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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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i love my goober ralsei
UNDER THE SEAUNDER THE SEASTOP THIS LIVING HELLNO MORE DAMN SUSELLENOW LET'S *PROCEEDLIFE HAS BECOME MORE INTERESTINGEVER SINCE YOU GAVE ME THAT RINGWEIRD ROUTE JINGLEDELTARUNE SYMBOLINSERT SIDE B
drinking a bad apple monster rn
what if they kiss
Chapter 7 B leak
>>572212589that was for the handkerchief which made it actually difficult. took me like 3 tries to frealize it was fucking her. the scissors wasn't even the evidence.
I don’t really get the idea that darkners aren’t real because in the context of the setting dark worlds and it’s people are still some sort of physical phenomenon you can interact with, it’s like Mexico where you can talk to the locals, go in and out but the locals can’t get out
>>572212797Yeah, I'm thinking THIS is my vessel
I can now forcefully rip all the shadow crystals out of the holeCh7 SB better watch out
kressel slop lel at barney
I still can't get over the implication Noelle abused Kris in some way prior to the Weird Route. There's no way Toby intended that, right? Right??? RIGHT???????
>>572212814darkners are as real as your tulpa
Why did Gaster and crew kill the Onion? Aren't they trying to egg Kris closer to glitchy phenomena? I don't see why they'd stop Onion from delivering news about the music on the other side of the lake. What's their gameplan here? What did Onion find out?
JARONA
Post images of great power.
>>572212935
>>572212701>https://youtu.be/71QrPbamNZc?t=275
>>572212909I assume it's less abuse and more she did something like kiss him and he freaked out like the spastic that he is.
>Krisfags>Susiefags>Ralseifags>Noellefags>Berdlyfags>Cattifags>Jockingtonfags>Asrielfags>DessfagsStatus report on these groups?
>>572212701In file 2 the Kris is happyAs down in the waves they drownThe Kris in file 1 ain't happyThey not dicking Susie downBut Kris in the chair is luckyThey in for a worser fateOne day when the Knight get angryGuess who gonna be betrayed?
>>572212693I love him too, I really fucking wish I could hug him right now.
>>572212906KINO
>>572212906But enough about Kressel, how about soul x vessel
>>572212957The thing with 9's turning to 0's is so great, and somehow I completely missed it the first time
>>572212909Noelle stomped the shit out of Kris's hands when they did the ankle grab thing
>>572212797No pussy in this game could handle this
>>572212786Can I sex the kot?
>>572212964Someone needs to mod Breeders to replace all the monster girls with UTDR characters.
sjelter...
>>572212984>Ralseifagsdoing very good>>572212995based
>>572213045You date her until you tell her to go fuck herself
>>572212909If it was just Weird Route I'd think it was something to do with Dess but then there's the bit in the Noelle/Kris ferris wheel ride where she talks about how she -made- Kris write down their names in the ballot and ends on (Just like...) and I'm thinking something fucky is going on
Kirk-kun and Floyd-chan should have been spareable
Anyone know the artist who did this?
So he lived theFLOWER MAN, FLOWER MANWITH HIS HEART IN THE SANDSO HE STANDSTO WATCH THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD FROM A CANWAY UP HIGH IN THE SKYWITH THE SUN IN HIS EYESAIN'T IT NICETHE LIFE FOREVER FORFLOWERS
serious question: does susie actually smell or is it enemy propaganda
Dont fuck with Gaster motherfucker.we will EAT you. thats on prophecy, bitch ass vessel.
>>572212768
>>572212984Ralseifags and Noellefags are in the best position right now, for the others it's bleak
>>572212984>KrisfagsBarely hanging on>SusiefagsHolding on ok>RalseifagsRising up>NoellefagsNormal route? Uh, might be back in the Dark World? idk just not much to go onWeird route? SOARING AND ROARING>Berdlyfagslife support>CattifagsFucking dead and rotting>JockingtonfagsHairy>AsrielfagsDon't know why he didn't show up, he was meant to. Understandably coping>Dessfags*static roaring sounds*
>>572213160She does not have access to running water.
>>572213160Did you see a bathroom in her shitty appartment?
>>572213075the dield of panko breadcrumbs
>>572212928If Onion is in the lake then it could save Kris and Noelle before they get too deep and Wrong Warp
>>572212646Oh boy do I have a [Special Deal] for [Friendly Cutsomers] like you!I just want to take my [Business Card] and [Professionally] blow your [Expectations] out of your [Wildest Dreams]![Friendly Customers] like you belong in a [Single Room Appartment] while being kept awake by the sounds of [Corporate Synergy] as your girlfriend if getting [Befriended] by a group of [Basketball Players]!
>>572212701I cant unsee the gaster facenonzero chance it's legit because of "smile" and mus_smile
>>572213160she lives in a school closet and runs around all day, bitch smells like ass
>>572212984Source: I'm all three>KrisfagsReaaly worried for them, especially considering the dissociation thing>SusiefagsMildly concerned at her growing delusion.>RalseifagsThriving.
It’s over
>>572212935.
>>572213201She is the Sand guardian, guardian of the sand.
>>572212909I thought the same thing, it seemed a little skeevyToby clearly wants Kris to suffer so I won't entirely write it off
>>572212984>soul dindu nuthinstatus on these retards?
>>572212984Cucked to oblivion.Malding or overjoyed. Getting concerned about their golden boy.See Susiefags.A punctured spare SUV tire.Completely decimated.On track for best ending.Still not present.Waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQai9BKW3ESo Kris and Noelle absolutely went to the Meat Factory right
>>572213296animals don't sweat
>>572213316toby basically debunked all the purple guy theories now, i guess maybe he's some kinda slime under the mask
>>572213115likely the most powerful side npc in all of deltarune
>>572212909I doubt it was serious abuse, but it's likely that she bullied Kris and then played victim when they retaliated. Her parallel flower is Orange who does pretty much the same thing. Pink is the Dess equivalent.
>>572212984You forgot Jevilgang, ecstatic
>>572213316Don't worry it's just the purple dye from his costume leaking.
>>572213075helter sjelter (we got that PMA) face melter
>hey sorry Kris you are not allowed to have a cute catgirl gf or Berdly or anyone for that matter. its very important that you act as a cucked third wheel while i awkwardly try flirt with Noelle. also btw you pretty much got to do the flirting for me while i remain completely clueless and careless about your giant crush lol!i like Susie as a character but the way she just didnt give a fuck about Kris this chapter made me hate her somewhat. and i wonder how much of it is actually intentional.
>>572212701>>572212993
>>572213160my nigga have you ever visited a lizard enclosure? unless she's getting naked at the school fountain and scrubbing hard, she is fucking RANK
>>572213416I'm not drinking Everyman juice
>>572212909My take is that Kris' pranks on Noelle made her wanna do something nasty herself, but being the quiet girl who doesn't have experience with such things, she went way overboard with something.
>>572212797>flirt acts oneshot enemies
>>572213478On the other hand the Kris parallel is Aqua who's Like That so there was probably a lot of mutual teasing and miscommunication
>>572213479>jevilgangin the weird route, these niggas are swollen shore litter
i hope ralsei doesn't die
>>572213501Toby likes condescending characters
>>572213416Purple Guy Knight still hasn't been debunked. The Knight was weakened by the melting.
I really love this game but engaging with the community where everybody has an agenda because of ships or self-insertion is incredibly sad. I just like what Toby made.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING INTOTHE SONG ON THE LAKEARE YOU, ANON?
I love fish
>>572213501Maybe I'm giving that hack too much credit but it has to be intentional. I'm sure it doesn't come from a malicious place, but she clearly wants to monopolize his attention and presence
I am german and I think jumping bread person is deeply offensive.
>I think I forgot something.>If you forgot, then it wasn't important.>Yeah, you're right>
>>572213501Legit the only was I see this being justified is that she has a crush on Kris even if she don't realize it yet. She's been on the receiving end of support for her thing with Noelle all day and acting like this just seems so off unless she wants Kris to herself unknowingly.
>>572213337The SOUL has still done nothing wrong as long as you aren't on the doing something wrong route, which is entirely self-inflicted.
What's the tail stuff building up to, it seems like something more than just FRIEND having a tail. It seems like it's a fundamental reveal about humans and monsters in this universe that we just haven't gotten the pices for yet. All the flowers assume humans have tails. Maybe it really is some weird half human Susie thing
I love onions
>>572213703Oh yeah! I left my car keys in there! Let me just go back and get them.
>>572213501Toby is autistic and his special interest is teenage girls who are lesbians, please be understanding.
>>572212984>KrisfagsCrying themselves to sleep>SusiefagsSchizo themselves into believing Weird Roots isnt real>RalseifagsFlowery hate-maxxing>NoellefagsEating good because contents>BerdlyfagsAlso crying themselves to sleep>CattifagsAlso also crying themselves to sleep>JockingtonfagsStays winning>AsrielfagsStill believing he'll shows up before chapter 7's credits.>DessfagsStill jacking off to femdom shotacon
>>572213657Yeah, it's a little exhausting, I feel like taking a break myself. I'm getting flashbacks of /mlp/ frothing at the mouth about "best pony".
>>572213657yeah but shit is going downhill now because i dont like how its going.i close my eyes and see it, i clench my fist and seize it.
>>572212935,
>>572213672Gaster’s distrack he left in the lake is so shit he had to kill the onion before he could leak it
>>572213657brother, every fandom becomes this. well-adjusted people move on with their lives and the shiptards remain like the filth on a pot of fully boiled off water. tolerate it best you can until you too, boil off
>>572213758You didn't forget them. You lost them.Or maybe you really didn't care about this shitbox.
>>572213674That line of thinking would make the>I was jealous of you and Noelleline make actual sense instead of the nonsense it otherwise is. If she was jealous of Kris and targeted him cause of that, she should have killed berdly by now cause of all the time he spends with Noelle. If instead she was jealous of Noelle being the only person Kris talked to at school, that makes a lot more sense.
>>572213672Why is that irrelevant mysterybox there. Normal needs more respect, as he is Gaster's strongest soldier.
>>572213075
>>572213501She's a kralsei shipper
>>572213690cry about it, kartoffel.
>>572213703Can’t they just get Undyne to rip open the doors? We know she has enough power to lift a car
>>572213771I LIGHT MY TORCH AND BURN ITI AM THE BEAST I WORSHIP
>>572213763Jockington said if we hurt Catti's feeling we'd be up a ball without a court and Catti's feelings were hurt pretty bad and Jockington was nowhere to be seen.
>>572212605Aaaaaaah, sex with Aqua! Flower cunny! I need flower loli! Showing Aqua my cock and balls and letting her play with them however she wants! Having my cock and balls cut up and possibly castrated by Aqua!
>>572213735Half human, and as such capable of holding a human soul with her parts
>>572213770shipping will always be for retards i guess
>>572213945Jockington has brain damage
>>572213201You WaNnA dO SoMEthiNg ReaL CRaZY?EaT AlL thE SAND KriS!*kris on his knees eating the sand at an alarming rate as if this were something he'd do regardless of orders*
>>572213896Words cannot express how much I love this image. This is probably my favorite piece of Deltarune art.
>>572213919Undyne is locked in there, didn'tplaythegame-kun
>>572213732>susie, i totally respect you as a friend and i want nothing but your happiness. i know i'm up to what appears to be some chicanery but trust me, i love you platonically and maybe more but i have no time to explore this right now>piss your pants in front of susie>KRIS, I HAVE TO SEE WHAT SUSIE WILL SAY IF YOU PISS YOUR PANTS RIGHT NOW LOLyeah, (You) never do anything wrong bro. totally innocent and kris's constant rage is unfounded
>>572213926AND I KNOW SOON COME MY TIMEFOR IN MINE VOID A PALE HORSE BURNSBUT I FEAR NOT THE TIME I'M TAKENPAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN
>>572213945Who tf is we, Susie and Noelle did it
I want to ship Kris with Maddie, but I don't want to make it creepy. What could be a good explanation for her not being in school anymore? She dropped out? She just graduated?>>572213501I wonder if this changes if you never made Kris flirt with anyone.
>>572213657
>>572213981it all went into the beard, the price a man pays.
>>572213763Idk I’m a susie and noellefag and happy about both developments.
I can't stop thinking about him...
>>572214036>Situation you made up in your head reflects realityanon, are you okay?
>>572214085WAGE WAR LIKE NO TOMORROW'CAUSE NO HELL THERE WON'T BE ONEFOR ALL WHO DENY THE STRUGGLETHE TRIUMPHANT OVERCOME
>>572214091>I want to ship Kris with Maddie, but I don't want to make it creepy.Mew Mew likes Kris, Maddie likes Asgore.Maddie just has to put up with the fact that her body wants to fuck a teen.
>>572214195I can
>>572213501>third wheel while i awkwardly try flirt with NoelleI don't really understand why they feel the need of player presence? They both kinda get stuck in idle loop without the player, and even admit to it, both in ch4 and ch5.
>>572213974I'm kind of a shipfag myself, but I'll never understand people who treat it like a competition for screentime and seethe about it so much.
All the Shadow Crystal bosses are associated with dreams except for JevilAre we going to find out what Jevil's dream was when we take the Shadow Crystals to Seam? Will he finally back into Relevant?
Kris destiny is to be the wingman of king Susie and queen Noelle, they should never seek happiness because they don't deserve it.
>>572214091Just stop being a fag about it, it's fiction.
>>572213945Chapter 6
>>572213690I am not German and I thought the reference to the little German boy yippee video was funny
>>572214091>I want to ship Kris with Maddie, but I don't want to make it creepy.a 2-3 year age gap is really not that bad unless you're terminally online
>>572214091>but I don't want to make it creepy.Kris is 17-18, get over it. It's fine. Also they are both fucking drawings. If you purityfag about fictional age gaps you've got bigger fish to fry.
>>572213501The fact that the prophecy is "love finds its way to the girl" instead of "the girl finds love" is telling. Love is something that people can spend their whole lives seeking and never find, but Susie gets it for free.For lack of a better word, Susie is incredibly privileged in this aspect of life.Imagine having a rich nepo baby friend who's guaranteed financial success in life, and she shows up during your big important interview and ruins your chance of getting a higher salary.Imagine having a naturally big and strong friend who's somehow ripped without ever exercising, and she constantly drags you away from the gym so you can't get stronger.Imagine having a naturally smart friend who gets 100% on every test while barely trying, and she throws your books out the window when you try to study so you can't get better grades.
>>572213657blame toby for releasing each chapter separately
>>572214261It might be just Knight's Shadow Crystal, given to Jevil. The guy seems to be made out of stuff.
>>572214236Mew Mew is also a teenager because all dating sim heroines are so it's OK
>>572214036I don't pick the really stupid options unless they're something Kris obviously wants to say (fill shelter with hay new house for Susie)
I got myself too hyped up about action moments from this game to sleepFuck
bros i do NOT understand chapter 5 ost haters. at all. ive been looping like 7 of the tracks along with some bangers from the other chapters and idk. so many jams
>>572214335>picYou forgot to ask Kris
>>572214218TRIPS TO WHERE, FEW HAVE BEENOUT OF THIN AIR, UPON HIGH WINDSRITES BEGIN WHEN THE SUN DECENDSHAVE FELT WHAT FEW WILL EVER KNOWHAVE SEEN THE TRUTH BENEATH THE GLOWOF THE EBB AND FLOW, WHERE ROOTS OF ALL MYSTERIES GROWI AM BELOW, SO FAR BELOWTHE BOTTOM LINEactually insane how much some of these lyrics actually fit thematically. If DR was an anime, you could probably build a killer AMV with this.
>>572214441Not hate, it's just one of toby's weaker soundtracks imo. It's got standouts for sure, but a lot of it blended together most of the time.
>>572214195me neither, but in the opposite way
>>572214091She really doesn't look older than twenty
>>572214441I've sustained myself these past days from only 2 songs and 2 songs from ch5 alone, and when I might want a break from them I already have more ch5 songs at the ready to play a million times a single day
>>572214335Yeah, Susie is basically very high on life at the moment. She got so many good things so fast that it's easy for her to not notice all the bad ones that will lead to her crashing hard if she's not careful, and Susie is absolutely not careful.
Sustingus!
>yfw the knight is revealed to be a lord english-esque time traveling fusion of noelle and kris after the drowning under the lake?
>>572214441The shipping scene and all the theory crafting made a lot of people mad.
>>572214437even in this case, you have to admit that kris has the right have his little teenage melties against (You)r control, yes? even this>something Kris obviously wants to sayare (You) sure? because what if they are just fucked up intrusive thoughts? we can speculate but WE JUST DONT KNOW
>>572214441Who cares about the tracks. If the OST is good I don't notice it. Only when OST is bad I remember that OST exist. (I never noticed OST in any of the Deltarune chapters. I immediately noticed it in Mina The Hollowing, the stuff's grating on the ears)
Could someone explain to lil' ol' bain damge me what the fuck "This is the opposite of "I miss Tenna"" is supposed to mean?
>>572214445Kris stole one of the birdbrain's feathers when we weren't looking, I don't think we need to ask for Kris's consent.
>>572214445Blushing is consent.
Random question that popped up in my head because of Carol. if anyone knows.Does a mayor of a really small town still make good money? like a few hundred residence.
>saying that you should fill the shelter with hay so Susie has a new house is evil and Kris is innocent of all charges you should have your rights revoked
>>572214612They don't miss Flowey.
>>572214613>>572214617Also Kris won't talk to us even if we asked. Silence means "yes", baby!
>>572214568>sceneYou mean the like 30 min segment along with Susie refusing to shut up about Noelle the whole time in the darkworld? Yeah it was a bit annoying.
>>572214036i would NEVER let kris piss their pants
>>572214454Ride's philosophy in Beware is pretty much Flowey's mind.>Worship is not on bended knee>Nature knows not of mercy>To pray is to accept defeat>Power pisses on the weak>Bow and beheaded by the beast>Beggar on a bitch's leash>Scum is desperate for relief
>>572214625Oh absolutely, depends on the size but in general the pay is pretty swellAlthough I like to think the Holidays are old money rich rather than because Carol is the mayor
>>572214625No not really, but Carol is implied to be Asgore's landlord so they have other income streams.
>>572214669Susie says that she wants hay in her home in ch5
>Thank you for watching my dream.
>>572214625Small town mayor averages are around 40k annually.
Kris calling sans suicide hotline in the next chapter
>>572214535I was thinking of their ghost form but it's doubtful they look old anyway.>>572214625Her family might just have a sizable inheritance, though her support of Asgore's business might imply she backs other local businesses.
>>572214557rudy didn't take that lightly
>>572214625You also have to remember that they moved from Snowdin (presumably; it was a snowy town), they're not Hometown natives.
>>572214571>fucked up intrusive thoughtsIt's a joke and one that Susie also makes herself in chapter 5, relax. Also no it's not reasonable to steal the SOUL from its intended vessel and then get mad that it's its own person and not just a mindless object. It is a self-inflicted dilemma and Kris should be mad at themself and not us.
>>572214782Oh I teared up like a bitch when that started. I was not okay.
>>572214613>>572214617>>572214682Actually, more than that, how does Seth even know about Berdly?Kris must have talked about him (presumably positively) while in the presence of the flowers (i.e. in Asgore's room).
Imagine if Carol wasn't all in on the shelter group chat>daughter is missing>keep paying money to friend of the family to try and solve it>desperately try to keep your other sweetheart daughter at home>dreemurr kid starts getting in the way of the town miscreant trying to date your daughter>thankgod.jpg>wish them well at the festival tomorrow>>>husband gets injuured>both your daughters are missing>dreemurr kid is missing>you are now days away from being a widow with two dead kids
>>572214809
>>572214704I meant scene in the sense of community. I dislike Suselle too but it's still a relatively small part of the chapter.
>>572214782>didn't feel anything in that scene>everyone I know was moved by itI am an empty husk of a man
>>572214865For me, it was Flowery's final dialogue before the fountain's (first) closing>After all, we were never meant to live more than one day.This chapter is probably the saddest/most bittersweet to me
>>572214782DONT LEAVE ME
>>572214565>mfw I was called retarded for saying the Knight could be a Kris/Noelle amalgam days ago
>>572213926>>572213926AND IN THAT FIRE, I SHALL GO UNDER,TO TEAR THE BEAST ASUNDER.GREED, ENVY, WRATH ALL SIN,I HAD ALL CARRIED WITHIN.REMADE FROM ATTACHMENT,GIVEN A NEW GOAL.TO PROCEED. TO PURSUE THE DOE WHOLE.
>>572214873Might have gone there buying Noelle flowers and stuff a bunch, he did have that crush on her till chapter 2.
>>572212797/v/ please go back to where you all came from
>>572214441Personally there are like 5/6 great tracks but some of the others almost feel like they're fanmade (not talking about the collab ones)
>>572213501
I'm embarrassed to ask but what is a Jarona?
>>572214782I really wanted to hug them all. Sapience is both a blessing and a curse.
>>572214909>it's still a relatively small part of the chapterHalf of blues lines are talking about it, come on now dude.
>>572214861>steal the SOUL from its intended vesselwe don't know if that summoning shit did anything or how (You) get ripped out of the vessel. speculation. i get it, anon. (You) want to self-insert as kris and don't like to consider that kris is their own person
>>572213501I'm going to choose whatever dialogue options are worse for Susie next chapter, fuck her.
>>572214610
>>572215016My first association was with the song "My Sharona", and I think this was one of those phrases that just sound cool but don't really mean anything more than "how 'bout them apples".
>>572215016It's a Jaust kiddingIt's a play on this, asgore is an old man singing to his flowers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng
>>572214565It's still got a few problems like Kris ever having a modicum of respect for any version of themselves and how this would tie into whatever promise it is that Kris madeKris and Noelle traveling out of Hometown does parallel Undertale's barrier requiring a human and monster SOUL though
>>572214884i'm still not convinced that carol is more than a useful tool of the knight similar to asgore but perhaps a bit more useful than asgore
>>572215016your dad!
>>572215016Ja-Orange!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng
>>572215016If you check his skills when he joins the party, all of his spells are just misheard classic rock titles
>>572214935The point is that they can't be carried into castletown, that they would surely die and that their sentience is short-lived and since flower-darkeners are both inanimated and yet things, they will die when their flowers wilt.they literally said "thank you for spending my final days with me." before turning real (just flowers. no thoughts. no personality)
>>572215110>>572215124>>572215141>>572215152Thanks, that makes a lot of sense
>>572215016flowerys whole gimmick is that he is a hero from a badly dubbed anime>SAN FRANDISCO>FOUND A GLUE>GET A CHANCEMY JARONA is an extra layer on top of this joke to include a nostalgia inducing classic song, my sharona
>Noelle leaves town in weird route>Noelle says she doesn’t want to leave town if susie is there in normal route True dykeism is the barrier
>>572215016Well, it's not quite a "My Sharona", and it's not quite a Jabroni, but man... So to answer your question, I don't know.
>>572214935same
>>572214236>Extremely awkward MewKris/Madsgore double date
>>572215251>legally speaking this is shitposting now
Post Kriselle
>>572214637Oh fuck...
>>572215315Kek
>>572214884>only person who seems to know anything is said town miscreant>she doesn't actually know where your daughter went, just that she was last on the beach with the dreemurr kid
>>572214949
>>572215319I'm not sure if that is better or worse than Mad and Kris actually being an item while Mad still having a crush on Asgore.
>>572215053Why the fuck would I want to self-insert as Kris? I want my vessel back, I don't want Kris and never did. Also I'm not talking about Kris's chuunibyou exercise with Catti, I'm talking about the intro sequence and every scene where Kris puts the SOUL back inside instead of letting us go free. I would gladly fuck off if they would let me.
>>572215265>he is a hero from a badly dubbed animeAnd in the JP version he turns into Terry Bogardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY4WEigw1Fs
>>572215371I don't know why I quoted anon. Oh well
>>572215394
>>572215393sorry, not very good at this.i just like the pictures.saving them btw.
>>572214617Collecting Berdly's feather while making tender gamer love during a hot steaming session of Smash. Toby, sell it!
>>572215362I may not be much of a fan, but this ship produced some addorable art
>>572214519based
man it sure would be nice if kris learned a lesson from the maddie encounter and doesn't immediately throw the SOUL in a fucking garbage bin again
>DEVICE_FRIEND>Hurts you
Noelle chapter 6 crashouts>WR: Skipped (too free to crashout)>Normal: Loses it when she can't keep it together that Rudy is dying/dead but her friends need her to party. Will snowgrave as a crashout>Twisted: Will get angry that her friends tell her not to just kill everything with snowgrave. Will crashout that her friends don't want her strong.
>>572215430I appreciate that it's clearly just Toby in both languages.
>>572215505>ship>last we see of them in the weird route is of them sinking
>>572215430i was wondering what the reverse culturally relevant gimmick would be. because im fairly sure that mid 90's/2000's badly dubbed english anime bootlegs is exclusively a us/uk thing. any jp born millenials itt care to elaborate more?
Are DR humans still considered freakishly strong compared to monsters like they are in UT? I don't remember if that's come up at all.
>>572215489no it's fine
>>572214519Seethe and cope, Flowery auramogs little Chudsei ong
that's what you get for getting between me and pink and or berdly dumb dino haha
>>572215572>Don't let go, Kris
>>572214091Self-loathing grew so all-consuming she couldn't cope with public life anymore and just stopped going anywhere at allThere's at least some credence to this idea as hating herself seems to be a new trait that wasn't in her Undertale version, who was content with her lot in life but just really resonated with the Mew Mew mannequin
>>572215561Friendly playfighting!
>>572215598Nothing seems to imply this is the case. The closest is some kid being afraid of Kris because of them having blood, which may not be a human exclusive thing to begin with.
>>572215415>every scene where Kris puts the SOUL back inside instead of letting us go free>sees the start of chapter 5 normal route and still doesn't understand the situationanon, atp i have to assume you're just baiting me for responses
>>572215601you're alright, senpai.i like a lot of things at which i am terrible at.i think i told some undynefag once that i translated a fucking huge ancient german prophecy once.it is... oddly touching at the end, despite the fact that it speaks of a war that kills of a third of the world.
>>572214637Sweet sweet freedom, but also consequences.https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/83708845/#83711668Is there a way for Noelle to find happiness without destroying the world?
>>572215612Toby would be the goat if we get a recap for the WR in six when they realize we're gone. I'd take another one as short as this one was, just something would be a nice touch.
>>572215561It's always the ones the closest to you man...
>>572215362
>>572215603Don't be mean, the little guy is just trying his best
So question, what is wrong with liking cute shotas? My normie mom got mad at me but like, it's not like HUMANS have any rights in Hometown so like, I didn't broke the law or anything??? fucking bitch am I right
>>572214849I don't remember this. where was this from?
>>572215572kekwhen will shipfags learn
>>572215771December Holiday come down to the kitchen.
>>572215693nta, but I don't feel bad for a kid who steals candy loosing a tooth on one of them. Ours is a human soul, kris stole that shit from someone.
>>572212984>Dessfags
>>572214091They're not real anon who cares
>>572215693This guy may just be a lighter shade of CoL, he's been saying shit like this forever with the same phrasing every time.
>>572215771It's humans today, monsters the next. Stop touching Kris now before this becomes a real problem, Dess.
>>572215693They should use their own SOUL instead of mine. I know that fucker is cyan and not red. If they can't get it back from wherever it is right now, that's not my problem either. It's like the violinist thought experiment.
>>572215771If it makes you feel better, your mom loses her whole family and even her maid in a day, so that should show her
>>572215598In UT they're freakishly strong because the rules of the world are that of an RPG where your human party members effortlessly bop monstersIn DT the Light World works like a real world where humans and monsters are just different species and the Dark World functions like an RPG and this of course has Implications
>>572215845yo what the fuck?
>>572215716Yes. It will be in normal route.
>>572215914why Seth raped Berdly
Flowery is the best character in Deltarune by a country mile
>>572215362I do think we're all gonna need to detox from the horrors at some point with comfy kriselle.
>>572215890*fuck maid*
>>572215845oh my god
>>572215984Kris stop kissing her, she’s injecting melanin into your body
>>572215969I agree due to recency bias
Something sad that just occurred to me.Monsters are made of magic, right? Like dust and magic, they're not even water-based life forms? Not even on the same tree of life as anything in the real world?Doesn't that mean that humans are closer to plants than either of them are to monsters, biologically speaking?
>she's on to (You)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pebGTpuJSIk
>>572214809Literally fucked in half.
>Chapter 6>Susie is happy and content-looking>She exit with Kris to invite Noelle>She immediately collapses>"Water!" - she says hoarselyShe'll be fine after drinking from the water fountain, but that would be her wake-up call.
>>572215880lol no one wants to touch monster kids they are ugly and not cute at all
>>572216010fuck, two more make-out sessions and he'll be arrested for resisting arrest and having a gun (he had none)
>>572216028That's about the long and short of itFlowery saying that Ralsei is supposed to serve humans specifically is a tell for something
>>572213128wait just one secballot box tickets... the tickets to nowhere that kris made fakes of...
>>572215984>>572216010
>>572215785>* (It's Noelle's computer. The cycling wallpaper is...)>* (... Noelle's family in the snow.)>* (It's Noelle's computer. The cycling wallpaper is...)>* (... a picture of a far-off, snowy city.)
>>572216042There's no stopping the yuri, anon
>>572214949Isaiah 43:2
>>572216042>nth reason she deserves weird routing.
>>572215852>the SOUL is evil!>the SOUL isn't evil unless you personally choose to do evil things>uh possessing Kris is evil!>I didn't choose to possess Kris and would choose otherwise if I could>uh yeah well you're just CoL!SOUL haters are retarded
>>572213128>>572216120During the 10th anniversary stream omega flowey fight it flashed the "ballot box" wingding symbol (upper case X) during the cyan soul attack. "tickets" are also how we get to Nowhere in chapter 3, and it marks something with a red X. "X" is a Kris thing specifically with "XSlash on the weird route"
>>572215771
>>572216186There should be more art of the boy praying, underrated scene
I'm sure this is unoriginal as fuck, but my take on the "prophecy" is this:>The events of the prophecy are essentially a rule of the setting, and are "guaranteed" to happen in some form>This has happened at least once before in the past (leading to the death of Dess), but likely more than that given the existence of the religion.>There is some ambiguity in how the events of the prophecy are described, leading to the possibility of "reinterpretation">Kris/the Knight are aware of this, and are trying to deliberately force a specific reinterpretation of the prophecy which allows noelle to live - possibly by changing Noelle's role in the story. My best guess is that they've chosen to deliberately switch the roles of Susie and Noelle from the "2nd hero" and "the girl" but realistically it could be anything.>The soul exists outside of the prophecy, and has the potential to break it. Doing so requires performing the steps of the weird route (possibly because it relies on Noelle "getting stronger")>It's possible that even just getting the thorn ring and the twisted sword is enough to change the prophecy in some way, but based on how Noelle talks after the aborted weird route in chapter 5 I'm pretty sure the game is just going to contrive itself back on to the "true path" with some minor dialogue differences.I don't think Toby is actually going to have the balls to commit only to endings with a guaranteed death though, maybe outside of ralsei (by forcing all of the fountains closed) so most likely he's going to compromise that vision by allowing the prophecy to change through the power of friendship or some bullshit.As a separate theory I'm 99% sure Ralsei is an item Kris always has on his person unless there's some time we see Ralsei in a dark world without Kris.
Queen would’ve been the only person to genuinely piss Flowery off
>>572215716Kek, they're out of line but they're not wrong
post (weird) noelles
>>572215124Not only singing, Flowery is parroting whatever Asgore told his flowers, but he still deforms some words, like "clue" becoming "glue".
confess your sins
I feel like this isn't talked about enough. Asgore talks about a Dark Fountain in the past, we can assume that it was related to the disappearance of Dess. So far it's only been Kris and the Knight that's been opening fountains and Susie that one time but that's irrelevant to the discussion. But if Dess is the Roaring Knight, who opened that first fountain? Kris as a little kid? Or is there someone else?
>>572216217>>the SOUL is evil!Never said that. The world isn't black and white, anon.
>>572216137
>>572216103It's a tell for the fact that Ralsei is obligated to serve the player, who is human, above anyone who exists in the game.
>>572215561:(
>>572216103if the schizo theory that Ralsei = UT Asriel/Flowey that line would be so funny, just dredging up Chara for no reason
>>572213128from the top of the ferris wheel, one could "see too far" btw, that might have been the catalyst for noelle's insane glitch behavior
>>572216083>(he had none)He also refused to quit reaching into his pocket
>>572216279How will noelle feel when the change was made by us the parasite inside them and we fuck off.
>>572216318Either Kris or Dess.
>>572216323
>>572216186the waters may not drown us nor will the fires burn us but we are going to pay with our lives or there will be hell to pay.
>>572216319If you follow the reply chain, the argument started with this post calling the SOUL evil >>572213337
>>572216070?
>>572213160Picture the aroma of a sweaty Susie...
>>572216476>Junior Jaronas
>>572216476Jaruniors
>>572216272Was Shelby Cragg the one who cucked Chuggaaconroy for Toby Fox, or was that a different girl?
>>572216295I’m not doing a pacifist route because I’m lazy so my only saves are my weird route and the aborted weird route for 5I have not recruited a single darkner willingly
Noelle has a flawed sense of freedom and it will blow up in her face like Spamton.
>>572216318The Primordial Darkness under the town exists regardless of a fountain, the Prophecy is just an endless sacrificial ritual to temporarily beat it back to stop the end of the world.
>>572215845Maybe it's for the best that she went missing
>>572216318My theory is that "the prophecy" is cyclic:>But, like, what's amazing, is how, like, these heroes,>Are like, oh my god, they're like...>The thing is, they could be like, any one of us, you know?And the roles in the story could be any given person. The current "knight" and Kris are conspiring to force a specific interpretation of the prophecy to achieve some specific outcome (most likely Noelle's survival)
Everyone in Undertale tells you to not do the Genocide route, no one tells you to stop the Weird Route. I think WR is required for the true ending.
>>572216546I don't into homestuck lore, gonna need to bark up another tree for that.
>>572216441
>>572215952It will be another dilemma then. Noelle loves her creation, but she created her to be slain. If Susie is not slain, the roaring happens. If she is slain, Noelle is heartbroken. There is no happiness. Nothing changes.
>>572213763>Jockingtonfags>Stays winningjockington stockingtons have never been so high
>>572216558Noelle is absolutely going to get Used Up during Chapter 7 Side B if she wasn't already just to get there
>>572216546Shelby Cragg is a Homestuck fanartist who was popular on Tumblr and I can't imagine how she would even share any social circles with Chuggaconroy
>>572216638I think it's like Oersted's chapter of Live-a-Live, it's a villain origin story , you can do the ending but it won't make full sense without both routes
I wasn't a believer in fusion theory until I remembered it happened in Homestuck and I could completely believe circa Deltarune feverdream Toby would've thought it was an awesome idea to do. "Only one ending" works too if 7B loops back to become a stable fixture of the prophecy>The Dark Bead breaks off because it's now a new bead in the deterministic tapestry of DeltaruneIt's like some Philip K Dick shit about time being a tape that writes recursively on itself as it loops back around
>>572215603
>>572216454Remember to hydrate, folks! Dark World beverages are fake.While she could feel the real body's hunger in ch1, right now she's too immersed. She does not feel the thirst.
>>572215969Glue!
>>572216432She knows it's not kris, even if it's not fully sunk in just yet, we told her we were listening after all.
GUYS QUICKLY I DONT HAVE MUCH TIME I WAS AT THE LAKE EARLIER AND I SAW
>yfw it turns out that Toriel, Asgore, Carol and Rudy all know about the Dark World because they were in this position before >yfw Kris's human parent was part of that group and that's why Asgore and Toriel took him in and why Carol and Rudy see him as a nephew
Poor fucking guy honestly. He's like Ralsei on steroids, he knows everything that's gonna happen, and according to the prophecy he dies and his King, the one person he cares for more than anything in the world is kidnapped (or worse) and he stands here against us trying to break the unbreakable fate. Gotta respect his Jaronas
>>572216318It's not talked about cause there was fuck all to go with it. It was just>Oh yeah one opened up years agoand glossed over. One of the issues people had with the chapter was it doing shit like that with a character's arc who has been chasing this dragon since it hatched.
>>572216042Kris will be tamed. It will take 11 hours, 11 days, 11 years, 11 centuries, I don't care, Kris will change.
>>572216689we're STRAIGHT going nuclear.this bitch is going off the rails harder than i ever thought.i'm all for it.
>>572215886>violinist thought experimentputting aside the opening part about matching blood types because we have no idea if a relevant corollary is true in deltarune, (You) aren't helplessly shackled to kris. the two of you are mutually locked into a double victim situation with competing agendas. (You)r agenda is fuckery with kris's life because you have no way of knowing what kris actually wants at best or malicious voyeurism at worst. kris is under no obligation to make things easier because (You) can just turn the game off and walk away. kris is doing what it takes to achieve their goals and keep (You) engaged. Toby wrote a whole ass main character (ralsei) to illustrate how important it is to keep (You) here and ig no one gets it
>>572216835>The Forgotten Man was the sacrifice in the iteration before Dess and Asriel's
>>572216619Kris asked her. She obliged. Kris enjoyed it.They were both underage at that point. The law doesn't care about school adventures.
>>572216295I'm probably gonna watch Weird Route on YouTube because I'm too attached to all the characters.
>>572216042Post Homestuck Runes.
>>572216689>if she wasn't already just to get thereToby better fucking not, he's made her more interesting in 5 minutes than she has been in almost a decade. Do not take this away from us instantly.
>>572216637I agree. The black shards being shard between crime scenes doesn't mean it's the exact same Knight, just that "the Knight" is always made up of the same black shard material. It also explains why there was a large gap in Knight activity and why the Knight existed back then without the current set of heroes.
>>572216546different girl, that was before homestuck
>>572216726I didn't believe it until I looked back at the following evidence:>Malius saying he needs the BREAD MASTER to do FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE and NEW FUSIONS>Spamton's "communion" line when asked about the knight, previously used for AlvinKnightersCommunion, as in breaking bread.... and Noelle goes to church
>>572216707Wtf is wrong with susie
>>572216898She perioded to hard :( but she left behind a really cool red marker drawing of two pippins kissing!
>>572216662despite everything, I do believe there's a world where they're both happy together
>>572216816another victim of the hometown reaper...
>>572216995Susie says Kris is not allowed to experience love
>>572216978>But I thought the Knight only appeared alongside the heroes...?The funniest possible answer is that Rudy was the Knight, but for a completely different generation of heroes.
>>572216960Can someone explain why everyone called chapter 5 Toby's homestuck moment? What happened with Homestuck why is it and its ending regarded as a meme
>>572216726I think Caliborn and Calliope were introduced after Toby's fever dream happened
Rudy knight is the only reasonable answer
>>572217008noelle WOULD be a pippinshipper.now i feel bad for the kriselleshipping that i only did to protect the dino in the first place.>have enemy>rape said enemy>enemy ends up liking itcrud.
Chapter 6 called shot: Kris will tell Carol Susie has the police code for the shelter, so before Susie can invite Noelle to Castletown, Carol will have Toriel and/or Napstablook pull Susie out of class for questioning about Asgore's disappearance, both to stop her getting any closer, and to keep her away from Noelle. There will be an actual witness who saw Susie and Kris leave the shop the previous night, but Carol naturally makes sure YOU are kept out of it.
>>572217025
>>572216851The chapter's kinda dour when you realize they both know he's gonna die in an hour or so
>>572217108Blue would've not been as hated if this was his only facesprite
>>572217025weird route will save us, anon.
>>572212935Why are Floradinns so much better than Rudinns?
>>572216995My take is that Susie is as possessive of her friends as Kris, the difference being that Kris only has her and Ralsei while her circle keeps expanding and she's none the wiser.
>You tell Noelle she would ride Ferris Wheel with you in ch2 Weird Route>Ralsei tells us to not ride the Ferris Wheel with Noelle in ch3>In ch5 Ferris Wheel with Noelle does not happenSo Toby chickened out after the rose and latinx outrage? Ferris Wheel was clearly intended for the Weird Route
>>572216707How could the knight do this???
>>572216042Shit like this gives me hope that toby will not flake on the abandoned from chapter 5 route. The Noelle that comes to the darkworld after the lake can not be the same one that would come during the normal route.
>>572217102And now he's dying of Dark lung cancer because of it
>>572217179That would be cool but we're getting hospital dark world one way or another and the most likely reason is Susie telling Noelle all about dark worlds.Not impossible that we lose her AFTER, though.
>>572217248Speedreader-kun...
>>572217103>Terrible pacing after a pivotal plot shift>Intense focus on poorly received romance>Introduction of a large number of new characters>Introduces new Weird Plot Bullshit (plantners, game rule awareness, etc) before resolving ongoing plot threads>Increasingly long development due to increase visual spectacle
>>572217179The witness?
i love buckethead <3
>>572217025Shadow Crystals show that world:>* For some strange reason, for a brief moment, it looked like...>* Everyone else disappeared...>* ... and you saw Noelle smiling at you, with arms full of flowers.
>>572217103Waning relevance, basically.
>>572217116Didn't the story already include other elements of information being sent back in time to establish antagonistic elements? Especially considering information being sent to the beginning of the timeline that sets up the creation of Jack Noir who clearly informs the design of the Knight
>>572217296>introduction of a large number of new charactersCome on, he made sure to kill all of them off once he was done.
>>572217229It's the mellowness and the fact that they don't always get what's going on but try to live their best life.
>>572217296>>I'm a retardYou should've just said so anon, why waste all that time on your post
>>572216898samesies. all the spamton sweeps writing about noelle's obsession with game glitches aren't canon, i know. but boy oh boy did it make me thirsty for noelle's any% meltie run
>>572217229They're made of Asgore's weed stash.
i do kind of wish that deltarune was less comedic and more ethereal, esoteric and wild as it went on. sort of feels like that would be the natural progression after chapter 4.
>>572217354lol you wishdeltarune has 25k players on steam and marathon (new game by BUNGIE!!!!!) has 5k
Predict what the True ending will be, I only accept Hopium, any one who suggests a bad ending is a lost lamb, that must be guided towards the never ending light that is HOPE!
>>572217296>game rule awareness>newIt's been there since at least chapter 2, and Susie dismissing it because someone already told her is the game telling you that you should already know this while also not revealing Toby's whole hand
>>572217108This bit was so fucking funny. I don't really understand people hating Blue when this was one of my favourite gags in the chapter
>>572217225
>>572217373nta, even worse it amounted to nothing other than MAYBE alluding to Ral being a plant himself. That and the seeds are all that came from the flowers existing in regards to the actual plot.
>>572217373That's better than Hussie ever did, that's for sure.But I'm not the only one who had flashbacks to the shitty flash RPG textdumps upon seeing the Take a Break With feature.
>>572217248>Ralsei tells us to not ride the Ferris Wheel with Noelle in ch3no, ralsei tells you it's a bad idea to go to the festival with noelle
So uh who did Kris used to day stop too? Why did Noelle not help?
>>572217462chapter 6 and chapter 7 will be full of despair and they will turn the whole fandom into depressed wrecks I just fucking know it
>>572217462I honestly like the juggling of comedy and drama, it is cozy early on and adds an air of smiling in the face of the inevitable in the later chapters.
>>572217523
Tenna>Funny>Cares for Toriel>Only wanted everyone to have fun>Best minigames>Tailor fit for the Dreemurrs as he has BPD like Kris and Toriel>Also a victim of divorce>Took the Knight head on alone like a true hero>Theme singlehandedly saved Chapter 3 soundtrack>Beloved by all>Nice assFlowers>Ugly>Annoying>Power of friendship AND STILL jobbed to the KNIGHT>Also die at the end of the chapter lol what a loser>Insincere sexyman bait nobody took>Only existed to propel Ralsei development and still suck at it>Even Asgore said he never gave a shit about them and just wanted to solve the case
>>572217514As >>572217193 said, Blue's talksprites should've been only the butterfly as not only would it have made him stand out much more but also so he wouldn't look like uncanny handsome squidward
>>572217492Good guys win, bad guys lose, intricacy is for losers
>>572217462toby said it in the newsletter. let's have one last fun adventure. you're getting what you want for 6 and 7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xpAqxH2Kzw
>>572217627
>>572217637>Took the Knight head on alone like a true heroYeah he took the Knight's head straight through his fragile little VIDEO IN port
>>572217309Natch>>572217287It could be the tipping point for Kris' conflicted loyalties, and maybe before we go on a Monkey Island style quest chain to free Susie it's Kris that reveals Castletown to Noelle. Two sides of the Route coin sort of thing where it's always us that confirms the truth of it. And Berdly too is in this Dark World because at this point we will need a breather and some chuckles in this otherwise grave situation for the Fun Gang.
>>572217492schizo kino involving weird route kris and noelle boundary breaking into a normal route save with a final battle between kris/noelle and kris/ralsei/susie
https://youtu.be/0S01v2giEew
Does Kris hold his breath during the knight fight cause He and Dess almost laked themselves years ago and that's how she died?
>>572217572We don't go to the festival with Noelle, either
>>572216914>(You) aren't helplessly shackled to krisYes I am? The only way to not be shackled to Kris is to not play the game at all, but the game over screen indicates that that ends the world which hardly seems like a good alternative.>(You)r agenda is fuckery with kris's lifeNo the fuck it's not. I don't want to be involved with Kris's life at all. I want to play around in dark worlds on my own without Kris.>kris is under no obligation to make things easier because (You) can just turn the game off and walk away.Which causes their whole world to end. I don't think it's acceptable to kill everyone else because Kris is a dumb teenaged asshole.
>>572217662>"FUN ADVENTURE"bro i want to go full flowey ever sicne ch5 dropped and i am really sceptical that ch6 will put a cork in that.
>>572217514>I don't really understand people hating BlueUgly.
>>572217637Long-nosed mail hands typed this post
>>572217729it's because of >>572217272 this
>>572212605Hooman!
>>572217637I’m going to touch you
Sex with old women. Lots of sex with old women.LOTS of Bed Breaking Romantic Sex while holding hands leglocking and screaming sexing SEX!
>>572217701
am I the only one completely uninterested in the weird route? hearing all these people saying you'll need saves from both routes to get the true ending kinda pisses me off because you didnt need a genocide route save to get the pacifist ending in undertale
>>572217492you get fucked in the ass by ralsei (literally)
>>572217662But why? I thought chapter 3 was the last fun adventure before the knight showed up and started kidnapping people, followed by the "fuck you nigga you're gonna die" prophecy chapter. Why would we go back to goofing off after that one?
>>572217823
>>572217757ugly, black, suselle-shipper, transvestite.need i say more?this bitch is so fruity, the normal fagflag wasn't enough for xir, that cunt has the "intersectional" fagflag written all over.bitch is some nightmare straight from ba'al's rape dungeon.
haha
Why do people insist on forcing NoexKris? They are just friendsSusiexNoe feels more natural and developed.
>>572217849Ralsei's massive 12 incher umping gallons instantly just from touching you....
>>572217838You needed a neutral end save unless you were a walkthrough user, it would not be the first time toby expected you to finish the game more than once to see the end.
>>572217637Trvke btw. Chapter 5 will be remembered as the worst Deltarune chapter for all eternity
>>572217514nigga's too zesty
>>572217757I'm not normally homophobic. this is one of those rare exceptions.
>>572217838I can understand not wanting to DO the weird route because it’s assumed there will be consequence, but not caring about it at ALL? How?
>>572217746>No the fuck it's notthen just turn the game off. do you remember the survey program? what you agreed to?
>>572217814I can fix her.
>>572217102I think it's Carol and that the end of the prophecy involves the Girl becoming the Knight. Susie has the title "Dark Knight" in chapter 1 after all.
>>572217731"Don't go to the festival" can also be interpreted as "don't meet noelle that day". Kris tries to stop you by sleeping all day but in the end you still make it to her.
>>572217924Hi Toby, add an in game map if you're gonna make a map as big as the dark world in chapter five ever again.
>>572217662>6Nope. Gonna have one more time, the fun adventure. Rudy is alive. Get ready for Ice-E Dark World!
>>572217924NoexRal Noesei if you will is much better and kino and has more going for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY4WEigw1Fs&t=30sHAY BOYS
>>572217925hot
>>572217973Doggo I know you're here, can you fucking make more art and post on Twitter less
>>572217874
>>572215845wow i would hate it if that happened to me poor kris no wonder he's so depressed aha
>>572217889*places purple susie binky in your precious little mouth**rocks your flowey crib with you swaddled in your ERAM themed blankies*Shhhh shhh little krautbabe, it’s time for a bedtime story. How does “the pippinsfoid who ate dynamite” sound?
>>572217860It would still make sense as a chapter where Susie wants to take her mind off the impending prophecy bullshit and have another fun romp like chapter 1 if both of the previous chapters didn't end with "Kris this dark world shit gets serious we gotta do something about it"
>>572217973At her age and with Kris' genes, whatever child forms from their bonking will be on the spectrum. Hell, they might invent a whole classification for them.
#FartFuckingTasqueNunUntilTheSheetsTurnGreen
>>572218106What?
Who likes suselle
>>572218051Think happy thoughts.
>>572218009>Rudy is alive.>Rudy is the knight*>ICE-E Dark World>Hospital Dark World*nothing fun about either of these facts
>>572217838honestly i don't want to do the weird route just because i assume it takes so fucking long. the main game is already long enough and i'm not even sure there's even that many changes to the game on the weird route (in terms of minor things) to make me want to keep pushing on through it. by the time i get to chapter 5 that will be like another 20 hours spent on top of the 20 hours i already spent getting to chapter 5 on my normal playthrough.
>>572212687Doodled what Susie was attempting to stop with Mew Mew
Don't make an enemy when you can make a friend.
Berdly is a good dude and didn’t crash out after being rejected 3 times in a row.
>>572218083It's weird that Susie found out that getting coochie is one of the in-universe trumpets of revelation, and then proceeded to not mention the prophecy at all the next day and be really enthusiastic about getting coochie.
I think a hospital dark world is unlikely because there's almost nothing in the hospital that would make a good Darkner aside from the ICE-E pain chart, bead toy, and Angel doll, and you can't have a dark world with only three Darkners. Also the environments would probably be really boring and same-y.
>>572218163friend inside me
ralsei gooned 3 times to his skyrim mods today and it's to the point where he has exhausted himself so ralsei is considering just ordering food delivery to his apartment, ralsei is feeling too lazy to go grocery shopping today.
>>572218170He got in the way
He will come back to us, at the turn of the tide.
>>572217757I get the hate but to me he's the second funniest flower after yellow. He's ugly in a funny way (probably not intentional). Just seeing this zesty ass nigga dressed as a butterfly with a tutu acting all fruity is just so fucking surreal I can't really take it seriously.
>>572218163pedo
>>572218153niceAre you the person who drew the Kris x Pink sex images?
>>572218146
>>572216295Toby "I'm not trying to appeal to gooners" Fox after he created Nun Tasque Manager
i really like this kris art
>>572217492>HopiumUnironically why not. Here's mine:>The Knight is either sealed in the Shelter World completely alone or manages to escape out of bounds of the game and never returns>Susie turns into a Darkner in the name of sacrifice>Ralsei becomes a Lightner to keep the balance>Kris is swayed to the side of good after Susie physically stops them and Ralsei gives them a verbal thrashing inspired by Flowery's best work>Noelle has to deal with Rudy dying, but he gives her some inspiring words before he goes, and she snaps out of her impending escapism madness last second>Castle Town is no longer in the closet, but the shortcut to it is hidden inside a trinket that the gang share - it only works on a full moon or something, so that they can't just go there all the time
>>572218272yes
>>572218228Assuming there's nothing under the hospital
>>572218135does it count that i hate the player enough to think that he deserves to get cucked by susie scissoring his childhood friend that fucked out of his life and only re-appeared to steal the only friend after the incident?either ch6 fixes that shit or i will overwrite that aborted weird route save. i am fueled by spite.
>>572218273
does flowery acknowledge pink at any point
>>572218218susie is quick on the uptake, not extremely intelligent
>>572218283No, I believe he called himself Toby "King of Ero Games" Fox.Hence all the NTR and the Nun Tasque Manager.
>>572218258It's the fact that I know Toby wants me to take him seriously that rubs me the wrong way.If he'd been exactly the same in a completely different game, I think I'd find him a lot funnier.
What went inside Kris' head as we forced him to PROCEED into the water with Noelle?
>>572217558>But I'm not the only one who had flashbacks to the shitty flash RPG textdumps upon seeing the Take a Break With feature.If you had flashbacks to Homestuck upon seeing a very common thing in RPGs (optional short skits between characters) then maybe you should play more RPGs
>>572218307if you do requests, Pink Mew Mew titjob
Ok, Ralsei, listen, I know you're in a bad mood but that look on your face is making you look 10 times more adorable please stop before I kiss you on your mouth.
>>572218273Why did Krismass Krispiss himself?
I haven’t thought about Undertale in years and haven’t played Deltarune but I used to cum buckets to Mettaton in his pink ghost form.
>>572218365
>>572217838>>572218150It’s not as much a chore as genocide, and only Spamton Neo Solo is a little bit of a struggle. You have plenty of time to slowly get through it. Keep in mind there’s also still no real confirmation it will be required for the “true ending”. It’s just speculation. I care more about the actual story as well, but I do hope we get similar themes executed of Noelle in a more natural/positive manner in normal. We’ve already kind of seen this already with her saying she wants to stay in town with Susie, as opposed to doing the obvious in Ch. 5 WR.
>>572217637Tenna won
>>572218425blblblb
>>572218287it's really good, yes.
>>572218449based and bedsheet pilled
This chapter gave us the shocking revelation that Floradinns fuck each other and pretend the other person is Flowery
these threads are moving so fast. its hard to keep up which posts are made by my friends
>>572218509We're all friends here.
>>572218135Suselle is cute, and I like all the cute scenes. It is a little odd how open to it Susie is now, but I still enjoyed the princess carry lake stuff.
>>572218435>one thing Kris could have said to instantly defuse all of Ralsei's anger
>>572218135I want them to be happy together.
>>572218509It's okay, they're all made by me and I'm your friend anon :3
>>572218425... i never scored
>>572218361>picrelI love how the whole of the internet defaulted to>Evil man forcing woman and corrupting herwhen we now now that bitch wanted it bad. It really should have stood out how she was scooting up to us before this on that long ass sofa right after we made her freeze her friend.
>>572218091me checking these threads and seeing they are still awful and unusable since the release of the new chapter
>>572218509*braftps*
>>572218549tranny art
>>572218425>Oh god Noelle is fucked up>My only regret is I couldn't sacrifice my dad
>>572218509literally no one likes you
>>572218532fax brother
>>572218435>how about now anon
>>572217968I'm clearly accepting it since I'm playing the game. That doesn't mean I have to accept retards on 4chan claiming that the player is evil. Your dumb posts are not covered by the license agreement, sorry.
>>572218454
>>572218564That one time with Dess doesn't count?
>>572218365how do i meet a woman with a personality similar to noelle
>>572218569>I love how people were acting upon chapter 4 info, while I now have chapter 5 info and I can act superiorShut the fuck up you nerd
>>572218380He fears her and pretends she does not exist in order to maintain his ego, as he should. Joking aside, no I don't think he does a single time. Were it any other shadow boss that'd be fair, cause they all are kinda like that with Seam being the only one who really talks about them, but orange was in the room before and after the fight, so it's another of those weird things about the chapter that leave it feeling a bit half baked.
Noelle is evil guise is just as one-sided of a take as Noelle isn’t evil guise.
>>572218693>implying it was just the once>implying it was just dess
>>572218693fanon
>>572218680>mfw Susie says Kris and Noelle disappeared
>>572218435Looking forward to him lashing out at Noelle for doing something dumb and starting a fight with Susie over it?
>>572217929>unless you were a walkthrough userI beat TP on release before walkthroughs even existed. It's not hard to figure out that you should spare enemies and befriend people when given the opportunity.
>>572218509I like you and you're my friend but I'm posting considerably less lately even without Mettaton just because of the /v/-style dishonesty and ironypoisoning being frequent in EVERY thread, hope they leave soon but It's been a few days now and stuff is still shitty... at least playing games with /utg/ is fun.
He's so stupid
Anyone else get the feeling that Susie is possessive of Kris? It's probably played for laughs when she played opposite wingman for Kris during the Maddie cafe interaction, but Susie also shuts down Berdly for Kris and interrupts Ralsei in the hot springs. Susie, like the dragon she is, treats Kris as a part of her hoard.Sorry Kris, I get a cute doe girlfriend that was your childhood friend, but you're not allowed cuz I need you as my 24/7 support human. You're cool with that right? Of course you are dude, you're the best.
>>572218686Kris give me the fucking wheel, Kris I can still put us back on track.
Burgerpants learns there is more to life than pussy
even if we argue about trannies and it all gets so vitriolic in here and we're at each others throats, at the end of the day, we're one big family :D
>the player is evilno one wrote that
>>572218702Even then, there was the thank you dialog more than once before c5 if you chose to think about Noelle, there was always something there that didn't fit.
>>572218895
>>572218886They're all co-dependent retards.
>>572218252>Weird route Chapter 7>Gamers Don't die Kris... We Respawn..!>Berdly is revealed to have been fighting inside the ice and got insanely jacked from the training arc>I don't know what you did to Noelle but I SHALL CHANGE FATE>prophecy is revealed that a Hero would come fourth when everything is at it's darkest with a symbol of bird wearing crocs, and the statue made by berdly was actually foreshadowing this.
>>572218918/v/ tourists are no family of mine
>>572218736it would be funny if he was deliberately ignoring her because he was annoyed at her trying to insert her OC into the flower lineup
>>572218919the player is jevil
>>572217906What the fuck is wrong with Noelle man
>>572218569i am actually unsure if they plan to redeem noelle, because toby probably doesn't even see anything wrong with this all.and from toby's perspective you are still just forcing a helpless and innocent doe, realize eldritch horors.like i heard it explain: eldritch horror is not seeing the incomphrehensible but comprehending the incomprehensible.knowing concepts you are not supposed to know, things you should have no point of reference.its like teaching a fish what music, giving it appreciation for it and then showing it jazz.but then you put it back into the pond and it has to dread its whole life knowing things it can't even begin to explain anyone.noelle touched something that is outside of the bounds of the game and comprehended the incomprehensible.and she - in her endless cycle of passiveness, finally sees her way out. she does not need to be defined by her mother, she is no longer defined by this world or her earthly shape.fantasy and her truth can break the bonds and have her reach into the world beyond.
This one especially make Ralsei look like he's on the verge of a breakdown. Actually a little heartbreaking to see him like this.
>>572218886Yeah, said it here before>>572217246
>>572218886She's used to having nothing so now that she has something she's holding on like crazy even though some of the things she wants are mutually exclusive i.e. love finding its way to the girl while somehow averting the end of the prophecyIt's played for laughs in chappy 5 but will become more of an issue going forward
>>572218842And you randomly went back for the dates needed to get it at the end without first finishing the game then reloading?
>>572218919Only redditfags are insistent that the player/SOUL is evil and responsible for all of Kris's suffering. Ignoring the fact that Kris more than likely kidnapped the SOUL or willingly became it's cage as part of the "greater plan"
>>572218701You can't. Reality is brutal.
>>572218905No there isn't
>>572218984God I wish
>>572218961
https://poal.me/xq6ael
>>572212687Quick doodle to warm up. It's thankfully gotten cooler and I can get back to drawing finally! Chapter 5's been bouncing around my brain since it released and it's kinda fun being back on a general again.
>>572217906IT'S SOME KING OF KRIS GRAVE
>>572218886>Susie is possessive of Kris?it's rapidly gone from>i really like these adventures!in ch2 to>i wouldn't want the adventures to ever stop!in ch4 to>these adventures WILL NEVER STOP
>>572218961cringe.>>572219064based.
>>572215845i just beat my shit to this so hard i felt a blood vessel in my eye pop, you got any more?
>>572219006The price of being real. Better to let it out than to bottle it at least.
I refuse to shake hands with people who created the duck machine and created the duck outfit
>>572219001>from toby's perspective (victimized headcanon)
>>572218969>Gets hit with whatever bullshit spell Noel has after the lake>Dieslmao
>>572218349There's nothing under the hospital that isn't under the rest of town too
goob
I hear onion-san got sent to a nice farm upstate.
>>572219006when is it used?
>>572219116Would you shake my webbed foot though?
At this point I feel like the player is the only person who doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
>>572219169
>>572219103https://files.catbox.moe/krmo14.png
>>572219168I hear Asriel is in college
>>572219064
>>572219130what do you mean?
>>572219130They always do it. They really don't like the idea that we might have just tapped into something that was always there for her.
>>572219217absolute patriot, thanks man
>>572219217God i wish I was kris here
>Ralsei when the knight slashed Flowery's 999s
>>572219217Erm why is she crying
>>572219302>when the cheater gets votekicked
>>572219242
>>572219071zamnthat's good shit.
>>572219302999 can be slashed into 000 and so can 666 but not 777 hmmmmm
>>572219343
i want ralsei to be his true self...
>>572219332Cuz she was a one pump chump who couldn't even last against a child
>hat ralsei in chapter 5We need edgy susie back in chapter 6
I am the g
>>572218886>Susie, like the dragon she is, treats Kris as a part of her hoard.Y'know, maybe it actually is intentional...
I'd like to think under different circumstances Noelle would be very territorial about anyone getting close to Kris.
>>572219217Did he shit himself?
>>572219302>What ralsei thinks they looked like ve how they actually reacted
I wanna see Ralsei actively beat the shit out of enemies more oftenI gave you the puppetscarf for a reason, I wanna see you use it
i am the meh! i am the meh!
>>572219052
>>572219217Is there a place where this stuff gets archived? I kinda dont wanna save it on my drive
>>572219448#hoarded
>>572219528Meh-meh!
>>572219432She's gonna do it to whoever pushes back against bringing Noelle into the shit.
Will it be slop or gem if the last boss track is a Hopes and Dreams arrangement
>>572219001I'm rooting for Noelle. I hope she grows so drunk on the unfamiliar feeling of power and control, she fucking destroys everything. She's the Chara of Deltarune, I'm certain of it now.
>>572219583both
>>572219514That fire's gonna come into play eventually.
Why do people say Toby is a closeted trans lesbian?
>>572219580And what if Noelle is the one that pushes back?
Imagine sans fucking Kris's mom and kris can't sleep due to the loud sex
I like every character a little less after this chapter.
>>572219036Huh? Of course I finished the neutral run, you have to do that for the Alphys date. But I didn't have to have a whole second playthrough from scratch, I just reloaded and got the call from Undyne that starts the TP content. I did the Papyrus and Undyne dates as soon as they became available and I didn't attack anyone. That's all you have to do to, it doesn't need a walkthrough unless the idea of reloading your save after the ending is foreign to you.
>>572219583Slop
>>572219398
>>572219583Only if it starts so bleak and unrecognizable it sounds eldritch before slowly bleeding into one as the fight turns, or the inverse if toby decides there is no happy end, then gem.
>>572219514
>>572219643>time traveler from 2025
>>572219643She really rattled his bones that night huh?
why did ch5 break this thread so fucking bad.i mean, i really enjoying posting here now but why did THIS chapter that did what the community wanted all along change its outlook THIS bad?/sus/ and /doe/? more like /shush/ and /woe/and all the shit i've been hearing for five years DIED in their tracks. the sass i've been hearing from smug-as-shit people are all eye-to-eye now and this is silence and lack of antagonism is kinda scary.you guys doing okay?
>>572219583it'd be cringe it should be a dont forget or lost girl remix
>>572219630The yurislop and trans allegories everywhere in both his games.
>>572219071I love this flower
>>572219619yup. it was chekov-ish for a bit but now that gun is locked and loaded. the shuriken getting aced wasn't the end of this
I honestly hope Susie's plan of involving Noelle backfires, badly, I can see weird route A Noelle making things difficult for her.
Since Ralsei wants us to beat the game pacifist-style was the the one who added the *ACT system to the Dragon Blazers-derived battle system
>>572219630Because LGBTQIA2S+ people are simply too unique and interesting to be written well by a cissie who hangs around enough of them, so he must be part of the in-group because if it turns out there's no clean unique experience deliminator and people can understand and model each other perfectly well then young queer teenagers might not hit up a queer elder like Sophie (she/her)#5831 on Discord so they can form a situationship and might look towards a well-adjusted person.
>>572219691
>>572219768THE HEART OF THESE THREADS STILL BEATSHATING ON FLOWERY IS THE REASON
>>572219691>not mossget this fanon trash out of my SIGHT (kidding, its cute as)
>>572219768Give it a few more weeks and the copium will patch everything back up. Suselle looks fucking doomed anyway, ch5 was Susie slowly giving up and indulging herself in her fantasies before the end arrives
Catti shooting up school when
>>572219881
>>572219632Susie will pout and take it out on Kris. He's the dog after all. >>572219685>Of course I finished the neutral run, you have to do that for the Alphys date. Exactly my point, the difference between DR and UT in this context is that you've had years to make that save. UT is not early access, it's being released episodic by design. It's why Toby hides so much shit and does all the out of game stuff. I would not be surprised if toby expects people who have been waiting almost ten years to see this come to a close to have taken the 15 or so hours it takes to make a WR save up to chapter 5.
>>572219792People said this last time about their festival date potentially somehow going wrong.
>>572219886Excuse you, Little Raly, Master Flowery is here to stay (in our hearts).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZi-hjkmfRY
>>572219925>Suselle looks fucking doomed anywayCope more, Susie is so enamoured with Noelle, she's bring Noelle to Castle Town.
>>572219768[vague_post_asgore_king.jpg]
>>572217968Aw fuck. I forgot all about that Faustian pact I made. Third time I've done something like this.
>>572219886>Kris, i'm going to curve stomp this blonde faggot i swear to angel!Damn, he really doesn't like the guy.
>>572219792I think Noelle's gonna go power mad almost instantly. Susie's gotten delusional over time, but Noelle's just being thrust into Dark Worlds with all of her issues, and she's gonna do reckless things.
>>572219974>People said this last time about their festival date potentially somehow going wrong.One might argue on weird route B it did go wrong.
>>572218858its definitely starting to slow back down, just another week or so
>>572219886
>>572219925hold the fucking brakes, man where are you getting "doomed suselle"-vibes from?if ANYTHING, suselleshitters were absolutely FEASTING that chapter.
>>572219768Aw kraut you do care
>>572219939Catti and Kris shoot up the school at the same time and kill no one but each other.
>>572219946>UT is not early accessMeant deltarune not undertale, need sleep
>>572219630Most transbians performatively hate men so if they like a piece of media made by a man they claim he's secretly a transbian tooSaid Snowy by slamming his face into the keyboard over and over to type out all these words
GHOST SEX
>Susie will go insane>Noelle will go insaneNo. Catti will go insane.
>>572219894
Noelle blowing up at Susie is all well and good but the thing I'm really looking forward to is her reactions to Darkners while in her freaking-the-fuck-out stateLike absolutely zero patience for any antics while her dad's dying and/or she's realizing Snowgrave wasn't a dream
I find it interesting that Ralsei leads you over the spikes the same way Noelle leads you into the lake. Like Ralsei already knows about how to break the rules limiting the player but just refuses to use them. Also kind of wondering if Chatper 5 is supposed to be a rose tinted version of Chapter 1 because Susie is in love, so everything seems fresh and new (even though you're doing a lot of the same shit you did already).
>>572220119Catti's already a bit insane.
>>572220081kraut always cared, even if he said he didn't.he just didn't care for how things are.but in a place you associate with life and rage, its absence is true kenopsia.
>>572220119Bro who gives a fuck about Catti, if she wasn't a chubby goth bitch nobody would even look at her
>>572219891good post
>>572219974Toby will actualy be a hack if the Noelle that pulled us into the lake only to come back out is somehow the same Noelle from the normal route in behavior. The fact Susie has dialog just for the fact your hair was wet when she got back with icecream shows he's not just gonna sweep it under the rug.
>>572219846But Toby doesn't write them well.
This will be Deltarune in 2026
>>572220156>spiky mosskek'd
>>572219939I hope Noelle just admits that she hates Catti to Catti's face so she can move on and start a healthy long distance relationship with Pizzarita (Pizzarina's younger sister)
>>572220106this is incest...
I have never played undertale in my life. Can someone tell me what the draw to it is though? I have had friends try to explain it to me and I have looked at gameplay of it but it has never ever seemed as interesting as they say. or has profound as they say. Some have even told me "UNDERTALE WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE!" I don't get it though. It is a bullet hell game right with story elements?
>>572219768Noelle looks like she has a penis in that picture
>>572220189>Like Ralsei already knows about how to break the rules limiting the player but just refuses to use themPretty much, his conflict with Flowery was all about letting go of his inhibitions>Also kind of wondering if Chatper 5 is supposed to be a rose tinted version of Chapter 1 because Susie is in loveI think the garden segment was more about Flowery making a cute little adventure in hopes that the heroes will be entertained enough and leave, at least that was his plan A.
>>572219542>>572219217I second this is it on the drawfag booru
>>572220306aw hell nah don't get your diddyblud problematic medias mixed with MY DELTARUNE
>>572220336you have to play it when youre in school to fully appreciate it
>deltarune is 8 years oldDoes nobody else see the problem
>>572220264CumRune
>>572219946>it's being released episodic by design.It's not though. It being episodic is just a compromise Toby made. His original vision was one big release.
I was hoping that there'd be some payoff for the cactus but it seems unlikely we'll get another Dreemurr house dark world
>>572220336you don't have severe autism, leave this place before it's too late
>>572220345yeah?okay?is that something that's important to you on a personal level?
>>572220220I'm falling~
>>572220336Without love it cannot be seen
>>572220336the game's like 3 hours for a first timer. play it yourself.
>>572220336Fuck retardertale play deltarune instead
>>572220306No its GHOST SEX
>>572220172She knows Snowgrave wasn't a dream, unless you're specifically talking about aborting the B-side in Chapter 4 (which would be pretty interesting). I don't get why she would blow up at SusieWhat I really hoping happens is that Noelle recognizes Maddie as one of her neighbors when she's in Castle Town. It's a slim hope, but I really want it to happen because it would be so fucking funny to have in the middle of her having a minor mental breakdown
>>572220336if you played deltarune and enjoyed the story then you will enjoy undertale's story. there's nothing life changing about it. if you don't like dr's story then don't bother with ut. very simple
>>572220412the same age as when dess did "that"
>>572220442
>>572220019It's all Asgore's fault, we need to beat him up and steal his lunch money for vagueposting
>>572220412Nooo you see this was Tobias' original vision aka taking 10 years to make a videogame
>>572220336its soulful and if you have the right sense of humor for it it's peak
>>572220412toby fox fucked around too much making chapter 2 and chapter 3+4.Realisticly dev time between chapters shouldnt be over a year
>@flowery
>>572213501>Jerk character continues to act like a jerk>WTF this is so out of character!?!?Shipper goggles are a helluva thing
Not even the biggest theorysloptubers can come up with new stuff for ch 5
>>572220436yeah it makes me horny
>>572220348I think the garden segment was more about Flowery making a cute little adventure in hopes that the heroes will be entertained enough and leave, at least that was his plan A.I think there's a lot more subtext to how this chapter is presented to be honest, especially on the themes of the trappings in nostalgia. One of the main enemies is a recycled version of one of the first enemies you meet in chapter 1, a lot of the songs are essentially remixes of songs and the story beats of going to the castle to close the fountain are also the same. There's also something very off about the dialogue from the recruits, like they just don't give a fuck anymore and aren't trying to pretend this is some fantasy world. Honestly the whole chapter is fucking strange.
>>572220336Play the demo if you care enough to bother. Other people describing a video game to you is pointless.
>>572220336if you have the specific kind of autism that causes you to fixate on game glitches, charming characters, lore, and unconventional storytelling, you might love itif you don't have that kind of autism you may like it or you may find it annoying depending on your style of humor
>>572220412i made two of my own 3d rpgs in the time it took not just between chapter 1 and now but actually between 2 and 3/4idk what he was doing for all those years desu
>>572220336The initial story draw is about subverting expectations, but what keeps people around is Toby's sense of humor that isn't afraid to learn HARD into being corny and the sick soundtrack that is basically always presentThe actual gameplay is just relatively simple bullet hell segments plus puzzle elements
>>572220189Chapter 5 mimics Chapter 1 because part of its theme of love/escape from reality was nostalgia. It's falling backwards into a comfortable (but fake) past when things are really uncertain, in the same way that the flowers were doing for Asgore. Flowery just wants people to be able to follow their dreams and be happy
>>572220421That compromise became a plan, otherwise I doubt we'd see shit like the constantly shifting gameplay mechanics if we were just getting the game released all in one bundle. There has been years between when that decision was made and now, it's not unreasonable that he's made changes in his own design since. Also you're still ignoring the original point. Undertale demanded you finish it once before being able to see the true end.
>>572220616cactus plantner knight is all they have
>Ralsei is actually le super powerful and has just been hiding it/holding backFound the WR final boss
>>572220616it's been a little under 96h you fuckin nerd
TEN FEET TWENTY POTENTIAL MANALWAYS GOES RIGHT BACK WHERE HE BEGANLARPING PURE DARKNESS, ALL WITHOUT A PLANLIKE THE EVERY DAILYKEEPS APPEARING, POTENTIAL MANALMOST IN EVERY CHAPTER SO FAREVEN THIS DARK WORLD INSIDE OF JAPANAFTER ALL HE'S POTENTIAL MAN, POTENTIAL MANWITH HIS SMILE, EDGING FANSWHILE IT SHRINKSWITH TWO CHAPTERS TO GOHIS LIFESPANHIDDEN FAR IN THE DARKEARS LIKE CAT'S, TEETH LIKE SHARK'SAIN'T IT NICETO LIVE FOREVER FORTHEORIES
>>572220336Amazing music, really fun and inventive gameplay and really uses meta narrative stuff to play with your perception. It's well worth playing.
>>572220063I hope you're right, I'll keep checking in every now and then till it gets better.>>572220106>>572220462Woah!! awesome!! shame this fandesign will probably not be used anymore once it's revealed Mettaton's ghost form is IMAGE_FRIEND
>>572220336Just play it. It's a short game.I doubt it'll change your life, but it's good.
>>572220637This. Try the demo, if it's not for you then it's nor for you. Not everything popular is good for everyone, take me for instance, never saw the appeal in the MCU, never watched any of the Marvel movies beyond the first iron man.
>>572220660Lusting after lesbians clearly going by the themes and such of the game.
>>572220464Pink's shopkeeper dialogue implies that she won't come to Castle Town immediately so unfortunately she probably won't interact with Noelle unless Noelle keeps it together until chapter 7
>>572220595it's a bit more specific, susie is oddly possessive of krisit's like the berdly thingi don't think kris wants to date berdly but christ give the guy a chance to say no
>>572220753i honestly don't think we're getting a mettaton ghost form reveal, he's gonna stay in his house
>>572220629The Darkners have had a consistent undercurrent of knowing they're NPCs and actors in Deltarune the game and prophecy and this chapter emphasizes it a lot moreEven in Castle Town you get bits like Hacker telling you to get Pink Coins to meet a cat girl
>>572220336Toby is really fucking funny and really good at writing characters, and he makes games in a way that rewards you with a response for nearly any interaction you try to perform. The act of interacting with UNDERTALE is a treat
>>572220684I think also it exhibits how weak nostalgia is as a form of escapism, particularly when you get older because the facade is very weak in this chapter. Asgore can barely enjoy any of it because he's so concerned with his responsibilities as a cop and needing to find out who did the thing.
Huh I didn't realize there was actually kriselle bait if you pair yourselves up in the vote
Does Catti not care about Jockington's hat being stolen anymore? Did she ever care?
>>572220616Oh no, SpookycunnyJ didn't churn out another low quality slop video! I am incapable of playing the game and analyzing it myself so this is a huge issue somehow!
>fantasy world catering to asgore>magical animu japan land instead of an environment relating to asgore's past on a deeper level all right man
>>572220897I think she does care but in this case it was confirmation bias that the dragon bitch is no good
>>572220718On one hand I want a really cool and hard boss fight against ralsei. On the other hand I don't want to kill him...
>>572220886It's really cute. Same with the ferris wheel dialog if you rock it.
>>572220940he didn't make the fountain
this is a weird route chapter 7 spoiler btw
I love it when the Floradinns say "We are after your dad!" because it's not even true
Seambros, trust the plan
>>572220940Blame Kris for pushing the ancient TV over and leaving the manga out in the open
>>572220940>asgore borrowed someone's, probably alphy's weebshit>kris intentionally set the playing fieldhow many more clues does toby need to slap you in the face with
>>572220629>I think there's a lot more subtext to how this chapter is presented to be honest, especially on the themes of the trappings in nostalgia.Definitely that as well, considering that the entire world is built for Asgore.>There's also something very off about the dialogue from the recruits, like they just don't give a fuck anymore and aren't trying to pretend this is some fantasy world.That might be a side effect of how Asgore probably barely changed anything about that room since the tragedy because he didn't care anymore. The Flower Gang is very old by Darkner standards and kept alive by him, and the surrounding world has been the same for years.
>>572220826Yeah but I just feel like it's leaning even more into breaking that facade in this chapter which is why it feels off for some people in terms of the wow factor. That or Toby sucks at writing all of a sudden.
>15k notesWow everyone hates flowery
>>572221091Could also be saying>Please give us a fighting chance when those shards take you over, recruit some stronger people please kris...
>>572220106>>572220462I’m the only one that knows these were made by a drawfag for a hapstablook gooner on /utg/ almost ten years ago…
>>572221123Flowery did sexually harass Susie and Ralsei thoughHe's still based I don't care
>>572221075they are such fascinating little mindless creatures
>>572221040:3
>>572221091>>572221165either way, i trust the plan
>>572218153your art, no matter how lewd you make it, has this sense of pure affection to it and i'm all for that
>>572221205He's based because of that
>>572220821I'm a firm "Mettaton is IMAGE_FRIEND" believer but even if that's not the case at some point Tenna has to come back and Tenna is with Mettaton so at the very least Mettaton even if not in his ghost form is gonna leave his house possessing something like Mad Mew Mew did, I believe he will possess Tenna maybe.
>>572220718>Ralsei being continuously out of control of anything on Weird Route while also getting increasingly anxious about fate with no release whatsoeverHe really may just snap at the end. I like the theory that his previous incarnations were more about fire and brimstone.
The festival felt seriously off for me. Like why are we the only ones really enjoying anything? Why is the whole town purposefully blockaded in a way so that you're forced to go to specific points? There's also that NPC that's talking about losing control of himself which makes me feel like the festival is the starting point of everyone locking into the prophecy and losing their autonomy. Everything in the festival is there to facilitate Susie and Noelle getting together because the girl has to find love.
>>572221123He's a loser and no matter how hard /utg/ shills him I'll never fall for it
>>572220464* I don't have TIME for this kind of thing, Susie!* You should have told me SOONER! Then i......* ...Look.* I... appreciate your... intention...* But i have more important things on my mind right now.* I can't lose him.* I can't lose anot-* ...Why the fuck is Maddie here???
>>572221213:3
>>572220869That's definitely less because he's an adult and more because of his unique scenario, but nostalgia being weak is part of the chapter, yeah
>>572221075They could be. They didn't specify they'd do anything once they got there or making any particular strong effort to get there in the first place, just that they were after him.
>>572221307:D
>"Failed dreams"... of course, these things are useless to you, Kris.>I, however, am aware of something interesting we can do with them. >Something very, very, interesting.>No doubt you will find it quite entertaining! Hahaha!!!You as in Kris or You as in (You)?
>Stupid ahh flower faggot humans, whatever i'll just tolarate them and get on with the story>"Thank you for watching my dream">Oh fuck, don't cry, don't fucking cry
>>572218153>That was our thingOh how the turn tables Snoozie, how the turn tables...
>>572221314Oh for sure but I guess it also highlights that nostalgia is the one form of escapism that you use much more as you get older as opposed to when you're young.
>>572220691Undertale demanded you finish it once and then reload for an hour or two of entirely new content before you can get another ending. That is very, very different than finishing Deltarune once and then replaying 20+ hours of mostly the exact same content. Also just because Toby adjusts things between instalments doesn't mean that he only cares about the episodic releases now and doesn't care about the game becoming a massive slog of back to back extremely similar replays for future players.
>>572221260>Mettaton is IMAGE_FRIENDi've seen some shitpost theories. i've seen a lot of deltarot theories but i think this is the first deltarot shitpost theory
>>572220965>Ralsei goes full power to try and stop (You)>fails>has a breakdown and tries to guilt trip you into not PROCEEDing by begging for his life>fails
>>572221358:P
>>572221295[/spoiler]This talking sprite of his here is hot[/spoiler]
>>572221409chapter select means you are only playing for 2-3 hours thoughever
>>572221276>Ralsei knows that he's doomed to lose against Kris because of the prophecy>hasn't spoken up despite being aware of the Weird Route because he knows him losing will lead to the next step (even worse)>eventually just snaps because the Weird Route has gotten so bad that Ralsei can't do nothing about it
Noelle used Money attack
>>572221368>filename looks vaguely finnish in naturegrim>>572221443:P
>>572221409Hey, did you know Deltarune has a chapter select? and ways to skip most of the lightworld segments? Almost like Toby has already built in considerations for that?
>>572220897She probably disliked Susie before Jockington's hat was stolen
>>572221452Hahah. I need to sleep *bashes head with rock*
>>572221493O_O
>>572221295Just realized he does the "anime boy with perpetually closed eyes opens his eyes once during a serious moment" trope
>>572221441It's gonna be rough on my save, cause I've been really nice to him and Susie despite doing WR. Telling him it's okay not to smile and all that.
I keep calling Kris "him" and my brother keeps yelling at me about it
>>572221295>He's a loserI wouldn't go that far, but he's not exactly a gigachad he's painted as. At the core of it, he's just trying to protect his little world, same as Ralsei. Flowery and Ralsei also have a warped idea of endearing themselves to other, but where Ralsei tries to be all diabetes sweet and positive, Flowery uses superficial "rizz" that makes him look like a sociopath, which is something even Asgore adimts. Flowery's best quality is not giving a shit about the rules, which is the lesson that Ralsei takes from him.
>>572221571OwO
>>572221452highlight your text and hit ctrl + s
is kris a corpse
>>572221624HappensToby shouldve made them more androgynous somehow desuAll the best kris art is made by japs who fully lean into the extra fem-leaning bishie form anyway
>>572221624Call your brother a faggot. Kris is a self-insert written character despite what flag fags want you to think. And he's male coded by default and it's obvious.
>>572221290idk why more aren't saying this. instead everyone is screeching TOBY SUCKS HACK WRITING ITS ALL SHIT! ig until spookyfaggot releases this theory on yt then suddenly everyone agreed always, the whole time and i'll be a faggot for saying otherwise later
alright little rally posters, maybe it's time to rest and get some sleep. maybe let the glue master do some sanfrandisco.
>>572221295>fighting literally to death for his King and trying to defy the Prophecy for both his and our sakeYeah what a loser
>>572221651[discord/)spooilturd(/))oiler I’m on mobile
>>572221726>Aqua
When will Gaster answer for Onion-san's death?
>>572221423Feels a bit bad to share this while /v/ tourists are around but check this out and be enlightened it shall change your mind, I'm firm in my belief (though I did not write this some other anon did)https://rentry.org/mettatonknight
>>572221642UwU
>>572221731>Flowery teases Ralsei>Ralsei gets pissed cutely>Later, Kris remembers this and in a fit of boredom, teases Ralsei the exact same way>Ralsei immediately cums at their touchJesus, Tony. Try being subtle about it.
>>572221673No he just turned green cause you (the soul) could be placed there. >>572221775>Headcanon of her being a surrogate Kris>Same Aqua had to be told she was a girl by some they/them nerdRight or wrong it's not a good look lmao
>>572221618I told him to keep smiling because I’m just twisted like that. Dark worlds are just regular worlds to me, heh
>>572221845>w<
>>572221727Right? Toby is so fucking anal with everything being part of the broader narrative, it would be so strange for this to suddenly change. After replaying it you can clearly see something is seriously off. Kind of speaks to his writing ability that he's able to write something that feels almost like the soul is being sucked out of it.
>>572221751Well, he did lose
>>572221201>hapstablook goonerThat’s me
>>572221624Kris>Looks like a guy>Dresses like a guy>Name could go either way>Acts like a guyYeah I'm pretty sure Toby did this on purpose.
>>572221879>Kris had to be told he was a guy by some 4chan nerd
What's the ETA of chapter 6?
Tasque Manager is ready to do penance
>>572221165That dialogue only happens if you don't have any crystals
>>572221928xP
>>572221981they are aiming for a 2027 release as per the steam page
>>572221952>>Looks like a guy>>Dresses like a guy>>Acts like a guyso does susie
>>5722219812027
>>572221979>Its only right when we're the ones telling the teenage they are nonbinary!Still, not a good look groomeranon.
>>572222006>JBI didn’t know people still listened to his music in 2026
>>572222037OoO
>>572221091The plan is that Mew Mew accidentally nukes Seam after they challenge her and she has to give you the Pure Crystal
I think Noelle has an evil soul. There's something inside her that's going to become apparent in the next chapter. I kind of wonder if her sprite when Susie picks her up is indicative of that with half of her being in shadow and her horns looking like the Roaring Knights horns.
>>572220627i wish you a short life ending in a long painful death.
>>572222059>looks like a guynot really>dresses like a guya gay guy, maybe, most valid point but 1/3>acts like a guyyeah masculine guys tend to get really blushy and embarrassed
>>572221879>green
>type "Nettskie" to look up fanart>most degenerate furry porn i have ever seeni don't know why i expected anything else
>>572222072^w^
What if Kris is a girl?
>>572221952>Dresses like a guyMy older brother's hand-me-downs are guy clothing?
>>572222196O_O
>>572222183It was a joke anon, I apologize for setting off the tism, I'll try and do better.
Several people mistook Ralsei for a girl in the chapter 1 days despite repeatedly being called a princeMuch to think about
>>572221573I like how when he opens his eyes he reveals that his face sprite has colored irises so he's neither monochrome like a Lightner nor full color like a Darkner. Very clopen of him.
>>572220336Why don't you just play it?It's a fun little game
>>572222143knight is noelle & kris amalgamate from the futurenow excuse me as i go hit my crack pipe
>>572221952To be fair, what could Toby have possibly done to make Kris not look like a guy or a girl?No matter what, people would interpret Kris as one or the other.
>>572222118grim>>572222143>le evil soul>le innocent player soul>tear up and disregard every bit nuance that toby tried to inject into the storyits all so tiresome
>>572221952>looks like a guynigga is like 20 pixels
>>572222225that literally could not be more the case
>>572222263Because sometimes it takes a prince to be best girl
>>572222247B3
>>572221952>>Looks like a guyLiterally made to look androgynous>>Dresses like a guyGot a shirt and pants, pretty much as gender neutral as you can get>>Name could go either wayYeah>>Acts like a guyA fucking brick wall, what do you mean acts, if anything Kris blushes sometimes, not exactly masculine
>>572222221Kris is the Dreemurr princess
>>572222182>>looks like a guy>not reallyHer hair is long I guessAnything else?>>acts like a guy>yeah masculine guys tend to get really blushy and embarrassedJust like Kris and Ralsei and Berdly
>>572222370OvO
>>572221453>>572221510You have to start the weird route in chapter 2 and continue it through at least chapter 5, chapter select is irrelevant because that's still several hours of mostly identical content.
In chapter 6 Susie will appear with her hair cut short and ask Kris to start calling her a guy70% of her dialogue boxes will also end with the bicep emoji from then on
>>572222352>"No, it was like this when I did it with YOUR MOM!"
>>572220336>>572222285
>>572221624Your brother sounds like a huge faggot.
So Asgore comments on the colors being different in the dark world so he's clearly been in one before this and it wasn't created by Kris.
>>572221541
>>572222221>If
>>572222225>My older brother's hand-me-downs are guy clothing?>guy clothing?>My older brother's>brother'sYes.
>>572222157I'm going to live forever buddy
>>572221624are you a femanonyour brother might be seething with incelrage at you if so
>>572222419<3
>>572222419Grape
>>572222352>kris the rizzler's tiny they/them dick doesn't penetrate all the way through>noelle teases him with "is it in yet" and calling it cute.>noelle acts all aloof but in truth he is somehow hitting all the right spots anyway, she just loves to do that to put herself over the edge.
>>572222489That scene creeped me out. The fact that the music stopped and that she was clearly seriously upset was so strange and unsettling.
>>572221751>not even Asgore cared about his assSAD!
>>572222341>draws the most blank slate, non-expressive bundle of 20 pixels as a character humanly possible>writes other characters stating it as gender neutral>watches the internet melt down about it's gender>refuses to elaborate furtherhow can one fox be this based
>>572222486Did you miss the part where Asgore talks about how he wants to skin alive whoever created the Dark World that lead to some tragedy and that he gets blamed for? Of course he fucking knows
>wants to protect asgore>"yo susie, kris made the fountain and works with the knight and I have one of the codes to the shelter"Why didn't he do that before fighting them? Is he stupid?
>>572222183am i forgetting a time where kris actually slept over the past 5 chaptersthat seam comment about "not getting caught when the sun goes down" might mean more than just "dont be in the dark world at night"
can you guys like just accept that toby is woke and wanted the protagonist to be nonbinary or what? why do we talk about this every thread not a single character refers to kris as "he" or "she"
Toby called Kris a he thoughever
>>572221295
>>572222182she looks like joey ramone>masculine guys tend to get really blushy and embarrassedkris blushes all the fucking time
>>572221952>acts like a bitch with me despite me having done anything100% a woman
What if Flowey actually did tell Susie that Kris made the fountainAnd that's why she's acting strangelyShe's not telling you the whole deal
>>572222486>he's clearly been in one before thisyes>it wasn't created by Krisyou sure about that, oldbuddy?
>>572222687I know Kris is a they but saying he is less grammatically awkward
>>572222625Kris is still family so he still loves them despite it allHe did tell Susie about the code behind Kris's back though so he didn't just let things go without a fight
>>572222562;)
Can you guys like just stop begging for other people's approval on the internet over which shitty game theory is canon
>>572222596Asgore kept him alive for however many years instead of letting him die after one day like he was supposed to, enough ragebaiting anon
>>572222329Worked for Fisk. The reason it doesn't work for Kris is because there's too much character interaction. Kris grew up being handled like someone would handle a little boy, all the roughhousing, scolding him for stuff even when someone like Dess or Noelle were playing along. The whole general "boys will be boys" stuff is something Toby wrote into Kris's behavior and people's treatment of him even if he did not mean to. The they/them is to let foids self-insert even if people scream you're not meant to self insert, you chose dialog actions, you act and play as him. You're meant to to some degree, it's what adds weight to the moments when he breaks the shackles and does as he pleases.
>>572222618some of Asgore's lines make me wonder what the fuck he's said to Toriel in the middle of an emotional argumentthat line was jarring
>>572222781:O
>>572222749>kris blushing and acting like a faggot = susie's "it's not like i like you b-baka" thingnigger you cannot be serious
>>572222690?>>572222770Semantically confusing though
>>572222797If you don't do ten push-ups and admit that Rudy is the knight right now I'll shoot myself
>>572222709lel
>>572222329Not sharing a bedroom with Asriel.
>Toby gave me secret messages about what the true plot and characterization is ignore what is actually in the gameAbsolute schizobabble
>>572222374Femanon has never made a man blush!
hey guys!
>GUYS THE GONER BIRD NPC IS LIKE TOTALLY EVIL AND TOTALLY CUT UP ONIONSAN INTO A BILLION PIECES AND SERVED HIM TO THE PROTAGONIST!!!!how many kris knife and torielfucking fakeouts do you need to learn that its inevitably going to be a nothingburger next chapter
>>572222873owo
>>572222425>Susie is a trans man and suselle is straightThis would be 9/11 for all the trans lesbian suselle shippers
>>572222420Why would the Saves for each chapter have shard indicators for all three saves instead of just one per chapter if there was not some expectation?
>>572222756flowery didnt need to. there's no way the post DW leading questions from susie happen without her having cottoned on. she's fishing to justify her now delusional state or for kris to fess up. maybe both
>>572222059>>572222225>>572222341>>572222374
>>572222489Yes, she dislikes Susie because she's jealous about Noelle's crush. We do not know if Noelle told her about the crush before or after the Jockington hat incident. It is more reasonable to assume that it happened before the Jockington hat incident than that Catti didn't care about the hat incident at all and only changed her mind later.
>>572222687Some people just hate enbies for the mere fact they exist and need to signal that hatred to everyone any chance they get, they know Kris is nonbinary because the game reminds you of it constantly by referring to Kris with they/them pronouns but the people misgendering Kris online do not care they just want to be hateful, same goes for Seth or Napstablook except you don't see the stupid self-insert argument for them.Speaking about this is a waste of time because It's not "reason" or "confusion" It's "I personally do not believe nonbinary people exist so I'm going to shit up the thread over it", just ignore them and hope they go away.
>>572222222
>>572223035Thanks for posting with me! Have a nice day! :)
why do trannies literally go red with murderous rage when you call kris a he that's pretty hilarious
Why does everybody think Catti is just another spurned lover nowWeren't we all convinced she had some kind of knowledge of the prophecy and that Susie is bad news?
>>572223016ggrraaaAAAAGH *tears your head off*
>>572219217now i need for kris to tell her that he loves her to make her feel more guilty!
>>572222690He corrected a person in an interview for referring to Kris as he before.
>>572223167onionsan...
>>572223138>Kris is nonbinary
When people say Kris "acts like a guy," they mean that Kris acts like a human being and girls are subhuman and have cooties too so Kris can't be one
>>572222815I imagine that was five years of build up speaking, fair for the man to be a bit on edge.
>>572222425Susie is getting force femmed by the Prophecy as we see she was fine even putting a dress with a tiara and wearing ribbons on her hair as long as you made her feel comfortable about it like Flowery didYou could also force fem Ralsei in this chapterChapter 5 really is the force fem chapter huh
>>572223175thank you too! and likewise!
this thread keeps getting better.
>>572223183Because there's a dialogue in chapter 5 that confirms beyond reasonable doubt that she's a spurned lover, when before it was ambiguous.
>weird route noelle makes a point to say that nobody else is noticing that kris is changingpeople who played the normal route:>uhh yeah well its probably just bad writing that certain characters changed their motivations on a dime. its just like... stress or something? yeah, that sounds narratively sound.
>>572223034shut the fuck up you theorynigger. its hilarious
what was the get? why was it deleted?
>>572223034It’s very much the implication as of now, it’s ok to believe it for a bit.
If Kris is a girl who should she date?
why do tourists keep calling kris nonbinary
>>572223138a sad truthblossom
>>572223319it's in your powers to make it worse
>>572223365i make the most anti-theorynigger post possible and thats your response?are you stupid?
What does being non-binary even mean? I thought gender roles were made up anyway.undertale/deltarune
>>572222329Making their hair two pixels taller might unironically have done itFor Frisk the initial reads were pretty evenly divided I think, maybe a slight majority toward female but I read them as male initially>>572222803Fisk...>Kris grew up being handled like someone would handle a little boy, all the roughhousing,More so than Dess?>scolding him for stuff even when someone like Dess or Noelle were playing alongWhich incidents are you think of?After chapter 5 I do think that Noelle was playing along with e.g. the ketchup blood and the hiding under the bed but I don't think it'd look like that to an outside observer regardless of gender, even if Kris were female and Noelle were maleI think that people's takes are based on their initial first-ten-seconds reads which use very sparse fickle information and these sorts of elaborate analyses are post-hoc
>>572223389Berdly.
Today I will remind them.
>>572223179Cause their worldview is as fragile as heated glass, those same sort of people were throwing a fit on twitter recently over this drawing of how to draw hands based on gender and age.
Kris is a they but you're completely full of it if you don't think they read masculine almost all the timeThe question of Kris' assigned gender is cruel, but don't pretend like there's much doubt as to the answer if we're being earnest.
Kris probably gets off to being misgendered anyway.
>>572223379gets are automatically skipped on fast boards, newfag-kun
>>572223482YOUR POST IS NOT ABOUT UNDERTALE OR DELTARUNE GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!
>>572223138I wonder how these anons feel about intersex people who choose to go by they/them because they feel comfortable in their bodies without surgery.
>>572223529They really do get less saturated though
is kris non-dairy
>>572223452i was not being sarcastic.i like it.i don't destroy good things.that's why i have some malicious feelings for certain posters and not the rest.but you know what? i don't see them.thread is good.
>>572223034Onionsan is a completely irrelevant and optional character unlike Kris and Toriel. If Onionsan was never brought up again after the takoyaki stand then it would have absolutely no impact on the game's plot whatsoever. It is reasonable to assume that this is the last mention we're getting of Onionsan. It wasn't reasonable to assume that Kris is going to kill everyone epic genocide style or that Toriel would have sex with Sans on screen because those would have real effects on the story unlike Onionsan being dead.
>>572223563Kris did it purely to cause online arguments because they're a little shitstirring goblin child.
>ameritards awake>culture war beginsnooooticing
>>572223329What if Noelle originally had a crush on Kris, Catti knew this, and the sudden Susie one set of the flag for "love finds the girl"?
>Aqua is Kris's reflection and is a "girl">Kris is a they and would be trying to present less like whatever they were before>Kris is a little more masc than fem
>>572223550>be guy>hand looks more like the female one herefuarkkkkk its over for me
>>572223387literally any time there was a situation with any amount of weight that wasnt immediately confirmed to be real in-chapter, the chapter immediately following it did a tongue-in-cheek little>haha... you thought this fucked up shit was REAL? nah berdlys just cold, RETARD.
>>572223645it's 8am here 99% of american deltatrooners sleep until at least noon
>>572223529can deltarunefaggots just get it in their heads that this is a really big game and sometimes mistakes happen? this is probably just selecting the wrong hue on accident. and if i remember correctly, in the next scenes kris regains their original yellow colour.
>>572223584I feel that they are non-binary too? if you're not the binary (male or female) then you are non-binary, I think Kris being intersex would be very interesting actually and maybe could be why they had to go to therapy.
>>572223061Because shadow crystals (not shards) can be obtained on a per chapter basis and transferred around between saves unlike the weird route. It's not comparable.
>>572223034Say it with me.Nothing.Ever.Changes.
>>572223645it only takes 1 ameritard to fat up a thread. they (not he) sit AROUND THE THREAD LOL
guyslove each other
>>572223529>>572223807
I'm chuu-chuu-choosing ralsei
>>572223351Both can be true, but I think Noelle was talking in particular about how Kris has changed since the start of the game five days ago. That sudden shift in behavior we caused.
I'm going to say it.I don't care about Onion-san.
>>572223908thats gay
>>572223557If Kris had slightly longer hair and was named "Kristina" and nothing else changed then virtually nobody would read them as male and people would look weird at you if you called them male.Their actual behavior is subordinate to those cues, nearly irrelevant.>The question of Kris' assigned gender is cruel, but don't pretend like there's much doubt as to the answer if we're being earnest.It's merely uncommon for girls to act as masculine as Kris. Do you think Susie is secretly assigned male too?
>>572223956me either but the goner gang memes rule
>>572223427This kills the trannies.
>>572223978You don't believe this and I will not be engaging with bad faith arguments
>>572223630>purposefully mysterious character whose actual intentions havent been defined outside of a visual similarity to a goner from UT>a joke character who was purposefully being mysterious about where he was going>in the toby fox game, where nothing is allowed to have any real weight unless it directly affects the main characterslike, youre kind of just asking to have the mike situation happen to you a second time
>CH6 comes out>5+ minute scene of Kris telling ralsei to get naked (without any input on our part) in the middle of castle town, with susie and noelle silently watching in uncomfortable silence and kris grooms his entire body with a pet slicker>Everything continues as normal afterwards and nobody mentions itHow would you react?
>>572223908t. Flowery
Between being disappointed and a total mental breakdown, how will Susie take it when the truth is finally revealed?
>>572223645>americans wake up roughly around the same time as mexicans and brazilians>the first ones accused of shitting up threads are always the americans
I'm going to say it.I still have no idea who Mike is or why anyone cares.
Kris has null genitals because they're an escaped vessel from the meat factory and you're all retarded
>>572224073Which part do I not believe?Do I believe that people would read Kris as male if they were called Kristina and had longer hair?Do I not believe in masculine girls?
>>572223751Depends, what's your knuckles and hand joints look like? Cause those are usually the tell, even with skinny fingers guys tend to have larger ones that stand out if they rolled women fingers.
>>572224164trve
>>572224138you are all americans
>>572223584i'm not even transphobic and even i know that intersex isn't a real thing and is just a genetic abomination. sort of like how conjoined twins are a thing or people growing extra limbs or growing these weird sacks of flesh that have eyes and teeth and hair and shit on them or even something like harlequin babies.
>>572214610>>572215096Who made this? I wanna save it with Artist credit
>>572223482in boolean math, binary is the mathematical state of 2 states. one or off, true or false. 1 or 0or in this case: man or female.tumblrshitters version of saying "iunno" when asked wether they have a conk or vagoober.to calculate binary values past one, you need to add digits.0 = 01 = 110 = 211 = 3100= 4101= 5 >how? why?because every digit is calculated n*2^digitposition-1n being wether or not the digit is even active or not (0 or 1)sorry for trailing off, i prefer teaching shit that actually is real, not garbage "uhhh mommy didnt love me enough, better cut my cock off and pretend i am a pretty girl"-shit.
>>572223954i mean im not excited about toby potentially lifting a fucking yiik plot point but it makes more sense than the alternative>i REALLY wanted to write a boring lesbian romance that made no sense narratively and was awkward and stilted for nearly everyone involved, and im doing this to the detriment of my million dollar franchise
>>572223978>If I change the situation to fit my argument in a way that is not bound to reality, it suddenly fits my argumentwhy do you fags always, always, argue like this?
>>572222329Light world Kris should wear robes like Kurapika.
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>>572224086laugh at first. wonder if this is a toby shitpost after a minute. go over evidence in my mind that indicates this is toby's fetish or something more. after it's over, file it away as something that went completely over my head
>>572224182my knuckles aren't very defined unfortunatelypeople mistake me for a girl all the time but only coz i'm fat, i can't even into femboy
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>>572224252https://x.com/REvannMan/status/2071151078348099944
>>572224080There is no weight to a mystery NPC killing a joke character. Purple guy could hack milk looker to pieces with a chainsaw on-screen and it wouldn't matter. It's not comparable to Mike theories because Mikefags thought Mike would be a major character. Onionsan will simply never show up or be mentioned again and the bird will either also disappear or resume vagueposting in the library. It doesn't matter if it actually killed Onion or not because neither character is important and nothing they do matters at all.
>>572224138>retarded american response>doesnt know what the americas arelike pottery
>>572223835>It's not comparable.That stopped being the case the second toby made a _b save flag. You can just say you don't want to do the route for whatever reason, I really don't care about that, I just don't get why you people think it impossible that toby might expect people invested in the game to explore all it's assets?
>>572224421Thanks anon
>>572223926based
>>572224249Those are all real types of people who have to live their lives somehow
>>572224279He did really want to write a boring lesbian rehash of Undyne and Alphys but teenage romance though, you know it to be true.
>>572224360Eat better. Don't let gymbros trick you, working out is good but the human body evolved to convert as little food into as much energy as possible so we could chase one day's worth of food for 6 hours straight. if you want to lose weight it starts at what you eat.
>>572223926just because i don't think he's evil anymore, doesn't mean i like him or trust him.
>>572224164>has a whole ass vessel sequence with nothing about gender or genitals>toby sees all the kvetching about kris's gooch or non-gooch>man country, non-mancountry is created>desperately includes genderless ghosts, mannequins and dolls to the point of slapdash recolors and resprites>no one ever follows what's happeningtoby 'punished' fox
>>572222687>>572223138i will bully enbies, i will refer to enbies with their birth pronouns, and you'll like ittry to make me do otherwise
>>572224295Maybe I'm not explaining the hypothetical right? I'll try without it.I think Kris's sprite and name read as vaguely masculine in the same way that stick figures read as masculine.I think that when intuiting someone's gender people default to such surface-level cues even in the face of ambiguity and that behavior has to get pretty extreme to override that.I was talking about behavior because other people were talking about it but I now notice you didn't mention it, so sorry if you didn't mean that.I think that despite Kris's surface cues coming across as masculine to most people they're still really weak and it's mostly because masculinity tends to be the default. I don't think Kris's assigned sex is clear.
>>572224489You still have to play through several hours of mostly identical content to get the _b save flag, that doesn't change anything. You can get a shadow crystal by playing a single chapter, the weird route takes at least 2-5 chapters, and out of those, one is entirely the same as the normal route and another is mostly the same. Not to mention you can't move the Thorn Ring between save files or anything like that. It's not impossible but it would be shitty game design from the perspective of someone playing the game 10 years from now when it's finished and having to play through half of the exact same game again for two short scenes of new content. I trust Toby not to make his game shitty to play.
>>572224954>try to make me do otherwise>t. the same nigga who wonders why women avoid them and always have planstragic
>>572224784I have been doing that at least, I lost 41 kilograms last year which is like 90 pounds
>>572225148Good on ya, keep it up anon.
>>572223482non-binary exists so fat straight women can claim to be it, and get to join the LGBT genderspecial club as a result
i hope that onion-san is alive in the chapter 7 depths/dark world and he just kinda fell in after swimming too deep and exiting the bounds of the map
