which is a strict last. It really depends on what I'm in the mood for
>>572210634>fire me at tel avivbased and same.
All according to all according to plant.
>>572205642Girls live life on easy mode and Catti is proof of that. A girl can literally be a fat incel who's rude, possessive and tries to be controlling and still have half the fandom siding with her. Catti does not have any noble traits hidden under the hood, she's just mean and selfish and that's her entire personality.
>>572209163SHOW ME YOUR MOVES
>>572210734The problem is....which girl does he truly want?
>>572210478The song is good until the vocals kick in and make it unbearable dogshit to listen to. “Chuds” love anime music
>>572210271what the fuck, it's literally just a Mother glitch? Tobbias...
>>572210560Damn, that's fucking horrifyingly goodDon't forget to anchor it, so it gets more attention in these fast moving threads
>>572210723That's how you know Kris is male coded, he instantly garnered the sad third wheel men sympathy that just tell him to send it.
I want to like this chapter but I kinda don't care about the flowers except flowery which I hate (in a good way). I also didn't like that you can't beat him up after he went like "why would your fountain be more important?". Nigga I have been recruiting darkners for 4 chapter and they're all there while your fountain has been existed for maybe a couple hours and asgore doesn't even care about you.
>>572210805umm aqualads? I thought you guys told me only trannies don't like your pedo fanart?
>>572210804Catti knows that Susie is the Dragon that's gonna kill Noelle according to the prophecy.
>>572210805>rolling the mental illness gacha>getting the SSSR drop
>>572210850That's not a man only thing, basically anyone can relate to it.
>>572210851>I FUCKING HATE CATTIWhy did he yell that?
I kinda get kressel now especially due to a soft suselle happening in normal route. I'd imagine kris would be down for getting dicked by vessel as a nice rebound
>>572210560Really cool. Anchoring it for you.>>572202296
>>572210804>"yeah this is just my closest friend who invites me over for literal petting sessions, dresses me up in hot oufits and takes pictures, loans me whatever I want and is the only person I confide my-">"oh my god how was I supposed to know she was into me"
>>572210851Why didn't he yell after Pink battle?
>>572210681inb4 toby power of friendships away any strife between his chosen pair and lays it all on Kris again
>>572210723Fanartists were always on the poor little baby Kris train though. The Kris haters still hate Kris.
>>572209784Big Shot > Mew Mew > World Revolving > Black Knife > Hammer of JusticeAll of them are good but Big Shot is one of the sickest songs Toby has ever made and five years later people still argue over what the trucks are Hammer of Justice is an UT retread albeit a good one
>>572210954Too afraid that it'll come out as a moan.
Is Susie an orphan? Her empty room. The fact that nobody looks after her when she isn't home.What is going on?
>>572210954Because it has 0 impact to the story or characters, just a hamfisted in “secret” boss fight
>Suselle is 100% gonna be a plot device>Kris' envy is 100% gonna be a plot device>it's all setting up for an interesting conflict>all that people are talking about is getting cuckedI mean, I'm a kind of a shipfag myself, but I don't understand some of you people sometimes.
What is your weird route content ranking?For me is 5>2>45 is really great, i always disliked that people weren't going to debate how much of noelle actions were of her own volition2 the forbidden path starts with ice magic , with much morecontent4, didn't like it too much even i rose/shattering symbolism was very well made
>>572210805How annoying do shippers have to be if no one wants to interact with those on a professional level?
>>572210635There was nothing vague about that post
>>572210560https://x.com/Cyberlord1109/status/2071018328575893967yes yeah okay man is this actually you yadda yadda
>>572210904She's reverting.
>>572210954the SOUL is actively trying to reconcile them
>>572210978I can hate Kris for being a fag and not letting me improve his life, while also feeling bad for him seeing the consequences of him not letting me do so. I hate because I care.
>Kris is rumbled>Susie, maybe with others, really laying into them>"All we've been through, you're behind it? Why?!">"Your own dad, why would you let him be kidnapped?">"Was it all a lie?">"Just...why???">Two options to respond: "..." and "...">Select one>YourChoicesDon'tMatter.jpg>Kris shouts back "BECAUSE [Reason for their motivations likely involving Dess]!"Would this be Kino?
>>572211005>doesn't call her parents before the sleepover>only mentions that "your parents have it rough too?"they are there, but things are probably very complicated.
>>572210954stunlocked by the forehead smooch
>>572211024>>all that people are talking about is getting cuckedmaybe it had something to do with the 30 different scenes of Kris yearning and suffering
>>572210946Doesnt mean you have free access to her, Fatti incel
>>572210804Brushing off someone crying in front of you and hoping Noelle enjoyed pissing Catti off throws Catti into sympathetic territory for me.
Recovered from a cloned old whiteboard
>>572210271>>572210835it's a double glitch reference, also the undertale punch card glitch
>>572210954Guess
>>572210141it was a fake screenshot
>>572211064Had a hunch it was a repost, can't believe they're still at it. For what gain?
>>572210868>I also didn't like that you can't beat him up after he went like "why would your fountain be more important?"This is the biggest thing, we were just fucking moments before that talking about bringing them to castle town if we could were it not for them being delicate flowers, what a fuckhead.
>>572210751What does "showing us that the weird route is the canon one" even mean aside from shitting up the normal route so your precious sequence break garbage gets to be special? You're clearly asking for the normal route to have a non-ending or some stupid shit like that. Why don't YOU just play your dogshit route instead of wishing that the other route somehow becomes even shittier than your route to validate your choice?
>>572210946>who invites me over for literal petting sessionsNoelle invited Catti over to play videogames. We know Catti knows "cat petters" is a videogame franchise because there's a cat petters rpg cartridge under Asriel's bed that literally has her name on it. Catti was playing dumb so Noelle would pet her and even then she only did it because Catti wouldn't leave otherwise.
>>572211116Well duh, they're feeling envy. I find it kind of stupid that people's minds immediately go to NTR at the sight of a human emotion. Guess that's just a symptom of an era or some shit.
>>572202582>Library computer lab got looted recently>Police chief disappeared two days ago>Church suddenly looks like a fucking bomb went off inside>Some bullshit happened last night that required a police response (from the ONE (1) remaining police officer) on the other side of town>Everyone's still full speed ahead on the festival
>>572211024is there any proof that kris is canonically envious of suselle?or is it just conjecture/hope?and what is kris supposed to do about it?toby's lesbians are holy to him.nothing will matter from here on out.
>>572210954>all mew mew porn spammer replies and one real response
>>572211005She was sent to live in the apartment with Aunt Alphys and has a laughably small stipend to live off of and every time Alphys offers to help, she tells her she doesn't need it because she knows she's on a teacher's salary.
>>572210681the mage leaves the party
>>572210976I would love a lonely chapter like that, our resentment growing...
>>572211176Bibliox thing with AMPHITHEATER was real, tho
>>572210954>Mew Mew begrudgingly finds harmony between her body and soul, amicably ends the battle with a promise to visit Castle Town, and even gives Kris a smooch>Spamton's last string gets cut and it stops the entire battle for several seconds of silence, probably one of the most uncomfortable scenes in the game, and instead of achieving any kind of "freedom" he basically just fucking diesI wonder>>572211231It's a turdworld thing unironically
>>572211135Me on the right
>>572210896Women can instantly go pick up some guy they don't really care about to cope, cause they can cause they're women. It in it's purest form is a male only experience I regret to inform you femanon.
>>572211198art is cool
>>572211252>>572211005alphys may have adopted her because her dad was gaster and he was wiped out of existence. Chapter 6 will reveal this
>>572211240Hot Springs scene with Susie comes to mind
>>5722110391>5>7b>5>7c>4
>>572210804If Susie and Noelle made Berdly cry I'd think they were assholes too
>>572211258>chapter 6 egg room>no egg behind the tree>instead its ralsei who hanged himself
>>572211246>one real responseOne retarded speedreader reply, you mean?
>>572211135SEX SEX SEX SEX
>>572211067She's getting comfortable, she forgot what happened last time she did that.
>>572211024Toby "King Of Eroge" Fox knows exactly what he's doing.
>>572211317i only remember:>things will work out between you and noelle>you can carry me nextand kris just mumbles the first and susie angrily tells you "THATS NOT THE POINT, DUMBASS" and i only remember that, because i didn't want to say that suselle will work.man... can't say that.
>>572211346It wasn't that far off when they rejected him from joining them. I'm pretty sure Suselle is here to stay sadly, but I think Toby is making it intentional in having Susie and Noelle be little shits.
>>572210954Kris threw up in their mouth when they thought about the possibility of hooking up with the SOUL so they couldn't yell
>>572210895Good one Krautdelic
>Ignored the no handholding rule>Called Catti a furball>Called Catti a freakshow Susie's reprehensible, but her main character status and Toby bias means she's above reproach and that is frustrating.
>>572211098it sounds like kino but kris is a mute faggot and i doubt toby will make them speak anytime soon
>>572211264You know as well as I do that it would be forcing us to watch from their perspective like Noelle's house all over again and getting none of Kris's, cause toby wants the pair to be front and center.
>>572211460From Susie's perspective, Catti is just acting like a dick to her for no reason. Noelle probably should have done something about it, so it's more of her fault.
>>572211460She also scared that little rabbit kid for no reason.
>>572211460>Ignored the no handholding rule>Jaywalked>Took more than one candy from free samplesA devil, I say! Pure devil!
>>572211240>is there any proof that kris is canonically envious of suselle?There's that one moment when Kris mumbles their words if you choose "I hope thinks work out with Noelle" to Susie, don't remember when though. Also supposedly if you choose Susie and Noelle for the ferris wheel, Kris doesn't wanna think about the two of them and instead thinks about Sans of all people.
>>572211116Also just the random Rouxls scene for the minigame and the Tori sans shit the last chapter leading into Asgore yearning all of this one, toby has some sorta NTR fetish and this chapter showcased it.
Do you think Toby will make a good ending?I think there are chances that toby will do a mean spirited ending where the relationship of the characters fail.No suselle, no kriselle, no krusie and no friendship but the worlds are saved. Congrats.
>>572211512Susie thinks Catti hates her for being mean to Jockington which is a more valid reason to hate Susie than the actual reason Catti hates her.
>>572211420He has dialog for telling her not to get in the way of him and Noelle that he instantly tosses himself into the water to keep from saying if you pick it.
>>572211470Kris isn't mute, they tell Susie stuff all the time, like Asgore's back door, they're just quiet about it. I figured with such a central question to Deltarune that would be the time to break the rule and have Kris speak for themself. Besides with Asgore gone who else will be in a position to recount that day?
more recovered old whiteboard stuff I have not anchored it because its not mine and I don't know if its been posted here before
>>572211460Maybe Catti shouldnt hsve been a fat femcel?
>>572210271Well yeah, he's literally "Mister Gaster Blaster" if anyone is in on it it'd be him
>>572211650>kris wants to be with noelle/susie>doesn't want the PLAYER to be with noelle/susie
>>572211536rabbit kid is racist>>572211562Both of those is just Kris a being a jerkass to SOUL."Oh you want to PEEP on a couple? What a CREEP! Have sans' ass instead""Oh you want to say something? I'm mad at you, so I'm not gonna let you speak"Shoulda thought before stealing the soul from the vessel.
>>572211692Nice seth
>>572211631I think in the best-case scenario there will be no active ships, just an open possibility for some, but the friendship will remain. However, at least one of the characters will make some kind of sacrifice that may not kill them but will put distance between them and the rest. Maybe one of the Lightners will become a Darkner even.
The detective minigame/battle was the best idea presented in chapter 5 and it was only repeated once, it didn't overstay its welcome. It's also perfectly balanced, if you paid attention to the dialogue you could probably beat it first try. Yet nobody here is talking about it
>>572210681I can see you being forced to choose between Kris/Susie/Noelle and Kris/Ralsei as your two possible parties if Noelle actually joins the team. I don't think Susie and Noelle would be willing to separate from each other.
>>572211228Case in point, people like you who are so opposed to the very idea that the darker toned path might be the larger part of Toby's vision are part of why I'd love it to be the case. You all seethe about fucking everything and act holier than thou constantly, you're insufferable.
>>572211394SOUL CRUSHING HURT>baumkuchen is not even entirely german.>when napoleonic french armies moved over germany, they went all the way to russia. and from russia to germany, they brought the tradition of hardening dough on a spit, layer by layer until a large trunk of a tree-looking cake is formed. the constant rotation of the spit makes the drippings dough harden on the cake, shaping branches/leaves.baumkuchen is traditionally serves around the holidays, because it resembles a fir tree which has been a germanic symbol of perseverance in the coldest, darkest months - i mean the whole decorating a tree thing is german by itself and it only became world popular when a german woman sat on the english throne and thought to decorate with something that felt like home and the papparazzi got a photo of it and the commoners wanted to immitate the queen.
>>572211779>imagekek
>>572211756>Oh you want to say something? I'm mad at you, so I'm not gonna let you speakThat's an autistically generic interpretation and there's no way I can sugarcoat it.
It would be weird if Maddie and Kris actually became a thing because of Maddie's crush on Asgore. Or maybe a good thing for her depending on how you look at it.
Kris is still a bitch and I haven't forgiven them for throwing shit at me and trying to hit me in that closetI will continue to pick the suselle dialogue options and make them run into bullets until they behave
>>572211779I think I remember an anon talking about how they were sure an Ace Attorney style minigame would be implemented in a future chapter and I thought that was bullshit. Boy, was I wrong.
>>572211238There's a reason Noelle seethes at the NPCs for being NPC like.
the end game will be Susie confronting Kris about the SOUL and stealing it from them to be able to close fountains despite her not knowing removing it would kill Kris. Soulless Kris will then start the Roaring and W.D. Gaster will personally beat Suselle to death
Catty gets to hook up with Pizzapants but Catti gets punished for having a crush on Noelle because fat chicks should only date extremely desperate men and if they aim for someone out of their league they should be completely emotionally destroyed
>>572211916the normalnpc will sell dino nuggies...
>>572211631>Normal Route: The prophecy comes to pass, the fellowship is broken and the dream ends.>Weird Route: You avert the prophecy and escape the bounds of the story at terrible cost.>Twisted Route: You read between the lines and free Kris from his promise, allowing you to save everyone but the one person he began this journey for in the first place.
>>572211747Then the little faggot better get used to yearnmaxxing, cause we're stuck with one other till this ends.
>>572211779I wish it was a bit longer, most of the minigame is just picking Aqua and guessing the right item
>>572211779It was fun, I like how it made a comeback in the boss battle and fucking moss of all things was the evidence
>>572211631He literally said the ending is his fever dream. Expect Gainax Ending in the spirit of Evangelion.
>>572211631Everything turns to warped garbage if you don't fuck with time and break everythingYou will fight the Suicide King
>>572211874Why angry ghost have fanon Mettaton colors?
chapters 5-8 should've been released at the same time
>>572211779No reason to, it's like you said. It came, it went, it was not over bearing and it was handled just fine. There's nothing to say other than>Yeah it was really cooland I'm glad there was an in-fight way to get what you missed, would have been annoying getting like 4 deep only to find out you're getting killed to reload and wander for them.
>>572212232>not including chapter 0cringe
>>5722122620 should be a gamestop pre-order exclusive.
>>572211238>EveryoneAsgore is aware of the computer lab thing. And if he is, then Carol is also aware.
utdr-onlies aren't ready for the intermissions20 years of deltarune
>>572212000>just picking Aquawait you could cheese the trial by just spamming aqua? mine was seth for the floradinn, green for the shirt, and aqua for green's handkerchief.
>>572212232i don't think toby should've even released 3+4 as early access. he should've just gone awol while working on the rest of the game and should've released it at the 11 year mark.
>>572212321Noelle better jump out of the screen and suck my dick in the ending if Toby wants me to wait 20 years for his bullshit story
>>572211779>if you paid attention to the dialogue you could probably beat it first tryHow?
New thread?
>>572212375okay but... what if SHE does that
>>572212329For some reason I remember Aqua being the culprit of more than one crime
>>572212390the characters have certain tells. like seth getting nervous, and blue not answering. but green and aqua was difficult to spot.
>>572212469it's over bro
>>572209840You're missing out then. Every interaction is worth a shot. No ship shall be left aside.
>>572212505Aqua mentions blood
>>572212521Fuck....
>>572212605>>572212605>>572212605Hop on
>>572211889I was wrong about what it was used for but I was right that the minigame would exist and involve gathering evidence in the overworld so it balances out
>>572210478Vocaloid is cringe and I hate that it's so synonymous with vocal synth that it's achieved Band-Aid or Kleenex status.And Miku is the most overrated one of all. She's long since been surpassed by even parodies of herself like Kumi and Teto.Miku's not terrible, but she doesn't deserve the ungodly glaze she gets by people who can't even name 2 vocal synth characters.
>>572212469No need, we've talked about everything we couldPull the plug until the next newsletter drops
>Also, the hell are you doing. Go play Deltarune right the fuck now. It's on sale 20% off on steam right now, and the first two chapters are free.No a deltarune fan acted like a pretentious asshole to me once so I told him I would never play the game and I’m holding to it. I’m sure it’s great and Undertale will always have a special place in my heart but I’m a man of my word.
>>572212000i somehow didn't find enough evidence and had to deliberately kill myself to find it and restart the fight, that seemed like weird design but it was a cool concept
https://deltarune.wiki/w/SethHoly shit, those wiki-tards are illiterate. They say that Seth is "non-binary", when that's clearly not the case. Someone fix that article and explain to them what "Q" stands for in "LGBTQ".
>>572212750If you use ACT on Blue he'll give you more evidence
>>572212850oh...
>>572210376"All girls are bisexual by default."This is what he means.
>>572205453Ok, but what if the butch dyke was a fixture of her imagination?
>>572211818Nice reading comprehension, retard. I'm complaining about the route skipping huge chunks of gameplay, not the fucking tone or morality. It doesn't even have any unique boss fights like genocide does, just a slightly harder version of an existing boss fight. You can only defend it by pointing at "but muh darker tone!!" because you can't engage with my actual argument so you're just regurgitating stock talking points assuming I'm pearl-clutching about the story content. I'm surprised you got any enjoyment out of those cutscenes considering you can't read or think at all.
>>572211692Good Aqua
>>572212819It doesn't sound like they're male or femaleIf they actually genuinely have a secret binary gender that they're not telling people about then you'd be right but if they're questioning which gender to pick then aren't they definitionally nonbinary for the time being
>>572213783Seth have not decided on their gender yet, among LGBT people it's called "Questioning", that's what "Q" stands for in LGBTQ. This is directly hinted at by Aqua saying "You don't know?", and other flowers collaborate that.
>>572213783>they definitionally nonbinary for the time beingThat's not how it works, "non-binary" is for when you already decided that your gender is non-binary.
>>572214049Yes I understood that, I said>if they're questioning which gender to pick then aren't they definitionally nonbinary for the time being>>572214154Sez who?If we're looking at this from a dictionary definition then they're not male and not female so they're nonbinary. This is different from a situation where e.g. somebody is questioning their gender but still presents as male until they figure it out because Seth isn't presenting as eitherIf we're looking at this from a vibes point of view then they're actively resisting being considered either male or female
>>572214638https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Questioning
>>572214946Yes I know about that, I am repeatedly explaining why that's not incompatible with being nonbinary in this caseDo you need me to draw a diagram
>>572215023You are working under presumption that "they" = "non-binary". That presumption is false.And do I need to explain why "I don't know" and "I know" are not compatible?While it's possible that they're currently exploring being non-binary, there's no indication of it, and jumping the ship and calling them definitely non-binary would be wrong.
